Baldur's Gate

[sweet moat]

Lol, found a book that reads like Google Map reviews:

[quick bobcat]

Jeez

That's kind of insane

[sweet moat]

That's the best armor for paladins and fighters, hands down.

[desert dove]

God dammit. I keep failing all my rolls with the Gith at the Mountain Pass, and it's always a TPK, so ... I guess I'm not doing that quest path.

Finally got through it. Lae'zel, you're a terrible liar.

[quick bobcat]

You can try to come back later and kill them if you can't get the rolls

[sweet moat]

I just ||drew a terrible mustache on a regal Gith portrait without anyone seeing it, then slipped away. Now a Gith youth is frantically trying to scrub it off.||

[desert dove]

... well. I guess I need to double back and do the Underdark bit first.

[kindred talon]

tbh that message doesn't seem to actually end act 1

[quick bobcat]

Some NPCs may move into the new area and some events may happen back in the starting area if you do that though

[kindred talon]

do they? who?

like the tieflings all disappeared on me

but that was due to the party

I'm not sure what to do with this creche and it makes me sad

[quick bobcat]

I'm not 100% sure but I think that one deep gnome moves to the new area

[sweet moat]

I'm just exploring it for now, finishing up any quests, and then when I leave I'm gonna ||try to steal that Gith egg for Lady Esther and make a quick getaway before anyone notices. Lae'zel can suck it. :P||

[kindred talon]

||stealing a child? criminal.||

[sweet moat]

||Apparently nobody, not even Wyll, seems to mind.||

[kindred talon]

||Wyll actually likes stealing children, he's super cool with it.||

[sweet moat]

Besides, all of the Gith are kinda cruel, racist, smug bastards anyway.

Also, it's for a good cause.

[kindred talon]

he needs a first born child so he can get out of his pact and/or upgrade it to a superpact

[sweet moat]

[kindred talon]

"I'm going to run so many political attack ads with this" - Wyll, presumably

it seems really hard to get good clothing for wizard folk

Like everyone sells armor, no one sells robes

[quick bobcat]

There's a lot of robes and clothes sold in act 2 I noticed

Also you can put light armor on wizards

[heavy hound]

I need to know for those that reached Act 3
Did any of you get ||"evolved?"||

[kindred talon]

can you? you can't wear light armor as a sorc

[night oracle]

Me, exploring behidn the ||burning villa||. Ah, barn! With a frightened ox! It's okay, we have animal handling. And a +4 bonus. And Shadowheart's bonus. And it's only difficulty 10

[quick bobcat]

My gale can wear light armor

[night oracle]

Critical fail.

[quick bobcat]

I use inspiration in those cases

You get it very often anyway

[night oracle]

didn't have any, wasn't my MC talking

[quick bobcat]

I have like max inspiration on my companions because I never use their inspiration

[night oracle]

oh my fucking god it just happened AGAIN

[kindred talon]

hrmp

okay then

[heavy hound]

Fuck I did it just to see what it'd give me, ||intending to reload, and now I don't want to go back, this shit is insanely powerful||

As a sidenote, light armor and shield proficency is give by humans in this version of the game

Which is why gale can wear them

Normally casters can't

[night oracle]

I just found the ||guy hiding in the next building and i crit failed again and it almost killed half my group soooo fuck that i'm reloading||

[quick bobcat]

What is so powerful?

[kindred talon]

ah

[heavy hound]

The reason is that the normal human start would have been "+1 to all stats, or "+1 to 2 stats and a feat"
Since they didn't implement it in this version of the game they gave them a few proficencies

||Illithid powers||

[quick bobcat]

oh you were talking about ||evolved||?

[kindred talon]

I guess technically my main can wear light armor now too

[heavy hound]

||You mean I can nullify any 3 level spell with a reaction? Like, no other cost other than once per turn??||

||Also I can fucking fly 18m per turn?||

[night oracle]

Yeah that stuff is nuts

[kindred talon]

how many worms did you eat genryu

[heavy hound]

A few

Not that many, I think I like, got 3 abilities on my main character

Originally

[night oracle]

I somehow started with four of them when i first checked this

[heavy hound]

With this ||evolved stuff it gave me all the tier 1 stuff, and unloked everything and more.||

Fuck I'll reload but it hurts my soul to do it

This is for a 2nd playthrough, when I go for ||world domination||

[quick bobcat]

are you sure it's every turn and not like once per rest?

[heavy hound]

It doesn't say once per rest

The other abilities that ore once per rest, do

Fuck actually ||refusing let you do a saving throw because the power tempts you, you know what, that's true, the power tempts me, I'll roll and see what the die decides||

I failed it, seems like this is how this story goes then

[night oracle]

So I went ||past that fucker that exploded my party by savescumming and reloading. Turns out there was a smuggling operation, who wanted something. Which I'd found! ...and opened. Despite the letter saying not to open it. So they attacked me. But most of them were like 2 floors below... with a bunch of flame powder on the flor. Bwehhehehehe.||

Also many ledges

[heavy hound]

Big Shadowheart spoilers!!!!!!!!
This is really cool, I wonder if the other characters also have ||significant differences in their appearence depending on their quests||

I mean I know Wyl does, I don't think he becomes ||half devil if you kill Karlach|| but that's an international crime so that'll never happen

[night oracle]

bleh, doesn't seem too good

[sweet moat]

God DAMN this is a good dual-wielding rogue weapon.

[heavy hound]

This seems pretty good if nothing else because you chose where to summon them

Does it matter that much if your summon goes berserk if it's in the middle of an enemy group?

It changes how you use summons but seems fun

[sweet moat]

hugs her tightly

Shadowheart spoilers/context: ||there's some wolves in the Gith creche, and she hates wolves. She's terrified of them, and refuses to go anywhere near them. Apparently, the Mother Superior of the Shar cult used to threaten to literally throw her to the wolves if Shadowheart disobeyed.||

[heavy hound]

Fair warning, unlike from Act 1 to Act 2, going to Act 3 doesn't seem like it lets you come back.

[night oracle]

... Laezel is so bad at speaking that ||i had to reload a save and speak to this gith patrol myself in order to not die ||

[night oracle]

Argh so close to level 5

[kindred talon]

do these bonuses apply to spells?

@heavy hound do you know?

[heavy hound]

It's with attack with that weapon specifically I'm pretty sure.
Maybe the crit buff applies on the whole character, not 100% sure tho

I don't have that thing to test it

[kindred talon]

mmm

okay

it turns out I can't use it anyway lol

[heavy hound]

Shortsword, yeah

Unless you take a level in something

If you take a single level in something you honestly sacrifice very little, you lose one talent and 1 sorcery point

So it might be worth considering

[sweet moat]

Sooo, big Lae'zel and Shadowheart spoilers here: ||after slaying the Gith Inquisitor in the creche, I got a chance to talk with their queen. She ordered me to go into the artifact Shadowheart has and kill the person inside it, who is actually the dream visitor. However...literally nothing is stopping me from just walking away. Sure, Lae'zel might get pissed at me later, but why ruin what I have with Shadowheart just to appease Lae'zel, who I really, really detest anyway? Like, she's one of the evilest members of the party, openly racist and self-righteous, has absolutely no likeable qualities besides her, ahem, "dommy mommy" personality (which I suspect is why people like her to begin with), and she frankly disgusts me. F*ck her, I'm walking away. No Gith god can tell me what to do. ||

[heavy hound]

Aren't you curious to ||confront the person inside more directly tho? Hear what they have to say about the Gith queen that send to kill them? ||
Honestly it's why I went in there

[sweet moat]

I suppose? But wouldn't there be more opportunities anyway?

[heavy hound]

Maybe, ||it doesn't seem to be super easy to physically go into that thing at will, unless its inhabitant invites us||

[sweet moat]

True, but I ||don't really want to kill her. I don't trust her, but not enough to kill her.||

Fine, persuasion check passed, you win.

[heavy hound]

lol

[sweet moat]

Still don't give two hoots about Lae'zel though.

[heavy hound]

When I went in there I had ||zero intention to kill her TBH||

Not that the Queen had to know about that tho

[kindred talon]

I sure do end up killing a lot of children in this game

[night oracle]

Yaaaay level 5

[sweet moat]

Welp, time to kill ||the entire creche, since I didn't kill the guardian.||

[heavy hound]

It's self defense

[sweet moat]

And extra experience.

Besides, this makes the whole ||"I'mma steal your kid"|| thing a little less awkward.

[kindred talon]

me: murder is wrong
also me: so anyway I just started blasting

[desert dove]

d

JH\

[kindred talon]

indeed

[desert dove]

That's what I got stuck on earlier.

[sweet moat]

Hello cat. :P

[kindred talon]

I figured it out

the TEXT is wrong

[desert dove]

Yeah, Maui is demanding belly rubs

[kindred talon]

it's not about advancing the act, it's about the fact that you're loading a new map

[night oracle]

My MC is a Gith so I think I have an upper hand that you don't

[sweet moat]

Also, is it just me, or are ||the Gith in the creche extremely easy to kill? Like, way easier than the ones at the bridge?||

[desert dove]

The ones ||on the bridge|| seem to be elite soldiers.

[night oracle]

I went in at level 4 and failed the convo and by the end of the first round (they had initiative, of course), most of my party was at 10% health

[desert dove]

Even at level 5, they wiped my party multiple times.

[night oracle]

Yeah I can see that

[heavy hound]

It's also the start of act 2

[desert dove]

I do think I'm going to go back and clear the Underdark before proceeding through the ||Mountain Pass into the creche||.

[heavy hound]

Unless you don't get the achievment ||right away when you go through the Mountain pass rather than the underdark||

I have a few questions about how this game works if you pick certain classes

In particoular Clerics

If you are a cleric of an evil god, I feel like the situation will be very interesting, I wonder if you can literally just wholly side with the bad guys

[desert dove]

My understanding is that you can be really fucking evil if you want to. I don't know if you can fully side with the bad guys, but I know you can ||lead the goblins to the druid grove & have it destroyed|| if you want. Apparently you can even ||incite a fight between the tieflings and the druids before that, letting them wipe each other out||.

[sweet moat]

Huh...strangely, Lae'zel didn't kill me on sight.

Wtf...I think I've discovered a bug. Every time I try to fast travel to the Sussur Tree in the underdark, I instead get put on a long rest in my camp.

...Uuuuhhh...now it won't let me fast travel anywhere or allow me to leave an area without long-resting first. I guess I'll just do it, but this doesn't seem correct.

...Oooooh, never mind, it isn't a bug.

It's a mandatory story event after you go to bed. Weird though that the game doesn't tell you that.

[sweet moat]

UMMM...did I just break Act 2? When you ||free the pixie, she gives you a Blessing of the Pixie, which enables you to walk around freely through the Shadow Lands. It is required in order to get to Moonrise Towers.|| It's no longer there. It got removed when I long-rested...

Oh wait, nvm, I forgot, ||she gave me a bell to put it back on again.||

This is not my night for IRL intelligence rolls.

[sweet moat]

@heavy hound Is there a way to use an action to get a character out of the "constricted" effect?

Or any kind of immobility?

[heavy hound]

I don't think so, by yourself at least, I know another character can usually help you out of it in certain circumstances

In the tabletop you can use your action to retry the saving throw but I didn't find a way to do it in the game version

In most cases teleportation spells work tho

Like misty step out of a snare works

[sweet moat]

Well, one character is down, two are immobile, and the fourth may or may not be able to make it there in time.

[heavy hound]

So if you have a scroll of misty step you can use that

[sweet moat]

Also, I just tried using the dimension door spell, but that doesn't work to get me out of being immobile.

[kindred talon]

my game crashed :(

I'm sad. crushed, even

[heavy hound]

It really depends from the variety of immobilisation

[sweet moat]

...The misty step just teleported the constriction vines with me.

That's dumb.

That's not how the spell is supposed to work

[heavy hound]

Weird, I thought I used that to get out of it

[sweet moat]

It's supposed to only teleport you

[heavy hound]

I mean at least it does allow you to move

[kindred talon]

(GT is discovering the surprise act 3 twist where it turns out all the infected characters are actually plants)

[sweet moat]

It allows me to move once, and it was my only scroll.

I was trying to move to a spot where I could get away from the guy doing the immobilization spell. Instead I'm still stuck.

[kindred talon]

if you don't mind burning just light it on fire

[sweet moat]

I've tried that too

That just hurts me

[kindred talon]

that's why fire does

[sweet moat]

I hate immobilization spells like this. It lasts for five turns.

[heavy hound]

If anyone is concentrating on the spell you can try to damage him to have them drop concentration

Also the caracter should roll at the start of every turn to get free

[sweet moat]

They don't

[heavy hound]

That's weird, it doesn't sound like any spell I've been hit so far in the game

[sweet moat]

In any case, I managed to rescue one of them, so hopefully I can turn it around now

[heavy hound]

But maybe I didn't pay attention to it

[kindred talon]

what spell was it?

[sweet moat]

Some kind of vine constriction from a shadow-cursed blight.

[kindred talon]

oh

well

you should try not to be in there, what with the deadliness

[sweet moat]

In any case, I turned it around. Karlach nearly bit the dust but she actually saved me at the start of combat. There was no way I could pass a DC 30 perception to see the ambush, so I would've been surprised. But Karlach cannot be surprised at level 7, so I sent her in alone to kill off the two free rounds the enemies would've gotten, and then double back to join up with everyone else.

[sweet moat]

Literally can't help it, I'm in Act 2 and this is where I need to be.

[kindred talon]

I miss having karlach on my team

[sweet moat]

Why don't you?

[kindred talon]

I needed lae'zel for the cutscenes

[heavy hound]

She is reduntant for me, I try to bring them sometimes but 2 barbs is a bit much

[kindred talon]

I can't part with shadowheart

[heavy hound]

But yeah, I try to bring whoever is important for the quest at hand

[kindred talon]

and Gale is like fine ale, can't get enough of that goober

[heavy hound]

Also fireball

[kindred talon]

I'm also running out of space

my poor bags

I'm actually causing the economy to crash because the merchents are running out of gold

[heavy hound]

Yeah I occasionally just highlight my whole inventory and send everything but the few things I need to camp

[kindred talon]

you what

[heavy hound]

You can send stuff to camp

Like

[kindred talon]

can I add additional storage?

[heavy hound]

Whenever

At any moment

And it has infinite storage

[kindred talon]

WHAT

NO YOU'RE LYING

[heavy hound]

It's the saving grace of this trash inventory system

If it wasn't the game I would have stopped playing sometimes in act 1

[kindred talon]

I've left so many corpses unlooted

I'm destroyed, emotionally

[heavy hound]

Once in a while I just go back to camp, put all of the magic items in a bag for easy retrieval, and the rest in another

I also have bags for potions, oils, and arrows

[kindred talon]

my character: "cursed to put my hands on everything"

anyway

I guess I better get back to it

[heavy hound]

I wish you could name containers

It'd make it much easier

[kindred talon]

oh, great

a real life thunderstorm

[kindred talon]

according to a reddit post, it does effect all attacks

[sweet moat]

What does?

[heavy hound]

You could multiclass in 1 level of ranger, get quite a few stuff from it, on top of proficency to use that short sword and armor

at the cost of a feat and one sorcery point

Both Natural explorer and favored enemies are at lvl 1 dip, not half bad at the cost of one single level

[kindred talon]

the knife of the undermountain king

[sweet moat]

Should I multiclass one level into fighter as a rogue?

[heavy hound]

Or 2 level of Paladin and you could use your spell slot for smiting, even tho I think your intention is to mainly cast stuff from afar, and for that, I think 1 level of ranger is better since it'd be just some skills and resistences, and the ability to use armor

As a rogue IDK, but I would recomment at least 2 level into fighter

The main perk of multiclassing into fighter is action surge IMO

That said at level one fighting style isn't shabby either
Defense for +1 AC, Archery and two-weapon fighting are good depending on what your rogue is doing

Plus you get access to medium armor, even tho as rogue you are probably better off using light armor anyway

Because of the high dex

That said with a 2 level dip you do lose 1d6 on your sneak attack, so you decide if it's worth it to be able to take 2 actions once per short rest

[sweet moat]

Hmmm, for rogue, I'd miss out on reliable talent, a feat, and 1d6 extra sneak attack damage, but honestly, to multiclass into a fighter and get action surge + a fighting style + ALL weapon proficiencies (meaning better ranged options and even more options for melee weapons), this is acceptable.

I think for the next two levelups I'll multiclass into fighter. I'm at level 8 right now.

[heavy hound]

I still think ranger is a superior pick

For a small dip

Actually in some ways the fighter dip is better for rogue

You are right

[sweet moat]

The ranger as it is in D&D doesn't fit my playstyle, and even though they greatly improved it in BG3, it's still far too situational for my liking.

[heavy hound]

You'd still essentially play it as a rogue

[sweet moat]

Yeah

Now for a second question: besides ability score increases, what's a good feat for Shadowheart (being a cleric)?

[heavy hound]

I go for war caster

Basically all her good spells require concentration, and I don't play her from afar

[sweet moat]

Oooooh that's true. Yeah, that's a must.

[heavy hound]

I even respecced as War domain, which still ||fits quite a bit with her story and her wanting to become a Dark Justiciar||

I got so much good shit on my main character recently, that I should do a respec if nothing else to clear things and take away some stuff that's reduntant now

[sweet moat]

Ooooh, I should respec her, yeah. Does she still keep her spells like sacred flame, guiding bolt, and spirit guardians?

[heavy hound]

I think some of those spells become domain spells

Meaning that she has them always prepared

And you can prepare other stuff instead

[sweet moat]

Ah, cool

Oh, I just remembered something

[heavy hound]

In the War Domain at least, there are other options too

[sweet moat]

My rogue has some gloves that give him the two-weapon fighting style from the fighter class, so technically when I multiclass I can have two fighting styles. :)

I can get the archery one for even better ranged attacks

[heavy hound]

Yeah, those are pretty good, unless you want to swap out gloves

I've seen gloves that add 1d4 force damage to sneak attack for example

[sweet moat]

Meh

[heavy hound]

It's more dices

Also force is a really good type of damage

I do use the gloves you mentioned on Asterion tho, that said, I don't use Asterion all that often

[sweet moat]

Yeah, but my dexterity modifier is a +4, soon to be +5, with is already better than the extra 1d4, and I've got the savage attacker feat, so any weapon attack, main hand or off-hand, will roll two dice and take the highest damage roll. I was already dealing immense damage with my rogue, now I'll do even more, and with 2 levels in fighter, I'll basically become the Tasmanian devil from Looney Tunes, but sneaky.

[night oracle]

[quick bobcat]

how come I just missed a cantrip if this is supposed to make them unmissable?

[quick bobcat]

[night oracle]

...is he just a pile of sliced meat on the floor now?

[quick bobcat]

you can say that

that's not even all of it

[night oracle]

I mean, that's enough to just leave a pile of giblets on the floor

[desert dove]

The way that reads, it only applies to cantrips that require the target to make a Saving Throw. If it's a cantrip that acts as a Ranged spell attack, you can still miss.

So, sacred flame would never miss, but fire bolt could.

[desert dove]

That reminds me, I need to respec my Ranger. I'm loving him, but finding the familiar mostly useless.

[heavy hound]

I kinda want to try to make a beastmaster ranger at some point

[desert dove]

I considered it, but my Gloom Stalker hits like a truck on his first combat round, so I'm sticking with that.

[heavy hound]

It's more because beastmaster on the tabletop is complete trash but they heavily homebrewed it for the videogame

So it warrants some exploration

[quick bobcat]

Well that's dumb

My wizard doesn't even have any saving throw cantrips

[desert dove]

It's more common for Clerics, yeah. I think most of the arcane cantrips with Saving Throws are stuff like command or other Charm spells.

[quick bobcat]

Why would a conjurer wizard even need a perk like that

[desert dove]

Ah, acid splash is a DEX save

poison spray is a CON save. vicious mockery is a WIS save.

So yeah, I don't know why an Evoker gets that feature. None of those are Evocation spells.

[quick bobcat]

Oh yeah, I meant evoker

[desert dove]

Should probably be something like giving you Advantage on ranged spell attack cantrips instead, for something more useful. Though that could be very OP.

[heavy hound]

It's more that it's the big damage class so it makes sense, less reliant on spell slots to do some guaranteed damage

[quick bobcat]

Yeah, that would be great

[heavy hound]

A bit odd for sure tho

It makes sense for what that class is supposed to do as far as how you use it, but not much in class fantasy

[desert dove]

Yeah, as it stands, it really only affects two cantrips total for the Evoker. A bit of an odd duck.

On that note, I'm really torn between making my Dark Urge playthrough character a Warlock or a Wizard.

Though I also came up with a silly concept: a Tiefling (for Fire Resistance) Draconic Sorcerer (with Green Dragon ancestry for Poison Resistance).

Or could go all-in on Fire damage with Red/Gold/Brass ancestry, though you don't get more resistance that way.

[quick bobcat]

spoilers act 2:
I keep ||getting ambushed||

every ||combat encounter is an ambush||

[heavy hound]

A trick I found while exploring to help with that

Keep enhance ability wisdom on your highest perception character while exploring

[quick bobcat]

[heavy hound]

So you have advantage for spotting the ambush, and whatever else

[quick bobcat]

enhance ability?

[heavy hound]

Cleric and druid spell

You chose a statistic and you have advantage in ability (so not combat) rolls for that ability

It's a level 2 concentration spell

Useful in conversation but not exclusively

[quick bobcat]

Oh I don't think I have that prepared

[heavy hound]

I guess also bard

[sweet moat]

How the f*ck.

[quick bobcat]

have you not been to the ||toll house|| yet?

[sweet moat]

I have

I did not encounter anything like that

[heavy hound]

Be prepared for act 3, having summons active is extra annoying there, I ended up having to park them off where they wouldn't annoy the locals

[quick bobcat]

yeah I already got too annoyed with them and switched all of my raise dead spells out and re-specced gale into an evoker

also they're just too weak at this point

[quick bobcat]

||the toll collector will do a shitton of damage for every coin she has or something like that. It's pretty insane||

[sweet moat]

...Are you talking about a different toll house than the one where Karlach was?

[heavy hound]

After talking about beastmaster ranger I decided to respec one of the companions you get later into one to see how they worked, it's why I say that

Apparently Shadowheart is not the only person that gets upset by a bear sized wolf

[sweet moat]

[heavy hound]

I do kinda also like the idea of putting the dude hiding in the outskirts, ready to come to help should a fight ensues, feel very good RP wise

[quick bobcat]

no, I mean the one in the cursed land

[heavy hound]

That said if I had the 12 summons builds you had, I'd probably be to extra annoyed by the process

One is fine

Also I'm ||investigating a murder|| and having a ranger to do this feels appropriate

[quick bobcat]

I didn't realize you could take ability improvement twice (or thrice even, I'm guessing)

so what you should do during character creation is put only 16 points into your main ability

[sweet moat]

Ooooooh...then no, I haven't been there yet.

[sweet moat]

You can't, it caps at 20.

Well, sorta

[quick bobcat]

since having 17 does nothing and you can put those points into something more useful

then when you get your feat you can level up to 18 and then 20 on your second

[sweet moat]

You can't manually put more than 20 points into an ability, but there are elixors and magical items that can increase it even further by just a couple points.

[quick bobcat]

I think you missed my point. I do know that

I assumed that you can't take the same feat multiple times

but apparently you can

[heavy hound]

Yeah starting with 16 (15+1 racial bonus) is IMO ideal, unless your first feat is gonna be a half feat that goes on that ability

[sweet moat]

But during character creation, the default spread already puts you at 17 for your main ability anyway.

[quick bobcat]

yeah, which is dumb

[sweet moat]

Why?

[quick bobcat]

.

[sweet moat]

Not quite.

[heavy hound]

The deafult spreads are okay but not super optimised

[sweet moat]

You're given two points in an ability stat increase, so you can put one point into your main ability to bring it to 18, and then another point somewhere else (likely constitution or dexterity) to make them even too. That's what I did.

[heavy hound]

A novice is probably better off with them, but someone that knows the systems is definitely gonna come up with a better one

[heavy hound]

Yeah but you have to wait 4 levels with extra points on stuff that don't to anything

[quick bobcat]

yeah, but my point is that there is no reason to get 17 during character creation, because it's not gonna do anything for you. You can put that 1 point into another ability instead

then when you get your feat, you can put 2 into your main to get it from 16 to 18

[heavy hound]

Even 2 points, if you level a characteristic under 14

Or was it 12?

[quick bobcat]

12 I think

[heavy hound]

Still, most character befit from a 12 in wis rather than a 10

[quick bobcat]

wis saves are the most common, right?

[heavy hound]

Since it's a common saving throw and it's the ability you use for perception

[quick bobcat]

con is also good though since there's a lot of con saves and it gives hp

[heavy hound]

True

[sweet moat]

Concentration is the most common, I think. And I think that one is helped by constitution.

[quick bobcat]

there's a couple of cha and dex saves too and I think I've never seen a str or int save

[heavy hound]

For mental rolls, wis is the most common saving throws, for physical stats, dex is the most common saving throw followed closely by constitution, especially if you have concentration spells

[sweet moat]

Also, little-known fact about constitution for the tabletop version of the game: the ability modifier number for constitution is the same number of minutes your character can survive underwater without needing to go up for air.

[heavy hound]

Dex is used in pretty much all the high damage spells

Fireball and that stuff

So it's really really goot to have it high

[quick bobcat]

are there any str or int saves at all?

[heavy hound]

Yes, int saves is primarly against illusion spells

[sweet moat]

Intelligence, not so much, but there are strength saving throws

[heavy hound]

Str there is sometimes, STR tho is important more because it makes you better at avoiding being shoved

[sweet moat]

Strength saving throws come from physical combat, like shoving, grappling, sometimes restraining, etc.

[heavy hound]

Which can be deadly

[kindred talon]

I never know what to hex

Frustratingly reapply hex and slow are concentrations

[sweet moat]

When in doubt, concentration for spell casters, and strength or dexterity for warriors.

[kindred talon]

Just roll all clerics and have everyone use spirit guardians

No weapons only prayers

[sweet moat]

Checkmate athiests.

[heavy hound]

Worth mentioning is that CON is also used for all the poison stuff and other stuff that affects your body, like blindness and shit

[kindred talon]

Watching melee enemies walk into and instantly die is fun

[sweet moat]

[heavy hound]

Looking at stuff better, INT seems mostly be for resisting Ithilid powers, which is not nothing in this game especially but yeah, it's not common

[sweet moat]

https://dotesports.com/baldurs-gate/news/a-baldurs-gate-3-loot-bug-means-you-may-be-missing-out-on-precious-items

[heavy hound]

If that's the case, so be it, the characters are absurdly powerful already, it'll make for a better run the 2nd time when they fixed it

[sweet moat]

Lol

I mean, that's fair

But loooooot

[heavy hound]

Like, I don't feel like I'm short on loot, I have a chest with 136 magic items and that's the stuff I'm not using

[sweet moat]

You've been keeping all that? I've just been selling the ones I'm not using, now that ||Gale doesn't need to eat any more.||

[heavy hound]

I mean, I might need the 13 magic helbards I have

Joking aside I plan to sell some when I need money

[sweet moat]

I love how the "trade" option in shops is so that you can still buy stuff if you have l i t t l e m o n e y, but like...you'll be swimming in gold if you just sell stuff you're not using.

[quick bobcat]

my cleric has so many spells that I need 4 rows in my hotbar now

[weak cedar]

Merc what cpu is better AMD or intel?

[quick bobcat]

nvidia

[weak cedar]

This is what I am getting

[quick bobcat]

you're in the wrong channel Blade

[weak cedar]

[kindred talon]

Failed a perception check I see

[heavy hound]

This is the system I'm following on full spellcasters

[sweet moat]

Headcanoning this to be Asterion, lol.

[sweet moat]

Oh man, I should do the same. That's so much better.

[heavy hound]

I like it because it's easy to put spells where they belong after you change them up

The one class that strains it a bit is cleric since you can get in trouble with the lvl1-lvl4 row, since you have so many spells

[quick bobcat]

wait you can arrange them yourself?

I didn't realize

[heavy hound]

Yeah, you can put things wherever

[heavy hound]

Also heads up, a lot of quests actually need you to long rest to advance, especially in act 3.
So I suggest you do it more often than necessary or you could very easly miss some important step that could lock you out of some events

[desert dove]

I've seen one STR save, and that's to ||break down the door of the burning building in Waukeen's Rest||.

[desert dove]

The buttons on the right let you adjust the menu. + and - increase/decrease the number of rows, you can slide the dividers left or right, and if you click the lock icon you can drag icons around inside their grid.

[desert dove]

Well, fuck. Now I'm suspicious of all those empty chests.

[glossy palm]

https://x.com/cromwelp/status/1691085306664030208?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

[sweet moat]

Welp, I just found an exquisite BG3 meme, but I can't post it.

[glossy palm]

Upcoming update will allow you to change your look ingame

[sweet moat]

Thank f`ck.

Please let them add more customization opitions for hirelings.

[desert dove]

Oooh, nice. I made a few choices when starting out, and I'd like to alter them.

[sweet moat]

I want my fully custom party, dang it.

[heavy hound]

It's kind of fun looking at my character, back when I started and now you can tell she went through some shit
||"Back then we had fun, we dual weilded salami just because we could" vs "Now it's emotional damage all the way through""||

[desert dove]

My main problem is I was careless with my voice option, so my character has a much more masculine voice than I'd prefer.

[heavy hound]

I wonder how hard would it be to find the variable in the save file and change just that

[glossy palm]

I do wish they added more voice options

4 seems kinda limited.

[heavy hound]

Those are probably not in the cards

[glossy palm]

Yeah i understand

[heavy hound]

There are so many voice lines to record for each

Even if the protagonist is largely not voiced

There must be still hundreds if not thousands through the game

[desert dove]

Oh, I forgot to mention, I managed to make a fun combo the other day:

Shit that hits me gets struck by lightning.

[heavy hound]

Nice

[kindred talon]

Jolty seems like a named set

I have an amulet and and shield too

[desert dove]

Something the wiki page doesn't mention is that after your 5th Lightning Charge, the next time you deal damage with the bow it also deals a bunch of bonus Lightning damange.

[kindred talon]

Yeah there seems to be no pause button

It makes conversations interesting

[desert dove]

No direct pause, but you can go into Turn Based mode and that's effectively a pause button.

[kindred talon]

My first party wipe was when I walked into the Druid fire trap, realized I was in danger and tried to run, only to mid lick on gale and have him talk

While were all being nuked

Yes we took damage

Yes everyone died

[desert dove]

Yuuup, I've had that exact same kind of death myself.
"Oh hey, I've been meaning to talk to you about auuuuuugh!"

[kindred talon]

The other time was with that screaming windmill gnome

Man… who was it? Shadow heart? Went on this crazy long preamble after something happened to gale

It was crazy

[desert dove]

Mhm. Those are always interesting moments.

Similar to the Bethesda Fallout games, where you randomly get a companion's loyalty high enough they start talking to you right as an enemy locks on. You're having a nice conversation as grenades start landing at your feet.

[heavy hound]

Relationship spoilers
||Ok so, In my game I was already in a relationship with Shadowheart, Halsin came in suble like a freigh train tho, and the whole interaction felt really good, told him I was interested but already in a relationship, he told me he wouldn't mind sharing, I told him I'd have that cleared with Shadowheart||

||Went and did that, she was okay with it, came back and the whole intraction felt really well handled.||

||I wonder with how many characters this is possible with, all voiced, all seamlessly working into each other, this is insane, does he have a voiceline for every character you are with, and they have voicelines for every other character you might be having an interest in? Sure some of them aren't okay with an open relationship? Are Threesome a thing and what combinations? This feels more complicated than the main fucking story||

[night oracle]

Someone in my camp has shoes that turn water electric. Would be nice to add to the jolty set

I can't remember who i gave it to

[desert dove]

I've got those, but I've never actually had a fight in water to use them.

[night oracle]

Same. And I suspect it would hurt me just as much as the enemy

[desert dove]

... man, reading a forum thread about BG3, some guy quit the game because it was too hard and he couldn't win any fights.

Turns out, he got rid of all his companions except Wyll, so it was just the two of them fighting everything.

The only companion I had was the warlock you meet at the druid hole. The rogue guy ambushed me, so that was it for him. The wizard in the space hole was weird and hiding something, so he had to go. The gith attacked me as soon as I let her out of the cage, so much for her. Shadowheart? I just didn't fucking trust her, so I told her to hit the bricks.

[night oracle]

[heavy hound]

I mean that's fair but you are gonna have to play really smart until you can get some hirelings

[desert dove]

Nah, he just whined the game was impossible and quit playing.

[night oracle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g5VvEPFucE (not sure how spoilery this is)

Not very, so far, but hilarious

[desert dove]

Oh god, I love VA outtakes

Frantic Bi Energy

[night oracle]

Definitely the title of the game

(and there's two more in related videos!)

[quick bobcat]

also, Gen, I think that ||illithid power that nullifies spells for free|| is only once per long rest. The reason I think so is because I have ||this passive power|| and nowhere does it say that it requires a long rest, but I noticed that it does

[heavy hound]

Very well might be

They should definitely clarify it tho, you can tell that despite all of the work behind it, some stuff still need some QOL pass

[sweet moat]

Are the Illithid powers actually bad for you to use, story-wise?

[heavy hound]

No idea, I assume it'll change the ending

But I didn't finish the game yet

[quick bobcat]

they seem pretty weak so far so I haven't skilled many

only like 2

[heavy hound]

I did a thing at some point and they are now all bonus actions, which make them a lot more usable

For the curious, Act 2 mountain pass spoilers ||I kinda ate the brain eating machine in the Kreche||

I still don't use them much except the ones that are reactions or the ||flying||

[desert dove]

So, I don't know if this is true, but I ran into a spoiler on a wiki that basically said ||you're more likely to get a bad ending with all the powers unlocked||.

[heavy hound]

I mean, depends what you mean with ||bad ending||

The story of a hero that gets ||temped by power and gets undone by it, is just as valid, assuming that's the direction go with||

It's what I'm expecting for my character

[desert dove]

In this case ||completing the transformation into an Illithid||.

[heavy hound]

I mean, I've met a ||few Illithids, some seems to be okay||

That'd be a ||wild direction and kind of awesome, very curious to see where it goes||

[night oracle]

https://twitter.com/luxthos/status/1691164569522012160

Luxthos on Twitter

Quick tips for #BaldursGate3 - If you ever removed the gear from one of your character in order to replace them in your party. Make sure to give them some clothes before you finish the game.

It might ruin or improve your cinematic.

Twitter · Aug 14, 2023, 7:07 PM

(the pic in the tweet is an underwear wearin' bootay)

[desert dove]

https://youtu.be/4uuLimtodX0

[kindred talon]

oh for fuck's sake

I had some imp critters summoned, and they explode on death

I take a long rest and guess what happens

[eternal hawk]

You get a warning if you're going too far with adding powers.
As for endings there isn't really a good or bad endings, they're just endings based on your choices.

The powers themselves aren't really needed, using them is if you think your character would or not.

[desert dove]

I made the mistake of destroying the ||Necromancy of Thay book|| in my camp, which caused a fight. I still have a grease puddle in my camp, and I'm afraid to burn it away.

[quick bobcat]

is it me or is the ||yurgir|| fight literally impossible?

I'm currently level 8 and I can't do shit. Am I meant to come back later?

[night oracle]

This is a heckin' large ||secret lab under this village...||

[heavy hound]

You can go from the ||side and start on the highground which is a lot better than entering from below, especially for killing the adds||
||He is annoying because he becomes invisible, if you hit him with an area spell you can reveal him tho||

[quick bobcat]

Yes I've been doing that

The problem is that all my hit chances are below 20% so even things like fireball are unlikely to ||reveal him||

Though I did forget that ||I have the bell (and also still have the ogre horn from act 1, I wonder if it'll work :p)|| so I'll try again with that next time I play

I also have shitton of bombs including runepowder, maybe if I just toss all of them under him?

[night oracle]

Wow, yeah, level five is definitely a giga power boost

[quick bobcat]

I think it's really weird how you can ||convince like literally every single boss to kill themselves||. It feels too cheesy and unfair

[kindred talon]

I need to get that book I guess

[heavy hound]

You could also prepare see invisibility as a spell. armor of agathys is also a way to make sure he gets some damage when he attacks you.
Spirit guardians are good too.

If you manage to hit him with which bolt you can keep damaging him each turn I think even if he becomes invisible, I'm less sure about that one tho.

[kindred talon]

spirit guardians feel broken

I'm fighting this spider and her hatchlings all teleport to attack me, one by one they die

[heavy hound]

lol

[kindred talon]

I feel like clerics are just better wizards, no lie

[eternal hawk]

I'm pretty sure Spirit Guardians isn't implemented correctly because you can run around killing everything, even running in and out to keep doing damage.

[heavy hound]

Last I tried if someone already took damage this turn, they don't take more, but I didn't test that extensively

So I might be wrong

[eternal hawk]

However Clerics have always had some great damage when needed, try upcasting inflict wounds sometime.

When I used it a few days ago I walked in range and it did damage, took a step in and out and it did damage each time, and then again on the start of their turn.

[kindred talon]

I'm mostly thinking that an area denial spell centered around a wizard would be SUPER HELPFUL for said wizard

[eternal hawk]

If you're evo you can fireball yourself.

[kindred talon]

sure, but I mean like a 10 turn concentrated spell

so you can do other things

[heavy hound]

A wizard that keeps some distance, hastes themselves, and slings 2 spells a turn is really really scary

I've brought down entire rooms with it

[eternal hawk]

They don't enforce the leveled spell rule so yeah.

[heavy hound]

Yep

[kindred talon]

leveled spell rule?

[eternal hawk]

A Wizard should keep Misty Step as well to get out of a situation.

[heavy hound]

In the tabletop is one spell a turn

Here you can just keep slinging

You can grease and fireball in one single turn with haste on

It's so broken, it's great

[night oracle]

||Phase spider matriach|| wasn't as bad as i was expecting, except positioning-wise

So not only did I find a rather eloquent Ogre, I managed to ||deceive him into not only being my friend aka not attacking me, but I can also summon him once during a battle? ||

[night oracle]

||For free, mind you. He was asking for money and I barbarian intimidated him ||

[unborn stratus]

||If you summon him for battle, do it early, and only do it with enough enemies, because they will get upset with you if you summon them late and they don't get to kill enough enemies||

oh you went the other route with that

yeah nice

[exotic pelican]

I see somebody any % speedran the game in 10 minutes by using Gale and a lot of jumping. Spoils the end of chapter 2.
|| https://youtu.be/tsvByUzapNk ||

[kindred talon]

playing a warlock, even indirectly, is a lot of fun

[night oracle]

https://twitter.com/larianstudios/status/1691377941614317568 When even the studio is amused by your BG3 meme

Larian Studios on Twitter

Sometimes, all you can do when the dice aren't in your favour is...have a little laugh.

Twitter · Aug 15, 2023, 9:15 AM

[jaunty basin]

but that's an essential part of the CRPG experience!

[night oracle]

Being a toxic gamer is part of crpg experience, you heard it here first folks

[jaunty basin]

tbf even Planescape ||didn't let me do that to every boss; I love the trope but it only makes sense if you know the boss super well and thus plausibly could talk them down, like Planescape's final boss||

or in Fallout 1 where ||you can learn enough about the Master's plans to find a flaw in them that even he would be forced to admit is a fatal one||

[heavy hound]

So far impressions of the 3rd act, the performance definitely did take a dip in the big city, so many fucking NPCs around, the game struggles a bit more than in other enviorments, the story gets really compelling IMO, even tho I feel like I did encounter a bit more glitches than in the previous part of the game.

[quick bobcat]

oof, my game lags in the shadow lands already

[weak cedar]

@desert dove https://twitter.com/eurogamer/status/1691392873801879552?

Eurogamer on Twitter

Speedrunner completes Baldur's Gate 3 in only 10 minutes
https://t.co/emvUz9NHvs

Twitter · Aug 15, 2023, 10:14 AM

[quick bobcat]

I'm afraid of what will happen when I advance to act 3

[heavy hound]

Yeah I think I'll have to lower a few settings

Also I stress, unlike from act 1 to act 2, you can't go back to previous acts so make sure you are ready to advance

[quick bobcat]

it wasn't actually the case in act 1, mostly because there were lots of possible outcomes and ways the story could go, which is cool.

On the other hoof, in act 2, I swear ||every single boss interaction has been very binary in the way that you either convince it to kill itself and its minions OR fight a very hard boss|| which I just find really odd. It's kind of shallow and feels cheesy, like you're skipping parts of the game. It discredits all the work you put into your party's combat abilities, in a way. And if you intentionally attempt to do ||those fights then they feel really really hard, as if the devs wanted you to take the other option instead. It's just so much easier||

_ _
this kind of design also encourages save scumming. I think the best way to discourage save scumming is by giving the player paths that are equally as interesting and fair even if they chose the 'wrong' option. But in this case the player is at a huge disadvantage and they may even miss some critical information if they fail their dialog checks

[weak cedar]

What act are you on Merc?

[quick bobcat]

2

[jaunty basin]

if it wasn't clear, I was being sarcastic / hyperbolic

[quick bobcat]

I get it, I was just rambling

[jaunty basin]

admittedly, you could make the "discredits work on combat" point against Planescape's final encounter considering ||even if you don't have the information to talk him down, it's likely (>50% ?) you'll have a plot item that makes cheesing the fight easy||

[quick bobcat]

yeah, I think that's kind of annoying

[jaunty basin]

tbf ||it has to account for the possibility that you reached the final fight with 0 companions ||

[night oracle]

"I've decided on my BG3 tattoo and it is just two words"

Karlach Approves

[heavy hound]

My next run is going to be one I can definitely use Karlach a lot more, being unable to do so has been an infinite source of pain

[desert dove]

I'm thinking this playthrough, I'm going to settle on Karlach, Wyll, and Shadowheart or Lae'zel as my main team.

Next playthrough (Dark Urge) will probably be Astarion, Gale, and drow lady. Team Evil.

[heavy hound]

I heard that the Dark Urge playthrough is really compelling if you try to resist and romance Astarion
I've seen a cutscene and the writing is really impressive

[night oracle]

So far it's me (monk), karlach and shadowheart, with the last being whoever I feel i need for story /quest purposes

[heavy hound]

The two fixed are Shadowheart and me, 3rd is usually gale or wyl, (or both) because spells are pretty strong
And the last one is whatever I need for quest purposes

[kindred talon]

Karlach is the best

she's so positive

<battle starts and it's her first turn>
Karlach: Fuck yes.

[heavy hound]

Saw a twitter post saying something like
"Goes through literal hell of enslavment and war horrors, and comes out with the personality of a golden retriever"

I love her

[kindred talon]

why can't we have 5 people in our party, LS?

why are u so cruel

[quick bobcat]

yeah I really liked Karlach from the moment I first met her but

I already had a full party and it didn't feel right to yeet one of them

I had already been with them for a while

[jaunty basin]

every game that makes me "choose a party" also makes me wish I could just bring everyone and get all the dialogue

[quick bobcat]

it's fine, I'm already planning another playthrough

[jaunty basin]

yeah, if I was the type to do multiple playthroughs it'd bother me less

[kindred talon]

yeah, same

my problem is that I rarely replay games

[jaunty basin]

I get having a fixed number of characters in combat, but since (normally) in-universe everyone's supposed to be tagging along anyway, I never understood restricting all dialogue/quest/narrative stuff to be with just those 2-3

[quick bobcat]

replayability I guess

and it'd break the balance if you could have so many characters

[jaunty basin]

I get [it] in combat

[quick bobcat]

Ah, right. Sorry

I guess I'm not sure how you'd handle having many characters run around with you and then somehow mysteriously disappear in combat other than your 4 main party members

[jaunty basin]

it is an interesting question

but most games already sort of ignore the problem by just having them all exist in your pocket

so I doubt any solution that lets them participate would be worse

[kindred talon]

just have gale summon them a few bleachers and they can watch.

[jaunty basin]

half the time the narrative flat out says your whole team is fighting stuff and then in gameplay you're still only controlling your "party"

which imo is fine

[kindred talon]

Karlatch can provide commentary

[jaunty basin]

actually, in Paper Mario aren't the others literally in the audience throwing items to help you?

[kindred talon]

"OH, HE'LL FEEL THAT IN THE MORNIN'. You know, if he wasn't dead."

"Damn Gale, those were just kids!"

[quick bobcat]

What do you mean by exist in your pocket?

[jaunty basin]

maybe my mental image of an RPG is still clouded by FF7 or something, but

iirc the game would usually only render 1-3 of the characters in your team at any given time

and whenever one of the others needed to do stuff they'd just start getting rendered again

[quick bobcat]

yeah that's.. not how BG3 works

[jaunty basin]

fair

[quick bobcat]

I don't see an obvious way that would just 'work' for BG3 to allow you to have all companions in dialogs

[heavy hound]

You can most of the time divine what party members you should bring at a certain location to get most out of it at least

[jaunty basin]

so what are non-party members up to in BG3?

[quick bobcat]

it just wouldn't really make any sense in the context of the game

[quick bobcat]

they sit at your camp and do nothing basically

[jaunty basin]

lol

[quick bobcat]

until you decide to swap out one of your companions for them

also when you long rest they get like extra character development and dialogs and stuff

one night, ||Lae'zel tried to kill my Shadowheart, then I got them to make up and then Shadowheart tried to kill Lae'zel||

safe to say they're not the best of friends

[heavy hound]

||She tried to kill me once||, Lae'zel tends to be a problem

[quick bobcat]

Oh yeah, that too

[quick bobcat]

spoilers: act 2
he deserved it. Fuck him

that was all of my smokepowder and runepowder (8 normal bombs and 1 runepowder bomb)

[sweet moat]

Lae'zel is my least favorite companion by far. Her story is generic, her personality makes a rock look like Jesus, she has no sense of humor, she's racist, mind-bogglingly dumb, fanatical, smug, and self-righteous. She is not a good person, and not someone I would even remotely hang out with.

[quick bobcat]

from what I've heard she gets a lot better and her story is one of the best later on

can't confirm or deny though, I don't have her in my party either

[sweet moat]

She's like that one player in a campaign who insists on being purely evil and "pragmatic" without being smart, while insisting that everyone else is stupid and that they should play their way because they're clearly superior.

[glossy palm]

Minor mod but this probably will be a godsend for some

https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/781

Really hope they add this as an official update

[sweet moat]

Mouse movement for life.

Also, Larian has added mods to their games as official content before, I'm sure it'll come eventually.

[night oracle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGcHyn6PycI Another!

[heavy hound]

She is a gem

[night oracle]

I need to listen to 1 and 2

**"If you pay very close attention to Act 1, you will see that it's actually a very long tutorial,"** Vincke said. "Systems are being shown to you. The AI shows you a lot of things, and makes you realize [how they work], maybe sometimes subconsciously, but you figure things out. You discover increasingly sophisticated challenges, where you will always find a way, because there's always multiple solutions, anyway. But you might discover and stumble upon something that's possible, and from now on, it becomes part of the arsenal that you can use to play the game."

https://twitter.com/outstarwalker/status/1691197449522597888

outstar 🧛🏻 "professional vampire simp" on Twitter

I have reached peak Astarion #BaldursGate3

Twitter · Aug 14, 2023, 9:17 PM

[quick bobcat]

someone who has finished act 2, pls tell me ||what will change when I sacrifice the selunite to shar? in the least spoilery way|| I just got the popup for it and I don't wanna miss anything

[heavy hound]

It's hard to not give spoilers

It's like, a massive decision

[quick bobcat]

so a lot of things will change?

[heavy hound]

I managed to ||avoid doing that, but it's hard if Shadowheart is in your party and if she isn't I feel like she'll leave it||

[quick bobcat]

okay, what if I put it this way: what should I do before doing that

[heavy hound]

I would do it when you are ready to assault the towers.

[quick bobcat]

well I've explored the whole map I think and did everything except the moonrise towers

I haven't even approached them yet. Does that count as assaulting them?

[heavy hound]

I might be wrong but I think there are quests inside the towers if you infiltrate them instead of going there ready to murder everybody:
I'm sure if you ||don't kill the Selunite it will start the murder everybody phase||

I'm not sure what happens if you ||sacrifice her||

Since I didn't

But it might start a similar process for all I know

[quick bobcat]

guess I'll go visit the creche for now since I haven't done that yet

[desert dove]

Supposedly she's much more interesting if you choose to play as her.

[desert dove]

Yeah, my plan is to explore the Underdark, then visit the Creche, then move on to Act II.

[sweet moat]

Well, yeah, because then you can actually give her a personality.

[kindred talon]

so

I want to state this again because I think it got lost: I'm pretty sure the text around the bridge that leds to the creche is just wrong. Like that's not the text it's supposed to have.

it's possible, even likely, that they originally intended it to be the transition from act 1 to act 2 but changed their minds

[sweet moat]

Well, it's a transition between the transition from Act 1 to Act 2.

[eternal hawk]

There's a lot of fun party banter around Lae'zel, and you can heavily influence her.

[sweet moat]

Because it does lead to the Act 2 area.

[heavy hound]

Both the Shadow place and the mountain pass are act 2 areas

[quick bobcat]

As far as I know you can't visit the creche in act 1

[kindred talon]

so does the underdark but not like this. You can access the mountain pass map through the goblin camp and it actually has a different warning about changing maps

[heavy hound]

In the underdark you may not be getting the same warning because you already proceeded to act 2 through the mountain pass?

I might be wrong tho

[desert dove]

Nah, Underdark doesn't give you a warning at all. At least, not the bit I've explored.

[sweet moat]

Well, it technically does, but that's probably a little bit ahead of you.

Also, while exploring the underdark, don't forget: you can jump onto the big red and/or blue mushroom caps. I've found a couple hidden spots this way.

Including one that is veeeeeery tucked away, where you might miss it entirely.

[kindred talon]

you get the warning when you go into the dark part from ||the gyrmforge||

it's the same warning you get at the mountain pass except it really does appear to advance the story

[sweet moat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SrDXjsol2U

Pretty cool!

Ooooooh, I just had an idea...what if Larian could, as a future update, ask the Critical Role crew to briefly reprise their roles as Vox Machina and the Mighty Nein as hirelings, and you can have them as potential party members? They'd have no quests or storylines, but they'd have exclusive voice lines, party banters, humor, etc.

[night oracle]

...Well. THat's one way to start the underdark.

[sweet moat]

Ah, I know exactly where you are.

[night oracle]

That fight wasn't too bad, just hit like a fucking truck

And then there's this fucker

[sweet moat]

...I actually still need to fight it, now that I think about it.

I completely forgot.

[night oracle]

DAMNIT KARLACH STOP BEING SO ADORABLE

[sweet moat]

Funny enough, she said the exact same thing for me too, since she was the only one for me who could get up there (until I figured out other ways).

[night oracle]

[kindred talon]

man

I sort of get why, but there feels like there's so much good heavy/med armor and absolutely crumbs for light/cloth

like I'm at the ||Lastlight inn|| and I run into one of the tiefling guys again and I give him (????) something and he makes me an armor. Heavy. Looks cool. Blue.

like, okay that's great man but what about some kick ass cloth?

I feel like a lot of it boils down to there's this sort of romanticism around forging that just doesn't exist for weaving.

Like, we all know who's the smithing god of greek mythology but we'd have a harder time naming who's associated with weaving (it's Athena)

[sweet moat]

The problem is that the only character who can wear heavy armor in your party is a terrible person to be around with. It's either her or Karlach as the only choices for a frontline tank/damage-dealer, and frankly, Karlach is better.

Well, unless you turn Shadowheart into a tank healer, which is what I did (22 AC! :D). But even then, medium armor is all she can manage, and she can't really hit things very well.

We really, really needed a paladin to round out the team.

[kindred talon]

well. I lost the game somehow

[glass veldt]

Dammit, now we all lost the game

[kindred talon]

Fuck you marcus

[kindred talon]

I'm surprised there's not achievement for saving everyone ||at the inn, considering how hard it was.|| It took me 4 tries.

||It turns out marcus isn't exactly socrates so it was easy to banish him||

[sweet moat]

How are you guys having such a hard time with that fight? I breezed past it, and I was at level 6. Saved everyone ||in the inn|| on my first try.

[quick bobcat]

honestly I thought it was scripted and unavoidable at first

[exotic pelican]

|| If the cleric you have to protect gets knocked out she immediately gets kidnapped and the fight is over. At least that's what happened to me on the first try. ||

[quick bobcat]

yeah, which is why I thought it was scripted and didn't bother with her

ended up having to ||murder the entire population of the inn||

[exotic pelican]

Yeah it happens real fast too. Like on turn two for me.

[quick bobcat]

yup

I just rolled with it cuz whatever

she is also really dumb and just wants to get killed

literally runs into the enemies

like bitch, I have spirit guardian on my cleric and a whole bunch of party members around you to protect you and stuff, why THE FUCK are you running straight towards the enemies?

[night oracle]

All these spoiler tags and meanwhile I'm still in act 1

[heavy hound]

It really depends how well you roll initiative and as such, if you have characters with good dex / the alert feat

Also yeah, she is dumb as a rock

The most effective strategy if you have it, is probably to use a cleric to use the spell that give them resistence to all damage but you split damage with them

[desert dove]

I was so busy poking around for treasure, the ||minotaur|| spawned before I even opened the gate, so the magic turrets killed it for me.

[desert dove]

If you respec her into War Domain, she gets Heavy Armor and Martial Weapons proficiencies.

[quick bobcat]

clerics get heavy armor proficiency on the Life, War, Nature and Tempest domains iirc

correction: nature doesn't get it

I respecced my shadowheart into a life domain cleric and she's now rocking the heavy adamantine armor

[heavy hound]

I'm pretty sure nature does get it, I didn't remember Life did tho

[quick bobcat]

I don't see heavy armor proficiency here

[desert dove]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Nature tops out at Medium, because the concept is to be wearing stuff similar to a Druid.

[desert dove]

That I agree with, a Pally would've been a great option for a companion, especially if they could avoid making them Lawful Stupid.

[quick bobcat]

are paladins always lawful stupid?

[quick bobcat]

oh

[heavy hound]

I was pretty certain about it since I played this on tabletop

I play a lot of clerics

[quick bobcat]

why the heck did they do nature different from the others on the wiki

all the other subclasses state the heavy armor proficiency in the progression section

[desert dove]

Huh. TIL.

[desert dove]

The wiki is really poorly formatted & most of the info is from Early Access still.

[quick bobcat]

it is, yeah

a lot of the act 2 and later stuff just isn't accurate or is completely empty

[heavy hound]

Fextralife has always prioritised getting stuff out as fast as possible, and it takes forever to actually correct the mistakes it has, it's a really bad wiki

It had disinfo about Elden Ring on it for like, 10 months after release

[desert dove]

Oof

Hate to say it, ,but it almost makes me wish for a Fandom wiki.

[night oracle]

That's what happened to me too! I was on the other side of the gates so he walked up and got zapped

[desert dove]

I've read a few posts where people got a little too excited about being in the Underdark, got outside the gate, and he rocked their world.

[night oracle]

And i wandered towards the two other ||turrets but they seem to be respawning after I kill them.... so there must be a trick I'm missing||

I went through by the passage in the Priestess' chambers. First met the ||Observer|| and then some other ||lizardlike creature|| i forget the name of. First hit like a truck but went down easily enough, second as well. Lots of stunning

[exotic pelican]

If you want a half spoiler hint about those turrets || they are arcane which means they run on magic ||

[night oracle]

I do mean the ones ||away from the gate. The yellow pop up ones||

[quick bobcat]

You mean the arcane tower?

[quick bobcat]

https://youtu.be/nGZapA8Am8E

[quick bobcat]

what's "attack"?

[exotic pelican]

Attack roll. Your chance to hit.

[desert dove]

yeah, it's just a flat bonus to any melee or ranged attack.

That should also include spell attacks (not spell saves, but things like eldritch blast where you have to make an attack roll).

Also, that's the second item I've seen in-game that just sets your stat to 18.

[heavy hound]

I've seen 3 items that do something similar
||Warped Band of intellect that sets int to 17||
||A club that sets your Str to 15||
And that one

[night oracle]

https://twitter.com/jessevitelli/status/1690015283342159872?s=20

Young Elmo (@jessevitelli)

My gnome can't even kiss my love because he's too short. This is the kissing animation

This is NOT Short King Summer

Twitter · Aug 11, 2023, 3:00 PM

[glossy palm]

Big patch incoming https://twitter.com/LarAtLarian/status/1691479778488909827

Swen Vincke @where? (@LarAtLarian)

We're all very enthused by your feedback. It's very rewarding. Our focus now is fixing any issues you report, but we are listening to suggestions. Current roadmap: a) Hotfix 4, b) Patch 1 (+1000 fixes and tweaks), c) Patch 2. The latter will already incorporate some requests.

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Twitter · Aug 15, 2023, 3:59 PM

Also modder tools will be added

[heavy hound]

Act 3 is kinda rough at the moment, encountered a few broken npcs

Which makes sense, I assume the bulk of the bugfixing was focused on the part that most players were playing and reporting bugs on

[eternal hawk]

Wonder if they'll fix any of the rule oddities or keep them as homebrew.

[sweet moat]

It'll likely remain homebrew, since some things that work in the tabletop version just won't work in BG3.

[heavy hound]

The differences between the tabletop ruleset seem very deliberate, yeah

Most of them at least

Also I did test the spirit guardians doing damage multiple time and it doesn't seem to be the case, if you run out and come back in they lose and gain the status "spirit guardians" since they are in range, but if they already took damage during your turn they don't take damage again.

They do take damage once they start their turn tho

[kindred talon]

Because it was genuinely difficult to lay in enough damage unless you're prepared for it? the first time I had no idea I was advancing the story I thought she was just a random npc and it wasn't until I deliberately took a short rest that I was able to save her

[jaunty basin]

out of curiosity, what are some of these differences?

[desert dove]

https://twitter.com/larianstudios/status/1691871479946719417

Larian Studios (@larianstudios)

PS5 players, prepare for adventure.

Pre-loads for @baldursgate3 begin August 31st for Digital Deluxe Edition owners.

Not Pre-Ordered? There's still time: https://t.co/XPEHAxzByn

Twitter · Aug 16, 2023, 5:56 PM

[weak cedar]

PS5 version

Jinx

[desert dove]

I accidentally deleted the middle part of the tweet link instead of the end, so I had to edit it.

[weak cedar]

Ah.

[heavy hound]

A bunch of them
To make a couple of example even tho IDK if they will mean much to you.

In tabletop you can only cast one spell per turn, or a cantrip andf a spell (cantrip being level 0 weaker spells you can use without limitations)
So if you have two actions for whatever reason, or want to cast 2 spells, one of which would use a bonus action, you wouldn't be able to.

Here you can

Another thing is that normally is much more complicated to use crossbows, you have to have a hand free to reload them, so you can't dualweild them, or rather, you could but you can shoot them only once

To cast spells that have a somatic component you need a hand free, or a feat that allows you to ignore that, in BG3 they did away with it

Plus there is a grappling system that is absent (aside from the shove) in BG3

[desert dove]

Subtle Spell, a Metamagic for Sorcerers, allows you to cast a spell while Silenced in BG3. In tabletop, it can do that, but is often used to let you cast a spell without those around you knowing you're doing it.

[heavy hound]

And you can't "Dodge" which is an action that allows you to impose disadvantage at the attackers.
Which is kind of funny they removed it since the players get so powerful that I really don't think it'd have changed the combat much IMO

[jaunty basin]

are these restrictions in the tabletop game just to reduce how much mechnically complicated stuff could possibly get thrown out in a single turn?

[desert dove]

Yeah, it's a balance thing

[heavy hound]

Some are balance, some are added complexity, some are just variety

[desert dove]

Especially since spellcasting gets really OP at higher levels. Like, exponential curve powerful.

[heavy hound]

From that aspect, the tabletop is more complicated, but not in a way that can be easly simulated in the game I feel

Or rather, it could be simulated but in a way that becomes tedious to manage for the videogame

Like a spellcaster that has a two handed weapon, as long as they don't attack with it that turn, can cast a spell saying they keep their weapon with one hand
The weapon is two handed only when it's effectively used as a weapon.

In the videogame it becomes difficult to manage, like, you'd cast the spell and go "why can't I attack? This is confusing" if it was handled automatically, or you'd have to click a toggle that disable your weapon for a turn, it'd add complexity without really adding much to the game

In the tabletop it's fun to manage since you are playing a single character, here you manage multiple.
And if it's not fun you probably homebrew it away anyway

[desert dove]

Yeah, some of this stuff you can handwave in tabletop, but isn't easy to automate. In the same vein, some stuff is much easier to automate (skill check modifiers for darkness/spell effects/etc.) than it is in tabletop.

Oh, also: the biggest difference I've noticed is less of a rules change & more of a "computers vs. people" thing.

And that's % chance to hit with an attack. Normally in tabletop, you just plain don't know.

[heavy hound]

I still wish there was a roll behind the curtain on your knowledge skills the first time you meet an enemy

And that'd decide how much it tells you about the enemy with examine

And if you don't know enough to know it's AC, well, you don't know the %

It's not that way to be clear, as long as you click examine you know everything you can know

But I wish they did it that way

[desert dove]

Eh. As a tabletop player, that sounds cool. But from a game UI perspective, I'd rather have the % laid right out for players, especially the ones who have no D&D experience.

[heavy hound]

Yeah it's a minor gripe

They did a decent job with making the knowledge skills useful in dialogue at least, int is still the easy best dump stat tho

[jaunty basin]

yeah in a tabletop setting you can rely on the DM to fudge around "obviously broken" stuff, while a video game you're always going to end up having to "debug" something (if only in the sense of figuring out which mechanic you forgot about) without any other humans who can help, so we're always going to want at least the option of very explicit numbers in a crunchy video game

[quick bobcat]

why does this keep happening to me
this time I was forced to ||murder the entire githyanki creche. Hopefully lae'zel won't be too angry about that ||

[jaunty basin]

the game really wants you to work for that max difficulty achievement

[quick bobcat]

I keep making the wrong choices

[sweet moat]

Well, that one is relatively unavoidable.

[sweet moat]

It caught me by surprise too, but the easiest way to win is to have someone pick off the winged horror outside, then have everyone else attack any other horrors inside the room. Marcus will likely focus on whoever is attacking him, so as long as you hold his attention and are focusing mostly on the horrors, it becomes a very simple fight. The Harpers can hold off the rest of the attackers throughout the place well enough on their own, they've got warriors and high-ground archers aplenty.

The only enemies you need to focus on are the three horrors near the cleric, who are very easy to kill since they're level 3 and don't have much AC, and Marcus, who's juat one singular target that you can tank for a bit until the horrors are gone.

For reference: my team was my main rogue character (dual-wielding and with the assassin background), Karlach (my damage soaker and damage dealer), Wyll (my main apellcaster), and Shadowheart (my tank and main enemy distraction).

[kindred talon]

Marcus single mindedly focused on the cleric

regardless of who hit him

[quick bobcat]

I feel like ||giving them the relic could possibly help avoid having to slaughter all of them ||

[sweet moat]

Well, he didn't for me. He focused solely on my rogue, leaving the cleric alone (though she did get hit a bit).

[sweet moat]

[heavy hound]

I don't know what the possible outcomes are, but I wonder.

[desert dove]

Oh, and I think today's the last day for the Twitch drop clothing

https://baldursgate3.game/news/announcing-baldur-s-gate-3-twitch-drops_74

[quick bobcat]

yo

[weak cedar]

https://twitter.com/baldursgate3/status/1691899315675939184?

Baldur's Gate 3 (@baldursgate3)

Hotfix #4 is now live for Baldur’s Gate 3.

This hotfix takes care of several bugs, blockers and crashes. Also, we threw cold water over your sleeping companions so they wake up from their Long Rests. Rise and shine, sleepyheads!

Read More: https://t.co/GSmeKyqlx5

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Twitter · Aug 16, 2023, 7:46 PM

[polar seal]

Man. I hadn't seen anyone play BG3 with a controller yet. The UI is very different. They really went through the effort of designing a whole new thing specifically for controllers

Like, they didn't go the lazy route of just having a virtual cursor. No, they actually rearranged and rethought every little interaction and menu

[sweet moat]

Duuuuuuuude. That's so cool!

[desert dove]

https://www.pcgamer.com/baldurs-gate-3-review/

97 /100

[tame thistle]

Idk if i can wait to play this till i get a pc...

[night oracle]

That's a better wording. "Pinnacle", rather than standard (it should be standard yes, but)

[tame thistle]

I wonder how the controls feel on controller

[quick bobcat]

free strength, I won't say no

will go perfectly for my cleric

[sweet moat]

I still like D:OS 2 better so far, but that's a well-earned score. BG3 is amazing, even if I do have the occasional gripe here and there.

[heavy hound]

There is definitely some space to improve on the QOL department

And in the UI department

Some things that would be minor annoyances in other games are magnified by the fact that the game is more than 100 hours, and it gets really annoying to deal with them (mainly inventory managment) for that lenght of time

That said, it's a great game nonetheless

I am clearing up act 3, I think I see what my path to finishing the game it is, but there are so many options and permutation on how, nevermind a bunch of places and secondary quests that I want to get to before closing it.

Basically all I did today was a secondaty quest that isn't even tied to the main conflict at all and that was a good 3 hours by itself

[sweet moat]

The best kind of side quest, imo.

Especially if you're that invested in it.

[sweet moat]

Man, the rejection option for ||Wyll's dance scene is heartbreaking. It's not even a good rejection either, it's a blunt and, well, forced one. All you say is "I'm not interested" and then "Let's just call it a day." Like, no, that's so ice cold, that's not how I feel at all! He walks away trying and almost failing to hold back tears. I'm so so sorry Wyll...I see you more as a brother-in-arms and best friend than I do a lover...||

I wish there were better options to let your companions know that you aren't interested in that kind of relationship with them without having to completely shatter each and every one of them.

[kindred talon]

you too huh

I ||danced with wyll and now gale is mad at me and doesn't want to share. This harem anime is awful||

[sweet moat]

How is ||a dance supposed to mean "officially a couple"?||

[kindred talon]

have you never watched a nature video?

everyone knows the dance is how you attract a mate

<insert dancing spider gif here>

[sweet moat]

Oh f*ck a duck.

@quick bobcat I found the tollhouse lady.

[sweet moat]

I beat her, but DAMN she kicked my ass so hard my game nearly crashed three times. Methinks that fight is bugged beyond belief and needs immediate patching.

[heavy hound]

What kind of bugs?

She was annoying but I don't think I met any bugs

That I can recall at least

[sweet moat]

The entire screen blacked out, then there were flat textures all over, the lady herself was only legs, and lots of flickering. It always happened when she summoned that golden halberd. There was also looooooots of severe lag. When it switched back to me though, it all smoothed out again and was back to nromal almost instantly.

[heavy hound]

weeird

[kindred talon]

nah man that's just what the fight is supposed to be. Lady Legs and the Reality Crash

Roll for sanity

[sweet moat]

I think everyone in this town rolled a natural 1 on sanity.

[kindred talon]

wtf did I walk into

'damage based on how much gold you carry' really?

[exotic pelican]

Looks like they did some kind of hotfix rollback. One of my save files from like 7 hours ago is incompatible and won't load.

I didn't lose much time though.

[heavy hound]

Hope they redeploy before I get home this evening, pretty sure I did a big fight on it and I don't want to redo it

[kindred talon]

I have successfully defeated capitalism. you're welcome

[quick bobcat]

I just ||cheesed her by convincing her to kill herself||, like all the rest of the bosses there

[heavy hound]

The fight wasn't very difficult once you ||send to camp all your gold to not be deleted instantly||

[quick bobcat]

Also you wanna ||sneak around and pick up all the gold on the floor because it turns into enemies at the start of the fight||

Or you can just, y'know, ||convince her to die... because it's sooo much easier..||

[heavy hound]

I didn't even know you could, probably what was required for it wasn't something my character would have said

[night oracle]

https://twitter.com/larianstudios/status/1691942888962441352

Larian Studios (@larianstudios)

Due to a build error causing new crashes, we’ve rolled back Hotfix 4 for the time being. We'll re-release it as soon as we’ve fixed the cause.

If you’ve saved since updating, you won’t be able to load those saves until we’ve re-published Hotfix 4. Sorry about the inconvenience.

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[quick bobcat]

fuck

noooooooooooooooo

my last 10 saves don't work now

I just checked

what do I do now

[night oracle]

Do it again and make the perfect choices

[quick bobcat]

I did a load of stuff, I don't wanna redo all of it

[exotic pelican]

It looks like you just have to wait for them to put the patch back in.

[quick bobcat]

yup

good thing I'm working rn, I really hope the patch comes back by the time I'm done

or I'll have to do the unthinkable

play something e l s e

for the first time in weeks

[night oracle]

Time to check what my own save status is...

||I'd just entered the underdark so potentially my two recent big battles ||

I went right in. I didn't play yesterday because of a WOW raid, i guess I'm safe

[night oracle]

https://vxtwitter.com/BruceTresat/status/1691004375190118401

What the fuck

[quick bobcat]

is this the classic 'barrelmancy' build from DOS2?

technically the strongest build possible

[exotic pelican]

And you can abuse the camp mechanic to do that. So you don't have to carry barrels with you.

[quick bobcat]

I attempted a barrelmancy honor mode run in DOS2, almost did it too

it does get really annoying when you have to literally drag your chest with you all the time though

[heavy hound]

Seems like wont be long, I'll probably play something else until it's out: https://twitter.com/larianstudios/status/1692158962437640530

Larian Studios (@larianstudios)

We have a candidate for a build, which is going through rigorous internal testing before it’s released. If all goes well, we aim to release Hotfix 4 by the end of the day, EU. We’ll let you know if and when anything changes.

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Twitter · Aug 17, 2023, 12:58 PM

[night oracle]

FF14!

[heavy hound]

Probably

[quick bobcat]

I got off work and it's still not fixed

What am I supposed to do

[weak cedar]

https://twitter.com/baldursgate3/status/1692207819460686302? Patch is out now

Baldur's Gate 3 (@baldursgate3)

We're redeploying Hotfix #4, and changing the way we deploy future patches.

Read more: https://t.co/wzxtU3LrBp

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Twitter · Aug 17, 2023, 4:12 PM

[quick bobcat]

Oh thank Celestia

I can go back to playing instead of just lying in bed

Thanks for letting me know

[weak cedar]

No problem Merc

[jaunty basin]

I was hoping for a little more detail on the "compiler corruption"

[quick bobcat]

oh come on, Gale ||got so upset that I chose Shadowheart||, why must the game be like this

[kindred talon]

Gale: I don't want to share
Also gale: so anyway my girlfriend is the goddess of magic

[clear yarrow]

I'm hoping that a poly mod will materialize before I have to actually pick

[desert dove]

I could be wrong, but I read somewhere that certain companians are fine with you romacing others as well as themselves.

[night oracle]

Speaking of, there's not only a any% speedrun, there's a speedrun for how fast you can bed someone in BG3

And it's 8 minutes

[glossy palm]

https://www.pcgamer.com/we-owe-them-a-huge-debt-baldurs-gate-3-lead-writer-hopes-they-did-90s-bioware-proud/

[sweet moat]

Karlach doesn't care, and neither does Shadowheart, iirc. Not sure about the rest.

[desert dove]

Lae'zel definitely got pissy when I accidentally talked with Gale first and promised to spend some time with him.

[glass veldt]

Heh, nice.

[quick bobcat]

well... shit. I'm at a very important moment in the story, but Gale died and resurrecting him bugged out

he just... didn't resurrect

[night oracle]

Unless you wanna reload, you can spend money at your camp to revive him

[quick bobcat]

That is what I did

I don't have any more revivify scrolls

withers did his thing.. and then nothing happened

and I haven't saved in like 30 mins

[heavy hound]

This has been my experience

#1136698160698376203 message

[desert dove]

Oooh, awesome.

Probably not relevant for must of us this far in, but a nice summary of character creation:
https://youtu.be/Nxr-KiVzRww

[quick bobcat]

Oh god... poor Wyll, if you ||let Zariel's 'asset' die then he just gets melted on the spot and you can't revive him... He just disappears from the party ||

[sweet moat]

...Good to know for the future...

[quick bobcat]

daaaaamn, but if you manage to ||persuade Mizora to give you something for your trouble then you get an INSANE sword that uses your charisma as attack modifier and also lets you summon this handsome fella 👀 ||

and hooooooooooly shit he is strong

[sweet moat]

[kindred talon]

This cut scene is so important and so messed up lol

I had to fight ||a child so I could glue him and another child back together: I managed to recruit Halsin as a companion for at least that quest, and I had wildshaped him into a saber tooth tiger... so the cut scene happens and Halsin is 90% of the screen with the camera awkwardly jammed up his face. lol||

[heavy hound]

Yes, that happened to me as well

[kindred talon]

bit disappointing, truth be told, but oh well

[quick bobcat]

Ooh level 10 is quite the power spike isn't it

[sweet moat]

[quick bobcat]

My cantrips increased in power

[sweet moat]

Well, it also depends on which class you have.

Wizard?

[quick bobcat]

All of them

On all classes

[sweet moat]

Ah

[quick bobcat]

Are you on act 3 yet GT?

I feel like I'm pretty close

[sweet moat]

Nah, not even close.

[heavy hound]

Yeah the cantrips increase on 5 and on 10 IIRC

[sweet moat]

I only just started to explore the town in Act 2.

Also, is it just me, or are there waaaaaaaay more songs in the actual game than there are in the Digital Deluxe soundtrack? There are several songs I've heard in the game that are simply not in there.

Combat songs, pretty much all of Act 2, and even some Act 1 songs.

JESUS F*CK I KNEW IT.

[tame thistle]

Thats a lot of soundtrack

[sweet moat]

We barely get 2 and a half hours from the digital deluxe soundtrack

That's just the highlight reel

The full thing is soooooooo much more!

According to the guy who uploaded all of this, the uncompressed music files are a whopping 12.4 GB.

[tame thistle]

Damn

[quick bobcat]

it's the same with DOS2

a ton of songs aren't officially uploaded

well that took for-fucking-ever to figure out
(spoilers for a puzzle late in act 2)

Well that was a giant waste of time

[kindred talon]

what the absolute fuck just happened

I went back to my camp and everyone attacked wyll

wtf

[kindred talon]

well... that happened. whatever the hell that was

[heavy hound]

Did he has some effect that made him hostile? Like a charm on him, ||or maybe he was in the shadow curse for a while until he became hostile (IDK if that's a thing, but it sounds like a thing)||

Or maybe you did something while you were out that made him hostile to you? if he wasn't in your party

Some choices can make your party members want to kill you

[kindred talon]

I have no idea

like it wasn't a cut scene kill either, they just randomly ran up and started killing him. Then I rezed him, and they did nothing... until a few minutes later they decided to go after him again

||I think the kid might have been triggering something||

this whole play session was one wild event after another

it started with Wyll getting killed, but then:
||I figure maybe the kid is doing something to trigger things because they seemed upset after I told them their parents were dead. So I go to talk to them and A) suddenly their magical power has transfered to me (???) and Withers is telling the kid they have to go get out and learn how to use their magic (Withers has a character arc now?? He bonded with the kid???) so I convince them to do so. Then I'm exploring Moonrise towers and an orge tells me about Da Meat. I poke about, can't find it, so I google it because it was annoying and they're like 'there's a ladder!' and so there was... I stick my arm in this hole, fail a ability check, and end up in some sort of mindflayer tomb soup? I navigate my way out of it... only to find myself in prison. But not in prison, behind the prison. I blow up some walls because I thought it might lead somewhere and it really just released a bunch of gnomes and then tieflings... and that's when the Warren attacked.||

Anyway I murdered everyone and I really hope this doesn't fuck up the story

Oh and I ||walked into a twilight fan fic, which was weird||

[jaunty basin]

.addquote @kindred talon Anyway I murdered everyone and I really hope this doesn't fuck up the story

[acoustic acorn]

Added quote #14 to Oaf Loaf:

Anyway I murdered everyone and I really hope this doesn't fuck up the story

[quick bobcat]

this seems to be a common theme in the game, because similar situations happened to me

seems like you have to put in a lot of effort NOT to murder everyone in this game

[jaunty basin]

hm, didn't the original Baldur's Gate story also have a lot of "everyone else keeps trying to kill me first, I swear I had no choice" going on?

[quick bobcat]

I dunno, I never played 1 and 2

[jaunty basin]

I watched a video synopsis of 1 once

come to think of it, 1 also had a ||surprise fight with NPCs to defend that is super hard if you don't target the right enemies first, although I think that one was just a game over if the NPCs die?||

[quick bobcat]

I was doing pretty well in act 1, but come act 2 and literally ALL the possible friendly npcs are dead because I kept messing up and doing the wrong thing every time

and I messed up so many quests because of it

[night oracle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWvXRM3xGlo betrayal does seem to be a common reoccurence in bg

[night oracle]

||Gekh Coal.|| Ow. Hurts like a bitch.

[desert dove]

https://youtu.be/p0IEWGVNJ0E

Shylily tries to romance the companions, aaaaaand... it does not go well for her. (Surprisingly SFW, just some swearing.)

[night oracle]

That poor desk

[desert dove]

Astarion: "It's not you, it's me. I have standards."

[jaunty basin]

ok this I have to see

[quick bobcat]

damn astarion is brutal

[night oracle]

So do gems like rubies and agates and whatnot have a use in further chapters, or is it vendor bait?

[desert dove]

Honestly not sure yet. There are certain high level spells in D&D that require gemstones as material components, which get consumed on casting. But I don't think BG3 includes that mechanic.

[night oracle]

I swear, shadowheart's firebolt misses like 90% of the time

||MIMICS||

[desert dove]

Her default build is bad for ranged spellcasting.

[quick bobcat]

shadowheart's firebolt scales off of int

and not wis

so keep that in mind

[weak cedar]

What level are you now masque?

[desert dove]

I've barely played this week, so the same.

[weak cedar]

Ah.

Is the XP level amount high?

[jaunty basin]

what is it with half of the rejections being "I'm sure literally every other character wants to bang you, but not me, I'm good, kthxbye"

[night oracle]

Shylily the Rizzless

[desert dove]

Welp, got TPKed by the ||duergar ambush|| because I tried to talk to them after spotting them.

[night oracle]

I killed them but they hurt. ||level 7, OW.||

[desert dove]

I'm level 5. Managed to beat them, but Karlach's gonna need a rez.

[exotic pelican]

Are you using Bear Heart rage for Karlach?

[desert dove]

Yup. She's just my main tank right now, so she took ALL the hits.

[exotic pelican]

Nice. But for most of my gameplay enemies that are smart always went after Gale first. He tanked a lot of hits. I finally found some magic armor he can wear now the enemies spread out their attacks more.

[weak cedar]

Just pre ordered the PS5 version

I’m going to be a warlock masque.

[desert dove]

Gale took an initial hit, then I moved him out of line of sight. Had him start poking out and hitting the archer that was shooting the crap out of my ranger.

[desert dove]

Awesome! Have fun with that.

[weak cedar]

I watched some gameplay of it. What is the hardest class to use?

[desert dove]

Probably Wizard. They are squishy and it takes a lot of care to select the right spells.