#Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer

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midnight depot
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That's why the logic needs refining

fresh hill
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"no item"?

midnight depot
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Sorry

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ALL item

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Most people play with the important items shuffled and the rest vanilla

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Since the world is really big and can take uh

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40 hours (I usually speed up the game) to 100%

fresh hill
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ah

midnight depot
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I'll stop here. Checklist for next time:
1- Use pretty stone to get SouthEast Angara Islet | SE Angara Islet - Bird's Treasure
2- Use Dancing Idol to weaken and kill the great serpent.
3- Use aquarius stone to beat aqua rock.
4- Use [Hint]: FlitterGS's Hover Jade is at Market Bazaar Item 6 in FlitterOoT's World. (not found), blue and red keys to beat Jupiter lighthouse.
5- Beat Poseidon, in Lemuria use lucky medals.

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[Hint]: FlitterGS's Hover Jade is at Market Bazaar Item 6 in FlitterOoT's World. (not found) @wet field when you have the time this is needed to finish the game.

cold valve
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let's play ladx

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La DxRomulus sent Quantum Moon Signal to dr rOWmulus (Moldorm Heart Container (Tail Cave))

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La DxRomulus sent Warp Core Installation Manual to dr rOWmulus (Slime Eye Heart Container (Key Cavern))

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okie dokie, this is the only thing left for go mode [Hint]: La DxRomulus's Nightmare Key (Catfish's Maw) is at World_Sense in octyKnight's World. (not found)

proven holly
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still need my last dreamer for that

cold valve
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let's play outer wilds

proven holly
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[Hint]: octyKnight's Monomon is at 9-1 Monkey Madness Coin - Climb (Outside) in FlitterAE's World. (not found) -- flitter I think you got sky flyer so this should be go?

cold valve
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dr rOWmulus sent World Key to FlitterAE (GD Ship Log: Control Module 1 - Request)

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shine get

midnight depot
cold valve
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shine get

cold valve
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dr rOWmulus sent Baldur_Shell to octyKnight (GD Ship Log: Probe Tracking Module 2 - Anomaly Located)

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this is the only thing left for go mode, everything else is just checks [Hint]: dr rOWmulus's Imaging Rule is at Song from Saria in FlitterOoT's World. (not found)

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so i will be done for now and i'll BK it tomorrow in the usual friday VC

midnight depot
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Hi

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Let's play Ape Escape

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I have one world key left before I can finish the game

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Oh, and the RC car

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[Hint]: FlitterAE's World Key is at Wasteland Bombchu Salesman in MeganOOT's World. (not found)

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FlitterAE's R.C. Car is at Song from Ocarina of Time in FlitterOoT's World. (not found)

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FlitterAE sent Small Key (Fire Temple) to MeganOOT (2-1 Thick Jungle Monkey 4 - Maki)

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FlitterAE sent Descending_Dark to Arti Knight (2-1 Thick Jungle Mailbox - You "Must" Rowboat (Fish Room))

weary lagoon
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Thanks

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today I will play Hollow Knight

midnight depot
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FlitterAE sent City_Crest to Wcctnoam (7-2 Wabi Sabi Wall Coin - Gong Room) Just in time

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FlitterAE sent Dog Food to La DxRomulus (7-2 Wabi Sabi Wall Monkey 6 - Buddha)

midnight depot
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FlitterAE sent Shine Sprite to Artio Sunshine (8-3 TV Tower - Boss) TV Tower boss get

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I forgot about this part!

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Turns out I ALSO need the RC car to get Monomon

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That's BK mode for Ape Escape

weary lagoon
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@wet field my last nail upgrade

weary lagoon
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Arti Knight sent Rupees (5) to FlitterOoT (Pale_Ore-Nosk)

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horrible boss without wings or shade cloak

wet field
weary lagoon
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epic!!

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hollow knight bk mode

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@sage dawn @wet field I need these to beat the game

midnight depot
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They should make fragile weakness, a charm that force equips as a trap and lasts until you die

cold valve
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Next month i will add deathlink to outer wilds

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Now my bullshit deaths can actually mean something!

fresh hill
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that'll go great with Nine Sols death_link when I implement it

lament tusk
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deathlink works best when you're playing at the same time as someone else

fresh hill
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yeah it's fundamentally a sync feature, but if we never end up playing together it'll be harmless

lament tusk
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im totally down to do a session like that mind

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just need to book a weekend or sometihg for it

sage dawn
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Oh shit I won't be the only one with death link on

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I can grab the shadow temple one pretty quick but I need to check what dungeons I need to beat for nocturn check

midnight depot
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Finally

midnight depot
midnight depot
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[Hint]: FlitterGS's Mia is at GC Shop Item 5 in FlitterOoT's World. (not found) @wet field need this character because I ran out of space to hold djinn

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FlitterGS sent Progressive Strength Upgrade to Yoot (Prox - Chieftain's House - Box)

midnight depot
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Oh my god I spent four hours looking for three checks in aqua rock and I kept missing this room

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I should have used a guide

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They were junk

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FlitterGS sent Dash_Slash to Wcctnoam (Anemos Inner Sanctum - Cracked Tile Fall Room)

cold valve
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let's play ladx

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BK'd

midnight depot
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lmao that was fast

cold valve
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i had 3 checks

midnight depot
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Both of my games are now in BK mode.

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Golden Sun hints:
[Hint]: FlitterGS's Sheba is at Gerudo Training Ground Stalfos Chest in FlitterOoT's World at Ganons Castle Grounds -> Ganons Castle Lobby. (not found)
[Hint]: FlitterGS's Whirlwind is at Gerudo Training Ground Maze Path First Chest in FlitterOoT's World at Ganons Castle Grounds -> Ganons Castle Lobby. (not found)
[Hint]: FlitterGS's Hover Jade is at Market Bazaar Item 6 in FlitterOoT's World. (not found)
[Hint]: FlitterGS's Mia is at GC Shop Item 5 in FlitterOoT's World. (not found)
Ape Escape Hints:
[Hint]: FlitterAE's R.C. Car is at Song from Ocarina of Time in FlitterOoT's World. (not found)
[Hint]: FlitterAE's World Key is at Wasteland Bombchu Salesman in MeganOOT's World. (not found)

cold valve
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AFAIK nothing hinsted is in my games

midnight depot
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Yep, you found every hint you had

proven holly
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i think the only thing people need from me is the World Sense check still

cold valve
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i;'ll play outer wild in a little while, once i've had some pizza

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but i guess there's no rush unless ah int happens

midnight depot
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Pretty sure world sense is junk, no?

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Oh, like the check in the world sense location

proven holly
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yeah

cold valve
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one of my go mode items is there

midnight depot
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Hi

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Let's play Golden Sun. Thanks for hover.

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With the hover jade I can do the jupiter lighthouse!

midnight depot
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FlitterGS sent Small Key (Face Shrine) to La DxRomulus (Contigo - Mia)

midnight depot
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The serpent is dead

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Zora Tunic for yay, Goron Tunic for Meganought

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Game is back in BK mode

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Oh also, Kratta played yesterday

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Kratta got hookshot for Meganought, Lurien for Wcctnoam, Gold Questagon for Llisandur, Lurien for Artiks, and most importantly, Nothing for Dr. Romulus

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I need the following checks to finish up my games:
Golden Sun hints:
[Hint]: FlitterGS's Sheba is at Gerudo Training Ground Stalfos Chest in FlitterOoT's World at Ganons Castle Grounds -> Ganons Castle Lobby. (not found)
[Hint]: FlitterGS's Whirlwind is at Gerudo Training Ground Maze Path First Chest in FlitterOoT's World at Ganons Castle Grounds -> Ganons Castle Lobby. (not found)
[Hint]: FlitterGS's Mia is at GC Shop Item 5 in FlitterOoT's World. (not found)
Ape Escape Hints:
[Hint]: FlitterAE's R.C. Car is at Song from Ocarina of Time in FlitterOoT's World. (not found)
[Hint]: FlitterAE's World Key is at Wasteland Bombchu Salesman in MeganOOT's World. (not found)

cold valve
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let's play outer wilds

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dr rOWmulus sent Fairy to LlisandurFox (Ship Log: WHS 1 - Warp Towers)

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dr rOWmulus sent Heavy_Blow to octyKnight (Ship Log: Frozen Shuttle 2 - Energy Readings)

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fuk, i opened the sun station door just as it was being swallowed. that shit is LOUD

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dr rOWmulus sent Bomb Bag to FlitterOoT (ET: Lakebed Cave (Floor Text))

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dr rOWmulus sent Fury_of_the_Fallen to Wcctnoam (ET Ship Log: Lakebed Cave 2 - Entanglement Rule)

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dr rOWmulus sent Fragile_Greed to octyKnight (ET Ship Log: Quantum Caves 1 - Wandering Rock)

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shine get

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motherfucker, i got got on the sun station a second time

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aaaaaand i just flew into the sun on the way back to ash twin

ancient harness
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I guess I got my last dreamer at some point? Gonna finish the game now

cold valve
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dr rOWmulus sent Minuet of Forest to MeganOOT (Sun Station (Projection Stone Text))

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dr rOWmulus sent Golden Coin to LlisandurFox (Ship Log: Sun Station 3 - Comet)

ancient harness
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I see, I was ignoring everything that wasn't a message from Kratta so that's on me

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And that's HK done. Only one Radiance attack is unavoidable without dash

cold valve
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kazoo ending GET

midnight depot
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Nice work

cold valve
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shine get

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hourglass twins complete

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dark bramble complete

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giant's deep bk'd

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got out of the comet just in time to get on my ship just as it got sucked off the surface, and i repaired the ship damage trap just in time to fall into the sun for a fourth time this session

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anyway, i'm fully BK'd, all i have left is the rest of the tower of quantum bullshit and the sixth location stuff, just locked behind [Hint]: dr rOWmulus's Imaging Rule is at Song from Saria in FlitterOoT's World. (not found)

cold valve
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that brings OW to 93.54%

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let's play ladx

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bd's again

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just need the thing from octy who needs their dreamer

lament tusk
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oof this is gonna be a long fight, facing shadow link with 19 heart containers and double defence

midnight depot
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Can make it easier with the stun trick

lament tusk
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oh i beat him

midnight depot
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Oh good

lament tusk
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eh

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i just didnt lock on and used the megaton hammer

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for some reason that just works

midnight depot
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Yeah

lament tusk
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he doesnt block the hammer if you're not locked on so just kept hitting him

midnight depot
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Megaton hammer is great if you don't have biggoron sword

lament tusk
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descending dark wcct

midnight depot
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Apparently, dark link cannot benefit from double defense

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He only counts your hearts

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Which means in an optimized setup he needs five hits to go down from 20 hearts

wet field
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Such a strange boss

midnight depot
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It's a banger idea

wet field
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So true!

lament tusk
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prog strength flitteroot

wet field
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Nice

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How does one get to the shadow temple entrance without the warp song? Can you hookshot the fence thing in front of it?

midnight depot
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No it's fucked up

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Hold on

wet field
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I think I need to enter it as a child to do jabu jabu

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Bit of a head scratcher

midnight depot
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You can do jabu jabu as an adult

wet field
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Ah

midnight depot
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The only thing you can't do is the boss

wet field
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I think I need to kill the boss to get the ocarina of time check as well as to get the dungeon rewards so I can cross the bridge to enter GTG

midnight depot
lament tusk
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oh hey, found my mirror sheild

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rancid egg arti

midnight depot
wet field
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Oh I forgot I haven't tried all the owl drops yet

midnight depot
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There's one in lake hylia and one in DMT

wet field
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I have all the songs but none of them take me to the graveyard?

midnight depot
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Really? I thought it was guaranteed

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I guess one of your owls must have it then

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It's the same for fire temple

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Locking shadow temple behind an owl drop is a genius way to make Jabu Jabu child link exclusive

wet field
midnight depot
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Oh also

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None of the methods I showed earlier are logic tricks

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So you'll never have to do them except in glitched logic

lament tusk
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if yoot can get me this im go mode and nothing else matters

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otherwise i need these from flitteroot to get that check that flitter keeps bugging me about in the wastemand

wet field
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Another shop item, y'all are breaking the bank

lament tusk
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gannon castle keyring flitteroot

wet field
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Pretty nice

lament tusk
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right i've been go mode for subnautica for a while but honestly my run this time has been so shit my desire to finish it has been next to nil
i just need to grind resources

lament tusk
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oh i actually need this
i forgot that ion batteries and ion power cells are different checks for some reason

weary lagoon
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need wings from flitter

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and flitter needed whirlwind or something i think

ancient harness
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Git gud

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What, you only gotta fight HK?

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Oh for the check

weary lagoon
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what are you talking about

fresh hill
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#OuterWildsRando:

midnight depot
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Is this loss

fresh hill
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nope rdsnrk

weary lagoon
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its SUPER MARIO SUNSHINE SUNDAY

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new port...

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@tender pelican I got both questagons you hinted

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I think I will release now its just scattered blue coins left

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87% is enough

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Artio Sunshine sent Relic (Cake Stand) to Plucky (Delfino Plaza - Canal Sewer Blue Coin)
Artio Sunshine sent Small Key (Face Shrine) to La DxRomulus (Corona Mountain - Front Right Lava Blue Coin)
Artio Sunshine sent Small Key (Key Cavern) to La DxRomulus (Noki Bay - Red Coins on the Half Shell)
Artio Sunshine sent Relic (Crayon Box) to Plucky (Noki Bay - Left Tunnel Blue Coin)

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The corona mountain one is weird because I got all of those but only half sent checks

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now im waiting for my dreamers and wings in HK

tender pelican
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The port changed again.

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3 questagons left.

midnight depot
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Hi.

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Both my games are in BK mode

midnight depot
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Hmm

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Doesn't look like we can finish before the end of January at this rate

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Two games are around 50%, less than half games finished

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Then again, it was a tough month

tender pelican
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Hm, wonder where people got stuck?

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Looks like 4 of the 5 remaining questagon locations are in Yoot's world. I just need 3 of them.

midnight depot
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I'm waiting on Kratta and Meganought. Meganought can't help me until yay plays (unless he wants to learn the shadow temple shortcut skip)

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Subnautica is waiting on Artiks who is waiting on me and I'm waiting for Kratta

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Learn how to clip through the gate mid-way through Shadow Temple and get straight to the boat and ride into the last section of the dungeon. Great way to get the dungeon completed quickly in a speedrun or randomizer.

More short Ocarina of Time glitch tutorials: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLg3X7T96uNxz8nYuolFFQBT76Q0mzO0ED

#shorts #z...

▶ Play video
midnight depot
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Hello

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Still in BK mode, waiting for Kratta or yay to play

midnight depot
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He doesn't want to spend sticks so he throws Ruto at enemies

tender pelican
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Lol.

weary lagoon
midnight depot
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Crosscode update

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    force_filler_local: If selected, forces all filler items to be placed in your own world.

Modified location groups to be much more helpful. There are now location groups named after each major area which include all chests, cutscenes, elements, quests, and shops from those areas. Also, there are now location groups for each area containing just the checks of each of those categories if any exist in that area. In total, the location groups of this format now include: ```
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Very handy for the way I play

cold valve
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Nice

wet field
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items

FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Turtle Rock) to La DxRomulus (Sheik at Temple)
FlitterOoT sent Imaging Rule to dr rOWmulus (Song from Saria)
FlitterOoT sent Bow to Yoot (Bottom of the Well Basement Pot 9)
FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Catfish's Maw) to La DxRomulus (Bottom of the Well Basement Pot 5)
FlitterOoT sent Ladder to Quarry to LlisandurFox (Bottom of the Well Lens of Truth Chest)
FlitterOoT sent Howling_Wraiths to octyKnight (Bottom of the Well Underwater Left Chest)
FlitterOoT sent Unbreakable_Strength to Wcctnoam (Song from Malon)
FlitterOoT sent Deploy Fenix (Spear of Adun Calldown) to octylFractal (LLR Tower Right Cow)
FlitterOoT sent Bow to MeganOOT (LLR Tower Left Cow)
FlitterOoT sent Piers to FlitterGS (LLR Deku Scrub Grotto Right)
FlitterOoT sent Medivac to octylFractal (LLR Deku Scrub Grotto Left)
FlitterOoT sent Mia to FlitterGS (GC Shop Item 5)
FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Shadow Temple) to MeganOOT (Bottom of the Well West Inner Room Flying Pot 1)
FlitterOoT sent Yarn to Plucky (ZR Frogs Ocarina Game)
FlitterOoT sent Rancid_Egg to octyKnight (Fire Temple Flare Dancer Chest)
FlitterOoT sent R.C. Car to FlitterAE (Song from Ocarina of Time)
FlitterOoT sent Sheba to FlitterGS (Gerudo Training Ground Stalfos Chest)
FlitterOoT sent Golden Coin to LlisandurFox (Gerudo Training Ground Hidden Ceiling Chest)
FlitterOoT sent Whirlwind to FlitterGS (Gerudo Training Ground Maze Path First Chest)
FlitterOoT sent Magic Dagger to LlisandurFox (Gerudo Training Ground Maze Path Final Chest)
FlitterOoT sent Relic (Tin-foil Hat Cow) to Plucky (Gerudo Training Ground Maze Right Central Chest)
FlitterOoT sent Yarn to Plucky (Gerudo Training Ground Maze Right Side Chest)
midnight depot
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Amazing work, thank you once more

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Piers, Mia, Sheba. These are all my remaining characters

lament tusk
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That shadow temple key gets me some more checks, I think including the one flitter needed
I'll do it tomorrow

cold valve
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omg!!!

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ok lets bust out the end of outer wilds

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after i get some pizza

cold valve
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ok let's play outer wilds

cold valve
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dr rOWmulus sent Zora Tunic to FlitterOoT (QM: Explore the Sixth Location)

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dr rOWmulus sent Yarn to Plucky (QM Ship Log: Sixth Location 4 - Source)

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all checks complete! just need to do my goal now

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dr rOWmulus (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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nothing to release

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i definitely preferred logsanity and split translator

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still bk'd in ladx

lament tusk
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li'l turtle flitter

midnight depot
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Thanks

lament tusk
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distant_village_stag wcct

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world key flitter

midnight depot
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Oh hell yeah

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I can finish Ape Escape

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Let's do that now

midnight depot
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FlitterAE sent Shade_Cloak to Wcctnoam (8-1 City Park Coin - Sewers Front)

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FlitterAE sent Abyss_Shriek to Wcctnoam (4-2 Coral Cave Monkey 2 - Oreo)

ancient harness
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I could get the last 3 checks in the game now

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But I won't

midnight depot
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That's all right

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You can !release instead

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Now, for the fourth and final time

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Let's finish Monkey Madness

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I'm finally at the climb portion

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To get here I needed the sky flyer, RC car, slingback shooter, and access to the level

weary lagoon
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have you got / are you able to get my wings now after krøt played?

midnight depot
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I'll get them tomorrow. Today is Ape Escape

tender pelican
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Who do I need to ping for Yoot?

midnight depot
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@sage dawn

tender pelican
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Nearly all my questagons left are in their world. And that's all I need to complete the game.

midnight depot
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FlitterAE sent Monomon to octyKnight (9-1 Monkey Madness Coin - Climb (Outside)) @proven holly

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FlitterAE sent Shine Sprite to Artio Sunshine (9-1 Monkey Madness Monkey 20 - Bronson) get

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FlitterAE sent Magic Wand to LlisandurFox (9-1 Monkey Madness Monkey 18 - Shine)

weary lagoon
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if we get all 120 we get the secret ending

proven holly
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HK ending is go now yay
will finish today and release

lament tusk
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i need the boos key for gannons castle but for some reason cant hint it?

midnight depot
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Read your YAML

tender pelican
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Did you make a setting that you don't need the key? I had stuff like that for FF1 since I started with them from my settings but I didn't know.

midnight depot
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Gannon's Castle boss key is not shuffled

tender pelican
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Or that would do it. If it's not in the pool you can't hint it.

midnight depot
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There's a hint in the game that tells you how to get it

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But I forgot where

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Hmm, you set it to be anywhere in the world

lament tusk
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yeah i keysanityed it

midnight depot
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Whatever, just wate a hint and I'll give you the location from the spoiler log

lament tusk
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its the last thing i need so yeah plase do

midnight depot
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Ganons Castle Water Trial Right Chest (Yoot): Boss Key (Ganons Castle) (MeganOOT)

lament tusk
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whelp

midnight depot
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Ah, it all falls on yay

lament tusk
midnight depot
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Oh the reason you couldn't hint was because the item name sucks

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You gotta do !hint boss key (ganons castle)

lament tusk
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i was having a lot of difficulty with it

lament tusk
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thanks

tender pelican
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Lol. Reminds me of the Hollow Knight items with all the underscores for no reason.

midnight depot
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That's every check.

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Time to fight Specter

tender pelican
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I might add Rabi Ribi next time. I played through the whole game, but I'll have to see how it is in rando. Might also add Earthbound.

midnight depot
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That's Specter 1, time for Specter 2

cold valve
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I should consider doing the outer wilds dlc as well

proven holly
midnight depot
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Apparently a bug in Ape Escape causes the final level to be impossible to enter

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I guess I'll just release

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FlitterAE found their Victory (9-2 Peak Point Matrix - Specter) Releasing gave me my own victory and counted this as a win

wet field
midnight depot
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You can also read a spoiler log

wet field
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True

proven holly
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octyKnight sent Nightmare Key (Catfish's Maw) to La DxRomulus (World_Sense)

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time to see if i can beat radiance this time

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octyKnight (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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radiance ded

midnight depot
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Nine games done

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I'll be able to wrap up Golden Sun tomorrow

wet field
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I should be able to do oot tonight

cold valve
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Oh good i can complete ladx tonight

wet field
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Folks b gaming gaming

wet field
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FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Shadow Temple) to MeganOOT (Kak Bazaar Item 8)

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I'm out of hints to find, so Imma go kill ganon now

midnight depot
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Good luck

lament tusk
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well i can kill bongo bongo now, not sure i need to tho

midnight depot
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One day I want to kill Ganon with the ultimate weapon

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Ruto's ass

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It kills him in one hit, but you have to get it there

cold valve
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let's play ladx

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La DxRomulus sent Whispering_Root-Crystal_Peak to Arti Knight (Slime Eel Heart Container (Catfish's Maw))

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La DxRomulus (Team #1) has completed their goal.

midnight depot
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Well done

cold valve
wet field
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floot has won!

tender pelican
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Woo!

cold valve
sage dawn
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Holy shit it's already the 29th

fresh hill
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yeah, part of me was hoping to bring Nine Sols to a February game but that's clearly not happening so I need to pick something soon

midnight depot
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Hi

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Let's play Golden Sun

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Thanks for mimic, Piers, Mia, Sheba (in a row!), Whirlwind, Li'l Turtle, Mimic

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FlitterGS sent Monarch_Wings to Arti Knight (Naribwe - Reveal Circle)

tender pelican
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@sage dawn Are you going to be able to play today?

weary lagoon
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nice

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just need my dreamers

midnight depot
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I wonder if I'm ready for this fight

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It's the final boss so they even have a special animation for entering the fight

midnight depot
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FlitterGS sent Small Key (Gerudo Training Ground) to MeganOOT (Islet Cave - Central Room Top)

weary lagoon
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lets play HK

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Arti Knight found their Shade_Cloak (Grub-Basin_Requires_Wings)

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Arti Knight sent Small Key (Forest Temple) to MeganOOT (Simple_Key-Basin)

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dont remember if he beat the game yet

lament tusk
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I need the gannon boss key

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I think kratta had it

weary lagoon
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Lost Kin is very easy with spore shroom..

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Arti Knight sent Gold Skulltula Token to FlitterOoT (Boss_Essence-Lost_Kin)

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how do I get in here in rando

fresh hill
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iirc they lowered the blue health requirement to get in but I don't remember if it was "any blue" or some other fixed number or what

ancient harness
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Yeah you just need one of the blue mask charms

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At least that's how I did it, with 7 masks

weary lagoon
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I have all 3!

wet field
weary lagoon
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Arti Knight sent Gold Questagon to LlisandurFox (King's_Idol-Crystal_Peak)

tender pelican
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2 left.

weary lagoon
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im gonna skip ff4 iron gauntlet i think that games done

tender pelican
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Yup.

lament tusk
midnight depot
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Thank you for the daedalus summon

weary lagoon
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yw!

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alright im done until i get the last dreamer

midnight depot
#

Finally

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Only took five and a half hours to figure the fight out

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FlitterGS (Team #1) has released all remaining items from their world.

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Looks like my game didn't have anything essential left

#

We're now at 12/17 games done!

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Subnautica, Tunic, Artik's Hollow Knight, yay and Meganought's OoT left

lament tusk
#

Oh shit, BOMBCHUS

midnight depot
#

That's the fourth bombchus you've been sent

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Let me adjust my settings so I'm ready for next time

weary lagoon
#

bro wrote artik's..

bright hatch
#

Potatoes potatoe’s

midnight depot
#

This time I'll change the following settings:

  major_minor_split:
    # When enabled, all major locations will prefer progressive and all minor locations will prefer filler.
    'false': 0
    'true': 1
  omit_locations:
    # Choose to omit locations containing optional harder boss fights
    # No Omission: keeps all super bosses in play.
    # Omit Anemos Inner Sanctum: omits Anemos Inner Sanctum. Removes roughly 4 locations from the pool.
    # Omit Superbosses and Inner Sanctum: omits all super bosses and Anemos Inner Sanctum. Removes roughly 7 locations from the pool
    no_omission: 0
    omit_anemos_inner_sanctum: 0
    omit_superbosses_and_inner_sanctum: 1
  reveal_hidden_item:
    # Require Reveal to be able to logically access hidden items.
    # Note that most hidden items can be gotten regardless of having Reveal or not.
    # Also there are a few locations that hard require Reveal to be obtainable, this setting does not alter those.
    'false': 1
    'true': 0
  lemurian_ship:
    # What needs to be done to get the ship?
    # Vanilla: requires getting the black crystal and completing the gabomba statue to get the reward from Madras Mayor.
    # Ship Door Unlocked: involves getting the black crystal and activating the ship as per vanilla.
    # Available From The Start: allows you to use the ship from the beginning of the game.
    vanilla: 1
    ship_door_unlocked: 0
    available_from_start: 0
  manual_retreat_glitch:
    # When enabled, Hold select to trigger the Retreat glitch. Logic does not require or expect use of glitches to beat your seed,
    # this purely gives more control to activating the glitch over draining your PP to than use it anyway.
    'false': 0
    'true': 1
#

Number one will incentivize me to seek out bosses and dungeon ends.
Number two will make sure I don't delay the game too much by trying to build for superbosses.
Number three will let me use universal tracker for invisible checks instead of having to memorize where they are.
Number four will make the game more closed up.

bright hatch
#

I might be picking a different game if I can find an officially supported one (I know I can work outside of those, but I don’t feel ready for that)

If I do go hat in time again my goal will not be seal the deal. that’s the point where death wish gets way too insane for my current skill level

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I was gonna say it’s nuts how celeste 64 has support and celeste doesn’t, but celeste doesn’t really have many progression things even if you invent some. Hearts, level entrances/tapes, strawberries, and…that’s it

midnight depot
#

I think you can easily pick an unsupported game

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A lot of them are not harder to get running than supported games

bright hatch
#

Where’s the full list with not supported games as well?

bright hatch
#

That works enough, thanks

midnight depot
#

The only different thing you need to is give me the apworld file you wanna use.
Celeste does have an archipelago but it's still in development so it's unsupported for now

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I usually pick one different game each month and keep the others the same. This month I'll run the same three and hopefully I get to play OoT instead of fucking up and forgetting to put Kratta's YAML in

bright hatch
#

Might just work on actually playing Sacred Stones so I can then randomize it

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I mean, I could otherwise, but uh. It’d be weird lmao

midnight depot
#

I play games in archipelago without having played the base game sometimes

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You just have to make sure that you can put in the time to learn and finish it, even though it'll be harder

lament tusk
#

finished subnautica, sent my last 6 checks away

bright hatch
#

Granted one gba emblem game is like the others, but having what I assume is random characters and/or gear is going to throw off its ‘incredibly easy’ reputation

midnight depot
#

Keizaron plays it on his streams sometimes

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The randomizer does fuck him a lot of the time. It takes him 8-12 hours to finish a seed sometimes

bright hatch
#

Hell what if enemies are randomized? Imagine map 1, I have to kill 3 bosses with just eirika and the knight dude

proven holly
#

ive got a better refined sc2 yaml (so it hopefully doesn't finish so fast lol) and might throw in wind waker as well as keeping HK mostly as is

bright hatch
#

I’m definitely doing a casual playthrough first

lament tusk
#

oh yeah WW

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i forgot there was a WW rando

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i think i will still skip next month tho

proven holly
#

once I tried to put in The Witness without finishing base game, and uhhhh trying to figure out randomized puzzles that I hadn't learned mechanics for was certainly interesting

lament tusk
#

oh noooo

bright hatch
#

I’d love to try osrs but we’re on time limits, and chunkman is both something I’ve never done before and requires extensive wikiwalking

fresh hill
#

I hear far more stories of people hurting themselves by randomizing a game they don't play than the other way around rdsnrk

bright hatch
#

I am an ironwoman but like. I left f2p long ago. Min 50’s in everything and a 99 FM (gotten before they fixed wintertodt…)

I wouldn’t know shit about how to chunkman it

fresh hill
#

at the bare minimum, how would you ever know what the items and locations are if you haven't played vanilla? I've never seen a randomizer that seriously tries to tutorialize all of that

lament tusk
#

cheat

fresh hill
#

the names, sure, but that won't tell you what they do/where they are

bright hatch
#

Both!

lament tusk
#

also oot is still locked behind gannon boss key

midnight depot
#

No, no

tender pelican
#

Ugh, I'm going to have to learn how to make an apworld. I just looked up and there's a Quest for Glory randomizer. That might be fun.

bright hatch
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“First one, then the other if necessary”

fresh hill
#

fwiw a manual apworld is extremely easy to make

midnight depot
#

I haven't played Golden Sun 2 in like fifteen years so I had no idea where any of the items are. So what I did was use Universal Tracker to look up location names, then the wiki and guides to find them

lament tusk
#

right my gannon boss key is behind the gannon water trial for yoot, literally endgame

fresh hill
#

to be clear, I never said you needed to have played vanilla recently

midnight depot
#

Same process for OoT, and I never played the vanilla version

midnight depot
fresh hill
#

oh huh

lament tusk
fresh hill
#

I guess major Zelda games are so thoroughly documented that would work out

midnight depot
#

Yeah, in the case a game is not documented, I watch someone's let's play to see how they do it

fresh hill
#

ah, right, watching an LP of the vanilla game certainly works (for many genres), did not mean to exclude that

midnight depot
#

For Golden Sun the issue I ran into is that the randomizer specific guides assume you played the game, the vanilla game guides don't account for randomizer changes, and nobody plays the game's randomizer because it's a pain

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So I had to develop strategies to beat bosses on the fly! It's a lot harder than I expected because the game has a tiny screen and can't display all the relevant information in the same place

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Also I randomized weapon effects which are actually crucial for many strategies

tender pelican
#

It's definitely a game that would benefit from a remake/upscale.

midnight depot
#

The randomizer has a setting for easier and stupider bosses, so you won't delay other players in the multiworld too much

sage dawn
#

@midnight depot can you release my world? I've got too much going on

midnight depot
#

Got it. Thank you so much for playing with me even though life is so hard nowadays

lament tusk
midnight depot
cold valve
#

I will try to send updated yamls before i leave for HarmonyCon

lament tusk
#

ill have my boss key so ill complete my oot now then

cold valve
#

Nothing is changing except adding deathlink to outer wilds

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Unless ladx deathlink has been added since last month

midnight depot
#

If the apworld is not changing I can just toggle deathlink on my end and use the same yamls

lament tusk
#

finished and released
only thing of vague import was magic beans for flitteroot

weary lagoon
#

maybe we could do a 2 week format sometime. Feels like we always play for 5-7 days and then nothing happens for 20 days before we rush the end 👴

lament tusk
#

it sucks when someone like me BKs early, because i actually enjoy playing the games i pick, and then have drip feeding stuff for the rest of the month

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i dont use hints till it becomes somewhat frustratingly close to the end of the month, and they're almost always stuff for other people, or stuff that requires stuff from other people

midnight depot
fresh hill
#

fwiw, I'm fine either way; if you all go for a 2w game I'll just bring 1-2 games instead of 2-4

midnight depot
#

The current pace suits me just fine personally, but I do think some people tend to be run into issues spreading out the workload over the whole month. What if we did like a three week thing for February so we have space before the next game to plan?

tender pelican
#

Even with three games I had large gaps of not much going on, so doing it in three weeks should be fine.

tender pelican
#

Tunic completed and all items released.

lament tusk
#

who's left?

wet field
#

arti knight

lament tusk
#

yeah

wet field
#

I could do a 2 week game or a 3 week game, I just could not do them regularly with no breaks in-between

lament tusk
#

oh sure i wouldnt want to do that all the time

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im still taking a break next month

proven holly
tender pelican
#

Tunic and FF4 apworlds are updated from last time.

wet field
bright hatch
#

I'm doing hat game again but with some tweaks. No entrance shuffling, generally easier settings, but I'm gonna try to 100% as much as feasible before releasing. Also, traps are in play now, so that's fun.

Of note is starting with umbrella, and snatcher's contracts just being in my world (it was weird when they technically weren't). Should reduce annoying BK amount.

ancient harness
fierce vale
#

randomising the umbrella in hat in time and making it memorable is like, one of the few fun keys you can rando in that game mewGiggle

midnight depot
#

Good morning

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We have one game left!

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Doesn't seem too tough, but it is involved

midnight depot
weary lagoon
#

TRUE TRUE TRUEEE MASTER PIECE

midnight depot
#

Hey, Artiks, are you going to play today? Yours is the last game left, unless Kratta wants to keep playing OoT and get the rest of the checks

weary lagoon
#

not sure

weary lagoon
#

I died to the radiance

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cause I didnt have shape of unn on

midnight depot
#

Very unfortunate

weary lagoon
#

I killed the radiance

midnight depot
#

That's everyone!

#

Well done

lament tusk
#

yey

weary lagoon
#

Hornet is here

#

Wonder if they will make a game for her

tender pelican
#

Lol.

ancient harness
#

lmao even

midnight depot
#

Thank you for joining me in the Manechat Archipelago game for January 2025! This game had 58 spheres and 6127 locations. The playthrough file lists receivers from last to first: @wet field with my OoT (sorry), @tender pelican with FF4, @lament tusk with OoT, Llisandur with Tunic and FF1, me with Golden Sun, @cold valve with LADX, @ancient harness with Hollow Knight, me again with Ape Escape, @weary lagoon with SM Sunshine, Meganought with Subnautica, Artiks with Hollow Knight, Dr. Romulus with Outer Wilds, @sage dawn with OoT, @proven holly with Hollow Knight @bright hatch with A Hat in Time, and Octy with Starcraft 2. Included is the spoiler log, game log, output file, and YAMLs used. The game link was at https://archipelago.gg/room/1ZJ4gGS6RLKkrfO-R6w-MA

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Would y'all prefer if I started the next one Saturday February 1st or Monday February 3rd? It'll be for three weeks

tender pelican
#

Dr Romulus and I will be at HarmonyCon until the 3rd.

bright hatch
#

Monday works best what with the con and all

midnight depot
#

Makes sense

fresh hill
#

I'm leaning towards AHiT and Psychonauts next time (easy games only, wanna keep making progress on 9S rando dev), will sort out the actual files when I'm sure

midnight depot
#

Hello, @here! I'm starting another Manechat Asynchronous Archipelago Game, with the intent of running until the end of February 2025. If you're interested, please read the list of available games https://archipelago.gg/games and pick one or more games to run (or browse https://multiworld.news/apworlds.html for unsupported games!), then ping me so I can keep track of you and help you out with any problems. Let's try to make sure that you like the game you picked and can complete it by the end of the month!
The game will start February 3rd or whenever everyone interested is ready.

In order to join, I will need the YAML files for whatever games you want to play. I already have files from octy, Llisandur, kratta, Plucky, Wcctnoam, Dr. Romulus, and myself.

fierce vale
#

FujiTeehee i am still busy this month and likely next

slow moth
#

Minecraft? hmmmm

weary lagoon
#

minecraft kinda sucks in AP

midnight depot
#

It is pretty hard to set up Minecraft so be careful

fresh hill
#

yeah, games with open world-levels of player freedom struggle to randomize well

midnight depot
#

I have the following games so far

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Plus Dr. Romulus

#

Oh, but his YAML doesn't even have a deathlink setting to turn on

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Nevermind, it's in the middle

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@cold valve do you want default or all deaths?

slow moth
#

What about Undertale then?

fresh hill
#

the real question is, do we know if Rom wanted default or all_deaths

#

jinx

midnight depot
weary lagoon
#

not really sure if theres anything i wanna play this time

midnight depot
slow moth
#

Alr, I already have that one set up but I'll to get MC running too

midnight depot
#

Oh, if you have Undertale set up already, then all I need is a YAML

#

Just make sure the settings are good and you can finish all your games in the three week period

slow moth
#

Could I do both or just one?

weary lagoon
#

i was thinking about a pokemon game

midnight depot
#

Got it, set.

cold valve
#

don't worry i'll still die plenty otherwise

bright hatch
#

I’ll start my sacred stones playthru in my offtime so i can get familiar with it before doing the randomizer

midnight depot
bright hatch
#

I could add challenge by doing an ironman run…I bet there’s a toggle for that

midnight depot
#

Hopefully the new development on them makes for a more fun AP

weary lagoon
#

Crystal was pretty fun

#

my kings

cold valve
#

oh neat! which one am i?

#

i haven't been up to date on pokemon sprites in like 25 years

weary lagoon
#

Tyranitar #1119170161518334004 message

midnight depot
slow moth
midnight depot
#

Okay, in order to play, the person who creates the game needs a setting file

#

The setting file is in YAML format.

#

I need you to configure your Undertale game, then take the YAML file and give it to me

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Make sure the game works and you can randomize it before you join the Manechat group

weary lagoon
#

I will play Pokemon Emerald.

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I will defeat team fire and team water

midnight depot
#

Pokemon Emerald is a lot more interesting than Crystal!

slow moth
#

ok

weary lagoon
#

no

#

pokemon crystal has 2 maps and 16 gyms

#

but it was really big and I already did it

slow moth
#

do I just turn on randomize stats? then generate singleplayer?

midnight depot
#

I don't know!

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I've never randomized Undertale.

#

Consider asking in the archipelago discord server

fresh hill
#

it's very much the job of the game-specific setup guides to explain how to set it up

midnight depot
slow moth
#

ok

midnight depot
#

What I need is for you to set up your own archipelago game, and send or receive one item to make sure you can connect.

#

Then you can give me your YAML file and I'll put you in the Manechat game

slow moth
#

mhm

slow moth
#

Is this a good sign?

#

grand

#

Should I just do the default settings then?

midnight depot
#

This is good!

#

The default settings are fine. Just pick settings you know you can finish

#

For a longer game I might do pacifist route instead of neutral

tender pelican
#

I'm doing default setting in Earhtbound since I haven't done it before. We'll see how it turns out.

midnight depot
#

I would definitely randomize the item button and make weapons and armors progressive

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Randomizing stats is also fine

slow moth
#

Would I need weapons in a pacifist?

midnight depot
#

No

bright hatch
#

Never

slow moth
#

random stats is only used for Geno

bright hatch
#

It’s balanced around using as little violence as possible, so weapon is useless aside from the torn notebook still giving i-frames

midnight depot
#

If you've beaten the game on genocide, and you're fine with playing the game thrice, you can do all routes

#

Undertale is a short game so this makes sense

slow moth
#

I've only beaten it once on neutral I think

bright hatch
#

The good news is that regular encounters are easy as heck in geno

…there’s two bosses you no doubt know of that are not, however

slow moth
midnight depot
#

Excellent! I'll put it with the rest tomorrow. Excited to play with you

slow moth
#

flutternod me too

midnight depot
#

Hi. Let's check if everyone so far is good

midnight depot
# proven holly here are yamls for next time and the apworld for wind waker

Exception: Item Specter from option ExcludedItems(Brynhilds, Corruptor, Death Heads, Defiler, Devil Dogs, Disruptor, Dusk Wings, Ghost, HERC, Hammer Securities, Hel's Angels, Instigator, Liberator, Midnight Riders, Mothership, Predator, Raven, Siege Breakers, Spartan Company, Specter, Valkyrie, War Pigs, Warhound, Winged Nightmares) is not a valid item name from Starcraft 2. Did you mean 'Spectre' (85% sure)
I'll try with Spectre

proven holly
#

oops

#

I thought I tested that, sorry

midnight depot
#

Seems to generate with it on!

midnight depot
#

New rule on the archipelago server: No new Nintendo games

#
**We welcome development of all games so long as you aren't breaking our server rules.**
- Except for Nintendo games, for which we allow only consoles whose support has been officially discontinued.
  - In cases where a game was originally released on multiple consoles (like Twilight Princess) the later of the two relevant consoles is considered the release console.
    - Ex. Twilight Princess is considered a Wii Game and Breath of the Wild is considered a Switch game
  - Remasters are considered unique releases
    - Ex. Twilight Princess HD is a Wii U game```
fresh hill
#

it was a de facto rule forever but good to have it written down

proven holly
#

rip to my hopes for xenoblade rando

ancient harness
#

Very understandable rule

midnight depot
#

Xenoblade 1 is on the switch?

proven holly
#

definitive edition is

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and I'm more hoping for xc2 or xc3

midnight depot
#

Doesn't count, I think

weary lagoon
#

So none of the old games on switch online?

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like link to the past, oot etc

midnight depot
#

Well they haven't removed these games

weary lagoon
fresh hill
#

I don't think the AP setup for those games would work for the switch online versions

midnight depot
weary lagoon
#

hold on

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I want to change something.

weary lagoon
#

Debating if I should also bring a Zelda game or not

midnight depot
#

Oracle of seasons

weary lagoon
#

More like oracle of garbage..

midnight depot
#

I knew you hated Capcom

weary lagoon
#

no they made minish cap the greatest game of all time

midnight depot
#

Hi

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Is anyone else other than Artiks and Ixrec still intending to play?

fresh hill
#

right I need to get on that already

weary lagoon
#

oh are we starting today?

fresh hill
#

oh, are you aware of "Archipelago 0.5.1 Hotfix1"?

midnight depot
midnight depot
weary lagoon
#

i thought we were waiting until the third because of harmonycon but im down to start today

midnight depot
#

I don't know, is it important for everyone to be around on the first day? I have no issue with asynchronous starts

fresh hill
#

I remember someone saying/implying they wanted to do at least some of this synchronously and with death_link

midnight depot
#

Expressed desire for it at some point but didn't specify the start

slow moth
#

I'm ready whenever

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I just play the game every now and then?

fresh hill
#

ok, I have yamls and apworlds, but I should probably install and test the latest mod for Psychonauts since that was an iffier setup than most

weary lagoon
#

im gonna think about my 2nd game in the showe and come back to you

bright hatch
#

I might actually bow out this month so I can have fewer excuses to not work on my fanfics and stuff pluckyblep

midnight depot
#

As long as you get items other people need, and you finish your game by the end, there's no issue

weary lagoon
#

Alright I think I will stick to just Emerald this time. It should be pretty long with my settings

fresh hill
#

the main thing is not to overcommit to more game than you can reliably play

midnight depot
#

Yeah, if you have too much to play, you'll have to either spend a lot more time than you expected, or worse

weary lagoon
#

Who wants to be my rival in the game

midnight depot
#

Me

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Apparently Explorers of the Sky has an apworld

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Still very early in development,

slow moth
#

Honestly, I have quite a lot of time to play games

fresh hill
#

we shall see pippevil

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but yeah as long as you've played the game(s) once before, and are doing mostly default options, it should be fine

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decided to also throw in the SR1 manual I made while Nire and I were overanalyzing that series last month, so 3 games for me after all but they should be relatively small/easy ones

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Serious Gaming ™️ will be for after I finally get my 9S rando fully playable

midnight depot
#

SR1

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Soul Reaver!

fresh hill
#

is that the first time anyone's brought a manual to this?

midnight depot
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Yes

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I considered making a manual a couple of times but decided against it

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Might in the future

weary lagoon
#

So we're starting today? My usual saturday plans were cancelled so it would work well for me. NejireAah

fresh hill
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I can't gurantee I'd be able to play significantly today

midnight depot
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And I won't play much until Monday, but I should be able to start the game in about an hour

fresh hill
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I'll try to do the usual first location per game thing (esp Psychonauts), more if another commitment falls through

ancient harness
#

I don't know how hard mine is going to be so the sooner the better as far as I'm concerned, but that worry could turn out to be unfounded

midnight depot
#

Okay, let's check everyone is in, and NOT forget like last time

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@bright hatch are you still dropping out from this month? Want me to remove your YAML from the list?

weary lagoon
#

Am I in?

midnight depot
#

Yes

weary lagoon
#

Wow who is A hat in time no name

midnight depot
#

Ixrec, I just added his files

bright hatch
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let's go with yes

midnight depot
#

Here's everyone labeled

fresh hill
#

do, or do not, there is no prob

bright hatch
#

yes as in, not doing this month, for clarity

midnight depot
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Got it. Let me know if you want to join next time, but I'll drop your file

bright hatch
midnight depot
#

That leaves us with 19 games

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That's a lot for a three week thing. Hope everything goes well

weary lagoon
#

Llisandurs mom is joining this month thats nice

midnight depot
#

It's Llisandur playing Mother

weary lagoon
#

Octy has a lot on their plate

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but their wind waker settings seemed kind

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you should change it to start without sword without them knowing though, thats the essence of a WW rando

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love throwing pots at enemies for half the game

fresh hill
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you should see what swordless start does to Tunic

weary lagoon
#

thats just another zelda game so I assume its the same

midnight depot
#

I did consider plando themed games

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KeyError: 'Could not find option "braintank" for "Goal", known options are asylum_brain_tank, brain_hunt, asylum_brain_tank_and_brain_hunt'

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Did I not install the apworld correctly?

fresh hill
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oh whoops that's my fault

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change it to "asylum_brain_tank"

midnight depot
#

Got it

fresh hill
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I misremembered the option name

fresh hill
#

but the real consequence is that you can't cut through bushes without the sword

midnight depot
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I assumed the name changed and you set it to the new name but I'm on the old apworld

fresh hill
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#1 Tunic rando new player question is how to get past the damn bushes rdsnrk

midnight depot
#

I need a different font for reading YAMLs

weary lagoon
#

how do you get past them

midnight depot
#

gM destroys my eyes

fresh hill
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there's two main ways, a) knowing some of the game's secrets provides a way to get a few free bombs right from the start, and b) you can bait enemies into cutting bushes for you

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iirc in later versions the rando devs added c) a menu option that just deletes the goddamn bushes so people would stop asking rdlol

midnight depot
#

The classic "get demolishers to destroy cliffs for you before you unlock cliff explosives" trick

fresh hill
#

the more serious issue for me though is that running past all the enemies just isn't very fun; next time I do Tunic I'll probably be rolling an early non-sword starting weapon

ancient harness
#

A fun rando for Tunic would be if you could rando the Golden Path, then make that the goal

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But I guess the clues for it would have to be taken out of the manual and put somewhere else

midnight depot
#

Who made this fucking font

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This is unreadable

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In the end it turns out good old Roboto Mono was the best option

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And now that my mind is clear from this task, I realize I haven't updated Ape Escape yet

proven holly
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last time I tried it I ended up quitting out at forsaken fortress just because of how it was designed but that should not happen this time

midnight depot
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Wind Waker sucks at me. People like the art style a lot but I can't stand it

proven holly
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cel shading is one of my favorite techniques

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part of why my favorite Zelda is spirit tracks

weary lagoon
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spirit tracks...

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have you played it on the DS

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the flute is the worst video game mechanic of all time

proven holly
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never got to play it outside of emulator, no

weary lagoon
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maybe that makes it playable

midnight depot
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Okay, last pass to see if everyone's here.
Octy: Submitted SC2, TWW, HK. Present.
Llisandur: FF1, FF4, Tunic, Earthbound. Present.
Kratta: OoT. Present.
Plucky: Dropped out for the month.
Wcctnoam: Hollow Knight -- Good luck! Present.
Dr. Romulus: Mostly the same settings as before. Present.
ClearrPony: Undertale. Present.
Artiks: Pokemon Emerald. Present.
Ixrec: Psychonauts, Soul Reaver Manual, A Hat in Time. Present.
Me: Ape Escape, Golden Sun, OoT. Present

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That's everyone accounted for. Let's generate

fresh hill
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may be too preoccupied to participate but I'll try to at least double-check Psychonauts is working after gen

wet field
midnight depot
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Pin updated

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I'll ping everyone

ancient harness
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Alright, looks like I'm first up to bat. Let's see what if anything I can accomplish

slow moth
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I'm playing now too

midnight depot
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@weary lagoon, @fresh hill, @cold valve, @proven holly, @tender pelican the game is up! Play at your own pace, and tell me if you need anything. The goal is to finish before February 25.

ancient harness
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Ah, only down-slash, so this is the real split-nail experience

midnight depot
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Wait a fucking second

ancient harness
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Last time by the time I started I had one side and also mothwings

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Bombchus for someone

midnight depot
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WHY do we have two FlitterOoTs?

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What the fuck is this?

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There's only one copy of the game and the YAML

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Is this an archipelago bug with manual apworlds or something?

weary lagoon
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only one flitteroot on the game page

fresh hill
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the room only lists one FlitterOoT

midnight depot
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Yes

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But the items are duplicated

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See the hints

weary lagoon
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did you set items to be plentiful

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that adds 2 of everything right

fresh hill
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I forget what the hotfix was about

midnight depot
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Oh!

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Plentiful is on

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It had a 9% chance to turn on

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It just never did before

ancient harness
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Are we resetting?

midnight depot
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False alarm

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Keep going

weary lagoon
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Pokemon Emerald has how many checks

ancient harness
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Zora Tunic for Flitter

weary lagoon
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POKEMON EMERALD HAS HOW MANY CHECKS

ancient harness
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Moonveil for FF4 if that's any good

midnight depot
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Oh yeah I was about to comment about that

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Emerald has 841 checks

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Soul Reaver has 33

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OoT has 765

proven holly
ancient harness
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Angler Key for Rom, I think that's bad news for OW

midnight depot
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Here are the settings everyone used

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(In case you randomize them like I do)

proven holly
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last time my partner played Emerald he only had 371 checks

weary lagoon
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Every trainer is a check thats a cool setting they have

midnight depot
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Oh at least you don't have dexsanity

weary lagoon
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another cool setting is every battle has a 15% chance to be a double battle

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No ICANT

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Id never

proven holly
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ok time to make new wind waker disc

ancient harness
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Wcct's Iselda shop (store):
LisandurFox's Phonomath
Kroot's Ocarina
LisandurMom's Red Ribbon?
Ixrec's Progressive Marksmanship
A bunch of stuff I know is not important

weary lagoon
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shout out to wcct

midnight depot
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:didyouknow:

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Why Let's play Ape Escape

fresh hill
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Ixnaut sent Elegant_Key to octyKnight ((BT Main) Outside Caravan)

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ok yeah Psychonauts works fine

weary lagoon
ancient harness
ancient harness
proven holly
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growlithe gang

weary lagoon
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the fish is really good right

midnight depot
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Growlithe is a cutie, Carpinha is strong

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Paras fucking sucks

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Pick Growlithe

weary lagoon
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Arcanine is better than Carpinha i think

midnight depot
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By the time you have Arcanine you'll probably have found a Mewtwo

ancient harness
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Yeah I was memeing

weary lagoon
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the thing is water type is special this gen theres no special split yet

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so the 110 attack is kinda wasted

midnight depot
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Where the fuck are my mailboxes?

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They're all invisible!

weary lagoon
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the first battle isnt randoed

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I guess its so you dont get stuck on the first required fight

ancient harness
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Wcct's grub rewards (store):
LisandurFF4's Masamune, sounds good since it's a famouse sword
Kroot's Spirt Temple key
Ixre'cs Max Ammo increase
Ixrec's Clem's Brain?
LisandurMom's Yogurt?
LisandurFox's Gold Questagon?
Bunch of unimportant stuff

weary lagoon
midnight depot
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Spirit Temple Key and Gold Quesagon are important

weary lagoon
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this hinted automatically when I got Growlithe ppenk

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this might be a good addition to my team

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Oh, I dont get to name May in this game, so no Rival Flitter

midnight depot
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That's okay because my name happens to be May

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FlitterAE sent Kid Coach's Mind to Ixnaut (Time Station Mailbox - Welcome! (Main))
FlitterAE sent Swim to octyKnight (Time Station Mailbox - Save Station (Main))
FlitterAE sent Grubberfly's_Elegy to octyKnight (Time Station Mailbox - Training Space (Gadget Training))
FlitterAE sent Reaper to octy_SC2 (Time Station Mailbox - Mini Game Corner (Mini Game Corner))

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Octy is saved

proven holly
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swim pog

wet field
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I'm gonna get some pizza and then probably play after

midnight depot
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Ape Escape is in BK mode

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Tomorrow I will play some OoT

weary lagoon
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this might be tough

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Nvm, no water moves

proven holly
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so far i have found two items, both for myself in HK lol

wet field
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give krøt a knife

proven holly
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octyTWW sent Lili's Bracelet to Ixnaut (The Great Sea - Salvage Corp Gift)

ancient harness
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Time for to beat Mawlek with nothing

weary lagoon
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ArtiksPKMN sent Silver Rupee to octyTWW (Littleroot Town - Pokeballs from Rival)

proven holly
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who just filled my wallet lmao

weary lagoon
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Better go spend that before your wallets full

proven holly
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too late

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silver is 200 in TWW and starter wallet is also 200

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so it just fills it immediately :P

slow moth
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I stopped for now, halfway through ruin, but I'll get on again later today

midnight depot
ancient harness
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Anyone currently on with Deathlink besides me?

midnight depot
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Me

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Well

weary lagoon
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no it would suck hard in pkmn

midnight depot
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I just closed the game

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If you want, you can tell me your schedule and I will make an effort to play OoT or Ape Escape when you're playing, but not today because Sunday is gonna be a very long day

weary lagoon
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hookshot

ancient harness
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The only-down-slash strat for Mawlek is sooooo funny

midnight depot
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And it works pretty well

ancient harness
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Yeah just this perfect angle where you hover

midnight depot
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Lots of bosses have a jank downslash strat that actually works

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My favorite is what's his name

ancient harness
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Light Arrows for Kroot

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Kroot's in go-mode now

midnight depot
#

Soul Tyrant

ancient harness
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But he teleports all the time?

proven holly
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octyTWW sent Swarm Queen to octy_SC2 (Windfall Island - Mila - Follow the Thief) zerg in go mode /s

midnight depot
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He does. The key is that downslashing helps you get away from almost all of his attack hitboxes

proven holly
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i did find it funny how a lot of the game was easier without upslash

midnight depot
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The "dash side to side attack with projectiles circling the boss" is the one where downslash is not good for

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All the others are made easier with downslash, but slower

weary lagoon
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this lvl 7 trainer just used full restore

midnight depot
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The worst boss for downslash is probably Marmu

midnight depot
weary lagoon
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maybe I make this my water guy

midnight depot
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Do you have randomized abilities?

weary lagoon
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nah

midnight depot
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Huge Power is great. Polywag is fine but I would not take it without huge power

weary lagoon
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im gonna pass im not a huge polywrath fan

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ArtiksPKMN sent Rutos Letter to FlitterOoT (Petalburg Woods - Bug Catcher Lyle)

#

big

ancient harness
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Nepo trainer

weary lagoon
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ArtiksPKMN sent Ocarina to kay are oh oh te (Route 104 - TM09 from Boy)

midnight depot
#

Huge

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Both Ruto's Letter and an Ocarina

ancient harness
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HUGE grub

weary lagoon
midnight depot
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Eat your heart out, Wooloo

ancient harness
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Dekut stick capacity for Kroot

ancient harness
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A whole house for LisandurFF1

proven holly
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octyTWW sent Room 1 Key to ArtiksPKMN (Windfall Island - Jail - Tingle - First Gift)

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finally, something not for myself

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octyTWW sent Blaze to FlitterGS (Windfall Island - Maggie - Free Item)

weary lagoon
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ArtiksPKMN sent Pegasus Boots to La DxRomulus (Route 116 - Item in Grass) yooo

midnight depot
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Hell yeah

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Blaze fucking sucks, but it comes into use in the very final dungeon so it's technically a go mode item

proven holly
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... and the cable for my controller just died ded

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no HK or TWW for now i guess lol

midnight depot
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The PS4 is a great controller but the cable for it is very bad

proven holly
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i have one of the xbox controllers

midnight depot
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That's why I usually play with bluetooth

proven holly
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technically its wireless but it sucks

midnight depot
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And charge using the cable

weary lagoon
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ArtiksPKMN sent Defender's_Crest to Wcctnoam (Route 116 - School Kid Karen) LETSGOOO

ancient harness
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Wow

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The poo charm is my first charm and it's 2 whole pips

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At least I can use it

proven holly
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octy_SC2 sent Ocarina to La DxRomulus (Lab Rat: Gather Minerals)

weary lagoon
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I defeated my first gym leader I guess

ancient harness
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Classic Youngster Joey

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His Ratata is legendary

weary lagoon
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I got the 15% chance double battle on the first gym leader

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our battle will be legendary

midnight depot
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Trapinch is in Emerald?

ancient harness
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Grepa berry for Artiks letsfuckinggo

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Weaversong for myself is actually huge. That doubles or triples my DPS

midnight depot
#

Oh wait, Emerald is the Ruby Sapphire gen

ancient harness
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And uses my soul which I can't use otherwise

weary lagoon
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wtf is this

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mf pulls out a Dugtrio with earthquake in first gym and one shots me

ancient harness
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Level 14 Dugtrio, cheating like that one Executive in B&W

weary lagoon
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She chose not to use earthquake on the 2nd try so I won

ancient harness
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Wcct's Sly shop (store):
Slingshot for Flitter
World Key for FlitterAE?
Ixnaut's Vernon's Brain?
Ixnaut's Psicard?
The rest is fodder

midnight depot
#

Big

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World Keys are new levels

proven holly
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octy_SC2 sent Grimmkin_Flame to Wcctnoam (The Great Train Robbery: South Defiler)

weary lagoon
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good bird name

midnight depot
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True

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Birds flit

cold valve
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Some of them

weary lagoon
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Fuck you May

midnight depot
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I guess flightless birds don't

ancient harness
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Wcct's Salubra (store):
DxRom's Small Key (Key Cavern)
LisandurFF4's Ancient Sword?
LisandurMom's Talisman Ribbon?
FliiterOoT's Spirit Temple Boss Key
Artik's TM23?
LisandurFox's Key
Bunch of stuff

midnight depot
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Ancient sword and masamune should not be important. Thanks for spirit temple key

weary lagoon
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Oh I just realised it was a total coincidence that wcct hinted the fire stone just as I got growlithe lol

ancient harness
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Yeah I would've mentioned any evo stone regardless

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Who knows when they could be useful

weary lagoon
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ArtiksPKMN sent Pizza to LlisandurMom (Route 106 - Fisherman Ned)

ancient harness
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Weaver charm literally giving me access to Greenpath despite still having nothing

weary lagoon
midnight depot
#

He lost weight

ancient harness
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Two things for Octy that sounded good, couldn't read fast enough

wet field
weary lagoon
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Growlithe might be getting replaced day 1..

ancient harness
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Understandable

weary lagoon
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Meet Krøt 2

wet field
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So nice they made it twice

ancient harness
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I beat the Vengeful Fly that's holding Zote without spawning the fight (my Weavers killed it)

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Zote disappeared

proven holly
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octy_SC2 sent TM44 to ArtiksPKMN (The Spear of Adun: Close Warp Gate)

ancient harness
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I hope it counts as freeing him, if it matters

weary lagoon
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oh that tm23 you hinted earlier is iron tail

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I guess that would be cool on Pikachu

ancient harness
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It's not a bad move to have early game

midnight depot
proven holly
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octy_SC2 sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (The Spear of Adun: North Warp Gate)

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octy_SC2 sent Reveal to FlitterGS (The Spear of Adun: West Warp Gate)

ancient harness
#

Time for Silksong to get dunked on

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FlitterOoT's Saria Song

midnight depot
proven holly
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octy_SC2 sent Time Piece to Ixhat (Sky Shield: East Raynor Base)

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octy_SC2 sent World Key to FlitterAE (Rendezvous: Left Queen)

ancient harness
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Worst deal in the history of deals, maybe ever

weary lagoon
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Emerald in BK mode

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I need Devon goods to progress

proven holly
weary lagoon
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or a bike

proven holly
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i think i'm going to call SC2 BK'd for now, i might be able to squeeze out a few more checks but it's likely it'll be much easier soon

ancient harness
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Alright that's BK for me

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The combat skill challenge is fun as always, but the few tricks I had to learn to reach stuff marked as "reachable" turned out to be "die at the right spot then pogo on your shade", which is boring after the second time

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Hoping it spices up

slow moth
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I think I missed a check in ruin

midnight depot
#

Just go back there later

slow moth
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I did go get it, but I don't think it counted

midnight depot
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If you were connected it should count

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You can tell me what it was called and I'll check if it's important and force send it if necessary (tomorrow)

slow moth
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"Toy Knife Edge" I think, unless that's not the one in ruin.

midnight depot
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If you didn't send a check because you weren't connected archipelago usually sends it later when you send another check

slow moth
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ah k

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Don't think I can do anything rn tho, it locks the other areas and the keys are in other games

midnight depot
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Don't worry about it. Just check if you can play every day or so

slow moth
#

k

proven holly
#

controller cable acquired

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octyTWW sent Carrot Key to LlisandurMom (Northern Fairy Island - Great Fairy)

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i guess the Killer Bees are pokemon trainers now... octyTWW sent Repeat Ball to ArtiksPKMN (Windfall Island - Ivan - Catch Killer Bees)

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octyTWW sent HM07 Waterfall to ArtiksPKMN (Windfall Island - Mrs. Marie - Catch Killer Bees)

weary lagoon
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thanks, waterfall is pretty late game

proven holly
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octyTWW sent Silent Running Mode to dr rOWmulus (Dragon Roost Cavern - First Room)

fresh hill
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apparently your shops contain only Psychonauts items so: psi cards and (many) brains are not important, the badges like Progressive Marksmanship are like the OoT Bow where the 1st one is huge core progression and all later levels are a nice but unimportant upgrade

proven holly
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TWW is BK'd

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octyKnight sent Straight Jacket to Ixnaut (Geo_Rock-King's_Pass_Left)

fresh hill
#

cool, that's one of the final area keys

proven holly
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octyKnight sent Small Key Ring (Gerudo Training Ground) to FlitterOoT (Geo_Rock-King's_Pass_Below_Fury)

fresh hill
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now that I'm free to actually play some games, I'm gonna start with Soul Reaver because a) I forgot I uninstalled AHiT rdwut b) SR1 has only 1 location in sphere 1, and it'd be nice to get the tutorial and first few fast travel points out of the way before someone finds a prog item; Psychonauts is way more open (esp with random first brain) so I'll be relatively free to do however much or little I feel like of that

proven holly
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octyKnight sent Progressive Wallet to FlitterOoT (Grubfather_1)

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octyKnight sent Rat Tail to LlisandurFF4 (Geo_Rock-Crossroads_Aspid_Arena_Dupe_2)

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slug slug slug slug octyKnight sent Shape_of_Unn to Wcctnoam (Geo_Rock-Crossroads_Aspid_Arena)

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lol octyKnight found their Void_Heart (Geo_Rock-Crossroads_Goam_Alcove)

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octyKnight sent Relic (Green Crayon) to Ixhat (Geo_Rock-Crossroads_Before_Glowing_Womb)

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octyKnight sent Nocturne of Shadow to FlitterOoT (Grub-Crossroads_Acid)

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wow my shops suck so far lol

fresh hill
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ok, so it takes ~31 minutes for me to get from new SR1 file to beating Melchiah

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Ixrec sent World Key to FlitterAE (Necropolis Melchiah Fight)
All 1 accessible locations have been checked! Congrats!

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oh neat I actually got something useful from it

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in Psychonauts, I can do... all of BTE (thanks for Marksmanship) and BB, and a little of BV, probably won't do all of that tonight but let's do at least one whole brain

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Ixnaut sent Bait Bag to octyTWW ((BT Main) Behind Thorn Tower Right)

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ok, BTE and BB complete (except for luggage tags)

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Ixnaut sent Key to the Tower to LlisandurMom ((BB Area 2) Giant Soldier Cut-Out)
Ixnaut sent HM01 Cut to ArtiksPKMN ((BB Area 2) Pole-Swinging Tutorial)
Ixnaut sent Gerudo Membership Card to FlitterOoT ((BB Finale) End of Obstacle Course Right)

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I think that's all the important progression

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Ixnaut sent Progressive Bow to octyTWW ((CA Ford) Bottom of Sanctuary)
nice, cleaning up the few free overworld checks was the right call

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Ixnaut sent Sheba to FlitterGS ((CA Ford) Top of Sanctuary)
no clue if this is important

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that's enough Psychonauts for now, not BK'd, but only leaving part of one level (BV) undone

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now let's make sure AHiT works

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ok cool it's fine

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Ixhat sent Left_Crystal_Heart to Wcctnoam (Mafia Town - Beneath Scaffolding)

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for a "just one location" test item that was pretty good

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looks like a typical early MT seed, I'll do the MT clear next time

ancient harness
midnight depot
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Sheba is one of seven characters you find

weary lagoon
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thanks for Cut

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I'll need to find the first badge to use it

ancient harness
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Let's see what I can do with half a crystal heart

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One check stpc_pppog

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HUGE 15 geo for Octy

weary lagoon
#

TIL when Ganondorf charges up his mega multi orb move in OoT and you spin attack to send them all back at him

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You can actually just shoot him with the light arrow when he's charging

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I just finished the no logic GDQ run, took 3 treadmill sessions

midnight depot
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That's way cooler than dodging

weary lagoon
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you dodge the attack?

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thats beta energy lil bro

midnight depot
#

I don't care. I want to finish the fight without having to climb up

weary lagoon
#

climb up?

midnight depot
#

Yeah? If you get hit with the big attack it destroys the platforms you're under

weary lagoon
#

ah

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ive always stood in the indestructible corners ever since I was a kid

midnight depot
#

Or maybe he has another attack that does it

fresh hill
#

I don't even remember what I did the one time I played it

midnight depot
#

Standing in the indestructible corners is good but then you can't roll then jumpslash to get a big hit on him because sometimes you miss

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Standing in the middle is more reliable for dealing damage fast

weary lagoon
#

makes sense

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ZFG just stood on the middle platform with ganon