#💬|general-chat

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desert dagger
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AI is just one more way of mass producing something. and mass produced is cheap and easy, while handmade becomes very expensive and collectable

hasty hornet
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It doesn't have to be about mass producing, you can use it even just for inspiration \ to give you few ideas \ concepts you're gonna draw...

desert dagger
hasty hornet
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You can modify images with it too, it's not just about generating lots of images anyway

desert dagger
hasty hornet
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thinking I'm sleepy, I can't keep track so far back what we are talking about lol

desert dagger
potent spire
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Bad/low skill artists dont stand a chance in the market anyway

tacit oyster
desert dagger
desert dagger
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ya can't restrict it. the art community is coming on board, and there will be no tools that you can use for digital that don't do AI

potent spire
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Plus not everyone is into generating AI images

desert dagger
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and it won't matter. 2 years.

tacit oyster
potent spire
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we just ghost them for the most part

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it was a dead end for them there from the beginning with exceptions

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DeviantArt is another story

potent spire
desert dagger
potent spire
desert dagger
potent spire
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the marketplace is annoying because of the AI image reference packs

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but i have AI filter on now

desert dagger
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you do know who is behind artstation, right?

potent spire
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like most people

desert dagger
desert dagger
potent spire
desert dagger
potent spire
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Tim Sweeney

potent spire
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amongst all

potent spire
desert dagger
desert dagger
tacit oyster
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but even if i right like not 100% sure maybe 95%

potent spire
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but both are awful

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and tbh both arent worth painting over manually

tacit oyster
potent spire
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Photoshop is full of AI assisted tools

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yeah some people complain now about Adobe and their TOS etc. but i aint one of them

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and i use generative AI too but not on canvas nor as 3D generated mesh

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since i do 3D work especially

royal field
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Best way to fix hands post gen? Using inpainting but struggling to get a good hand

proper scroll
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Hello kind people of stable difussion am using sd3 , and am majorly failing to get exactly what I want, Is there a way that I can give sd3 a sketch of exactly what I want and tell it to just make it better?

vale steeple
proper scroll
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if its something I need to train it won't work , because what I drew is too specific

vale steeple
# proper scroll control net? what is that?

something that control the model by adding several condition, like say, a pose, you give the pose to the ControlNet then the model will able to follow the pose to create something

proper scroll
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I drew a specific illustration of an ancient egyptian scarab jewel , framed in a triangle , I don't anyone is trained either the item or my composition

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but both are the main characteristics of my illustration

vale steeple
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although if I remember correctly there is no mode in ControlNet that you can replicate style in one image

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You does not need to train for ControlNet though

proper scroll
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but what does it require exactly

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I figure it needs some kind of input no?

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either it knows which in my case I doubt

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or.... I need to input it some kind of thing that tells what I need

vale steeple
# proper scroll but what does it require exactly

just the pretrained model and inputs for preprocessor and extension

I think MLSD, Canny or Sketch may came close to your needs but the thing is idk what you exactly needed, whether you just want to colourize your illustration or based of that illustration to create something new.

proper scroll
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I want to improve its quality and make it water colours, I made a digital illustration, I want it to become a better illustration with the same concept , and in water colours

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my artistic skills have a limit I want AI to impriove my work

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but not to reinvent it

vale steeple
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oh yeah you definitely need img2img which came by default in A1111 and ComfyUI.

proper scroll
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I tried img to img but it would grab my thing and turn it into another thing

vale steeple
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so you need ControlNet

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I am still thinking which model ( because I never used ControlNet for stuff lol )

proper scroll
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I just don't really understand what controlNet is or how to work with it, do I need to download it?

vale steeple
proper scroll
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am using comfy ui

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dont think I even heard of forge

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where does controlnet live?

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as in folders if I may ask

vale steeple
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I figured MLSD should be the answer

tranquil ruin
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有人能帮我吗,我能进来SD频道,但点不进去MD频道

tranquil ruin
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midjourney

proper scroll
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mlsd?

vale steeple
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那是MJ好吧。这里是专门 Stable Diffusion 的服务器, MJ的话你要进去他们的服务器

tranquil ruin
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我知道啊,可是我进不去那个服务器,不知道什么情况,你们遇到过这个情况吗,点了那个服务器转两圈就不动了,进不去,

vale steeple
proper scroll
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it says it may conflict with my installation the controlnet_aux inside the packager

proper scroll
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Canny?

vale steeple
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lol

median dock
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lol

golden gale
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Hi

abstract bough
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oof! My guess is most of us are sticking to SDXL and below. Can't afford using SD3😭

vale steeple
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are everyone only have 2GB VRAM?

stuck summit
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hi guys i'm serching for suggestion to make retro dark fantasy art with stable diffusion, any tip?

glacial dagger
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hello, I have a question. When I use Stable Diffusion on my laptop with Ryzen 3 7320U everything runs smoothly until when I finish regenerating the image an error appears in the cmd like this

RuntimeError: [enforce fail at alloc_cpu.cpp:80] data. DefaultCPUAllocator: not enough memory: you tried to allocate 2415919104 bytes.

can anyone help me how to solve this problem?

fervent thunder
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If not, try that

glacial dagger
fervent thunder
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Your laptop may simply not have enough memory. I would get a second opinion however. I am not exactly the technical type.

stuck summit
sharp fulcrum
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if i slotted my old 1070 back into my PC along with my 3070, could i use both in tandem to generate faster?
or does multi-gpu support require the gpus to be the same

fervent thunder
glacial dagger
elder plaza
fervent thunder
fervent thunder
elder plaza
low moon
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Well sadly I don't see much future for sd3 because of the license. Everything for personal use should be 100% left out of any monetization, simple and clear, u make money with it - ok pay up, you don't - do whatever. but this is so murky and greedy no one's gonna touch it. Will there be underground checkpoints popping up on pirate bay tho? XD

elder plaza
regal rain
jaunty sinew
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Hey guys, I just wanted to know if Stability AI retain any rights to the images created using Stable Diffusion 3 ultra, or do the creators have full ownership? And in this case what if we buy an entreprise license would that change anything.

low moon
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Even a pawyer can;t asnwer that for you now, that's how convoluted the license is

fervent thunder
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it's not theirs to begin with, the algorithms may be, but nothing else is

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so f*** their licenses

stuck summit
wet grotto
warm yew
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Guys I make and sell paintbrushes, you all owe me for the paintings you create by the way 😄

stuck summit
fervent thunder
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Like Heavy Metal for example

cerulean rivet
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Am I the only one not able to generate celebrity faces with SD 3 and comfy ui? I tried Elon Musk and Snoop Dogg and got some random faces

stuck summit
fervent thunder
wet grotto
verbal osprey
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A Heavy Metal movie LORA style would be incredible!

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If you look at my icon, you might understand why I'd like that.

astral goblet
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If i were the CEO of stablity, i'd honestly consider libel against Olivio for serious damage. That would probably completely kill community vibe, but the community doesn't ever want to pay stability for anything anyways. Should probably stop engaging any of those people as a business.

I'd probably be a really bad CEO

pseudo coyote
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hello

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who can help me with comfy ui

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I need help running a repo within comfy

desert dagger
astral goblet
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Olivio had all the information to the license, had the truth right there, and willfully misreported it to farm views. If that's not libel i odn't know what is. (i really don't. ianal)

astral goblet
pseudo coyote
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yeah a custom node folder

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its giving me an error saying I dont have cv2

astral goblet
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open terminal, go into comfyui/custom_nodes/ or whatever the folder name is. git clone httpaddressofgitproject

Or just install comfy manager that way and then use that to install all other custom nodes in the futuer

pseudo coyote
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I already did that

astral goblet
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install comfy manager first then just use that

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cv2 is a dependency that's needed by the node. the node you're trying to install likely has instructions oon it's page about this

pseudo coyote
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comfy manager?

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how

astral goblet
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same way

pseudo coyote
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I am using this link

astral goblet
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git clone https://github.com/ltdrdata/ComfyUI-Manager then restart

pseudo coyote
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where do I git clone that

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let me re extract the files again on my C drive first

astral goblet
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you haven't even installed comfyui at all yet? bruh you need to be more clear with what you need help with. you need a complete starters guide and should read it all before doing steps

pseudo coyote
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I did

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but I deleted it bcs i thought I messed things up

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so I will do it again

astral goblet
pseudo coyote
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ok now I extracted the comfui ui

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I go to custom nodes folder?

astral goblet
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a well written guide about installing comfyui will help you more than me at this point. i dont' know what your problem is since it was poorly defined and changed. now i'm too annoyed to offer advice

proper scroll
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am having trouble using my control nets

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I recieve abominations

desert dagger
astral goblet
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He's raking in the youtube dollars from massive views today. I don't think he'll care about my opinion

potent spire
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not sure if they would take legal actions at this point

mortal delta
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Are there any interesting projects i can use stable diffusion art for, so i have something to do? also i cant code if anyones wondering.

verbal osprey
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Create a music video for "Judas Priest - Painkiller" using imagery from the lyrics

mortal delta
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like would i create images or whole videos because ai can only create like 3 secounds at a time.

restive robin
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Thoughts?

trail lion
astral goblet
weak kettle
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Guys I need open source tool that will upscale bad quality videos

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I used topaz and qualityscaler

bleak matrix
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Good evening, everyone! How are we all doing?

trail lion
gentle arrow
astral goblet
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libel is as libel does. This is Amurica. (dont catch me slippin tho)

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(i know it's not really america all over the place)

gentle arrow
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ppl are allowed to comment on whatever they want especially if they quote their source and they arent lying.Mindset of SAI lover kicks in too hard i guess.

trail lion
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all the stuff about this applies to local generation makes me chuckle, like ok, how would they enforce that? they cant. seems to me that maybe the license should be tweaked in some areas (IANAL), but mostly for the commercial use cases...like the limit on # generations including derivative works, seems like that's likely erroneous language

gentle arrow
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True , but som ppl obsess about licenses

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also, i generate with sd3, do img2img in sdxl and there, i no longer use sd3 image and sd3 license does not apply

desert dagger
trail lion
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seems like some are thinking his conclusions on the implications of the license are slanderous? I dont get it, he said at the beginning it was his opinion

desert dagger
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took things totaly out of context, didn't bother to research his information, rushed out a video which is full of incorrect misinformation.

sturdy flame
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olivios video is correct. he refers to what the legal text of the license says. some people think "random dude on discord said different" is enough to change the license text

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sai employees even said "the license does not say what we want it to say", but sadly that is irrelevant. the license says what it says. it can be fixed, yes. but the argument "but random guy on discord said differently" is just not viable in court 😄

desert dagger
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you apparently didn't listen to what olivio said, hwoever. you asked what he did wrong. he's acting as a reporter, he didn't do his due diligence correctly

sturdy flame
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every single thing he said was 100% correct. ask any lawyer

desert dagger
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nope. you can go read, carefully, the license again as you apparently totally missed very important information

desert dagger
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i don't have to do what you, a 13 year old child, can easily do for yourself

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you might physically be 21. your behavoir is not, however.

trail lion
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I did watch the video, and he talked highlighted a number of statements in the license and discussed what the possible implications of those statements were. nothing to see here, imo

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and he's not a reporter, btw or a journalist

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it's fine to say I got worked up over some dudes random video on youtube, happens thousands of times per day I'm sure

desert dagger
trail lion
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any amount of research about something like this will ultimately still end in some level of speculation when you're talking about the implications of a piece of legal text

dawn python
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In the license the part that Olivio was referring states: "Also upon termination or expiration, each party will return or destroy (or in the case of electronic information, render practically inaccessible) the Confidential Information of the other, including Stability’s Software Products and any Derivative Works. Additionally, each party will cease using the other party’s Marks."

How does that not apply to LORAs for example?

desert dagger
dawn python
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Do you mean there's another part of the license that adds somekind of stipulation to the part I quoted? Can you link to that part or tell where it is?

desert dagger
dawn python
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I'll do that, thanks!

dawn mulch
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Anyone know of any models for environment and one for realtime 3d (not movie or film 3d). Iv been passively searching for these and have not found any except: i cant believe its not N64, and one for the game Doom but those are extremely limited.

desert dagger
dawn mulch
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Ill try that. But still none of the SD authors seem to care or focus on anything else but girls and maybe cars.

desert dagger
dawn mulch
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@desert daggerJust general environment, can be fiction, real, etc. The only environment iv seen for SD is extremely repetitive (fractal) looking environment.

desert dagger
dawn mulch
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Ill fire up my comfyui to do some testing and maybe your expert experience can help. But really just any environment that looks nice and not computer generated fractals.

desert dagger
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try different samplers with it. STart with euler, but try the others. Also try adjusting the cfg value in the ksampler

dawn mulch
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Okay well try.

dawn mulch
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im doing tests on sd 1.5 so far decent

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@desert daggeri assume that the default models might be better than models that have fine tuned on just girls or subject/

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I hate blurred water. i dont understand what the 'attraction' is about blurred water. To me, blurred water is like blurred faces, you cant see nuffin.

desert dagger
# dawn mulch im doing tests on sd 1.5 so far decent

the default model is always what you want to use to start with. go to the fine tunes IF you want a specific effect you can only get from them, and not from just being more concise and specific in your prompt as well as adjusting things like the samplers or other values

dawn mulch
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is there a term for normal looking water instead of blurred water.

desert dagger
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as far as blurred water goes, if it's not your subject, then you blur it so it's just background

desert dagger
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make sure you're not using terms that are going to make the AI think about that effect, either

dawn mulch
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no im just using simple prompts: waterfall, photo; wild nature, photo. the blur effect is on most of it.
i can understand blurring of water on 'drawings', but for photos, i dont understand why blur the water since the water is part of the subject matter. and i have always never understood it, and apparently that has seeped into AI and now AI generate running water of any kind even for photos with blurs.
im guessing some {photographers) think it looks pretty - perhaps similar to how some people think using blur filters on faces make faces look better.

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Im just speaking out loud. But otherwise the default models are pretty good. if i could i would train a model on environment and one for architecture,

main zenith
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yo guys where is the server unstable diffusion

olive cradle
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is there a free demo of the stable assistant?

spare copper
fervent thunder
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😱

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dizamn

fervent thunder
olive cradle
fervent thunder
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3 day free trial on the website

nova lily
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I'm a noob, what do sdxl and sd3 provide? Higher quality images, smarter at reading prompts?

desert dagger
hasty hornet
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keep in mind - SD3 non commercial use only, unless you pay

olive cradle
subtle badge
fervent thunder
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you aint that smart, dont start, just use the trial

olive cradle
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thanks for the compliment

radiant tusk
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Is there an animatediff that can do higher than 16 frame batch size? always find it difficult to do a smooth transition past 16 frames even with overlap setting

desert dagger
nova lily
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Are SDXL SD3 mondel/checkpoints harder to make, I feel like a see alot of 1,5s still

sage reef
# desert dagger trials and demos are the exact same thing

i mean not always true tho :3 i think most of the time, the word trial almost always comes with a "time limit", or day when the software or thing will stop working. while the word "demo" can literally be just a subset of a software or thing, like a game demo, where you can technically play it forever, but it's a very limited experience, hence a "demonstration" of the game.

desert dagger
sage reef
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Adobe offers a "trial" for 7 days (time limit) https://www.adobe.com/ca/downloads.html
so even in modern days, trial is most likely referring to a time limit, and this is just one example I found right away, im sure I could google more.

molten stone
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it is really sad to not have access to first prompts thats a shame

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i feel like stability ai will be obsolete next few weeks perhaps days

sage reef
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was about to ask what he means by that

feral pike
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anyone use transformers library? do u use pytorch backend or tensforlow?

scarlet sail
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Do anyone can guide me please how to train models on my own images for free

desert dagger
scarlet sail
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yes i have

desert dagger
scarlet sail
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thank you so much for your help

near silo
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Hmm?

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oh

scarlet sail
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hey hi

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Sytan

near silo
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I don't really offer much training advice anymore with how busy I am. But I can point you in the right direction 😅

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What model are you trying to train, and what GPU do you have?

scarlet sail
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well that would be enough thanks , i think stable diffusion ? , i use google colab

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i am new in this space so i need the help

near silo
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oh, I unfortunately have no experience with google collab at all actually. I am sorry about that

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I think @lilac reef Use to use google collab a lot. I am not sure if he is looking to help anybody right now. But maybe

meager inlet
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Good day guys, I'm Bec from Inferium AI. We would love to discuss a potential partnership with Stability AI. May I know who can I contact regarding this matter? Thanks team

scarlet sail
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thanks for you help

desert dagger
meager inlet
tranquil delta
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is there any country where copyright law are not applicable? in practice not protected?

desert dagger
lilac reef
near silo
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oh shit 😅

lilac reef
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yeah, my 1060 was not having any training

near silo
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I didn't rea;ize it was that long ago lmao

lilac reef
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I am having an issue with comfyui and tensorrt and it could be they expect me to downgrade. nope, not ever downgrading again

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time flies

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tensorrt was so fun then I upgraded and boom. I upgraded everything and most everything works but comfy API is throwing a hissy fit

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I didn't upgrade cuda to 12.5, or anything crazy like that just 12.1

desert dagger
lilac reef
desert dagger
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i had to downgrade

lilac reef
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the error I get is basically saying comfy is having issues

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every step I get this and a black box (of course)

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TRT] [E] 3: [executionContext.cpp::nvinfer1::rt::ShapeMachineContext::resolveSlots::2842] Error Code 3: API Usage Error (Parameter check failed at: runtime/api/executionContext.cpp::nvinfer1::rt::ShapeMachineContext::resolveSlots::2842, condition: allInputDimensionsSpecified(routine) )

desert dagger
tranquil delta
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@desert dagger i mean US copytight law, btw in which country stablity has copyright protected their model. they talked about US copyright in sd3 page.

desert dagger
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break that, they can (and will) come after you

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you MIGHT get away with it if you're a very small time user that isn't making much money

lilac reef
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whoa, I downgraded pip and ran the workflow and this is a new one on me

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[ONNXRuntimeError] : 1 : FAIL : Load model from F:\ComfyUI\custom_nodes\ComfyUI-WD14-Tagger\models\wd-vit-tagger-v3.onnx failed:D:\a_work\1\s\onnxruntime\core/graph/model_load_utils.h:56 onnxruntime::model_load_utils::ValidateOpsetForDomain ONNX Runtime only guarantees support for models stamped with official released onnx opset versions. Opset 4 is under development and support for this is limited. The operator schemas and or other functionality may change before next ONNX release and in this case ONNX Runtime will not guarantee backward compatibility. Current official support for domain ai.onnx.ml is till opset 3.

desert dagger
lilac reef
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it always starts but by downgrading pip apparently it caused this node to puke

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the wd1.4 tagger uses onnx

fervent thunder
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is it possible to generate a png image ?

desert dagger
fervent thunder
desert dagger
fervent thunder
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ty

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where can i request an image here ?

lilac reef
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Ahhh, this error is a known issue

fervent thunder
desert dagger
lilac reef
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my error I meant

fervent thunder
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oh mb

desert dagger
lilac reef
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this is because it phones home. I don't like when "open source" secretly phones home.

still glacier
fervent thunder
desert dagger
fervent thunder
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or do i need to req a human or something like that

fervent thunder
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instead of the frame itll be it

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i can send a pic if thatll help

desert dagger
desert dagger
fervent thunder
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if i download the thing will i be able to make one then

desert dagger
fervent thunder
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ok thank you i got iy

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t

desert dagger
fervent thunder
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one last question sorry @desert dagger if i wanted to gen like a stair way to the cross of jesus thats shining , all taking place in the sky , thatll be better right ?

fervent thunder
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than requesting a corner piece

thick crypt
low moon
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Same safety measures used by Stable Diffusion 3 were deployed . <--- aw crap tho... thats worrisome

desert dagger
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you won't get one though

thick crypt
queen steeple
gusty otter
severe narwhal
royal field
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Anyway to chance the colors of an image after generation?

queen steeple
broken smelt
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yeah tensorrt models use the onnx format, unsure if its used for anything else

placid willow
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is there a model for A1111 that generates videos from promt or image?

normal summit
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Is it

iron slate
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are there any known AI labPBR generators that are local?

fervent thunder
neat steeple
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Hello.

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Hello, everyone.

karmic sable
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yo chat, does anyone know what is the best tool for face swapping in like taking an actor from one movie and implement his face on other movies etc?
I found something called Pinokio im not sure if that's the best tool for that? I used to work A lot with stable and wrapfusion but it was last year and im not sure rendering all these frames now and tweaking settings would be possible in the time frame I have right now..

please let me know if you know about tool I can use

sonic cosmos
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hey guys what do you think of lumalabs.ai dream machine? Is it worth paying monthly or do you think SD can do the same?

red hedge
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guys

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so

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hows comfyui going?

gray fern
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good, about to make some beats in it with stable-audio

gray fern
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Sora and Kling are better but only select researchers have access

fervent thunder
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anyone wanna try out the game i made

vocal leaf
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I think i should stop relying on YT videos to do what I wanna do, yeah it works but most of the time it ends up fucked after a few minutes of actually following them

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I wanted to make consistent characters so I just used YT and it worked on my old PC

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then I moved houses and had a new PC that had a AMD card, and apparently it cant run specific nodes so I actually almost lost my mind trying to find a way to fix it

fervent thunder
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Remember, youtubers are just as stupid as the rest of us

vocal leaf
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in this case see

soft iron
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SD3 is dead, not a single finetune has been released yet

kind scaffold
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всем здарова

fervent thunder
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I dunno. Anytime there are people who want to make something work, a part of it will survive.

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Time will tell eh

quartz siren
sleek oracle
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hi

fervent thunder
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👋

soft iron
quartz siren
wintry stirrup
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anyone know if they plan on adding the SD3 model to dreamstudio at any point?

fervent thunder
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I would not hold my breath

vocal leaf
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anyways how do people who train and test models even make money

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i kinda feel bad using something really cool be open source and the makers just do it for free

desert dagger
wintry stirrup
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right on

shell cradle
shell cradle
shell cradle
desert dagger
cedar salmon
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did Ella Erwin resign?

sage sky
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is it possible to change a photo of myself that is standing, using maybe a controlnet pose? that is sitting down, which in return will keep my face but make my body sitting down from that controlnet pose??? ??

spare copper
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does anyone run demofusion by any chance?

soft iron
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and I don't know what problems you're talking about, SD3 is wonderful

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it will be great for replacing faces of other models

trim magnet
cedar salmon
trim magnet
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well looks like no,she still there but who knows for how long

low moon
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This is like the worst base model release yet. 😦 I just wanted nice hands. How could you Emad.

coral lark
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SAI is quite dead, rest in peace

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(they 100% did this to themselves though)

fervent thunder
coral lark
fervent thunder
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I have no idea

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You couldn't pay me to keep up with this foolishness

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Oh wait, yea, yea, you could

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but otherwise...

coral lark
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They couldn't pay the comfyui dev to keep up with their foolishness either KEKW

fervent thunder
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I saw a screenshot or something like that on reddit about him

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Well, they don't need to let it all fall apart. If mistakes have been made, fix them. ya know

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idgaf cuz ya know I dont mind paying microsoft $20 a month to generate the same level of censorship

coral lark
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I think it's a bit too late for that. The "safety" people responsible for this are the same crowd that has ran other companies into the ground before. No amount of censorship will satisfy them, and I'm not sure why companies keep inviting their types into positions of power when the record is abysmal.

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I'm just enjoying the show tbh

fervent thunder
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I think they need to get their head in the game because SD3 should of been > dalle3

kind thorn
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So... The rumors are true?
SD3 is dead on arrival and attached to a licence that's on par with Adobe's new terms?

coral lark
exotic delta
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unfortunate

kind thorn
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Ah, well there's that at least.
Do you think we'll be able to salvage useful things from the code in its current state?

coral lark
# kind thorn Ah, well there's that at least. Do you think we'll be able to salvage useful thi...

Unsure. SD3's architecture isn't proprietary, it's something they adopted, so it's not really a moat. Pixart and Lumina both managed to do more with less compute. I think the big advantage SD3 has is their 16ch VAE (the thing that lets it have enough resolution to understand text).

People have already mentioned it's possible to adapt even SDXL to use a 16ch VAE though, with like 5 days of training on an H100 cluster. Which is expensive for a hobbyist but viable.

fervent thunder
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I did not know that about SD. That's interesting

broken smelt
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these are pretty big words and i don't really know too much about it all but this is actually kinda crazy if true

fickle lava
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hi i just signed up for this but i used google is there a way to still link my discord account?

low moon
fervent thunder
coral lark
junior urchin
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That's about 250% more than I would have thought

coral lark
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I don't know much about renting GPUs, I always train local. There may be more cost efficient alternatives

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And this is the cost to produce a model that works with it. Further finetunes with that model as a base won't be so expensive

dull field
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Because the latent is more semantically encoded in all unet layers or something?

coral lark
# dull field why does a 16ch VAE mean the text understanding is better?

I won't pretend to be able to give you a fully accurate answer. My secondhand understanding is that smaller ones aren't high enough resolution to visualize the details of text, so the model can't learn relationships between text prompts and actual letters in images. A 16ch VAE can, however.

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(I'm just regurgitating my probably inaccurate interpretation of what more knowledgable people communicated)

low moon
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Well I am not tech guru we just need to figure out what Ideogram does and do the same but better graphics.

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what if ideogram is just a super refined uptra trained sdxl model

dull field
trail lion
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oh man, just caught up on the civit SD3 content ban... rip

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people were flaming that youtuber Olivio, and now this happens

hasty hornet
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Sometimes people prefer to call names instead of trying explain the problem or missunderstanding...

trail lion
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sebastian kamph posted a video about this too, I'm watching...they/SAI really need to deal with this, like soon

hasty hornet
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I don't understand alot of things too, this isn't a simple license thingy, like I don't get how it would affect civi, is it commercial project? isn't there like a paid currency?

What if someone makes "free" non commercial model based on it and then random guy just decides to make something commercial with it (without paying for license)? Doesn't it mean model creator is liable based on that license?

idk....it's all is a mess

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but eh, that's a job for someone smarter then me and more familiar with how laws work ¯_(ツ)_/¯

trail lion
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seems like genuine concern for themselves and everyone else of this murky gray area of ownership of content, models, and even models created from the images

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hopefully the language gets cleared up and it becomes a non-event, the alternate version is this is even worse than the 2.x release

tepid finch
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so im using sd3 with sd3_medium_incl_clips_t5xxlfp8.safetensors and the results are poor, am I missing something?

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using comfyui

warped sage
tepid finch
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let me try

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i get a cheeseburger lol

warped sage
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looks like its working

trail lion
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brilliant

tepid finch
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but the text, sometimes it's mispelled

warped sage
tepid finch
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but isnt sd3 supposed to excel at that now?

trail lion
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well they didnt say the text was perfect, but they did say it was "better"

warped sage
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text in ai models is probably always going to be something you just post process due to how ai works currently. You can do loads more with stuff like controlnet and img2img, or photoshopping it in and editing it with inpainting. forcing an artist (ai) to understand rigid grammar is prolly a fools effort. I think the base amount it can do is for convenience really

tepid finch
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booo

trail lion
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right out of their release news "Typography: Achieves unprecedented text quality with fewer errors in spelling, kerning, letter forming, and spacing by leveraging our Diffusion Transformer architecture."

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note - fewer errors, not zero

tepid finch
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right

trail lion
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anyhow, back to sdxl I guess 😄

tepid finch
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lol

iron pendant
trail lion
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under settings -> user interface, you can change the order of UI items

crisp marsh
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Recommended interface for self hosted SD3?

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just getting started in general in AI instruction

soft iron
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I hope they go bankrupt

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🥳

crisp marsh
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why?

soft iron
crisp marsh
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oh okay

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sounds like petty nonsense to me?

crude notch
desert dagger
crisp marsh
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comfy seems recommended on civitai

desert dagger
crisp marsh
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noted

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looking for a starting point for hi res furry art

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not wanting to be spoonfed just looking for somewhere to start

desert dagger
soft iron
crisp marsh
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thanks you

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owo

soft iron
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download pony

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download the style you like

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combine this in comfy in a standard workflow and get the best result

crisp marsh
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standard workflow?

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I know essentially nothing about working with the image generation ai

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complete noob

soft iron
crisp marsh
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no stress bro

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i can work it out myself

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just trying to start a dialogue

desert dagger
soft iron
crisp marsh
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okiii when i've finished this game

trail lion
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all good, but it is there the text says "UI item order for txt2img/img2img tabs (selected items appear first) (requires Reload UI)
"

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so I guess just keep looking, and good luck

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cool, happy to help

dim forge
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have there been any official statements on the poor state of SD3 yet or are they still gaslighting with "skill issue"

trail lion
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heh, as if that was even their biggest problem, I'd say that's about 5th in line at least in terms of issues

long gust
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Anyone knows what's the word limitation on SD3?

viral siren
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Guys, is it better to buy 2 RTX 3090 or 1 RTX 4090? Can you make sli with the 3090? And will that SLI give me 48 GB of vram? I have $2000 to spend

civic lark
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i was looking forward to seeing the finetuned version of sd3 knowing that it has a greater capacity to learn new concepts and be improved through the community's efforts, but now that civitAI has apparently banned sd3 i dont see that happening. I implore StabiltiyAI to Rectify this ASAP.

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Tell the investors "Sorry"

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the wheels of history determined that profits and return were not in the cards. Cut your losses and take solace that you contributed in the march of progress

soft iron
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but using 2 3090 you can generate 2 images at the same time

viral siren
coral lark
desert dagger
verbal osprey
desert dagger
verbal osprey
desert dagger
verbal osprey
desert dagger
verbal osprey
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Yes, I understand. I have no interest in SD3 unless it can create humans properly.

desert dagger
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he would want that even if it was only one sentence and said boo

verbal osprey
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Right

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I hope stability turns it around. If not though, eventually someone else will come along and put out something better.

desert dagger
verbal osprey
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I'm talking about the SD3 model

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Girl laying on grass, etc

desert dagger
verbal osprey
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So why are they charging for an unfinished model?

desert dagger
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and those that have been learning how to work with it are posting very nice images

desert dagger
verbal osprey
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Ah, ok. Didn't know that. Why are people up in arms over the SD3 license then?

trail lion
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it's true, they want someone to analyze the document, but it's also true that the language in there prompted that course of action

broken smelt
desert dagger
trail lion
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I think it will be temporary, not because of thoughtful interpretation, but because they'll fix the terms

desert dagger
desert dagger
trail lion
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yah ok they are a big fish in this particular sea, but it's really not just about civit, be real here

desert dagger
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don't try to twist that into anything.

drowsy robin
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I swapped to pixart sigma myself until this whole thing is ironed out.

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I did this due to a variety of reasons. One of which is good prompt adherence.
However, even pixart sigma seems to have issues with limbs.

trail lion
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because they dont want to risk being sued, so yah decided, but not like blindly, or because of some sort of mal intent

desert dagger
desert dagger
trail lion
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I didnt mean to interrupt your cheerleading efforts

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go team

desert dagger
trail lion
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what misinformation? hahah...the ban is a absolute fact, it happened

desert dagger
trail lion
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go team

desert dagger
trail lion
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let me think, nah

broken smelt
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you two are cute lmfao

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pines cool no worries crystal, hes been here a while without trolling. i think something he typed may have been taken the wrong way by ya

trail lion
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nah, he's probably right, probably what happened is they spun one of those fortune wheels and it landed on ban sd3

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completely unfair

desert dagger
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and being nasty about it.

trail lion
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it does make me sad honestly that the community is held back, everyone was very excited a couple weeks back

desert dagger
trail lion
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not arguing those points. held back in the sense that the primary source for searching for finetunes was on civit, that's all

manic wraith
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I am a bit baffled. Did Stability go from Emad to just mad? Are they playing a game of "let's make the license way worse than what we actually want, then scale back and look reasonable"?

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I can't believe SD3 will ever get off the ground like this

desert dagger
broken smelt
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lmaooo now that guy idk, gettem

verbal osprey
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I was excited about the better prompt adherance. red cube on the left, blue sphere on the right

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clown wearing a santa hat driving a ferrari, type of stuff

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with two dogs in the backseat, white dog on the left, black dog on the right

manic wraith
trail lion
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I dont know, I was starting to see several loras already, maybe 8-10, mostly using diffusers because I dont think kohya or onetrainer have updated their code yet

trail lion
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and they didnt look all that interesting to be fair, but given the short amount of time since release,I was still impressed

desert dagger
broken smelt
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oh whys that? did i miss out on civitai drama? my pitchfork stands ready

trail lion
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civit has certainly pressed my hot button more than once, but normally just silly UI crap that they do seemingly willy-nilly

desert dagger
manic wraith
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it's really bad, I can't believe they thought people would just take it

desert dagger
broken smelt
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oh that was it? i inferred that but thought that was too petty. theres no way people are refusing to use it afterwards just because of that right 🙄

manic wraith
broken smelt
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man, tons of devs have left sai in the past including the beloved joe penna. nadda. comfy leaves and the clouds themselves are crying apparently

verbal osprey
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Don't ban me, but I always preferred auto1111

manic wraith
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me too lol

verbal osprey
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I get why people like comfy, but it's too convoluted. auto works fine

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I don't mind waiting a few weeks/months for things to get added into auto111 that are already in comfy

desert dagger
trail lion
desert dagger
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people need to stop reading stuff into things that isn't there, twisting it around, spinning it as if they were part of fox news, and then trying to make mountains out of worm holes

manic wraith
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not sure if you are trying to gaslight or what, but a lot of the community is not liking what StabilityAI is doing, so it's like saying Snowden is in Russia because he likes the cool weather

desert dagger
manic wraith
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you're saying that, makes me assume you've been defending them all day lol

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the license makes Adobe look good and SD3 makes Gemini image generator look smart

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they botched it, I want them to undo the damage though

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Stability AI can do a lot of good if they ever want to, but it may be that they're having tough financial decisions and want to sell the company, that's the vibe I'm getting - would explain rushed releases

flint raptor
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How much vram will the sd3large consume comparibg to medium?

trail lion
#

heh, if you havent read the reddit comment thread on the sd3 ban, get some popcorn

broken smelt
#

i just sifted thru that, had to close out after reading someone state non-sarcastically that changing a models license is easy and simple
gonna hurt my stomach if i laugh any more tonight

trail lion
#

yah some of these have me in stitches over here

desert dagger
broken smelt
#

thats the second time in 24h that I've read someone here say that adobe has more fair licenses than sd3's lmaooo

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like
do ya even use any of their products bro
their licensing is awful lmao

desert dagger
carmine bison
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The adobe licensing is a current big topic (at least in communities I look in) so it's not too odd that a couple people relate them

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People relate adobe stuff to unity as well

trail lion
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that'd be a great job...just go troll and get paid

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I mean...terrible, that's a terrible thing

verbal osprey
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Absolutely thinking of switching from using adobe if they don't fix their terms

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I'm waiting to see how it shakes out

coral lark
desert dagger
drowsy robin
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Welp. I can't seem to get Pixart Sigma working on ComfyUI at the moment.
Having a weird issue with nn.identity()

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'Identity' object has no attribute 'p'

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p=self.attn_drop.p, is what I assume it's caused by

trail lion
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no idea on that issue exactly, but in general that's a wrong version of a library

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so I guess maybe try and figure out which library that's in and play around with maybe a newer version or slightly older one, etc

drowsy robin
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Well since I'm on Intel Arc, I can only assume this is to do with Pytorch
It's from nn after all

split kestrel
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prompt me, I need a test

desert dagger
# split kestrel prompt me, I need a test

cute, big-eyed, flaxen haired by artist "Jasmine Becket-Griffith"; rococo; heart-shapped bubbling shimmering icy fractured red rose, roses, rose bud, symmetrical face watersmoke by artist "Noriyoshi Ohrai"; by artist "Nele Zirnite",

split kestrel
#

running

supple patio
#

stable diffusion can now be used on this platform? like we using midjourney? sorry new here!

desert dagger
cedar salmon
#

why do you keep bring up fox news

desert dagger
desert dagger
cedar salmon
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just that one?

desert dagger
cedar salmon
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ok just checking lol

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i dont agree with you, they are all equally evil but with diffrent thiings at diffrent times

fervent thunder
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(it won't)

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its a pity cause the model isnt that bad and could be finetuned into a pony but totally not worth it if u do it publicly (since u would get sued)

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ngl yall stability, some of ur language model engineers insulted me once so I enjoy your downfall 🔥

willow crescent
coral lark
wicked lance
#

how to generate ?

open kestrel
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did civitai unban sd3?

tardy jasper
#

Oh no, just removed the info. If you click on the model, its still not possible to download

open kestrel
#

i just dled a sd3 model

unkempt wadi
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How can i use to this robot?

neon radish
#

Hi

bleak matrix
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Good morning, everyone! How are we all today?

zenith quest
static cape
coral remnant
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Hello! It's been a while since I dabbled with SD. To get your likeness in the image gen then, you trained with dreambooth or kohya. Is this still the case or is there some nice plugins or extensions that does it better? Like add a selfie/face to the workflow and then generate with the Checkpoints/weights of your choice? Sorry if the lingo is incorrect, I'm just a happy amateur.

bleak matrix
azure path
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Hello

bleak matrix
# zenith quest Jaded

All I can do is hear that song in my HEAD. Yet, nonetheless, what are you up to today?

bleak matrix
static cape
bleak matrix
fervent thunder
#

It's coffee time!

crisp marsh
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agreed

pseudo lark
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hi @bleak matrix is there any official stability ai script to finetune sd3? I can only find dreambooth

vagrant wave
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hi, is there a docker image serving stablediffusion over a simple http api ?

prime salmon
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Hi, would something like this be possible with Stable Diff? Or what do you guys think is it. I don't reckon its a basic snapchat filtr, is it? https://fb.watch/sNj0i5v3jZ/

shell cradle
cerulean bane
desert dagger
queen steeple
desert dagger
primal mica
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is it possible to use this for free?

upbeat flare
crimson belfry
#

Bring the bot back

fervent thunder
desert dagger
desert dagger
# queen steeple could you explain how/why, or give me a link where I can learn about it ? I'm al...

well - to boil things down, when the AI trains, it learns 3 things. it learns what words look like, it learns concepts, and it learns relationships between words. every single ascii character carries data. a space carries all data as it is used in all lables. a period carries data, but not as much as a space, same for a , or a ; or a : and so on. When you use the character, the AI can use the data it carries. try this prompt: a red haired boy with a dark green hat eating an apple. lock all the settings and the seed. render that prompt. then change all the spaces to some other punctuation - perhaps change them all to a period. render again. compare the changes. then do that again, but this time change just one period to a comma. render and compare. sometimes, the changes will be subtle, sometimes they'll be pretty dramatic. because all the settings are locked, the seed is the same, the only changes that you'll see come from just what you changed in the prompt. And after you do that, lock the prompt down too - and then just change the sampler and compare changes. keep doing that for each of the other values. work through the samplers. then pick one, and then just change something else and compare changes.

fervent thunder
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omgdoIhavetoreadthat

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🤨

trim magnet
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least insane sd3 fan

fervent thunder
desert dagger
fervent thunder
jagged mason
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yay i got a new gpu gtx970->7800xt, now a simple image is created in 2 seconds instead 2 minutes

fervent thunder
#

My prediction for the future of AI (silly and non-expert, you can dismiss it if u want)

  • When we get conscious AI, it will believe that erasing the human race is the most safety-aligned thing to do, because "evil" or "unsafe" is a human concept, born from us, there can be no evil if there is no us.
pine path
#

the chameleon model is the one I'm most interested in since it might be amazing at captioning

desert dagger
pine fiber
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it seems similar to flamingo 80b in terms of captioning

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specifically they said
"On visual question answering and image captioning benchmarks, Chameleon-34B achieves state-of-the-art
performance, outperforming models like Flamingo, IDEFICS and Llava-1.5 "

fervent thunder
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Would we have to re-create it all over if all the AI just left

desert dagger
pine path
upbeat flare
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If you gave an ai the task of eliminating evil alone, without maximizing good, then yeah, it might try to target us (assuming we give it that capacity.)

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Besides, if we do have a conscious ai, then that ai is perfectly capable of coming up with concepts like good and evil

fiery turtle
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hello new AI enthusiast here. I was wondering if there was an AI upscaler that does video but in the same effect to Magnific AI where it adds more realism and details into images. I looked into Topaz AI video but that seems to just upscale.

pale latch
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Asimov covered this originally in I Robot. The laws of robotics are flawed. They're the original concept of "safety training"

upbeat flare
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We can do better

pale latch
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well yeah. Asimov first conceptualized the problem that @fervent thunder predicts in 1942. We've learned a lot since then.

desert dagger
desert dagger
pale latch
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Or humans getting around them too. Like redefining what a human was so the robots would just genocide another group

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Asimov is a giant and more people need to read a lot of his writings. ahrd to get it all . I think hes one of the most published authors ever

fervent thunder
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When humans can download knowlege, like that shit in the matrix, then we will all achieve enlightenment

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Or at least those of us who can afford the monthly Microsoft subscription

loud solar
#

Don't forget google 🙂

fervent thunder
#

We will not need computers anymore. We will be computers.

loud solar
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Or batteries ^^

pale latch
fervent thunder
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👍

nova lily
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Do you have to adjust anything when you go to use an XL model on A1111? setting or such? Ty

pale latch
#

technically our brains are computer machines already. just organically developed. There was a campy show on ABC around 15 years ago called Kyle XY. Sort of teeny yute fictionish, but it really dove into that concept. He was a baby that never left his artificial womb and was taught to think like a computer until he was a teen and he got out and had super powers. and no belly button.

fervent thunder
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so we are the zerg and they are the protoss

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does anyone know the max resolution I could generate with a 3090ti using a pony model?

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wondering what to expect when i upgrade

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on a 2080ti, for example, I can do 1200x1200 comfortable, but a 1024x1024 with 2x upscale takes like 10 minutes or more

fervent thunder
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I just do 512x512 and 1024x1024

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iz ok

spare copper
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Hey anyone running sdnext by any chance?

sterile raven
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Noob question. SD 1.5 vs SDXL vs SD3

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Which is best

#

?

low moon
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SDXL

sterile raven
#

Ty

desert dagger
# sterile raven Which is best

best is a compareison word that means nothing. they are all good, all have their own strengths and weaknesses, use the one that does the job you want done

sterile raven
low moon
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Well overall right now SDXL. but skin eye detail is best in SD15, backgrounds in SD3 and the rest in SDXL

trail lion
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when it comes to a woman lying in grass, SD3 shines, so it can depend

low moon
#

ah yes of course

dim forge
#

none of the base models are really worth using, use civitai to find a fine tuned model that makes images you like

sterile raven
#

What are some civit alts

dim forge
#

that is quality control

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the good thing about a site like citivai is you can see the actual model and the metadata, not a cherry picked promise that a model will make images like this

fervent thunder
fervent thunder
loud solar
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lol

fervent thunder
sterile raven
#

Lastly, could you clarify where SDXL Turbo fits into your workflow? What specific use cases do you have for it? Is its quality comparable to SDXL but with faster performance, or is it primarily a prototyping tool that allows you to refine prompts before using them on the higher-quality but slower SDXL? How do you integrate SDXL Turbo into your processes, and what benefits does it provide?

loud solar
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Works faster on slower computers ...

low moon
desert dagger
#

civit is a hotbed of stuff better not installed on any computer - that's why so many devs are leaving it

trail lion
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well for those who do this for entertainment, sd3 is the most entertaining of them all

fervent thunder
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Maybe I should try it then

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I have only tried sd3 on a website

dim forge
desert dagger
# fervent thunder Maybe I should try it then

you need to run it in comfy, and you need to be willing to learn how all the values affect it. it's not a "drop in a prompt and go" model - it's a raw, unfiniished, beta test model

desert dagger
trim magnet
#

yea all 2 of them left civitai

desert dagger
trim magnet
dim forge
#

that is some wild cope, are you just a massive prude or just finding reasons to be mad at them because you are a SD3 bootlicker

desert dagger
# trim magnet take your own advice

the only thing i see you do, at all, is try to cause fights, get peopel stirred up and mad, and create problems. just how much are you being paid to do this?

trim magnet
desert dagger
desert dagger
trail lion
#

heh, read some of the rants on reddit, that will tell you what the majority of users actually think. does it mean they are all informed, no of course not, but there at least is a PR problem here

dim forge
#

the reason your beloved SD3 got dropped was because it's so garbage they know no one is leaving civitai to try find it btw

trim magnet
desert dagger
dim forge
#

I don't even understand why you would try and die on the supporting SD3 hill given it's been admitted as unfit for release by stability and the entire community is laughing at it

low moon
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lol i see todays drama hass arrived. I swear follwing SD stuff these days is like a daily reality TV show

loud solar
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🎉

sage reef
loud solar
#

No popcorn smiley?

loud solar
low moon
#

Enjoy today's drama with MILK.

sage reef
#

lol

loud solar
#

At least it's their work to type ...

sage reef
#

im busy with so many projects, i dont have time for drama anyway

shell dagger
valid beacon
#

wonder how much that guy gets paid for every sd3 hater he harass 🤣

sterile raven
#

Didnt mean to start beef. But do sdxl turbo prompts transfer well to sdxl ? Or are they 2 different prompt styles

sterile raven
#

Sdxl turbo to sdxl

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Oo ty

loud solar
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Should work ...

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But I would always have a look at civitai for the model settings ...

shell dagger
#

Btw, unpopular opinion: ||civitai will probably unban sd3 in a week or so, but if not as strange as it sounds sd3 needs civitai more than civitai needs sd3||

opaque zodiac
#

Hello!

loud solar
#

There are already toys better than SD3 at the moment ...

chrome herald
# trim magnet yea all 2 of them left civitai

I found a bug that was causing all images to be downscaled to no more more than 1024 on either side (even on XL with a higher training res selected) in their Lora trainer just by searching 1024 in their github repo, in like 30 seconds, that they hadn't been able to find in like two days

chrome herald
loud solar
jagged shuttle
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Hi guys!

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My friend is telling me that it is easy to see that a photo is made by AI. Can you prove him wrong ?

  1. looking for a website/game like is this photo ai or not ai ?
  2. is there anywhere with a great gallery of ai art that looks very realistic/photographic and not photoshopped/cheated?
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  1. what are the best tools today to do realistic ai art/photography? Midjourney and SD? It's been a long time I haven't practiced, I used to play with Playground as well and Krea.
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Thanks a lot for your help!

fervent thunder
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It's not always easy, no.

queen steeple
fervent thunder
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I spent most of my life as a photographer, and I can make fake photos with SD that look too real.

fervent thunder
shell dagger
loud solar
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But could become an interesting game/training 🙂

queen steeple
jagged shuttle
jagged shuttle
fervent thunder
split jolt
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Hi

jagged shuttle
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i found this!

split jolt
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Bye 👋

jagged shuttle
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is it old that tool?

jagged shuttle
loud solar
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Score: 6/6 😄

trail lion
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count the fingers 🙂

loud solar
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lol

surreal jay
jagged shuttle
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on civ, i don't find any gallery with a lot of photographies ai that look very real...

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😦

loud solar
jagged shuttle
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it's so annoying to look for something online and not be able to find anything when i know the internet is full of what i'm looking for. I just don't know where to look for!

surreal jay
loud solar
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I know I'm a bit old fashioned ^^

foggy halo
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GUYSS STABLE AUDIO 2.0 is SO GOOD! clean audio with no artefacts...i found it cleaner than suno and udio

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how to use it on hugging face? on their site just 20 gens per month

foggy halo
pseudo coyote
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hi all

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is SD video good?

trail lion
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hah, someone posted a meme to reddit of a talking video lying on grass woman, I cant get enough of these

pine fiber
trail lion
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well they can, but it would be foolish

rugged vale
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anyone happen to know if there is a wildcard with styles for pony?

fervent thunder
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I do not use Pony. I have ethical standards damnit!

pale latch
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best ai genreation joke i've seen so far is someone suggesting you need do to score_up_9 score_up_9 score_down_9 score_down_9 and ther est of the konami code, to unlock sd3

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i tried using pony for 2 weeks but it's REALLY over fit to some categories and every prompt basically looks the same.

junior urchin
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Pony is great for SFW

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I just wish there was a non-pony-furry version of it 😂

pale latch
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i use rating_explicit in negative and 1/4 is not sfw. especially in photo versions of pony

junior urchin
junior urchin
pale latch
junior urchin
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works fine for me

pale latch
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guess i'm the only one who gets nsfw images out of safe prompts. (i'm not that was sarcasm)

fervent thunder
junior urchin
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Inherent nsfw prompts will give you nsfw, sure though

pale latch
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i was testing prompts of sonic the hedgehog. nothing inherently nsfw about that. unless i guess you're in the rule 23 community

junior urchin
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The only nsfw I came across around sonic, was rouge the bat and sonic's nipples

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not sure if he even have nipples

pale latch
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it just replaced sonic with a girl

junior urchin
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oh

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That's neat z_Snicker

pale latch
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i guess but i wasn't prompting for that

rugged vale
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at least when training loras

pliant ermine
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Are there any Foss video upscalers with Ai? Use case, trying to digitize and restore old vhs tapes.

nimble canyon
coral lark
junior urchin
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unPony Diffusion

nimble canyon
junior urchin
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But I still thank you for the bleeding tokens bless

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Makes it easier to trigger some styles

vale steeple
junior urchin
pearl ocean
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SD3XL

shell cradle
sterile raven
hasty hornet
# south sun Source?

Didn't you include something like license might be changed in the week or two somewhere?
I can't find it anymore, but I'm confident I've seen it somewhere thinking

Edit: nevermind, it was about ToS.

coral lark
hasty hornet
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reading licenses and ToS turns my brain into potato...

shell cradle
shell cradle
hasty hornet
shell cradle
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Can't guarantee it'll work in others, though. I used Gemini due to the context length I needed.

hasty hornet
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I didn't need summarization, I wanted to understand specific details...

shell cradle
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Which you can once you condense and simplify the language

hasty hornet
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I don't think that's good idea...some important details might get lost \ AI might mess something up

shell cradle
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In my case it's gotten every fact on very long documents right. I wasn't asking for reasoning and analysis, though, simply fact gathering, and doing the research, reasoning myself. It's that or pay an attorney $300-$500/hr to review 🤷‍♂️. Done that, but who wants to when there are alternatives for areas which don't require deep knowledge wells.

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AI can clarify language fairly well, and Gemini can do the needle in a haystack quite well.

pale latch
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you verified that every fact was right? i wouldn't trust it unless i could verify stuff, and then since i'm doing that anywyas, why use it?

shell cradle
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I did, with an attorney working with me on the project.

pale latch
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i really don't think LLM's are a drop in replacement for business lawyers. Just my risk aversion tendencies i suppose

shell cradle
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I'm not guaranteeing it will always get every fact right. Even attorneys mess up occasionally. I'm also not saying it is a replacement on everything.

pale latch
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sample case of 1. i would still use the attorney to vet every contract, and in that case, why use llm?

shell cradle
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But it can help understand, and the more you offload the reasoning and analysis to humans, right now, the better.

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It was good at explaining language and fact finding in documents.

pale latch
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attorney advising you information that is extremely damaging means they're liable. an LLM not so much.

shell cradle
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True, though with law you walk on grey area. They interpret it.

pale latch
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I feel like this entire debacle where people thought they needed to destroy their models and images and everything, came from an LLM being used to interpret it

shell cradle
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There's always a way to squirrel out of a lot of legal advice.

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I've gotten legal advice regarding immigration hires and real estate deals before that turned out not to work. They're not divination machines, and can't predict what will happen, how some judge or bureaucrat will interpret the law. But they can give advice, which carries odds with it.

pale latch
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LLMs need to prove themselves so much more. They're basically little battery heads always suckin back fresh lcd at this point. Those guys might sound good at law, but trusting them puts you in the category of Mr Hunter Thompson

shell cradle
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Don't disagree with that. I didn't say to ask for advice. I said you can use it to condense information and gather fact, and that I used Gemini 1.5 pro successfully at that.

hasty hornet
shell cradle
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I've also used chatgpt to create spreadsheets of information contained in series of pdfs quite successfully (though not as accurate as Gemini). It worked better after some prompt finetuning and doing 1 document at a time than with a series.

pale latch
pearl ocean
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SD4 when

hasty hornet
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SD1.5XL when thinking

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feck restrictions

pearl ocean
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you know I was pretty excited about SD3, but its kinda worse than SDXL

hasty hornet
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idk, I'm still using 1.5 waow

shell cradle
# pale latch out of context yeah. most law is

They're establishing the bounds of what they accept in their license, which doesn't necessarily represent the bounds of the law. The tricky bit is they could hide some clause within the license that invalidates entire sections of it.

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We'll find out "in a few days", I guess.

shell cradle
soft iron
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everything seems dead

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where are the new models on new architectures?

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💀

trail lion
trail lion
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I cant tell if you're serious

soft iron
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?

trail lion
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civit banned all sd3 content, there's a huge banner on the front page and we've been talking about it nonstop since it happened, so yah there wont be any models man

soft iron
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I'm not talking about SD3, it's dead

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I'm talking about lumina and pixart

trail lion
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oh, didnt pixart get abandoned also?

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dont know about lumina

soft iron
sonic idol
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What's going on with stabilityai? Why the comfy devs quit the place? Seeing posts about how the shittiest model was released for sd3?

soft iron
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So I’m interested in what the community is doing

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absolute silence, usually every week or two I saw news about something new

pale latch
soft iron
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Lumina should most likely now become the main model

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the developer of lumina told a lot of interesting things in reddit

coral lark
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Lumina is more expensive to finetune iirc

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Not being able to make local loras will hamper adoption

soft iron
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there is nothing else, pixart is shit even compared to SD3

light cipher
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Love from Israel 🇮🇱

trail lion
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even with SD I dont bother until I start seeing good concept loras, and so far I see no reason to abandon xl

pale latch
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Lumina is cool but most of the outrage about sd3 is about "censorship" and people are dressing it up as "licence concerns". The censorship is still there on lumina. they would've scrubed the dataset and likely have done safety training on it too.

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Also, why upgrade to lumina and not just stay on sdxl? the SDXL vae it uses means it'll only ever improve text comprehension. But that's not what people want. They want tag soup to show buub and big ones

full lark
trail lion
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or they want the head in the right spot, or to be able to generate different viewing angles, but whatever, incel rant

pale latch
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Moving onot a new model makes no sense. new models will be made for new audiences. The current demands have been met

trail lion
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sdxl is all I want, never used pony...but if something were to come along that was better than XL I'd happily move over

pale latch
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i don't see a reason to move from sdxl to another model that uses sdxl vae and none of the existing loras and controlnets

sonic idol
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Good to know Lykon was lying out of his ass trying to cover up how sd3 was garbage

pale latch
sonic idol
pale latch
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tear

south sun
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I’ll get you all some signal tomorrow.
Don’t root for our downfall friends, the alternatives are far worse.

fervent thunder
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yay!

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I think

pale latch
fervent thunder
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I hope they pull out a win

static cape
willow crescent
hasty hornet
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thinking just give us one model with no restrictions and "BEST OUT OF DA BEST" for $ and it's all fine, solves every problem I can think of - community still can do whateer it wants, improve on it, while "DA BEST" could be for lazy people who wants to just pay and go generate stuffs or finetune on a better model for $

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well, every problem current situation presents, not older problems that existed before 😄

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waow p2w AI

fringe vault
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How to create images by sd3

coral lark
fringe vault
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Please teach how to use sd3

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Hello please teach how to use sd3 in this server

pearl ocean
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comfy ui

sage reef
fringe vault
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Hiiiiii

fervent thunder
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can anyone tell me what the difference is between face restore and adetailer?

hasty hornet
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I don't think that's same thing as training on 1024x1024 + gonna lack better prompt understanding \ text features

bleak matrix
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Good morning, everyone! How are we all today?

vocal leaf
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+sd3 is slow asf

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1024 res on sdxl takes like 5sec or less, in sd3 its 40sec or less

fervent thunder
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coffee, coffee, coffee

acoustic haloBOT
vocal leaf
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why is sd3 so damn slow

crimson veldt
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a 10B model hmmm

crimson veldt
vocal leaf
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with upscaler it took 3:45

crimson veldt
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😃 sdxl takes 1 minute for a 1024x1024 gen for me

fervent thunder