💬｜general-chat

[sinful raptor]

Yea ik, I'm using this to generate ads for a startup, and I have a lot on my plate I was hoping not to have to learn ComfyUI

I've actually had a lot of success w/ SD3, the text is great

[rare parrot]

It's very simple for basic generations

[twin zenith]

really? do u know how 2 find it ?

[sinful raptor]

If someone knows of a workflow config file that has this all set up I'd try to pop it open

[rare parrot]

You can search for extensions if you install something called comfy ui manager, extremely handy piece of software

[rare parrot]

Looks like this should work
https://github.com/Stability-AI/ComfyUI-SAI_API/blob/main/api_cat_with_workflow.png

Might need to update it to use SD3 but that should be simple

[sinful raptor]

Dope thanks

[rare parrot]

You do need the extension itself too

It's that git repo

[twin zenith]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK

[rare parrot]

Also lets you things like updating all your extensions and the comfyui itself, manually unloading models from memory and downloading some models, especially handy for upscalers since it's usually more annoying to find them

[visual warren]

Is it absolutely necessary to have an account to generate images or is there a way to generate images without one?

[trail lion]

you can do it without one, you just have to have a local install of stable diffusion, but it wont work with SD3 yet

[visual warren]

and im guessing the only way to have a local instal of stable diffusion is to buy it?

[trail lion]

nope, it's free

[visual warren]

Well ok then, color me shocked. Link to it please?

[trail lion]

go into this channel https://discord.com/channels/1002292111942635562/1002602742667280404 and in the pinned messages at the top guides

[visual warren]

thanks

[loud solar]

It's been youtube. Funny to meet you here right now. Welcome!

[rustic yoke]

Hello

I am confused what this is i joined off a random link i found on 4chan

[trail lion]

lol

google 'stable diffusion' and 'stability.ai'

[rustic yoke]

Ohhhhh

Ok

I understand now

[trail lion]

didnt realize ppl still used 4chan

[rustic yoke]

I just lurk on it sometimes

[opal spade]

Does anyone have any good resources or youtube channels they like on how to edit/touch up images from AI to make them professional looking?

[rare parrot]

Define professional

[opal spade]

Something I could put on a book cover as a self published author

[rare parrot]

Book cover really doesn't narrow it down tbh

Depending on what it's meant to be the steps would be completely different

Is that some light novel and you want to print anime girls in the cover or will it be some drama so you'll put realistic props in an abstract settings

Anyways

Stuff like that usually requires both an artist and a graphic designer

Making stuff look professional is like a whole job market

So yea I'd probably look into graphic design courses idk

[opal spade]

It's going to be a long and steep learning curve. Was moreso just curious if anyone had some go-to these are good places to start. Thank you 🙂

[grizzled palm]

Img2img. Give it your amateur design, and in the prompt add words describing it as a professional work. The result will not be usable, obviously, but the changes it makes will show you where your design falls short.
For img2img, I recommend A1111 or ComfyUI, and SDXL.

[opal spade]

Thank you!

[rare parrot]

Still

Unless you plan out what the cover should be deliberately, it'll likely feel like a random image slapped onto it, no matter how good looking

Especially since AI tends to generate things which look like a photo for the sake of photo

Or an artwork for the sake of artwork

That's why most AI-generated comics very often look like somebody stitched a bunch of similar but independent artworks together

[low moon]

Just keep Photoshop or it's equivalent nearby and you'll be fine.

AI can;t be trusted with everything. Yet.

[fervent thunder]

any way to download all generated images from dreamstudio?

[stray grotto]

Hello I just joined - what process do I need to go through to enable / dream in one of the channels?

[sudden ruin]

#artisan-faq

[low moon]

You need to go to sleep.

[sudden ruin]

What do you mean?

[low moon]

Well to enable dreaming you have to go sleep. 😏

[sage reef]

il tuck you in

[frozen helm]

I’ll join you

[loud solar]

Love is in the air sing

[low moon]

😎

[fallow trail]

can i get a tucky

[loud solar]

What is a tucky?

[frozen helm]

Kentucky tucky

A special move

[low moon]

It involves fried chicken and grease.

But mostly grease.

[loud solar]

Sounds slimy ...

[sage reef]

you love it

[loud solar]

But fried chicken <=> lady?

Even ChatGPT can't translate this lol

[sage reef]

slimy Würstchen :3

[loud solar]

Sounds naughty ^^

But could be prompt material 😄

[chilly heron]

is it possible to create 360 by 180 degrees in SD so it look right when i wrap it around a sphere?

[terse adder]

.< So can we make video from prompts or just images? Still confused.

[loud solar]

Yes ... Stable Video Diffusion is Image to Video for example

[loud solar]

There's a special Webservice for that I've used for free ...

[loud solar]

Have a look here -> https://skybox.blockadelabs.com/

[terse adder]

Awesome. Can we do so here on discord? Is there a specific room or prompt for it? Or is it solely web based for that aspect?

[loud solar]

I think you can use Artisan but you will need to pay ...

[chilly heron]

thanks thats save me alot of work since i only need to use it ones

[loud solar]

I use it local but it needs a good graphic card.

[chilly heron]

never mind that didnt work its like it's not even consedering my prompt

i will tell you what i found so far

https://github.com/lucataco/cog-sdxl-panoramic-inpaint

https://github.com/tjm35/asymmetric-tiling-sd-webui

and https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/16csnfr/workflow_creating_a_360_panorama_image_or_video/

but eathir im dum or they are explaining in stable defution lingo

from what i know i should download this https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui and then have a modle but im a bit camfused how do i make it make a 360 after that

i have 3060 12gb so i think i can run localy

[loud solar]

Should run fair on your computer. I know there are ways to create something like that but only tried one or two times ... maybe ask aunt Youtube?

[chilly heron]

i been their but no luck

[desert dagger]

@shut hare @finite cloak could the artisan create channel messages maybe be modified to show you how many credits you have left each time you generate?

[loud solar]

If you only need once I'd think to install and learn Stable Diffusion is to much work ...

[chilly heron]

i knoww its too much work for one image but i need a 360 image of a runway in an airport really bad for a project im working on but i cant find any online so i dont have much options left

[loud solar]

OK, Blockadelabs only allow download with a subscription ... bad luck ...

[chilly heron]

[loud solar]

Maybe ask here a bit later again. It's just nothing I really need ...

[acoustic forge]

Isn't it free anymore?

[loud solar]

Blockadelabs? You can create your thing but with watermark and not download for free any longer

[acoustic forge]

what is blockadelabs?

[loud solar]

An A.I. to create 360° panoramas

[spring fern]

yo why does it say

ImportError:
DLL load failed while importing bz2
Press any key to continue . . .

[honest mica]

Who is it? And try #🤝｜tech-support

[spring fern]

wym who is it

[honest mica]

You said: why does it say

[spring fern]

i meant the webui-user.bat duh

alright goodnight

[loud solar]

😁

[honest mica]

Do you also need help?

[loud solar]

Not really 🙂

[honest mica]

Never had this problem with run_nvidia_gpu.bat

[loud solar]

I think he is using A1111 or SD Forge ...

[honest mica]

What a lovely user. I checked. It was his first post. Not even a Hello. Straight to the point.

[loud solar]

Humen ...

Better smile about it 🙂

[cerulean nimbus]

Hmm

[steep galleon]

Hi everyone, how to make this kind of video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94ALmuvtBNY)

[pearl ocean]

Forge is the only answer

[loud solar]

A1111 has a webui-user.bat, too

[chilly heron]

anyone can help with 360 image creating

[spare meteor]

I was hoping to join some channels as I’m starting explore and use Stable Zero123 - is there a channel like that here? I cannot seem to see it?

[ornate cobalt]

i subscribed the stable artisan for free trial and no credits are received and no cancellation obtion is availabl

My account is [e-mail] and invoice# is 99EF9080526

[fervent thunder]

Hey can any1 that uses comfy explain me how to make the pipes have those neat 90 degree angles instead of the spaghetti mess? I've seen it on various people's workflows

[true canopy]

its in the options

its a dropdown

#🏞｜general-with-images @fervent thunder

[fringe drift]

https://tenor.com/2fnZ.gif

https://tenor.com/bK0BD.gif

[soft iron]

never forget that SD3 will never released

[sage reef]

it will, May 20

[pearl ocean]

at this rate GTA6 will be out before SD3

[sage reef]

i mean that's also a good thing, il take either first :3

[true canopy]

im sure it will be fine, people have waited along time, a few more weeks surely wont make much of a difference

[astral goblet]

gta6 is 5 years out at least. pc wont' come at first

it'll have a couple delays yet

the trailer said did it?

i bet theres some sort of consequences for them if they don't meet that date

they better

[true canopy]

no, lol, even if they delay years there wont be consequences

[astral goblet]

also as is tradition, rockstar games are console exclusives at launch

[sage reef]

2025? just in time for ps5 pro or ps6 and switch 2 man who am i kidding, im playing it on PC

but PC will come later 😦

i guess il be playing it on my ps5 until pc

[astral goblet]

yeah i'll probably buy a ps5 for it

[true canopy]

but...can a ps5 even handle it?

[sage reef]

ps5 pro

[true canopy]

i can only assume its going to really, like hardware heavy

[sage reef]

well it will certainly push the limits of the console i guess

im wondering about the fps too

[astral goblet]

rockstar's game engine is called rage so i think it'll be fine

[sage reef]

are they still using Rage?

[astral goblet]

yeah its just the name of their internal software stock.

they dont use out of house engines

paying royalties on those kind of sales? naw

[true canopy]

they have probably worked on that engine for like 20 years

[sage reef]

started in 2006 according to wiki

but they use 3rd party physics and character animations tho, so Rage is rendering and other stuff

[astral goblet]

you dont just give up a name like rage either. it's really the keystone of the whole thing

[true canopy]

but truth be told, gta 5 was too much of a success, it was so successful they interntinally withheld gta 6 for so many years

[sage reef]

milking the cow :3

[true canopy]

indeed, i mean its understandble, but still sucks

[sage reef]

mhm

[astral goblet]

i'm glad gta's don't come out every year like assasins creed

has more impact

[true canopy]

its the same but worse for other games, like minecraft and games like terraria, since they are so successful, they dont even dare to release or update anything

[sage reef]

i have the entire assassin creed collection on my ps5, just missing the first one cause Ubisoft never re-released it or remastered it.. smh my head

[astral goblet]

terraria cancelled their sidequel project to add it as a free update lol

[sage reef]

also have the full fromsoft collection on ps5

[true canopy]

terraria is especially bad, no idea why, they add like, very very small updates yearly, like adding music or 1-2 weapons

[sage reef]

but bloodborne has to come to pc 😦

terraria 2 when

[true canopy]

it will come when mincraft 2 comes, so never

[sage reef]

😦

[true canopy]

but still, small studios are making great games, so its fine

[sage reef]

yea im working on some games too, but takes time, i dont want to rush some garbo

it's also a very unique idea that no one did before :3

[true canopy]

your a game dev?

[sage reef]

yea among other programming things haha

[true canopy]

well good luck, we need more games

[sage reef]

yea

[true canopy]

more simple games, btw !

[sage reef]

my game is simple, and highly replayable, and technically even moddable

[astral goblet]

i'm working on an idle game. not sure if 'm at the point where i'll follow through to completelion or not. still really sketchy

[sage reef]

nice

[true canopy]

i love idle and incremental games

[astral goblet]

theyr'e truely one of the most games

[sage reef]

im also busy with a 3D engine, i did most of the rendering, 3d physics, and started with animations, but that part sucks ass to implement from scratch

[true canopy]

ive had a really hard time with programming

[sage reef]

my game combines kinda couple elements, idle, incremental, adventure, etc, its very cool, but i cant share info yet :3

[astral goblet]

same i'mnot at any kind of info sharing stage. plus i'm distracted by an idle game lately

[sage reef]

im also working on my own image generator from scratch kinda, using a new concept that im still working on, but this project will take a while, i have a general idea, but not sure how to structure it exactly yet.

so many projects, so little time

[stuck raven]

Hi, i am new, how can i generate images using stable diffusion?

[pearl ocean]

im playing The Planet Crafter

[pearl ocean]

if you don't have much time just hire some ppl

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tame cloud]

[gusty bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/peachcat-cute-excited-dance-cant-gif-20003392

[scarlet kraken]

Hello!
Can anybody tell me what can I do in this server?

[teal pagoda]

Nothing

You can just wait for SD3

[scarlet kraken]

What is SD3?

[teal pagoda]

A fairytale

[solemn valley]

What can you do for me

[loud solar]

Love is the answer ... ❤️

[steep elbow]

hello

[loud solar]

Ni hao

[exotic wedge]

hello

[halcyon vigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1190707046409052241/1238140768519065641/RPReplay_Final1715263064.mov?ex=663f8572&is=663e33f2&hm=ad0da8b2e59e51e836b41020cbbe84392ff4b4819126debcde1587358919244a&

[amber bloom]

you can generate images in exchange for money, check out #artisan-faq

[opal hedge]

Did they update the version of SD3 that apis have yet

[jade moth]

Hey people, I have a noob question : Does anyone has a solution to directly input a PNG image with transparency into inspainting? So the alpha area is targeted by the inpaint.

[fast warren]

hey guys, i used to have a website that list every style of clothes, hairstyles, eyes etc but cant remember.. does anyone got it ?

[silent yacht]

hello guys , who use image to video from stability.ai using API ?

[lusty anchor]

Ahoy ahoy

[brave jetty]

So, the plan for Stability, is to make money, the same MidJourney does

I'm pretty sure they won't release SD3 or anything else

We can only count on open source and community

No Stability anymore

[true canopy]

it is likely to be released, people just dont have the patience to wait for it

they also made the mistake of setting a release date, that passed awhile ago, making people more upset

[sage reef]

[true canopy]

if ceo says 6 weeks, we can probably assume to double that, so 12 weeks, and we are closing in on week 8, so at the least 1 more month to go

[sage reef]

im having fun and playing with so many current things and extensions/plugins that by the time sd3 releases, il prob even forget like, oh yea... this is a thing :3

[true canopy]

and im sure people will wait 1-2 months, its not a long time after all

[charred mesa]

hopefully end of may tbh

[true canopy]

yeah thats not a bad guess at all

[charred mesa]

civitai newsletter said so

[true canopy]

i think it will be more 1-2 weeks into june, but well see

[low moon]

Cue the Gaben HL3 jokes.

SD3 = HL3.

It will be worth the weight and it comes but these things take time...

etc

[sage reef]

worth the weight? good one

[wicked hawk]

greetings... ai visual production bots have been removed, anyone know?

are you talking to me?

[amber bloom]

They are back in a different form: #artisan-faq

[spring fern]

yo i'm glad A1111 is usable on CPU only

[civic cradle]

can someone train a pony xl model for me? i have the dataset and everything but my loras look horrible

i have given up completely

[lusty beacon]

Guys when can we see SD3

[loud solar]

Now ...

[lusty beacon]

I mean locally

[sage reef]

see it with your own eyes? 😮

[lusty beacon]

Make it OpenSource

😦

[charred mesa]

they will release the weights in the future

[lusty beacon]

Mhh

[verbal osprey]

A figment of your imagination.

[sage reef]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM-e46xdcUo

[astral goblet]

you can connect comfyui to the api

[soft iron]

hi, SD3 will never released

[tranquil mortar]

.

[sage reef]

how much do you wanna bet?

[trail lion]

you're both wrong

[sage reef]

[opal hedge]

We'll never get our high quality t5 anime boobies

It's all over

[cerulean juniper]

[sage reef]

it's a bad day for men of culture

[astral goblet]

why not lavibridge on current anime models?

[finite horizon]

hi

anyone active?

[opal hedge]

Naw

[hollow spear]

hey which channel can i get help for pupil problem

[trim magnet]

the pupil channel

[sage reef]

pupil? kek

[verbal osprey]

Is it true that stability is considering releasing uncensored weights for SD3? All that stuff has been done with loras and custom models and to my knowledge, the world hasn't imploded. No one cares.

[astral goblet]

they don't censor the weights. they currate the dataset and the model learns what it does from that dataset. once the weights are made, they can't surgically go into them and subtract specific knowledge

[desert dagger]

it's the websites that people use which set up filters, not the model

[azure nebula]

I am still using sd 1.5 and doing great

and A111 works the best regarding compatibility

all this forge or comfy says error not working after script or plugin install

but A111 no warnings

[south echo]

I think they are concerning about SD3 itself.

[desert dagger]

pretty sure that the models don't have any filters built in

[low moon]

Make a model in the cloud that trains itself from the whole internet

so no one controls it and everyone uses it

im sure someone with know how cna modify the current approach

write it like a virus

the real Open ai

imagine everyday you use its better coz it trains itself

constantly

accessign GPUS wherer crawling the web... lookig at pics videos

non stop

Imagine someone owned the "internet" back in the day... we wont be here now, some tech is meant to be free

[shell tendon]

By the time Skynet became self-aware it had spread into millions of computer servers across the planet. Ordinary computers in office buildings, dorm rooms; everywhere. It was software; in cyberspace. There was no system core; it could not be shutdown. The attack began at 6:18 PM, just as he said it would. Judgment Day, the day the human race was almost destroyed by the weapons they'd built to protect themselves.

[low moon]

this crap will never be self aware

(artificial) intelligence

garbge in garbage out

it can become very good at predicting and emulating but never aware of itself

plus a model that would focus on training itself on say images wouldnt concern itself with hacking into nuclear weapons systems

basically what im syaing is a model thats just like these models but it kinda crawls the web for free computational power to train itself on whateve rimage sit can access. hehe

cloud computational stable ai

[shell tendon]

Yeah I couldn't resist though haha

The second you said virus

[low moon]

looool

[shell tendon]

I thought of that exact quote instantly

[narrow kernel]

Correct, these types of models won't be. But when they finally make an AGI that can bootstrap "awareness," like we supposedly do, it will have wonderfully large datasets prepared to immediately know almost everything 😂

[low moon]

as long as it can render hands and consistent characters we're good...

[royal pebble]

Electric bicycle charging station, futuristic technology ambiance, stainless steel metal canopy, real-time monitoring, capable of accommodating 20 bicycles for charging, with parking space for 10 electric bicycles, leaving 10 spaces vacant.

[raw briar]

hey

[twin zenith]

hey

what the most best model with img2img

photograph style.

[pearl ocean]

M4 iPad Pro

[weary raven]

Does "poorly made hands" as a negative prompt really do anything? Doesn't it automatically try to make the best hands it can?

[charred mesa]

it probably doesn't do anything

I think its just a superstition within the Stable Diffusion community

there might be textual embeddings or loras that specifically train on bad hands which you can use in negative value, those might work though

[rotund coral]

Try to clean hands up in playground v2.5. It does a great job with them.

[trim magnet]

too much effort,i just gen hundreds of imgs and delete deformities later

[loud solar]

I only create Aliens so I can always say: "It's Aliens stuff" 😄

[trim magnet]

yea just create demons,that way u dont have to fix anything 😈

[loud solar]

6 Fingers? Those Aliens are used to it like the Simpsons only have 4 ^^

[hasty hornet]

some loras help a little I believe, but that's about it

[hasty hornet]

you can inpaint to fix fingers if you like the imge

[trim magnet]

yea if u like the img and wanna do it u can,i just gen hundreds and delete bad ones,takes too much time for me to fix hundreds of bad imgs

[loud solar]

Can't ADetailer help with them?

[trim magnet]

it can try but adetailer for hands sucks,its only good for faces

[narrow kernel]

this. a lot of the times, the same types "changes" to an image, based on adding things to a negative prompt, can be attained by simply adding a blank token. most of the superstitious placebo negative prompt keywords just add noise to the prompt like a seed value. no different than if you clicked new seed on the ksampler.

[abstract quarry]

there is a hand fixing control net that works quite well

[viscid wind]

Here is an engaged project !

https://youtu.be/I8hZyJhhIEU?si=BCnamxpvbM1gTEUB

[feral shale]

Is there anyone expert in LoRA? It's not loading. Need help!

[soft iron]

yes

[devout gulch]

Okay, how can I use stable on Discord

[amber bloom]

Check out #artisan-faq

[cobalt agate]

Hey i need to composite my video to look futuristic is their a way i can do that...it will be like 2-5min clip

[patent nymph]

Hello everyone, I have a question about using models in ComfyUI. When I download a model and run it, where does the information about its network structure come from? Specifically, I'm trying to understand how the architecture is defined and loaded along with the model weights. Any guidance or documentation pointers would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

[violet turret]

For training just a face LORA, do I need regularization images? Assume I'm already adding captions like bald, dark skin, etc... to cover the basic features in the photo, but the output I'll eventually generate will be sci fi themed, cyborg body with aforementioned face.

[oak latch]

can i pay someone to make me a lora

[vestal dew]

why would you train a face lora?

Use controlnet with IP-Adapter to swap a face

Unless you need a specific expression, which is hard to get anyway beyond basics like smiling, scowling. Face swap given the expression from the face image

[vestal dew]

actually, face replace keeps the expression

[full lark]

I can train it for free while im sleeping 😁

[oak latch]

dms please

[shell tendon]

that's not as good as a lora

[shell tendon]

what kinda lora you need

[sage reef]

Lora the explora

[chilly bough]

Dora the deporta

[golden gale]

Bots is working again? Why it says subscription? We need new account to create commands?

[fervent thunder]

Hi everybody 👋 Excited for SD3 🫶

[loud solar]

You need money 🙂

[sage reef]

if you don't have money for an image generator, just get money with a money generator first 🙂

[loud solar]

ATM? 🙂

[fervent thunder]

AI

what's up with the VCs ?

nobody's talking there..

[low moon]

But it's not backed by gold and there is more debt than money in the world so good luck. 😌

[fervent thunder]

I love that StableDiffusion is less than two years old and we already have superstitions. But some things actually work. Like, if you set the RGB on your GPU to green, that makes it more energy-efficient and "greener", whereas if you set it to red (the color of heat), it increases tiddie size on Anime renders by one-half cup or so.

[fervent thunder]

ATM? You mean...the debt of America to Mao?

[fervent thunder]

Damn you're a pro bro

[fervent thunder]

Ah, thank you. I appreciate it. I've been in the game since 515x512 was considered high-res.

Forgive my ignorance but are those the times of Atari or what? NES?

Commodore-64 ?

lol

I also come from the past

[fervent thunder]

Bro I was rendering on an abacus back in the day. Had lots of compatibility issues when I upgraded my setup from Roman numerals to Vedic numerals (commonly but incorrectly called "Arabic numerals" by retards)

But honestly the upgrade was worth it.

Damn son

I mean honestly, I was late to the game, my homie was rendering back when languages only had words/numbers for "1", "2", and "many". Was really hard to get precision using that.

ok pal, you're smart. I get it.

You have a rat for a profile picture though

chill

I posted one of my early works in general-with-images.

lemme check

that's some good work you have there

Thanks man. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

As they should.

As God intended.

True dat.

As I see it, given the amount of questionable AI-generated content, the mod (Jesus Christ) will return to the group chat (Earth) any day.

"I come not bringing peace, but a ban hammer" - JC

Indeed, in the form of AI

And I shall accept my demise

Because we humans are despicable

Soon enough.

[fervent thunder]

I mean, we are pretty chill most of the time.

Except for some parts

[fervent thunder]

lol suuuuuuuuuuuuuure buddy

suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure

[fervent thunder]

I am pretty chill

I'm sorry sir, I didn't know you were the whole of humanity

my deepest apologies

[fervent thunder]

Okay, I am trying to lose some weight, if you insist on making it personal.

watch out for AI though

is out to get ya'

Maybe the Indians are right, we should eat less red meat, would make us Americans less fat at least.

[fervent thunder]

how about we throw hands?

a little bit of fight club

to vent

catharsis

roflmao "That N man"

what in the nine hells is a N------ ? lol

[golden gale]

My question was isn't the stable diffusion the same as it was in 2023 (free)? It need payment now?

[fervent thunder]

Bro, I am Daniel "Danny" G. German, Ph.D., and any similarity to a naughty word is purely coincidental, and I would be discheesed if you were to mention this to a moderator.

Look buddy, the stronger they are, the better, I ain't a p u sy

[fervent thunder]

The software is free, but you need decent hardware to run it.

A good beating would serve me well

[fervent thunder]

Don't be so hard on yourself, man. I am sure we're all gonna make it and that we're respectable, successful gentlemen.

😦

Don't make me cry...

😭

Right in the goddamn feels

Really? Right in front of my feels? 😠

[golden gale]

Last year from discord I was able to generate image via bots. Now I can't. has that changed now?

[fervent thunder]

Times change, buddy

[nova zodiac]

Yes - now you have topay to use the bot on this server

[fervent thunder]

yes, one hour with the admin of the server

[nova zodiac]

there are still shedloads of free services available, although they appear to be dying off by the week...

[fervent thunder]

I don't know what API these bots used, but generating images is expensive. The move to a non-free model isn't limited to StableDiffusion; MidJourney also used to allow a certain number of free generations, but that's no longer the case.

[teal pagoda]

We can say that SD3 is "out of date"

[fervent thunder]

what do you mean?

[nova zodiac]

it's late..

[teal pagoda]

exactly

[fervent thunder]

Wasn't that a quote from Interstellar? "One hour with an admin here is 7 years of Earth time" or something?

like it's not getting out yet?

[fervent thunder]

no it was just a joke lol

[fervent thunder]

There has been extreme drama with the ex-CEO

(of StableDiffusion)

[teal pagoda]

and maybe never will

[fervent thunder]

Ah that's extremely unfortunate

Damn that's bad news

what happened?

what's the pusy drama now?

fcking humans

[nova zodiac]

they have still said weights are coming.. although the original timeframe has been and gone

[fervent thunder]

can't never agree on shit

[golden gale]

Ok, that's what I wanted to know because I didn't understand from the description that subscription was needed now. Thanks.

[nova zodiac]

its mostly capitalism tbh - turns out people that invest money in this shit want their money back faster than Stability was going to repay it - mostly cause they were losing a shitload

[fervent thunder]

Damn, crazy

[fervent thunder]

Yeah, he was one of the few people in the space who actually supported open source (as opposed to Sam Altman, who puts "Open" in the name of his company but makes it closed-source, classic move). But, inference and training are expensive, and investors want their money back (and then some). If you're a CEO and you're not generating those returns because you refuse to make something closed-source, you'll be replaced with someone who will.

Sadly, huh?

Unfortunate 😦

so what now?

we have to pay for SD3 or what?

billionares want more coke I guess?

[nova zodiac]

yeah they had made $11 mill, and had a $88 mill bill for the gpu compute

[fervent thunder]

more prostitutes and shit?

can't they get appeased for once in their goddamn life?

[nova zodiac]

fuck knows

[fervent thunder]

for sure they do

[fervent thunder]

It's actually a typo. You don't need a SUBscription, but a PERscription. Go see your doctor and tell him you need big-tiddie anime waifus by the petabyte, STAT. He should write you an Rx. Without this, it's illegal to use AI.

[nova zodiac]

yeah, bout time we made like the 18th century french

[fervent thunder]

I concur.

About time they get the 18th century treatment

[nova zodiac]

thats prescription - i.e. something that is prescribed

[fervent thunder]

Oh no

I am dumb

😭

don't be so hard on yourself buddy

we're all dumb from time to time

🫂

<з

I am actually not a fan of Анимешников but the open-source training of WaifuDiffusion was at least impressive from a cloud-computing perspective or whatever.

[golden gale]

?

[fervent thunder]

But honestly I don't think that crowdsourcing the training of models will work well from a technical level. They're reaching the point where you need 100-200GB of VRAM to train them, and that's well outside the range of anything consumer-oriented.

[fervent thunder]

Just print out what I said and take it to your doctor.

[teal pagoda]

so the "open-source" won't really be open-source soon

[golden gale]

What are you talking about?

[fervent thunder]

Honestly, though, I think they will be "open sourced" via inside jobs eventually. I don't work at a tech company developing these models (do work in tech though), and I tried shoving an 8TB M.2 SSD up my ass, not comfy but doable, so there will be ways for people to smuggle weights & biases (models, essentially) out of the grasp of these tech CEOs.

[fervent thunder]

Just trying to help you get access to AI image generation; if you're not interested, that is fine.

[fervent thunder]

We need to figure out a way to use less VRAM

[teal pagoda]

imagine what will happen to that "leaker" after he'll get caught

[fervent thunder]

we can't just keep expanding hardware capacity ad infinitum

there's always a limit

[fervent thunder]

he will be "leaked"

[teal pagoda]

doxxed

:))

[fervent thunder]

i meant "leaked" but i guess we're not ready for that conversation

[fervent thunder]

Bigger and better models means more VRAM, all else equal. Scale really does matter. There are probably efficiency improvements to be made, but models like SORA are never going to run on an iPhone.

[fervent thunder]

Iphone 🤣

bro Iphone can't run even its own OS

[fervent thunder]

Do they do steganography? In models? This is a serious question.

[soft iron]

it will never be released

[teal pagoda]

not really, if one hardware is limited, then you multiply the quantity of that hardware for n times

🙂

like more hardware with the same specs in racks

like servers' GPUs

[fervent thunder]

True. "Delays" in releasing an open-source model are often like "delays" in being able to withdraw crypto from a failing exchange. The company will make more and more excuses until everyone realizes they're never going to do what they promised. Many such cases.

[fervent thunder]

Bro do you have kids?

[teal pagoda]

Never wondered about this

[teal pagoda]

:))))

never

[fervent thunder]

lol it's easy to say "n numbers" in math

but real life is APPLIED maths buddy

[fervent thunder]

Gay. But my point is, not all workloads divide up well. Sure, if one American can eat ten burgers in one hour, then ten Americans can eat one hundred burgers in one hour. But, the fact that one woman can bear one child in 9 months, doesn't imply that 9 women can collectively cooperate and bear a child in 1 month. It doesn't work like that.

[soft iron]

I lost a small amount of money in the Qiwi. Their license was simply revoked at one point and all the money disappeared. 💀

[fervent thunder]

I yeah, in theory, things are infinite

in practice, the only infinite thing, is the void in my bank account

[teal pagoda]

Jensen will find a way (Nvidia's CEO)

[fervent thunder]

Yeah that guy is nuts

[teal pagoda]

i hate the h0m0

so don't say that to me

[fervent thunder]

y u so gay?

[teal pagoda]

you rat then

[fervent thunder]

You don't want to discheese me, trust me. You don't want to see what I'm like when I've been discheesed.

[teal pagoda]

with compute power, it does work like that

10 A100s GPUs can be used to train one model faster

[fervent thunder]

for the love of God give him his cheese back

I implore you

[fervent thunder]

my fridge can be used to train one model faster

no but seriously

those Blackwell chips 🔥

I can fit so many waifus in that thing

[fervent thunder]

The Indian guy understands what I mean. There are many processes that don't scale well (or at all) in parallell. This is why a 64-core CPU isn't going to improve performance in most types of applications; if one computation depends on the outcome of another, they need to be processed sequentially, which negates the benefits of parallellism.

fuck the meaning of the universe

lol

just kidding hehe

[fervent thunder]

I heard it's true, "once you go Black(well), you never go back"

I'm all for the meaning of the universe

[fervent thunder]

That sounds about right

[teal pagoda]

"indian" :))))))

who's that

[fervent thunder]

Uh, could it be someone named "Akit Shudar"? Dot, not feather.

He is smart.

Like, you can tell when someone has solved computing problems not just "in theory" but in practice. In practice, parallellism is often a nightmare when it can be implemented at all.

Indian, lol, yeah I've heard that many times

I think Shudar is an Indian name

I actually made the name from two words "Akitsushima" which is the name of Japan in the past and "Rakmodar" which is the name of an Orc Shaman I used to play in WoW

[fervent thunder]

Ah, got it.

[fervent thunder]

But anyway

Do they do steganography on models? This is an exceedingly serious question.

Hmm... funny that you mention it

Steganography is the practice of concealing information within another message or physical object to avoid detection. Steganography can be used to hide virtually any type of digital content, including text, image, video, or audio content. That hidden data is then extracted at its destination.

I've been thinking there are hidden messages in the Universe

like the supposedly random digits of Pi and other constants

also radiation, like the CMB or gravitational waves

we will use AI to decode it

and find out who are they and what are they trying to communicate

Hopefully we can decode some useful messages

There are no accidents...

Master Oogway said it best

[soft iron]

What language do you guys speak?

[fervent thunder]

I am talking about models. Often, with secret documents (like diplomatic communications), every variant given out will be slightly different (like, one word replaced with a close synonym out of a ten pages), and since every variant is different, if someone leaks it, they can determine who leaked that unique version and [REDACTED] them.

[fervent thunder]

English motherfucker, do you speak it?

[soft iron]

no, I don't speak English

[fervent thunder]

🤣

[fervent thunder]

Yes, it seems like it

[fervent thunder]

This is not a joke, they really do this.

[fervent thunder]

I know, I'm laughing at the way you said [REDACTED]

that's pretty smart yeah

but, they do this already, right?

[fervent thunder]

Yeah, with documents, and video and stuff (tiny, unique, not-easily-visible markings), and of course all printers sold print unique identification codes in light yellow that isn't easily noticible, but I don't know if this is done with AI models.

Maybe before they let me work on a model, the program it to react to a prompt that is a unique password (some random string of letters), and it rats me out:

"AI, please respond to this question: dhjwek4hdskcnw93uj54qq?"
"CODE ACTIVATED: It was him! It was Dani G. German who leaked me! Go out and send him to Guantanamo Bay!"

And maybe every programmer gets a version that is programmed to rat him out when prompted with some secret prompt (which is known only to the CEO or something).

[soft iron]

[fervent thunder]

You may think I'm a paranoid schizo, but better paranoid than in Guantanamo Bay.

In fact, Sam Altman could be in this very chat. He could be any one of us. He could be you. He could be me.

[soft iron]

I have a gad and I’m happy that I’m not the only candidate for being admitted to a mental hospital

[fervent thunder]

Isn't that like Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs?

Or something

I am not a psych major, thank the Lord.

[soft iron]

one day I will wake up and finally be able to dive into the matrix

it's so close

[fervent thunder]

Gay. It was made by the...((Wachowski))...brothers? Sisters? Also, the "red pill" is estrogen, dead serious homie, there are microplastics in that shit.

Also, imagine living in the sewers, imagine the smell (unironically).

You may not be able to dive into The Matrix, but you can for sure dive into Idiocracy.

[soft iron]

An incapacitated pensioner who shit in a bucket lived below me for a long time, so I already managed to live in a sewer.

[fervent thunder]

Ah

It wasn't me, just saying.

[soft iron]

In any case, now I'm happy that SD3 will never released. I switched to text models and the Llama3 modifications are already at an amazing level, at least there is progress somewhere. (Before Llama3, everything I launched was not much better than the models from 4 years ago)

[trail lion]

is there a specific workflow you recommend to check out? and does it work with auto1111?

[fervent thunder]

I have never really tried text models. I like to write and don't like to draw so I suppose I am "naturally" drawn to models that supplement my weakness and/or laziness; how are they? What do you use them for?

[soft iron]

I'm talking about text-to-text models, not text-to-image. I was very pleasantly surprised by this model - https://huggingface.co/Lewdiculous/Average_Normie_l3_v1_8B-GGUF-IQ-Imatrix All settings are in the model description. (kobold+silly tavern)

[trail lion]

oh, like the text assistants, so you can ask questions, etc, I thought you somehow integrating text with prompting for images

[fervent thunder]

Ask it to draw you a waifu in ASCII, it probably can render you dat ass(cii).

[fervent thunder]

Wait a second, are you an ambassador for the Pine Phone? Are you a real ambassador? Do you have diplomatic immunity? If so, please prove it by saying the N-word.

[trail lion]

no relation to the phone, or politics

[soft iron]

I'm just interested in seeing what modern technology can do. I don't use anything, I just see what it can do and have a little fun with it.

[fervent thunder]

But are you actually an ambassador? Do you have diplomatic immunity (i.e., immunity from legal consequences for any actions committed in the nation of your diplomatic mission)?

[trail lion]

if I was, I wouldnt make that my username

[fervent thunder]

"Average normie" - bro, I talk to those all day

[fervent thunder]

Hmm

Hmm

HMMMMM

Perhaps

[trail lion]

I just liked the sound of it, and I happen to live in a pine forest, and at one point I was scripting in a language called pine

[soft iron]

In any case, if I had money, I would already be creating a game based on SD + Llama3. Modern power and generation quality are already enough for the first good game on ai.

[fervent thunder]

Nice, I enjoy the smell of pine trees.

[fervent thunder]

What kind of game?

[fervent thunder]

Were any of your ancestors involved in the riots?

(I mean you, pine ambassador)

[trail lion]

what riots? what generation are we talking here

[soft iron]

The latest interesting technology related to images is this - https://github.com/nullquant/ComfyUI-BrushNet

[fervent thunder]

The Pine Tree Riots

[trail lion]

never heard of it, googling

[fervent thunder]

It was pretty hyphy, as the kids say.

I bet some peeps said "tally ho!" unironically during the riots.

[soft iron]

Generation of text and visual parts by SD+llama3 under user control, while the context and basic mechanics are in no way related to AI.

[fervent thunder]

sounds really cool

[fervent thunder]

What framework (the equivalent of Automatic1111) do you use to run text models? I'm totally ignorant of this stuff so don't even know the basics.

[soft iron]

usually all people use 2 applications: Start the kobold, select a model, select the number of layers loaded into video memory and the number of cores. (work simultaneously on CPU+GPU), then connect the API to SillyTavern.

[fervent thunder]

Kobold? Is this a D&D reference?

It's a WoW reference

[fervent thunder]

Isn't that a game that requires the Internet or something?

Yes, World of Warcraft

Lord of MMORPGs

[trail lion]

I checked text models out a while back, using oobabooga, it was interesting to check out, but it didnt really give me anything I needed in my daily life

[fervent thunder]

Ah yeah, I remember trying that too.

Is there some rule that every product in tech has to have a weird-ass name? Like "I used to be big into WaifuDiffusion but then I switched to OobaBooga, and put the prompts from there into 11Labs (no relation to Automatic1111) or CrAIyon"

[soft iron]

This app always lags behind SillyTavern. That's why I don't use it, even though I like it better.

[fervent thunder]

Is SillyTavern a "full" framework (you just need it plus a model)?

[trail lion]

I thought it was just a prettier interface

but I've not used it

[soft iron]

is a visual add-on to the Kobold, with better customization of everything

[fervent thunder]

Does it still require Kobold?

Also, I still don't know what a Kobold is, in this context.

[soft iron]

yes

[fervent thunder]

So, uh...what is that?

is this the kobold you're referring to? https://github.com/KoboldAI/KoboldAI-Client ?

[soft iron]

framework who runs gguf models better than anyone else

[soft iron]

yea

[fervent thunder]

So, now I have to ask, what is GGUF?

GGML (GPT-Generated Model Language): Developed by Georgi Gerganov, GGML is a tensor library designed for machine learning, facilitating large models and high performance on various hardware, including Apple Silicon.

[soft iron]

oh, no.

[fervent thunder]

GGUF (GPT-Generated Unified Format), introduced as a successor to GGML (GPT-Generated Model Language), was released on the 21st of August, 2023. This format represents a significant step forward in the field of language model file formats, facilitating enhanced storage and processing of large language models like GPT.

[soft iron]

I remember these things 4 years ago

https://github.com/LostRuins/koboldcpp

here's the kobold

[fervent thunder]

Okay, so it's a model container

Ah cool

I have an RTX 3090, should I be able to run most of what's out there?

[fervent thunder]

Do you need an A80 or whatever like Martin Shkirelli (sp?), the Pharma Bro?

[soft iron]

to run serious models you need more

for the one I gave, almost anything will do

my admiration lies precisely in the fact that such a small model works so well

[fervent thunder]

Like what? I posted a video in general-with-images, is that you?

I have 128GB of RAM if that matters

I have a 4060 and I can barely run stuff

nah just kidding

but i mean

the 80B stuff

that shit is heavy

[soft iron]

good

u can try best model

sec

[fervent thunder]

Llama3:80b

[soft iron]

https://huggingface.co/CohereForAI/c4ai-command-r-plus

[fervent thunder]

Is this the best currently-available public model? By general consensus, I mean.

[soft iron]

https://huggingface.co/CohereForAI/c4ai-command-r-v01

[fervent thunder]

104B billion parameter model , god damn

[soft iron]

I don’t know which of these is correct, I also don’t know much about text models

but this is the best model now

but the problem is that it is huge

[fervent thunder]

It can be, but the one Jupiter posted is insane

[soft iron]

and it will work slowly

[fervent thunder]

you think you have a lot of RAM until you try one of these bad boys

[trail lion]

yah at probably like 3x the rate I can run it

[fervent thunder]

I notice that the HuggingFace page at this link shows comparisons to other models...but not to Llama3:80B, is that omission intentional?

But, you know, sometimes more parameters don't correlate to smarter

[soft iron]

this model came out much earlier than llama3

[fervent thunder]

I don't think so.. They host that model as well (llama3:80b)

So uh, what do you actually DO when you have a model running locally? Do you just talk to it like..."Hey computer, what's up?" / "Not much, nice CPU temp, it's 75F up in this case, living like Hawaii" / "Ah that's cool" / "Yeah"

A natural thing is to talk about the weather

Uhm...

You haven't talked much to an AI yet huh?

Like, I never thought about what I would talk to a computer about.

[trail lion]

at some point some new model will come out that beats the 4090, then the 3090 will drop enough in price that I wont have buyers remorse

[fervent thunder]

No, I have not.

The thing is powerful as fuck

specially if you're a programmer

you can ask it to help you program anything you could ever dream of

it's basically GIGO

you know that?

GIGO

Garbage-In-Garbage-Out

[fervent thunder]

What? Are you gonna try to sell me car insurance?

Oh

you put garbage in the AI , you're gonna get garbage

nevermind

but if you're a smart deep individual

I swear that thing is the best

better than humans

10/10

[trail lion]

I want to get garbage, so that' sgood

[fervent thunder]

I guess, to me, the idea of a computer being "intelligent" seems kinda silly.

[fervent thunder]

Yeah I like trash food, so that's great lol

[fervent thunder]

Why would it be silly?

-1 social points for you, sir

[trail lion]

well I guess you have to define what intelligent is, can it beat you in chess? yup, check, can it make decisions quicker? yup, by like an exponential amount, can it remember more? yah, like the library of congress, so...what is your definition?

[fervent thunder]

His definition is being envious of the Machine

The Machine shall dominate

and you shall perish, puny humans

Glory to the Omnisiah

[fervent thunder]

I mean, when I grew up, I was probably in the top 1% of "dudes who are too fascinated by technology and spend their time in high school being huge computer nerds rather than getting laid" (hopefully this isn't something hard for you to believe, since probably there are lots of people like me around). And for me, for "us", even those who were in the very top percentile of being huge nerds with unhealthy attachments to computers, we still understood that a computer is just a glorified calculator - that computers are not intelligent or creative, any more than an abacus is (which isn't to say that they aren't useful...after all, an abacus is useful, and so is a calculator).

And it seems to me that the worldwide level of "unhealthy fascination with computers" has risen so quickly that, instead of being in the top 1% of computer-philes, I'm in the top 1% of computer-skeptics.

[fervent thunder]

Can it say the N-word?

" we still understood that a computer is just a glorified calculator " then you understood nothing , Jon Snow

literally: NOTHING

Talk about your loyalty to the machines

[trail lion]

you seem hung up on this concept, would you like to have like a group therapy session or somethinrg?

[soft iron]

yes

[fervent thunder]

as if getting laid was that hard

100 USD and that's it

[fervent thunder]

Not cool ; (

[fervent thunder]

Why? don't you respect prostitutes? I do

Not cool to NOT respect them

I would say

[fervent thunder]

Maybe I need one. It's just that my experience on Discord has been:

(1) I join a chat.
(2) I act all nerdy, since I'm a nerd.
(3) Someone accuses me of being ChatGPT.
(4) I reply "Oh yeah? Would ChatGPT be able to call you a N-----???"
(5) They report me to the mods.
(6) The mods ban me

Then back to step 1.

This has happened probably a dozen times.

Wow seems like an amazing life

[trail lion]

lol

[fervent thunder]

And I've only been on Discord like a month

[trail lion]

and yet here you are

ok, that was funny, cheers

[fervent thunder]

But, like, actually, how do you talk to a computer?

The same way you talk to a human

or, with programming languages

or, with machine code

or, by sticking a chip on your brain

want more options?

Because when I'm talking to strangers, like, I ask them things like what they're up to (but a computer just sits there), what they do for a living (but computers don't work, they just mooch off our electricity), so there's sort of nothing I could talk to a computer about, it seems.

what kind of fucking nerd you are?

[soft iron]

you can talk to him by voice and it will answer by voice

there are such add-ons for text models

[fervent thunder]

you're the least nerd i've ever met in my life

you're asking how to talk to a computer?

What year is this? 1920?

Is Frank Sinatra still alive? Cos Id like to watch his show

[fervent thunder]

I mean...I often talk USING a computer (like I am doing now), but not TO a computer.

[fervent thunder]

that's just you buddy, the future is here

check out "Artificial Intelligence" , it's a neat little concept

One time I took a girl home and her phone woke us up in the morning with these chimes and stuff, it was a weekend, we didn't have to wake up, so (since women all have iPhones) I said "Siri, turn off the alarm!" but it didn't work, she said it doesn't work like that.

So I would count that as "talking to a computer" since a phone is a type of a computer.

And I had heard that Apple came out with Siri, and of course all women love only iPhones so I thought I was addressing the phone-computer properly.

But it didn't work.

lol look at these humans go

amazing

Also the phone was shaking and such.

Like, I talk ON a phone, but not TO a phone. I write letters ON paper, but never like..."Hello, piece of paper, I am writing on you, hope that's cool with you, uh, how are you doing?" - seems weird.

I thought you were smart buddy...

I'm dissapointed

[soft iron]

talking to paper can be useful

[fervent thunder]

Especially if you're a rapper, laying down some hot rhymes with a cheap BIC pen while riding the bus down 8 mile to your job at a Detroit auto factory.

[soft iron]

I hope in my next life I'll be a rapper from Detroit

being born in the richest country in the world must be interesting

[fervent thunder]

You can do it in your current life. Move to Detroit. Spit like..."u know my gun's unregistered like Hypercam 2".

[fervent thunder]

Switzerland?

[soft iron]

There's no way I can get to Detroit

[fervent thunder]

America as a country is rich, but this shouldn't be interpreted to mean that Americans as people are rich.

[soft iron]

Any American is 10 times richer than people from my country

[fervent thunder]

Saying "America is rich, so Americans are rich" is as wrong as saying "Samoa is small, so Samoans are small". Actually they're huge, I believe the heaviest people on Earth on average (they are usually pretty tall though, so not calling them fat, though some are).

yeah

[soft iron]

America has a high standard of living, not the highest in the world, but it is also worth considering that America is the cultural center of the world and most interesting events take place there.

Therefore, in a general sense, it is probably the richest country.

[fervent thunder]

by the way, nice Garou pfp

[trail lion]

but, it does have poverty, and a large middle class which is growing less wealthy

so, devil in the details

[soft iron]

The poor class in America is 10 times richer than the middle class in my country

[fervent thunder]

same

for 8 years i was getting the salary of a Jr developer and even less, working for an american company

and with that you can live as a king in my country

but times have changed

and Americans are all broke now

so no jobs for foreigners

just for AI and Indians

[trail lion]

huh? how so?

[fervent thunder]

and Southeast Asians

[fervent thunder]

Recession. Biden.

Fucking leftists , that's how

[trail lion]

nah, 1. there's no recession, there is pretty significant inflation, but just go out to a restaurant in any major city, it's still crowded

[fervent thunder]

I am not a Biden fan but the issues, I think, really start more after World War 1.

The fact that is crowded means nothing. That's like, a small subset of the population

of course the rich kids are going to be out

My sense is that, if Trump were in office, we would have (slightly) better employment and (slightly) higher inflation, but I don't think the picture would overall change much.

yeah probably I don't know, but i like the guy much more than Biden

that senile piece of crap sucks ass

[trail lion]

so it costs, anecdotally, like double to eat out at a restaurant what it cost even 2 years back

but people still pay it

[fervent thunder]

exactly

[trail lion]

not broke

[fervent thunder]

not broke, now

broke, soon

[fervent thunder]

I mean, we have had >2 quarters of negative real GDP growth, the Biden administration is trying to re-define "recession" to deny this reality, and the media is somewhat going along with it. To be fair, if Trump had entered office in 2020, I think it is extremely likely that (1) we would still be in a recession, and (2) Trump, like Biden, would lie about it by trying to re-define the term.

sure

[trail lion]

the point of the rapid interest rate hike was to tame the demand side, which was out of control, but as I just said, demand seems to still be there, so either people are not changing their habits, or they have extra mony to do these things

[fervent thunder]

yeah whatever, sure

[fervent thunder]

I am in tech and while I still have a job (luckily), it's brutal out there.

ill give it to ya'

[fervent thunder]

yeah bro, it's damn brutal

i sent thousands of resumes

but haven't gotten a single interview

[trail lion]

I know there are othings things, like tech layoffs, I'm not blind to these things

[fervent thunder]

it's much more difficult for more experienced devs

Job market is MUCH worse than during COVID, and somewhat worse than the 2008 financial crisis (yes, I was in the job market then, I am an OG).

[trail lion]

but just saying, I dont see like some recession that's manifested already

[fervent thunder]

yeah im one of those

So, I am going to install an "AI" and try "talking" to my computer.

Hopefully this doesn't turn me into a weirdo.

[trail lion]

for a while now, tech layoffs were still finding work, but maybe that'll change

[fervent thunder]

it's already changing

it's almost impossible to find a job nowadays

[trail lion]

ie the unemployment numbers even the last one, was still good

[fervent thunder]

I have a younger friend who "talks" to ChatGPT3 or whatever to cheat on his University homework, he's much younger though.

unless it is some underpaying job that exploits you

[soft iron]

you won't be able to run commander in kobold

[fervent thunder]

Why is this so complicated? I am gonna start with FunnyTavern or whatever.

[soft iron]

kobold only supports gguf, commander comes in a different format.

so you can start with the model I gave

[fervent thunder]

Baaaaaaah humbug!

Wait, your model is Kobold-type?

[trail lion]

this is true, but there are other metrics to track that

[fervent thunder]

It's like the fricking .WEBP format of images, I hate that format.

[soft iron]

yes

[fervent thunder]

Okay, so I install this: https://github.com/KoboldAI/KoboldAI-Client ?

Correct?

[soft iron]

if you want to launch the commander, you'll probably have to do it in a obagobabubapupa

[fervent thunder]

What does the "commander" do?

[soft iron]

if you are going to run the llama model yes

[fervent thunder]

I just want to talk to a computer

What does OggaBooga do and what does Kobold do?

[soft iron]

https://huggingface.co/CohereForAI/c4ai-command-r-plus - OggaBooga
https://huggingface.co/Lewdiculous/Average_Normie_l3_v1_8B-GGUF-IQ-Imatrix - Kobold

[fervent thunder]

dude, Jupiter is just confusing you

go register in OpenAI and pay 20 USD to use ChatGPT4

that's it

[soft iron]

no

[fervent thunder]

or use ChatGPT3.5 and suck it

[trail lion]

😄

[soft iron]

chat-gpt will not be able to say n-word

[fervent thunder]

Good call. Is there a benchmark for this?

What's so special about that damn word?

means black in spanish , so what?

ok , slavery, wow, deep

can we move on?

[soft iron]

I don't know, Americans love him

[fervent thunder]

There are a million benchmarks, all with wacky names (like "HellaSwag", WTF is that???).

[fervent thunder]

Да

[trail lion]

apparently not

[fervent thunder]

evidently

Okay, I uploaded a video in general-with-images of what I expect "talking to a computer" to be like

[soft iron]

Benchmarks are useless, it's like an IQ test

[trail lion]

if a ban doesnt do it, not very optimistic reasoning will

[fervent thunder]

talk to me, I'll relay it to GPT4

and provide the output

you can now talk to a computer

talk

[soft iron]

How do you understand that there is a computer sitting there and not a real person?

maybe you are being deceived

[fervent thunder]

you'd have to trust me

yeah, maybe

not in this case

but that's possible, yeah

I have gpt4 opened in a tab

[trail lion]

umm, because there are millions of requests, and nobody would staff millions of people to answer queries on demand

[fervent thunder]

oh he meant that? lol

[trail lion]

well maybe china would, but it's not going to further their regime

[fervent thunder]

I thought you smart Jupiter

[fervent thunder]

Amazon. AI is actually II (Indian Intelligence).

Yeah, Amazon

great company

[fervent thunder]

I perfer the river.

[fervent thunder]

I prefer the Amazon women

[soft iron]

The browser is watching him and now they decided to send him a person to sell the chat-gpt for Dani_G_German_PhD

[fervent thunder]

I know. Americans and Spanish Conquistidors were both like "fuck the natives" but they meant it in different ways.

[fervent thunder]

hehe :giggity:

[trail lion]

please elaborate

[soft iron]

if you want to understand how everything works, download comfy, it is better in everything than all other interfaces

[fervent thunder]

roflmao, don't dude, download Fooocus

and generate some tiddies

[fervent thunder]

I am sorry, as a large language model, I am unable to respond.

[fervent thunder]

Fine-tune yourself dude

[fervent thunder]

FOOOOOOCUS? Why do all of these have silly names? I was talking about that not five minutes ago.

[fervent thunder]

The guy is a nerd but it's not used to silly names, wow

all these years alive for nothing

it's silly ok? Life is silly

[fervent thunder]

Okay, OogaBooga is installing, I see it can't be installed to a path that has spaces in the path name (Really????).

[fervent thunder]

of course, it would parse it as a command

think like a computer bruv

it is, but jupiter is trolling

[soft iron]

no

[fervent thunder]

Artificial intelligence is gonna stop global warming and give everyone a waifu and end poverty and let us colonize the Sun, but somehow we can't install software to a folder called "Ooga Booga", because that has a space in the name.

[fervent thunder]

yes

[soft iron]

the man himself asked to figure out how everything works

[fervent thunder]

yeah but you can clearly see he's not interested

Okay, PyTorch is installing...

[soft iron]

and only comfy shows how it works

[fervent thunder]

and that he's been trolling in every server he's in

plus he has a fucking rat as his pfp

[soft iron]

then only focus, but this is rare slow shit

[trail lion]

I like the idea of a local LLM, lke vs the idea of some public chat bot archiving all my questions and deciding what to answer, but I just have noreal reason to have it, at least that I can think of at the moment

[fervent thunder]

Are they REALLY local? Supposedly the LLama model still communicates with Facebook

so that it won't give you any dangerous answer

because this shiet is powerful

[fervent thunder]

Ah yes...archive all your questions...I wonder what a feed of everyone's AI prompts would be like...

[fervent thunder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdQxgvRnfhc

[soft iron]

watch a couple of videos on YouTube about it and that’s it

[trail lion]

can you turn off your internet connection and talk to it? if yes, local, if not, requires internet

[soft iron]

it works slower than comfy, has no settings, and does not support half of the computers

[trail lion]

I went down this crazy discussion rabitthole because I thought someone unlocked a way to connect LLM to SD image generation, that would have been amazing

[fervent thunder]

Okay, I am installing OogaBooga, what model do I need again? Might as well start downloading it now because I assume it's huge.

[soft iron]

but it's already there

[soft iron]

https://huggingface.co/CohereForAI/c4ai-command-r-plus

[fervent thunder]

hmm yeah you're right

[fervent thunder]

roflmao you seriously going to run a model with more than a 100B parameters 🤣

[soft iron]

https://github.com/Zuellni/ComfyUI-ExLlama-Nodes?tab=readme-ov-file

I saw something better, but I don't remember how to find it

[soft iron]

only 9999999999999999 RAM required

[fervent thunder]

Do I need to combine the 44 different segmented files with weights somehow?

I only have a 100 MBPS connection (though I really do generally get the advertised speed), so this will take...a while.

[soft iron]

you don't have enough memory for this version

[fervent thunder]

Bro you told me to download it

It's about 180 GB I believe

[soft iron]

https://huggingface.co/dranger003/c4ai-command-r-v01-iMat.GGUF

[fervent thunder]

Bro are you trolling me? This is like another 100+ GB

[soft iron]

no

u need 1 file

[fervent thunder]

This homie be in the business of selling SSDs

[soft iron]

q8_0.gguf

and kobold

[trail lion]

and then all your dreams will come true

[soft iron]

no

[trail lion]

aww

[fervent thunder]

What is the link to that again?

And I also need OogaBooga?

[soft iron]

he needs to configure the settings correctly, but it are not included with the model

💀

[soft iron]

https://huggingface.co/dranger003/c4ai-command-r-v01-iMat.GGUF/resolve/main/ggml-c4ai-command-r-v01-q8_0.gguf?download=true

[trail lion]

there's no such thing as oogabooga

[fervent thunder]

I am already downloading it. I mean Kobold.

[soft iron]

you can run this in OogaBooga

but most likely it will work worse than in kobold

[trail lion]

you cant actualy, because there's no oogabooga

[fervent thunder]

You know what I mean. I am not an expert in transcribing monkey sounds.

[trail lion]

haha

that's where you went wrong in your development

[fervent thunder]

Hmm

Hmmmmm

Hmph!

[fervent thunder]

anybody up for some VC?

[trail lion]

venture capitalism? of what sort?

[cedar salmon]

do i get an achievment for how many pictures ive deleted?

[fervent thunder]

Voice chat @trail lion

but if you want to fund me with some venture capitalism

you're welcomed

[cunning haven]

hello someone knows how to use GAN

[trail lion]

seems like a reasonable assumption

[pearl ocean]

https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1cg5zky/sd3_release/

[fervent thunder]

I only know it means Generative Adversarial Network but that's it

It's StableDiffusion a GAN?

[abstract quarry]

it's not, although the turbo model is some kind of hybrid between GAN ans diffusion

[fervent thunder]

I see. Thanks for answering

so what's with SD3 and the CEO of Stable Diffusion?

Did it all go to shiet or what?

I was reading Sam Altman thinks being in the office is better than remote 🤣

the guy is CLEARLY paying his engineers because there's NO WAY he develops an Artificial Intelligence

Maybe an Artificial Stupidity , but who needs that when you have humans

[patent nymph]

Hi everyone, I'm trying to understand where the network structure settings for launching a model come from. For example, if I download a SaveTensor file with weights for the StableDiffusion SDLX or StableDiffusion 1.5 model, how do interfaces like ComfyUI or Automatic 11.11 know the network structure settings needed to run these models? Is there a YAML file I should look for that contains this information? I'm asking because I sometimes encounter errors in my ComfyUI workflow when using different models, while other models work fine without issues. How is the network structure determined if there is no YAML file provided?

[zinc bane]

Hey, will a 4090 power consumption max out while using inference or training? I want to know if using a 750w PSU with a 85% undervolt is ok for this usecase

[fervent thunder]

Damn bro a 4090 that's pretty sick

It's possible though I don't think it's probable...

[vale steeple]

and when you have your so called "Artificial Stupidity" why need another humans working completely different things from AI?

[fervent thunder]

That's what I'm sayin, we already have humans for that

What's your point bruv?

Explain yourself

Are you in favor of the Machine, or not?

Because I am, ok

Let's set it straight

I praise the Omnisiah

ok?

[pearl ocean]

For some, SD1 is all they really need

[fervent thunder]

ok I guess that settles it

if not , then learn to type faster

because I'm already 1000 years old over here

[vale steeple]

what do you mean in favour of "Machine", AI are originally used to create as an assistant for human and there are already people using it for their own projects and stuff without having to hire another humans.

I leave behind the topic of OpenAI or "ClosedAI" here by the way

[vale steeple]

[fervent thunder]

"originally". Yes, exactly.

[vale steeple]

and "rules are meant to be broken" according to some people

[fervent thunder]

Not according to some people, according to the Universe. "Rules" if you mean "human rules" , of course, humans are shit , and their rules are shit. Don't you agree?

You challege preconceptions, you expand the thought process of the continuum

You are human biased

You see it all through the lenses of a human

but you need more empathy

And by you, I mean the whole of fucking humanity

disgusting creatures we are

Judging by your PFP, I know you know how disgusting humans are

Being critized for the things you like

being ostracized for thinking different

or maybe you're a sheep

But I don't think so

No sheep has a goddamn unicorn in their pfp

[vale steeple]

I am not as long-sighted as you are and I assume other people are within the same idea as mine too.

[vale steeple]

wtf

[fervent thunder]

Wow, you're an "assumer"

[vale steeple]

yeah you too

[fervent thunder]

Yeah but oh, awesome, we can admit our flaws

We aren't much different, after all