game-discussion

[thin bear]

Honestly?
After playing the game for a day on the new patch, holy hell is this better
The 0-24 lobbies were.. let's not be afraid to say this, a farm for boss farmers and ego boosters
And the diff in gear in 0-125 is not even that big, killing geared players is not an issue there even in squire kit, at least for me
This also improved the continuous dungeon system, as due to gear less people die early, thus it fills less people in

[mighty prism]

L patch

[worn lily]

where do yall find crossbows

[subtle heart]

what is the new druid spell

[mint wadi]

Cant' draw the weapond in-game. HAHAHAHA what's going on? W patch, keep coping lamebotas

[swift tendon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1068515318533730344/1250193679814230086/IMG_0200.gif

[stray acorn]

I like how copper powder is 200g more per stack than if you were to just buy the copper ore yourself and convert it

[rocky vapor]

fill the gap

[wispy pilot]

[fervent ether]

the amount of try hards in norms rn is so funny lol

[waxen wadi]

what class you playing? majority of classes can't do that

[lucid magnet]

WHO ARE COSMETIC QUESTS THIS SEASON?!? PLS

[half raft]

Will my classes get deleted if i link my blacksmith launcher account to my steam account?

[agile aspen]

too much pvp there is alway a fight now in the first 2 minute.... its just a rush from geared player to kill new

[stray oracle]

barb or ranger ofc

[placid valve]

based i hate that they got rid of the gear stuff like wtf

[wanton tartan]

what is this new arena queue? this is horrible havent been able to play one since someone cancels everytime? @glad thunder @zinc sparrow

[fallow trench]

make a pregnancy role

[placid folio]

min-max gear does matter and is drastically better than squire kit, if you don't know how to min max just say that

[compact hollow]

bro just add back 124-225 plz

[runic galleon]

Whoever ran into me im so sorry

[steel marsh]

bring back 0-24

[royal thistle]

yeah that makes it okay right lol. they shouldnt be allowed to use that sht makes them too OP. arena is full of dog sht fighters who think they are good because of that sht garbage game devs favoring 1 class

[runic ravine]

Why can't I, with at least 25 resourcefulness, crawl into another characters player model through the butt in rat form and then expand to bear?

[abstract storm]

worst update to date. the gear score brackets were the only thing that made the game worth playing. How is it fair to new players or players who can only play 1-2 hours a day if they are getting steamrolled by 124 GS when they are in squire gear??

[left spire]

Waited 5 minutes. Never loaded in.

[jaunty inlet]

I fought against a guy with 3 +1 all jewelry, almost full blues with 2 crafted items in norms

[warm slate]

is the only way to get out of the ruins lvl 3 (inferno?) to kill the boss?

[regal orchid]

Fix your games dev

[real zodiac]

Shield slam does not do 45 physical damage. Does 20 to a sorcerer while both in squire gear

[elfin gate]

no

[thin bear]

Bonk Wizard
I.. don't think it's the best class rn, so i don't know what you're on about
Especially in squire kit

@placid folio Believe me, i allowed myself to spoil myself a bit today and run bis for a few games
Loved every second

@runic ravine Asking the real questions here

[mighty prism]

They try to stop spawn rushers by eliminating gear score, now you get rushed by min maxers with crafted gear LMAO real dummy move. These devs might be acoustic. Make me a Dev, all you need to qualify is to not have a brain I guess

[scarlet tinsel]

If you also dont have a brain you wouldnt be any better at it lol

[naive mesa]

I have had a bug in 2/15 games where im stuck with my fists out. Cannot pull out weapon or consumables. I have to leave lobby. Anyone else have this?

[potent furnace]

Hear me out let’s just buff Druid more

[wise rune]

game broken

[rich relic]

you just said you have no brain lol

[leaden sierra]

The 224 bracket should honestly come back. The lower GS brackets in normals being condensed is worth of a test.

[last parrot]

220 gs in 0-124 just unbelievable

[stray acorn]

I think 0-124 lobbies are a win but the high roller not having brackets is a lose. If you're getting "steamrolled" by green geared players when it's super easy to get green gear yourself, that's honestly just pathetic imo. Like bro, just open a few chests. It's really not that hard. Not to mention how most people are in squire gear anyways. This honestly just incentivizes people to try out their green gear instead of staying in squire lobbies forever and avoiding higher gear brackets.

[static frost]

Happened to me a few times today too

[idle lion]

https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1058379054304210984

[crystal jewel]

some kind of exploit letting people get into 124 lobbies with a shitload of gear on.. just died to a guy with 500 gs

[native bone]

Imagine testing goblins for pregnancy as a class

[fickle cloud]

that removes peoples abilites to enjoy it their way.....you want higher lobby go to one has ZERO impact having the lower lobies this new change is shit

[waxen wadi]

bonk wiz can 2 to 3 hit kill all classes without magic res. almost nobady has magic res. wizard can cast spells before the engagement making it 1 to 2 hit kills. biggest dif between bonk wiz and barbarian is that barbarian has hp. bonk wiz isn't the best right now, but in terms of dps he's tied with the best, leaving room for out skilling other players.

your literally proving my point lol.

[toxic prairie]

Bro the library doesn't exist lmao

[shut dune]

shield slam's in game description: Inflicts 45 physical damage on the target, and reduces the targets move speed bonus by 20% for 3 seconds. So if it only does 20 to a sorc, that means they would have to have more than 50% pdr... which is not happening, especially in squire gear. Unless it's bugged or something, that's entirely possible xD

[hasty elm]

STACK IN BARE HANDS ANIMATION. NO SWAP WEAPONS ,NO POTIONS, NO INSTRUMENTS. THANK GOD WE HAD QUAD PATCH DAY

[torn saffron]

the idea of it isnt bad but the dark and darker players are unfun, boring toxic people who minmax every match

[calm lark]

Thoughts on bonk cleric vs bonk wiz?

[thorn relic]

whats the death altar in ruins?

[placid folio]

Yeah i have seen many similar setups today across multiple different matches, can't believe there are people who genuinely think forcing people to min-max was what this game needed

[agile aspen]

but if that the way they enjoy the game what is the harm ? now they just ruinned their fun

[fallow trench]

you obviously missed the last time they removed 0-24. Can't be the worst only tie

[steel marsh]

bring back 0-24 lobbies, this weird lag stuff thats happening sucks too

[fickle glen]

just a personal question to the devs, why every couple updates do you decide to nuke and ruin your game?

[waxen tide]

Just tried to do ghost king, found the room with 4 minutes left. Boss was already done. Great job stxpid devs. holy

[thin bear]

I also play a lute bard and had no problems
Alongside str bard with no shriek or vigor pdr druid without using shapeshift in combat
I like whacky builds and have no problems getting kills with them, so i dunno tbf
(All in squire kit to clarify)

[lucid magnet]

hush bubba ur ass

[narrow whale]

cant find portals in high roller inferno , no goblin merchant to reclaim stuff = no point in playing

[warm slate]

how do you get out, I don't see any portals or anything anywhere now?

[mighty prism]

L patch per usual

[mossy cave]

Where water map, did it dry up because of global warming or something????

[fiery vector]

how long til they revert the gbmm changes, trash change

[edgy condor]

So they nerfed blood exchange into the ground

[craggy jackal]

i couldnt scroll to my potions

[last parrot]

rather fight a level 150 barb then a min maxer as a new player imho

[stray acorn]

Trying out green gear and going to higher lobbies instantly meant playing against way better players. Now you're in lobbies where it's still basically squire lobbies except you can use your green gear. also this is coming from someone who legitimately only played squire lobbies. Now I can finally use better gear and get into it more. I honestly enjoy this a lot more. Reminds me more of when I first played during the playtest and the game was super hype and fun

[paper swallow]

longsword users are so cute i swear

[subtle heart]

how?

[rocky elbow]

Randomized Inferno is crazy bad

[fickle cloud]

There was already a 25-124 lobby.....you can play with your green there....this change is crap....there is no upside....I dont want to play against people who are kitted out you want to great go do it dont freaking force others

[paper aspen]

I agree

[knotty nova]

it is with the absolute garbage amount of time we have

[bitter wharf]

How do you get religion?

[austere apex]

has anyone else come across the bug where you cant put your weapon away/equip your weapon?

[ivory lantern]

why my voice chat no work? i cant even change the input device?

[warped lintel]

Just a friendly reminder that you don’t have to fight everyone you see, you can always have an escape plan if you don’t like pvp. Can’t relate tho, I’ll die until I win

[grizzled tendon]

i mean, kinda whacky cause you could do that on a space that was more equal, that being 25-124, now its just copper gear people smashing squire lobbiees

[steep sandal]

green is gear is considered better for you????? ur just trash then bc when i wanted to use geat u went to under 224 and it was so much fun. now its either minmax 124 bs or full uniqe chads no inbetween

[cobalt quail]

If you cant shoot a rat running at you then you cant hit heads and you suck, opinion discarded

[shut dune]

i thought the same thing until yesterday! It's by far one of the most rare modules, without a doubt. I hated that quest

[placid folio]

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[native bone]

@everybody why are you pregnant (goblin)???
I HAVE ZERO SKILL ISSUE MY GOBLIN WAIFU LOVES MY PREGNANCY TESTS PLEASE REVERT BACKT TO PATCH 69.1 IT WAS BEST

I love chicken

[rotund pawn]

Patch 69 was the worse patch ever put out

[steel marsh]

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[lucid magnet]

WHO HAS COSMETIC QUESTS? someone respond

[sharp isle]

i hate the new gs changes, it totally ruins the game

[raven skiff]

THANKS SDF! NOW I GO AGAINST 124 MIN MAXERS WEARING 4K GOLD KITS WHILE IM JUST TRYING TO QUEST! SO GOOD!!!!

[thin bear]

Where the fuck are you guys finding those minmaxed gigasweats on?
I swear i only saw like 4 or 5 today during the entire play session, most of the people run garbage the find in dungeon like a green bardiche with mem cap on barb
Like, really, it's not that bad

[oblique valve]

i cant even afford extra pots :/

[loud nimbus]

Sometimes just being better is the solution

[tired pike]

THATS COOL, im still trying to do beginner quests in grey gear and I die to 2 stabs from a full purple rogue. GAME DEAD THANKS ALOT. Only 1yr + veteran players can play now. guess ill fuck off somewhere else

[keen thicket]

Demons glee/mana sphere fighters needs to be banned, jesus christ what a sad boring playstyle

[warm slate]

yeah I haven't seen a single sweat in the 124 r less lobbies TBH

[slim roost]

I agree with you, it was so fun in 25-124 lobbies or in low HR, now its just minmaxers everywhere and its absolutely no fun in playing the game, they should just revert the lobbies and let peoples to play the way they want and not to force them to play against minmaxers as it is now

[iron current]

When you go to Goblin Caves, the most important thing in your life is gonna be booty. A Goblins butt. Booty, getting some booty is more important than eating food.

[silent laurel]

I wish druid could use that new wyvern armor ;_; looks so good and bis for bear

[spark spruce]

@glad thunder who picked the modules for arena? Fire that person immediately. Two hallways littered with traps with a ramp to a small room in each, what are you guys thinking? Terry said “we know it’s ca ncer” and then said nothing else about it? Why would you make a module you know is bad and put it into a limited time mode? Honestly so many soft ball questions to you guys recently in interviews. Please have an actual interview with someone who plays the game. Dripgravy isn’t someone you should be designing the game around. You should know that.

[carmine hearth]

Do we not get our gear back from goblin if we die right now?

[south sundial]

you do

[paper swallow]

rouge tbagging in maxed gear for the bracket while im in squire lmao! guess you gotta get it where you can

[ruby spade]

can you still pull names from goblin merchant

[stray acorn]

Is it? I haven't even come across a person wearing copper gear yet, and I've been spectating different players. Most people are in squire gear for me, personally.

@steep sandal uhh yeah green gear is better than squire gear. Don't see how that makes me trash when that's how the game works? I also already said that I don't like how HR isn't bracketed

@fickle cloud the upside is that players can try out better gear than squire gear without having to go up against people who know the ins and outs of the game since basically everyone using higher level gear has been playing for a long time. Now you can just instantly use whatever low level gear you find. I don't get how this is some huge deal tbh. I'm personally not running into these min maxing gods everyone's talking about. I'm sure they're out there but it's not like every person in the lobby is doing it. Pretty rare from my experience so far.

[fiery mulch]

I like seeing fighters everywhere now but lantern shield needs a nerf, any other shield is useless compared to it

[main lintel]

so is purge shot just as powerful as i feel it is?

[shut dune]

very first match i loaded into, very first player i saw... blue felling axe, blue adv boots w/ +5 ms and 1 phys power, blue chest piece w/ phys damage, etc...

[jaunty inlet]

Playing any form of fighter other than full plate is cancer, can't even beat my own class when they have 45% pdr in norms with full whites

[fickle cloud]

every single game I have been against people with either rogue purple dagger and blue rings....magic users with such high move speed that even when my cleric slows them I cant get within a mile, or people stacked right at the limits....2 times I have encountered people also in squire or not specially picked gear

[near jackal]

yeaaa so wtf are yall doing to the game holy frik

[steel marsh]

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[lethal crag]

why tf is my client getting terminated every 30mins

[calm lark]

Is slayer fighter useful at all in this current meta? 0-124 lobbies. Or is it more work than what it’s worth?

[thin bear]

What server? I play on eu central and see no such issues

[lean dagger]

so for the treasure horde quest in the ice cavern, does the one in the middle not count? i pulled on it 3 times but none have counted...

[torn saffron]

im running sprint+adrenaline and i can SOMETIMES outdamage a barb if i land only headshots

[slim roost]

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[raven skiff]

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[severe arch]

Ironmace not self sabotaging their game every other patch challenge (not scientifically possible)

🫃 🫃 🫃

[gilded lodge]

Quick question for y'all, does druid's healing scale with will/mag power?

[rare venture]

Lol I have never gotten so many +1 all/true damage sets from these guys trying to min max 124s and getting merced in a few hits cause their hp suck

[stray acorn]

oh it could also be because all I ever play are solos. I feel like trios are filled with more sweats

[half anvil]

real asf

[wise kettle]

anyone else just got kicked out of game

[plucky osprey]

please get rid of freaking continuous dungeon at least on gob it’s so annoying to lose to third party’s every game

[simple oracle]

Im pretty sure they want to kill the game off, make everyone quit

[south sundial]

if seen lobbies with like 16 deaths on goblins

[verbal tide]

so unless you are rich already you just get gear diffd every game, sick

[proper condor]

Yea If you guys wanna keep it so much, do it for some and leave some like they are so we can pick!

[pearl jasper]

new system kinda sucks

[tribal yoke]

you've cracked the code sir, also why are you playing league of legends?

[steel ridge]

cant use weapons 2 games in a row what is happening

[static onyx]

Sad part of this game is you have no idea what you’ll be playing in a week, just tiring

[stable echo]

It’s a pretty mid skill tbh. Not very good in most situations

[quaint totem]

I’m confused , can someone answer a question for me? I thought if you make it out of a dungeon you get to keep what you earned yeah? I got armor, so I left and had it. I went back into the game, I died, and when I went back to lobby my armor is like gone?? Am I not allowed to just have my stuff even after death? Like the stuff I went into the dungeon with

[shut dune]

US West. I'm less worried about running into these guys because i've gotten pretty good in pvp and can hold my own. but for newer players, this is definitely an unfortunate change. They'll stand no chance at all.

[ruby spade]

can you still pull names from goblin merchant

[rocky elbow]

What's hilarious is just a month ago my love for the game was reignited with the fresh wipe😂

[steel anvil]

why isn't squire giving me plate on fighter?

[slim forum]

Why should a fresh spawn have to play agianst people at armor rank 124 just wild

[subtle heart]

https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1329978120870301860 LF1 arena

[thin bear]

You know they have those rookie dungeons implemented right?
They literally play on seperate servers then those gigasweats, which for me is a giant W for new player experiance
Surely better then the hellscape od <24, trust me, things i saw on there..

[river jetty]

Please give fighter 400ms with full plate on thanks

[steel marsh]

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[final robin]

i just spotted my first full true dmg magical healing warlock in normal games
I dont know how many more i have to spot before uninstalling

[raven skiff]

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[fickle cloud]

I am usually duos but tonight solo, the point still stands there is zero perk to forcing people into this crap bracket when before it was a choice

[viscid steeple]

Devs on a speed run to finally kill their game for good. It was dead after the multiclass patch, but now they are just beating the deadhorse. HAHAHAHAHA.

[half anvil]

Wouldn't doubt it

[proper condor]

So basically it's a punishing system. If you're u bring something into the dungeon and die, you lose those items. You can buy them back from the goblin merchant IF Noone loots those items in the game. If not, you lose those items. The only way to keep items is in your stash.

It's to make it so you build gear around your good stuff you have and it's a high risk high reward system. You never own your items. You only borrow them and try to make profit.

Unless you're in arena and mint your gear which is when you craft or find it with that character

[pearl jasper]

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[main lintel]

what is a rookie dungeon ? how do they determine rookies. people who die heaps? or numbers or hours? levels?

[tribal yoke]

may need to do the armorers quests

[sudden jewel]

How do the rookie dungeons work

[fickle glen]

the incentive to bring gear into any lobby was just completely lost after this update. no one is going to go 124gs when 3 rogues with 0gs can just rat them for all their gear, and no one is going to go 125gs or even 225gs in high roller because of no lifes with 500+gs that will just instantly kill them. on top of that people will just bring in like 3 green weapons to rat in high roller now. the incentive to buy gear and make kits has just been lost and i dont know why the devs feel the need to constantly sabotage their game. its like a cosmic obligation for them to do it every once in a while.

[prime hornet]

they dont, already tested

[worn bear]

Why are people bitching about Druid when their new "broken perk" doesn't scale with any healings. it only heals for 2 extra per tick if you're close enough. it also fully disables morphing

[shut dune]

I think you just have to do Armourer's first quest to start getting plate from squire.

@thin bear I don't think those are in the game? I don't see them, i've heard from many others they don't see them either. Is there like.. a restriction on total hours played? after a certain amount of hours it's not an option? or?

[wicked galleon]

instead of simply nerfing barbarian and cleric, i too prefer the idea of removing good features like gear-score brackets. Instead of fighting 224 min-maxers with my merchant gear, i am thrilled to fight 1200 gearscore chinese mafia teamers, instead

[woeful abyss]

how to split potion? Like take only one instead of 3, whats the hotkeys for it

[faint sonnet]

alt click

[grave patrol]

I stg with the random dungeon map mess they ahould reduce the amount of location based quests... or at least adjust it to where the locations have a perminance in the map rotation

[glad fox]

Game is no fun again, everyone plays f range meta with bis crossbows cause gs cap hr lobby was removed. Oh! and wizards with 160hp and 40% pdr because they are obviously supposed to be tanks with insane dmg. b r a i n d e a d development

[crystal jewel]

look how much gear you can put on in sub 125s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgieenFW1E0

[steel marsh]

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[ebon rover]

barb still op im still mowing c nts down in this shit

[thin bear]

@main lintel
@sudden jewel
From what i managed to deduce, they work on some kind of hidden elo/mmr, i don't know exactly what it tracks but if you for example die a lot to mobs without making any real progress, it drops
DON'T take my word for it, as this is just from my observations, which may be false

[visual prawn]

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[potent furnace]

Hear me out we buff Druid more

[humble quiver]

here me out, we buff Barb again

[reef hamlet]

How do I play this game, I’m so lost lmao 💀

[river jetty]

IM brain be like: lets give tank classes the most movespeed and lets reduce dps classes damage just cuz we only play fighter and barb and get outkited 🤣🤣🤣

[smoky jetty]

guys, buff fighter

[edgy condor]

patch destroyed norm lmao

[true trench]

how do you keep your stuff in arena

[regal scroll]

💀

[edgy ocean]

the item has to have the tag found by "your name"

[scenic zephyr]

They're gonna have to patch again lol. Goblin merchant is sending everything I lose straight back to me instantly no matter what.

[pearl jasper]

druid didnt get a buff it got a new perk that is a nerf to the class if used since you cant shapeshift, it just makes it into a worse cleric

[fickle cloud]

finally get a kill and instantly fucking third partied but a guy in full blue jewlery, weapon, cloak, and green armor....fuck this change in the ass

[silk merlin]

Best patch make the flow of learning more efficient and allows u to always run the gear u want easier

[white hemlock]

HOW do I give specific item for quest (I dont want to give my BiS to weaponsmith quest)?

[whole frigate]

nice patch devs ruined the game once again

[half anvil]

you don't, delete it while you still can

[jovial jackal]

give squire lobbies back ffs

[shut dune]

put whichever one you want to give, into your inventory and put the one you want to keep in your stash or equip it. i'm almost positive it prioritizes giving them the one in your inventory

[thorny holly]

new update is kinda stupid

[worldly thistle]

Wait i stopped playing as demigod but only have aprentice rewards someone can explain ?

[silent sequoia]

lol still barb and barber broken ass shit

[fickle lion]

is dungeon recovery disabled still?

[hot sun]

click on the drop down

[iron current]

Now let me make something real clear—I didn’t come down to this dungeon for gold, or loot, or even that fancy legendary weapon you’re holding. No, no, no. I came here for a man’s booty. That’s right. You see, I like ya… and I want ya.

Now, we can do this the easy way, or we can do this the hard way. The choice is yours. See, I’m a simple man with simple tastes. I don’t care about escape portals, I don’t care about your gear. I care about you. And if I gotta fight through skeletons, traps, and three wizards casting fireballs at me, so be it.

But let’s not drag this out, alright? You can drop your pride now, or I’ll drop it for you later. I don’t get tired, and I don’t give up. So go ahead—run, hide, drink your little healing potion. I’ll be right behind you.

Because in this dungeon, there’s one thing that’s certain: I always get the booty.

[steel marsh]

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[wispy grail]

Equip what you don't wanna lose or put the items you want to use for the quest in shared stash and switch to a new character and turn quest in

[reef hamlet]

Lmao, what class is best to start as? Should I be shadow wizard money gang? Or slippery rogue perhaps?

[pearl jasper]

new update sounded good on paper but in practice its the worst thing thats happened to the game in a long time, ive been playing heaps but dont even want to play anymore after a couple rounds of the new system🇷 🇪 🇹 🇺 🇷 🇳 🇸 🇺 🇧 2️⃣ 5️⃣

[fickle glen]

the incentive to bring gear into any lobby was just completely lost after this update. no one is going to go 124gs when 3 rogues with 0gs can just rat them for all their gear, and no one is going to go 125gs or even 225gs in high roller because of no lifes with 500+gs that will just instantly kill them. on top of that people will just bring in like 3 green weapons to rat in high roller now. the incentive to buy gear and make kits has just been lost and i dont know why the devs feel the need to constantly sabotage their game. its like a cosmic obligation for them to do it every once in a while.

[jaunty inlet]

No like fr don't play rn. The game is in one of the worst states I've ever seen it with ESPECIALLY for new players

[zenith ether]

please revert gearscore changes, i dont like having to kill timmy duo after timmy duo just to hit pile

[brazen perch]

so we made normals unplayble?

[long burrow]

@glad thunder @zinc sparrow TAKE OUT DRUIDS

[fossil vale]

do not revert gearscore, it should be combined game does not have enough players to support multiple queues like it was

[boreal rapids]

It’s normals. If you’re getting rolled it’s a skill diff

[half anvil]

fighter is considered the starter class, but rogues can slip past people pretty easy, I would not recommend wizard as you're first class especially with these recent patches

[idle nebula]

game will die even more

[modest maple]

Guys can i transfer my epic games account to my steam account?\

[dim shoal]

Might as well delete druid if yall are adding cool downs. New skill just says yall can't balance it and are removing it's identity and want it to just be worse cleric, just delete it at this point, better than how it's been bungled every patch

[ebon rover]

this game is actual dog water now feels bad

[latent cedar]

my gf just downloaded dnd on her pc first time ever downloading it, no blacksmith acc or anything its telling her to link a old blacksmith account to her steam, we click skip since she doesnt have one, yet it still forces us too>???>??? @glad thunder

[sudden isle]

Why would they get rid of 1-24's? MAKES NO SENSE

[edgy condor]

Yeah i think in the year ive been playing, this might be the worst state ive seen the game in. Norms is so scuffed right now i don't even want to think about what is going on in HR

[shut dune]

i second this. rogue as your first class is also risky tho, cuz basic monsters will wreck you so fast until you learn their attacks and how to avoid them

[naive fractal]

Can anyone tell me what stats affect druids heals? Mag healing? Will?

[coarse dock]

warlord stacks need to reset if the room is reset. I don't get why a team can get wiped and make the fight exponentially harder

[wispy grail]

Keep telling yourself that. north American east had 0 issues finding a match at any gs

[solemn canyon]

where is the double stone door located on ruins?

[spice pond]

Why fog of war?? who approved this?

[fickle lion]

its in inferno, its the skull key room

[charred sandal]

Iron mace is just dumb for doing the 0-124 lobbies again, can't do a quest without having barbs and warlocks running and chasing players

[ripe panther]

near skull key

[flat juniper]

XD

[rocky furnace]

Agreed

[steel marsh]

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[white siren]

like hr lobbies are shit imo now u fight 5 different teams back to back with this continuous dungeon

[open quest]

the idea that they changed the gear brackets because people are too bloodthirsty is absolutely crazy. ive not had a single friendly encounter since the change. not complaining really but its insane reasoning

[keen inlet]

I definitely feel bad for people with less than 100 hrs rn

This game way too complex to remove lobbies with a small gs cap

[plain charm]

Why tf do I keep getting bugged and can't swap or equip my weapons?

[slate sphinx]

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[plucky osprey]

i wish DaD didn’t suck ass at balancing a game it’s not fun like it used to be. much love though it’s a great game with hella potential

[faint spindle]

Have some grit, this is how the game was when half the player base started. You will feel so much for accomplished when you actually learn.

[unborn lily]

I think they should buff Cleric

[flat portal]

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[raw nebula]

They actually ruined gear bracket matches. There were no issues but they decided to patch it

[woeful zealot]

Where is double stone door

[past compass]

inferno

[true scaffold]

Is goblin fixed?

[azure ibex]

@empty sun <---this guy a mod??

[flat valley]

where do i submit a blatant teaming clip? same names in dungeon at same time playing same class

[reef breach]

yall will always find a reason to cry whatever the patch is... deleting sub 25 bracket seems fine.
people enter the dungeon with gear instead of basic squire stuff.
pvp is more fun and pve much easier... wtf are you guys crying about?

[native pine]

How much time is left in the current arena rotation

[visual coral]

Anyone else having a hard time getting this gobbo merchant to work in ruins?

[unreal swift]

the pvp in sub 24 is so much moire fun then sub 124

[charred hemlock]

So they removed 2 match types and im still getting in progress raids the fuck is this?

[sudden isle]

what a bad update

[frozen peak]

just found the last chest piece I need for a nice arena kit and when I leave the game its somehow not found by my character and its not found by anyone hell yeah bro nice

[fervent swan]

So is dongeon recoveries back?

[glad fox]

"We’ll continue to adjust these new matchmaking pools to give ALL players a good balance of risk, reward, and progression. " Well, i think they are just f with us. This is the worst explanation for what the actually did

[marble salmon]

"Anyone else having a hard time getting this gobbo merchant to work in ruins?"

[outer phoenix]

terrible update

[latent swift]

lizard barb , copperlight riveteds , cobalt lightfoots and pants and a legendary hatchet these squire lobbies lookin super balanced ez

[severe sundial]

I literally just died to a barb with a copperlight and a legendary hatchet in 124s. Its cancer. @glad thunder You suck dude. Fix the gs bracket back or you 100% will losee players

[fickle glen]

the incentive to bring gear into any lobby was just completely lost after this update. no one is going to go 124gs when 3 rogues with 0gs can just rat them for all their gear, and no one is going to go 125gs or even 225gs in high roller because of no lifes with 500+gs that will just instantly kill them. on top of that people will just bring in like 3 green weapons to rat in high roller now. the incentive to buy gear and make kits has just been lost and i dont know why the devs feel the need to constantly sabotage their game. its like a cosmic obligation for them to do it every once in a while.

[little heart]

im happy they buffed fighter

[grizzled niche]

this is a fun game and i enjoy playing it.

[sullen urchin]

how do you select the new mode of dungeon for new players at least?

[keen halo]

Does anyone know if glaciate and true mag are a thing? Kinda should be, all sorc really needs to get us melee guys to be quiet.

[slate sphinx]

continuous dungeon is 💩 . never ending third party, have no time to loot your kills.

[crude berry]

so no matter what lobby you play its full of bis gear wearing players?

[steel marsh]

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[steep scarab]

has anyone got a bug where they cant change weapons/utility?? they are just stuck with whatever is in there hands

[compact hollow]

facts

[crude ember]

is gobbo fixed?

[feral cedar]

are they going to reset arena rank?

[gilded fox]

cooldown on shapeshifting. what are we smoking because apparently i'm not getting the good stuff.

[quaint marten]

holy shit, was that Blood Exchange nerf really necessary? it feels miserable now lol

[formal girder]

if u were using it before the nerf ...then yes

[thorn glen]

As a barb main, yes it was needed. Too broken. Although it is useless now.

[crisp dust]

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[vast bloom]

yes, totally needed

[stable echo]

Yes? Blood exchange was made absolutely nuts with the duration increase

[silent meteor]

So quick question what's the biggest difference to the hr GS cap? I mean 224 wasn't too bad and kind of fun for me. But what should I expect hr to be like now?

[oblique burrow]

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[merry crown]

Ugh I can't beat the damn cave troll it was like my 8th try and I just keep dying lol not even the guides can save me

[open quest]

because you could do that with the brackets also. it didnt affect you but it did affect those who want to go in sub 25. pretty simple really. nothing positive has come of this. some people just lost the way they liked to play most. make sense?

[formal gull]

Seems like people that boss it up want 0-24 back

[fair ridge]

@mossy tangle GET SHIT ON TEAMING FILTH HHAHAHA UR SO SHIT

[calm plover]

I’m kinda just losing 125 gear against people running crafted and legendary gear that I don’t have nor can compete with. How am I supposed to get better if they nearly one tap me?

[tardy gyro]

Shit patch glad i just uninstalled

[subtle heart]

no under 25s suck ass

[empty saffron]

i just ran a whole entire inferno map and i didnt see a single blue what the fuck is this update

[sturdy coral]

#the-tavern << the devs look at this channel for spam

[little bear]

This is what happens when the devs don't play their own game. You get shit patches like this with changes nobody asked for

[brazen perch]

true

[abstract storm]

i alone know of 5 people who will not be playing the game until -24 lobbies are put back into place.

[sharp isle]

PLEASE BRING BACK 125-225 HIGH ROLLER LOBBIES @glad thunder

[sweet anvil]

unistalling again until gs lobbies are back. Game is horrible when you get stat check constantly.

[foggy loom]

many such cases many such cases

[fickle glen]

the incentive to bring gear into any lobby was just completely lost after this update. no one is going to go 124gs when 3 rogues with 0gs can just rat them for all their gear, and no one is going to go 125gs or even 225gs in high roller because of no lifes with 500+gs that will just instantly kill them. on top of that people will just bring in like 3 green weapons to rat in high roller now. the incentive to buy gear and make kits has just been lost and i dont know why the devs feel the need to constantly sabotage their game. its like a cosmic obligation for them to do it every once in a while.

[crude berry]

im gonna rat hr lmfao, squire kit and one blue long sword in my inventory 🤣 0 risk, lets go

[light turtle]

Is dungeon recovery still not working, or am I just getting sucked dry every raid ?

[wet sapphire]

goblin merchant is still broken

[vapid rampart]

Nah goblin merchant def is still broken. Homies fell down void like multiple times or died to PvE no getback

[steel marsh]

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[empty sun]

you can check a persons roles if you arent sure

[hard nymph]

any1 else feel that blood exchange nerf was way too heavy and is now beyond useless

[formal gull]

Nah it needed it use another skill

[latent swift]

whats next we cant swap servers

[plush bison]

hotfix 69 will return someday 😔

[fair ridge]

@mossy tangle @mossy tangle Teaming and losing a 1v2 HAHAHAHHA UR PATHETIC

[civic osprey]

🇷 🇪 🇹 🇺 🇷 🇳 🇸 🇺 🇧 2️⃣ 5️⃣ AND 125-224

[wispy grail]

Would also require him to know what roles = moderator lol #📜rules

[marble salmon]

anyone know if dungeon recoveries is still bugged? my teammates haven't gotten any loot back

[hard harness]

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[slate sphinx]

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[golden crown]

yeah this game is HOT garbage

[empty sun]

yeah it tells you in there

[charred sandal]

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[charred pewter]

2 games in a row I shoot a crossbow then am no longer able to switch to anything else am I slow?

[torn saffron]

im so glad i cant play solo in duos because the gearscore changes are terrible, but i cant play solos without fighting teaming duos

[jovial jackal]

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[frosty prairie]

how tf did i just go in with squire gear to get killed by a full true phys kit with a bunch of agility and all attributes

[paper aspen]

Why can I bring two legendary hatchets to the lowest gearscore queue

[compact hollow]

I put 500 hours into this game in the last 6 months ive been holding the line for a minute but i cant hold on any longer

[silent socket]

rookie number i put 1200 hours in the last 4 bud

edit
i am retired

[digital smelt]

get a job.

[wispy pilot]

i've put 80 hours in the past 3 years, rookie numbers

[rocky furnace]

I put 72 hours in one day.

[empty sun]

[sturdy coral]

2k hour Timmy

[delicate minnow]

Have they given any reason for why they are releasing AP season so late into the game?

[agile aspen]

The trio lobby for 0=124 are insane way to many people

[knotty nova]

they dont have any idea what they're doing, like usual

[dense goblet]

See what I've done is changed and manipulated time. Day 1, I got demigod. Day 2, I got warlord. I'm kicking your butt.

[marsh acorn]

the devs are really something special i might quit finally.. I CANNOT GET A WISP OLR DIREWOLF TO SAVE MY LIFE TO COMPLET THE QUESTS!!!!!!!! EVERY SINGLE RUINS IS HALF OVER WITH EVERYTHING DEAD GOING ON MY 10TH TRY IN A ROW F THIS GAME!!!

[bronze narwhal]

whats going on with this game right now T-T

[astral wasp]

you'd think with the removal of gear score brackets that you'd load into newer matches, but nope

[vapid rampart]

Really most stupid think to make the Gearscore caps between 0-124 and 125+. Lobbies fill up way too fast 3rd 4th 5th parties everywhere literally no Wolfs to kill cant do any quests its really trash state right now. No Wonder player counts sinks harder than titanic

[short siren]

idk what to think about these new gear score lobbies
I played about 10 games in 0-124 and all the ppl I killed or spectated once being killed all had squire quality gear. Really no point in playing in that gear score other than to practice or farm

[feral remnant]

i went to the base gear and fought 2 fighters and each time i got them to 3 hp and they all had 30 more hp and 10%+ more pdr all iwant to do is play the game and have some fair fights but each time i get a longsword shoved up my as* and out my mouth. do i really have to spend 2 hours assembling 124 shit kits just so i can have a casual experience when playing the game

[civic osprey]

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[brittle zenith]

play counts are healthy 🙂

[delicate stratus]

Love being new to the game a getting destroyed by the sweets like why did the take away 0-24 know it’s 0-124 and I can’t even get into the game without being cramped on thanks game.

[errant moat]

yeah bro time to take a break from this game. Devs have 0 clue on what they are doing. losing 20k players per wipe shows it

[abstract acorn]

yo why cant i spend gingerbread men, got all 3 santa quests done and no options pop up, have had them done for a hwile

[severe sundial]

I never thought id say this but i hope this game dies now. the devs suck.

[foggy loom]

many such cases many such cases

[neon marsh]

🦛

[fallow sigil]

Gingerbread isn’t a currency, only candy cane. Gingerbread is only used for the quest

[shut dune]

i'm okay w/ the randomized/fog of war in Inferno.. BUT they need to revert back all the rooms that had exits... Spawning in w/ only 8 minutes and having to sprint thru 5 modules just to find an exit wastes all the time you would have had to loot... I'm at 500 hours and this feels bad... A new player won't even be able to escape 90% of the time

[scenic zephyr]

Maybe they could get bought out by people who could actually help the game. It's possible.

[placid valve]

why did they ruin the game with no gear rate wtf

[dry fulcrum]

so inferno is random like crypts now?

[cosmic oak]

hell ya

[lapis valley]

is gob merchant working?

[formal girder]

0-24 was toxic garbage ... W patch.

[fallen quarry]

Yes exactly

[sweet anvil]

100% just lost 3 more players to L patch. gg bad devs

[fiery mulch]

I kinda like the mixed 0-124, am I the only one? Or one of the only?

[glad rock]

-124 lobbies and dude has 2 grims rings, frostlight plate pants and gloves, green copper lite chest and a blue topfhelm, how did they think this was fair 😂 and the devs say they don't want to hurt new players, poor newbies

[wispy pilot]

add a few more zeros to that number

[subtle heart]

For those saying this wasn't gonna be Concord 2.0, look at it now.

[little heart]

what are rookie lobbys

[marsh acorn]

YEAH WISPS AND DIREWOLVES do not exist any longer wow I CANNOT DO THE QUESTS YOUR GAME IS FUKKY ( iF I LOAD INTO AN 11 MIN CRYPTS IM GOING POSTAL)

[rocky furnace]

A myth

[dense goblet]

If you don't like the patch it's because you have gear fear, it's just a game

[vapid rampart]

If you say so u gotta be right. Sinking from Wipe to wipe by the thousands but hey yeah its healthy

[feral cedar]

is arena mmr reseting?

[prime crypt]

Me sitting in a dark corner with as much true phys as possible

[civic osprey]

People are finally realizing continuous dungeon is terrible for the game? You are spawning in late and can’t do quest?

[blazing crown]

bruh theres 9 rat rogues in my lobby teaming LMAOO

[olive crest]

Nah its pretty steady with an average of roughly 15k players concurrent. Like it's an L patch taking away gear scores, but being inaccurate to prove a point is just silly.

[severe sundial]

Or maybe we dont have gear in the first place and getting ran down by a barb with legendary hatchet and copperlight gear fucking blows and isnt fun. @olive crest They player count has already dropped 2k from yesterday. quit lying to yourself.

[shut dune]

or you're not a super experienced player who's now getting run over by people min/maxing in blues w/ all the good stats for their build, while you're in squire gear.. It's crazy, it's like more than 1 view can exist

[short siren]

I have 300 hrs in game, I think I'm rdy to pvp in HR

[river galleon]

Bring back Otto

[fluid coral]

love that druid is now ridiculously overpowered, can do 200+dmg in 1 second

[sweet anvil]

Its crazy dude. Everytime I convice my friends to come back and play, the devs decide to drop a fat shit on our chest with L patches. No one fucking asked for them to remove GS lobbies. Its back to page 1 with people min maxing normals and shitting on the timmies. Or you go into HR only to be rolled by guys with full unique gear. Pick your poison. Or do what me and my friends are doing. Uninstall. @glad thunder @zinc sparrow

[peak aurora]

nice bug where you cant pull weapons out... amazing devs.

[tidal ice]

how many times have they done a full circle with gear?

[thorny thicket]

Literally just take the game offline for six months to rework all the stupid bullshit and relaunch. It’s too much of a layered train wreck to fix live.

[empty saffron]

yeah this update is terrible never struggled to find blues in my life

[oblique snow]

L patch wont see me again

[candid vine]

What is their obsession with changing the gear score thresholds like donkeys

[steel marsh]

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[shadow crescent]

OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER THIS HAS TO BE THE 4TH TIME THEY HAVE CHANGED IT

[slate sphinx]

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[placid valve]

same just played 6 games and got out geared in all of them. this how they ruin a game

[jovial zenith]

what is the scaling on sorc burn? there is no indicator in the tooltip like (1.0) oh only for flame strike lol

[sour geyser]

Just bad players want to be hand fed

[jaunty needle]

Is warlock completely broken? Or just hydra dont work. What was in update that hydra broke? I’m sure the other summons work fine tho. Also a wizard just tanked a 29 hit damage curse and 3 hits one def in head and kept crouching so it looked like all In head but ok the damage read over 40 in the body on stats. With power sac should’ve been 15 more and he had 106 hp and survived all that. And I died to one explosion and 2 or 3 at most low mm balls and he’s in a few squire pieces. Crazy broken game.

[warm yoke]

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[wooden gulch]

I don't understand all the cry honestly, it's fine. Did you guys only handle -24 or what I don't get it ?

[marsh acorn]

THERE ARE NO ALIVE WISPS IN THE ENTIRE GAME TO KILL THIS IS A WASTE OF TIME!!!! HOLY SHIT YOU DEVS FIN SUCK

[olive crest]

It fluctuates that much daily... go look at the steam charts lol. there's 21kish people in game right now, I was here season 2, when there was 2k players. Calm down. Welcome to the early access.

@placid valve Yeah I went to 3rd party a team doing lich, they killed it in like 15 seconds and dude had cinder, and then WE got third partied by a random team while fighting them, was a shit experience lol

[calm plover]

Trying to learn pvp without getting stat checked. I’d like to be better before gear decides my outcomes

[fickle glen]

the incentive to bring gear into any lobby was just completely lost after this update. no one is going to go 124gs when 3 rogues with 0gs can just rat them for all their gear, and no one is going to go 125gs or even 225gs in high roller because of no lifes with 500+gs that will just instantly kill them. on top of that people will just bring in like 3 green weapons to rat in high roller now. the incentive to buy gear and make kits has just been lost and i dont know why the devs feel the need to constantly sabotage their game. its like a cosmic obligation for them to do it every once in a while.
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[odd sky]

Im so sick of druid man im 317 MS on a ranger solo and hes fast af and does insane damage

[split shuttle]

how much does the spectral coinbag can hold?

[civic osprey]

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[jagged thunder]

Stop complaining LOL

[tired helm]

yall cry too damn much, jusy admit you have a skill issue and go back to fortnite

[severe sundial]

It does indeed fluctuate daily i wont argue that, I have been here since the playtest. Once you realize everyone hates the changes SDF makes and the game dies or youre left with nothing but turbo sweats you'll understand

[charred sandal]

Lemme see, you don't have any gear, you go to do quests, you get ran by Spawn rush persons who has the bis and can kill you in 1/2 hits, you can't do the quests anymore

[agile marlin]

2500

[crude berry]

can we go back to patch 69, id rather do that then this

[fluid coral]

I agree with you I mean ive been playing since Pt3 but because I'm not the kind of guy who will ONLY play in like BIS gear and cheese the game, I'm losing fights suddenly. its a joke I'm not at all inexperienced nor do I consider myself bad at the game but my 165hp barb is getting killed in 1.2 seconds by druid panthers in normals

[woeful zealot]

Why do people like sub 25

[fervent palm]

Why do they make good updates and then regress on them lmao, stairs being endless was incredible, and now for all the poor noobs they legit cant get a start without getting ran over. Before you call me poor or bad I have 175k coins, just isnt fair to the new players or players that are broke

[slate sphinx]

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[cerulean lintel]

type 1 if devs are off the packington city for these lobby changes

[paper swallow]

been playing for a bit rn and dont really see the issue with the new bracket atlest at 125 and under. I go in with squire break a box or 2 and im in some decent stuff

[proper yoke]

will there ever be a PvE mode where i can learn this game without dying instantly every raid to people who have been playing for years?

[steel marsh]

🇷 🇪 🇹 🇺 🇷 🇳 🇸 🇺 🇧 2️⃣ 5️⃣ because its balanced?

[shadow vine]

Can we change something about bosses to make them a bit more realistic in cmm lobbies(assuming they’re staying) it’d be a good time to change bosses to not reset when you leave the room to fight a team

[spring delta]

is rapier bugged? can't seem to counter attack ever when parrying the rarpier

[lapis forge]

Just go in solo get some loot sell repeat then buy some gear it's really not that bad. Plus less ques the better. Hope they can just focus on class balance and new content now.

[mystic spear]

its WIP, they mentioned a beginner friendly mode

[candid vine]

so if someone is bad they shouldnt be able to play the game?

[empty saffron]

bro i’m almost forced to boss to find a escape😂

[olive crest]

I didn't say anything in regards to these dumb changes that's been made, just that you're over reacting a bit about doom saying the game. Its early access and they're using it as such, nothing is set in stone and they'll mess with whatever knobs to achieve the goal they're after. The balance and current changes are definitely off base from what the community wants its just also not a finished game so we don't really know whats planned down the road they're trying to account for with these current changes or current balance decisions. They've said as much.

[wooden gulch]

I have played way too much to this game, and still trying to learn. It will never ends, if you wait to be "ready" to be able to face geared people...in fact you will never be, because facing geared people is a part of what you need to be ready... I'm still not, and this GS change wont change anything, or even maybe it will help because I now have no choice. Idk, I like facing difficulties in game. Can some times be frustrating tho but I mean we all can overcome this I think @charred sandal lemme see, you start a new game and try again ? I mean if you can't handle the die an retry games, why are you there in the first place ? it's not skyrim mate (I loved skyrim)

[civic osprey]

What queues? Ever since they added continuous dungeons (which I hate) I join a game instantly

[white siren]

I’d play if it wasn’t continuous dungeon

[remote jacinth]

cap

[charred sandal]

You think u're right but actually u just dumb, Sub 25 lobbies are used to do quests and get gear, Not everyone wants to do PVP or wants to be spawn rushed, I can handle my things but It's fking anoying having every time a player that spawns rush you, Not Everyone has the time to waste on trying to get the bis and being a tryhard in a game

[severe sundial]

Youre lying to yourself. I have photo proof of two games where I was instant dead from a legendary weapon and some copperlight gear min maxxed player. The gear you find will no compete with that.

[weary vapor]

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[exotic badger]

the pub stomping is 100000000000x worst then it was this is wild

[scenic hazel]

honest to god skill issue, thats what YOU use sub 25 lobbies for

[lapis stream]

what stone double doors for tresurer quest

[upbeat ibex]

I'm trying to ready up but am running into an "error 42". Anyone here know how to fix this?

[cosmic elm]

anyone encountered the ice abyss bugg where u cant pull out weapons and util items?

[slate sphinx]

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[proper yoke]

Fr Tarkov did it and i got into the PvP side because i became more confident from playing PvE i knew the maps and certain loot locations and i was able to memorize where player spawns were from playing so much of the PvE.

@mystic spear Hopefully its more than just a pratice mode. Tarkov tried just a pratice mode and it didnt do much, it wasnt until PvE came out that it was more effective.

[stray niche]

okay so interact 3 treasure hoard in ice cavern don't work for me ?

[patent veldt]

224 is gone
my gear is worthless and i cant wait to run into named full unique kids in hr now

[shut dune]

i'm guessing it's 1 interaction per hoard. so it has to be 3 seperate games?

[fickle raven]

JUNK PATCH

[indigo basalt]

Is HR season going yet?

[brittle sinew]

Anyone got any tips for fighting healing druids, when my team come up against them in Arena it feels like its unplayable like we cannot do enough damage to kill them. Im playing wiz, my freind is ranger and we normally have a fighter or cleric as third.

[last sparrow]

can anyone help we with the tavern not responding error

[fickle glen]

that is exactly the problem lol, no one is gonna bring in 124gs kits anymore because no one wants to get ratted by someone like you that has squire gear. there should be a lobby that doesnt allow grey gear at all.

[weak sapphire]

the incentive to bring gear into any lobby was just completely lost after this update. no one is going to go 124gs when 3 rogues with 0gs can just rat them for all their gear, and no one is going to go 125gs or even 225gs in high roller because of no lifes with 500+gs that will just instantly kill them. on top of that people will just bring in like 3 green weapons to rat in high roller now. the incentive to buy gear and make kits has just been lost and i dont know why the devs feel the need to constantly sabotage their game. its like a cosmic obligation for them to do it every once in a while.
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[crude berry]

Its just a little ridiculous that "normal" lobbies have teams of bis rolled, min/maxed gear for under 125. kinda crazy that you eliminate any chance of new players picking up the game.

[mystic coral]

least bipolar discord community

[sour geyser]

Try not to get mad at the patch level impossible

[mortal hinge]

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[signal shell]

so no arcane garb in thew squir

[swift ether]

Skill issue

[white siren]

I’ve got 2.5k hours and continuous dungeon makes 3rd parties 10x worse 3 games in a row we killed 2-3 teams back to back to back then another two teams show up right after that it’s not cap the whole thing where a team can spawn in the same spot the team u just killed and follow their exact pathing to where they you are now is stupid.

[ripe quiver]

Who else is back to grinding Rivals?

[mint kraken]

ong fow in inferno aint it

[remote jacinth]

theres always been 3rd party bs

[paper aspen]

new players use gray gear, not even white gear. and they have to fight people with true physical jewelry, and purple weapon

[odd sky]

Honestly the game isn’t balanced around solos i refuse to play that crap anymore (unless i’m questing) playing solo ranger is so lame in solos with w key classes running rampant

[charred sandal]

no, that's what u use for, you see literally every player go to HR or 125+ lobbies to do pvp

[severe sundial]

Theyve done these changes before is the issue. And everytime they have reverted them because they lose playerbase and people hate it. Im not doom saying anything. Im speaking facts. They do the same changes every couple of wipes,Kill their playerbase then return them and the playerbase returns. The devs dont know what they want at this point. They should prolly just listen to their players instead SDF has "vision" that kills his game. Sorry not sorry @swift ether Nice bait but sure.

[lapis stream]

didnt answer my question at all

[civic osprey]

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[agile marlin]

This chat is such a meme, how can all of you come here and complain like this, just get off the game and play something else

[upbeat ibex]

Anyone know what error 42 is?

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[gilded canopy]

quick question do rogues need lockpicks?

[subtle heart]

Dumb and dumber

[wooden gulch]

lmao nice answer "you think u're right but actually u just dumb". I wont waste my time talking with you mister smart keep crying at the end, nothing has change, -24 was already full of spawn rush, you just can't handle facing more geared people, you need your safe space for your safe quests. sry it's not here you can go play something else, you have no time anyway. DaD is all about try hard. Next

[keen token]

bring back 0 - 24 and 125- 224

[fervent anvil]

dont wanna

[olive crest]

Yeah but the game has basically been stable with playerbase so the comments are a bit baseless imo

[open quest]

what the fuck did you guys do to arena? i lost 100 points from 1 loss and my rating dropped by 500 for no reason?

[south sundial]

your class is literally the hardest for a druid to fight against

[swift ether]

[cobalt quail]

bring back multiclassing already that shit was so good

[glad dragon]

yes. sit down and it fixes

[gloomy scaffold]

`bro the min maxed triple hatchet barb shit is wild lol

[woeful zealot]

-24 was the sweatiest gold farming 500+ fame lobby ever

[fallen heath]

i'm new to the game and the general chat here doesn't seem to be for questions, can I dm anyone for advice?

[manic verge]

Fighting 4 true phys min maxing druids in normals in squire gear is actually comedy

[cinder osprey]

Add a new active skill to the cleric - “prayer”.
Animation - combine the emotion "prayer" and "bend the knee".
Action - restore 34 spell charge units in 24 seconds. It will turn out to be very authentic and useful for healers who do not play spells on two wheels please add this to cleric

[limber dune]

lmao so you died cause your a bad

[thick star]

krill issue

[severe sundial]

No it hasnt LMAO. The playerbase 100% drops whenever sdf makes changes like he did today. The comments are based of 2 years of playing. I promise you the playerbase will drop. @swift ether also all i have to say to you since you have nothing real to add is okay, Have a great day 🙂

[charred sandal]

oh sorry, wrong person, I awnsered the wrong person, and the double door is on inferno

[flint kindle]

IDK why everyone is complaining about the new changes right now. People complaining about losing because "muh gear score" don't realize that gear has a minimal effect on outcome and that skill is everything. Don't wanna lose to people? Practice practice practice practice. Work 5 days a week? Practice 4 hours a night when you get home and through the day on weekends until you stop sucking. This is 100% a skill issue thing. I will be going into HR with my 700GS Fulgor-bearing fighter and skill checking timmies who aren't willing to put in the time to reap the rewards.

[paper aspen]

need to build 500 ms on ranger to escape the panther chicken jump

[formal gull]

Not matter what patch it is I’ll still play regardless of what’s BS or not I can’t not come back to this game and play again it’s fun even if I die or don’t win or lose I still enjoy it 😁😄😃😀

[gilded canopy]

Thank you, very helpful

[sudden isle]

Changes are so bad today, basically forces you into putting on 124 gear or just don't play, they really are trying to kill their player base hard huh

[exotic badger]

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[slate sphinx]

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[spice lantern]

is dungeon recov back

[dim bison]

play marvel you senile nematodes, stop wasting your time on this ball of manure

[magic mulch]

fix de fucings bugs dude

[mystic spear]

yes

[plucky dome]

this is ragebait right?

[fickle glen]

either bring in gear and get ratted by people with no gear, or rat with no gear XD the only two ways to play now

[wooden gulch]

exactly, and I know it, I was there half of the day man. All this shit is a non sens, at least, the HR lobbies discussion have a sens...

[lunar rain]

I'll back this. I stopped playing last time cause I was getting clapped by people with good gear. 0-24 brought me back to the game and made it enjoyable. Already considering uninstalling till it's reverted or fix is put in.

Yeah, partially a skill issue I'll admit. Haven't played in 2 years. But it's NOT fun getting killed by min-maxers. I can deal with getting killed because skill issue, not by gear check.

[subtle heart]

^ this. Stop complaining whiners, its a hardcore game

[olive crest]

Yeah I'm talking about over the last 6-8 months we've been relatively stable, numbers don't lie lol... I've also been here since the second playtest, so I've seen the same things. Sure the playbase drops from changes, and from being close to wipe, etc, but it bounces back constantly when a good patch comes out. Such is early access. Just relax dude.

[mortal peak]

How about we get rid of gear score and return to random lobbies

[south sundial]

all people does in my -24 lobbies was just rush gold or bosses and get out. at times it feels like a pure pve mode no wonder people hates this change they wanted their method of farming or playing pve mode only

[stable grove]

is goblin working for anyone else cause ion think its working

[odd sky]

it doesn’t matter man i struggled today solo ranger then i went in duos and cleared lobbies druid is just goofy af to fight against solo ranger it’s like they r playing a whole different game

[tall sandal]

i dont understand. they put the gs system in place to stop noob stomping. and now they removed it for the same reason they put in place? cause players are rushing each other? just make maps bigger with more spawn points. or guardians that prevent team rushes for a min or so

[acoustic pawn]

hey anyone know how to link your iron mace account and steam account

[prime hornet]

return to playtest 4 or game ded

[severe sundial]

Im perfectly relaxed. Ive already uninstalled after getting graped by a barb with copperlight and a legendary hatchet in 124s. Just stating facts. The majority of the playerbase hates the GS changes that happened today and the devs need to see it or they will continue to make dumb changes.

[modern sand]

is the map the same just black in hell

[minor shore]

Does Force of Nature get procked by natural healing

[paper aspen]

randomized

[limber dune]

yep you died to balance, surely you played perfect and didnt throw, i assume you rewatched the fight to see how perfectly you played, surely you didnt get skill gapped because your a shitter and you came to discord to whine and complain

[still cloud]

WHAT GAME BESIDES DARK AND DARKER DOES SILENCE EVER STOP SKILLS? HOW DOES BEING SILENCED PULL 5 ARROWS OUT OF MY HANDS? HOW DOES SILENCE STOP ME FROM SHOOTING 2 ARROWS? HOW DOES SILENCE STOP ME FROM BACKSTEPPING? WTF IRONMACE

[wooden gulch]

I mean it was already the case in 124 yesterday man but barb were WAAAAY more unplayable, I don't get it man...? Could you explain ? or maybe you staying -24 all the times ? real question

[thorny thicket]

They gave up on designing good mechanics, sorry. Enjoy the totally real underwater map.

[nimble current]

is the quest icy fortune bugged folks?

[merry crown]

what does a continuous dungeon mean?

[subtle heart]

yo cant wait for all the new people to stop playing because we removed 0-24

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[olive crest]

I also dislike the changes. I'm sure the amount of reaction will warrant some response. If anything they're willing to compromise, we have solo lobbies after all. Was never a planned feature.

[plucky dome]

Why is ironmace allergic to making a good patch. Scratch that. Allergic to making their game good. The gearscore change was unnecessary and unwanted

[dim bison]

yooooo, i haven't played in about a week and this is abt the realest manure if seen in a min. the whole point is somethings at stake, now that thats the norm i might have to come back and use stuff in my stash. how it should flucking be honestly. but its true, the fact that you can buy gear thats op for under 124 gs is a huge problem but how can that be fixed if theres also half the player base that wants a market place for gear. whole game is just f'ed up

[south sundial]

yes, so does the healing from a health potion

[charred sandal]

same, I wont waste my time with a guy who stays in his room all the time and keeps tryharding in a game

[civic osprey]

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[runic forum]

with the new druid perk does it proc on everyyyy tick of the spell ? or just once

[severe sundial]

Yes i stayed -24 most of the time because questing and it was the most even playing field. Is that a problem? absolutely not. Solo self found was what i enjoyed doing. go in -24 lobbies find some stuff and play in higher gs, Now that impossible. Plus how can i bring friends in to play and learn the game if every player in 124 is minmaxxed out their mind and just stomp them? already had 5 friends quit, Just got 2 new ones to play and i can almost bet theyll quit when they play again.

[thorny elk]

game is so full of bugs cant even play this crap

[distant forge]

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[prime hornet]

ded and dedder

[true trench]

when is arena coming back?

[strange girder]

please tell me this isnt true
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkAndDarker/comments/1i3vyw7/breaking_news_adding_shapeshift_cooldown_next/

[stark summit]

can anyone explain the new druid perk to me

[open quest]

anyone struggling witht he new gear brackets just play barb. youll do fine

[narrow grove]

Man of 2025 right here. Devs dont know how to make a good update

[cobalt quail]

bring back multiclassing this game dead without it\

[hazy hatch]

Brothers, is there any news about the Druid nerf?

[subtle heart]

It better be true, druid is broken as shit

[fallen torrent]

saved loadouts and quick buy from the market 🙏🏿

[brisk lava]

9 matchmaking pools is not good

[storm lichen]

Anyone else not able to pull there weapons out sometimes ?

[paper aspen]

plants vs zombies is fun : )

[wide anvil]

Just had that happen to me too.

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[flint kindle]

The whiners have no idea what they're talking about. The game is up in player count by 25% over the last month. Only the whiner babies in this discord are made about the awesome changes Ironmace has pushed through recently.

[south sundial]

remove marketplace and player trading , thx only thing Id rather see in regard to this

[wooden gulch]

bro it's going too far x) not every player is min maxxed. I just left early in crypt and checking people, over 7 player 1 is in good gear but not even min max (a rogue) 5 started with basically a blue weap and sometimes a ring or so, and one clearly started naked, I mean, it's far from what you describe. (I precise I started myself with a shitty blue weap and a shitty purple helm)

[arctic inlet]

please add a minimum 300 gs for arena, I'm so tired of being with base kit people after spending 20k and like 20 hours on my kit @glad thunder please add this it would make arena so much better

[minor shore]

Best druid weapon? No form

[kind lance]

Why is inferno random now the dumbest thing they could have done

[whole aspen]

youre not using the class right, out smart your players use traps. and spear

[civic osprey]

Why? Since they added continuous dungeons (which are lame), games are always full and you join instantly

[paper swallow]

first it was timmies gonna get stompped by high gear. now its, i dont wanna loose my gear to timmies. Im sure loosing your 400g set is gonna be devistating

[severe sundial]

Go play gobo caves. Bet you see what im talking about. But ok I'll just agree to disagree. Ive already ran into several minmaxxed people but Im just lying about that apparently.

[dim bison]

seeing all this bs i might just actually stick to dog urine marvel rivals lol. no diff

[prime hornet]

ded and dedder

[naive sigil]

its a p2w game no one cares about gear

[silk venture]

How is the Sound still messed up? especially this far into the wipe. I didn't hear footsteps, a door or even the sprint ability the fighter that killed me used. The only way I knew he was there was bc I was getting stabbed

[formal girder]

orrrrrrr play something u enjopy....not too smart are yah

[runic forum]

so if you run the new druid perk you jus cant shapeshift at all ?!

[idle nebula]

were you dropped?

[pearl jasper]

yea itslike being a bad cleric

[scenic zephyr]

Only map I ever seen have less than player cap with continuous dungeons was HR Ice Abyss. Do you play on OCE or something?

[olive crest]

@glad thunder Add SPELL CHARGES to shapeshift forms.. let them rest them back.. also gear score brackets was a unanimously loved feature, big mistake getting rid of it.

[brisk lava]

Cause it's better to not have to play market simulator 24 7 just to buy a kit just to play hr..and no lobbies were still dead sometimes

[late wind]

THE only way this game will succeed is if sdf goes to jail or mysteriously dissapeared

[ancient vector]

lol patch to prevent pub stomping = creates more pubstomping

[spark spruce]

@glad thunder get ready for a mass exodus of players, i cant take this quality of design anymore

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[fleet dragon]

Listen guys I’m a long time fan of DaD and have been playing for a while now and every update recently has just sent this game to the pisser. I have never seen this community this upset over the so called “balance changes” they add to this game. Cmon iron mace, pick the pace up and actually play and test your “changes” before you add them to the game.

[odd sky]

only goofballs play druid men turning into little animals lmaoo

[paper aspen]

and now, please wait 6 hours of maintenance tmrw

[wooden gulch]

I'm not saying they dont exist, and yeah, if you get killed by like 3 of them in raw, it's annoying. I mean I wont lie, I tell it too when I die like "omfg he was so geared this ****" . But saying "everyone is minmaxxed excepte me" or so is insane, I just checked my game and the description I just made is just far from that

[tall atlas]

Because they have serious mental issues.
They just hate new players with all their hearts and want them to drop the game asap. That's their true motivation, I see it through the years

[trail shale]

I think HR should all be combined - Personally (atleast on OCE severs) it makes the game way more populated

However I think squire kits should be a thing for sure - great warm up 🙂

[slim forum]

Why must i fight people with caps and op gear as a fresh spawn. what the fuck were they thinking removing 0/24 score gear

[severe pike]

dont fight them run away in fear shitter

[woeful zealot]

100% 24GS was more sweaty than 124.

[marble salmon]

anyone else having issues with dungeon recovery?

[plucky dome]

😔

[civic osprey]

I never seen dead lobbies once during any time of day…..plus you still need to have gear to play the game now, you just need even more gear then before is literally the only difference…..

[dim bison]

well ive been playing exanima, the binding of isaac and occasionally dad. marvels the only other pvp game and thats only fun cuz it competitive if you dont agree that's fine. if you enjoy this then id assume you enjoy the smashing of the privates while marvel is more like race play. @full torrent lol

[full torrent]

I really enjoy queuing in 0-124 gs bracket as lvl 4 with my homies and getting stomped by minmaxxed 124 gs lvl 200+ nerds

[lament moat]

re-add gs

[low spoke]

is there any info about wipe?

[severe sundial]

Im not saying everyone is minmaxxed. But the ones that are, They will destory the ones who arent, How do you bring new players into that and expect them to stay? serious question

[sly acorn]

So is normals just full of teamers now too?
All the matches I've played have just been people being friendly with each other.

[charred sandal]

You won't, that's literally this, you can't play the game for fun anymore

[fervent anvil]

its almost like being friendly in norms is allowed ...

[candid vine]

yeah i dont think they get this, cause there reason for doing it was "better players were going into -24 lobbies and being bloodthirsty" umm its gonna be the same now they just have more min maxing to do

[shrewd flower]

i think its lovely that if you run squire gear you can run into min maxxers

[vivid pumice]

yep never shoulda changed it, even as a 100+ the 24 gs bracket was a good addition, combining the 2 was stupid

[little dragon]

encouraging rat gameplay in HR now that gear score is only 125 now WTAF

[olive crest]

It is pretty crazy we've literally flip flopped on this exact issue several times... honestly boardering insanity at this point...

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[river jetty]

Phahhaa difference aint that big buddy, one run and u got 300 gearscore 🤣

[open quest]

they been flip flopping since they first released on everything. no clue what they are doing

[umbral nacelle]

HOW TO SUBMIT A CLIP OF TEAMERS

[naive sigil]

they dont care about it so save your time

[junior lotus]

#in-game-reports message

[hard rock]

@plucky dome I need to borrow a few things

[scenic zephyr]

300 gs doesn't mean anything really though. Nice you're wearing legendary old shoes, a purple flanged mace and heater shield, and you got legendary survival bow. pretty crazy kit not gonna lie.

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[worldly thistle]

Is it normal when i take a red with my friend i get int oa forever loading and sent back to lobby with my gear ?

[severe sundial]

@glad thunder Youve already done two patches today, Just do another and revert the GS brackets please. I want my noobie friends to keep playing...

[wooden gulch]

this is a real question man, I don't have the full answer but in fact it hasnt change as much as you feel rn. Lemme explain : before you could bring your friend, staying in -24 (and hoping to dodge the sweaty 500 fame like me) and your friend was like "oh ok, that's a nice game there buddy", but then, after escaping and going into 124 you faced the exact same situation. So go back into-24, and eventually your friend got stuck long enough (this game is hard, especially if you start now that it has already more than 1 year) into -24 to be demotivate and leave. The only thing that change now is that he faces the true and hard reality faster. I'm not saying it's better, but I think the change is not that big

[sly acorn]

Doesn't make it any less shitty to do lmao
Game was better when everyone actually had to play against each other
Playing with other people should be reserved for the respective party sizes

[plucky dome]

tf you talkin about?

[small marsh]

quite normal

[dim bison]

this game has 2k hours of my life. since playtest 2, on and off, so i think i can honestly say that the fact that past problems get reintroduced is the most visible fact that the developers dont give a rats behind abt the worries of its player base.

[gusty quest]

anybody noticing theres just more massacaring now than before sdf said we were bloodthirsty lol

[olive crest]

I wouldn't say they have no clue, I think they just keep thinking new features impact things more than they do, and are missing understanding when it comes to why GS is so necessary. GS effectively = level of sweat required. They are also trying to safeguard the newer/worse players a bit. Albeit this is a misguided way, its hard to keep people from abusing the lower skill players in what should be a less competitive arena. But they did just make that way worse lol. Hopefully this rookie lobby thing excludes anyone over lvl 20-30

[full torrent]

Let me explain the difference between before with 25 gs and now. Before the most a sweat could have is 24 gs. Now, they can have 124 gs and stomp new players. That's an order of 5x magnitude stronger for sweats to stomp noobs with 0 gs.

[river jetty]

You're the one who needs min maxed gear to survive 124, not me 😗

[zinc elm]

I swear these devs have no clue what the playerbase wants

[lament moat]

and remove voip in solos everyone teams

[versed sierra]

if you exclusively play 24 lobbies, this patch is good for you honestly. get you out of your comfort zone & the most baby version of the game possilbe

[pearl jasper]

they dont ask to team they do a little teabag, removing voip does nothing

[serene echo]

Is it me or does anyone else agree that the game should be slower with MS being naturally lower and only slightly different between classes

[thorny thicket]

I mean the players don’t either but you’d at least think the devs could have a coherent vision.

[naive sigil]

i agree they removed the only playable queue

[neon marsh]

🦛

[nova bluff]

did anyone here got their epic acc logged off?

[green geyser]

Do you lose all your gear if you lose in arenas now?

[severe sundial]

Sure man, I guess that makes sense but i enjoy playing with friends and when all of them quit and Im left with playing solos or just not playing, I just wont play. Which sucks cause I've been playing since playtest 2. Quite annoying they do changes like this and they kill new playerbase as soon as i get friends to play is all Im saying tbh.

[astral wasp]

love taking half my health to 1 legendary longbow full true phys damage kit

[delicate minnow]

Best thing I ever did was find new people to play with in this game.

[placid valve]

agreed there

[whole anchor]

lol they removed an entire game mode with a completely different dynamic of this cool little hybrid of rogue like and pvp. everyone had the option to "go out of their comfort zone" such*a dumb take

[tall flame]

i just got 6 consecutive kills all of them running squire kits wtf

[paper aspen]

removing content lets goooo

[keen lark]

load into norm in squire kit -> im fighting a barbarian with legendary war maul, 2 grimmies, brave hunters and full purples at like 330 gs. good update

[zinc elm]

True

[wooden gulch]

Honestly I get it, lot of people I have played with* since PT2 are gone now during the trip and it's sad because the game is super fun with the gang

[grim snow]

how the hell do you find an extract in hell? why tf are they randomizing and adding fog of war just makes it unnecessarily hard

[open quest]

you really dont need to lie to make it sound worse than it is. that isnt even possible

[polar iron]

Get dunked on

[prime crypt]

They flip flop their changes so much man. Its about what sdf wants and not what the players have been asking for

[solemn canyon]

the problem isnt with the update its with the players who choose to min max and go kill people in squire gear… killing people to stroke the ego is cringe af

[severe sundial]

I have and now they prolly wont play again. So i gotta find even newer people to play with? thats lame man. I dont wanna have to play with random people i dont know. I had 5 friends that played, They quit. I got 2 new people to start playing last week. I just dont wanna keep bringing friends to play if the devs just make shit changes repeatedly.

[slim forum]

I know right, people saying its not big deal dont understand a person brand new to the game now has to fight someone minmaxing their stats low enough to fight new people

[lime oyster]

i see the boss lair in inferno is now considered ghost king lair, where are warlord and lich? is it still random which boss will be there or is always ghost king in inferno ?

[shrewd glacier]

Crypt

[paper swallow]

maaaah gs!!!!

[dim bison]

damn get dunked on, by the neck beard who only plays dad and nun else how will you sleep tn @keen lark

[magic delta]

is anyone else rubberbanding liek super hard? i dont have bad ping anywhre else T-T

[blazing crown]

all these rats teaming troll/cyclops and sharing gold ores XD

[whole anchor]

i just cant believe they took the biggest W change to the game, the most major factor in making a reset or loss no big deal and and shat on it lmao its comical how often they change the best parts about the game

[proper egret]

wendigo hoof droprate fake or what. @iron acorn sitting down fixes it

[iron acorn]

Game is unplayable ATM. Need another hot fix to fix not being able to use items in raid

[naive sigil]

yup its been like this for weeks but they dont care to fix it maybe someday

[drowsy musk]

So is there a way for me to talk to SDF and iron mace to tell them this gear score change is absolutely horrible and not the first time they did this and no one liked it tell me are they even thinking over there ???

[ancient vector]

this update is crap

[pearl jasper]

how long until 🇷 🇪 🇹 🇺 🇷 🇳 🇸 🇺 🇧 2️⃣ 5️⃣

[gloomy owl]

treasurer double stone door, which door is that?

[dull ruin]

🇷 🇪 🇹 🇺 🇷 🇳 🇸 🇺 🇧 2️⃣ 5️⃣

[sturdy raptor]

me when i lie and deceive for a living

[pale rock]

Buff barbarian and bring back the golden days of rogue

[empty carbon]

🇲 🇦 🇰 🇪
🅱️ 🇦 🇷 🇩 🇮 🇨 🇭 🇪
🇦 🇽 🇪 🇦 🇬 🇦 🇮 🇳

[wooden gulch]

125+ is more problematic than 0 124, but hey I think, we, as community, have to look for a solution, and also try this version to have a more precise idea. We need to find a solution to keep the amount of different bracket per map the lower as possible, to be able to add new map without having 5 players per bracket per maps. Night gentleman and ladies

[fervent anvil]

only if we can use bought gear for arena without losing it

[raw river]

WTF IS THIS DOG SHIRT UPDATE

[ionic rapids]

YEAH, GIVE ME A CAT SHIRT INSTEAD

[neon mirage]

still dont get how new players are supposed to get used to the game, its a kill fest out there in 0-124 even more than the squire lobbys before it

[muted dirge]

Wtf happened to the servers? This game is unplayable. Crashing, wtf is going on. Your better than this iron mace.

[tulip field]

Bro this is the worst update I've ever seen... just ran into a guy with like 400 gear score because he had 2 buddies bring him gear to make him unkillable. Not to mention me and my friends are constantly dcing when trying to join a raid.

[slim forum]

erm yes you as a new player must fight a min maxed lvl 124

[keen lark]

i will legitimately dm you proof bro i am dead fucking serious no exaggeration

[whole anchor]

I always find myself quitting after some L ass patch mid season and not finishing it out haha oh well maybe this is the last time I am fooled

[empty saffron]

this update is straight butt reverse inferno holy balls

[paper aspen]

cant even find the ghostking before its dead

[weary vapor]

🇷 🇪 🇹 🇺 🇷 🇳 🇸 🇺 🇧 2️⃣ 5️⃣

[magic delta]

any way to fix it?

[spare musk]

Haven’t played in 3 wipes. Is rogue good again?

[warm night]

Why would they alienate half their player base lmao

[naive sigil]

nah its a trash game

[maiden locust]

For some reason when i transferred my account on steam since the most recent update it's saying the build version is incorrect and wont let me update :/ Anyone else have this issue?

[mossy cave]

Yea, you can use hide twice and recharge smoke pots/caltrops at campfires now

[naive basin]

🇷 🇪 🇹 🇺 🇷 🇳 🇸 🇺 🇧 2️⃣ 5️⃣

[narrow totem]

Revertbpatch 3

[wooden gulch]

yes, invis last less but you got 2 charge, stilleto is great again, rondel is solid, we fine

[static onyx]

silk prices gone up so much that its definitely more lucrative to farm those than pelt farming now

[tough ocean]

🇷 🇪 🇹 🇺 🇷 🇳 🇸 🇺 🇧 2️⃣ 5️⃣

[vast ravine]

Alright this magic healing druid is beyond stupid

[sterile anvil]

hey uh, this patch sucks

[spark spruce]

Yup, my patience with these devs has been worn extremely thin. Pretty sick of it. Eh, all it’s gonna take is another dev making a similar game and we’re all jumping ship. 20k players is hysterically low. Time for us to move on.

[pale rock]

20k players is huge shit was down to 2k during multiclassing

[ionic rapids]

When I take the equipment of a dead player to the second level and drop it there, will he still get his stuff from the goblin back?

[coarse robin]

barb game: roaaaar slash win

[granite bloom]

on what planet do they release this update

[sturdy raptor]

if they fucking dropped it would be cuz i have killed like 20 spiders and not a single one of the things has dropped a silk

[tulip field]

3 matches in a row at least 1 of us DC loading into hr.. nice, love bringing gear with the boys, just for my 2 buddies to not load in, so I'm in hr alone. Stupid ass update

[ancient vector]

me and our buddys are just dcing trying to go to the next level, incompetent devs man

[placid heart]

Is there no better way to go about not splitting the player base to make more types of lobbies because I don't see it. New maps means another split with 125 and HR doesn't this bother people?

[thick tundra]

just spawned in the same room as a 44 agi druid, thanks iron mace, didnt need that 10k

[humble coral]

i was having a problem like this where i wouldnt load into the game or dif levels (but not lose my gear). I changed my resolution and it stopped happening, which was NOT placebo cause it was happening a lot and it hasn't happened since. If you're full dcing and losing gear then yeah thats just unfortunate

[leaden sierra]

224 HR should come back

[thin gull]

do you keep items when you die in arena

[whole anchor]

"people arent doing X like we were expecting, they all like to do Y" option A) make people want to play X, option B) Force people to do X by removing Y. Dev, option B every time

[tribal drift]

how the fuck are ledgendrys alowed in whites

[lament moat]

only if crafted or found by u

[gloomy scaffold]

125 with grey weapon you can get away with it @tribal drift

[pulsar wave]

yo they need to revert this 0 - 124 only shit (im in squire and get ran through buy kids in cobalt and copper armor like wtf)

[bleak lodge]

I haven’t played in a while, is there no map in crypts now to prevent spawn rushing? And is it randomly generated?

[languid belfry]

ill try this new approach, but im sad <24 is gone, those were fun chill rounds

[naive fractal]

How do you build caster druid? Stack will or what

[timber crown]

They said all maps would one day be fog of war and random but they are trialing it in crypts first. No clue how they are gonna make the caves work with it tho

[raven magnet]

Does the report player for cheating button do anything?

[wooden gulch]

yes, I got " " xxdummyxx" got perma/temporary ban, ty for your report" some times

[odd knoll]

any way i can get a fix to my account have had legendary status for a while now and all of a sudden I have to wait for 40 hrs to trade

[uncut pagoda]

Yes

[unique agate]

bro revert the patch its bunz

[ancient vector]

"we want to prevent skilled players stopping newer players in <24gs, here is a gs bracket where they can min max to stomp 3 timmies at the same time"

[polar iron]

Literal steam rollin. get poonanied on

[sleek tapir]

this new shit sucks asssssss. just barb fighters constantly. glad they nerfed the melee sorcerer

[flint tapir]

Is tehre not blue portals in hell anymore???

[flat ingot]

they are random

[foggy loom]

I hear it works flawlessly if you're a streamer

[wild parcel]

is anyone having trouble logging in? it keeps me at the connecting screen

[neon hedge]

man alot of shitass players complaining in here atm

[raw river]

the dcing is insane tbhj

[vast ravine]

Yessir

[proper egret]

ive gotten like around 10 wendigo claws now and not a single hoof, 15% my ass

[mystic coral]

how many GK for a gold coin chest? anyone know?

[stray shard]

parties of 124 gear taking advantage of this new patch to kill all the bosses lol without having a disadvantage

[verbal bridge]

Every TTV person should be screened periodically for cheating. I said what I said..

[atomic condor]

you mispelled every player,

[tame widget]

they gonna nerf druid???

[scenic hazel]

what did the streamers do to you 💀

[marsh acorn]

Y did you RUIN normals my favorite skill based game to play without gear? now weirdos in +3 all atts and 6true phys are stomping timmies all day and i dont care enought to get that gear each time cuz its normals... feels like ass.... also 6 wolf pelts is the dumbest quest known to man!

[proven sail]

What cheats do u suspect them of having? I swear everybody says cheaters and I’ve maybe seen one actual cheater ever

[wind lagoon]

gj zoo devs basing game around .1% of players who dont leave house

[coarse dove]

sfd is bad update

[subtle latch]

arena maps suck

[clear wing]

dimo, itsfrwog, repoze, some of the biggest names in dark and darker all use cheats and they literally exposed themselves on stream and on video multiple times

[naive basin]

Love being forced to run gear or get stat checked 🙂

[hearty yarrow]

can people hear you after you kill them if youre on the mic talkin smack

[weary kettle]

does arena take away items when you loose?

[floral pendant]

game is unplayable for new people yay

[foggy loom]

We demand a zero-tolerance, no second chances anti-cheating policy.

HARDWARE BAN THE FIRST TIME

[simple spruce]

Bring back 0-hero lobbies 😦

[plucky peak]

please fire whoever is doing the balancing, this game will NEVER see a "1.0" if we keep reverting shit back to what it was 1+ 2+ years ago. CAN YOU JUST DEVELOP CONTENT AND STOP TWEAKING KNOBS YOU KNOBS

[mystic coral]

hardware bans are basically useless, so many scramblers can bypass them its basically pointless. best way would be to make the game subscription based as bad as that sounds lol OR an overwatch mode like CSGO may work

[haughty bone]

anybody experience the bug yet where you cant use anything on your bars, cant swap weapons or anything?

[fresh bridge]

is arena glitched can i bring in any gear?

[left pagoda]

its SDF and he said he has a "vision"

[pulsar fulcrum]

his vision is this game with 0 players so he can loot horde freely

[terse rain]

1

[regal pivot]

gonna have to run gear, but the devs def messed up wioth this hot fix. players are going to play the way they want. just shows they make decision with out fully testing. this will problaby get reverted within the week

[covert abyss]

@glad thunder fix ur game u disgusting dog every other game i play i get stuck with my hands out cause your game is absolute garbage

[golden yacht]

this game is getting uninstalled. im so tired of shit hotfix after shit hotfix.

[whole anchor]

man i really miss being able tojust a level playing field run in sub 24

[jovial bloom]

Been playing since the free epic legendary deal. Every patch has made the game less fun. Really stinks because its got so many fun elements but they just keep squashing them over and over. and thats a months worth of playing the game. Hate to think of what the game will be in a couple months.

[hearty geode]

where do you use golden keys at bruhs? got a couple of em

[jade delta]

in the market
u sell them and buy cool gear

[full torrent]

is this true? ontop of obliterating any chance of retaining new players, nobody is hacking?

[digital adder]

Why can you get the same class on arena teams but you cant do that in hr? Nothing but bows and magic missle

[coarse dove]

bad bad updating is horror

[thick tundra]

the ratting is so bad this season just lost 50k to 3rd party druids and rogues, no point in even playing cant get a single legitimate fight

[supple wagon]

Game is officially unplayable, filled with ESPERS and cheaters and they do nothing. Uninstalling for good

[proven sail]

No it’s not. It just doesn’t occur to people that there are players who are better. Players who spend far more time learning how to master mechanics and literally get paid to show off how good they are. I’m sure there are cheaters but not nearly as much as you have been led to believe and definitely not the big streamers

[foggy loom]

many such cases many such cases many such cases

[stoic fiber]

what does new ranger ability do?

[tiny geyser]

What's the status on the playerbase of all the platforms? Are any of them dying? Which ones are growing/have the most players?

[earnest anchor]

Who makes spec coinbag? is it leathersmith?

[swift pumice]

as someone whos only had the game a few weeks, no 0-24 seems like a crazy decision

[tame geode]

Takes one magic buff away with each hit

[mental otter]

delete magic buff

[rare kestrel]

as someone who got falsely banned and then unbanned when they realized the system was incorrect, this is a batshit insane viewpoint

[midnight citrus]

Why did they delete gear score 1 and 2?

[humble isle]

anyone with good gear wanna do arenas?

[mystic coral]

gotta agree. ive been unfairly banned so many times. an overwatch system where trusted players review other players games would work well i think

[jade marlin]

Why is everything more expensive?

[obtuse grotto]

more people buying gear because 0-24 got deleted

[subtle heart]

someone is getting their gear back still?

[wise rune]

Nobody has seen how op the druid with magical healing is???

[whole anchor]

i have quit twice (maybe 3 now) for several months. you act like the market isnt saturated with good games lol

[vivid pumice]

they had high roller for that, always have, thats an unintelligent take, it was a garbage change

[onyx girder]

@glad thunder thanks for letting us know you're adding shapeshift cooldowns in a random twitch stream chat i uninstalled 👍

[coral pebble]

Havent fought a single team tonight that didnt have barb. iv won alot of them...just saying...the whole game seems to be barbs.... i think we have a problem...

[steady lantern]

bye

[orchid rune]

which quests unlocks frost stone armor crafting?

[torn sluice]

the randomized hell has made the game significantly less fun ill be honest

[carmine vigil]

waaaaaaah

[left pagoda]

adding what?

[pulsar wave]

just bought gear and killed those kids their so bad 😭 and they were geared

[spice epoch]

Can we get rid of the class stacking limit in HR? Cleric/Bard ruin the game for the 139th wipe in a row, but triple pickpocket rogue has to go? Really?

[coarse dove]

sfd is a bad programer

[rancid root]

i wish you could search by character names

[limber aspen]

any one else get the bug where you can't put away your weapon or use your 3/4 slots?

[lofty dock]

CAN WE PLEASE NERF BARBARIAN

[gritty heart]

this chat is pure chaos i love it

[flat ingot]

still running grays in 0-124 until I find something better

[mental otter]

The real reason, it seems to me, is that ironmace introduced a new online player selection system with the distribution of egs (50k), but they did not calculate that the casuals did not need their game and online returned to the standard (5k), as a result, so that players would not connect to the same the same dungeon 5 times in a row, removed a couple of lobby levels. The developers screwed up once again and instead of rolling back random dungeons, they decided to continue pissing on the opinion of the players, nothing new.

[willow obsidian]

how does shadow touch scale? physical or magical healing or just off damage done?

[foggy loom]

No one said anything about flase bans. Totally different. Obviously you'd still have appeals in place.

What I'm talking about is known proven first offense cheaters currently get unbanned by appealing and promising to be good. I find it very scandalous if you ask me

[pulsar fulcrum]

shadow touch doesnt scale you can tell if something scales if it has a decimal point after it 2(0.15)

[versed canyon]

I hate the direction this game has taken. Cattered to issues in the worst possible ways.

[keen lark]

damage can't be scaled at all, healing can only be scaled by vampirism perk. mheal does nothing.

[rare kestrel]

I can agree with this standpoint

[restive iron]

How can I report someone who I found in Lfg and they killed me and were extremely toxic?

[obtuse grotto]

wouldn't the two true magical damage scale because its true?

[onyx girder]

why fix things when u can just add more shit ontop of it and maybe itll work one day?

[naive basin]

Games unplayable without gear now GG

[coarse dove]

Sdf never testing Game

[atomic stream]

just tried to link my old blacksmith account with steam and it seems to not have worked, Now blacksmith isnt giving me the option for another code. Anyone know how to fix this or am i done for

[brave holly]

someone give me a break down of whats wrong with DnD

[marsh acorn]

games absolute dogshat now lol GG

[whole star]

no 224 lobby is lowkey cringe running into 170 hp bards with 30+ each stat

[vague flax]

wheres the diuble stone door on ruins?

[echo slate]

Why did they remove a whole bracket again (it really helped with questing)

[rugged prawn]

whats the best artifact you can pull from ghost king

[feral prism]

True damage scaling? Lol

[foggy loom]

sdf makes the same old mistakes
I tried to make this a tame impala joke but it wasn't funny

[gritty heart]

cave troll pvp gonna be hilarious after this update

[molten parcel]

This game is so bad. Inferno ruined. Lobbies ruined. HR is trash. Why would i use items when i can go play full naked to under 125?

[waxen tide]

I thin kthe inferno change is such a bad idea, I spend so long running through module just to find boss dead, pile gone, and portals taken. so fun. spawns should 100% dictate your whole game.

[cedar lichen]

I like how the day after I bought the game they fuck it up even more

[dire yoke]

REMOVE FKING LIGHTNING BOLT HOLY SHT MAN

[prime hornet]

ded and dedder

[limber torrent]

i want to know why i run good gear i still get checked by barbarian with a epic felling with grey gear. 1 hits send me to the floor man.

[nimble drum]

skill?

[sudden heron]

skill issue... mostly

[marble tangle]

"White lobbies" (-25 GS) were so much fun. Now it's min-max simulator.

[round nexus]

where do i go for a refund?

[obtuse grotto]

sorry i only have 200 hours in the game and i don''t know what everything means yet, i thought true damage meant it added it to your weapon damage or just base damage in total, which is why it would be so good because after that it scales, if it isnt that please therefore tell me what it is. (Also to the guy saying remove lightning bolt, please dont its literally the only thing sorc has now)

[proper egret]

thats unironically skill issue tho

[knotty acorn]

desync broken rn

[naive basin]

Yeah lol skill issue just dont ever get hit once kek

[wooden oyster]

does anyone have a good fighter build with fighter? i dont have good luck in pvp at all. im trying to build around the longsword

[tranquil mulch]

is gear recovery working rn? or still broke

[vocal vine]

need more blues in inferno shit is whack

[feral prism]

true damage does not care about hit location modifiers. Hitting someone in the leg would usually give you less than 1 damage per weapon/additional damage. True damage goes through armour rating and doesnt care where you hit thats the benefit but it never can increase. For instance a guy with no helmet being hit in the head with plus 1 additional damage will take 1.5 extra damage but the same situation with true instead of additional he will take 1 extra damage. Same situation but with a hit to the hand and true damage does an extra one damage while additional damage does 0.5. If this is wrong someone please reply

[junior lotus]

im a noob player, like less than 120 hours, but i watch my bf and his bro who have played this game consistently since alpha/beta--it's crazy how a barb can just 2 shot, even when they are well equipped and play v well. it should involve more skill than just luck tap people as a barbarian

[austere monolith]

i feel as they lowered the drop rate for wolf pelt

[sacred niche]

really?? We are back to HR 125+ again?? I was just barely getting my crew comfortable with HR 125-224, and now we are getting steam rolled and they don't want to do that anymore, so back to norms.

[coral pebble]

every team has a barb...every team...it...is....so boring...

[sharp mirage]

man the 0-124 is absolutely shit (respectfully)

[marsh acorn]

this games azzzzz omg they made it sooo bad GG w the no 24 lobbys lol and wolf pelt quest wehre you spawn into a dead ruins with every wolf dead each time lol GG

[limber torrent]

i suppose so. it just seems hard to try and win against barbarians that swing very fast and do triple my damage. also they move faster then me, either i build to withstand hits by getting pdr, losing ms, or i build light so i can get away, meaning i lose out on pdr and getting mopped. barb can still run fast and do lots of damage with high health. idk maybe i just suck

[icy mountain]

had a teammate die as soon as i went into red.. it didnt decend me. Just killed me too basically and i lost my kit. Careful going reds

[fallow sigil]

True damage modifiers ignore PDR/ MDR essentially.
On the other hand, Additional damage modifiers are like having “Additional Weapon Damage”. PDR and MDR will affect the effectiveness of Additional.

@feral prism also has a good response.

[fresh jewel]

are dungeon recoveries working again?

[foggy loom]

If you're new here and wondering if these controversial, upending updates are the norm...

They absolutely are! GG

[feral prism]

Barb can 2 shot every class. Barb cant 2 shot high armour classes without the armour pen skill. You only get one shot with this skill. If its blocked or you miss head and hit arm you are now MEGA sad mode and your chances of winning the fight are decreased.

[flat valley]

3 times in a row I spawn in on lower levels and dont finish playing my buff songs and there is someone in a room over running my way. I dont understand lol!

[trim anvil]

ironmace don't even play the game, what should we expect?

[leaden peak]

Soo wahts a really good rouge rat build me doing mosquito allot

[open quest]

need to add a new report player option for griefing your team

[golden silo]

BRING BACK 224

[leaden sierra]

Bring back 224

[sturdy raptor]

nobodys running reckless anymore its all rage and achilles

[untold jetty]

been a staunch supporter of im for so long now but fuck man i cant anymore with shit. same old mistakes time and time again

[meager estuary]

yes

[civic osprey]

🇷 🇪 🇹 🇺 🇷 🇳 🇸 🇺 🇧 2️⃣ 5️⃣
🇷 🇪 🇹 🇺 🇷 🇳 🇸 🇺 🇧 2️⃣ 2️⃣ 5️⃣ 🇭 🇷

[crisp axle]

Correct me if Im wrong here, but how does continuous dungeons work if there's no gs brackets anymore? Feels like now its more likely to join a map with no more exits given there's only 2 queue options ?

[night silo]

i run reckless when i do duos

[karmic bluff]

It’s a good example.

[idle blade]

Already found 2 bugs.

1. Ranger Shotgun can ignore if someone is point blank in front of you.
2. Audio Bug with chests not making sound as you open them

[junior terrace]

Hr is just min 125’s and full sauce now?

[feral prism]

Im talking about a barb that can 2 shot everyone. Rage and achilles is not a 2 shot on full pdr fighter. Thats why im not discussing it.

[vocal vine]

nerfing barbs when its just frostlight rangers and wizards running rampant in arena? SDF step down you are terrible at class balance

[halcyon flame]

has anybody else been having frame drops since the patch

[delicate flint]

🇷 🇪 🇹 🇺 🇷 🇳 🇹 🇭 🇪 🇵 🅰️ 🇹 🇨 🇭

[solemn maple]

after all the patches i come to one conclusion guys.. BRING BACK PATCH 69

[foggy loom]

Think like, the ambition and stubbornness of Todd Howard, with absolutely none of the charisma, and zero experience nor passion in the genre of game you're trying to make, and you basically have SDF.

[severe abyss]

IF YOU GET WEAPON BUG, SIT DOWN AND STAND UP

[dry osprey]

they are also 2 shot if they're using reckless, kill them in the same way and they stop 2 shotting

[drowsy thicket]

bro you cant even boss in norms without a player that should be in hr jump you lmfaooo this is crazy

[red cradle]

i always take a break from this game, come back when its good, that lasts for like 3 weeks maybe, and then they patch the game again and just kill the fun, i want my 0 lobbies back and i want to be able to play high roller without getting rolled by full unique named weapon squads, is that really too much to ask, and they always extend the chat timer on patch days bc they know that they are ruining the game and everyone has something to say about it lol

[grave shale]

AS a new player it's a pain in the ass to find others to play with it's kinda annoying

[flat valley]

Anyone know is the Stash Tab quest is account wide or on the character you claim it on?

[fluid kraken]

Character you claim it on

[untold aspen]

people running around with bis under 125 with names like gdfdgfdgdfgf and 00000000000000 lmao

[karmic bluff]

It’s a work in progress but repeating this is pointless for guys like you. It’s not unheard of for the meta to change in games. We have seen many changes with improvements and sometimes over balancing. Which by the way has been intentional as well but it seems you do not read the notes.

For example the latest patch has improved skills for classes who do not use these skills often. They are now considering making unused skills viable. This is a good idea and excellent offer for more diverse competitive matches.

I believe sometimes people complain because “your class main” did not get attention this patch and now you are upset. Is it not tiring complaining all the time without any real input?

Write support tickets, give ideas, engage in the community that wants to see the game grow. Stop holding everyone back and try to enjoy the game you are very addicted to.

Just my two cents 😉

[delicate flint]

I LOVE TIMMY STOMPING WITH +3 ALL AND 7 TRUE IN SQUIRE LOBBIES, THANKS SDF

[foggy loom]

Nice pfp bro, Peter Steele 🤘 Rust in Peace

[balmy ridge]

toilet

[glass urchin]

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[grave shale]

Thx man I've been listening to them since i was a lil baby

[feral prism]

Yup. Not complaining or anything someone was saying barb 2 shots everything so I explained how they could do that and the draw backs of reckless so they would understand why the full pdr build dies in 2 shot to barb sometimes.

To the guy below me. Warlock has left the chat.

[tropic axle]

Who ever thought mobs in arenas was a good idea is high on crack

[spark spruce]

Sdf hasn’t done balance in years, he hires discord mods to do it for us

[red cradle]

it is annoying but they dont respawn so if you and your team focus them as youre heading to the fight its not too bad, especially since everyones arena kit is insane you are most likely 2 shotting most mobs so just make it a point to kill things as you go when the match starts and then it becomes a non issue

[karmic bluff]

It’s literally for one round…..

[west fractal]

i agree but also sort of a get gud situation

[void hound]

Anyone else have an issue where your quick slots stop working mid game? If so does anyone know a fix?

[magic brook]

what is the "Experimental ‘Rookie’ matchmaking system "

[forest bramble]

nice matchmaking now I'm matched against barbs with Named weapons all the time in high roller cool

[obtuse grotto]

geuinely idk what to do abt this patch, before this barbs were busted, and i started playing BoC warlock to counter them, which actually worked fairly well in lower gear lobbies, now im just forced to run gear even though i dont want to worry abt that and just want to run whites in 0-25? Theres a counter to barbs with insane healing, there isnt a counter to getting stat checked entirely

[vocal vine]

ya just keep the game ms and ranged based. trashcans like you are the reason this game is terrible prolly crying about barbs op yada yada.

[sturdy raptor]

its 124s throw on some greens thats like 300 gold a kit

[red cradle]

stop randomizing the maps its not fun and interactive its actually the opposite, and remove fog of war, no one likes any of these things, just stop, make new content isntead of making the old stuff worse thanks

[unique crow]

Every tim I go into Ice abyss, i can't load and it count as an extract....what is going on

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[wispy anchor]

fact

[floral shard]

bruh i can never find gk and if i do i have 2 mins left like this update is horrible

[compact grail]

Do you still lose marketplace items in arena?

[obtuse grotto]

youre missing the point, i dont WANT to run gear because i dont want to go through the terrible process of looking for the right armor pieces, and with the right rolls, when im terrified of losing it because then i just feel like i wasted my time. I dont want to run gear because the process of buying it when youre not good enough to run it is terrible. And yes I know this is a skill issue, but im trying to solve that by practicing in squire gear, i cant practice now, because everyone else just runs better gear

[limber torrent]

i do not understand the devs minds. why is 1 class running all the lobbies? all i see is barb with tiny axe and big axe fighting eachother, literally, whole game i was in was all barbarian. i know metas exist but this is just insane.

[paper swallow]

saw someone say druid was getting shapeshift nerf? is this true????

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[sharp panther]

removing squire lobbys is an actual crazy person idea

[delicate flint]

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[feral prism]

125 currently goes like this. Spend 3 mins buying a blue/purp weapon and then quick buy some plus move speed shoes and maybe a shirt with a stat you want. I was real angry about not being able to insta que to but god damn bro its actually not that hard

[limber lion]

which vendor gives chest quest?

[vast shoal]

again the game gets worse

[subtle heart]

Does anyone use plate armor or demon form on warlock?
Plate armor makes u super slow, so melees catch u instantly
Demon form eats your HP like crazy

[languid frigate]

Where is 4 rooms location, i havent seen it in like 100 raids? is it HR only

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[ember pond]

I can see what he's saying though. If he's a bad he's just going to run into a person and most likely die. He'll spend more time buying stuff than playing.

[strange rover]

ive seen it a lot in hr

[dusky yew]

😂😂😂

[steep trail]

Anyone else having trouble playing the game, i mean like every time i try to enter it says "not connected to server quit the game"

[latent swift]

legendary book wizard 124 kit

[ionic rapids]

It's also in normals, you have to be lucky, thats all

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[earnest spade]

BUFF PLATELOCK

[tidal gale]

what a stupid idea to remove the naked lobby.. naked lobby isnt about being a new player its about being able to just play the game without worrying about having to gear up.. its fun to be stoned/tired and just play without thinking about gear. Devs have no clue how to enable new players. Its a hard game thats been out a while - new players gonna get shit on in pvp until they quit or keep playing long enough to get past frustrating learning curves

[obtuse grotto]

geuinely this, i dont want to spend more time buying things, than playing the game. I am confident in me being so bad, that I will die in 90% of my game, because of that, 90% of my gameplay experience will end up being buying new kits so i can play the game even remotley fairly. ALSO, its now impossible to level up lvl 1 characters because you cnat buy kits from trader, and to the person below me saying "it's not that hard" keep in mind i am saying i am BAD, i am NEW to this game, this is coming from a NEW player)

[floral shard]

i literally still go in squire gear and kill people and take there kits it’s not hard 🤣🤣

[idle blade]

So based on 4-5 runs I can definitely say people that are aggro still benefit from the system but even moreso than now

[fathom steppe]

@glad thunder how are we years into devving this game and you spawn us into a hell run that has 6 minutes left and 0 portals that arent taken. we cleared the entire map and they were all gone. CH1MP

[solid echo]

anyone have a definitive way to find four rooms in cryts, ive been running around completely searching cryts over and over for 3 hours and it has yet to spawn

[cunning girder]

I've played these games before

[hidden delta]

does luck potion stack

[feral prism]

I get what hes saying too but honestly these new players need to learn. I see you guys out there with your 6 potions in inventory in under 25s last update. They were NEVER prepared and the only reason they live is when I go "Its only under 25s so im guna let him live cause no risk". Like the cost of equipment right now for 125 is 200-300 gold which is what you should spend on healing really. For the times spent buying stuff part. Just gotta learn to buy stuff. Took me ages at first too because im sat there staring at a screen like "What do I need" But come on. Shirt, shoes weapon. Maybe trade out shirt for something idk choose what u like and run it repeatedly

[brisk shuttle]

how do yall feel when you get invisible rogue and barbarian jumped

[untold dirge]

Hi guys, I have one problem, I can not find in the 2nd floor of the Forgotten Ruins, the Library of Dark Magic, for 3 days, is it a bug or this room is really not there? (before the map revamp it was not a problem to find this room)

[sudden oasis]

yo, anybody couldn't use their weapons int the dungeon?

[stoic hill]

WTF is up with the endless loading screen then it putting me back to the lobby when trying to go down

[ionic rapids]

Had this bug too, sitting down helped

[peak beacon]

"new player experience" bro how tf do you even loot greens when every game you get murders by somebody with a legendary weapon in normals?

[vital flicker]

Guys, what about just looting while in match? I know some people have the primal urge to run forward and search for enemies, but if you are naked and can run into some 125-geared players and are too lazy to buy needed gear from market, maybe it is better to make chances a bit more even by chests and mobs?

[idle blade]

3rd bug:
Smite lasts way longer than intended

[obtuse grotto]

you realize the problem with this is that your telling new players to learn the most boring part of the game first? and also, i dont only live in under 25gs because people let me, i win usually when its other new players because i am on an even playing field. The other problem is not just the gear, people in 25-124 are usually more skilled than squire players, because they are confident enough to run gear, usually meaning they understand the game better. So again I am getting skill diffed, and stat checked at the same time, and i'm supposed to just "learn"? how the hell am i supposed to do that when I am getting jumped by everyone who is better than me

[cinder steppe]

sdf this 0-124s thing is fking terrible. for your newer player experience you honestly think letting players who know how to gear into the same lobby as players who have almost no idea what there doing? where at least in 0-24 players had similar gear and stood a better chance

[naive basin]

Cant loot when you get run down by a rogue with 320 ms

[fathom cape]

does Warlocks Perk Shadow Touch scale with magical or phyiscal healing? I have +3 magical healing but it doesn't seem to do any extra healing when i hit something.

[cursive night]

Do druid heals scale off magical power? what do they scale off

[fossil shale]

I love KRUSHING TIMMIY's in my min maxed 124 gear score 9 true damage hatcher barb with 200 hp and 30% pdr and 300 movespeed LMAO LES GO

[sharp panther]

next patch all gearscore brackets should just be removed

[foggy loom]

I love KRUSHING TIMMIY's in my min maxed 124 gear score 9 true damage hatcher barb with 200 hp and 30% pdr and 300 movespeed LMAO LES GO

[last lotus]

this update is just more proof that sdf has no logical thinking ability and has a low iq

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[lavish shell]

so how does lifebloom aura work? does it just add a flat 2 health for every tick of restore/nature's touch?

[feral prism]

Hey im not saying its a good idea to take away under 25s I loved under 25s and not having to kill timmys. But its what u gotta do if you are in 125. Gotta buy a weapon at least.

[ancient vector]

DCED for the 10th time dude like wtf is this dude

[vivid pumice]

oh yeah and dont forget the reason behind changing the gs was cause of "bloodthirsty players" in 24 gs lobbies

[flint summit]

now we have rouges with purple daggers just running around bosses not even doing the bosses

[gritty heart]

someone mentioned me hello

[limber lion]

could someone please tell me which vendor u craft the spectral bag at?

[thorny bloom]

Urple

[vital flicker]

That means he spent a lot of money just to get faster, not stronger. And if you manage to kill him you will be rewarded by this pricey items. 125-gear lobby creates some kind of barrier between overbuffed killing machines and specified builds.

[sage valve]

when will dark and darker listen to their community and stop doing everything to lose players ?

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[languid lark]

yes

[kind lance]

why would they make hell random map makes no fuckin sense

[obtuse skiff]

scary

[halcyon sequoia]

why didnt i get any ap in my first high roller match? do i have to meet requirments to get ap? i killed a bunch of stuff and looted a lot and got out

[open quest]

This is such a blatant lie. They coulda said it was too friendly and just a pve farm and they dont like that. Much closer to the truth

[ionic rapids]

I think you have no idea what you are talking about.
If you encounter a stacked rogue with +7 true dmg, not even a fighter can survive that longer than a few seconds

[obtuse grotto]

thats dumb, i want to play the game how i want to play the game, the game should not force me to play a particular way, that defeats the entire purpose of the game

[round nexus]

the season starts in like 6 days

[zenith onyx]

? so many people complaining about gs lobby changes. I think it's awsome

[peak beacon]

this patch absolutely cooked the game

[pure briar]

224's were the best thing to happen to this game

[tribal yoke]

Gear dif is a thing but at some point you either get gear yourself, skill dif them or just keep complaining when you could be playing the game.

[dry hedge]

barb druid all you see in this damn game

[gentle rose]

just buy a legendary weapon for 200 gold and kill people with gear everyone complaining SKILL DIFF

[gritty heart]

true

[long saddle]

I love KRUSHING TIMMIY's in my min maxed 124 gear score 9 true damage hatcher barb with 200 hp and 30% pdr and 300 movespeed LMAO LES GO

[idle blade]

Man this system so totally doesn't benefit super aggro players like the devs intended

[red cradle]

youre right its so fun running my regular kit and running into full unique squads that just patrol the map to farm meat, very fun makes me want to run more gear

[thorny bloom]

Def

[crude drift]

Got sent to spectate after going reds

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[feral prism]

You literally have to buy a weapon and shoes. In game gameplay is the same. I understand you dont like buying items and I feel you. They should bring back under 25s for those people and sometimes I dont wana buy stuff and just wana insta que. But im just saying. It takes 1 min to buy a blue/purp weapon and a shirt/shoes. I spent 150g on a kit. One wolf pelt is 1500g. Putting this out in hopes the people not knowing what to do buy a cheap weapon at least.

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[open quest]

Its kinda funny that everyone ive seen defending the change cant spell.

[delicate flint]

and you and your blue weapon will get roflstomped by the cheeto encrusted turd running full crafted gear, +3 all atts, and 7 true damage

[obtuse grotto]

that is only part of the problem, i used to run into similar skill level players because i was in under 25gs, with the gs cap removed, all of the players who run gear and know the game better, as i previously stated, are in the same lobbies and i legit cant kill them because Im not that good, and I can;t get that good because I die instantly trying to fight someone

[cinder steppe]

you couldn't have said it any better...."how the hell am i supposed to do that when I am getting jumped by everyone who is better than me".. @glad thunder hes talking about learning how to play your game. you cant honestly tell me that you think allowing players who know how to gear and play the game into the same lobbys as ur newer players is a good idea. youve RUINED your new player experience and almost every time a new player starts this game there not going to have a good time and there not going to have fun. they WILL quit the majority of them at least because just like St4rDust said with the quote. sdf listen to your community right now and make the right choice here and revert this decision

[paper swallow]

holy shit, nobody wants to fight, everyone just runs lmao

[timid ridge]

please bring back 24's i want to play the game

[severe quest]

just cleared 4 modules in hell and ran through two and never found portals in time even though they used to have portals in previous updates awesome, love that

[dry osprey]

let me bring my life after death into normals

[drowsy thicket]

@glad thunder since you want 0-123 norms just make it with no gear score and let people get named in norms get ride of high roller and make it so warlord is the new demigod

[kind lance]

who agrees that hell map should not be randomized

[noble girder]

i’m wondering why people who play fill que are so fucking bad

[dusky yew]

They should've done a level cap instead of GS cap. Level 20 and up play in 25-124. Level 20 and below play in 0-24

[zenith onyx]

True, it's my weak point.

Anyway, I've been playing literally all day and have not once ran into a problem with hyper min-maxed 123 geared people. I really think everyone complaining here isn't doing so from experience, just their own anxiety about MAYBE having to fight someone at a gear disadvantage.

Decent weapon and movespeed are like 200g tops. C'mon guys. Let's be honest here.

[vital flicker]

Thats a balance issue, not a matchmaking one. I completly agree that true damage is insane and should probably just not exist in this game. Same goes for the movement speed system as a whole. But rejecting a (not so bad) change just because game has bigger problems is stupid.

[red cradle]

literal million gold kits and im put into the same lobby with my purples, there is a definitely a chance for me to do anything trust

[latent mortar]

I’m happy for you but my experience has been getting run down 4 modules over by dudes min maxing cobalt. Change the gear brackets back plz

[feral prism]

plus 3 all att so scary against my same kinda kit just without all att. Oh no they have 3 percent more attack speed, 3 percent more damage than me, 3 hp and they move slightly faster than me. Oh no. In under 25s people could dif u in speed too with plus 5 move speed shoes. And guess what? I have the chance to make thousands with my 150g kit. I will take that fight 20 times over thats great for me and exactly what my team looks for every time. A chance to make tons of money from any mistake the enemy makes all for the cost of some potions.

[thorny bloom]

Yeah why dont you kill the giga over geared and min maxed players with the squire kits just get get rofle (says the overgeared players wanting to curb stomp newer players)

[open quest]

But WHY was it changed? What did it actually improve? Its not about if its not that bad.. its just bad for no benefit whatsoever. It didnt help anybody and took away a popular game mode.

[delicate flint]

you're not repoze or skinnypete bud, you're not winning fights against full true damage stacks in squire gear, I guarantee it.

[fallen inlet]

ur not them either

[peak beacon]

i actually unironically LOVE being killed by 124 players any not even being able to play the game. super fun

[nova bluff]

skill issue

[severe quest]

100% shouldnt be randomized until fog of war is fixed at the bare minimum

[grim snow]

gear brackets were the only thing good with this game and its honestly disgusting that the devs literally want to ruin the game they have never listened to their playerbase why the hell would you want to treat ur game like this

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[zenith onyx]

I mean, they said it pretty clearly in the patch notes:

" We don’t want the default decision for players to simply run headlong into battle. Therefore, we have decided to test the removal of the lower gear-score lobbies in their respective Normal and HR matchmaking pools"

learn to run away? spacing and general movement is like 70% of the skill expression in this game, I really don't think a lot of these complaints are reasonable (including emote nonsense like above)

[tired echo]

so true