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It's probably me, but I guess what I'm saying is like actually hitting the target. (Main druid healer arena)
You absolutely can money is super easy to make right now
dont need uniques to kill people
mysterious potions drop rates are the same in PVE than HR?
Because I'm not spending a troll pelt on a single potion when I need 5
no dani
i dont think they drop in pve? no idea tho
has collecter and other merchants gotten the quest for iteem skins yet?
there is no quest you buy it?
ussually theres a cosmetic item at the eend of a questline on certain merchants
???
Workshops are really cool... but i wish there was some kind of minor benefit to making your own gear rather than finding it. I mean, apart from eventually getting to pump out uniques.
shouldnt be able to pump out uniques imo
It's not exactly cheap
I mean
Considering it costs like 100k if you want to max it out without running ruins 80 times for logs or finding your items to scrap I think it's fair
yea, me too. Although i am absolutely running ruins for logs. There's a VERY strong secondary market for those right now.
Just, it would be nice if we had better odds of getting higher rolls on stats than just finding something if our forge is maxed out or whatever. And our created gear isn't even minted right now... that's gota change.
has anyone found an ember gem
can i pull a name in the firedeep bossroom lootfile
no
max roll for action speed on a chest piece is 3% right
anyone seen a ember gem
They are legendary rarity no? Cant drop in PvE iโd assume, since limit is purples
are the no repercussions for saying certian words in vc
Depends on what you say
In other words: Yes, their 100% are
By the way can you get the mysterious potion from norms?
i finished all armourer quests but cant craft gold gear? Can someone tell me what im missing?
If you just finished, it can take some time to refresh.
thanks
The workshop is ass and way too grindy for zero gain
There is gain at tier 5
Imagine spending a legit two hours plus simply hitting trees
you don't need to
Don't even go into you can buy it
It's a terrible money sink that I spent six solid hours upgrading ONE to level three.
And it's far too expensive and annoying
I mean I gotta agree
Like. We're mid wipe.
Early-mid wipe
Agree on that
But then again
You getting a magical interaction speed cloak
That sh!t is worthless, right?
Imagine this
spending a bit to rebuild it
You can literally roll the same thing you already have
and get
And that's not the point
Okay but you can also get 99 other worthless things
It's gambling
And it's far too expensive on lower tiers
yea what's the point of the workshop besides being another point of failure for possible dupes?
rerolling gear
anyone help me kill skele warlord for quest? need 2
where do u get the pocket watch?
Is offering warlock not the most broken thing rn?
Probably is
Not even artifact kits be hitting that hard
Makes sense...So not just me getting instantly deleted
I mean
55% physical damage and 78% magical damage bonus
On a purple crystal ball
If they are build for at least 20% magic pen
That's 20 (1.0)
That 1.0 being sacled by 8 for the crystal ball
28 base
+78%
That's... uhhh
Let's round down to 50
Crazy
I dont even get how people play this game anymore with all the cheating/teaming loll
x2
100 damage
You get headshotted and die
Not even counting the curse of pain
One straight dark bolt to the face
you flop and die
Can confirm that
And I didn't took into account the +4 add magical damage
Or the most BIS'd out kit version of the build that includes a mana sphere
which is an additional +1 true mag damage
But in this case add magical damage is better because it get's doubled and boosted
I'm not sure if the only counter is ranger with purge shot
Not sure if that gets rid of the dark offering but
how much gold does a spectral coin bag hold?
7.5k
If there is anyone willing to pick up a Community Project with me of making detailed maps with all information from data files - including items, drop rate, monsters, quests - please DM! I already started with latest map but any help would be appreciated! ๐
Bro how the hell do peopel catch up to me when Im in the wyverns elevator thing?
Like I got on first and am a good bit above them, next thing I know, they are stabbing me
How the hell do they catch up????
is deathbloom = chest ?
Stupid bullshit boss griefers, cant do it on their own
that is all already on darkanddarkertracker?
anyone ?
It's 2 chest
This is 75% outdated, including maps.
no, they updated. even volcano is on there
also droprates, i''m seeing now
Done bossing on NA servers, time to play in OCE
So how useless is the workshop ? Beside being a money drain gambling feature
I mean
You can reroll useless uniques
So hard to get unique weapons are way more accessible
The cost is too high though. A unique Diamond and 1k for a weapon reroll is rough
1k? thought it'd be 250 wtf
They gotta tone it down a little after the money is drained
I'm fine with it being expensive asf to get to level 5
But that's kinda crazy
My memory says 1k for unique, but it's been a few hours since I ran it. Night have been 250 for the reroll and 1k to go legend unique. Would have to check again
Also different gems for the different vendors. Tailor took blue gems, weapon smith was diamond. Have not got the other 2 high enough yet but I assume those use ruby and the other one
leathersmith emerald
saw a vid of someone doing gambling
but like
literal gambling
mf bought a stash full of riveted gloves legendary
a stash full of scraps and unique emeralds
and got cranking the slot machine
he ended up with 40k profit because of some armor pen and high dex rolls
what are the gold chest chance rates in horde?
Is it impossible to get the lower quality wood?
Go to pve?
Honestly, if you have a ton of moeny youll likely make money off the gambling
Theres tons of good rolls
wasn't that repoze? He makes during evening more gold than most players here during a season
no, it was ryze
i checked on the two i got maxed out:
Weaponsmith:
craft unique : 30 unique scrap+ 1000 gold
rebuild (reroll) unique : 20 unique scrap + 2500 gold
enhance legend into unique: 25 legend scrap + 1 unique diamond
same for tailor, but with a Blue sapphire instead of diamond
can troll drop named
no 1st floor boss can except malestrom ones
Make slayer fighter worthless, it requires no skill, only M1 spamming
Heck. I was like, sure, maybe I can do the Workshop thing ...
But yeah, if the price of rerolling / crafting unique is that high ... might as well just play the game
yeh, it is rough. This isnt even including the close 100k you'll spend per workshop to unlock them to lvl5, You can buy a lot of nice gear on the market for that amount of gold.
LIke ... Merchant's quests make sense in a perspective of the game, and you can do them "normally" while not actively trying to finish them.
But who are you paying ungoldy amounts of gold to?
If the workshops aren't reset between wipes, sure
But I doubt they will be spared
nah cause then u crafting op uniques on ssf
is there any way to get darkness shards consitantly in arena or nah?
Still would require sufficient unique scraps and thousands of gold. In SSF, I feel like that would still be reasonable, especially if it's a goal that all can access to after a season or two
legendarys...
i get shit loads of legenderies
Or tie it with the quest system, where you can't craft a certain level without the matching relationship with the merchant. or heck, arena ranking
is there a good way to find the accurate market price of things while still in game
check the market?
what is the price to REBUILD uniques?
Anyone else keep getting a bug where it just says looking for game constantly but wont let you cancel so you close the game and you re open it and you're in game
DOES MAGIC PEN WORK ONLY FOR BONUS MDR?
anyone with intelligence pls ๐
well, its % so yes, its not flat MDR removal, like bards flue song for armor
lmaoooooooo
Not really
But you can roughly do this:
Most expensive things: Armor pen, phys damage bonus, add weapon damage, 2-3 stat rolls on pieces that are not garbage (not worth much on knowledge apparently)
Most expensive items: riveted gloves, heavy leather leggins, cloth leggins
no
Then crafted items
Then jewelry, if gemmed properly they are worth a lot (+3k)
Then if you are feeling big brain
Go into youtube
Look up for the most viral recent DaD video
the more "OP BUILD", "BROKEN", "THIS GOT ME SO MUCH BIS" or "WILL BE NERFED 100%" you see in the thumbnail the better
You go to the end or start, check the pieces he used, and those will be 40% more expensive than before the video
ye that is a method
lol
just trend items
Also bardiches and halberds are incredibly expensive if they're good, spears too, people like running bard a lot so rapiers are good too
Adventurer's boots and heavy boots are also expensive as of late
and green quality and above gear starts at 200 the cheapest because of workshop
I gotta say the devs outdid themselves
AHEM
I never expected for them to be able to make a money sink that effective
to combat the dupe
where do the trios go to fight now? forgotten castle i see is bare and naked
spectral knight, bridge
if not walk like a headless chicken if you're feeling lucky
every other spot has roughly the same chance to find people
Oh and the golden chests rooms
There are some... sometimes
don't expect much
we have ran like 10 rounds they are both new and ran into maybe two groups total
do people just not queue up castle?
it is the most queued map
i would but they crave blood
and run to troll
new players neve do bosses
well they try and die miserably or die to mobs
specially in HR
mhmm mhmm as it was written in stone all must pave their way in blood and tears
If you are kitted enough run gobby caves
clear cyclops and troll
go to the middle room
and wait to get run down by rogues, bards and barbs
never failed me
and if it fails you get 20 gold out
also are lobbies gear score matched now orrrr
Don't think so
I run in squire and one time got mauled by a leviathan angry barb
I mean
with the right setup
I might have had a fighting chance to kill that in squire
but that is too situational
Hmmmmmm.
can we get a vote to make the glowing mummy and infrit skins not glow in the dark??
how do you sheath?
x
Can you parry with any weapon now?
yes
not book, bows, gun or crystal ball tho ๐
Did they change movement speed too? Im back after a while and people seem to be switching weapons a lot faster and without slowing down
yes, also not jump casting.
less movement overall
Like do or dont? Cause I was always a bunny caster
dont you're slower than just casting now
what quality gear can be brought into arena these days
Epic
ty
YO, are the severs down rn ? Cant connect, anyone know ?
epic response time
All working for me ๐
whos got a good video out on the changes?
maybe glocktane?
idk youll notice instantly
it feels like a whole new system compared to when i left, combat moves completely different, pressure and call dynamics have all seemed to been affected i like it.
ty for the reply'
yea all my spacing was messed up for a bit
the no jump casting thing sucks tho. it also makes apex sorcery useless
no fr, some of these bards and rogues man im like theres no way i didnt close that gap
do you cast faster not moving?
if so I disagree, at least for trios, i rarely moved when in trios unless i was actively being pressured cause good positioning with your team makes it easy to focus on just casting and aiding
it doesnt matter how fast you cast with apex since it just stops you completely
and you have to wait for the full animation too
solo might be dead for that but trios is easy to work with ill have to scope out all the new perks and changes
Are there any new minor artifacts? I have not played in almost a year.
Tanglethread Legs
Stillmend Boots
Wanderlight Lantern
Any others? Pls @ me!
from the legendary creatures?
Yes
theres a cool staff from the frozen imps
Anything else?
Nothing new.
Hazeblade, bloossap
Whats the staff called?
ill get on and see
Ok so staff from frozen imps, spiked gauntlet, haze blade, bloodsap, tanglethread, stillmend, and wanderlight. Is that all @vagrant fulcrum ?
wait hazeblade and bloodslap are new?
spell plunder rod
that i can think of now on top of my head, yes.
Just no new one, at least
They've been around since the introduction of semi-artifacts
Bloodsap Blade
Stillmend Boots
Wonderlight Lantern
Haze Blade
Spellplunder Rod
Thorn Shield
spiked gauntlet is a crafted thing, my b
Tanglethreads trousers too
cool i just found that list when i looked it up
Sorry to bother you I was falsely banned and was wondering how I could or if I can contact staff besides appeals I have appealed but wondering if there is a way to speed it up
For in-game ban appeals you should contact the official support team which you can find here: https://darkanddarker.com/support/contact. Keep in mind that there is a lot of incoming traffic at the moment, this results in response times varying.
During a temporary ban, your account is under review for cheating and if found to be innocent, you will be unbanned shortly after. Developers will not accept any appeals about temporary bans, so please wait for them to complete their review process.
haha that's what you get for giving them 30 dollars
?

wdym?
i mean give them another 30 under another account and get banned again
the false bans are crazy this round
where are some skele axemen on ruins? trying to remember
yeah myself and 1 of my friends and three of his friends got banned ofc were the guys that sold items for chests so gg was so stoked to check out the new features when i got off work to find my account was banned kinda a joke if you ask me
so im new here but I just have one question. where are all the rings and necklaces? did they lower the drop rate or smth
i can't get two green accessories for the squire because of this
yeah i spent maybe 50 hours in 1 week on trading post so i wonder if they thought i was some china acc or sumthing just mad that i cant play over the week end or untill they unban me
i had around 3 pages of specs bags 154 ish
any one know how to get spiked gauntlets?
craft
yeah i got my cheese up doing trades after work finally got my arena kit played one day with it then banned
same lol
i mean the same thing happened when Vincent dupped Lads but i wont get my weekend back :/
so next season
crazy stuff if you ask me they need a team working on this for sure i will get it back eventually but this is so buns.
why were you banned tho
they said exploitation? but i never did anything at all! i only traded and played the game ive never done anything... if using named and clapping kids is exploitation or selling items on market is doing that then the games cooked...
anyone found a fix for the "Failed to connect to the server" thing?
can I get like at least 1 spectral fabric and 1 troll pelt per day from dealmaker right?
Do I need rep with the goblin to get recoveries?
they should have showed you a video or screenshot
my boy was banned for "teaming" and got one
yeah there was no provocation for this action.
you need to craft them
free the cutlass, un nerf it please, nobody complained
you need to go to gold smith
really? huh. thanks so much!!
ofc! gl out there
If I switch character while I wait to get a kit back from the golbin merchant does it still show up when I return to that class
yes but there is a time limit for rcovery
LF Someone to help kill Wyvern please for Quest
Would you want magical damage bonus on a Void Blade, or additional weapon damage?
It's currently got 3 phys power, 2.8% action speed and 3 magical power.
How long till the goblin merchants has ur gear?
less than 1 hour, I'd say 30 min is safe
Nerf Silence to 0.1s on every skill...
3 seconds of silence, where is the balance from this game?
Examples:
Bard needs 1s to cause like 2s of silence, with a good range
its hilarious how much stronger warlock is to sorc
Be me: Kill spectral knight in 5 minutes: Bard takes old rusty key, bard goes down with me, bard refuses to use key to be a duck
Game still caster meta?
I wouldnโt even play pve if I wasnโt so damn laggy
What gamemode was ever caster meta?
Duos is the only thing that can come close lol
would be absolutely great if the game said 'are u sure u wanna go solo in a duo queue?'
Or just be more mindful.
when the dungeon closes, so depends on which map you were on
duos trios arena
Wiz was pretty much always slotted into a double frontline or cleric + FL comp for trios and arena.
yeah you asked when was it ever caster meta, it's been caster meta on and off since the game launched
can someone explain how healing is okay in this current meta? your only antri heal is poisionw epaon and boc both melee and your newly nerfed fire master.
meanwhile cleric gets to nuke your team with locust and holy dtrikes
Any1 help me kill lich/warlord?
Also a real cancer in Solo depending on what you play. I get that you're not supposed to have a fair match with all classes in this game. But it just seems so exsessive, 4 different knockbacks and more spells you can use to block doors as you kite your victim and burn him down. Not to mention panther bashing ur shins 6 times a second for a very hot minute, this not that bad anymore. just seems like if ur not caster ur gonna get cooked 80% of ur games, especially in arena.
Needed help to finish Warlord & Lich quest any1 help <3?
cleric and druid healing deserve a fat nerf
or add a lot more antiheal
how much are mystical gems worth
0
they only last for the 1 dungeon they are in
you have to use it when you find it or lose it
just came back to the game im level 20 - my goblin merchant did not bring back any of my gear. is this intended? we died to the timer of map ending
You need to complete his quests
how does it work? do you get better chance of returned items if more quests completed? my friends are same lvl with no quests done and they both got it back
in pve?
It's based on the amount of reputation you have with him, and which floor in the dungeon you died on
we were running to red gate and timer ran out so yeah nobody looted us
Weird maybe I got lucky then since they got it back
Unlucky *
what are the best cleric boots for arena
additional
Incidentally that's what I decided upon with no input, thanks! Trying to sell it now though, doesn't vibe with me lmao.
Why has my cockatrice not given me a single thing? its fully quested
When you fall into void in ice map pve, you get your gear back?
Yes. If I recall was a change last season.
why can a barbarian with a full tunic out run me wearing an adventure claok.... this game is seriously a fkin joke
leather leggings and squire gear
seriously such a joke
is anyone else has server issues with darker? even the inventory is glitching right now and i been disconnected once already
Do magic protection pots or eldritch sheild scale based on MDR?
i just got dced
yeap, its the servers then... ffs its been like that for around a week now. back and forth
btw why theres no squire to riches solo btw?
like why u need to play trio to play like that
I love going from 5k in my stash to over 35k in items on the market in just an hour lol
Economy in this game is always fun
ya its honestly a little too easy now. i remember when this game was actually hardcore and we were happy to leave the dungeon with 100-300 gold in loot
are solo queue's still in ?
Just for some classโฆ because if you want to work for Ironmace, you probably have to be lobotomized first, otherwise they wonโt hire you. Or i dont understand this patches in last 2 years ๐ซฃ๐๐
Evening all!
How goes the Workshop? Everyone have it all upgraded?
Same, and It was a big investment
Still funny that the troll is resistant to fire
i just DIED TO WARLORDS initial explosion , completely forgeting about it in HR . im speechless :DDDDD
i was just running past to another module
big brain here
i was wearing BIS btw)))
heh
Is hide totally gimped atm? does it help at all if you slow crouch walk in invi next to player ?
pickpocketing is made hard nowadays..
CAN WE PLEASE NERF FUCKING BOWS
Why is it that a fighter in full fking armor is faster than me as a caster
and can hunt me down with fking bows
make it make sense
the same shit is always broken in this game
seriously who are the devs besides SDF, we already know he doesnt read any of this
nothing will help, when they nerf something, players immediately improve their stats using additional bonuses, additional bonuses ruin the whole game
spell merge shouldnt be a perk
it should be automatic that im a sorc
i have to play perfectly, get insane gear
then just get 3 tapped by some fighter or barb running 3x faster than me
ok but he added +3 agi to each piece of equipment and thanks to these additional bonuses he caught you
This is the pathology of additional bonuses.
The Ranger should be a support, and thanks to additional bonuses, he can be the one who kills you in two shots.
It was the same last season when you could add True Phys. Damage almost everywhere and magically, instead of being a support class, Rogue was the one who went first and got two-hit kills.
i play solo not sure what you're talking about
i guess i have to build full agi just to not get caught
ohhhh but then my spells do 0 to the 200 HP 60% PDR barb and fighter
sick
would magical power on the stinky stick do more stinky damage?
I'm talking about the fact that due to the additional bonuses that can be had in items, we have problems where classes, instead of having their individual roles in the game, look like abominations, in your case Fighter, which instead of being slower than a light class, is faster than it in full armor
yo guys i have a quest with the goblin - interact with ash piles 0/4 where are those damn ash piles?
Iโm pretty sure they are in the dwarf hell
yeah but where exactly?
im there now
and i cant see no ash piles
nvm
just found one, thank you dude
now we can't play with friends who have a lot of difference from mmr in arena?
@fossil crescent wya
Thank you! 
not as many players they cant afford better servers
I also have dog water wifi with 66 ping, would Ethernet even help me at this point? I feel like xfinity is just so trash
Thinking about changing to At&T this shit is genuinely depressing, I come home from work to play my favorite game and it literally rubberbands
66 is bad?
That was a good pull let me do it again and show u
So you're rubberbanding all the time and on every map?
has anyone gotten "game failedto connet to server, quit the game" while in the game, like it just kicks you out of the lobby
Wait wtf now I have 18 ping but download speed is only 32mbs and upload is 18.97 idk if that matters. Maybe my pc is just getting old? I am rubberbanding in every map.
Could be packet loss
Is there a reason for this?
I mean there could be a lot of reasons. You said you're on wifi and not ethernet right?
Try restarting your router
where do gold chests spawn in crypt? I got the one behind the iron door but need 3 more
Yeah
There's the one in the module with the static blue, one in the under side of wheel, one in barracks, one in the module with a movable bookcase and a royal coffin surrounded by spike traps. Those are the ones off the top of my head
I'd try an ethernet connection first, if that doesn't work try restarting your router and modem, I don't have much else to offer because idk what your set up is like, what other software you're running, or what your network looks like
Does the upload speed matter? I think itโs slow
Ethernet is such a hassle for me because in this house the internet has to be upstairs and I play downstairs. I think Iโll need to run that shit all the way through the stairs idk
Is that 18.97Mbs?
Yeah
See I literally just restated it and now itโs 224 ping 171mbps download, and 85mbps which is โperfect connection โ
It's about average then.
That ping just now tho
Also my pcโs internet runs on something like this (https://www.walmart.com/ip/USB-3-0-WIFI-Adapter-600-1300mbps-Wireless-Dongle-Dual-Band-Antenna-2-4G-5G-A2C5/16670558537?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=102517452) idk if thatโs why itโs so slow
Yeah, really you just need to try ethernet first.
Ok I guess all questions have the same simple solution
Ty
ironically just got my first drop, 2 epic and 3 rare gems lmfao
Ah well at least it's something.๐
Also just got mine , 2 rare 2 epic, 1 royal.
Report all healers in arena for cheating
how much is a gold chest worth? jsut got one
any fighter mains got tips for rangers? I seem to die to ranger more often then not. I feel like an NPC as they backup and spear and shoot me...
use a bow of your own to scare them off, just gotta work around them since the chances of you chasing and catching them are pretty low
I guess im guilty of putting my bow away too soon, i try to smack em with my sword not backup and trade shots...
can somone give me a hybrid druid build
honestly, trading shots is only good to scare them off you so you can do your own stuff, if the ranger wants to run you don't have much in the ways of forcing a fight. I hardly ever chase rangers or rogues since they move so much faster
Does anyone know the chance of regular hoard chest spawning on Blue Maelstrom or how many Hoard chests can spawn at a time?
What is it with every single person now just able to effortlessly follow you through closing doors
just extracted and randomly losst my gloves and primary weapon?? wwas in solos wtf
I think they buffed how fast people open doors, even as cleric you can open them so fast now
No I am saying people just W through absolutely anything now in any gear
Rush in defense stance with barely hands
Did they also buff shields so no part of anyone's head sticks out? I'm no longer able to hit people with certain shields
ok im done with this game
fighter stupid OP no changes whatever
uninstall yet again
do we get a ping or a refund when this game is sold eventually
that'd be great!
banner is -2 but they can still catch squishy classes while wielding two handers :))))
in full plate!
or use a bow or white cross bow
barb at least has ripostes now, slayer fighter is still a w key stat check build
all fighters are stat checks
What do the Navigator and Miner do? Pls @ me!
anyone else seeing ppl getting false banned?
how does rating gain work for arenas?
When u win it go up when lose it go down
Passively making 70k off the market while questing is nice
cheaters like to claim that they get false banned all the time
what quest pays that much salad?
Does anyone play hybrid Druid in arena
try the druid channel
Playing the market in between quests
ah gotcha gotcha
Just made a bag off of 2k from the market lmao
wtf why did gold coin bags half in price
Dupers got banned
So way less inflation
Thats why I sold literally all my bags and have a character with 3 stashes of coin purses
And invested in other smaller things
That seems backwards. If there were less bags wouldnt the price go up?
Dupers were inflating economy by buying everything and reuploading it at a much higher price. Its stabalizing now.
Basically pumping the market
well rip i just bought one for 28k last night
Sold all my spec bags when they were 80k, maxed religion, bought 3 nice arena kits, and then invested the rest in ultimate gems
Im still selling every bag I get because IM expecting the price to drop to around 8 to 10k for a bag
I only have 3 bags, never found one
Havent found any either, but have found artis that Ive traded
Plus, I know how to make money on the market, have 100k on the market atm. Started at 5k today
WHY IS EVERY RANDOM IN ARENA AFK
what is with the blatant preteaming in normals, why do i have to 2v1 every single fight and why do the devs just ignore everything
i dont understand this game
a lot of the teaming that happens in norms is because 2 people who decided they didnt wanna fight eachother crossed paths, and in the large majority of cases these 2 dudes wont attack u either if u dont attack them first... not saying its a good thing or I like it, but in msot cases u can avoid the 2v1 if u dont attack somebody who seems to be chill with some other dude nearby
can you pull key from a chest if you arent on the same level as the door
in my experience ive only gotten keys for the floor that i am on
It's been a while since I played, what time does the hell portal open on forgotten castle normal pvp?
get "druid" role
you're not wrong, but if you are geared and the other 2 aren't they will jump you for your gear. Had the attempt happen to me plenty of times. I've also pretended to do It with a guy that asked me to, then I killed him Immediately after we killed the guy lol.
bro whoevers idea it was to get rid of the money duping glitch is so dumb they made the market crash so hard
thats just gonna be human nature, but if you went into normals in full gear you went in for PvP so kinda just suck it up lmao
also thats not pretending, u did team with that guy, just betrayed him after
Naw lol I come in with luck gear to hit piles lmao
Yeah I heard its not teaming if you immediately fight the other person after. He deserved it.
i mean ask the guy u ganged up on whether or not it was teaming lol
if u died to 2 guys workin together to kill ya u would call it teaming
well he did most of the work. I just blocked the door till they were done fighting so no one could leave lol. threw a franny or 2 lol
So you only can 1v1? I cant kill someone together, but not actually together with someone, then kill that other person?
u dont gotta defend it, they dont ban people for teaming in normals
u are purposefully mis-understanding my friend... they specifically were talking about working together with somebody else to kill somebody more geared than both of u
I know because I've reported people that actually fought together, but didnt fight for the loot after. they just split my gear and left lmao. Nothing happened lol
two people attacking the same guy and 2 people working together to kill the same guy aint the same thing
teaming is only enforced in HR i believe, maybe squires to riches but I think just HR
Whats it matter if they fight after?
You're right. I wish they had something for the ESP kids. Their day will come
im confused on what it is your mad about... can you just explain what you think im saying is
I hope the new anti cheat is good
Who said I was mad?
Im trying to understand teaming. Like ive been killed by 2 people and they keep being friendly after. Other times, 2 people attack me and then eachother after. 1 is teaming and the other isnt? Or both are bannable?
They are getting a new one?
Preteaming is never okay, regardless of the mode
Friendly encounters are prohibited in HR
if they work together to kill somebody, it is teaming... specifically "work together" not just 2 people who are trying to kill the same guy, even if one of them decides to betray the other guy afterwards when he think's he is safe...
Is it enforced, and if so how does ironmace know?
btw this was never a discussion about the specific way they enforce the rules cuz we're talkin about normals, im using my own definition of what I consider teaming
no... this was already said... teaming is only enforced in HR
I thought norms anything goes besides preteaming?
how do i get the class roles
Yeah, but how do they know, also, do I get a ban report for teamers? I feel like im missing 6 of those for all the times I've been teamed on
bro your interrogating the wrong guy... I was never talking about how they enforce rules in HR
how do i get the class roles
we were having a conversation about why people team in normals
You are a funny guy lol. If you dont know thats fine lol
The conclusion of that conversation was what?
Yeah but I heard they gonna keep it to themselves and not say any information about it til its release so hackers dont have a cheat ready day one of the release
Hmm. Interesting. Hopefully it works!
multiple teams in a row that are just throwing the game then my last game had a blatent cheater ... arena is fun
lowkey if you play ranger, the burden of capitalism is so deserved
im glad disease and ailments and birth defects exist solely so theres a chance to affect them and their offspring
As a casual is there a class I can actually compete with without dumping all day into the game?
are redstone shards just not available to buy anymore?
fighter is on barb level now, can no longer be killed
Go barb or cleric, they can do a lot with default kits
tbh barb is the class I actually win more combats with but when I face casters or rangers without a real ranged option just cant do it
well yeah. thats the drawback of barb. very good in melee but doesnt have any actual range
Nah just bring 10 stacks of frannys
run iron will, rage, Achilles, hit them with torch, they are now dead
Naw, you right, what are the 20+ frannies for. picking teef i guess.
is anyone getting a bug were when u loot a item and wear it after extracting its gone it happend to me twice in solos
actualrange. barb doesnt have access to bows/magic. frannies barely count as range combat
Im a newish player, or i havent really done much, how would i go about partying here
hello gang
ik no one knows anythin about me
but can i borrow a chest rq? i wanna redeem some shit i sold for 25k (x2) so i can make arena build
anyone have a bug that deleted all your stashed gold after a run?
cleric with divine protection smite
yo i havent played in months, whats the best class/classes for pve?
hey, can someone tell me which npc to craft "Requiem of the Fiery" and what u need to craft them pls ?
When's druid gonna get block and riposte wwhile in form?
anyone else having server isues?
after they add penguin potion
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goblin caves my game jsut crashed to
FIX. TEAM. KILL. ARENA. TIMER. OR. UNINSTALL.
game has been halted. network
Oh nooo I splashed you for 10 damage in arena so now I cant play the game for 10 mins, stupid mechanic
Even tho we won lmao
Game literally unplayable with players abusing this every 3 matches
Anyone seen an ember gem ingame?
As someone who hasn't played in a bit, is the state of the game worth coming back to orrrrr?
Why dont you try it and form your own opinion
Because I don't wanna
still balance issues
Magma Falls quest weaponsmith where to find ? I be in every modul of second layer
There is 9 modules you got this lil bro
Have a 1 in 9 chance of spawning in the correct module
What does it look like? I've been in all the rooms.
does demon glee dmg still scale with will/mag power? or is it still nerfed?
๐you got this kogizavr its all about mystery
PLEASE NERF HEALING DRUID AND CLERIC IN ARENA, THERE IS NO SKILL EXPRESSION IN THAT! THE AMOUNT OF GAMES IVE SEEN WITH THEM HAVING 0 DAMAGE AND ONLY HEALS IS DISGUSTING!
what is the perks for fighter's war hammer arena build?
Thank you for an actual answer :)
anyone noticing like micro framedrops?
where use golden key
So when are the sorc & barb nerfs comin?
Does this game randomly kick anyone else after a match then doesnโt load for like 2 minutes?
sorc is the worst designed class
this is not a skill based game, it is who can dupe gold and buy the most stats
BUFF STILLMEND BOOTS USELESS ITEM
deserved for playing a puss class
Does anyone know the drop chance for artifacts on different bosses?
fr
Where do i submit video evidense of cheating
is there a glitch with immortal lammenent?? i just died with dark offering???
DEMON DAMAGE, scales warlock ability?
do wraiths still spawn in forg castle first floor? if so where
hell nah ๐
:c
yes
(im trying to mislead him cuz i hate demon lock)
demon damage..... sdf really does struggle, huh?
What is best basic gear loadout? Im currently level 33 with my bard
I am so sick and tired of people runnin full regular interaction speed builds so they can scum off my boss kills. Why tf is this a thing that you can loot at the same speed as me on my boss kills?
wobuhuidaren cheating in solos euw human barb
jellyfish quest bugged for anyone else?
uhm wtf? I just escapes ice abyss and both the unique pairs of boots i found are no longer in my bag? excuse me?
literally just gone
can someone tell me whats the best pve class?
cleric with holy puri clears most mobs on crypts besides demons
if not a fan of holy puri I would say warlock with flame walk, or wizard with meditate
druid on water map is also pretty efficient, spear to fight mobs and penguin form to traverse map
is cleric still any good?
barnacle clearing, tons of chests
isnt druid still worst class
for water map PVE it's pretty chill
cleric is very good
health is more valuable than ever
what map do you wanna farm?
if water map, druid IMO, or barb w/ bardiche if you wanna clear mobs and barnacle bash
Ice caves would be wizard / warlock
ruins would be cleric with holy puri / smite or holy puri with casting like heals and using the bigger heal as an offensive spell
goblin caves would be wiz with magic missle
any solution for failing to connect ?
just bring some lock picks for hell for the golden chests and if you get a skull key from a coffer, ornate chest, lions head or golden chest you pretty much made all the value of the lock pick back, same with golden / rusted key
alright thanks so much
wizard and cleric are prolly gonna be my top two classes so yeah
has bard been gutted?
is this game good yet
do they ever plan to bring back previous season races?
anyone elses kit get deleted when tehy lag out or what on oce sometimes i lag out and then my kits gone
Anyone else crashing more often since the hotfix?
i still want to know, why does raprier and cutlass get award winning front face block animation and everything else is asking to get knuckles broken
If i die to a boss in PVE will I get my kit back by the goblin 100% of the time?
yes
even if its an artifact?
how much?
you die with an artifact you gonna be looking at paying minimum 1k+
the tow truck is not cheap
but no matter what, as long as i die a normal way i will get it back?
yes
thanks
Even when i crash in PVE ill get my kit back. Just do 1 run without it and itll show up at goblin merchant
they definitely made it better since they give us like days to recover now too
so is buying a bloodthirst and using it to farm bosses in PVE a viable method then? since it has lifesteal it should make bosses easier and if i die it would come back
so its like an investment
yes, alot of people do that
I love waking up to all my items beings old and claiming over 100k
cool thanks im gonna try it
What bosses are you looking to farm?
whichever is easiest to learn and most profitable
MMM prolly troll then
Buttt, if you are willing to learn sk, warlord/lich and then ghost king you can make even more moeny
And, they are very easy to learn, IF you run a warlock, with infernal pledge and antimagice, and use a grimslayer sword
Infernal pledge gives you 40% undead damage reduction, antimagic is 20% magic reduction, and grimslayer does 30% more damage to udnead creatures, and is a zweihander
i mean if you run warlock anything you'll be a happy goose
Its just especially easy to learn undead bosses using warlock
Thats why lock is good, you get so much damage reduction that you take little daamge
that 40% undead reduction is crazy
and you can run the perk that heals you on every melee hit
i understand, but i wanna play barb ๐ญ
If you buy a kit for lock, you can get the undead damage reduction up to like 60%, and then build your pdr up too and youll reduce damage by like 80%
that sounds really good though def better than my idea
Heard, just saying its easier to learn bosses this way.
gotcha
I learned banshee with this, and normally its projectiles if they all land will kill most people, even in good gear. For me getting hit by all of them maybe did a quarter of my health
it reduces spectral knight damage too right?
Yes, and warlord/lich / ghost king
So you can run all the Castle bosses with massive damage reduction, warlord still hurts, you can tank him entirely, and ghost king has some true damage attacks, but besides that, it makes the fights wayyyyyy easier
Im just hoping they eventually add beast damage reduction / bonus to help people learn other bosses like wyveern/troll/cylcops/underwater boss.
I already know wyvern, but man if I could get like 50% beast damage bonus jesussss
just got out of hr to just see 6 blue named players killing warlord together 2 of them are same ppl i got temp banned last week should i even report this
yea i hate when people teaming in the HR
btw how much gold do you guys think a bloodthirst is worth rn
like 1000
i can buy it from u if u want
nice i got a good deal then
ur just gonna gets 3rd partied and lose ur bloodthirst
im using it in PVE mode tho
id lose it instantly in HR ofc
what rolls. at least 2 chests i think
just a random BT with shit rolls, only decent roll is action speed rest are trash
How worthless do you think workshop are guys ?
its pretty valuable tbh
just being released now is annoying because i aint doing allat unless its ssf
Is it ? it's a huge moneysink to just gamble at very high cost
ye exactly
if it was during ssf i wouldve done it
I will wait until they reduce the materials needed by like 95% lol
Otherwise yeah it's a glorified goldsink
no point using it when u can just buy the item you wanted for a fraction of the cost
guys lowkey what class should i play, considering sorcerer rn
Monk
monk?
In the arena tournament, at the end of the session, will the arena contain artifacts?
Its valuable if you already have alot of money
the ammount of people teaming is disgusting in solos
Womp womp. Hoping that when 1.0 comes out, that a bunch of streamers bring in a ton of casuals and organic teaming comes back. Some of the most fun I had in this game was when I met up with a random friendly guy and we messed around the dungeon
openly admiting to a reporting option is wild
Oh I team all the time in HR lol
Very rarely for pvp, and never preteaming
But all the same, its a rule I dont agree with, that they hardly enforce, so I dont follow t
are you talking about the actual teaming (as in one guy helps another guy to kill you, and then they share the loot) ? Or just 3rd-partying
He prolly got 3rd partied, or ran into some people teaming in PVE
Who then he prolly attacked and then got teamed up on
bold statements as if you were in the game which you clearly weren't
so, share what actually happened
id really like if they brought that handshake thing back it was so much fun
why is my game lagging kicking me from teh game i go to lobby with my kit then it dissapears @glad thunder fix your game
teaming as in just straight up 2 peeps already together chasing me
does anyone know how to get ember gems
not the tears but specifically an ember gem to open dwarven door
In the arena tournament, at the end of the session, will the arena contain artifacts?
Whats happening wth
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they arent even out yet?
But if there's going to be a tournament, we'll probably go with artifacts
been thinking about coming back to the game. last time I played was in july. left when all the crap hit the fan. is it worth revisiting?

Yes. In the future, just play the game youโre considering playing. Then you know if you want to play the game becauseโฆ youโre playing it
anyone have a helpful take?
Anyone else have legendary status but can't queue for high roller?
irrelavent
answer my inquiry
been thinking about coming back to the game. last time I played was in july. left when all the crap hit the fan. is it worth revisiting?
play it
the fanbase here sucks and complain yet keep playing it
just decide urself and play
You asked a question and I answered
You could be a little more specific about what issues drove you away but if you login and check out the workshop update you will find out if you like the direciton of the game or not. ๐
(Workshop looks like a half baked prototype version of a real release)
I havenโt heard of this issue In a long time but Iโm pretty sure it used to take up to like 24 hours to actually activate or something after you buy itโฆ maybe Iโm thinking of something else idk
guys do we get a skin this season when reaching pathfinder?
Probably. It always is one. They just wont announce what it is until 
bro why every time i find a cool item there is a barbarian that jumps into the room and starts shouting and then spinning?
does it spawn them?
do i show on the map with a red icon
fr
Yeah its a new perk for barb called radar
woudlnt even be surprised
Lol
honestly i can have whole raids, not find anything at all, and im good to extract
the moment i kill wraith or something, and it drops a cool item or i open a golden chest or find a skull key etc, THATS THE MOMENT there is an instant spawned barb
I have 5k hours in the game. For me, it's the best wipe since play tests. Balance is really good and each patch was on point with adjusting it. They changed how movement works in combat, it flows better and there is no more jumping for every weapon switch/attack/cast. Earning gold for a kit is easy, especially since you can socket any piece of gear to be decent. There are new perks & skills for barb & fighter. The new map is small but really cool.
Yes. Barbarians have a perk called dungeon radar and it basically let's them track specific modules and when valuables are looted they can queue that dungeon and spawn in the room.
When I left the TTK was horrendous and they were messing with matchmaking a lot
Was it low or high? ๐ค Can't remember
LMAO, the elderflame is 12 credits per weapon, what greed
What is the "Golden Chest" for the treasurer quest? I dont recall ever seeing just a chest called golden chest
It's literally the "golden" chest that can be found in place of lion head chest in some spots
those you always need lockpick for ?
Yes, exactly
ah okay i think i know then, thanks!
Okay guys im new here and want to PvE only at the moment what class do you recommended?
Spell Predation they gotta remove from the game
anyone know what a good place is to look for build guides? never find any builds for the classes i wanna play and i improvise i just get steamrolled
i making set without guides
i want to as well, but like i said, i just get manhandled when i do it. i typically dont know what stats are best to build on cerain classes
what do yall think about the Cutlass? is it worth trying out? just got back into the game
the various class channels in this discord, most got some pins with builds
anyone randomly losing shit on extract?
what are the chances of a unique mob in PVE?
little to none
whens the game gonna leave early access?
fighter
with arming sword and heater shield
love that the shark just sticks its head inside you
love that. itโs unblockable always
yep comes up sticks its head i side you waits then does its ragdoll thing over and over
so cool man
try #5 of not having that happen every time
yay!
to whatever spaz on the dev team that didn't fix this body getting stuck under colossus floor bug I hope you get fired, preferably out of a fucking cannon.
Anyone else have this bug where you ready up for solo dungeon and it doesn't put you in the game but you can't leave queue?
why are cuddlefish so tanky?
stabbed it 5 times with a blue spear and using victory strike 1ce and it didnt die then guess what the shark killed me and the cuddlefish is fine
what to do with black roses after valentines quests are done? just delete?
yea can't get into any games
if you close the game and relaunch when this happens, you will load into a match lol. weird bug.
glad i dont have that bug...
dude seriously the shark
just sits inside you and bites your feet over and over
cant even kill it on fucki g pve cuz of that shit
7 times in. a row i give up
just keep moving around, block/parry. smack
even on rogue in the nude on HR i can kill him. But you got to keep moving
HEY!! you can do it... dont give up... take a little break,,,
are bags and chest able to be obtained through pve?
from piles. bag yes chest no
nothing stopping you from doing the quests that reward them on pve though
yeah im just questing on pve wasnt sure if piles are worth looting or not
if they have a castle, the crypts, hell, frost mountain, water map, goblin cave, fire cave, what is the next one?
atlantis duh :p
oh water 2nd level?
id imagine so
they were working on space...
space, wut
o lord
hello ironmace great game developers i need two qol things in this game:
- option to pick a list of modifiers I do NOT WANT on an item
- hold alt to show a min max range of each stat roll on an item
100% its not worrth leveling up to 5 it costed me 250k not worth at all just for 1 of them and they have 4 to increase, when it costs 10x more to craft what you want than to buy it its kind of shit
I'm not talking about workshops, just overall about searching through market
i mean that would be nice too
peronally i think you should be able to check as many boxes as you want and it have any combo of the stats selected with a min roll wanted or w.e
Please fix some dumb shit in this game i've lost 3 kits now because i get stuck in some bs spot that i can't get out of
anyone know price of bloodthirst and fulgor
fulgor is about 2 chest i think but not 100% sure
what's the easiest class to solo ghost king in normals? is it fighter cos you can heal yourself from the shouts at lesat once? or cleric maybe cos u can kill bats/dmg him and heal yourself?
I sold my fulgor for 2 full chests
ok thanks guys
q from a Timmy, how can I figure out all the combos on a weapon ? So far I found out these:
- simple attack (left mouse button)
- simple attack follow-up (if you hold the left button after it)
- block/parry (right mouse button)
- block/parry followup ? (2nd right mouse button press)
but I'm pretty sure some weapons can do 3 different attacks in a row, how ?
just a hold left click and a weapon will cycle through tis attack cycle. hold left click bardiche you will see a 3 pattern swing
all weapons do this, if you hold the left click down it will go through all the weapons different attacks. rapier has 4 attacks for example, bardiche has 3.
thank you
when wielding a weapon : inside the stats menu you can see at the bottom the physical impact power of the weapon as well as its available moveset corresponding to dmg output
yup
How much are Gold Coin Chest atm, I just pulled one from HR pile last night.
do people still get banned when they try to join as they did last year
where do u get mysterious potions?
is there nowhere to leave suggestions anymore?
i'd like to suggest that the seasons be shortened so that there isn't a stagnant period after achieving Demigod and maxing out religion
Just lost all my gear except helmet after extraction. 30k down the drain
Anyone else losing items?
Dreadspines in Inferno
thank you
i believe this is still the place to do suggestions - https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/
Add and vote up suggestions for Dark and Darker.
swim under it. easiest cheese. stay under its belly
any tips for not getting hit by the blue shield ghost king attack on high roller just feels like rng for it to not be next to you when it triggers
can anyone point me to the proper location to ask for group assistance on fighting some Bosses in PVE?
haven't used the DnD Discord for a minute
why do people slot buff duration debuff duration mheal rings? for what build is it?
demonlock maybe
i know debuff duration is good for warlock since it makes dark reflection hit more
o right, so buff duration for the claws i guess?
What Bosses are you trying to beat & what region u playing on? (I'm not good at most bosses but willing to help)
Frost wyvern and ghost king i basically have no experience with
im pretty familiar with frost wyvern, lich and ghost king
but im im in australia so i doubt i could be of help
NA Lich, Warlord at minimum
If we can play on US East, i can try and help
o7
sure send a link to a channel in a raid atm
you feel like wizard still playable in solos?
ignite wizard for sure
Any idea is demon damage bonus in uniques worth anything ? Not a single unique arcane garb on the market with it
I know that undead bonus is, but not sure about this..
Next Arena Ranger Cheater in EU lvl 22 "yeboibowfish" cheating and still loosing anyway fast ban please
I'm sure it's been discussed ad nauseam at this point, but it sucks having to switch between workshops to scrap items, just a miserable experience.
Dont interact or engage in anyway with he workshop until they reduce the needed costs by at least 95%. As it stands now it is nothing more than a glorified gold sink
Yeah, it's that bad. The cost is ridiculous. It's a worse, more expensive version of the goblin merchant.
i agree the cost is too high , but i dont think it is bad. rerolling and enhancing is pretty cool tbh
I was directly referring to the cost when I said bad.
whats the double stone door i need to interact with ?
It's in Inferno, the big stone doors that lead to the skull key room.
In the Demon Gate module. https://darkanddarkertracker.com/maps Here it's called Inferno Gate, as it's an old map, but you can see what it looks like.
oh thank you sir
someone tell me the dead servers i need to make money and im broke LOL
make arena solo q above 2k again pls
theres no way to climb solo against premade teams
when is the next class reworks
lol all the high tier players sit in discords anyway so its not much difference
looks like you dont play solo arena, because it is a different
I do at times.
so dont tell me thats not a different bro
Do you guys have any tips for a relatively new fighter
yeah dont play it
Do we know how long it takes for Goblin Merchant to return your items in PvE when you die?
I've played a ton of duo queue arena and after like 2,500 it's a lot of hoping to get a random that isn't completely regarded and/or just not trying
it's just like LoL where people will rage about winning the match because we didn't win it the exact way they wanted to win it
most people are trash lol
Anyone else had items disappear when leaving the raid? Like having their gloves just go poof
please dont use words that go around word filters like - "regarded" also, keep messages respectful.
aye captain
we just stopped playing arena
I know they changed it back a patch or two ago but we haven't gotten back into it
no one is attacking anyone, simply asking to keep things respectful, and not to go around word filter, anyone is allowed to vent frustrations here.
I actually don't give a single shit about what they say. It's just annoying when it's the 5th time we've been matched up with the guy that's mad at us because he got splashed by my fireball one round 5 games ago that killed him, even though we won the match and he's now throwing every game he gets matched with us kind of thing
we stopped playing when they made it baby solo q only mode
hello everyone i would like to get into the game but i got told by my freind that the game has less then 100 players a month is that true?
no its not true.
let me hop in game now to get you a player count, one moment.
oki doki i shall download it is it a pve game?
there is a pve mode, and modes with pvp/pve.
ahhh my type of game i love pvp/pve
Right now there is 7004 people in dungeons, and 5296 in lobby. So about 12k players currently.
not bad at all you load into games quickly.
if you need help learning the game, there is another discord - where you can request a knight to help you as well. - https://discordapp.com/channels/988365908009447485/1045477312600223824/1469727524136292362
okay thank you<3 bet that ill do that
youre welcome! ๐
just play barb
cause they cant fix the class they make it op
okay
YEAH BARB STILL NEED NERF FO SHO
nah we need more barbs
bard main here just doing my bosses
10k ingame i think
games just acrtua;l;y dead all pve barbs tapping people rogues afk running
shits just beat af
anyone wanna buy a pesti
i just open the game for the first time and chose barb for you tiwn
now go ruin peoples days โค๏ธ
ima try to find someone to play with then i will i dont know shit about the game
what gamemode is the one with pvp in it
FlechePuissante next Ranger cheating his balls of in EU lvl33.
im so tired of chopping wood, boss
keep chopping!! more wood!!
pricecheck: bloodthirst with action speed
almost done.. lvl 4 in 3/4 shops
its so funny walking into modules and its just barren of no trees
amazon rain forrest loggers
a lot
@nocturne urchin search for the collector's guild in discard. they price check there
kk
yo backpack when??? cape slot, rarity changes storage space with green adding a 2-3 and unique doubling inventory..... (no ms penalty, it is taking cape slot which is lost potential slots)
they should make green and white wood raritys stack till 3 imo
been waiting for the 2 boxes below inv to be turned into some kind of backpack for years now
looool
Can any Wardens in the chat answer a question please ? Are the devs aware of the current bug with Fire Colossus ? You can make boss go completly dormant in the middle of boss room & you are still able to deal damage to the boss completly for free , I dont know how to acheive this consistantly myself as i try not to abuse bugs but the boss has walked himself into the dormant spot on 4-5 seperate fights now , Causing me to have to reset the boss as to not abuse this bug! Are the Devs aware of this bug & do they plan on changing it soon? Or are we looking at waiting until a late week update in 4 or 5 days ? Many Thanks!
bu-bu-but he said its deliberate! no accidents!
#the-tavern message
just keep resetting it, 120 unspecified units of time of that thing sitting in the glitch spot? youre banned!!
report it on the website then
Wait what ? So is it meant to be there ? just to catch bug abusers ? cant fight a boss if its gonna go dormant just so i have to reset all the time ๐
What website please , i thought there used to be a bug report tab in the disord
i doubt it is there intentionally, but there was a fire colossus glitch weeks ago that they mightve been talking about there. the same glitch? idk. i just think its funny that he said "you cant do it accidentally" and then you made your statement ๐๐๐ a complete circus, really
There is a bug report in discord under support
there still is a bug report here. website you can get to ingame by clickiung esc - support - report bug
hopefully any other players fighting him knows that chessing is only for regular mobs and theyll get banned if they let him stay like that (game is a circus)
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Yeah things are pretty up an down atm especially the new boss , had like 4 major updates already an still bugging out ๐ I make beginner friendly guides & havent been able to make an updated fire colossus in weeks as just keeps changing lol & now boom another bugged update!
Youโd think with one of the most successful betas iron mace would be able to afford half decent servers for a game with a maximum of 10k pop
alot of fighters use adrenaline rush which gives them 5% ms bonus, that combined with swift means they can run fast in plate with weapons away
Yeah I know and they can attack and successfull hit doesnt remove the move bonus, compared to like rogues ambush
a joke
rogues are a faster class by default cause they start with higher agi and their weapons have less ms penalty also abush gives double the move speed and gives phys dmg. having that last the full 3 seconds would make it too strong
hopefully the rogue rework addresses these balance issues...
