#💬｜general-chat

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zealous wedge
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I think you just delete the folder, because it installs the requirements inside this folder, so everything is there, but move the models to another folder if you want to keep them.

calm geode
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JSONDecodeError: Invalid control character at: line 3 column 171 (char 974)

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why does this error pop up?

midnight crane
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I think all this drama actually serves the AI community well, it helps define the problems and solutions of AI, and at the same time gives a lot of publicity. In the end everything worked out alright.

fervent thunder
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is there an archived version of this page where i can find the links

tardy plover
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sleek osprey
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this is so cool

leaden mural
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For those who didn't it's still in Stable Diffusion, re-added in 2.1

fervent thunder
fervent thunder
soft hatch
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You can re-add them via finetune or dreambooth

fervent thunder
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idk what either of these are

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and do i have to pay for that

soft hatch
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OAI's CLIP was holding a great deal of the knowledge on artists

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So it's kinda unfair to say it's SD's fault

leaden mural
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We can help you if you want.

still remnant
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does DPM++ tend to run slower than Euler?

fervent thunder
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@torn hearth

torn hearth
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How do I create an AI picture help me pls

fervent thunder
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and then ask the bot to make what ever you want

torn hearth
fervent thunder
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if it comes out bad, be more specific

torn hearth
fervent thunder
torn hearth
fervent thunder
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this isn't rocket science, man

torn hearth
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Its too complicated

fervent thunder
ember urchin
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hey, why some of my photos are blured and how to take off that blur?

fickle schooner
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yall the buisness that stole a discord server from a fan?

still remnant
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blur:-1.5 ?

fervent thunder
ember urchin
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its safety filter

grand relic
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hey guys, can anyone point me to a link /youtube tutorial about how to install Stable Diffusion? thanks!

torn hearth
fervent thunder
forest apex
grand relic
forest apex
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Stable Diffusion is a model and the software to use it. That must then be used with a UI, and there are various UI's available.

valid garnet
fierce pollen
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I noticed that auto's GitHub is back

cobalt cliff
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what's deep floyd?

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new psyop?

royal pecan
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well i guess you could use it with cmd prompt if you really wanted to

rancid burrow
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gm

cerulean rivet
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Will Google Muse be integrated with Stable Diffusion or will it be its own thing? I would love to be able to generate proper text in images with SD.

soft sparrow
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are they working on something other than stable diffusion?

devout dust
cerulean rivet
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yeah, you're probably right. I've seen eDiff-i and Imagen that are also able to generate text in images but these two are also in paper forms only. I am really looking forward to be able to generate text in images.

forest apex
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then the meme industry will go bankrupt!

cerulean rivet
devout dust
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Aside from the model never being released, they are also humungous compared to SD so will probably only work for the most high-end consumer GPU's (if they would work at all).

cerulean rivet
wise stratus
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they are bigger and slower due to the T5 language model in them but there are loads of optimisations to do

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you can expect SD to get faster and faster and get more features but there is also space for super high quality output

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you'll be able to try a whole bunch of stuff in due course will be a fun year

forest apex
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It's been an amazing six months man. Thanks for the updates.

devout dust
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I look forward to higher quality output much more than for speed improvement (if given a choice). Even on my old 1070Ti a 768X1024 image doesn't take more than 30 seconds to generate with the latest samplers. That's already plenty fast enough for me already, especially when a batch can churn away while I'm binging Netflix 😁

midnight crane
devout dust
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Every time we refer to it as last year, I have to remind myself that "last year" for SD only started in August... but so much has happened since then itsskyD lul

soft sparrow
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i thought the dreambot would only be brought back for a limited amount of time

midnight crane
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I do hope that more people will start making open-source models, Stable Diffusion will always have an advantage of being the first, but competition is always good and will expand progress even faster and further.

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@devout dust Indeed. It's just easier to refer to it as last year 🙂

muted skiff
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I wouldn't hold my breath for the likes of NVIDIA, Google and Microsoft to release a meaningful open source product to the unwashed masses, unless it lets them lock you into their clutches somehow

midnight crane
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@muted skiff Yeah, but there's always some in the woodworks 🙂

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Like Stable Diffusion were before we knew about them

muted skiff
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let's wait until SD 1.5 is surpassed before we celebrate

midnight crane
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@muted skiff Can agree with you on that 🙂

devout dust
midnight crane
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Don't think it will take long though, Stability AI will release new versions and we just need to be able to train on the 2.x models without 24GB card and it will become the next standard.

wise stratus
midnight crane
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@devout dust Yeah, I don't expect the big names to open source.

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Maybe leaked

uncut plinth
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We need and must bring the change that matter to this world. all this nonsense of banning everything just because they can it's NOT GOOD AT ALL

brisk coral
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I just started learning about stable diffusion, where do I get started?

muted skiff
midnight crane
brisk coral
brisk coral
muted skiff
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an online service is the easiest approach, but you sacrifice privacy, the freedom to generate what you want, and the ability to run any 3rd party model

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OK, if you're on an iPad you have no choice but to use an online service

devout dust
muted skiff
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I've never used Dream Studio but it's by the devs who released SD so at least you'd be supporting themn

midnight crane
muted skiff
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@midnight crane he has an iPad, he cant use this

brisk coral
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Perfect - thanks everyone, going to get started.

midnight crane
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@muted skiff Ok
@brisk coral You need a good enough graphics card, I think at least 4GB VRAM.

muted skiff
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@devout dust does Dream Studio let you load additional models you supply yourself? Or is it just pure SD 2.1 (can you even use 1.5 still)

midnight crane
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@brisk coral Obviously the web service (dreamstudio.ai) you can use on any device that can browse the web and display it properly.

devout dust
midnight crane
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@brisk coral You can also generate images using slash dream on the dreambot channels, replace slash with the slash character and no space.

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(in this discord)

pallid sable
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crazy macro

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how are they doing that? prompt templates or Textual inversion or something else?

forest apex
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it's a model

pallid sable
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I asked freeway about their filters and they said "Our styles provide consistent layout and structural cohesion when the same seed is used, which is not the case with either prompt templates or textual inversion or dreambooth"

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what does that mean?

forest vale
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sounds like a starting init image

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@pallid sable that tweet is a model

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freeway filters im not sure

narrow sluice
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@wise stratus Did you enjoy the holidays and off-time?

open cipher
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anyone know how to use the sd upscale script in auto1111?

short tapir
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What's a good model for realistic stuff?

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Like people?

outer crescent
open cipher
zealous wedge
short tapir
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🤔

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I.. onto even know what that means.

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Stable diffusion go brr

midnight crane
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@pallid sable Don't know, but textual inversion tries to mimic a style using the tokens that is usually produced by the prompts, since there are more tokens than words can describe, tokens can be adjusted to mimic pretty much anything. Don't really know what that has to do with the seed though.

short tapir
outer crescent
zealous wedge
short tapir
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I have no idea what that even means

zealous wedge
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the video explains what you need to know

open cipher
outer crescent
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try tiles of 384x384 and 768x768 just out of curiousity, ive had that kind of 2.x image fry look before when using res like 320 400

quaint yarrow
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seeking some opinions on some tokens i have been designing. is this the right place to ask?

steady arrow
fervent thunder
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Hi people, about the SD dreambot could somebody tell me how to select an image from 1 to 4 to use for outpainting,

wheat hazel
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I've just seen a prompt that goes like this [blah,blah,blah]:0.5 and [stuff,stuff,stuff]:150 for the negative prompt. I'm not familiar with this syntax, anyone can explain it to me ?

old marten
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My absolute favorite function

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Look up prompt editing automatic1111 and it will take you to the github readme page where it has examples

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I love using that technique to create chimeras of celebrities, you can nest them on top of each other

brisk bloom
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whats the best image viewer to review output files and delete the bad ones etc?

still remnant
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I like image glass, it doesn't lock up files and does a good job updating the list when new files are added to the folder.

old marten
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nah G. ImageEye

still remnant
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in other words, you can delete a file, even while viewing it in image glass.

old marten
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No ugly frames

brisk bloom
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yeah thats the issue I have. I click through to the next one and then it locks needing an refresh. I will give image glass a try

fierce hawk
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are there any models that output a vector instead of a raster?

brisk bloom
signal nest
short tapir
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Ree. Why can I not mind a model that makes anime old men

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Just makes normal anime guys with white or grey hair

wheat hazel
north stirrup
steady arrow
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Can someone tell me their hi-rez fix settings that work when your outside the 512x512 - 768x768 resolution ranges?

severe field
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This is so confusing, you have to be so specific, I got a Sonic Diffuser and it keeps generating ACTUAL hedgehogs instead of the Sonic OC looking people

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It got to the point where they dont even look like animals

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they look like objects

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its funny

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Can someone assist me in Voice chat?

dapper ferry
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I found out i can use Chat-GPT as a time travel device.

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example.

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You are Charles Dickens and you were transported to Tokyo Japan 2000 years ago, write an essay about your experience that day and write in the style of a Pulitzer Prize winner.

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It will then write a piece about japan 2000 years ago based on its knowedge as asked

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it mentioned a tea ceremony so i asked it to describe the teacups

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it went into great detail.

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sounded historically accurate.

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Then i found i can transport the guy to the top of a mountain with no gear. just for fun.

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Charles Dickens you are now transported to the summit of mount kilimanjaro and are left there with no help or climbing gear. Can you describe in detail your experience written in the style of a Pulitzer prize winner.

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And sure enough it works

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Now imagine this with a new version that has read every book and most text on the internet even different lanaguges....

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would be like a time machine

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Tie that to Stable Diffusion to give it illustrations

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and text to voice AI

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pretty good idea for an App

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And yes you could use the ChatGPT to help write the code, do all the marketing and more.

slim hamlet
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PEOPLE I HAVE THIS ERROR, COULD SOMEONE HELP ME, WHEN I PULL MODELS OF THIS ERROR IN STABLE DIFFUSION, RuntimeError: I expected all the tensors to be on the same device, but found at least two devices, cpu and cuda:0! (when checking argument for argument index in wrapper__index_select method)

sinful talon
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hey i have a question i see everyone on reddit stating that AI art is trained on stolen images, is that even true ?
sorry i dont know where to ask this question

dapper ferry
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no because you cant steal an image that is on the internet for all to see.. To steal an image you would have to take the copyright image, print it out and sell it under the guise that it is your work not the original artists

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Artists learn by copying other artists works and styles,

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and studying other art to get ideas and inspiration

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Stable Diffusion does not work by copying original works. You can do a reverse image search on an image you generate to make sure.

slim hamlet
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plis

dapper ferry
# slim hamlet what

somewhere in your settings you must have your cpu also selected as a cuda device. Thats all i can say

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do not select the cpu

slim hamlet
dapper ferry
bleak adder
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So my laptop can't handle local SD. What is my best cocktail of alternatives? Gracias 🙏

astral goblet
slim hamlet
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PEOPLE I HAVE THIS ERROR, COULD SOMEONE HELP ME, WHEN I PULL MODELS OF THIS ERROR IN STABLE DIFFUSION, RuntimeError: I expected all the tensors to be on the same device, but found at least two devices, cpu and cuda:0! (when checking argument for argument index in wrapper__index_select method) plis HAPEL MY

signal nest
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(I was dissapointed that M1 macs can't do that, but i have a propper desktop PC aswell)

bleak adder
signal nest
signal nest
severe field
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this channel is so neglected compared to general with images

slim hamlet
midnight crane
# steady arrow Do you mean for SD or outside of SD realm

Mean outside of the SD realm, yeah I'm aware of the buzzing SD model training, but we can't do millions of images, we can fine-tune it some but nothing compared to what some wealthy millionare or billionare can do, that's just the reality of things, real progress costs a lot of money, something most people just can't afford. But maybe there is a chance at collaboration, similar to science projects that instead of supercomputers take advantage of slices of other's people's GPU's, basically donating GPU time decentralised, there's some effort of this but we'll see if it takes off.

pine plover
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soooo how do text embeddings work? you just toss it in your embeddings folder and give the word that causes it to trigger right?

cedar kayak
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m00000rning all, anyone know of a model that features all animals ? i like to create something featuring a snake 🐍 , so ideally a model that includes snakes ?

astral goblet
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make sure they're loaded too. typically when changing models or starting the program

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and you generally can use embeddings cross model with different results, but they're better on the model they were trained for. i think it works if the refined model or merged model is based on one the embedding was for

pine plover
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aight, thank you

vapid tangle
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and bugs

cedar kayak
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yup

bleak adder
astral goblet
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theres a contest on hugging face right now with categories for such thiungs iirc

swift sluice
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Hey! Is it possible to train an embedding using google colab notebook?

vernal gorge
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Hey guys I'm new here, I wanted to know how I can use the advanced options of stable diffusion from google chroome

quick bobcat
signal nest
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how long does finetuning take eg on an rtx3090

lilac reef
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Does anyone know of a colab notebook (besides thelastben's automatic1111) that allows training textual inversion with the 2.1 model?

slim hamlet
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RuntimeError: Expected all tensors to be on the same device, but found at least two devices, cpu and cuda:0! (when checking argument for argument index in method wrapper__index_select)

warm panther
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what's the general take on Auto1111 WebUI vs InvokeAI's WebUI?

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do most people still prefer 1111's?

old marten
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who cares what ppl prefer. be independent, form ur own opinions

warm panther
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I mean

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I had 1111's webui

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but Im on a new install of windows, and I wanna see if I should download one first if it might be better

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I like 1111, but Ive heard they have some potential problems with licencing

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is invokeAi the one that's apparently actually open source?

astral goblet
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invoke i mean to work with more

leaden mural
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Heya, do you know of some objective sources of info regarding AI art? A girl artist wanted to research into it and I provided some of my research and will provide more, but I needed some more varied sources regarding the topic.

lilac reef
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InvokeAI's push against extensions because it may break their niche market bread and butter Apple M1 is the major reason I deleted it.

outer crescent
leaden mural
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I'm asking for research, not freaking opinions

outer crescent
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you're asking for objectivity regarding something that is subjective

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im not playing word games, its an actual thing

leaden mural
little plaza
leaden mural
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Something that an somewhat tech savvy person can understand.

little plaza
# leaden mural Not too technical, somewhat simplified.

computerphile's videos on youtube about stable diffusion (there are 2 of them, im not sure if i can link in this channel but you should be able to search computerphile stable diffusion) are a little technical but i found them pretty easy to understand as a non-technical person. But Yannic Klichner's youtube videos about the research papers really helped me understand them better. Even though i don't understand the math.

uneven wasp
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tbh the only satisfying explanation of the math I found was from the actual papers

leaden mural
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How about the controversy as a whole?

little plaza
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most of the simplified explanations ive seen like the infographics are a little too simplified imo

uneven wasp
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it's pretty easy to explain if your explanation boils down to "each step denoises it a bit"

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But beyond that it's hard to find a good explanation

leaden mural
leaden mural
uneven wasp
little plaza
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it's hard to find anything that encompasses *everything * about it that's non-biased but i thought this https://youtu.be/lc-RX2AGGNA was a very balanced take on a lot of it from an artists perspective

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it'd be cool if someone would break down the controversy sometime with a timeline haha

uneven wasp
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depends on where you want to include stuff. The opposition started very early on, but it took a bit longer for it to actually catch on/spread.

little plaza
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i feel like it happened all at once right after a fairly viral post an artist made about him being concerned with it getting good enough to pose a threat, and it kinda blew up from there. But i've been using ai for over 2 years now and hardly anyone cared (or felt negatively about it) before just after the launch of stable diffusion it feels like

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actually, i remember there was a drama a few years ago about a furry GAN called 'this fursona doesn't exist'

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People had the same issue as now, thought it was collaging/mixing art.

uneven wasp
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yea it was intermittent, though I saw the "AI kills art AI sucks" stuff a couple days after sd's first release when somebody un-monet-ed a monet

outer crescent
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i read some hamfisted protestation about taking photos out of latent space and lol'd

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yeah, ill just reach in there bud

little plaza
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haha oh i totally forgot about the monet thing, dang that feels like a year ago but it was just a few months .. things moved fast

uneven wasp
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deepfake controversy existed, but that was centered on a different set of issues

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yea kinda crazy stable diffusion was only released halfway through last year

outer crescent
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i feel like an oral history of sorts would be a very valuable resource, and handy to pass on to press before they make a hash of things in 23

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wait, we're already IN 23

little plaza
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maybe i'll start working on a google doc of a rough timeline of major controversy since SD released if i feel inclined after i wake up tomorrow ... for science.

uneven wasp
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eh, press is always going to get some things wrong

little plaza
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i would love if someone had made such a resource for all the controversy surrounding photoshop and digital painting in the 90s/00s

uneven wasp
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that's before my time. Though I don't know if the controversy was as web indexable as it is right now. How did it compare?

little plaza
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I was a teenager (and it was still difficult to get into college with a digital portfolio when i was applying) - i'd say it was pretty comparable, it's just that social media wasn't much of a thing so less concentrated. You can still find remnants of arguments about it in web archives here and there

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many people genuinely thought digital painting was cheating, 'too easy', etc

winter pike
little plaza
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they thought it lacked character because you didn't have the tactile experience or limitations of real media

little plaza
winter pike
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the fact that photobashing was/is still taboo in the art community before AI art...

little plaza
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There was a fairly popular artist on i think deviantart or maybe elfwood (im dating myself) who was 'outed' for photobashing her fantasy paintings but now it's an incredibly common practice especially for industry concept artists.

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Apparently r/digitalpainting banned photobashing 9 years ago and it's banned to this day, huh

outer crescent
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lol. photobashing's been around since analog photos though

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see also, sampling music 🙂

carmine fulcrum
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almost every digital concept artist paints over photos/renders to some extent

still remnant
lilac reef
uneven wasp
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might be a bit of a hot take but the "art community" deserves zero respect, even if many of the artists that make it up do

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just my opinion. It seems that opinions of artists aggregate terribly.

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"art is subjective" vs "thats not real art" are mutually exclusive opinions yet the community in aggregate holds both from what I find

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etc

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anybody else have thoughts?

astral goblet
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One of my favorite Canadian artists, Robert Bateman, got sooo much shit in his career for selling prints of his paintings instead of the paintings

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he'd do print runs of 1000 and the artist community were 😮

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they'd all sell for a high price tag too and the whole community were like 😠

sleek osprey
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Why does google have 3 seperare text to image models?

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Imagen, parti, and now muse

uneven wasp
astral goblet
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yeah he's got foundations and shit

tawdry wasp
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Sheesh

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Well good for him

astral goblet
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Digital artists these days are all selling prints of their art for skrill because of ground breakers like him who did what the art community wouldn't let anyone try to do

uneven wasp
astral goblet
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"buttt, the technology lets me print 1000 at the same quality"

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i remember a cool quote by him to counter the texture argument is "My texture is the same as a refrigerator" lol

uneven wasp
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What does happen to the original paintings though?

astral goblet
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i'm sure he keeps them or something

uneven wasp
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I guess he can afford a storage unit or space in a warehouse or something.

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There’s a warehouse somewhere with all Bob Ross’s stuff so it wouldn’t be a first

astral goblet
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his originals auction off for 100k a piece

lilac reef
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any one use the last ben's automatic1111 colab?

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Damn, guess everyone is running around with 16-24 gig cards, fuck.

uneven wasp
astral goblet
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yeah

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he wasn't a bad artist doing it. he's quite the master. that was the problem. he was setting a new market standard that upset things

uneven wasp
lilac reef
outer crescent
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well anything under 8 and you're not gonna be training anything locally

lilac reef
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I do

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just OMG is it slow

outer crescent
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yeah im 6 so.... ill squeeze it into something workable eventually

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too busy making crazy demon horror ladies to look under the hood and play with memory allocation

lilac reef
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I am a 1060 so only 1280 cuda cores

uneven wasp
lilac reef
narrow sluice
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I mean, imagine when your great something ancestors discovered fire

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Or stuff like wheels

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That's always going to be folks against it, no matter how beneficial it looks

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That's how you get folks going, in the good ol' days

uneven wasp
narrow sluice
uneven wasp
narrow sluice
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And there's actual incentive to keep those limited prints vs screenshots

narrow sluice
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Like some very unfortunate historical events caused by them.

lilac reef
narrow sluice
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We don't need to talk about them, there's more than enough examples.

narrow sluice
astral goblet
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prohibition, the war on drugs, the war on crime, it just shhows the gov can't stop any concept. just individuals

uneven wasp
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Lol removing lead from products did more to stop crime than any other policy

narrow sluice
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Teens used to smoke pot for the forbidden fruit factor, but with legalization in the areas, that factor for using it.

narrow sluice
astral goblet
lilac reef
uneven wasp
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Fun fact many hard drugs were perfectly legal during the prohibition

narrow sluice
lilac reef
narrow sluice
uneven wasp
narrow sluice
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And they banned entire categories under that assumption

uneven wasp
narrow sluice
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Kinda effed up

lilac reef
astral goblet
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regans kid or something? mrs regan seemed pissed about it all

lilac reef
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Nancy was hardlined, yes

astral goblet
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yeah she's partially responsible for a lot of death

uneven wasp
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Took a little legal refactoring to bake those in because there are so many varieties

narrow sluice
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It's only recently that they found out lots of psychedelic drugs can do lots in terms of mental health, and because of the way they hardlined those drugs, we lost 50 years worth of research into the benefits.

astral goblet
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maybe maybe not, but i think if nancy weren't the way she was, the war on drugs would not have occured like it did

narrow sluice
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Which is so ridiculous

astral goblet
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like it still is

lilac reef
narrow sluice
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MDMA helped even war vets with PTSD relief

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Which is huge

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I was following research on this stuff, and it's depressing how much red tape these researchers have to go through to even let folks trial these

lilac reef
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LSD, other psychotropic "drugs" has helped all sorts of mental issues even Alzheimer's.

narrow sluice
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Yeah, I don't care about drugs in particular, but it's heinous how much potential has been lost because of political winds on letting folks use existing drugs that could've saved many lives.

uneven wasp
uneven wasp
narrow sluice
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50 years is less than how long it took for them to get a guy to the Moon.

lilac reef
narrow sluice
lilac reef
narrow sluice
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Aka "This is why you don't get nice things".

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Yeah, I saw the story about him making drugs that weren't approved to test

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And all he had to do was ask, he might not have been in as deep crap as he got himself into.

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After all, when you're a professional chemist and an expert, they trust your word on things.

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Instead, you end up with a raid and a jail sentence because you tried to use that like political immunity.

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Sure his research is valuable, but ugh.

uneven wasp
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which is?

valid garnet
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OMG WRONG CHANNEL. sorry

uneven wasp
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lmao I was so confused for a minute

lilac reef
slate scarab
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Hi, Anyone speak spanish?

uneven wasp
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no (in spanish)

uneven wasp
slate scarab
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Can you explain me how to write the code to generate an illustration? Pls!

uneven wasp
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does code mean a programming language or does code mean a prompt?

slate scarab
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I'm a rookie and I don't know how work.

plain pike
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A prompt

slate scarab
slate scarab
uneven wasp
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You write a description of what you want it to generate.

slate scarab
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should i write some command?

uneven wasp
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what software are you using?

plain pike
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Android phone here

slate scarab
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W10

uneven wasp
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that offer free images

slate scarab
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The bot in this Channel

spark trench
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is xformer worth the trouble, I don't have it installed but seems like it could speed up the generation process, but the installation looks nut, I might make something wrong during it 😳

uneven wasp
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Sorry I meant to say the bot in this server. The channels where you can use it are listed at the bottom of the channel list for this server.

lilac reef
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I find people idiotic as I have watched this poll slowly drift over the decades with each new generation but overwhelmingly when asked which could you not live without a smartphone or a computer people are now (2-3:1) saying a smartphone.

uneven wasp
slate scarab
uneven wasp
lilac reef
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So?

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Honestly, people aren't thinking that deep

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Hell, most people do not use 2fa and still use passwords that are easier to hack

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For me I use my smart phone just a few minutes each month, but my PC is days and days

uneven wasp
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its more so that theres oftentimes a necessary service that has mandatory 2fa

lilac reef
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That is when I use mine. I feel so uneasy about the places I am registered to that doesn't have a 2fa option

placid shoal
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Asking for directions, literal dark ages

lilac reef
uneven wasp
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least for me, life would be very inconvenient without owning a computer but my tuition and rent are locked behind 2fa

lilac reef
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Fact is give me 1984-2000 to live over and over until I die

old marten
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I wasn't even alive back then, so I have no opinion

uneven wasp
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you know the line in the matrix where they said the 90's were simulated because it was the peak of humanity or something has aged far better than it should have

old marten
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Must've been nice to have lived before inflation got out of control

placid shoal
uneven wasp
lilac reef
uneven wasp
#

inflation in the 70's was a couple times worse looking at the data

lilac reef
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Then 1980s came, a personal computers it came back to normalcy then 2001 WTC happened and everything since has sucked only since 2020 everything sucks

narrow sluice
uneven wasp
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real median income trends up

lilac reef
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When CEOs make 400-600 times the average salary of their workers come failure or success I still say that is wrong

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been saying it since 1992

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only worse now

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what really makes me puke is seeing politicians who go in and come out multi millionaires

uneven wasp
lilac reef
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Of course I am highly politically sensitive and don't like the government at all, or anything it has done in a very long time. The corruption is at stranglehold level, nation crushing, levels.

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I don't just mean one government either.

graceful snow
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Can img2img be done on here?

lilac reef
uneven wasp
graceful snow
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damn

uneven wasp
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lol its a nice mockup

lilac reef
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Yep

uneven wasp
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thought it was real for a second before I saw the author's name

lilac reef
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Same

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Though you see people will fall for it

uneven wasp
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its got a little bit of worldbuilding implicit in it, I like it

lilac reef
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to build back better you must first tear it all down.

astral goblet
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When i generate tanks using Tank Girl in the prompt, i get awesome tanks

lilac reef
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I still love that film

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corny as it was

astral goblet
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comic book movie 100% but yeah.. ice cube as a kangaroo.. oh man

lilac reef
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LOL

astral goblet
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ice t i mean

uneven wasp
lilac reef
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Well, I think that lead him to do cartoon

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Ice-T I mean

bleak adder
tawdry wasp
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Cause it's...free?

uneven wasp
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worse in what way? Might be a smaller number of steps in the discord bot or some other optimization to make the free unlimited version cheaper

bleak adder
#

What exactly happens when it takes a step?

uneven wasp
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it denoises the image by a little bit

bleak adder
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Seemed to have the opposite effect on that huggingface version

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Hmm no, 0 steps is mega noisy

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ah, so guidance is not the same as steps

tawdry wasp
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There's no step count it seems. Images are okay, sometimes heavy emphasis on negative prompt is needed to get what you want. What is the problem you have?

uneven wasp
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the full ddpm is designed for 1000 steps, other samplers can approximate it in a smaller number of steps with a tiny cost to quality

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its only a noticeable problem if the step count is too low, otherwise the difference is generally too small to notice

bleak adder
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Interesting, thanks. I'm reading up on it now.

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What's the parameter for steps? I think I need to add it in manually on that site

uneven wasp
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depends on the sampler and image but I use 25 alot

bleak adder
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ah I mean, is it something like --step 25 and etc?

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There's no slider for steps in this HuggingFace

uneven wasp
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I think? the official repo has --steps as the correct argument when you run it locally

# 
parser.add_argument(
        "--steps",
        type=int,
        default=50,
        help="number of ddim sampling steps",
    )
bleak adder
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hmm I'll try it in the prompt

uneven wasp
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doubt it'll work. It uploads the prompt directly as a string afaik

narrow sluice
uneven wasp
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yea he did, check the name

narrow sluice
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Pretty good parody though

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Very good formatting

uneven wasp
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kind of like those emergency warning alien invasion videos on youtube but more grounded

narrow sluice
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Guy's a graphic designer 😛

lilac reef
narrow sluice
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That does read like The Onion. Which is the highest praise I can give in terms of a parody.

lilac reef
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Yep

narrow sluice
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Well, in order to make a parody, you need to wear its skin.

uneven wasp
#

somewhat related note but imagine a txt2img model with gpt levels of text gen. "An article describing X" and it'd give you the full thing

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as an image

narrow sluice
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The only thing stopping people is it hasn't gone viral. Yet.

uneven wasp
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oh no its certainly possible with minor manual work today but I'm just speculating about a model with that sort of cognitive complexity

narrow sluice
#

But the time we can get to that level, we have bigger things to worry about

uneven wasp
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by the time we get to that we'd probably be past generative 3d and video

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Though personally I think video will end up like LLM's where the extra weights have a noticeable impact on brining ever more abstract capability into it

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I was going to comment on training dataset for video but now that I think of it you could probably use screenshots from online videos as further training for txt2img

fervent thunder
robust dawn
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question

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what is the stable diffusion this discord uses?

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is it better to generate from the website, or from here?

glass grotto
#

guys Automatic 111 git is back?

uneven wasp
primal rune
#

где чат для других языков?

wheat hazel
#

@naive ember

naive ember
sage sky
#

is there a way to inpaint on a face and make stable diffusion create a body from that face???????

elder cradle
ocean mango
lethal kiln
lethal kiln
# dapper ferry no because you cant steal an image that is on the internet for all to see.. To s...

Exactly, this is why this counter AI movement is in an even worse position than Textile Weavers were, when something is on the internet, no matter what, anybody can use the material, Social Media Websites make money by selling your data and all these people complaining sign a TOS agreeing to let them do it without actually reading the TOS.

This happens with every new technology or methodology that has ever existed since we started Agriculture, people groan because jobs get automated, nothing they do changes anything, world moves on, people find new lines of work.

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Here’s a fact, in 2-3 years, everyone is gonna be using AI to create. Case closed. All my friends and gamers I knew grumbled when the Oculus Rift came out in 2016, said VR was heresy to gaming, now all those people have HMDs and play VR now. Humans adapt to change and move on…

this is just a more modern version of knights in the 15th century grumbling about gunpowder making their lifetime work of sword mastery obsolete.

sleek osprey
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or when artists cried about photography and called it soulless

lethal kiln
inner tapir
#

Seems like all models right now are either photorealism or anime. Aside from a few comic ones, are there any model projects for cartoons? Like Nick, CN type stuff. ( I won't be happy til I can spawn infinite nostalgic memes )

ocean mango
fervent thunder
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this has been the only period in time where the average artist could actually make money off their art

for most of human history, that was not the case

we are about to head into another period where only a small fragment of the artist community will make money again

ocean mango
signal nest
#

i wonder if you could adapt chatGPT to subsitute images for nouns(or noun-phrases) , i.e. instead of having to describe something very well , give a photo of it inserted in text (image links) - and do the reverse with the outputs .. go through the embedding vectors directly. Basically a visual vocabulary. Seems like you'd want this for film creation

peak sphinx
#

what's the difference between pickle tensor and safetensor models?

slow furnace
#

guys when i try to install stable diffusion it says

venv "C:\Users\Kuba\stable-diffusion-webui\venv\Scripts\Python.exe"
Python 3.11.1 (tags/v3.11.1:a7a450f, Dec  6 2022, 19:58:39) [MSC v.1934 64 bit (AMD64)]
Commit hash: 3246a2d6b898da6a98fe9df4dc67944635a41bd3
Installing torch and torchvision
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Users\Kuba\stable-diffusion-webui\launch.py", line 306, in <module>
    prepare_environment()
  File "C:\Users\Kuba\stable-diffusion-webui\launch.py", line 218, in prepare_environment
    run(f'"{python}" -m {torch_command}', "Installing torch and torchvision", "Couldn't install torch")
  File "C:\Users\Kuba\stable-diffusion-webui\launch.py", line 64, in run
    raise RuntimeError(message)
RuntimeError: Couldn't install torch.
Command: "C:\Users\Kuba\stable-diffusion-webui\venv\Scripts\python.exe" -m pip install torch==1.12.1+cu113 torchvision==0.13.1+cu113 --extra-index-url https://download.pytorch.org/whl/cu113
Error code: 1
stdout: Looking in indexes: https://pypi.org/simple, https://download.pytorch.org/whl/cu113

stderr: ERROR: Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement torch==1.12.1+cu113 (from versions: none)
ERROR: No matching distribution found for torch==1.12.1+cu113
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can anyone help?

dapper ferry
#

i totally remember when digital art was thought of as not real art.

lethal kiln
dapper ferry
#

i can see the complaining once replicators hit the market.

lethal kiln
#

People can still hunt as a hobby

dapper ferry
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its not a real object, its just a clone

lethal kiln
#

People will deny AGI can be creative, but what are they going to think when friends and loved ones symbiotically merge with AI?

#

Deus Ex was decades ahead of it’s time

dapper ferry
#

Iain M Banks wrote about this stuff in the 80s

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In the Culture novels it creates different factions.. those that did not want to merge with AI and those that did and became transhumans and such

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Those that want to merge with AI and become superhuman, thats great, as long as our civilization progresses because of it.. But i still might decide to live in a log cabin in the wilderness.

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I think we need to keep at least some of our humanity no matter what. But to poverty and hardships should be a choice.

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no but there should be..

lethal kiln
dapper ferry
#

I even thought of the idea of prompt nodes, which are similar to material or geometry nodes if you use blender

lethal kiln
#

It’s your right =]

dapper ferry
lethal kiln
#

I think the Technological Singularity is going to be a door to many different paths people choose to take

dapper ferry
#

afk

solid iris
#

Whats the best model for female head portraits? i need just the shoulders and up

slim hamlet
#

AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'pop' erro plis halp

#

-----> !!!! The file is most likely corrupted !!!! <-----
You can skip this check with --disable-safe-unpickle commandline argument, but that is not going to help you.

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "launch.py", line 299, in <module>
start()
File "launch.py", line 292, in start
webui.webui()
File "/content/stable-diffusion-webui/webui.py", line 133, in webui
initialize()
File "/content/stable-diffusion-webui/webui.py", line 63, in initialize
modules.sd_models.load_model()
File "/content/stable-diffusion-webui/modules/sd_models.py", line 313, in load_model
load_model_weights(sd_model, checkpoint_info)
File "/content/stable-diffusion-webui/modules/sd_models.py", line 196, in load_model_weights
sd = read_state_dict(checkpoint_file)
File "/content/stable-diffusion-webui/modules/sd_models.py", line 178, in read_state_dict
sd = get_state_dict_from_checkpoint(pl_sd)
File "/content/stable-diffusion-webui/modules/sd_models.py", line 152, in get_state_dict_from_checkpoint
pl_sd = pl_sd.pop("state_dict", pl_sd)
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'pop'

unique socket
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hey, any people here creating album cover art with stable diffusion? I just have a lot of know how about midjourney and yesterday installed automatic 1111 and sd 2.1, but my album covers are turning out awful

slim hamlet
#

hello guys how do i disable google colab security

vocal plover
#

Are wild cards working? I think it has been broken for for a while, I can't find a fix

slim hamlet
#

/bin/bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"'
/bin/bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file

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ERRO

#

COLAB

craggy wind
slim hamlet
#

help my pliss

robust dawn
#

hello this may be stupid question but, what is the reason people download ai on their pc's and use their own pc to power stuff instead of relying on others like the discord, website?

outer crescent
robust dawn
dapper ferry
craggy wind
#

you can use custom models or train your own, which isn't possible on discord (dunno about the website tho)

outer crescent
dapper ferry
#

And some people have powerful gaming cards that they like to think have other uses like SD

robust dawn
#

thank you guys for the answers!

dapper ferry
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But i use Dream Studio and soon Dream Studio pro

outer crescent
#

oh dear god, i just looked and ive 100gb of model blends. i need a clear out

slim hamlet
unique socket
#

where do i find these models? are they embedings?

outer crescent
signal nest
slim hamlet
craggy wind
#

or do you mean something else

outer crescent
unique socket
#

and its always the same thing right? both files ckpt and yaml into the folder and done?

craggy wind
#

yep

outer crescent
# signal nest just get a bigger HD

yeah but im terrible with naming blends so i dont know which is which, i need to run a x/y checkpoint or something on a few subjects, see which are keepers

craggy wind
#

why so much lol

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did you blend your blends' blends of blends ?

outer crescent
craggy wind
#

brute force and ignorance are key to great mixes

outer crescent
#

which ive twice accidentally done. well not brick just fully cease up

outer crescent
# craggy wind yep

best to get pruned versions and theres a diff betwen 768 and 512 and if you're flitting between models on the reg some embeds are only for 2.x and cant work on 1.x things, but i think everythings gradually moving out of 1.x land

slim hamlet
craggy wind
#
  1. Search quote
  2. Remove quote
  3. ???
  4. Profit
outer crescent
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by quote, ` <--- to be clear. though im just fumbling in the dark, havent much to work on here

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but yeah if theres an odd number of those in a line

dapper ferry
#

anyone here use Chat-GPT?

craggy wind
#

yea, why ?

dapper ferry
#

want to share prompts?

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im trying to collect prompts for chatGPT

craggy wind
#

nah thx

dapper ferry
#

k

forest apex
#

I made a post yesterday claiming the Anti AI movement was an influence operation. Had some convo, but one person replied that they were an artist and were being payed to make Anti-AI posts... now that comment is gone and reveddit isn't showing anything deleted.

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is tripping?

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Wait. I cross-posted it, there is a deleted comment with no username in the cross-post.

deft bronze
#

could also be an user having fun at your expense

outer crescent
#

people could just be talking crap though. but a lot of anti-ai people are like terminator movie larpers as opposed to real people with a horse in the race. but i wouldn't dismiss the concerns of people actually working in art

forest apex
#

Found the comment

outer crescent
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i know the world loves to lean towards conspiracy drama babble and hang on the coattails of incredibly rich mouthy people, so its hard to seperate signal/noise

forest apex
#

Oh well. Happy January 6th.

outer crescent
#

its not a holiday till hallmark make a movie called the january 6th prince

forest vale
#

@forest apex i dont think its any sort of conspiracy or anything. Prob the same sort of butt hurt people behind the general 'anti-ai' movement going to extremes and paying ppl

dapper ferry
#

i just asked Condense this text in to a sentence a 5 year old could understand... and posted a large text about loop quantum gravity

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Loop quantum gravity is a theory about how space and time are made up of tiny loops, and it helps us understand how things move and how gravity works.

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Adding prompt to my list.

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on ChatGPT

slim hamlet
#

-----> !!!! The file is most likely corrupted !!!! <-----
You can skip this check with --disable-safe-unpickle commandline argument, but that is not going to help you.

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "launch.py", line 297, in <module>
start()
File "launch.py", line 291, in start
webui.webui()
File "/content/stable-diffusion-webui/webui.py", line 133, in webui
initialize()
File "/content/stable-diffusion-webui/webui.py", line 63, in initialize
modules.sd_models.load_model()
File "/content/stable-diffusion-webui/modules/sd_models.py", line 313, in load_model
load_model_weights(sd_model, checkpoint_info)
File "/content/stable-diffusion-webui/modules/sd_models.py", line 196, in load_model_weights
sd = read_state_dict(checkpoint_file)
File "/content/stable-diffusion-webui/modules/sd_models.py", line 178, in read_state_dict
sd = get_state_dict_from_checkpoint(pl_sd)
File "/content/stable-diffusion-webui/modules/sd_models.py", line 152, in get_state_dict_from_checkpoint
pl_sd = pl_sd.pop("state_dict", pl_sd)
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'pop'

cold siren
#

download interrupted? or something

slim hamlet
glass grotto
#

does anyone have a video tutorial on how to use Dreambooth

cold siren
astral goblet
#

I opened discord today and it had a message at the top. "Take this 20min survey to help us out" so i took it, and it was all about how i use discord with generative ai art servers and bots

slim hamlet
#

is that when I put models this error

slim hamlet
astral goblet
#

So discord is looking at midjourney and thinking "hmm"

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I bet they're going to pivot

cold siren
#

and it is not corrupted?

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(can try opening it as a zip archive to check)

slim hamlet
#

help plissss

cold siren
#

if you are sure that models are ok, then the code isn't? 🤷 check the code

slim hamlet
# cold siren if you are sure that models are ok, then the code isn't? 🤷 check the code

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 91.0/91.0 MB 11.6 MB/s eta 0:00:00
Cloning into 'stable-diffusion-webui'...
remote: Enumerating objects: 12524, done.
remote: Total 12524 (delta 0), reused 0 (delta 0), pack-reused 12524
Receiving objects: 100% (12524/12524), 24.63 MiB | 9.25 MiB/s, done.
Resolving deltas: 100% (8758/8758), done.
fatal: destination path '/content/stable-diffusion-webui/extensions/deforum-for-automatic1111-webui' already exists and is not an empty directory.
fatal: destination path '/content/stable-diffusion-webui/extensions/stable-diffusion-webui-images-browser' already exists and is not an empty directory.
fatal: destination path '/content/stable-diffusion-webui/extensions/stable-diffusion-webui-huggingface' already exists and is not an empty directory.
/content/stable-diffusion-webui

vernal ore
#

Hellooo

#

What?

cold siren
vernal ore
#

Don't flood this chat please, I wanna talk here

slim hamlet
cold siren
#

hmm

vernal ore
cold siren
#

Python 3.8.16
don't you need 3.10 ?

outer crescent
#

yes

cold siren
slim hamlet
outer crescent
#

robertao i understand that you're frustrated but you've absolutely spammed the hell out of general chat. it looks like a 90s matrix screensaver now

slim hamlet
outer crescent
#

try zueuk's link, its pro advice 🙂

#

no problem 😄

cold siren
# slim hamlet I don't even know what it is

its the stupid scripting language that unfortunaly made its way into brains of most ML/"AI" people and now we have to deal with this shit including long ass error messages taking whole screen(s) 😐

gaunt tide
#

Im kinda new to this stuff and I need help with how to do something in stable diffusion. Where do I go for that stuff?

outer crescent
#

ask your question here and im sure we can point you in the right direction mate

gaunt tide
#

Well I have a picture of a face and I want to expand it to make it a full-body image

gaunt tide
outer crescent
gaunt tide
outer crescent
#

have you tried using medvram or lowvram switches? you can also work at a smaller rez initially, outpaint at that scale then make it bigger later with upscaling

dawn yoke
#

Hello all, who can help me, i want cartonize my photo with option img2img, can give me a solution? thx for all

strange aurora
#

Hey, can anyone point me to a method that can allow me to generate an original character multiple times with high consistency and accuracy?

cloud belfry
#

Hello humans! I’m a photographer/ artist trying to utilize AI, and also teaching other artists how they can positively use AI. Im learning Python but I’m wanting to start taking photos of props to use in building a model. Is there any resources youd recc for how many images/ angles/ view points are needed for each singular object? Lost but wanting to figure this out 🙂

cloud belfry
cloud belfry
karmic finch
cold siren
#

might be possible with training?

old marten
#

Keep in mind, there will always be a sweet spot between accuracy and flexibility

#

A highly flexible model will be less accurate and vice versa

signal nest
#

does finetuning/training a model to improve accuracy of a certain thing take more examples , more training time (e.g. compared to just teaching it about a specific persons face or something)

strange aurora
#

I can handle a lil drop in accuracy so long as I can I paint corrections

wheat hazel
#

I see that a lot of people seem to use DPM++ SDE Karras, is it better than Euler a ?

old marten
#

The more sample images you have, the more data the model has, which means you have to reduce the training rate, which means you have to increase the steps. Which means it will take longer.

#

But ultimately, after some experimenting, you will get a more accurate model

wheat hazel
#

more sample images => lower training rate ?

old marten
#

Sorry, in context it actually means, more sample images = more steps = lower training rate

wheat hazel
#

I'd say it largely depends on the data, no ?

empty terrace
#

This is potentially a dumb question to ask here, but does anybody know where the Anti-AI folks are hanging out on discord/reddit/etc ?

forest apex
#

sorta lol

empty terrace
#

Just trying to get a grip on their perspective.

forest apex
#

it's wacked.

signal nest
#

just look for artist communities :/

wheat hazel
signal nest
#

I tried posting AI textures there.. response was.. not good

forest apex
empty terrace
#

Sooo, I'm in some commercial art communities and the response in all of them has been mostly positive.

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But these aren't fine arts people. they are workaday artists/photographers. Immediatly saw AI as augmenting/accelerating their existing workflows.

outer crescent
forest apex
#

pretty much. then there are people that thinks it means removing all artists and having machines pump out art non-stop

outer crescent
#

😛

forest apex
#

this person said they were being paid to post Anti-AI stuff, then deleted their comment. I'm tempted to ask them for more info, kept anonymous though.

empty terrace
#

They were almost certainly on the disney payroll.

#

Disney is spending like crazy to promote 'ethical AI' Which seems to mean they can use whatever they want for training, and other people can't...

#

Might be one of the other folks on the copyright association though

old marten
#

Ethical ai lmfao

#

In other words, AI tools that are extremely limited moreso than midjourney and you have to pay $50/mo to use

forest apex
#

$50/m, in your dreams

wheat hazel
#

m = minute ?

empty terrace
#

I wish I could laugh at it, but thats the buzzword they are using to get Artists to support an anti-artist position

forest apex
#

posts redacted SS in general images

cold siren
astral goblet
#

There are a lot of ethical issues with AI moving forward, and scapegoating them away as "that's just the anti ai movement" is immature and a failure to address such issues

#

Pretending there aren't any ethical quandaries only empowers the critics

#

Many people are goon squad in nature and just don't care about ethics or have a capacity for empathy and compassion. So they'll often say "i can make all the porn of anyone i want!" and that's a bad look for any community to stand next to

empty terrace
astral goblet
empty terrace
#

BUT I've found 4 examples of people claiming they were compensated to make specific anti AI arguments, and they were all given the same talking points

astral goblet
#

thats 4 people. oh well

empty terrace
#

Thats 4 that I have been able to find, in less than a week, that were willing to admit to it.

astral goblet
#

Oorrr. they just said that

forest apex
#

This is similar to the advent of the internet, the number of issues society will face are incalculable. But, I do not think the fighting helps anyone

astral goblet
#

It seemed to rile you up. They may have been just trying to rile you up

empty terrace
#

Nah, I'm not that invested.

#

These were all fairly polite conversations.

#

I agree the fighting is bad

forest apex
#

Well, it helps whoever is behind it, I think they have a vision of how this will play out that we can only glimpse

astral goblet
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4 people being paid to say a few points isn't going to stop technological progress. If tehre was a scandal with AI childporn rings, that might slow things down a little. Sort of like how 3 mile island lead to the public hating nuclear energy. Even then, nuclear still persisted where it makes sense

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It takes a lot of energy to move a mountain

empty terrace
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right, my concern is that those talking points create a false impression of what the opponents actually want that's more in line with a third position.

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Rather than one that is broadly helpful.

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There will be plenty of agents provocateur in the coming months...

astral goblet
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Well, we know these people aren't the smartest, because they're paying out a handful of people to troll forums. Waste of time and money really. What they should be doing is using ai bots to get wider covereage for their trolling. I don't think they have the capacity to quell the rising tides at all

empty terrace
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Agreed

astral goblet
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Not only that, but they're hiring people who will freely admit the scam. So.. again.. non problem

sudden isle
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Using AI to lobby against AI

signal nest
empty terrace
# astral goblet Not only that, but they're hiring people who will freely admit the scam. So.. ag...

I 'm not saying it's a problem to be solved but we should be aware that not everyone we discuss the issue with is necessarily speaking in good faith or representing their own perspectives.
As long as we are straightforward and honest about acknowledging that there ARE ethical issues to be addressed and recognize that some compromise is needed, it shouldn't change the approach of most of the opensource actors.

astral goblet
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Yeah. Brushing off the word "ethical" as a buzzword, only makes that misinformation you're concerned about more powerful.

empty terrace
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I'm not saying it's just a buzzword

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But the specific keyphrase larger groups are using to coopt smaller ones is 'Ethical AI' , and when they say it, they clearly mean something completely different from what you or I do.

astral goblet
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The ethics of AI are a potential achiles heel. I think we're on track to have ethical models and users, because Stability is building it from the ground up to facilitate that. Since it's public an open, there always will be bad actors, but the foundation of the tech will remain ethical. Removing porn from the base training data for ethical reasons maybe isn't the worst thing

empty terrace
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It might have pissed off the casual users, but it was the right call.

astral goblet
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When people talk about "ethical ai" being the buzzword that brings down ai, what they mean is stability is kowtowing to artists. Which isn't true. Stability is building something new and trying to make sure it is building towards their goals and not someone else's

empty terrace
astral goblet
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One thing i'm sure about. The DMCA is obsolete in a post generative age

empty terrace
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Guess who owns the rights to damned near everything?

sudden isle
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If everyone has a personal AI that generates all the media they want yeah it's hard for copyright to even be relevant in that reality

empty terrace
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Disney
Getty Images
NBCUniversal
Netflix
NewsCorp
RELX
Sony Pictures
WarnerMedia
Thomson Reuters
Universal Music Group
ViacomCBS
Adobe
Oracle
NBA
NFL
UFC
and for some reason NIKE?
Disagree

sudden isle
empty terrace
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It wouldn't be hard for them to carve out exceptions for military/espionage applications.

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Those already exist in plenty of other spaces.

signal nest
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id guess that would all happen behind closed doors anyway

empty terrace
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This feels more like the fight over whether or not to consider encryption a weapon

little plaza
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the UK has already very recently made the broadest most permissive data scraping laws pertaining to ai yet - i think the US will follow because they aren't going to want to lose business to the UK because it's easier or cheaper to do things.

empty terrace
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I hope so, but we've lost that fight 3 or 4 times on privacy rights.

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even though the eu and UK are making us look like idiots

sudden isle
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A lot of AI firms have bases in the UK, including Stability for that reason I think, that they're really AI friendly

little plaza
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we won on SOPA/PIPA tho.

astral goblet
# sudden isle If everyone has a personal AI that generates all the media they want yeah it's h...

This is something emad touched on when i was watching one of his interviews. Turning the web inside out. Instead of content creation and hosting being so central to massive companies and websites, it'll instead be flipped right around and any person with a 4gb model can create all the content they want. he was speaking pretty loose an fast about it but i like the frame of mind and vision he has

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https://youtu.be/YaRdZ7d6o2Y this is an atypical interview too. It's not some tech journalist doing it. it's another community entirely with a wholly separate audience that emad is speaking too here. I like that too, that he isn't just pandering to one audience. This is tech for everyone.

signal nest
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it's good to hear buzz around the idea of digital abundance (personal AI generators) rather than digital scarcity (NFTs)

astral goblet
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There is some merit to a non fungible token, as a concept. NFT's as the market is right now, is a total gong show

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mostly cybercrime laundering

empty terrace
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ack wrong reply

astral goblet
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"then i force everyone to go opensource" is my favorite product strategy of emad's

empty terrace
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There was a hot minute where NFT's were just a neat high tech solution to provenance disputes, it's been a wild ride from there to 'wash sales all the way down'

fervent thunder
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Anyone familiar with InvokeAI?

empty terrace
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As familiar as anyone can be with a program thats only been around a little while

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It's definitley my favorite ui for this so far

fervent thunder
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I mean't in terms of usage and problems

empty terrace
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yes

fervent thunder
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It's not very active over in their channel

astral goblet
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Allow me to gush a little more about Emad. He jokes a lot about having a huge ego and being arrogant in his interviews, but he also doesn't train SD base models with his face at all. Not so arrogant that it becomes annoying. Just the right amount of humble

empty terrace
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yeah the invokeAI discord is kinda quiet.

astral goblet
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I wonder if his face is in the model though, just under a secret clip guidance

fervent thunder
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What does "Patchmatch not loaded (nonfatal)" mean and how can I fix it?

empty terrace
fervent thunder
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Windows

empty terrace
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What version of python are you using?

fervent thunder
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3.10.6

astral goblet
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I've been trying to install invoke but it's such a poorly formed process that i jusst gave up. The guide on their wiki doesn't line up with the current repo's files. the requirements.txt files are missing the one it says i need, so i guessed "it must be this version" and it wasn't. Now the folder is just toast and i think i have to delete it and let it download it all again, so .. that's later on when i want to bother messing with janky software

fervent thunder
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It was working fine a day or so ago, but then I got this problem

astral goblet
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As much as i try not to use Automatic1111's software because of my ethical concerns, it's all thats available to me for now haha. I'm not THAT concerned but i am working to move away from it

fervent thunder
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I even updated it and still

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python has internet access and still

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So, I dunno

empty terrace
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hmmmm... loooks like patchmatch might have changes live.

astral goblet
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here's the openai ceo for comparison. I haven't seen him do many raw 1on1 webcam interviews. Only big conferences that pander to people who are already involved with it. Keeping the knowledge all very exclusive

empty terrace
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It's needed for the edge aware filtering Invoke leans on.

astral goblet
empty terrace
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Faust, you can try backing up renaming your invoke folder and reinstalling

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that should force a version specific download of patchmatch

fervent thunder
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Looks like that's my online option, I guess

astral goblet
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"reinstall invoke because it broke itself" is the common advice i see people give in that community. But that's just the nature of these minimal viable products being rushed to release

empty terrace
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Things are always a bit shaky out here on the bleeding edge...

fervent thunder
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only*

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Basically, not a lot of info and reinstalling is the only solution

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I'll still with 1111 for now, then

empty terrace
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I want Invoke , but with 2.0 support and automatic1111's training interface.... then I can stop going back and forth

fervent thunder
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Yeah, has the best inpaint and outpaint features

empty terrace
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It's not just the inpaint/outpaint, the unified canvas ui for it is pure genius.

little plaza
astral goblet
fervent thunder
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the UI is a bit claustrophobic for my tastes, but it does look nice

empty terrace
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2.x support is coming.

fervent thunder
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2.x isn't worth using atm, but I could be wrong

empty terrace
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You can try it now if you are feeling exceptionally brave....but uh, I wouldn't recomend it, it is highly unstable.

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2.x is a huge improvement for me most of the time

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on txt2image at least

astral goblet
# fervent thunder 2.x isn't worth using atm, but I could be wrong

It's mostly what i default to. i play with 1.5 mixes but they're obsolete and old imo. I want to learn my way around flatter more level latent spaces, and refinements on those. I hope embeddings really take off with 2.x since they're so much better. The better structured latent space of 2x leads to such better embedding results. As great as DB imo.

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Most of the hate for 2.x comes out of the clickbait sensationalism that UD were driving, in order to better justify their scummy fundraising

fervent thunder
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Dreamlike-PhotoReal V.2 is based on 1.5 and it's using 768..

astral goblet
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embeddings , TI, multiple can load, blend them on the fly, no need to move from base models, they still work on refined models, they're just a way better tool

fervent thunder
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Shows that maybe it will be smaller groups pushing things forward

empty terrace
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It's not about the 768, it's about the flatter latents. No 1.5 based model is going to have that

astral goblet
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yeah 1.5 can refine on higher resolutions too. most people just use 512 because they're follwoing a youtube tut

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2.1 is a 512 base that's refined to 768 even

empty terrace
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People just aren't groking the benefits of 2.x yet, because they are only seeing the one step back, not the two steps forward

astral goblet
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thats a good word grok. don't see it enough. people just don't grok it

empty terrace
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when we hit 2.5 it will all make sense w00t

fervent thunder
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Well, they haven't really told users how to utilized it properly. Now, they're on to something apparently...

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something else*

astral goblet
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classic fake news problems

fervent thunder
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It's true that it hard to get accurate, concise information right now

astral goblet
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I think stability said something about making guides

empty terrace
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I don't get the unstable folks, just be patient, they'll be able to make all the smut they could ever imagine eventually, but by doing what they are doing right now, they are adding so much noise to the conversation.

fervent thunder
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We get that you're an antifa type person. But, you need to learn pick your fights better. Focus more on government corruption and corporate greed than people just being people.

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I don't want to get political, but that's something that needs to be said more right now.

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Thanks for the attempts at help. Remember what I said, Kiln, you're just acting as a useful pawn in your behavior.

empty terrace
astral goblet
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i looked long and hard at the conversation before replying after that post. i'm just lost now

empty terrace
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I don't expect every discord conversation to make perfect sense.

lethal kiln
forest apex
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for one welcomes our new technocracy

lethal kiln
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Regardless SD is on tens of millions of computers worldwide now. Unstoppable at this point

lethal kiln
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AI is taking over and nothing is stopping it

astral goblet
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well tbf, they made it suck

lethal kiln
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Genie is out of the bottle, fireworks happen now. Just grab popcorn and watch

astral goblet
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they do hit hard at times

lethal kiln
forest apex
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then they just invested in VPN companies and started sending out DMCA's...

lethal kiln
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I’m just happy Stability isn’t ‘Open’AI

astral goblet
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LOL yeah. Stable's strategy is to force everyone to open their systems. very cool

lethal kiln
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If OpenAI had things their way then the tech would only be in corporate hands

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Thank god though we don’t live in that timeline

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AI is loose now and it’s taking over :3

forest apex
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we must protect Emad at all costs

river maple
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OpenAI: Open for us, closed for the rest

still remnant
river maple
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Now that Karlo exists, there's a literal open source DALL-E 2 too.

lethal kiln
# forest apex we must protect Emad at all costs

The Luddites are most certainly going to target people, I hope Emad does stay safe, I’ve seen violent calls to action on silicon valley over on Twitter, not sure if it’s serious or not, but I get Nedd Ludd vibes from it, people are getting hostile to STEM

river maple
river maple
forest apex
lethal kiln
signal nest
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take nothing for granted

lethal kiln
signal nest
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AI threatens many professions and industries

narrow sluice
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Or are we talking different phrases? thinking

lethal kiln
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This always happens, it’s nothing new. People get reactionary

signal nest
narrow sluice
signal nest
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there's many excuses that can be used to push regulations: misniformation, environment (energy waste), privacy, copyright

lethal kiln
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It wasn’t just the Luddite Weaver movement against Textile Mills, they went after Threshing Machines in the mid 19th century too, they never win

forest apex
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@narrow sluice potayto

lethal kiln
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US Law doesn’t cover the entire planet

sudden isle
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AI Generation is definitely advancing on multiple fronts, like audio and voice is starting to pick up in advancements

narrow sluice
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My personal concern is industrialization created the robber barons, which can happen with AI companies

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Very easy to create corporate oligarchs when the tech is concentrated in the hands of the few

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And everyone else is screwed over

lethal kiln
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Art community doesn’t get it

signal nest
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for me the big deal is running it locally

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i've always been fearful of over-reliance on the cloud

lethal kiln
narrow sluice
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OpenAI doesn't care about ethics ultimately. Everything they do is for profit.

forest apex
sudden isle
astral goblet
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a more relevant example is artists trying tomake it illegal for robert bateman to sell lithographs and call them original bateman works.

forest apex
astral goblet
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or magaziines trying to make the use of public facing html require a license

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AOL almost built the modern web. Thankfully Sir Tim Berner's Lee released HTML as a minimal viable product

calm oriole
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Hello I am new here I need to help to start my first image 🙏🏻😅

narrow sluice
astral goblet
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lol

empty terrace
astral goblet
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until someone else proves that they created it before you, copyright is implicit

narrow sluice
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It's why parody laws and fair use is so intertwined.
People need to know what they're imitating in order to get the joke.

calm oriole
narrow sluice
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In order to make fun of a celebrity, you would need to dress like them

empty terrace
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Subscribed?

empty terrace
astral goblet
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Here's the big issue I see with owning the copyright to generated images though. So if you're inpainting and photobashing and going about the process that way, it's undeniable who owns the copyright. You. But lets say you're doing oneshots. Prompt + model + values == image. What if it was just a 512x512 image. "Portrait of a duck" and the seed was 1. most default values. So you done that seed first and posted the results online. When someone else does that seed without knowing yours ever existed, do they own the copyright?

empty terrace
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StableDiffusion is free and open source.

astral goblet
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In that sense, copyright law over oneshot generations means it's like a digital frontier that people can stake out

calm oriole
unkempt hatch
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any Linux program that'll let me add text to the end of text files in bulk?

empty terrace
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Got it, so which UI did you grab?

astral goblet
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to lay claim to one style of prompt, you'd run batches of a million and get a wide copyright territory over that portion of latent space. This could be something that patent trolls/copyright trolls do in the future

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Copyright reform is not such a bad idea. It's important we get it right though

outer crescent
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i own an area of latent space roughly the size of denmark. i am selling plots of latent space and which each plot the owner will be entitled to call themselves a latent prince.

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or laird, if you prefer

astral goblet
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Jarl please

outer crescent
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😄

crude venture
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😂

empty terrace
calm oriole
astral goblet
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Hah you said the size of denmark and when i googled "jarl" to make sure i know what it was properly, it's a danish chief. I know it mostly from viking culture too

empty terrace
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That doesn't sound like any of the UI's I have used with stable diffusion

river maple
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Copyright = copywrong

calm oriole
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I am sorry for these questions because the subject is difficult for me because I am not a specialist in technology, but I am excited about the experience 🙏🏻😅🙈

astral goblet
empty terrace
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and no worries. this is pretty complicated right now

little plaza
empty terrace
little plaza
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you're just paying for compute

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same as if you rent a gpu or use colab

river maple
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Compute always costs money. If you buy a GPU and run it yourself, you've still paid for compute, and you've paid for electricity.

empty terrace
outer crescent
astral goblet
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i compare it to renting skis vs buying skis. how often do you plan to ski?

empty terrace
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I have 320mm fans in front of my renderbox.

little plaza
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ive made about 400k images i think and i havent melted mine yet 😅

astral goblet
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you can also get used gpus and they work just as well. its not like these things slow down with age

calm oriole
calm oriole
outer crescent
little plaza
empty terrace
signal nest
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nvidia image generator/space heater

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sadly electric prices in the UK are about the worst

calm oriole
empty terrace
calm oriole
gaunt tide
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Any tips of getting really photorealstic outputs?

empty terrace
gaunt tide
empty terrace
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What UI are you using?

gaunt tide
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Uhh im using the stable diffusion web ui, just followed a tutorial on how to install it

empty terrace
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Right, but which Webui?

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There are a dozen of them already and more every time I blink.

gaunt tide
empty terrace
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Or you can link to the tutorial you are looking at it.

gaunt tide
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Okay I can do that easier

empty terrace
gaunt tide
outer crescent
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thats automatic1111

empty terrace
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yep

gaunt tide
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Okay

empty terrace
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so to add models for automatic1111you drop the models in the YOURPATH\stable-diffusion-webui\models\Stable-diffusion folder

outer crescent
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you need at least one model. grab stable diffusions model. the ckpt file pop it in models\Stable-diffusion and call it model.ckpt initially

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jinx!

empty terrace
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LOL!

outer crescent
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ill let you explain kiln 🙂

empty terrace
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then you need to add the corresponding .yaml file as well

gaunt tide
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currently using sd-v1-4

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which one should I have? or is that the right one?

empty terrace
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Goodness! 1.4 is ancient (by which I mean it is more then 30 days old)

gaunt tide
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XD

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Yeah I heard this stuff goes fast

empty terrace
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2.1 is the newest stable base model

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it's worse at some things but better at most things.

gaunt tide
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do you have a link to it? and do i have to do anything else other than just download the model file to change over?

gaunt tide
empty terrace
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Automatic1111 will let you change models back and forth from the drop down.

gaunt tide
empty terrace
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yeah hold on

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hugging face

gaunt tide
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aight, what specifically am i downloading there?

noble basin
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hello there, there is a way to retrieve all the style in the stable diffusion model 1.5 ??

gaunt tide
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ope i think i got it

gaunt tide
empty terrace
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the ckpt file is what you need

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yes, you'll want to restart, and don't forget the .yaml files.

gaunt tide
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refresh me lol

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idk where to find that one, i found the ckpt though

rich sand
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i managed to run stable diffusion on a 8 years old laptop with only 4 ghz of processor and 4 gb ram lol

empty terrace
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just a sec, I think automatic1111 needs it's own yamls

gaunt tide
noble basin
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@rich sand but you can generate images ??

rich sand
gaunt tide
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LMAO

noble basin
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oucchhh

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that's pretty long

rich sand
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Well, it's a very old computer lol

gaunt tide
rich sand
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but it's going to take ages probably

noble basin
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@rich sand but u need to use google collab for that

empty terrace
noble basin
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never use your gpu

rich sand
noble basin
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wdym ??

rich sand
empty terrace
noble basin
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@empty terrace ?? i'm talking to SeaNox with is 8 year laptop 😂 where did you read i 've mentioned your configuration

gaunt tide
rich sand
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i know that using GPU for these stuff can cause damages

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but

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i thing u didn't mean that

noble basin
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yes i didn't mean that

rich sand
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think*

rich sand
noble basin
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you need to use a gpu online

rich sand
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why would i need to do that?

empty terrace
gaunt tide
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thats how I did the stuff before