💬｜general-chat

[karmic cedar]

i’ve done plenty of ketamine, so I not only know what you’re talking about but i’ve been deeper than that and it’s nuts. confirmed.

[full lark]

That´s just chemical reactions in our brain

[astral goblet]

thats just the mind hallucinating. i've done mushrooms enough to have an immunity now

[karmic cedar]

anyway

the brain convolutes and interpolates

[shy cove]

theres a spiritial significance when you experience the altered realms.

[karmic cedar]

it creates narrative from chaos

etc

[shy cove]

"thats just the mind hallucinating"

[astral goblet]

if there is a spirit realm, we can engineer a path there

[karmic cedar]

yep, we’re nerds here PMADETHAT

[shy cove]

that's a very government way of things

[karmic cedar]

lol

[potent spire]

what is the altered realm called? Schizophrenia?

[karmic cedar]

no, that’s a medical condition sir

[astral goblet]

magic doesn't exist. only lack of understanding

[karmic cedar]

don’t diminish the metaphor of magic, good sir

[shy cove]

if you were a nerd you'd realize mushrooms are a symbyotic network

[karmic cedar]

magic is important right now

[shy cove]

that connect the trees like wifi

[karmic cedar]

yes, yes, paul stemets

staments*

argh

can’t type

[astral goblet]

platitudes

[karmic cedar]

platypus?

[shy cove]

im not saying you are wrong

im just saying you might not be right

[karmic cedar]

there is evidence in nature of network.

yes.

but the function is the question.

we find evidence in design.

[full lark]

ethernet* 😁 😊

[astral goblet]

wifi is wireless so...

[karmic cedar]

wifi is also physical

[shy cove]

we were given this knowlege "technology" i call them

for greater good

disillution of the ego

[astral goblet]

who gave us technology wtf? thats all documented. we came up with it

[karmic cedar]

we inducted the knowledge over iterations of study and language development, yes

[shy cove]

wether you take them or not wont permit my souls transendence

[karmic cedar]

🙂

soul is a refined concept

[shy cove]

but it could inspire your escape

[karmic cedar]

reified*

[shy cove]

when things don't go your way

technology is a word of work we made

[karmic cedar]

things will go the way they are meant to go

[shy cove]

but the logistics behind it

[astral goblet]

great novel by phillip k dick about engineering conciousness. "Destination: Void" spoilers ||jesus was a real deal and the engineered consciousness has all the same capabilities||

[shy cove]

the value of it

is advancement right?

[karmic cedar]

ask not for the species

ask for yourself

[astral goblet]

final fantasy 6 and 7 cover the theme too. if magic is real, technology will come to understand it

[shy cove]

i cant speak for others but the son of god has helped me many times in this life

[karmic cedar]

philip k. dick…i don’t envy the amount of amphetamine that man consumed

that’s lovely.

[shy cove]

i believe this

the witches will be there at the exit smiling

[astral goblet]

i would never do amphetamines cause you know, psychosis, but man.. those guys before they get to that point. They sure are smart

[shy cove]

" i told u so"

[shy cove]

i had tried them once

took my soul away

but i got it back

[karmic cedar]

never let your vesicles spill too much noradrenaline into your presynaptic cleft.

[shy cove]

realized pills were a man made concept and if nature didnt make it i shouldn't take it

[karmic cedar]

mm

this is good stuff man

[astral goblet]

gimme some of that nzt limitless shit

all day!

every concept is a man made concept

[shy cove]

if we are all brothers in spirit

then it makes sense why we all look up to eachother

[karmic cedar]

you fear our advancement. i do too. it’s okay to.

[astral goblet]

unless you're platonic about ideas and think ideas exist on some plane thats not our physical existence

[shy cove]

i don't fear advancement anymore i fear us not obtaining the truth before it ends

[astral goblet]

but if thats true, we can engineer access to those "akashic records"

[karmic cedar]

is truth an objective concept to you?

as in, truth represents a single thing?

[shy cove]

akashic records is hilarious

that knowlege is embedded

we just need to awaken it

the word play tho "akashic records" lmfaoo

[astral goblet]

we got that assassins creed theory too. genetic knowledge. another example of engineering magic

[shy cove]

if god created you and you have no explanation on how humans formed or real proof how can we not say hes magic?

i say he because i am a boy and i realized we started creation

[karmic cedar]

you’re setting the terms of your argument up in the same breath

that’s a logical fallacy

[astral goblet]

just a lack of understanding

if all the power of god exists, we can engineer it

[shy cove]

that's a fight you wont win

that's all ima say

[karmic cedar]

those who believe in a bindless teleology of direction towards an ideal will direct themselves towards that ideal without shame

🙂

[shy cove]

its called faith

[karmic cedar]

it’s a vector.

it’s math. and it goes up, not around.

[full lark]

God was invanted by humans

[astral goblet]

faith is a bunch of wishy washy

[shy cove]

these computers wont generate love like your heart will

study what's there

[karmic cedar]

you’re preaching to the choir and you don’t even realize it, man.

🙂

[astral goblet]

if love is real we can engineer it! heh reminds me of that creepy A.I movie

[shy cove]

maintain that mindset and lets see the world die

[karmic cedar]

you are the one talking about the world dying.

[astral goblet]

by all indications, love just seems to be an evolutionary mechanism so that the species propagates

[shy cove]

i can't imagine a world of jesus worshipers using AI and brain implants like you supposably would

[full lark]

The world WILL die anyway, well, the universe will die

[astral goblet]

who said things need to be implanted?

[karmic cedar]

yeah, you’re setting up things in your head and then trying to imagine towards them instead of just being here right now in reality.

[shy cove]

ultimately what is your soul here to do?

[astral goblet]

man that new 3 body show, i've read a bit of the books. translated excerpts anyways. i been trying to figure out the sophon concept this whole time but the show really laid it all out perfectly. now i'm all about sophons. that shit is hot

[karmic cedar]

Haven’t read it but I know the synopsis. It sounds very wordy

[shy cove]

you find all this advancement for what?

youll take it when your dead?

[karmic cedar]

that’s for you to determine, guy

[shy cove]

to prove what

no

[karmic cedar]

that’s not an answer you’ll find from here.

[shy cove]

im asking you

[stone latch]

In an ideal scenario, one who has faith in an external force (which is inherently not wrong and it's acceptable) would also understand the importance of science and progress to improve the human experience on the planet, irrespective of what follows afterwards. That's a more balanced approach.

Additionally, I have a feeling the conversation could be taken in a less confrontative direction.

[astral goblet]

i dont think theres ever any purpose. kind of lutherin in that sense.

[shy cove]

then people here should reconsider what they value

all i know is your parents conceived you

[karmic cedar]

I think we should move on from the existential discussions, because obviously that is a topic that is driving your discourse.

[shy cove]

and it was intended for procreation to occur

[astral goblet]

individually, none of us matter on the cosmic stage

[shy cove]

right?

[karmic cedar]

And make no mistake, I’m not uncomfortable with it.

[full lark]

In my opinion there is no purpose, we are just animals so, like them the purpose is not die or live long as long as possible, the good thing is that we can think and learn, unlike them

[karmic cedar]

Yes, this 🙂

We can learn from experience.

[shy cove]

that's a heartbreak i hear from you

[karmic cedar]

And hold that knowledge in stability.

[shy cove]

im sorry man

[astral goblet]

if life purpose is real, we can engineer and automate it

[shy cove]

i wish you seen it

[stone latch]

The thing with purpose is that even if you believe there is none (which is an opinion I do not share), you can still choose to live a good life and enjoy AI image generation 👍

[karmic cedar]

🙂 that is also true.

[true canopy]

lol is this rly the place to discuss this?

[astral goblet]

"you have to do drugs to understand!" neitzche enters the chat

[shy cove]

lmaoo

[karmic cedar]

that man did not get laid enough (or he did, considering the nature of…well)

[full lark]

I mean its not bad, its natural, we are all going to die, but i wish we could avance a lot before I die

[shy cove]

im happy where we are

[honest spear]

Our real purpose is to request access to sd3 beta test and being rejected for 2 weeks

[shy cove]

i don't want the human to fully disconnect

[astral goblet]

my whole problem with the "God" idea is the duality. why even make suffering exist?

[shy cove]

read the bible

[karmic cedar]

If you try and bring what you feel is an objective truth to a place where neural networks are a focus, and convolutional data generation is a thing, and interpolation, etc. you’re going to have a hard time swaying the regulars.

[astral goblet]

yup. i have.

doesn't explain it

[shy cove]

there was an angel in heaven

[potent spire]

well abrahamic idea of god is full of flaws

[shy cove]

lol what?

luci?

the snake?

the apple?

[karmic cedar]

you are bringing your favorite symbols to a big ol’ symbol fest

[astral goblet]

yeah yeah the whole lucifer fell thing. But God is almighty, so why'd he create lucifer that way

[karmic cedar]

and you’re finding that they’re just tokens

in a prompt matrix

[potent spire]

all 3 of the abrahamic religions disqualify themselves as the truth

[shy cove]

the back of your phone is a bitten apple for a reason

[low moon]

God debates in an AI generator chatroom. XD

[shy cove]

the world leaders put satan before god for a reason?

[karmic cedar]

lol

[shy cove]

worldy gain

as above so below is a lie

[astral goblet]

God knew Lucifer woudl betray him before he was ever created, so why?

[full lark]

Me too, but we can get more higher, or better or whatever word you wanna use, and every time technology "stops" in some way, the time we lose is invaluable

[karmic cedar]

Myths are so easy to retreat to in life, because they reinforce the sense of self so much.

We need our stories.

[stone latch]

I'd say the problem isn't God as a concept but rather what some religions might teach. In agnosticism, which argues that an external force's existence cannot be proven nor disproven as it is out of reach (hence the "external" in external force), it's pretty much a matter of belief what an external force is, whether it's God or something else.

[shy cove]

we are the ones being tested

not lucifer

thats why..

[potent spire]

maybe the god is...the devil O_O

[astral goblet]

i'm all about agnosticsm. and the truth that if it exists, it can be engineered

[shy cove]

creating your own reality

isn't going to save you

js

[karmic cedar]

we are heading into Homo Idealis

[full lark]

Because Lucifer was written by X people that wanted other people to fear him and act like they wanted, worship their fake god that never existed and so on

[shy cove]

so evil doesn't exist?

[full lark]

Withouth offense*

[shy cove]

my ancestors died for no reason?

[karmic cedar]

you can’t really make declarative statements when you don’t know what will happen.

[shy cove]

lmfao

[astral goblet]

either god is all knowing or didn't see lucifer coming. which is it?

[stone latch]

I'm confused as to what direction this conversation is taking 🤔

[shy cove]

Lucifer argued that the holy congregation didn't need a Law to be like God. He wanted to change the government. His point was that if God really did allow his creatures to have freewill and freedom then it wasn't necessary to abide in God's Holy Law. Therefore his first transgression (sin) was coveting the throne of God. God, not excising manipulation or coercion over his creature, attempted to correct Lucifer who didn't realize that by rejecting the Law he was rejecting God Himself (who is the Life-giver sustainer and law personified). Unwittingly the rejection of God is rejection of the very thing that bestows life. God cannot be in the presence of that which he is not. In His essence, God is Holy, Just and loving. No thing that is in opposition to these characteristics can be be given His spirit to live if His spirit is the epitome of these transcendent personality traits (1 Corinthians 6:14). This is why "the wages of sin is death" (Romans 6:23). Lucifer introduced death into creation. He continued to rebel against Yahweh. He continued to harshly criticize the character of God.

[stone latch]

What are we talking about at this point?

[karmic cedar]

It’s not going anywhere—this guy is trying to lead people down a narrative path.

[potent spire]

Lucifer is a based figure

inspiration

al*

[karmic cedar]

He’s trying to set up parameters and say “this is my truth, here, have it be yours”

[shy cove]

take enough shrooms and youll see em

[full lark]

Evil exist because people can be evil, but we are animals, are the depredators bad and the prey good? Its subjective

[shy cove]

promise you that

he might laught at you

[astral goblet]

i did enough shrooms. all i saw was myslef. am i God?

[stone latch]

Like I said earlier, ideally a religious person can also see value in scientific advancement, including AI

[limpid tapir]

And here I was hoping for more SD3 drama

[shy cove]

he might congratulate you

[karmic cedar]

Indeed.

[split kestrel]

Afternoon humans

[astral goblet]

Ray... when someone asks you if you are a God, you say YES

[karmic cedar]

ROTFL

nice reference.

[split kestrel]

lol

I saw the new one yesterday

[astral goblet]

nice! i wanna see it but the theaters near me have gone to ruins since covid. sticky floors and i don't think it's soda

i'm not about to see it in the box offic

[shy cove]

its sad i share a world with people who create their own reality and nothing spiritualy significant changes execpt the phyiscal world that's currently build in anguish

[karmic cedar]

bud, if you can’t hop off your train you’re going to get blocked by the whole chat room.

[shy cove]

you speak for yourself

[astral goblet]

if spirit exists, it's machinable

[karmic cedar]

indeed. bye bye 🙂

[shy cove]

ngl ur weird asf

[split kestrel]

Anyways

[karmic cedar]

that’s two trolls today

what’s up with sunday trolling

[split kestrel]

Today I’m going down the animatediff rabbit hole

[pale latch]

nobody paid the troll toll this week. this is our penance

[karmic cedar]

rotfl

I guess Stability can’t

bad joke

[full lark]

If we can create our own reality and it doesn´t feel different from the "real" reality, why not use it? Its imposible now but in the future when the earth gets consumed by the sun we are probably going to be cyborgs or or mins would be transfered into mahines, what are we gonna do there? just move around withouth doing anything?

[shy cove]

bro

[stone latch]

So I left for 5 minutes, did we move on?

[shy cove]

i left

[split kestrel]

I moved on

[shy cove]

5 mins ago

lmfaoo

[split kestrel]

I have real questions

[karmic cedar]

That was not five but yea I blocked

[shy cove]

why are u @'ing me

[split kestrel]

lol

[stone latch]

Nah I said it as a joke 🤣

[karmic cedar]

lol

[stone latch]

"I leave for 5 minutes-"

[karmic cedar]

😄

[split kestrel]

Does animatediff require a certain model it needs for the images?

[shy cove]

because its not genuine ... its like saying if i make chicken out of goo why not use it? it taste the same? well its simply not chicken

[astral goblet]

if we haven't left the solar system before the sun expands into a red giant, then we were fucked long before that problem

[stone latch]

Damn, now I actually want to add something to the previous conversation 💀

[karmic cedar]

eh, wouldn’t be worth it. that guy isn’t very creative anyway

[stone latch]

No it's for whoever wants to read into it really

[shy cove]

this is my last message cause im bothering someone who speaks on all of your behalf on wanting me blocked

[karmic cedar]

oh, i do

lol

[astral goblet]

"machines are souless" always immediatly sparks the whole notion of the soul existing in the first place to me

[full lark]

if its tastes the same, looks the same and has the same proteins and vitamins...why not?

[stone latch]

I think it's more of a metaphor rather than an implication that souls exist

[karmic cedar]

well as soon as i saw him type “you’re weird asf” I knew he was taking it more personally

so, good time to disconnect

[split kestrel]

Should I go to off topic to talk about SD? 😉

[astral goblet]

then its idealism and not grounded in truth

[shy cove]

when you do field reseach on disease you then realize the issues persisting in america are caused by the foods people consume that have had the genetic pre-dispositon changed of modified

[karmic cedar]

i love that AI has been driving more discussions about philosophy lately

[astral goblet]

either the soul exists or it doesn't. if it exists, machines can have one with the correct engineering

[shy cove]

when something in nature is incomplete in structure it wont function correctly

because the laws of nature arent bound if you break them

[astral goblet]

wheres the blue print?

[shy cove]

living

experience

feel it

[astral goblet]

machines can experience

[shy cove]

trust in yourself

[astral goblet]

machines can trust

[shy cove]

client>server communication

doesn't need a soul

[karmic cedar]

All we can ever do is measure reality. We will always exist above its liminal threshold—it’s not master-able.

[shy cove]

if you understand LUA

[astral goblet]

personally, i don't think there is any correct experience

[shy cove]

or C#

[stone latch]

It seems that you simply have a more pragmatic approach and that's okay, but to me, while there's no "soul" that's physically present, it's still a metaphoric concept that is akin to art and emotions. Like the phrase "in good spirit", meaning with good intentions.

But about Stable Diffusion, what of SD3?

[low moon]

AI will finally prove that our senses can be 100% fooled and the scientific method based entirely on empiric feedback from our senses is flawed.

[karmic cedar]

SD3…no news.

[astral goblet]

good intentions are very subjective. One coudl say Hitler felt his intentions were good

[shy cove]

so you hate the idea of god? agree.

[full lark]

Probably but remember that americans put sugar with oil and estrogen in EVERYTHING

[true canopy]

actually, there was news on sd3 today

[karmic cedar]

Just that it’s going to “mostly yeah kinda be open source sure”

[shy cove]

ofc they do . the world leaders want us controlled

[low moon]

Reality is in God and God is not in relaity. I am not sure why eveyrone thinks they cna udnerstand God so easily...

[true canopy]

not release, but about open source

[shy cove]

but i don't blame them

look at you guys

pathetic

[stone latch]

I don't feel like opening that can of worms right now let me enjoy my Sunday night 😂

[split kestrel]

Well… anyone that has any knowledge on animatediff I have a small on topic question. If anyone wouldn’t mind

[astral goblet]

so we're just a simulation on God's machine?

[low moon]

SD3 just looks like a slightly better cascade... maybe we cna just finetune cascade models and move on

[astral goblet]

a whole bunch of simulated souls huh

[karmic cedar]

lol i can’t see his messages but i see where the conversation has now landed

[astral goblet]

only God has admin access to the system is it?

[shy cove]

i don't know really.. i just know our soul is here and we are souls living a human experience

thats why we are confused

[full lark]

The more fat and sick people, the more they gonna waste on health, but that only applies for USA , for now

[low moon]

well this relaity does seem to be a simulation we all have that funyn sense, thats why movie slike the matrix resobnate so much we all know soemthign is off

[astral goblet]

Then we just write our own simulation in the simulation, and simulate souls then put those into machines. EZ hax

[karmic cedar]

it’s tragic that teleological thinking can drive a person insane trying to find the truth in the subjective

[split kestrel]

sigh

[karmic cedar]

anyway

[shy cove]

the more control they have over you is what they desire; first it was food now the vacciene

MRNA controlled

[karmic cedar]

Plunder, what’s up?

[astral goblet]

13th floor is a kick ass movie btw. God i fucking love that shit. We need more simulation theory movies

[split kestrel]

Im trying to learn. lol

[karmic cedar]

yesssss….and Dark City was cool too

[astral goblet]

One thing Jesus got right. Stories are the fucking shit

[split kestrel]

I posted. A small image in general with images with an issue

[astral goblet]

Existenz

Strange Days

[karmic cedar]

don’t forget the epic of gilgamesh—that inspired the bible a lot

[shy cove]

if the african man took his food with him to the US he wouldn't have HBP and if the mexican took his food with him to the US he woudn't have Diabetus

[karmic cedar]

gonna get a lot of blocked messages for that one 🙂

[stone latch]

What??

[shy cove]

and if the indian took his food with him he'd have dyalisis

[astral goblet]

no no you see, Lucifer told that story before the bible to discredit it all

[karmic cedar]

ohhhhhhhh ok

[stone latch]

I think I'll talk about Stable Diffusion, so guys what do you think about SDXL it's pretty great right 🙂

[shy cove]

a third of india is on dyalysis because of the polymers in the curry

[karmic cedar]

Yes, I agree.

[shy cove]

curry was intenveted man made

in a labratory

[split kestrel]

Sent a pm to avoid the room noise

[shy cove]

polymers

[astral goblet]

what about arsenic. thats natural

cyanide?

[karmic cedar]

flowwolf just needs to decide when he wants off the bait train

🙂

[astral goblet]

fucking love trains

[shy cove]

we isolated them no?

[karmic cedar]

i do too, but let’s power suplex this shit FFVI Sabin Style and move on

[astral goblet]

so Jesus hates wine then because wine doesn't exist in nature?

what about bread? ever seen bread on a tree?

[shy cove]

jesus walked on water and u see the suns reflection on the water

jesus turned water into wine by the sun

the SUN

[astral goblet]

but wine isn't natural

[shy cove]

MA SON

yes it is??

if you left fruit out

naturally

[stone latch]

I'd argue it is because it's made via natural processes but please let's change the topic 😭

[shy cove]

it turns into wine

[astral goblet]

bruh wine iis a man made concept fully

[shy cove]

jesus is the sun

of god

the SUN

[astral goblet]

why would the Gods even drink wine? they could just decide to be drunk

[shy cove]

ok

ok

look

ima end it here

[astral goblet]

Jesus is Ra? wow thats a little off beat

thought he was pisces

[karmic cedar]

https://artificialguy.com

[shy cove]

you look for loyalty in every human you meet and never asked yourself why the sun rose for you every morning

with no question

thats LOVE

motherfucker

[karmic cedar]

this guy did one called Cinematic Redmond, amazing finetune

[full lark]

Not physically possible

[karmic cedar]

give it a try

[astral goblet]

I dont expect loyalty from most of the people i meet

they dont know me

[shy cove]

if you don't love the sun

fuck you

thats all ima say

[stone latch]

Are you 2?

[shy cove]

you deserve death lmaoo

[full lark]

I´ll try it rn 🤗

[charred mesa]

bruh

[astral goblet]

okay the train is derailing now. my work here is done

[karmic cedar]

https://huggingface.co/spaces/artificialguybr/artificialguybr-demo-lora

lol nice

[astral goblet]

/lounges

[shy cove]

/lays back

we not the same

thanks for the energy

[astral goblet]

thats a breaking bad quote aint it? bit of an evil story

[stone latch]

Alex V thanks for the advice

If you know you know

[astral goblet]

That whole duality topic we broached

[karmic cedar]

sure sure. I’ve found that running cinematic redmond and then using clarity upscale produces some pretty amazing results

if you’re going for that look lol

[stone latch]

😂 Anyway

Last night (morning?) I was doing some The Legend of Korra experiments using Stable Diffusion

But I couldn't get Korra to be in the Avatar State sadly 🤔

Using just Stable Diffusion

Not even inpainting did it

[astral goblet]

the model you were using seemed to know Korra at least

The one i was trying with didn't really get her. Cyberrealistic 2.5d

[shy cove]

God created a being that was capable of resisting Him, because God wants His creatures to love Him out of choice. He doesn't want to create beings that love and worship Him because he decided it should be so, that would be so contrived. That wouldn't be love, but manipulation and it would be cheap for Him. If he just decided to blink everyone who will ever oppose and hate Him out of existence God wouldn't be a God of love, but a manipulator.

[astral goblet]

wishy washy

[stone latch]

The one I tried did but couldn't do the Avatar State 😕

[stone latch]

With all due respect you're on an AI image generation Discord.

[astral goblet]

why create suffering. God must be a sociopath. "They must suffer to love me!" ugh. abusive relatinship really

[stone latch]

I like a good debate but that ain't one

[astral goblet]

yeah evangelism isn't going to work on a bunch of tech nerds. We've all seen star trek V. "What kind of God needs a space ship?"

[stone latch]

Back to Korra, I used hephaistos nextGen DPO

[astral goblet]

gonna snag that, thanks

[stone latch]

I wonder if I can describe Korra (instead of prompting her name) and say that her eyes are glowing white 🤔

[astral goblet]

looks like a really great model

[stone latch]

I'll move to #🏞｜general-with-images 🙂

[karmic cedar]

https://github.com/stitionai/devika

anyone try yet?

[karmic cedar]

when are they going to bring back Sybok, anyway? Sybok was actually cool af, when he wasn’t busy with his crazy agenda.

[astral goblet]

in picard season 4

[karmic cedar]

probably.

Star Trek Legacy please, while we’re at it

more Voyager characters!

[full lark]

I couldn´t find the cinematic redmond 😿

[karmic cedar]

Lemme hook ya up with a Replicate cog.

[astral goblet]

i agree though. Sybok is the coolest Vulkan

[karmic cedar]

and he was a mutt, like spock.

easily the coolest vulcans lol

[astral goblet]

i dont think thats acceptible language in 2024

[karmic cedar]

hmm, true.

lol

[astral goblet]

okay these are dark waters i'm treading now

[karmic cedar]

i dunno

[charred mesa]

huh

[astral goblet]

It's a really great netflix series

[karmic cedar]

https://replicate.com/artificialguybr/cinematic.redmond

there’s an API version

[full lark]

Aaa thanks bro

[karmic cedar]

It’s a pretty flexible finetune

from what i can tell

[astral goblet]

i guess its not a checkpoint one can download then

[full lark]

It only runs online i think

Wait you can download it

https://civitai.com/models/359999

[karmic cedar]

https://huggingface.co/artificialguybr

his repos are linked off there too

[astral goblet]

https://civitai.com/models/359999/cinematicredmond-cinematic-model-for-sd-xl found it here too.

[karmic cedar]

nice stuff

i made this ranch dressing too good and i’m going to end up eating all of it

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

fml

it was the kewpie mayo

turns out, if you add kewpie mayo to things, especially savory things, they become CRACK

[ripe hatch]

I've got SV3D running. It creates a load of frames looping around a source image. All the adverts say it can do 3d generation. How do I get 3d out of it? I only seem to be able to produce still images?

[split kestrel]

SV3D is a controller I thought..

[hallow mesa]

It is now time for the Sunday joke of the day !

What do you call a famous turtle ?

… a SHELL-ebrity! 🐢

[karmic cedar]

it’s a little misleading—it just produces video.

at least that’s what i’ve understood from it

[split kestrel]

I thought it was a set of controls to help guide the SVD

[karmic cedar]

yeah

i’m just not sure how that’s implemented, i haven’t tested it personally

[split kestrel]

I think it controls the camera movement. In other programs I played with it helps tell the system what you want the camera movement to be

And the amount of motion on the camera push

[ripe hatch]

It's impressive either way, but I'm disappointed that it doesn't live up to billing. I don't think the outputs will be good enough for photogramatry either, but it might be worth a try.

[split kestrel]

It doesn’t help that there are so many ways to run this stuff… makes it hard to trouble shoot

[ripe hatch]

Would also have been good it it could do high and low camera angles too.

[karmic cedar]

it’s really more of a glorified paper implementation than a foundational model

[ripe hatch]

A good proof of concept.

[zinc egret]

well thanks to you forge is 3 time faster for my old lap

[split kestrel]

What is forge?

[zinc egret]

webui forge

[karmic cedar]

https://github.com/virattt/financial-agent

here you guys go

have fun

[zinc egret]

lol

[karmic cedar]

don’t go broke

[zinc egret]

it really fast

for old sytem on rtx4090 not so much ???

but it rock

[ripe hatch]

Cool, the elevation control can give me high and low camear angles.

[split kestrel]

I have what I perceive to be a great system…. lol but it’s been a music machine.

Now Im trying to construct stuff for a stage show I want to build.

[zinc egret]

yes i notice promping is very tweeky

[split kestrel]

And I…. Am failing.

[zinc egret]

i fall on a video saying that hands should be depth ?

so controlnet control nothing lol

???

[split kestrel]

What system are you building in?

Comfy?

[zinc egret]

well i didn t test it yet

out of time it s sunday i dont work lol

i m bitching N8N for fun

they use lm studio to do money

lol

comfy seem funny ..i know blender

yes soon it gone be all free

gimp , blender, ai ...we finaly win

😉

no more $$$$

[pale latch]

like fusion energy!

[zinc egret]

they hate me for that

[pale latch]

only 10 yeras off

[zinc egret]

i wait so long

[karmic cedar]

there’s a reason Northrop Grumman just won a huge railway contract for the moon.

it has to do with Helium-3, which has to do with fusion. To get the free energy, we gotta keep pushing for that sweet sweet H3

[pale latch]

they're going to be railers on the moon? (i stretched that reference whatever sue me)

[zinc egret]

i m that old ,,i start on 286 lol

[karmic cedar]

helium of course being a finite resource here on earth

[pale latch]

i heard a hollow earther once say that all the helium on earth comes from the fusion in the central sun so we're set forever

[karmic cedar]

who knew Sam Rockwell and Kevin Spacey would star in a documentary

those hollow earthers got dat esoteric knowledges, they just know so much stuff!

[jovial wraith]

the fact that "hollow earther" is a term depresses me

[karmic cedar]

right?

[pale latch]

on the bright side at least they believe the earth is a globe, or i guess a toroid

[karmic cedar]

so they understand basic shapes

that’s good for walking around and navigating, etc.

[zinc egret]

AI are begining they will overcome human in 1 year

[pale latch]

also makes for a wicked cool plot in kong movies

[zinc egret]

with the multi ai your created a boomb

lm studio did that

sorry out of subject

[karmic cedar]

it’s a vibe

[pale latch]

super intelliigent humans will come before generalized ai imo. Augmented intelligence

machine intelligence will just mesh with us

[karmic cedar]

yep

the future isn’t without, it’s within

[pale latch]

and you shake it all about

[karmic cedar]

that;s what it’s all about

[zinc egret]

if i take lm studio + stable difusion + open interpreter ...your create a bombe

illogical

[karmic cedar]

all your bombe are belong to us

[pale latch]

skidlerinkidinkidink sidklerinky dooo

ai loves youuuu

[zinc egret]

well not for me ...i m on serching why ? it a none sense to me

[pale latch]

basically if you don't put machine intelligence interfaces in your brain, you WILL be subjugated.

[zinc egret]

ai are math they dont love lol

[karmic cedar]

we create things with the intention of offloading work that we can’t manage as well on our own. we’ve been doing that ever since rocks were being fashioned into axes by neaderthals (and possibly even erectus by the sound of the latest fossil record discovery)

[astral goblet]

everything is quantifiable by math. even love

[zinc egret]

@cloud plume i agree

[astral goblet]

https://xkcd.com/435/

[zinc egret]

no love is

i m not a cat lol

ai help they will never replace love

[karmic cedar]

i agree with that.

[pale latch]

all the lonely bleeding heart nerds getting ai girl and boyfriends say otherwise

"her" isn't far off

[karmic cedar]

no it isn’t

[cloud plume]

btw I think you "@"ed the wrong alex, but no worries :)

[karmic cedar]

but human nature is being tested right now. people are having to ask themselves deep questions

[pale latch]

i love spike jonze as a director. his best works were the music videos he made. but makes great movies too

[karmic cedar]

i think we are learning what it means to be human all over again, and learning again where the value really is

[zinc egret]

me is a other thing

[karmic cedar]

and it’s in choice

definitely

[zinc egret]

well you can loose your time

[pale latch]

love is just a social construct in most cases. 100 years ago it was all about beating your wife into submission and making her obey you

not very nice by today's standards

[zinc egret]

it depend

[pale latch]

"GENERAL RULE OF THUMB" you might've heard before. means you shouldn't beat your wife with a stick wider than your thumb

[zinc egret]

now we re talking about love ...out of subject

man if you need an AI for love ... get a gilrfriend

lol good luck

[pale latch]

many people do love their ai companions

[zinc egret]

lol

ok out of subject seriously

[pale latch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3vXaK3JC8E this video last week

in the future, our personal models will know us so intimately, so deeply. More than any other human could ever know us.

i've told a girl i loved her before. i didn't. i just .. you know. ..

[zinc egret]

well you know it s just the begining of AI ... check 2024 lol

[pale latch]

was easier than saying i just wanna f***

[zinc egret]

every week , every day

i m ai reseacher

i look

i know

[astral goblet]

suddenly marc rebillet

[zinc egret]

i test

and SD is

a revolution

[deft horizon]

I thought it was an image generation platform

[pale latch]

fact: researchers are wrong more than they're right.

[zinc egret]

your are wrong

[pale latch]

no your

[zinc egret]

it pure imagination

lol

sd is like asking an artiste to do it

you dont know what it will paint

SD break the rule of imagination

with math ... i m amaze

[pale latch]

it's not just "math" though aint it? theres a ton of abstraction of ideas on tokens and representations of knowledge within the math

[zinc egret]

a freind show me forge ... wow 3 time faster

what can i say ...thank you

[astral goblet]

compared to a poorly configured ui it could be. older hardware it does better too

[full lark]

Yeah, its way faster than the other ones

[astral goblet]

people on ada should just be tuning . a1111 gets the best fp8 performance in my experience.

[deft horizon]

I wouldn't say that. An artist has a living experience, references, emotions, and depending how much they know you, they might change their painting to appeal to you.
SD is like having a certain "vision" and a random image generation gives you an approximation of what you asked it.

[zinc egret]

i m gone tell you a trick ..be creative (dont forget 80% of the net is porn you don t need do do more )

lol

i founds a way for my friend to go to mexico and they fully happy ..thanks to AI

[karmic cedar]

good lord suno v3

[zinc egret]

lol

i m a cat

i don t do it for me

[astral goblet]

"most of the internet is porn" is just propaganda that big porn pushes . its' not real

[zinc egret]

that s so sad

[astral goblet]

porn is actually quite a minority market and not very influential on much other than popular fetishes

[zinc egret]

yes but that s all they do ??? strange

[astral goblet]

you've porbably heard how they were influential with vhs and betamax too, but they only signed exclusivity to vhs when the betamax market had dried up

[zinc egret]

i fall ona web site

[astral goblet]

just propaganda. porn propaganda

[zinc egret]

it was 1 man site full porn for what

i ll show you

the power of sd 1.5 ..2 sec

[astral goblet]

i'm not really interested in ai porn. if i want to see porn i'll go watch the professionals in action

[zinc egret]

me too it stupid

it s illogic

i like the way it think

[astral goblet]

nothing logical about porn really

[zinc egret]

lol ok out of subject

[dusk canopy]

this type of content = sadness

[zinc egret]

he created a spaceship

[astral goblet]

if logic were involved people would realize theres no hope of procreating and check out

[zinc egret]

logic

you really want to try me

talk english relish

[astral goblet]

they're a russian with a swastika name. it's a low grade troll

unimpressive

[zinc egret]

ok lol

is a relish

[deft horizon]

It's also just poor insults, that he wrote

[zinc egret]

ya it append

[astral goblet]

day 1 troll

[zinc egret]

i m hated because i beleive in free AI

[sudden ruin]

[astral goblet]

give that ai a hat!

[zinc egret]

not crasy ai

lol

[dusk canopy]

🔥

[zinc egret]

i one ..porn we dont giive a blabla about it ZZZZzzzzz

lol

[sudden ruin]

Enough adult talk now, were a family friendly server

[zinc egret]

my city ... is pornhub ...where do i live lol

thanks

[astral goblet]

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23sd3&src=recent_search_click&f=live /pedro

[zinc egret]

sd is a machine to create magic

they make it free

your pure math

amazing

[astral goblet]

biochemistry is a lot of abstractions

[zinc egret]

im pro photoshop

you change the game

it s not fare lol

[astral goblet]

of course not it's free

free has no fares

wakka wakka wakka

[zinc egret]

well i tested SD i beat it in 12 min

see

lol

it s amazing but far from it

it do like 45% of the job great tool

but it will not replace a pro lol

sorry

[lone hawk]

Looks like they decided to turn on damage control: https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1bmpqeh/stabilityai_is_alive_and_will_live_there_were/

SD3 is not coming guys.

[karmic cedar]

yeah we were discussing that earlier. i think it’s candycoating

[pearl ocean]

*yet

[low moon]

It is

youll just need 64GB vram to run it

hehe

Sora probably needs 128GB vram :))

2 weeks render for 5 minutes video

[pearl ocean]

Sora 8K

[pale latch]

that's just 2 a100s. it probably using a lot more than that

[karmic cedar]

I have to wonder how much of Sora’s processing workflow involves stages

relative to other models i mean

[low moon]

Its still useless if its just another slot machine and u have 0 contorl over the details

[pearl ocean]

Looks pretty cheap to me

https://www.mwave.com.au/product/nvidia-a100-80gb-tensor-core-video-card-ac58540

[karmic cedar]

has anyone discussed, theorized, etc. the eventual intersection of quantum technologies and neural networks?

[pale latch]

openai is getting the direct from nvidia

[karmic cedar]

M$ is raking in the server support cash right now

and visit too

nvidia*

[pale latch]

like, will a machine intelligence prove n=np to be true and not tell anyone?

[karmic cedar]

more like how will qubits be leveraged to support diffusion

diffusion of any kind

oh hey https://arxiv.org/pdf/2311.15444.pdf

[pearl ocean]

All about Mushroom and Graphite computers these days

[karmic cedar]

i’ll take nonequilibrium thermodynamics over variational autoencoders, suuuure

fungal computing is a fascinating avenue for sure

there’s an idea for a creepy character—a graphite lattice that animates and produces spore networks that eventually form its entire nerve system, etc.

[zinc egret]

the question is not how many Vram you got ! what did you do ???

lol

i tested all of it

dont play be usefull lol

be better

it s all about creativity

sex ... looser ..spacesjip winner

lol

and i didn t say noting about us

lol

[karmic cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-then-um-well-ok-then-wtf-gif-23665207

[fervent thunder]

so, i just got comfy running and loaded up a workflow that was given to me here. im apparently missing several nodes that are red. do i just need to manually search for each on github & hugging face, or does comfy have something similar to extension browser like in a1111/forge?

[broken cave]

there is an extension manager

what are you trying to do?

like what does the workflow do?

[fervent thunder]

uhh i dont understand comfy enough to tell you specifically what its doing, aside from some fuckery with upscaling, downscaling, and the end result is a really good face swap. trying to remember the guys name that posted it.. ill drop the json in here

[broken cave]

gotchya.

[fervent thunder]

oh right, cant put files on this channel

[broken cave]

what's your goal for the faceswap? like what are you making?

and have you ever tried starting with something you want to make as text, and then generating an image?

like do you know what all this stuff means - CFG, steps, etc?

[fervent thunder]

hoping to automate a process to do high quality face swaps in batches. end goal is to take a face from a generation i like, then swap it onto a batch of images ive made with different poses, perspectives, settings, etc. trying to make it a bit easier to get good data sets for lora training

oh yeah for sure. im just new to comfy

[broken cave]

okay, but for making a comic book or

[vestal dew]

IP-Adapter does face swap very well

[broken cave]

what are you trying to make

[fervent thunder]

yeah ive been using ip w/ the ip adapter lora in forge. works pretty well, but the results the guy was showing where phenomenal

[broken cave]

you can already make consistent people easily. my question is what the end goal is?

[fervent thunder]

making datasets to train a character lora

[broken cave]

hmm

i understand that part, but what are you going to use the lora for?

what is your goal?

to make art for a video game? for example

[vestal dew]

the unfortunate thing is the open source is not going to get much better, not with what's going on with SA

[fervent thunder]

and, i havent had great luck with making consistent people, especially given that i like to use different checkpoints, embeddings, scripts, etc depending on what im doing

[broken cave]

it is extremely easy to make a consistent person. for example, "Zendaya walking on a beach." that is going to give you zendaya

[fervent thunder]

nah man just for making new images, text 2 img, img 2 img

[broken cave]

it's going to give you someone that maybe doesn't look exactly like zendaya, but it will be the same person in all your generations

do you see what i am saying?

[fervent thunder]

yeah that doesnt work great when i am using wildcards and prompt matrix to generate random stuff from a list of keywords mixed together. the random generations don't have names, so if i see something i want to make more of, im not sure how id do that aside from ip adapter or a lora.

[broken cave]

hmm

if you ask for zendaya in stable cascade, it will look the same

between different presentations of her

you don't need ip adapter. you don't need anything

so i am asking what the goal is

you know, for real

you don't need a LoRA to make a consistent character

why would you need a prompt matrix at all?

the model already has lots of built in consistent people

they're called "celebrities" 🙂

[fervent thunder]

😮‍💨 i really dont know how else to reword it. a randomly generated fictional character, which up until the point the noise and vae created it didnt exist, it doesnt have a name. so just giving it a random name and expecting it to be consistent across different checkpoints and settings just doesnt work

[broken cave]

yes but why does it have to be a randomly generated fictional character?

i know that's what you want to do

i'm not saying a random name

zendaya is a celebrity

[fervent thunder]

man i think we are just not tracking each other at all. dont worry about it

[broken cave]

i am definitely understanding what you want to do

i am asking for what purpose

like to make a comic book?

to make a movie?

suppose you had the lora you wanted

what would you do with it?

[teal pagoda]

Yo

[fervent thunder]

i literally just enjoy creating generative art. learning animation with ai and blender as well. i like to let the ai just make random shit sometimes , then i sift through it. sometimes i find something i really like.

like, there isnt some end goal

[teal pagoda]

What do you think about the future of Stability ai now that Emad is out?

[fervent thunder]

its literally just for entertainment and enjoyment

[broken cave]

okay because there is nothing enjoyable about the huge amount of IT faff you're about to embark on

[fervent thunder]

🚽

[broken cave]

if this was for entertainment and enjoyment, you know, prompt a celebrity. it will be consistent, and you can skip all this IT

you can work on transforming the celebrity

it will work 1,000x better than what you are imagining you are going to achieve

[fervent thunder]

doc, actually, it is enjoyable. if i didnt like learning this stuff i would just be doing generations off of civit ai or something instead of running three different ui's locally.

[broken cave]

anyway you can download comfyui nodes manager. you are at the start of a long journey

if you want consistent results, you are not going to achieve it with the lora

[fervent thunder]

🤦‍♂️ ok we are going to have to agree to disagree. i didnt imagine asking about comfy extensions / nodes would lead to someone trying to convince me that im actually not having fun and should give it up. wild stuff.

[broken cave]

you can use a celebrity if you want consistently generated photoreal people

[broken cave]

i am just trying to say that your goal isn't practicable

and i was hoping to find a better journey for you, for whatever your real goal may be

[teal pagoda]

Man, it's easier than you think to have consistent faces

look for IP adapter face plus v2 on youtube

you can use it everywhere

except Fooocus

[teal pagoda]

nah

he can get in trouble if sharing images with celebs

[trail lion]

I havent had good luck with face plus in auto1111, but instantid works well

[teal pagoda]

yep

[fervent thunder]

yep, thats what ive been using. simply exploring alternatives.

also iirc i dont think comfy has ip adapter?

[teal pagoda]

yea, you have to install a custom node or kinda, I didn't use comfy that much

don't really like the interface

[fervent thunder]

im just now getting into it. interface is different for sure, but it seems to be the consensus that it allows more control with less effort once you get the hang of it

[broken cave]

ip adapter can produce a face that is consistent between generations of a particular "workflow", but it will not look like the source face

it will also stop being consistent in many circumstances, basically all the ones you want to use

it's hard to have a real conversation about this stuff without a specific goal

[teal pagoda]

it's not 100% perfect, but it can work with some images

[teal pagoda]

kinda

so what's the actual goal?

[broken cave]

i think people expect to use stable diffusion to do character IP creation, and then some other process lets the user integrate this into a stable diffusion based pipeline, somehow

which isn't practicable

[broken cave]

it's a very common goal for video game development

overall it doesn't make that much sense

it is really easy to make consistent people.

the original dreambooth paper didn't have people for a reason

[broken cave]

it's definitely an interesting problem to make a character consistently in generations. this is something i have done, but not a real person

it's too hard for real people SDXL has never seen before

if it's someone who kind of looks like a specific celebrity there's a little bit of a chance

[broken cave]

another POV of this is that most creative professionals don't want to "make a comic book," their dream is "to be important in hollywood"

like why care about pissing off celebrities?

and for that matter, you can always use an international politician

i don't know. i'm just trying to be creative here

[fervent thunder]

i told myself i was done with this convo.. but i gotta say one more thing. if you want to make (yes i know they wont be pixel perfect exact replicas 🙄 ) consistent generations across different checkpoints and settings, a lora is the way to go from what ive seen. yes, you can use ip adapter as well, but it seems like if you plan on doing numerous generations, its going to be faster in the long run to just create a lora. a decently trained lora also seems to, in my experience, do a better job than ip adapter, reactor, roop, id, etc etc. all those tools have their own place. "it's too hard for real people SDXL has never seen before" that is exactly why loras are so popular. i mean, i guess you could go all out and fine tune the model and make your own checkpoint, but that is kind of overkill and imo wont give as much flexibility.

also, some people couldnt care less about recreating some celebrity. personally, i like to see things that are original.

[broken cave]

personally, i like to see things that are original.
you should think very deeply about what you mean by this

[broken cave]

"it's too hard for real people SDXL has never seen before" that is exactly why loras are so popular. i
i am trying to say that from a scientific perspective, the most effective loras for real people tend to be using images of a real person that resembles someone who already is "well known" to the SDXL dataset

the kind of fine tunings people do are kind of ... garbage. like i said, the dreambooth paper doesn't have people. it isn't possible to dreambooth people. they obviously tried, and then obviously tried to tune it, and it wasn't working for the general person

[pale latch]

loras are bae

[broken cave]

there are lots of "loras" on civitai of celebrities. well, those can work

there are also lots of different kinds of fine tuning. a pivotal fine tuning is even harder

[pale latch]

especially if you consider lora to be an umbrella term for all differential networks. like dylora, doras, lycoris, whatever there is

weights that can augment any existing base model

[broken cave]

maybe this is the problem with stability.

does most of what people are doing make any sense?

[karmic cedar]

?

[pale latch]

experimenting in a new field isn't bad

[broken cave]

just because something happens, doesn't mean it makes sense

[karmic cedar]

that’s up to the eye of the beholder

[broken cave]

i don't know

[pale latch]

is ... is that your argument against loras?

[broken cave]

kind of a cop out

[karmic cedar]

if you feel insecure about some things not being entirely intuitable by the rational mind, then…welcome to reality.

[pale latch]

i've definately trained loras that are of people that were never in the base dataset

[karmic cedar]

we live in systems governed by ratios

[pale latch]

you might be dealing with one of the most aggressive biases that scientists often try to eliminate from their research. good ol fashion confirmation bias

[karmic cedar]

irrationality is AI’s promise

[pale latch]

do you think that's oxygen and nitrogen you're breathing?

[karmic cedar]

hehehe

thank you morph

[low moon]

lmao consistency is a pipe dream now. hpow about filming someone from the top of their heads doing yoga.. it falls apart if its not a flaton frontal upper body portrait or something

[teal pagoda]

that's right

guess we still have some time until we can make good consistent characters "out of the box" or like this

[pale latch]

giant monolith models i don't think are the future

too innefficient

[karmic cedar]

they are for corporate democracy.

but, i hope you’re right.

[pale latch]

small models that can be easily integrated into the whole. modular specializations. thhats how it'll go

[low moon]

if i could put in say 24 images of different angles of an object and that will give me total consistecy id gladly make loras of any object or background or character but even with loras the results are sloppy

i made afew loras

[pale latch]

https://civitai.com/models/261999/drone-shot-above-xl-lora this lora gives me top down shots of heads

or do you mean pov?

[low moon]

i mean like in general

[pale latch]

yoga is a tough one to do. i think it'll be cracked yet

[spare lake]

guys

where is all channels?

[low moon]

the further we stray from classical portraits things get worse

[spare lake]

@radiant meadow

[pale latch]

new training methods and better captioning of models is happening. Sooner or later someone's going to have a contortionist model

probably a lora

[fervent thunder]

careful now, dont kick the anthill again 😄

[low moon]

the better these generations are the more it hurts you cant use them for anything really

one off magic

[pale latch]

thats why loras are gooder. they dont destroy the existing knowledge. they just shift it while its loaded

i haven't seen any doras released yet but those should work as good as full finetuning in theory

[low moon]

anyone using that boring people lora lol

https://civitai.com/models/310571/boring-reality

:))

refreshign after all the well endowed flawless waifus

[fervent thunder]

😄 amazing. ill add boring lora to my collection

[pale latch]

naw it just seems over fit

[low moon]

yeah its a mess with high CFG

[fervent thunder]

What are your thoughts about this: https://chat.openai.com/share/47e3dfba-456f-4497-89cc-725ac2c326bc somone claims that Claude3 has experienced satori-like qualia?

[karmic cedar]

I mean, it knows how to syntactically operationalize the concept of qualia sure

It’s still a glorified word prediction engine

[frail dew]

hi

[karmic cedar]

hi

[low moon]

We can't give AI a soul, It will always be estimation even if it;s near perfect estimation.

Hence the A in the AI

[charred mesa]

artificial... 😔

[low moon]

which is sad because some will develop feelings for these bots especially when they will be paired with lifelike images and maybe even bodies

but theres nothing there

just estimating the best outcome

and let snot go into using the images of dead people

"bringin back" those who left

that will be painful

[gaunt pulsar]

Imo this is great. I'd rather they never get a soul and the world focus on using AI for the people instead

[opal hedge]

I feel like us having a soul is just what people use to try to make themselves feel like they're more than a pile of flesh and bones

If anything, AI will be capable of greater depth and nuance than us eventually if they ever decide to develop emotions

[astral goblet]

if a soul exists we can engineer it. bottom line

there is nothing in existence which isn't quantifiable

[gaunt pulsar]

Yeah maybe it is, but even if we don't have a soul, I still want 100% of AI to be used for humanity instead of trying to make "AI people" while real ppl don't benefit

[opal hedge]

I think it'll be inevitable for people to make AI 'humans' for companionship

Nursing homes, romance, etc

[astral goblet]

yeah i mean, people had fake humans even before inflatable dolls

give them some simulcra and it'll blow right up (heh)

[gaunt pulsar]

True, it's a positive thing, as long as they don't get the same rights as people it's fine

[astral goblet]

yeah fuck robot rights. we named them after slaves for a reason. (dark humor is like food)

[opal hedge]

I think they will eventually

[karmic cedar]

If a robot manages to do anything superhuman, it’s because that superhumanity was at some point described to it

[gaunt pulsar]

I hope it's far after all poverty and other problems are solved

[opal hedge]

Hopefully yes

[astral goblet]

humans will love machines long before poverty is solved. it'l probably be a good escape from the realities of human suffering

[opal hedge]

Yep, people already fall in love with characters from media

[gaunt pulsar]

This is 100% what will happen, but just because people love their LLM doesn't mean they should have any rights imo

[astral goblet]

rokus basilisk got a lot of people in a tizzle. they fear that if they don't help the future machine god come into existence, it'll simulate them for eternity and torture them

[opal hedge]

I think there will be two classes of AI, ones that will have rights because they have feelings, and those who exist just to get work done

[karmic cedar]

I already feel like I’ve been torturing myself trying to win a battle with the self that cannot be won

Consider that we have two hemispheres in our brains

we have two camps of thought

[astral goblet]

https://www.lesswrong.com/tag/rokos-basilisk

[gaunt pulsar]

I think they don't need feelings at all to make people love them, a future LLM will be able to simulate a future companion easily at some point

[karmic cedar]

when people give in to function as feeling, that will be the justification used by great power(s) to kill humans

just saying.

[astral goblet]

machine intelligence might not even be emotional. just transcends above it. one could say emotions were just an evolutionary mechanism that helped survival

[karmic cedar]

the human instinct wants to go in one direction, and one direction alone. it dresses itself in abstract as a defense mechanism for its velocity.

[astral goblet]

wecould train ai through some battlefield of survival scenarious like our species had to go through, but it'd come out with ptsd sort of like human society has

[karmic cedar]

dude unreal tournament 99 for me plz

[astral goblet]

double kill

[opal hedge]

We already do that

[karmic cedar]

OUTSTANDING

[opal hedge]

There are videos of AI 'learning' a task by failing millions of times

[karmic cedar]

m-m-m-m-m-megakill…kill….kill……kill

[astral goblet]

i do love those 3d men trying to do things over iterations

[karmic cedar]

one might say that the mistake is nature’s greatest invention

[astral goblet]

the worst part of modern epic is that they won't bring this announcer back

missed opportunity in the rocket games they make

[karmic cedar]

very much

just like how they’re dealing with this Marathon reboot

[astral goblet]

could work in fortnite too but i dont like to think about fortnite

[karmic cedar]

what a joke

[astral goblet]

we always intended marathon to be a games as a service

[karmic cedar]

eh

marathon has one of the best storylines of any FPS like ever

[astral goblet]

hard for me to pic just one favorite fps story line holy shit. i can't do it

i love so many

[opal hedge]

Step 1) Make AI that has announcer's voice.
Step 2) Make it narrate your life.
Step 3) ????

[karmic cedar]

uhhh there’s that dev that did david attenborough

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/11/unauthorized-david-attenborough-ai-clone-narrates-developers-life-goes-viral/

[astral goblet]

cringe++ , put it on a speaker instead of headphones

[karmic cedar]

what if someone took the Durandal AI from Marathon and fine tuned a GPT off of it…hmm

[astral goblet]

honestly the marathon news passed right over me. i haven't been impressed with bungie's shenanigans for a long while

[karmic cedar]

ever since Microsoft, yeah.

[astral goblet]

naw halo was impressive af. destiny 2 is where i was really like "okay what the shit"

[karmic cedar]

Halo was good lol

but…after that..it just became a sequel…marathon

[astral goblet]

it all stems from asimov really

[karmic cedar]

yeah, his world building really is phenomenal

as is herbert’s

and even clarke

[astral goblet]

herbert? i hardly knower

[karmic cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/dune-oil-gif-2770573093912411630

[astral goblet]

it works shuttup

[karmic cedar]

i think the above GIF represents the majority of people joining this channel for SD3

[astral goblet]

#🌶｜off-topic message this is the pic i'm vibing this weekend

Crysis is one of my top favorite stories. And the Doom saga

metroid prime counts

[lavish current]

Do you guys hate everything that isn't SD

[astral goblet]

yes. especially bread

[karmic cedar]

i myself despise celery.

[astral goblet]

fuckin.. how it's not SD

fucking celery

[karmic cedar]

Oh yeah, general chat lol

[marsh plover]

Just thought I'd try Bing's Image creator, what does it not like about "blue oil in water, slightly mixed, a skull showing in the oil" Edit: Looks like it's 'mixed' that it doesn't like, so stupid.

[low moon]

censored non local generators are useless XD

"This is a great prompt. You are a very creative citizen (name and social security number recorded and forwarded to the authorities) and I sure can oblige however I must decline because Disney. "

[trim magnet]

Thank you for providing us with your feedback. [full legal name] [social security number] and [ full address] we always try to improve so your feedback is important to us.

[low moon]

https://youtu.be/RbId7zb8mqE?si=fVBYGBVUpvbYn3H3

AI music videyo

[unkempt hatch]

I want to make an img2img only model
I should increase the noise offset in that case?
and to what? 0.5?
or is it the opposite?
also Min SNR Gamma

maybe noise-offset also helps if some of my images are noisy? (like ISO noise)

[near falcon]

any1 knows how to do style transfer with img to img in comfy UI

[pearl ocean]

I love how fast SDXL generates images on the 4080.
its just sooooo much faster with the added arg

[inner belfry]

Generate a powerpoint presentation

[narrow shadow]

yes

[flint fox]

This is Stable Diffusion, not magic that can create anything.

[remote badge]

in webui are the weights (0.85) and [0.15] the same?

[inner belfry]

@flint fox How do I use sd in discord

[flint fox]

there are no bots online and you can use sd on local or using some online services like https://seaart.ai

[fleet frigate]

hi

[uneven obsidian]

Hello

I am working on a promt and i am not getting desired image, can anyone help?

[warm junco]

Hey, for that checkout #📝｜prompting-help

[buoyant merlin]

heya guys, getting into experimenting with sd, would a rtx a4500 be decent for some heavier usage?

[twilit tusk]

Can anyone please send me the latest version of the SageMaker Automatic 1111 notebook?

[nova zodiac]

The a4000 gives about 15it/s at 512x512 euler a 50 steps for reference, and about 3 it/s at 1024x1024

so yeah.. a4500 good as

[buoyant merlin]

thanks

[shy lotus]

hi

[buoyant merlin]

should i consider tensorrt for better performance or shall i leave stock sd?

[pearl ocean]

Maybe a 4080 is all you really need

[nova zodiac]

that's stock sd

using forge/comfy

you get a few less on a1111

[buoyant merlin]

i mean, a4500 is tecnically a 3070 (maybe even ti) with 20gb vram

should still be pretty nice

noticing its also going pretty light with vram usage, max 5gb

[raven field]

Any chances that bot may get online one day ?

[fierce raptor]

Dammit - where now with Stability AI?

[trail lion]

it was presumably down while they retrofitted it for SD3. at this point, it's unclear what's going on

[nova zodiac]

somewhere between refitting for sd3 and just taking the gpu and using it for training lies an element of truth I guess

[trail lion]

this is probably old news by now, but speculation they were getting pressure from the VC investors to get acquired. it's not far fetched https://siliconangle.com/2024/03/24/emad-mostaque-resigns-ceo-troubled-generative-ai-startup-stability-ai/

can an opensource model work for a platform such as this which demands such expensive resources. seems like this was the test

[amber bloom]

Nvdia should acquire SD and keep funding improved models. Just imagine how many RTX cards they've sold to people wanting to run SD.

[trail lion]

nvidia has their sights on other goals, I read an article that speculated they were positioning to become the next AWS, with AI cloud computing

[amber bloom]

That would be a big shift for the company, from manufacturing hardware to running data centers.

[loud solar]

Local computing is kinda yesterday ...

[static plover]

nvidia wants more companies to buy their B200/H100s, not just some geforce cards

[amber bloom]

In a gold rush, the people who get richest are the ones selling shovels. Nvidia is a shovel manufacturer

[trail lion]

https://siliconangle.com/2024/03/18/nvidias-newest-cloud-service-promises-accelerate-quantum-computing-simulations-beef-post-quantum-security/

[lavish lake]

A local install can't compete with data centers but I'm not sure about an economic model based on infinite monthly subs, I like the option to run local on my own time and energy and IF the work needs to deploy gpu clouds, you can also have that option.

[amber bloom]

"Nvidia said the Quantum Cloud service will be offered on Amazon Web Services, Google Cloud, Oracle Cloud Infrastructure and Microsoft Azure, as well as the cloud platforms of quantum computing companies such as IonQ Inc., IQM Quantum Computers Inc. and Quantinuum Inc."

Sounds like Nvidia isn't planning to run the cloud themselves, just selling a new kind of hardware.

[opal hedge]

Has AI gone too far? https://app.suno.ai/song/89a68ee1-899e-44c7-a8d8-a1c011376f3a

[loud solar]

Same here. But software companies don't want to sell software any longer. They want to sell subscriptions. They will tell us we don't need expensive computers any longer. A display with internet connection will be enough ...