Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer | Manechat | Page 62

midnight depot Mar 15, 2025, 1:20 AM

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Golden Sun is in BK mode

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[Hint]: FlitterGS's Sand is at Rancid_Egg-Waterways_West_Bluggsac in octyKnight's World. (not found)
[Hint]: FlitterGS's Parch is at 4-3 Dexters Island Monkey 7 - Frederic in FlitterAE's World. (not found)
[Hint]: FlitterGS's Whirlwind is at ET: Scan Cave Shard Signal in dr rOWmulus's World. (not found)
[Hint]: FlitterGS's Lash Pebble is at NO4 - Toadstool(26) in Dessy-SOTN's World. (not found)
I need the following items

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Ape Escape needs:
[Hint]: FlitterAE's Sky Flyer is at Intro Stage - Defeated Bee Blader #2 in ryanmmx's World. (not found)
[Hint]: FlitterAE's World Key is at Defeated Velguarder in ryanmmx's World. (not found)
[Hint]: FlitterAE's World Key is at AP-6-008 in octyFactory's World. (not found)

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And OoT needs [Hint]: FlitterOoT's Iron Boots is at EotE: Symbol Room Temple Code in Dessy-OW's World. (not found)
[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Zeldas Lullaby is at Secret Gathering Place - Holy Cross Chest in LlisandurFox's World. (not found)
[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Kokiri Sword is at Energy Tank, Ridley in Dessy-SMZ3's World. (not found)

midnight depot Mar 15, 2025, 2:21 AM

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#1055515261270241320 message
Another Golden Sun apworld update. I think I'm the only person playing that game

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Fixes the logic bug I talked about earlier, implements an option to shuffle djinn among the same element (makes builds easier), and gives more descriptive location names for djinn (which must be locally shuffled between each other for now)

weary lagoon Mar 15, 2025, 8:14 AM

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oh wow you're dark blue now

midnight depot Mar 15, 2025, 8:28 AM

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That's your special attack

midnight depot Mar 15, 2025, 8:02 PM

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Hi. We're at the halfway point. Y'all doing fine so far?

weary lagoon Mar 15, 2025, 9:05 PM

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I have short games so im waiting a lot

midnight depot Mar 16, 2025, 6:56 PM

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Insane person on the OoT thread https://i.imgur.com/qo6TFAD.png

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weary lagoon Mar 16, 2025, 7:56 PM

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yeah hes playing Kirby in AP

rare oxide Mar 16, 2025, 8:47 PM

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@tender pelican [Hint]: ryanmmx’s Armored Armadillo Access Codes is at Fairy in LlisandurFF1’s World. (not found)

dawn wigeon Mar 17, 2025, 12:14 AM

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@proven holly what do you need to get Egg_Shop_8?

proven holly Mar 17, 2025, 12:15 AM

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I think it was more Essense, like 2400? and last I had was 2100, so one or two more boss essense finds

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I can try to hint one next time

midnight depot Mar 17, 2025, 12:19 AM

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smh not going through the sewers all day long for the 0.5% chance to get 1 per enemy

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With dream wielder, you need to kill roughly 59,934-68,331 enemies to get 300 more essence (50% to 99% range)

proven holly Mar 17, 2025, 12:24 AM

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end up like skurry in this video https://youtu.be/UGPOg94J8UU

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Skurry

The 45 Hour Hollow Knight Speedrun Got Even Worse

Low% True Ending in Hollow Knight is one of the most cursed speedrun categories ever conceived. It involves killing countless enemies in order to obtain a currency from an rng drop that is normally gotten from bosses to unlock the true final boss. This takes over 40 hours.

After completing a run a couple years back, I never thought I'd return ...

▶ Play video

dawn wigeon Mar 17, 2025, 12:28 AM

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I set up a cheese tracker, use it or don't: https://cheesetrackers.theincrediblewheelofchee.se/tracker/H1YB-1_sSqS17_9fmlOjJQ

midnight depot Mar 17, 2025, 12:28 AM

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Hell yeah

dawn wigeon Mar 17, 2025, 12:30 AM

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Had so many trash hinted items for SOTN

cold valve Mar 17, 2025, 12:51 AM

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neat

tender pelican Mar 17, 2025, 3:16 PM

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Went and got 112 checks in Tunic. I need the magic orb or the mask to get any more.

weary lagoon Mar 17, 2025, 3:25 PM

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one hundred and twelve discordshocked

tender pelican Mar 17, 2025, 3:28 PM

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Most of it was junk I think, though I did get a couple important things for various Zelda games.

weary lagoon Mar 17, 2025, 3:29 PM

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i checked my games nothing good 😔

proven holly Mar 17, 2025, 6:12 PM

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@dawn wigeon octyKnight sent CardLowerNorfairBoss to Dessy-SMZ3 (Egg_Shop_8)

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just barely affordable :)

proven holly Mar 17, 2025, 6:31 PM

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octyKnight sent CardMaridiaBoss to Dessy-SMZ3 (Geo_Rock-Beast's_Den_Below_Herrah)

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@midnight depot octyKnight sent Sand to FlitterGS (Rancid_Egg-Waterways_West_Bluggsac)

midnight depot Mar 17, 2025, 6:40 PM

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Hell yeah

proven holly Mar 17, 2025, 6:41 PM

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@dawn wigeon I need [Hint]: octyKnight's Void_Heart is at DB: Scan Harmonica Signal in Dessy-OW's World. (not found) to finish, not immediately important though

proven holly Mar 17, 2025, 6:58 PM

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octyKnight sent Captain's Hat to ArtiMM (Geo_Rock-Abyss_1)

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octyKnight sent Pak of Bubble Gum to LlisandurMom (Lifeblood_Core)

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octyKnight sent Key to the Cabin to LlisandurMom (Arcane_Egg-Birthplace)

dawn wigeon Mar 17, 2025, 7:09 PM

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proven holly <@100381061673930752> I need `[Hint]: octyKnight's Void_Heart is at DB: Scan Har...

Just got the signalscope so I can probably do this later today

proven holly Mar 17, 2025, 7:16 PM

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octyKnight sent MapEP to Dessy-SMZ3 (Grub-Collector_1)
octyKnight sent SmMapBrinstar to Dessy-SMZ3 (Collector's_Map)

midnight depot Mar 17, 2025, 8:10 PM

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Hi. Let's play Golden Sun and make use of the sand psynergy to get the few priority checks it unlocked

proven holly Mar 17, 2025, 8:15 PM

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octyKnight sent Ladders in Lower Quarry to LlisandurFox (Rancid_Egg-Crystal_Peak_Dark_Room)
octyKnight sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Geo_Rock-Crystal_Peak_Before_Dark_Room_Dupe)
octyKnight sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Descending_Dark)

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octyKnight sent Progressive Bow to ArtiMM (Mask_Shard-Enraged_Guardian)

midnight depot Mar 17, 2025, 8:23 PM

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FlitterGS sent Jewel of open to Dessy-SOTN (Yampi Desert Cave - Half-buried Item)

proven holly Mar 17, 2025, 8:24 PM

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octyKnight sent KeyIP to Dessy-SMZ3 (Grub-Crystal_Heart)

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octyKnight sent KeyTR to Dessy-SMZ3 (Geo_Chest-Crystal_Peak)

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octyKnight sent Suns Song to FlitterOoT (Geo_Rock-Hive_Entrance)

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octyKnight sent CardWreckedShipL1 to Dessy-SMZ3 (Geo_Rock-Hive_Stash)
octyKnight sent Romani Mask to ArtiMM (Mask_Shard-Hive)

midnight depot Mar 17, 2025, 8:48 PM

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FlitterGS sent Shiny Bamboo to ArtiKSS (Yampi Desert - Trainer's Whip)

proven holly Mar 17, 2025, 8:51 PM

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octyKnight sent Fairy to LlisandurFox (Geo_Rock-Deepnest_By_Mantis_Lords_Requires_Claw_2)
octyKnight sent Gyorg's Remains to ArtiMM (Geo_Rock-Deepnest_By_Mantis_Lords_Requires_Claw_3)

midnight depot Mar 17, 2025, 8:53 PM

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Gyorg is such a bad name

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FlitterGS sent Charm_Notch to octyKnight (N Osenia Islet - Cow's Treasure)

weary lagoon Mar 17, 2025, 8:54 PM

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hes a fish

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Goth is also a terrible name

midnight depot Mar 17, 2025, 8:54 PM

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Yeah he should be called Kyogre

weary lagoon Mar 17, 2025, 8:54 PM

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and hes an ox so hes got no excuse

midnight depot Mar 17, 2025, 8:55 PM

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Golden Sun is in BK mode. Let's grab some djinn just so I can beeline the boss when I have all my items

proven holly Mar 17, 2025, 9:11 PM

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octyKnight sent Jar of Fly Honey to LlisandurMom (Lifeblood_Cocoon-Galien)

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octyKnight sent Paint to ArtiKSS (Geo_Rock-Dark_Deepnest_Bottom_Left)

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octyKnight sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Weaversong)

weary lagoon Mar 17, 2025, 9:25 PM

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paint Frieren3

midnight depot Mar 17, 2025, 9:34 PM

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Still plenty of djinn to get. I need lash, whirlwind, tremor, shaman rod, my other characters https://i.imgur.com/XKSsYoM.png

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That's all for now

midnight depot Mar 17, 2025, 10:31 PM

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dawn wigeon I set up a cheese tracker, use it or don't: https://cheesetrackers.theincredible...

cold valve Mar 17, 2025, 10:45 PM

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port changed, it's now 44549

midnight depot Mar 17, 2025, 10:51 PM

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Let's play OoT

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Thanks for magic, zora tunic, slingshot, gerudo membership card, strength, zelda's lullaby

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Nobody told me I got all of these!

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sun's song is there too

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FlitterOoT sent Water Catch to FlitterAE (Colossus Great Fairy Reward) That was quick

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Bongo Bongo is dead

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Need din's fire for the last checks in Shadow Temple

cold valve Mar 17, 2025, 11:10 PM

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dr rOWmulus sent KeySW to Dessy-SMZ3 (DB: Scan Escape Pod 3 Signal)

midnight depot Mar 17, 2025, 11:12 PM

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FlitterOoT sent Bottle to Dessy-SMZ3 (OGC Great Fairy Reward)

cold valve Mar 17, 2025, 11:12 PM

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SMZ3 eating well today!

midnight depot Mar 17, 2025, 11:13 PM

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FlitterOoT sent Hero's Laurels to LlisandurFox (DMT Great Fairy Reward)

cold valve Mar 17, 2025, 11:15 PM

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dr rOWmulus sent Serenade of Water to FlitterOoT (DB: Find The Vessel)

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dr rOWmulus sent Progressive Wallet to FlitterOoT (DB Ship Log: The Vessel 2 - Dead Core)

midnight depot Mar 17, 2025, 11:16 PM

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Thanks

cold valve Mar 17, 2025, 11:18 PM

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BK'd in both games

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La DxRomulus sent Cube to LlisandurFF1 (Fisher (Martha's Bay)) @tender pelican

tender pelican Mar 17, 2025, 11:22 PM

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Woo!

midnight depot Mar 17, 2025, 11:25 PM

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FlitterOoT sent Tower Key to LlisandurFF4 (Gerudo Training Ground Maze Path First Chest)

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FlitterOoT sent Ghost Matter Wavelength to Dessy-OW (Song from Ocarina of Time)

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FlitterOoT sent progressive-fluid-handling to octyFactory (DMC Great Fairy Reward)

midnight depot Mar 17, 2025, 11:53 PM

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[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Light Arrows is at Garden - Charm in ArtiKSS's World. (not found)

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I will stop here.

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It looks like ganon's castle is in deku tree which makes my kokiri sword a go mode item

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FlitterOoT's Kokiri Sword is at Energy Tank, Ridley in Dessy-SMZ3's World. (not found)

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I need iron boots for a bunch of checks too [Hint]: FlitterOoT's Iron Boots is at EotE: Symbol Room Temple Code in Dessy-OW's World. (not found)

tender pelican Mar 18, 2025, 12:04 AM

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Sent center prong, skyhigh, bigkeydp, power of mist.

midnight depot Mar 18, 2025, 12:06 AM

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Thanks. Center prong might be one check

proven holly Mar 18, 2025, 5:31 AM

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octy_SC2 sent Signed Banana to LlisandurMom (Brothers in Arms: North Science Facility)
octy_SC2 sent Bucket to ArtiKSS (Brothers in Arms: South Science Facility)

proven holly Mar 18, 2025, 5:58 AM

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octy_SC2 sent Ladders in Well to LlisandurFox (Steps of the Rite: Northeast Guardian)

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octy_SC2 sent Bombos to Dessy-SMZ3 (Welcome to the Jungle: Main Base)
octy_SC2 sent Piggy Nose to LlisandurMom (Welcome to the Jungle: Up to 4 Terrazine Nodes Sealed)

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would like octy_SC2's Progressive Terran Weapon/Armor Upgrade is at LlisandurFox's Cathedral - [2F] Bird Room or octy_SC2's Progressive Terran Weapon/Armor Upgrade is at Dessy-SMZ3's Missile (outside Wrecked Ship top)

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not necessary i think but would be nice to do Gates of Hell

proven holly Mar 18, 2025, 7:35 AM

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octy_SC2 sent Bombchus to FlitterOoT (Maw of the Void: Stargate Rip Field Generator)

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i got a few more things but forgot to copy them out before i closed the window oops

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all my games are around average completion rate or BK'd so i'm not going to play unless I get one of the hinted things or I need to grab a hinted item

dawn wigeon Mar 18, 2025, 8:51 AM

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symmetrical coordinates

dawn wigeon Mar 18, 2025, 9:28 AM

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Did not know you could land up there

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fresh hill Mar 18, 2025, 9:47 AM

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…neither did I

dawn wigeon Mar 18, 2025, 10:08 AM

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Dessy-OW sent Void_Heart to octyKnight (DB: Scan Harmonica Signal)
Dessy-OW sent Gold Questagon to LlisandurFox (Scan Deep Space Satellite Signal)
Dessy-OW sent Rancid_Egg to octyKnight (EotE: Hidden Gorge Secret Slide Reel)
Dessy-OW sent Rancid_Egg to octyKnight (EotE: Cinder Isles Secret Slide Reel)
Dessy-OW sent Dins Fire to FlitterOoT (EotE: Cinder Isles Slide Reel)
Dessy-OW sent Iron Boots to FlitterOoT (EotE: Symbol Room Temple Code)
Dessy-OW sent Gold Questagon to LlisandurFox (DW: Starlit Cove Burned Building)

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[Hint]: Dessy-OW's Shrine Door Codes is at Fire Temple Volvagia Heart in FlitterOoT's World at Lake Hylia -> Water Temple Lobby. (not found)

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[Hint]: Dessy-OW's Escape Pod 3 Signal is at Rooted Ziggurat Lower - After Guarded Fuse in LlisandurFox's World. (not found)

dawn wigeon Mar 18, 2025, 11:12 AM

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Dessy-SOTN sent Lash Pebble to FlitterGS (NO4 - Toadstool(26))
Dessy-SOTN sent 9 Kerrigan Levels to octy_SC2 (Holy Symbol)
Dessy-SOTN sent Psionic Shift (Kerrigan Tier 2) to octy_SC2 (NO4 - Shiitake(27))
Dessy-SOTN sent Golden Coin to LlisandurFox (NO4 - Pentagram)
Dessy-SOTN sent Gold Questagon to LlisandurFox (CHI - Barley tea(Demon))
Dessy-SOTN sent Left Prong to FlitterGS (CHI - Peanuts 1(Demon))
Dessy-SOTN sent Nightmare Key (Key Cavern) to La DxRomulus (CAT - Bloodstone)
Dessy-SOTN sent Small Key (Turtle Rock) to La DxRomulus (CAT - Monster vial 3 2(Sarcophagus))

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@fresh hill I don't know if you're intended to be able to turn off this light here... but you can

fresh hill Mar 18, 2025, 11:23 AM

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I have no idea where that is

dawn wigeon Mar 18, 2025, 11:25 AM

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That is outside the sealed vault

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Basically if you know all three codes seems like you only need Dream Totem Patch to get in

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And whatever it takes to get in the thing

fresh hill Mar 18, 2025, 11:28 AM

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sorry I’m still not understanding this

dawn wigeon Mar 18, 2025, 11:28 AM

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Okay so you know the three puzzles you have to do to open the vault

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You can bypass those by putting in the correct codes

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One turns off the light, one brings the raft over, and one you'd put in normally

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So as long as you can get into the vault part of that section of the game, and you have Dream Totem Patch, you don't need the Limbo Warp Patch, the Alarm Bypass Patch or the Projection Range Patch

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Since those codes haven't been randomized

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I can make a video if you like

fresh hill Mar 18, 2025, 11:41 AM

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oooh the datamined codes

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I mean, those are known, logic just assumes you won’t use them, many players won’t even know they exist

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if this is one of the three “seal” lights then ofc you’re meant to turn it off so that part’s still confusing

dawn wigeon Mar 18, 2025, 11:44 AM

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Sorry I meant the overhead light

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Not the seal

fresh hill Mar 18, 2025, 11:44 AM

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uh

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the one above the bridge with the alarm totems?

dawn wigeon Mar 18, 2025, 11:45 AM

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The code turns off the overhead light

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Yeah

fresh hill Mar 18, 2025, 11:45 AM

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ah ok, I never used the codes myself

dawn wigeon Mar 18, 2025, 11:45 AM

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That's all if you knew the datamined codes existed and do not intend to randomize them there is nothing to be done

fresh hill Mar 18, 2025, 11:45 AM

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yeah

dawn wigeon Mar 18, 2025, 11:46 AM

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That said I was surprised the bridge wasn't at least randomized since that code is discovered naturally

fresh hill Mar 18, 2025, 11:46 AM

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I don’t expect players to have the symbols memorised

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the way you naturally discover it involves not even being able to see the symbols after all, much less memorising them

dawn wigeon Mar 18, 2025, 11:47 AM

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The symbols are still visible in the matrix

fresh hill Mar 18, 2025, 11:48 AM

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huh

dawn wigeon Mar 18, 2025, 11:49 AM

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Sidenote you can see this guy if you do that

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Something else I've discovered, it seems opening the vault disables the loop ending

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I've been wandering around well past the tower falling over

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nevermind loop music just started but it's at least a few minutes later than it should be... I knew certain parts of the dlc added time to the loop but I didn't realize how much extra time you get

dawn wigeon Mar 18, 2025, 12:33 PM

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Dessy-OW sent Particle Reflection (Stalker/Instigator/Slayer) to octy_SC2 (DW: Canyon Archive Glitch Reel)

dawn wigeon Mar 18, 2025, 1:23 PM

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Dessy-SMZ3 sent Kokiri Sword to FlitterOoT (Energy Tank, Ridley)

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[Hint]: Dessy-SMZ3's CardWreckedShipBoss is at Supernova: East Relic in octy_SC2's World. (not found)

tender pelican Mar 18, 2025, 2:54 PM

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Cleared ziggurat, so whatever you needed from there is sent.

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[Hint]: LlisandurFF1's Lute is at The Host: Southeast Void Shard in octy_SC2's World. (not found) need this to beat FF1.

tender pelican Mar 18, 2025, 3:30 PM

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LlisandurMom (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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Huh. I got the 5th location and then it just went "You won!" and went to the credits. XD

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Well, just waiting on FF1 then.

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I like not having to do the final boss, but I think next time I'll make it all 8 locations required.

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LlisandurMom sent Boss Key (Spirit Temple) to FlitterOoT (Brick Road Maze - Guarded Present)
LlisandurMom sent SpringBall to Dessy-SMZ3 (Stonehenge - Tony Item)
LlisandurMom sent Imaging Rule to dr rOWmulus (Snow Wood - Many Present Room Present #2)

weary lagoon Mar 18, 2025, 4:38 PM

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nice, log says I got deku mask

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now I can play the game

proven holly Mar 18, 2025, 5:22 PM

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octy_SC2 sent CardWreckedShipBoss to Dessy-SMZ3 (Supernova: East Relic)

proven holly Mar 18, 2025, 5:38 PM

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octy_SC2 sent Lute to LlisandurFF1 (The Host: Southeast Void Shard)

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octy_SC2 sent Priority Mail to ArtiMM (The Host: Nerazim Warp in Zone)

weary lagoon Mar 18, 2025, 6:25 PM

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ArtiMM sent Scale to La DxRomulus (Woodfall Temple Wooden Flower Deku Baba SF)

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ArtiMM sent Ocarina to FlitterOoT (Woodfall Temple Boss Key Chest)

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imagine thats your first..

midnight depot Mar 18, 2025, 6:30 PM

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Good guess

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Guess again though

weary lagoon Mar 18, 2025, 6:36 PM

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ArtiMM sent KeyTR to Dessy-SMZ3 (Woodfall Temple Dragonfly Chest)

midnight depot Mar 18, 2025, 6:37 PM

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Let's play Ocarina of Time

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I got a lot of really big things

weary lagoon Mar 18, 2025, 6:37 PM

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ArtiMM sent Small Key (Angler's Tunnel) to La DxRomulus (Woodfall Temple Wooden Flower Bubble SF)

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ArtiMM sent Small Key (Angler's Tunnel) to La DxRomulus (Woodfall Temple Wooden Flower Bubble SF)

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i got two but

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i dont want to copy paste the new location

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ArtiMM sent Crushing Grip (Kerrigan Tier 2) to octy_SC2 (Woodfall Temple Odolwa's Remains)

cold valve Mar 18, 2025, 6:42 PM

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That's ok i didn't need either of them

midnight depot Mar 18, 2025, 6:43 PM

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Thank you for Farore's Wind, fire temple boss key, winner heart piece, din's fire, iron boots, kokiri sword, spirit temple boss key, stone of agony (!), ocarina of time.

weary lagoon Mar 18, 2025, 6:43 PM

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how am I on 66% when ive beaten the only zone in the game

cold valve Mar 18, 2025, 6:43 PM

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You're that good

weary lagoon Mar 18, 2025, 6:43 PM

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oh yeah cause it counts the spiderhouse which is all junk

midnight depot Mar 18, 2025, 6:47 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/XdTilVE.png fucking seed

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I had to do most of the game just to be able to enter deku tree

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Now I have to warp to temple of time and walk all the way back to deku tree again to do ganon's castle

weary lagoon Mar 18, 2025, 6:49 PM

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@proven hollyThis is my go mode

midnight depot Mar 18, 2025, 6:49 PM

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My go mode is light arrows

cold valve Mar 18, 2025, 6:51 PM

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My go mode is quantum frequency

weary lagoon Mar 18, 2025, 6:53 PM

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i will play kirby tomorrow or maybe today

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Maybe I have enough treasure to progress

cold valve Mar 18, 2025, 6:55 PM

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Ladx has plenty left before go mode

proven holly Mar 18, 2025, 7:00 PM

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weary lagoon <@101805079555764224>This is my go mode

the chain for this is so long

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actually wait i think it just cleaned up

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cause i think Flitter got Lash Pebble just today?

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so octyFactory's oil-gathering is at FlitterGS's Shrine of the Sea God - Right Prong should be gettable, yes?

midnight depot Mar 18, 2025, 7:01 PM

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Correct!

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I'm playing OoT though

proven holly Mar 18, 2025, 7:02 PM

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i think most of the factorio stuff should be gettable as soon as i have that

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i havent looked at yellow/purple science yet so idk if they're gonna cause more issues

midnight depot Mar 18, 2025, 7:03 PM

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Fuck, you, Ganon's Castle https://i.imgur.com/VZuPSVm.png

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I got every check except one and they were all junk https://i.imgur.com/Ehn5ftI.png

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proven holly Mar 18, 2025, 7:07 PM

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yeah there's been a lot of that this time around

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it seems like i get a huge pile of junk and then a big hit of progression

midnight depot Mar 18, 2025, 7:08 PM

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We could try disabling any and all progression balancing next month

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If I understand that correctly, it should result in more stop and go gameplay, but also less clumping

weary lagoon Mar 18, 2025, 7:09 PM

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3 month game inc

midnight depot Mar 18, 2025, 7:09 PM

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Nah

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FlitterAE's Progressive Water Net is at Ganons Tower Boss Key Chest in FlitterOoT's World at KF Outside Deku Tree -> Deku Tree Lobby. (not found)

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Since I have no light arrows, I need to trials skip there

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https://youtu.be/AZGccdS6nkQ

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ZeldaSpeedRuns

OoT: Armos Trials Skip

For more information, please visit: http://zelda.speedruns.com/oot/majorsb/trials-skip#armos-clip

▶ Play video

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There. FlitterOoT sent Progressive Water Net to FlitterAE (Ganons Tower Boss Key Chest)

weary lagoon Mar 18, 2025, 7:25 PM

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im such a nice (and good looking) guy that im gonna try to get the light arrow now

midnight depot Mar 18, 2025, 7:25 PM

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Thanks

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True on both counts

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Meanwhile let's do Dessy-OW's Shrine Door Codes is at Fire Temple Volvagia Heart in FlitterOoT's World at Lake Hylia -> Water Temple Lobby. (not found)

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Wow Volvagia deals two hearts of damage at a time

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Thank god I had fairies

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FlitterOoT sent Shrine Door Codes to Dessy-OW (Fire Temple Volvagia Heart)

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What else can I do?

weary lagoon Mar 18, 2025, 7:30 PM

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I did it

midnight depot Mar 18, 2025, 7:31 PM

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Nice! Thanks

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I'll go ahead and finish the game, but not release just yet

weary lagoon Mar 18, 2025, 7:36 PM

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Factorio is also holding kirby go mode

proven holly Mar 18, 2025, 7:38 PM

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unsurprised

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its been at 30% for ages and had no hints in it for a long time

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so i figured it was gonna be endgame

midnight depot Mar 18, 2025, 7:41 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/shblpFH.png
https://i.imgur.com/rN8k7Km.png

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cold valve Mar 18, 2025, 7:42 PM

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Lol

weary lagoon Mar 18, 2025, 7:42 PM

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Why is that stupid?

midnight depot Mar 18, 2025, 7:43 PM

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One cycle ganon https://i.imgur.com/WinbWoC.png

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He deals three hearts of damage per hit, so I got lucky

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Thanks again for biggoron sword

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FlitterOoT (Team #1) has completed their goal.

tender pelican Mar 18, 2025, 7:49 PM

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Woo!

midnight depot Mar 18, 2025, 7:50 PM

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Next time I play OoT I'm going to finish water and spirit temples for octy_SC2's Swarm Queen is at Sheik in Kakariko in FlitterOoT's World. (not found)

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For now let's move to golden sun

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Thank you for center prong, left prong, lash

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Now where the fuck is my sol blade so I can trivialize bosses

weary lagoon Mar 18, 2025, 8:11 PM

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in the mountains

midnight depot Mar 18, 2025, 8:35 PM

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Bosses who can almost kill a character in one hit should not get three attacks in one turn https://i.imgur.com/lj8XdF1.png

Imgur

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Everyone was at full!

midnight depot Mar 18, 2025, 8:52 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/TP5Pqzh.png

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Bam

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FlitterGS (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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Now, I don't wanna do most of the stuff that's left to do in this game so I'll just release.

weary lagoon Mar 18, 2025, 8:54 PM

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Well done! That brings us to 6/19 completed games

midnight depot Mar 18, 2025, 8:55 PM

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FlitterGS sent Alarm Bypass Patch to Dessy-OW (Indra Cavern - Zagan Tablet)
FlitterGS sent Quantum Fluctuations Frequency to dr rOWmulus (Tundaria Tower - Burst Brooch)
FlitterGS sent Small Key (Turtle Rock) to La DxRomulus (Islet Cave - Catastrophe Tablet)
FlitterGS found their Shaman's Rod (Gabomba Statue - Early Isaac Room Two)
FlitterGS sent Reaver to octy_SC2 (Alhafra - Cave Right Side Two)
FlitterGS sent R.C. Car to FlitterAE (Kandorean Temple - Mysterious Card)
FlitterGS sent Stray Fairy (Woodfall) to ArtiMM (Gabomba Catacombs - Tomegathericon)
FlitterGS sent Boss_Essence-Galien to octyKnight (Alhafra - Cave Right Side Three)
FlitterGS sent Progressive Shield to La DxRomulus (Kandorean Temple - Mimic)
FlitterGS sent Gold Questagon to LlisandurFox (Izumo - Ulysses Tablet)
FlitterGS sent Small Key (Key Cavern) to La DxRomulus (Kandorean Temple - Lash Pebble)
FlitterGS sent BigKeyTR to Dessy-SMZ3 (Madra - Mayor's Gift)
FlitterGS sent Mushroom to Dessy-SMZ3 (Shaman Village - Trial Road Cleared)
FlitterGS sent ProgressiveShield to Dessy-SMZ3 (Gabomba Reward - Gabomba Reward)
FlitterGS sent oil-gathering to octyFactory (Shrine of the Sea God - Right Prong)
FlitterGS found their Tremor Bit (Ivan - Lifting Gem)
FlitterGS sent SmMapLowerNorfair to Dessy-SMZ3 (Air's Rock Exterior - Frost Ledge)
FlitterGS sent Tut's Mask to ArtiKSS (Madra Catacombs - Ruin Key)
FlitterGS sent Song of Healing to ArtiMM (Air's Rock Interior - Top Floor)
FlitterGS sent Requiem of Spirit to FlitterOoT (Tundaria Tower - 2F - North Room)
FlitterGS sent ReserveTank to Dessy-SMZ3 (Osenia Cliffs - Pirate Sword)
FlitterGS sent Bad Key Machine to LlisandurMom (Air's Rock Interior - Left Path - Blue 5 Room)
FlitterGS sent Progressive Wallet to FlitterOoT (Ankohl Ruins - Left Path - Filled Pit)
FlitterGS sent Nayrus Love to FlitterOoT (Ankohl Ruins - Left Prong)```

proven holly Mar 18, 2025, 8:58 PM

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will get on factorio later

cold valve Mar 18, 2025, 8:58 PM

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Wow

midnight depot Mar 18, 2025, 8:58 PM

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Oh also, log update

📎 message.txt

cold valve Mar 18, 2025, 8:58 PM

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That unblocks some stuff in ladx and puts ow in go mode

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Thanks!

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I hope i find bombs in face shrine

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Actually i think go mode might just be magic rod now

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My bombs are local

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Oh and slime key

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We'll see what's what when i get home

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Well, after the stream

proven holly Mar 18, 2025, 10:31 PM

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ugh, i really need to PR something to update factorio automatically

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bit of a pain to keep having to fetch the zip, unpack, overwrite cleanly, restart

midnight depot Mar 18, 2025, 10:33 PM

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Do you need to keep updating Factorio?

proven holly Mar 18, 2025, 10:33 PM

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steam does it automatically

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i could stop that i suppose

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but meh, i usually like to get bugfixes

midnight depot Mar 18, 2025, 10:34 PM

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Oh I just have two instances of DRM-free Factorio, one for server and one for client

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I update them when I go for a new archipelago game

proven holly Mar 18, 2025, 10:35 PM

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i like having all my playtime tracked

midnight depot Mar 18, 2025, 10:35 PM

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That's fair!

proven holly Mar 18, 2025, 10:36 PM

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oh good, i actually have all the parts for robots now

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i still don't have my repair packs :( octyFactory's repair-pack is at LlisandurFox's Quarry - [West] Lower Area Below Bridge

midnight depot Mar 18, 2025, 10:39 PM

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I bought Tunic

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Eager to finish it and see if I like it enough to run it on AP

tender pelican Mar 18, 2025, 10:56 PM

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proven holly i still don't have my repair packs :( `octyFactory's repair-pack is at Llisandur...

Ugh, I don't have the mask and that area is impossible without it. If I don't get it by Thursday I'll release. I've gotten most of the checks by now.

midnight depot Mar 18, 2025, 10:57 PM

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We're only 19 days in. Make sure you don't end up with nothing to play

tender pelican Mar 18, 2025, 10:58 PM

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I'm basically done with all mine. There's only about 40 checks left for Tunic, I've finished Earthbound and FF4, and I literally only need 1 item so I can go into the final boss's room in FF1.

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Everything has been pretty timely this month. XD

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I need to start my play through of DQ6 anyway.

cold valve Mar 19, 2025, 1:56 AM

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let's play ladx

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La DxRomulus sent Spin Jump to ryansmw (Slime Eye Heart Container (Key Cavern))

dawn wigeon Mar 19, 2025, 2:09 AM

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Dessy-SMZ3 sent Translator (Dark Bramble) to dr rOWmulus (Right Super, Wrecked Ship)
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Ivan to FlitterGS (Missile (Gravity Suit))
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Slime Key to La DxRomulus (Gravity Suit)
Dessy-SMZ3 sent TwinHarp to LlisandurFF4 (Ice Palace - Freezor Chest)
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Progressive Powerup to ryansmw (Swamp Palace - Flooded Room - Right)
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Right Prong to FlitterGS (Misery Mire - Big Chest)
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Sea God's Tear to FlitterGS (Misery Mire - Spike Chest)

[Hint]: Dessy-SMZ3's Somaria is at Engine of Destruction: North Devourer in octy_SC2's World. (not found)

dawn wigeon Mar 19, 2025, 3:18 AM

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OW done and released

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I'm not sure releasing actually sent anything out though, think I had all the checks done

cold valve Mar 19, 2025, 3:20 AM

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La DxRomulus sent Book to Dessy-SMZ3 (Left of Hinox Zamboni Chest (Turtle Rock))

dawn wigeon Mar 19, 2025, 3:20 AM

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SOTN is only waiting on the rib

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Somaria should be go mode for SMZ3

cold valve Mar 19, 2025, 3:37 AM

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La DxRomulus sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Hot Head Heart Container (Turtle Rock))

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La DxRomulus (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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release was all junk

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let

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let's play outer wilds

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dr rOWmulus sent Whirlwind to FlitterGS (ET: Scan Cave Shard Signal)

proven holly Mar 19, 2025, 4:04 AM

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rip me sitting in my base lol

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DeathLink: dr rOWmulus should've slowed down.

cold valve Mar 19, 2025, 4:04 AM

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tell hollow's lantern not to bomb me while i'm in my ship lol

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dr rOWmulus sent Deploy Fenix (Spear of Adun Calldown) to octy_SC2 (QM Ship Log: Quantum Shrine 3 - Entanglement Rule)

cold valve Mar 19, 2025, 4:48 AM

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dr rOWmulus sent Solar Lance (Spear of Adun Calldown) to octy_SC2 (DB Ship Log: Escape Pod 3 1 - Identify)

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dr rOWmulus sent Ice Arrows to FlitterOoT (DB: Nomai Grave (Text Wheel))

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dangit. i was cruising past the fish with the warp core when the sun exploded but i didn't know it had gone

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my freakin ATP warp is in the brittle hollow tower so i don't have long to get to the vessel

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dr rOWmulus (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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wow, this time the sun blew up while i was entering the coordinates so i got to see the supernova from the Eye

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it's, uh, REALLY far away

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dr rOWmulus sent ReserveTank to Dessy-SMZ3 (Scan Deep Space Satellite Signal)

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dr rOWmulus sent Photon Cannon to octy_SC2 (GD Ship Log: Probe Tracking Module 1 - Millions)

proven holly Mar 19, 2025, 7:26 AM

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welp, i only got through setting up nuclear and the steel for all the stuff i need

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checks will need to wait for tomorrow

midnight depot Mar 19, 2025, 6:25 PM

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Hello

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Let's play Ape Escape

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FlitterAE sent Song of Storms to ArtiMM (1-2 Primordial Ooze Coin - Main)

midnight depot Mar 19, 2025, 6:53 PM

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FlitterAE sent Stalker to octy_SC2 (8-1 City Park Coin - Outside)

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FlitterAE sent 10 Kerrigan Levels to octy_SC2 (8-1 City Park Coin - Barrel Room)

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FlitterAE sent Diamondback to octy_SC2 (8-1 City Park Monkey 9 - CK Hutch)

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FlitterAE sent Small Key (Key Cavern) to La DxRomulus (8-1 City Park Monkey 4 - Alcatraz)

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Cleared the whole stage with infinite jumps

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Would've been a lot easier with FlitterAE's Sky Flyer is at Intro Stage - Defeated Bee Blader #2 in ryanmmx's World. (not found)

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On the plus side I'm getting a lot more consistent at the timing

tender pelican Mar 19, 2025, 7:08 PM

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@rare oxide You need to do the intro stage! It's a separate option on the title screen. XD

midnight depot Mar 19, 2025, 7:19 PM

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FlitterAE sent Kafei's Mask to ArtiMM (8-3 TV Tower Monkey 10 - Tellis)

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FlitterAE sent Stray Fairy (Woodfall) to ArtiMM (8-3 TV Tower Monkey 12 - Frostee)

rare oxide Mar 19, 2025, 7:21 PM

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tender pelican <@169956786403540992> You need to do the intro stage! It's a separate option on ...

Ah, didn't know that was required. I thought that's why the separated it. XD

midnight depot Mar 19, 2025, 7:25 PM

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That's all for today. I need the sky flyer and two world keys

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[Hint]: FlitterAE's World Key is at Defeated Velguarder in ryanmmx's World. (not found)
[Hint]: FlitterAE's World Key is at AP-6-008 in octyFactory's World. (not found)

rare oxide Mar 19, 2025, 7:26 PM

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Hmm I was going to do that stage real quick but I can't seem to connect to the server.

weary lagoon Mar 19, 2025, 7:26 PM

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new port

rare oxide Mar 19, 2025, 7:27 PM

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oic

weary lagoon Mar 19, 2025, 7:27 PM

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44549

rare oxide Mar 19, 2025, 7:29 PM

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Thank you. I've been kinda buried in a project so I've been kinda disconnected.

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Worked great, thank you again.

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Okay, done. Intro stage with upgrades is hilarious.

tender pelican Mar 19, 2025, 7:34 PM

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Lol.

midnight depot Mar 19, 2025, 7:37 PM

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Thanks!

dawn wigeon Mar 19, 2025, 8:20 PM

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cold valve dangit. i was cruising past the fish with the warp core when the sun exploded bu...

At least you didn't do what I did, I got to the vessel with the core and decided for fun to use the eject... I was too close to the vessel so died instantly

midnight depot Mar 20, 2025, 8:39 AM

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https://github.com/ArsonAssassin/S3AP/releases/tag/0.2.0

GitHub

Release V0.2.0 · ArsonAssassin/S3AP

Duckstation support and new client

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Spyro 3 AP is on duckstation now

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I was super disappointed when it asked for epsxe

midnight depot Mar 20, 2025, 7:00 PM

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Hi

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Let's play Ape Escape

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FlitterAE sent Small Key (Bottle Grotto) to La DxRomulus (5-3 Hot Springs Monkey 8 - Claxter)
FlitterAE sent Stray Fairy (Woodfall) to ArtiMM (5-3 Hot Springs Coin - Hot Spring)

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FlitterAE sent Key to the Locker to LlisandurMom (6-1 Gladiator Attack Coin 2)
FlitterAE sent Eponas Song to FlitterOoT (6-1 Gladiator Attack Coin 5)

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Time for the dreaded soap narrows https://i.imgur.com/WrA4oXK.png

Imgur

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Yep, can't run through

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Bah, a bug caused me to exit the level a tad too early

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That is BK mode for Ape Escape

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We are at 9/19 games completed, 88% of checks, and 11 days left to go

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Next time I'll play more Ocarina of Time

proven holly Mar 20, 2025, 9:09 PM

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octyKnight (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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im thinking i dont really wanna do more HK so im just gonna release

midnight depot Mar 20, 2025, 9:10 PM

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Fair enough

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That makes us at 10!

proven holly Mar 20, 2025, 9:11 PM

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wasn't much left anyways
octyKnight sent Powder Keg to ArtiMM (Hallownest_Seal-Queen's_Gardens)
octyKnight sent New Wave Bossa Nova to ArtiMM (Pale_Ore-Colosseum)
octyKnight sent ReserveTank to Dessy-SMZ3 (Geo_Rock-Moss_Prophet_Dupe)

midnight depot Mar 20, 2025, 11:51 PM

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I'm playing Tunic for the first time. You can read me journaling it over at https://discord.com/channels/98609319519453184/1155938111407276173 if interested. If I'm lucky, I can run it for next month

proven holly Mar 21, 2025, 4:10 AM

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finally got mil science.....
octyFactory sent Progressive Powerup to ryansmw (AP-3-478)

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octyFactory sent Odolwa's Remains to ArtiMM (AP-3-848)

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octyFactory sent Sword Upgrade to LlisandurFox (AP-4-381)

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octyFactory sent Stray Fairy (Woodfall) to ArtiMM (AP-3-623)

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octyFactory sent Ladders near Overworld Checkpoint to LlisandurFox (AP-3-347)

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octyFactory sent Stray Fairy (Woodfall) to ArtiMM (AP-4-532)

proven holly Mar 21, 2025, 7:22 AM

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octyFactory sent CardNorfairL1 to Dessy-SMZ3 (AP-5-521)

proven holly Mar 21, 2025, 7:44 AM

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octyFactory sent Stray Fairy (Woodfall) to ArtiMM (AP-5-091)

proven holly Mar 21, 2025, 8:18 AM

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octyFactory sent Fire to ArtiKSS (AP-6-359)

midnight depot Mar 21, 2025, 8:18 AM

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Nice!

proven holly Mar 21, 2025, 8:18 AM

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@weary lagoon

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octyFactory sent World Key to FlitterAE (AP-6-008)

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octyFactory sent Crystal to LlisandurFF1 (AP-6-139)

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wow the rando satellite recipe is mean

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https://url.octyl.net/me17gk0alrzn0ujt7ls7

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at least all the research will be done so i dont think i need more supplies

midnight depot Mar 21, 2025, 8:32 AM

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248 productivity modules is absurd

proven holly Mar 21, 2025, 8:32 AM

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at least its not 248 prod 3

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i think 248 prod 1 is ~ 1 prod 3

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oh no, its not that bad

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yikes

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well, i only gotta make one :P

midnight depot Mar 21, 2025, 8:33 AM

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The vanilla recipe just takes 16

proven holly Mar 21, 2025, 8:33 AM

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octyFactory sent Stray Fairy (Woodfall) to ArtiMM (AP-6-544)

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i think i will wrap up all the research now, then do rocket + sat tomorrow

weary lagoon Mar 21, 2025, 8:40 AM

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Nice. Sounds like I can finish both games tomorrow

proven holly Mar 21, 2025, 8:43 AM

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179 / 179, all checks done

proven holly Mar 21, 2025, 6:30 PM

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https://url.octyl.net/bis15snjgwhasq3zayl7

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ded

proven holly Mar 21, 2025, 6:51 PM

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octy_SC2 sent Bottle to LlisandurFF1 (Engine of Destruction: West Base)
octy_SC2 sent Somaria to Dessy-SMZ3 (Engine of Destruction: North Devourer)

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@dawn wigeon

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octy_SC2 sent Treasure Box to ArtiKSS (Smash and Grab: Third Relic)

proven holly Mar 21, 2025, 7:31 PM

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octy_SC2 (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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i'm gonna leave the last few checks for the end of the month

midnight depot Mar 21, 2025, 8:09 PM

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36 hours

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I also get similar times because instead of optimizing my factory I make a MVP and then alt tab

proven holly Mar 21, 2025, 8:11 PM

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yep

tender pelican Mar 21, 2025, 10:04 PM

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LlisandurFF1 sent Armored Armadillo Access Codes to ryanmmx (Fairy)

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LlisandurFF1 (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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That's 4/4!

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And Atelier Yumia just came out, so I will now be playing that.

midnight depot Mar 21, 2025, 10:05 PM

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Log update

📎 message.txt

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We are at 13/19 games done

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Remaining: ArtikSS, ArtiMM, Dessy-SMZ3, Dessy-SOTN, ryanmmx, ryansmw

tender pelican Mar 21, 2025, 10:07 PM

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Released LlisandurFF1 sent Deep Space Radio Frequency to dr rOWmulus (Nerrick)
LlisandurFF1 sent Super Star Activate to ryansmw (Matoya)
LlisandurFF1 sent Gravity boots to Dessy-SOTN (Shop Item)

fresh hill Mar 21, 2025, 10:15 PM

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and I believe I have officially finished all the Outer Wilds and Nine Sols mod updates I wanted to do before properly shifting gears from modding games to playing them

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so I'll definitely be here for April's game

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currently thinking of bringing Tunic, OW and 9S with max options/extra mods/etc

dawn wigeon Mar 21, 2025, 10:46 PM

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My sotn is hard stuck behind majora's mask

midnight depot Mar 21, 2025, 10:57 PM

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And Majora's mask should be fully doable now!

weary lagoon Mar 22, 2025, 8:32 AM

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META KNIGHT!!!!

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I WONT LET YOU DESTROY MY WOOOOORLD!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue5A_5zJPUc

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ArtiKSS sent Boss_Essence-Soul_Tyrant to octyKnight (Revenge of Meta Knight - Chapter 3)

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ArtiKSS sent progressive-train-network to octyFactory (Revenge of Meta Knight - Chapter 5)

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ArtiKSS sent 8 Kerrigan Levels to octy_SC2 (Revenge of Meta Knight - Chapter 7)

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ArtiKSS (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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Release had FlitterOoTs Sarias Song

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ArtiMM (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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ArtiMM sent Rib of vlad to Dessy-SOTN (Woodfall Great Fairy Reward)
ArtiMM sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Termina Kamaro)

midnight depot Mar 22, 2025, 9:18 AM

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15/19!

weary lagoon Mar 22, 2025, 9:19 AM

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Remember back when video games were good and your reward for beating the game was getting to marry the hot chick

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in the credits

midnight depot Mar 22, 2025, 9:20 AM

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I just finished Tunic and it turns out, videogames are still good

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(only the true ending though)

weary lagoon Mar 22, 2025, 9:20 AM

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Does Tunic marry the hot furry?

midnight depot Mar 22, 2025, 9:21 AM

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Tunic is the hot furry

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Also yes

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Since I finished Tunic, it's probably time to look into the archipelago implementation

weary lagoon Mar 22, 2025, 9:22 AM

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That was a trick question, there is no hot furry (Michiru is an anime)

midnight depot Mar 22, 2025, 9:22 AM

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    # Adds four sword upgrades to the item pool that will progressively grant stronger melee weapons, including two new swords with increased range and attack power.
    'false': 0
    'true': 50```
This is on by default. Isn't it a bit much? The default sword is too strong already

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Replaces low-to-medium value money rewards in the item pool with fool traps, which cause random negative effects to the player.
What random negative effects? Lose consumables? Die? Enemies spawn at you? Get teleported?

weary lagoon Mar 22, 2025, 9:25 AM

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you have to watch an episode of Konosuba

fresh hill Mar 22, 2025, 1:45 PM

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midnight depot Since I finished Tunic, it's probably time to look into the archipelago implemen...

note that the rando will expect you to have already solved and/or be okay with spoiling the golden path, all fairies, and all treasures, since those are locations/items in rando

fresh hill Mar 22, 2025, 1:48 PM

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midnight depot ```sword_progression: # Adds four sword upgrades to the item pool that will ...

IME the extra swords are fun and not a big deal for balance since they don't fundamentally change how the boss fights work; the really big jumps in practice are still no melee -> stick and stick -> sword

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I have been thinking of using early_items on some randomly chosen non-sword weapon, because historically too many of my Tunic seeds have either expected me to play half the game weaponless, or just gave me the sword early enough that it was basically the same as vanilla (which I know is partially my fault for using start_with_sword lol)

fresh hill Mar 22, 2025, 1:50 PM

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midnight depot `Replaces low-to-medium value money rewards in the item pool with fool traps, wh...

the effects I remember are the purple goop damage that lowers max HP, and some cosmetic effects I won't spoil; I never saw items disappear or enemies spawn

midnight depot Mar 22, 2025, 6:23 PM

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Good!

midnight depot Mar 23, 2025, 12:59 AM

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fresh hill IME the extra swords are fun and not a big deal for balance since they don't fun...

My main concern is getting the ability to cut as many bushes as you like early, which I guess will probably happen anyway

fresh hill Mar 23, 2025, 1:03 AM

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yeah, the bushes situation is... weirdly maybe the hardest design challenge in the whole rando, because you have to get past some bushes to do almost anything, but right after that bushes are never a blocker again

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and in principle you can do it with enemy manipulation or consumables ||or the free bomb codes||, but not everyone knows that

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iirc in recent versions of the randomizer there's even a setting to just turn off the damn bushes so you don't have to do any of that rdsnrk

midnight depot Mar 23, 2025, 1:04 AM

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I was actually just about to post that

fresh hill Mar 23, 2025, 1:05 AM

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personally I think I'll do [spoiler] this time

midnight depot Mar 23, 2025, 1:07 AM

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1- ||Down, Right, Up, Right, Up, Left, Up, Left, Down, Left, Down, Right ↓ → ↑ → ↑ ← ↑ ← ↓ ← ↓ →||
2- ||Left, Down, Right, Up, Right, Down, Right, Up, Right, Down, Right, Up, Left ← ↓ → ↑ → ↓ → ↑ → ↓ → ↑ ←||
3- ||Left, Up, Right, Down, Right, Up, Right, Down, Right, Up, Right, Down, Left ← ↑ → ↓ → ↑ → ↓ → ↑ → ↓ ←||

fresh hill Mar 23, 2025, 1:08 AM

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oh right, the poptracker pack has ||most of the codes you'll need embedded in the images||

midnight depot Mar 23, 2025, 1:09 AM

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I have them as a note in Steam that I can show in-game to execute

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Since I play fullscreen

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Wait there's an accessibility option that makes it so I don't have to do all this stupid shit

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Fuck, no

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That's not how it works

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I wanted something where I just press X

midnight depot Mar 23, 2025, 1:37 AM

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Let's play Ape Escape

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lmao

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FlitterAE sent electric-energy-accumulators to octyFactory (5-2 Frosty Retreat Monkey 7 - Sticky)

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You did the whole thing without accumulators

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I just have one level left and it's not a good level, so I'll release

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It had nothing of value!

proven holly Mar 23, 2025, 1:43 AM

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yeah uh

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finding out i didnt have accumulators was fun

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lots of my blueprints have them for power stuff

midnight depot Mar 23, 2025, 1:47 AM

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This leaves OoT as my last game with checks

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!remaining says I got KeyGT in there

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I'll play later and see if I can get it

dawn wigeon Mar 23, 2025, 7:39 AM

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Dessy-SOTN (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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I am the wind

midnight depot Mar 23, 2025, 7:44 AM

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Well done! Three games left

dawn wigeon Mar 23, 2025, 8:07 AM

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Dessy-SMZ3 (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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weary lagoon Mar 23, 2025, 8:15 AM

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doesnt look like it

dawn wigeon Mar 23, 2025, 8:19 AM

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Release had nothing important for Ryan

midnight depot Mar 23, 2025, 8:20 AM

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Nice!

weary lagoon Mar 23, 2025, 8:25 AM

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Sounds like TTYD AP might release in April thats gonna be so cinema

dawn wigeon Mar 23, 2025, 8:28 AM

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Probably the least amount of time spent ingame this archi

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For my set anyway

midnight depot Mar 24, 2025, 3:41 AM

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For my Tunic run I want to have an interesting challenge, but I'm not sure what I want to do exactly

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A no-sword, no-stick run? An enemy randomizer run?

proven holly Mar 24, 2025, 4:51 AM

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finished up the rest of SC2

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was already done with game, just got all the checks

fresh hill Mar 24, 2025, 11:05 AM

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I'll definitely be doing enemy randomizer, but in part because I plan on forcing a weapon early; there's a few places where weaponless enemy rando doesn't work (e.g. bottom of the well if a big enemy is in the water)

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and weaponless definitely won't work reliably on the bosses

midnight depot Mar 24, 2025, 11:23 AM

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I've been doing a vanilla run and it turns out there are two spare swords you can find if you have somehow strayed so far from the intended path that you're hopeless

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That explains why the randomizer has three sword levels

fresh hill Mar 24, 2025, 12:03 PM

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the west garden spare was confirmed to be placed there by the devs specifically for speedrunner convenience

midnight depot Mar 24, 2025, 12:09 PM

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It really fucked my gun% run up

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All I wanted was to get more stats so I can live the quarry

midnight depot Mar 24, 2025, 11:42 PM

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Hi. Let's play OoT

midnight depot Mar 24, 2025, 11:59 PM

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FlitterOoT sent KeyGT to Dessy-SMZ3 (GC Darunias Joy)

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All done for the month

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That leaves Ryan's games!

fresh hill Mar 25, 2025, 12:01 AM

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oh right, next weekend is probably gonna be when I need to get my April games sorted out

midnight depot Mar 25, 2025, 12:02 AM

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I think for Tunic I want to cut out the holy cross checks entirely

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No RSI for me

midnight depot Mar 25, 2025, 4:52 AM

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Tunic: How does one reach this chest? ||https://i.imgur.com/yzMvmK2.png||

Imgur

tender pelican Mar 25, 2025, 4:59 AM

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||There's an gap at the southwest end where you go behind the lake.||

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Ugh, how do spoilers.

midnight depot Mar 25, 2025, 5:04 AM

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Thanks. I figured it out! ||https://i.imgur.com/cygUg4x.png||

Imgur

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To be clear, the only thing that's a spoiler is ||the appearance of the hero's laurels||

midnight depot Mar 25, 2025, 6:01 AM

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What about this one? ||https://i.imgur.com/2IER3SQ.png||

Imgur

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I don't even know where this one is but my in-game tracking says it's here

midnight depot Mar 25, 2025, 6:22 AM

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Oh it was a secret

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||https://i.imgur.com/GXdsxGL.png|| All done, 100% vanilla Tunic checks in ten hours

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midnight depot Mar 26, 2025, 8:43 AM

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Hi. Progress update @rare oxide?

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I'd rather we finish this month's game before I start collecting YAMLs for the next one

weary lagoon Mar 26, 2025, 6:38 PM

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You can do it Ryan!!

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TTYD release within a week lets wait for that before our next game

midnight depot Mar 26, 2025, 6:46 PM

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If we're late, it'd coincide with the start of Eid where I'm forced to meet up with family instead of doing anything useful

weary lagoon Mar 26, 2025, 6:55 PM

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i thought that was on monday

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thats when the muslim kids have taken the day off school

midnight depot Mar 26, 2025, 6:56 PM

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They do things differently

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In this country, people have to observe the new moon for the month to end

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Which means the month can be one day late sometimes

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This year, Ramadan and March started on the same day, but Ramadan can be 29 or 30 days.

weary lagoon Mar 26, 2025, 6:58 PM

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so its an rng holiday

rare oxide Mar 26, 2025, 8:32 PM

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Sorry. I was going to finish Sunday, but the steamdeck crashed in the middle of the run and kinda pissed me off, then I’ve just been kinda out of it / busy. Going to try to finish up today. Mario might take me a little bit to finish.

midnight depot Mar 26, 2025, 8:33 PM

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No problem, that's very understandable

rare oxide Mar 26, 2025, 8:36 PM

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Save stating the boss run this time. >.>

midnight depot Mar 26, 2025, 8:40 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0PMOuN7AyU

YouTube

somecunt

Ocarina of Time - Dodongo's Cavern Early (No explosives)

▶ Play video

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This setup is good for dungeon entrance randomization

weary lagoon Mar 26, 2025, 8:41 PM

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i feel like i always have explosives when I get there

midnight depot Mar 26, 2025, 8:42 PM

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Depends on what settings you use

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This is only relevant if you have no bombchus, no strength and no bomb bag

rare oxide Mar 26, 2025, 9:38 PM

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Alright, mmx down!

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Short break then I’ll finish up Mario.

rare oxide Mar 28, 2025, 6:08 PM

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Yanno what, this Mario game just isn’t jivving with me. I keep dying and we’re at the end of the month. I think I’m just gonna drop it. Can practice in my own time and make another attempt another month.

fresh hill Mar 28, 2025, 6:09 PM

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was it the dragon coins? rdsnrk

rare oxide Mar 28, 2025, 6:10 PM

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Naw I wasn’t even doing those. World just moves weird.

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It’s been a loooong time since I last played through the whole thing, and I’ve always had problems with the movement lol

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I much prefer 3 but it wasn’t on the list. XD

fresh hill Mar 28, 2025, 7:27 PM

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currently trying to figure out if there's a way to make my Tunic .yaml randomly select a secondary weapon to give me early, but item plando is silently doing nothing...

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finally got it

midnight depot Mar 28, 2025, 7:54 PM

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Ooh, I was thinking about figuring out plando

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Please share

midnight depot Mar 28, 2025, 7:55 PM

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rare oxide Yanno what, this Mario game just isn’t jivving with me. I keep dying and we’re a...

Fair enough. Thanks for putting in the effort

rare oxide Mar 28, 2025, 7:56 PM

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Just so long as no one was stuck because of me, I had fun with it lol

midnight depot Mar 28, 2025, 8:33 PM

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Thanks for joining me in the Manechat Archipelago game for March 2025. This month, we had 19 games, 28 spheres, and 5226 locations. The playthrough file lists from last to first: @cold valve LADX, @dawn wigeon Symphony of the Night, @proven holly Factorio, @tender pelican FF1, @weary lagoon MM and Kirby Super Star, me with Ape Escape, Dessy with Outer Wilds and SMZ3, Llisandur with Tunic and FF4, me with Golden Sun, Dr. Romulus with Outer Wilds, @rare oxide with SMW and Mega Man X, Me with OoT, Octy with Starcraft 2 and Hollow Knight, Llisandur with Earthbound
Included is the spoiler log, game log, output file, YAML files. The room link was https://archipelago.gg/room/B5sAbvp3RyOX-OrCL9Q5kQ

📎 spoiler_log.txt 📎 game_log.txt 📎 YAMLsMarch2025.zip 📎 AP_80145330467199853360.zip

Archipelago

Multiworld B5sAbvp3RyOX-OrCL9Q5kQ

19 Players Multiworld
running on archipelago.gg with port 44549

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Hello, @here! I'm starting another Manechat Asynchronous Archipelago Game, with the intent of running until the end of April 2025. If you're interested, please read the list of available games https://archipelago.gg/games and pick one or more games to run (or browse the archipelago discord server for unsupported games!), then ping me so I can keep track of you and help you out with any problems. Let's try to make sure that you like the game you picked and can complete it by the end of the month!
The game will start March 31st or whenever everyone interested is ready.

In order to join, I will need the YAML files for whatever games you want to play. Please make sure you only join with a manageable workload, and the ability to play at least a little every four or so days. Don't make other people wait.

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I'll join with OoT, Ape Escape and Tunic.

lament tusk Mar 28, 2025, 8:36 PM

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oh hey!

fresh hill Mar 28, 2025, 8:36 PM

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midnight depot Please share

ah, it'll be in my yaml when I send them to you, which should be pretty soon

I'm currently playtesting the other mods I wanted to try for Nine Sols

lament tusk Mar 28, 2025, 8:36 PM

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i heard ww and mm were working now?

tender pelican Mar 28, 2025, 8:36 PM

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I'll check the list again, but I think I'll go with FF1, FF4, Earthbound, and LoZ LttP.

cold valve Mar 28, 2025, 8:37 PM

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I will play LADX and Outer Wilds, though i may do the OW DLC this time, i will decide over the weekend

lament tusk Mar 28, 2025, 8:37 PM

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i still need to play that at all

cold valve Mar 28, 2025, 8:37 PM

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It's fun

lament tusk Mar 28, 2025, 8:37 PM

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i know

slow moth Mar 28, 2025, 8:38 PM

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ooo, I wanna! Maybe with Minecraft this time

midnight depot Mar 28, 2025, 8:38 PM

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lament tusk i heard ww and mm were working now?

Wind Waker will be included in the supported game list on the next update. Majora's Mask "works" but it's only a small part of the game.

slow moth Mar 28, 2025, 8:38 PM

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tho I'm busy rn, so I'll talk later

lament tusk Mar 28, 2025, 8:39 PM

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oh wow, that updated?

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ok

midnight depot Mar 28, 2025, 8:39 PM

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slow moth ooo, I wanna! Maybe with Minecraft this time

Keep in mind Minecraft can be a huge hassle with archipelago. I've not heard a single person who had a good time with it.

lament tusk Mar 28, 2025, 8:39 PM

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ill need to do some experementing with it thin, been a very long time since i played it

slow moth Mar 28, 2025, 8:39 PM

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midnight depot Keep in mind Minecraft can be a huge hassle with archipelago. I've not heard a s...

huh, alr. I'll look into it

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didn't meant to ping sorry

midnight depot Mar 28, 2025, 8:40 PM

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Don't worry about it

proven holly Mar 28, 2025, 8:42 PM

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midnight depot Thanks for joining me in the Manechat Archipelago game for March 2025. This mont...

I'm sorry it put Factorio first??? I need to look at this file to see if the logic is broken for randomized science packs....

midnight depot Mar 28, 2025, 8:42 PM

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It put factorio LAST

proven holly Mar 28, 2025, 8:42 PM

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ah

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okay that makes sense

midnight depot Mar 28, 2025, 8:42 PM

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I'm going in reverse order!

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Also, I'm listing receivers rather than senders

lament tusk Mar 28, 2025, 8:43 PM

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sweet, does that mean we start with every item next time and loose them when we do all of its respective checks?

proven holly Mar 28, 2025, 8:44 PM

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I need to reevaluate what games I want to play, factorio didn't work out well this time and I'm kinda over HK for now lol. I'll get some yaml(s) by tomorrow

midnight depot Mar 28, 2025, 8:45 PM

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It feels like there's a set of settings that Factorio has which are fun, but I couldn't find it.

proven holly Mar 28, 2025, 8:48 PM

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I want to update and play with https://mods.factorio.com/mod/auto-resource-redux so it becomes not as much of a logistical challenge, but more of just a "go collect enough resource patches to run at 1000+ spm"

though maybe in a more constrained manner so I have to deliver stuff to my base, but can just abstract away the base as a box of machines

Factorio Mod Portal

Auto Resource Redux - Factorio Mods

Automatic resource distribution between machines - for RTS like/combat focused gameplay

midnight depot Mar 28, 2025, 8:49 PM

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Oh

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Well I'm more interested in the opposite

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I want to just make a base and not have to worry about delivering resources to it

proven holly Mar 28, 2025, 8:50 PM

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my work is too much logistical challenges already rn 😆

fresh hill Mar 28, 2025, 9:02 PM

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ok I've convinced myself these mods work

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though I will certainly be dying a lot this month

midnight depot Mar 28, 2025, 9:03 PM

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Sounds fun

fresh hill Mar 28, 2025, 9:06 PM

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ah wait I forgot to test the OW ones

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ok these work too, and I've updated my Tunic mod and poptracker

weary lagoon Mar 28, 2025, 9:20 PM

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not sure theres anything im too interested in before ttyd is ready

lament tusk Mar 28, 2025, 9:20 PM

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ooo ttyd

fresh hill Mar 28, 2025, 9:21 PM

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So in a lot of our previous asyncs, I played with relatively easy games or easy options so I'd have time to spare to work on my own randos. This month I want to finally stop doing that and go in the exact opposite direction. If you have death_link on, you've been warned.

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I'll be playing Outer Wilds, Nine Sols, Tunic. All 3 of my games are set to prog balancing: 35, accessibility: minimal, priority_locations for bosses et al, and death link on true/all_deaths.

Nine Sols will have the additional mods BossChallengeMod and EigongPrime
Tunic will have entrance rando and enemy rando, plus a bit of plando to force a secondary weapon or shield to be available early in the Overworld (not to make the game easier, but just so I won't spend half the game weaponless)
Outer Wilds will have Song of 6, DLC & all story mods & logsanity locations enabled, plus the additional mods Ernesto Chase and Ship Enhancements (on "Pandemonium" preset)
That ought to be enough to kill me several times a session.

lament tusk Mar 28, 2025, 9:22 PM

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hmmmm

bright hatch Mar 28, 2025, 9:48 PM

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if I can speedrun FE8 in the next 3 days I'm in, but I wouldn't count on it. i forgot i was doing that pinkiecrazy

rare oxide Mar 28, 2025, 9:56 PM

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I'll be doing mmx again and going to give link to the past a try. Generating the files now..

rare oxide Mar 28, 2025, 10:25 PM

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📎 ryans.zip

midnight depot Mar 28, 2025, 10:28 PM

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Thanks

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 12:54 AM

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Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "Generate.py", line 417, in handle_option
  File "Options.py", line 214, in from_any
  File "Options.py", line 210, in from_text
  File "Options.py", line 1420, in __init__
Exception: Option removed, please update your options file.

The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "Generate.py", line 194, in main
  File "Generate.py", line 194, in <genexpr>
  File "Generate.py", line 491, in roll_settings
  File "Generate.py", line 422, in handle_option
Options.OptionError: Error generating option logic_rules in TUNIC

The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "__startup__.py", line 141, in run
  File "console.py", line 25, in run
  File "Generate.py", line 533, in <module>
  File "Generate.py", line 213, in main
ValueError: File IxrecTunic.yaml is invalid. Please fix your yaml.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "Generate.py", line 417, in handle_option
  File "Options.py", line 214, in from_any
  File "Options.py", line 210, in from_text
  File "Options.py", line 1420, in __init__
Exception: Option removed, please update your options file.

The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "Generate.py", line 194, in main
  File "Generate.py", line 194, in <genexpr>
  File "Generate.py", line 491, in roll_settings
  File "Generate.py", line 422, in handle_option
Options.OptionError: Error generating option logic_rules in TUNIC

The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "__startup__.py", line 141, in run
  File "console.py", line 25, in run
  File "Generate.py", line 533, in <module>
  File "Generate.py", line 213, in main
ValueError: File IxrecTunic.yaml is invalid. Please fix your yaml.
Press enter to close.
```@fresh hill

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Here's your file

📎 IxrecTunic.yaml

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 12:54 AM

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huh, I tested generation of that on my side

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 12:54 AM

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I'm on this release of the randomizer, which was out this week

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https://github.com/silent-destroyer/tunic-randomizer/releases/tag/4.2.3

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 12:55 AM

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oh I was testing against the "supported" version in AP 0.5.0, I figured involving the apworld would only add more problems

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 12:55 AM

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Oh no, Llisandur was already giving me the new apworld

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 12:56 AM

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see this is why I don't want to become "supported", it actively creates new problems like this

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 12:56 AM

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That's true

tender pelican Mar 29, 2025, 12:56 AM

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There should be a new version out.

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 12:56 AM

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anyway, I had logic_rules: restricted which is just the default value, so if they axed that option probably just delete that line

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 12:56 AM

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Got it

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 12:57 AM

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tender pelican There should be a new version out.

I know there's an AP 0.5.1 but I believe that's far older than the Tunic rando 4.2.3 apworld? so I'm not sure which new version of what you mean here

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 12:57 AM

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In this situation, I'm playing with 4.2.3 because I want to shuffle fuses

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 12:57 AM

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oh right if we're doing this anyway then I should look at the new options

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 12:58 AM

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Here's the new template

📎 TUNIC_1.yaml

tender pelican Mar 29, 2025, 12:59 AM

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fresh hill I know there's an AP 0.5.1 but I believe that's far older than the Tunic rando 4...

I was running the version before that in the last set.

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 12:59 AM

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Ah, it's 4AM

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 1:00 AM

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ok, let's try this

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📎 Tunic.yaml

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I guess now I'm wondering what we're supposed to do in general to avoid submitting conflicting versions of the same game

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 1:02 AM

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Great question

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 1:02 AM

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though maybe Tunic is the only one we play that's "supported" yet also puts out apworlds?

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 1:03 AM

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My initial heuristic is I'd go by whatever version the players prefer, picking the newer in case of conflict.

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 1:03 AM

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my impression is most "supported" games are not as actively supported and updated (sometimes not supported at all), so they don't have a newer version than AP 0.5.1 anyway

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 1:03 AM

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It generates fine now!

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 1:03 AM

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cool

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in this case I didn't care strongly about any of the new stuff so I thought supported would be easier, but lol

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~~clearly my bias towards "unsupported" games was not strong enough~~

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 1:04 AM

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I loooove adding more spheres to my games

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 1:12 AM

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yeah fuse/bell shuffle does seem like a win

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if only because it's different from the last time I randomized Tunic

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this might also play nicer with entrance rando anyway; I still need to remember how to get back to a fuse after I have the ability for it, but I don't need to worry about what that fuse unlocks in a potentially faraway undiscovered part of the ER graph

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 1:14 AM

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I have encountered a couple of softlocks in fuse shuffle

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That's why the new version starts you with the torch

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Also, fuses are not shuffled with each other!

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They are turned into items and shuffled with all items. Possessing that item enables the fuse it's tied to

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 1:15 AM

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oh you mean dead ends, not actual softlocks

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I was gonna get the torch anyway since I turned on ER

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 1:16 AM

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midnight depot They are turned into items and shuffled with all items. Possessing that item ena...

yeah I got that part, that's why I say I don't have to worry so much about what it unlocks

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 1:16 AM

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I mean actual softlocks where you cannot proceed without resetting the save

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 1:16 AM

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uh

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 1:16 AM

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That was before the torch was added

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 1:17 AM

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so was the torch comment about fuse shuffle or something else

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 1:17 AM

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Yes! Sorry

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 1:17 AM

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oh you were talking about two versions of fuse shuffle

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ok this is still an option I only learned about a few hours ago I have no idea how long it's been out

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 1:17 AM

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Yeah. I tested my practice game on a version before torch was added and run into softlocks and that's why I'm glad you start with a torch

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 1:18 AM

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ok they were legit softlocks because there was no torch at the time

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 1:18 AM

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Fuse shuffle has been out for like, a few weeks? And the torch was added a few days ago

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 1:18 AM

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and now they're just regular rando dead ends?

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 1:18 AM

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Well they're not regular

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They're one-way paths

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 1:18 AM

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I mean regular in the sense that basically every AP rando is permitted to and theoretically capable of doing that, they just vary in how often it comes up in practice

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 1:19 AM

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For example, using orb I was able to get into quarry, collect all the checks there, but since I rested in the save shrine there I couldn't get out

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In ocarina of time, it is impossible to get into that situation.

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In the quarry softlock, I couldn't leave because I didn't have the ladders needed to return to the overworld

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 1:20 AM

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right, ER can also lead to some inescapable one-ways that contain save points which is why ER gives the torch

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 1:20 AM

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Honestly, Tunic should just have benchwarping

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 1:20 AM

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every time I suggest that in an AP game that doesn't have it I get told no lol

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 1:21 AM

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Maybe like

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 1:21 AM

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anyway I'm pretty sure 9S has a bunch of dead ends and that's why I added benchwarping

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 1:21 AM

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Pray behind each shrine to go to far shore

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 1:22 AM

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OW is a subjective case where depending on your interpretation either its design precludes the possibility of dead ends, or it obviously has tons of dead ends but also a vanilla warp to spawn that makes them not a problem I ever needed to worry about while modding it

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 1:23 AM

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https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/8mGXaTXXyOcWq_h73uOgX7ubXzzjSvapqAxE1u40vLs/https/i.imgur.com/7o68Jmb.png
In this spot I had shield and orb only, and I spent my last bomb. I couldn't get past the bushes

Imgur

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The solution was to close the game and start it over, then use the orb to pull an enemy and get it to kill me

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Saving and quitting would place me in the secret room entrance, and if I had used all my MP, the only way I could leave would be to go into settings and turn on "remove early bushes"

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 1:26 AM

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hm

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that seems like a dead end even on default settings?

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 1:26 AM

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Yeah

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 1:26 AM

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though I guess the overall logic of the rando assumes the bushes are a non-issue

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 1:27 AM

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fresh hill though I guess the overall logic of the rando assumes the bushes are a non-issue

Which is one of my biggest issues because bush logic would be so fun to puzzle out

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In the quarry softlock, I managed to escape by exhaustively searching the quarry until I happened to find a fuse that allowed me to get to far shore

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 1:28 AM

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my understanding was that if bushes were a logical barrier it'd just be a sphere 1 vs 2 thing and also you'd have to just ignore or rework the free bombs or the enemy manips and yeah that already sounds like nowhere near worth it

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 1:28 AM

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Oh right, Tunic now has combat logic

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 1:29 AM

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I think that was new the last time I randomized it

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 1:29 AM

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It guarantees you get high enough stats before you're expected to fight hard enemies. I don't think I want it

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 1:31 AM

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I never personally felt the need for it in all my past rando runs

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when I was active in the Tunic AP chat, the (easier) combat logic was explicitly framed as helping players of lower skill levels than us; it was kind of a given that Scipio and I and so on would probably never use it

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 1:32 AM

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Well with enemy rando on it might be good

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 1:32 AM

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enemy rando is a client/mod feature so it can't interact with (easier) combat logic

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 1:32 AM

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That sucks

fresh hill Mar 29, 2025, 1:33 AM

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eh

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being able to turn enemy rando on and off at any moment is also pretty nice

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and these two kinds of enemy rando are mutually exclusive features

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anyway that's getting speculative now, maybe a question for the AP channel but not relevant to setting up our own game

dawn wigeon Mar 29, 2025, 3:28 AM

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I will not be participating this month

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Good luck!

midnight depot Mar 29, 2025, 3:58 PM

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Hello

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Two days to go. I have eight games in

midnight depot Mar 30, 2025, 12:12 PM

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Hi. I'm still waiting on YAMLs from @cold valve, @tender pelican, @slow moth, @lament tusk you still intend to join. Octy did not express interest but I'd love to have her. Plucky said it's unlikely she'll be reading in time. Artiks said he might skip for this month. I think that's everyone who talked in the thread.

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As a reminder we're starting the game tomorrow if possible, on March 31st

fresh hill Mar 30, 2025, 1:54 PM

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for boring technical reasons I had to put out another tiny OW release today, but it has no effect on the validity of anyone's yamls; it's probably best to use the new 0.3.13 apworld when we generate this just so nobody gets the "this was generated with an old version" warnings in-game

midnight depot Mar 30, 2025, 2:35 PM

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I'll update it

proven holly Mar 30, 2025, 5:38 PM

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@midnight depot I'm just gonna do SC2 this time around, i severely weighted it down in progression balancing and tweaked some things so it hopefully lasts longer :P

📎 octySC2.yaml

midnight depot Mar 30, 2025, 5:38 PM

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Yes ma'am

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YAML's in and generating correctly

cold valve Mar 30, 2025, 6:02 PM

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I will submit mine tonight

weary lagoon Mar 30, 2025, 6:09 PM

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ill consider my options

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Games I've played before
OoT
MM
Wind Waker
Pokemon Crystal
Pokemon Emerald
Super Mario Sunshine
Paper Mario
Kirby Super Star
Hollow Knight

The only other game Im considering is Twilight Princess. TTYD is coming out this week and I would love to do that, and Majoras Mask is getting the big update soon. Minish Cap will also be ready in not too long.

cold valve Mar 30, 2025, 6:14 PM

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midnight depot Hi. I'm still waiting on YAMLs from <@221742476153716736>, <@123376337212669952>...

here you go, i believe ixrec already sent an updated outer wilds apworld

📎 dr_rOWmulus.yaml 📎 La_DxRomulus.yaml

slow moth Mar 30, 2025, 6:51 PM

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midnight depot Hi. I'm still waiting on YAMLs from <@221742476153716736>, <@123376337212669952>...

Changes of plans, Minecraft does seem like a bit more set-up than I have time for rn, but I got the next best thing. Plus Undertale again

📎 Clearraria.yaml 📎 UnderClearr.yaml

lament tusk Mar 30, 2025, 8:38 PM

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I was gonna enter but I've done absolutely no updating of yamls or thinking about games to play
I haven't even gotten out of bed today tbh

midnight depot Mar 30, 2025, 9:15 PM

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You still have until tomorrow

tender pelican Mar 31, 2025, 4:28 AM

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📎 Llisandur.zip

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Decided to drop FF1 because I looked at the options page and just felt like I didn't want ot mess with it this time. Trying Super Metroid instead.

midnight depot Mar 31, 2025, 8:15 AM

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weary lagoon Games I've played before OoT MM Wind Waker Pokemon Crystal Pokemon Emerald Super...

You should play Banjo-Tooie

midnight depot Mar 31, 2025, 8:28 AM

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tender pelican

What's up with this zip? There's another FF4 zip in there? Also, I get an error while generating

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Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "__startup__.py", line 141, in run
  File "console.py", line 25, in run
  File "Generate.py", line 535, in <module>
  File "Main.py", line 207, in main
  File "worlds\AutoWorld.py", line 181, in call_all
  File "worlds\AutoWorld.py", line 171, in call_single
  File "worlds\AutoWorld.py", line 164, in call_single
  File "worlds\AutoWorld.py", line 150, in _timed_call
  File "C:\ProgramData\Archipelago\custom_worlds\ff4fe.apworld\ff4fe\__init__.py", line 409, in pre_fill
    location_set = set(self.get_locations()) - {self.get_location(location) for location in major_locations}
                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "worlds\AutoWorld.py", line 341, in __getattr__
AttributeError: . Did you mean: 'get_location'?
Exception in <bound method FF4FEWorld.pre_fill of <worlds.ff4fe.FF4FEWorld object at 0x0000028C62AFD3A0>> for player 10, named LlisandurFF4.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "__startup__.py", line 141, in run
  File "console.py", line 25, in run
  File "Generate.py", line 535, in <module>
  File "Main.py", line 207, in main
  File "worlds\AutoWorld.py", line 181, in call_all
  File "worlds\AutoWorld.py", line 171, in call_single
  File "worlds\AutoWorld.py", line 164, in call_single
  File "worlds\AutoWorld.py", line 150, in _timed_call
  File "C:\ProgramData\Archipelago\custom_worlds\ff4fe.apworld\ff4fe\__init__.py", line 409, in pre_fill
  File "worlds\AutoWorld.py", line 341, in __getattr__
AttributeError. Did you mean: 'get_location'?
Exception in <bound method FF4FEWorld.pre_fill of <worlds.ff4fe.FF4FEWorld object at 0x0000028C62AFD3A0>> for player 10, named LlisandurFF4.

Press enter to close.```

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Thread suggests I need to be on the archipelago release candidate

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Ah, now I get like thirty errors

weary lagoon Mar 31, 2025, 8:40 AM

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I havent played banjo kazooie or tooie vanilla

midnight depot Mar 31, 2025, 8:42 AM

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Sounds like a fun challenge then

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Okay, I fixed them

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I got rid of outdated versions of ender lilies, dark souls 3, pseudoregalia, tunic, the wind waker. Now I have one error left

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@cold valve LADX updated with archipelago 0.6.0. Can you update your YAML? Warp improvements got remade into this:

  warps:
    # [Improved] Adds remake style warp screen to the game. Choose your warp destination on the map after jumping in a portal and press B to select.
    # [Improved Additional] Improved warps, and adds a warp point at Crazy Tracy's house (the Mambo teleport spot) and Eagle's Tower.
    vanilla: 50
    improved: 0
    improved_additional: 0```
so it won't generate with your old YAML

📎 message.txt

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Enclosed is the new template file for you to refer to as needed

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Also, here's a link to 0.6.0 RC3. #731214280439103580 message

fresh hill Mar 31, 2025, 10:52 AM

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oh we're doing the RC

midnight depot Mar 31, 2025, 10:55 AM

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Well I didn't initially want to but it made it so FF4fe worked

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And according to my earlier heuristics, it wins over

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Also, I heard talk that RC3 is probably getting released tomorrow as-is

fresh hill Mar 31, 2025, 11:34 AM

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ah, you're more in the loop than I am then

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I didn't even know the RC number was at 3

midnight depot Mar 31, 2025, 11:36 AM

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And I only knew because the FF4fe thread said I gotta get RC3

fresh hill Mar 31, 2025, 11:38 AM

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if we're that close to a full release, I'll probably wait for the official version to do a fresh install on my end

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not like I need much from the 0.5.0 tools today

midnight depot Mar 31, 2025, 11:39 AM

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I don't think you need to update to play

fresh hill Mar 31, 2025, 11:39 AM

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yeah, none of my games involve an in-repo client program

cold valve Mar 31, 2025, 12:29 PM

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Ah crap are we on 0.6.0 now? I won't be able to update anything until after work, in about 11 hours

midnight depot Mar 31, 2025, 12:32 PM

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Don't worry about it

tender pelican Mar 31, 2025, 12:32 PM

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Ah, sorry. I forgot the latest version of FF4E required the update. You can ignore the other FF4E zip, it's not needed for generating.

midnight depot Mar 31, 2025, 12:32 PM

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We can just generate when you have a YAML ready

lament tusk Mar 31, 2025, 1:31 PM

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Don't wait up for me
I'm busy all day, and when I get home im gonna be suuuuuuper tired
Ping me when everyone else is ready, if I don't reply in 30 mins then go ahead without me

fresh hill Mar 31, 2025, 1:34 PM

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is it just Rom and Mega left?

midnight depot Mar 31, 2025, 1:34 PM

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Artiks might decide to join

fresh hill Mar 31, 2025, 1:35 PM

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Rom, Mega and Quantum Artiks, okay

weary lagoon Mar 31, 2025, 4:26 PM

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So we should update AP?

fresh hill Mar 31, 2025, 4:26 PM

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that's probably unnecessary

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especially if AP 0.6.0 is going to get its proper, non-RC release in the next few days

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but technically it's possible one of the supported games did something weird to make it matter, I just really hope not

lament tusk Mar 31, 2025, 4:29 PM

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hi im home now

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very very tired tho

fresh hill Mar 31, 2025, 4:29 PM

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lament tusk Mar 31, 2025, 4:29 PM

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got no sleep then was tapped into helping move a bunch of stuff

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so

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very worn out

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i do mean no sleep

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right

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so im hearing theres a new AP release in a few days? should we wait till that comes out before playing?

tender pelican Mar 31, 2025, 4:31 PM

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I think it only affects FF4.

lament tusk Mar 31, 2025, 4:31 PM

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if not, what yamls did i use last time? oot and subnautica i think

fresh hill Mar 31, 2025, 4:31 PM

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historically, no, they're very bad at coming out with any predictable regularity

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people have tried waiting in the past and ended up delaying stuff by multiple weeks

lament tusk Mar 31, 2025, 4:32 PM

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ah

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fair enough

fresh hill Mar 31, 2025, 4:32 PM

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the only reason it's relevant to us is that one of the games submitted happened to require AP 0.6.0 RC3

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which is expected to be pretty much identical to AP 0.6.0 full stop whenever that does come out

cold valve Mar 31, 2025, 4:33 PM

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I'm still not sure what the warp change is for ladx

fresh hill Mar 31, 2025, 4:33 PM

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so Flitter will probably use RC3 to generate this, but unless one of your games has a maintainer that sucks at back-compat, it shouldn't matter

cold valve Mar 31, 2025, 4:33 PM

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I went and looked at the settings on the site, nothing looked different

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In either case, i don't care what that setting actually ends up being, worst case i have to go the long way to level 7 on subsequent visits, if I even have to go more than once

fresh hill Mar 31, 2025, 4:35 PM

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if you mean http://archipelago.gg, that's presumably still on 0.5.1

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the beta site http://archipelago.gg:24242/ appears to be up, so that might be running 0.6.0 RC3

tender pelican Mar 31, 2025, 4:36 PM

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Do I need to scroll back and get the last 5.1 FF4E apworld?

cold valve Mar 31, 2025, 4:36 PM

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If y'all are just waiting for my ladx yaml just edit that setting to anything

fresh hill Mar 31, 2025, 4:37 PM

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I don't think Flitter's on atm anyway

cold valve Mar 31, 2025, 4:37 PM

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So i guess in the future i have to go do a deep dive to see if my games have updated yamls?? I guess just going to the actual-ass site isn't good enough?

fresh hill Mar 31, 2025, 4:38 PM

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you are beginning to understand my frustration with the system

lament tusk Mar 31, 2025, 4:39 PM

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cold valve So i guess in the future i have to go do a deep dive to see if my games have upd...

...sometimes?

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i think?

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tho as i understand it the ones you download and edit manually have more options anyway

tender pelican Mar 31, 2025, 4:40 PM

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I only send updates for the ones I know updated or aren't part of the built-in systems.

lament tusk Mar 31, 2025, 4:41 PM

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like i cant exclude 1500 archery and dampe's race on oot via the site, have to type that in myself

fresh hill Mar 31, 2025, 4:41 PM

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I know they were doing work to allow excluding locations on the site, not sure what the status of that is

proven holly Mar 31, 2025, 4:42 PM

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cold valve So i guess in the future i have to go do a deep dive to see if my games have upd...

as i understand it this is a one-off occurrence due to flitter updating to an RC for FF4, so generally no

lament tusk Mar 31, 2025, 4:46 PM

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anyway
when flitter comes back, i think my last yamls were oot and subnautica
those should still be valid and good settings
could you just run with those please?
im gonna go nap

cold valve Mar 31, 2025, 10:30 PM

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midnight depot <@221742476153716736> LADX updated with archipelago 0.6.0. Can you update your Y...

i think this should generate

📎 La_DxRomulus.yaml

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 6:29 AM

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Hi

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 6:47 AM

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lament tusk anyway when flitter comes back, i think my last yamls were oot and subnautica th...

I'll see if I still have them, but you should keep the files on your computer if you want to guarantee that you can use them again

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I think you used the following files in January 2025, so I'll copy them over

📎 Meganought_OoT.yaml 📎 Meganought_Subnautica.yaml

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 6:50 AM

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lament tusk like i cant exclude 1500 archery and dampe's race on oot via the site, have to t...

You can now. There's an option on the site

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Am I missing anyone? https://i.imgur.com/anRxtQA.png

Imgur

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 7:37 AM

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Let's do a final check to see if I'm missing any files: Artiks, Clearrpony, Dr Romulus, Flitter, Ixrec, Llisandur, Meganought, Octy, Ryan.

lament tusk Apr 1, 2025, 7:44 AM

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midnight depot I'll see if I still have them, but you should keep the files on your computer if...

When I asked that I was running on fumes, and assuming you wanted to start soon
If I had more energy I would have found them in my files myself or made new ones, but I didn't
Still tired today btw, I definitely got sleep but I think I'm ill now

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 7:44 AM

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I hope you recover

lament tusk Apr 1, 2025, 7:45 AM

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Maybe I just pushed myself too hard yesterday

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Definitely not feeling 100%

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 8:01 AM

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Ah fuck me

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0.6.0 is incompatible with site hosting

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Apparently, Hint Status is a new archipelago feature that the site doesn't know what to do with

proven holly Apr 1, 2025, 8:10 AM

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rip

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fwiw it sounds like 0.6.0 is out in under 24 hours #731214280439103580 message

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 8:13 AM

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Yep!

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 8:33 AM

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midnight depot Apparently, Hint Status is a new archipelago feature that the site doesn't know ...

wow, they really bombed the backwards compatibility with this one

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I had to do two separate updates to OW for hint status and it can’t even work with the old webhost

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 8:35 AM

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You'd think it'd just fall back into a safe default

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 8:35 AM

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exactly

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hints are “just” objects in AP’s DataStorage, they have far more than enough machinery to simply ignore an unfamiliar field

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 12:20 PM

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Is this the fabled 0.6.0? ponkthonkers

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(a little more clarity would be appreciated sweetiegrump )

slow moth Apr 1, 2025, 12:21 PM

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It is April first

lament tusk Apr 1, 2025, 12:21 PM

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oh wait

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remember the date

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yeah

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 12:23 PM

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It is the update, yeah

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Archipelago always updates on April 1st around this time

lament tusk Apr 1, 2025, 12:23 PM

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oh

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 12:24 PM

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They also get a bonus game near April 1st!

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Archipidle

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 12:24 PM

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Archipelago was originally created as an april fools' joke

slow moth Apr 1, 2025, 12:24 PM

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Ah, makes sense then

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 12:37 PM

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now it's time to update your local AP installs

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(I will when I get home)

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 12:37 PM

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Hell yeah

lament tusk Apr 1, 2025, 12:38 PM

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sweet WW is here
ill dick around with that in a bit

slow moth Apr 1, 2025, 12:38 PM

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Are we updaing for the game?

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 12:38 PM

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You probably don't need to update

slow moth Apr 1, 2025, 12:43 PM

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Alright

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 12:45 PM

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Then again

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Maybe the hint priority system would break the old clients

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Only way to find out is to try

tender pelican Apr 1, 2025, 12:47 PM

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Remember to set the execution permissions when downloading a new program. XD (Linux things)

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 12:48 PM

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yeah, there's been enough breakage already that we were semi-forced to wait for this release, so now that we can't trust it to have the usual back-compat it's probably better to assume we need to update

slow moth Apr 1, 2025, 12:50 PM

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How do I update it? Do I install a new installation?

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 12:51 PM

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yeah, just running the AP installer is all you need to update the core tools

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I guess if you never installed the core tools at all then you can simply ignore this

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atm my main worry is unsupported games that weren't told they needed to update (I did updates for Outer Wilds and Nine Sols, but I got kinda lucky that even heard I needed to do anything)

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 12:58 PM

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Ooh, ladx has new options

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    Hard Mode: None, Oracle, Hero, One Hit KO
    Quickswap: Use Select to quickswap your A or B slot with the top inventory item
    Text Mode: Normal, Fast
    Low HP Beep: Normal, Slow, None
    NoFlash: removes flashing lights

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The last two are some of the reasons I can't watch the game for long

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 1:39 PM

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so, should we expect the April game to get generated later today?

(or more concretely for me: should I plan on AP games when I get home, or plan on a 2nd Grim Fandango session? wouldn't want to be deep into the latter right when this starts)

lament tusk Apr 1, 2025, 1:40 PM

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lament tusk sweet WW is here ill dick around with that in a bit

nvm its hard so i cant be bothered right now

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 1:46 PM

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Oh uh

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I should probably update and generate right now

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I was wondering whether anyone wanted time or wanted to change their settings or something, but I don't think it's a big deal either way

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 1:48 PM

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yeah I think most of us were just waiting on the last few players and then these technical issues

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 1:50 PM

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Archipidle is now available but it doesn't seem like a good fit for an async https://archipelago.gg/games/ArchipIDLE/info/en

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 1:51 PM

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same, my understanding was that "idle games" are mostly for syncs where everyone is expected to be present at the same time for the full duration of the sync

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 1:51 PM

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Well I want one that takes 40 hours

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 1:51 PM

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oh this is a different kind of idle game

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 2:03 PM

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Okay

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Take 6 or whatever

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Game is on https://archipelago.gg/room/KLawocoVROOHTPHUnRzlQQ

Archipelago

Multiworld KLawocoVROOHTPHUnRzlQQ

20 Players Multiworld
running on archipelago.gg with port 60966

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Pin updated

weary lagoon Apr 1, 2025, 2:09 PM

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we started?

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you havent pinged us...

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is this a real start..

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 2:09 PM

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Do you want me to ping you?

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I was feeling a bunch of people were annoyed at the moment so I decided not to

lament tusk Apr 1, 2025, 2:09 PM

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I demand you ping arti

lament tusk Apr 1, 2025, 2:10 PM

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midnight depot I was feeling a bunch of people were annoyed at the moment so I decided not to

I don't think so? Confused maybe

weary lagoon Apr 1, 2025, 2:10 PM

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Im a mod today so if anyone is annoyed at you ill ban them

tender pelican Apr 1, 2025, 2:11 PM

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We need the unsupported game patches, please.

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 2:11 PM

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Oh right

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That's the thing I was forgetting

weary lagoon Apr 1, 2025, 2:12 PM

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Llisandur my goat about to clear 60% of final fantasy day 1 and find my hammer

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 2:12 PM

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Here you go

📎 AP_87886329322906527026_P19_ryanmmx.apmmx 📎 AP_87886329322906527026_P12_LlisandurFF4.apff4fe 📎 AP_87886329322906527026_P1_ArtiPM.appm64 📎 AP_87886329322906527026_P15_LlisandurMom.apeb

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Why would you ever want a hammer in paper mario

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Bouncing is obviously superior

weary lagoon Apr 1, 2025, 2:12 PM

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to break blocks in the overworld

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 2:13 PM

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Just clip them or something

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Am I missing any patches? What unsupported games do we have?

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weary lagoon Apr 1, 2025, 2:23 PM

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450 checks in Paper Mario? it must count the checks I turned off too

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 2:24 PM

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Did you turn the checks off?

weary lagoon Apr 1, 2025, 2:24 PM

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yeah I turned off lots of stuff

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but some games still show em

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its just all junk / vanilla

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 2:24 PM

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These are your settings:

📎 message.txt

weary lagoon Apr 1, 2025, 2:25 PM

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i know

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 2:25 PM

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Good!

weary lagoon Apr 1, 2025, 2:25 PM

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Letter Delivery Rewards: Vanilla
Shuffle Super/Multicoin Blocks: No
Shuffle Coin Blocks: No
Shuffle Foliage Coins: No
Shuffle Overworld Coins: No
Shuffle Favor Coins: No
Koopa Koot Favors: Vanilla
Include Trading Event Rewards: No

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all of this is disabled

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 2:26 PM

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Also just in case someone else randomized their settings, here's everyone's settings:

📎 message.txt

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Let's play Tunic

weary lagoon Apr 1, 2025, 2:31 PM

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i need to take a shower first

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 2:31 PM

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Tunic is first because it has April Fools features

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Shit, I didn't shuffle fuses and bells?

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I really thought I did

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Excuse me? https://i.imgur.com/sRZq3hj.png

Imgur

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Oh!

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It's shuffling ALL breakables

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FlitterTUNC sent Scavenger Mask to Ixfox (Overworld - [Northwest] Chest Near Quarry Gate) This game is easy

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FlitterTUNC sent Mobile Vehicle Bay Fragment to Meganoughtica (Overworld - [Northwest] Chest Near Turret)

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Thank you for defense down

cold valve Apr 1, 2025, 2:47 PM

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I prefer to be pinged on game starts

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 2:47 PM

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Got it

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I'll make sure to ping everyone next time. In fact. Let's ping everyone now

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@slow moth @fresh hill , @proven holly , @rare oxide The game is up! See pins for links, and #1119170161518334004 message for patches

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Shop items! https://i.imgur.com/YRYosmW.png

Imgur

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Also, you can set hint priority in-archipelago, so cheese tracker is less necessary

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 2:57 PM

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midnight depot `FlitterTUNC sent Scavenger Mask to Ixfox (Overworld - [Northwest] Chest Near Qu...

wow that was fast, I might not even have a path to quarry yet

tender pelican Apr 1, 2025, 2:58 PM

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LttP is like playing Tunic. My only weapon is bombs. XD

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 2:58 PM

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what was cheese tracker actually? somehow I completely missed why that's a thing

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 3:00 PM

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It's like uh

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Just open the page and find out

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It allows people to communicate about their games without having to talk

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Indicate hint priority, whether you're in BK mode

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And so on

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Also good for indicating ping etiquette

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 3:01 PM

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oh, interesting

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part of why I asked is I did open the page a while back and couldn't figure out what was special about it

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 3:02 PM

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Makes sense. It doesn't explain itself and it's easy to assume it's just a tracker

tender pelican Apr 1, 2025, 3:10 PM

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Hm, it seems they fixed the Linux port of the text client. It's no longer using massive resources and causing my fans to spin up.

weary lagoon Apr 1, 2025, 3:14 PM

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Rom is gonna lose his fkn mind when he sees that his feather is in my starting shop

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 3:17 PM

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FlitterTUNC sent Carrier to octy_SC2 (Overworld - [Southwest] Tunnel Guarded By Turret)

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Tunic is in BK mode.

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Tomorrow I'll play Ape Escape and OoT

rare oxide Apr 1, 2025, 3:42 PM

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fresh hill what was cheese tracker actually? somehow I completely missed why that's a thing

I was filled in about that by Dessyreqt just last week lol

cold valve Apr 1, 2025, 3:43 PM

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weary lagoon Rom is gonna lose his fkn mind when he sees that his feather is in my starting s...

ponkUWAT

rare oxide Apr 1, 2025, 3:43 PM

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midnight depot I'll make sure to ping everyone next time. In fact. Let's ping everyone now

I have been pinged. Thank you. Everything looks good so far.

weary lagoon Apr 1, 2025, 3:44 PM

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thats why they call him Ryan W

rare oxide Apr 1, 2025, 3:44 PM

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It is? XD

rare oxide Apr 1, 2025, 4:38 PM

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Link to the past. Oh dear, what have I gotten myself into? XD

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I have no weapons, the bushes have mines in them, and all the shopkeepers want rupies!

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Welp, that house had a bunch of stars!

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 4:41 PM

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Yes! aLttP is intimidating.

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I recommend an auto tracker to let you know what you can reach

weary lagoon Apr 1, 2025, 4:46 PM

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Paper Mario in BK

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I need a hammer

rare oxide Apr 1, 2025, 4:53 PM

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Alright, done with that. Looting the village was lucrative, lots of items found.

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Hmm I’m not able to open the mmx patch with the 0.60 client…

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 4:58 PM

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I generated the game with the 0.6 client

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Can you ask in the thread for the game?

tender pelican Apr 1, 2025, 4:58 PM

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Can you send Ryan the MMX apworld file that you used to generate? He's using a new install.

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 4:59 PM

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Oh

rare oxide Apr 1, 2025, 5:00 PM

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I’m missing a step apparently. XD

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Sorry about that.

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 5:00 PM

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📎 mmx.apworld

rare oxide Apr 1, 2025, 5:00 PM

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Thank you!

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 5:01 PM

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Let me know if you figure it out

rare oxide Apr 1, 2025, 5:06 PM

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Good to go! Thank you!

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I am VERY not used to killing things with lemons. :/

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OMG THE PENGUIN HAS LIKE A MILLION HEALTH!

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It doesn’t even fit on the screen! lmao

tender pelican Apr 1, 2025, 5:18 PM

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Lol.

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 5:31 PM

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ok, finally back home, installed AP 0.6.0

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I'm gonna do Nine Sols, Outer Wilds and Tunic in that order, because OW has random spawn and Tunic has entrance rando, and I'd like to go in ascending order of early game weirdness

rare oxide Apr 1, 2025, 5:32 PM

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Aaaand penguin down. Wall jump cheesed him to death.

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Okay, beating million hp penguin with lemons was satisfying. Time to do get something done for today.

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 5:35 PM

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you know, fair, this might be the platonic ideal way of start this trio of games

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 5:38 PM

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Do tunic first

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Tunic has an April Fools joke

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 5:39 PM

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I'll get to it

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 5:39 PM

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Oh okay you'll do all three today

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 5:40 PM

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yeah I want to do a few checks in each, maybe all the sphere 1s

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9S especially since, for now, the first few areas are always the same, best get that out of the way

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Ixcat sent Small Key (Palace of Darkness) to LlisandurLttP (AF (Monitoring): Lower Vent)

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I'm quite pleased that this extra challenge mod managed to make the tutorial area kill me already, normally I sleepwalk through this room

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on the flip side, receiving Steely Jade this early is gonna make it much easier

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2 deaths

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Ixcat sent Cyclops Hull Fragment to Meganoughtica (AF (Elevator): Defeat Red Tiger Elite: Baichang)
and that's Nine Sols' tutorial miniboss down, despite all the modded challenge modifiers, which means I'm just about finished with sphere 1 here

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how many cyclops hulls does that game need again?

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@rare oxide how important are "boomer kuwanger access codes"?

tender pelican Apr 1, 2025, 6:06 PM

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That allows access to the level. Can't get any checks there without it.

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 6:06 PM

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cool

proven holly Apr 1, 2025, 6:06 PM

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sets progression balancing to 10 to try and slow down sc2
rando gives me 5 terran units immediately, and one of the most powerful protoss units (carrier)

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 6:07 PM

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it's easy to forget, but prog balancing will only move prog items earlier in a seed; if they all randomly end up early anyway then prog balancing has no effect

proven holly Apr 1, 2025, 6:07 PM

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ah, i never saw an explanation of how it worked

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 6:08 PM

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I have seen many explanations and most of them are wrong

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also I never read the code so I can't claim to know wtf I'm talking about really

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anyway, on to OW

proven holly Apr 1, 2025, 6:15 PM

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octy_SC2 sent Flask Shard to FlitterTUNC (Sky Shield: West Raynor Base)
octy_SC2 sent Multipurpose Room to Meganoughtica (Sky Shield: Northwest Stabilizer)

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@lament tusk do you need your Gold Skulltula Tokens or are those still trash this time around

lament tusk Apr 1, 2025, 6:16 PM

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I haven't started my games yet to check but odds are likely

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 6:18 PM

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lol, I'm so glad I didn't spoil my spawn planet for myself, somehow I literally forgot this one was even an option

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IxrecOW sent Broom to La DxRomulus (EotE Ship Log: River Lowlands 1 - Visit)

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IxrecOW sent King Banana to LlisandurMom (EotE Ship Log: Lowlands Slide Reel 1 - Origin)

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OW sphere 1 cleared

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~~my UT failed on my Tunic slot, unsure if serious/real issue, reported to UT thread~~ false alarm, I just hadn't downloaded the beta apworld

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@cold valve how important is a "honeycomb"?

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I guess we're all getting early swords for our foxes this month

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 7:01 PM

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Nooo

cold valve Apr 1, 2025, 7:01 PM

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fresh hill <@221742476153716736> how important is a "honeycomb"?

it gives 1 check, non-critical

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 7:01 PM

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My puzzle!

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I knew I should have plandoed one sword upgrade on each boss

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 7:02 PM

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I might do that next time

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 7:02 PM

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Also, I can't believe you have recent items on

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It stays on-screen forever and I can't help but read it over and over

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 7:02 PM

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I only learned it exists five minutes ago, I haven't formed an opinion on it

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 7:03 PM

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If it stayed for like thirty seconds max that would be fine

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 7:03 PM

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my plando rolled a shield, gtk

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also: for once these telescopes are useful

tender pelican Apr 1, 2025, 7:04 PM

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It never bothered me. I just tune it out. XD

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 7:04 PM

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now back to entrance mapping

tender pelican Apr 1, 2025, 7:04 PM

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Don't send too much spoilery stuff, Ryan hasn't beat Tunic yet.

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 7:05 PM

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Arachnophobia mode on

proven holly Apr 1, 2025, 7:07 PM

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octy_SC2 sent Glass Cannon to FlitterTUNC (Amon's Reach: South Launch Bay)
octy_SC2 sent Blue Boomerang to LlisandurLttP (Amon's Reach: Victory)

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 7:09 PM

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Hell yeah

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 7:09 PM

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midnight depot Arachnophobia mode on

I figured it'd be funny

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 7:10 PM

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With a sword, glass cannon, and the perfume, I'm going to kill so many enemies in one hit

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 7:12 PM

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oh good the auto-hint setting seems to work

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found a hint for one of Rom's OW translators and it's in AP now

fresh hill Apr 1, 2025, 7:31 PM

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I think I'll stop there

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Tunic's already ahead of my other two slots, and it's unfortunately in a laggy mood today, so the harder combat encounters generated by enemy rando are not appealing atm

midnight depot Apr 1, 2025, 7:44 PM

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Funny

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I'm getting 20-40 in most of Tunic but no lag spikes

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Result is it's fine (except in frog's domain shrine room)

proven holly Apr 2, 2025, 6:19 AM

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octy_SC2 sent Star Piece to ArtiPM (Zero Hour: Cavalry's on the Way)
octy_SC2 sent Nomai Warp Codes to IxrecOW (Zero Hour: Victory)

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not having terran armor makes doing some parts of this Difficult for sure

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octy_SC2 sent Water Stone to ArtiPM (Cutthroat: Mid Relic)
octy_SC2 sent Star Piece to ArtiPM (Cutthroat: North Command Center)
octy_SC2 sent East Bell to Ixfox (Cutthroat: Southwest Relic)
octy_SC2 sent Triforce Piece to ryanspast (Cutthroat: Victory)

midnight depot Apr 2, 2025, 9:04 AM

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Hi

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Let's play Ape Escape

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FlitterAE sent Small Key (Gerudo Training Ground) to MeganOOT (Time Station Mailbox - Welcome! (Main))
FlitterAE sent Eponas Song to MeganOOT (Time Station Mailbox - Training Space (Gadget Training))
FlitterAE sent Small Key (Swamp Palace) to LlisandurLttP (Time Station Mailbox - Mini Game Corner (Mini Game Corner))```

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Oh!

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Glass cannon turns my attacks into fire attacks

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That means my stick can now burn bushes

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FlitterTUNC sent Star Piece to ArtiPM (Ruined Shop - Pot 4)

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FlitterTUNC sent Progressive Bow (Alt) to ryanspast (Overworld - [Northwest] Sign by Quarry Gate)
FlitterTUNC sent Small Key (Misery Mire) to LlisandurLttP (Stick House - Pot 3)
FlitterTUNC sent Energy Tank to LlisandurM3 (Stick House - Pot 4)

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Tunic is in BK mode

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https://i.imgur.com/XMSyn3n.png

Imgur

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Please mark the priority of these checks

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They are out of logic but I can get all of them right now with a bit of grinding

lament tusk Apr 2, 2025, 9:48 AM

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alright time to play subnautica

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i just got an error message
hmm
the game is still functioning but i didnt get to see what the error was

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ah this

fresh hill Apr 2, 2025, 9:55 AM

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midnight depot Please mark the priority of these checks

not at home so:

Cloud Leap is double jump, one of the most important items in the game
Portrait is minor, part of unlocking only a few locations (most of the progression "Artifacts" are like that)

fresh hill Apr 2, 2025, 9:55 AM

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lament tusk ah this

ah the dreaded compressed websocket warnings

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last time I asked it sounded like at least every C# game is receiving them, likely more, but it's unclear who if anyone is actually supposed to do anything about it

lament tusk Apr 2, 2025, 9:56 AM

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so, dont worry about it?

fresh hill Apr 2, 2025, 9:56 AM

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probably

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though it does specifically say "client developer" even though I can't fucking do anything about it so maybe go yell at the core/library devs for not thinking this through starlightexhausted

midnight depot Apr 2, 2025, 9:58 AM

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fresh hill not at home so: - Cloud Leap is double jump, one of the most important items in ...

I'll grab cloud leap later

midnight depot Apr 2, 2025, 10:17 AM

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It's OoT time

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Ah fuck the chests are ALL invisible https://i.imgur.com/9aincvo.png

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FlitterOoT sent Tai-Chi Kick to Ixcat (KF Midos Top Right Chest)

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FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Misery Mire) to LlisandurLttP (KF Shop Item 6)

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FlitterOoT sent Thor to octy_SC2 (KF Kokiri Sword Chest)

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https://i.imgur.com/s4L9umN.png Iron boots are in Ixrec's south graveyard above big skeleton

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