Just came back from a 6 month break

[viscid cargo]

Any new meta changes?? What bees should I think of removing to become a perfect red hive ? I just came back to the game.

[molten hatch]

Try to make your composition closer to this one

Also when you boost, kill the vicious bee for a rad bee

[viscid cargo]

Ok

Do I kill music??

[molten hatch]

Yes, but you do need 2 toy horns and a kazoo to compensate

Which you can trade for if you don't have them

[viscid cargo]

Oh alr I got off but I think I had 2 toy horns

[viscid cargo]

Ok

[molten hatch]

And kazoo you can buy from the dapper shop

If u have questions about the hive just ask me

[viscid cargo]

12 precise and 8 vectors is like a must right ?

Is 8 spicy enough

Also I heard some people say 4 carps ?

[molten hatch]

Yes

[molten hatch]

Only reason I don't have that is because I compensate then with honeymark smiley stickers

4 carp isn't bad though if you can fit them

[molten hatch]

8 is slightly lower end, I'd only recommend it if you're good at timing your x flames and if you have max red drives for duped flames

If not then 9 is good

[viscid cargo]

Oh alr

Also I got 32T rn should I try and roll for scorch saw ? Will it be enough ?

@molten hatch what is a 5/5 scorch saw look like btw?

[molten hatch]

Maybe if you're lucky

What's your current SSA?

[viscid cargo]

I got off 10 mins ago

It’s solo scorch

[molten hatch]

Red pollen, crit chance, pollen, bee gather pollen, bar

In order of importance btw

[viscid cargo]

Ok thank u so much

[molten hatch]

Oh then you should definitely roll

[viscid cargo]

if I have more questions in this week will you be able to answer ?

[molten hatch]

Btw solo saw is better than solo scorch so do take a solo saw if you get one with good stats

[viscid cargo]

Ok, tomorrow I will

[molten hatch]

Most of the time yes

[viscid cargo]

Alright

[bitter perch]

ty for the advice Lmao ima get my 10 spicys back prob cuz im terrible at timing x flame

[molten hatch]

just try to practice that in the meantime

[bitter perch]

sucks that im too broke to boost and when im not boosting its just different cuz I dont have as much speed

so it will be hard to practice when I dont do it very often

[bronze marlin]

why vicious and baby? where rad

[molten hatch]

@bronze marlin it says it directly below the image

[molten hatch]

Cuz a 5th tad would be hard to fit into my hive to make it look good, and baby bees produce baby love more often than tadpoles which is why I got a 5th baby love producer, my scorching star already charges very quickly anyway

[modest spire]

Is 4 or 5 tads the normal amount, just wondering how many BAR tads I should prepare before going red (almost got all mats for scythe). I have BAR on 2 tads so far.

[molten hatch]

I'd recommend either 5 tads or 4 tads 1 baby

The tads dont all have to be bar though it does help, do keep in mind movespeed is better than bar

Also make sure you have enough honey saved up so you can afford a scorch saw double passive

[modest spire]

Yeah I will, I always get 4/5 scorch stars constantly while trying to get pop shower. Is a fuzzy alt and a guiding alt all I'll need, I have a fuzzy alt at 49 hive slots and just getting that last one and getting it to lvl 15.

Its blue rn (the alt)

[molten hatch]

Alright, seems like unlike most people you're properly prepared

[modest spire]

Trying to be, working on my red drives as well. But I only get to round 10 on a drive run as blue.

How much polar power do red/white hives need

I have 650 Polar rn

[molten hatch]

The more the better but especially since double resetting doesn't reset all your bees energy anymore, having at least 1000 would be nice to avoid too many bees going to sleep during a boost

[bronze marlin]

yeah but why do you need the vicious anyways?

[bitter perch]

Onett broke double reset?

dang but did he do it on purpose though

[bronze marlin]

bruh why

dumb onett

[molten hatch]

I use it when I'm not boosting for RBC, snail and stick bug

[bronze marlin]

fair

[molten hatch]

Yeah

[bitter perch]

rip thats why it didnt work for me I really thought I was just too stupid for it

[golden hamlet]

I literally only have 200 polar power

[bitter perch]

same though

[viscid cargo]

@molten hatch is this what I should aim for ??

[molten hatch]

Yes looks good, though if you're not very experienced with red yet I'd recommend getting 9 spicys instead of 8

So run 11 precise 9 spicy and once you get good at timing X flame and you have enough drives on digital bee you can change it to 12/8

[viscid cargo]

yoo @molten hatch im so happy i got this but it has no red pollen sadly

i got it in 3 or 4 Trillion honey

is it a 3/5 or 4/5 ?

also i think i will roll for a better amulet that has red pollen sometime later i guess

[molten hatch]

technically 4/5 but since youre missing rp lets call it a 3.5/5

[viscid cargo]

Fair, cuz I remember u saying like red pollen was a #1 priority listed in importance I think right ?

[molten hatch]

Yeah true

[bitter perch]

what are the other stats ranked in importance then (idk if that sentence makes sense)

[viscid cargo]

^ @bitter perch

[bitter perch]

bar < everything else?

bruh im missing crit chance which is the 2nd most important thing??!

what scam is this

[molten hatch]

yes

[molten hatch]

yes

although IC would be after bar on that list

theres 6 good stats for red ssa

and if you're more of a beginning red hive the IC would probably be above the bar aswell

[bitter perch]

💀

so would ic be better for me than bar?

[molten hatch]

probably

[bitter perch]

💀

[molten hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/time-to-play-bee-swarm-gif-25471963

[bitter perch]

I thought bar was op and important

[bitter perch]

heck nah im done grinding there is literally no fun in this game

[bitter perch]

why is cc so important

[molten hatch]

Cuz you want as many supercrits as possible

And regular crits too ofcourse

All your honey comes from maximizing the amount and power of crits and supercrits

[random bear]

0.99 quit says otherwise

[bitter perch]

but thats more important than bar or pollen?!

[molten hatch]

Yes

[bitter perch]

thats crazy

[random bear]

7% cc with like 500% crit power is already +35% pollen

Np supercrits even and it's that good

[bitter perch]

thats mad

[random bear]

if you get a supercrit with that (300% scp) that's 105% pollen buff

crits make red

[bitter perch]

I got 200% scp

[random bear]

flame heat

dark heat I mean

[molten hatch]

It's easy to get a much higher multiplier

If you convert an entire xflame you'll get like 25-30 dark heat

[bitter perch]

for 2 seconds which is useless cuz I dont hit targets, I grow my scorch with xflame

[molten hatch]

It's longer than 2 seconds

Closer to like 5 or more if u time it right

And why don't you do both?

Grow the scorch a bit, hit some targets, go back to the x flame, only then convert it, and then grow it more

You're missing out on a ton of honey if you only focus on growing the scorch at the start, it doesn't need to be 6K+ at all

My best lineups are usually at the start of a star that's only like 2-4K

[bitter perch]

x flame is the only thing im able to grow scorch with (cuz skill issue)

its also barely 4k when I just stand insite it with flame fuel, converting the flames after some time (converting timing could be better ofc but still)

[molten hatch]

easy fixes by removing the skill issue

[random bear]

Don't early reds usually add 1 spicy to make up for lack of skill?

[bitter perch]

I have 9 spicy rn

[random bear]

Yeah getting a 10th is overkill

people run 8 generally I think

[molten hatch]

Yes

[bitter perch]

how when im not playing

[molten hatch]

By playing

It's pretty simple

You have to play to get better

[bitter perch]

im not having fun

give me fun and Ill play

[random bear]

meh depends on the thing, sometimes quitting something makes you forget stuff u did wrong (lose the muscle memory) and relearn it better

[viscid cargo]

yo @molten hatch I worked on my hive a bit still tryna fully get it set up still

i just did a 23T pepper boost is that good for this hive ?

[bitter perch]

I should quit

wait how many drives do u have on digi

[viscid cargo]

0 on all 😭 just got digital like a week ago cuz diamond cog was so hard to get

[molten hatch]

Looking better already, though you probably won't get enough marks with only 1 carpenter

I'd recommend trying to get a second toy horn, that way you can replace music bee for another carpenter

[molten hatch]

That's pretty good, did you have someone to pollinate for you?

Because if yes you could also kill your fuzzy bee for a third carpenter

[bitter perch]

Im quitting

without a doubt

[viscid cargo]

Yeah, I was struggling a little bit on the marks side of things during the boost …

[viscid cargo]

I’ll try to trade for one I guess

Also I was wondering do I kill my rage bee ? It currently has a toy horn on it, but when I get another one and remove rage, which bees will I put the toy horns on?

Because I have the lip balm bee equip on crimson rn, and then ima only have brave and rage to put toy horns on, but ima have to remove rage for a perfect red hive build right so then I can’t put 2 toy horns …

[viscid cargo]

No, just 2 level 17 red hives and a mid game player help me; I think they only had a few fuzzies (in total combined …)

Haven’t worked towards a fuzzy alt, are fuzzy alts easy to reach out to and ask help for a boost ??

[viscid cargo]

Mhm idk if I should tho

@molten hatch can you send a list or picture primarily focused on red hive bee equips ? Like clearly saying/showing which bee equips, stats on them, what bees to put on, etc.

As well as mutations on bees in a red hive, please and thank you

[viscid cargo]

^ @molten hatch what to spend my honey on btw, I could use a few good options from someone experienced like u

Sorry for all these questions lol

[molten hatch]

i think the toy horn will be better on crimson than the lip balm

[molten hatch]

finding people to help can be a bit of a struggle, but if you get lucky it's definitely worth it

[molten hatch]

it's fine lol

[molten hatch]

i would tell you to roll SSA since yours doesn't have red pollen, but the other stats you have are really good and it's quite likely to go 25T without getting a better one

so you could also get some bees to level 18, precise bees specifically

[molten hatch]

beequips & mutations: https://meta-bee.my.to/red-hive-guide/

[molten hatch]

also do note that getting 500 red drives can greatly increase how much you make (up to like 1.5/2x more)

on top of that white drives also help a lot, since they make smiley tokens very strong (which will then become around 25% of your honey collection in a boost)

[bitter perch]

I quit real

[viscid cargo]

Ok, so I kill the rage bee once I get second toy horn and remove the lip balm right

[viscid cargo]

I already have all precise 18 and digital

[viscid cargo]

Thanks

[viscid cargo]

Damn this shi got everything

[viscid cargo]

500 is crazy but I’ll try grind a little bit everyday

I do red first then white? Or can I do a bit of both along the way to 500

No blue at all ? Glitched after red and white right?

[viscid cargo]

Why ⁉️🔥

[bitter perch]

I think prioritise red more

[viscid cargo]

Ok

[bitter perch]

u made a 23T boost with THAT hive

thats a sign that I should quit

[bitter perch]

(no ur hive isnt terrible)

[molten hatch]

red first

[molten hatch]

blue drives are only gonna help for rbc, but for boosts its useless so i'd skip blue drives

[bitter perch]

am I fr supposed to make 25T in a 20 min boost?

[viscid cargo]

I did 30 min boost x4 pepper 9x winds

And do u have digital ?

[bitter perch]

yes ofc

[viscid cargo]

It carried my boost

[bitter perch]

did 20 min, but not even half of your honey

[viscid cargo]

Do you have good enough amulets ? Other than cog

what lvl ur hive and did u have any helpers ?

[bitter perch]

they are all good for white 😭

[bitter perch]

lvl 17 hive, only an afk fuzzy alt as help (sucks Ik)

[viscid cargo]

I have rlly good amulets (mid ssa and cog though), mostly lvl 17 hive, but lvl 18 precise and digital, and I had 3 helpers

[bitter perch]

my ssa is pretty good (except that it doesnt have crit chance)

[viscid cargo]

My ssa is 4/5 but doesn’t have red pollen so 3.5 Taran said

[bitter perch]

my ssa is also 4/5 just that it doesnt have crit chance

[viscid cargo]

Bru u missing the second most important stat me missing the most lmao

It’s fine

[bitter perch]

xD

[bitter perch]

I didnt have wealth clock either

[viscid cargo]

Yea but try to get better amulets if they are mostly white as u said

[viscid cargo]

I had x3

Oh I also used a marshmallow bee

[viscid cargo]

@bitter perch this should help both of us a lot

As I don’t have good bee equips and mutations and u need amulets

[bitter perch]

already got a few nice mutations and beequips on my bees

my prec bees all got a nice attack mutation

[viscid cargo]

nice

I could do that, I have like 2k bitter berry u think it’s enough ?

[bitter perch]

probably not

might be though

[viscid cargo]

and bee equips I just need a toy horn, rose headband, pink shades, and maybe a few others

[bitter perch]

I also need pink shades

[viscid cargo]

Can we get them in the dapper bear shop or beesmas ?

[bitter perch]

beesmas

honey bee quest reward

[bronze marlin]

can you show me your beequips

[random bear]

beesmas but also trading, it's very expensive though for a good one

[viscid cargo]

Pretty bad ik

Do I buy this ?

@molten hatch this good to buy ?

[molten hatch]

yes

[viscid cargo]

What bee do I put on and what waxes do I use on it?

Ima be removing vicious after I was doing rbc*

[bronze marlin]

rad

wait no basic

[bronze marlin]

camphor lip balm is useless ngl

[bronze marlin]

wtf is music doing there and why rage and fuzzy

[viscid cargo]

I have music bc I don’t got second toy horn and rage I was doing a lot of RBC earlier and fuzzy idk if I should remove bc I don’t got a fuzzy alt

[viscid cargo]

Alr, what other bee equips should I try and get apart from toy horn also ima try to grind dapper bear quests for more bee equip slots (they hella annoying though)

[bronze marlin]

u need fuzzy alt for red..

it's a requirement

[molten hatch]

When I boost I put it on basic

And then I put my pink shades on shy bee

[molten hatch]

I'd use hard wax

[molten hatch]

A sweatband with around 20% red gather amount for your digital bee

And a whistle for commander bee

If you have those and the toy horns and drums and you shouldn't worry about beequips much anymore

[viscid cargo]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/675810533538005005/1260797959956598855/image.png?ex=6690a11a&is=668f4f9a&hm=6fefaf67b703f0e182c653dd41c8383f9a29161d1423aec4295e677e8d6573be&

Ima be doing some more rbc (less boosting) and grind 500 red and white drives and maybe some glitched drives

are there any changes I should make to the hive that could help for rbc? What bees to add or remove in the picture

[molten hatch]

you dont really need to change your hive for getting the colored drives

since you'll be doing drive runs

[random bear]

Well fuzzy once you get a fuzzy alt
Vic and rage but those are for rbc

[viscid cargo]

Ohh ok

[viscid cargo]

is 72T boost good for this hive ?

also i have 100T rn, should i lvl up hive ?

[molten hatch]

If its without honeyday, then yes that's pretty good

[molten hatch]

Yes

[viscid cargo]

I decided to hold off a bit on that and do another boost. I did one today and got 94T very happy with that. I’m at a whopping 195T now, and I’ll have star treat for puppy bee in a few days (I don’t wanna spend honey on tickets as ima js macro for a few days and not boost), so I can level up hive then

After getting all bees level 18, which should be like 50T, I think I could get half my hive level 19 (with the 10% BFT and 20% from Puppy gifted) correct me if I’m wrong

Which bees do I get level 19? And do I get digital level 20 ? @molten hatch

[opal sluice]

@viscid cargo i have fuzzy a;t

[molten hatch]

Smart

[molten hatch]

Digital first ofcourse, then get precise bees

If you can still afford more after that then go for spicys and then vectors

[viscid cargo]

Alright

Thank you so much you’ve helped me a lot and respond very quick too

[timber shoal]

Thanks for helping out @viscid cargo!
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