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I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they are thinking of a way to make them viable again
everything was canceled no rewrok
giving IronMace the benefit of the doubt? Are you new here buddy?
It really wasn't much of a q&a at all. They just wanted to announce sdf moving on to another project (out of revenge against everyone who said Dark is a stolen game.)
No.
They did come through with fighter while it was in the shitter for awhile. Give em time and hope they figure something out
I saw this coming tbh
yeah true that 2 class update was crazy work, I should give them a break for another 3 years for all of that work
Hopefully we stop getting "balance patches" that only focus on one class because that's the dev's personal class
I've been around for this long to still remember how bad fighter got thrown under the bus. Lol
Prob wont lol
Still makes me laugh that druid is the only class that got a special form to make the water map easier. All because it's sdfs pet class
this whole game is a nothing burger, since patch 60 we just got 2 maps that are crap, we got druid that was op, then buff barb, nerf barb, nerf druid, then they added some skills/perks on barb and fighter that were all nerfed into oblivion except whirlwind, last bastion and weapon block
all rest is bad
one of the funniest parts about this community is that they seemingly remember everything but never learn
poetry
Its a f2p game afterall.
ty ❤️
Its a paid game with a f2p part
The only people who still play this game is mostly for people who are in it for the nostalgia of how the game originally was anyways.
No? The people who play the game still are the onea that are enjoying it
One part of it I'm sure
can you tell us more about arc raiders and marathon?
im looking for an epic extraction game that is NOT nostalgia bait!
yo where is the patch?!
Oh boy arc raiders. I genuinely think its a good game. The problem is the community.
I played tarkov since it was its in alpha and this was the first game of its genre.
The problem with extraction shooters I could summarize down to 3 issues.
- Developers
- Community
- The game itself
The money has been sent
Yus
Cheeseburber time
@hexed adder 2 weeks without update or not? Queue up the Spotify
So, another week without a patch?
i think they should make ''curse of ignorance'' when you cast it on someone the lower their knowledge is the more movespeed and magic resistance they lose
thoughts?
Sounds like the counter to barb and barber
Having to waste a slot for knowledge sounds like the bane of my existance
But it also depends on the curve of how bad it wil effect others like wiz and cleric
If they're super smart, will it increase movespeed and mdr
they can also hold a knowledge instrument when you are casting it to negate the effect, alot of counterplay 👍
only if its above 45
18 would be just fine
Guess wizzards are gonna be happy when they get warlocked
A curse or spell that reduces armor effectiveness would also be cool to see
Give it to warlock and sorc and maybe id actually play 1 of the 2
No patch today?
sorry the devtime is spent on the ad mortem zwei skin
please understand
they literally said half a year ago that weekly patches are no more
Please patch Paul 🙏🏽
didnt they say this week patch tho?
@urban mantle hi
sdf stole the team they gotta rehire and retrain so expect a patch in about 5 months
Rogue and ranger re work coming soon prolly
Why do the emberflame bundles give you duplicates
ㅤ♡
are we getting any content soon? shits dead af again
Give us a patch, stop giving us emberflame promo vids
bro its so deeeeeeeeeead. Even if they release a new class next wipe thats content for about 1-2 weeks and thats it
they said patch this week on the video last week but they say a lot of stuff
gimme a new mode or a new map (not water this time wtf bro)
maybe its time to quit dnd again for a year and come back after. I mean they spent 3 wipes time for a dogass map just so its never played
i aint doing that cycle again
bro water map is nice to look at and cool concept. fighting in the water is what is dogass
exactly what i mean
its a aesthetic map but who tf wants shit fighting and good looks for a pvp game
pve mode sure but fuck pve
The fighting is great once you figure it out
i just farm bladehand when im bored. ez boss to learn
dawg thats still pve
who tf cares about a shield artifact dropping fat cpt jack sparrow
i really want these guys to realize what potential the game has and actually put work into content instead of 200 bucks worth of cosmetics each patch
a man can dream. I will die of cope 1 day ngl
Did we not get a patch?
when wipe is announced prices are low
blue jewelry already costs 2-3x times less, so id say its close
can you get banned for a inappropriate character name ????
I don't know how they handle innapropriate character names, maybe they ask you to change it, perhaps it depends on how inappropriate the name is.
i've seen some very questionable names in-game lol
pls lord, open up arena
its open in 11 hours or something
patch on a friday huh, been a while
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ahhhh
Patch when
when is wipe
Bruh I'm getting wholluped today on water map, I need to go grab a coffee
when is wipe?
QnA said end of April apparently!
Where is a patch
nice, any info on what's coming up?
Nope just they are focusing on another game because they are fast at delivering patches and content for this one they decided to start a new one
Heard there is a dwarf buff coming out tomorrow
#📢ironmace-media message Here's the QnA video!
v nice 
where is the patch?
When is wipe
When's the patch
When's new wizard spells
When's Paul coming to my home with pizza order
when is my dad coming home with the milk 😔
Don't know. But he did come by to borrow my full plate armor suit 👀
Chat are the quests out yet?
The warlord currently bugged out?
No patch this week?
Ya it's Thursday curious my self
Next month end of month is wipe
game needs a patch. lobbies feel dead af
FINALLY MADRINAS IS BACK!
This game is on death row, selling fucking mugs and cosmetic weapon skins now.
wheres the patch vro
yoooo less madrinas coffee and emberflame announcements plz, and give us a damn patch lol
no patch??? just fucking coffee
Madrinas package is big. That churro cold brew is legit
The madrinas stuff tastes sooooooooooo fucking bad
i didnt played dnd in a long time is it still tuff or did stf ruin the game even more
yeah the churro cold brew is great
patchie patchie
why would you guys partner with such a poor quality product?
Soon 
it tastes like straight chemicals
dude it’s like jet fuel it got me buzzin
swear if yall drop a patch in the middle of the day ima be heated
chy can we hold hands in the dungeons?
cash money baby
Never rule it out
what? The coffee beans they have are legit af
is like an energy drink
no patch but hey more mtx and more product collabs
the beans are alright, the cold brew shit should be illegal
Bring back instant shapeshift Druid please
what a wonderful day
Over the counter amphetamines like god intended
Yeah it’s horrible
Madrina's coffee aint bad, but that resting emote drinking the coffee from back in the day is BISSSS
Beans aren’t bad tho
no patch but hey more mtx and more coffee
I’d maybe buy it again if it had this
if it had that emote i would buy it
and it could have been such a good product
Are the devs that make game updates the same guys that work with vendors and marketing?
Dark chocolate is disgusting
No patch but hey more whining
no they must never reintroduce that resting emote, i have it so keep it exclusive lolol
Anything but revealing seasonal rewards
I was hoping it was good but yeah tried it once and never again
oh it was exclusive? shit imma put it on
White skelly havin a cuppa. Unbeatable.
BRO i don't even like Coffee
oh damn thats tuff af
i mean its super expensive, i bought all the dad coffee products last year and i was so dissapointed
get up and walk away with the blue torch out
also i worked at a coffee roastery for like half a year and i never seen such oily beans
why can't they do something a little more accessible 😢
You caught me big boy that's exactly what I was saying!
I was not disappointed those beans were nice. the pack I got had 2 beans and 1 mix i think
the only coffee i drink is the two day old one in a pot that's been sitting on the table.
sounds like cap to me
NO WAY COFFEE!!!
Gcx torch with the crusty season 1 cloak for me.
i mean that doesnt mean they dont exist, just they were news to me xd
I am not a fan of coffee
I gave the beans to my mum and the cold brew to my dad when I bought the pack, and they both loved it, so I'll trust their judgment 
i love when something gets posted, the crybabies throw themselves on the ground. i bet the people around you, just love to hear you complain about everything.
Can you find rare wardweed in PVE?
5% drop
i have, but its not very often
OK thanks yall
i mean the flavour kinda sounds tuff
Yeh... €57 shipped for ~500 grams of toddler flavored beans, 8 cups of chemical ice coffee and a cup.
thats a big no from me. I love coffee, but this aint coffee 💀
i bought like both bundles ON SALE and i ended up spending around 100€ to ship to germany
they had dark and darker coffee?
for years
that much for bad bean water?
Since they're making more money does that mean we get more content? Didn't think so that'll be in 3 more years
that much for the in game items yea xd, i gave the beans to my mom aswell and the cold brew i straight up threw in the trash after trying it once xd
money well spend ig xd
probs to fund SDF's new project
Oh he's got a new project? Lmao
yep lol
Glad to see they've abandoned the game lmao
yeah i couldnt spend that much on in game stuff
If it makes you feel better when I bought it last time it was out it cost me like 65$ to ship it 2 states over here in the US....
they said its not going to mess with dnds development at all
they said ranger/rogue rework this season....
when?
looking back at it i shouldn't have, the resting emote is neat but worth like 10€ tops
at beginning of season
Leaving this server it was a good 4000 hours though
they said gathering hall, early this season. too 
4000 hours hollllyyyyy
it dont top the coin resting emote

they said its not coming for a while because they have to redo the entire backside of the servers to do it
damn thats a lot for in country shipping

after they said its coming soon, trice
55$ bundle plus 10$ shipping
never heard about that so im going to assume you dont even know
Pure sugar coffee LOL
I'll be shocked if this game makes it to 2027
and then they had to partner with madrinas xd
lolol, they literally announced it... the devs themselves
we have known its not going to come for a while now
so it tastes bad
ok when?
Guys guys, you have to buy the 200$ in cosmetics AND the coffee so we can fund the ranger rework
Why is the restoxk so fugging exspensive
We only waited 4 years for a fucking quiver
6,678
players right now
6,789
24-hour peak
57,164
all-time peak 1.8 years ago
The beans were pretty good if I remember correctly. The instant coffee was poison
They did say this
it makes red bull taste like all natural spring water
at the beginning of the season, not my fault if you arent up to date with current events at the time they happen
ye beans are not THAT bad but im hating
and the shaker cups are sadly not that high in quality
but its metal
Could.of just sold dark and darker coffee beans if they needed cash that bad
thats right IM, im surely gonna buy some random drinks for an emote
Idk man they had something then botched it 100% game is just a rock paper scissor arcade game with D&D aspects. Thought it was going to be a true fantasy extraction game but they're just missing so much shit that would make the longevity way better
announced it where you keep avoiding the answer because you dont have one
If the coffee even fuggin dark roast haha
during the Onepeg QnA back in January, go watch it
I believe it was in the devQ&a at the beginning of this wipe or end of last, they also said gathering hall would be done too
OncePeggeg is garbage at doign the QnAs. so happy hes not doing it
I'm sure you'll get your rework that was needed 3 years ago in 2 more years
no they didnt i watch the entire qna they hinted at in the future maybe working on other characters this season but nothing was said concrete
i agree, but Slime just wants to pretend Ironmace didnt say they would rework rogue & ranger this season
watch it again friend
They def said they would
In the mean time enjoy them changing 1 thing on rogue and nerfing daggers again
100% they did
we are not friends an no need you just want to complain for no reason
ohhh spicy
Lmao what a loser
i have a couple other ppl here literally corroborating my statement
Don’t try to make sence of it man

couple of randoms lol just more people who want to complain for no reason
Soy boy
SDF here on a burner. I've heard your complaints about ranger and rogue, with that in mind we have decided to buff barbarian and fighter. We also decided to nerf everyone else for balancing purposess
ok i mean you just brownnosing hard rn
when did i complain? i just agreed with him that rogue and ranger was said to get a rework by end of wipe
Thank God
Also complain for no reason? Holy shit he's right you're brown nosing like crazy
you are just complaining with no purpose or reason
Bros mind is a brick wall
im sure you are built like one but thats besides the point
Enjoy your dead game dawg I'm sure you'll love sdfs new passion project "axe spec 5% to 10%"
Haven't even played it in a week just have the tag to remove dad 🤣
I’ll complain about anything if I want to u bum
You guys are missing the point, the only way the game will get better is if we give them all our money
spend 20+ on a game just to not play it cuz its garbo lol
I pray for downfall and o grave dance do something about it
right im sure you do lol
you are actually just weird
And?
anyway im done rage baiting sigh whens the update @proud copper
you live in a gated community
Patch 69 was peak vision and gameplay
Yes I do what will you do about it? I’ll cal 911 on you son
My gated community shiny green grass

If I don’t call 911 my neighbor will we got eachothers backs
So tell me what you’ll do @clever olive
that makes 2 of us now
50 beans before shipping is unreal for 5/10 coffee and an old emote, is anybody actually gonna pay that?
Where did emo boy go
👀 are you mentally all there? or do you need extra time on your tests
of course, a fool and his money are easily parted
I ask you what you’ll do to me in my gated community and u switch topics,, looks like someone is a bit behind
theres nothing emo about my pfp or my profile at all?
i think you are just mentally behind imo
I do take extra time on tests, if extra time is offered why wouldn’t you take up on it?
ah i see
Aww little emo boy getting mad
smth smth its easier to pass a camel thru the eye of a needle than the type of guy thatd buy this sht 🤣
you guys still take tests?
Become more enraged
I like it
Because you can’t do anything to me behind my gated community remember that. Unless you wana go to jail
haha haven't heard that one, but yes freedom is a skill that few people actually know how to use 🙂
extra time is only offered up to people who are special i hope you realize that
Yep As long as the material I get and hand in is done completely and properly I don’t mind the amount of time I put in or use, be offered or take.
So what if I’m special you can’t do anything to me
Are new quests out?
Ill tell your parents about ur behaviour
you know what sure well im going to go an buy my dnd coffee
And your principal will scold you
yeah, or flexing in the gathering hall
Go get some coffee my son, seems you are LOW T need things like coffee in your miserable life
bud you need a nap
There are still people who are well-equipped for pvp
my life is pretty good actually for example i was at the cinema 2 days ago with a few of my friends an we saw scream 7 pretty good time
Why you typing more? @clever olive jusg go get your coffee and forget I ever existed before you get even more mad
It’s alright you don’t need anymore validation you love your life
nah im not mad i just like keeping you here
i bet you live in the dnd discord lol
I do
I'm not saying it's common, but it does exist
It also wouldn't be fun if all the games were played by tryhards
HR is a dead concept until ironmace make people gear up to play it. im not saying go back to gearscore, we saw how that failed. make people put an epic item in every gear slot to queue or watch squire rats continue to ruin the "geared PVP" mode
I agree with you on that
honestly atp just make S2R the adventure point grind mode, and combine norms and HR
make people gear up from squire to farm artifacts lol
Where's the patch today
artifacts were never enough incentive for me to gear for HR. no boss is unkillable in squire kit
games PvE is easy as fuck
good kits are the way you make mobs easier to clear tho. I get rats in squire diluting the pool, but they struggle to clear any nightmare mobs with decent pacing
that’s your incentive to play hr… what the fuck are you playing for then
There's geared people on every server on every map in hr idk what you guys are on about, go kill someone gang
imagine playing this treasure trove of a game and not even partaking in the literal only fun part
They do gang what map are u playing
Well that is a much easier fix than upending the whole gear brackets that work well otherwise lol
Ill squire youre blue kits
go to the rooms where most the pvp happens then idk, almost every game at least 1-2 guaranteed full kits
the mental gymnastics to not use gear in the gear looting game hurts the brain
Geared players go red in crypts immediately almost every time, maybe stay to wipe lobby in trios but other than that it's red. Goblin caves is full of troll farmers who are broke and need that 5k gold to build their 5k full blue set to have a slight edge in their next norms game
The exception to the troll farmers is geared barbs and Lorr+yami
that doesn’t sound right. ppl usually PvP in ruins lol
bro what year are you playing in
I literally killed viola team last night idk how ur generating these clankers lobbys
cant relate cause im too shit, but everytime i play highroller everyone got legendary + lol
Almost everyone I run into in legendary bis idk what bot lobbies u finding
@gaunt oracle
Because nobody wants to risk their gear / fight against the perfectly min maxed meta no life's in HR that w key every sound they hear and want to "wipe the lobby" because theres nothing fun about that. Most just want to make progress, find some cool stuff maybe, fight a boss and extract and fight people they have a fair chance at having a good fight with not a team or player that no life's the game and has 0 chance of winning against because of that
Anither reason the game pop is consistently falling
Lots of naked or goji rats on ruins, like I said the people that don't plan on lobby wiping just end up taking red asap
my gc solos are generally juiced, ruins is like 50/50
Skilled*
theres a guy in gathering hall flexing a pve artifact kit son im crine
Moose and I cooking with Wagyu tallow
he’s in this chat ask him how many hours of idling in gather hall he’s got
The kills are the skill, matchmaking is either RNG or hidden mmr
for that statement im guessing its a sad amount of hours
play duo or trio
i think this discord guy is aptly named
it is
fairly obvious he doesn’t actually play the game
duos usually has people in epics trios is like named pvp
yesterday saw 3 nips db soulscraper spellweaver in trios
Every lobby has at least one geared player you can't convince me otherwise
thats a lot of words to say you want pve hr back dawg
Use your game sense and hunt em down
guys i want to introduce the game to a friend and idk whats the best way to go about, do we do squire to riches until he gets the hang of it or is there a better way to teach him the game?
I'm at work u vhud
if it were up to me, scrap current PVE mode and make the only PVE mode HR
No I don't but nice assumption / rage bait. Lmao
I want the game to be fun and balanced and enjoyable for everyone not just the meta slave w keyers with too much time on their hands.
god you’re so sad 
brand new? def pve mode just to learn the basics of the map/monsters then go into squire
that would be clutch but probs not enough players for Ironmace to swing separating it out haha
trashing any kind of smooth onboarding sounds bad
squire is more often than not a br playground, if you wanna learn pvp go there imo
just remove pve mode honestly
I'm in between job sites messaging at red lights, you ride a bike to school
Current PVE mode isnt even good for onboarding when half the players load in in purps/legos/unqiues and farm PVE mode bosses lmao
yeah and how are they gona learn pvp
you want to win without being good. so pve hr or bot lobbies dude? you want hidden MMR in every mode to pair you with similarly-skilled individuals? because thats how you get what you're asking for. all that will change the complaint; from "meta slave nolife" to "RMT gear check"
your fatass is typing with your grease fingers from a burger king lobby right now
No there are other ways to do that. And again alot of nice assumptions on your end. Never said any of that lmao.
right and everyone was more skilled before pve came out cuz they had to learn the hard way
cite one
but that’s notoriously bad lol
yeah a diff issue but not a reason to ditch the only onboarding the game has
dont argue with him hes a little kid ragebaiting bro
Why so you can try and argue and stong arm your assumptions and opinions? Lol
no, you said there's away and I want to hear it\
it’s not gated? so there’s no real learning… just getting clapped over and over
Oh yeah I caught that on the first message lmao thank you 🙂
we should focus on the real game, spending money on ironmace’s next cash grab
Let's stay respectful of others, folks 😄
quick buy your coffee
imagine all the players from back in the playtests that bounced off the game due to bad onboarding
agreed, i think they just need to rework their onboarding process
hes just gona block you when u start making valid counter poits so its a waste of time
PVE mode should be limited to squire gear or uncommons, and drop at max rare loot from any one mob
Pve mode is good onboarding bc it introduces you to the game loop just one part at a time
Yeah there are a lot of grifters in the discord these days. Sad reality of the pop drop unfortunately. Game in a bad state. Makes people mad. They come to the gen chat to take out their anger.
I have been there myself aswell it sucks to see something you love fall into obscurity
it’s fine if you think that, but it doesn’t do anything good for the game pop lol
Have you guys seen the Madrinas collaboration?
I’d love to get one of those wooden beer mugs they used to sell
Featherweight, 5'11", construction worker 7-3, soaking wet, and I still run kits worth more than your stash when you're unemployed hating on people with no ground, rhyme, or reason on a discord server 😭
jesus christ
actually … I like this since it more cleanly cuts each mode. but pve farmers would go nuts lol
you gona tell me one of the ways to make pvp fights more even in skill without hidden mmr?
bro happily claimed 5 foot
i mean all he does is sit in gathering hall all day flexing his rmt kit he knows nothing abt the game cuz he barely plays it
yeah well PVE mode farmers need to re-evaluate their purpose in this game imo 😂
bro is literally dropping chatgpt responses in discord tavern chat can’t make this up
It's not that deep kiddo
“with no ground rhyme or reason” okay dr seuss
idk why it’s just one or the other. at the moment pve mode covers multiple use cases and I feel like it should stay that way
U pressed over discord messages 🥺 God forbid somebody has a vocabulary wider than what you hear on tiktok
Yeah I never liked the idea of PVE in the first place just encouraging bad behaviors and practices imo. Squire to Riches is a fine on-boarding for new players to learn mobs and pvp in a clean and fair enviornment.
"humble" is ironic asf
it’s about the sentence not even making sense because you’re trying to use fanciful works and sound smart
go back to your 7-3 mr 5’11
Are you trying to shame someone because of their height? 🤣 thats pretty wild #sizequeen
Which effectively eliminates the use case for new player onboarding tho
Everything you read doesn't even get processed by your brain. I'm confused on how you are not making sense of the sense that is being made.
Dudes just slinging insults like a toddler with no purpose to them
yeah i agree, i think s2r is good learning ground... you loaded in with nothing back during playtests and just figured out how to play.... i do think they could keep PVE mode, but just dumb it down so it literally just new players.... experienced players in gear spamming Spec Knight is so cringe.... at least when they had PVE HR mode there was SOME risk to it
idk watching the shitstorm when f2p came out with the locked squire normals was a wake up call for me that new players? Like brand new ones, won’t read shit or try to understand
Who's buying the collab
I agree. And you should not be able to farm high value items in pve again it just encourages elicit activities
hey guys our game is dying, anyway buy our coffiee
💀
I have wanted the emotes for ages but don't drink coffee....goes right through me x.x
it really does not help with the illicit activities either, you are VERY correct abt that
If that stuff can be called coffee, than red bull should be considered vitamin water
absolutely, when it’s thrown at me in conversation like he’s trying to be a high school prom king prospect, it’s the best thing to make fun of
🥚
I type faster than you with one finger on my phone 💀
I think you could do better than resorting to making fun though.
Is the coffee any good? Deadass only buying if the coffees good was boutta reup on some desthwish but ill get that instead if its good
Keep in mind this man child tried to call me obese lmao
Deathwish*
elicit activities lol. do you know the droprate on spectral fabric and troll pelt in PVE vs HR?
Bro got statchecked
yea I liked the beans a lot. The instant coffee is like jet fuel
you cannot be a real person
Mogged crazy style
jestermaxxing
Do a spin for me twin
Word ty
I actually wish they'd sell tea too
pve's strongest solder
where’s that lfg tool at
Ayyo wait do you mean it tastes ass the instant? Or that its super caffeinated
This would be ideal for me ngl I love me some tea. So sad Teavana got shut down 🙁
Ok lmfao
i was thinking about that infamous coffee until i saw 10+ bucks shipping fee no thanks
Is it coming from korea
love the range cheaters in ice caves rn lol so fun
10$ is wild lol damn ontop of the price as is. Just let me but the emotes lmao
i guess lol
Fair mug is pretty cool
Bard larpers unite
Me too. I drink both, but tea is more convenient for me than coffee🫖
also site offered me 20% discount on my first buy...just not for the package for some reason 
Chinese loose leaf tea is where its at
we’ve come a long way since they quarantined this chat… you can even say clown now
Love me some loose leaf. Teavana had so many good options 🥲
I need to find loose leafe around me again. I just gave up after they closed sadly
Game fell off so hard they stopped being afraid of words
1.0 here we come
🤣 🤣
me when i cope
you still cant say chvd tho
No chvds allowed in gen chat
But where else will they go?!
only chvds allowed actually, just no calling there name
Chudley the third was in my lobby last night I stg
pve mode
Makes sense
Scooped the echo I killed then phantomized red while I killed the other 2
Frockin chudley the third I hate that guy
The names people use are pretty wild sometime lmao ngl I have seen some things
doesnt it take fkn ages to loot a body that you didnt kill? or did they change that back. its been a while for me
it’s not that much longer but yes longer than normal
All the time in the world when I have to kill gold Bard and gold fighter while it's sitting on the floor
It does take longer still lmao but it still happens lol me and my friend ratted some guys whole kit off him while his friend rezzed him after a fight. They came back just in time to chase us to the red. Poor guy had to run about naked. Not my proudest moment but lord it was funny
so... is dark saved?
no
Best solo class for colossus?
what 4 merchants give quest skins/emote again?
fuck, well ill check back in a year
all this line holding since the torrent days only to end like this 🥀
Personally i think its one of the best states its been in since the playtests. Balance feels better and its moving in the right direction. Each map has its bugs and issues but they're fixing and adding decent things. The new mechanics like workstations will be fire at begining of the season
collector, tavern, gobo, religion
havent played in a while ill give it another go just to see
Def worth getting your own opinion. Especially since we all enjoy a different thing about the game. You may enjoy the newer classes or bosses. But you also might just like the second floor to gobi caves (i'm a crypts main personally)
thats a valid point ill see today how it is
Yay! There are a lot of peeps in here who haven't played in a hot second but like to drop their thoughts so I'm glad you're giving it a try. What class you gonna play?
just fighter its the only class i ever played
and the only one i was actually good at
Are clarity pots bugged? Im getting no spells back what even?
i think u have to drink it and then rest
yep drink and sit
You should have fun then considering it's one of the best classes right now!
Thats wild ye you right but wild its so short and you gotta sit?!?! Jeeessiuuiuus
whats the meta for it right now
there was a time when u didn’t have to rest and it made wizard insane
basically infinite spells if u had pots
I guess just make it not as fast though? Idk seems wild just take meditate at that point idk
it’s still good now even for those few juiced ticks
as a cleric you can get a whole sanc charge back from a white clarity
they’re good mainly in team fights when u need spells back quick, you’ll almost never see them or use them in solos
patch today or nah?
Yeah getting that now. Sucks may as well auve just brought more camps lol
They are always used in solos xD
Jo I came back to DaD and wondering what class to play again.
What would you choose, My mains were Sorc and rogue but I heard sorc is kinda weak rn, so I wonder If its viable to give Wizard a try?
Would love to hear some thoughts about this 🙂
(I play normals solo mostly)
Been that way for a long time now. The white rarity pots basically expire by the time you sit
but in exchange they tick right away while you do the sit-down
like as soon as you hit G the clarity kicks in
Dayyyyyyum
we knew chests were going down with everyone finishing huntress
but thats CHEAP
Ive been playing wiz and having a great time this season. Everyrhing has a parry and riposte now so bonk builds are up.
Ive been running 4 spell with staff mastery and instant cast. Gives you a good balance of ranged dmg potential and melee
sounds like a fun build
I remember back in season 3 when I HAD to give warlock a try bc longsword was just the goat, being the only weapon that could parry...now longsword just feels out-classed by rapier speed
thought workshop was getting an update this week? all i see is a merch drop lmao
So instead of a patch we get a $50 coffee mug?
I havnt been keeping up with iron mace lately. Is paul real or just a scapegoat for SDF. didnt watch the q and a but "paul" was wearing a costume?
What classes yall been enjoying so far
What are The top 3 classes for solo and duo?
fighter, barb, and whatever else
Havent seen many rouges hows the class this season
Ran duo for hours yesterday ran into fighters barbs and rangers nothin else, occasional wizard
My friend is a rouge, and donest like fighting so im kinda just left 1v2 most of the time. I play fighter, but was thinking of going barb or ranger for the 1v2 wins
Play rogue to get 2 tap by a barb FeelsBadMan
Barbs seem mega OP
druid, druid, druid, no one can win against bear druid fr
Rat rogues everywhere in hr solo
most braindead overpowered class = bear druid
Landmine rogues my favorite
They are pretty decent right now.
i've never played druid. I've also smoked a few druids on bear, unlike those damn barbs
patchie
doesnt matter what you run. you get 2 tapped by barb. 74 pdr and get headshot down to 10% health
This is true
if ur geared then you dont get countered by ranged class that much and you win everyfight against any melee class
Armor pen ranger will smoke you even in gear if they are decent
ya the barbs ruined pvp this wipe. also eveyrone in solos jsut waits for fights to start and then jumps in when they have a chance
I still find it crazy that instead of nerfing the duration or cooldown of the flag (so you didnt have it at almost 100% uptime) they just reduced it by 2 all, like its still crazy good but fighter just has so many good options yk
It never ceases to amaze me that they watch a barb warcry then they think "Yeah I'm gonna attack that head on." then get mad when they loose like you cannot make this up LOL
Speaking of an armor pen ranger ran into one using pesti and did 70 percent of my health in one shot lmaoo. Had be shook
just go in human form and keep on healing
or go rat and run away
Barbs have been pretty easy when i play sorce keep zoning freeze bolt ez clap
legit 0 counters to this braindead class btw
anyway, this is my plee to have fighter get 15 new perks by next wipe
And of course, they buff bear stats and size
is a larger bear a good thing?
be free and uninstall. ive never been happier in my life
its bad, they buffed it by making the size smaller
is a smaller bear a good thing?
well its situational but most of the time its bad
yeah cuz u dont get destroyed by ranged classes or fransicas and throwing knifes
reckless and berserker are a problem. reckless needs a cooldown and berserker needs to be completely changed
so, it doesnt do anything?
That barb thing that slows you when meleed is crazy
this, is why I need more fighter skills, because of druid complainers
They've changed these back and fourth so many times Idc anymore and just play the game my guy lol
arena still purple today?
i dont care what you do
I wonder if theres any players who started playing the game and picked sorc
in 7 hours yeah
its a proper arena season, theres rewards. dont expect changes (especially when they havent changed it mid season for a while)
lets go ma man HamPicklesTomatoCheeseLettuce
Then why are you even talking to me bud lmfao.
how many players online?
because I care
Bro turned into the angry npc meme when I told him the truth lmao.
um.... spec bags are down to 10k gold now...
why are you referencing fucking memes Im not on your or his side in your petty squabble
really? can I finally buy a fabric and make a spectral cloak
What days would brainmush bear build stack? Asking for a friend
because chests are down to 75. Everyone and their grandma is selling their quest chests
I'm not? I'm just saying it's funny to compare the guy to a meme. Yeesh ya'll are so grouchy this morning LOL
oh my god its better than that. I can finally buy a troll pelt 🥹
its 5 in the evening for me
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what eve is this question
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Saturday, Wednesday, Friday
you mean what statts?
bro what is that day ordering
quick reload and bow mastery do they add up to 100% action speed or what
???????
while reloading
in ranger
i'm DM'ing you
I think your discord has been hacked, some dummy keep copy pasting the same thing into 5 different channels
im the dummy
well then, carry on sir. Perchance try barbarian
i wish our community manager would give word on when to expect the update, but they probs dont even know
u should've pinged me with an answer
Feel free to fill out a complaint form with my manager @gaunt oracle
if you're dwarf and you shapeshift into bear you should be a cub
i mean for demon tho actually whats the point
-10 ms for nothing
make me a smaller demon or gimme the speed back
they dont have disabled demons? i thought they mutilate in hell idk
fuck all that tho nerf barb
brother what
not that hard to comprehend, why am i dwarf if demon is unaffected except the detriment of it
and nerf barb is simple as possible to understand
the cub shit was just funny dont actually add cub
been awhile since i last played is the game in a good state yet?
Of course
Why is hurl weapon banned from normals
What lol?
I try to use hurl weapon perk and go duos norms and it says the following perk is banned from this gamemode "hurl weapon"
My report numbers turned yellow
Hmm not sure! Seems weird!
Maybe theres a 1 tap bug right now
Does spell stride on sorc work or is it still bugged?
wait i just tried this and you aint even lying.... that actually super weird lol
But not reckless lol
wait Hurl Weapon skill also banned from PVE mode... is there an item glitch with it? i dont think they announced this ban at all?
Ive never died to hurl weapon. And nobody really uses it
Idk why they add useless skills and perks
its more weird to leave the skill in-game and then just have a message pop up everytime you try loading in with it saying you cant lol
Damn even HR has the ban message on hurl weapon when you load in... this just an oversight?
the fuck? IM fix yo game. just died on some BS when a skele axe did the overhead swing, so I strafed right and was 2/3 of the way BEHIND him when I got hit for 70% of my hp??? hello?
no patch? bruh
Is the patch supposed to be out now or is it tonight / friday morning for SK? If we don't get a patch for a 3rd week, especially with miner being an unfunctional merchant and wipe in a month, that makes me very anxious about next season...
They’re hard at work on trout fishing simulator rn can’t keep wasting resources on dark
so much fun lost when 90% of players are running tank fighter or barb
My report numbers turned yellow
welcome to the patch game sucks
Do you love the 50$ coffee cup merch though? Ironmace is doing a great job!
over 50% of arena warlords right now are fighter and barb it’s so cool
@native reef was that you in gobbos? if so, good seeing you around!
Dwarf buff tomorrow?
Why is market fucked?
market is good now. it unfucked.
also, end of season announced at the same time most people getting their quest chest
just sad, its the same cookie cutter crap each season. buff a class or 2, everyone hops on those class wagons, then IM buffs the cash shop and goes on vaca the rest of the season...
love loading into a game with 5min left too bc my connection to the server terminates abnormally going thru a redgate and I have to just hope no one gets me killed in the meantime
i think koreans have a fixation on big men and not little ones. so barb buff and dwarf nerf most likely
wdym, they promised us 2 class reworks they will implement at the last patch of season 1 week before wipe
Hello, so I have a question. If I die in PvE run do I get all of my gear back EVERYTIME or is it just something, sometimes?
pve should be all every time
bro buy why madrinas have to get rid of the Mug and replace it with a shaker 
the sitting emote was better than this emote too
As long as you dont fall off the map on ice cave you get it back
all around downgrade
6 more hrs
gobbo works with void now
at least he should unless ironmonkey’s code shit itself again
Crazy, whats even the risk anymore except from full unique dudes pub stomping the HR lobbies
Full unique isn’t the best route when it comes to gearing
who knows that new ironmace game bout to be hype tho W sdf
Bring back pregame lobby
the game is becoming really hard to enjoy again
$50 for some chocolate and a emote are we deadass??
Yoo
Did yall see N Fuentes be playing Dark and Darker
does dirt drop from mummies or zombies? I forget
For the quest where you gotta switch off 10 torches, do they actually have to be torches or any interactable lightsource?
like grave essence
Zombies
If its full unique +9 vig and dex with base strength roles its gonna best my shitty kit every time
why can devs never make the meta more interesting than hold W and win
Would rather there be no meta and everything be balanced
havent played for a while, which class is good in solo right now
Lmao
Bard, ranger, fighter
LMFAO the barb icom
Well yeah, haven’t played in a while either but that’s what i’ve mainly died to
Warlock too, but warlock has always been bullshit
you realize your class is the most broken?
As far as i’m aware, no, but i just run into full blue in normals when i’m trynna make money with squire gear
Kinda hate that they took away gear based matchmaking. Just gets me into lobbies where i stand no chance
Basically
patchie patchie
Patch today?
i transfered from chaf games to steam, i have a hold the line edition. my old computer died and redownloading the game i dont have my past content and i am confused
whats the best way/class/build to kill cavetroll? squire prefferably
y
bard
kind of insane that last night i loaded into gobby caves at 3am in like 30 seconds but today ive been in queue for 4 minutes. wtf is htis
okay this is probably a glitch ig because i cant cancel queue either
bloodthirst is just cheating bro, god damn that heal can facetank
You lost your gear. Be quick and alt f 4 and relog your in a game. Same shit happens with my duos
Yo if I transfer my account to steam do my hours remain the same or will the counter reset?
yeah i just did that, thankfully im still alive but the dungeon is half through so its gonna be rough
its like my second highroller run lmao kms
transfer you keep the hours
Patch today or?
Bet, ty
HAHAHA M1 BUG INGAME IS SO FUN!!!!!!
THIS GAME IS SO SHIT
is epic the highest item tier you can find in adventure mode? so going there would only be for the purpose of practicing the boss rather than actual loot
jesus fucking christ this game is so fucking bad
then dont play it?
blocked for being incapable of reading
lmao
that was the quickest trigger ive ever seen in my life
m1 bug sucks, but its bug not the whole game bro i can read fine
unfixable m1 bug hahahahahhaha so fun i lose my gear to fucking this shit
you have a right to be mad ill give you that
whati is m1 bug
but the games not bad it literally just has a bug
game thinks m1 input is constantly pressed
i cant do wnything but swing
lol
i havent got the bug in a while but does it prevent f to loot and drag to loot? i def remember you cant left click loot
does the alt drag fix still work or is it fully scuff now?
everyone on barbs, no nerfs,, every wipe just some new unbalance. player numbers plumeted again.. @hexed adder any updates???
why did chests drop so much??
Will we get fishing before SDF drops his new game? I really hope so. I’ve been dying to fish in the dungeons with the homies.
genuinly who the fuck designed the cockkatrice merchant like can u make this shit even 1% usefull please
Everyone in here always complaining about the wrong shit. Who cares about m1 bug, who cares about cocatrice merchant. Where the fuck are the fishable fish man?
I like chocolate milk
didnt we like
add true damage a year or two ago because PDR monsters were stone cold meta?
did we not learn anything?
How many warnings do I get before I lose talking privileges? I got alot more then I thought ngl pretty sure its bots not wardens cuz some of it isint even that racist
Lil too dark for me
youre 12 years old
Mentally maybe cant argue that
Nothing wrong with being 12 I wish I can be 12 again
being an adult and acting like youre 12 presents some issues though
No because the new game sdf is making is a fishing game
As long as I don’t let the no no word out in public its fine
Well it’s the internet I think anyone can put out any personality they like
When do patch notes drop usually
3-4am
but sometimes they're ambiguous even tho they have someone hired to communicate with the community, its just not an option ig
Is that Korean timezone
nah EST
Damn so we get nothing today then rip
we got dark and darker coffee again tho W
Ya lol
surely that makes sense to do now rather than after their marketing campaign next szn
“Patch notes” is just them changing stuff no one asked for
Auto sort coming tho isn't it
I don’t believe it, too good to be true
so much different has happend in this game, which merchant buys treasure now :S
same way skill trees are yea
The collector but some treasures are worth more on market for quests and stuff
I just want to be able to click a button and my pots and bandages are bought the exact amount in the exact spot in my inv every time
Fr I need them squire kits to come with 5 stacks of each for those risky games where I try to vulture kits from gear people
yo when this game gonna get revived?
When a new company buys it out
when they dont wait to nerf obvious broken things for months at a time
@misty ridge I just saw you r fighter in a vid
yea im not playing this shit
fighting barbarians simulator is not a fun game, maybe dont wait 3 months to change up the stale boring meta and playerbase wouldnt be sub 3k
@atomic stump go ahead and hit go live lil bro 🤣
oh no, who clowned on me
Or is it a different chost buy a stinky stick you meant to tag
there's a lot of chost buy a stinky sticks
out here complaining about barbs when all I see is fighter
Is there a page or something identifying everything from the QnA?
This one is created by SoBadStrange, and is a very good TL;DR https://docs.google.com/document/d/1q5VrxzJg82UJ-k30dFnkaea2GNHweR3H-yPLVizF1TA/edit?tab=t.0
IRONMACE Dev Q&A Mar 12thWritten by SoBadStrange - Twitch Q&A from Ironmace - TwitchFormatting by Warden Nessi Start of stream notes: Ironmace will host a Dev Q&A every wipe going forward on their own socials and try to upload them to Youtube. The game is overall better this season. The wo...
Ty ty
Alternatively, here is the youtube vod if you want to actually watch it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx_JAm2W6CM
Dark and Darker March 2026 Developer Q&A
when patch with motorcycles?
after the space monk
when are they adding ak47 for barb it need buff
He said every week
Anyone else getting connection to server terminated abnormally?
Paul OP
Hail paul
Aura too strong
Happens if u got shitty wifi, the servers dookey so u need ethernet to no lag even in native servers. If you plug Ethernet in mid game it disconnects
paul aura farming in the corner
Every single game without fail on ruins and goblin I get teamed on. Idk why I ever ever leave ice caves lol. So stupid
Must never go down. Ice has many cheaters and teamers because it's so dead and easy to own lobbys
just encountered a bug where the lever in the ice abyss false throne module said "lever broken" yet the throne itself was still blocking the entrance. no way to get in
In arena wiz wakes up spams all spells goes to sleep for next round wakes up repeats just like the actual game so clearly we need to balance around the SUBgamemode
Imagine fishing in the dungeons with the boys. Holy. Cant wait.
Grab some ale maybe some lukewarm stews
any mods who can help me recover my account

did old accounts get deleted ?
Mods don't handle that in here. You'd have to contact support via the dark and darker website
i have some questions to ask
You see the Gypsy Crusader vs Supa hot fire fight?
i remember transferring my account from the epic games launcher but now i cant find it
You can not reconcile the differences between the dungeons and the room you play arena in they just need different balancing. Don't forsake the Chad solo wizards for those that worship at the altar of arena leaderboards only they look at
I have not. Is this like an anime fight or?
Again sadly you'll have to contact the support team on the dark and darker website.
so what are you
Discord Server Moderator
Nah boxing, some adin ross startup thing
We only handle discord related issues
i like 🧀
Oooooh no I haven't but ill go look. I like a good boxing match or mma.
what kind?
my favorite is Utrech Aged Gouda
nutty, sweet, aromatic with pine
and umami to blow ur taste buds out
whats your fav?
Dang im a simple cheese kinda guy, colbyjack or monterey
nah LK jack and monterey are BIS for spicy melty stuff i respect the hussle
everycheese has his meal to shine in
Nah not that good of a fight but the fighters were out of pocket lol
Literally for grilled cheese or to go on a spicy chicken sandwhich
which has more players steam or the tavern launcher
aw hell yea grilled cheese is awesome i love adding some pickled oignons
idk good question. I use Tavern
No you are professional IM mod with knowledge on everything IM has ever breathed on with sdf on speed dial
Real question mayo or butter for the bread?
if u have a choise id use steam? its not like playuing on blacksmith u cant play w ppl on steam and vice versa
Lol Skinny pete had his stream convinced I was secretly SDF for like 3 weeks
good goood thats the only correct answer
theres 5k players on steam
thats nothing id assume compared to blacksmith
i have never tried using mayo for a grilled cheese instead of butter 🤔 maybe i should try it
@languid pollen
not nusyarg
It is just soy oil
But thats got a half life of like 8 years in the body
And the only thing I know that can get rid of it is tamarind
But who eats tamarind?!
yeah its a chef trick, the mayo kinda grills and makes the bread golden brown instead of just brown. creates a kind of a crust and salts the outside of the bread.
Hey Saint
i think youre confused! just choose whichever launcher you want, you have access to the exact same game...
Howdy!
Player count is same both launchers
Blacksmith and steam players share same servers
How we doing
mayo grilled cheese slaps
Sounds crazy but rlly isn’t
yeah they do!
2 weeks and still no update??? Por que???
1 week 
I think they are going back to semiweekly
In exception for bug fixes
That is just speculation though don’t take my word for it
Last patch was 3/6/26… tomorrow will be the 2 week mark
its been 2 weeks
SPECULATION IS POWER
So far so good! how about yourself
I’ll cut them some slack, some people don’t know how to count there days.
Make an app I can use to access the in game market
so it has been 1 week 6 days not 2 weeks
lol seems like it
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i like tamarind! i have some for some indian dishes
but what do you mean about soy oil? most are canola oil and i use olive oil mayo
And then make the app purchasable on the Apple Store for $50 USD to get money to hire more competent devs!!
you can also make a crazy good drink with tamarind
when is the next wipe¿?
let me know about the thing about soy oil having a 8 year life in your body tho im quite health savvy
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I lost 200k because I was at work and couldn't list my spec bags
Gg
It’s not that deep lol
It really is that deep
Its pixels 🥱
Not to everyone
Greed…
Regardless announcing wipe estimated time robbed me
if you say allat why do you care for how long its been for an update
I’m ready for the rogue rework brotha!!
the what
That's not gunna happen XD
What are you even on about
I have like 65k gold bro 🤣 I don’t care to sell anything
I had 600k in items and 120k in pure gold coins so what
It’s mid wipe already. They stated the rogue and ranger update was coming THIS wipe. I would only speculate that it’s coming up soon given its mid wipe.
rogue and ranger update?
Watch them buff them both
impossible
Yeah… just like fighter and barb got new perks and skills.
gotta wait 5 more wipes for wizard update
Rogue and ranger will get new perks and skills… next wipe cleric and wiz will get new perks and skills
then for sorcerer etc
i had a row of spectral bags when the drop happened
im not bothered just thinkin i shoulda waited to buy storage (like every season)
Anyone else poopin at work rn?
i just like having it super neat
😕 gg I got a call from a buddy when I was at work and he said hurry up and sell your bags they just dropped to 50k and I couldn't leave so when I got home they where only 20k and I had them at like 80k per
The fact I have to actually treat this game like a real life stock market is criminal
All because the dev said yeah wipes about a month and some change away
Infinitely less than the other maps. And its probably because less people but still. Ice caves is brighter, easier to maneuver too. At least for me on warlock.
got killed by barb without 2 talants with ECHO xd is there dupe or what?
Caring about what your items are worth is the mistake there
If you really cared you’d sell them before this happens not wait until the last minute
Is there a level req for arena?
20
maybe a hacker, maybe a dupe, or maybe someone didnt want to wait to level their barb and had an echo already
thanks!
the game be dead now
no its about the same it has been
no that game is dead lmao iv ran 12 games finding no body on east
gang the playerbase is already struggling and you’re running at a time where people are likely still doing their normal life shit
Ya warlock owns that map. Im also on west im sure each server is different
They just got off work hemie
did they remove treasure hoards from the middle of water map?
what map tho
its popular spot, might be gone if you don't get there fast
I spawned there and found none
well its boring af lmao
can anyone tell me how much a gold coin chest and spectral bags hold this season?
spec 5k chest 25k
is there no collector quest for an accessory?
Going pretty good! New job soontm
Last patch was the 11th sir
Nice! I'm moving for work soon so i get the excitement! hope it goes well!
Nice to hear brother, you as well 🫡
2 hrs 30 left :D
Arena let’s goo
am debating spending the next 2 hrs bissing out my pirate
Cleric time for me
I don’t got BIS but I can heal mighty well
you gotta get that bis before prices go up
ngl, sell the IP to Ubisoft and it'll take off
allowing up toblue in norm is one of the worst changes theyve ever made
if you want to use just squire gear then play the squire to riches mode. if you want to use all gear then play high roller
If I wasn’t out right now running errands I would
and go against three mans

Skins are now in loot boxes and we are now forced to use Ubisoft connect to play with friends

theres a lfg here that you can use
Look what you have done
Run no fill off
Best way to learn PvP imo
Random comps
need a gear expert to price check a set i have dm
7 gold
damn
im not saying youre wrong but i dont want to play with a random. i would understand if the whole game was trios only. super lame i either have to get outgeared, outnumbered, or play with someone i dont want to play with
Where are the fishable fish Paul?
you can play solo pve until you get some gear for normals
anyone who got the Pourin One Out Collector's Box know how long the coffee lasts before going bad? or does coffee even go bad? idk itll be my first time buying coffee to make for myself.
Patch wen?
are there quests that reward cosmetics this wipe and if so are they out?
usually coffee doesn't go bad, but gets stale and loses potency
isnt it instant freeze dried coffee? basically last forever
If IM gives me free coffee set I’ll play again. Limited time offer
My report numbers turned yellow
they give you a tub of some shit and that would likely last forever yeh, they give a bag of beans tho those could def go stale
Yo
@dreamy vine sent dm
any creator codes out there that want me to use them?
love how i got that coffee for the emote i thought was a 1 time deal just so it could get re released later
You can freeze coffee
Scalpers L
i didnt even drink the coffee lmao its still sitting upstairs untouched and im not a scalper i purchased only 1 for the emote
Fair nuff, might be time to find a prefill trio
But the coffee