#💬｜general-chat

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fervent chasm
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and is ~20 face images still the recommended amount for face training?

gritty ivy
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it's sad how they can be manipulated so easy...

fervent thunder
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All I'd like to know, is if the creators of the SD spoke to many lawyers before they started. And what they said about it.

lethal kiln
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The fact is, ever since hydrogen started making ionic bonds with molecules the universe was synthetic, believing anything is inherently natural is wrong, Human beings evolved from single chained amino acids which then evolved over hundreds of millions of years to make multicellular life

lilac reef
lethal kiln
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Everything is technology, the sun, plants, you, me, everything

fervent chasm
uneven wasp
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everything is natural

lethal kiln
gritty ivy
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I don't understand why they are so selfish, with this technology we will be able to feed the entire globe if it works as it should.

uneven wasp
gritty ivy
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If they truly wanted to do good, they could promote universal basic income instead of promoting anti-AI.

warm umbra
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My take is that they feel like their identity is under attack, painting/drawing is a skill that takes years to get right its very very easy to make it your 'self'

winter pike
fervent chasm
warm umbra
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in their mind people can now do what they do without the sacrifice of 'grinding the fundies' for years and 'git gud' by drawing a decade

lethal kiln
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Right, Horse Breeders did the same thing when the Railroad and Automobile showed up. A lot went into their line of work.

gritty ivy
warm umbra
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True, we are standing on the shoulders of giants after all, and art is not created in a vacuum

gritty ivy
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Anyway, I don't think they will achieve anything with what they are trying to do. Companies will never think about their workers, they will always think about the easiest way to make money.

fervent thunder
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people love throwing the term 'late stage capitalism' around as if theres a precedence for it. People also love declaring were in the late stages of it somehow. People have been predicting the Decline and Fall of Western Civilization and the world at large forever too. When's that gonna happen again? Bit of an aside I guess. But imho buckle up if you think capitalism is in a late stage and about to go anywhere but continue to drive us all crazy

uneven heath
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Stream rns

slow nova
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the echo lol

gritty ivy
unreal oriole
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wen distilled

uneven heath
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(((((((((((echo)))))))))

simple nacelle
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^good one

narrow grove
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what is happening on twich

simple nacelle
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tech issues 💀

gleaming lotus
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wish there were live captions for deaf viewers

narrow grove
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can we use AI to do live captions?

unreal oriole
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In any language you want

gleaming lotus
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No idea but i know there are settings / extentions by streamer in twitch.

unreal oriole
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Twitch runs on AWS, AWS has a live caption service lol

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actually, it's near real time iirc

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so no live caption 🤔

fervent thunder
gleaming lotus
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Well if I mean its nothing like 1 extention in streamer dashboard to enable captions.

narrow grove
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please make future events accessible to all Stability.ai (enable captions)

untold moss
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huh?

abstract lantern
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Anyone know what sampler is being used by default? And is there a way to change it?

soft oasis
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Will a recording be available for the stream?

sonic tundra
soft oasis
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Thanks 🙂

abstract pivot
dapper ferry
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i wonder when its coming to Dream Studio

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cant wait for a price decrease i keep blowing through all my credits

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and 25x performance increase will mean i can run higher res with more steps

unreal oriole
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If it's 25x faster could it generate 25x the resolution 🤔

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also
laughs in gpu

dapper ferry
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probably... if given an image prompt

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100x faster with the H-100 GPUs

uneven heath
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any stability mods I can dm?

unreal oriole
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higher res = more vram ,
it will only work with higher memory efficiency as well

dapper ferry
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maybe it can work with tiles and outpainting

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and upsclaer

gleaming lotus
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that's how I imagine the gpu going like that 😄

iron hawk
sleek osprey
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@wise stratus what do you think about how unstable diffusion is manually tagging images with high quality "prompts" and then using machine learning (I think clip or something similar) to basically get much higher quality tags for all the laoin images. Is SD going to do something similar to improve the coherance/quality of the images

bleak matrix
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Thank you, everyone, for joining and participating in the stream. ❤️

delicate oxide
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juicy visuals

gleaming lotus
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Will be there any transcript anytime or any post about things at least been said cause of no live captions?

bleak matrix
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The stream is being recorded.

gleaming lotus
bleak matrix
wise stratus
arctic forge
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hi

gleaming lotus
uneven heath
bleak matrix
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I'm not 100% sure, but if I get time later after everything, I will try to provide a summary of events.

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The previous talk was about animation/AI. Unfortunately, due to this storm, my internet is going in/out!

round kraken
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That's disappointing, I used ChatGPT, Stable Diffusion and Uberduck to make an AI generated Scott the Woz video but it turns out all AI-related posts on the subreddit are deemed low-quality even though I spent over an hour trying to get everything right

bleak matrix
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So I'll try to recap as I'm watching 🙂

dapper ferry
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reddit banned ChatGPT?

round kraken
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Which is a shame cause I thought the result was quite funny, but I still had fun making it

dapper ferry
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seems the choice should be with the users, a check box saying do they want to see AI generated content or not.

narrow sluice
round kraken
narrow sluice
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Can't blame them

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People can be boring

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And Reddit says the same few comments on popular posts so I wouldn't be surprised people want to talk to AI instead, especially at this quality

sand shadow
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anyone here have tips on how to fix eyes in generated images? Specifically inpainting? I generate 512x512 images and don't know if it's better to fix them at 512 or say 1024? What workflow do you use?

dapper ferry
obsidian timber
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@rigid bough I'm trying to ask a question in the twich chat but it's blocking me for some reason. Trying to ask:
One of the major limitations of alphafold2 is an inability to model intrinsically disordered regions, mostly due to the ground truth its trained on being cryo-EM or other crystallography. Do you see a path forward for making progress on this problem? Disordered regions are critical for a lot of protein regulation but still very difficult to model and reason about.

sand shadow
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@dapper ferryI use it within auto1111, but I'm not sure it sometimes softens the entire image too much

obsidian timber
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ah. oh well

bleak matrix
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Tab!

soft sparrow
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the twitch stream

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i am confused

bleak matrix
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What about it?

soft sparrow
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was it supposed to be just 5 minutes?

bleak matrix
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There is a brief intermission as we are getting our next guest ready.

soft sparrow
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wait

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oh i was just late

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i got here just 5 minutes ago agony

soft sparrow
obsidian timber
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Now

soft sparrow
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cool

bleak matrix
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Welcome back! Thanks for your patience!

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This next section is about CarperAI

peak orchid
bleak matrix
grizzled harness
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If they do, hope they also ban Google and YouTube and Netflix from using all their AI algorithms off of my viewing/browsing/usage data I didn't consent to.

bleak matrix
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Today he is talking about large language models. 🙂

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You can check out Carper's website if you want to learn about their large-scale projects.

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They'll be releasing a lot of really amazing tech that will be open source.

dapper ferry
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So OpenAI could get massive revenue if they released a ChatGPT smart speaker

soft sparrow
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open source good

bleak matrix
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Basically--an alternative to things like GPT-3.

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@gleaming lotus

soft sparrow
dapper ferry
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i dunno... with all the novelty and hype it would generate, and what it could boast... it would be like when computers first hit the home

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people would be willing to pay

bleak matrix
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(There's a lot of technical stuff that's a little difficult to put into simple sentences, but I'm doing what I can lol.)

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They're talking about about how much data there is in the world already, and how this data can be used for something good instead of just for product advertisement, etc

gleaming lotus
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Oh interesting!

bleak matrix
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I haven't even used it lol

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Does talking always include flailing?

oak hollow
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Im having trouble getting stable diffusion2.1 to generate weapons. Any prompt ideas for fantasy bow and arrows?

bleak matrix
oak hollow
bleak matrix
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Right now, we are having a stream, but later, I might be able to help you

dapper ferry
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when are they going to release InventGPT?

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that invents things from scratch

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/invent can opener

bleak matrix
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To continue with transcribing

fervent thunder
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Chat GPT

bleak matrix
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They were talking about a lot of amazing technology, which, again, you can view on their website. Anyone who is interested is welcome, feel free to get involved in their community!

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Thanks to everyone at Carper!

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I can't guarantee anything, no. But if you have an issue, your best bet is to suggest something.

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Secondly, please be respectful.

full gazelle
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should we expect any surprise announcements or releases from the stream today? ( like SD 2.2 as a Christmas gift for the community wink-wink )

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thanks for transcribing the stream for us btw

bleak matrix
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Announcements will be given as they come 😉

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So you won't hear anything from me!

full gazelle
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alright then, keep your secrets

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its getting late here so will probably need to read a recap in the morning

bleak matrix
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Thanks to @tight quartz for a great intermission piece!

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Our next session is all about

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<3DreamStudio<3

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Our guest Kaliyuga will be here to discuss DreamStudio.

full gazelle
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aolko, eat a snickers or something

wispy jasper
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Anyone have any Speed improvement advice for M1 MBP's ? Trying Auto's and inference at default on 1.5 is 1.5it/s ... Pathetic.

bleak matrix
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Right now, they are discussing their first interactions with AI. Kaliyuga is discussing how she first started training her own GANs at the start of the pandemic and how it went from there.

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Bill is discussing NVidia's Canvas, and early kinds of tech, tools, and interests on using this tech for film. (And how hers is based on fine art.)

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Bill is discussing the technical details of how Canvas works, and how he's been making AI animations for a year.

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She is talking about the frustrations, but also the amazing adaptations in time, and just how quickly it's gotten faster.

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Bill is showing one of his animations with Gogan 2.

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And how he was able to do that.

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They are discussing Disco Diffusion, and she is stating how she was in the Midjourney beta, and how she spent a lot of time focused on still images. She said she's really looking forward to getting back into more animations again.

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The just discussed various types of models, etc.

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And just various types of stuff

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This section is going to be more detailed

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This is about how to prompt

gleaming lotus
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You're amazing 😄 You dont need to put a lot work on that you shall enjoy the stream ^^

bleak matrix
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He's talking about how some ppl are detailed, some people are not, some ppl don't know where to start, etc

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I'd rather you all be able to enjoy it with me!

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Also, for reference, I have a new friendly guide for everyone

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Where I have included basic information for new folks. It's not 100% done yet, but it's here for those that need it

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They're going to be making negative prompts

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And focusing on the aspect ratio

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This is the 768 model they are using

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(The guide includes info about prompting, including negative prompts)

gleaming lotus
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thats a neat one, very good ! 🙂

bleak matrix
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Hopefully that helps people transition/learn more about prompting.

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And?

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Lol no it doesn't

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I don't use auto111

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Nor do I need to

long marten
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missed the first part of the stream

bleak matrix
full gazelle
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fun police is here I see

bleak matrix
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They are discussing the negative prompts, and the negative prompt Interrogator, that is in the works. (No dates/info yet.) But it's in the works!

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I've written 400+ pages on 1.5

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🤣

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Now stop, please.

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You've been warned.

full gazelle
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🚓

long marten
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my messages are being removed by a moderator for some reason

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Is there some topic you're supposed to talk about? It seems pretty random

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what are the rules though

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I don't think I've broken any of those. Seems very random, was just commenting on other chat messages

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not mad just confused lol

ocean heart
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anyone try to use open GBT to make a prompt for them in stable?

long marten
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maybe my messages were too long? idk 😛

bleak matrix
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Do you mean Clyde?

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They are discussing various prompts that you can use, such as houses, etc

long marten
bleak matrix
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Okay!

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You will be able to use these prompts yourself

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They are discussing surrealism, as well as being able to use AI to push your own art form, and dream the impossible.

gleaming lotus
bleak matrix
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She is discussing the various types of styles and things you can achieve!

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You should be able to just use all of these prompts, even if you can't use subtitles!

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We have a few minutes left with this guest!

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Kaliyuga will be briefly discussing inpainting.

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She says she usually turns down her brush strength, and keeps her background turned down to keep is consistent.

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And is generating four. She likes the puffy clouds in the bottom left the best.

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Inpainting IS live! Just open in editor!

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There's also img2img, which you can also use for upscaling, if you really wanted to.

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Right now he's talking about image influence.

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If you can't see the editor, just scroll down! It's there!

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Please note you do need to be in Chrome.

long marten
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I discovered: there's an automod that deletes all your messages if you hit character limit on a chat msg. It's not a rogue mod

bleak matrix
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Well

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There you go

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🤣

long marten
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I gotta stop writing reddit essays in chat

bleak matrix
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Next up, the Stability Dev Team!

bleak matrix
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Developers of DreamStudio

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Today they'll be talking about plugins, such as the Blender and Photoshop plugin!

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Today they will be showing/demo-ing the Photoshp plugin.

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They also support Dall-E 2 as well.

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He will be walking through text to image...with Halo images...and Gordon Freeman.

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The plugin supports multi-prompts, cfg/guidance, multiple images, and will scale according to you document, divisible by 32.

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(Their goal is to provide support, regardless of what AI you might be working with!)

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He is discussing the various ways you can use it, such as copying seeds, using maks, etc.

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He won't be generating images today, to cut down on time.

heady bluff
bleak matrix
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If you want to include an image with your prompt, all you need to do is check a box. He is going over styles, masking, and how to inpaint a selection, etc

heady bluff
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That's an ip grabber isn't it

bleak matrix
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He gas not stated anything about payment.

fervent thunder
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its what?

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just this yt video

bleak matrix
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The last thing he is showcasing is layer masks, he is using the select sky functionality, and chose to change it into fireworks.

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You can also clean up artifacts, etc.

heady bluff
bleak matrix
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There are many advanced options, should you wish to do so, or you can stick with the defaults--It's up to you.

heady bluff
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Oh joy

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I am absolutely thrilled at the prospect of viewing yet another Haxball gameplay video

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I can hardly wait to be blown away by your exceptional gameplay and strategic prowess

bleak matrix
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They are stating they want to meet anyone who is interested, and involved in art, and AI. He's talking about how he made this before he even got involved in AI.

fervent thunder
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anyone been able to use chatgpt lately?

bleak matrix
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They are now going to share a lot of new things coming to DreamStudio!

fervent thunder
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are the training tools coming to dream studio and public release?

bleak matrix
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Such as selecting models, different kinds of brushes--just all kinds of brushes, bringing back things in your history and be able to pick things back up from where you were, etc!

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There's a lot of new things they want to do. They are going to be having new stuff in January, so look forward to that!

fervent thunder
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why are you writing in those boxes?

heady bluff
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Are you a bot @bleak matrix

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Why have you been sending an inordinate amount of lengthy messages in rapid succession

bleak matrix
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There's so much, such as the animation stuff, art tools, etc, that they are working on!

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Lol, no

gleaming lotus
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So it wont mess with chat, he's helping to have a clean image for some of us from the moment there are no live captions 😄

fervent thunder
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oh is there some live event going on

bleak matrix
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So you can tell the difference between me talking and the recap

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We don't have live transcripts, so I'm providing tranations/recaps for the hearing impaired

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Intermission!

fervent thunder
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the training tools will be interesting. I guess it will end the dreambooth era lol

heady bluff
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Didn't know that lol

fervent thunder
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me either I was confused I thought it was a bot maybe too lol

gleaming lotus
heady bluff
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Yeah

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A bot programmed to send remarkably lengthy and well-constructed messages

fervent thunder
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with what I seen ChatGPT do, it wouldnt surprise me anymore

gleaming lotus
fervent thunder
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unfortunately when I try chatgpt now it keeps telling me too many messages recently or something

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even though i can never use it 😭

bleak matrix
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They're talking about what it's like about waking up to working on AI, and how exciting this new technology is, and what a wonderful opportunity it is to be a part of this.

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They're talking about the explosion of the community, but even with how big it is, that it still feels like the beginning, even after all that happened.

left hornet
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HONK

thick wharf
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HONK

long marten
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I hope @wise stratus gives the SD devs a bit of extra time for mental health this holiday season. The amount of toxicity directed towards everyone from the internet right now is absurd and it's gotta be pretty difficult heheh

fervent thunder
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there will always be luddites, unfortunately they use twitter now i guess lol

bleak matrix
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He's been talking about how amazing it is just really just be a part of the community, all the ethicalities that come with AI, dialogues, and the importance of talking about these subjects, etc!

gleaming lotus
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Oh there will be always toxicity no matter what. Any topic too. thats how internet is 😄

fervent thunder
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yeah the two i guess

bleak matrix
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That's why we just make cool art ❤️

fervent thunder
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it's too late to stop this train

bleak matrix
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He said Happy Christmas, and thanks to everyone on the stream/to watching, etc~ and a happy New Year!!

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(and everyone echoed that)

long marten
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I think the art community is catastrophizing right now. Just needs some time for the dust to settle, and IMO SD just needs to make a model trained on open data so the "art theft' argument goes away

fervent thunder
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youll still have people crying that you made ai art that looks like someone else style off that model then

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itll never end

bleak matrix
fervent thunder
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there's only so many ways to stroke a brush, you add in 50, 60 artists and a good ai and youve got it all with good prompting

long marten
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TBH the relationship between training data and outputs is very misunderstood, both by artists who have never used SD, but also by me even having used it a whole lot and have a basic understanding of the tech.

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I think they would also do well to make some kind of explainer on how the outputs are actually related to the inputs, it's not just copypasting bits of artwork into a plagiarism collage. If you talk with people who don't know anything about the tech that's usually how they assume it works

fervent thunder
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theres so much exagerration too of course. like i was talking to a friend about ai and he said yeah you can just make your own comics now with ai, so comic artists are out of work. and i was like yeah i wish it was that good

long marten
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exactly. By using it I got a bit of an intuition for the limitations and the value of having someone with high quality artistic intuitions behind the wheel. I think there will still be draw-ers, SD is just a new medium

barren mulch
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For now

long marten
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I think there will always be drawers. People still knit even though there are giant mechanical robotic looms. In any case, educating the public about the tools, how they use inputs etc, will be a big help

bleak matrix
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They're talking about how they feel that we are really at a huge point in art right now where we can really use it as an opportunity to be even MORE creative. He's stating that Disco Diffusion came far really fast even in the past year. He's talking about text to 3D models, and how he wants people to react and interact with models in a new way/in all kinds of custom ways. (In other words, in ways that work for YOU.)

bleak matrix
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I READ THAT AS DRAWERS as in A WOODEN DRAWER

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Ahahahhahahaha

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I need to turn in my pencil omg

long marten
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Draw---errrss

bleak matrix
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🤣

long marten
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need new word for artist that is not non-drawer exclusionary

bleak matrix
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My brain is just too literal

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🎶 Another super quick intermission!

long marten
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what's with these bangers

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catlurk 🕺🎶 🥁

bleak matrix
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Well that would be S C O T T I E F O X

swift snow
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Hey where can I read about embeddings?

bleak matrix
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And, we're back!

bleak matrix
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I'd give you more info, but we're having a stream and I'm translating right now 🙂

swift snow
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Yea no worries! I did take a look at the channel but didn't really get any info on what they really are

bleak matrix
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Our panel is with David and Adam!

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They are discussing the benefits of open source. David is speaking about his experience in HS, "It's not mine, but I'll pick it up anyway," in regards to picking up trash. In other words, do things for the betterment of others, even if you're not part of the problem.

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He's discussing how everyone is a contributor, and how he doesn't want to take too much credit, because of just how many amazing people how everyone has been a part of this. And that's what Stable Diffusion is, and how it's been built by the community.

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Adam said he had a similar experience. He is discussing some of the projects that he worked on in the past, and how he got involved. He spoke a little bit about restrictions with previous projects, etc.

fervent thunder
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now that I know why youre in boxes, thanks for the updates csunberry

bleak matrix
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They're basically just talking a lot of amazing projects, and how DreamStudio was a fork off of HarmonAI. (HarmonAI, for those of you who aren't aware, is AI music generation!) They're talking about how that ended up being originally for animation, but it ended up audio/visual stuff in motion, and then it just grew from there.

bleak matrix
bleak matrix
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They're discussing a lot of the technical details with Disco Diffusion, as well as the amazing people behind the technology, and their contributions to DreamStudio, etc!

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(I'm trying to catch everything I can~!)

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Adam is talking about how he was invited to work on machine learning, and just how cool it was to get involved. David is just reflecting on all the history of Stability, and basically just commenting on basically this is all the history of DreamStudio, and how it began on their side, and their roots.

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Bill is commenting on the potential of everything, and how when he saw Disco Diffusion, he knew this really was something special. And when he saw Pytti, that he knew that they were groundbreaking, and just again, the explosion of inventions from the community, and the good faith, open source contribution, the Colabs, etc...it's all just incredible.

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Bill is stating that this all why he joined Stability, and he's thanking them, etc, for joining us. Adam says there's a lot of new stuff coming, but there's just a lot he can't comment on it now. David is saying he's not an artist because he doesn't have the patience. He says it's a real pleasure to help bring art to people, and bring them closer to their medium.

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🎶 Another quick intermission as we ready our next guest~

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And we're back!

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Please welcome our friends at HarmonAI~

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🥁

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Zach is giving a brief description of how Stability and Harmon came together. He got into the VClips Discord. He has a degree in computer science, was into computer science, worked at Microsoft. He didn't quite understand the code for machine learning. He started using Visions of Chaos, which eventually lead him to Disco Diffusion.

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He got interested in Pytti, in a bunch of Notebooks, text to image, etc. He understands Python, and while in Colab, he realized he could start playing around in Notebooks that had inpainting, and then started using his skills to play around and release Notebooks with his changes.

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He has a background as a musician, and like previously mentioned, his friends needed an animation, etc, but did not have the change, so he wanted to help them.(DD takes a long time.) He found a Notebook online that could work for his needs for Disco Diffusion, and was looking for audio reactive stuff.

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He realized samplers could make it faster, and went, D: FASTER!? Basically and got really into figuring out how it worked. So, in the middle of making a panorama looping video, he realized he could do this with audio in the middle of February.

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He heard about Emad, and research, and that he could have a future with Stability. Emad encouraged him to start his own community. He looked around to see if there was anyone around who already had their own community, realized there weren't really any communities, so he created his own.

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(We also have previous AMA's with HarmonAI, if you'd like to learn more about Harmon, for the reference!~)

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CJ, or Dadabots is now talking, and he's talking about how he went from metal to machine learning.

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They're a great community, and I can highly recommend! 👍

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CJ is talking about how they have their livestream that's running up with AI music, etc! As well as their various projects for music and sound.

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They also realized that it was much easier to approach musicians as scientists, as opposed to being musicians. In other words? Musciain, get in line! Scientist? Oo! You're different! I'm interested!

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Zach is now showcasing the radio stream, and is talking about the various audio models. He's talking about Dance Diffusion, which is a family of models--which means you give it noise and it denoises it into something it's been trained on.

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He's talking about how he wants to help other musicians, as well as people who have donated music. He's talking about how he wants to make it so people can pick a snare and use it, etc. Basically, his goal is to help people who want to make music.

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You can do audio to audio, where you can just tell it to add additional things to the audio, basically, and things like that, if you need it to, etc. Just a lot of really cool, different things.

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CJ is now talking about their entry to the AI Song Contest, which entry was AI Nuns in a Moshpit.

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Where they had to describe their process/methods. He said everyone had to do something different, and that they were judged about how inventive they were, and how it takes a significant amount of effort to win. (It runs in the Spring, around April.)

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I missed whatever they said because it crashed.

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Zach is talking about how he wants to make a model that everyone can use so that most people can use it.

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And how they want to bring in artists early on, and do the most ethical thing possible, and they want to get more researchers/people involved and how they're really excited to just be here and how they want to help people!

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Also, here is Dadabots website:

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They're talking about all the things they want to do with Harmon, and how they want to do things like being able to replace different parts of songs, etc. Just all really neat things they are looking forward to trying to do, etc.

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Zach is talking about exploring latent space, and how he loves the idea of exploring the space between songs. He likes the idea of seeing creativity like cartography, and a place of exploration--an idea which he found on the dadabots website. He's very excited about how it feels like space exploration for our time period, and how we can use this technology to change things and do things that people never would have thought of.

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CJ is talking about how if you think music is stale---this is the antidote. This is how you create new music. This is how you grow, and how he hopes that it creates new subcultures. He wants it to grow around the world. He said it can be adapted, and is readily available for people around the world, and will be for people around the world, as they need it to be.

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Thanks to the Harmon AI team!

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harmon ai should be incredible

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or audio ai once its really cooking

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you wont even need to train on anything but public availables and basic own compositions

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most pop songs arent exactly complex structures

bleak matrix
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Yeah

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they shared a lot of great stuff with the last AMA

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And we're back!

fervent thunder
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i look forward to the day csunberry i am listening to my own songs while making my own ai art too lol

bleak matrix
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Join the server!

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they're a great community

fervent thunder
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i'm going to create new genre of chill music to make ai too

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i didnt know you can use it already

bleak matrix
fervent thunder
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cool

bleak matrix
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Mathias is giving an introduction, and talking about how many cats have been made with AI because of him. He is talking about how much he has really enjoyed using AI, and the left is the progression one year of progress of creating cats.

bitter kayak
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what time does Claire Silver come on?

bleak matrix
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He is talking about how you combine different models, and how this is the building blocks of software. He said that he often uses Photoshop as an example to explain AI to people.

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He just talked a little about his project, etc, and just thanked everyone for coming.

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Quick break as we ready our next guest!

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I just want to take a moment to thank everyone for staying up (for those in the late hours of the morning)

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and for participating in the stream

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we're grateful to have you as part of our community!

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Welcome Back~

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This segment is on Deforum, aka Design Forum!

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Scottie is talking about how this is a huge community, and how he joined, and how he started at a very personal level. He started with writing guides, and how the community stepped up and started helping each other. He is talking about wanting to be open source, and continuing to be open source, and how he is grateful for other people, and how users want to continue to add cool and crazy stuff.

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He's talking about how Colab, and other services, changed their ToS, and how people wanted to be able to run things locally. Once again, they turned the community, and they got together and tried to find out ways to solve these issues. They want to be able to keep things free, and there's never going to be a situation where it has to be paid. He's talking about how they really enjoy what they do, and they want to keep it that way.

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Takyon is talking about Disco Diffusion, and all these different roots in Pytti. He said he wants to keep the spirit of community, and that he doesn't want to do anything but to keep that spirit, and that those are his goals--the spirit of creation.

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Takyon is talking about how he's willing to just let people add stuff. That there's no master or chief, but that everyone is an equal, and that we are here together, and that everyone's ideas are treated equally, and that is how he wants to keep it. And that if you want to contribute, just do it, show you can do it, show it to him, etc.

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Scottie is talking about how there used to be no user interface, but how in Disco Diffusion, that more tweaks were made, and that everyone began sharing images, words, and animations, etc. It became this wonderful collaborative effort, with films, animation, music, etc.

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Scottie is talking, again, about being able to add whatever you want. He's talking about pushing the envelope, and pushing the envelope, about asking why, about seeing if it breaks or not.

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He says that everyone just gets together and just kind of takes a vote and just talks about what they should or shouldn't do, etc. You know, it's a system together, no deadlines or expectations, just...do what you can, freely, the way that you do, freely growing together.

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And everyone is sharing their success, and because of it, it's just growing

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🪴

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You can find the tools on website!

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Scottie is stating that you can select a color palette with Deforum, and that while you can see this happen with SD, you can really customize, and pull color schemes for your own images.

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🛢️

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They are talking about integrating webui's (that the community wants)/community requests, such as automatic's, to work with Deforum, etc. They want to make sure that the community can work together to build features that they want and that they can be included and be a part of the future of the community.

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Also, grats on the 10k!

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Scottie says they let the pull request pile up so they're like Christmas presents, so that they can add features. He said that they meet a lot of cool people because of these requests, and that seeing these is inspiring.

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(We're wrapping up things with Deforum now!~)

bleak matrix
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pink hair ftw

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Our next guest is Claire Silver!

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They will be discussing art, img2img, prompts, etc!

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Claire is talking about using Dall-E mini, and bringing those images into DreamStudio, then using text to re-make those in DS. There's a site called Artvee has public domain artists you can search to find artists to use for your prompts.

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Using these artists, and prompts she made, with images put into img2img, she's re-creating those images using DS. She's commenting on how quickly the technology has changed.

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Using an embedding, she will be applying it to the image she just made.

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She is mentioning that negative prompts with img2img, etc.

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NKMD has an option to make it tileable.

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She is talking about various options, as well as all the different things she's learned about photography, and how it's pushed her to learn.

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As well as just making some super cool tile able images.

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She is talking about various types of webui's, mini models, training her own concepts, and tips about how to do so.

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The analog model is on Hugging Face. She's mentioning the Library of Concepts.

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As she mentioned, ALWAYS scan them when you download them! Be careful when downloading embeddings and models.

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She's talking about how she wants to train on her artwork, and how she hasn't tried it yet, but hopes to during Christmas.

vapid tangle
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any good alternatives to chatgpt at the moment? it's so censored it's complete ass

lofty parcel
bleak matrix
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(along with the ones I just posted)

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I also have

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This friendly newbie guide I've been working on

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it's a WIP

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and you can learn more about things by reading my much, much LARGER guides

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@ancient mauve

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Thanks again to Claire for being here!

vapid tangle
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thank you

bleak matrix
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np!

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Our next guest is TNR!

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MERRY FRICKIN CHRISTMAS, EVERYBODY! SHE SAYS!!!

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She runs the New Renaissance where they talk about AI, and art, in general.

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Oh, Amli, my brain feels that way.

atomic heart
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How powerful does you computer to have to be to at lease have some good images?

bleak matrix
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She's talking about how it feels to talk about how there's so much progress, and how she feels compared to all these people with programming, etc, and now here we are, and she doesn't feel so smart.

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He's talking about how unbelievable it is, how there's all this new stuff that's mind-blowing, and how to explain this stuff without having people actually use the technology can be hard...just because of how crazy insane and powerful it is.

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She's talking about being able to express herself now, because of chronic illness, she hasn't been able to, but being able to do this now is just a wonderful opportunity. She didn't realize the scope that it's far more than JUST about art.

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There's concepts in the one I posted. There's concepts that were posted in the stream today.

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There's also a prompt guide in there.

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And there's also prompts in all of the documentation I've done.

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She's talking about how it used to be every five years, there was a huge leap in technology. Now it's every five days. And she's reminding everyone to take care of yourself, and to take care of yourself, and how it's easy to get burnt out, even just being a hobbyist.

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Yeah, like I said, it's a work in progress.

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What you asked about was embeddings, though

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We have a section here called #📝｜prompting-help If there's a particular thing you want to create, I suggest that you search for prompts, especially through the communities, such as #1010577385009193061 nature, whatever you are interested in. My guides have a lot of in-depth information about how to use SD, and what you need to know about understanding it.

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It does include information about embeddings and models/training

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She is currently talking about the concepts on AI, and overall the fears/reactions with people. They are discussing the concept of how people process information, and how that may be related to how people feel/react to AI art. They're talking about how people have their own way of doing things, and how they're blown away by everyone's own process.

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He is talking about how people have their own investments, and the idea of people being replacement with high investments, etc, is just a massive idea that most people never thought of. And the concept of being able to do these things is just--something people never would have thought of.

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She is thanking Tasha, and everyone for putting the stream together, etc!

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Read my section on negative prompts. This applies to creating prompts as much as training prompts. Then go and read my first guide. There's a section on embeddings, and a lot of information on how SD works in general. It's not 100% but there's 365 pages of information. You can also read part of my training information, which I am working on, in Volume 2. There's also information on making models, which is not the same thing as embeddings. (They're two different things.)

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They were talking about how there's so many things that you can do with AI, including things for medical application, and just how it can help pinpoint accuracy, and the implementation of such thing. There's just so many things moving forward, and it's great!

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Her biggest takeaway, she says, is the Deforum palette.

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She says that she wants to learn more about machine learning so that she understands what everyone is talking about.

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He's stating that as much as he wants to focus on art, he wants to talk more and more about different aspects of AI, and how they impact us, and how we can do things in ethical ways.

clear agate
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Can I finetune/train two separate models at the same time on astria.ai? I've just paid for one, but want to pay for a 2nd and start finetuning/training it while the 1st is still processing.

bleak matrix
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I wish I could answer that, but I have no idea; I'm sorry 🤣

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A quick intermission

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AGAIN, thank you EVERYONE for staying here for our stream!

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we have just a little bit of time left before we wrap things up for the night

knotty raptor
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Is it true emad is censoring all new models? :(((

bleak matrix
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Six and a half hours running

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We appreciate you all staying with us, and for being part of our Stable Community!

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```NEXT UP````

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Gene is going to talk about his project, BrainDrops!

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Gene said thanks for joining us, and he'll try to keep things energized because it's so late. BrainDrops is a platform for generative AI art. Unfortunately, Justin was not able to be here today.

knotty raptor
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But will emad censor all new stuff?

bleak matrix
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(I still dropped his Twitter, so give it a follow, though!)

clear agate
bleak matrix
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There's various differences in the modes. I can't really talk about stuff right now, unfortunately, as I'm transcribing the stream 👍

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As way of background, he said that he's a "lapsed machine learning researcher." He said he used to study back in college, that he did a lot of things in regards to audio. Back then, there were no pre generative models, but you could create instruments, controllers, digital musical instruments, and this got him interested in the intersection between AI and art.

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He said GANS, deep dream, etc, really caught his interested him. He decided to double down and jump into it. He just felt something was special about it, and he just had this feeling that made him watch, etc. In 2015, he just watched as things escalated and grew so quickly. He thought it would be much slower, but it has been breathtaking with how fast it's been.

astral goblet
# atomic heart How powerful does you computer to have to be to at lease have some good images?

computerphile has some good episodes about how SD works, that build upon their videos explaining how GANs work an other Deep learned systems too. The tech is so new that materials are sort of scattered and all over the place. New advancements are made every week it seems, so compiling all of that material into one place will be a daunting task for anyone. I think we've only seen SD around since August. Hardly even 6 months.

bleak matrix
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He's talking about a lot of different platforms and how people who have been artists, and often teachers who haven't been able to make a lot of money with their art with NFT's. He had an idea called Abraham, which is a decentralized artist.

astral goblet
bleak matrix
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He has been focused on crypto, and the decentralization of machine learning.

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He said that he thinks they were one of the first to do a text to image service. Their next project is called Eden. It's a spinoff of the software which powers Abraham. (Which is a narrow vision compared to it.) He finds Stable Diffusion very inspiring, with its large and diverse community.

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He is saying that he loves the accessibility of SD, and that he, and others, want to continue to this, and provide that service. He is saying that they want to innovate, and here are some of the things they're working on/innovating on.

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They are offering multi prompt video interpolation, as well as being able to take two images and being able to transition between them in a cool animation, etc.

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They're experimenting on all different fronts, running their own API, creating various web applications with collage tools, social tools with SD, etc.

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Thank you again for joining us~

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❤️

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Our last and final segment is coming up!

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W000000000000000000000~

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I'm just going to let Fruit 🍓 take over this one

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woooo

jovial hound
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That was a great presentation, tying it all together with the robot story was funny and cute

robust coral
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wow - thanks for the show, all Clap

bleak matrix
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Thank you, again, everyone, for participating

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I hope

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my transcript

robust coral
bleak matrix
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worked out for ya

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my

robust coral
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now take some rest, too 😄

bleak matrix
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seven

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hours of typing

bleak matrix
robust coral
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@karmic brook great segment ❤️‍🔥

karmic brook
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❤️

karmic brook
paper prism
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does anyone know what this error means? i ran into it a couple of times .
RuntimeError: "log_vml_cpu" not implemented for 'Half'

wild steppe
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thank you everyone who joined ❤️

bleak matrix
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For everyone who wanted/needed transcripts, it's all above.

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I did the best I could.

robust coral
bleak matrix
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I may shove it in a document later.

bleak matrix
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I love everyone's enthusiasm.

wild steppe
robust coral
robust coral
gilded anvil
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how can i actually use the ai is there and app or a website?

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nvm i read the start here should done that first lmfao

robust coral
bleak matrix
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I'll put them here

gilded anvil
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im trying to pu mini conda in the stable diffusions main and its giving me an error saying the file is not empty

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any 1 know what to do?

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can someone explain conda to me? ive downloaded it but i cant open it or anything

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i cant ge tpast step 7 of the guide

clear agate
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astria.ai has been 'processing' for 15 min so far to generate an image. Do I (i) wait; (ii) kill & restart; (iii) try again another time?

clear agate
whole portal
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Is openjourney v2 better than the first one?

thick tangle
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is this dreambot is free

vapid tangle
clear agate
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when astria.ai generates images, can I recover the (random) seeds used? I want to develop the good ones.

lilac reef
young ivy
eternal pendant
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Does anyone have have download link for a bunch of wild cards?

left knot
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Hey can someoen test if SDUpscale is working with autos latest webui update?

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hes just pushed a bunch of updates and since then my SDUpscale is breaking hard on all models

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  File "E:\StableDiffusionFixed\stable-diffusion-webui\modules\esrgan_model.py", line 154, in do_upscale
    img = esrgan_upscale(model, img)
  File "E:\StableDiffusionFixed\stable-diffusion-webui\modules\esrgan_model.py", line 225, in esrgan_upscale
    output = upscale_without_tiling(model, tile)
  File "E:\StableDiffusionFixed\stable-diffusion-webui\modules\esrgan_model.py", line 204, in upscale_without_tiling
    output = model(img)
  File "E:\StableDiffusionFixed\stable-diffusion-webui\venv\lib\site-packages\torch\nn\modules\module.py", line 1130, in _call_impl
    return forward_call(*input, **kwargs)
  File "E:\StableDiffusionFixed\stable-diffusion-webui\modules\esrgan_model_arch.py", line 61, in forward
    return self.model(feat)
  File "E:\StableDiffusionFixed\stable-diffusion-webui\venv\lib\site-packages\torch\nn\modules\module.py", line 1130, in _call_impl
    return forward_call(*input, **kwargs)
  File "E:\StableDiffusionFixed\stable-diffusion-webui\venv\lib\site-packages\torch\nn\modules\container.py", line 139, in forward
    input = module(input)
  File "E:\StableDiffusionFixed\stable-diffusion-webui\venv\lib\site-packages\torch\nn\modules\module.py", line 1130, in _call_impl
    return forward_call(*input, **kwargs)
  File "E:\StableDiffusionFixed\stable-diffusion-webui\venv\lib\site-packages\torch\nn\modules\conv.py", line 457, in forward
    return self._conv_forward(input, self.weight, self.bias)
  File "E:\StableDiffusionFixed\stable-diffusion-webui\venv\lib\site-packages\torch\nn\modules\conv.py", line 453, in _conv_forward
    return F.conv2d(input, weight, bias, self.stride,
RuntimeError: Given groups=1, weight of size [64, 3, 3, 3], expected input[1, 4, 192, 192] to have 3 channels, but got 4 channels instead

^^ Lot of Upscaling errors

fervent thunder
deep rover
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I don't wanna watch the entire Stability twitch stream. What important things were said there?

gleaming lotus
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@bleak matrix thank you for all your effort. Respect!! habby

brazen fox
ocean mango
magic citrus
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I just published a new post on Substack about fine-tuning stable diffusion models, and I wanted to share it with all of you. I'm sharing my thoughts on the process after reaching ~100 runs, a mental model for approaching it. I wonder what your thoughts are on this topic in general and how you approach goal setting and methodology selection https://followfoxai.substack.com/p/maximizing-your-stable-diffusion

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fervent thunder
bleak matrix
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rolls over, goes back to sleep Merry Christmas, my friends!

raw crypt
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Merry Christmas dudes and dudettes

lofty parcel
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Right back at ya

keen lichen
rose sedge
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control+UP doesn't work anymore on auto1111?

sand holly
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what is the initialization text for when creating an embedding?

ionic topaz
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What software do you guys use for stable diffusion v2?
InvokeAI doesn't support it yet:/

brave wolf
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In the mid 90s the coolest thing my computer could do was emulate retro games,
in the early 2000s it was web2.0 and everything that era brought,
in the mid 2000s it was spinning up computers and networks in the cloud with ease,
and in 2023 it's easy, fast AI art workflows.
THANK YOU Stability AI and all the generative AI shoulders we stand on

brave wolf
blissful bobcat
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eyyy

wide juniper
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When is the right time to increase steps? Instead of trying other things like generating another batch

brazen fox
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@thorny depot apologies for the @ but I think the reason is obvious

thorny depot
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Thanks for letting me know. Much appreciated.

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Hi

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👋

lilac reef
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I just tried to install DB locally from extensions "stderr: ERROR: Could not install packages due to an OSError: [WinError 5] Access is denied: 'D:\stable-diffusion-webui\venv\Lib\site-packages\cv2\cv2.pyd'
Check the permissions."

brave wolf
lilac reef
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Since it is WebUI that creates the venv I have no idea what Automatic did

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I just let it recreate the venv so here goes

brave wolf
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web ui doesn't let you run as root in the linux version, so if the dir permissions need root you'll be in a catch-22

lilac reef
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stderr: ERROR: Could not install packages due to an OSError: [WinError 5] Access is denied: 'D:\stable-diffusion-webui\venv\Lib\site-packages\cv2\cv2.pyd'
Check the permissions.

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I never run as priv so he is zapping cv2 that DB wants

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Not an issue I can fix it is Automatic1111 doing this

brave wolf
lilac reef
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Naw, that isn't it but a lot of people have been having issues and it very well could be this because most people never EVER go to the cli window to see what anything has done. Windows users are not used to that they expect popup error boxes and stuff.

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I'd install this manually but they give no instructions on how so I guess time to put a ticket in. Thanks for the help.

hallow vortex
gleaming lotus
thick coral
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I've been trying to find citations for all the art that was fed to the AI
Does a list exist or no?

high trellis
thick coral
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Coz a list of citations is like
The least SD could do

brazen fox
thick coral
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But the people that own SD made LAION

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I don't think excusing data laundering and blatant thievery for profit is okay

brazen fox
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ah, you're one of those

thick coral
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A real artist? You bet

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If music ai can manage to not infringe then so can visual ai art

brazen fox
thick coral
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Do you understand how the creative process works?
AI is akin to forgery

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You, and no other SD user, is an artist

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You put 0 work into making anything
You took someone else's work, jumbled it around without intention, and called it your own

brazen fox
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That just proves you have no clue how image generation actually works

thick coral
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Art requires talent
It requires effort
You keyboard warriors will always defend it though

brazen fox
thick coral
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That is driven through a machine
You made nothing

brazen fox
sage loom
thick coral
brazen fox
# thick coral Talentless clowns... all of you Thieves and lowlives

god why am I even arguing when I could be doing something more productive

you are not superior because you make 'real art'
I am not calling whatever I do in SD 'art', this is just a fun hobby- I'm calling myself an artist because of creative expression via other means
calling everyone talentless clowns just reflects poorly on your judgement and capability to do any research

sage loom
brazen fox
thick coral
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Then those of you that leverage this tool as a real way to make art need to get a clue

brazen fox
thick coral
sage loom
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Go bother them

undone ledge
wispy jasper
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Has there been any news on updates coming re inference speed? I know there's been some tech developments from nvidia/google and volta. On M1 Mac's I'm getting 1.2It/s

thick coral
undone ledge
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That's what's makes all of this sad and annoying, all you anti AI art people are just ripping off arguments from the past. You are copying every anti-digital, anti-collage, anti-progress fools from the past.

sage loom
brazen fox
cloud matrix
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Merry Christmas 🤶

undone ledge
brazen fox
sage loom
wispy jasper
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Fear is a natural human instinct. The heuristic is 'loss aversion'. People especially fear what they don't understand. Technology has always been feared. Especially as it relates to jobs >> Excel (Accountants), Word (Secretaries), Photoshop/Illustrator ( Illustrators, Designers), Cars (Horse Caretakers)

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winter pike
slate crescent
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at the risk of escalating one off-topic culture war drama into another, you know what this confusion reminds me of? "[medicine] was made with aborted fetal cells!!!"

Very much the same indignant energy, very much the same compulsion of everyone listening to (equally indignantly) comment or explain just how totally wrong they are.

brazen fox
slate crescent
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like, if you stand on your head and squint, sure--the modern testing regiment for making sure most FDA-approved drugs are safe for humans does absolutely involve testing on the (100% pre-existing) fetal stem cell lines

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and if you stand on your head and squint, technically some abstract representation of LAION's dataset exists in the SD models, even if it is mixed and mushed all the way down to ~10 bytes per image

pine ore
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Would this be the right place to ask about DAAM? Really looking for as close to a laymen friendly guide on what it looks like in practice, and how I might get it up and running on my system. Using SD1.5

slate crescent
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obviously both cases involve huge leaps and tbqh misunderstanding of the core concepts to reach a point of indignation, but if someone wants to be mad, it's hard for anybody to stop them

slate crescent
pine ore
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Not sure I even have. I've been routed to this google research page that wants to install Python 3.1 and I'm just wondering if this is right at this point.

slate crescent
pine ore
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thank

slate crescent
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I'm not sure I understand what it is; what brought you to it?

lethal kiln
# brazen fox history tends to repeat itself I suppose- although I'm sure this wave of outrage...

Humans are territorial creatures. Grug no like agriculture, grug spent entire life learning to be hunter gatherer, farming make food abundant and cheap, grug think these farmers taking grug’s livelihood away, grug smash their crops, grug kill their farm animals, grug stay relevant because tribe no exist without grug.

Exactly, history does repeat itself, people who hate change are just discount anarcho primitivists.

lilac reef
dull hare
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i have a question please why does SD v2.1 doesn't work and always gives an error in auto1111 ?

pine ore
slate crescent
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tbqh, all the trolling that artists are going to lose their jobs and need to adapt is overblown; it's a bit like saying rifles made soldiers obsolete. AI imagery is 100x more powerful in the hands of an experienced digital art expert than someone like me who can merely spent 6 hours playing "the prompt game"

peak orchid
winter pike
lethal kiln
slate crescent
dull hare
slate crescent
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aka did Photoshop kill "painters"? etc

lethal kiln
dull hare
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is there any VAE files for SD v2.1 ?

pine ore
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Actually, follow up question as I'm trying to understand new lingo - Automatic1111, what in the world are we talking about here?

winter pike
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im starting to notice that every person that enter this server to throw a tantrum have the same Tumblr artstyle pfp

slate crescent
winter pike
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i dont know how to describe it but i have seen that artstyle in tumblr like a million times

barren mulch
lethal kiln
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Farming Threshers made owning Slaves obsolete

slate crescent
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technological leaps in fields that people don't actually want to work in, like staple crop farming, has traditionally led to fewer people having to work in them

pine ore
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Gotcha. Is that the standard GUI that is the default with SD1.5 then?

winter pike
slate crescent
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this is not as true for fields people actively want to work in, as well as fields like healthcare with unlimited demand

slate crescent
barren mulch
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AI is unstoppable at this point, laws won't change anything, if they ban it in the US or the EU, AI will develop in Russia or whatever and eventually come to the countries that banned it.
If you can't stop it, join it.

lethal kiln
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Right, they think they’re debating people who can just stop it, the genie is out of the bottle, it’s better to adapt our economy to automation with things such as UBI

slate crescent
lethal kiln
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Look at how many times they tried to shut down Pirate Bay, they couldn’t even do that, and it’s just a single website

peak orchid
barren mulch
dull hare
slate crescent
lethal kiln
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Police and Law Enforcement understand they can’t completely control the internet. Law Makers aren’t Cops

lethal kiln
barren mulch
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as long as there are great open source AIs like SD I'm happy about it

lethal kiln
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If they do go after AI (not just for art btw) it’s already a lost cause

barren mulch
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I don't want to see companies* like midjourney become monopolies

lethal kiln
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Open Source is what’s needed

winter pike
slate crescent
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A better phrasing might be "If Hollywood and all their billions + lawyers couldn't stop illegal activity on the internet, how are a couple illustrators with a kickstarter going to stop legal activity?"

strong moat
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Anyone else having issues with the new Automatic1111 update? Not working anymore

lethal kiln
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So it’s an even more impossible situation for the Anti AI crowd

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Indie Devs are going to be able to do a lot more, game studios will have time cut down on projects exponentially

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They really just can’t win, it is a lost cause. In the same way Hunter Gathering couldn’t compete with what Agriculture delivered

peak orchid
slate crescent
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UI and tech art is a harder nut to crack; there are possible gains, but our current experiments have produced nothing useful to productivity

lilac reef
lethal kiln
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The thing is, people always get reactionary to change when tech improves, it’s nothing new tbh.

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If you ask me we just need UBI and better wealth distribution from mass automation. That’ll solve most of the problem

slate crescent
lilac reef
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The time is coming, faster than people think, when all of us will do things because we want to NOT because we have to.

lilac reef
lethal kiln
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I don’t think ChatGPT is sentient in the least, but GPT4-5 are going to be mindblowing

lilac reef
lethal kiln
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In the near future we will have AGI like Assistants like Samantha from Her. Up until we merge with them with BCIs

lilac reef
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I just hope when the time comes where we are expected to merge we have off world colonies to move to or go find some other small planet to live on.

lethal kiln
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You could ask your Assistant to make you music, art, games and movies, so much more. I think the next step is to merge with them. Helios from Deus Ex was correct, the merge scenario is the best outcome

lilac reef
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I refuse to merge

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I will join the luddites as that should be a choice.

slate crescent
lethal kiln
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I think that should be a personal decision, I’m very Libertarian on that issue, if people want to stay Vanilla human I’m all for it

lilac reef
lilac reef
lethal kiln
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I see no harm in letting people decide what’s best for themselves

slate crescent
lethal kiln
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But it’s going to be a personal choice, I’m not for making that choice for others

lethal kiln
lilac reef
lethal kiln
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I can’t see why people couldn’t stay Vanilla Human, I don’t see a problem there personally

slate crescent
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all ethics and lawmaking is determining boundaries between people and their competing rights; it's always messy

lilac reef
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They will probably even say a risk to general health, and think of the children, and we are the government and we are here to help.

lethal kiln
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I am a Transhumanist/Posthumanist personally, but I respect people who want to stick to the old way.

I think when that time does come, we will have a world of abundance/zero marginal cost. People choosing not to have any kind of Transhuman tech don’t really pose a greater harm IMO

lilac reef
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all of those catch phrases are signals of ill intent

lethal kiln
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I think a Pandemic is kinda different, context does matter, and it’s a good thing for us to have these discussions

lilac reef
lethal kiln
lilac reef
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This is why I am not a Liberterian because they ideals would only work in a perfect world, and society and this world is far from perfect.

lethal kiln
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Still, if the time does come I will stand for peoples right to choose what they do with their body, as long as it isn’t directly harming another person.

brazen fox
lilac reef
vapid tangle
lethal kiln
# lilac reef Who makes that decision as to what is harming another? That is their escape cla...

A good system in my opinion would be to let AI represent everyone individually (like a personal digital representative), and then govern the world in a way that those people have access to a life they want, we could congregate on what constitutes freedom within ethical behaviour, such as the limits on harming another person and such, and from there on we could govern the world without a government with our AI representatives. It’d be a way to run the world without only a few in power

slate crescent
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at the risk of imposing rules on your persons, perhaps this transhuman libertarian discussion has veered outside the bounds of SD general chat and belongs in off topic or philosophy?

vapid tangle
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you either support bodily autonomy or u dont

lilac reef
lethal kiln
barren mulch
lethal kiln
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With BCIs we’d probably be beyond the need of governments by then

barren mulch
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most people's activities is work 9 to 5 bullshit job go home and watch netflix or scroll tiktok, rince and repeat for 20+ years

lethal kiln
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I think Full Dive VR will play a big role too, a lot of people would probably go live in their own Universes

barren mulch
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the owners of these AI will be able to manipulate the public opinion to basically whatver they want

lethal kiln
barren mulch
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google probably already have something like that

slate crescent
barren mulch
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but it doesn't have centuries of data yet

timid gate
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What are the chances that midjourney/niji gets leaked?

barren mulch
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pretty low but I hope it will happen

timid gate
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It would seem to me that if they are using data pools that include everyone that everyone should have access to them

barren mulch
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well yes and no, they did invest a lot of money into it

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it's a tricky question

lethal kiln
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Social Media is being extremely divisive

slate crescent
timid gate
barren mulch
lethal kiln
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That’s what the Patriot AI warned Raiden about

timid gate
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It's always done that

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Freedom of thought is limited

slate crescent
lethal kiln
slate crescent
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both sides spreading the message of the worst actors of the opposition unwittingly as they dunk o nthem

barren mulch
lethal kiln
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MGS2 literally predicted what would happen with the Internet.

timid gate
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Never agreed with the echo chambering and the division. But as individuals who think freely out thoughts are being kept from the public too so there is nothing we can do, really. It's the nature of our system IMO. The system is flawed

brazen fox
timid gate
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True

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There is no real need for people who go against the current thing. So we are censored

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Yup

slate crescent
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the older I get and the more people I interact with, the more I respect most people and reject the notion that I alone am some insightful genius who knows better. Condorcet was right, the collective median holds the wisdom of the individual.

lethal kiln
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Which is why interaction is important, locking people into different congregational ponds is a bad idea for society in the long run, because it makes them more tribalistic, this goes for both sides

timid gate
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Collective media is a fake. They want us to believe everyone is taking the blue pill, when in reality most people I talk about know the truth about things. Like Epstein's assassination and the establishments influence

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Not one person in my family believes their lies. The division only works if we believe it does

slate crescent
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"They"

timid gate
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Maybe we cannot rise because leaders will get immediately killed. But there is a silent revolution of thought currently happening

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You can't chain the human soul

slate crescent
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My brother in Christ, if it wasn't clear that literally no one is driving the bus at Twitter by now--

brazen fox
lethal kiln
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My hope is Humanity can stave off bloodshed and survive, I like to stay optimistic but it is true the path we are headed down Socially is concerning

slate crescent
# brazen fox I need to brush up on my philosophy

Condorcet is famous for Condorcet's Jury Theorem, the idea that there is accuracy in democracy. The notion that the majority of people are right a majority of the time, or phrased differently, that asking everyone's individual opinions gives a superior measure of the collective than any other means of one party assuming it.

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This is not strictly speaking populism, as it tends to be used in the context of deliberation.

north stirrup
brazen fox
slate crescent
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Condorcet is also associated with the similar "Condorcet criteria" or "Condorcet efficiency", the idea that any election system should be judged primarily by if it elects a winner who would beat every other candidate/option 1v1

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this tends to match most people's intuitions, for example "the strongest sports team is the one who is undefeated by any other"

bleak matrix
peak orchid
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But you can take the best MJ v4 outputs, train them into SD using embeddings or Dreambooth, and the result will be superior to MJ's results

brazen fox
slate crescent
# brazen fox Thanks for providing me a quick TL;DR 🙂 I'm going on a journey to 18th century ...

fun adjacent holes that might not be immediately presented:

Condorcet's rival was Admiral Borda, who invented the Borda Count (say, giving 5 points for 1st, 4 points for 2nd, 3 points for 3rd, etc.) and espoused a utilitarian philosophy on decision making. He supported this idea of overruling the majority directly if mathematical justification can be shown for it.

(In contrast with Condorcet and the American founding fathers he called friends, who believed the majority should always prevail at the ballot box, but that other mechanisms should keep this unlimited democracy in check--rule of law, independent judiciary, federalism, etc.)

brazen fox
slate crescent
brazen fox
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welp

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there goes my night

slate crescent
brazen fox
slate crescent
# brazen fox I still have to figure everything out as my caveman brain isn't really made for ...

If an example helps, here is an election where 3 candidates A B and C are spoiling each other, letting D win a plurality system like the one most places currently use. In a runoff election or approval voting, A is able to win. In a full ranked instant-runoff (or other procedure), the true rightful winner is found to be B. (https://www.chocolatepi.net/voteapp/?election=N0.2953349460991541&candidates=254,281,5,308,268,5,359,283,5,306,377,5)

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but, this has gotten well off-topic for SD general, apologies

reef epoch
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I WON A RAFFEEEL

slate crescent
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was it for a GPU?

reef epoch
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idk what i won technically but idk i won it

signal nest
feral cairn
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I wanted to install stable diffusion and went to install InvokeAI, midway installation and I find out I need at least 12 GB of available ram while I have only 7 GB

slate crescent
vivid portal
brazen fox
vivid portal
vivid portal
wicked jungle
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is there a way to combine 2 images?

signal nest
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"clip to figure out the embedding .. interpolate between them.."

fervent thunder
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Does anyone know when stable fusion is gonna support monster girls by chance? It seems to struggle with anything that isn't an ogre

flint crane
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Hi

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How do I leave this server

north stirrup
clear agate
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I don't - and am confused by some basic things: (i) how do I retrieve the seeds used in particular images? (ii) I've just been stopped from re-using the same prompt, but with a different CFG scale: how do I override that? Worth setting up an astria channel here?

young stratus
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Happy Holidays!

young ivy
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dont suppose anyone knows if there are any "cheap" (under 1000 euro) cards coming out in the future with like 48gb+ ram (not 4090 ti cause that aint gonna be under 1000) cause with how fast AI emerges, I have a hard time believing that theyre not jumping on it

mighty dust
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U better believe it. Why lower price for emerging market? If anything, ram price goes up with demand. Saw this happen with crypto, same gunna happen with AI

young ivy
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not if dedicated cards come out that do nothing but ai and they renew their range

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and nvidia better lower their costs or they'll never sell

pine fulcrum
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SD seems to have trouble putting things in hands, is there anyway to maybe try to focus on it when generating a piece?

vale badger
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whenever I install dreambooth to automatic1111 it gives me this error

"loaded_state_dict_keys = [k for k in state_dict.keys()]
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'keys'"

winter mason
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how do i download?

pine fulcrum
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Download what?

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The AI?

uneven wasp
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no, more vram

narrow sluice
sand badger
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is there a manual for mac?

brazen fox
old marten
uneven wasp
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lol a computationally weak but with excessive vram card is probably a better idea than it initially sounds like.

brazen fox
short tapir
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Where would I message to get help with an issue I'm having

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It's saying I'm out of memory but only when I try and use an image as a prompt?

viscid rune
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Hi guys, I recently trained my own model with my face
However whenever I use the model I always get images that looked like my source input images which I used as a dataset, even when I am not using my prompt, all the charactters looks somewhat like me now

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How do i fix this

golden nebula
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embedding over hypernetwork or model

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help me too plz, how do i show a progress bar on the "installing torch and torchvision" part of installing stable diffusion

fervent thunder
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Merry Christmas to all! I tell you from my heart, not like those chain messages that are only copied and pasted without seeing what is being sent. You are the best youth basketball team in all of Benavidez. A hug. Merry Christmas and Happy 2017🌲♥

young ivy
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I mean I even read several reports on it from several sites that say it will

mortal narwhal
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Instagram seems to contain a lot of images but doesn't seem it was used for training why

uneven wasp
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indexing and url permanence

young ivy
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oh wait it seems the 48gb was another titan class card they were working on, but abandoned or put on hold to release a different 4090 ti

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or no it's stilll coming my bad again

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there's....two different ones? how confusing they gotta make this

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alright it's the RTX6000 that's 48gb, now I get it. I wonder what it will cost

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but yeah that's like 7000, not 1000

dull mauve
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Where can I find instructions for use?

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I don't know English well and it's very hard to find

winter pike
dull mauve
winter pike
# dull mauve Russian

i cant speak russian but i will try to help you. Do you need help using the discord bot to generate images?

dull mauve
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I'm still at work so I can answer for a long time

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I want to know what features are there and how to manage them

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Stages, quantity, quality, generation time and the rest

bleak matrix
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Merry Christmas, everyone!

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How's it going, ya'll?

bleak matrix
# dull mauve Yes, I want to get instructions on all bot functions and how to impo them

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aHJ9RBt_vlCwJQBVUUsb7VghKB-wynv7WGTxm9ozL1k/edit?usp=drivesdk

Google Docs
FRIENDLY STABLE DIFFUSION GUIDE

FRIENDLY STABLE DIFFUSION GUIDE by Atypical Consortium / Sunny LAST UPDATED: 12/22/2022 Please note this document is a work in progress! Thanks for your patience in this matter! PLEASE ALSO NOTE I DO NOT OFFICIALLY SPEAK FOR STABILITY! THIS IS JUST ME, MYSELF, & I! Hello, and welcome to Sta...

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It's not 100% yet on all the functions but there's plenty of information there on the bot.

bleak matrix
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It's a fairly complicated process, but show us your phrasing, images, etc

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(Also, just change back to the original model.)

winter pike
# dull mauve Yes, I want to get instructions on all bot functions and how to impo them

Command "/dream" should always be added to start generating

Steps: default is 30, less steps means lower detail and more steps means higher details BUT it could give you unwanted details

cfg_scale: default is 7, a lower value than 7 = the ai will have more creative freedom cause it will ignore your prompt. A higher value than 7 = the ai will follow your prompt the best it can but can also give you very distorted results

Number: number of images youre going to generate

Those are the basics command and its probably enough

Example:

"/dream prompt: a house in the beach steps:30 cfg_scale:10 number:2"

dull mauve
winter pike
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you cant put images in bulk in discord, just one image at a time

dull mauve
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Midjorney

winter pike
dull mauve
peak orchid
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Apparently Karla Ortiz and the ACA plan to join the Copyright Alliance in 2023 in order to try and get Disney, Getty Images, and other large organizations to fight against AI art on their behalf.

modest escarp
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where can i find a working google colab for stable diffusion? i used to use it on there but the link i used is now very broken.

brazen fox
# peak orchid Apparently Karla Ortiz and the ACA plan to join the Copyright Alliance in 2023 i...

It is worth noting that Getty Images is not entirely against AI-aided creation. The company recently added features to its website courtesy of Bria, an Israeli firm that uses AI tools to edit artwork. This kind of AI work is what Peters views as ethical and responsible for the customer to use, drawing a clear line between his company’s ethos and that of Hennessy’s.
Of course, they're only against it when it's convenient, lol

bleak matrix
modest escarp
bleak matrix
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You can make images here in the Discord with the Dreambot

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I'm not too sure about a recent list on Colabs

modest escarp
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nah i don't want the restrictions

bleak matrix
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I don't know what Colabs still support what, since I don't use them.

modest escarp
bleak matrix
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Yeah, for Dreambooth

modest escarp
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same thing

bleak matrix
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That's why I asked if you meant training

modest escarp
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yeah and i said no

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ugh it used to be "just click colab link and type in what you want" and now nooooothing works

bleak matrix
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The links that you just linked are for training and for Clip Interrogator.

modest escarp
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i now realize that

muted skiff
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is there a crowd-sourced website where I can search for gens by model, and get their prompt? I have an obscure model, I want to see what other people made with it, and how

bleak matrix
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More than likely, for whatever web ui you're used to, you can find their colab on git

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(I'll look and see)

modest escarp
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is there any site that you can upload an image to and use stable diffusion to extend the borders?

bleak matrix
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Yeah, you can do outpainting.

modest escarp
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yeah

bleak matrix
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DreamStudio supports it. A lot of local webui's support it

modest escarp
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can't be local, despite having a good gpu my internet is below dial up speed, alot of the time under 100kb/s

bleak matrix
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(They usually have Colabs, so you will probably find them there)

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What were you using before?

modest escarp
bleak matrix
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Then I would suggest Googling them and finding a new Colab

modest escarp
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i tried that multiple times :(

bleak matrix
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Try 1.5

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Or here in the server for 1.5

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There's a list of Colabs on Reddit

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You might find something there

winter pike
modest escarp
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i have like 100 google accounts it's fine

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dreamstudio seems fine for now anyway

leaden quest
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Merry Xmas to everyone. Gonna give my opinion about the recent events. First thanks for SD, really. Second, Emad dude, I think you were wrong and I know prob. its not your fault but you never and never should have believed and listened to Karla Ortiz and her group. They were gonna attack ANY AI baseset even without artist name in prompts and or words. .. so... SD never should have been reset from the Ground base and IMO you should have avoid any point with anti AI team in a discussion or even better, make dataset private (yes, this was the best choice as MJ did to protect itself).. You can give opting out option since they wont care. They don't want anything other than $. Their next step is to COPYRIGHT STYLES, yeah, you heard it. Joining copyright alliance with Disney along others. Nuts.

Its a lost battle except if they change the law and all point to it. A law where styles too close to "x" being acted legally. This is censorship in caps and if they do this it will be a war between all Artists since styles are adaptative from eras and change-able through time and inspiration... thats my opinion but all above are things that happened or happening. Dangerous grounds.

modest escarp
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how many images can i make with dream studio for free @bleak matrix

bleak matrix
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It really just depends on your settings.

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But you can make as many images as you want with the bot right now for free.

frank moon
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Are there any good models for life like charcoal and/or pencil sketches? Similar to the stuff you see people making in pads at museums in movies.

brazen fox
fervent chasm
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if I'm trying my face into SD should I be training embedding or hypernetworks? or can anyone provide a good source to explain what each is good for?

plucky musk
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hi guys, anyone can help me? I'm trying to use image to image to prompt my black and white images to have colour

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i've tried stuffing the prompt like colour_list = ['color gradient', 'warm colors', 'rainbow color', 'recolor', 'color pallete', 'psychadelic colors', 'bright color']

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but its still almost always black and white

north stirrup
sonic carbon
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could someone run a gigapixel upscale for me?

worldly quest
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Hi everyone, I’m new to AI generated art. I’ve tried a few engines including the publicly available version of stable diffusion. However no matter what the prompt is, I don’t think creating some of the perfect arts shared by the community here is achievable. Wondering what are the extra steps you take to generate such stunning images. Some pointers to send me down the rabbit hole would suffice. Thanx!

gusty glacier
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One major pointer: Ask the anime chat or somewhere you enjoy the artwork of

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The shadoing and shading of some arts to raise quality are founded by their models or just by their experience with 'upscaling'

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So if you learn how to upscale from them, you're gg

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any shitty photo generated can be at least 10x better sometimes

brazen fox
gleaming lotus
# worldly quest Hi everyone, I’m new to AI generated art. I’ve tried a few engines including the...

Hey, agree with the others replied to you but don't get too easy disappointed, thats how we all start and we don't get always the results we want to see. Start with 1 model, same prompt , use all the samplers by one and see how they react, repeat it with more settings. Repeat with other model start trying again all samplers. Try to learn what are the things there etc. Just play it and explore it 😄

sonic carbon
fervent chasm
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if I'm trying my face into SD should I be training embedding or hypernetworks? or can anyone provide a good source to explain what each is good for?

worldly quest
# sonic carbon what outputs are you getting now?

Just trying out and see what’s possible. The outputs I’m getting are not too bad, but they have the general known issues, eg defects in the face or unrealistic limbs. But now I have a new things to try. Thanks for the pointers everyone!

gleaming lotus
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Try same prompts with and without negative

mental lagoon
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hi there, I've been playing around with SD 2.1 and I've been really liking it so far. I found this AI art Instagram that's been uploading really creepy and realistic photos that I have no idea what prompts they use to replicate the style? I used photography, high details and a few negative prompts to prevent 3d renders, but it's still not close. Any tips?

gleaming lotus
mental lagoon
somber dagger
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Damn
Samdoesarts on the attack of ai art too now. Never even seen the dude in my recommendeds before

lavish current
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Went on IG for the first time in a while today and it made me realize I still need to make an AI art account

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Also reminds me I've been using AI software to make art for over a year now

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Was November last year when I started using generated.photos to make portraits

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Just need to find a model + prompts close enough to my style so I can mix it up with some of my own art sometimes

drowsy robin
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I went and bought an Intel GPU. Pretty sure it can't run SD yet but eitherway.

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🤷‍♂️

fervent thunder
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how is it for games dan

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I heard they were pretty solid

drowsy robin
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I don't have it yet lmao I ordered it.

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I bought the A770 though.

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Probably wont be using it for up to 3 months after that as well

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This is mainly due the fact that despite having the GPU ordered, I have other parts to order so that my PC is much more up to date.

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Basically doing a full replacement of hardware at this point.

fervent thunder
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nice

drowsy robin
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From 6700k to 13600k, and from 1060 to a770.

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(The 6700k doesn't support rebar)

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I know of the drawbacks of this GPU for now.

fervent thunder
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dont you need a new mobo?

drowsy robin
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Indeed I do

fervent thunder
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for that cpu upgrade

drowsy robin
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As I said, a total replacement

fervent thunder
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oh gotcha

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everything but the case huh

drowsy robin
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Yep. Case is a mid-tower. No need to replace that.

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New CPU, GPU, RAM, and PSU.

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Same case.

stone mica
# fervent chasm if I'm trying my face into SD should I be training embedding or hypernetworks? o...

so someone with experience training will probably give you a better answer about hypernetworks since I only rly know a little about embeddings and dreambooth models, but one thing thats nice about embeddings is they're literally like 30-150kb files, and can be used in prompts just by using the name of the embedding file, no need to switch models or change settings, means you can get really creative with multiple ones too.

I think embeddings are technically supposed to be the worst/most limited though, BUT, I've noticed every single SD 2.0/2.1 embedding I've tried has been consistently amazing. often getting similar quality results to Dreambooth models I used in 1.5, from a 60kb file instead of a 2GB model

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so I feel like if I can get training working with just my 8GB VRAM (or go ahead and use a collab or something) I will default to embeddings and only switch to hypernetworks or dreambooth models if I'm unable to get good results from the embedding

broken pollen
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Love 8s per iteration

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Just lovely

pine fulcrum
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any advice for cleaning up images while having 0 artistic experience?

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check the channel; below for context

white niche
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@wise stratus or any one else about, what is the best way for the community to contribute for datasets? Since there are so much negative emotions and also artists wanting to opt out. There are so many high quality Creative Commons and public domain images and artwork that obviously didn’t make it into the training. Is there a way for the community to contribute towards if using these images? Hosting on hugging face? Or any other way? Thanks!

broken pollen
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Love it when the diffusion takes 18gb of ram which 16 she physical and 8gb of vram

olive thunder
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Hi, I am new to image gen. I want to use this tech for a card game. Is it possible to generate images of a single character doing many different actions? For example, I find / train a model of a style I like and then generate a character with it, can I then make that model generate only images of that character? Or another example, if I have multiple different characters, can I make the model generate images with all of the characters on them? I want the looks to be consistent across all the images. But I am not sure if I can "store" such context into a model.

Some directions about this would be very appreciated

winter pike
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it is possible to train multiple characters in the same model but i havent tried yet

olive thunder
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Thanks! So my best shot at this would be to give a very precise prompt to an already existing model and hope that it generates a couple of similar looking images and then train my own model with those?

winter pike
kindred sage
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this LOAB stuff is mad weird

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i just got a loab generation

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using Euler A

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why does LOAB happen

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this same lady

unborn elm
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Hey, does anyone know a better/similar AI to Different Dimension Me? Where I can pose whatever image I want and turn it into an anime character?

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Bc they updated it to only recognize human faces

clever mountain
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Hey anyone know where the option to upload an image is for the img2img local Stable Diffusion?

lavish edge
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I feel like I'm overlooking something when it comes to Dreambooth model training, I can train with a set of 10 or 20 source images and generating 100 classifier comparison images, but a prompt including the trained prompt input still consistently outputs crap that doesn't resemble training source data at all

kindred sage
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what version of stable diffusion are you guys running, my computer can't handle 2.1 😦

midnight yacht
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Will it be possible for ChatGPT type of intelligence for Stable Diffusion's generation so it can produce consistent styles and results with simpler prompts?

kindred sage
long marten
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Is it possible to get an alpha channel transparency using Automatic?

uneven wasp
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I think the default model only has support for 3 channel (rgb) inputs. What do you need it for? You could probably reverse engineer the semantic masking to use that as an alpha mask if it helps

long marten
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I'm trying to make some proxy textures for particle systems, game fx stuff

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so far "on a black background" has been pretty good for color keying

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I'll post in general-with-images

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but yeah I could totally see myself making brush alphas for painting with this if I can consistently get a good color key or alpha 😄

hushed edge
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I’ve heard about some artists starting a “fair compensation fund” for other artists who have lost their jobs to ai. It’s ridiculous to think artists are losing their jobs. Sure it may be easy to use ai, but a human will almost always be needed. Do you think they will go through with it?

long marten
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that's not how the free market works

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you get paid if there is work to do. If there is no work to do, or far less work to do, you get laid off