Soulframe Preludes 14: The Duelo Hotfix 3

[calm jungle]

Changes

• Runes are now activated by pressing the Spectral Sight + Heavy Attack inputs.
  Note: Bow Runes activated with Spectral Sight + Heavy Attack will charge the bow with a regular Shot, rather than the alternative fire (e.g., Arrow Rain), while you have a Rune charge.
• Re-worked the rewards pools from Midrath’s Sieges.
  The Siege of Curlail
• S Rank: Hurlwind, Emberaught, Alca’s Breath, 6x River Pearls, 6x Sappheline.
• A Rank: Hurlwind, Emberaught, Alca’s Breath, 4x River Pearls, 4x Sappheline.
• B Rank: Hurlwind, Emberaught, Alca’s Breath, 2x River Pearls, 2x Sappheline.
  The Siege of Fort Kearnhold
• S Rank: Dewelion, 6x Moranite, Everflame (Long Blade and Greatsword)
• A Rank: Dewelion, 4x Moranite, Everflame (Long Blade and Greatsword)
• B Rank: Dewelion, 2x Moranite, Everflame (Long Blade and Greatsword)
  The Siege of Mirifuir
• All ranks: Silistavf, Dewelion, Espadarte, Archstorm
• As part of our ongoing review of Siege rewards, equipment earned from a Siege should now better support progression while making completion rewards feel more fairly distributed. Stronger performances in Sieges are more likely to award higher-rarity equipment or rarer resources in greater quantities. These changes are intended to help Envoys feel tangibly stronger, while ensuring each reward remains attainable regardless of performance. Thank you for your patience this week as we continue iterating to find the best feeling for Sieges!
• Espadarte Fragments can be acquired from shipwreck duels after completing The Wreck Of Mestra Carmo.
• The Journal’s Foes entries are now sorted by scanned progress.
• Added portraits to Ancestor/character entries while viewed in the Journal.

Fixes

• Fixed various Pact Passives not functioning properly, such as:
  Ode Tempest’s “Gravitate.”
  Sirin’s “Pickpocket.”
  Oscelda’s “Vernal Pool.”
  Bromius’ “Barkbare.”
• Fixed Lyke-Wake Fragments not dropping from the emerging Lyke-Wake wielding Mendicant foes in the Fallen Skytower.
• Fixed various issues while playing The Torment Stag.
  Fixed Clients never receiving a Rune for absorbing Fenn Jotar after leaving the Dermak Undercity in The Torment Stag.
  Fixed the Spirit Guide not properly guiding the Envoy towards Fenn Jotar.
  Fixed Clients being unable to use Spectral Sight on Fenn Jotar in The Torment Stag.
  Fixed missing objective UI after absorbing Fenn Jotar in The Torment Stag.
  Fixed missing objective UI after acquiring the Totem in The Torment Stag.
• Fixed an input delay while attempting to use a Spectre Strike following a perfect dodge.
• Fixed the Dermak Undercity sometimes unintentionally having areas with no combatants.
• Fixed the “Sympathy” Pact Art not healing the Envoy after pulling a dead enemy’s Smite.
• Fixed a number of Envoys never receiving their Duelo Fragment while playing The Wreck Of Mestra Carmo.
• Fixed being unable to complete the Journal entry for Mockeries.

+Many more on the Forums: https://forums.soulframe.com/topic/10939-soulframe-preludes-14-the-duelo-hotfix-3/

[wooden arch]

🐾

[gray field]

🎊

[solid canopy]

YAY

[hallow rock]

BY THE FIRES OF MORA 🔥 🔥 🔥

[pale ibex]

Please remove pickpocket, no resource skills. That said, thank you! ❤️

[fleet valve]

So I spent three months farming for Dewelion and now it is basically "free". GAH! Anyway, I like that

[oak depot]

Yesss, Gravitate 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[errant delta]

Good stuff

[mighty knoll]

"Fixed the “Sympathy” Pact Art not healing the Envoy after pulling a dead enemy’s Smite."
YES. FINALLY.

[heavy sage]

YESSS THANK THE LORD I CAN USE MY AVEX PROPERLY

[rose patio]

interesting new rune input

[mighty knoll]

Does this mean Sympathy finally works on the Mockeries?!

[indigo pollen]

[cobalt vigil]

"Runes are now activated by pressing the Spectral Sight + Heavy Attack inputs." - this is so bad for bows

[wheat crown]

How so?

[lucid gale]

[raw veldt]

FINALLY SYMPATHY ON DEAD SMITES!!!

[mighty knoll]

...So I just pulled a dead enemy's smite with sympathy unlocked and it didn't heal me ;-;

[sacred sequoia]

Woo! Come for the fixed Lyke-Wake, stay for the various other things fixed that were bugging us! Thanks, DE!

[half sail]

Sympathy on dead enemies and spectral strike delay fixed already? Spectacular!

[lean elbow]

Anyone on to confirm if you can change/rebind the keybinds for the new runes activation input?

I'm at work still or I'd check

[cobalt vigil]

huh?

[cobalt vigil]

too many inputs at the same time

on mnk

[wheat crown]

Same inputs as melee, no?

Q plus middle mouse

[heavy sage]

how does that work on controller

[cobalt vigil]

with melee you don't aim

I will, all day

[wheat crown]

Oh, right aiming

[lean elbow]

Left trigger and right trigger

[heavy sage]

so for the avex, i assume the melee attack has to land for the rune to activate?

[sacred sequoia]

Whatever you've got bound to. I have soul mode bound to left bumper.

[inland cargo]

Can we maybe get some stats on the blue ribbon? Or some other way to duel Mestra? Taking a 20+ armor hit feelsbad. I crii every tiem.

[misty bolt]

"Fixed the “Sympathy” Pact Art not healing the Envoy after pulling a dead enemy’s Smite." legit thought this to be intentional

[heavy sage]

cause i have spectral on left trig, and heavy is right trig

pushing both does the melee attack but doesnt use the rune

[wheat crown]

It should be doing a normal bow shot when you activate the combo

Avex might have a bug due to the unique heavy

[drowsy oak]

Thank You

[heavy sage]

yeah avex is bugged

it works on blitzel and juniper

[crude ice]

yeah I'm a bit confused about the bow change. I activate soul mode (LB for me), then try to charge a shot (RT normal, RB arrow hail)....and nada. No rune charge used. On maestro.

[heavy sage]

i aim first, then pull both triggers at the same time and it activates the rune until i shoot

[grave flame]

CLEANN patch :))

[crude ice]

ah i got it! wasn't using the rune because pull smite was already bound to the same key i would've used for a heavy. I swapped the binding for pull smite from RB to RT, and the runes now work like a charm on the bow

[mighty knoll]

It's also not consistently fixed :/

Smite in general seems to be one of the buggiest aspects of this game ngl

[heavy sage]

at least bows can use charged shots without wasting smite

[calm jungle]

For known issues: Avex is currently not activating on Spectral Sight + Heavy Attack. Should have a fix inbound for a later Hotfix!

[mighty knoll]

Sympathy isn't consistently activating on dead enemy pull smites, but I'll take that over it never doing it lol

[heavy sage]

yeah i guess it would just have to carry over the affect of overriding the heavy attack/arrow hail to charge the shot with the rune

[worn cedar]

3 ?

[heavy sage]

oh deer

[dreamy forge]

Mirifuir still about one-shotting them or be one-shotted

[heavy sage]

are you wearing the 1 ply toilet paper armor

[past falcon]

why dewellion rapier but no rapier throw or take out/put away animations

[rare kiln]

read

[echo sail]

auto-charm now makes you sit through the animation, is that intended/

[barren folio]

lyke-wake still isnt dropping

[low sandal]

about add damn nothing about lyke and wake lol

[wheat crown]

As a reminder folks, the Lyke Wake fix is that ALL knights in the dungeon will drop it now, so make sure to change your farming strats accordingly!

The individual drop rates per kill haven't changed at all with this hotfix.

[low sandal]

haha damn better keep trying guys

[crisp depot]

well the spoil says "MAY" become charm so i was expecting it not being a secure charm all the time

[echo sail]

it is still not a guaranteed chance, im saying the animation for a perfect capture is now appearing after it

was not in previous patch

[woven plank]

nice

[dreamy forge]

sprinting rune activation key number is increasing each day

[misty bolt]

it is indeed 😮

[low sandal]

the change to rune attack is good i like it

[silver totem]

Thank you DE team 😁 HotFix 3

[sage quartz]

Could you guys add Gossamer Quartz in there for siege completions or...... Somewhere other than Avakot? Please? Pretty please?

Even just to Curlail rewards. Would be a good reason to run it more often.

[silver totem]

Great suggestion! Goasdmer quartz rewards alongside moranite - crafting be abit smoother

[sage quartz]

Was my thought! I can get Sappheline and Moranite fairly easily in slow quantities. Gossamer seems like such a troll of a material!

[echo sail]

anyone get espadarte from duels yet?

[gritty peak]

Runes are not activating with 'Avex' bow.
RIP.
It seems like a bug specific to Avex, as its heavy attack is just a standard swing rather than Arrow Hail.

bow rune. it forces an exit from zoom, and having to juggle aiming, movement, Spectral Sight, and heavy attack... forcing the use of three buttons with just the left hand is just terrible control design.

[trail herald]

yoinking souls from enemies that have already died sadly do NOT recover hp despite the node being skilled 🙁

[silver totem]

That's been fixed in the HotFix

[silver totem]

Avex isn't activating runes - it's a known issue atn

[silver totem]

Indeed - adding these materials to sieges additional to rive pearls would be ideal as rewards too

[gritty peak]

Using Pull Smite on the souls left after a mob dies doesn't restore rune charges, and the Pact passive healing doesn't trigger either.
not fixed. I didn't checked with other weapons but pull smite (after mob death) not working with bow.

[silver totem]

The mechanic throw seems unique to the Nevahla Rapier

[silver totem]

Hmm usually pullsmites restore on enemies glowing rather than after they die

[silver totem]

Thanks Cowboy 🤠 looking forward to the HotFix - this fix is dope 😎 Ty Ty

[mild onyx]

• Runes are now activated by pressing the Spectral Sight + Heavy Attack inputs.

This doesn't work on controllers guys...what am I supposed to do?

[cinder tangle]

not a good idea guys to many buttons why not let with heavy attack ? thats a bad decision]

[gritty peak]

pull smites restore on glowing soul. not dead body. so status of enemies doesn't matter.

[ionic robin]

Did you rebind Attack? I swapped heavy and normal attack on my controller and had to swap back (so heavy is on the R trigger instead of R button which is pull smite) to make it work.

[silver totem]

Could be due to some pullsmites rather than all?

[ionic robin]

Would love to be able to bind Rune Attack on controllers using the Spectral Sight binding menu instead of having it default to normal mode heavy.

[gritty peak]

Its works before P14. and broken with hotfix.

[mild onyx]

Yeah, I did the same...sigh I just wish they'd give controller full rebinding like with M&K, controller rebinding feels so limiting in comparison. this isn't as bad in WF because of steam's controller support to bypass it, but this is an alpha after all

[ionic robin]

It definitely needs work. I'm moving Smite Pull to the R trigger so I don't have to relearn normal combat as much. That seems to work too.

[mild onyx]

I'll try that out and get back to you

[grim moat]

WOOOO FINALLY

[trail herald]

thats what the patchnots say. theres a reason i comented it here 😅 it doesnt work in my game, i noticed

[strong crater]

Do we know why Dewellion is a rapier but has almost no rapier animations besides guarding?

[vital storm]

Absolute peak. I wasnt expecting these changes so fast.

[gritty peak]

Same. I double checked 1 min ago.
pull smite proc (rune charge, heal) not working after enemies death. even glowing soul still exist.

[sage quartz]

Work in progress I'm sure

[trail herald]

the rune charge also doesnt trigger for you? i had full charges so i didnt notice, but before the hotfix i got the charges from dead enemy souls

[gritty peak]

works if enemy still alive.
not working if enemy already dead.
It worked regardless of whether the mob was dead or alive before p14.

[strong crater]

I hope so, it looks so cool and I hope it gets its justice

[languid patrol]

"Fixed the “Sympathy” Pact Art not healing the Envoy after pulling a dead enemy’s Smite." THIS IS HUGE HELLO??

"Fixed the “Scholar’s Charm” Orlick upgrade not rewarding Harmony when activated." This too OMG

[gritty peak]

rushed hotfix 😂

[vital storm]

Still think sirins passives need to be completely reworked considering how pickpocket provides no benefits you couldn't get by just killing the enemy(and a pickpocketed enemy no longer drops loot i think), but having it actually work now is cool.

[trail herald]

wbut it isnt fixed 😅 it doesnt work for me

[trail herald]

the benefit used to be a guaranteed drop, which made thawtide event very easy to get all gear day 1. idk if that was nerfed in p13/now tho

[crude ice]

Is the Mora's Hand pact now bugging for people with the latest change? It would appear I can't use rune attacks at all with it (tested on controller, with melee, bow, and staff weapons)

Edit: re-logging fixed this, but while it was broken for me, it just kept heavy swinging Igne Mora (which I didn't have equipped)

[vague dew]

i think it needs a description

[echo totem]

ye, i just wanted a button to activate the rune

so sad

[cobalt vigil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-zUAb_ndDk

Activating runes on bows atm

[echo totem]

ye at this point just give us a hotkey for it lol

tbh, i dont think it procing on charged attacks were bad for the melee weapons

looks decent

working well

but with bows, the problem is not being able to use charged shots and having to do a shot to proc volley

like, why not just charge arrow hail in this case lol

now it will be awkward to use

and volley rune still makes no sense rn

F

weapons work different, stop trying make they work like the same, add different ways to activate different runes

i cant see why shoting a arrow to proc volley makes sense

just make it enhance charged arrow hail by 50% more arrows and more damage/stagger and its fine

[unkempt solar]

Still need to fix the Conductors being able to ignore walls and statues with their charged attacks, if not then give OUR WEAPONS the same ability.

[distant sonnet]

How about the joineries?

[leaden hearth]

This is exactly what we’ve all been asking for when it comes to sieges. Better performance gets better chances at the rewards, bravo.

[distant sonnet]

Its raining dewelion 🫠

[chrome tartan]

Many good changes. Can we also have a bar showing our reputation on each of the Enclave's pages in the Journal? E.g.

Alca's Children
Reputation 125/3000

[rare kiln]

SIGNED!

[chrome tartan]

I mean it makes perfect sense cuz otherwise I'm keeping an actual journal. On my desk. With a quill and ink cuz I'm fancy like that.

[obtuse bear]

So it was a bug after all...

[obsidian dagger]

Bro pls I don't want to press two buttons to cast my rune. Rather dedicate a button to it, like 5.

[harsh locust]

fire hotfix thanks DE, I still think rune activation would be best as it’s own keybind but this is a good start

[mild dagger]

fixing the sight delay after dodging is soooo goated

[small lantern]

Just give us a separate key bind to activate runes please

[languid patrol]

At least it's on their map of things to fix, instead of being a bug that's ignored for so long it becomes a feature

[brazen hatch]

I somehow have the opposite problem, im always out of moranite but i have an abundance of everything else

[rotund fog]

So do the defensive totems still work or is it a UI bug?
ie. Armor totems don't seem to apply currently to the displayed armor values

[rotund fog]

Technically this is a separate keybind as previously pressing the heavy attack in soulmode did nothing. Also consider controller that is already limited severally by the amount of potential input keys

[ebon drift]

Thank you for finally fixing Sympathy, it's been bothering me for a long time.

Scratch that, it's still bugged apparently.

[ebon drift]

Controller being limited is not a reason to limit keyboard though, we already have a distinction in activation method for abilities between the two input schemes.

[dense locust]

Thanks for fixing the keybind to activate the rune. It was an absolute struggle to play especially with bow 👍

[small lantern]

How hard is it to give us one keybind for smite regardless of the mechanics (It can continue to be cast using heavyattack + soulmode for controllers). For e.g., the key for smite would perform soul mode + heavy attack simultaneously through a single key press, that's all.

[brazen hatch]

oh lord

what a placement for the goop

[warped sedge]

befits this hotfix imo. But otherwise a wild choice indeed

[rotund fog]

Ok let me put my counter argument this way: on what button would set them yourself if you could decide?

As the current layout is already using WASD, EFRG+H, Q and ZXC.
Also numberkeys 1-3 are used and the default "utility buttons" like M for map etc.

Realistically what buttons are left that are somewhat easy to press when in the middle of combat

While already having your left hand on wasd and numberkeys and assuming that your mouse doesn't have extra buttons

[modest pilot]

Avex + rune is not working or i just dont understand how it works now?

[rotund fog]

No it is not, was acknowledged in the known bugs section

[modest pilot]

tyty

[small lantern]

People can put it on any key they want, I would personally put it on the mouse key or on 4 or rebind any other one.. this is a non-issue. I don't know why there is resistance or counter to giving people a choice of convenience.
Use the key bind if you want or don't use it.. having a choice is seldom a bad thing.

[rotund fog]

Yes but Im talking about the default bind for it. Also cannot assume that everyone has mouses that have M4 and M5 buttons

4 might work unless they want to add more abilites in future

Soul mode allows them to resue certain default binds that are comfortable to use

Smite having its own keybind is useless as pressing Q+M1 is probably the easiest bind we could have for it

[small lantern]

You're missing the point.. Im my previous post I said let the mechanics be the same (soul+ heavy), just let us keybind this combo to a single key if we want. They don't need to rework any current layouts.

[rotund fog]

I mean yeah that is reasonable enough and uknow might be in the works for future

But again soulframe is literally in prealpha rn so the QoL comes later

But ye I completely agree with allowing custom keybinds and maybe even macros for certain combinations

[ebon drift]

Runes currently don't have an option to be rebound in the settings, hopefully this is just a bandaid fix and they'll make it a proper input later on.

[cinder fractal]

Does anyone using xbox controller have issues activating runes now? I cannot seem to activate since this hotfix. I'm using spectral sight (RT for me) plus heavy attack (bound to my paddle) which is quite awkward to do but it isn't activating my rune.

Looking in settings, there is no listing for "heavy attack" so I'm unable to rebind...

Any ideas?

[whole scarab]

I had the same problem. Heavy attack was bound to RB (also bound to my paddle) and listed as throwing melee weapons. The smite pull was also bound to RB and this conflicted keybind was the problem. I just moved the smite pull to RT.

[glossy nova]

@limpid bramble @calm jungle thank you all so much for your continued work on making this already great game into something that is going to be amazing for years to come cant wait to see what the team will bring to the table next, keep up the good work!

[upper geyser]

Please buff/change the Shrouded passive. It's redundant now since we get a nearly identical effect from Orlick's quests. It would be cool if it granted a speed boost in the shadows—like Oscelda's mechanic—or marked enemies for bonus damage when activating a Soul Mod. Right now, it's just not worth using.

[rapid ravine]

I always thought this was intentional because they were dead and had no... life?

[hollow dagger]

i get that lyke wake is rare but it is damn rare

[warped sedge]

I got 2 fragments back to back once I stopped running the dungeon starting from the exit. The enemies always spawned at level 1 or 2 for me while doing that. Entering the correct side of the dungeon puts enemies at 29-30 and the weapon fragment seems to be dropping as expected. Now the location motes on the other hand...

[oak depot]

Espadarte light attacks seems a little off unless it's intended, it's missing 3rd light attack (stab), also I feel like sometimes it only get 1 stab when attacking enemies

[hollow dagger]

I mean I enter through the entrance not the exit i didn't even know u could enter from the edit lol but ig my rng sucks but none the less the drop is quite rare I mean I've been at it religiously for about 3 days since the day it released I got everything else first try I'm just missing this 😂

[echo sail]

Checking in this morning. Has anyone gotten Espadarte from a duel yet? I’ve done 14 duels and 0 fragments so far.

[small lantern]

"Fixed the “Sympathy” Pact Art not healing the Envoy after pulling a dead enemy’s Smite."
This doesn't seem to be working.. smite from dead enemies does not heal.

[clever violet]

I got 1 fragment after 3 duels

[echo sail]

Ok got one after 20 runs.

[craggy sundial]

not so "Fallen Skytower"

[harsh locust]

while the sentiment is nice, I wouldn’t ping the staff unless they are actively chatting as per the rules

[amber sluice]

I got silistavf but yeah, can also make another dewelion.

[hollow dagger]

i think the bow runes have been nerfed a lot man

its no use using them anymore just use normal attack they do better then rune activated attacks

torrent went to 80% dmg that does not make sense make it 100 or 125 as it was just not 150 or 175 like before xd

[quiet jacinth]

alcas breath is good and for sure does more than a normal charged attack, I'd agree torrent feels pretty bad at the minute tho

[hollow dagger]

yeah but alcah breath is good but it was always this good xd idk why torrent got nerfed to the ground

[harsh locust]

as a bow player i personally think torrent was horrifically overpowered and is much more reasonable now

[fleet valve]

I tend to not even use arrow hail myself, for example. A bow is to take enemies one by one, from the distance. What the hell do you mean by being a massive AoE weapon X.X

[candid sigil]

Of the 35 enemies listed in the book, only 25 remained the next day, and the same goes for the animals. The lights in the fallen tower don't appear, and armor doesn't help.

[fleet valve]

Yeah the journal entries are deleting themselves sometimes for some reason lol

[warped sedge]

I think the consensus is that only one scan persists, per enemy, per session. Meaning everytime you log out, progress on an enemy you scanned, say, 4 times, reverts back to only 1 new scan. So you need to frequently log out and back in to save journal progression.

[sacred sequoia]

I use arrow hail a lot. It has a better result for smiting.

[brazen hatch]

it seemed kind of inconsistent form what i saw, sometimes it heals me sometimes it doesnt

[echo totem]

broken before for sure, but almost useless rn

[echo totem]

there's no problem in making it viable with a build that is not about bursting single targets