#🏞|general-with-images
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it feels around the same kind of uscale I get from their UI
(a new feature they added recently, when downloading a pic it lets you upscale it)
So basically not that big of a deal?
Interesting, interesting
only x2 when I tried it though
Ah, that suggests it was the low quality version in that case
I have about 40 minutes to kill
Let me take a look and see
oh god, its its own own huge checkpoint
hmm
ohhhh, so you use it as an img2img model it seems
hmm
Yeah, I am way less interested in this
bummer
oh well
Real-Gan also seems really old... I am not sure what this is all about
oh.
Real ESRGAN is just R-ESRGAN we have had for months
I am genuinely confused what the point of that announcement was for-
I wish 2.1 wouldn't have been such a flop
this is base model?
if so, those look good for base model
Not bad for pure base model
sure, there are lot of artifacts, but the fact that they don't look terrible is a huge step up form normal base 2.1 lol
It still has some base model issues, but for base model that looks damn good honestly
Very nice
imagine how good it would look with a good model if it already looks that solid
getting base models to not look terrible really is a feat of its own lol
Reptilian Aliens in India Series 👽
It's not a subjective thing. It was objectively because I was using JPG for my process, and it caused the issues seen
JPG works fine for results, but not for upscale
As you can see, when you use JPG for the upscale process, it causes artifacts
vs PNG
I only found out that JPG was the issue around that time
looking for best carrot tree 😄
@kind quartzfirst try result lol
i got them many 😄
it is simply funny
I like messing with absurd things sometimes haha
Yeah sure but like, I'd like you take a picture of a snow leopard in the middle of a desert lol. Reality is boring and limited, AI isn't
I'll hold my thoughts lol
I mean, why is it okay for you to pay for a service, but not okay to use your own gpu?
You can do blood or whatever if you install it locally
I have nothing to add to that
- you'll get alot more tools to play with...not just gen
I think this one came out good
i have him on desert but still there is snow under leopard
Because you're losing alot of potential?
You can't do alot with it.
I mean, if you wanna spend money for ease of use, thats valid, but it is far more limited than just running locally
and idk how much you can actually generate before you'll reach the price of a gpu spent on it...
like 3060 or something
you'd reach that pretty fact
But mine looks good, so why the hate?
Its a little pretentious lol
@kind quartz
Just messing around
Sandy Snepard
@paper salmonYou didn't answer what is so wrong with my flower image. Why does it matter if its real or not if it looks good?
So if it did, it would be better?
@smoky oak rather spoilers it, problem i have is i got prompt in filename
I can tell those fingers are real
My point is, if I didn't tell you that it was made up, and you just saw it and thought it was real, what's the big deal?
Because as of right now, you're only taking my word that it's generated, you don't actually know if it's generated or not lol
I guarantee you the only reason you feel that way is because I told you it was generated, and you're just taking me at that face value.
I could have said it was a photograph, and you probably would have believed it too
You have a huge misunderstanding between the power of a base model versus a fine tune model
SDXL is a phenomenal base model, however a very well tuned 1.5 model can still handily beat it in several places. The only true excitement of SDXL is the fact that we will be able to fine tune it to become even better than 1.5 is now
Also, you're not able to use any form of fine tune or specialized model on dream studio, which in and of itself is a huge drawback
Dreamstudio is limited compared to local install tools, thats what I meant.
You get lots more options to play with , extentions, tools...
Models, LoRA's, textual inversions, dream booths, control net, deforum, pix2pix, megabatch processing, dedicated upscale workflows, unlimited scripting capabilities, and so much more
yea I couldn't be bothered to list 😄
Just to clarify, I'm not saying that there's anything wrong at all with using dream studio, it's a fantastic service, with a reasonable price, and makes a lot of sense for people who do not have the hardware to run stable diffusion on their own. However, it is by no means even remotely as capable or feature packed as a local stable diffusion installation
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Imege
Currently, there is no bot on the server that generates images. However, there are plenty of other ways such as the official https://beta.dreamstudio.ai/ website or by running Stable Diffusion locally using your own hardware! Check out #1080946152318443610 for more details! You can also stop by #1025467151206854736 for any issues you experience while using DreamStudio or #🤝|tech-support for any problems you encounter while installing it locally!
Also, by the way, that flower I sent is a real photograph, not a generation.
So congratulations, you just downplayed the artistry in a photograph, because somebody said it was generated... Your judgment of that image was completely based off of the way that somebody presented it to you
This is a real photograph that I took with a real DSLR, with my real hands, in reality. But because I even so much as suggested (didn't even state) that there was a potential that it was generated, you had a problem with it@paper salmon
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You can't generate images in the server
Currently, there is no bot on the server that generates images. However, there are plenty of other ways such as the official https://beta.dreamstudio.ai/ website or by running Stable Diffusion locally using your own hardware! Check out #1080946152318443610 for more details! You can also stop by #1025467151206854736 for any issues you experience while using DreamStudio or #🤝|tech-support for any problems you encounter while installing it locally!
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You cannot generate images in the server.
Whare i genrate image
There is no way built into this server to generate images.
Read the messages I sent multiple times now, they explain how to do it
I'll send it again
Ok
Currently, there is no bot on the server that generates images. However, there are plenty of other ways such as the official https://beta.dreamstudio.ai/ website or by running Stable Diffusion locally using your own hardware! Check out #1080946152318443610 for more details! You can also stop by #1025467151206854736 for any issues you experience while using DreamStudio or #🤝|tech-support for any problems you encounter while installing it locally!
sighhhhh
You get one little taste of an extremely limited beta preview model, and now suddenly you're the king of generations
To be fair...we'll get SDXL on our local install later on too...soooo....
You do not support the developers. They do not make money off dream studio. You pay the electricity cost of what it takes to run their servers
Thats fair
The community by creating models and adaptations for people to use for free, as well as guides and probably one of the highest levels of support in this server, to name a few
oh and also
1.5 can do it just as well
SO ANYWAYS
oh come on man lmao
You had to buy a device that can use the web to access discord. Not exactly free!
It is free, as in no additional cost
have a decent PC already? Its free to run
What?
up until this point, I have been light hearted. I could really tear into all of your SDXL gens and point out the issues with them, but I am not like that
Dreamstudio costs wayyy more to run than local install
WAYYYY more
Also, here, hes happy now
Also, we have access to additions dream studio has no support for, which is another massive bonus to local running
Also, fun fact, a lot of native americans did not smile in photographs throughout history as it is thought in many native american cultures to be capable of stealing emotion or even the soul of the beings pictured
ok, so SDXL's big thing is it can do "Female Native Americans?"
Thats the selling point?
proceeds to send images with tons of issues
I see
Yes, we get it, its a cool little base model, but SD 1.5 can do all of these things too lmao
an akita inu breed dog mixed with a dachshund breed
@paper salmonI get what you are saying, but all of these images are just showing that you probably never messed with a properly tuned model
These are very "ok" images
. . .
again, we know SDXL can do decent looking images
We all know SDXL is a good base model, yea, that's why we're all waiting for it and 3.0 base model to release so we can finetune it and use more tools with it 
I just don't get why is it okay for you spend money on credits, but not on your gpu
1.5 can do just as good, if not better lol
Are you done yet?@paper salmon
guess not
yea there only thing there old models can't do was text so far, everything else wasn't that impressive
@paper salmonI know things that SDXL can't do
here is a SD 1.5 image
good luck recreating it in SDXL
oh...right....I know...
Noise offset is just one of the many things SDXL can't do
Keep coping bro
Here, I have an idea
Try and generate toothless from how to train your dragon
see how well that works
I'll wait
Or an Opossum
generate an Opossum, I wanna see it
some older gens...
Or a blue person from Avatar, lets see that too
Genuinely the only thing SDXL can do 100% over 1.5 is text, and for that I will agree, SDXL slaps
but then again, we have access to controlnet which means we can make infinitely better text anyways
I think SDXL failed my "ripped, torn" clothes test too
Alright, lets get this over with
I'm not doing gens specifically to prove something on my 1050ti lol, maybe when I'll figure out collab situation...
There, happy now?
can we move on to something of substance
@paper salmon Let me know when you get SDXL to generate toothless from HTTYD, an opossum, or a blue person from Avatar. I'll wait
The truth is, there are genuinely things that SDXL can do better than most 1.5 models, you just haven't shown a single one of them lol
Oh, and here is a rule of thirds image of 2 native american women, for kicks
what lmfao
oh that's right, you have to pay to gen... Damn 😦
Anyways, I am sure that was a cover up to hide the fact that SDXL can't do any of those things I listed
oh crap, BRB
???
Didn't you just ask for it?
until few days ago I was using google's hardware for gen
well, for like 99% of my gens
was doing quick tests on my own gpu
I think if I paid for as as for dreamstudio I'd probably could buy 3060 already for spent $ 😄
Well let's see, my PC cost $1000 6 years ago, and I've generated 98,000 images... So how does that work out? Also, running the math, my GPU uses about 190 watts when generating for 1 hour straight. I can do about 1 image every 2 seconds when speed generating, which is 18,000 images an hour. Let's say that I were to do that consistently for 1 hour, that would be 200 Watts, each day for an entire month, which would come out to about 6,000 Watts, which based off of where I live would come out to around $0.40 a month...
Which one you convert that down turns into about $0.0001 per image.
Also, when factoring in the cost of my hardware, it should also be noted that my computer has made me well over $3,000 in the time that I've had it, so that cost is negligible
So yeah, running the software that is completely free on hardware that I've had for multiple years prior, works pretty good for me
So yeah, safe to say that I've generated a hell of a lot more, for a hell of a lot less
And that's also while having access to all of the exact same models that you have access to, as well as literal thousands that you don't, as well as dozens of different features that you don't...
So yeah, I think that works out pretty reasonably
I'd love to see your response where you try and figure out in what way I've managed to pay more than the nearly 10 cents an image you're paying for
Oh also, I should also note that we are planning on getting solar panel sometime soon, of which the electricity for my generations will quite literally be entirely free
wiser will retreat 🙂
My mother and I, we just moved into a new house
If we're talking about screens, two of my screens were hand-me-downs, one of them was a birthday present, my GPU was a 3060 TI of which I got for $400 MSRP, my CPU is a 7700K of which I got for $160, my motherboard is an Asus tough Mark 2 Z270, of which I got for $100, I have 32 GB of RAM that I purchased for about $110, and a 1 TB and VME SSD, as well as several others that have absolutely nothing to do with the function of my computer, but rather other things that make me money...
So yeah
I do live in the USA, yes
Oh yeah, there are lots of countries where graphics cards are outrageously expensive
Oh Jesus, I didn't realize it was THAT bad
Wow...
@paper salmon anything else to add?
3060ti in Russia is basically equivalent of middle class average salary , even higher a bit
The 3060 TI I did not get 6 years ago, I purchased it two years ago, everything else is 6 years old
I have a 3060 TI founders edition that I got for MSRP launch price on December 24th 2020. It launched at $399, and I bought it for $399
1.5 is not out of date software 
whatever man, I have been engaging in this conversation cause I find your constant subject changing, goal post moving, and coping to be quite entertaining, but this is just causing me physical pain now lol
quick reminder that nobody here said SDXL isn't good, you were just the only one adamant that it's "better than 1.5"
which is entirely false, BTW
Question, are you Native American?
Also, you, posting an image with the same chieftain head dress
But yeah, are you Native American?
Oh for sure, 1.5 base is ass, but 1.5 fine tuned is far more capable, diverse, and feature rich than SDXL at the moment
SDXL is a fine model, a good one even as I am very excited for it, but its just not better than finetuned V1.5 in its current form
If somebody is saying something is objectively better than another thing, then they themselves open it up to comparison
The base is, but the finetunes are nowhere near as good as 1.5 on average unfortunately. Which is why so many people are worried to see if SDXL is finetunable, or if its gonna be a flop like 2.x
Right, so then why are you worrying about the cultural representation of a culture you are not a part of? If we wanna get into that
Their claim was SDXL base is better than 1.5 tuned, so they are the ones that opened that comparison
Their whole thing is how 1.5 in any form isn't as good as good as SDXL, which is just false lol
Idk how you'd call something outdated if most of SD community using it
right lol
You are exhausting
1.5 can do owls
Its an owl in general. I had it on hand
@paper salmonwhat now?
Guess they have no comment about my owl
oh well
I love the scene in this
So you will waste credits to generate things I have already shown, but none of the things I suggested. Right. Right
would you guys please give it a rest already. i pop my head in here every 10-15 minutes and you've been arguing about stuff for the last 2 hours. just agree to disagree or mute each other ffs
Owls are cool.
You know what, fair point. This is like talking to a wall and is going nowhere anyways. I have been amused with how far they cope up until this point, but I get how its gotten old for some
I'll end it with this image, where the owl is looking at the camera like was suggested, rather than flying like was not suggested
I now have a new animal to play around with, which is nice, cause I have never generated Great Grey owls before
at least something came out of this immense waste of time lol
At least mine has eyes 
ANYWAYS
I DIGRESS
Have some girls.
the FEMOIDS
They do look a bit like robots tho.
Because of the skin.
I still like them anyway.
#🏞|general-with-images 3 beautoful women wearing a white oversize hoodies by the beach and rocks by the sea in Sweden, windy weather. Full body image. Natural light. during golden hour, taken with a DSLR camera, using a 35mm prime lens with cinematic lighting.
how to generate?
Currently, there is no bot on the server that generates images. However, there are plenty of other ways such as the official https://beta.dreamstudio.ai/ website or by running Stable Diffusion locally using your own hardware! Check out #1080946152318443610 for more details! You can also stop by #1025467151206854736 for any issues you experience while using DreamStudio or #🤝|tech-support for any problems you encounter while installing it locally!
Why are her eyes like that?
They’re not meant to be like that.
That’s the problem.
Yeah, gimme a sec.
if wrong eyes use extras tab gpfgan or codeformer, it will correct it
What?
if your result has wrong eyes or so you can automaticaly correct it in extras tab in webui
Playground can do it as well.
If you're going to critique, please at least be respectful
Close up on face, tropical impressionist painting. Wide open lips. E-girl makeup, blonde hair. Crop top with no shoulders, diamond necklace. Impressionist painting of a teenage young girl model. Nordic face. Tropical scenery, pale skin. 19 year old girl. Blushing. Russian model girl, the face of a model. Pino Daeni, Daniel F Gerhartz. Unbelievable lighting and breathtaking atmospheric scenery. Water reflections, fog. Palm trees in the background, smiling, cute model girl with beautiful reflective shimmering eyes and soft pale skin. Richard S. Johnson, perfect composition, beautiful detailed intricate insanely detailed octane render trending on artstation, 8 k artistic photography, photorealistic concept art, soft natural volumetric cinematic perfect light, chiaroscuro, award - winning photograph, masterpiece, oil on canvas, raphael, caravaggio, greg rutkowski, beeple, beksinski, giger
These as well?
and then you attached a whole group to it needlessly. You've been warned yesterday so please keep it respectful. Thanks
The skin looks too fake, is there a word that can make them look less like dolls and more like actual people?
Maybe “imperfect skin” or something?
hum .... sorry
"textured skin" or "skin pores"
I didn't see you in there
The artists that you tagged are more than likely averaging out for that smooth look
I use tags like "textured skin, realistic skin, skin pores" and such
Ohh.
They do, as I use them, but chances are terms you are using are canceling them out
its a balancing act after all
uhhh... No?
The smoothness does result in an interesting design style, ngl.
They look more like people out of dreams.
ohhh, but that also depends on different models and such
I don’t really care about realism that much, but I do want my girls to not look like dolls.
fair haha
so...after few tests on cardos animated..it actually looks like a mix of realistic + art \ drawing
Which turns out pretty weird o_O
Not sure if I'd use it, I'd prefer something a bit more specific...
Either closer to art or closer to realistic
for whatever reason, this woman reminds me of Frida Kahlo
A bit, yes.
oh this is a very interesting inbetween
yea
Big ol’ tohongerekoogers.
I WAS THINKING IT TOO LMAO
I don’t really care about cleavage in my pictures, but I’m not against it, haha.
prompt didn't have it, it's just happens with ripped cloth...pretty often
Some Dobonhonkeros
A real set of dohoonkabhankoloos
Them big ol' bonkhonagahoogs!
Humongous hungolomghononoloughongous.
My memory can be both a help and a nuisance.
Yeah, thats looking much better IMO
This is the same prompt, lmao.
I guess some turned out better than others.
These are perfect though.
Imagine an anthropomorphic owl in a tuxedo running up to you with an iron stick.
I have some anthro owls too
Show them.
Cool.
Also Dezgo can do anime pretty well.
Here the poreless skin actually makes sense.
It still needs work when it comes to fingers though.
I was messing around with owlin character design for my friends DND campaign
Also side note. My synesthesia has been really really aggressive these last few days, and this section of this song has had me in a synesthetic choke hold
Tickles my brain meat in the right way I suppose lol
I’ve been listening to dub all the time lately.
Mad Professor, King Tubby and the rest.
There are just so many genres and scenes of bass music its impossible to run out of new and interesting songs
For some reason I hate this music as much as I hate modern dubstep.
I mean, if you hate modern dubstep, of course you'd hate future dubstep lol
Past dubstep was cool.
Not my cup of tea.
This is another new generation shapeless melodic drop. These are the sounds that really set off my audio visual reactions cause they are so organic I guess you could say
If I listen to electronic music, I pick techno.
oh yeah, much much older stuff
also jesus why is that so loud
bout blew my eardrums out lmao
Weird.
I listen to it at a medium volume.
Little bit of modern bass house vibes
I'm mostly on dark trap lately...
I may have some songs if you wanna go more intense lol
oh, do you like to headbang by chance?
I have a song that puts me in a neck brace every time lol
If it's actual dark trap, like istasha, kiraw, corpse - go ahead 
This is a good mix of ska and dub.
Oh, this is very much complextro adjacent. Very nice
oh no, I was meaning like way more intense, less words, more anger lol
Synesthesia is when you hear colors and stuff?
for me, yes
Cool.
I have multi facet audiocentric synesthesia
I don’t have synesthesia, but rather a very rich imagination.
Can be emotions, sensations, colors, shapes, all sorts of things
some songs affect me, others don't
hmmmm...anger sounds like what I might want
but eh, I think I'm good on it for now, waiting for new album to drop 
I have a few tearout tracks, which are about as intense as it gets before you end up at deathsetp, which is just straight up noise
nothing makes me smile more than CRUNCH
Oh, I do have a bit of color trap lol
its a very fun mix of styles
This is a good dub.
Also, why does it sound worse in Discord?
I wonder if you would like New Amsterdam... It is very much old dub inspired with more complex sound design and a little more energy
Mmm.
0 clue, unless you have an EQ
Maybe because I’m using headphones?
Namster Damster
Also, just noticed your pfp, big fan
Yeah. Only if I had a purple role to go along with it.
One day she'll figure out how to hold sword 
That's really not my style. I like bass in my songs when it's not ripping through my ears.
totally understandable
my tastes have gotten more and more diverse and subsequently nasty over the years of my venturing into bass music as a whole
Like here.
and also I have synesthesia, which can make the goofiest sounds amazing to me
It sounds much better in real life, trust me.
I don't really listen to anything other than dub these days.
But at least I try to find something new every day to not get tired.
oh yeah, absolutely not my style of music. I can appreciate it tho
I am not a fan of most traditional instruments unless done in a unique/new way, which is rare nowdays
I am listening to it lol
You said you like complex soundscapes?
The song I'm about to share does have traditional instruments.
But they masterfully blend in with the dub.
Yeah, I am not a fan of face to face at all personally
Its too traditional to me, sounds like a lot of songs I have heard, and i just generally do not have good reactions to most traditional instruments now
the more unique something is, the more I am inclined to have a powerful reaction
The guitar, saxophone, piano or harmonica are a staple of the dub genre.
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Maybe you’ll like this one?
It has both traditional and digital instruments.
AND dub.
Its a fine song, not really much of a reaction from me
I have an extremely picky ear for mixing and mastering, and I am not a fan of the mixing on that song
I do like some of the digital elements
So future bass gives you the best reactions.
Several different niche genres
future bass, color bass, future riddim, tearout, and many other more niche genres
Have you by any chance heard of Boris Brejcha?
It's like house and techno mushed together.
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Gravity · Boris Brejcha · Laura Korinth
Gravity
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Released on: 2019-07-12
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Featured Artist: Laura Korinth
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This is a good song.
Techno has never been too much of my jam, personally, but I do like a little bit of house
already listening lol
I have heard this song before
had somebody else show me his stuff a while back
Too bad I don't like future riddim.
Yes, its playing
I'm a fan of traditional dub.
The beginning instrumentation is gorgeous in this
however I am major not liking the phase relations in this song
Dare I say severely disliking
but that intro was very very pretty
I do like traditional instruments in that case
I don't have synesthesia. However, my imagination can be so strong that I can visit different places with my mind.
I have never been a fan of conflicting phase relationships
I find it horribly distracting, and even agitating unfortunately
Dub music transports me to Jamaica or Africa.
I'd post something too, but I think all of my songs include explicit lyrics lol
I'll give it a listen
trap is a subset form of modern bass music after all lol
I wasn't prepared for just how much I love melodic trap lol
I vibe with this much more
I love how this conversation went completely away from AI.
Its got extremely clear and clean production, which is typically one of my biggest turn offs. If its badly produced, good luck getting em to like it
but damn that is crisp and clean
You might like the music I make.
I have a Bandcamp.
Unavailable.
Weird how Brazilian music is not available in Russia.
Also not.
So do I drop my Bandcamp or...?
Russia is outcast now, welcome to the world after 24.02.2022
sorry, I am gonna be busy for a little bit
Unavailable.
Potentially, I am a music producer myself
I use GarageBand, Soundtrap and Groovepad mostly.
Well, I am more of a sound designer than a producer at the moment, but I am working on an album
I want to switch to Ableton, but my laptop is potato.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qslc4Lxlrdk
This one isn't too harsh, I guess
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Unnecessary Sounds from the Concrete Kiddo · Istasha
Whale Sound Asmr
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everything else is marked "explicit" all over it lol
It's all Brazilian, right?
Also unavailable for some reason.
Very weird.
I guess that's got something to do with me being in Russia at the moment.
But Samba de Janeiro is available.
Literally the most Brazilian song ever.
W.A.S.P. available for me, Russia too
same for cazuza
and Sozinho
Maybe it's got something to do with Discord.
oh yea I opened them in a browser
i dunno why but that sounds like a dig.
"you've got a face that ai just loves."
Emma Watson's face is for some reason very hard for AI.
But Benedict Cumberbatch's isn't.
Can someone help me use vector studio to make a sticker out of a real picture?
just based on training data
So probably Barbara Palvin's face was used for training more?
Or is it just simpler to draw?
yea, probably just more images with different perspectives
@smoky oak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDmfMlZ2QFo
Oh, yeah I am sold on Vlad's fork for sure. So much faster in everything on my old 1060.
6gb
I am now doing 50 steps ddim for less time than 20
No, but why?
Naw, I have no issues with Russian and is better than having the dumb yellow, blue flag
you see that on twitter bios, etc...
Have nothing against them but I 1000 percent do their current leader. Anyway this is geopolitical so this political discussion is over.
I use ControlNet to generate stuff with good hands and then hi-res fix upscale (I know, it's bad) ends up messing up the hands and making everything else better. Is there a way which makes the hands ok?
Heh... I just found that high res fix is good if you use it right
the problem is not high res fix, its latent upscale for high res fix
@smoky oakLet me tell you I feel the power
What happened?
I ditched Auto
For?
Euler_A 20 steps 40s Vlad 46s Auto1111. 768x768 Vlads is superior speed wise and has it all setup for pytorch2
on a faster card 2x
people are fleeing auto now for vlad
Interesting, but hows its upscale support?
I dunno that is your department not mine. He does updates and PRs and auto is pretty much abandoned automatic1111
Intereasting, maybe I will try it
you should since it does it all for you
at least to see if you get a speed increase
I know I sure did
polus all the shit I use for a gen it just loads it kerpow and there
same as auto
I can help ya but not much help will be needed
I just need the link if possible
I was getting black images more often with Vlad with ControlNet depending on the settings, but it works better overall. Definitely recommend it
thank you
hello
he is merging/working with another well known fork. This is getting good now
I have, but thats not content for this server
can i dm you?
ohhh, Vlad is a fork of A1111
Some consolidation in the UI space is good I think. Perhaps it means people working on it will join forces in the longer term over a single project
that is attractive
cause that means it shouls support high res fix and the scripts
HMMM
yes, so is another about to merge so the coming together of two fantastic forks
Add a knife and you've got a full meal
So I just clone the repository in my folder of choice?
yep
alrighty, I will do that then
after a few minutes I am already at home but the first few was a bit of a shock just because new
vlad is strict on github and he answers fast (does he sleep? no).
btw, I learned my lesson today, as did another, that the github search is shit. Made us both out as if we were lazy and stupid
Now on I use google to search github
I am really wondering how fast your normal gen is compared to auto on that 3060ti
If Vlad is as good as you say, I'll happily switch
its downloading at the moment, I'll hit it as hard as I can :p
He always was good as I used him when 2.0 came and auto refused to make it work for three weeks
it was just a working shell of auto back then now just wow
I wish it were not on gradio but can't have it all
oh, at least I haven't OOM on vlad yet but on auto 5-6 times an hour at least
so bad I couldn't even change models without an OOM but not once on vlad so he fixed something
this is the cleanest installer I have ever seen
if you don't speed up after I gained about 12% something is way wrong
very clean and tidy
yep
I appreciate being able to see whats happening
precisely
a lot of extension are now defaulted in
I don't use controlnet so I disabled it
Yeah it installs a lot of the bread and butter stuff but it's convenient that you can disable stuff you don't need.
Yeah, Is aw that on the page
Cause this is still A1111, I should be able to run this as my persistent web server still, which is super nice
--api is gone
yeah it was replaced but I don't use it either
I port forward the listen to my router and direct connect with IP, then enter my credentials to gain access
first up, webui-user.bat is not there
yeah, just webui.bat
you can grab it from auto and place it in the folder and use it
watch for the flags that changed or no longer exist
all of my optimizations went POOF because they are now in settings. Oh, and KILL --xformers. remove it
cause you are about to use the real Pytorch 2.0 and sdp
oh, so you don't have to restart the whole web UI?
I need to copy some models over, then I can compare
There we go
luckily my NVME drives FLY at model transfer lol
This sounds like what SHARK does but I couldn't get it to work
I just relaunched the bat and its reinstalling the whole programs?
whats up with that?
ok, it looks like it fixed some previous warnings or something
hope it doesn't do that every time
I don't mind it at all now
it grew on me
sort of like herpes
when the other guy merges expect a shit ton of themes
even for mobile devices
hmm...
Its slower
9.4it/s
but it feels more responsive
like the image pops up when done considerably faster
Should I try BF16?
yes
do I need to restart UI for those changes?
maybe, or at least I would for something that drastic
ok, and now its errors
can't pull the prompt from the last image I generated
whole think is broken now
well thats a fun first experience lol
what did you do?
restarted web UI
now I can't access any samplers
and now the images don't show up when done
fun
Guess I am restarting the whole program
now switch to xformers via settings
Where do I enable that?
settings
lmao
yeah, but where?
its not in cuda settings
ah, found it
settings-stable diffusion, cross attention xformers
stable diffusion
click it
this is so fast for me now I can have image previews and not a single slow down
ok, so restarting the UI is useless, good to know
so settings changes are a full program restart
these are huge ass changes
you know, I haven't looked at my vram usage. I know xformers is 5.9gb
restarted and now its nothing but trace back errors
I don't use that on even auto for that reason I close the cli and start it over
Never had a single issue with web ui restart on auto
oh well
where does one put command line args?
in the webui-user.bat
Not seeing any section for command line args
set COMMANDLINE_ARGS=--theme dark --lowvram --xformers --disable-safe-unpickle --port 9000
that is mine from auto
just paste that anywhere?
no
cause that isn't in mine
there is no set commandline_args in mine
only set I have in my whole bat
webui-user.bat I said just copy it over from auto
ahhh, alright
his didn't even come with one
lives in settings now
weird, enabled it and no speed change
ok, vlad has a huge red flag for me
no insecure extension access
that is an absolute pain in the ass
So far I am not sold on this UI at all
its slower
@dense tapirany ideas why its considerably slower?
cause this isn't gonna get me to switch
gonna head to head compare for cerain
No idea because not a single person has said it was slower only faster
For me I can't use xformers it gives me an OOM
probably some setting I missed
yep, missed one
oh hohoho wait
Vlad is WAY faster in this test-
@dense tapirI am very confused
A1111 is faster on paper
but the actual time is slower
I get 10.5it/s in A1111, vs 9.7 in Vlad, but VLAD was way faster in 10 batch
ok and now its not as fast
I don't know
so weird
so A1111 is faster in single image
2.22s vs 2.34s
but in 10 batch its
15.85/11.79
and it seems to be strictly down to post processing time
doing 8 x 50 samples to make for sure certain
8x50 took 33.34s in A1111
trying vlad now
34.1s in vlad
trying a second time to make sure it wasn't just a first start up slow gen
33.83s
hmm...
not sure what to tell you but all signs are pointing to automatic1111 being abandoned and eventually you will have to leave it. Why yours is slower beats me.
It seems close enough to not be a huge deal speed wise, but Vlad is a hell of a lot more touchy for me, thats for sure
alright
go to settings
I will in just a bit
k
I messed up
still, mimic that it will help if you use sdp
Way slower now
Expiramenting with some other settings
Damn, I had to ticket this
00:23:05-192311 INFO Installing package: xformers==0.0.17
00:23:07-055986 INFO Verifying requirements
00:23:07-099210 INFO No changes detected: Quick launch active
00:23:07-102213 INFO Running extension preloading
00:23:07-103214 INFO Server arguments: ['--theme', 'dark', '--lowvram', '--disable-safe-unpickle', '--port',
'9000']
No module 'xformers'. Proceeding without it.
Available models: D:\vlads_automatic\models\Stable-diffusion 90
Loading theme: black-orange
no wonder I OOM'd
Hmm
this is all so strange
different combinations of cross memory attention are slower or faster for me
just trying to find a combination that can match a1111's sopeed
it is what came with pytorch2
what you should be doing is going to vlad and asking why it would be slower cause the dude knows his shit
he isn't a script kiddie like auto
ok, SDP isn't too bad
its just slightly slower than A1111
trying each combination. Its annoying that I have to restart vlad every time, but oh well
@dense tapirbingo
10.29it/s in vlad

That's a start
I blew mine up some how
oop
made it way slower
I got down to 2.2s/it lol
ok, doggettx is a lot slower
yeah, old
Might work on 3 digit nvidia cards
only 8.02it/s with dog
Maxwell
I am going to reinstall 😦
trying sub quad now
what this needs is a reset settings to default
not all at once just a section one
I wanted that on auto too
notice you have sliders for that
💀
that is a little too much effing around and finding out for me-
even vram threshold
trying split attention finally
that left me with a black square
So far scaled dot/SDP is the best
yes, it is the newest
weird how it just barely ties A1111 for me
split attention is the slowest
alrighty
6.1it/s
ok, so disabling split attention
kills everything lol
OOM everywhere
heh
I hope this fixes the shit I did
I doubt it as it says unloading xformers
rip out venv
I know pytorch2 does use less vram
they said it would and yeah
@dense tapirOk weird
so
hmmm
I changed some of your settings and my batch got decently faster
from 1.58it/s to 1.67it/s for 8 batch
but my single image went from 10.3it/s to 9.5it/s
how weird
yeah, so my batch went to 31s which is baster than A1111's 33.34
its this setting
on gets me higher single image, lower multi
off is higher multi, lower single
how weird
that is a big one for 4090 and 3090 but mostly for 4090
BF16 is FP16 on roids is why.
they are both 16 bits
whatever you do don't zap venv as I am going to have to start all over it appears
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'clip'
@dense tapirWhat is cuDNN?
cause its giving me some weird results
HOLY HELL
ok
what is this
it takes like 10 seconds to work, but then boom, 11.9it/s
it takes a long time to start, and a long time to process after
but while its generating it hits the highest speeds I have ever seen on my GPU
but once it does that once, its fine
but only at that batch size
this is so weird
if I go from 1 to 8, it has to do the whole process again-
cuDNN is your cuda stuff
1.65it/s 8 batch, 11.6it/s 1 batch
yeah, this is touchy af. No more just ripping out venv
wth?
its really slow to first use, but then its insanely fast
Enable cuDNN
did you click that compile shit?
it takes a long time to gen, but once it has, it flies
I have seen up to 11.9it/s with this setting on
well, you haven't seen anything yet if that compile will work
Not sure how it works as there is no compile button but might be for batch work so only temp
its doing something
the gen has paused at the start again like cuDNN did
CPU is at 15%
RAM is slowly increasing
perhaps this is it
yes
SHARK will make a big model file that anytime you use that resolution and that model it uses it instead and flies faster than the wind
ok, this is behaving exactly like cuDNN, but not as fast
use together?
ok now its faster
1.65it/s on 8 batch
11.4it/s again
screw it
trying together lol
I mean honestly
having to wait a few minutes at the start for a 10% speed increase from then on is a win IMO
cause I keep my SD active for like a week at a time lol
I wish it would work like SHARK
together is still 11.4 it/s average
Yeah, experimental but there is hope
I love how fast it loads a model
this is how fast Linux loads it on auto
At least my speed is back. I am not sure what happened
happened after I let it do xformers
trying cudagraphs
gave Vlad a try thanks to you guys talking about it. loads my embedding -substantially- faster. which is important for me lol
ok, its dooin stuff
ok, cudagraphs is faster to get to the sped up result
about 7 seconds waited before gen
I use 5 locons all about 800mb and in auto it took over a min in vlad seconds
my load time dropped from about ~3 minutes to less than 1. pretty happy with that alone. so long as the speed is comparable, i'm a convert
I already deleted auto
you need to be watching your cuda gpu in task manager. If it is staying 100% then that is your hard limit
trying aot ts nvfuser
taskmanager reports 0 utilization in SD
to get to the cuda you have to use the drop down
does the same with render
switch one of the graphs to cuda
default is 3d not cuda
ok, nvfuser was the best so far
only a few seconds wait before and after gen
but its only 10.4 it/s
which is basically my normal speed
also, cuda is working now
thank you <3
I think I have opened vlad more today than A1111 ever lol
I got an error so maybe my card is finally dying.
I am using cuDNN and its suddenly working way faster
it seems to run the whole process, cache it, and then keep it in memory to speed it up
WOO 1.71it/s batch size 8
I don't do batches so which was for speeding up singles?
oh shoot, i forgot
batch is super slow even with the benchmark on
Time to burn rubber
ok so torch mem with cuDNN is the fastest
but it has a really long start and end pause
but once you do that one, it flies
never worked for me
Now we're flying
batch size 8
Alright, these are my final settings I am sticking with
yes, it takes a long time before and after, but its the fastest of both
didn't do anything for me
weird
must be some tensor core thing
yeah maybe
oh wow, something with my settings is hammering my VRAM
Dreamstudio is the current option
Oh isn't lexica like extremely bad or something?
Yeah, lexcia was in a huge legal battle
They both appear to run basic SD models with meh results
My recommendation for free Ai is actually https://dream.ai/create
Create beautiful artwork using the power of AI. Enter a prompt, pick an art style and watch WOMBO Dream turn your idea into an AI-powered painting in seconds.
it does way better than the two you just said
Mage space's result
Wombo dreams result
Mage space
Dream
its also faster
and has tons of styles
its a solid service honestly, its what i came from
its not as good as actual SD, but its a lot better than lexica and mage space
im new to SD and im trying something basic and i cant seem to get the result, im not trying to change her face just make her vibrant, i know somethings wrong with my prompt or settings just could use some advice from the pros
Are you using a vae?
how about in promt type: Make her vibrant
Look up berry mix vae
i added vibrant
i meant only make her vibrant without anything
just use a photo editor-
like gimp? or photoshop?
yeah, something
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i dont know how to do it in gimp or photoshop either lol newbie over here
@smoky oakI toggled those on and it is sitting here doing something as my card is revved up for a min now but no its
Dang, still sitting here
@wispy nestComparison between Mage, Dream, and dedicated SD
100% utilized now it comes
cuDNN takes a while
it has to go through the entire generation first, then actually do it, then cache it a third time
almost 5m
but you only have to do it once, then that res and batch is cached
unless you restart SD, then it has to do it again
5m exactly
but if all you do is square gens, the time saving could be worth it eventually
I am still waiting for it to appear
sheesh, must be a tensor core thing
still waiting
I guess this will be a 10+ min dealio
so, same rez and same model it remembers?
A photograph of a woman in a mexican dancing dress, smiling, tan skin, curly black hair
Mage, dream, SD
SD has a bit of a quality jump haha
yeah
This is not to be used for non TC cards unless you had a ton to gen with
batch, size, and model
SHARK does this but saves the file as a model so it just uses it the next time
the faster the GPU, the easier it is to use
also, both together is WAY slower
just cuDNN isn't that slow
you said to do both 😦
that is the fastest overall gen speed for single and batch, but it takes a longgg time to load
if you just want single then its just memory like I said before
Well, just one or the other didn't do anything for me
then I am not sure in that case


