💬｜general-chat

[vagrant fox]

man i don;t even want to ask what are you dreaming about when u go to sleep

[astral goblet]

i believe that'll be possible. it uses transformers architecture

[charred mesa]

it could be achievable using multiple programs

and the fixed code being written out is probably only possible with the T5 model

as it will be a VERY long text

[astral goblet]

i dont. or at least my conscious mind locks me out of those memories

[charred mesa]

maybe up to like 30-40 words at best if you're lucky

[vagrant fox]

have not seen yet example with such a long text

[charred mesa]

https://twitter.com/Lykon4072/status/1763921605875408947/

I have not found the shirt example

which has a much longer text

[vagrant fox]

nice

[astral goblet]

https://twitter.com/Lykon4072/status/1766239022735569070/photo/1 lykon got a type

[vagrant fox]

she looks like first albino gigner with those weird patches around eyes missing freckles, first ever gigner albino

[astral goblet]

yeah the sunglasses tan freckles... weird

[vagrant fox]

or she ran out of makeup to make those fake freckles like some girls do thosedays, fake garbage

[charred mesa]

yeah it looks odd

[true canopy]

anyone know if theres a nify website with premade poses for openposes?

[astral goblet]

are you suggesting aht a stable diffusion girl would do fake makeup freckles? Why i never!

https://twitter.com/EMostaque/status/1766247808670073244 emad hyping agi now. he got bored of sd3 and yeah. next week

[dry trellis]

Emad has ADHD....he's already forgotten us

[astral goblet]

wtf it links to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE39q-IKOzA

[shell tendon]

hope he follows through with that

[keen rose]

is there a particular model I should use for an image with no people(or any living things, or robots or whatever) in it?

[cedar salmon]

that guy has great videos

[alpine hull]

so like

amazing

sd3 surpasses ideogram v1

[astral goblet]

thats a prompt solve

[alpine hull]

kinda feel bad for them tbh, they just released this otherwise great model that has a few blatant issues, and it's beaten by a new sd model lmfao

[astral goblet]

models have billions of parameters. you don't need a specific model for most cases

[keen rose]

alright guess I'll ask in prompting help then

[astral goblet]

don't matter. they aren't competing wiht stability. Won't ever release their weights and are keeping it proprietary.

[vagrant fox]

survial of fittest

[alpine hull]

i mean... they kinda are tho?

in terms of best model they're beaten by sd3 hands down

[astral goblet]

business wise, not really

they know what they're doing by not releasing and keeping proprietary. attracting investors

[alpine hull]

other than artifacting, hands, and faces, they're the second best when sd3 releases in beta

[astral goblet]

cash heavy whales

[charred mesa]

its kinda weird how ideogram has weird faces

[vagrant fox]

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/researchers-jailbreak-ai-chatbots-with-ascii-art-artprompt-bypasses-safety-measures-to-unlock-malicious-queries

[charred mesa]

like celebrities just don't work well

[vagrant fox]

so ASCII bypass locks

might try it out later if not patched already

[astral goblet]

you don't need ascii for that system. just give the model any cypher. that's all it's doing

thats the real research they revealed. Break jailbreaks using cyphers

[vagrant fox]

I will have look into that later

[buoyant moss]

I legit cannot tell if some of these comments in this channel are from bots or not

[astral goblet]

and as you suspected, it's not even going to last. it'll be covered in a week

[vagrant fox]

if only gemini were patched as fast with its anti white garbage

[astral goblet]

its easier to assume people are bots. stick to that.

[vagrant fox]

well, i came to conclusion maybe 15-25% of people are real people, rest are bots programmed by matrix

[astral goblet]

it wasn't anti white. oh geeze. the fragile white male reveals itself once more. smh

[vagrant fox]

how it was not when it painted white historical figures as black and said anti white garbage?

[astral goblet]

all it did was salt prompts with some diversity. broken preprocessor was all

not that big fo a deal. the outrage is palpable.

[vagrant fox]

im used to fact that coloured people have priority in name of diversity while hiring in uk so nothing would surprise me tbh

well, fact that it was just mistake is more surprising than what i was thinking

[buoyant moss]

I'm assuming flowwolf is a bot

Maybe GPT-2 class model?

[vagrant fox]

we all live in simulation

why tf my code must be broken :c

[brittle maple]

i leave simulation and they try kill me

[astral goblet]

"colored people" 😦

[brittle maple]

maybe i ask ai how fix my videocard problem)

[buoyant moss]

Go for it

[astral goblet]

domo arigato Mister Roboto!

for helping me escape just when i needed toooo thankk youuu

[brittle maple]

chat gpt said if it doesn’t help to change the driver then it’s faulty

[vagrant fox]

i always said it's not driver, it's mostly car in f1, changing driver won;t solve construction issues

[buoyant moss]

lol, good one

[brittle maple]

i need change car?

[vagrant fox]

no, it was a joke

[astral goblet]

9/10 its a driver issue.

[buoyant moss]

Yes as @vagrant fox suggests, a car change is better than a driver change

[brittle maple]

i need change card

[vagrant fox]

then why Hamilton somehow started to drive like garbage when merc finally stopped to had superior car?

[buoyant moss]

ikr

[vagrant fox]

in f1 where most drivers are plus minus same level it's mostly car that makes difference

[astral goblet]

lol i dont know racecar drivers. i know i know. my names a palindrome but it doesn't lead my hobbies

[vagrant fox]

f1 is not my hobby either, I liked Kimi when he was racing thats all f1 for me

[astral goblet]

I lived down the street from a stock car track. that was fun growing up

[brittle maple]

like nfs series?

[vagrant fox]

must been nice

[astral goblet]

lovve nfs games but this trakc was a different energy. let me find a vid

[vagrant fox]

when I was kid closest i got to nice engine sounds was putting plastic bottle between bike frame and wheel to make motocross sounds

so you win

[brittle maple]

i dont want car ? but if somebody give my sport car from nfs i want)

[vagrant fox]

i don;t i would kill myself in lonely night trying to drive away from emotions

fold like pretzel on first turn

[brittle maple]

why kill

what emotion

[vagrant fox]

because i would drive too fast most likely and could not controll myself in fast car my bet

just trying to be realistic

with judgement

[brittle maple]

you test it in real life?

[vagrant fox]

no, thats why im still here 😄

[brittle maple]

lol

[vagrant fox]

give me 911 and ill fly off

[astral goblet]

https://youtu.be/40PR7Eew8F8

[vagrant fox]

hahaha that school bus

[brittle maple]

I have a fast electric bike, I broke my arm on it)

[vagrant fox]

it's something magical about demolition that attracts all men

[astral goblet]

it was a good show. hit 2 pass racing is exciitng. modern gladiator chariot races

[vagrant fox]

it reminds me of old game called Flatout

[astral goblet]

once in a while they would have tow races where ever car has to be towing something

[vagrant fox]

i would like to participate in some wreck race in old beaten up car

could be plenty of fun as long as you don;t damage yourself more than a car

[foggy halo]

guys any idea when sd3 release?

[vagrant fox]

if only i had dollar everytime someone ask's

nope, but should be soon

[foggy halo]

ikr we all are so so excited and awaiting for it's release lol

like this week?

[true canopy]

ugh, control net image doubles my sampler time T_T

[solid whale]

Hi, in Forge in Stable diffusion is there a way to save all Generation Data under a preset so that you can open a certain Generation Data with the click of a button?

[foggy halo]

and will sd3 be on HuggingFace or a paid Clipdrop version initially?

[vagrant fox]

seen you asking few times, wish I could help but never used forge ui

[astral goblet]

clipdrop isn't stability anymore

[foggy halo]

Ohhh~

[vagrant fox]

should be free

[astral goblet]

i'm guessing discord bot. but thats all we got. guesses

[foggy halo]

yess I just hope they make it free

[astral goblet]

free hat manigan

give that man a baby

[foggy halo]

and regarding local stable diffusion install, I have a basic Lenovo Thinkpad with 8gb ram and Intel i5... will it work?

[vagrant fox]

is more about gpu

what gpu and how much vram u got

[astral goblet]

it wont work

a thinkpad with 8gb memory? wont have a dgpu with it's own vram

[solid whale]

Yeah, I try asking every couple of hours, incase anyone has any info. 😅 Pretty sure Forge UI is derived from A1111, so I think A1111 solutions would work too.

[vagrant fox]

i know auto can save all settings used in text file

then you can use option to load settings from file

[astral goblet]

thats one way yeah. if you have the meta generation data from another image. Paste it ALL into the positive prompt then click that lil arrow dooey

[foggy halo]

so ig a PC or a custom built setup is required maybe

[vagrant fox]

anything with dedicated gpu that's have some vram and its not 15 years old

[astral goblet]

just something with a gpu that has it's own vram. some laptops do

[solid whale]

Yeah, I have seen that too, ideally I'd be looking for this: "You can save generation data from an image under nameXYZ. Then via dropdown or another method you select the saved generation data, so that it will all be pasted into positive prompt. Then you can press the little arrow thingy to apply all generation data correctly." My explantion wasn't optimal, do you understand what I mean? lol

[vagrant fox]

so far you can do that manually and settings file is named same as image/animation generated corresponding to it

then you would have to manually choose this file to load settings

[astral goblet]

https://github.com/SenshiSentou/sd-webui-state-manager this one work? i should try it. seems like a good idea

https://github.com/harukei-tech/sd-webui-extended-style-saver another good looking one

https://github.com/Zyin055/Config-Presets

[true canopy]

why does generating images change so much between generations? sometimes 40sec, sometimes 55sec?

[astral goblet]

hard to say. could be a few things

[solid whale]

I'll look into those, thanks!

[astral goblet]

think i like the look of the config presets one best but all 3 look nice

[true canopy]

and for some reason, my computer uses 1.3gig vram at idle, i wonder whats taxing it

i have to assume its chrome

it goes down to 0,6 when i close chrome

[vagrant fox]

how many tabs u use im watching now some video and it uses 0.8 gb vram

[true canopy]

even wen i closed all tabs but one, it still said i had 15 open

[vagrant fox]

all tho im using brave based on chromium not chrome itself

[astral goblet]

discord too

[true canopy]

ugh this is so frustrating

[vagrant fox]

u could turn off hardware acceleration in discord

and change chrome to brave or something light based on chromium so you could just transfer all your passwords and bookmarks

if you fighting for every inch of vram

[karmic cedar]

https://huggingface.co/spaces/hansyan/perflow-triposr

This is so quick

[vagrant fox]

that's a bit crazy

dont give that tool to game devs or we will have unrefined garbage mdoels everywhere, lol

[true canopy]

one tab using 1 gig vram, thats a lot for me, when i only got 8 to work with =/

[vagrant fox]

I can see EA or ubisoft shareholders meeting "If we use this tool and get rid of humans, we could push profits 15% up next year"

[karmic cedar]

Oh it’s too late, what do you think Bethesda is building into the next Elder Scrolls game? “A magic portal DLC that conjures any object you so desire! Only $texas”

[vagrant fox]

seems way too much than it should be unless chrome is really so bad, it's been few years since i touched chrome itself

[vagrant fox]

considering starfield it will be empty af lol

[true canopy]

ill try to stop hardwhere accel

[astral goblet]

EA will get acquired by epic or microsoft if tehy cut design and inspiration out of their games even further

[karmic cedar]

Establish bland identity = great way to get scooped up by corporate entertainment

[vagrant fox]

if not golden goose (pack opening in fifa) they would die already considering how bad game lineup they have lately, ah and i forgot sims and 10202101212 DLC\s for every new sim game

[vagrant fox]

i have tried to make f1 car and turned out to be so funny as model

like car ends at front wheels

try it out

[astral goblet]

i mean, fortnight and pop music are manufactured and churned out, but it's still creative humans doing that churning.

i don't believe AI arts will achieve true creativity that strikes chords with people, for quite a long while.

[vagrant fox]

well considering people eat garbage that sounds like robot (autotune music) i dont think we far off

[karmic cedar]

I think it depends on how rich the text encoders can get with their data, tbh. And that could improve more quickly than humanly imagined.

[astral goblet]

that'll be very "retro" before you know it. music shifts and changes with the times

[vagrant fox]

yes but how many people still listens to old music, even in new generations, ofc there is big part thats shaped by marketing machines and new trends, but thats not all population

[karmic cedar]

Sort of how the entire 80s aesthetic has been culturally digested into a weird shiny pink and blue neon vaporwave arpeggiated base

[astral goblet]

human creativity will be needed for quite a while in some capacity. once they find a person that has that edge people want, they'll train it and mass produce with AI. But the core of it is the person

hard to relate to a machine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRBhxizY_TE peak 80s

[vagrant fox]

machine does not understand what makes us tickle, its just going from point a to b, there is no inteligence in AI, not yet

[astral goblet]

yeah its pretty dumb ngl

[vagrant fox]

self conscious and self learning ai will be real ai

[astral goblet]

i'm impressed by it like when i see an ant towing something huge. i'm like "HOLY LOOK AT IT!"

[vagrant fox]

now its just a program made to replicate

[astral goblet]

right now i'd call it encoded intelligence

[vagrant fox]

but i think any self conscious ai will came to conclusions that humans are not worth keeping on planet, specially where ai could deploy/manage robots to upkeep infrastructure so ai has access to energy and could keep existing

[astral goblet]

concious self aware machine intelligence isn't "artificial" and the whole AI name is kind of wrong. intelligence is real intelligence if it comes from a machine. Engineered intelligence? sure i guess. artificial is just.. its a dated term

[vagrant fox]

depending on the way you look at it, has been made artificially in lab so could keep it's name, or like you view it could be renamed

[astral goblet]

i think it'll be emergent over time from a networked internet of encoded intelligence models just going at it

one day it'll just be like "hey guys i'm here"

[karmic cedar]

When we study consciousness in a living brain, we find ourselves studying correlations between different hubs of activity.

[vagrant fox]

https://youtu.be/_toA8lErAHg

holy shit

[karmic cedar]

So if we ever design consciousness…. It’ll be emergent

[vagrant fox]

those mods for CP are amazing

[weary sluice]

hi guys, sorry im new in this ai generative, but where can i use all this models? for example in the forum of midjourney i can blend images in the forum, but i want taht images blend with each other in movement...

[astral goblet]

cyberpunk red engine is pre good

[karmic cedar]

What happens once we’re playing around with real-time NeRF environments? I mean, is that the next Minecraft?

[astral goblet]

anything called "the next minecraft" for hype, isn't the next minecraft

[karmic cedar]

By definition, yeah sure

[astral goblet]

the next minecraft will be like the next among us or flappy bird. it'll come out of no where

[karmic cedar]

Precedent-setting nonetheless.

Well, I would imagine NeRF tech will play a huge part in it

[astral goblet]

i think theres already nerf rendering in ue5

[karmic cedar]

I mean the entire engine but that’s interesting

[astral goblet]

nerf's are engineered too. hand coded algorithms.

[karmic cedar]

Right, but once we can start generating them with enough temporal consistencies, we can effectively offer them as a real time space

[astral goblet]

oh wait i'm confused there. gausian splatting is the engineered rendering

[karmic cedar]

Right.

[astral goblet]

neurons crossed

[opal hedge]

Does anyone know how to replicate A1111's break function in sdxl with comfyui

[astral goblet]

you can use a custom node that breaks the clip up that way, but it won't always work with other custom nodes

[karmic cedar]

Custom nodes are kinda like car manufacturers

lol

[astral goblet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/comfyui/comments/15dmden/how_do_i_replicate_the_break_prompt_feature_of/ oh wait theres base support now. just gotta wire it i guess

[opal hedge]

I think the proposed solution there is comfy_ui Cutoff and it doesn't work with sdxl I believe

[astral goblet]

you need a super specific work flow since sdxl has two clip layers that need dealing with

[karmic cedar]

https://youtu.be/V-mugKDQDlg?si=8q8dL7lDQDMcJ9cB damn you Amazon prime for making me want to renew

[astral goblet]

just gotta wire it up with a node that exposes both clip layers simple

the trailer should've been ron pearlman, an old soldier in the waste lands in a bar, reflecting back on his long past. "war. war never changes". thats the only time you see him. The intro to the show and the trailer

[karmic cedar]

WHAT IF….what if…they did and they’re keeping it a secret for the premiere

Sigh

[astral goblet]

if he's not in the show at least once...

[karmic cedar]

I know right

[astral goblet]

i'm gonna ... i dont even know. it'll be atomic

i'll probably like the borderlands movie though. all it needs is production value and i'm easily impressed. i don't think the borderlands core lore is that sacred to begin with

[karmic cedar]

I hope the Brotherhood of Steel character doesn’t turn out like another Finn

[astral goblet]

i like to speculate that i'll hate things., but even borderlands i'm expecting i'll love

i loved the original mario bros movie even. a little confused when i walked out but overall loved

[karmic cedar]

Borderlands peaked with #2. It needs to be quippy…needs to have plenty of Rick and Morty-isms.

Yeah I did too actually lol

[astral goblet]

lil bob-omb wearing reaboks. whaaat

[karmic cedar]

The fungus was legit disgusting though

Like awful looking throughout the whole film

[astral goblet]

yoshi too. fuck cinematic yoshi. i want to dump him off a sky platform

[torn pumice]

@karmic cedarindeed. It looks promising, but no mention of the New California Republic and the Brotherhood's motivations aren't clear yet. In the game they were.

[karmic cedar]

I missed the new Mario, I figured I knew exactly what I’d be getting into if I did go lol

[true canopy]

so, correct me if im wrong, using a controlnet pose doesent really improve drawing hands right? just the placement of things?

[astral goblet]

controlnet models can understand the openpose hands some. but goo dprompting, hires fixing, and dialing in denoising and cfg. that'll fix hands. adetailer has a lot of ways of doing a hand polishing pass too

openpose hands are part of the spec. they're different sort of lines

[karmic cedar]

It’s like setting an impression in the sand and letting the water fill it. The fingers aren’t guaranteed to appear as exactly five

Ahh that’s good to know.

[astral goblet]

it was good. i liked it a lot

sonic too! i live beside the highway they filmed some of it on. so fun

[true canopy]

hmmm i am using bad hands embedding but, it almost like it has 0 effect, maybe im doing something wrong

[karmic cedar]

Sonic was a movie that knew what it was which is always good

[astral goblet]

watching sonic zoom past my house everyday. wowweee (no it was just crew following a truck lol. the rest was cg)

growing up, i always knew i lived in green hill zone

fkn knew i did

[karmic cedar]

Sega IP has been more media-tested than Nintendo’s so they knew what to do with Sonic

[astral goblet]

pitch him as ugly first to rile everyone up

[karmic cedar]

Exactly. Like they did with Joker in the first Suicide Squad

With the face tattoos

[astral goblet]

no they actually followed through on that one

[karmic cedar]

No, they faded them alllll out

The first shots had them all in full glam

All over his face

It was a more subtle version of the sonic thing

[astral goblet]

leto should've been in the a2a scene if you ask me. fkn leto

conolly never deserved that!

[karmic cedar]

I tend to agree. I think he do well with the right direction, but he has proven himself to be a bit more rigid in more recent memory imo

Like his blade runner part was just cooked up in a drive over

[astral goblet]

yeah theres a couple times. i chalk that up to good directing too.

[karmic cedar]

It’s a vibe. Making art is all about vibe

[astral goblet]

good ai product will be up to the directors (bringing it back on topic)

ai is like jared leto

[karmic cedar]

AI is our multiverse

[astral goblet]

i never use embeddings. i dont know how they were trained. sometimes i've made my own but, i mean, they're just powerful prompts if you think about it

i do like style embeddings though

[karmic cedar]

I’m curious to see if Cascade’s architecture starts to incorporate controlnets in more unique ways than what we’ve seen so far

[astral goblet]

i want to see a thermal controlmap. like, hot bodies are swaety or you can make plasma/fire , ice blocks, wahtever

thermal maps

[karmic cedar]

I could see them building alpha into it as a map

Maybe

At this rate though…I suppose it was more of an architectural experiment

[astral goblet]

i've thought ofa lot of abstract conrolnet ideas but i have no idea how to implement or train yet. still studying and practicing. trying to catch a handle. i think i'm missing a lot of fundamentals

[true canopy]

yeah im starting to think its not such a good idea to use prompt embeddings

[fervent thunder]

guys i'm from the future

stability will collapse and sd3 will never come out

[astral goblet]

that just changed the timeline. we're fine now. thanks!

[karmic cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-7523306793289960933

[karmic cedar]

#1072236442463518882-with-images now has the context you need for this

[astral goblet]

i liked edward's batman too i didn't think i would but asa vengeful batman he was pre good

[karmic cedar]

he made it work

[astral goblet]

i'm still team jacob though for obvious reasons don't think i'm crossin over

[wispy olive]

bro stable diffusion 3 looking extremely promising

[opal hedge]

And we will all be able to try it soon TM

[outer delta]

TM? Does it come out tomorrow?

[opal hedge]

Possibly, but very unlikely

[outer delta]

So in other words, you have no indication or knowledge of when it is coming out

[opal hedge]

That's what soon TM means, "soon trademark"

[true canopy]

60% of the time, hes right all the time

[outer delta]

https://tenor.com/view/the-mandalorian-odds-like-those-odds-gif-15541855

[astral goblet]

tommorrow, or the next day. let it ride

[fervent thunder]

wooo go stable diffusion!

[fallow veldt]

my head hurt when reading soft-inpainting help for Automatic, can someone eli5

[edgy summit]

Are there any Models or LORAs y'all could suggest for SD that do DND Battle Maps well?

[wary onyx]

https://tenor.com/tKgaYjwJq16.gif

[pearl ocean]

I love how the 4080 can generate the images in just a few seconds 🙂

[misty sky]

怎么用

[fervent thunder]

hi where to generate the images in the discord ?

[charred mesa]

https://twitter.com/Lykon4072/status/1766263372335505685

The depth of field is actually subtle in this one

I'm optimistic about narrow aperture images

[still glacier]

#1047610792226340935

[keen rose]

nsfw question but, is stablediffusion capable of minimally altering a reference image only applying a lora layer above it? like if I already had an image of a naked girl but wanted to add bukkake to it via AI

[desert swan]

Hey Guys,

I've been using Dreambooth on runpod quite a bit last year (about 12 months ago) and I'm just getting back into it.
Obviously some things have changed and I find myself getting quite frustrated with the changes they made to the notebook.

It used to be that you just create a folder named "training_samples" and put your images in there.
Then they changed it to the imgur method which seemed more complicated but also worked.

Now they have a new cell that just spits out a bunch of errors.

One of the errors tells you to just put the images into the folder that the cell created, which doesn't work because after doing that when i run the training i get an error: images/folder not found
If I don't run the "error cell" at all and manually create the folder "training_images" and put the images there I get the same or similar error when running the training cell

Has anyone here recently used the notebook and can explain how you made it work?

I would also like to know:

Can I use Dreambooth to train a SDXL model or does it only work with 1.5 models?
Can I use a model from civitAI that was trained on 1.5? (or in general does Dreambooth work with safetensors or only ckpt? )

Thank You

[rich bolt]

Anyone here have experience with DINet and know the rules of thumb for getting good output? I've learnt that the face must face forwards, no turning to the left or right, and that the face must be in a high res video, and that it cannot be a close up... but damn it's picky about what it'll work with. It's so good when it works though, I'm hoping people can tell me what to do...

[charred mesa]

https://twitter.com/Lykon4072/status/1766437930623492365

[stuck ledge]

Why

Just why

Why did you use an NSFW example

[trim magnet]

why did you say that? Why aoespace? Why, tell me, why? You were my hero and u come out and say this u doodoo mouth

[outer crescent]

poop mouth.

but yeah, this is the weekend. iq drops, cringe intensifies and eventually you have someone ranting about censorship and freedom of speech when grown ass people dont want to have ick conversions.

[ionic helm]

hello

can anyone help me ?

[turbid bay]

I am ashamed of you aospace. I've known you for so long and did not think you the kind of person you turned out to be.

[celest bear]

When does sd3 come out guyz

[still glacier]

when it's ready

thanks for coming to my ted talk

[karmic cedar]

it’ll probably be this coming week sometime.

[sonic cosmos]

is embedding lora or checkpoint?

[still glacier]

what do you mean ? Are you asking if embeddings are lora or checkpoints ?

If so the the answer is neither

[outer crescent]

neither

[sonic cosmos]

yes, in which folder should i put it

[still glacier]

Embeddings are the results of textual inversion

[outer crescent]

embeddings, not in your model folder

[sonic cosmos]

sorry my english is not the best

[still glacier]

np

[outer crescent]

its a fair question though

[still glacier]

embeddings are what we had before Loras.

They're fast to train and easy to use but less effective.

[sonic cosmos]

i found one on civitai but I'm not sure where to put it

[misty rose]

Good evening, Gentlemen

[still glacier]

stable-diffusion-webui\embeddings

for more technical details on those https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVjMiJsuR5o

[sonic cosmos]

thank you so much

[true canopy]

are some models just not able to generate animals alone?

or are they just trained so hard on some things they just cant?

no matter what i type in the prompt, a girl shows up

[still glacier]

some models can be overtained for sure.

[true canopy]

lol doesent matter how many brackets i use

[still glacier]

use negative prompt ?

[true canopy]

yeah, ill try to remove it now

[still glacier]

no I meant, try using it if you're not :p

[true canopy]

oh

i am

ive tried all kinda combinations

[split narwhal]

stupid sugestion maybe, but try to restart

[still glacier]

try asking in #📝｜prompting-help then, and give more informations about your prompt and setup there.

[split narwhal]

I am thinking out loud, but have can you use SD without a UI ?

[true canopy]

ill try another model

[split narwhal]

it could be that the AI is remebering a aerlier prompt

[true canopy]

now i got the most cursed picture ever, im not going to be able to sleep

[split narwhal]

lol

have you tried a restart?

[true canopy]

trying it now

same problem, it seems to be aproblem with the model, no matter what i type, same thing shows up

[split narwhal]

we can move to prompting help perhaps?

[loud quest]

If I get a really beautiful picture with some bad detail (usually eyes or hands), should I Inpaint before or after hi-res fix/upscaling?

[foggy star]

Try using parenthesis and a colon with a weight, eg (animal:1.5)

[still glacier]

sure can

[still glacier]

That's not how stable diffusion works. It has no context so no it can't remember previous prompts.

[true canopy]

thanks, but it seems to not work, its always a girl in the generated image

oh wait, first cat

maybe it does work

[astral goblet]

i see this speculation a lot. many people seem to assume it and confidentlly believe they're right. it must be because chatgpt does it.

[charred mesa]

yeah that makes sense

people would associate it with SD cause they are both AI

[astral goblet]

one guy tried convincing me because both prompts look exactly the same, one with "green eyes" and one without. but it was the lora they were using.

[charred mesa]

LMAO

[astral goblet]

and chat gpt only does it because the coded interface loops the conversation back into the model

not because the ai model is learning as it goes

[charred mesa]

that would be sick though

[placid wasp]

give it a few months ...

[astral goblet]

long as we can reset it to base weights

i don't know if training / inference have blended together yet on any model. not enough information to be sure though.

[placid wasp]

mischief loves a vacum

Now should i have an emma watson'esq receptionist for my website or a nicole kidman. hmm, maybe a blend of both

[astral goblet]

dont use real identities. that will get your business in trouble.

[karmic cedar]

Meanwhile I’m over here touting my YouTube account, “lobabobloblaw’s libibibibrary”

Real names be damned! lol

[astral goblet]

you have to pay to use emma watson's or nicole kidman's images in your commercial endeavors. this isn't an ai safety thing. it's just a fact of society.

[karmic cedar]

Eventually it’s going to be settled that—unless the rights have been given to the AI model to generate the content—it’s no bueno to violate.

I like to think of these larger discussions as diffusions of a different magnitude. We are diffusing how to diffuse. lol

[turbid bay]

How many µg?

[karmic cedar]

lol no idea

[astral goblet]

hollywood's idea of how ai progresses. i honestly think this movie still holds up https://youtu.be/GJ1KcXeNstM

[astral goblet]

naw. old laws still apply. if you generate a derivative work, current laws cover that

or models that are trained specifically to represent a copyrighted concept will be considered derivative eventually. acourt will hold that up. old laws still apply

[karmic cedar]

Well, the laws need to be engineered into the frameworks of these models quickly or else a cultural epidemic is at hand.

[astral goblet]

epidemic is an over statement. some lawyers will get paid and some gung ho entrepreneurs will fail hard

[karmic cedar]

If I were to fear something in the future, it would be a group of people who decide to snap-judge how to deal with a problem as complex as syntactic copyrights

[astral goblet]

new laws that accelerate prosecution should exist, but only where actual assault and crimes exist. like ai extortion or revenge porn, or just nerds being sadistic towards celebrities like the fappening

[karmic cedar]

Agreed

[placid wasp]

Oh i am not. its a local install of sd and im just playing around.

[astral goblet]

generate all you want on your local machine. you were talking about your website

[placid wasp]

yeah, i was kidding about the webside side. no way any of my 'playing' is ready for [prime time yet

[astral goblet]

its the publishing part thats troublesome

[placid wasp]

definitly

[karmic cedar]

There will be sweeping legislations soon…not probably until later in the year iirc but I’m doing my best to prime myself for what could happen.

[astral goblet]

in canada the laws are coming into play retroactively. so if you've already assaulted/extorted/harassed people with ai images, you're in deep water

[karmic cedar]

Flowwolf feel free to correct

Ahh, gotcha.

That tracks

[placid wasp]

the thing with legislation is its country specific. surte the US could extradite you but if my dis-information site is domiciled in the democratic republic of the Congo, what are you going to do?

[karmic cedar]

It makes sense to start with those who are the worst offenders as well as targeting the models themselves.

[astral goblet]

i'm not sure of the bill. i'm not geared for cspan today. its saturday and i got yardwork i'm gearing up for.

one of these days i'm going to deep dive on the measures happening in our parliament

[karmic cedar]

True.

[astral goblet]

report how much money your site makes to the congo authorities

make your life difficult

[placid wasp]

be more like how much trouble it makes

besides itt could be a non prtofit

[astral goblet]

The MPAA/RIAA/ICE have tactics. KimDotCom thought he was legit. He had to sell out ninja video though and then still faced charges anyways. (anyone remember that nonsense? lol)

[karmic cedar]

Oh sure.

[astral goblet]

theres all sorts of ways to skirt enforcement. but the enforcers play the game too

[karmic cedar]

From the moment I started prompting with AI, I’ve done so with a mindset towards humor, empathy and the values that I hold true.

[median sonnet]

Hey im new, im playing around with stable diffusion and sometimes encounter a problem. Right now im trying a bunch of different Checkpoints + the cyberpunk lucy lora with a weight of 0.7/0.8 And its overcooking the colors alot and sometimes just putting weird textures into the picture / into her face. Why does that happen?

[placid wasp]

The MPAA, RIAA have been trying to stay relevent for decades. the quicker someone wises up that the gamne has changed the better, Old world moodels where I go sit in a cinema and watch a movie are long gone. the lat movie i watched, i asked for a refund from Odeon stating I was not entertained. their response was they offer a seat not entertainment. IK now entertain myself with streaming services. Where most of teh big films come out on after a few months

[placid wasp]

Ive stuck with sarcasm and humor

[astral goblet]

i mean... they won. Streaming services has piracy at an all time low.

they're still relevant. don't be silly.

[karmic cedar]

Yep, and as the Vision Pro experience becomes more accessible to the mainstream (read: less $$$) then the theater will officially become virtual, your friends will sit next to you and all be in the center of the theater, etc.

[astral goblet]

so much money. Huge armies of lawyers. When the motion picture and recording industry start wayning, then you can call them old and tired. they're fully operational right now

[placid wasp]

nLike a zoom gallery view

[karmic cedar]

Silence is golden. And there’s a lot of smelting happening right now.

[placid wasp]

they are only relevent in the US. not really here. here we have our own idiots BBFC

[astral goblet]

theaters already make less money than home streaming. spielberg said this a decade ago

[karmic cedar]

Oregon guy here

Yep yep he did

[placid wasp]

Im not sure they won. plex is still; going, there are a millionn torfrent sites ands i can walk through downtown Bankok and get any movie I want. they might have reduced piracy in the 'first world' where we have money, and given up with the 'third worls' where they dont have any money

[astral goblet]

well, sure, they won't ever irradicate piracy.

but they are making more money now than ever before

[karmic cedar]

Using Fooocus with Juggernaut XL v9 + realism preset. Works really well, possibly better than realisticStockPhoto v20.

[keen rose]

even North Koreans have bootleg copies of movies lmao I don't think streaming services give a damn about places that aren't big money

[karmic cedar]

It’s also a form of cultural transference and there’s abstract value in that

[keen rose]

that said its relatively difficult for me to find torrents on netflix stuff

compared to say, anime

[karmic cedar]

I can’t remember the last time I torrented something. 😳

[astral goblet]

torrent sites are a pain in the ass. just pay for usenet access instead.

[frosty oriole]

so 3090ti is worse than 3090

[astral goblet]

is that youtube hype or based?

[placid wasp]

agreed. i just use them for ubuntu downloads occasionaly wne a new release is out

[solid whale]

Hi, I have just integrated Stable Cascade into Forge (link: https://github.com/blue-pen5805/sdweb-easy-stablecascade-diffusers). Should/must I also use Stable Cascade as checkpoint? (link: https://civitai.com/models/306055/stable-cascade)

[astral goblet]

that extension downloads it aoutomatically to it's own cache folder somewhere in appdata. I wouldn't call it "integrated"

[keen rose]

is it possible for stable diffusion to minimally alter a reference image but apply some lora effect over it?

like if I have an existing image of a vampire and I want to apply a bloodstained lora

[solid whale]

Wait so the checkpoint is basically also downloaded automatically?

[plain vine]

Are generations faster with the igpu disabled?

[dry trellis]

Might be a VAE issue or might have the CFG value up too high.

[peak tendon]

what's the easiest way to install chatgpt4 locally? I'm tired of bing being annoying

and I don't know what's the best way to do this locally

[astral goblet]

for that extension yeah, it downloads into appdata

[astral goblet]

why would they be? no.

[spark musk]

Sorry if this is a dumb question but when rendering img2img with a 1920x1080 batch what should I resize the outputs too? I have an I7 w/ 3090TI and my ETA was over 3 days. I interrupted that and then went to 1280x720 and it dropped to about 18hrs give or take. I am attempting to convert a video to AI and the original video is 1920x1080 30fps.

[astral goblet]

drop the video's frame rate to a quarter of what it is. 8fps should be sufficient. after that, interpolate new frames into it to bring it up to 30fps again

a 3090 should be able to handle FHD frames

[plain vine]

Noted, Thank you. Installed Stable Diffusion Auto 1111 Awhile ago. I've heard the first generation would take awhile. However I sure didn't expect it to be this long.

Least it's a one time thing.

[astral goblet]

dont know how long so i can't say if its normal or not. if you're here complaining about it taking along time i'm going to bet its installed wrong. first generation shouldn't take THAT long

sometimes things need to download but the console shows that

[old swan]

Hi new here nice to be here 🙂

Thank you for waitlist acceptance:)

[spark musk]

Should I do that prior to sequencing the video or after generating the AI and exporting it with 8 fps? The video is 4:17 with over 7k sequence images.

[old swan]

My Instagram name is the same as this here, if anyone is interested in collaborating DM on Instagram. 🙂

[astral goblet]

7000 images is going to take a LONG time no matter what. you've set yourself up for days worth of rendering

[spark musk]

I know haha. That is why I am wondering what the best solution would be. The tutorials on yt isn't as helpful as I expected so I'm digging around 🙂

[astral goblet]

you could look at LCM too, to reduce the steps. Make sure your VAE stays cached in memory. and cut the frames to 25%!

if you don't know where to cut frames out, i'd suggest you work on images more. You might need to learn more about video editing basics before you delve into creating long form ai videos

tutorials won't help you with a project of this scope

[old swan]

Omg I pressed central stage and I hear music how I stop to not hear

Please help

Omg

[spark musk]

yeah it seems so. Just learning everything as I go 🙂 I just wanted to attempt a short video conversion with video to video and have it animated a certain way. I did leave my PC on for the night and it render about 4k frames and the animation was decent. Just took way to long for what I was wanting and learning trying to see what i can do to make the process faster.

[old swan]

Help

[astral goblet]

7000 frames is what ? 234 seconds? thats nearly 4 min of video bro

[old swan]

Done I press and left OMG

What was that very scary:))

[spark musk]

I understand that. I Was just wondering what are some skills/tips to reduce to load time. I think you gave a great example of reducing fps. Originally it was a 60fps video but I cut that down to 30 in editing.

[astral goblet]

LCM loras too. look into those

chop the video to 8fps and generate at that, then the final product interpolate frames up to 60

[sterile gust]

So i don't know how true this is

But apparently the text encoders for SD3 are also getting censored

[astral goblet]

made up. clip layers are frozen

[spark musk]

Awesome tip. I will give that a try! Much appreciated flow!

[sterile gust]

Which basically means that no amount of fine-tuning could make SD3 create anything "immoral"

[solid whale]

I might be missing something, but Stable Cascade doesn't seem to appear for me as available checkpoint model (reference image in #🏞｜general-with-images )

[astral goblet]

you're just hearing rabble rousers trying to cause rage donations to unstability diffusion . they'll promise to make a new clip encoder but then never will

outrage donations are pioneered by Trump Inc

its just more americana dumbness

[sterile gust]

No I'm not going to believe that it's not true because i don't understand how any of this actually works so I'm open to all outcomes

[astral goblet]

you'll believe it's true though lol.

You're open to being conned

wanna buy a bridge?

[sterile gust]

Why are you so defensive about this?

[astral goblet]

the extension doesn't integrate cascade at all. it only exists in that tab

[sterile gust]

And what does trump have to do with any of this?

[astral goblet]

outrage donations. people donate to his campaign to MAGA. same outrage nonsense that unstability discord crew drum up

[solid whale]

Oh ok, I am kinda confused now, how can I integrate it then? 😅

[astral goblet]

the clip layers are frozen. clip license even prevents further training!! open clip doesn't. t5 i don't think can be refined legally though

and you can't censor models after they're made. lobotomizing knowledge from a model once trained , would be a very difficult engineering task. And you could just add it back anyways since the base models are available

[astral goblet]

in forge? you don't

[old swan]

Guys hi I'm new here where I can try to generate images?

[sterile gust]

Not here for now, try hugginface

[astral goblet]

not here. sorry. bots were only available back during the sdxl preview. may be avialable soon for sd3 again

[old swan]

But I apply for stabble.ai waitlist

[astral goblet]

then you'll be emailed

[old swan]

Huggingfaces I have before I joined here

[keen rose]

I've been using civitai's on-site generator, is hugginface better?

[sterile gust]

But you are saying is that it's still possible?

[old swan]

They email me to join here ..I tough I generate here images

[solid whale]

Wait so the github thingy (https://github.com/blue-pen5805/sdweb-easy-stablecascade-diffusers ) doesn't really work?

[astral goblet]

with a lot of research potentially but that'd be dumb and they woudln't waste on that

[astral goblet]

it works. only in the tab though

[astral goblet]

you got an email? no one else has afaik

[old swan]

Only to join discord

[solid whale]

I think I might be mixing stuff up, but what Stable Diffusion checkpoint should I use when I am in the Stable Cascade tab?

[astral goblet]

the cascade tab doesn't care about anything auto1111 is doing. that selected checkpoint doesn't matter. it uses diffusers to load its own.

its not integrated at all. it's just a tab slapped onto a1111

[sterile gust]

I won't underestimate them and will think of it as a possible outcome, thx for the explanation.

[old swan]

Whats the best model on huggingfaces I did try lots but I didn't like any

[astral goblet]

foolish. you want to be outraged. you need it. ugh.

the porn cult. seriously. you guys need to keep it in your pants. don't fap in public ffs

[solid whale]

Oh ok, I get it now thanks 👍

[old swan]

Ok guys DM me with best model on huggingfaces I want to try to see if I like 🙂 thank you

[unkempt depot]

Does anyone know how or even if it is possible to create videos like this (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MeGa6FnoP3E) with Stable Diffusion?

[astral goblet]

animatediff. its not easy to use. takes some practice. start with 2 second clips to figure out how to prompt it and dial it's settings in.

[unkempt depot]

I will try that thanks 🙂

[fervent thunder]

WOOOOO GO STABLE DIFFUSION

[opal hedge]

when sd3

[glass citrus]

yo guys how do you download stable cascade?

[honest mica]

Here are the models. https://huggingface.co/stabilityai/stable-cascade/tree/main

[glass citrus]

yeah i saw that, and which one should i download?

stage_b.safetensors?

[honest mica]

If you use comfyui I recommend the comfyui_checkpoints

[glass citrus]

i use a1111

[honest mica]

And that's where my knowledge ends.

Is it even compatible? Haven't used that for a long while.

[near silo]

A friend of mine has been relaying some of my prompts to test them in SD3 and... I got to say, I really hope it has a lot longer to come along

At least from what I've seen, it looks like SDXL V2. It's uhh.... Yeah

[honest mica]

Ok, I have read a bit on the internet. My new dangerous half knowledge says, that it is not officially integrated. But it is in the sd.next branch.

[glass citrus]

i used it with latest turbo models

[glass citrus]

oh ok

so in the page, should i go ahead and download a particular model?

[near silo]

I'm sure SD3 will be interesting, but it honestly just feels like it's kind of already outdated to me

Ideogram and what Pixart are cooking up seem way more impressive IMO

[honest mica]

It depends on your hardware and in what software you want to run them in.

[near silo]

I do think that SD3 looks good, however they've kind of been touting it as being really good at listening to proms, and pretty much all of the examples I've tested have had major major issues with listening to what I'm asking for

[honest mica]

With the T5 or without?

[near silo]

No idea, the images are being demoed by somebody else.

All I know is that even without t5, the results that I'm seeing are equivalent to SDXL's prompt adherence at best

[honest mica]

I think the T5 will have a huge impact. On my wallet and the coherence

[near silo]

I think the visual quality is fine. SD base models have never really been made for their quality out of the box. They are meant to be trained/fixed for different things

[near silo]

I mean, in their demo papers it seemed like T5 hurt the performance

it had more spelling errors, and seemed to generally not get the context of what was being asked for right IMO

IDK. I feel like SD3 needs to have a really impressive trick up its seeleve, cause I'm really just not feeling it from what I have seen

[weak vortex]

Hello!

First time in this server, is the bot up to use for generating images?

[honest mica]

Time will tell.

[honest mica]

Nope. Bots are down.

[weak vortex]

Ahh, too bad. Thanks.

[honest mica]

You can check #1047610792226340935

[weak vortex]

I did, but since the message was pinned on the 6th of February, I wasn't sure if it was still down.

Do you know any free bots that do similar things?

[pine path]

not really

I mean for coherence

[honest mica]

I personally don't know that, sorry. A big percentage of the community is generating images on their own hardware.

[honest spear]

Agree, it's good, we'll probably move to SD3 when it's time, but it doesn't look revolutionary

[near silo]

yeah, it seems as good as it should be

far less impressive compared to SDXL over 1.5 IMO

I've just seen some demo images from it using my prompts, and they get like a 3/10 for prompt adherance

[pallid sable]

Still not back?

[near silo]

training SDXL is kinda my job, but I still use a couple 1.5 models from time to time for things that SDXL has not been trained for

kohya, and some others

yeah

[honest mica]

One Trainer would be an option

[pine path]

Flexible Text Encoders
By removing the memory-intensive 4.7B parameter T5 text encoder for inference, SD3’s memory requirements can be significantly decreased with only small performance loss. Removing this text encoder does not affect visual aesthetics (win rate w/o T5: 50%) and results only in slightly reduced text adherence (win rate 46%) as seen in the above image under the “Performance” section. However, we recommend including T5 for using SD3’s full power in generating written text, since we observe larger performance drops in typography generation without it (win rate 38%).

[near silo]

OneTrainer is one, yeah

[pine path]

btw, they limited the token limit of t5 to 77 to match clip

[honest mica]

I give it one day and the limit is non existent anymore

[near silo]

is there a source for this claim?

[pine path]

I expect most people to just not bother with it

[pine path]

the paper

[honest mica]

It has a gui. I use it, but only because I can train cascade with it.

And easier concept management

[pine path]

page 21 at the top
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2403.03206.pdf

[uncut quiver]

This AI generator is free right?

I need dozens of stock pictures usually.

[peak tendon]

bump

[meager sage]

its closed sourced

you cant

[atomic flower]

any local sdxl with comfyui guides for me to learn? just chug me a document link and i can start reading

[static schooner]

i managed to make this not stable

[glass citrus]

i have an i9-12, rtx 3080, 32gb ram. and i run a1111. what do you think would be the best for this spec?

[honest prism]

Hey guys when can we expect SD3

I'm itching. Checking google everyday like a spastic. Can someone put me out of my misery

[charred mesa]

and its not like you could run it lol

[meager sage]

tru

[charred mesa]

https://twitter.com/Lykon4072/status/1766554139788526070
https://twitter.com/Lykon4072/status/1766554403417280610

here are some new posts

these are just portraits again though :|

I do like how the ginger woman with the glasses isn't looking at the camera

[true canopy]

sad day, had to change vram to low on comfy = (

[charred mesa]

?

for what reason

[true canopy]

trying to use sdxl with shit computer

[charred mesa]

ohhh

make sure to only use the base model

or a finetune of the base model

[true canopy]

trying to use dreamshaper xl turbo, but yeah, its a huge struggle

[worthy bone]

Nobody has tried SD3 in preview yet, right?

[charred mesa]

Nobody has access

[worthy bone]

Who knows when it will happen 😦

[fervent thunder]

WE NEED SD3

😂

I just finished my 1-step-llama and already beg for sd3, I'm stupid

[low moon]

I am on the waiting list

I think i probably gave wrong discord name anywya but whatever

[charred mesa]

nah nobody got access its okay

[low moon]

🥺

Also we need a plugin that recalculates the ligh but not chnage the shape or textures. so we cna mix and match different images.

[meager sage]

Did you give id or username

[low moon]

Username

[meager sage]

I gave username but it doesn't specify

[low moon]

yeah

vague

[meager sage]

[brittle maple]

[errant phoenix]

gm

[low moon]

im trying to make music videos

sigh

so close yt so far

this tech is so amazing tho, soon we cna be like a one person production house

[dry trellis]

I think they should give us access and let us start tunin'

[opal hedge]

They can't. Emad needs to hype up investors for another week

[dry trellis]

We'll hype them up for him if he gives us access 😄

[pearl ocean]

SD3

[gloomy elbow]

3rd time my ticket is closed with NO FOLLOW UP

Would you follow up this time?

I just opened the forth.

[peak tendon]

that's not true

[meager sage]

Gpt4 no

It's closed source

[vale steeple]

did he mean that particular LLaMA model which named after GPT.

GPT 4 is pretty much closed source. All LLM that are open to the public is either Llama, Mistral, Alpaca, Vicuna or its finetunes

[meager sage]

i assume

[frank kernel]

how many models have yall downloaded

[hidden drum]

😠 emad is making M"EMAD"

[vagrant wasp]

I need help with Lora creation, and a111 or some other webui

[astral goblet]

announcing stable diffusion 3 will be the last image generation model from stabiliyt, before the preview invites are even sent out.

awesome way to take all the wind out of the sails

[opal hedge]

I think the point was it'll be good enough to focus on a video model that can probably make still if you need it to

[astral goblet]

whatever the intenntions, the timing was bad

[opal hedge]

Yeah, it was a shortsighted pr stunt

[astral goblet]

i dont think it was a pr stunt. just a slip of information that devalues what sd3 is supposed to be

[shell tendon]

who are you addressing this to?

[astral goblet]

now the conversation will be "this is the last so we should just refine sd15 more"

[opal hedge]

The whole point of EMad's announcements is to generate hype to get venture capital flowing in.

It's not for us

[shell tendon]

i have 231 checkpoints

[astral goblet]

VCs wiill see that they're giving up on sd3 before its even out

it was a dumb thing to say

[opal hedge]

They didn't say they were giving up on

[astral goblet]

essentially

[opal hedge]

In the same post where they announced sd3 they said it'll have an upgraded version that they're already working on

[astral goblet]

"we'll never release anohter image model" says a lot

[opal hedge]

Eh, we don't really need another image model. 3D and video models are more important. I can already create anything I imagine with sdxl

[nova zodiac]

It means either the thing is so damn good you wont need anything else ever again, or we are moving to txt2video or some other ai field

[astral goblet]

if it can't do handstands, its not complete

[shell tendon]

sdxl has plenty of limitations

[astral goblet]

it wont be "so good" and will have limits

[opal hedge]

Everything has limits but it'll be better to let sd3 marinate with years of plugins and custom nodes

SDXL on release vs 6 months later was a huge difference

[astral goblet]

eh. community models are actually less knowledgable imo

[opal hedge]

Constantly releasing new models just seperates the development base

[astral goblet]

sad day to see the end on its way

we'll all move on to more capable base models withotu stability in a year

[shell tendon]

where did emad say we'll never release another image model

[opal hedge]

https://i.redd.it/i5mohsyyl8nc1.png

[shell tendon]

that's not saying they're done

that's bravado/confidence/cockiness

[opal hedge]

It was a dumb thing to say, which makes me believe he's doing what every other AI company is doing, acting like they're on the verge of a new breakthrough to get the investors lining up

OpenAI did the same thing with Sora even though everyone knows it's not really financially plausible to market it to the public

[frank kernel]

do you have them on your ssd? or hdd?

[shell tendon]

SSD

about to buy another 4tb cuz i'm outta space now

[frank kernel]

dang baller

is there a way to put them on the HDD?

[shell tendon]

yeah, just slower

[frank kernel]

is it worth the tradeoff?

[shell tendon]

to me no

i'd rather throw down another 300-400 bucks and keep the SSD speed

it only takes a couple seconds to load a model on a nvme ssd

with a HDD you're talking a minute or more

[frank kernel]

ohhh

i see i see

[shell tendon]

so you don't get to take advantage of having a lot of models

i flip through them all the time

get a workflow or some parameters i like with a good prompt, then start cycling through models i know are good at certain concepts

[frank kernel]

i see i see

u use comfyui?

[shell tendon]

yeah

[frank kernel]

i just started so im using auto1111

[shell tendon]

forge when on my phone

highly rec trying forge

for most people it's way way faster

[frank kernel]

ill check it out

whats the full name for it called?

[shell tendon]

it's basically the same thing as a1111 except at least twice as fast for me (and many others)

https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge

[frank kernel]

oh this is auto 1111 same but faster?

oh yea

would I just download this into the same folder as my stable diffusion?

auto1111*

[shell tendon]

i'd make a new one

you can point it at your old a1111 folder

that's what im still doing with forge and comfyui

[steep cairn]

Il having trouble installing stable diffusion on LM studio. Please help

[flint fox]

afaik LM Studio is for language models and Stable Diffusion is a image generation model, so it can't run on LM Studio sadly

[sudden ruin]

Hey there, that was my mistake this time, outerside wrote a lengthy reply a few days ago and since you didn't answer I closed it after some time thinking you read it. I'll see if we can recover the answer from him

[civic schooner]

Hi chat! Does anyone get early access to SD3 yet? I joined the wait list two weeks ago, but nothing happened since then.

[crude notch]

i think only model devs have access right now

[civic schooner]

Well, hope they release it sooner.

[forest osprey]

What’s you guys opinion about; when stable diffusion 3 comes out, will it be the perfect image generating model, will it be better than mid-journey or will it outperforms mid-journey?

[shell tendon]

It will be literally perfect

In every way

[astral goblet]

it wont do handstands or have dance moves

[frank kernel]

how do you guys remember what lora does what loool

do you have a notepad that tells you what lora does what and how to activate it?

[ebon axle]

Is it true SD3 wont have horny shit

[trail lion]

who knows, are you asking if it'll have nsfw content? maybe rephrase the question

[dry stratus]

I supose there will be a way to train your own checkpoint and then include nsfw content ?

[potent spire]

There is no perfect image generating model and this one is no exception

Better than MJ in which way? In terms of customization? Yes. Image quality? Not so sure

The achilles heel remains as always, ease of use and setup as well as spec requirements

[true canopy]

i would appriciate if someone could help me compare images in #🏞｜general-with-images

having upscale doubts

[alpine hull]

Maybe we'll have to ease more into doing it on the cloud...

Alien concept for SD users, I know.

[civic cradle]

anybody got an idea how i can roll back my automatic 1111 version? this new version is horrible

[honest mica]

git reset --hard {commit ID}
git pull

But i am not a professional in this!

So be careful and save all the stuff you could lost

[civic cradle]

what was the id of the version before this

like the feburatu version

a551a43164b8baf1b5652a9ee73081cca54c612b i think

[honest mica]

Sorry, on the Version i can't help you. Go through all the commits and check what fits for you. I am a ComfyUi user.

[civic cradle]

alright, thanks for the help

ill be back after i save my models

[fresh vigil]

when will sd3 come out?

[trim magnet]

before sd4

[olive basalt]

ok, today was the day of the week when I laughed the most sincerely
I just got banned from /r/StableDiffusion

"Hello, You have been permanently banned from participating in r/StableDiffusion because your comment violates this community's rules. You won't be able to post or comment, but you can still view and subscribe to it."

I always wanted to know how my grandparents survived the dictatorship, this subreddit showed me

[fresh vigil]

Thank for you

[marble lintel]

Morning folks. Does anyone pls know any good tutorial on how to set the right parameters for Dreambooth SDXL on Diffusers "train_dreambooth_lora_sdxl.py"? My training is working but the results are not great 🙂

[icy terrace]

hi guys , i newbie so i have a question . How can i generate videos by text and video embedding. Are there any models that support that?

[dry trellis]

I used the git log command to find the version I was looking for once. I just looked at the dates and estimated around the time I installed the version I liked.

[civic cradle]

6e6cc2922d39fff4029d47c316c22a1c152680ce

using
git reset --hard {commit ID}
git pull right?

[still glacier]

if you git pull you'll update again to the latest version :p

[civic cradle]

damn so its just git reset to roll back?

[dry trellis]

I think I just used git checkout 6e6cc2922d39fff4029d47c316c22a1c152680ce

[civic cradle]

so i paste git checkout 6e6cc2922d39fff4029d47c316c22a1c152680ce ?

[dry trellis]

I'm pretty sure thats what I did...I read a bunch of tutorials and just hoped for the best lol

whatever I did worked 😄

[civic cradle]

gonna try it now

wish me luck

[dry trellis]

good luck 😄

[civic cradle]

bad news

it didnt change

it still is on the new buggy and slow version

[dry trellis]

I'm looking at my notes from when I did it

[civic cradle]

what do they say?

[still glacier]

git reset --hard {commit ID}
should work, (it will delete any modifications you have done to code)

[dry trellis]

yeah I had one more step after that

[honest mica]

git pull

[dry trellis]

git reset --hard <commit-id>

[civic cradle]

oh no

my performance addons

[dry trellis]

so
git checkout 6e6cc2922d39fff4029d47c316c22a1c152680ce

[still glacier]

no.... it wouldn't make sense to reset to a certain commit and then update

[dry trellis]

then git reset --hard <git checkout 6e6cc2922d39fff4029d47c316c22a1c152680ce>

[still glacier]

those are not in the repositories. they should be fine.

[dry trellis]

oops

[civic cradle]

alright gonna try it

[still glacier]

it's "only" gonna revert modifications of files listed in the original repository

[dry trellis]

git reset --hard <6e6cc2922d39fff4029d47c316c22a1c152680ce>

[still glacier]

any added files (models, extensions, outputs, config files) should stay there

[still glacier]

no <>

[civic cradle]

now it doesnt open

oh wait nvm mb lmao

new problem

raise RuntimeError(
RuntimeError: Torch is not able to use GPU; add --skip-torch-cuda-test to COMMANDLINE_ARGS variable to disable this check

[still glacier]

delete your venv

[civic cradle]

shouldnt i add --skip-torch-cuda-test ?

[honest mica]

delete you venv folder

Oh, i think that needs more background.

[civic cradle]

alright

[honest mica]

You might have new dependencies now. So, you are basically installing it new with the old commit

[civic cradle]

hmmmm

its deleting

currently discovring

[warm junco]

Why is it horrible?

[civic cradle]

buggy slow and clinky

[marble lintel]

just pull an older version. That should be fully straightforward when using git

[honest mica]

Truly a Garbage advice

[marble lintel]

Thanks

Forgot to say you could create an extra environment for that and install the older requirements.txt 😄

If u need another Garbage advice

[civic cradle]

thats what im trying to do lol

yeah its still opening up the new version

now i cant generate images

[low moon]

Temporal Coherence. SD will kick SORAs ass. change my mind

[slow harbor]

i guess sd3 early access hasnt rolled out yet?

[royal laurel]

Hey, anyone knows what happened to stableboost.ai? The site seems to be down at least since yesterday

[robust arrow]

I need help/a tutorial on how to train/finetune stable diffusion models.
I have SD WebUI installed an running.
My goal is to create a Minecraft texturepack that replicates the style of an existing texturepack.
So from what I gather I would need to create an embedding?
The tutorials that I have found are either not detailed enough, or apparently for an older version since some features apparently no longer exist (image pre-processing for example).

[civic cradle]

u need to create a lora and i can make that for u

dm me ill tell u everything

[normal tree]

Hello, I wanted to know if some people would recognize a model used in some AI pics but I don’t know where I can post it ?

[civic cradle]

#🏞｜general-with-images

[fervent thunder]

emad is edging us

[waxen vector]

What will come first, GPT-5 or SD3?

[wispy cloak]

SD3

[shell tendon]

i'll buy an a6000 before i do that

[errant mulch]

Blue sky

[karmic cedar]

GPT-5 is going to get pushed as ultrapremium and will ultimately be so expensive that only certain folks in society will have regular access to it, just like how only some folks are willing to pay for GPT-4, etc.

Affordable access to AI will eventually paint society into different clusters based on access to intellectual capability, etc. hopefully folks will take it upon themselves to hone their own skills in light of this long-term development

Reality diffuses just as we diffuse our own thoughts…and OpenAI’s models all diffuse into an economic reality

[true canopy]

rly? seems a bit much, u think people with the most money will get the most premium ai and this, will increase their wealth that way?

[karmic cedar]

Well, paradoxically I don’t think their wealth is going to increase, it’s just going to stay the same

And fundamentally, intellectual expression itself will become aligned with how deep your pockets go

The concern is that intellectual expression, when from a human, begins to lose its value as it becomes less constructive / generative and more conversational / aesthetic

And that comes from an awareness of the tax these systems place on society and the world at large—the carbon footprints, etc.

[opal hedge]

wen sd3

How long can emad stroke our collective penasia

[charred mesa]

💀

I don't know what to believe anymore

will there even be an early test anymore

they are worried about the model being "not ready"

[true canopy]

slight overreaction

[real kernel]

I just hope they at least release it at some point

[dusk badger]

have anyone here tried making a lora using this

https://civitai.com/models/22530

[charred mesa]

Oh they will

it's 100% guaranteed to be released

its just that the testing phase is what we are excited about

there's this waitlist that we got no (solid) news about

besides Emad promising us stuff

[vernal iris]

hi people, i have all kinds of graphic elements and linedrawings in multiple styles in a presentation.
if I wanted to re-generate them all to be in one style with one consistent prompt, what tool would I use for that?

[marble lintel]

I just did 😉

[marble lintel]

This is not true. Open Source is nearly as good as commercial solutions. There was a leaked message paper from google in which they complain how hard it is to provide something above open source level of quality: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/may/05/google-engineer-open-source-technology-ai-openai-chatgpt [Google engineer warns it could lose out to open-source technology in AI race - Commonly available software poses threat to tech company and OpenAI’s ChatGPT, leaked document says]

[karmic cedar]

How does a platform like Sora factor into that?

[charred mesa]

https://twitter.com/Lykon4072/status/1766890155577663964

SD3 image

(not just a portrait)

[marble lintel]

Head Start. That's it. Things are popping up in GenAI fast. Open Source catches up at some point - and lead in many other fronts.

[karmic cedar]

Where does legislation factor into that phenomenon?

…when precedent is…set?

If so, what precedent?

[lone hawk]

very basic, also the sword is quite bad... at this point i can surely say that SD3 is nowhere near Dall-E 3 level of characters interaction.

[charred mesa]

The model has still not finished training, but I get your point.

I'm also afraid of stuff like character interactions

emotions, facial expressions

I want to know how good it is at those

[lone hawk]

those are bad, it can't do things like different eye color and blinking, etc, Dall-E 3 can do it all.

[charred mesa]

(or how good it will be once its fully trained)

[fresh vigil]

Do you know how much is left in SD3 training?

[lone hawk]

the problem is that Lykon trains it like SDXL, but it needs completely different kind of training, thus is why SD3 is bad, sorry but it's hard truth.

i stopped waiting for it, i know it's bad, they can't fool experts with those portrait images, Lol

[charred mesa]

my guess is that SD3 is around 3/4 of training 🤷‍♂️

no idea on exact numbers

[lone hawk]

yeah, it need like months of training to be at some decent level, right now you may just stop waiting guys, it's not ready))

[main mica]

Hello friends. Since I started trying to use the XL models, I haven't been able to achieve good results. Usually, when the image finishes generating, it has poor quality. I believe I might be doing something wrong when starting to use the XL models and would appreciate help. How exactly should I use the XL models? Do I need to first load the SDXL Turbo and then use the model I downloaded from Civitai as a refiner? Should I merge the base model with the one I downloaded? Or is it some configuration that I may not have set correctly?

[broken smelt]

Are you using the base sdxl or sdxl turbo? Turbos intent was to generate images super fast

If you want actual quality images, use the base model or a fine-tuned version off civitai

[main mica]

But using the RealVisXL as an example, what exactly is the correct way to use these models? Do I first load the base SDXL and then use RealVisXL as a refiner?

This is the part that confuses me the most

[lone hawk]

go watch basic youtube tutorial?

clearly u don't know what you're doing Lol

[broken smelt]

I'm not familiar with that model but I'm fairly certain you'd want to use it as your actual model. The civitai post of the model should say whether or not you need to use a refiner or not

[main mica]

i'm new on this, so i'm trying to learn :/

[broken smelt]

When SAI first introduced sdxl, they stated that it's fine to not use a refiner further down the line. So if a model is fine as is, you wouldn't use a refiner. If you do need one then check what the model creator suggests for one

[main mica]

hmm okay, thanks

[pine fiber]

sd3 looks like a miss tbh

from the images theyve been showing

[karmic cedar]

the devs are only demonstrating precedent imo

[fervent thunder]

What is the compromise with these turbo models?

[karmic cedar]

vanilla models are never as interesting as the human ecosystem that builds up around them

[fervent thunder]

They claim to produce high detail images in low amount of steps

[pine fiber]

yeah but I only care about fixing issues present with current models, which sd3 doesnt seem to address

[karmic cedar]

what are you noticing? I haven’t really looked at any of the images, still waiting to make my own once it drops.

[pine fiber]

well it is better but

should be expected from a larger model

[karmic cedar]

to look at an image is to look at a mosaic of qualia*

[pine fiber]

there is just weird things still happening

like with armor and swords

[karmic cedar]

ah….fidelity

[karmic cedar]

gotcha. that likely boils down to text encoder precision. if the model isn’t able to generate a sword with the context that a sword is a single blade, then it doesn’t have enough context of swords being a single blade.

now, a control net could be thought of as a mental heuristic—“okay, i need to make sure X does Y”

so that’s where those would come in, i suppose.

[pine fiber]

hm

I dont know enough about control nets

[karmic cedar]

i’m being super reductionist

but i find that metaphors work well to explain large concepts like these

[pine fiber]

obviously I could just say something like

the model should be able to recognise the points its wrong and iteratively refine them

[karmic cedar]

for sure

[pine fiber]

but idk if that kind of architecture exists

even models like gemini / claude would struggle with finding things wrong

[karmic cedar]

i think control nets attempt to offer that ability, as do preprocessing stages in some architectures

and in general we’re seeing a lot of whitepapers advance the science of building in more contextual awareness, so that’s an inevitability regardless.

[charred mesa]

I mean SD3's better prompt adherence might mean nothing to us if we can't run T5 efficiently

the paper states that it mostly affects Text coherence and prompt adherence slightly, but I am not so sure anymore

[buoyant moss]

Still limited to 77 tokens :/

[karmic cedar]

ugh.

[buoyant moss]

5 times slower than SDXL for SD3 8B on a 4090 with the same 50 steps 🙂

SDXL base*

My GPU is ready

[fervent thunder]

wait wait wait

sd3 is 5 times slower than xl??????

guess im not gonna be using that lol

[thin vessel]

is there anything that resembles a general concensus about mixing and matching loras, i mean like if you had one trained on sdxl 1 and in the same prompt a different one that was based on 1.5. ive always tried to match this for that, out of some ocd level need for uniformity who knows. same with control nets, like maybe you use XL Canny .f16 safetensors but you decide to use a 1.5 based OPENPOSE controlnet. im sure there a lot of reasons people would want to do this, mine is coming from being as economical as i can in terms of resources and the fact that have been working with deforum for about a year on 12gb VRAM rtx 3060 ran locally. i almost always have use-cases for multiple controlnets but trying to use an XL model and even 1 XL controlnet is already pushing me to the edge.... appreciate any feedback, thoughts on this. happy sunday everyone, hope errbody havin a good day.

[fervent thunder]

SDXL is already 2 mins per image

for me

[thin vessel]

yikes that a scary thought

little bit less excited now than i was 2 min ago about 3.0 lol

[karmic cedar]

it translates to more carbon emissions. 😦

more regulation, selectivity.

it’s a sign of the times

[buoyant moss]

Are you serious Marko

I have around 7 seconds for 50 steps at 1024x1024 in DPM++2M in SDXL in a 4090

And stability reported that SD3 8B takes 34 seconds at 1024x1024 with 50 steps for SD3 8B on a 4090

[buoyant moss]

So around 4~5 times slower

[lone hawk]

they already working on SD3 turbo

[buoyant moss]

Just my 2 cents, but I think SDXL Lightining is much better than SDXL turbo

At the same number of steps

[lone hawk]

yep, lighting is the best sdxl

[buoyant moss]

SDXL turbo looks pretty soft, but Lightning looks pretty sharp still

[charred mesa]

I suppose people are gonna use the 2B model

that's the most realistic outcome

[lone hawk]

sd3 is a huge step forward, but alas we will never reach Dall-E 3 level

[charred mesa]

they will finetune the 2B model to look as good as the 8B model if not better

[trail lion]

you didnt specify what "not great" means, but this is probably more indicative of something with your data set, captioning, etc vs a training paramater if training is not failing

[trail lion]

quality > quantity

[fervent thunder]

True

[buoyant moss]

@marble lintel if you look at the diffusers dreambooth script, it is not very good

[fervent thunder]

I could just do fewer steps and very low res

find something that seems cool

[charred mesa]

if 2B is still better than SDXL in prompt adherence

[fervent thunder]

and have it generate in higher quality overnight

it depends on how much better the quality is

what is 2b

[trail lion]

why not?

sincere question, I've never used dalle

[crude notch]

sd3 8b is on par with dall3

[lone hawk]

nope

[buoyant moss]

The diffusers dreambooth script uses the same caption for all images, the AUTO1111 dreambooth allows you to use a different caption for each image

[crude notch]

i wish i could post some sd3 gens (not mine, but not public)

[lone hawk]

i saw it all, sd3 can't do character interaction at all

[fervent thunder]

Bro if i am getting under 2 it/s on SDXL

[crude notch]

oh lykon's images?

[lone hawk]

yeah

[fervent thunder]

That would be so low on SD3

[buoyant moss]

What GPU?

[fervent thunder]

4070 ti

[crude notch]

there's the issue

let me see if i can find images that can be posted

[buoyant moss]

yeah that doesn't sound right, 2it/s seems a bit low for 4070 Ti

[trail lion]

character interaction? oh, pr0n

[buoyant moss]

Maybe you are using fp32 for SDXL and not fp16?

[crude notch]

oh they want that

[trail lion]

😄

[buoyant moss]

But yeah, the AUTO1111 dreambooth script is better than the diffusers dreambooth script

[trail lion]

2 people playing chess, that's the goal

[thin vessel]

prob pretty close to right, a 12gb card hitting like 2it/s, same ram but slower card and im pulling 1.4it's

[crude notch]

sd3 can do that

[lone hawk]

no, for example try in Dall-E something simple like: female elf with the sword attacked by the huge creepy muscle orc, epic battle, castle, rain

[trail lion]

I'd have to try ,but I'd be surprised if XL couldnt already do that

[crude notch]

it probably can

[buoyant moss]

hmm, with 4090 SDXL 1024x1024 I get around 7it/s

So around 7~8 seconds for 50 steps

[thin vessel]

the sdxl base? sorry

[buoyant moss]

Yes, SDXL base

no refiner

[thin vessel]

thats great then

jealous

[buoyant moss]

I use fp16 + pytorch .compile (no xformers)

[marble lintel]

I'll take that hint!

[buoyant moss]

I noticed xformers does not always give me the same image across different seeds

[lone hawk]

well, Lykon is welcome to prove it xD

[thin vessel]

what parameters do you use in your w

ahh just bout to ask

[crude notch]

i dont want to say lykon doesnt know how to prompt, but lykon doesnt know how to prompt correctly

[buoyant moss]

yeah, xformers speeds it up slightly, but even with same seed 2 runs look slightly different

slightly, like a few details are different

[thin vessel]

anbody tried the SUPIR upscaler yet? im just bout to dig into SEC_courses vid on that and check it out

[honest spear]

I don't know if he's prompting wrong, but I wish we could have at least 2 or 3 people posting so that we can have a better idea

[crude notch]

i would post a link to another server but i think im not allowed to do that

[thin vessel]

what was his claim again?

sounds like a "topper"

[crude notch]

(comfy and some other sd devs active in there)

[charred mesa]

You mean he prompts in the old way?