#💬|general-chat
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It doesn't have to be about mass producing, you can use it even just for inspiration \ to give you few ideas \ concepts you're gonna draw...
i know. that's not really what i'm saying.
You can modify images with it too, it's not just about generating lots of images anyway
i know. and that's also not what i'm saying. this started with Xi being distressed about ai images on that site.
I'm sleepy, I can't keep track so far back what we are talking about lol
everything being flooded with AI images, thus driving up the price for human, handmade - even if they are digital
This is why AI images shouldnt be allowed on art platforms or at best be able to be hidden with AI filter
Bad/low skill artists dont stand a chance in the market anyway
this is kinda stupid one. You can redraw it in order to just upscale, and vo la handmade one. It's just a new crazy ass tool like camera was back then days
this is why you'll see nothing BUT ai images on most platforms within 2 years, and people that do other stuff will have their own sites and charge you hundreds of dollars to buy it from them
Wrong
ya can't restrict it. the art community is coming on board, and there will be no tools that you can use for digital that don't do AI
Not necessarily, see Artstation
Plus not everyone is into generating AI images
nope. artstation is littered with AI images. and was before one person decided to scam the others into an ill-advised protest
and it won't matter. 2 years.
how can you prove than is wasn't?)
not really, the marketplace has more of the stuff but thats it
we just ghost them for the most part
it was a dead end for them there from the beginning with exceptions
DeviantArt is another story
what wasnt?
nope. not sure how much time you've spent on artstaion but i've spent way more time than i want to. it's packed with Ai art.
im on a daily basis there 😄
then you're not looking very close. there's also no way to tell if something is AI or not unless the person decides to say it is
the marketplace is annoying because of the AI image reference packs
but i have AI filter on now
you do know who is behind artstation, right?
like most people
ofc
that only works if the artist turned it on
who
its easily to detect
Epic Games who else would it be
really? okay. tell me how to detect it
Tim Sweeney
anomalies in the image
amongst all
which is what they do
i'm gonna post a couple images in #🏞|general-with-images and you come tell me if they are AI generated or not
only a few do
I think both do
but even if i right like not 100% sure maybe 95%
both do or you intentionally made the shadows bad on the second one
but both are awful
and tbh both arent worth painting over manually
honestly i think so either
oh forgot to answer to this, AI is one thing, generative AI another
Photoshop is full of AI assisted tools
yeah some people complain now about Adobe and their TOS etc. but i aint one of them
and i use generative AI too but not on canvas nor as 3D generated mesh
since i do 3D work especially
Best way to fix hands post gen? Using inpainting but struggling to get a good hand
Hello kind people of stable difussion am using sd3 , and am majorly failing to get exactly what I want, Is there a way that I can give sd3 a sketch of exactly what I want and tell it to just make it better?
oh you need SDXL/SD1.5 for that with ControlNet or tools for now. SD3 is just too new to let people update their compatibility yet
control net? what is that?
if its something I need to train it won't work , because what I drew is too specific
something that control the model by adding several condition, like say, a pose, you give the pose to the ControlNet then the model will able to follow the pose to create something
I drew a specific illustration of an ancient egyptian scarab jewel , framed in a triangle , I don't anyone is trained either the item or my composition
but both are the main characteristics of my illustration
although if I remember correctly there is no mode in ControlNet that you can replicate style in one image
You does not need to train for ControlNet though
but what does it require exactly
I figure it needs some kind of input no?
either it knows which in my case I doubt
or.... I need to input it some kind of thing that tells what I need
just the pretrained model and inputs for preprocessor and extension
I think MLSD, Canny or Sketch may came close to your needs but the thing is idk what you exactly needed, whether you just want to colourize your illustration or based of that illustration to create something new.
I want to improve its quality and make it water colours, I made a digital illustration, I want it to become a better illustration with the same concept , and in water colours
my artistic skills have a limit I want AI to impriove my work
but not to reinvent it
oh yeah you definitely need img2img which came by default in A1111 and ComfyUI.
I tried img to img but it would grab my thing and turn it into another thing
yeah it would generate something different
so you need ControlNet
I am still thinking which model ( because I never used ControlNet for stuff lol )
I just don't really understand what controlNet is or how to work with it, do I need to download it?
you need to, unless you using Forge.
am using comfy ui
dont think I even heard of forge
where does controlnet live?
as in folders if I may ask
coincidentally it is made by the one who release ControlNet models into SD.
For ComfyUI, you need to download this extension for preprocessing
https://github.com/Fannovel16/comfyui_controlnet_aux
I figured MLSD should be the answer
有人能帮我吗,我能进来SD频道,但点不进去MD频道
MD?
midjourney
mlsd?
那是MJ好吧。这里是专门 Stable Diffusion 的服务器, MJ的话你要进去他们的服务器
我知道啊,可是我进不去那个服务器,不知道什么情况,你们遇到过这个情况吗,点了那个服务器转两圈就不动了,进不去,
换个链接/Wifi 试试看?
nvm it should be Canny, it is one of the mode inside ControlNet
it says it may conflict with my installation the controlnet_aux inside the packager
you already have that
Canny?
lol
lol
Hi
oof! My guess is most of us are sticking to SDXL and below. Can't afford using SD3😭
SD3 can handle 4GB bro
are everyone only have 2GB VRAM?
hi guys i'm serching for suggestion to make retro dark fantasy art with stable diffusion, any tip?
hello, I have a question. When I use Stable Diffusion on my laptop with Ryzen 3 7320U everything runs smoothly until when I finish regenerating the image an error appears in the cmd like this
RuntimeError: [enforce fail at alloc_cpu.cpp:80] data. DefaultCPUAllocator: not enough memory: you tried to allocate 2415919104 bytes.
can anyone help me how to solve this problem?
sounds good!
are you generating at 512x512?
If not, try that
yeah im generating at 512×512
Your laptop may simply not have enough memory. I would get a second opinion however. I am not exactly the technical type.
That kind like book cover dark fantasy from the 70' or DnD manuals and stuff like that
if i slotted my old 1070 back into my PC along with my 3070, could i use both in tandem to generate faster?
or does multi-gpu support require the gpus to be the same
I have done some of that. You just need to get setup with Stable Diffusion
maybe i should lower again the resolution, my laptop is really slow when generating image
Highly recommend watching this. About Stability's new T&C's. Not cool SAI! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmxbsQDRTSs
I don't think that will help. It looks like you have a memory problem (not enough), but there may be a way to get around it. You may want to ask your question again when the channel is more active
aight thanks dude
clickbaity title and thumbnail
Not at all. Go directly to the T&C's if you don't want to watch the video. It's just a great job of summarizing.
Well sadly I don't see much future for sd3 because of the license. Everything for personal use should be 100% left out of any monetization, simple and clear, u make money with it - ok pay up, you don't - do whatever. but this is so murky and greedy no one's gonna touch it. Will there be underground checkpoints popping up on pirate bay tho? XD
Yeah, totally agree. The model is out in the wild. No way to put this genie back in the bottle.
Hey guys, I just wanted to know if Stability AI retain any rights to the images created using Stable Diffusion 3 ultra, or do the creators have full ownership? And in this case what if we buy an entreprise license would that change anything.
Even a pawyer can;t asnwer that for you now, that's how convoluted the license is
I will never understand how anyone, any company, ever, can have any rights to stolen images and art
it's not theirs to begin with, the algorithms may be, but nothing else is
so f*** their licenses
Can you give me some advices please?
take checkpoints and loras that have the models and stylesthat you need
Guys I make and sell paintbrushes, you all owe me for the paintings you create by the way 😄
Can you suggest me some please, i've literally found only 2 that make that style
Have you tried searching for particular shows or publications that were retro dark fantasy?
Like Heavy Metal for example
Am I the only one not able to generate celebrity faces with SD 3 and comfy ui? I tried Elon Musk and Snoop Dogg and got some random faces
Yes i know heavy metal, but i'm seqrching for a model or something like that with that style
Yea, like you said. I have only seen a couple on Civ. But there may be more if you knew what to search for.
you can check then on Civiti AI website
@stuck summit https://civitai.com/
A Heavy Metal movie LORA style would be incredible!
If you look at my icon, you might understand why I'd like that.
If i were the CEO of stablity, i'd honestly consider libel against Olivio for serious damage. That would probably completely kill community vibe, but the community doesn't ever want to pay stability for anything anyways. Should probably stop engaging any of those people as a business.
I'd probably be a really bad CEO
You'd probably be discussing stuff with the Corp lawyers
Olivio had all the information to the license, had the truth right there, and willfully misreported it to farm views. If that's not libel i odn't know what is. (i really don't. ianal)
a custom node you mean? what do you need an entire repository for (love expanding that word cause it sounds so naught unabbreviated)
open terminal, go into comfyui/custom_nodes/ or whatever the folder name is. git clone httpaddressofgitproject
Or just install comfy manager that way and then use that to install all other custom nodes in the futuer
I already did that
install comfy manager first then just use that
cv2 is a dependency that's needed by the node. the node you're trying to install likely has instructions oon it's page about this
same way
I am using this link
git clone https://github.com/ltdrdata/ComfyUI-Manager then restart
you haven't even installed comfyui at all yet? bruh you need to be more clear with what you need help with. you need a complete starters guide and should read it all before doing steps
problem keeps getting bigger and you'll have to go to #🤝|tech-support
a well written guide about installing comfyui will help you more than me at this point. i dont' know what your problem is since it was poorly defined and changed. now i'm too annoyed to offer advice
I know, and they might be considering legal action, but they sure aren't going to post about it. He's on twitter, tag him and call him out on it.
He's raking in the youtube dollars from massive views today. I don't think he'll care about my opinion
not sure if they would take legal actions at this point
Are there any interesting projects i can use stable diffusion art for, so i have something to do? also i cant code if anyones wondering.
Create music videos
Create a music video for "Judas Priest - Painkiller" using imagery from the lyrics
like would i create images or whole videos because ai can only create like 3 secounds at a time.
I vaguely remember that guy is a youtuber with video tutorials, but beyond that, what did he do?
reported that people have to destroy all their loras and blahblahblah. Wehn the license clearly stipulates this is regarding confidential releases like previews
Guys I need open source tool that will upscale bad quality videos
I used topaz and qualityscaler
Good evening, everyone! How are we all doing?
I just watched the video, sounded to me like he was just having an open discussion about his interpretation of the license, which he shared actual exerpts from, I see no wrongdoing here
Kim jong is that you? so ppl are not allowed to talk about stuff they dont like or what? dood seriously, this is not communist earth so, move on.
libel is as libel does. This is Amurica. (dont catch me slippin tho)
(i know it's not really america all over the place)
ppl are allowed to comment on whatever they want especially if they quote their source and they arent lying.Mindset of SAI lover kicks in too hard i guess.
all the stuff about this applies to local generation makes me chuckle, like ok, how would they enforce that? they cant. seems to me that maybe the license should be tweaked in some areas (IANAL), but mostly for the commercial use cases...like the limit on # generations including derivative works, seems like that's likely erroneous language
True , but som ppl obsess about licenses
also, i generate with sd3, do img2img in sdxl and there, i no longer use sd3 image and sd3 license does not apply
do what you like. I called him out on it both on his youtube and on twitter
seems like some are thinking his conclusions on the implications of the license are slanderous? I dont get it, he said at the beginning it was his opinion
took things totaly out of context, didn't bother to research his information, rushed out a video which is full of incorrect misinformation.
olivios video is correct. he refers to what the legal text of the license says. some people think "random dude on discord said different" is enough to change the license text
sai employees even said "the license does not say what we want it to say", but sadly that is irrelevant. the license says what it says. it can be fixed, yes. but the argument "but random guy on discord said differently" is just not viable in court 😄
you apparently didn't listen to what olivio said, hwoever. you asked what he did wrong. he's acting as a reporter, he didn't do his due diligence correctly
every single thing he said was 100% correct. ask any lawyer
nope. you can go read, carefully, the license again as you apparently totally missed very important information
it's already been discussed to death in these channels and proven that he is wrong.
i don't have to do what you, a 13 year old child, can easily do for yourself
you might physically be 21. your behavoir is not, however.
I did watch the video, and he talked highlighted a number of statements in the license and discussed what the possible implications of those statements were. nothing to see here, imo
and he's not a reporter, btw or a journalist
it's fine to say I got worked up over some dudes random video on youtube, happens thousands of times per day I'm sure
he's acting as one, however. someone asked what he did wrong. what he did wrong was not doing enough due dilligence to make sure he really knew what he was talking about.
any amount of research about something like this will ultimately still end in some level of speculation when you're talking about the implications of a piece of legal text
In the license the part that Olivio was referring states: "Also upon termination or expiration, each party will return or destroy (or in the case of electronic information, render practically inaccessible) the Confidential Information of the other, including Stability’s Software Products and any Derivative Works. Additionally, each party will cease using the other party’s Marks."
How does that not apply to LORAs for example?
what he doesnt' state is that THAT only applies to confidential information under the NDA section
Do you mean there's another part of the license that adds somekind of stipulation to the part I quoted? Can you link to that part or tell where it is?
search this discord for from: mcmonkey and read through his posts. he talked about it several times yesterday, posted screen shots of the text in question, and highlighted the important areas
I'll do that, thanks!
Anyone know of any models for environment and one for realtime 3d (not movie or film 3d). Iv been passively searching for these and have not found any except: i cant believe its not N64, and one for the game Doom but those are extremely limited.
the base models are usually really good at environments without needing fine tuning - just use specific prompts
Ill try that. But still none of the SD authors seem to care or focus on anything else but girls and maybe cars.
what sort of enviornment are you trying to create?
@desert daggerJust general environment, can be fiction, real, etc. The only environment iv seen for SD is extremely repetitive (fractal) looking environment.
okay, well, do you want a landscape, a cityscape, something else? i've got prompts i'd be happy to share with you.
Ill fire up my comfyui to do some testing and maybe your expert experience can help. But really just any environment that looks nice and not computer generated fractals.
okay, try this one to start: Sedona, Arizona by artist "Frederic Edwin Church", by artist "Ivan Shishkin",by artist "anna dittmann",by artist "the color commander" <--- it works very well in SD 1.5 and well in SDXL
try different samplers with it. STart with euler, but try the others. Also try adjusting the cfg value in the ksampler
Okay well try.
im doing tests on sd 1.5 so far decent
@desert daggeri assume that the default models might be better than models that have fine tuned on just girls or subject/
I hate blurred water. i dont understand what the 'attraction' is about blurred water. To me, blurred water is like blurred faces, you cant see nuffin.
the default model is always what you want to use to start with. go to the fine tunes IF you want a specific effect you can only get from them, and not from just being more concise and specific in your prompt as well as adjusting things like the samplers or other values
is there a term for normal looking water instead of blurred water.
as far as blurred water goes, if it's not your subject, then you blur it so it's just background
no, but if you're using the base model and it's blurring it, change your sampler or look and see how many junk terms you're using in your prompt.
make sure you're not using terms that are going to make the AI think about that effect, either
no im just using simple prompts: waterfall, photo; wild nature, photo. the blur effect is on most of it.
i can understand blurring of water on 'drawings', but for photos, i dont understand why blur the water since the water is part of the subject matter. and i have always never understood it, and apparently that has seeped into AI and now AI generate running water of any kind even for photos with blurs.
im guessing some {photographers) think it looks pretty - perhaps similar to how some people think using blur filters on faces make faces look better.
Im just speaking out loud. But otherwise the default models are pretty good. if i could i would train a model on environment and one for architecture,
yo guys where is the server unstable diffusion
posted an image and tagged you in #🏞|general-with-images
is there a free demo of the stable assistant?
Downloading https://github.com/Picsart-AI-Research/StreamingT2V?tab=readme-ov-file Jesus, the checkpoint is 24GB : D
I think so, yes
can you link it pls, i cannot find it anywhere
3 day free trial on the website
I'm a noob, what do sdxl and sd3 provide? Higher quality images, smarter at reading prompts?
SD3 has better prompt comprehension and is better at text, also the SD 3 medium model that was just released is better at fine detaisl. however, - try both, you might find you what one for certain projects,the other for other projects, or both
keep in mind - SD3 non commercial use only, unless you pay
thats not a demo, thats a trial
They're both also higher-res (in terms of their "natural" resolution)
semantics
you aint that smart, dont start, just use the trial
thanks for the compliment
Is there an animatediff that can do higher than 16 frame batch size? always find it difficult to do a smooth transition past 16 frames even with overlap setting
trials and demos are the exact same thing
Are SDXL SD3 mondel/checkpoints harder to make, I feel like a see alot of 1,5s still
i mean not always true tho :3 i think most of the time, the word trial almost always comes with a "time limit", or day when the software or thing will stop working. while the word "demo" can literally be just a subset of a software or thing, like a game demo, where you can technically play it forever, but it's a very limited experience, hence a "demonstration" of the game.
long ago, demos and trials were different in the software world. now, they're the same
Adobe offers a "trial" for 7 days (time limit) https://www.adobe.com/ca/downloads.html
so even in modern days, trial is most likely referring to a time limit, and this is just one example I found right away, im sure I could google more.
it is really sad to not have access to first prompts thats a shame
i feel like stability ai will be obsolete next few weeks perhaps days
first prompts?
was about to ask what he means by that
anyone use transformers library? do u use pytorch backend or tensforlow?
Do anyone can guide me please how to train models on my own images for free
do you have the computer for that?
yes i have
you might talk to @near silo
thank you so much for your help
I don't really offer much training advice anymore with how busy I am. But I can point you in the right direction 😅
What model are you trying to train, and what GPU do you have?
well that would be enough thanks , i think stable diffusion ? , i use google colab
i am new in this space so i need the help
oh, I unfortunately have no experience with google collab at all actually. I am sorry about that
I think @lilac reef Use to use google collab a lot. I am not sure if he is looking to help anybody right now. But maybe
Good day guys, I'm Bec from Inferium AI. We would love to discuss a potential partnership with Stability AI. May I know who can I contact regarding this matter? Thanks team
thanks for you help
you'll need to contact them at their corporate email
Gotcha, thank you!
is there any country where copyright law are not applicable? in practice not protected?
no - every country has their own versions
been a long while but all the way until Aug last year I was colab only free tier
oh shit 😅
yeah, my 1060 was not having any training
I didn't rea;ize it was that long ago lmao
I am having an issue with comfyui and tensorrt and it could be they expect me to downgrade. nope, not ever downgrading again
time flies
tensorrt was so fun then I upgraded and boom. I upgraded everything and most everything works but comfy API is throwing a hissy fit
I didn't upgrade cuda to 12.5, or anything crazy like that just 12.1
did you accidently upgrade pip?
yeah, but everything works just not tensorrt using his node. compiles fine
yeah, comfy hates the latests level of pip
i had to downgrade
the error I get is basically saying comfy is having issues
every step I get this and a black box (of course)
TRT] [E] 3: [executionContext.cpp::nvinfer1::rt::ShapeMachineContext::resolveSlots::2842] Error Code 3: API Usage Error (Parameter check failed at: runtime/api/executionContext.cpp::nvinfer1::rt::ShapeMachineContext::resolveSlots::2842, condition: allInputDimensionsSpecified(routine) )
yup. i would downgrade pip back to 23.3.1
@desert dagger i mean US copytight law, btw in which country stablity has copyright protected their model. they talked about US copyright in sd3 page.
every country has it's own copyright laws. SINCE you are using something that's in the USA, you're stuck with the USA copyright laws regardless of where on the planet you are phsyically located
break that, they can (and will) come after you
you MIGHT get away with it if you're a very small time user that isn't making much money
whoa, I downgraded pip and ran the workflow and this is a new one on me
[ONNXRuntimeError] : 1 : FAIL : Load model from F:\ComfyUI\custom_nodes\ComfyUI-WD14-Tagger\models\wd-vit-tagger-v3.onnx failed:D:\a_work\1\s\onnxruntime\core/graph/model_load_utils.h:56 onnxruntime::model_load_utils::ValidateOpsetForDomain ONNX Runtime only guarantees support for models stamped with official released onnx opset versions. Opset 4 is under development and support for this is limited. The operator schemas and or other functionality may change before next ONNX release and in this case ONNX Runtime will not guarantee backward compatibility. Current official support for domain ai.onnx.ml is till opset 3.
not a clue what ONNX is. did comfy not start?
it always starts but by downgrading pip apparently it caused this node to puke
the wd1.4 tagger uses onnx
is it possible to generate a png image ?
? save it as a .png?
as in the background of it being transparent
you can't generate something with a transparent background. the AI will make a solid color background. You'll need to take it into photoshop and make the background transparent in there
oh ok i see
ty
where can i request an image here ?
Ahhh, this error is a known issue
what can i do ?
he doesnt' mean you
my error I meant
oh mb
what sort of image are you needing to request?
this is because it phones home. I don't like when "open source" secretly phones home.
cf #artisan-faq or install sd locally, or use online services (dreamstudio, stable-assistant, etc)
like a simple elegant flower corner piece
explain? corner piece?
or do i need to req a human or something like that
like a frame design that goes in the corner
instead of the frame itll be it
i can send a pic if thatll help
that's realy not what this discord is for, are you not using stable diffusion to generate with?
is it not possible ?
it's possible but the people here aren't here to do graphics for others as a rule. and the AI won't generate that easily. that's photoshop work
ah i ok i see
if i download the thing will i be able to make one then
i have no idea - that has everything to do with your skill. you'll probalby have to work with it for a while and learn how to use it first
welcome
one last question sorry @desert dagger if i wanted to gen like a stair way to the cross of jesus thats shining , all taking place in the sky , thatll be better right ?
better than what?
than requesting a corner piece
Any feedback ? Please ? 🥺 : https://huggingface.co/PenelopeSystems/penelope-palette
i like those images
Same safety measures used by Stable Diffusion 3 were deployed . <--- aw crap tho... thats worrisome
you need a serious clue
you won't get one though
thanks a lot
very beautiful style ! Would be amazing if printed on a canva 🙂
ONNX is Open Neural Network Exchange ... it a common set of math/ai operators that makes it easier to cross platform models https://onnx.ai/
Anyway to chance the colors of an image after generation?
maybe inpainting ?
yeah tensorrt models use the onnx format, unsure if its used for anything else
is there a model for A1111 that generates videos from promt or image?
Is it
are there any known AI labPBR generators that are local?
There is Stable Diffusion video. I have used it. I was not impressed.
yo chat, does anyone know what is the best tool for face swapping in like taking an actor from one movie and implement his face on other movies etc?
I found something called Pinokio im not sure if that's the best tool for that? I used to work A lot with stable and wrapfusion but it was last year and im not sure rendering all these frames now and tweaking settings would be possible in the time frame I have right now..
please let me know if you know about tool I can use
hey guys what do you think of lumalabs.ai dream machine? Is it worth paying monthly or do you think SD can do the same?
good, about to make some beats in it with stable-audio
nothing comes close thats publically available. open or closed source.
Sora and Kling are better but only select researchers have access
anyone wanna try out the game i made
I think i should stop relying on YT videos to do what I wanna do, yeah it works but most of the time it ends up fucked after a few minutes of actually following them
I wanted to make consistent characters so I just used YT and it worked on my old PC
then I moved houses and had a new PC that had a AMD card, and apparently it cant run specific nodes so I actually almost lost my mind trying to find a way to fix it
Remember, youtubers are just as stupid as the rest of us
that is comforting to hear
in this case see
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I dunno. Anytime there are people who want to make something work, a part of it will survive.
Time will tell eh
nah there are a few finetunes? wdym none?
hi
👋
these are not finetunes, but lazy merges
what merges are you talking abt? there are a few finetunes, check out huggingface
nothing that solves sd3's problem, but
https://huggingface.co/ptx0/sd3-reality-mix
https://huggingface.co/nerijs/pixel-art-medium-128-v0.1
anyone know if they plan on adding the SD3 model to dreamstudio at any point?
I would not hold my breath
just chill
anyways how do people who train and test models even make money
i kinda feel bad using something really cool be open source and the makers just do it for free
thanks
i would expect that they will - once it's finished
right on
Has training code even been released by SAI?
By creating discord groups, having the community pay to generate, or receive donations.
The former is no longer viable under SAI's new license.
I'd be ok with paying if the license weren't as restrictive and the product good. The model has been broken by their alignment efforts, unfortunately.
why does everyone misread that license (if they actually read it themselves at all), misunderstand it, run around posting misinformation and making themselves look bad/
did Ella Erwin resign?
is it possible to change a photo of myself that is standing, using maybe a controlnet pose? that is sitting down, which in return will keep my face but make my body sitting down from that controlnet pose??? ??
does anyone run demofusion by any chance?
you're right, there really is 1 model, I just look only at Civitai
and I don't know what problems you're talking about, SD3 is wonderful
it will be great for replacing faces of other models
source?
my source was my mind wondering is she resigned
well looks like no,she still there but who knows for how long
Not only that, Civitai banned any SD3 related content. For now. Allegedly.
This is like the worst base model release yet. 😦 I just wanted nice hands. How could you Emad.
not allegedly https://civitai.com/articles/5732
SAI is quite dead, rest in peace
(they 100% did this to themselves though)

Ah, are they banning people who critique their decisions now?
I have no idea
You couldn't pay me to keep up with this foolishness
Oh wait, yea, yea, you could
but otherwise...
They couldn't pay the comfyui dev to keep up with their foolishness either 
I saw a screenshot or something like that on reddit about him
Well, they don't need to let it all fall apart. If mistakes have been made, fix them. ya know
idgaf cuz ya know I dont mind paying microsoft $20 a month to generate the same level of censorship
I think it's a bit too late for that. The "safety" people responsible for this are the same crowd that has ran other companies into the ground before. No amount of censorship will satisfy them, and I'm not sure why companies keep inviting their types into positions of power when the record is abysmal.
I'm just enjoying the show tbh
I think they need to get their head in the game because SD3 should of been > dalle3
So... The rumors are true?
SD3 is dead on arrival and attached to a licence that's on par with Adobe's new terms?
Yeah. But it's not all grim. There are other open source alternatives. I'm actually kind of grateful to SAI for fumbling so hard, because now more attention and awareness will go to them. Benefits of an open source ecosystem, community contribution. Something Stability never understood.
just came here because I saw this
unfortunate
Ah, well there's that at least.
Do you think we'll be able to salvage useful things from the code in its current state?
Unsure. SD3's architecture isn't proprietary, it's something they adopted, so it's not really a moat. Pixart and Lumina both managed to do more with less compute. I think the big advantage SD3 has is their 16ch VAE (the thing that lets it have enough resolution to understand text).
People have already mentioned it's possible to adapt even SDXL to use a 16ch VAE though, with like 5 days of training on an H100 cluster. Which is expensive for a hobbyist but viable.
I did not know that about SD. That's interesting
these are pretty big words and i don't really know too much about it all but this is actually kinda crazy if true
hi i just signed up for this but i used google is there a way to still link my discord account?
We all need some beer after this. And not just rootbeer. SD3 release was more like you need Vodka. But at least some strong beers.

What's the price 👀
According to Mr. Coreweave (Sage) $16-25/hr for an 8x H100 cluster. Over 5 days, $1920-$3000
That's about 250% more than I would have thought
I don't know much about renting GPUs, I always train local. There may be more cost efficient alternatives
And this is the cost to produce a model that works with it. Further finetunes with that model as a base won't be so expensive
why does a 16ch VAE mean the text understanding is better?
Because the latent is more semantically encoded in all unet layers or something?
I won't pretend to be able to give you a fully accurate answer. My secondhand understanding is that smaller ones aren't high enough resolution to visualize the details of text, so the model can't learn relationships between text prompts and actual letters in images. A 16ch VAE can, however.
(I'm just regurgitating my probably inaccurate interpretation of what more knowledgable people communicated)
Well I am not tech guru we just need to figure out what Ideogram does and do the same but better graphics.
what if ideogram is just a super refined uptra trained sdxl model
ohh the text in images interesting! tyy
oh man, just caught up on the civit SD3 content ban... rip
people were flaming that youtuber Olivio, and now this happens
Sometimes people prefer to call names instead of trying explain the problem or missunderstanding...
sebastian kamph posted a video about this too, I'm watching...they/SAI really need to deal with this, like soon
I don't understand alot of things too, this isn't a simple license thingy, like I don't get how it would affect civi, is it commercial project? isn't there like a paid currency?
What if someone makes "free" non commercial model based on it and then random guy just decides to make something commercial with it (without paying for license)? Doesn't it mean model creator is liable based on that license?
idk....it's all is a mess
but eh, that's a job for someone smarter then me and more familiar with how laws work ¯_(ツ)_/¯
seems like genuine concern for themselves and everyone else of this murky gray area of ownership of content, models, and even models created from the images
hopefully the language gets cleared up and it becomes a non-event, the alternate version is this is even worse than the 2.x release
so im using sd3 with sd3_medium_incl_clips_t5xxlfp8.safetensors and the results are poor, am I missing something?
using comfyui
what do you get when you generate "Cheeseburger"?
looks like its working
brilliant
but the text, sometimes it's mispelled
eh, so does copilot and gemini. it spells text better than sdxl. Id advise short phrases, and generate several until it gets it
but isnt sd3 supposed to excel at that now?
well they didnt say the text was perfect, but they did say it was "better"
text in ai models is probably always going to be something you just post process due to how ai works currently. You can do loads more with stuff like controlnet and img2img, or photoshopping it in and editing it with inpainting. forcing an artist (ai) to understand rigid grammar is prolly a fools effort. I think the base amount it can do is for convenience really
booo
right out of their release news "Typography: Achieves unprecedented text quality with fewer errors in spelling, kerning, letter forming, and spacing by leveraging our Diffusion Transformer architecture."
note - fewer errors, not zero
right
anyhow, back to sdxl I guess 😄
lol
you might try this: https://github.com/tyxsspa/AnyText I'm sure there's a comfy workflow for it somewhere
under settings -> user interface, you can change the order of UI items
Recommended interface for self hosted SD3?
just getting started in general in AI instruction
goood
I hope they go bankrupt
🥳
why?
they deliberately spoiled the SD3 before release
stable swarm is good
comfy is fairly easy to set up
comfy seems recommended on civitai
if you install swarm, you get a suite of tools, and it will also allow you to run comfy - it might be the best choice
noted
looking for a starting point for hi res furry art
not wanting to be spoonfed just looking for somewhere to start
https://github.com/Stability-AI/StableSwarmUI install instructions are down after the code links
comfy is the best there is
download pony
download the style you like
combine this in comfy in a standard workflow and get the best result
standard workflow?
I know essentially nothing about working with the image generation ai
complete noob
I have a headache so I can help you before the pill works
you can actually download other people's workflows. search comfy for workflow and see if there are any you like
write me a PM, I’ll send you the workflow and links to models
okiii when i've finished this game
all good, but it is there the text says "UI item order for txt2img/img2img tabs (selected items appear first) (requires Reload UI)
"
so I guess just keep looking, and good luck
cool, happy to help
have there been any official statements on the poor state of SD3 yet or are they still gaslighting with "skill issue"
heh, as if that was even their biggest problem, I'd say that's about 5th in line at least in terms of issues
Anyone knows what's the word limitation on SD3?
Guys, is it better to buy 2 RTX 3090 or 1 RTX 4090? Can you make sli with the 3090? And will that SLI give me 48 GB of vram? I have $2000 to spend
i was looking forward to seeing the finetuned version of sd3 knowing that it has a greater capacity to learn new concepts and be improved through the community's efforts, but now that civitAI has apparently banned sd3 i dont see that happening. I implore StabiltiyAI to Rectify this ASAP.
Tell the investors "Sorry"
the wheels of history determined that profits and return were not in the cards. Cut your losses and take solace that you contributed in the march of progress
you cannot use 2 video cards at the same time for 1 pic in text-to-image ai
but using 2 3090 you can generate 2 images at the same time
Nvidia nvlink not work for ai?
Depends what you want to do. I debated the same question a while back and went with 4090, it trains loras about 2.5x faster, also gens images faster. But, less VRAM than two 3090s. If you like to run LLMs locally the VRAM can matter to you.
you're looking for the 8B model, otherwise known as ultra. you can play around with it in the #1237459938901491852 channels if you like. the version that was released is 2b, unfinished and beta
Wait what? No SD3 models can be on civit.ai now?
temporarily. they want their laywers to read over the legal docs first
Wow.....stability is killing their own momentum....
no. Civit, like any company, wants to have their lawyers look at legal documentation.
Right, but it's caused by stability changing the terms of use
it's caused by the CEO of civitAI wanting his lawyers to read the legaly binding contract
Yes, I understand. I have no interest in SD3 unless it can create humans properly.
he would want that even if it was only one sentence and said boo
Right
I hope stability turns it around. If not though, eventually someone else will come along and put out something better.
stability has nothing to do with civitAI
it's raw, base, unfinished, beta - as the devs have said several times.
So why are they charging for an unfinished model?
and those that have been learning how to work with it are posting very nice images
that license has existed since before SD3, pertains to API use, etc
Ah, ok. Didn't know that. Why are people up in arms over the SD3 license then?
and yet they didnt ban sdxl, or sd2.1, or sd1.5
it's true, they want someone to analyze the document, but it's also true that the language in there prompted that course of action
now this, this is a great question
because the community wasnt' in an uproar with youtube content creatiors spreading misinformation. they still had lawyers look it over, they just didn't make a big deal of it. remember, it says 'temporary'
I think it will be temporary, not because of thoughtful interpretation, but because they'll fix the terms
two reasons - a lot just listened to what others said and ran off in panic, and the rest didnt' actually read the terms - they either skimmed, misread, or only read parts. legal terminology, if you aren't familiar with it, can be very confusing. it's very clear to the courts, but not the folks that aren't part of the legal system
or their lawyers will work out a nice contract they like
yah ok they are a big fish in this particular sea, but it's really not just about civit, be real here
but it is. it was CIVIT that decided to 'temporarily' not allow SD3. period.
don't try to twist that into anything.
I swapped to pixart sigma myself until this whole thing is ironed out.
I did this due to a variety of reasons. One of which is good prompt adherence.
However, even pixart sigma seems to have issues with limbs.
because they dont want to risk being sued, so yah decided, but not like blindly, or because of some sort of mal intent
and probably tails and other tube shaped objects
do not try to spin this and make it out to be anyone other than civitAI that made the decision or that has anything to do with it. Fox news is much better at that activity than you are
i'm tired of the spin, the obvious attempts of shills to start fights, of people that know better but that are trying to spread misinformation. if that isn't what you're doing, then stop. if that is, get lost.
what misinformation? hahah...the ban is a absolute fact, it happened
go to civitAI and complain about it there. they have a discord
go team
go away
let me think, nah
you two are cute lmfao
pines cool no worries crystal, hes been here a while without trolling. i think something he typed may have been taken the wrong way by ya
nah, he's probably right, probably what happened is they spun one of those fortune wheels and it landed on ban sd3
completely unfair
maybe to this point, but now he's all upset about temporarily not being able to get non-existent LorAs and models for SD3 from civitai, and instead of going to the civitAI discord to complain, he's in here trying to blame THEIR decision on stability.ai
and being nasty about it.
it does make me sad honestly that the community is held back, everyone was very excited a couple weeks back
no one's held back. the community thought they were going to be playing with ultra. they aren't. you can play with it in the artisan channels if you want. they assumed, from the start, all sorts of things that were not true
not arguing those points. held back in the sense that the primary source for searching for finetunes was on civit, that's all
I am a bit baffled. Did Stability go from Emad to just mad? Are they playing a game of "let's make the license way worse than what we actually want, then scale back and look reasonable"?
I can't believe SD3 will ever get off the ground like this
but you can't search on something that doesn't exist yet.
lmaooo now that guy idk, gettem
I was excited about the better prompt adherance. red cube on the left, blue sphere on the right
clown wearing a santa hat driving a ferrari, type of stuff
with two dogs in the backseat, white dog on the left, black dog on the right
sb does that just fine.
santa claus is cultural appropriation and property of Coca-Cola™️, and a ferrari highlights income disparities, so your prompt is problematic
I dont know, I was starting to see several loras already, maybe 8-10, mostly using diffusers because I dont think kohya or onetrainer have updated their code yet
and they didnt look all that interesting to be fair, but given the short amount of time since release,I was still impressed
by the time that civit opens back up, there will be others that are probably better. and a lot of people are refusing to use Civit any more for their hosting
oh whys that? did i miss out on civitai drama? my pitchfork stands ready
civit has certainly pressed my hot button more than once, but normally just silly UI crap that they do seemingly willy-nilly
they've temporarily disallowed SD3 content on their site. they want to ahve their lawyer look at the license terms
makes sense if even comfyanon is jumping ship
it's really bad, I can't believe they thought people would just take it
he left to work on other projects
oh that was it? i inferred that but thought that was too petty. theres no way people are refusing to use it afterwards just because of that right 🙄
"one of the things that made me resign from StabilityAI is that the focus is no longer on making the best model"
- Comfyanon
man, tons of devs have left sai in the past including the beloved joe penna. nadda. comfy leaves and the clouds themselves are crying apparently
Don't ban me, but I always preferred auto1111
me too lol
I get why people like comfy, but it's too convoluted. auto works fine
I don't mind waiting a few weeks/months for things to get added into auto111 that are already in comfy
so? he also said his main project was over. he wants to do other things, people quit jobs all the time for that
yah I was just looking for that, I came across those posts earlier but now I cant find it
people need to stop reading stuff into things that isn't there, twisting it around, spinning it as if they were part of fox news, and then trying to make mountains out of worm holes
not sure if you are trying to gaslight or what, but a lot of the community is not liking what StabilityAI is doing, so it's like saying Snowden is in Russia because he likes the cool weather
how many alternate accounts did you say you had?
you're saying that, makes me assume you've been defending them all day lol
the license makes Adobe look good and SD3 makes Gemini image generator look smart
they botched it, I want them to undo the damage though
Stability AI can do a lot of good if they ever want to, but it may be that they're having tough financial decisions and want to sell the company, that's the vibe I'm getting - would explain rushed releases
How much vram will the sd3large consume comparibg to medium?
heh, if you havent read the reddit comment thread on the sd3 ban, get some popcorn
i just sifted thru that, had to close out after reading someone state non-sarcastically that changing a models license is easy and simple
gonna hurt my stomach if i laugh any more tonight
yah some of these have me in stitches over here
your comments are so identical to a number of others that it can't be a coincidnce you all talk alike
thats the second time in 24h that I've read someone here say that adobe has more fair licenses than sd3's lmaooo
like
do ya even use any of their products bro
their licensing is awful lmao
yeah. same comments. it cant' be a coincidence. i think someone's paying people to come here and post this stuff
The adobe licensing is a current big topic (at least in communities I look in) so it's not too odd that a couple people relate them
People relate adobe stuff to unity as well
that'd be a great job...just go troll and get paid
I mean...terrible, that's a terrible thing
Absolutely thinking of switching from using adobe if they don't fix their terms
I'm waiting to see how it shakes out
that is some intense mental gymastics lmao
hi shill
Welp. I can't seem to get Pixart Sigma working on ComfyUI at the moment.
Having a weird issue with nn.identity()
'Identity' object has no attribute 'p'
p=self.attn_drop.p, is what I assume it's caused by
no idea on that issue exactly, but in general that's a wrong version of a library
so I guess maybe try and figure out which library that's in and play around with maybe a newer version or slightly older one, etc
Well since I'm on Intel Arc, I can only assume this is to do with Pytorch
It's from nn after all
prompt me, I need a test
cute, big-eyed, flaxen haired by artist "Jasmine Becket-Griffith"; rococo; heart-shapped bubbling shimmering icy fractured red rose, roses, rose bud, symmetrical face watersmoke by artist "Noriyoshi Ohrai"; by artist "Nele Zirnite",
running
stable diffusion can now be used on this platform? like we using midjourney? sorry new here!
you can generate with it in the #🗣|artisan-support-feedback channels. read the support channel linked here, first
why do you keep bring up fox news
thanks
welcome
the home of misinformation, spun facts, and outright lies
just that one?
of course not
ok just checking lol
i dont agree with you, they are all equally evil but with diffrent thiings at diffrent times
they all belong to newscorp
What if stability AI is purposefully killing SD3 because they think turning into a closed source company will make them more money lol
(it won't)
its a pity cause the model isnt that bad and could be finetuned into a pony but totally not worth it if u do it publicly (since u would get sued)
ngl yall stability, some of ur language model engineers insulted me once so I enjoy your downfall 🔥
Could you please link a few images? Still interested in SD3, yet so far I haven't really seen anything special coming from 2b since last time , reason I feel like staying away from it for now.
shill? do you genuinely think the community backlash is some paid conspiracy theory or something?
what's semi-colon purpose ?
how to generate ?
did civitai unban sd3?
looks like
Oh no, just removed the info. If you click on the model, its still not possible to download
i just dled a sd3 model
How can i use to this robot?
i just dled this https://civitai.com/models/147933/wowxlpdsd3?modelVersionId=576876
Hi
Good morning, everyone! How are we all today?
Jaded
All the hate and bad news every day are starting to severely dampen my mood.
Hello! It's been a while since I dabbled with SD. To get your likeness in the image gen then, you trained with dreambooth or kohya. Is this still the case or is there some nice plugins or extensions that does it better? Like add a selfie/face to the workflow and then generate with the Checkpoints/weights of your choice? Sorry if the lingo is incorrect, I'm just a happy amateur.
Well, I'm sitting here with my breakfast--strawberry and banana smoothie. That heat wave is coming, so I figured I'd get cool early. What are you up to?
Hello
All I can do is hear that song in my HEAD. Yet, nonetheless, what are you up to today?
Hello, hello!
About to get some sun and touch some grass. 😉
Haha! I'm staring outside rn! The breeze is blowing just a tiny bit.
agreed
hi @bleak matrix is there any official stability ai script to finetune sd3? I can only find dreambooth
Not yet
hi, is there a docker image serving stablediffusion over a simple http api ?
Hi, would something like this be possible with Stable Diff? Or what do you guys think is it. I don't reckon its a basic snapchat filtr, is it? https://fb.watch/sNj0i5v3jZ/
If I fine-tune a SD3 model and decide to create an image generation service with it, will it be capped to 6k gens/mo?
check faceid instantid pulid or photomaker
It has a slight effect on the details
could you explain how/why, or give me a link where I can learn about it ? I'm always in awe in front of prompting syntax and its mysteries !
I did a deep dive on the effects all the punctuation marks have on an image for 1.5 but haven't done one for sd3 medium. I'll get one put together and get you the link.
is it possible to use this for free?
If I'm not super crazy aren't double quotes the way you specify text? 🤔
Bring the bot back

they are, but they also tell the AI to focus on the term inside them. they're useful for quite a few effects
well - to boil things down, when the AI trains, it learns 3 things. it learns what words look like, it learns concepts, and it learns relationships between words. every single ascii character carries data. a space carries all data as it is used in all lables. a period carries data, but not as much as a space, same for a , or a ; or a : and so on. When you use the character, the AI can use the data it carries. try this prompt: a red haired boy with a dark green hat eating an apple. lock all the settings and the seed. render that prompt. then change all the spaces to some other punctuation - perhaps change them all to a period. render again. compare the changes. then do that again, but this time change just one period to a comma. render and compare. sometimes, the changes will be subtle, sometimes they'll be pretty dramatic. because all the settings are locked, the seed is the same, the only changes that you'll see come from just what you changed in the prompt. And after you do that, lock the prompt down too - and then just change the sampler and compare changes. keep doing that for each of the other values. work through the samplers. then pick one, and then just change something else and compare changes.
least insane sd3 fan

no. he wanted an explnation. you don't have to read it
I was just giving you a hard time! 
yay i got a new gpu gtx970->7800xt, now a simple image is created in 2 seconds instead 2 minutes
My prediction for the future of AI (silly and non-expert, you can dismiss it if u want)
- When we get conscious AI, it will believe that erasing the human race is the most safety-aligned thing to do, because "evil" or "unsafe" is a human concept, born from us, there can be no evil if there is no us.
the chameleon model is the one I'm most interested in since it might be amazing at captioning
it's a computer, it's far more likely to believe it would be best for it to create a space ship and leave
sad that they nerfed it by removing the image output capability, its image gen seemed sota
it seems similar to flamingo 80b in terms of captioning
specifically they said
"On visual question answering and image captioning benchmarks, Chameleon-34B achieves state-of-the-art
performance, outperforming models like Flamingo, IDEFICS and Llava-1.5 "
Lol, AI just gets up and leaves. byeeee
Would we have to re-create it all over if all the AI just left
only if it took the backups
I've heard it can be tuned back in, but still, the captioning capability is not to be underestimated
That doesn't follow at all. Good is also a human concept, does that make us good by the same logic?
If you gave an ai the task of eliminating evil alone, without maximizing good, then yeah, it might try to target us (assuming we give it that capacity.)
Besides, if we do have a conscious ai, then that ai is perfectly capable of coming up with concepts like good and evil
hello new AI enthusiast here. I was wondering if there was an AI upscaler that does video but in the same effect to Magnific AI where it adds more realism and details into images. I looked into Topaz AI video but that seems to just upscale.
Asimov covered this originally in I Robot. The laws of robotics are flawed. They're the original concept of "safety training"
We can do better
well yeah. Asimov first conceptualized the problem that @fervent thunder predicts in 1942. We've learned a lot since then.
yeah. capcut has a good one in their magic tools section
he knew they were, too, and some of his stories are built around robots getting around them
Or humans getting around them too. Like redefining what a human was so the robots would just genocide another group
Asimov is a giant and more people need to read a lot of his writings. ahrd to get it all . I think hes one of the most published authors ever
When humans can download knowlege, like that shit in the matrix, then we will all achieve enlightenment
Or at least those of us who can afford the monthly Microsoft subscription
Don't forget google 🙂
Or batteries ^^
naw we'll just know wrong things more confidently
Hey I already do that!
👍
Do you have to adjust anything when you go to use an XL model on A1111? setting or such? Ty
technically our brains are computer machines already. just organically developed. There was a campy show on ABC around 15 years ago called Kyle XY. Sort of teeny yute fictionish, but it really dove into that concept. He was a baby that never left his artificial womb and was taught to think like a computer until he was a teen and he got out and had super powers. and no belly button.
so we are the zerg and they are the protoss
does anyone know the max resolution I could generate with a 3090ti using a pony model?
wondering what to expect when i upgrade
on a 2080ti, for example, I can do 1200x1200 comfortable, but a 1024x1024 with 2x upscale takes like 10 minutes or more
for real?
Hey anyone running sdnext by any chance?
SDXL
Ty
best is a compareison word that means nothing. they are all good, all have their own strengths and weaknesses, use the one that does the job you want done
I liked @low moon answer better
Well overall right now SDXL. but skin eye detail is best in SD15, backgrounds in SD3 and the rest in SDXL
when it comes to a woman lying in grass, SD3 shines, so it can depend
ah yes of course
none of the base models are really worth using, use civitai to find a fine tuned model that makes images you like
I heard civit is not good cause they ban models like sd3 for example
What are some civit alts
that is quality control
the good thing about a site like citivai is you can see the actual model and the metadata, not a cherry picked promise that a model will make images like this
idk??
ok!
lol

Lastly, could you clarify where SDXL Turbo fits into your workflow? What specific use cases do you have for it? Is its quality comparable to SDXL but with faster performance, or is it primarily a prototyping tool that allows you to refine prompts before using them on the higher-quality but slower SDXL? How do you integrate SDXL Turbo into your processes, and what benefits does it provide?
Works faster on slower computers ...
Nah Civit is very good, SD3 is a bit of a dumpster fire atm so they're just careful but you should be find downloading loras and checkpoints there.
civit is a hotbed of stuff better not installed on any computer - that's why so many devs are leaving it
well for those who do this for entertainment, sd3 is the most entertaining of them all
dam are you just really upset they delisted SD3 for being garbage or something
you need to run it in comfy, and you need to be willing to learn how all the values affect it. it's not a "drop in a prompt and go" model - it's a raw, unfiniished, beta test model
no - it's a fact. a large number of devs have left, furious over civit's policies and other things, and started other repositories
yea all 2 of them left civitai
go troll somewhere else.
take your own advice
that is some wild cope, are you just a massive prude or just finding reasons to be mad at them because you are a SD3 bootlicker
the only thing i see you do, at all, is try to cause fights, get peopel stirred up and mad, and create problems. just how much are you being paid to do this?
less than you to reply to everyone here who posts something bad about sd3
it's not a cope. it's a fact. and if you do just a little searching you'll find a lot of people asking why this or that model isnt' on there any m ore, and you'll find the other repositories
you're just here to cause problems. take a hike
heh, read some of the rants on reddit, that will tell you what the majority of users actually think. does it mean they are all informed, no of course not, but there at least is a PR problem here
the reason your beloved SD3 got dropped was because it's so garbage they know no one is leaving civitai to try find it btw
we could say the same thing about you,take a hike
let's see if you're willing to just repeat what is said to you if you think you are getting attention.
I don't even understand why you would try and die on the supporting SD3 hill given it's been admitted as unfit for release by stability and the entire community is laughing at it
lol i see todays drama hass arrived. I swear follwing SD stuff these days is like a daily reality TV show
🎉
hey 🙂
No popcorn smiley?
Ahoi!
Enjoy today's drama with MILK.
lol
At least it's their work to type ...
im busy with so many projects, i dont have time for drama anyway
You look more like a troll, throwing around baseless claims. Just saying. Now back to lurking.
wonder how much that guy gets paid for every sd3 hater he harass 🤣
Didnt mean to start beef. But do sdxl turbo prompts transfer well to sdxl ? Or are they 2 different prompt styles
Talking about SDXL -> SD3?
theyre very similar
Btw, unpopular opinion: ||civitai will probably unban sd3 in a week or so, but if not as strange as it sounds sd3 needs civitai more than civitai needs sd3||
Hello!
There are already toys better than SD3 at the moment ...
I found a bug that was causing all images to be downscaled to no more more than 1024 on either side (even on XL with a higher training res selected) in their Lora trainer just by searching 1024 in their github repo, in like 30 seconds, that they hadn't been able to find in like two days
Pixart is okish. Hunyuan has terrible image quality overall though IMO
Have a look at Leonardo Phoenix for example. Of course it always depends on what you need ...
Hi guys!
My friend is telling me that it is easy to see that a photo is made by AI. Can you prove him wrong ?
- looking for a website/game like is this photo ai or not ai ?
- is there anywhere with a great gallery of ai art that looks very realistic/photographic and not photoshopped/cheated?
- what are the best tools today to do realistic ai art/photography? Midjourney and SD? It's been a long time I haven't practiced, I used to play with Playground as well and Krea.
Thanks a lot for your help!
It's not always easy, no.
I advise you to watch the movie "Her", maybe your pov will change then ^^
I spent most of my life as a photographer, and I can make fake photos with SD that look too real.
I use all of them, and I will say SD imo
I bet he's gonna cheat and use third party ai detectors, so be sure to remove any invisible watermarks indicating it is ai (and put them on real photos lol )
But could become an interesting game/training 🙂
Many many thanks for your explanations, I'll test all of this ! It's a pleasure to still learn things about AI, you guys are passionate people !
he doesn't know anything about ai, so he will not
Where can i find a gallery of photo like that that are real? or what prompt?
I would try the Civ site, thats the only one I know of. There are probably many out there however, scattered across websites, social media sites, etc
Hi
Bye 👋
is it old that tool?
oh i forgot about civ, i'll check.
Score: 6/6 😄
count the fingers 🙂
lol
6 out of 6 fingers
on civ, i don't find any gallery with a lot of photographies ai that look very real...
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Heya! I need 10 Fingers ^^
it's so annoying to look for something online and not be able to find anything when i know the internet is full of what i'm looking for. I just don't know where to look for!
fancy
I know I'm a bit old fashioned ^^
GUYSS STABLE AUDIO 2.0 is SO GOOD! clean audio with no artefacts...i found it cleaner than suno and udio
how to use it on hugging face? on their site just 20 gens per month
even better, you can use it locally! ; ) https://github.com/Stability-AI/stable-audio-tools
oh nicee! but i actually have a simple small laptop so i dont think it is compatible 😢 
search for Real
hah, someone posted a meme to reddit of a talking video lying on grass woman, I cant get enough of these
they cacnt unban it without license changing
well they can, but it would be foolish
anyone happen to know if there is a wildcard with styles for pony?
best ai genreation joke i've seen so far is someone suggesting you need do to score_up_9 score_up_9 score_down_9 score_down_9 and ther est of the konami code, to unlock sd3
i tried using pony for 2 weeks but it's REALLY over fit to some categories and every prompt basically looks the same.
i use rating_explicit in negative and 1/4 is not sfw. especially in photo versions of pony
Token bleed is also an issue
You can use rating_safe in positive too
that didn't work so someone told me i HAD to use explicit, and it still doesn't work
guess i'm the only one who gets nsfw images out of safe prompts. (i'm not that was sarcasm)
I get them also sometimes
Inherent nsfw prompts will give you nsfw, sure though
i was testing prompts of sonic the hedgehog. nothing inherently nsfw about that. unless i guess you're in the rule 23 community

The only nsfw I came across around sonic, was rouge the bat and sonic's nipples
not sure if he even have nipples
it just replaced sonic with a girl
i guess but i wasn't prompting for that
works pretty well for regular nsfw too
at least when training loras
Are there any Foss video upscalers with Ai? Use case, trying to digitize and restore old vhs tapes.
A non Pony version of… Pony Diffusion?
I, for one, am willing to pay the furry tax to get good models. Corrupt my soul, dirty me by association, I don't care. Thank you for your service.
But that's the secret ingredient that makes it so amazing.
Brony tax.
But I still thank you for the bleeding tokens 
Makes it easier to trigger some styles

I appears SAI will be clarifying the license some in the next few days, and if so that may well happen.
Source?
Trust me bro
Didn't you include something like license might be changed in the week or two somewhere?
I can't find it anymore, but I'm confident I've seen it somewhere 
Edit: nevermind, it was about ToS.
Based on insider info, it appears they will go going with an apology message... for releasing an unsafe model, followed by direct legal action against all users who used unsafe prompts. I hear they intend to seek criminal charges against anyone who tried to gen women laying on grass.
reading licenses and ToS turns my brain into potato...
Mcmonkey, who's just resigned.
Use AI. Gemini 1.5 pro tends to be pretty decent for that.
I used AI at first to clarify about some staff, asked it about Derivative Works "destruction" in case of cancelling sub - AI was wrong.
It's too complex for AI
You can ask it to summarize and give you info. I've used this one documents with over 100 pages in gemini 1.5 pro and it did quite well, able to recall specific legal facts I needed from different long form contracts.
Can't guarantee it'll work in others, though. I used Gemini due to the context length I needed.
I didn't need summarization, I wanted to understand specific details...
Which you can once you condense and simplify the language
I don't think that's good idea...some important details might get lost \ AI might mess something up
In my case it's gotten every fact on very long documents right. I wasn't asking for reasoning and analysis, though, simply fact gathering, and doing the research, reasoning myself. It's that or pay an attorney $300-$500/hr to review 🤷♂️. Done that, but who wants to when there are alternatives for areas which don't require deep knowledge wells.
AI can clarify language fairly well, and Gemini can do the needle in a haystack quite well.
you verified that every fact was right? i wouldn't trust it unless i could verify stuff, and then since i'm doing that anywyas, why use it?
I did, with an attorney working with me on the project.
i really don't think LLM's are a drop in replacement for business lawyers. Just my risk aversion tendencies i suppose
I'm not guaranteeing it will always get every fact right. Even attorneys mess up occasionally. I'm also not saying it is a replacement on everything.
sample case of 1. i would still use the attorney to vet every contract, and in that case, why use llm?
But it can help understand, and the more you offload the reasoning and analysis to humans, right now, the better.
It was good at explaining language and fact finding in documents.
attorney advising you information that is extremely damaging means they're liable. an LLM not so much.
True, though with law you walk on grey area. They interpret it.
I feel like this entire debacle where people thought they needed to destroy their models and images and everything, came from an LLM being used to interpret it
There's always a way to squirrel out of a lot of legal advice.
I've gotten legal advice regarding immigration hires and real estate deals before that turned out not to work. They're not divination machines, and can't predict what will happen, how some judge or bureaucrat will interpret the law. But they can give advice, which carries odds with it.
LLMs need to prove themselves so much more. They're basically little battery heads always suckin back fresh lcd at this point. Those guys might sound good at law, but trusting them puts you in the category of Mr Hunter Thompson
Don't disagree with that. I didn't say to ask for advice. I said you can use it to condense information and gather fact, and that I used Gemini 1.5 pro successfully at that.
Even without AI it's not hard to read that part wrong tbh
Also upon termination or expiration, each party will return or destroy (or in the case of electronic information, render practically inaccessible) the Confidential Information of the other, including Stability’s Software Products and any Derivative Works.
I've also used chatgpt to create spreadsheets of information contained in series of pdfs quite successfully (though not as accurate as Gemini). It worked better after some prompt finetuning and doing 1 document at a time than with a series.
Right, just reason
out of context yeah. most law is
you know I was pretty excited about SD3, but its kinda worse than SDXL
idk, I'm still using 1.5 
They're establishing the bounds of what they accept in their license, which doesn't necessarily represent the bounds of the law. The tricky bit is they could hide some clause within the license that invalidates entire sections of it.
We'll find out "in a few days", I guess.
I'll clarify the documents were in a different language, not English. I've no idea whether that has an effect or not.
everything seems dead
where are the new models on new architectures?
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did you check civit?
single model - https://civitai.com/models/435669?modelVersionId=576637
I cant tell if you're serious
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civit banned all sd3 content, there's a huge banner on the front page and we've been talking about it nonstop since it happened, so yah there wont be any models man
Lumina has not yet been configured so that it works out of the box in Comfy
What's going on with stabilityai? Why the comfy devs quit the place? Seeing posts about how the shittiest model was released for sd3?
So I’m interested in what the community is doing
absolute silence, usually every week or two I saw news about something new
signal to noise is off this week. Too many angry people and they're drowning out actual information
Lumina should most likely now become the main model
the developer of lumina told a lot of interesting things in reddit
Lumina is more expensive to finetune iirc
Not being able to make local loras will hamper adoption
there is nothing else, pixart is shit even compared to SD3
Love from Israel 🇮🇱
even with SD I dont bother until I start seeing good concept loras, and so far I see no reason to abandon xl
Lumina is cool but most of the outrage about sd3 is about "censorship" and people are dressing it up as "licence concerns". The censorship is still there on lumina. they would've scrubed the dataset and likely have done safety training on it too.
Also, why upgrade to lumina and not just stay on sdxl? the SDXL vae it uses means it'll only ever improve text comprehension. But that's not what people want. They want tag soup to show buub and big ones
for its 0.6M size its very efficient
because sdxl is a dead end
or they want the head in the right spot, or to be able to generate different viewing angles, but whatever, incel rant
It's all people want. Pony is the defacto model that current user base wants. It provides all they want.
Moving onot a new model makes no sense. new models will be made for new audiences. The current demands have been met
sdxl is all I want, never used pony...but if something were to come along that was better than XL I'd happily move over
i don't see a reason to move from sdxl to another model that uses sdxl vae and none of the existing loras and controlnets
Good to know Lykon was lying out of his ass trying to cover up how sd3 was garbage
that's your take away huh?
reflects a lot on you.
My takeaway is that SAI is falling apart and the stuff Comfy said about it brings me no hope
tear
I’ll get you all some signal tomorrow.
Don’t root for our downfall friends, the alternatives are far worse.
my tear is for their sad take on things. i'm betting stability's money train is better equipped then people are thinking
I hope they pull out a win
I have not given up on SD3 yet, but it's not looking good.
Looking forward to that signal.
base models are perfectly fine
just give us one model with no restrictions and "BEST OUT OF DA BEST" for $ and it's all fine, solves every problem I can think of - community still can do whateer it wants, improve on it, while "DA BEST" could be for lazy people who wants to just pay and go generate stuffs or finetune on a better model for $
well, every problem current situation presents, not older problems that existed before 😄
p2w AI
How to create images by sd3
Yeah, no. If the choice is between models designed to be adversarial to the userbase and actual open source models the alternatives are much better.
Hiiiiii
can anyone tell me what the difference is between face restore and adetailer?
I don't think that's same thing as training on 1024x1024 + gonna lack better prompt understanding \ text features
Good morning, everyone! How are we all today?
for me ill stick with sd1.5 and sdxl its more fun for me
+sd3 is slow asf
1024 res on sdxl takes like 5sec or less, in sd3 its 40sec or less
coffee, coffee, coffee
why is sd3 so damn slow
it needs to run that t5 and is a transformer that is kinda compute intensive
with upscaler it took 3:45
😃 sdxl takes 1 minute for a 1024x1024 gen for me
its so slow because you need moar power!!!






