1x1 - Single Floor 4 Lane Painter - Stackable to 1x1 12 Lane Painter with a nice layout

[astral hinge]

Blueprint Infos :

Version : 1095 / 0.0.7, Blueprint type : Platform, Blueprint cost : 800, Platform unit cost : 2
Building count : 172, Building size : 15x16x1, Building tiles : 188
Platform count : 1, Platform size : 1x1, Platform tiles : 1
Icons : Number4, PlayerLevel, Number4, building.PainterDefaultVariant

[midnight hearth]

This is perfect, even with a row to spare, amazing work! 💪

[lime fjord]

is this not pipe-limitted?

i’m not sure if the rules for pipes and throughput limitations are similar for belts, but this looks like it would be bottlenecked to only allow the throughout of 6 painters

(i can’t tell if the photo is taken at steady state)

[cerulean field]

pipes seem to work kinda weird, a single pipe can transport 4.8 fluid launchers worth of fluid, so with enough input launchers it could supply 19 painters (why the extra 0.8? no idea)

[unkempt spear]

thanks man I got inspired by your design, got me to think in a different way than what I was onto to unstuck myself !

[unkempt spear]

the photo is taken in a steady state and it will deliver the full belt flow on all 4 belts, pipes can carry way more than belts

BTW : in the linked BP the bottom belts are made symmetrical to the upper ones

[lime fjord]

i just tried it out. it works great. ty

[midnight hearth]

This time I got inspired by your revolutionary approach and made a more compact version:

All we're aiming for now is straightening routes, reducing building count/bp cost to make it as efficient & cheap as possible. Multiple colour channels as still very unlikely (colour input only on one side). At this point we're reaching an ideal state, thanks to you! 🤝

[astral hinge]

Blueprint Infos :

Version : 1095 / 0.0.7, Blueprint type : Platform, Blueprint cost : 2,805, Platform unit cost : 2
Building count : 450, Building size : 15x16x3, Building tiles : 498
Platform count : 1, Platform size : 1x1, Platform tiles : 1
Icons : building.PainterDefaultVariant, toolbar.buildings.category-building-toolbar.category-Decorations, <empty>, <empty>

[queen bronze]

noice

[unkempt spear]

Fantastic teamwork 🔥

also still no cursed jumps that's a +

[unkempt spear]

Oh i see what I missed, the 1 bloc lateral offset between the top and bottom part

[lime fjord]

i think the only other optimization here is to minimize BP point cost for higher difficulties

but this looks pretty optimal

[devout sand]

Bro casually dropped the greatest painting blueprint I’ve ever seen

[unkempt spear]

wait till you see what i'm cooking

[devout sand]

Stop I’ll die 😭

[unkempt spear]

nah honestly i'm trying stuff but it's not working yet haha

[devout sand]

Real

Me when using painters in general

[unkempt spear]

had a super great one but it required paint from both sides

[devout sand]

I see

[unkempt spear]

there was just one tiny space in the middle missing for a pipe to go through

i destroyed it lmao

i will redo it for you

i don't think its bringing anything new tbh

ping

but it totally got a central symmetry 😏

[midnight hearth]

It does, yeah it's mostly variations of your new genius principle. I wonder if it can be applied/repurposed in other areas...

[lime fjord]

after this, the main other painter to be made is one that flips the ports

so fluid and input solids can be on opposite sides

[unkempt spear]

T shape with input on top and exit bottom ?

[unkempt spear]

well, i've been trying for 3 hours and nothing new comes up to my mind

[astral hinge]

Blueprint Infos :

Version : 1095 / 0.0.8, Blueprint type : Platform, Blueprint cost : 669, Platform unit cost : 2
Building count : 150, Building size : 15x16x1, Building tiles : 166
Platform count : 1, Platform size : 1x1, Platform tiles : 1
Icons : Platforms, <empty>, <empty>, {RuRuRuRu}
Actions :
[View in 3D]

Blueprint Infos :

Version : 1095 / 0.0.8, Blueprint type : Platform, Blueprint cost : 704, Platform unit cost : 2
Building count : 156, Building size : 15x16x1, Building tiles : 172
Platform count : 1, Platform size : 1x1, Platform tiles : 1
Icons : Platforms, <empty>, <empty>, {RuRuRuRu}
Actions :
[View in 3D]

Blueprint Infos :

Version : 1095 / 0.0.8, Blueprint type : Platform, Blueprint cost : 681, Platform unit cost : 2
Building count : 152, Building size : 15x16x1, Building tiles : 168
Platform count : 1, Platform size : 1x1, Platform tiles : 1
Icons : Platforms, <empty>, <empty>, {RuRuRuRu}
Actions :
[View in 3D]

Blueprint Infos :

Version : 1095 / 0.0.8, Blueprint type : Platform, Blueprint cost : 681, Platform unit cost : 2
Building count : 152, Building size : 15x16x1, Building tiles : 168
Platform count : 1, Platform size : 1x1, Platform tiles : 1
Icons : Platforms, <empty>, <empty>, {RuRuRuRu}
Actions :
[View in 3D]

[unkempt spear]

Couldn't find anything better than this. This is the most optimized for now !!

[blazing drift]

ker

[midnight hearth]

The last one might be the smallest in terms of footprint (if shifted towards the fluid input by one 😉 ), you'd have a row & column to spare!

However, the BP cost is solely based on building count:
ceil((building_count-1)^1.3)

At a building count of 149 (in my version 1 pipe is superfluous) the cheapest cost rn is around 663 (1 floor).

[unkempt spear]

indeed 🙂

[idle ivy]

pper

[feral elm]

I was able to shave off a couple of buildings on each layer making the blueprint slightly cheaper.

[astral hinge]

Blueprint Infos :

Version : 1095 / 0.0.8, Blueprint type : Platform, Blueprint cost : 2,733, Platform unit cost : 2
Building count : 441, Building size : 15x16x3, Building tiles : 489
Platform count : 1, Platform size : 1x1, Platform tiles : 1
Icons : Platforms, building.PainterDefaultVariant, <empty>, Number3

[astral hinge]

Blueprint Infos :

Version : 1095 / 0.0.8, Blueprint type : Platform, Blueprint cost : 2,708, Platform unit cost : 2
Building count : 438, Building size : 14x16x3, Building tiles : 486
Platform count : 1, Platform size : 1x1, Platform tiles : 1
Icons : building.PainterDefaultVariant, <empty>, <empty>, <empty>

[feral elm]

Oh nice find!

To beat is now 144 per floor.

[lime fjord]

you might be able to reduce the count a bit more with a launcher on the far right

as every launcher setup saves 4 units if it properly replaces a straight line

[feral elm]

But then you would skip the painter.

[lime fjord]

downstream of the painter

it might only save 1 building, after accounting for the overhead of the extra belting

[pearl copper]

yall are honestly crazy with these optimizations

[lime fjord]

it’s just a crazy BP

[pearl copper]

yeah but yall are taking the crazy bp and shaving off buildings like its nothing

[lime fjord]

usually V1 just tries to get everything hooked up, which is the hard part. Minor alterations given the space is easy in comparison.

[pearl copper]

I suppose

[lime fjord]

darg0 is the real MVP

(not to belittle other people’s contributions)

i sketched it out, and the launcher replacement I proposed does not help. 🤷‍♂️

[pearl copper]

do you count the launchers for input and output as buildings per floor?

[feral elm]

this

[lime fjord]

i would expect so, but removing those isn’t realistic

they are effectively a guaranteed part of the BP

[feral elm]

yes, its part of the bp

[pearl copper]

okay so the best currently is 146 per floor?

[lime fjord]

144

after jupiter

obviously more optimization reduces symmetry

OP had 172/floor, with high symmetry

[pearl copper]

yeah

I dont think you can remove more than this

[lime fjord]

it might be possible to shave off like 1-2 belts, but will definitely increase the spaghetti factor

[pearl copper]

Yall have dropped nearly 30 buildings

in 3 days

[lime fjord]

i will say there is stil one major BP like this which remains

which is a variant with the two solid in/outputs being adjacent

[pearl copper]

ok

[lime fjord]

i made one as a 1x2, but based on this thread, I’m pretty sure it will be possible to do 1x1

[midnight hearth]

While I'm firmly certain 144 will remain for a while, let's expand with a new oppposite Inputs variant (it also doubles as a 'curved output' variant if belts/painters are reversed):

Still in its infancy, it's a proof of concept with mixed outputs but stackable:

[astral hinge]

Blueprint Infos :

Version : 1095 / 0.0.8, Blueprint type : Platform, Blueprint cost : 3,378, Platform unit cost : 2
Building count : 519, Building size : 15x16x3, Building tiles : 567
Platform count : 1, Platform size : 1x1, Platform tiles : 1
Icons : building.PainterDefaultVariant, <empty>, <empty>, <empty>

[sterile phoenix]

Damn it. I tried to make it whole day.

[lime fjord]

For a lot of these hyper-optimized BPs, I forsee the next steps to really be different orientations of in/out ports

[compact lantern]

I'd really like to see a 1x1 24-12 stacker with the two inputs next to each other instead of opposite for easier chaining of stacking operations

[feral elm]

I suspect that is impossible.

[tawny python]

everyone's mission in this channel is to 1x1-ify every full belt building island

[sterile phoenix]

Everything seems impossible until it's done.
Who knows what new instruments we'll get until 1.0. For example, adjustable launchers.

[tawny python]

best crystalizer i saw is a 1x2
best stacker i found is a 1x1 side output

[tawny python]

who ghost pinged me

[tawny python]

'who ghost reacted me'

[unkempt spear]

you're giving me too much credits haha, anyone would have figured that out in the end ! i could not come up with the later improvments you guys had even though i spent an entire evening on it lmao

[bronze wasp]

this is currently my favorite blueprint I've seen! It's just so pretty and perfect. I use it everywhere! 😄

[unkempt spear]

glad you like it !

[viscid turret]

r

[coral lagoon]

Where is the 1x1 side output stacker

[unkempt spear]

👀 👀 👀

i think I did smthing

lots of jump collisions but i don't think we can do this without

[unkempt spear]

look at this

[feral elm]

I believe this is 1 building more per layer than hybrids design.

But I can already see a building that can be removed.

nvm

[unkempt spear]

hybrid made an adjacent shapes input/output design ?

[feral elm]

Oh sorry I didnt realise they were different input/outputs.

[unkempt spear]

yeah that's a new layout !!

[feral elm]

Nice design then!

but I do see a way to save a building lol

move the launcher on the far right one square south.

and reroute the belts

[unkempt spear]

yeah there must be a lot

[feral elm]

I dont know. Looks close to optimal for this painter layout. Maybe some shuffling of the painters can shave off another few buildings.

[astral hinge]

Blueprint Infos :

Version : 1095 / 0.0.8, Blueprint type : Platform, Blueprint cost : 800, Platform unit cost : 2
Building count : 172, Building size : 15x16x1, Building tiles : 188
Platform count : 1, Platform size : 1x1, Platform tiles : 1
Icons : building.PainterDefaultVariant, PlayerLevel, ArrowDown, ArrowRight

[unkempt spear]

Opposite inputs

[astral hinge]

Blueprint Infos :

Version : 1095 / 0.0.8, Blueprint type : Platform, Blueprint cost : 788, Platform unit cost : 2
Building count : 170, Building size : 15x16x1, Building tiles : 186
Platform count : 1, Platform size : 1x1, Platform tiles : 1
Icons : Number1, PlayerLevel, ArrowRight, ArrowLeft

[unkempt spear]

ok wait i just figured out what Hybrid said, opposite inputs can turn into curved if you juste reverse the belts 🤦‍♂️

[unkempt spear]

i took that one down to 165

[unkempt spear]

164 now

[lime fjord]

Good job

[verbal knoll]

[unkempt spear]

No mixed output - Shapes from the same belt, exit on the same belt, order is different at the exit though

[astral hinge]

Blueprint Infos :

Version : 1095 / 0.0.8, Blueprint type : Platform, Blueprint cost : 812, Platform unit cost : 2
Building count : 174, Building size : 15x16x1, Building tiles : 190
Platform count : 1, Platform size : 1x1, Platform tiles : 1
Icons : PlayerLevel, <empty>, building.PainterDefaultVariant, toolbar.islands.island-layout.Layout_RailNode

[unkempt spear]

(easily goes to 170)

[rotund spear]

Also this makes for clean train painters

[compact lantern]

you can still do designs like that with the adjacent inputs variant by just moving the unpainted shapes train to unload from the bottom instead of left side. it stays the same overall size

but it is nice to have more options depending on what fits best in a specific area