🌶｜off-topic

[restive root]

@dusky nymph

[modest sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/stupid-wtf-omg-bruh-wow-gif-5690082

[rich mortar]

I demand to see the evidence.

[restive root]

https://tenor.com/view/overwatch-cute-smile-gif-12498814

[fast oak]

Do you have the bot link

[trim dragon]

Haha, maybe we could have a dall-e mini bot in a channel in here

[unborn hearth]

Yes it's in my plans 😉

[unborn hearth]

I already made one actually, using craiyon.com backend. I'm just busy with other stuff atm

[trim dragon]

Awesome!

[restive root]

@gilded gate calve is extremely tasty

[gilded gate]

What is 'Kaarsteun' supposed to mean

[restive root]

real name is Karsten

and Kaarssteun is just a play on words

doesnt really mean anything

Candle support

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[gilded gate]

Oh ok, pretty cool though

Also being Dutch but born in Germany must be awesome because you get to learn German without having to study unlike in the Netherlands

[restive root]

exactly

but

ill be known as the german in the netherlands

and the dutchie in germany

[gilded gate]

Just flex your German in the Netherlands

[restive root]

and my dutch in germany

[gilded gate]

Exactly

[restive root]

i do have a dutch accent in german though

not too bad

but probably detectable

[gilded gate]

I have a slight accent when speaking English but all that matters is that people manage to understand you without a hassle

Best Dutch word is Onafhankelijkheidsdag because I still can't wrap my head around the fact that millions of people see this word and think 'yeah, that's normal'

[restive root]

that is normal!

[gilded gate]

That word is actually not that hard to pronounce

[restive root]

then whats your opinion on Arbeidsongeschiktheidsverzekeringsmaatschappij

[gilded gate]

What?

I recognize arbeid, verzekering and maatschappij but not the other word

[restive root]

Arbeid Ongeschikt heids verzekerings maatschappij

[gilded gate]

Oh ok so that word is just about a company for insurance of those who cannot work

[restive root]

yes

[gilded gate]

Dutch orthography is based but what I don't like is how you sometimes put the verb at the end

[restive root]

im not big into grammar

linguistics

idk what that means lol

[gilded gate]

'Ik moet iets zeggen' and not 'ik moet zeggen iets' like english for example

[restive root]

oh

but the latter sounds so off

lol

[gilded gate]

Sometimes translating sentences can be so hard because of that

[restive root]

are you learning dutch?

french native?

[gilded gate]

Yes

[restive root]

nice

i learned french in school for three years, forgot everything

[gilded gate]

No not nice, French is so weird

[restive root]

lool

dutch uses some french words

plafond

douche

paraplu

cadeau

[gilded gate]

With English it's worse

[restive root]

yeah?

but then they changed the words heavily no?

[gilded gate]

Yes and most loan words come from medieval French

[restive root]

some more dutch examples, bouillon, capuchon, bureau, abonnement, ballon, charmant, commandant

[gilded gate]

To change for example comes from French changer

[restive root]

oo right

dutch is way off

veranderen

[gilded gate]

And there's also purchase, mutton, beef, castle, city, ...

[restive root]

kopen, schapenvlees, rundvlees, kasteel, stadt

[gilded gate]

Budget, bourgeois, café, camouflage, chef, connoisseur, coup d’état, croissant, cuisine, étiquette, façade, fiancé, garage, genre, hôtel, morale, prestige, souvenir,...

[restive root]

Budget, burgerlijk, café, camouflage, chef-kok, fijnproever, staatsgreep, croissant, keuken, etiquette, facade, verloofde, garage, geslacht, hotel, moraal, prestige, souvenir

[gilded gate]

Burgeroorlog is burger war

[restive root]

lol

[gilded gate]

Burgerkrieg too

And French has something that I absolutely hate, they create fake english words such as parking, autocar, brushing, caddie, clip, ....

They mean car park, coach, blow-dry, shopping cart, music video

[restive root]

Lol

German tries to make german words for everything, but almost always fail

Instead of laptop, klapprechner

Noonr says that

Ever

[gilded gate]

Quebec too

Do germans translate movie titles?

[restive root]

Yeah

[gilded gate]

Why? It's so silly

[restive root]

Very

[gilded gate]

It's funny though

[ionic coyote]

Does anyone know how to invite or make the craiyon bot to my server?

[tall basin]

Oh hell naw bro 20 steps

[neon hinge]

@crude steppe thx for the gen’s man

[uncut parrot]

https://discord.com/api/oauth2/authorize?client_id=1002660678013816842&scope=applications.commands might be private idk i havent tried it

yep it is private

you cant add it

[subtle cargo]

holy shit

it's dringo

[sullen barn]

@wispy tiger can i have a role thats says graphic designer becouse i am a graphic designer

[ionic coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/768116388413308939/1002994463905435728/piston.webm

rip desktop users

[lapis bolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/709311691569233972/1002823367776272426/coloride.webm?size=4096 something similar

[ionic coyote]

i had a stroke lmao

it was hard to reply

[subtle cargo]

@sullen barn why did u ping kaarssteun in #1002295809439711243 that literally makes no sense

[sullen barn]

euh becouse i want my prompt done but nobady is doing it

[subtle cargo]

my dude i dont think anyone is really willing to do these as theyre super weird and egotistical

[stoic robin]

yeah

theres ur epic boy

[subtle cargo]

can u stop asking now its kinda annoying

[burnt raven]

does anyone know how bad are google colab limits? just got my first one... do they worsen over time?

[subtle cargo]

@strange ermine it doesnt rlly matter u can do whatever u want lol this isnt dalle 2

[west wind]

Try An alien playing blackjack and winning in a jungle, Pixel Art

Try Harry Potter eating a bowl of cereal in a cave, Realistic digital painting

[strange ermine]

The Sonic one I requested didn't really turn out that well, i guess it isn't really good with certain characters, someone should try and fork it to add more training data to reach at least a billion images when it goes open source

when I get beta access i'm going to try and do a bunch of generations

because you kind of have to generate a few to get it right

this is pretty much a glorified craiyon

this image

it generated his head well though

[restive root]

haha

[subtle cargo]

lmao

[simple plank]

Any thoughts about this https://www.reddit.com/r/midjourney/comments/wcwedm/subreddits_starting_to_ban_aigenerated_art_for/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[subtle cargo]

p dumb tbh

[restive root]

AI learns like we do.

images go into its mind, change its neural net weights a little, and leaves

that's exactly how we learn

calling AI plagiarism is the same as banning art museums because we get inspiration from them

[simple plank]

Thanks for your thoughts

[manic rover]

What are they going to do with the people who use ai art just as reference or ‘paint-overs’ then? Lol it’s not like they could tell in the end product

[cerulean scroll]

Heyyyyyyyyyy like are faces allowed of people with stable?

Or no.

[subtle cargo]

have you taken a look at #1002331558453198878

judge for yourself id say

[cerulean scroll]

Okkkkkk o.o

[restive root]

faces of well known people are allowed

no personal info though

[fast oak]

When stability chatbot lol

[nimble kernel]

would be cool if we had some character bots that talked to each other and would render pics so we can just laugh at them

[limpid egret]

That's a good idea

[modern plover]

sounds like the ais will start a revolution

[remote stratus]

I've just finished reading Star Wars sequel trilogy

[subtle cargo]

its so dissapointing to know it doesnt know kiryu or majima

[neon hinge]

I had a dream I had stable-diffusion access today for some reason there was also the yakuza but I have no idea why

[restive root]

lmao people are dreaming about AI access

nerds

chad nerds though

[neon hinge]

that’s what happens when you stay up way to late in the stable-diffusion discord server lol

Plus I’m so much more hyped for this than dalle-2

Because, y’know, it’s open and all dat

[limpid egret]

[gloomy shoal]

You won't understand our pain 🙁

[gloomy shoal]

I got Dalle-2 access few days ago after so so freaking long and now i don't even wanna use it because the prompts are so limited

[west wind]

what do you mean limited

[gloomy shoal]

like they only have 50 prompts for free and then afterwards they are just too expensive

[quick minnow]

We need more SD-generated emotes in this server smh

[unborn hearth]

i agree

[quick minnow]

if only mods and people with access weren’t so sleepy

Tbf it’s prob like midnight for most people

southern hemisphere moment

[cerulean scroll]

Can someone show me what variations are like. Can we turn existing art into something else? Sorry if that sounds dumb

[unborn hearth]

i cant do variation right now myself, but i'll show you something

[cerulean scroll]

@unborn hearth okkkkkkkkk

[unborn hearth]

Yeah you can take existing art, or draw something with MS paint and turn it into something

[cerulean scroll]

Ohhhhhh okkkkk ;A; @unborn hearth

[unborn hearth]

Prompt was: pencil sketch pigeon with this image

[cerulean scroll]

So amazing @unborn hearth

[crisp wave]

An example from another AI (Wombo). My MS paint doodle is on the left; Wombo's variation is on the right. The prompt was "HOT DOG"

And here's an example using Dalle2 to generation variations on a picture of a fat husky.
https://recordcrash.substack.com/p/unnatural-selection-of-chunky-dogs-dall-e-2

A SD-variation feature would be implemented differently from either of these, of course. But the basic idea is the same.

[cerulean scroll]

x.x

[quick minnow]

#1002331558453198878 message

Real GTA6 graphics ong

[subtle cargo]

asuka?

[gilded plank]

cogvideo

[fringe wave]

I got a prompt through cogvideo on huggingface after like 8 hours in the queue and it was uh...

"crying cowboy"

[patent roost]

@calm lotus are you here?

[calm lotus]

Grats

[fast oak]

How can you add the craiyon bot or something to ur server

[fast oak]

finally got dalle access and credits are now burned, hope this goes public soon

as credit system is robbery

[unborn hearth]

yeah and can take a lot of credits to get soemthing decent

what I like about SD is refining prompts multiple times, adding 2-3 keywords at a time.. can't do that with dalle

[patent roost]

I like waiting to SD

[fast oak]

if this stays free forever (its gonna be open source so it will) then this can and will eventually beat dalle for average joes atleast

[vagrant plume]

There's a reason why companies use Linux so much...

[limpid egret]

this

[glossy wave]

GPU time can never be truly free, but being open means there can be a race to the bottom to provide it at the best cost - and different services appealing to different people at different price tiers

But I would not make the assumption you will get unlimited free usage from anyone for very long, except yourself on your own GPU 🙂

[fast oak]

Would a 3070 be enough?

I assume not

But i could always be wrong

[glossy wave]

for SD I believe it may be?

[fast oak]

Like full sd

Thats being showcased

[glossy wave]

.... maybe? last I heard they were trying to fit the base model in 6 or 8GB but it wasn't for sure

[fast oak]

Ooh

I assume it wouldn't be super fast but would be interesting for sure

[glossy wave]

current research indicates it's the amount of training data, not the size of the model, that matters most, so that's why it's even reasonable to think they could pull it off

[frozen marsh]

Well your own GPU would cost like $6500 isn’t it? Even dalle2 seems cheap in comparison 😅

[glossy wave]

stable diffusion will run on consumer GPUs so no 🙂

[frozen marsh]

That’s cool, that will bring the cost down by a lot even using VMs.

[glossy wave]

yeah, I'm able to generate pretty high res stuff with majesty diffusion right now for a net cost of somewhere around $0.04/image and that's renting server-class GPUs, I expect it to improve

free it is not, but that's pretty cheap

[gilded plank]

Hey

[hexed goblet]

of mna

[outer yoke]

It was defintely a bait-and-switch on openAI's part to have Dall-E mini/Craiyon be NSFW-friendly and having Dall-E proper be so G-rated to the point where pictures of pro-wrestlers wearing brief-style trunks are considered too risque and are not allowed.

Not to mention no copyrighted charachters, no real life people, no depictions of weapons, no depictions of explosions, warfare, tasteful artistic nudity and the list goes on and on. I'm already hearing stories of people buying a ton of credits and then being banned from the service for typing in one too many flagged prompts

[glossy wave]

Dall-E mini was not created by OpenAI it was simply based on their work, lots of confusion around that

that's why the name changed

[tepid swallow]

Interesting, for comparison DALL-E charges $0.03 per image

[tall crescent]

isnt dalle 13c per image

[tepid swallow]

No, 13c per prompt, each prompt gives 4 images

[glossy wave]

yeah you can see why I tell people it's not actually that unreasonable 😄 My outputs are higher res and my cost isn't optimized, so I'm very sure it costs them less by a good margin, but ballpark seems pretty sane.

It'd be bad if they priced too low because it'd be hard for others to compete

[sullen barn]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxQZivSotP0rl5AXY3yPdI8rijFOtn3JB_

[manic rover]

I don’t understand the hang up about ai generated nsfw stuff. I’d rather have fake content of people who never existed than actual people getting exploited.

Even ai generated stock photos of a baby animal underwater or something is better than stock photo companies distressing and harming real animals

[tepid swallow]

But what if people ask for child celebrities being exploited? They are not fake people who never existed

[glossy wave]

a lot of it feels overly alarmist because it's not like it's capable of creating content people couldn't create; and responsibility still falls on anyone asking for and/or distributing anything they shouldn't, existing laws work fine

[glossy wave]

same as if you photoshopped it imo

just because the level of skill required is lower doesn't change what you're doing

and that's why we see kinda blurry lines

low quality Dall-E mini generations? no one cares

that kind of stuff is already acceptable content for the most part

[stoic robin]

fuckijgn vibe

[main crest]

it's your dad playing ?

[stoic robin]

in his band, ye

[main crest]

wow, nice

[stoic robin]

he's one of the vocals in this one

main vocal on this one actually

[main crest]

what's the song's name ?

[stoic robin]

"

"i'ma go drown"

[main crest]

🤔

[stoic robin]

the lyrics literally go

"i'm gonna go drown myself in a deep river"

"they'll start searchin' but they won't find me anytime soon"

"you'll be crying, years will pass"

"you won't be able to forget me till death"

Yeah it's a

kinda grim song if ya think about it but

what's kinda funny is how the supposed protagonist of the lyrics complains that the river he found is smelly and full of industrial waste

so he goes on a search to find a cleaner spot

here's a significantly less grim one

it's about grain 😎

[patent roost]

Job 🇵🇱

[main crest]

I love it, do you have more ? What's the title of this one ?

[stoic robin]

"It'll replant itself"

sorta

idk how to translate it well

[fast oak]

which AI did you use ?

it's cool 👍

[stoic robin]

i used a natural intelligence called my dad :d

[main crest]

what's this one ?

[stoic robin]

"play a song for me, ol' gypsy"

[main crest]

it's good

when were they made ?

[stoic robin]

90s i believe?

80s?

my dad was part of a restaurant-playing musical band

these were all recorded in one go

[main crest]

very nice :o

[twilit horizon]

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cg2KS0YrRfP/ MCU/CMT lol

artzage_com

CMT/MCU COMING SOON!
Marvel Country Stars!

Instagram

[calm lotus]

@patent roost LESGO 🔥

[fast oak]

How long did it take?

[patent roost]

I used all 50 credits in 30 min

[fast oak]

Ok

[calm lotus]

June 16th is when I signed up, so if you're in that ballpark it shouldn't be long

[fast oak]

Okk thanks

[tall crescent]

when did you sign

[fast oak]

Today 😂😂

[tall crescent]

thx

[drifting trail]

i been in the hills fucking dood

i been in the hills fucking dood

i been in the hills fucking dood

[restive root]

apr 14th still not in :D

[tall crescent]

They must have skipped you😢

[restive root]

ehh its fine

i've got SD

:)

[wooden basin]

Same, but I did get in yesterdayish

[calm lotus]

But do I? 🥲

[calm lotus]

They are totally screwing over early sign ups, absolutely

[pulsar fossil]

I literally put nothing in the DALL-E 2 form, as far as they know a random Joe and I got in on the 29th I think

Although I did have GPT3 beta access

[woven heart]

"Open"AI really needs to change their name, it's very misleading

[pulsar fossil]

Yes

[haughty moon]

my brain at 3 AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e51weUxpG5A

[limpid egret]

[neon hinge]

Is this SD lol?

[limpid egret]

yup

[haughty moon]

dalle 2 images are getting more random and unrealistic it is actually killing me

[limpid egret]

signed for beta

but ithink

[haughty moon]

how did you get accesses

ok

[limpid egret]

beta is closed right now

[haughty moon]

ok

[limpid egret]

i mean the singed up thing

[haughty moon]

i signed a couple of days ago lol

sd is way better then dalle 2

i used dalle 2

and it is getting worse with every update

which is weakly

[fast oak]

ouch they must be doing something wrong then 😄

[haughty moon]

yes

[haughty moon]

me waiting for gta 6

[tranquil badger]

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-twitch-twitchtv-twitch-emote-kek-gif-19085736

[strong jacinth]

hello

Are we still waiting for the beta?

I thought it was today.

It is my birthday so I was looking for this one with enthusiasm

[main crest]

happy birthday :)

[neon hinge]

Should be real soon, happy birthday btw 🥳

[wild tinsel]

Just tried the Craiyon bot. Why does it have to mangle faces so bad??

[warm elk]

My body is so ready

[wet scarab]

it is a much cheaper model made by a different creator

it's main draw is that it is free and doesn't require a beta, but the drawback is you get what you pay for I guess

[wanton thunder]

It’s honestly a lot better than it used to be though

[fast oak]

Wombo ai is now as good as sheknov or however you spell it bot but not as good as midjourney

[idle copper]

This is from NSFW server, just thought it's funny 😂😂

[spare musk]

Howdey all there

[dapper turret]

Hi all

I am new to stability

can anyone walk me through how can I request for prompts/images. I see there is a #1002295809439711243 channel but no image in it

will the completed images show up in another channel? and is there any limit to the number of requests one can send (perday/per month?)

Thanks!

[neon hinge]

#🤝｜tech-support

[eager oracle]

So like... Stable Diffusion is the Walter White generator and Midjourney is the Danny DeVito generator??

[neon hinge]

Let me see…

[wild tinsel]

So if I'm not mistaken, Dalle2 has changed a bit. Instead of stopping prompts that include names of celebrities, now it just gives you a generic person that kinda sorta resembles the celebrity you asked for. I know it could do better if it wasn't being dumbed down cause I saw the Dalle2 of Audrey Hepburn in the "The Matrix".

[drifting trail]

ain't you nathaniel b

[vagrant rover]

@pure junco first 4 are exactly as u asked, last 3 I added 3D render and studio lighting

[indigo quarry]

@vagrant rover polygonal robot wolf, anthropomorphic, glowing eyes

Please 😬

[vagrant rover]

First 2 are normal, last 3 are with “3D render” added, I love the third one lol

[sudden flower]

Unfortunately it seems to not be aware of a lot of things…. For instant asking for a human sized alien gets you, almost nothing. It doesn’t know what an alien is etc. I get that they want to keep it true to life…. But they should make two models… one with wild stuff in it.

[paper kite]

@jade cosmos

[jade cosmos]

no no no

THE SUN

not the one from kellogs

[paper kite]

@jade cosmos

[fast oak]

not this mf

[drifting trail]

No furries

[vagrant rover]

nothing furry about that dog sir

[drifting trail]

The last one looks like a fursuit

[vagrant rover]

https://labs.openai.com/s/yozr8d2WaXFGQccCF01AOfE9 i added fur but got none 😦 prob the polygonal part

[drifting trail]

Does SD know who Andrew Tate is

[neon hinge]

Prob not dataset is a bit old

[upbeat plinth]

just use jeff bezos instead 😄

[little sentinel]

Cool model hype

I should be actually doing something

Opensource model

[soft heron]

Open source gang

[drifting trail]

Good morning USA
I got a feeling that it's gonna be a wonderful day

[fresh wyvern]

what was the ban message?

[tender ore]

Lol

[drifting trail]

lol

[clever basalt]

No way

1984

[fresh wyvern]

lol how is that misinformation?

[fast oak]

OpenAI, not so open

[fresh wyvern]

like having stuff they dont want you to do on their server is one thing, but not being honest about speficially what people cant do is malicious

if people cant do things, they need to specifically know what that is

the problem too with how they are autiomating moderation, is usually this stuff has a lot of false positives

[fast oak]

Imagine those who will pay and find themselves banned in the same way ...

[fresh wyvern]

like i was in a community once that'd auto kick you for saying "fukushima"

because the bot just sees fuku, and they never cared to fix it

and this was during the time of the fukushima nuclear disaster

my run in with dalle's stuff is it didnt like the word "fight" but also doesnt tell you what it didnt like

but is completely fine with a prompt that includes "watching people suffer"

as i was trying to make a prompt of someone watching over a gladatorial colosseum type scene, which feels perfectly innocent

[fast oak]

For sure, when SD is going to be unveiled to the general public, I doubt very much that DALL-E 2 will still be able to attract people.

[fresh wyvern]

the one thing dall-e has going for it at the moment, is the 15 free prompts per month, when compared to midjourney's offering

but also i feel like "dall e mini" will lead to people being dissapointed with dall e 2

due to how dall e 2 doesnt seem to be that useful for memes

[fast oak]

Yeah

[fresh wyvern]

as thats where all the dall e mini hype came from, how easy it was to make memes

out of the two im more impressed with midjourney, due to how it seems to be more useful for artistic type prompts

but from what ive seen SD makes both of them obsolite

[fast oak]

SD is the best so far at the moment

[fresh wyvern]

its disruptive in a good way

and you kinda need disruption like this

[fast oak]

I wonder what will become of it in the months, years to come!

Text-to-video in 4K ...

[fresh wyvern]

an example of useful disruption in other fields, would be blender for 3d art, and davinchi resolve for video editing

both of them making learning those skills accessible to anyone

and SD looks like its gonna take a similar approach

[little sentinel]

I'll honk in here instead

Honk

[nocturne notch]

A small collage of what SD is capable of

[nocturne notch]

Semi realistic anime illustration

[misty shore]

used that as prompt. sick result

[nocturne notch]

Kind of looks like killua

[astral pasture]

I have a sizable youtube account, are we gonna be allowed to screen record in this discord and show the world on Youtube ?

[nocturne notch]

Ask one of the mods, you can also ask in #🤝｜tech-support

[patent roost]

🇵🇱

[nocturne notch]

Mods said you can!

[astral pasture]

Thanks!

[nocturne notch]

Please share the link to the video when you upload it 🤩

[vapid rune]

Anyone here on Twitter? Share your art.

[drifting trail]

My new profile picture, made with Stable diffusion

[pearl moss]

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[thin monolith]

Jesus

[wraith axle]

That's an entire novel, my dude

[fast oak]

!dream cat

[mellow flame]

Y'all know of other sites / tools that help on the 2d image to 3D model pipeline? The one I kind of use right now is https://picto3d.com/ but all that really does is create a 3D mesh, which becomes less effective for more complex prompts.

I work in Blender nearly everyday but always hunting for more things to try.

[split temple]

Thanks for the link, this one is pretty good!

[mellow flame]

Sure thing!, it's nice on lots of the textures I make in MJ but models can be pretty high poly.

[split temple]

I am going to give it a try in Maya with quad draw and see if it speeds up my flow.

[mellow flame]

An example of a recent piece:

the lights I think tend to distort the export

normal mapping is also worth tweaking with

[dawn bobcat]

I'm a early member and I see no bot

[unkempt sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/burning-office-spongebob-on-fire-gif-13729593

[merry hedge]

theres a lot of people its definitely going to take time

[slow coral]

Do you see extra new channels?

[dawn bobcat]

No

[worldly dawn]

HONK

[slow coral]

[paper tangle]

a

how do I get roles

[slow coral]

Some are available in #1002292387051212860

[fast oak]

I Have Minions The Rise Of Gru As A Webm

[ionic cliff]

Waiting for prompt request pic + Bot

Hopefully soon..

[fast oak]

this is a great presentation

[molten agate]

c:

[polar tapir]

hi

[mild sequoia]

Hi

[clever marten]

!dream Lukashenka in the style of the painting "The Scream" by Edvard Munch)

Why I can't dream?

[ebon mesa]

hi

[opaque vale]

Hi

[frozen bridge]

Is that a New Zealand accent, @lofty bolt ? Regardless it encourages me to share: Alien Weaponry look them up everyone if you like Metal. Fantastic stuff.

[dusty sphinx]

!dream lightsaber battle, neon cityscape background

[wispy cedar]

I'm starting to dream for @dusty sphinx, !dream "lightsaber battle, neon cityscape background" -S 2355603876

[wispy cedar]

I'm starting to dream for @dusty sphinx, !dream "lightsaber battle, neon cityscape background" -S 3082215003

[wispy cedar]

I'm starting to dream for @dusty sphinx, !dream "lightsaber battle, neon cityscape background" -S 2622600680

[wispy cedar]

I'm starting to dream for @dusty sphinx, !dream "lightsaber battle, neon cityscape background" -S 4117555151

[fast oak]

tragic

spamming like that, shameless

[hexed stump]

we are 100% not getting access to the bot today with everybody breaking things

[heavy hollow]

you guys might need to mute the whole server

[fast oak]

it's smoothing out

[heavy hollow]

genuinely, its awful

@limpid egret its awful seeing people spam

impatient people

[heavy gazelle]

yoo he is 2.63M on youtube

[limpid egret]

ill ban them

dont test the staffs patience

[heavy hollow]

good. its horrible, you guys have a job to do, they made such an awesome software and everyone is taking advantage

[limpid egret]

they gonna have access anyway

dont rush it

[heavy hollow]

exactly,

[haughty mango]

Darth Vader voice: I find your lack of patience disturbing (to the entire server)

[limpid egret]

were working so hard to put the bot in here

give us a litttttlee time

[tawdry yacht]

What 's happening ... Just be patient.

[heavy hollow]

im like google rn with my roles, "im feelin' lucky"

[limpid egret]

you guys gonna try it too dont rush

[heavy hollow]

happy im one of the few to get access early

gonna enjoy trying it out

[haughty mango]

Yeah try not to mind people spamming, they're just impatient, keep up the good work 👍

[heavy hollow]

im patient and im looking forward to it

[young dust]

I've decided this is the most civil place

[dusty sphinx]

hugged to death

[heavy hollow]

heres some kittens

[heavy gazelle]

apology for trying to use the plot holes sorry

[dreamy rover]

I apologize for testing the command earlier, I was really curious 😛

[young dust]

i know there will be days i dont know what to eat and this will decide for me

[red otter]

i wanna ask if asking for smoking in an ai image a kickable offense i just want to be as strict as i can with a little wiggle room

[limpid egret]

[cursive heart]

!dream -h

[true forum]

!dream a han holding a sign that says finally -n 6

[red otter]

i would think to avoid ||blood or death|| in any way. fighting can probably be ok but id avoid it, i just dont know if asking for a character smoking is promoting ||drugs|| and thus a bannable offense which id rather avoid lol

[mystic cosmos]

Hello

[lament sinew]

Needs more jpeg

[wind cave]

How eluther ai earns?

[modest sandal]

Does anyone have a recording of me asking my question during the stage today? I would love to hear how bad it apparently sounded 😂

[robust kite]

Do we have to post somewhere to get invited?

[blissful sorrel]

Nah, you're already here, that means you already got invited and entered the beta. The problem is that #1002331558453198878 isn't working properly since this morning, so we have to wait until the #1002295809439711243 start working again.

[hallow cargo]

Just checking my roles rq dont mind me

Nice

[bleak grotto]

novelai showcasing stable diffusion on their twitch (look it up, cant post links)

[primal idol]

i didnt record but we could clearly hear you alongside extreme wind and rain(?) and also what sounded like far away childrens voices

[static pumice]

👋 greetings earthlings

[waxen zenith]

what's that ?

[mellow flame]

Think my prompt was "holographic dragon scales" or something like that

[waxen zenith]

thanks

[modest sandal]

Sounds about right lol

[fiery flume]

Any MJ users?

Seeing if some of my people are here as well haha

Damn, this chat is way quieter

[waxen zenith]

yes

[wanton gorge]

Yep

[gusty granite]

/!dream the world a better place

[fiery flume]

Hell yeah

I'm doing some interior design stuff on there while I wait

Curious to see what interior design looks like on Stable

[spice kernel]

Yeah was/am a MJ user, signed up for the $30/month plan and burned through all of it in fast mode in two days lol

[fickle knoll]

Hi

[fiery flume]

Yeah, next month I am definitely using more relaxed time. I feel like burning through it the first couple of days is a fuckup many people make

[snow sluice]

Test

[silver saffron]

test

[delicate quail]

test

[mellow flame]

Private plan MJ user here, close to 8k images in three months. Mostly my main AI tool of choice currently

[swift quartz]

[foggy crag]

I looked at the pictures that are generated... a portal to hell has opened.))

[little sentinel]

hiiiiii green

[worldly dawn]

hiiiiiiiiii

[little sentinel]

heloooo

[candid sapphire]

@tender ferry so japanese disco is called ‘city pop’ cool

[warm grail]

Hello Guys, i reuploaded the live talk of today on youtube. Feel free to watch it again 🤓 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqTLkt-Ycwo

[high kelp]

Does this include the "wingman" incident? XD

[warm grail]

you mean the guy who talk while sitting in a windtunnel? i cutted it out

[polar girder]

Hey

Some one

Please

Helpe

How I ext stream group live

I exit discord and they still keep talk

Omg...

[ionic coyote]

the prompt was alright too 💀

[north glacier]

🦶

[fickle basin]

can we do video game texturepacks?

i want to make a smw mod and other mario related texturepacks from the 90s

what prompt may i use/

[patent remnant]

This is super on topic and relevant. You should post this in the normal chat if you haven’t already

[cosmic nymph]

https://giphy.com/gifs/studiosoriginals-alphabet-gilphabet-26gsgKGMCiVFsNw8U

[dim bluff]

@night siren

[keen imp]

Blenderbot 3 available now

https://blenderbot.ai/

https://www.producthunt.com/posts/blenderbot-3

[fast oak]

Hope everyone's real well today

[pure estuary]

no u!

[fast oak]

Awww

[past ore]

🖌️

[urban mica]

https://tenor.com/view/kumala-la-kumala-mrtti-gif-25688572

[novel fossil]

Is a totally dense decoder for an autoencoder a bad idea?
I am thinking of training such a model

[somber mica]

https://twitter.com/Bickpixx/status/1556036668024659969

Travis Bickerstaff 🆖️ (@Bickpixx)

R.I.P Carlo Bonomi, the original voice of Pingu. 1937-2022

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Twitter · Aug 6, 2022, 9:57 PM

[little sentinel]

We rest

I pray for the awesome effort from our contributes that help out people

Enjoy the lovely Sunday all

[iron ridge]

hi

[misty osprey]

.

[radiant meadow]

[somber mica]

heya s1ck

[blazing trail]

what armor set is better? the COG from Gears of War; or the Marines in Warhammer?

[sage wraith]

what would you guys do if you would have 4000 A100 graphic cards?

[patent bear]

hopefully today is the dayyyy

[shadow granite]

heya, how do I use stable diffusion ?

[hollow glade]

/faq

[outer isle]

Have to wait until we get a role

[wraith finch]

Play roblox

[young heart]

Hi happy to be here 😀

/faq

[knotty bough]

/faq

[undone nexus]

/faq

[fast oak]

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Set a countdown

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More Examples:

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[willow crater]

*winks at you*

https://captain-price-officially.tumblr.com/post/689145603664510976

[oak void]

#📣｜announcements message

Was I one of the people that made my mother ashamed?

[little sentinel]

probably

no

probably

[fresh crypt]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/636e8ec5161ec6b1f73c29c6a67cc283/04d1e907e618900f-13/s1280x1920/41a6be161cab59fb2d2c67b72c4a355137ca0ab7.gif

[solid heron]

Awwwww ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[vagrant plume]

The year is 2120, Costco finally closes its doors after letting hotdogs be a loss leader for over 100 years. The price of a hotdog is still $1.50, the equivalent of purchasing a gumball from a gumball machine.

[vernal ibex]

I wanted to mention we created a very rapidly-growing Stable Diffusion Artist Community on Facebook. We would love to have you join! https://www.facebook.com/groups/stablediffusion.art

[sacred canopy]

Stable DIFFUSION IS Better THAN MIDJOURNEY

[wind cave]

No

[sacred canopy]

@wind cave it is at somethings

[wind cave]

You have some kind of comparison?

[sacred canopy]

@wind cave

Top is stable diffusion, and bottom Portrait is midjourney @wind cave

[wind cave]

But what is the prompt?

[sacred canopy]

The bottom one I'm not sure but the to is "an portrait of a zombiefid women just "add about 5 artists

[drifting trail]

https://chromeenterprise.google/os/chromeosflex/

Anyone tried this?

[desert orbit]

I thought it's dead

[old osprey]

@restive root where's the deckard copium?

I know you're hiding it here

[restive root]

EXTREME deckard copium

[burnt jackal]

I don't understand NFTs. there is no scarcity with them at all. all i have to do is use curves in photoshop and change the image silghty?

[restive root]

[old osprey]

[azure eagle]

Hi @lofty bolt or @restive root I know you are very busy, but I would quickly like to discuss something very important. Please DM me if you have the time (5 minutes max). Thank you

[restive root]

Can dm me at any time

Ill read once i have time

[azure eagle]

Alright ty

[lofty bolt]

I turned off DMs

my discord was going ping ping ping ping

[somber mica]

that's crypto currency for you.

[burnt jackal]

it boggles my mind @somber mica

[pastel pendant]

I would like to know why in so many AI when I ask for something of startrek I receive a image like action toys

[loud sail]

Lots of pictures of star trek toys in the data

Add 'in the original series' or 'next generation' to Star Trek and see if that swings your results

[red loom]

FINALLYIAMHEREYES!

[little sentinel]

Its 12pm

Nice

Night now all, Have a lovely day and morning now

enjoy the bot

[fast oak]

Tops stable bottems dalle

[shell dragon]

he is even using the force to lift the cup

[undone nexus]

/faq

[drifting swift]

!dream -h

[muted relic]

!dream -h

[regal reef]

I have made a (quite small) french-speaking IA community-- it was orignally for MJ, but we quickly expanded to others AIs. I'm not sure if it's fine to talk about this on SD's server, so i'm doing it in off-topic

[ancient arch]

H

[manic rover]

The filters man..

[loud sail]

The correct term is "portrait"

[elder wave]

Isn't it headshot without the space

[fast oak]

omg

[honest nexus]

hi

I am new here

[fast oak]

me too

[honest nexus]

nice to meet you

[fast oak]

you too

[honest nexus]

when can I start generating images?

[mortal notch]

How do i use sd bot in my server

[honest nexus]

yeah it went i meant to say.

sorry for my bad English

[sterile dock]

"We would be honoured if you joined us"

[fast oak]

my buddy's got a prompt engineering tournament starting

https://www.twitch.tv/stevenalejandrovelez

just a few more slots open! join soon!

all you gotta do is write in chat you wanna join

https://tenor.com/view/max-maxim-rick-roll-glasses-off-glasses-on-gif-23597081

stable diffusion the book

[dim robin]

ooh what's that?

[desert flower]

little prompt generator tool I'm working on

getting the core features in

then I'll add a bunch of stuff like artist styles, mediums, things like "subsurface scattering" "volumetric lighting" and other tags like that

[bleak jasper]

@desert flowerHow can I download it?

[desert flower]

i'm still working on it

It'd go a lot faster if I could get help converting the "Artist Examples" google doc into a format I can use in the app

[bleak jasper]

👍

[desert flower]

If anyone is willing to help with curating example data... that'd be pretty dope...

[silver cliff]

I can help. Can it be done on mobile. On the road the next couple days.

[left iron]

Can anyone recommend a cheaper cloud GPU service that has an API I can use to spin-up/spin-down instances programmatically? I'm making a text-to-image bot for my friends and I tried Lambda at first because it was cheapest before realizing there isn't API control 🥲

[unkempt thorn]

/faq

[devout bison]

Ah, cool. I'm doing something sorta similar for SD only, but written in python so it's hopefully easy to hook up to SD directly in the future: https://github.com/MiddleTwin/ProPan

Ping me when you get to a point where you're happy with other people looking at the code, I might like to borrow some of your prompt generation UI...

[neon valley]

I have 50 dall e credits expiring soon

Suggestions what to do?

[fast oak]

give them to someone as a gift

[steady nimbus]

I just got an invite and accepted, how do I use this?

[rugged agate]

You have to wait until your wave gets access. Hopefully that's later today. Keep an eye on #📣｜announcements.

[late dagger]

making a ui for locally running latent and stable diffusion

[latent rock]

Failing to make a transparent duck sculpture
https://discordapp.com/channels/1002292111942635562/1005627368985067550/1006556853863452672

[latent dust]

/faq

[lean crescent]

I think its cool how this is basically some text and values inputs but it unlocks so much power LOL .. the Key master...

[distant ravine]

why you're using windows terminal instead of cmd?

[late dagger]

i usually use cmd but forgot to add it to my context menu

[lost shale]

it's all about visual studio code 👨‍💻 🤓

https://tenor.com/view/mega64-hacking-in-progress-hacker-hacked-hd-gif-16542434

[little sentinel]

Weeeeeeeee

I'm so tired

you guys enjoy the lovely Monday morning

take care now

and I'll rest

[sacred tendon]

https://twitter.com/GarfieldMovie/status/1556712484131573760?s=20&t=Y6qrk8EEmfBGi0D3qYkqFw

Garfield Movie (@GarfieldMovie)

#InternationalCatDay on a Monday? 🙄

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Twitter · Aug 8, 2022, 6:42 PM

[gloomy shoal]

Test

[lament acorn]

Test

[nova idol]

test~

[primal anchor]

Is the stable diffusion github repo related to this project or is it a different thing? Because it's still one of the top results when you Google "Stable Diffusion" but I assumed that the weights and architecture of what we're testing here weren't released yet

[glossy wave]

The README in that repo hasn't been updated from latent diffusion, so that's what's linked in there for weights etc. But it is the WIP codebase for the model.

If you want to see what inference code will look like, this script of mine is probably still the best bet, it uses k-diffusion to do CLIP guided latent-diffusion, which will be able to swap in the stable diffusion model fairly easily when it's available. This codebase (and k-diffusion) supports both the OpenAI diffusion models (like disco uses) and CompVis models (latent/stable)
https://github.com/NightmareAI/k-diffusion/blob/master/predict.py#L189

admittedly the code is a bit of a mess but it's the best thing I have to point at

[primal anchor]

Huh, thanks a lot for the answer and pointers; and don't worry about the cleanness of the code, I'm just happy to learn some more about it

[glossy wave]

The reason that repo has the latent diffusion README is that for all intents and purposes this is latent diffusion 2.0, brought to you by Stability

so anything you know/learn about LD you can expect to translate fairly well

[gilded plank]

#1005596415755554866

[quartz fog]

https://twitter.com/inigma_a/status/1557088050336993282?s=20&t=1iiAZdXAIX6QLVd2brEU0A

AInigma (@inigma_a)

Too late to explore the earth
Too early to explore the universe
Just in time for Ai generated Renaissance Burger Lady

https://t.co/hveZt8Qs9N

1/1
Renaissance Burger Lady
1.0 #ETH reserved auction

#aiart #stableDifusion #ainft #NFTs #knownorigin

Twitter · Aug 9, 2022, 7:34 PM

[rugged mortar]

Please stop this Redditor from selling scalped stable diffusion handles online theIr discord handle is mister yuh#4385 their Reddit handle is u/Concept_Sir
I naively purchased one from them not knowing that a stable diffusion invite isn’t “merchandise” for someone to resell.

[red canyon]

who up stabilizing they diffusion

[patent roost]

Why everyone thinks I'm a woman? because what because the guy can not have hello kitty on the profile?

[fast oak]

i feel like im gonna have a heart attack rn 😦

[true flame]

b-but no one here even mentioned that

[patent roost]

Ok

[hazy scarab]

Does anyone know why my photos don’t show up in my mentions anymore? No problem before but now no mentions when I do a prompt. Have to scroll through the thread.

[glass flower]

ai music

[wispy night]

!dream "open book spell in a library, octane render, volumetric light, trending on Artstation, by James Jean, by Brian Froud, hyper realistic, super detailed book" -W 1024 -n 9

[ember ivy]

me fr

[fast oak]

last years artwork

this one's recent

[coarse elk]

can i ask a quick question, how can i get a discord server banned?, its called GenUSA its a really bad place and i want to report it

[hybrid heron]

how long does it take to run locally on your gfx card? i wonder if it's fast enough like online if you have something like RTX 6000 24gb

[willow plank]

@modest sandal Didn’t expect to see you as a mod, I was watching your videos earlier lol

[modest sandal]

Lol I wasn't expecting it either. It's wild. Glad to hear! Any suggestions for future videos/improvements?

[willow plank]

Maybe a video on why you should use this AI over some others, like the plus sides to it

[late dagger]

i can't test stable diffusion cause it hasn't released yet, based on another ai i was expecting it to take 5 seconds per image at most (with optimal parameters) but someone at stability told me it takes longer on their A6000 so i have no idea

[hybrid heron]

Thx man damn it's pretty good

I have rtx 6000 not a6000 but would love to know more. Might even make sense to invest rtx 8000 or the A version of it.

[olive vale]

Test

[fast oak]

Any adequate text generation models that are easy to use

[next sundial]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1005627432738500669/1006881431701704764/A_realistic_image_of_a_very_sad_woman_holding_a_rooster_in_her_hands_ultra_high_detail_8k._-n_9_-i_-S_1048379242_ts-1660129639_idx-1.png

[next sundial]

A realistic photo of a very sad woman holding a rooster....

[upbeat plinth]

is she sad because she is eating it

[deft cobalt]

Hi can you guys help me

How do I change my download folder for discord when i Download the images

[abstract stirrup]

please dear fellow SD people can we stop making prompts about Elon Musk?
I makes me literally sick to see that face repeated -n times a day!

[orchid frigate]

lol #📣｜announcements message at first i thought they made a site for us to use SD like dall-e

[bitter harness]

Space-suit suggestion for Elon Musk 😄

The back-pack is designed to place most of the weight on the shoulders.

Breather-tube enters close to nose area to bring oxygen-rich air.

This suit is for extra-vehicular activities, which contrasts with the current suits which are for inside the vehicle.

The lithium battery, which is highly flammable, goes in a handbag instead of being in the helmet area - obviously...

[unique ginkgo]

/faq

/brh

/faq cfg

ah

[somber mica]

Something I drew today for now, tomorrow should have my motives checked imo.

[vagrant plume]

Stability is overrated. I'm waiting for Unstable Diffusion.

[shell dragon]

unstable osmosis

[unkempt forge]

the amount of time i'Ve spent looking at this discord is out of this world

[fast oak]

https://take.quiz-maker.com/Q0041DO7G go ahead, take the fun quiz

made it in 15 minutes, so far 97 people took the test from and the average score is 11/20. Which means that its 50/50

not a single person got 20/20 lol

just shows you how hard it is to spot whether an image is A.I or not

almost all the images were made by stable

[unkempt forge]

6/20

[paper cloak]

13/20

[tough field]

12/20

[hollow burrow]

https://youtu.be/a8K6QUPmv8Q

A couple of years ago we laughed but here we are

[kindred birch]

what's wrong with it? anyway here's a step-by-step guide, you gotta use Developer mode and fill out a form https://www.alphr.com/report-discord-server/

[blazing trail]

apparently Will Smith played Will Smith in fresh prince, but will smith the prince is fully fictional, because will smith made will smith be william smith, while he's actually Willard Smith, so Willard Smith plays William Smith, in the show.

[red otter]

well

how bout that

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-gif-22232846

[proper crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/touching-grass-touch-gif-21219969

[limpid egret]

grass is hoax

[fiery flume]

I win

[whole ridge]

hahahhahahhhahahaha

[modern plover]

damn the boys is so good

[red otter]

this is how youd like text to video ai to work, asking the ai to recreate a scene you give it like this one, but do it in a new style.

[sick violet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/833487579156447235/1006866214930354237/coloride.webm

[hallow shadow]

You exceeded the 1 megapixel limit 😆

[red otter]

after watching that twitter video they posted in announcements I think it might really get to that point. like i dont know how it works too well but that was pretty cool

[icy haven]

Generating only works in #1005512133070557194 channels

1-50

[thin knoll]

yah i was dumbass reading something here and prompting by mistake sorry/ removd

[lament zealot]

!invite

How do I invite someone?

[broken merlin]

I don't think you're supposed to invite people. 😋

[lament zealot]

Fair enough

[fast oak]

Why is trying to make or run an ai on windows so hard

[ornate hemlock]

Join linux

[ornate hemlock]

https://discord.gg/7P9VbSux

[modest sandal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45Ps0vV76J0

made stable diffusion visualize the lyrics of As It Was

paints a very different picture of the song 😂

[limpid egret]

[lone pike]

https://loreshapers.net/ai-and-creativity-a-game-designers-perspective

[manic rover]

i wonder if Harmonai will or could even have a vocal synth ai, something like SynthV

[cosmic plume]

I would love that, especially since I love voice being incorporated in instrumentals

[fast oak]

Can you suggest me some voice cloning/speech synthesis models whose quality and emotion compares to that of TacoTron2

[fast oak]

Hi to everyone, I would like to ask if you know any AI that I can use for 2D Image to 3D Mesh Object. "The only one I know is Pifuhd demo, but it does not always give good results.
Your recommendations will be well -come, thank you

[candid sapphire]

Which car company is the one that makes Escalades?

[primal smelt]

Cadillac

[candid sapphire]

Thanks

[fast oak]

Here's an XBOX Pass for 2 months if someone wants:
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[radiant sable]

Just had an idea for a take on the whole recent progression of AI, what do you think?

The idea is that, since the dawn of computers, very simplified, they have acted as amplifiers of our left brains (rational, calculating), but now they will start to fill the same function for things more associated with right brain (creativity). Perhaps this can have a balancing effect on modern society, which has in my opinion, under-valued those aspects.

[oak pasture]

Why would it only have been acting on the left brain? Seems a quick judgment (also maybe read up on the new stuff kinda refuting the hole left brain right brain stuff maybe)

[astral pasture]

!dream "chubby Ethan Van Sciver with a bald head and grey trimmed beard with a pointy nose as the first horseman of the apocalypse riding a strong big black stallion, horse is up on its hind legs, beautiful artwork by artgerm and rutkowski, breathtaking, beautifully lit, dramatic, full view " -H 704 -n 9 -i

[fast oak]

https://youtu.be/TA7esbxbuLI

[fast oak]

n o

[oak pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

[sour zenith]

B... but the AI steals the work of other people!

Meanwhile the entire film industry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R5r4shLDbs

[radiant sable]

Regarding the Tech Crunch article talking about more potentially problematic aspects of this technology, I don't quite understand the focus on ability to generate porn as an issue. I mean the internet is full of actual porn with real people, which in many cases may have negative externalities. People being taken advantage of or having their lives ruined by deciding to be involved with porn and then being written off by the rest of society. Where as generated content would not have this issue. What am I missing?

Why does the general census seem to be that real online porn is fine but generated by a neural network is not? Seems very weird.

As for the other aspects like producing propaganda or misinformation, I can at least see the argument, but to me it just seems inevitable because the technological possibility exists whether we like it or not. I would also tend to believe that it will rather force everyone to become more critical in believing in the content they consume.

[sour zenith]

real online porn is not quite acceptable here on Discord either, unless in designated nsfw channels

[radiant sable]

I understand the policy that Stable Diffusion is having, as this Discord may quickly spiral to just being a porn generation server.

And they understandably don't want that association.

I just mean the broader talk in media about it being ethically problematic somehow.

[rugged agate]

Probably because people will use it to make fake celebrity p*rn. As if that hasn't already existed since the invention of Photoshop. Not to mention deepfakes.

[radiant sable]

Wouldn't the ubiquity of it eventually just make that not a big deal. Everyone will just assume or understand that it's generated?

[rugged agate]

That's what I believe in as well. SD being open source will help spread awareness about the potential of these kind of fake images.

In the hands of just a small few, the spread of misinformation is actually easier and much more dangerous because the general public won't be as savvy to it.

[radiant sable]

Maybe there could be a way using cryptography to validate that an image or video was produced using an actual camera?

[sour zenith]

I agree that AI-generated porn should generally be much less problematic than real porn. People would be able to generate all sorts of explicit imagery, including illegal porn as well, which wouldn't result in the abuse of real people involved in it.

[radiant sable]

That could be a hard pill for many people to swallow though.

[rugged agate]

That's a more nuanced topic I think, but generally I agree. AI-generated anything involving real people is a lot safer because, well... real people aren't involved.

[radiant sable]

Yeah.

More generally, I do think there is of course cause for concern about AI from a wider perspective, and progressing with caution seems warranted. Just don't quite agree with the problematizing of image generating models.

[rugged agate]

Still, I don't really agree with those kind of generations, but I also don't think it makes sense to shut down or not release a model like this because of the actions of a very small minority.

[sour zenith]

Places like 4chan will inevitably exist as long as there are some humans connected to the internet.

[rugged agate]

Anything good can unfortunately be used for something bad as well. People can't seriously expect to move forward by damning every good invention because it has the potential to be used for something problematic.

[radiant sable]

There could be exceptions though, things that we reeaally want to minimize the probability of democratizing.

[sour zenith]

I guess as soon as everyone can host the model on their own hardware, there will be tons of weird porn generated. As long as it's not used to do any harm, I see nothing wrong with it.

[radiant sable]

Like the ability the easily design viruses and so on. Things where the disproportionate negative impact of a very small number of bad actors could have huge consequences

[rugged agate]

Well, there are already rules and laws against a lot of these things. If someone generates you-know-what images with an AI that are indistinguishable from real life, they're just asking for trouble. And I personally think the charge for possessing those kind of images, whether AI generated or not, should remain the same as it's always been.

[radiant sable]

To me there could be an empirical nuance there though with respect to illegal, stuff involving children, or violent rapey stuff etc. I can sympathize with both sides of the argument there, those who mean that for example violent video games and media is an outlet for certain urges, thus reducing the probability for people to do bad things in real life. I could also see the argument were people claim that some are inspired by these things and thus ends up having the opposite effect.

Probably both are true to some extent, but as to empirically which effect is stronger, I have no idea.

[fast oak]

Has anyone here seen Light & Magic documentary series on Disney+?

[rugged agate]

Nope. What's it about?

[fast oak]

It's about ILM, the first visual effects studio.

(First because in all the other cases, the film studios had in-house special effects teams, but they were about to be shut down in the 70s)

[rugged agate]

Sounds interesting, maybe I'll watch it. I just finished my Breaking Bad rewatch yesterday so I have nothing to watch right now...

[fast oak]

It is really really good.

I have also rewatched Breaking Bad with my dad 🙂

his first time, my 2nd time

next we have to do Better call saul

[rugged agate]

My mom actually watched it for the first time recently as well. She's watching BCS now. 😄

[fast oak]

But seriously, Light & Magic is an incredible documentary, you really get a feel for the people there.

[rugged agate]

Can't recommend BCS enough, it's really good.

[fast oak]

Legends in their own right. People without which there would probably not be any film-level computer graphics until much later.

[lusty summit]

What's more, surface layer problematic elements aside, we're unlikely to be able to be able to develop groundtruthed understandings of LLMs/ELMs and associated tech, or the directions it could develop without open source implementations and widespread access. Otherwise we're stuck with the alternative of tenured and wannabe philosophers pontificating endlessly down resource sink rabbit holes with high verbal fluency verbiage and low levels of domain knowledge fueled insight.

[fast oak]

BCS? 🙂 Whats that

[rugged agate]

Better Call Saul. 😎

[fast oak]

OHhhh I have seen the first seasons, before the big break.

It's amazing when you see how Fring builds the big facility, with those german engineers 😄

Just haven't seen the last season at all.

[rugged agate]

It's about to end next week though. Last episode on the 15th 😔

[fast oak]

Oh

All good thing come to an end

Bob Odenkirk did very well in that movie though. I forgot the name.

[rugged agate]

Things really pick up in the last season

[rugged agate]

I think it was called Nobody. I haven't seen it yet

[fast oak]

yup

great movie

[rugged agate]

The description for that movie makes it sound like John Wick

[fast oak]

Well, kinda. Yes.

but totally different vibe

[rugged agate]

If it's streaming somewhere, I'll give it a watch

[fast oak]

Man there's a lot of elitism going around on the intarwebs, from folks, about AI art. They will say things like:
AI "art"

[sour zenith]

AFAIK it has already been established that the influence of video games is rather negligible in mentally sound individuals. Of course, statistically speaking, there is always a possibility of someone being "inspired" or "triggered" by a video game, although - most likely - not without other complicating factors, such as their mental health problems. The games that I find more likely to be harmful in real life are those capable of inducing some form of addiction (akin to drugs), but not sure if that's what your argument was about. I guess, being able to bring an entire weapon store to your classroom is a much bigger problem one particular country needs to tackle first.

[fast oak]

I have from 2000 done 3d graphics modeling, uvw unwrapping, rigging, I know the hard work it takes to do something from scratch. I won't be spoken down to by folks like this. 3dsmax, modo, terragen, world machine, etc.
The most hilarious thing is, some photographer had the nerve to say this about AI art. I mean... photography? You set up a scene and you click a few buttons? I have the utmost respect to great camera cinematography (Kubrick etc), so certainly knowing how to use a lens and the light of a scene is impressive. But when you are this "dickish" about something that is VERY similar (AI art), you should perhaps try to keep a low profile if you're a photographer... my 2 cents

[heavy canyon]

Is it safe for me to buy a used open box rtx 3090 from ebay? I mean, whats the worst that can happen?

[radiant sable]

Yes, I have heard similar things before but have not looked into it deeply.

But I guess as with all research in this domain it must be extremely difficult to untangle all the interacting variables.

[fast oak]

If the seller has a high score, it should be fine.

feel free to hack this webhook https://discord.com/api/webhooks/1007791218576588841/Cx932Kwzo4r-wGehZLkekNrFc1U1UTB8e9SLPX6jdFGNbqsJyeIPaeyO3zI70ymU8Yk6

[radiant sable]

I've also become much more skeptical in general after the replication crisis became a thing.

[fast oak]

and feel free to use https://discohook.org/

[radiant sable]

I also agree that intentionally addictive gaming products with micro-transactions are an issue, which can of course be amplified by AI.

I was doing some work with Peltarion, an AI company here in sweden, but that stopped because they were bought by King the company behind Candy Crush

[sour zenith]

@radiant sable I'm reading about it now, there are some studies suggesting that violent video games do influence kids, so I guess maybe the age ratings do make sense.

[radiant sable]

That made me die a little inside 🙂

[sour zenith]

so it's difficult to tell, but adults should probably be fine

[radiant sable]

I can see that, I remember playing goldeneye as a kid, thinking the sniper rifle was so awesome. Can definitely imagine some people being triggered in some way.

Setting them on a path..

[sour zenith]

I guess it depends on many factors, the level/realism of violence etc.

[radiant sable]

Yeah, just imagine truely photorealistic VR with physics simulated in a way almost indistinguishable from reality...

[fast oak]

Ah I'm in Norway

[sour zenith]

I can imagine kids getting traumatized by a game like Manhunt, for example

[radiant sable]

Nice! I enjoyed watching the show Exit a while back. Not really highlighting the best parts of Norway, but great show 😄

[fast oak]

I played Doom as a 9 year old in 1993.

and the sequal is banned in my country

[fast oak]

haven't watched it 🙂

[radiant sable]

Traumatized is probably better than inspired though 😄

[sour zenith]

I guess :)

fewer individuals are affected this way

[fast oak]

As long as the trauma is virtual and not corporeal. Like a game. It's not really anything meaningful to write about in any psyche study.

[radiant sable]

I was traumatized by the blue book in Myst 😄

[fast oak]

It's just something for conservatives to write about, to make excuses for the consequences of their inhumane policies.

[radiant sable]

For some reason the guy in the book freaked me out so much. I was genuinely terrified of that game.

[radiant sable]

I used to be very anti-conservative, now I started to see that most political leanings have valid points. I just wish people would argue specific issues independently of each other, rather than lumping everything into packages and aligning into tribes

[fast oak]

Btw, soon you Swedes will be our compatriots and allies. 🙂 Finally.

[sour zenith]

and Finns too, hopefully. Finn-ally!

[fast oak]

Finland is a fucking fortress. 😄

fortress of decency

[radiant sable]

haha

[fast oak]

😄

misclick

[fast oak]

Yes you are right, tribalism is not great. But in general, conservatism is about not changing things even when we're well past the point of needing to change things. So by default, it's a dumb default position to hold. It's just "tradition this" "values that"

[radiant sable]

I see what you mean, but I have shifted to view it as a balancing act instead.

If we are too progressive, we may not carry over the learnings of past experience

[fast oak]

That is prudent and pragmatic, I am also moving into that direction. Because of my many years on this planet.

[radiant sable]

If we are too conservative, we'll be unable to adapt to a changing situation

[fast oak]

I will endeavour to get the best results possible, that are ACTUALLY possible. Pragmatic. ....BUT deep down, I know it's still fucking dumb.

It's just "well, we did this when we were young, and that was enough blabla"

Well, it's not enough any more grandpa.

[radiant sable]

Haha

I do find that to be a problem with the human condition though, how quickly we adapt to a new baseline.

It makes sense from an evolutionary perspective, but it can suck from an experiential perspective.

[fast oak]

Yes, it seems the middle ground of our demographics adapt to a new baseline, even if that baseline is terminal.

"we can just continue doing this blabla it's fine blabla"

they only move when shook by calamitous events.

[sour zenith]

the advent of AI may herald the next "industrial revolution", and it may eventually replace a lot of concept artists - now that sounds like a huge change

[fast oak]

the bottom demographic are all mentally geared towards keeping things as they are, whichever generation they are in.. 1970s, 1980s it's all the fucking same.
the upper demographic are dreamers, utopians.

[radiant sable]

I just hope it will make the world a little more psychedelic

[sour zenith]

there's a lot of generic content still being created by human artists, which will eventually be mass-producible by a computer, e.g. trading cards on Steam etc.

I reckon the greatest human artists will remain irreplaceable for some time, though

[radiant sable]

There is the aspect of the catalyst for any art created by a human a lot of times being driven by their life experience and emotions though.

Which for me, does mean something.

Their subjective conscious experience somehow weighs in for me.

[fast oak]

The bottom demographic are obviously ignorant.... but are probably going to die in retirement with their opinions unchanged, even as rivers in Germany are drying up, and farmlands are no longer producing produce.
The middle demographics are perplexed and ignorant, as long as they are contented with life, but they can be nudged in either direction with enough fear.
The upper demographics are utopian but also more malleable, because they are so young. They're too young to know better, but some of them can be influenced by facts.

[sour zenith]

I mean, you still need to iterate and pour your own creativity into the prompts

[radiant sable]

For example, if someone has really suffered, in a similar way that you have, and you listen to a song by this artist, or see a painting. The knowledge that it came from a human experience, can cause it to resonate at a deeper level for me.

[radiant sable]

Sure, the selection mechanism is still human.

[fast oak]

I just don't understand how a photographer could be so cocky about AI art. They're doing pretty much the same.

[radiant sable]

That's true, there is some overlap there.

[sour zenith]

I agree, the context matters too. The same thing can be said about AI art, though, since a human being is responsible for the prompts. Perhaps new future models will be able to capture the subtlety hidden in the one's word choice etc.

[fast oak]

Did you see my quote of the guy @radiant sable?

[radiant sable]

Yeah, I don't disagree at all. I think this is a new thing and they are both valid.

[fast oak]

Sure it’s art. But it’s the art of the people who wrote the program. It’s absolutely not the art of people who spoke a few words. They didn’t create anything.

they are not composing or creating original images or products. The man who built the factory didn’t invent or produce the widget any more than the person who crafted the hammer built the house. The man who made the camera didn’t compose the shot that awed people. The creators of photoshop didn’t make the digital art it’s tool made possible. The users of AI art programs literally type a few words. This can be confused with creating art no more than heating up a TV dinner in the microwave can be confused with cooking.

it means shit. A quick internet search will tell you how to exploit the most out of the prompts. I did it. There is ZERO creative power in mumbling a few words to get a result you had absolutely nothing to do with. Midjourey is art. It’s just not your art. You didn’t “create” shit.

This isn’t a tool. It’s a cheat. And it’s not your work. Anyone who claims he’s an artist by typing in a few prompts to get a result isn’t an artist, he’s a fraud.

[radiant sable]

You mean that a photographer didn't create earth.

Maybe god is a photographer?

[fast oak]

Pffft. This was his "contribution" "Vienna white ballroom waltz a dance between intricate fractal chaos and smooth Euclidean order, ornate, ethereal, cinematic, artstation, hyper detailed, weta digital, ray trace, beautifully pastel light, photorealistic, fibonacci, pi, cgi, 8k post-production, symmetric, masterpiece, realistic, highly detailed" Anyone with half a brain can copy the thousands of examples out there, change a few words and come with something amazing. They had zero to do with creating. Here's the result of his nothing but words. Absolutely nothing to do with his artistic ability.

It's just venomous venom pouring out of this guy.

[radiant sable]

But I accept your point, someone exploring an AI model with prompts is analogous to a photographer exploring the world with a camera.

[fast oak]

Yeah, and this guys who is throwing shade at all of us, is himself a hobby photographer.

[radiant sable]

I do think though that as we get more and more fine-grained control over this process there will be more and more merit attributed to generations.

Because now maybe it is still a little too random for me to really be impressed by a particular "generator"

[sour zenith]

well, there's also the process of cherry-picking too

[radiant sable]

I am still most impressed by the technology, and just the fact that it works at all.

The fact that using gradient descent produces such incredible results.

one could imagine a counter-factual world were it just results in ending up in shitty local maximums.

[sour zenith]

frankly, it's more like commissioning a team of obedient artists to do some work for you based on your own creative input, so yeah, you're being sort-of an idea guy, but it's up to you what you'll deem worth saving etc.

the choice of words is also not necessarily that easy to achieve, it may require quite a few iterations

[radiant sable]

I just can't wait to get an AI band member to jam with.

[radiant sable]

Yes, the set of possible interesting mappings from prompt to image is also huge I feel, so there is room for many many different models too.

[sour zenith]

I think that some people may get a bit salty simply because they feel that the AI will make them obsolete

[radiant sable]

So maybe we'll have people who are expert in getting what they want out of a wide array of different models.

[radiant sable]

Which is totally understandable

If you spend your whole life perfecting technique, and then it is suddenly made obsolete..

[sour zenith]

yeah

[fast oak]

I responded to the photo guy with this:
Ai art is basically like photography. When I was a younger cocky 3d artist in 2000, who did everything myself, and taught myself everything: modeling, texturing, rigging, rendering... I always looked down on photographers with a kind of condescension. Because "all they did, after all, was clicking a few buttons, while I was actually doing the hard work to build everything from scratch. Who are these lazy photographers?"
But that is 15 years ago, I was wrong. I was young, and cocky. Photography is its own artform. Cinematography of Stanley Kubrick is one of the pinnacles of photo use in cinema form.
Even if you aren't able to see it just yet, AI prompt-crafting will be its own artform. And eventually, it will unleash the creative potential of all humanity.

[radiant sable]

Yeah, I agree.

[fast oak]

I just got this cocky-vibe from him, that I felt he didn't deserve.

So I had to jack him down a few notches.

[radiant sable]

Just don't jack him too hard!

It could get messy.

[sour zenith]

there are many flavors of complaints about generative AI models, at least that guy considers it Midjourey's art

there are people who would say it's not even that, the art is just stolen from the artists

etc.

[fast oak]

yep

[sour zenith]

it opens a can of worms though, whether copyright makes sense at all

[dire mountain]

Ironically, with the advent of prosumer DSLR cameras, photographers are hurting now too.

[sour zenith]

everyone would agree that just copying a picture from google images is considered copyright infringement

(unless the picture is CC0 etc.)

[fast oak]

smk yep we are living in the Wild West of AI.

[sour zenith]

if you were able to memorize a picture and then recreate it perfectly, then it's the same deal

but if your brain modifies it, then it becomes a mere "inspiration" at some point

now the question is, where is that point :P

[fast oak]

smk yep we are living in the Wild West of AI.

[sour zenith]

I mean, it doesn't even necessarily need to be related to AI

the issue surfaces even in human art

[radiant sable]

Yeah, it just becomes completely untenable with AI

Amplified.

[sour zenith]

what's the difference between taking inspiration, paying homage, and blatantly plagiarizing someone else's work

[radiant sable]

I have long been going back and fourth with my thinking about copy right and patenting.

There is the obvious issue of incentive.

But on the other hand the obvious benefit of abundance.

[sour zenith]

yeah, I guess it depends on the legal definition of plagiarism in your country

e.g. "you can have at most x the same notes from someone else's song"

[fast oak]

All this boils down to is how our societies are run, how people get the necessities to live.
Beyond that, there is sheer greed.

[radiant sable]

Hopefully we will get a shift in the future from focusing on "this artist is a genius" and really valuing this kind of ranking of individual achievement.

[fast oak]

Population growth drops drastically as soon as a society gets a decent education, and standards of living go up. This might seem counter-intuitive, but it's the fact.

[radiant sable]

To focusing on, the universe is amazing, look at what is possible regardless of which individual happened to uncover it.

[fast oak]

Swedish academic Hans Rosling (RIP) has a great video about this.

Which sort of makes you think that perhaps reducing population growth on its own isn't the solution. Improving people's societies and lives where they live will do just as well.

[radiant sable]

Yeah, he was a kind of OG Steve Pinker with a lot of his highlighting different world trends.

[fast oak]

Countries with a poor education and economy, will normally have a family structure of 5+ kids. Once those same societies transition into greater education and economy, they move towards fewer and fewer children.

United Nations statistics

[radiant sable]

It makes sense, people have more to live for and have more ability to pursue what they are interested in. Having a lot of kids can be an obstacle to that.

But everyone can't go below replacement level birthrates 🙂

[fast oak]

Like Japan? 😄

[sour zenith]

although, it's interesting that some of us aren't intrinsically eager to have children

[fast oak]

Japan will just make elder-care robots. In fact, a friend of mine professor in University of Malaga, is working on just that, with his wife. And I know lots of people in Japan are working on it too. 😄

It's a horrible solution, I know.

[radiant sable]

Most are eager to have sex though, which I guess is a proxy for having children from evolutions perspective

[sour zenith]

yeah, I guess kids are just a "happy" accident

[fast oak]

This is it.