#Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer

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cold valve
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La DxRomulus sent Ladder to Beneath the Vault to LlisandurFox (Mirror Shield Chest (Eagle's Tower))

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La DxRomulus sent Charm Rod to LlisandurFF4 (Switch Wrapped Chest (Eagle's Tower))

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La DxRomulus sent Gold Questagon to LlisandurFox (Evil Eagle Heart Container (Eagle's Tower))

cold valve
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[Hint]: La DxRomulus's Face Key is at Market Potion Shop Item 7 in FlitterOoT's World at Kak Backyard -> Kak Potion Shop Back. (not found)

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[Hint]: La DxRomulus's Progressive Power Bracelet is at Twilight Theatre - Locked Door in YayRemovePants's World. (not found)

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seems boots are my biggest blocker at the moment

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those are in Tunic

sage dawn
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Twilight theater's going to be hard unless I got more items while offline.

midnight depot
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Hi. let's play Ape Escape

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Ah shit the port changed

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44837

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Pin updated

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Thanks for the gadgets

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I have everything except the time net and super hoop

wet field
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And those escaped apes

midnight depot
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Yeah I need the net for most of them

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I have eight total because I can catch underwater ones

midnight depot
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Back in BK mode

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Let's play OoT

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Wait, first

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I gotta fix the poptracker pack

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It's consuming more GPU time than the game

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Ah

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I fixed it by changing to software renderer, and setting the refresh rate to 15 times per second instead of 120 for some reason

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Why was poptracker updating 120 times a second? It should be updating like once a second

midnight depot
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Setting it to once a second makes it too unresponsive.

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Setting it to thrice a second is good

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Cut down my GPU load from 70% to 0.8%

midnight depot
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NOW let's play

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Thanks for Iron Boots, boomerang, zora tunic, deku shield, big bomb bag, kokiri sword, bottle, megaton hammer, water temple key ring, bolero of fire, blue fire arrows, longshot, din's fire, light arrows, big quiver, biggoron sword, golden gauntlets, mirror shield, claim check, zelda's lullaby, water temple boss key, silver scale, GTG small key ring, another bottle, double defense, spirit temple boss key, shadow temple key ring, song of storms, lens of truth, prelude of light, fairy ocarina!

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My fingers hurt from all this typing.

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Let's go for dr rOWmulus's Launch Codes is at Bottom of the Well Freestanding Key in FlitterOoT's World at KF Outside Deku Tree -> Deku Tree Lobby. (not found)

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WTF

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Other than the launch codes it's all trash

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Dumpster capital of the world

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Well I also found a second bow for Meganought

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Oh my warp songs are randomized

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Prelude of light takes me to the goron shop in desert colossus, requiem of spirit takes me to graveyard, bolero of fire takes me to my house, minuet of forest takes me to the great fairy fountain on top of death mountain trail

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That makes three out of four useless or redundant songs

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FlitterOoT sent Ladders near Patrol Cave to LlisandurFox (Hideout 1 Torch Jail Gerudo Key)

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FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Fire Temple) to MeganOOT (LH Deku Scrub Grotto Right)

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Wow, Dampe has all sorts of freak shit in his hut

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This shop has the ghost matter wave length for 155 rupees, shard for 200 rupees, Meganought's beans for 100 rupees

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Can't buy any of them

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Gold Questagon to LlisandurFox (ZR Frogs Suns Song) finally an item

lament tusk
midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Gerudo Training Ground) to MeganOOT (KF GS Bean Patch) No key rings?

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FlitterOoT sent Crown to LlisandurFF1 (LH GS Lab Wall)

lament tusk
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I find keys more fun

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I'm already at 60% of my checks done, so...

tender pelican
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[Hint]: LlisandurFF4's Tower Key is at Mask-Mimic Chest (Bottle Grotto) in La DxRomulus's World. (not found)
[Hint]: LlisandurFF4's TwinHarp is at Fire Temple Volvagia Heart in FlitterOoT's World at Lake Hylia -> Water Temple Lobby. (not found)
[Hint]: LlisandurFF4's Baron Key is at Deku Tree Queen Gohma Heart in FlitterOoT's World at Zoras Fountain -> Jabu Jabus Belly Beginning. (not found)
[Hint]: LlisandurFF4's Pass is at ZD Shop Item 8 in FlitterOoT's World at Kak Backyard -> Kak Odd Medicine Building. (not found)
These four hints are all I need to complete FF4.

midnight depot
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Can't do any of them yet

cold valve
midnight depot
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Wow, treasure game was RRRRL

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[Hint]: LlisandurFF1's Oxyale is at Forest Temple Frozen Eye Switch Room Pot 2 in FlitterOoT's World at Ganons Castle Grounds -> Ganons Castle Lobby. (not found)

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Water temple is shadow temple

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FlitterOoT sent Magic Meter to MeganOOT (Shadow Temple Invisible Blades Visible Chest)

lament tusk
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Nice

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I need that

tender pelican
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BK in FF1. Need [Hint]: LlisandurFF1's Floater is at Water Temple GS Falling Platform Room in MeganOOT's World. (not found) to do pretty much anything else.

midnight depot
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Thanks for world key

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[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Magic Meter is at 2-2 Dark Ruins Monkey 11 - Kenny in FlitterAE's World. (not found) Need my magic to get the last check in Shadow Temple

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent TwinHarp to LlisandurFF4 (Fire Temple Volvagia Heart)

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[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Progressive Wallet is at Frog's Domain - Side Room Grapple Secret in LlisandurFox's World. (not found)

tender pelican
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[Hint]: LlisandurFox's Ladders to Frog's Domain is at Ganons Castle Light Trial Third Left Chest in FlitterOoT's World at SFM Forest Temple Entrance Ledge -> Forest Temple Lobby. (not found) Need this for the wallet.

midnight depot
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I think I can go there right now

lament tusk
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more bombs! neat

midnight depot
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Okay, I'm in ganon's castle

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Light trial third left chest

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FlitterOoT sent Ladders to Frog's Domain to LlisandurFox (Ganons Castle Light Trial Third Left Chest)

tender pelican
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Ok, loading up.

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Angler's Tunnel) to La DxRomulus (Ganons Castle Shadow Trial Front Chest)

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That's everything I can do in Ganon's castle

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I need magic to finish the trials, and fire arrows for shadow trial

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All trials have checks in them since they have two pots

tender pelican
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LlisandurFox sent Progressive Wallet to FlitterOoT (Frog's Domain - Side Room Grapple Secret)

midnight depot
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Thanks for wallet

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Now I can get all those pesky shop checks

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Let's go for Pass

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FlitterOoT sent Pass to LlisandurFF4 (ZD Shop Item 8)

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FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Bottle Grotto) to La DxRomulus (KF Know it All House Pot 2)

lament tusk
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oh apparently your water temple holds my longshot flitter. so i'd apreciate it being a priority once you can get there

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Face Key to La DxRomulus (Market Potion Shop Item 7)

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Will do!

midnight depot
lament tusk
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no

midnight depot
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I probably can figure it out

lament tusk
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its only day like 6, im in no rush

midnight depot
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Oh I already wrote it down

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It's Spirit Temple

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FlitterOoT sent Tornado Aerodynamic Adjustments to dr rOWmulus (GC Shop Item 6)
FlitterOoT sent Super Hoop to FlitterAE (ZD Shop Item 5)

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From this specific angle and location, you can jumpslash left, and when you go past the narrow shaft into the wide one, jumpslash

tender pelican
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LlisandurFox sent Progressive Wallet to FlitterOoT (Quarry - [East] Near Telescope)
Wallet again. XD

midnight depot
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Allowing you to get to this spot with no items other than ocarina and zelda's lullaby

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Oh thanks, I needed that for some more checks

lament tusk
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thank

midnight depot
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Thanks for Epona's song

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That's every song except two random warps

lament tusk
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i got it from shadow with the longshot

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Cube to LlisandurFF1 (Water Temple Compass Chest)

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FlitterOoT sent Scout to dr rOWmulus (Water Temple GS Near Boss Key Chest)

lament tusk
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did my emulator freeze?

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damnit

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i dont remmeber when i last saved

cold valve
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La DxRomulus sent Tower Key to LlisandurFF4 (Mask-Mimic Chest (Bottle Grotto))

midnight depot
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Time to fight dark link

midnight depot
lament tusk
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damnit i hadnt saved since before you got me my longshot

cold valve
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La DxRomulus sent Dath Stone to LlisandurFox (Mermaid Statue (Martha's Bay))

midnight depot
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Morpha is bongo bongo

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Always fun to time this fight without lens of truth

tender pelican
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I thought I sent the lens of truth to someone?

midnight depot
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To me, but I need magic to use it

tender pelican
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Oh, I see. XD

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Color Dungeon) to La DxRomulus (Shadow Temple Bongo Bongo Heart)

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I will stop here

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OoT is 43% done

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Next time, I will get this FlitterAE's Time Net is at Market Bazaar Item 7 in FlitterOoT's World at Hyrule Castle Grounds -> HC Great Fairy Fountain. (not found)

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Then play Ape Escape

lament tusk
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im calling it here too, i dont have many checks atm anyway

tender pelican
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I still have a few in Tunic but I don't feel like doing them right now. Already played for a couple hours.

cold valve
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[Hint]: La DxRomulus's Nightmare Key (Angler's Tunnel) is at Library Lab - Page 3 in LlisandurFox's World. (not found)

tender pelican
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Lmao that's hilarious. Yang, who normally sacrifices himself to destroy the cannon in the underground tower, is instead the boss that I'm fighting there. XD

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Just need this for my last FF4 objective: [Hint]: LlisandurFF4's Baron Key is at Deku Tree Queen Gohma Heart in FlitterOoT's World at Zoras Fountain -> Jabu Jabus Belly Beginning. (not found)

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[Hint]: LlisandurFox's Ladders in South Atoll is at Castle Sansa - Balcony in YayRemovePants's World. (not found) Need this to get Rom's thing.

midnight depot
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I have not found Zora's fountIn

tender pelican
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No hurry. It's only the 9th. :P

lament tusk
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did a quick check, grabbed a few items for others but no items unlocked for me
thats fine

cold valve
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I may have time tonight to play outer wilds, we'll see how awake i am after the stream and errands

lament tusk
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its only the 10th and i've done more than 60% of my game, its fine

sage dawn
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Cleaned out my in logic stuff

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Kinda glad I didn't get cling gem early this time

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Learning how to wall jump better.

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And do forward backflips

midnight depot
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Hell yeah

sage dawn
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Oh shit got your Ganon's boss key

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Realized something was showing as out of logic because the tracker doesn't expect me to savescum keys

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And to be fair I less savescum keys and more savewarp out of the end of the key area

midnight depot
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Oh good

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I need light arrows and I think that's all I need to finish the game (with trial skip)

midnight depot
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Hi

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Let's play OoT, with the aim of finding my time net

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Thanks for Ganon's Castle key ring, Serenade of Water, Ganon's Castle boss key

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So let's look at the hints:
LlisandurFF1's Oxyale is at Forest Temple Frozen Eye Switch Room Pot 2 in FlitterOoT's World at Ganons Castle Grounds -> Ganons Castle Lobby. (not found)
LlisandurFF4's Baron Key is at Deku Tree Queen Gohma Heart in FlitterOoT's World at Zoras Fountain -> Jabu Jabus Belly Beginning. (not found)
FlitterAE's Time Net is at Market Bazaar Item 7 in FlitterOoT's World at Hyrule Castle Grounds -> HC Great Fairy Fountain. (not found)

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First one is inaccessible

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Need rainbow bridge

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FlitterOoT sent Ghost Matter Wavelength to dr rOWmulus (Kak Bazaar Item 7)

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FlitterOoT sent Magic Bean Pack to MeganOOT (Kak Bazaar Item 6)

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Spirit Temple) to MeganOOT (Hideout 2 Torch Jail In Cell Pot 4)

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Hmm

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Is this dress black and blue or white and gold?

tender pelican
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Lol.

midnight depot
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Sad Mido's house

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Normally it's full of progression items since it's early

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Now it has nothing since it's all the way out in the end of the world

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FlitterOoT sent Ladders in Library to LlisandurFox (Hideout 4 Torch Jail Pot 1)

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Maintenance time

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Ice cavern is fire temple

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FlitterOoT sent Feldspar's Signal to dr rOWmulus (GC Shop Item 5)

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Experimenting with paying Dampe money to get him to dig stuff up

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Return on rupees is near zero. It's not too slow but worse than just cutting bushes

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You're also liable to get long bad luck streaks and lose all your money

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Jabu Jabu's belly is deku tree

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Gohma is dead

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FlitterOoT sent Baron Key to LlisandurFF4 (Deku Tree Queen Gohma Heart)

midnight depot
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Let's do the five froggish tenors song: A◄ ► ▼ ◄ ► ▼ A ▼ A ▼ ► ◄ A

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FlitterOoT sent Time Net to FlitterAE (Market Bazaar Item 7)

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FlitterOoT found their Small Key Ring (Bottom of the Well) (Market Bazaar Item 8)
FlitterOoT sent Progressive Slide to YayRemovePants (Market Bazaar Item 5)

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I will stop here, at 54.38%

lament tusk
tender pelican
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LlisandurFF4 (Team #1) has completed their goal.

lament tusk
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wow

tender pelican
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Maybe next time I'll do 20 objectives. I think I had 12 this time. Although, I only had like, one dungeon left undone.

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I think the end stats said 31/34 bosses.

lament tusk
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i thought i was doing well with my 60% completion

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but i;ve only done the child dungeons, those dont ned any keys

tender pelican
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FF4 is actually pretty fast. There's not just a whole lot of gates.

midnight depot
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It is a pretty heavy restructuring of the game to make it fast enough to be done in a synced competitive setting

midnight depot
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Hi

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Let's play Ape Escape

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I have the time net, so expect lots and lots of quick checks

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FlitterAE sent Nocturne of Shadow to FlitterOoT (1-3 Molten Lava Monkey 3 - J. Thomas)

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FlitterAE sent Slime Key to La DxRomulus (2-1 Thick Jungle Monkey 14 - Zanzibar)
FlitterAE sent Gold Questagon to LlisandurFox (2-1 Thick Jungle Monkey 5 - Herb)
FlitterAE sent Golden Coin to LlisandurFox (2-1 Thick Jungle Monkey 13 - Alphonse)

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Fucking bullshit

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You cannot sneak on this monkey and grab him before he enters the tree mech

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He is literally intangible

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There's another one in the same situation that's not intangible

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FlitterAE sent Nightmare Key (Color Dungeon) to La DxRomulus (2-1 Thick Jungle Monkey 11 - Elehcim)

bright hatch
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Why does this game look familiar…did I play this as a kid and just forget entirely?

midnight depot
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Ape Escape!

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Play Station 1

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FlitterAE sent Escape Pod 3 Signal to dr rOWmulus (2-2 Dark Ruins Monkey 10 - Papou)
FlitterAE sent Magic Meter to FlitterOoT (2-2 Dark Ruins Monkey 11 - Kenny)
FlitterAE sent Ocarina to La DxRomulus (2-2 Dark Ruins Monkey 9 - Hoolah)

midnight depot
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I will stop here

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FlitterAE sent Magic Meter to FlitterOoT (2-3 Cryptic Relics Monkey 6 - Jesta)
[Hint]: FlitterAE's Progressive Water Net is at Sea Shrine Sharknado Floor (B4) - Greed Room 3 in LlisandurFF1's World. (not found)

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[Hint]: FlitterAE's World Key is at Kak Potion Shop Item 8 in FlitterOoT's World at Market Entrance -> Market Guard House. (not found)
[Hint]: FlitterAE's World Key is at Song from Impa in FlitterOoT's World. (not found)
[Hint]: FlitterAE's World Key is at Kak Potion Shop Item 5 in FlitterOoT's World at Market Entrance -> Market Guard House. (not found)

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These are my final progression items

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If I have all four I can finish the game

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The tracker is getting more helpful, which is nice because Universal Tracker doesn't support level randomization

cold valve
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La DxRomulus sent Small Key Ring (Fire Temple) to FlitterOoT (Moldorm Heart Container (Tail Cave))

midnight depot
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Oh thanks. I was complaining earlier I couldn't do anything in fire temple

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With these keys I can do all of it except the boss

cold valve
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La DxRomulus sent Magma Key to LlisandurFF4 (Genie Heart Container (Bottle Grotto))

cold valve
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ok finally time to play outer wilds

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dr rOWmulus sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Scan Any Distress Beacon)

cold valve
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dr rOWmulus sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (AR: Riebeck's Signal Locator Recorder)

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dr rOWmulus sent Ladders in Hourglass Cave to LlisandurFox (GD: Scan Island Shard Signal)

cold valve
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dr rOWmulus sent Jacket to FlitterAE (GD: Enter the Core)

midnight depot
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Lmao thanks

cold valve
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dr rOWmulus sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (HL: Volcanic Testing Site (Text Wall))

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dr rOWmulus sent Golden Coin to LlisandurFox (BH: Old Settlement Murals)

cold valve
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dr rOWmulus sent Scavenger Mask to LlisandurFox (Sun Station (Projection Stone Text))

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@tender pelican how important is this? [Hint]: LlisandurFox's Gold Questagon is at Ruptured Core (Text Wheel) in dr rOWmulus's World. (not found)

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@fresh hill look at this horseshit

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and i was on a time limit this run too

wispy sigil
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and Rom got double ship damage trapped earlier
I witnessed both rdsnrk

tender pelican
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Questagon is how I beat the game. Probably not too important because there should be more than I need.

cold valve
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dr rOWmulus sent Fire Arrows to FlitterOoT (BH: Tower (Top Floor Text Wall))

midnight depot
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Hell yeah those are really handy

cold valve
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dr rOWmulus sent ATT Offering to LlisandurFox (BH: Visit Hanging City)

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dr rOWmulus sent Bomb Bag to FlitterOoT (BH: Solanum's Class Report (2nd Scroll))

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dr rOWmulus sent Sacred Geometry to LlisandurFox (BH: Riebeck's Southern Observatory Recorder)

midnight depot
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Not sure if I already have a bomb bag or not

cold valve
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dr rOWmulus sent Fairy to LlisandurFox (BH: Forge (2nd Scroll))

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dr rOWmulus sent Gold Questagon to LlisandurFox (BH: Riebeck's Surface Campsite Note)

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different one

tender pelican
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I need 7 more.

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:P

cold valve
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hint time!

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[Hint]: dr rOWmulus's Warp Core Installation Manual is at Sheik at Temple in FlitterOoT's World at Lake Hylia -> LH Lab. (not found)

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[Hint]: dr rOWmulus's Shrine Door Codes is at Sky Fortress Spider (2F) - Incentive in LlisandurFF1's World. (not found)

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[Hint]: dr rOWmulus's Silent Running Mode is at Three Wizzrobe, Switch Chest (Face Shrine) in La DxRomulus's World. (not found)

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these three are go mode for me

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and one of these would be really nice
[Hint]: dr rOWmulus's Boost Duration Upgrade is at 9-1 Monkey Madness Monkey 5 - Crib in FlitterAE's World. (not found)
[Hint]: dr rOWmulus's Boost Duration Upgrade is at Mirage Tower (1F) - Chest 8 in LlisandurFF1's World. (not found)

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there's another one here, but i'm still waiting on boots (i think, i haven't checked ladx yet) [Hint]: dr rOWmulus's Boost Duration Upgrade is at Boots 'n' Bomb Cave Bombable Wall (Ukuku Prairie) in La DxRomulus's World. (not found)

cold valve
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[Hint]: La DxRomulus's Nightmare Key (Face Shrine) is at Song from Ocarina of Time in FlitterOoT's World. (not found)

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[Hint]: La DxRomulus's Ballad of the Wind Fish is at 7-3 Crumbling Castle Monkey 13 - Astur in FlitterAE's World. (not found)

cold valve
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La DxRomulus sent Effigy to LlisandurFox (Nightmare Key/Big Zamboni Chest (Turtle Rock))

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La DxRomulus sent Major Key - Sansa Keep to YayRemovePants (Seashell Mansion (Ukuku Prairie))

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ok i've now gone to the highest completion% that's not ff4 in both my games

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now blocked super hard by boots, but only a few more things besides those

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@tender pelican these are direly needed [Hint]: La DxRomulus's Pegasus Boots is at Sealed Temple - Page Pickup in LlisandurFox's World. (not found)

midnight depot
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I knew less than half of these

midnight depot
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Hi

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Today I will play Ape Escape because it has the least progression of all

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With all gadgets I don't need the tracker anymore!

midnight depot
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I found where all your GSTs are stored

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FlitterAE sent Sunsetter to YayRemovePants (4-3 Dexters Island Monkey 11 - Quirck)

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A bomb bag for Meganought

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Quite enjoying my time in the 1 rupee mines

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FlitterAE sent Small Key Ring (Forest Temple) to FlitterOoT (5-3 Hot Springs Monkey 7 - Crank)

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FlitterAE sent Magic Meter to MeganOOT (7-1 Sushi Temple Monkey 2 - Rocka)

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FlitterAE sent Dog Food to La DxRomulus (7-1 Sushi Temple Monkey 12 - Chunky)

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FlitterAE sent Bottle with Blue Fire to MeganOOT (7-1 Sushi Temple Monkey 10 - Voti)

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FlitterAE sent Yoshi Doll to La DxRomulus (7-2 Wabi Sabi Wall Monkey 1 - Minky)

midnight depot
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I'll stop here. Reminder that I need this FlitterAE's Progressive Water Net is at Sea Shrine Sharknado Floor (B4) - Greed Room 3 in LlisandurFF1's World. (not found) to finish the game.

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Next time, I will grab my world keys from OoT, then fetch Dr. Romulus's Ballad of the Wind Fish

lament tusk
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I don't think you sent me any progression items

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I'm gonna log on and start using hints

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In a bit

lament tusk
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small key tail cave rom

lament tusk
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deep space radio frequency rom

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and i found my firetemple boss key, ill do that fight then do hints. i had some checks i thought i hadnt got and was clearing them up before doing it. can always hope one of those is silver gauntlets after all

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50 rupeeslol

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i need these rom and flitter

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theres one for me but i cant get it rn

midnight depot
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Volcano piece of heart

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I can get that next time I play.

lament tusk
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i was suprised you didnt already have it, ngl

midnight depot
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Mirror shield will have to be the session after

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I have overworld, interior and dungeon entrance rando

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Getting anywhere is a chore

lament tusk
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ah fair

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thats why i dont do that

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it doesnt sound fun

midnight depot
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It wasn't supposed to give me that!

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I rolled a one in two hundred chance to get all of them at once

lament tusk
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lol

tender pelican
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[Hint]: LlisandurFF1's Floater is at Water Temple GS Falling Platform Room in MeganOOT's World. (not found)
[Hint]: LlisandurFF1's Oxyale is at Forest Temple Frozen Eye Switch Room Pot 2 in FlitterOoT's World at Ganons Castle Grounds -> Ganons Castle Lobby. (not found)
I need these to get Flitter's water net.

lament tusk
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i need irn boots for that

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which needs rom

tender pelican
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What does he need to get them?

lament tusk
tender pelican
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Ok, I'll play later today and see if what checks I have unlocks anything.

cold valve
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I'll get them shortly

lament tusk
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no rush, i got D&D in 40 mins

cold valve
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let's stream outer wilds

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dr rOWmulus sent Progressive Strength Upgrade to MeganOOT (Scan Deep Space Satellite Signal)

lament tusk
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thanks

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i needed that, how did you know?

cold valve
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dr rOWmulus sent Bottle with Fairy to MeganOOT (DB: Feldspar's Camp Fuel Tank)

lament tusk
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3rd bottle

cold valve
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dr rOWmulus sent Iron Boots to MeganOOT (DB: Scan Escape Pod 3 Signal)

lament tusk
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why would i need boots made of iron? eww

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(thank)

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i'd start oot up now but im playing rimworld and that game takes me a good 40 mins to start up

cold valve
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dr rOWmulus sent Small Key (Fire Temple) to MeganOOT (DB: Nomai Grave (Text Wheel))

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dr rOWmulus sent Boss Key (Fire Temple) to FlitterOoT (DB: Find The Vessel)

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whew! did all of dark bramble in a single loop, including scanning the sattelite

lament tusk
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nice

cold valve
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only 7 checks left in OW for me, 1 requires the shine door codes, 1 is the annoying comet that i'm putting off, and the other 5 i want boost duration upgrade for

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which the iron boots chain should open for me

wet field
cold valve
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i wish they sold irn bru here

wet field
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same, I've never had it

cold valve
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i've had it a few times, usually in a special UK section of fancy stores

lament tusk
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it tastes fine
cant really describe the flavour
i prefer cola anyway

cold valve
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it's basically orange soda

cold valve
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it's not exactly that, but that's kinda what you can expect

fresh hill
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I found it significantly weirder than orange soda, but I also can't describe it properly

cold valve
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it's like a more metallic carbonated version of sunny D

wet field
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that's not just the power of suggestion bc of the name? damn

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never had metallic soda before

cold valve
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BK'd in ladx now

lament tusk
sage dawn
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Item missing?

fresh hill
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that's Surrounded By Holes, right? are you on map patch or fullgold patch?

sage dawn
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Uh, latest patch I think

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Also yes

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It is Surrounded By Holes

fresh hill
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ok, I've heard in the PR thread that trying to use the AP mod on latest patch is known to break exactly the SBH location and nothing else, so some people exclude it

sage dawn
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Ooh, good to know

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Hope it's not important

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Worst case I can downpatch just for that check

fresh hill
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You can still use current patch, just make sure Surrounded By Holes is excluded, otherwise it'll be out of bounds and unobtainable

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ah, oob, that makes sense

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someone did mention that switching patches for just this check is an option lol

sage dawn
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In the future I will exclude it yeah

midnight depot
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I'll check if it's important

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It's fine

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I'll send it manually if I remember. It won't slow anyone down

midnight depot
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Hi. Let's play OoT

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But first

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YayRemovePants sent Fire Arrows to LlisandurFF4 (The Underbelly - Surrounded By Holes)

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Thanks for Nocturne of Shadows, Magic, Magic again, fire temple small key ring, fire arrows, third bomb bag, forest temple key ring, fire temple boss key, and two hylian shields

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Nocturne of Shadows takes me to Lake Hylia

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Which is perfect because that's where my Temple of Time is

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Let's start by fetching all hints

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FlitterOoT sent World Key to FlitterAE (Kak Potion Shop Item 8)
FlitterOoT sent World Key to FlitterAE (Kak Potion Shop Item 5)

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FlitterOoT sent Lens of Truth to MeganOOT (DMC Volcano Freestanding PoH)
FlitterOoT sent Gold Questagon to LlisandurFox (Sheik in Crater)

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Bottle Grotto) to La DxRomulus (Ice Cavern Near End Pot 2)

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FlitterOoT sent Legend Sword to LlisandurFF4 (Sheik in Ice Cavern) This shouldn't be progression

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Ice cavern done

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What should I get next?

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FlitterOoT's Weird Egg is at Forest Temple Phantom Ganon Heart in FlitterOoT's World at ZF Ice Ledge -> Ice Cavern Beginning. (not found)

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FlitterOoT sent Sword Upgrade to LlisandurFox (Fire Temple Flare Dancer Chest)

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That was quick

midnight depot
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Hmm

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What if instead of playing the game I finished it today

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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Second!

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I expected to finish last by far

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I will release all my checks because it would take way too long to get the rest

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FlitterOoT sent BowWow to La DxRomulus
FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Turtle Rock) to La DxRomulus (LW Ocarina Memory Game)
FlitterOoT sent Major Key - Twilight Theatre to YayRemovePants (Spirit Temple Compass Chest)
FlitterOoT sent Warp Core Installation Manual to dr rOWmulus (Sheik at Temple)
FlitterOoT sent Bottle with Milk to MeganOOT (Sheik in Kakariko)
FlitterOoT sent Progressive Scale to MeganOOT (Spirit Temple Big Mirror Flying Pot 1)
FlitterOoT sent Nightmare Key (Face Shrine) to La DxRomulus (Song from Ocarina of Time)
FlitterOoT sent World Key to FlitterAE (Song from Impa)
FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Catfish's Maw) to La DxRomulus (Water Temple Morpha Heart)
FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Color Dungeon) to La DxRomulus (Forest Temple Floormaster Chest)
FlitterOoT sent Gold Questagon to LlisandurFox (LLR Talons House Pot 3)
FlitterOoT sent Progressive Slide to YayRemovePants (Dodongos Cavern King Dodongo Heart)
FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Water Temple) to MeganOOT (Dodongos Cavern GS Back Room)
FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Gerudo Training Ground) to MeganOOT (Colossus Deku Scrub Grotto Rear)
FlitterOoT sent Oxyale to LlisandurFF1 (Forest Temple Frozen Eye Switch Room Pot 2)
FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Bottle Grotto) to La DxRomulus (Forest Temple Upper Stalfos Pot 4)
FlitterOoT sent Broom to La DxRomulus (Forest Temple Center Room Right Pot 3)
FlitterOoT sent Sword Upgrade to LlisandurFox (GC Maze Right Chest)
FlitterOoT sent Ladder to Ruined Atoll to LlisandurFox (GC Darunias Joy)
FlitterOoT sent Bow to MeganOOT (DMT GS Falling Rocks Path)
FlitterOoT sent Air Kick to YayRemovePants (Market Potion Shop Item 6)
FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Ganons Castle) to MeganOOT (Market Potion Shop Item 8)
FlitterOoT sent Small Key to YayRemovePants (Spirit Temple Big Mirror Flying Pot 5)
FlitterOoT sent Magic Orb to LlisandurFox (Dodongos Cavern Last Block Pot 2)```
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Plenty of progression checks for @lament tusk, @cold valve, @sage dawn, @tender pelican (who also got shards and coins and fairies which I did not include)

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My finals start Wednesday, so I will play Ape Escape whenever I have the time

tender pelican
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Yay, a few of those things opens a lot of checks in Tunic.

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Also, legend sword in FF4 is progression because it with adamant is a check and/or it gives the final required item depending on settings.

midnight depot
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Makes sense

tender pelican
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Now that I have the orb I glitched through the door and got pegasus boots for Rom.

cold valve
lament tusk
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just waiting for flitter to play ape escape i think

tender pelican
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I still need floater for FF1 if you're able to get there.

lament tusk
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where was that again?

tender pelican
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On my phone so I can't look it up. I think it was water temple.

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It was hinted.

lament tusk
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damn, if thats the case, i just spent all my keys on the wrong places

cold valve
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Yeah i learned that lesson the hard way

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I always use my keys on the shortest path to the boss unless there's hints for side-branches

lament tusk
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does time pass in zoras fountain? the bit with jabu jabu in it?

weary lagoon
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no

lament tusk
sage dawn
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Gotta go out to the waterfall yeah

lament tusk
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yeah just need flitter to play ape excape

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shit right i need shadow temple keys too, damn

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im outta hints

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eh whatever. probably all in AE

tender pelican
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[Hint]: LlisandurFF1's Floater is at Water Temple GS Falling Platform Room in MeganOOT's World. (not found)

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Yeah, it was water temple.

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Next time I may use the extra docks options so I don't have to wait.

lament tusk
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yeah that was 100% my fault, that one's in logic
i dint have the tunic, i just explored the temple a bit for fun

tender pelican
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No problem. I just need that and 3 questagons to complete my games. Probably. Not sure how many shards I have right now. XD

cold valve
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let's play ladx

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La DxRomulus sent Fire Arrows to MeganOOT (Dream Hut West (Mabe Village))

lament tusk
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Thanks

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I'm actually not sure I need them, but thanks

cold valve
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La DxRomulus sent Slab to LlisandurFF1 (Blob Chest (Angler's Tunnel))

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literally one check left in ladx, and i just need the ballad of the wind fish to finish the game

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[Hint]: La DxRomulus's Boomerang is at 8-3 TV Tower Monkey 9 - Roosta in FlitterAE's World. (not found) this will make the final boss slightly easier but it's not needed

midnight depot
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If you have trials on, fire arrows are mandatory for shadow trial. Otherwise you could do most of the game with din's fire and clever tricks

weary lagoon
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shadow trial has a check that needs them either way

midnight depot
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Really? I think you can get it with just longshot, megaton hammer, Din's fire and hover boots

sage dawn
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Finished.

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I've got like four checks left, but I'll do them later.

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I know I've already gotten everything you all have hinted

tender pelican
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I need one shard to beat FF1 and one questagon to beat Tunic.

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[Hint]: LlisandurFF1's Shard is at Sea Shrine Sharknado Floor (B4) - Side Corner 3 in LlisandurFF1's World. (not found)
And of course the only one not found is in my own world, and I need the floater to get to it. I almost thought I was going to have a no air ship run.

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[Hint]: LlisandurFox's Gold Questagon is at Ruptured Core (Text Wheel) in dr rOWmulus's World. (not found)
[Hint]: LlisandurFox's Gold Questagon is at 8-3 TV Tower Monkey 12 - Frostee in FlitterAE's World. (not found)
Either of these.

midnight depot
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I'll play some tomorrow

midnight depot
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Hi

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It's tomorrow

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FlitterAE sent Golden Coin to LlisandurFox (5-1 Snowy Mammoth Mailbox - Severely Cold Sea (Main))

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FlitterAE sent Boss Key (Forest Temple) to MeganOOT (5-1 Snowy Mammoth Mailbox - This Hazardous Thing (Main))

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Crumbling castle time

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All the levels from here on out are big

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FlitterAE sent Ballad of the Wind Fish to La DxRomulus (7-3 Crumbling Castle Monkey 13 - Astur)

weary lagoon
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Name a more important sounding item

midnight depot
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FlitterAE sent Gold Questagon to LlisandurFox (7-3 Crumbling Castle Monkey 5 - Willhelm)

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FlitterAE sent Ladders to West Bell to LlisandurFox (7-3 Crumbling Castle Monkey 18 - Fej)

lament tusk
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thanks

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i should play again, got distracted with heldivers and zomboid build 42 unstable

cold valve
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i can finish ladx now but i will wait until my secret santa is done

midnight depot
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Next up is City Park, which I will skip until I have this [Hint]: FlitterAE's Progressive Water Net is at Sea Shrine Sharknado Floor (B4) - Greed Room 3 in LlisandurFF1's World. (not found)

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So let's just go for my hinted items and stop

lament tusk
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im bk mode again

midnight depot
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I will get your mirror shield if I can

lament tusk
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all i could do was forest temple, which gave me last kid gem, which gave sun song but everything else was junk

midnight depot
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Oh apparently cheats are enabled

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Well, don't cheat unless you have to

lament tusk
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/godmode

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wait wrong chat

midnight depot
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No, player cheats are !

lament tusk
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it was a joke

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also i forgor

midnight depot
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FlitterAE sent Small Key (Bottom of the Well) to MeganOOT (8-1 City Park Coin - Sewers Front)

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FlitterAE sent Mirror Shield to MeganOOT (8-1 City Park Monkey 10 - Winky)

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Next up La DxRomulus's Boomerang is at 8-3 TV Tower Monkey 9 - Roosta in FlitterAE's World. (not found)

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FlitterAE sent Letter to La DxRomulus (8-3 TV Tower Monkey 1 - Fredo)

lament tusk
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oh i needed those

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ill log bak onto oot in a bit then

midnight depot
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Take your time, I intend to also get your water temple keys (two of them)

lament tusk
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thank

midnight depot
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FlitterAE sent Small Key (Water Temple) to MeganOOT (8-3 TV Tower Monkey 8 - Danio)

cold valve
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[Hint]: dr rOWmulus's Shrine Door Codes is at Sky Fortress Spider (2F) - Incentive in LlisandurFF1's World. (not found)

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This would be the very last thing i need

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It's possible it's been sent, but i haven't checked today

tender pelican
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Need floater to get that.

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Tunic completed.

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Got the laurels at 37 seconds, the sword at 4 hours 58 minutes. XD

midnight depot
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Well done

tender pelican
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Just waiting on the floater for FF1 now.

midnight depot
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FlitterAE sent Boomerang to La DxRomulus (8-3 TV Tower Monkey 9 - Roosta)

cold valve
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Thanks!

midnight depot
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Where's the floater again?

cold valve
midnight depot
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Yeah the game is done

cold valve
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Yay, no comet for me!

lament tusk
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ill get it now

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you got me a water temple key for it

midnight depot
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Excellent

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Next up I have MeganOOT's Small Key (Water Temple) is at 9-1 Monkey Madness Monkey 17 - Teacup in FlitterAE's World. (not found)
dr rOWmulus's Boost Duration Upgrade is at 9-1 Monkey Madness Monkey 5 - Crib in FlitterAE's World. (not found)

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Monkey 17 is in the castle portion so it might be a while

cold valve
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The boost duration is not critical anymore if that check is a huge pain

midnight depot
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I cannot get 17 without 5

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This archipelago desperately needs to break down the big levels into smaller warps

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Pog pog you found 30 arrows

cold valve
midnight depot
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FlitterAE sent Boost Duration Upgrade to dr rOWmulus (9-1 Monkey Madness Monkey 5 - Crib)

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MeganOOT sent Floater to LlisandurFF1 (Water Temple GS Falling Platform Room)

lament tusk
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got your floater

midnight depot
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Does the next water temple small key help you?

lament tusk
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theres more checks but that one was hinted

midnight depot
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Got it

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(Normally you can finish water temple using all keys but one or two)

lament tusk
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yeah i fucked up

midnight depot
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FlitterAE sent Rooster to La DxRomulus (9-1 Monkey Madness Monkey 6 - Nak)

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FlitterAE sent Small Key (Water Temple) to MeganOOT (9-1 Monkey Madness Monkey 24 - BG)

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Wait, that's the wrong one

lament tusk
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wdym?

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ill do that later, im mid twinrova fight rn

midnight depot
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17 is the one I was going for

lament tusk
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honetly allt he bosses is incredibly annoying today, phantom gannon sucked now fukken twinrova in general sucks

midnight depot
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Twinrova is much easier if you can figure out the biggoron sword one cycle timings

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Jumpslash to get on the platform, then crouch stabs for the win

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This is in part because after they fuse, the first three elemental attacks are guaranteed to be the same

lament tusk
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following this advice is making the fight way harder than it needed to be
jump slashing over didint work multiple times so now i've done exactly zero damage

midnight depot
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Sorry

lament tusk
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also its not the second half that sucks, its the first. te second is just time consuming

tender pelican
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Yay floater. I'll go get stuff after lunch.

midnight depot
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FlitterAE sent Small Key (Shadow Temple) to MeganOOT (9-1 Monkey Madness Monkey 23 - Carlito)

lament tusk
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ffs

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you got that key just as i wa about to hit twinrova

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so i missed the cycle

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i need that

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but still

sage dawn
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The trick to the first cycle is to stop the other one in a good spot by spamming hoockshot at her to make her spin.

lament tusk
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shes dead

midnight depot
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That is way too hard for me

sage dawn
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Aiming the beam is still awkward though

lament tusk
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yay! 5 arrows!

midnight depot
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I did not recommend it because I didn't think you could ever get it right

lament tusk
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oh.

sage dawn
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Also by jump slash across Flitter meant jump slash near the end of the jump across

midnight depot
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Yeah

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It's tricky timing for sure, so it only makes the fight faster after you learn it

sage dawn
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And the timing for the crouch stabs is easier if you watch her clammaries in the damage animation.

midnight depot
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You can't say tits here

sage dawn
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Oh shit my bad

lament tusk
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watch her boobies. got it.

midnight depot
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lmao

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They really didn't need to give them that much bounce

sage dawn
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They really did not lol

lament tusk
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and yet

midnight depot
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This platform is blue because it's fucking made of ice

sage dawn
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Oh that's miserable

midnight depot
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It's not

lament tusk
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oooof wow

midnight depot
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I just keep trying to jump to the jacket and then to the red platform

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But I fail every time

sage dawn
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Oh damn didn't realize you could jump that far in Ape Escape

midnight depot
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I have the sky flyer

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(There's also momentum cancel cancel)

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There we go

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FlitterAE sent Small Key (Water Temple) to MeganOOT (9-1 Monkey Madness Monkey 17 - Teacup)

lament tusk
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guess i can 100% water temple i think

midnight depot
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I will stop here. Please find me FlitterAE's Progressive Water Net is at Sea Shrine Sharknado Floor (B4) - Greed Room 3 in LlisandurFF1's World. (not found)

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Then I can finish the game

lament tusk
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i need this for go ode

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i need to get past this door before i can beat bongo bongo and beat the game

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given thats the last thing i need to do before beating gannon, im saving and quitting here for now. ill just release when i beat gannon

midnight depot
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Hell yeah

tender pelican
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LlisandurFF1 sent Progressive Water Net to FlitterAE (Sea Shrine Sharknado Floor (B4) - Greed Room 3)

midnight depot
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Thanks

tender pelican
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LlisandurFF1 (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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Done.

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Ran down to that one floor, grabbed my last shard and the water net, then ran out and went to the last boss. Completely ignored the last two dungeons basically.

midnight depot
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We have four games left to go!

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I can finish mine Dec 23

tender pelican
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LlisandurFF1 sent Rutos Letter to FlitterOoT (Sea Shrine Mermaids (B1) - Four-Corner First)
LlisandurFF1 sent Shrine Door Codes to dr rOWmulus (Sky Fortress Spider (2F) - Incentive)

midnight depot
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OoT is done

cold valve
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La DxRomulus (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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nothing to release

cold valve
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dr rOWmulus (Team #1) has completed their goal.

tender pelican
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Woo!

cold valve
midnight depot
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Hi

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It's the home stretch. We have meganought and ape escape to finish, so let's wrap up AE

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I finally have dive!

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FlitterAE found their Energy Chip (1-2 Primordial Ooze Coin - Main) Should have had this check like twenty days ago if not for that pesky dive

midnight depot
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For some reason my progress in a few levels reset. I guess I didn't save after doing them

lament tusk
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yeah that sucks when you forget to do that

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i've done it several times

midnight depot
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If it isn't Meganought, I got you your favorite thing

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FlitterAE sent Gold Skulltula Token to MeganOOT (9-1 Monkey Madness Coin - Castle Main)

lament tusk
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im at 98 skull tokens

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but somoene got me a shadow temple key and didnt tell me! im in go mode now

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bongo bonged

midnight depot
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That was quick

lament tusk
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i saved right in front of the locked door

midnight depot
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Oh a save state

lament tusk
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idve been faster if i wasnt also cooking food

midnight depot
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I don't use those when I close the emulator in case it fucks stuff up

lament tusk
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i save in game and savestate

midnight depot
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Yeah, I use savestates mid-run and a normal save when I close the game, then load the normal save because loading savestates is not what Archipelago expects

lament tusk
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well sometimes i do

midnight depot
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=pY6TGHQVUtM This trick might help you skip keys next time!

If you know who invented this setup please let me know ! I wasn't able to find it on youtube so I made this short tutorial as a documentation. Many other setups exists, this one is my perosnnal favourite. The video explains the steps of the setup that lets you clip in the shadow temple gate. It is a great shortcut for many things !

Follow me on...

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lament tusk
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i dont really like skipping keys

midnight depot
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Why not?

lament tusk
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hot really how i enjoy playing the game

midnight depot
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Well I figure it beats sitting in front of the locked door until someone finds your stuff

lament tusk
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thats how randomisers go sometimes tho

midnight depot
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Doesn't have to be

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Big song find

lament tusk
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nice thew seranaide of water

midnight depot
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MeganOOT found their Serenade of Water (Sheik in Kakariko) Just in time

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Time for the big fight

lament tusk
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ganon dorf dead, time for ganon

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game over

tender pelican
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Woo!

lament tusk
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werdly. the only "progression" item left was my 100th gold skull token

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its almost as if i was the second to last game to finish or something

tender pelican
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Lol.

midnight depot
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FlitterAE found their Victory (9-2 Peak Point Matrix - Specter)

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Good game

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Let's write that recap!

tender pelican
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Yay!

midnight depot
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Thank you for joining me in the Manechat Archipelago game for December 2024! This game had 20 spheres and 2767 locations. The playthrough file lists receivers from last to first: @tender pelican FF1, @cold valve LADX and Outer Wilds, @midnight depot OoT, @lament tusk, Llisandur FF4 and Tunic, @sage dawn, Flitter Ape Escape.
Included is the spoiler log, game log, games used and output files. The game link was at https://archipelago.gg/room/HRknCzegQ4CaC5KRmX87FQ

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Hello, @here! I'm starting another Manechat Asynchronous Archipelago Game, with the intent of running until the end of January 2025. If you're interested, please read the list of available games https://archipelago.gg/games and pick one or more games to run (or browse https://multiworld.news/apworlds.html for unsupported games!), then ping me so I can keep track of you and help you out with any problems. Let's try to make sure that you like the game you picked and can complete it by the end of the month!
The game will start January 2nd or whenever everyone interested is ready.

In order to join, I will need the YAML files for whatever games you want to play. Talk to me if you have any questions or concerns.
Also, @bright hatch and @ancient harness you've indicated interest in participating. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help you get your preferred game running (if you're still interested.)

weary lagoon
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Theee giiiiftleer

midnight depot
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For January I'll run OoT, Golden Sun 2, and Ape Escape.

ancient harness
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Hollow Knight

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Let's see how rusty I am

cold valve
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I'll do ladx and outer wilds again, but I'll need to set up a more involved yaml for ow

midnight depot
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Hell yeah

lament tusk
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think ill bug out of next month's session
for now at least

bright hatch
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I’ll do hat in time, I know it pretty well (aside from nyakuza, but that should be solvable enough)

I’ll probably need help but will reach out when setting up. Rn I’m settling in for a nap, still tired from last night

midnight depot
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You'll know you've set it up correctly when you generate a game, host it on the website, connect to it, and send/receive an item

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I can help you with all parts except the last one

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Oh, @weary lagoon and @wet field also indicated they'd join in January. Exciting!

fierce vale
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i am once again busy during january </3

tender pelican
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I will probably once again do FF1, FF4, and Tunic. Looking into other games as well, but I'm still working on playing through some of them normally. Still waiting on Metroid Dread as an option, but I understand why it isn't.

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FF4 should have most bugs fixed this time.

weary lagoon
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have they added any cool settings to oot in the last 6 months

midnight depot
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lmao

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OoT is abandoned

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The guy who was maintaining it left

weary lagoon
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How is OoT abandoned bro its OoT..

midnight depot
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It still works fine so I'll play it for the foreseeable future

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Other than that, it is stuck on OoTr 7.1 until someone else maintains it

tender pelican
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Presumably it would get to a point where there's nothing left to do with it and it just works, but I don't know how all the stuff in the background works.

weary lagoon
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oot abandoned ootmm abandoned AP is dying

midnight depot
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OoTMM is not even part of AP

weary lagoon
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im talking about the ootmm AP

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real ootmm is THRIVING

tender pelican
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Maybe I'll add Earthbound and see how that is on randomizer.

midnight depot
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Oh the multiworld we're playing

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I'm still playing that on a regular schedule

weary lagoon
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Bro im talking about the guy who was going to add it to AP

midnight depot
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Oh

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Fletch is waiting for the MM recomp to add mod support

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Not sure why that is relevant

weary lagoon
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but ootmm doesnt use the recomp

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whaa

sage dawn
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Wouldn't be a problem if GROOSE was the one doing it smh

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I'll probably join again but going to be busy for the end of December.

weary lagoon
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I might play bloons td6

midnight depot
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You sure?

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Sounds like a really bad game to randomize

weary lagoon
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im not sure but im thinking about looking into it

midnight depot
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So it looks like the mod tries to disable multiplayer so they don't flag your account. At least that's nice

weary lagoon
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Looks like Sunshine is playable. Thats one of my favorite games.

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though I cant use my gamecube controller anymore. Wonder if the pressure sensitive back buttons can be bound to different buttons somehow in dolphin

midnight depot
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Maybe if you launch it through steam

midnight depot
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Hi

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One week until the January game. Please send me any YAMLs you have ready

tender pelican
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Is there a reason to set settings to 50 instead of 1, when the other settings are 0?

fresh hill
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nope

tender pelican
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Doing FF1, FF4, and Tunic.
FF4FE apworld is updated to the latest version which should fix the previous bugs. Tunic apworld should be same as last time, but included for completeness.

midnight depot
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The ratio is what matters.

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Thanks!

wet field
ancient harness
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I enabled Death Link, if anyone feels adventurous/masochistic

midnight depot
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Hell yeah

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I'll turn on deathlink in Ape Escape and OoT then

tender pelican
#

Hm, maybe I should turn that on for Tunic. Might be interesting. I don't typically die in that game.

midnight depot
#

It'll only matter if you think you can play at the same time

#

Most games do not handle deathlink for async. Some send one death and stop

tender pelican
#

That's true. What timezone do you play in? I notice you usually get on really early for me.

midnight depot
#

Proficient combat: off but Goal: Radiance

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I am in UTC+3

tender pelican
#

Oh, 9 hour difference. XD
I'm UTC-6 or -5 depending on the time of year. (Daylight saving's time is stupid.)

ancient harness
#

Isn't proficient combat a flag for skips

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I don't know what skips are included where so I just don't add any skips to the logic

midnight depot
#

Yeah it's fine

#

The in-game tracker should be accurate about what you can and cannot reach

cold valve
#

I could do deathlink for ladx

#

I won't chance it for outer wilds though

weary lagoon
#

ill turn on death link in mario

#

in hollow knight it sounds toxic if you've already died once and havent gotten your money back yet

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or you're at the end of the arena or something..

ancient harness
#

It is what it is

weary lagoon
#

guess ill update since im on 4.6

#

@midnight depotshould I get 0.5.1 or 0.5.1.Hotfix1

midnight depot
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Hotfix1

weary lagoon
#

ill ask you to make a test game for sunshine later to make sure it works

midnight depot
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Absolutely. Please send me the specific APworld you want to use

bright hatch
weary lagoon
#

its a value chance for that setting to be enabled

midnight depot
#

Well done

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The 50 and 0 settings are weights!

weary lagoon
#

example

Gold skulltulas shuffled
Yes: 70
No: 30

#

now you got a 70% chance to have skulls shuffled and 30% to not

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so if you have
Yes:50
no: 0

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yes always happens

bright hatch
#

so is there a 50% chance that I can start the game and a 50% chance that I...can't? XD

weary lagoon
#

in this case chapter 1 always happens

midnight depot
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No, they're weights, not percentages

bright hatch
#

ohh ok

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so if one is 50 and another is 200, 200 is 4x as likely to happen

midnight depot
#

Exactly!

bright hatch
#

man this is a LOT of settings xD

weary lagoon
#

which game is this

bright hatch
#

hat in time

weary lagoon
#

ah

midnight depot
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If you want, you can use someone else's settings as a base

weary lagoon
#

its because of all the hats

bright hatch
#

where would I find those (and maybe a succinct summary of what's different)

midnight depot
weary lagoon
#

@fierce vale this guy needs your hat in time expertise

midnight depot
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Chip is from November 2024, Ixrec is from October 2024

fierce vale
#

raywilliamjohnson me mentioned

midnight depot
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After we finish each game, I release the YAMLs used. You can just ask for them

fierce vale
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if you use my most modern one, the only note that it has some skips enabled, and i was going to disable one of the portrait settings

midnight depot
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I recommend Ixrec's, since they are accessible

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You can also generate a YAML through the website

bright hatch
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they included a template, there's just a loooot of explanation text

fierce vale
#

thats the price of customability

midnight depot
#

This page is more accessible

bright hatch
#

ooh hey that looks neater

midnight depot
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If you're confused about specific settings you can ask here for opinions

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Keep in mind the page on the website won't let you do weighted settings

weary lagoon
#

guess ill do my hollow knight yaml while waiting for sunshine

bright hatch
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yeah I noticed

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best for simplicity to not mess with that I feel

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ok I generated it, I think

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the yaml at least

midnight depot
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With the YAML handy, you can generate a game then host it in the site.

weary lagoon
midnight depot
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Since AHiT is officially supported you can generate a game through the site itself

bright hatch
#

I got some stuff, what's it do

midnight depot
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A zip file?

bright hatch
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just seed info

midnight depot
#

Make a room and connect to it

bright hatch
#

the generator doesn't give me a zip

midnight depot
#

What does it give you?

bright hatch
#

there's a "spoiler: download" thing

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but clicking it just brings up text in-browser

midnight depot
#

Hold on

#

Click this instead

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This will auto-host

bright hatch
#

ohhh ok

#

alright then what

midnight depot
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Next, start the game up, and connect to archipelago.gg:11111 where 1111 is the port number on the room

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Once you're connected using the address and game name, try to send a check in the game

bright hatch
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ye, that was painless, they gave the command for that

#

send a check, ok. so like

#

how do I know my game...worked

midnight depot
#

The log here will tell you

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If you installed the archipelago software, the text client will also tell you

tender pelican
#

You're doing a lot more testing than I did when I started. XD

bright hatch
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"why is the launch taking forever - oh redistributables, lol"

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nothing about the game seems different, even still has the old saves

tender pelican
#

Of course, I'm playing on Linux which adds an extra layer of complication too. :P

midnight depot
#

Make sure you're following this guide closely

tender pelican
#

You could load the old save and watch it dump a bunch of checks as completed.

bright hatch
#

oh dev console was off

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that'd do it

#

ok now it keeps trying to connect and says it timed out, asking if it's running (it is)

midnight depot
#

Are you on the correct port?

bright hatch
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in the client yes

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idk how to tell the game what port

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guide says it's automatic

midnight depot
#

If the client is connected it should be fine

#

Can you take a screenshot?

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Of the client and the room

bright hatch
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ohhh you need to enter who you are too

#

that explains it

#

still timing out in-game, though

midnight depot
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You may be on the text client, rather than the Hat in Time client

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The text client just displays information and doesn't connect to the actual game

bright hatch
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this is the client

midnight depot
#

you're not connected properly

bright hatch
#

oh, ok how do I do that

midnight depot
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Click disconnect, then add your name first. Hold on while I look the format up

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Like this

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(but don't do the text client, do the client you were using in the screenshot)

bright hatch
#

still timing out ingame, should I restart?

midnight depot
#

Not sure but it might help

#

Some people in the archipelago channel for the game say that you need to open everything in the correct order

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@fresh hill might know the correct order

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The channel is at #1257453386073374842

bright hatch
#

unknown indeed

midnight depot
#

Oh!

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The documentation on the website might be outdated

bright hatch
#

I did all of that

#

it looked just like that

midnight depot
#

Then I don't know

bright hatch
#

fun way to spend a half hour I suppose

cold valve
#

Perhaps you have to start a game first? In ladx, it doesn't connect until i choose the save file and get into the game

bright hatch
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Nah, it didn't even try to connect until I entered a file, it's not that

#

wait

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I got a standalone older client. that worked

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I opened it, IMMEDIATE connection

midnight depot
#

Oh good

bright hatch
#

ok, so it's connected, loading a completed file does not flood checks though

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so ima have to do it for reals

cold valve
#

Sorry ms jackson

bright hatch
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act 1: queen vanessa's manor

...I think it worked lmao

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...aaaand apparently I didn't disable skips, now I have to learn how to fire skip

midnight depot
#

Check the client to see if any checks send properly

#

If any did, great!

bright hatch
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I can't do any checks because my literal first level doesn't seem to have any xD

midnight depot
#

Okay, instead, try !getitem yarn

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If THAT shows up, you're fine

bright hatch
#

it did show up ingame yes

midnight depot
#

Did it show up in the client?

bright hatch
#

does that count

midnight depot
#

Yep

#

That's all you need to do testing-wise. Next, give me the YAML file and I'll add it to the list for January. We start at January 2.

bright hatch
#

o oki

#

neat

midnight depot
#

Feel free to adjust the YAML how you like. Changing the settings won't break the game

bright hatch
#

not sure where it's stored heh

midnight depot
#

C:\ProgramData\Archipelago\Players

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Or uh

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your download folder

bright hatch
#

I do have it in my download folder but I'm...not sure if that's what the game was using. since this came off what I generated it should be yeah?

midnight depot
#

That's exactly what the game uses

bright hatch
#

ok cool

#

so if I change it on my pc does it change the game too?

tender pelican
#

Not after it's been generated.

midnight depot
#

You need to generate a new game with the new YAML

tender pelican
#

Remember to turn off the thing you said you forgot to turn off.

bright hatch
#

Ah, rip

#

yeah lol. skips

#

that said this would be it for now then. that has the skips off. gonna go test the game stuff myself tho

midnight depot
#

Have fun! Randomizers tend to be fun singleplayer too

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Currently I have the following YAMLs

#

Let's see if they all generate

bright hatch
#

eyyy ok

#

confirmed check works

midnight depot
#

Excellent

#

Let's try again. Maybe it was a fluke

#

Keeps failing to allocate Artiks's game

#

@weary lagoon Could not access required locations for accessibility check. Missing: [Corona Mountain - Platform Blue Coin (Artio Sunshine), Corona Mountain - Back Right Lava Blue Coin (Artio Sunshine), Corona Mountain - Left Lava Blue Coin (Artio Sunshine), Corona Mountain - Front Lava Blue Coin (Artio Sunshine), Corona Mountain - Front Left Lava Blue Coin (Artio Sunshine), Corona Mountain - Front Right Lava Blue Coin (Artio Sunshine), Corona Mountain - Back Left Lava Blue Coin (Artio Sunshine), Corona Mountain - Far Back Left Lava Blue Coin (Artio Sunshine), Corona Mountain - Far Back Right Lava Blue Coin (Artio Sunshine), Corona Mountain - Right Lava Blue Coin (Artio Sunshine), Corona Mountain - Father and Son Shine! (Artio Sunshine), Delfino Airstrip Revisit - Red Coin Waterworks (Artio Sunshine), Delfino Airstrip Revisit - Ice Cube Blue Coin (Artio Sunshine)]

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The Super Mario Sunshine thread said there's a 0.4 version you could try.

#

For now I'll delete Super Mario Sunshine and see if that fixes the problem or if something else causes it

#

Oh, it generates without SMS

midnight depot
#

We fixed the problem!

weary lagoon
#

you making a test game i can try?

midnight depot
#

Here you go

#

Everyone who sent me their YAML can connect to it and try sending checks

weary lagoon
#

i just have to get through the 15 minute cutscene

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i sent a check

midnight depot
#

Great

#

Looks like Super Mario Sunshine works

weary lagoon
#

i do have both hovers when im supposed to start with only spray but thats not the end of the world

midnight depot
#

Octy from Ponydev is joining with Starcraft 2

weary lagoon
#

both nozzles*

proven holly
midnight depot
#

Hi!

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It works

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Looks like you can't talk in #1032714873009872967 without the member role. We gotta fix this

#

I'm super excited to play with you.

proven holly
#

yeah, it'll be my first big one, normally I keep with my close friends

midnight depot
#

If you like, you're free to join with more than one game, including unsupported games from the archipelago server.

#

But for unsupported games I'll need the apworld file on top of the YAML

#

Who else is yet to give me a YAML?

#

Kratta will be ready on the 29th, Dr. Romulus is yet to be ready. Yay899 is busy for December

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That's everyone left

midnight depot
#

Wonderful

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I'll toss it on the pile

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Tomorrow I'm going to test Golden Sun: The Lost Age, and add it to the list.

weary lagoon
#

ive fixed controller setup for sunshine so I can do the pressure sensitive spray

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this game has the old skool reverse camera

lament tusk
#

I might toss a fame in on Sunday
If I forget before D&D then I won't join

midnight depot
#

I can remind you if you like

lament tusk
#

Sure

weary lagoon
#

@ancient harness got your geo rock

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and your lantern

midnight depot
#

Don't have too much fun in the test game

weary lagoon
#

alright

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my blue counter is kinda fucking up after collecting one

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well I havent received anything but im sure it works fine

midnight depot
#

I'll send you something

weary lagoon
#

i closed it

midnight depot
#

Well fuck

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[2024-12-27 21:04:11,928]: Notice (all): Cheat console: sending "Shine Sprite" to Artio Sunshine

ancient harness
#

Now I'm cursed to getting lantern late in the real run

midnight depot
#

You could plando lantern early

cold valve
midnight depot
#

Makes sense

cold valve
#

i'll get my yamls ready now

midnight depot
#

Thanks! I'll put them in tomorrow

cold valve
#

unfortunately it seems deathlink is not available for ladx

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unless i can just add it to the yaml, but it's not present as an option

midnight depot
#

It might not be implemented

proven holly
midnight depot
#

Makes sense. It's in the works

cold valve
#

cool, i'll add that when it's merged

midnight depot
#

Hi

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I've added Dr. Romulus's YAMLs. Now all we have left are my other games, Kratta, yay899, and possibly Meganought

weary lagoon
#

will be making a Splatoon 4 yaml soon as well

midnight depot
#

Oh

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Well good

lament tusk
#

right
home now
what games should i play? oot again? subnautica is always good, and very easy to set up

weary lagoon
#

WI-

lament tusk
#

is windwaker working?

weary lagoon
#

Yeah I ran it december last year and may this year

midnight depot
#

Wind Waker is fine

lament tusk
#

yeah i cant be bothered to learn that today i think
tired
long time with family over the last few days and the hotel beds kinda sucked

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ill set up oot and subnautica tomorrow

midnight depot
#

Why is this an option

#
  artifacts_are_filler:
    # Whether "Rare" Equipment should be considered filler instead of useful.  Rings, Shirts, and Boots are
    # not reclassified by this option.
    'false': 50
    'true': 0```
midnight depot
#

Let's try to run GSTLA

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Works!

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FlitterGSTLA sent Elegant_Key to Arti Knight (Idejima - Sheba) and it sends

#

That was easy!

#

What else do we need?

weary lagoon
#

thanks

midnight depot
#

Ape Escape from me, game from Meganought, game from Artiks, game from yay899, game from Kratta

wispy sigil
#

I was playing Raft last night and found out by random chance that Archipelago supports Raft. The mod for it is on the Raft modding website rdwut

midnight depot
#

True! Meganought played it a couple of time

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You're welcome to join

#

Our next game is for January, starting at Jan 2.

wispy sigil
#

I still have yet to ever go to any of the Chapter 3 islands, so that'd be interesting rdwut
Last time I'd had it installed before last night was before the final 1.0 chapter 3 update.

midnight depot
#

Probably ideal to finish the game once first

lament tusk
#

i enjoy the game, but i think i would nnt enjoy randomising it

proven holly
#

I tried to do The Witness rando before I finished it (well, I still haven't) and that didn't go very well lol

midnight depot
#

I played Ocarina of Time randomized before playing it vanilla and it was a better experience randomized

sage dawn
#

This is only because they repeat the goddesses loredump cutscene like three times in the initial child section of the game.

weary lagoon
#

I've decided to pass on Splatoon 5 for this month

midnight depot
#

Hi @lament tusk you asked for a reminder today

lament tusk
#

i did not but thanks anyway

midnight depot
#

You did

lament tusk
#

just finished a late brunch

#

so good timing

midnight depot
#

Thanks

lament tusk
#

oh i did

#

my apologies

#

i dont remmeber doing that

#

...clearly

weary lagoon
#

😹

lament tusk
midnight depot
#

Thanks! I'll add them to the list.

lament tusk
#

remembered to randomise songs properly this time
always forget to do that

midnight depot
#

Since you're shuffling all 100 gold skulltula tokens, do you mind if I made them local so they don't show up in other people's priority locations?

weary lagoon
#

i dont think it matters

#

super mario sunshine has 240 blue coins 🤣

lament tusk
#

oh are we getting blue coins? nice

weary lagoon
#

every priority location is gonna be a shine sprite or blue coin anyway

lament tusk
#

i dont mind either way i suppose, but its more fun for me to have 100 extra locations to find others items. otherwise what was the point

#

might as well not randomise them at all

midnight depot
#

Look at it this way

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If you don't make the gold skulltula tokens, other people will have 100 fewer locations to find progression items

lament tusk
#

well yeah
but thats gonna happen no matter what

midnight depot
#

No?

#

If you do make them local, other people will not have fewer progression item locations

#

That's the whole idea

lament tusk
#

i mean, no matter what happens, theres 100 checks that are gonna be skull tokens

midnight depot
#

Correct. The difference is they could be in your world or in other people's

lament tusk
#

so we should insist arti's 240 coins stay in his world too?

#

what about coins in general?

#

should all my rupees be in my world?

midnight depot
#

I agree

lament tusk
#

then why are we playing a multiplayer rando?

midnight depot
#

For my OoT game I make all my junk local

#

We're playing it for the progression items, not the junk

#

Unfortunately, gold skulltula tokens are junk but marked progression

weary lagoon
#

Im never using local items

#

i know some people like to play with priority locations on boss fights but unfortunately this thing is programmed the way that theres too many lame "progression items" that it doesnt really work

#

so if you really want that you have to plando stuff

midnight depot
#

Yeah that's fair

lament tusk
#

i have no objection to the way you want to play flitter, its just not the way i want to play
i dont mind if you add junk items to everyone else, thats fine, thats the kinda point in my book

#

i wouldnt mind a more planned rando some other time, but thats not what i signed up for this month

weary lagoon
#

ive said it before but they should add a new item class called "Actually important" that belongs only to the hookshots of this world so priority locations can go to those

lament tusk
#

that i agree with

midnight depot
#

All right. Let's get Ape Escape updated

#

For this month I will shuffle levels again even though it wasn't that interesting last time

#

This time, I will make it so instead of requiring every single monkey to finish the game, there's a chance that I will only need to beat Monkey Madness.

weary lagoon
#

either way, you can trust that I will save every single monkey

midnight depot
#

Lmao no

#

I will end the game the moment I can

#

In order to not make it too easy, I will make the following items nonlocal

#

World Key, Stun Club, Time Net, Monkey Radar, Slingback Shooter, Super Hoop, Magic Punch, Sky Flyer, R.C.

#

Maybe swim too?

#

However, since people apparently enjoy finding junk, I will not be making my junk local

#

Oh and I'll enable deathlink in OoT

#

And while I'm there, I'll enable a random amount of dungeon shortcuts

weary lagoon
#

is that like, dodongos cavern can start with the mouth open or deku trees floor already open?

midnight depot
#

Dodongo's Cavern, Forest Temple, Spirit Temple can start with the lift enabled, for example

#

Deku Tree it's the push block

#

For shadow temple it's the shortcut that leads to the ship

weary lagoon
#

I see

midnight depot
#

In general, they make it so you need fewer items to finish the dungeons, but when you can't beat the boss they also offer an alternative path to explore

#

Just a little bit of spice

weary lagoon
#

Id go through the whole dungeon anyway to get all the checks anyway but I guess it saves some time in a few cases

midnight depot
#

Yeah!

weary lagoon
#

but can you really go back to oot without time travel anywhere..

midnight depot
#

Yeah, that's why I'm putting it in my list

weary lagoon
#

Yeah Im not sold..

midnight depot
#

All my games are ready

#

We're at 18 games

weary lagoon
#

Dr. Overwatchmulus

midnight depot
#

That's how I read it too!

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I went ahead and made the names easier to browse for posterity