#💬｜general-chat

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radiant tusk
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Anyone else tried flux gym to train loras before?
Ai fllorence captioning keeps getting stuck for me

copper crystal
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i use bmaltais kohya ui, and taggui projects to train flux loras

lucid bobcat
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does anyone know a comfyui node that takes a 1-d tensor as input (or a list of numbers) and plots them as a graph?

fervent thunder
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MTB nodes

lucid bobcat
# fervent thunder MTB nodes

I don't mean to make a plot as an output image (I would just use matplotlib for that). I mean having a plot for visualization in my workflow.

fervent thunder
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oh I see, I have never heard of that

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preview image node?

modern moss
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How does checkpoints work

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Can I use it with another model?

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Like lora

atomic mortar
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The checkpoint is the model

modern moss
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Ah

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So they train the base model even further?

atomic mortar
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But technically yes, some people have merged models

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Finetuned, trained etc

modern moss
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So you can’t run two models at once

atomic mortar
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No but if its a merged / you merge them its basically the same thing

radiant tusk
copper crystal
steep trench
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Good Morning Everyone

calm hearth
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ok guys i downloaded flux and got everything working and gen'd pics. and theyre really good. buuuuuuuuuuuut theyre not that much better than dreamshaperXL or epicRealismPureEvolution. the quality is better but it becomes a wash basically as i put it into kling and degrades the quality and including the time it took to gen im thinking of switching back. what do you think? am i making a noob move?

heavy crypt
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how many steps are people using for renders? i see 20-40ish being normal but some of the high renders on Civitai being upwards of 1200steps (on my comp i think that is like turning it off for 5 days)

rose swift
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just want to ask, is it possible to install hallouAI or other video AI for forge/automatic1111?

abstract quarry
marble shadow
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Guys, I have a question: what image to video method would you use to animate a boy's mouth for a few lines?

fervent thunder
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Flux is too good
I also disliked it at first, you can see old comments of me saying I was gonna stay on SDXL lol
but Flux is just such an aesthetic model with the way it does colours, shadows, lighting, blur and particle effects

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and various people have actually managed to pull off putting CFG back into the model, which I thought would not be possible

lucid bobcat
fervent thunder
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if you are using a technique that works via the negative then CFG is required though

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its not always optional

lucid bobcat
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Yea negative prompting is the exception

fervent thunder
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at least with the current models I do also think you get a bit more quality out of them by running them with CFG rather than without

radiant tusk
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Has anyone used segment anything video version

haughty finch
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Hello Please Read.
I would like you to imagine getting home from school and only seeing rubble not knowing where the street is that leads to your house is it's all just rubble. I would like you to imagine dead kids all over the streets from starvation and diseases from not drinking pure water. I would like you to imagine sleeping at night hearing explosions at the distance getting woken up. I would like you to imagine a finding out that your home got Obliterated by a rocket. I would like you to imagine how that feels. Because that's not imagination. That is a reality there are mass genocides happening right now in so many places. It is really tragic, but we can do something to help these people. We can:
Donate to charities (From a trusted source) that give food and clean water to people in need in these places.
Spread information about what's happening in these places.
Sign petitions or take part in protests to cease fire in these places.
Stop buying products from producers that support this genocide.
If you can't do any of these things you can tell someone who can do these things.
But I hope I could've made a difference.
Free Palestine.
Cease fire.

quartz siren
quartz siren
gentle prairie
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what's the best way to create video on auto1111? I only found animatediff

slender vault
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hunyan but on comfy

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idk if hunyan has a1111 implementation

quartz siren
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yeah hunyuan is very slow so be warned(25mins on 4090), but it is best quality for sure, comparable with stuff like sora now.

ltxv is lower quality considerably but its really fast, can be as low as 6sec for a 5sec video on 4090.

I believe swarmui and comfyui support them.

copper crystal
# haughty finch Hello Please Read. I would like you to imagine getting home from school and only...

  • charities are often fraudulent endeavors and the money isn't actually going where you intend it too.

  • Information can commonly be skewed by biases.

  • petitions are just nonsense tbh. Often are just bait for fraudulent charities

  • boycotts dont work and you're likely buying many still

  • telling people to care about other people's problems that have no correlation to their own personal issues in their region is a pretentious thing to do.

  • palestine needs to be freed from hamas first. because you know, terrorism.

That is all.

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I have nothing against muslims like i have nothing against other religious people. Christian sects like Westboro baptist i think are not genuine and greasy people who thrive on hate. I feel even more strongly about Sunni sect of muslims. They're not true muslims like WB are not true baptists.

slender vault
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sir this is a stable diffusion discord politics shouldnt even be discussed 🙄

copper crystal
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didn't see you speaking up to the other one. someone had to do a reality smash on it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

trim magnet
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those mfs killed our aid workers and no one has ever been arrested because of it, netanyahu is a war criminal and if he ever steps foot in our country hes gettin arrested

lucid bobcat
modern pagoda
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Same bs that got internet archive targetted. 🤦‍♂️

lucid bobcat
modern pagoda
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No they got hacked as a protest move. Youre referring to the pile dataset used for training LLMs. Pretty sure. But few months ago Internet Archive got targeted & had all users credentials exposed. Like in civil protest.

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Yeah the Pile case was over GPTs & stuff being trained on public data, & some non public data. I have the stats somewhere but id have to dig. A lot of it was legal public content. The main thing was it was scraped (illegal aspect of it) from a premium 3rd party hosting service of books & stuff like that. Some user, scraped that entire set of data. & thats how The Pile got it. Think all LLMs used some version of it. Atleast GPT text based ones afaik. Harder to get books. Which lead to the lawsuit. Pretty sure even nvidia used the datasets. 🤷‍♂️

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Think the service closed doors after

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Internet Archive went down from a JS library exploit but it's all been improved upon since then afaik. But the users are all in HaveIBeenPwned now.

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80-800GB of data (im guessing from memory) was used in training the pile. That was suspect or looked at in illicit manor. Rest of it was legitimate.

lucid bobcat
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HaveIBeenPwned has more users than Facebook

thorn axle
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dose anyone use amd gpu to run stable diffusion?

modern pagoda
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Think there's an AMD guide some where in here

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I cant remember the number of users whos emails n pass hashes were leaked from IA. Pretty sad tho. Neutral party support peace & knowledge for all, hit by that stuff.

lucid bobcat
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Does anyone know any nodes to mess with the latent layers (after inference)? Has anyone done any experiments like changing the weight of specific layers?

fervent thunder
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latents only have one layer

lucid bobcat
fervent thunder
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oh yeah the term you need is channels

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on SDXL and SD 1.5 I used to manipulate channels a lot
but for Flux its hard to know what each channel does

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pretty much SDXL has two colour channels, one for intensity and one for pattern/structure

copper crystal
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is there a flux paper yet?

lucid bobcat
sharp fulcrum
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time to see how intuitive comfyui is
i've been using a1111 and its derivatives for years, i'm going to see how long it takes me to produce an image on comfyui that would be the result of my normal workflow (generate image, upscale image, use adetailer on the face) without any guides

atomic mortar
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It has a comfy ui backend AND a nice front end you can use

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And support is pretty good

sharp fulcrum
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i've been using the old version of forge for so long 😭

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because it's still faster than the latest version of a1111

atomic mortar
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I switched from a1111/forge to swarm really early and its simply the best choice ive made

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I do got a seperate comfy ui setup but thats because swarm doesnt like comfymanager

copper crystal
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We will publish a more detailed tech report in the near future. their original flux blog post said this

sharp fulcrum
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i would just switch to the latest version of forge but it breaks this extension that i get a crap ton of use out of, where it's a few buttons where you have resolution presets

copper crystal
sharp fulcrum
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that's what i assumed, which is why i've stayed away from it for so long

copper crystal
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i dont know how i set it up wrong but swarmui doesn't load flux for me. it loads the nf4 version after it prompted to install nf4 support. and that works, but is slower than forge ui. i bet i'm just doing it wrong though

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apparantly there's comfy desktop now. a more robust app or something

sharp fulcrum
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which quant of flux do you think i could run on a 4070 Super? i was thinking probably fp8

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i just got this GPU a few days ago and it's a monster for SDXL compared to what i was using before

copper crystal
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there's not a lot of difference in the inferrence for it

sharp fulcrum
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i keep feeling like i should have spent another $100 for a 7900xt

copper crystal
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naw. no cuda

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you would've suffered

sharp fulcrum
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i think it would be slower but it could handle larger image and text models

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since it has 20gb of VRAM

copper crystal
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llm quants work well. and you can always rent cloud gpu to see what you were missing out on. $100 would go a long way towards cloud services

sharp fulcrum
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the 7900xt would also be better for gaming i think

copper crystal
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well, a bit of a way

copper crystal
sharp fulcrum
copper crystal
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i had a vega64 when i began my sd14 journey. i was using collab and then eventually figured out how to run auto1111 on my arch linux setup

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v64 was slightly better than a 1070 and slightly worse than a 1070ti, but had no cuda. so you were better off than I

sharp fulcrum
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paperspace gradient is like $8 a month and you can sometimes get access to an A4000 for 6 hours at a time

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it runs jyupiter notebooks though

copper crystal
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there's always tons of people converting every new LLM model to GGUF quants. its a good scene

fervent thunder
copper crystal
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i can experiment with them locally really well to learn all the particular settings. but if i really wanted to do one seriously, i'd rent cloud space for it. then use the knowledge and tricks i've picked up locally on that

sharp fulcrum
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flux probably won't run on the old pre-gradio 4 build of forge

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so i'm installing swarmUI if that can do it

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i also have the latest automatic1111 webui as a last resort

copper crystal
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i doubt that the actual forge project is going to get a lot of updates going forward too. i think it's kinda dead in the water and the author has lost his enthusiasm since its gone unappreciated

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there's the reforge project which i think is more updated than auto1111, and has the comfyui backend so it's faster.

but it don't do flux

thorn citrus
silk condor
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What website can I use to train my own checkpoint?

slender vault
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Civit

silk condor
slender vault
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oh you want an actual checkpoint trainer? thats local

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why do you want a full checkpoint? lora could possibly achieve what you're looking for

silk condor
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Yeah, I want to try to find a way to convert my current SD 1.5 Checkpoint into a Pony one with own training

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I am using my current SD1.5 Checkpoint that does my style atm. Like how the images turn out.

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Lora is more just to make it look like another character right?

slender vault
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no

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styles

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concepts

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people

silk condor
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and I wanna update that oen with those image I have done but to a Pony checkpoint

slender vault
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lora is like a tiny checkpoint addon that helps reinforce what its trained ontop of the model's knowledge

silk condor
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Or should I just do a Lora instead?

slender vault
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i would yea

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no sites that i know of (considering i didnt look hard cause loras is enough for me) that lets you train full checkpoints, i know theres local methods but you need allot of vram

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you can loras on cvivit for cheap if you dont have the hardware to train locally

silk condor
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I got a okay GPU and do it on my PC

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but not sure how

silk condor
atomic mortar
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Pony is just a variant of a sd model

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If you train a lora using autismmix ponyv6 for example for a certain style/concept with the proper pony tags its a pony lora

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But i would check on civit ai articles/guides they are pretty good

gentle prairie
atomic mortar
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Iirc swarm has it supported too

gentle prairie
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is there an extension or prompt method to apply a prompt only to one character?

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like only one of the character having glasses

oblique elk
low moon
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Damn Hunyuan video is good. Wish it has image to video.

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cant believe it runs on 12 gb vram now

zinc garden
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hello

gentle prairie
silk condor
low moon
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i heard rumors of ti working on 8 and even 6

remote grove
heavy crypt
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I'm a newb and i may crash and burn but can any point me in the direction of a site/pdf/doc that I can learn about training AI's to generate images of a specific character. I want to take an existing character and create images or inpaint it onto someone. Wish I could ask the question better but no idea what doing

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i think 'training' is the write word but not sure

sonic ember
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Very frustrated with blowing through tons of buzz credits on Civit.ai trying to get concepts and image styles to work. I'm mostly using pony (and variations therof), but it's woefully garbage at understanding some pretty basic concepts. I've wasted HOURS on concepts like "woman riding a horse" (which utterly baffled it, with some really nightmarish results), "woman on a hammock", etc. What is your approach to iterating concepts without blowing through credits? Do you start with a simple prompt like "1 woman, laying in a hammock", generate that, and then go from there with more and more details? Or do you type in the most accurate detailed prompt you can on the first try, and if it does seem to undestand, change base models?

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Then I find a draft image I like, and I go to remix with seed and up the sampling rate, and the style ends up being really not what I expected, even based on the LoRAs I'm using.

heavy crypt
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i've been playing with generating images to 'find something i liked' and that can severly expensive

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im new at this so get a vets opinion but you talking alot of do

sonic ember
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I've only been at this about a month

heavy crypt
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have you thought about doing comfyui or some other ai generation app that you can do for free until you see something you like?

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pick the mods, checkpoints and other filters you want and keep going till you get osmething close. im using one ethat i can generate 4 images in about 15 secs...the aren't great but give idea on how character and background will look

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can i post a pic here to show you?

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Aero: sent you some messages. Have to afk a bit. GL 🙂

prime raven
sonic ember
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I tried comfyui, drawthings (I'm on mac), and regular SD webUI. Drawthings, i just get mostly terrible results overall, maybe it's my settings. ComfyUI works well, and so does regular webUI, but I also run into memory issues when using those, even if I'm not using a larger model like flux-s. I want to revisit Comfy when I have a bit of a better handle things, and also once the dopamin drug-effect of churning things through Civit.ai dies down.

silk condor
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Anyone using Kohya_ss and could help me with how to setup stuff in there or to give me guides? 🙂

lapis mirage
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Why am I unable to use certain models after I downloaded them and put them in the model files?

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They are available but I can't apply them

oblique elk
sonic ember
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Yeah I have all the quality (and negative) parts of my prompts. I've made some very good looking stuff that I'm happy with, but sometimes it's really frustrating blowing through credits trying to get it to understand just a composition concept. I'd share some examples, but the stuff I'm working on right now is NSFW, and I know the server rules. 😛

soft sparrow
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is there an online service that has good image editing capabilities with stable diffusion or something like that?

sonic ember
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So on comfyUI, is there a way to move multiple LoRAs in and out, rather than plopping a bunch of LoRA loader components, connecting them all, etc?

gentle prairie
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I've tried a few dragon ball/toriyama lora, but i can't get the look at all unlike other lora which capture the style quite well... what am i doing wrong? there's no trigger word for them, aside one, and i'm using it

cedar salmon
frosty hawk
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Morning

sonic ember
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I'm trying the quantized Flux Schnell in Invoke, and it needs the bitsandbytes module. Anyone know where I can grab the right thing? Im searching Huggingface but not entirely sure

quartz siren
sonic ember
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Yeah I did. Do I need to restart invoke?
Edit: think I got it, looks like it wasn't actually installed the first time. Then had to reset InvokeUI.

slender vault
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yes restart anytime you add something

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not just refresh restart the script

gentle prairie
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some people on civitai have a full on checkpoint, and the same style but as a lora, and the pictures i've seen on both looks super close to each other, so why would i use the checkpoint instead of the lora which is way smaller?

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looking for pros and cons here

atomic mortar
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some loras can conflict with eachother and some can influence other in ways not intended

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checkpoints are generally more braod

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broad

sonic ember
slender vault
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that is strange, you're installing it after activating the venv masnually?

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also are you using stability matrix by chance?

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.. \ .. \ venv \ scripts \ activate.bat
(without spaces) then pip install bitsandbytes

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try that

sonic ember
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Yeah says. "already satisfied"

lucid bobcat
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Me: "What is DiT?"
ChatGPT: "It seems like "DiT" isn't a widely recognized term, and I couldn't find any specific information about it"
Me: "You know!"
ChatGPT: "Indeed, I do! DiT stands for Diffusion Transformers."

calm hearth
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Hey when using flux why does inpainting take so much longer than img2img? Shouldn’t changing the entire pic take longer than sections?

fervent thunder
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because when we look at model size in terms of parameters or gigabytes, that's only an estimation of how heavy they will be to run
different pytorch operations and different blocktypes have different running durations

verbal osprey
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Anyone here buying a 5090?! Let's get some hype going!

modern moss
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Can you use virtual gpus from nvidia

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To generate

modern moss
verbal osprey
calm hearth
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If ur buying it not for gaming and just ai gen I would maybe wait for an ai targeted card to come out within this year

modern pagoda
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Whats the price point on 5080 & 5090?

verbal osprey
modern pagoda
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🥲😭

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Truth

calm hearth
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It’s just rumors they say they don’t decide the price until Jensen basically gets on stage, but they’re saying $2.6k for the 5090 and $1.4k for the 5080

modern pagoda
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😭😭

verbal osprey
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With tax that's easily close to $3k

modern pagoda
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Before gougers too lol

calm hearth
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Meh I’d rather nvidia get the money than scalpers

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It’s gonna sell out either way

verbal osprey
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Can't wait to pick up one of these for $10k on ebay

modern pagoda
verbal osprey
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I wonder if Nvidia will have a trade in program.....where you can trade in one kidney for a video card.

modern moss
fresh ruin
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is there any shortcut do activate/deactive adetailer?

neon hedge
verbal osprey
fervent thunder
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Is there a nsfw location here

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I need to post furries.

copper crystal
tacit tiger
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it's only $3000?? that could be pry win... if I actually had that much extra money

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need some 3rd party benchmarks for all this stuff.. but I bet that min comp would be epic for image generating

copper crystal
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starting price. but it's a new form factor that i expect ot make a huge disruption

atomic mortar
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2600? Nvidia announced 2k

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See the other general

copper crystal
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the digits pc is not the 5090

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oh you were replying to the rumors blu talked about

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i wouldn't expect retailers to sell non founders cards at MSRP. they'll all be jacked up with rgb bells an whistles, and traditional price gouging.

MSRP is just recommended

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also, incoming tarriffs. these cards aren't made in america

copper crystal
atomic mortar
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Hmm im just unsure if to grab a founder card or to wait a little

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I dont like the rgb stuff, just want a slick look

copper crystal
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just budget a little higher. all the founders cards will be scalped in a quick minute and then marked up to what the market value is

cedar salmon
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preorder from Nvidia if they do that again

copper crystal
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i dont think they allow preorders. and if they do, scalpers will buy up all the preorders in a quick minute

cedar salmon
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ya i dont know anymore what they do, i did that with the 2080ti

copper crystal
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market value is market value. theres no sense fighting it. it was never a mining problem. it was always people capitalizing on the value of efficiency

visual pier
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Does someone else totally geek out about the technology? Like the techniques you can use and stuff like that have become a special interest of mine and I sometimes just unload it unto friends :D

copper crystal
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this is a server dedicated to that so , probably.

friend's dont like info dumps so much. i've been told i do it a lot

visual pier
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Pfff basically all my friends have autism as well so they at least understand :D
Its usually a friend and me dumping info at each other

copper crystal
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vibe

visual pier
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But I dont have the balls of posting that stuff on BlueSky because I follow a loooot of furry artists. And furry artists hate AI with a passion

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So I feel the itch to share

empty pike
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hello

copper crystal
visual pier
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I know :D
I am in the community myself. And I have seen the ripples

copper crystal
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guy i worked with was dating a furry artist and that dude was banking cash. especially during the pandemic. just hauling it in fist over fist

visual pier
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And now you can just kind of get that yourself

copper crystal
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on demand furry art yup. lol. not my style.. i'm not really into it at all, but i respect the fun people have

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its not just people who want stuff doing it either. other people are answering commissions and now the market is flooded with other artists. but they're all using ai

visual pier
copper crystal
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so is a lot of art. the anthromorphs i like are dogs playing poker. cats in hats. the classics

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animorphs were popular books when i was growing up but i was always a goosebumps lover

ruby jacinth
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Hey guys! I am an aspiring content creator and was just getting into the realm of ai. Would someone be able to help guide me into what sort of computer I would need in order to run stable siffusion? Would I need a desktop or could I get a mini pc? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated bc I am not the best with computers. Thank you 🙌

visual pier
copper crystal
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you can also rent hardware on the cloud if you want to dip your toes

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keep in mind that linux is king in the realm of ai too. Python is the language. you're going to want to learn system terminals.

ruby jacinth
ruby jacinth
copper crystal
ruby jacinth
copper crystal
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get a bank loan. max your cards. its fun

copper crystal
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a lot of content creators run their generation stuff on cloud services. depending on how much power costs its the easy choice

ruby jacinth
copper crystal
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not very well at all. you need a powerful ML specific chip with lots of memory

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macbooks have the neural engine, but there's not a ton of software support

ruby jacinth
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okay so when you say buy the new 5090, you mean to purchase a desktop and the GPU in addition?? sorry, I'm a bit slow when it comes to computers 🤦‍♂️

copper crystal
visual pier
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visual pier
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I personally think you should try to get into it as soon as possible as cheap as possible and scale up from there

copper crystal
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i'm on windows myself but sometimes i run WSL2 (linux VM on windows basically)

visual pier
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Why xD
Ah

ruby jacinth
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okay, are there any resources you know about as far as how to buy pc parts and build it yourself?? I'm a complete noob

copper crystal
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copper crystal
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copper crystal
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attackers want to get viruses on AI capable machines so that they can hijack the compute tehy're capable of . there's been a few situations where keyloggers or miners are installed

visual pier
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No I mean why the scripts

copper crystal
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copper crystal
# visual pier What extensions T-T

i can't remember. it was dealt with overnight when it showed up. i might be misremembering. there's been a couple comfyui custom nodes that were viruses too

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but anyday one could show up. they're scripts. anything you run on your machine could own it in theory

visual pier
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I am personally using default A1111 mostly :D
Theres some stuff you can practically only do in Comfy.... but I use StableSwarm for that

copper crystal
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i use a mix of forge ui, swarmui, and fooocus

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sometimes i play in 0most for funzies

ruby jacinth
copper crystal
visual pier
copper crystal
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still recommending a full on desktop even for a basic start. since desktops scale up better than laptops or minipcs

visual pier
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Yeah ofc

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Because you can swap out parts yourself

copper crystal
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its like lego its fun

visual pier
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And cheaper

ruby jacinth
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here is what grok suggested:

cpu: Nvidia RTX 3060 12 gb
cpu: AMD Ryzen 5600 or Intel i5-12400
RAM: 16 or 32gb
Storage: Samaung 860 QVO
Motherboard: B450/B550
PSU: 550W-650W 80+Bronze or higher
Case and cooling: NZXT H510 or Cooler Master NR400

visual pier
copper crystal
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12gb of vram is okay but 16 is better

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24 is the best you can get at home without going overboard and getting datacenter grade hardware

atomic mortar
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32 soon though waow

visual pier
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What do you even do with fast generation like that xD

calm hearth
atomic mortar
visual pier
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Ok video gen makes sense. But I can not see the need for that many images :D

atomic mortar
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I make like 1-2k images a day so for me it would save time lol

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And using it to generate images for new study material in edu (hand edited after)

visual pier
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Except for like video, which I can understand somewhat

atomic mortar
visual pier
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Even like 20 images a day would be way too much for that though :D

atomic mortar
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Yeah but how many of those 20 are great

visual pier
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Unless its all variations where you pick a few good images

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I see

atomic mortar
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Or just right

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And not to mention the afterwork/editing

visual pier
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But then I would recommend training your prompting :D

atomic mortar
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My prompts are fine lol, i get really good results but sometimes not exactly what i want

visual pier
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Then your prompts are not fine xD

atomic mortar
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Certain concepts etc but its also useful to train eventual concept loras

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The model doesnt know everything yet

visual pier
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Like I can get from idea to image in like... 5 or something in-between images so to say

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Not literal thousands

atomic mortar
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Certain background layouts, colorschemes, skin colours, and wildcards

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And the bane of my existence, proper multi characters in one image

visual pier
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I mean if you really do want something very specific AI is not the right tool I think

atomic mortar
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And not to forget its also fun

visual pier
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Ai is better at spontaneous creation

atomic mortar
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Yeah i know, been using it since 1.5 release

visual pier
atomic mortar
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God forbid a man has hobbies lmao

visual pier
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I mean you do you. But to me it seems like theres flaws in your process that lead to waste :O

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Huge huge waste

atomic mortar
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Mostly experimental gets waste tbh

visual pier
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So much waste that its more in a day than some users have created put together

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But its all digital so its not exactly hurting anyone

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But my autism kicks in :D

atomic mortar
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Trying to get mostly ai feel out of them. 40 variations of a after detailer so i dont have to do it manually etc

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Inpainting*

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Some ai images get this soulless look and i really dont like that so i try not to have that

visual pier
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Yeah but thats mostly composition/ pose

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And some color of course

atomic mortar
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Or the blank eyes, the way certain elements interact etc

visual pier
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I get that :D

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But like... comparing 40 variations of an image before changing the prompt?

atomic mortar
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No

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Lets say 10 variations of a single prompt

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I like 2 out of the 10

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I impaint the things i want to change, and let it run for 30-40 variations of the impainting process

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Because impainting still messes up hands etc

visual pier
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Ah I see

atomic mortar
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So i dont have to babysit it

visual pier
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Inpainting is the issue here imho

atomic mortar
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And if you do that a few times you hit 1-2k easyly

visual pier
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I just... go with the flow so to say

atomic mortar
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Yeah but its no biggie, i just dont want to babysit everything

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Wouldent call it a issue

visual pier
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Because of stuff you mentioned with like hands n stuff I personally think its too much to really work with. For me

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Its much better to try another variation or other weights/ keywords

atomic mortar
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Its not that big of a problem, sometimes the hands come out fine without any problem

visual pier
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Yeah exactly :O

atomic mortar
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From the getgo

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But if i do game cg/assets well you need a LOT

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Rpgmaker/renpy games comissions etc

visual pier
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Depending on what you do :D
But depending on what you do AI is also a bad fit

atomic mortar
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Even had a few html

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Eh if they request it knowing it its not my problem

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Also using it for new study books at my work as theres been an budget cut again

visual pier
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For like stock images?

fervent thunder
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nvidias new 3000$ pc seems a banger, able to run 200B parameter models, so im assuming it will also be able to generate 15 flux images at the same time

atomic mortar
floral umbra
calm hearth
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hey guys im using flux in forge with a 3080 and my generations went from like 3-5 minutes to now 20 minutes. i dont know what setting i changed if anything. i have 64gb ram and its utilzing almost 100% when im generating something

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am i doing like something obv stupid that im not seeing

warm junco
calm hearth
warm junco
fervent thunder
floral umbra
sonic ember
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I always forget how much denoise to use- if I'm taking a illustration-style image and I want to upscale it with a photorealistic model, should I use less denoise, more denoise, or in the middle?

copper crystal
fervent thunder
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There is a good Int4 version of Flux here too, its been out for about 2 months. They have FP4 version as well, but the Int4 version is useable already without new GPU. https://huggingface.co/mit-han-lab/svdquant-models

lucid bobcat
fervent thunder
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denoise numbers change based on your schedule, resolution and sampler

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so we can't really help

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if you are in Comfy you can use the "split sigmas at sigma" node from Comfyui-predictions
whichever sigma number you choose for this node will work the same across different schedules, resolutions and samplers
timesteps change but sigmas don't

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even then, big enough resolution differences will change it

ripe mist
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hello

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mision completed

cinder plaza
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hey fam

slender vault
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yes

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it will

lucid bobcat
fervent thunder
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NVIDIA Project DIGITS is slower than a 4090
it just has a lot more VRAM

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DIGITS is "up to" 1 PFLOPS FP4
4090 has 1.3 PTOPS Int4
5090 has over 3 PFLOPS FP4

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note I gave the Int4 number for 4090 cos that's the 4 bit number format it supports

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its a fair comparison though

cedar salmon
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seems like marketing for computer labs in schools, just buy this and you can plug it into your Dell

fervent thunder
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lol

lucid bobcat
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It'll be predominantly used by call centers for customer "service" lol. Or by Indian scammers.

fervent thunder
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probably haha

atomic mortar
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No? If you mean ai filtering copyrighted images

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Its free below 1m in revenue?

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Yeah if i was i wouldent be talking about it lol

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No worries lol, i have done some reading up before doing it so its fine

cedar salmon
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its still pretty convoluted, its 1 mil from any source, like you made 1.1 mill plumbing and you want to use SD for a flyer, you need a license

atomic mortar
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Granted i earn 40k ish a year i got a long way to go before i hit 1m so no worries!

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What no my real job is 40k

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This doesnt hit anything close

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Its pocket change lol

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I prefer xl still

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No not turbo

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Just sdxl generally

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Mostly due vram constraints:^)

real fox
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Gm

lucid bobcat
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The speed is similar to Flux, but the image quality is worse. However I prefer the composition and overall appearance over Flux. It could be useful to create an initial prototype with 3.5 and then use Flux for refinement.

dusty trellis
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How many tokens can I pass in a prompt. I have read 77, but also 512 with T5. I'm still new to all of this and continuing to research.

copper crystal
quartz siren
copper crystal
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neato!

calm hearth
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On flux why do gen times like basically quadruple if you increase the CFG scale at all or put any word at all into the prompt? Is flux made to not use the prompt and swing different denoising gens?

copper crystal
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anything over 1

calm hearth
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I have found myself going back to epicRealismPureEvolution for editing. Like I create batches of pics I want, then I change it to flux and run it through im2im at a low denoise and basically use it as a glorified upscaler. Thoughts? Dumb/smart/neither?

fervent thunder
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would be more efficient to fine tune flux to get the look that you want

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without needing to go through lots of seeds

copper crystal
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loras are super useful for flux to cut through the guidance

hot rock
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hello

hoary crypt
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Hello

hot rock
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was looking for a community for SD like this. was wondering how people were getting hyper realistic results with their avatars / characters.

merry gust
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who was enough knowledge over stability matrix (loras, etc) so i can ask for help for something

atomic mortar
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What do you wanna ask? On how to train a lora?

copper crystal
hot rock
# copper crystal Good prompting and good models.

have a mix of both... but i feel maybe one or the other needs tweaking. i use a realism lora and chatgpt with an assigned role and context training to help tweak my prompts. still, sometimes the output can look a little airbrushed here and there.

copper crystal
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what UI are you using?

hot rock
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forge

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flux

copper crystal
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what do you mean by "hyper realism" because that's typically an art style that sculpters use

hot rock
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realistic

copper crystal
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and you're having difficulty getting flux to be realistic? forge has the sampler for flux that drives the realism home really well

hot rock
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im curious what combinations of lora other ppl use

atomic mortar
atomic mortar
hot rock
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guess it depends what you're into also. some like creating anime, others landscapes, and models

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im using ae, imageupgrader, flux realism, and a hand one so they don't get all distorted...

fervent thunder
copper crystal
# hot rock im curious what combinations of lora other ppl use

for realism, i generally don't use anything for flux. It's aesthetics guidance by stock looks very aesthetically photorealistic already. I use the special sampler that forge ui has if i'm using forge. not much else.

if i want specific art styles or characters, i'll use a lora.

hot rock
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trying one generation without lora and the prompt i last used with a few to see what i get

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about the same

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well.. im willing to bet that it's people who can afford to use pro that get the next level of realism up lol

copper crystal
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i dont know what you mean by realism still. Photo realistic is easy to achieve

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the influencers you're looking at are likely doing post processing or upscaling with topaz or using multiple passes in comfyui. There are so many approaches to get a higher quality looking image, but "realism" is very vague. it doesn't describe your goal at all

merry gust
atomic mortar
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Depends on the question lol, if i dont know others might

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But i think if people have to dig to get the question out of you they arent gonna be stoked about helping lol

merry gust
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Sure lets go with how to train a lora

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how do you do it

atomic mortar
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Ah based on that question, i would recommend you use either civitAI or koyha_ss if your pc is powerful enough

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(mobile link)

hot rock
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there's also flux_gym for low ram local lora training on pinokio. koyha_ss is on there too though some use google kolab

atomic mortar
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It really depends on what model he wants to make a lora for too

hot rock
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true

atomic mortar
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If its for hunyan video, you can make a concept or style lora pretty easyly but a motion lora i have no idea

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You train with videos but thats a whole different story

hot rock
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could not get hunyan to work.. or pyramid flow

atomic mortar
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Me neither, lack of vram

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But once the 5090 drops i will lmao

hot rock
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i really want a local open-sourced image to video generator on my pc lol

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if i can log in, then ill burn up my kling credits but ive been focused on generating images for like 40+ genres / environments

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so will be doing videos after i edit and audit some more

hot rock
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i have 12VRAM at least

atomic mortar
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Hmm what ui were you using?

hot rock
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i tried with pinokio then via github method

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also after some time it would time out on trying to download the safetensors

atomic mortar
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Hmm strange

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I never heard of pinokio so i wouldent know

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Still strange it would time out

hot rock
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it's like stability matrix or the other one ppl use that has a GUI for a bunch of programs all packaged nicely so that they dont have to download one by one

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i would use comfy_ui but the manager doesnt work for me 😦

copper crystal
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i'm looking at that digit pc. a blackwell 5070 equivalent chip with 128gb of ddr5 memory to access

hot rock
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anyone know how people are making videos of models walking around and doing stuff? the quality has been excellent...not noticing hallucinations as much like months past with some generators... i would guess that it's kling or minimax plus some pose control / openpose dance.

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havent looked it up on reddit or anything yet

copper crystal
civic cradle
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anybody an expert in style making using illustrious and pony?

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i need help

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i can train characters but not styles for some reason

thorn citrus
livid gale
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guys

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i cant

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why it keeps putting 2 girls on the image if i literally have it in the negative prompt

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usual prompt is also fine
theres nothing that can conflict

atomic mortar
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Are there keywords that could hint at more then 1 person

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Any loras?

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1:1 image or is it like 16:9

livid gale
# atomic mortar What is the prompt?

1girl, anime, source_anime, line art, symmetrical_face, small_nose, simple eyes, large_eyes, almond-shaped_eyes, brown eyes, thick_eyelashes, well-defined_eyebrows, smooth_skin, round_face, delicate_features, short_hair, brown_hair, layered_hair, bangs, hair between eyes, (slim body:1.3), small ass, (big breasts:1.3), bookstore, excited, wide opened eyes, pointing to the side
line art style lora
1:1 image

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i dont think theres something that could provide more than 1 person

fresh ruin
#

what do we all think about the new gpu series? Is it not worth not buy a 4090 right now?

atomic mortar
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( ) adds weight

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And

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1.3 also does

winged sapphire
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hey guys, whats the best ai tool for turning photos of clothes into photos of models wearing the clothes?

warm junco
boreal prairie
#

Hello guys!

I wanted to ask if anybody here uses Stability Matrix on some regular basis? I wanted to Install forge and I did some digging in the old reddit threads where people suggested using Stability Matrix for better organization and later moving the folder if you ever need to change drives or PCs. But others also warned that there are a lot of bugs and it doesn't work properly.

But all of those are quite old reddit threads and i've yet to find out what is the deal with Stability Matrix right now. If you are using it for running multiple webuis, please share your experience, I would much appreciate it
🙏🙏🙏

fervent thunder
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Hi

fallow pulsar
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hello from story !

distant glacier
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Would it be possible to train a lora on Illustrious, with only 8Gb of VRAM?

atomic mortar
distant glacier
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by "comments" you mean pinned messages?

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those are +1.5 year old, I guess it's outdated

hot rock
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I would imagine it'd take days

distant glacier
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surely it can't take that long, unless I want to train a lora using +100 pics

devout horizon
distant glacier
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That's fine I guess

hot rock
#

yeah guess it depends on how many images you wanna do too. epochs = 10 steps per image iirc

distant glacier
#

I don't know yet, but loras can work fine with way less than 100 images, right?

hot rock
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if you have 30 quality ones from different angles and environments i think it'd be fine.

distant glacier
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Does it matter if it's for a character?

hot rock
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that i can't tell you as I've only done characters

distant glacier
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specifically, it's for the eyes of a character

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because they're often messed up with no lora

fervent thunder
#

Hey there, future dropshipping& reselling rockstar ! Let me ask you, are you tired of feeling stuck and frustrated with your online business? Are you struggling to find the right products, suppliers, and marketing strategies to drive sales and growth?
I've Been in Your Shoes
I know what it's like to feel overwhelmed and unsure of how to succeed in dropshipping &reselling . But I also know what it's like to break through those barriers and achieve success. And I'm here to guide you every step of the way.

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drop shipping stopped being a thing in 2010 when Aliexpress opened and factories in China were able to sell to the US directly

atomic mortar
#

Either a bot or a desperate guy

hot rock
distant glacier
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it's eyes with specific shaped pupils

hot rock
#

ah

long rover
#

yo what up

limpid island
#

hello, hoping someone can help me out here. I installed automatic1111 on my pc last night. I'm wondering what's some good models for making monsters and such? kinda like bing ai before it got censored into not being able to make cool stuff

atomic mortar
limpid island
atomic mortar
limpid island
atomic mortar
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check resources used for the model

limpid island
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thanks i'll try that out

atomic mortar
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its a lora

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works on both anime ish and realistic i see

copper crystal
#

nice lora though thanks for linking

vast pendant
#

Hello! Help, tell me which LoRA, or what extension can be used to get a square empty frame for a game avatar or card game. I use SD 1.5

lucid bobcat
vast pendant
lucid bobcat
vast pendant
warped elm
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is civitai down

fervent thunder
#

ye

quartz swan
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shiiitttt

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hope its up now PrayToTheLordAmen

tacit tiger
#

hey guys, does anyone use FORGE UI ?? I read it was good so I use it... but now it seems like people only use comfy

slender vault
kind slate
#

@slender vault does comfyui create images with simple prompts like Fooocus? I’ve been trying AUTOMATIC1111 but I can’t get consistent results or even anatomically correct images. I just started using Fooocus but it seems a lot slower to me although it’s very easy to create good and consistent images. Also, the stop or skip buttons are unresponsive for me.

Thanks.

slender vault
copper crystal
# civic cradle i can train characters but not styles for some reason

Pony has catastrophically destroyed knowledge of the base model already, and disaligned the network from the text encoder in a big way. Don't try to train styles for pony xl. just use a better model. Train the styles on the base SDXL model, then use it on any SDXL model. If you do it with smart enough settings, then it should even work on every pony model, since pony is'nt a base model. it uses SDXL as a base

civic cradle
copper crystal
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i would still train your dataset on the base model and then use it on illustrious

civic cradle
#

people say its better

civic cradle
copper crystal
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It's an sdxl refine. that's how base models work

civic cradle
#

but still how do i make a good lora

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all my attempts end up as blurs or blobs of color

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makes sense that the encoder got destroyed for pony

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i would explode myself if i was forced to observe horse genitalia 616 million times

copper crystal
civic cradle
atomic mortar
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How do you tag the images

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Could also be improperly set settings in the trainer

copper crystal
civic cradle
civic cradle
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different settings

atomic mortar
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Auto tagger but did you use a unique identifier for the style?

civic cradle
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like a trigger?

atomic mortar
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I see a lot of styles do it

copper crystal
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your tagging might be the culprit. the dataset is the biggest key. settings while training only drive it home

civic cradle
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i can show u my dataset

atomic mortar
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Civit aj auto tagger is wunk, i had images of perfectly pg13 labeled porn and actual nsfw as pg13

civic cradle
copper crystal
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describe which schedulers you've tried, because i feell this is suspect claim. "how do i make a good lora" is not a very well informed question, to be blunt

civic cradle
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liek this

atomic mortar
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Depending on the model, pony uses a terrible way

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But a normal sdxl image

civic cradle
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damn no image perms

civic cradle
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but illust is the priority for me

copper crystal
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cnh cartoon, stick figure smiling, green shirt, inside, line art

atomic mortar
civic cradle
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damn

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i gotta retag it

atomic mortar
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Depending on the action you want it to do ofc

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A still image with hands up can very well "raised arms"

copper crystal
#

so you don't know anything about different schedulers?

civic cradle
atomic mortar
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With image generation if you forget stuff it's fine. With loras it gets wunk

civic cradle
atomic mortar
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You gotta tag it

civic cradle
#

and thats about it when it comes to lora knowledeg

copper crystal
#

so you haven't really tried 50 different approaches then. Why lie when you want help?

civic cradle
atomic mortar
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Did you follow a tutorial for that specific lora trainer or did you dive in blind?

copper crystal
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i dive in blind but that's just my style

civic cradle
copper crystal
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for a style i find less tags are better. otherwise you end up with the lora requireing "dot eyes" to do it

civic cradle
atomic mortar
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Same but if i get stuck i lookup a tutorial, i rather grind my gears for 5 hours then read a 5-10minute tutorial

copper crystal
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i use kohya bmaltais gui

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and schedule free training

atomic mortar
civic cradle
atomic mortar
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I recommend following a tutorial <3

civic cradle
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i made my own tutorial for characyers

copper crystal
civic cradle
civic cradle
copper crystal
civic cradle
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lmao

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good point

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i wana make other styles too

copper crystal
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i'm only being honest to keep you in scope. you don't seem to really want to learn even

civic cradle
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like extracredits/extrahistory

copper crystal
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you want it to be one button easy. well, i gave you the easy way

civic cradle
copper crystal
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find someone else who done it

atomic mortar
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From lastyear

civic cradle
civic cradle
copper crystal
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i'd recommend schedule free training but you don't even know what you've used as a sampler/scheduler already

atomic mortar
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Doesnt style use like over 3000?

civic cradle
civic cradle
atomic mortar
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I get that this ai stuff is exciting to mess around with but i do recommend a little more research before diving in

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That and articulate the problems you with the steps youve already done. (Not just you tho its a common thing in this discord lmao)

civic cradle
civic cradle
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i help those that i can assist

atomic mortar
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Good Googling is a skill too nowadays

civic cradle
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lmao

atomic mortar
copper crystal
civic cradle
civic cradle
atomic mortar
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I meant the tutorial choom

civic cradle
copper crystal
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i honestly doubt that even 5 attempts have been made. i feel strung along by a dishonest person. and because of that, i'm abandoning this effort. it's like trying to help someone up while they're dead weighting their body

civic cradle
copper crystal
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doubt again

civic cradle
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damn

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i dont blame u

atomic mortar
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You'd face the same problems with sd 1.5 style training

civic cradle
#

even professionals coulnt help me

civic cradle
copper crystal
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don't blame other people for your lack of honesty

civic cradle
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im not a proffesional at all

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u can see the settings in my loras

all of them are the exact same settings

only difference is the repeats sand image count

atomic mortar
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But we read n research

civic cradle
civic cradle
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character loras come out perfect

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style not as much

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i even have a bounty on civit ai for a person who could teach me how to make a style lora

copper crystal
#

is @signal palm adding anyone else here ? they've never spoken in the server and requested a friend add to me. shady behavior for discord

copper crystal
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Seems like @near silo 's alt imo

near silo
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What?

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I don't have an alt in this server lol

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I have no idea who that is, and I am not associated with them. Not sure if they are causing issues or something

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@copper crystalPinging real quick so you know I responded

copper crystal
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they're pretending to be a dev. your M.O. convenient that you could answer so fast

near silo
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My MO?

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I am not a dev lol

copper crystal
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Modus Operandi

near silo
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I can't code to save my life

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I also responded cause you... pinged me? lol

copper crystal
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it's latin

near silo
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Anyways, I am not associated with them, whoever they are

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I have no reason to have an alt in this server, I am not even active in it. I just saw a discord notif and responded

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Also, I have never once pretended to be a dev, so I am not sure where you are getting that from

copper crystal
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Ok. You're dismissed

near silo
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Dismissed? lol

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Ok then, I guess lol

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Bit of an interesting move to ping me about being associated with some rando, claim something completely false about me, and then "dimiss me" but go off I guess

copper crystal
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K

near silo
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Damn, you are next level insufferable. Thanks for the slander, have a nice one lol

slender vault
copper crystal
near silo
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Glad its not just me that feels that way lol

near silo
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Its been months since I have messaged in here lmao

copper crystal
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remember when you told all the girls you were a mexican guitar player? that was fun

near silo
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What the hell are you talking about?

copper crystal
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that time you were like "i play the guitar all the time" but then i found the source video from 2004.. remember that?

near silo
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Dude, I seriously think you are remembering a different person lmfao

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Whattttt are you talking about? I will pay you $1000 to point me to where I ever said that lmao

slender vault
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just block and move on lol

near silo
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I was born in 2003. I AM Mexican, but I am absolutely not a guitar player? I genuinely have no idea what you are talking about droid_cry_squish

copper crystal
near silo
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Its... not?

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I have no idea who that is 😭

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I am being 100% serious, I have no idea why you think thats me. I am not that account?

copper crystal
#

K

near silo
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I have been in this server since a week after SD1.0 released. I've never done anything like what you're talking about lmao

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I don't play guitar, I have never claimed that I do. I would never show off to "girls", I am a gay man in a happy committed relationship. I AM Mexican, so I guess thats right? But I am more amused than anything about this

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This is at least very amusing lmao

I am curious who you are getting me confused for 😅

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@copper crystalSeriously tho, if somebody is saying things or acting out using my name, please let me know and link to it. I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about, but if somebody IS doing that with my name, I would appreciate knowing

copper crystal
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i'm not interesting in helping a troll out. thanks but no thanks.

near silo
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Alright, I am just gonna have to assume you are mentally unwell or trolling or something. I'd appreciate you either being a man and pointing to what you are talking about, or stopping, cause I don't appreciate being slandered like this

copper crystal
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lol dice by all accounts. comments like that shine.

near silo
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You think I am a different account?

heavy crypt
#

I am using tiles and have an image with 4 different pictures, 2 on either side, 2 in the middle. I can't seem to get it to fit into the save/load box its supposed to show in. It is cutting off the outside edge.. This is from Pixaroma's Lesson 28 (if that helps)

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tried redoing the image in gimp according to pixel settings and tried changing setting is workflow but im missing it

near silo
# copper crystal lol dice by all accounts. comments like that shine.

I have been in this server far longer than that account, so I have no idea why you would assume I am them. Whoever you are talking about is not me, and you have literally no evidence to think it is. I've been in this server for well over 2 years, and I have been a very active member (in the past) with literally nothing you are talking about

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Just cause some previous idiot thats not connected to me got you upset doesn't mean I am them lmao

copper crystal
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lol nah.

heavy crypt
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guys...skip all the hate...answer my question..plstxok

near silo
heavy crypt
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good point sytan..sorry..not enough coffee yet

near silo
# copper crystal lol nah.

Alright, I am just gonna conclude that you're a troll. Please keep my name out of your mouth if you are planning on spreading continued false statements about what I "supposedly did" when you have literally no proof. It makes you look crazy, not gonna lie. Especially when you are targeting one of the literal first members of this server 😭

copper crystal
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Sure thing Will

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you totally dont have a sea of obvious alts like dice ai dev. don't sound anything like that fella

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helps that the links were scrubbed last week huh? now you can be like "blahblablablahblah deny deny deny"

near silo
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@sudden ruin @bleak matrix I am so sorry to have pinged you guys, but is there any way we could have this guy stop spreading false information about me? I have employers in this server, and I don't need them thinking I am some "evil mastermind" or something

I have been a member in this server for well over 2 years with well over 30k messages, and this guy is projecting some weird obsession with somebody else on me

copper crystal
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that profile tied sytan's discord to their discord

near silo
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OK? I am looking at what you are sending. This looks like some crappy slop channel

near silo
copper crystal
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now alts that share the same ties are messaging me personally. it's all very sus

near silo
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Ok, if what you are saying is true, I need to figured this out. I am not linked to whoever the hell this is

copper crystal
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sure thing

near silo
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If somebody is trying to hijack my identity and using my discord, I need to know so I can stop it, cause I don't mess with this shit

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Says bro is in Australia, I am in California

copper crystal
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yeah they had changed that. they're not in aus. its an alt

near silo
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@finite cloak Hey man, can you please like... tell this guy I am not whoever he thinks I am? You have known me for a long time 😭

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Alright, I just joined that dudes discord. I am getting to the bottom of this, cause I don't need some stupid ass AI hype beast slandering my name and my account. I am not whoever the hell this is

finite cloak
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dafuq

near silo
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@copper crystalAny information you have on this would be massively appreciated. I am sorry I thought you were trolling. If somebody legitimately has been linking to my discord account, that's not cool. I do business on this account and I have employers in here

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Apparently this guy is saying some rando guy on youtube who was a menace in here was claiming my discord account as his own or something

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I just joined his server and messaged him, cause I don't want to be a part of whatever the hell this drama is

copper crystal
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its not my responsibility to sort your alts out. i pointed out to your dice account last week that you slipped, you scrubbed it all, made it look australiaan for some reason, then today you alting on me with a new account. now you're calling all the boss men acting like a victim. sort it out yourself.

near silo
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Bro WHAT are you TALKING ABOUT

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I have no evidence of if what you are saying is true, so I am taking it at face value. I have no idea who you are talking about or what you are talking about. I have been in this server since basically day one, and I have never claimed to be good with code, or be a guitar player, or anything like that. Whoever the hell this is is trying to steal my identity or something

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I'm looking at his youtube right now, and it looks like a cesspool of AI slop

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This dude's face has to be somewhere. Hes literally not me

visual pier
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I mean I just wanted to vent something else here, but you do sound very suspicious

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'I am totally not that other guy. Heres my 20 posts proving that. Absolutely not that guy. Nah uh'

near silo
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What am I supposed to do? Just sit here and let people think I am somebody I am not?

visual pier
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Yeah

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What are they gonna do?

finite cloak
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That dice dream youtube account is not Sytan and I have no idea what would lead nuuideas to think it is

copper crystal
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the evidence got scrubbed. i should've showed other people instead of just laughing at dice about it. now this

finite cloak
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some random older dude

copper crystal
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likely not him. he would link other guys playing guitar that weren't him here too. it's an alt with a crafted identity

near silo
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I am talking with this dude right now and hes as confused as I am

copper crystal
finite cloak
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to what possible end would sytan have spent actual years building up a random side identity just to eventually use for an alt in relation to tech that didn't exist at the time, letting him be a ai slop youtuber separate from his usual activities as a fairly intelligent ai researcher online

copper crystal
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i can't speak to that at all

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for fun ?

visual pier
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Heck you can even sell/ buy them :D

near silo
visual pier
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I mean I really dont care either way and dont want to come off as hostile. Its just that you really do sound suspicious the way that you vehemently defend yourself against a single accusation of a regular user?

Like its not like a mod wanted to ban you or anything

near silo
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It sjust weird to me is all. I am one of the OG's in this server, and I have never had somebody think this about me before. I am more confused and entertained than bothered lmao

finite cloak
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Try to think of it from Sytan's perspective here. Wild accusation thrown at him, he counters the accusation, "the fact that you're arguing just proves it more". Like, hwhat the witch trial hell

near silo
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Thank you! lmfao

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I'm getting whiplash from how out of the blue this all is lmao

copper crystal
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yeah it blew up. i just caught the vibe that synxaltz was a new alt that was trying to bait me into running a game server. no one else was catching messages from them, it was just me. soon as i showed "dice" link, it really went off

visual pier
near silo
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Wheoever this dice guy is is saying he doesn't know whats going on either. His youtube links to his discord server. I didn't see whatever you're talking about with him linking to me. I am not saying its false, just that I have no idea

visual pier
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We are already a community of underground users of a cyber technology we modify ourselves 😎

copper crystal
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yeah i stopped caring. maybe now the alts coming at me will stop since it's obvious

visual pier
copper crystal
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asking me to join their game server which presumeably requires running code

visual pier
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Idk just block them?

finite cloak
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that sounds like just the usual malware spambots? they go around at random all the time

visual pier
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And with text-AI getting better I think we will see more Bots over time anyways

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Anyways I came here to vent :D

copper crystal
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i find people tend to follow patterns, and sytan and synxaltz is a pattern. "altz" is also like, throwing the obviousness at me lol

visual pier
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Theres a vocal anti-AI crowd. Nothing new so far. But it hurts me to my core how... misinformed they are. Its like they treat information about AI as this blasphemous thing

Oh AI takes enough energy to suck a lake dry? Why can I run it on a potato then?
It searches (?) the internet for images to steal? It works perfectly fine offline....

And like the whole debate over how it never 'actschually creates anything'. It does create unique output. And yes using AI as a tool for art is, well art. Otherwise paint splatterings on canvas would not be art. I thought we established that anything can be art

It really grinds my gears sometimes. Instead of a constructive discussion its all just BS thrown at each other

copper crystal
visual pier
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No because they can do lots AI can't. Which they knew if they learned stuff :D

finite cloak
# visual pier Theres a vocal anti-AI crowd. Nothing new so far. But it hurts me to my core how...

Extremists will be extremists will be wrong. There's extremists on both sides, they're both wrong. Non-extremists on both sides complain about the extremists on the other side. While you complain about the people that treat AI like the devil, people that are reasonable but dislike AI complain about loud twitter AI bros yelling that AI is going to replace all artists and make instant personalized movies and etc. etc. nonsense.

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imo just ignore the extremists and focus on conversations with the reasonable people in between.

visual pier
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I try to. But its hard since I am in the furry community :D
Lots of butthurt artists. Even though their nieche is less in danger than they think

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Even just posting an AI image on bluesky could possibly see me blocked from like half the artists I follow (if it pops up on their radar ofc)

copper crystal
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guy i used to work with, his boyfriend is a furry artist. he has lost substantial income because the prices have severely dropped for commissions. AI artists are bidding a lot lower where before, he coudl sell his art for a good price because only him and a few others could do it

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There is a reality to the lost income

visual pier
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I know

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But theres a difference between lost income and completely lost job

copper crystal
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i don't talk to them about AI at all. it's a touchy subject for them

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got a lot of respect for my comrade in kitchen arms

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not really. Their skillset's worth diminished a ton over night. I get why he's a mad guy about it

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for a freelance artist, that's a huge deal

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i think you're underplaying it

visual pier
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I dont know where you get that from

But still misinformation does hurt both sides. Social media being what it is, it would be hard to counter though

tawny sparrow
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hi

visual pier
tawny sparrow
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how can I draw an image

copper crystal
visual pier
tawny sparrow
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brainless

copper crystal
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they don't have a job to begin with. they're their own boss. and when the market they sell on starts paying a lot less per image, while also having to compete against so many new people offering services in that market, it's a big deal. it's like they lost their job and can't even get a new one in the same field now

visual pier
tawny sparrow
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kos ommak

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ya 7mar

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@visual pier kos ommak ya 7mar

copper crystal
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i got out of web development because outsourcing happened. local hires were offered minimum wage and i could make more money doing service jobs. so i was edged out of that field. It's not quite the same situation, but it's very similar. I do have sympathy.

They'll have to come to grips with it. the money train for furry art is over.

visual pier
tawny sparrow
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ya akho sharmoota. I asked you how to make an image ya 3ars

copper crystal
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it's a greiving process

tawny sparrow
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and you make fun,. kos ommak ya maniak

visual pier
tawny sparrow
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ya

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i mean here

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AI images

visual pier
copper crystal
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let them grieve

visual pier
visual pier
copper crystal
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avoid community that are welcomeing to that kind of discussion. there's lots of those on reddit. /aiwars/ would be a big one

visual pier
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I get both sides btw. Artists and fans that hate AI. Friends of mine that are happy they dont have to pay hundreds of dollars for images anymore

copper crystal
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just dont flaunt it in their faces then.

Truth will prevail. misinformation can spread like wildfires through LA (too soon?) but ultimatley. people know vaccines save lives still. in another 10 years, it'll be even more obvious. grief comes with pain.

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think about the stages of grief and then when you see those people, just mark what they're doing on your grief bingo card

visual pier
copper crystal
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the outkasts are always the coolest.

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alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright

visual pier
copper crystal
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how cool? ICE COLD

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heeeyyyy yeah

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oh oh

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heyyy yeah OH OH

visual pier
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I think you should probably get some sleep :D
Isnt it like 3 am where you are

copper crystal
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10 to 2

visual pier
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See

copper crystal
visual pier
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Ok?

copper crystal
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the point is, we're at the edge because we're out casts. We got that cool perspective

near silo
copper crystal
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mine was olivia newton john's physical

visual pier
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Mine is nothing exciting (to me)

copper crystal
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i was hoping for thriller but that came out way later

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now i got physical stuck in my head

visual pier
near silo
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I am not sure I even know that song

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OH

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yeah, of course I know it lol

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Had no idea who the singer was 😅

visual pier
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Same

near silo
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And now I have Hey Yeah! stuck in my mind lmfao

copper crystal
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she's the one that you want. (ooo ooo ooo)

near silo
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Thats her?

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I really like that son

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wait-

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I might be confused

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I am a certified dumbass. I was thinking of Steevie Nicks Edge of Seventeen 😅

copper crystal
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so many old songs

near silo
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"Just like the white winged dove, sings a song, sounds like shes singing" (Ooh, ooh, ohh)" lmfao

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I have no idea how I thought thats what you were talking about lmao

copper crystal
near silo
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Oh wow, I haven't seen that clown in years

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Does he even still do things?

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Oh wow, he does. Looks like hes posting decently still

copper crystal
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yeah very active chan

near silo
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Hes got a very incredible voice, shame he doesn't get more activity

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I haven't been this active in this server in months lol

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I have just kinda had no reason to be here, cause I don't use SD3.x

visual pier
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Oh what do you use?

near silo
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I use flux more, cause I am working on a paid project around it, but I don't do TOO much image gen anymore. Been way more focused on making ultra fast training configs and local run LLM stuff

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Had some extremely promising stuff with said fast configs

copper crystal
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but seriously i shouldn't joke about LA burning while it is. I really wish everyone there stays safe. I fear the city might be lost much like Jasper BC was though

near silo
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Yeah... My best friend lives in West Hollywood, and they have been worried for a lot of their friends and family in the affected areas

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Sorry, North, not West

copper crystal
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i heard a few times over the years that if a wind hits a wild fire the right way, it could burn throuhg LA to the coast no problem. It's mostly a wooden city believe it or not.

I dont want to see that realized when i wake up

near silo
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I live in the Desert region North of LA by about 100 miles, and we had the extremely bad Blue Cut fire back in like 2018, and it was terrifying

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We also had the Line fire this year. Shit is scary

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just a sec, I have pics from it actually. The sky was insane

copper crystal
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i live in the woods. i'm so glad that this has not been a drought year. it's like living in a tinder box having drought for 5 years in a row. walking over my lawn like crricaack craciakckkiick

near silo
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I live right smack in the dry ass desert, but we live in an area with really well trimmed wild brush most times for that very reason

copper crystal
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neighbor lights off fireworks on some random ass day and i'm like "FUCCCKINNNNN"

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my go plan includes rippin cables out the back of my pc and hauling ass

visual pier
near silo
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Pics from the Line Fire

copper crystal
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bladerunner be like

near silo
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Would you guys mind if we jump over to that chat? Just so its easier to send pics?

copper crystal
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naw i'm out its 215. dont poke the bear. smokey was retired and it's ember the fox now

near silo
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Ah, fair enough lol

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This was one hell of an eventful night for me

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oh wait, we are in the same time zone lol

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Holy shit I hadn't realized it was so late

visual pier
near silo
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Hold on there, scalie lmao

visual pier
near silo
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We got a Euro boy, I presume?

visual pier
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Yes ^-^

near silo
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Most of my friends are in the EU lol

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and my boyfriend is stuck in Australia, so far away 😭

copper crystal
visual pier
near silo
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Yeah... Its rough, but hey

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He has plans to come over around June. I wanna take him to his first pride in LA <3

visual pier
visual pier
copper crystal
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i thought it was sonic fandom

near silo
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Oh yeah, furries are insane

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(I say, as a furry lol)

visual pier
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Furries are fun. And basically have been around since civilization ^-^

near silo
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Yessir

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My logo is actually from my old name, which was Scyth Sergal lol

visual pier
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Uuuh a cheese

near silo
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Then I rebranded when I turned like 15/16 to Sytan, cause I discovered I was a Satanist (no I do not worship the devil), and I wanted to keep my logo lmfao

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Origin stories lol

near silo
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My sona back then was a sergal felkin hybrid

visual pier
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But I mean could Scyth not still work. Werent they like nordic (pagan to you) riders ^-^

near silo
visual pier
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Ah xD

near silo
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I've loved my re-brand. Feels proper

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My alt accoutn is still called ScythSergal2 lol

visual pier
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You put the gen Y in Satan?

near silo
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I'm gen Z lmao

visual pier
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Me too :D
Oldest gen z year

near silo
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I just turned 21 last month, so not quite there lol

visual pier
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So in your teens when corona hit :(

near silo
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Yeaahhh

visual pier
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I am sorry you had to go through that

near silo
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Missed my Junior year

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it was hell yeah

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I DID at least get my prom, thankfully

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But yeah, that was a hell of a time

wild forge
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How can I fix this issue (I'm still quite new to open source ai in general and don't know how to solve the issue): ComfyUI

GroundingDinoSAMSegment (segment anything)
Expected all tensors to be on the same device, but found at least two devices, cuda:0 and cpu! (when checking argument for argument mat2 in method wrapper_CUDA_mm)

near silo
visual pier
visual pier
near silo
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A1111 is prettyyy far out of support now days

visual pier
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But it still works very well :D

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And there is no easier interface. Especially with hires fix

near silo
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Yeah, lots of people still use it

visual pier
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With other UI I first have to jump through hoops just to restore two pass text2img

near silo
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A1111 is a good starting block, but I think most go to comfy after they wanna do some more advanced things

visual pier
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Idk about the use cases tho :D
Especially someone close to UX/ UI design

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Like is it actually worth the effort?

finite cloak
visual pier
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Yesh

finite cloak
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extremely easy, great ui/ux, very easy to do highres fix

visual pier
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And I use it for one specific workflow I cant do in A1111 but dont bother otherwise :D

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I mean its great UI compared to comfy. Because Comfy barely counts as a UI to me at all :D
But other than that you can do like 90% of the stuff I do in A1111

finite cloak
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(if that's what you mean by that?)

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(if not that, then, just, generally: why not use Swarm?)

visual pier
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Because like fur gets fluffier and stuff

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But mooost of the time I dont even use that

finite cloak
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the Refine/Upscale param group in swarm can be used to do two pass with two different models pretty easily

visual pier
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Because as with all 2 pass thingies the original image gets weirder

visual pier
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But like. I dont need that often, and A1111 can do two pass easier. Like from a UX experience. Because its more of a finished UI

finite cloak
visual pier
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But I wanted to :D

finite cloak
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??? you can't say "auto is easier" and also "I wanted to do it harder" at the same time

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do you want it easier, or do you want it custom?

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in both cases Swarm is the better answer

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but you have to pick the question first

visual pier
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Yeah I can. Auto is easier in general. For whacky stuff I get out Swarm

finite cloak
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In swarm it is very easy to do two pass with different models like you want

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no need for custom workflows or anything. you just click refiner, click the model you want, and optionally fiddle other settings, and go

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you can even save a preset of specific settings for this with again just a few clicks

visual pier
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But like in 90% of the cases I dont need that :D
I just need a UI I can use well and some basic hires fixin

finite cloak
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swarm is easier for all the normal cases too

visual pier
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I mean... I have to disagree. At least with the version I last used

finite cloak
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give me specific examples