💬｜general-chat

[olive wave]

That's definitely a great thing....but that doesn't make it any better to explain things in a way that even stupid little girls can understand... LOL

[warm junco]

use zluda on windows and you get 16 it/s and no vram limitations anymore, using it on my 7900xtx too

[trim magnet]

well most ppl here run it local,but if u have a gtx 970 i think u can run sd 1.5 with that card

[olive wave]

I don't use Windows.

https://tenor.com/view/arch-arch-linux-btw-i-use-arch-btw-monokuma-gif-26738028

the first time i was able to bring this meme...strike... 🤣

[warm junco]

Manjaro?, EndevourOS? Garuda?

[olive wave]

first xerolinux but he stopped with his distro. That's why I have to reinstall another distro. then wanted to go to ArcoLinux

[olive wave]

I really like EndevourOS

[warm junco]

ah interesting, didnt heard of them

[olive wave]

from what Arcolinux? I think the philosophy behind how Erik Dubois does it is really brilliant

[warm junco]

from xero and arco

[olive wave]

ah ok.... I only took Xero back then because it was purely an eye candy distro. damn pretty...pink and purple and bling bling. We women don't think twice about it...LOL...if it makes it blingbling we have to have it. 🤣

[warm junco]

just looked it up, yea looks really good. EndevourOS seems pretty similar

[trail lion]

ran gentoo for like 12 years, but that became so much of a chore, fixing it all the time when it broke, joined the mainstream *buntu crowd 😄

[olive wave]

I'll take a look at endevourOS on the VM....maybe I'll decide on that too..LOL

[fallen drum]

Im building a new pc for AI,and im wondering should i get ddr4 ram or spend extra for ddr5 ram

[pseudo nacelle]

can the 4GB VRAM still runs ControlNet and generating image at resolution ±960^2? xDD

[olive wave]

So now we've lost sight of what's important and I'm not really any wiser...LOL

https://www.runpod.io/console/gpu-cloud

is this a solid provider?

[warm junco]

yes

runpod is good

there is also paperspace

[trail lion]

and vast.ai

which is probably the cheapest

[warm junco]

you have to try, but i guess it can work if your using the 700mb small 1.5 controlnets models from here:
https://civitai.com/models/38784/controlnet-11-models

[trail lion]

cheapest for good gpu, that is

[pseudo nacelle]

ok thanks, I'll try it tomorrow. I find it interesting when I can just draw some stick man for the pose, and it does the pose xD

[trail lion]

cool, never tried that, which model?

openpose?

[olive wave]

but if I rent a GPU like that. How do I get the required vram so that SD can use localhost or do I have to host SD on the runpod rented server? ....sorry if these are stupid questions...lol

[trail lion]

you have to upload content, and use theirs

[warm junco]

you would have to setup SD on that cloud vm

[trail lion]

so vast and runpod let you sync with google drive

or there are other ways, going direct from your pc will be slow

[olive wave]

So there is no API endpoint solution to use it locally. or from me also a solution with Docker..lol...docker can do almost everything..LOL

[foggy halo]

guys any idea when will SD3 be released on HuggingFace

[warm junco]

There are docker containers for SD

[charred mesa]

can you guys stop asking man, its April when models MIGHT drop (files)

But remember, APPARENTLY, it's Emad's promises after all

[karmic cedar]

I’m actually less worried about SD3 than I am Emad and Stability.

I’m curious what direction SVD will go, in particular

[olive wave]

I know that there is a docker container. but I think it will be the same as locally hosted and the rented GPU.

[charred mesa]

yeah I wonder if we're even getting a Sora alternative this year or maybe next year

but as long as we get SD3 and SD3 Turbo I'll be satisfied for like 2-3 more years

its gonna be such a huge step up

[karmic cedar]

The less development velocity we see, the more we can infer that corporate influence is having its way.

In other words—Hollywood.

[charred mesa]

imagine pixart-sigma, but with 1.58 bit training so they can increase their dataset size and achieve SDXL quality

if that even works good with diffusion

[karmic cedar]

Indeed.

[charred mesa]

with LLMs probably

[karmic cedar]

I would imagine heavy human influence will cut down on the likes of Sora from hitting the mass public. It is likely being considered behind closed doors as a potential weapon of mass destruction, depending on what kind of political schtick you’re buying into these days

[charred mesa]

well being able to finetune a sora-like model would be extremely dangerous

[karmic cedar]

My point exactly.

[charred mesa]

yes

I can already imagine it in an alternate universe where it's finetuned on celebrities and CCTV footage

[karmic cedar]

that alternate universe is easily manifest in a single country

or two

the game is afoot. pressure is on all sides now

Sora did two things—it 1) impressed the hell out of shareholders, and 2) reminded the world that AI can, and will continue to mess with your most fundamental senses.

[glossy igloo]

extension DreamArtist-sd-webui-extension/don't appear in webui tab##Solved##: just follow the steps on the link : https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/discussions/14029

[fervent thunder]

stability ain't so stable

[karmic cedar]

open source never is. ***compute power is a factor in this argument

and the source itself? not to blame

[spring dawn]

Question for anyone out here using Animatediff + Comfy to do Vid2vid - suggestions on a way to keep Videocombine from crashing Comfy when combining longer videos (400+ frames)? I'm using Runpod w/ a nvidia RTX 4090 so I don't feel like vram should be this much of an issue...

[karmic cedar]

what’s your environment look like?

[spring dawn]

Micromamba

Although I'm not sure what you're asking

[karmic cedar]

what version of python / duda

cuda*

just for reference

[spring dawn]

Cuda 11.8

I think python 3.11

[karmic cedar]

Are you using the community template for Comfy?

assuming

[spring dawn]

No it's Stable Diffusion Kohya_ss ComfyUI Ultimate

[karmic cedar]

Gotcha. Hmm, not sure

I’ve used that template before, though I haven’t run that kind of workflow

[spring dawn]

videocombine works on videos around 200-300frames

No worries

Just thought i'd put feelers out there

I cn stitch them together in post, it's just annoying

[karmic cedar]

Yeah I was going to say, maybe there’s a way to split the task in the workflow

that is annoying tho

[unborn nexus]

anyone know where i can find a softedge model for controlnet?

[karmic cedar]

Hmm, you could try searching Replicate’s repositories…

They have a pretty well-indexed controlnet library these days

https://github.com/stitionai/devika

let’s gooooooo

[unborn nexus]

im not familiar with this, can you send me a link?

[karmic cedar]

http://www.replicate.com

under Explore you can search

Replicate’s staff does a good job of keeping up with the latest papers, etc.

[warm junco]

here it is:
https://civitai.com/models/38784?modelVersionId=44756

[unborn nexus]

thank you

[karmic cedar]

ahhh civit. it’s sort of like the open source amazon rn

i wonder if they knew how big they’d get

[unborn nexus]

that and hugging face

[karmic cedar]

yeah seriously

[spring dawn]

Anyone here have any luck finding a good way in ComfyUI to sync Animatediff to audio?

[unborn nexus]

do you have the one for lineart?

[warm junco]

Its in the same link, same site

There are all the models

[fervent thunder]

Can it compete with Imagen 2?

Where do I download the installer for Stable diffusion 3?

[gaunt pulsar]

There is an installer for SD3? 🤯

[fallen mural]

Hi, I think learning definition of AI is difficult. I made it easy by making songs of a basic deffinition. Do you like it: https://app.suno.ai/song/78ab7dff-a3fc-4038-90e2-d15cec8590d8/

[gaunt pulsar]

I checked Twitter and it seems to still not be released

[fervent thunder]

What are they waiting for, release it

[charred mesa]

well they promised more invites this week and it's already thursday, idk what's the holdup

I don't mind waiting for model weights till mid/end-April though, I think it should be properly cooked 🔥🧑‍🍳

and of course they promise controlnets and finetuning tools so that needs a lot of time till they're finished and optimized

Canny, Depth and OpenPose are a must

[iron pendant]

you can use a pytorch 2.x container and then pip install needed components

or use the cuda 12.1 container base nvidia/cuda:12.1.0-devel-ubuntu22.04

[low moon]

Good news is this is unstoppable. Im sure portrait painters were apphauled at photography as well, with one touch of a button you can replicate what for centuries took a lifetime to master.

[unborn nexus]

with automatic1111, does ControlNet not work with SDXL?

[low moon]

some does like canny and openpose

but u need special models

[teal pagoda]

it works, but it takes 100% years until you find some decent working ControlNets models like Canny, Openpose and so on

[karmic cedar]

anyone know of a good web-based PLY viewer, or are we just out of luck until more WebGL standards come into play?

[ancient spruce]

aibooru.online looks pretty cool 🤔

[unborn nexus]

so ultimately it will boil down to if i can track down a good controlnet model for sdxl?

it wouldnt matter if i tried running sdxl with controlnet on comfyui?

[olive wave]

https://app.suno.ai/song/8250b732-8f32-4be1-a38e-9d1c23f926b5/

[foggy halo]

guys suno V3 just released

I think sd3 should release too by now

[gaunt pulsar]

Why is everyone on v3? NAI v3, Dalle-3, SD3, Suno 3, Claude 3 lol

[foggy halo]

Yeaa even I noticed the same!

[iron pendant]

number go up

[foggy halo]

maybe lucky number in Ai evolution lol

[honest spear]

from my experience even on comfy it changes from cn model to cn model for sdxl, some like canny, especially full canny from diffusers are good, some seem to not work or be less effective

[iron pendant]

dang pretty impressive

[opal hedge]

Midjourney v6 in shambles

[opal hedge]

I just tried suno v3 and it shreds jesus

https://app.suno.ai/song/f435f67b-e5e3-4ef3-bd5e-c9764b90b550

[iron pendant]

https://app.suno.ai/song/7df3f524-39f9-4678-bee0-ba6ab4175417 lol schnappi!

[balmy rune]

thats AI?!

[low moon]

While I was focused on images it seems AI figured out sounds

[static cape]

Any news from Emad or others with early SD3 access?

[balmy rune]

SD3 feels like vaporware at this point

[fallen mural]

https://app.suno.ai/song/78ab7dff-a3fc-4038-90e2-d15cec8590d8/

[autumn egret]

Well, as long as there is no update for SD3 I'll use Stable Cascade. Unfortunately there is still no support in Automatic1111 but at least in Comfy it works.

[opal hedge]

We've seen samples of SD3 on twitter for a month now, so I wouldn't call it vaporware. Just a very sloooow release

[valid pulsar]

you can use it in a1111

[astral goblet]

like blockchain apps and crypto games.

ugh i'm so bummed out that stability is pivoting hard into the crypto space

[valid pulsar]

its basic and missing extensions, but you get pos neg prompt and renderer

[crude bay]

I think the most liked song is „in der Weihnachtbäckerei“ lol

Or is that region specific?

[iron pendant]

https://app.suno.ai/song/40e83bad-3ef2-40bf-aa89-8f49a5a981c1 HAHAHAHA awesome

[autumn egret]

Does it support loading trained checkpoints?

[astral goblet]

the automatic1111 extension isn't really an extension. it's just diffusers code wrapped into a tab and it doesn't integrate with the rest of the UI at all.

[valid pulsar]

no - its really basic just the model

[astral goblet]

if you get into the extension code and point it at a different version of the diffusers checkpoint, then yeah it should load it no problem

[autumn egret]

I finetuned stage_c and it worked out really good, guess I will stick to ComfyUI...

[valid pulsar]

havent used comfy in awhile - have multiple loras gotten any easier to use? a1111 you just put it in the prompt with weight - as many as you want. can you do this in comfy?

[astral goblet]

there are custom nodes called stackers

[valid pulsar]

and you need a stacker for each lora?

[astral goblet]

no. one stacker provides multiple lora loading.

[valid pulsar]

is this built in or an addition?

[astral goblet]

https://civitai.com/articles/1997/comfyui-guide-to-stacker-nodes

[valid pulsar]

thanks!!

[astral goblet]

custom node. not default

[weary raven]

I have a crush on the spanish crown princess

[analog shoal]

Hi everyone, I am looking for artists who have built Stable Diffusion into their workflow or are creating incredible works. Do you have any inspirations you can share with me? 🤩

[teal pagoda]

Suno V3 is dope...

Thanks for sharing here that the V3 is out. I didn't notice

Went and tried it

[dusk canopy]

my gpu deadass just ate this lora

lol

[stone latch]

Suno is good!

Is V3 still in Alpha?

Damn, it's out!

[charred mesa]

yeah its fun

[stone latch]

Is it an improvement over V3 Alpha?

[teal pagoda]

Idk, I don't remember, but this version is sick

[crude notch]

uncompatible, it is gonna be optimized so expect everything to be on 8b

[fallen gale]

wait core is not sd3 is it?

[stone latch]

Source?

[fallen gale]

nah i dont think it did

they have something called "stable diffusion core" but i think its different

yea it says "Stay tuned for Stable Diffusion 3 to be added to this category as well."

[dusk canopy]

L

[reef sparrow]

hello everybody, where can i post a question about "controlnet" ?

[dusk canopy]

Controlnet don't work for me

Only works on sd1.5

Someone generate "average Pitbull named princess"

[karmic cedar]

or how about “above-average Pitbull concert”

[dusk canopy]

I don't like pitbulls

One almost killed me

[karmic cedar]

i don’t like pitbull concerts

[dusk canopy]

😂

[karmic cedar]

those are killers in themselves

[fervent thunder]

i gen img with refiner and 2 models, always img2img. i just got started using lora's. im a bit confused abt weights. i also dunno how to train a model, but i think maybe i should

im gonna use my base model i like for anime, and train a lora that focuses on the parts i like. character, art-style, instead of objects and backgrounds. idk how many loras or exactly what a lora should be though. like it could be a pose right, or an entire character.. what about more abstract concepts like making a negative lora "dupes" that removes duplicates or something

[stone latch]

I'm not sure how familiar you are with loras, but put simply, loras are small models that tweak the image in order to add a specific character, style, or concept. I don't remember seeing loras for multiple characters 🤔 Usually when looking at Civitai, I see loras that represent a certain person or fictional character.

[echo robin]

Is there a website listing all graphics card and their it/s? Like there is with mining and that hash/s?

[karmic cedar]

I can’t wait for the S3 ViRGE

🥁

[idle heath]

using the new SD FORGE and im curoius do my models need to match by current SD /

ah nvm figured it out

[ornate kindle]

【faceswap】Is there a way to maintain the makeup on the face of the model whose face has been changed after faceswap?

[foggy halo]

OMG where is it?

[foggy halo]

can you tell me the link or the website name so i can see it

thanks

[crude notch]

https://platform.stability.ai/

soon™️

iirc the timeline for sd3 is something like this:
[dev n important people release (7+ days ago)]----[limited release (this week, or soon™️)]-----[code? (this week+)]-----[semi-open release (2+ weeks)]-----[full model release (1+ months)]

[foggy halo]

Omg thankyou so much for the update!

[sterile raven]

Its not out for the api

Its a lie

[foggy halo]

1+ months...that plus sign kinda worries me

like what if it's 2 or 3 something 😭

I literally can't wait

I'm absolutely blown away by the phenomenal results I've seen on Twitter

[crude notch]

thats the 8b model, aka the one You Should Care About

[foggy halo]

oh so there's another model in there?

[crude notch]

4 models

800m (sd1.x sized), 2b (sdxl sized), 6b, 8b

8b will barely run on 12gb vram

without offloading

[foggy halo]

ohh I really didn't Know about that

[crude notch]

(e.g. have model in ram, load one part at a time)

[foggy halo]

I have a 8gb ram laptop Intel i5

so ig will have to wait for HuggingFace release

online trying out

[crude notch]

there's a discord bot for testers afaik

[foggy halo]

ooh a secret one maybe!?

[crude notch]

no, not secret at all

just extremely limited access

afaik theres a dozen non-sai people in the server

emad did say that they'd send out a lot of invites this week

but it's also emad so....

[foggy halo]

I follow his Twitter a lot for updates...I'm literally waiting for the day he says it's out now for all

also Lykon posts those super cool images

and a few other accounts who have access to Sd3

there is this turbo model as well that was announced ig yesterday?

[crude notch]

sd3 turbo got announced?

[trail lion]

there are loras for multiple characters, but you can also make them if what is there doesnt work

[valid pulsar]

i have my 3090 warming up for release - will 8gb model fit in 24GB ram?

[fallen gale]

it didnt yet my bad

[crude notch]

easily

[pseudo nacelle]

Man, I even use a 5gb model on my 4gb vram 🥲

[crude notch]

also not 8gb

its 8 billion parameters

true model size is around 15-30gb

[opal hedge]

What's the point of a 6b param model

I feel like no one will make loras for it since you might as well just go for 8b at that point

4b would have been more sensable imo

[ruby finch]

haven't been here for a while, is there no more image generation anymore?

[trail lion]

no bot has been down for a long while, there's a bot status channel that you can check

[crude notch]

all smaller models are an afterthought

also, 8gb vram fits 6b but not 8b iirc

[cedar quiver]

Is there any significance to whether you put LORA trigger words before the <lora: yadda yadda yadda:1> text or after?

My tag auto-complete extension does it before

[trail lion]

my understanding is the < > lora tags are removed at execution time and arent actually part of the prompt, so they can appear anywhere. Having said that, for the rest of the tokens, the stuff at the front is weighted higher

[cedar quiver]

oh ok

[haughty saddle]

Its not out for the api

[crude notch]

wont be out for a while

[trim magnet]

it released yet?

[timber linden]

no

[trim magnet]

what about now

[crude notch]

7/5/2024

[trim magnet]

when

[timber linden]

gmt+8 9:00pm

[heavy lark]

looks stability AI's api is up.

i got it up and running and it's really quick.

10-15 seconds for 6 2048x1152 images.

[spark kite]

hey guys, im new here and new to stable diffusion, i really need a helping hand if anyone has the time to assist

[heavy lark]

depends on how bad your install is broken. 🙂

[spark kite]

lmao @heavy lark for recieving help purposes id start a fresh instal

May I DM you? @heavy lark 🙃

[heavy lark]

nah, it's too late for me now. going to bed.

[spark kite]

roger that sir, appreciate you regardless, have good sleepies 🙂

[pearl ocean]

So, are you telling me, that SD3 will have even prettier woman?

[pearl ocean]

I just have a simple old 4080

[stuck sun]

just more vram i guess

[pale latch]

about three fiddy

[stuck sun]

cheapest listing on ebay for the card i have is 1499 obo :/

[pale latch]

14.99 sold

[stuck sun]

got it, don't ask for advice here lol

[pale latch]

got anymore of those quadros? /scratches

i got these cheese burgers man

[trim magnet]

sd4 where

[ripe bane]

welp (i know this is way later lol busy life) but for some reason changing that nvidia setting didnt seem to help... with same exact deforum settings, its still 600 max frames, and still a 6 hour eta. Heres a screenshot of my task manager and memory while generating... Is this expected and normal or should it be faster?

oh nevermind cant put screenshots

ill put it in tech support my bad

[warm junco]

Hey, In the #🤝｜tech-support channel you find install guides in the Pinned Messages

[mystic rapids]

hey, mates

[storm shard]

🤔
Stability AI on twitter
"Generate: Create new, original media from text descriptions using our flagship image service Stable Image Core or our groundbreaking image models including the soon to be released Stable Diffusion 3. (2/4)"

[cloud linden]

What model is used in "Stable Image Developer Platform"? It's definitely not SDXL. Maybe Stable cascade?

[spark kite]

@warm junco thank you!

[woven grove]

As far as I remember, after running 100 computing units, you can still use it for 8-10 hours a day, but now it's stopped after 2 hours.
What the hell is going on?

[hoary barn]

What to do if my CPU is on fire?

[hidden drum]

ummm i would turn the fan up maybe

but otherwise leave it, high temps build character

[old solstice]

"a very good XL model" - Lykon

[charred hare]

Does anyone know if https://github.com/castorini/daam has a script for this for comfy?

[hoary barn]

I guess I will need a new CPU, it just melted.

[sly pawn]

hello

does anyone know how i can fix this

"RuntimeError: Found no NVIDIA driver on your system. Please check that you have an NVIDIA GPU and installed a driver from http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx"

I have an AMD gpu

and i dont know how to change it from nvidia to amd

im new to ai genning

[stone latch]

Which WebUI are you using?

[sly pawn]

stable diffusion

[stone latch]

Stable Diffusion is the image generation model, the WebUI is the user interface allowing you to use it 🙂

Are you using Automatic1111?

It has AMD support

[sly pawn]

oh

uhh

yeah im on automatic1111

https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki/Install-and-Run-on-AMD-GPUs

i went on here

and i did all the steps

[stone latch]

I was about to link that 😅

[sly pawn]

but its still wanting to use nvidia

[stone latch]

Are you sure you followed all the steps?

[sly pawn]

yeah

like i watched a video too

i did it all

well except the 4-6gb vram thing

because i have 12gb

[stone latch]

Yes, that step is unnecessary in this case

🤔 I am unsure why you're having issues

[sly pawn]

🤷‍♂️

[stone latch]

Back when I had my poor little AMD GPU (with 4 GB of VRAM), this method worked just fine

[sly pawn]

wait

im reading it and

it says

"Windows+AMD support has not officially been made for webui,
but you can install lshqqytiger's fork of webui that uses Direct-ml."

im using windows and an amd gpu

does it just not work for me

[stone latch]

No, you simply need to install the aforementioned fork 🙂

A fork is a "copy" of a github repository, so I'm assuming this person rewrote parts of the code to make it possible to run A1111 on an AMD GPU

[sly pawn]

how do i install the fork

[stone latch]

Well, the thing is, looking at the steps,

git clone https://github.com/lshqqytiger/stable-diffusion-webui-directml && cd stable-diffusion-webui-directml && git submodule init && git submodule update

[teal pagoda]

What AMD GPU do you have?

[stone latch]

It literally should install this fork

[sly pawn]

AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6-Core Processor

[teal pagoda]

It's really not worth running SD on AMD. Tried it myself and killed my RX 580 8GB GPU.

[stone latch]

Well...

This is an integrated GPU

[teal pagoda]

Yea

don't even try running SD on your PC

go to cloud GPU services

[sly pawn]

wheres that

[teal pagoda]

like vast.ai or runpod or rundiffusion/thinkdiffusion

[stone latch]

You can run Stable Diffusion on your PC, but it will be exhaustingly slow

[sly pawn]

how slow

[stone latch]

Base SD 1.5 takes like 2-3 minutes to generate a single picture.

Base SDXL takes 40 minutes

on CPU

[teal pagoda]

:))))) man, tried to run it on CPU and it was taking like 30-60 minutes just to use hires. fix on an image

[stone latch]

For context, Base SDXL takes around 11-12 seconds on my GPU, and SDXL checkpoints usually between 30-40 seconds

So imagine if you use an SDXL checkpoint on CPU...

Hours for a single photo 😭

[teal pagoda]

:))))

[stone latch]

I would die inside

[teal pagoda]

You better don't imagine that

[sly pawn]

ok but

is there no way

to switch from nvidia to amd

on the webui

[teal pagoda]

nah

[stone latch]

If your GPU is integrated, I don't think you can

[sly pawn]

for automatic1111

man

[teal pagoda]

look, I have this tutorial which should work for you

so you don't ruin your PC

[sly pawn]

yessir

[teal pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwLY0bsQpx4&t=1s

I think I'll take it down at 1500-2000 views. I don't wish to make this method oversaturated.

They already banned stable diffusion on google colab.

[sly pawn]

unreal

[teal pagoda]

?

[sly pawn]

just an expression

anyway

[bleak matrix]

Good morning, everyone!

[sly pawn]

im doign the method you gave me

with the video

ill let you know if it works

[sly pawn]

👋

[teal pagoda]

Alright, just don't leak the notebook

[sly pawn]

yessir

[teal pagoda]

I really researched for some time to make everything to work

[sly pawn]

question

when im doing it

[bleak matrix]

How are you all doing?

[sly pawn]

is it meant to look exactly like the video

[teal pagoda]

Good, man. Thanks

[sly pawn]

because if not im having a lot of problems

[stone latch]

👋

[teal pagoda]

you can go into a voice channel and share the screen, so I can see what you get

[sly pawn]

i would love that

[bleak matrix]

Good to hear! What's everyone up to this morning?

[teal pagoda]

!pip install aria2

[dusk canopy]

Hello chat

[teal pagoda]

Just helped @sly pawn to get a1111 up and running on a cloud GPU service

[bleak matrix]

Nice!

That's always tons of fun!

[bleak matrix]

Hullo, hullo!

[warm junco]

Thats the CPU, whats your AMD GPU?

If you want to get SD running on your onboard AMD GPU, you need to follow this guide:
#🤝｜tech-support message

[flat mason]

hi, how long would I expect to run StableCascade on something like RTX 4070?

is 20min right or did I do something wrong with installation?

[fallen mural]

Great. I will try reggae!!!

[dusk canopy]

Funny

[plain wharf]

I would like to inspect the training settings for safetensor ai models. Windows Notebook will show these settings if you drop the safetensor into the txt file. Is there a better method to inspect the settings, or an app?

[trail lion]

in the techsupport channel under pinned messages there's a guide for getting this running

guessing you missed a step and ended up with the nvidia torch packages

[abstract dagger]

anyone know a good text to speech voice/website?

[trail lion]

have you looked at microsoft's? https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/free/ai-services/

[abstract dagger]

ill look into it

[trail lion]

depending on what you're doing, they put a bunch of controls around training it on a 'custom' voice

[abstract dagger]

need a smooth calm interesting voice for some story telling shorts

[teal pagoda]

Legit some people from reddit are braind3ad

[trail lion]

no way

[teal pagoda]

especially the mods

[trail lion]

I stopped going there, just kind of leaves a bad taste after that whole policy change with 3rd party software, and the IPO

[teal pagoda]

Asked a mod if I can post very good AI art and he said this

"Delusional, eh? I really don't want to sound rude, but you clearly are the one that is delusional. Let me list off some things AI is:

1. On the same topic of artistry, AI steals and learns on actual art that real people with real skills have used their precious time to create for us and for the beauty to be appriciated by others. But what about AI? Look at what the AI generates. It is so very clear on what the AI creates, it looks bad, gorey, and unrealistic. It steals art from actual good art, only to create utter trash, they say they will get better, but why? Is it really so hard to undermine real artists and their skills, steal their work, only to create a tool that unemployed and unskilled people like you can easily create mediocre "art"? AI "art" has absolute no skill in it, no soul, nothing. It is merely a robot having stolen already existing art and making it into something purely abyssmal.
2. The "AI Revolution" you so much preach about like a demented priest and their god, do you seriously think you would be exempted? If this revolution happens, what is there to protect you? I know you already are unemployed, but lets imagine for a minute that you have a job, this "revolution" will take over most jobs and place it at the hands of AI and robots. Then what will we do? No work for us, actual humans, do you have any idea of the actual impact it will have on society? Not to mention the pure bias AI has."

:))))

these people, man

will be the first losing their jobs

"3) On the topic of society, you have noticed the increased amounts of AI generated content on the internet like the things you see on TikTok or Youtube Shorts for example. It is so easy to socially engineer and manipulate people, especially when its targeted at younger and unknowing people. What is stopping me from spreading disinformation using AI? I can easily create an incriminating image or fake image of someone/something that could land them in a lot of trouble. Whats stopping me creating images using AI about war for example? I could easily create an image that could show Russia in a good light for example, except them being clearly in the wrong.
4) On the topic of AI stealing art and images to get trained, there is a clearly big lack of privacy and data privacy. You have heard about the recent events of people creating nudes of others with AI and spreading them around, right? What laws, what tools is there to protect them? Or, well, if AI didn't exist at all there, it wouldn't have happened. Speaking of which, when has there ever been a time where AI has been proven useful? Sure, lets say a big company fires a bunch of people to use an AI tool instead. What is there to ensure whatever the AI finds is actually true? There has been numerous cases about AI being wrong and spreading disinformation, which a human would have caught and/or not made in the first place. Besides, the cost of AI can be and will be more than it costs to employ an actual human that'll do a better job.

I will NOT have ANY of your shit, you will never be successfull with AI, and you will never be able to do anything with AI thats actually is good or benefit society in any way. If you want me to continye my list please say so, i would be so happy to do so."

There's more, but I'm tired of this and won't post

[trail lion]

reddit owns the posts, and now they're selling it to be harvested. they can have ti

[teal pagoda]

Yea, I remember that

:)))))

[heavy lark]

Wow. Pretty much the whole world disagrees with him.

[teal pagoda]

Yep

Typical reddit mod ape

[heavy lark]

Literally the platform he's modding disagrees with him.

[teal pagoda]

exactly

And imagine that even the owners of reddit agreed to sell the data from reddit to AI training LLMs companies

yet they are so delusional

🙂

[trail lion]

if you really want to be there, anyone can creata a sub

[heavy lark]

He's acting like his spitting in the wind protest will stop what's coming.

[teal pagoda]

Nah, was just wandering :)))

man, I can't

just look at his next arguments

:)))))))

[fallen gale]

when we getting 3

[trail lion]

when it's ready

[heavy lark]

That said, I'd stick to the mains there, artificial, stablediffusion, and localllama

[teal pagoda]

yea, right

imagine this mod sees AI as a danger

"1) It is very easy to create AI images, especially if you compare it to real art. Sure, if i just take Stable Diffusion and just tinker with prompts, i'll probably get something that looks like trash (like every piece of AI does), but if i had a specific thing i wanted, i could literally just feed a model images of it, and i would get it within a few prompts, prompts can be hard yes, but its absolutely nothing compared to the skill needed to become an actual artist.
2) I will ignore the fact that you didn't answer my questions, but why should we adapt to something that could be so potentially dangerous? The AI we have now is still primitive even though its advanced, its potential is endless, but dangerous. Even now, many systems are getting replaced by AI, especially among those systems are important ones like the ones the government has, and will continue to replace more and more systems. What if AI is wrong? There is so many cases of them being wrong, imagine them being wrong in a government system. It could cost lives, and how are we supposed to hold it accountable? And frankly, i do not care about your "research", anyone can research and come up with their own conclusions, i would actually think about what you're saying if you had an education in AI, like, a real one, from an University. And whats stopping YOU being replaced? Who says that eventually, AI will get so intelligent, that even the technicians working on it will get replaced because it can fix itself?"

"3) This is not old. Yes, it has happened before, but after the introduction to more and more powerful image generators, the problem, not only about the nudes n such, has flared up exponentionally. Look at Facebook, the place is riddled with the pest that is AI, old and young people thinking images of a young african child having built something extrodinary, despite it clearly being AI is real, among other AI generated images that perhaps show a politician doing something illegal to try to sway others into believing thay they are bad, or create fake audio clips of them saying something crazy, its a serious problem. The government shouldn't be regulating AI because it shouldn't be such a problem, but it is, hence why you see more and more governments around the world start regulating it, like Italy does. I will once again ignore the fact that you are ignoring the most important part of my argument.
4) Yes, many, many companies steal our info, but what about the fact that the current AIs is infact not getting regulated and breaching many laws regarding personal data, especially in the EU? The eventual upkeep of AI will get even bigger and bigger, as they need bigger computers and more electricity because they become so "intelligent", it might be that AI is cheaper than a human right now, but it'll get much more expensive. And i will ignore the fact that you again again, ignore the most important thing in that argument, its fine."

[charred mesa]

[teal pagoda]

enough, sorry for these, but the reddit mods are legit braind3ad

[trim nymph]

when they add more users to the beta?

[heavy lark]

I should never do anything because I'm only going to focus on the most negative aspects of anything I look at as if they're unsolvable problems. /s

[teal pagoda]

Yea

exactly

There's no evolution without some risks attached

[charred mesa]

was promised for this week, should have doubted it

its already friday

guess its next week then

[trail lion]

he probably feels like ai gen art should have it's own sub, and that's a point I could understand. all those other arguments, meh...people get wound up

[heavy lark]

Looking at what lykon has posted, I think it's definitely progressing but it's probably slow going. They keep posting more and more impressive stuff, implying there's a daily evolution going on, so I'm assuming it'll be a while.

[teal pagoda]

sad we don't really have good subs for AI images

[trail lion]

but you can make one

anyone can make one

[charred mesa]

would people join though

[trail lion]

if not, then it wasnt meant to be

[heavy lark]

I think the constant mention of "the fine tunes will be great!" Also means we should temper our expectations for the sd3 base. It makes things possible, but the best stuff will be 6-8 months from now.

[teal pagoda]

but I won't get people

[charred mesa]

^

[trail lion]

chicken/egg...if nobody makes one there wont be a following, and if there's no following nobody will make one

[charred mesa]

I don't know, for photos I'd be fine with the base model for quite some time

[teal pagoda]

Kinda right

[charred mesa]

I'm more interested in finetuned that bring in more actions and expressions

photo quality looks like SDXL finetuned

[teal pagoda]

Did any of you get the chance to play with SD3 so far?

[charred mesa]

hell nah

[teal pagoda]

:((

same

[charred mesa]

I did get to give a prompt to thibaud on twitter

[charred mesa]

*buzz lightyears on store shelves gif*

[heavy lark]

I have a couple that were made for me. Very impressive stuff.

[charred mesa]

yeah I remember the dragon one

that was nice

[teal pagoda]

Can show?

[heavy lark]

Are we allowed to post images here?

[teal pagoda]

Idk

[still glacier]

nope, that s what #🏞｜general-with-images is for

[heavy lark]

Ok I just posted my 2 sd3 pics there in general with images channel

[trail lion]

is smaug wearing a suit? 😄

[heavy lark]

The prompt was: An anthropomorphic dragon in a tuxedo eating with a fork at a fancy table, surrounded by piles of gold. Also at the table of various very nervous dwarves in armor.

[trail lion]

how did he get the suit on though, no opposable thumbs 😛

[charred mesa]

lol

[still glacier]

no, cf #🤝｜tech-support message

[echo robin]

Ty

[hoary barn]

Does anyone knows why my laptop shows a Storage drive error everytime I turn it off?

[trail lion]

maybe you're hacked

[hoary barn]

I recently renewed my ESET security license.

[karmic cedar]

Contact your technical support representative

[trail lion]

geek squad

[red hedge]

hey frens im looking for help on a project! dm if you want to help frens

[trail lion]

what's a fren

[red hedge]

a friend

fren

[trail lion]

according to freedictionary.com it means stranger

I can live with that

[quasi moth]

Excuse me, are there any experts of ComfyUI here?

[trail lion]

probably, but there's also a comfy-ui chat room

[wind ingot]

Can someone explain why in A41 1.8 there's a soft inpaint tab in img2img but not in inpaint tab?

Does it take the mask from inpaint tab? 😕

[quasi moth]

Thanks , i found it

[wind ingot]

Sry, my confusion,it does show up, but after checking the box in img2img

[low moon]

Anyone who thinks AI is going to replace humans and that AI art can produce wonders that out perform artists with 1 half assed promt has never worked with AI for a second.

[frozen helm]

yeah.

[trail lion]

at the rate it's changing, hard to see otherwise, it's just stubborn abstinence

one of my fav futuristic depictions was actually from the move Wall-E, the earth was a waste land and humans basically did nothing but eat and consume media, robots did everything, it was pretty fascinating, and funny at the same time

[teal pagoda]

True

You can't even argue with these people, they have a too low IQ to understand anything

They think we just smash the keyboard and voila! A good image...

[teal pagoda]

No tool is bad on this planet. A knife is not bad. It depends on the user's intention. That was an example from an univ teacher. You can either use it for slicing the bread or you can use it to kill someone

[valid pulsar]

this is certainly true if you are working for clients who always want CHANGES! generation becomes much more difficult

[teal pagoda]

Save your mind and don't even try to argue with "redditors mods"

they're brainwashed

even their company sold all their content for LLMs trainings

🙂

[tender sparrow]

Hi everyone, just joined the group! I'm looking to make some trippy videos for my music and have been trying several different trials of different generative ai. Although free would be great, I would absolutely pay for something that gets the job done well. does anyone else recommend Stable for this use?

[teal pagoda]

Yes, but you need minimum 24 GB of VRAM

[dusk canopy]

i found dall e 3 level model

only issue is 10gb vram usafge

[dusk canopy]

if you offload to cpu and sys ram youll get 2 min image gens

easy

[teal pagoda]

Pixart?

[dusk canopy]

no

huggingface

[teal pagoda]

what model?

[tender sparrow]

Thanks for the response! only have 16 on the laptop, So I guess the PC at home will have to do

[dusk canopy]

check #🏞｜general-with-images

[teal pagoda]

Yea, you really need 24 GB for good videos with consistency and hires.

[teal pagoda]

https://civitai.com/models/350524/jboogx-and-the-machine-learners-animatelcm-subject-and-background-isolation-via-invertmask-vid2vid-highresfix - check this out

Drop this workflow on comfy and you're good to go

[tender sparrow]

awesome, ill check it out!

[teal pagoda]

Is the model public?

[dusk canopy]

trained obna shiton of loras

[teal pagoda]

Is the prompting similar with the Dalle's?

I see

:))

[dusk canopy]

ye

i trained them myself

[teal pagoda]

check this prompt "An old man fallen by a tree on a pile of leaves in a forest and his 18 years old daughter by his side. They are poorly dressed, illustration"

let me know what results you get

[dusk canopy]

i think it will fail

hit and miss tbf

[teal pagoda]

poorly dressed with the sense that they are poor

poor people

[charred mesa]

poor

[teal pagoda]

Dall-E 3 kinda understands this prompt

[charred mesa]

https://twitter.com/r_Mada_art/status/1771228006939344928

[dusk canopy]

ok

done

let me post

[charred mesa]

@astral goblet a model finetuner got access to SD3

so uhhh, good for them I guess

more portrait shots

[gaunt pulsar]

How did you do that?

[charred mesa]

its right there

the plus button

and Create Poll

[gaunt pulsar]

Thanks

[charred mesa]

I hope we won't get muted for this but

lets see

[limpid fable]

i want to make some tribal videos which stable diffusion i can use ? Text2video

[trail lion]

do we know the default res? is it still 1024?

[charred mesa]

yes

It's not like Kohya Deep Downsample and Highresfix doesn't exist + isn't VRAM still a concern

[trail lion]

yah I'm frankly hoping my 16g card will still be good

[charred mesa]

I think 16GB will be fine

If it won't work on 12GB, it might turn into Deepfloyd, idk how much worse the 2B model will be, ESPECIALLY in prompt adherence

which was our goal

[abstract dagger]

what is a prompt for drone shot alike?

[charred mesa]

'aerial view' maybe

but sometimes it ends up looking like a satellite photo

[abstract dagger]

xd

[sullen wedge]

,

[trim nymph]

above

bird(s) eye view

[dusk canopy]

Jt will work

Offload to ram

💀

[charred mesa]

well I know the Comfyui method

I just mean DiT weights themselves (SD3 8B)

[faint loom]

where do I go to enter a prompt and generate images ?

[unborn nexus]

anyone know of any good loras for black women/men? I've been trying create comics but i cant seem to get proper skin tone or hair styles

[stone latch]

You can't enter a prompt on Discord, you can however install a web UI to get started with Stable Diffusion 🙂

[unborn nexus]

https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui

a1111 has a very simple gui to get started with

installation guide is on the page i sent but there should be a bunch of youtube videos for installinit as wlel

[fervent thunder]

Literally anyone can buy a 24 GB card right now, there's no reason the top-end model shouldn't utilize all of it

[iron pendant]

I feel 8b is not a random number and translates to bf16/fp16 on 24gb, similar to 7b llms

it may even require moving the clip models off gpu to cpu after the embedding is calculated to free up vram for the mmdit model to do forward pass, not a huge deal since the clip models dont actually need to sit in vram after they've been called once

[charred mesa]

so you think the 8B mmDiT model will take up ~20+ GB of vram? (Or like, a lot)

[iron pendant]

I'll assume for most users using t5 xxl is going to be impractical, but paper states it can simply be dropped entirely for inference with low quality penalty a

yes 8b is probably going to use up your entire 24gb in 16bit

[charred mesa]

well we can offload that as well + int8 + possibly even running it on CPU (Don't know if it's massively slower)

[iron pendant]

unless we find it can work in fp8 or int4, etc

[charred mesa]

welp, I'm giving up on SD3 8B

the hype has died then

[old solstice]

8b is 16GB in fp16. Not sure why there's an argument, this is just a fact.

[iron pendant]

I mean, 8b is a big model for home users, full stop

[iron pendant]

thats just weights, sure, you need vram for attention

[charred mesa]

guess the 8B model will become Deepfloyd/IF, only accessible to like 10% of the community and therefore it might not get much traction (besides API usage and a very small offline community)

So 2B then 🤷‍♂️

it's gonna be smaller than SDXL

[iron pendant]

I wouldn't get so worried about not being able to run 8b, there are always going to be models that are not going to fit into <arbitrary vram limit>

there are plenty of models out ther that barely run on 48gb, too, or require 80gb, or 300gb

[charred mesa]

SD Community: "I don't wanna play with you anymore"

lol

time to wish the best with 2B then

[iron pendant]

2b might become a better model because it leaves room on 24gb to run controlnets and stuff

the architecture lends itself to adding layers, people will probably take 2B and add layers to make 2.5b, etc. too

and fit to whatever sizes they want

[charred mesa]

Well good for those 24GB users then 👍

[iron pendant]

yeah even 24gb enjoyers may not want to use the 24gb model because it leaves no room for other stuff like hypernetworks, or may require shifting models in and out of vram

[novel narwhal]

quick question, is there a way to change where loras / models are saved? dont wanna fill up my ssd with them and stable diffusion on HDD probably isnt as fast

[rich kestrel]

symbolic links

[novel narwhal]

time to google

ah

in web user bat or something?

[rich kestrel]

in cmd

mklink /D "models" "C:/YourFolder"

[novel narwhal]

"C:/YourFolder" should be my hdd where i wanna store stuff?

[rich kestrel]

Yassur

[novel narwhal]

and the /D is where stable diffusion is located right? and where it currently stores stuff

[rich kestrel]

no. just navigate to the SD folder and click the folder icon in the URL bar

then type cmd

and then type in the command and it will create that folder in the correct directory

assuming that there isnt one already called models

[novel narwhal]

ok so just in case

rn i have
mklink /D "models" "F:/Models"

stable diffusion is on SSD C: drive and i wanna store my models and loras on my F drive

do i press the scary enter button

[rich kestrel]

yeah, just make sure the F:/models folder already exists

[novel narwhal]

alr

[rich kestrel]

I would just cut it from the original C: and place it there so that the folder structure remains

[novel narwhal]

ah yh

ok done

do i do this every time i start it up or is it just a one time thing

[rich kestrel]

its just one time

[novel narwhal]

guess its fine?

o cant send pisc

said it cant create a file when it already exists

but im guessing cause i pressed enter, saw nothing happen and then pressed it again

ill try getting a lora in it

dont think stable diffusion is picking it up

let me try the command again

a yup i did a stupid

i accidentally copied the models file instead of cutting it

tyty

[thick cliff]

I apologize for the confusion, but I posted when I was in #sd3 search mode. I didn't know that posting at that moment added the tag to the tweet. I've deleted them and added the new ones without the tag. https://twitter.com/r_Mada_art/status/1771292484703797630

[charred mesa]

Thank you

[lone moat]

The issue with Deepfloyd IF was poor speed and quality even if you could run it, so there was no real payoff for running it. Meanwhile SD3 is a really good model so if you can run it at the highest quality you'd probably want to

[jade bronze]

What would you guys recommend for an XL Checkpoint to use for images to be used in a D&D campaign? Character art, scenery, locations, items, etc.

I'd like something with a HIGH degree of flexibility and ability to understand my prompts.

Or would splitting it into one for characters and one for scenery/maps make more sense?

[crude notch]

confirmation, 12gb can barely run it

[trail lion]

Have you checked civit? I know I've seen some humanoid and creature stuff there. Not what I'm into, so don't remember any specifics

You have to wade through pages of toon stuff

[jade bronze]

Yeah I've grabbed a few off Civit but there's so many and the top 3 or 4 most rated Checkpoints/Loras have been a bit lackluster and inflexible compared to Midjourney. Hoping too switch from that to my local install of SD.

[dusk canopy]

Offload it

[crude notch]

12gb can do all at once

smaller vram can offload

as of now btw

it can quantize as a dream

[dusk canopy]

For what model.
M

?

Cascade?

[topaz parcel]

when using A1111 , whenever I try to do img2img with an XL model, I get this notification. Why?

NansException: A tensor with all NaNs was produced in Unet. This could be either because there's not enough precision to represent the picture, or because your video card does not support half type. Try setting the "Upcast cross attention layer to float32" option in Settings > Stable Diffusion or using the --no-half commandline argument to fix this. Use --disable-nan-check commandline argument to disable this check.

[stone latch]

I get this with certain XL models too, I'm not sure what the issue is. Have you tried setting the model to f32 as suggested?

[topaz parcel]

yep - same message

[topaz parcel]

I just re -launched using this command - and now seems to work. ./webui.sh --no-half

[stone latch]

Great!

[topaz parcel]

I have no idea if the no half command affects anything negatively. oh well

[warm junco]

Its using a lot more vram and likely will error out at larger resolutions

[topaz parcel]

ahh - ok

[warm junco]

Its only needed for GTX 16xx GPUS or AMD RX 5xx

[dusk canopy]

Lol

[warm junco]

For sdxl you may need to add --no-half-vae
That won't increase the vram usage like no-half

[dusk canopy]

Cascade is getting it's ass whooped by this model I'm using

The prompt following on this model is insane

It's using 9.2 GBS of vram 💀

[topaz parcel]

add it when i launch you mean. so ./webui.sh --no-half-vae

[dusk canopy]

I have a shit ton of Loras I trained into the mix too

It can do text logos etc

[warm junco]

Normaly you should add these args in the webui-user.sh

At the line COMMANDLINE_ARGS

Needs to be uncommentet

What's your GPU?

[topaz parcel]

I run A1111 on a MacBook Pro M2 Max - dunno what the GPU they put in these? it has 32gb of Graphics ram though - but no idea what the specific chip is?

[warm junco]

Ah okay, m2 needs other arguments

Idk which ones, but a community member made an all in one install script for MAC with the best settings already set

Its pinned in #🤝｜tech-support
As Mac guide

[topaz parcel]

cheers - will go see. I have been running A1111 on this machine for about 6 - 9 months, but I have never come across this issue before today. But I will check that out. Thanks

[dusk canopy]

smeone give me a prompt

im bored

[warm junco]

Okay, strange, but yea check out the script. Maybe it boosts your generation time even, if you didn't used any launch args before

[dusk canopy]

i wanna test prompt adherance

[stone latch]

An old-fashioned businessman with a monocle on his left eye, sitting on a bench in the park, holding a blue umbrella, large oak tree on his right

[dusk canopy]

check #🏞｜general-with-images

[cosmic tangle]

hey SD gang

I'm trying to generate a consistent cartoon character with SD

been pulling my hair out with this, most videos don't seem to differential between sd15 and sdxl

anyone have any idea where to start

[stone latch]

Could you be a little more specific? Are you saying you can't tell which base model is better for cartoon characters?

[cosmic tangle]

yea I'm trying to create the same cartoon character in different poses, doing different actions

I've tried controlnet, almost tried training a LoRa, tried Fooocus, A1111, was about to try other stuff

[cosmic tangle]

the idea is to generate a cartoon character in Ai, then create the same character doing different actions

[stone latch]

An SD 1.5 or SDXL model (whichever you pick) + IP-Adapter I would say

[cosmic tangle]

ya I tried IP adapter but I Think I'm having problems because I'm mixing SDXL and SD 1.5

[stone latch]

Are you using ComfyUI?

[cosmic tangle]

no, A1111

was thinking about trying ComfyUI

[stone latch]

I use A1111 too 🤔 Mixing SDXL and SD 1.5?

Do you generate the image in one and then try to use ControlNet on the other?

[cosmic tangle]

is that even a thing? I dunno

no, I think I just have wrong checkpoints or controlnet models

[stone latch]

https://www.nextdiffusion.ai/tutorials/how-to-use-ip-adapter-models-for-image-prompting-a1111

[cosmic tangle]

this tutorial uses the SD15 models, is that ok with my version of A1111 ?

[stone latch]

Oh, I didn't realize it didn't cover SDXL 🤔

[cosmic tangle]

ya I think that's a lot of the problem I'm having - lots of videos on the subject are still only sd15

[crude notch]

sd3 8b

[mortal turret]

Forbes put out an article saying Emad plans to resign..

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrickcai/2024/03/22/stability-ai-founder-emad-mostaque-plans-to-resign-as-ceo-sources-say/

[quasi lodge]

Anyone know where stabilities playground went?

[trail lion]

can you describe the playground?

[quasi lodge]

It was a page on 'platform.stability.ai' where you could test the API's. Can't seem to find it anymore

[trail lion]

wow...irresponsible journalism? or someone leaked something they shouldnt have?

[mortal turret]

could be both

not really sure what to make of it

[regal snow]

In case anyone missed it… the one time I mentioned it… I forked and greatly enhanced an extension that adds aspect ratio buttons below the sliders in A1111 / Forge. See description. https://github.com/altoiddealer/--sd-webui-ar-plusplus

[heavy lark]

he has resigned now. it's public knowledge.

[crude notch]

https://stability.ai/news/stabilityai-announcement

well then

[iron pendant]

🫡

[outer delta]

We still getting open-source SD3?

[pine fiber]

cosmic penguin rant time

[karmic cedar]

Hard to say.

[trail lion]

it begs the question...why? why are people fleeing this company

[karmic cedar]

It seems the carrot remains dangling.

Because of what it does.

[iron pendant]

if we got model source code I'd be surprised, weights, 0%

[pine fiber]

“I am proud two years after bringing on our first developer to have led Stability to hundreds of millions of downloads and the best models across modalities. I believe strongly in Stability AI’s mission and feel the company is in capable hands. It is now time to ensure AI remains open and decentralised,” said Emad Mostaque.

[heavy lark]

various reports saying they fled because of him. so effectively it's all for nothing becuase he left anyway, which it sounds like he should have done before all those other people did

[opal hedge]

Emad stepped down as CEO

Why couldn't they just release the damned model lol

[dawn girder]

Can I make stable diffusion images on here?

[trail lion]

no, but you can make them on your PC

[dawn girder]

How do I do it? Lolll

[heavy lark]

bots are down, but if you request in one of the other channels, we'd probably do it.

[trail lion]

with an install, and some fortitude and patience

[dawn girder]

What website & is it free?

[gaunt pulsar]

Are you serious?

[heavy lark]

are you looking for the quick and easy way, or the more complicated way?

[dawn girder]

Quick & easy probably haha

[pine path]

they are
https://stability.ai/news/stabilityai-announcement

[heavy lark]

https://pinokio.computer/

then use pinokio. lets you try all the various big AI apps with often one click installs.

[opal hedge]

Sadly yes

[pine path]

stability is really struggling with cash flow

[opal hedge]

If SD3 doesn't release I'll be really sadge

[outer delta]

Do you guys have any idea what the reason was?

[iron pendant]

these things are rarely for singular reasons

[gaunt pulsar]

I wonder what could have happened, I always thought of Emad as the face of stability

[outer delta]

Was it Emad's leadership? Or was the company trying to be closed-source now

[heavy lark]

He was so dedicated to AI being decentralized, he realized that all of his best people and himself need to work at other companies, to ultimately be as decentralized as possible.

[trail lion]

I just want to know how you go from any day now, to mass exodus of founding developers, and CEO steps down...like wha?

[trim magnet]

he is getting married to elon next month,big wedding planned

[outer delta]

hot

[gaunt pulsar]

Yeah let's hope SD3 will still release

[pine path]

investors pressuring him to step down. There have been several teams that have resigned as well

[opal hedge]

Hopefully SAI mentions whether SD3 is still scheduled for release... someday

My gut tells me probably not, especially since Lykon shared this: https://platform.stability.ai/docs/getting-started/stable-image

[gaunt pulsar]

They have to release it soon, otherwise it will be very outdated. The question imo is whether it will be closed or open

[trail lion]

stability was like an underdog I was lowkey rooting for, in the face of the googles and the metas out there

[pine path]

google and meta have been pretty decent with releasing ai stuff though

openai is the real stinker

[iron pendant]

i have no inside info

[outer delta]

Eh, its not over yet. Lets see what happens

[outer delta]

Np

[trail lion]

yah, exactly, but huge billion dollar companies, google & meta

[dawn girder]

Aren't there discord chats using bots to make Ai generated pictures? I remember being in one awhile back but can't find it now haha

[heavy lark]

yeah but they're down in preparation for the sd3 launch

[dawn girder]

Ah okay

[trail lion]

the launch, ah the launch...now we will see I guess

[unreal oriole]

F

[gaunt pulsar]

Hopefully it doesn't become like half life 3, the number 3 is always dangerous

[trail lion]

I think of like Bob Iger stepping down from Disney..it was like, the company is on a good trajectory, time to retire. No, there is some skeletons in the closet here for sure

[opal hedge]

What if Emad stepped down because the investors want SD3 to be closed source

Got my tin foil hat on and everything

[iron pendant]

not impossible

[gaunt pulsar]

I want to believe that SD3 will still launch

[heavy lark]

it will. it'll be fine.

[outer delta]

How in the World doesn't Stability hope to compete with the other AI generators if its not open source?

I'm not going to entertain that thought, mostly out of copium

[heavy lark]

probably through their image generation api.

but sdxl isn't good enough compared to other commercial companies. SD3 might be.

[opal hedge]

SD3 will only be ahead until MJ v7 comes out. SAI's golden goose was making SD3 powerful and ubiquitous for commercial use

And TBH, vanilla SD3 wasn't that much better imo

[heavy lark]

i've been impressed with what it could do in the more recent generations.

[trail lion]

but if they open source it, it's instantly more desirable than MJ

[heavy lark]

it's definitely evolved since it was first announced.

[opal hedge]

I'm in full agreement

SD3 is only good if the community gets to work on it

[outer delta]

Exactly

[opal hedge]

Hopefully they make some sort of announcement about the future of SD3 soon

[outer delta]

That is its only appeal

[trail lion]

dont want to be at the whim of some commercial entity for what prompt I can ask for

and btw, for what gets tracked

[crude notch]

if sd3 doesnt launch, i think wdxl team will train a sd3 model

[opal hedge]

nah

too expensive

I think it's several million dollars in compute to train sd3 8B

[trail lion]

and a few phds

[crude notch]

possibly

[gaunt pulsar]

Yeah, because Emad stepping down really makes us worry about it not being open source tbh

[crude notch]

we have some a100/h100s though might still take too long

[opal hedge]

I'm also worried about the company just going belly up without releasing SD3

[outer delta]

Its strange tho, why did other teams leave because of Emad? Maybe this is more about Emad then we know of

[opal hedge]

Guess we'll find out soon(ish)

[crude notch]

tbh if we get a rational person, stability will be fine

[trail lion]

we'll be told what we need to know I'm sure 🫤

[trail lion]

there's like literally infinite possibilities when the highest executive officer leaves unexpectedly

[gaunt pulsar]

I just don't get why this would happen now at Stability's peak success, now that SD3 has finally surpassed Dalle-3 and everyone else, if it still plans to make it open

[crude notch]

they arent doing good

bleeding money

iirc

[gaunt pulsar]

[opal hedge]

Allegedly "Emad resigned as CEO to pursue decentralized AI". In other words, they're not saying why Emad stepped down

Something pretty bad happened

[rich kestrel]

greed

AI belongs to the masses

not to megacorporations

good for him for standing for what's right

[trail lion]

if that's what happened, we dont know

[warm relic]

maybe it really didnt surpass everything else and its a bit exaggerated. we havent seen anything except what they wanted us to see so far really and even then its been mostly static shots. its a grim situation all around when testing for the model was supposed to be ongoing and RLHF was supposed to be happening

[outer delta]

Yeah, we dont know why. We can only say that AFTER Stability makes a statement about their models

[opal hedge]

Why couldn't this drama happen after SD3 released lol

We were so close

[pine path]

I don't know if MJ v7 will be the best when it releases. Latest MJ models have kinda regressed with so much emphasis on aesthetic

[rich kestrel]

yeah we were so close to be disappointed yet again

[vague pond]

he's been tweeting about some crypto thing, it's almost certainly related to that

[trim magnet]

how long til bait youtubers and twitter/reddit drama acc's to start makin shit up and spreading rumors

[rich kestrel]

shit always happens when crypto rises

coincidence? I think not

[pine path]

Emad did basically say that they have no plans to train another image model after SD3.

[opal hedge]

From https://twitter.com/rendernetwork last week:
We are thrilled to welcome @EMostaque Founder of @crystal river as an advisor to the @rendernetwork to collaborate on next generation AI models, IP rights systems, and open standards powered by decentralized GPU computing.

The Render Network connects artists looking to render next-gen 3D media with near unlimited GPUs in a decentralized global network. AI GPU's next

[fervent thunder]

if they dont release SD3 they'll be in some trouble. the reasearch paper is already out, there is no going back. either they be the first to release it or someone else will train a model and release it

[pine path]

Maybe they're getting acquired by a VC firm? Just a wild speculation

[opal hedge]

It takes months and millions of dollars to train something comparable to SD3

[fervent thunder]

if they dont open source it, the model will be DoA because the community will continue to focus on what they can train and finetune

[timid gate]

I'll be blunt, the only value from SD3 comes from releasing it so that people can customize it. If they don't do this, the model is 100% pointless since DALL-E and Midjourney exist

[opal hedge]

Customization and a lack of censorship

[fervent thunder]

they could start a donation campaign to raise money, people are willing to support as long as they keep the access open

[gaunt pulsar]

IF they decide to close SD3, I guess someone will have to become the next open source image king eventually, but probably they will be a lot smaller than stability

[fervent thunder]

without open access stability loses face just like openAI did and since its already a controversy it will be like a PR suicide

[iron pendant]

revenue or pr, choose one

[trail lion]

the only value to us users, agreed, to the company , nah

[iron pendant]

or alternately, put up $100m

[fervent thunder]

there is a way to get revenue without causing a PR and transhumanitarian crisis, literally just release the ecosystem and start monetizing compute, take donations for early access and other perks. theres plenty of ways to make the company more profitable

[opal hedge]

I hope you're right. Imo SAI was able to succeed because they were early to the AI rat race and managed to get venture capital before titans like OpenAI began to show promise. It might be harder for a real 'open ai' company to take off now that there are safe picks for investment

[iron pendant]

ngl, we're not going to see anything similar ever again

revenue has to lead, then open source, not the other way around

[true canopy]

hey, did emad say anything about those guys quitting stabilityai?

[iron pendant]

don't expect a big info dump on this, its largely unprofessional to air dirty laundry in public

[true canopy]

its a bit of an unusual story tho, it seems the people quit still have stabiliyai stuff in their social media and stuff

[iron pendant]

some of those folks are pretty offline though

they rarely touch socials

there's life outside social media ya know, they may have families, etc

[true canopy]

i see, i also dont touch it lol, thats pretty much why im asking

[iron pendant]

ex. robin tweets like twice a year, when he releases a paper, that's about it

[opal hedge]

Here's my prediction on what happened. Emad was being pressured into making SD closed source if we take https://platform.stability.ai/docs/getting-started/stable-image as evidence. He stepped down out of principle, now the current board members will try to take SD closed source and fail because SD has no market without open source development and established juggernauts like MJ and Dalle around.

[true canopy]

i dont think i can see emad responses and stuff on x

[trail lion]

this was cutting edge tech, a company on the verge of becoming the next google...I'm not saying this lightly, chatgpt has every chance to replace search, so a decsion to abandon this....it simply boggles the mind

[iron pendant]

if ya'll are expecting some giant public expose from those involved it ain't gunna happen

[true canopy]

i mean, if the article was outright a lie, i bet he would mention it, maybe

[low moon]

wtf is going on

Steven Seagal help us.

[opal hedge]

The world is ending. Possibly no high res booba generator

[iron pendant]

everyone and their brother speculating , that's what is going on

[trim magnet]

we just waiting for redditors here to post their conspiracy theories about what happened like when Sam Altman was fired and there was a bunch of loons saying he discovered a sentient AI and thats why he was fired

[trail lion]

true, but they have to say something, or there will be financial consequences

[iron pendant]

saying something will have consequences, shuting up is the professional way to handle it

🤦‍♂️

[trail lion]

what? like..." emad? emad who? dont know the guy

[gaunt pulsar]

I agree that this prediction looks very possible, but my says they just changed leadership to give us better open source models

[true canopy]

actually, i know see that its another article released

i didnt know that

i was talking about the robin stuff

[iron pendant]

clem @ hugging face just tweeted "should we acquire Stability and open source SD3?"

#🏞｜general-with-images message

https://twitter.com/ClementDelangue/status/1771395468959813922

[opal hedge]

There is hope

[iron pendant]

that would be amazing

[trail lion]

their top executive left, staying silent isnt a choice, sorry...nor is " oh he left to spend more time with his family"....no, there needs to be a clear path forward

[iron pendant]

yes it absolutely is lol

[buoyant moss]

I don't expect SD3 to be open source

Emad, if you are reading this, thank you for your contributions to open source!

[opal hedge]

Imo, I think the people at SAI don't even know what's going to happen going forward, so how can they tell us

[true canopy]

oh he actually resigned ....

[opal hedge]

the vibes I'm getting are total anarchy

[true canopy]

i though it was just media lol

[vale steeple]

man this "Emad is resigning" thing is crazy

[buoyant moss]

Even if some people in the community are unhappy, I will be forever grateful

[vale steeple]

people thought it is real

[gaunt pulsar]

What is even happening 🤯 this is 10x faster than even the OpenAI situation last year

[true canopy]

https://stability.ai/news/stabilityai-announcement

its not real?

[buoyant moss]

I assume it is

[low moon]

We should all calm down. Take deep breaths.

[opal hedge]

Copium or not caught up yet?

[vale steeple]

not caught up

right

[true canopy]

1 hour ago

[buoyant moss]

On reddit the highest upvoted post is saying thank you to emad, the second highest is shitting on SAI for censored models

Cmon guys, free is free

[vale steeple]

I mean I am a much moderate AI users than most r/StableDiffusion peeps were.

[buoyant moss]

Now with Emad resigned, we might not even have censored models

[vale steeple]

||I don't think having a paywall is necessary a bad thing.||

[opal hedge]

We're gonna have a cool new https://platform.stability.ai/docs/getting-started/stable-image !!

(ie useless junk)

[buoyant moss]

I'm paying

$20 a month to stability to support them

Who else, other than stability is going to open source image generative weights?

[trim magnet]

idk pixart?

[opal hedge]

Did you look at the link? From my understanding, it basically means they want to close-source SD3 and take money for generation. That means censorship and no cool nodes or UIs

[true canopy]

inb4 we get a full sd3 leak

[buoyant moss]

That's my point

[trail lion]

all the censored models became uncensored by the community, I care zero about that

[true canopy]

fingers crossed

[buoyant moss]

The community whines about free models

Now we might get nothing

[opal hedge]

I hope this happens so bad

[true canopy]

0.001% chance

[low moon]

Censored generators are useless garbage.

[iron pendant]

HF buying SAI seems like the best situation

[vague pond]

never underestimate how much people are willing to whine about anything not spoon fed to them exactly the way they want it

[vale steeple]

Isn't closing SD3 would caused a huge unrest at Stability AI itself.

[gaunt pulsar]

As long as I can have SD3 I'll be happy. Would be pretty bad if they don't release it after all the hype

[vale steeple]

at least around developers and investors

[opal hedge]

The problem is SD3 is worthless without the weights

[gaunt pulsar]

Yeah I mean SD3 local version

[opal hedge]

Right now Dalle and MJ have almost the same level of generation and in a month or two will far surpass it

[trail lion]

it's worthless now because its not even a thing, lol

it's a "soon we will release this wonder upon you"

[opal hedge]

They said 'probably april' so maybe there is still yet hope

[vague pond]

i mean, what's left to do with image models though? there's pretty much only "stack more layers", "tune it with more aesthetic slop", or "optimize the model"

[true canopy]

isent the chance of sd3 being open source really shaken now?

[trail lion]

so much

[opal hedge]

A lot

Idk if you've noticed, but none of those models are anywhere near perfect

[trail lion]

like has every prompt you've ever asked for been satisfied to your content?

maybe the issue is your imagination

[vale steeple]

I have my fair shares of doubt

even if those guy saying "SD3 IS GOING TO CLOSED SOURCED!!!"

[true canopy]

i mean, lets be real, he was prob forced out, that why so many others left as the same time

why would someone force out the "open source" positive guy?

[gaunt pulsar]

You do have a point. Most of SAI devs probably believe in open source, so if we think rationally they won't just close source it like that

[opal hedge]

We can only really guess, in truth no one here really knows what'll happen. I'm sure we'll get an announcement about SD3 soon

[true canopy]

to...make it..not so open

[vague pond]

I've been finetuning these models for about a year now, I'm pretty sure I have a decent idea of the lay of the land.

[trail lion]

unclear...interesting, but who knows

[buoyant moss]

Regardless, I think Emad derves our thanks for releasing any models

[crude notch]

more likely that it opensource than it not

[trail lion]

ok so you're the expert on all of wha is possible, got it

[crude notch]

they probably know more about diffusion models than you btw

[low moon]

Geez this is how mob lynching start, how about we calm down for a second here. XD

[vale steeple]

I am absolutely fine with censored models.

Which I think it could be a hottake here, especially those hardcore NSFW user

[vague pond]

Architecturally, their rectified flow setup seems to be able to produce more coherent images than we've seen, including what seems to be fairly reliable production of high frequency details. That's the main limit you'd want to worry about, because it's the only thing that requires a full retrain to fix.

[opal hedge]

Then why care about Stable diffusion at all?

[crimson beacon]

Emad no longer CEO

We never getting SD3

Womp womp

[vague pond]

Almost everything else can be solved with dataset changes, which puts it in the range of finetuning.

[gaunt pulsar]

Everyone will instantly calm down tomorrow when someone from SAI says SD3 will be open source

[opal hedge]

The ability to fine-tune and create tools built for the model is the main appeal of SD3, SDXL and SD1.5

[trail lion]

just realize how brazen it is to say something is at its limit, and not just this user, even stability is saying it.....it's a bit incredulous. it's at it's limit when the mass majoriy of people are getting what they ask for....if that's even achievable

[buoyant moss]

Yeah, I think there is some ways to go

[vague pond]

As an example of what this means -- you will never get SD1.5 to generate text reliably, or hands, because of its autoencoder, and given the jump in that capability from switching from diffusion to rectified flow I'd say it's possible the diffusion process itself was in the way of that.