#Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer

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midnight depot
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Are those the wolfos stuck in the ceiling?

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No it's a spider

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What the fuck

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Ohhhh shit

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It's Master Quest

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I was hoping to have an easy time with dungeons and a hard time with the overworld

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But no

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Today I learned Stalfos jump slashes deal double damage

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And since I take double damage already they deal four hearts per hit

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Okay, so

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Master Quest Dungeons do not change the structure of each level

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But add or remove enemies and interactable objects

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Like a remix of sorts

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It's extraordinarily difficult to drop from this position to the ground

weary lagoon
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lmao

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I thought the box puzzle in lon lon ranch was bad

midnight depot
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Technically don't need to drop here. I just wanted to explore

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It's only a little harder than the vanilla dungeon.

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From the setting file it says MQ Dungeon Count: 2

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So I have this one and another MQ dungeon

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Freaky

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This button flips the twisting hallway instead of shooting the eye

fresh hill
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took me long enough to finish work and that mod thing that now I have enough time pieces for another telescope too

midnight depot
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[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Magic Meter is at Ice Cave Bottom (B3) - IceD Room 2 in LlisandurFF1's World. (not found)

fresh hill
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but the trolling continues, this is another hookshot act

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got the 2 checks that do exist there

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the shop check in the spaceship is one of those silly money for money trades

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so DW time

weary lagoon
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im going to play oot

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i can probably do a lot with bombs

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and silver scale allows me to escape the forest via the zoras domain shortcut so I think I can go everywhere now

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and theres slingshot

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I have everything already..

midnight depot
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Good luck

weary lagoon
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I also got weird egg but its not very important now that bosses hold songs instead of songs holding songs

tender pelican
weary lagoon
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also I didnt think about it before now but deku tree was deku tree I hope I randomized dungeons

midnight depot
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Don't worry about it

midnight depot
weary lagoon
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yeah thats supposed to be everything except ganons castle

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i wanted to have to get the rainbow bridge to go there

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Artiks sent Triforce Piece to FlitterOoT (LW Near Shortcuts Grotto Chest)

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looks like you have triforce hunt on

midnight depot
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Thanks

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I have 13/80 pieces

fresh hill
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well that was a thoroughly mediocre Security Breach

midnight depot
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Nice

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Security Breach was not a fun level

fresh hill
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I like most of it, I'm just bad at it

midnight depot
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Let's fight phantom ganon

fresh hill
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let's do a rift collapse DW

weary lagoon
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Artiks sent Power Plus to FlitterPM (Market GS Guard House)

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the greatest badge

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Artiks sent Goombario to FlitterPM (Market Bazaar Item 5)

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The greatest partner

midnight depot
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Ooh thanks

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Goombario is unironically good

weary lagoon
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i forgot to do song of passing start item

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Translator to dr rOWmulus (Forest Temple Phantom Ganon Heart) Is this what you wanted?

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If you want I can send you Sun's song or whatever it is you may have forgotten

fresh hill
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first try with 4 seconds to spare

weary lagoon
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no ill suffer the consequences of my mistake

midnight depot
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Okay, now that I finished forest temple

weary lagoon
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song of time was on impa

midnight depot
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Let's look up how the fuck I can drain the well

weary lagoon
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I thought it was on bosses

fresh hill
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ah yes, how could I forget about this item

midnight depot
weary lagoon
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Impa is now a dungeon

fresh hill
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damn, that is worse

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perfect handicap

weary lagoon
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its too early to get song of time

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I have too much game now

midnight depot
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Oh

weary lagoon
midnight depot
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Just one small key?

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I have key rings on

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FlitterOoT sent Magic Punch to FlitterApe (Sheik at Temple)

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Magic punch is a post-game gadget

fresh hill
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DW Big Parade took 3 tries due to skill issue

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ok, looks like that's BK for now

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oh duh I forgot a time rift in the hub area

weary lagoon
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are "ghost matter wavelength" or "power staff" important

fresh hill
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GM wavelength is logically required for a handful of things, I asssume Rom's not doing any of the out-of-logic options for those

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and... yeah they have Translator, so they can do most of the GM checks

weary lagoon
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check out my low hp sound

fresh hill
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now I should be BK'd

midnight depot
midnight depot
tender pelican
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Interesting that it loops through a few different lines though.

weary lagoon
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do you need AgApple

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Jabu Jabu is Jabu Jabu

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i'll take a break for now

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oh hold on I forgot to hint

tender pelican
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AgApple is like, +50 hp.

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Barely useful.

weary lagoon
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@cold valve i'll need this in order to continue playing

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what...

tender pelican
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What?

weary lagoon
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you're done?

tender pelican
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I don't have any key items.

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Hm, may have to check settings.

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Weird.

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Eh, it's a beta apworld.

midnight depot
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Oh yeah, depending on the settings FF4e's goal can be silly

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FlitterOoT sent Sky Flyer to FlitterApe (Market Bazaar Item 6)

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FlitterOoT sent Gun to LlisandurFox (Market Bazaar Item 5)

cold valve
cold valve
midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent R.C. Car to FlitterApe (Market Bombchu Shop Item 6)

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FlitterOoT sent Adamant to LlisandurFF4 (Market Bombchu Shop Item 7)

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FlitterOoT sent Progressive Defensive Heads to FlitterCC (Market Bombchu Shop Item 8)

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That's enough OoT. Can't get a headache

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It's time for Ape Escape

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I have the flier, the magic punch, the slingshot, and the RC car

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That's world 1 wrapped up

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World 2 is the jungle ruins

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This hint ought to be reachable

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90s level cartoon writing in this game is so terrible

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FlitterApe sent Pegasus Boots to La DxRomulus (2-1 Thick Jungle Monkey 11 - Elehcim)

fresh hill
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so much faster than last time

midnight depot
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FlitterApe sent Lute to LlisandurFF1 (2-1 Thick Jungle Monkey 5 - Herb)

midnight depot
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I will fucking destroy this search engine

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How did it know the exact coin I was looking for?

tender pelican
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Yay lute! Get me 31 more shards and I can beat the game. Then I don't need a boat! XD

midnight depot
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FlitterApe sent Black Shirt to LlisandurFF4 (2-1 Thick Jungle Coin - Fish Room)

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I didn't even specify the level. It just knew

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Onto 2-2

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This one's bigger

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FlitterApe sent Warp Core Installation Manual to dr rOWmulus (2-2 Dark Ruins Monkey 1 - Mooshy)

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"Should we put this area in a later level? Nah"

tender pelican
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Lol.

fresh hill
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"Dangerous climb ahead. Attempt at your own risk."

midnight depot
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FlitterApe sent Feeling Fine to FlitterPM (2-2 Dark Ruins Monkey 13 - Chino)

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This Chino character is pretty hard to catch

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That's enough for today. Still plenty to get with the gadgets and levels I have

midnight depot
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For Ixrec

fresh hill
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I was aware of both of these things?

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is this about the Tunic thing where I'd like to start with a random weapon but there's no easier way to do that than a manual dice roll?

midnight depot
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Yeah

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Roll multiple tunic games and pick one

fresh hill
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that seems like the same thing with extra steps? there's still a manual selection process at the end

midnight depot
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Okay

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There's no manual selection, actually

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You feed the weighted multi-YAML into the generator and it picks one

fresh hill
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I thought the --- thing for N yamls in one file would still generate N slots?

midnight depot
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Not exactly

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The root setting game allows you to pick just one

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game is where either your chosen game goes or, if you would like, can be filled with multiple games each with different weights.

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I'll try it out and let you know later

fresh hill
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right, I'm familiar with random game selection; that's not the thing I said I'd roll a die for

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let's just back up here

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what do you think I want to do

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or rather

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what I think I want is a weighted early_items or a weighted start_inventory

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but since those are sets and lists, not scalar values, they understandably don't have a weighting syntax

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I'm aware I could fake it by doing random selection between N entire yamls that differ only in early_items or start_inventory

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but that's more effort than manually rolling a die next time I want to play Tunic, especially when I want to change any other options

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I'm not sure I ever use the exact same yaml twice anyway; there's always some thought going into editing the other options

wet field
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obviously the most efficient thing would be to write a whole AP yaml management program, complete with a gui

midnight depot
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Okay

fresh hill
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incidentally this is why some apworlds implement a game-specific yaml option for rolling an early item

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Ender Lilies has early_maneuver, and Outer Wilds has early_key_item

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there's probably others I'm not familiar with

midnight depot
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Early Basin of Vows for DS3

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Er

fresh hill
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well, that's a single item

midnight depot
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Late

fresh hill
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if there's no random selection involved then early_items: [ Basin of Vows ] works just fine

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in that case the dedicated option is probably there either to default to true or to heavily encourage players to consider it

wet field
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Nah, iirc the ds3 early basin option is to guarentee that the basin is before needing to kill the dancer

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because if you need to kill the dancer to get your basin, that'll ruin the game for most people

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unless you have upgrade materials shuffled

fresh hill
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oh

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well since it came up, early_items should mean "sphere 1", so does "before the dancer" mean something like spheres 1-3 or is there some other DS-specific metric involved?

wet field
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I think it's the first key item you need, so that'd be sphere 1, right?

fresh hill
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"first key item" feels like it's hiding important distinctions but maybe

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but if it is sphere 1 then it would be the same as early_items: [ Basin of Vows ]

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heck let's check the code

midnight depot
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There's two items that let you get out of the second zone

fresh hill
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oh, lol, the option is Late Basin of Vows

midnight depot
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I did correct myself

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The items are the banner and the basin

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The banner allows you to go through the intended route

wet field
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oh I was thinking of the banner

fresh hill
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I see your correction now and don't know why I didn't register it before

midnight depot
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The basin allows you to fight a much harder boss and access late game areas

fresh hill
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yeah banner has an "early" option

midnight depot
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If your banner is locked behind the basin, you have to fight the dancer of the boreal valley

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And you will suffer because she is the weirdest timing boss in the series

fresh hill
cold valve
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let's play ladx

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La DxRomulus sent Forever Friend to LlisandurFox (Lower Bomb Locked Watery Chest (Angler's Tunnel))

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La DxRomulus sent Progressive Torsos to FlitterCC (Upper Bomb Locked Watery Chest (Angler's Tunnel))

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@midnight depot i need this to get artiks's biggoron sword [Hint]: La DxRomulus's Stick is at Maroon: Cursed Temple Treasure Room in FlitterCC's World at Gold. (not found)

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let's play OW

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dr rOWmulus sent Progressive Arms to FlitterCC (TH: Mines (Text Wall))

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dr rOWmulus sent Tubba Castle Key to FlitterPM (AR: Signal Locator (Text Wall))

rare oxide
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Hey, can someone peek at the spoiler for Coiled Sword? I’m kinda hard stuck without it and I don’t have enough checks for a hint.

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I’m also not sure of it isn’t just a bug? Seems like something that shouldn’t really be randomized. :/

cold valve
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there may be other ways of getting past your obstacle

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i had a similar thing my first run through ladx, where i didn't get a sword for a long time and had to do with just bombs and a power bracelet

rare oxide
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It’s literally the thing that teleports you to the first level of the game…

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I’m basically stuck in the tutorial area

cold valve
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ah, well someone more familiar with that game may be able to assist. @wet field?

wet field
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iirc the coiled sword isn't randomized?

rare oxide
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Then I’m bugged and don’t know how to proceed. -_-

wet field
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idk maybe they added it or I'm misremembering

rare oxide
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Yeah that’s why I’m trying to git someone to check the spoiler to see if it is somewhere.

cold valve
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flitter can do that but they're on riyadh time so it might be a bit

wet field
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yeah coiled sword should be in the item pool somewhere

cold valve
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dr rOWmulus sent Triforce Piece to FlitterOoT (AT: Enter the ATP)

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dr rOWmulus sent Gerudo Membership Card to FlitterOoT (BH: Northern Glacier Fuel Tank)

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dr rOWmulus sent Soul of the Deacons of the Deep to RyanDS3 (BH: Feldspar's Spare Fuel Note)

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dr rOWmulus sent SandRuby to LlisandurFF4 (Frozen Shuttle Log (Text Wheel))

cold valve
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dr rOWmulus sent Progressive All-Purpose Heads to FlitterCC (GD: Complete the Tower (Text Wall))

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my OW hints for today:
[Hint]: dr rOWmulus's Scout is at PC: Court Sorcerer Robe - chapel, second floor in RyanDS3's World. (not found)
[Hint]: dr rOWmulus's Silent Running Mode is at Collect-a-thon - Main Objective in Ixhat's World. (not found)
[Hint]: dr rOWmulus's Distress Beacon Frequency is at Cardia Swamp Island - Chest 2 in LlisandurFF1's World. (not found)

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and i'm gonna stop here

midnight depot
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It is somewhere in your world, and somewhere you can reach right now. Just find every item and you'll be able to reach it.

rare oxide
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I guess I’ll just have to figure out how to kill Havel. I’m pretty sure he’s the only thing left.

midnight depot
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You could wait for more gear from other players to make it easier

rare oxide
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YUP IT WAS ON FUCKING HAVEL

tender pelican
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Lol.

rare oxide
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Finally cheesed his guard status. Bident is a good weapon lol

tender pelican
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Welcome to randomizers? XD

rare oxide
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Had to be on him I checked literally everywhere else. >.>;;

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Unless I was just supposed to throw random stuff at the crows. O.o

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Also got some kinda unlock for Flitter.

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Is there a way to check what archipelago tradable items I just found/traded?

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WAIT I GOT BOULDER HEAVE? HELL YEAH!

tender pelican
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There's the sphere tracker. There's a link on the multiworld page.

rare oxide
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I also have crystal soul spear but not the stats to use it. T_T

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Hmm okay. I clicked the tracker link on the page but I’m not sure how to read it.

midnight depot
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It doesn't tell you about old checks, but I can share the full log

tender pelican
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Looks like it was a progressive area unlock for FlitterCC.

midnight depot
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That's good. I need those

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There is also Universal Tracker

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Which you can use to see if any items are currently accessible to you (doesn't work if the game randomizes things without telling archipelago)

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Let's play Crosscode

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FlitterCC sent Boomerang to Artiks (You've Got Mail - Reward 2)
FlitterCC sent Old Cell Key to RyanDS3 (Mine GF: Elevator)
FlitterCC sent Londor Braille Divine Tome to RyanDS3 (Temple Mine Shade Statue)```
That's ice dungeon beaten
weary lagoon
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thanks.

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good thing I saved and quit in jabu jabu

midnight depot
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This boomerang check was broken because a flaw in the design of the mod that made it impossible to obtain the normal way

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Fortunately I just got another copy of the item I need from another player

rare oxide
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Cool thank you!

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Alright I think I love this actually. The enemy placement makes NO sense but it’s hilarious. The praying zombies are just random guys.
It’s doubly hilarious when you just see the guy that’s supposed to be there. Like, “Oh, hello. Are you lost here too?”

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I’m getting wrecked by constant random nonsense, but it’s fun.

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Also by the controls, it’s been a while since I played this one.

midnight depot
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Randomizing all enemies is definitely too scary for me

rare oxide
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Spoiled by Elden Ring.

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Oh, I randomized mimics into the chests too! XP

midnight depot
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Mimics I know how to handle so they're not a big deal

rare oxide
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Heh

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Honestly it’s the constant moveset switching more than anything. Normally you fight a lot of the same guy, you get into a flow. With this almost EVERY FIGHT is completely different.

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So you’re constantly switching it up. It’s much more tiring than normal lol

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DRAGON? SIR? I already killed you in the tutorial zone!!

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And sometimes, one of the tough door guards will just be a slug lmao

midnight depot
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Okay, that's every check in the mines

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FlitterCC sent Small Key (Key Cavern) to La DxRomulus (Preemptive Debugging - Reward 1)
FlitterCC sent Darkness Crystal to LlisandurFF4 (Preemptive Debugging - Reward 2)

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FlitterCC sent Iron Boots to FlitterOoT (Trial of Progression - Reward 1)

midnight depot
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FlitterCC sent World Key to FlitterApe (Maroon: Overpass Left)

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I need every single World Key to finish Ape Escape

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FlitterCC sent Dragon Chaser's Ashes to RyanDS3 (Maroon Valley Defeat)

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FlitterCC sent Phantom Hunters to RyanDS3 (Ba'kii: Solar Farm Lower)

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I don't remember what this is but it's marked progression

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FlitterCC sent Light Arrows to FlitterOoT (Talatu Ba'kii 50%)
FlitterCC found their Progressive Area Unlock (A Promise is a Promise 3)

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FlitterCC sent Small Key (Eagle's Tower) to La DxRomulus (Shady Thief - Reward 1)

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Oh [Hint]: FlitterCC's Cold is at Vagabond Dojo Key in FlitterCC's World. (not found)

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I guess I can't finish the second temple until I'm near the end

midnight depot
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FlitterCC sent Cinders of a Lord - Yhorm the Giant to RyanDS3 (Global Shop Slot: PengoPop)```
cold valve
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TIL this is a thing

tender pelican
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Me too. XD

fresh hill
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it's a very recent feature

midnight depot
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Is it?

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FlitterCC sent Ribbon to LlisandurFF1 (Just Deserts - Reward 1)

tender pelican
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One of these days I'll get a ship. XD

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Or canoe.

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I'm going to have to start forcing the floater to be after ship and canoe. Because it's kind of useless without them.

midnight depot
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FlitterCC sent Relic (Necklace) to Ixhat (Wet Work - Reward 2)

midnight depot
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That's enough CrossCode

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The remaining checks can wait a while

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It's time for more Ape Escape

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God, the 2-3 song is terrible

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Each level has like

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A fifty second song that plays on loop

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FlitterApe sent Transposing Kiln to RyanDS3 (3-1 Stadium Attack Coin 3)

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FlitterApe sent Ribbon to La DxRomulus (3-1 Stadium Attack Coin 1)

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3-1 is next

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That one's the ocean world

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FlitterApe sent Old Dojo Key to FlitterCC (4-1 Crabby Beach Monkey 3 - Shell E.)
FlitterApe sent Gemini Crest to LlisandurMQ (4-1 Crabby Beach Monkey 4 - Gidget)

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Oh I guess it's 4-1

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FlitterApe sent Odd Key to FlitterPM (4-2 Coral Cave Coin - Second Room)

midnight depot
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My cat is saying I should stop for today

tender pelican
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I forgot I could go to marsh cave. And of course that's where my ship was.

midnight depot
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Nice

rare oxide
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Hmm /connect archipelago:59095 <username> does not work lol

midnight depot
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Visit the game page to start it up

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The link is in the first pin

rare oxide
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Oh no it’s missing the .gg I caught my mistake, I lust thought it war funny.

midnight depot
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Oh yeah

rare oxide
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Haha, the short cut isn’t shorter because the enemies on it are WAY worse lmao

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-_________-

midnight depot
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The best shortcut is killing the boss without dying

weary lagoon
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I'm going to play Ocarina of Time!

midnight depot
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Good luck!

weary lagoon
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zeldas lullaby from jabu, great stuff

weary lagoon
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Just turned into an adult

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3 stones for rainbow bridge

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and open ganons castle?

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and I already have almost every item thats a quick seed

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good progress, nice items

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including the fabled koopa fortress key

midnight depot
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Ooh nice

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I need three or four of those to finish koopa fortress

rare oxide
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I GOT SULLIVAN AS THE FIRST AREA BOSS LMAO

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Welp.

tender pelican
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Could be another dragon.

rare oxide
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I’d rather another dragon. :p

tender pelican
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:P

wet field
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Do you have titanite randomized?

rare oxide
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Yup

midnight depot
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Hell yeah

rare oxide
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I mean, there’s a reason I went wizard for my first time doing this. :p

midnight depot
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Doesn't the first area have two bosses? You can try the basin boss instead of the banner boss

rare oxide
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Hmm true.

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I can beat this guy though. Just some crazy lol

midnight depot
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Good luck!

wet field
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Ah nice. So you can probably get bailed out so to speak if it's too hard

rare oxide
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Damn I gotta stop trying to jump attack everything. Too much Elden Ring lol

wet field
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Jump attack too stronk

weary lagoon
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they learned that from Zelda

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jump attack deals double damage

midnight depot
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Hi

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Let's play Archipelago

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But which game?

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I think right now I'm in an Ape Escape mood

fresh hill
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afaik my AHiT is still BK'd

tender pelican
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Can you get this?
[Hint]: LlisandurMQ's Multi Key is at 9-1 Monkey Madness Coin - Coaster (Room 1) in FlitterApe's World. (not found)

midnight depot
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Let's find out

weary lagoon
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you have to get roms stick

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he needs it for my sword

midnight depot
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No I'm at world 7 max

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Where is Rom's stick?

weary lagoon
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he pinged u with it

midnight depot
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Maroon: Cursed Temple Treasure Room

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I need cold for that

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Won't be able to get it until the endgame

weary lagoon
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Damn it!!!!!!!!!!

midnight depot
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I still can't believe the Bizhawk team did this

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The Lua console is the button you need to play the game and it will only work if you click it

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The TAStudio button deletes your save

tender pelican
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Yeah, that's what happened last time with FF1. I'd rather use Retroarch but that doesn't work with NES games.

fresh hill
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can you control that menu with alt+letters instead?

midnight depot
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Yeah and I can open the lua console window through a shortcut

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But still

fresh hill
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yeah

midnight depot
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It's like putting high explosives in your pantry

tender pelican
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So you can also make a shortcut that opens bizhawk and the lua file you need.

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And if you're on windows make it also open the rom.

midnight depot
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Time to do Jabu Jabu

tender pelican
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Make a shortcut to Bizhawk and add --lua=<path to lua> after the exe.

midnight depot
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Yeah I already did that but I'm still mad

tender pelican
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Yeah, they should at least make it backup the old save before deleting.

midnight depot
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FlitterApe sent Metro Ticket - Yellow to Ixhat (4-3 Dexters Island Monkey 4 - Howeerd)

cold valve
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I just drag the lua file onto bizhawk every time it opens

midnight depot
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Brilliant design

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These flying things are white blood cells or whatever

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When you're close they commit suicide by hitting you, and they drop nothing if they die that way

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But if they do it while jumping they give normal drops

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Turns out, they don't give drops because the drops just spawn below the floor?

tender pelican
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Lol.

midnight depot
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Going out of bounds to skip an item

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Normally you need to stand on the red button right here and wait for a door to open then use the hula hoop to dash before it closes

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FlitterApe sent Letter to Muss T to FlitterPM (4-3 Dexters Island Monkey 6 - Jakkee)
FlitterApe sent Carthus Pyromancy Tome to RyanDS3 (4-3 Dexters Island Monkey 7 - Frederic)

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Next is world 5

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FlitterApe sent Magic Meter to FlitterOoT (5-1 Snowy Mammoth Monkey 5 - Rickets)

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My magic!

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I don't need the other magic as much

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FlitterApe sent Rutos Letter to FlitterOoT (5-2 Frosty Retreat Monkey 5 - Shadow)

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[Hint]: FlitterApe's Monkey Radar is at Ganons Tower Boss Key Chest in FlitterOoT's World. (not found) wow fuck you

tender pelican
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Lmao.

weary lagoon
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rip

midnight depot
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I don't technically need it for anything but I want it because it makes things easier

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FlitterApe sent Steel Sword to LlisandurMQ (5-2 Frosty Retreat Monkey 9 - Droog)

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[Hint]: FlitterApe's Super Hoop is at Dead Bird Studio - Conductor Chest in Ixhat's World at Time Rift - Pipe. (not found)

tender pelican
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Yay, I can do the one single dungeon that requires the sword.

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If it wasn't for that dungeon the sword wouldn't be required nearly at all. Well, there's another dungeon that needs it to open some stuff. So two dungeons total that need it.

midnight depot
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Makes sense

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FlitterApe sent Slime Key to La DxRomulus (5-3 Hot Springs Monkey 8 - Claxter)

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That's world 5.

cold valve
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Hell yeah, now I can do level 3

midnight depot
#

Time for the second race and that'll be enough for the day

cold valve
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I might even have enough keys by now, too

midnight depot
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FlitterApe sent Pink Tail to LlisandurFF4 (6-1 Gladiator Attack Coin 3)

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With this many coins I unlock the second minigame

tender pelican
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And back to BK on everything.

cold valve
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I'll see what I can get done in my games before duck tales but I'll have more time tomorrow to do outer wilds

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There's several checks on each planet still

midnight depot
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I'm taking my time

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Tomorrow I will play Paper Mario since I got a lot of checks for it today

cold valve
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Actually I will save OW for tomorrow

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Ladx I can easily keep bk'd. Plus, level 3 should have a bunch of stuff for y'all in it

midnight depot
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Hi

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Let's play Paper Mario

weary lagoon
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yahoo!

midnight depot
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I gotta fight the 30 HP blooper if I want to get to the jungle shortcut

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That was way easier than I expected

weary lagoon
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must be that power plus I sent you

midnight depot
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That's true. I am using both power plus badges that I have

midnight depot
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My hammer is sad compared to my boots

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Boots deal 10 damage per attack while hammer deals 4

fresh hill
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for a second I thought your hammer was literally sad, as that would be on-brand here

midnight depot
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My hammer cannot be sad, but my boots can be sleepy

weary lagoon
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thats why they never brought Bombette back for another game

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a true menace, a villain

midnight depot
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Time to fight blooper 2, who has L HP

weary lagoon
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ive never seen that before

midnight depot
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I have a setting that makes HP be displayed in roman numerals

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L is 50

weary lagoon
#

Thats true I uploaded Legday L to my strava a few months ago

fresh hill
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why

midnight depot
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It teaches me roman numerals

midnight depot
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Oh I realized the consequences of my settings

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DDD N1W3 Special Block Hit Block Plenty

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With the game mirrored I have to count one north and three east from the actual entrance

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That's the desert, goomba road, koopa road done

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[Hint]: FlitterPM's Parakarry is at Shadow Temple Boss Key Chest in Artiks's World at Death Mountain -> Dodongos Cavern Beginning. (not found)

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[Hint]: FlitterPM's Bow is at Garden: Ringing River Lower in FlitterCC's World at Bronze. (not found)

weary lagoon
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I will get that today. I saved and quit in shadow temple last time

midnight depot
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That's good! It's blocking a badge and I want to see what badge it is

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[Hint]: FlitterPM's Lakilester is at BH: Riebeck's Southern Observatory Recorder in dr rOWmulus's World. (not found)

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FlitterPM sent Ice Hat to Ixhat (SSS Merluvlee's House Merlow's Rewards 3)

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The first good item of today!

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Let's take a break.

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When I come back I want to do Boo's Mansion, forest hidden panel, and Jade Jungle.

fresh hill
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does ice hat get me anywhere...

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I think that's 2/3 hats for the finale telescope, but nothing new on its own?

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if I had enough points for a hint I'd probably go for dweller hat or hookshot

weary lagoon
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Time to play OoT

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I expected a lot more items after not playing since friday NejireAah but I still have a million things to do

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i guess shadow is out of logic cause no lense but it'll be fine..

midnight depot
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I always make logic ignore lens of truth since I have everything memorized

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In practice I use lens of truth to spot dead hand's position underground and bomb him out, to kill floormasters before they grow back, but not for actual checks

weary lagoon
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i found a final fantasy 1 shard and a links awakening key

tender pelican
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Yay shard.

weary lagoon
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I found another shard

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what are shards

cold valve
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Two shards, you say

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/farnsworth

tender pelican
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So in the normal game you light the four orbs to enter the final dungeon. In the randomizer, there's an option to collect a number of shards instead. So basically, I have to collect a bunch to enter the final dungeon to beat the game.

weary lagoon
#

holy crap another small key for links awakening

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and theres Parakarry

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Im not sure if ive done Dodongo without lens before

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Uh bongo bongo

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or whatever his name is..

midnight depot
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Thanks!

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Bongo Bongo without Lens is harder but you can learn the timing

weary lagoon
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Alright its free..

midnight depot
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You just watch for the hands

weary lagoon
#

he had prelude of light!

midnight depot
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That's the most useful warp song if you don't entrance shuffle

weary lagoon
#

its convenient idk about most useful

midnight depot
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Convenience is use

weary lagoon
#

have you heard about save and quit it puts you in the same spot

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ANOTHER Koopa fortress key?!!!

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Call me the keymaster

cold valve
weary lagoon
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catfish and eagle

cold valve
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Sweet

weary lagoon
#

fire temple is the well

cold valve
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I think I only need a shield and the bird key to do all of eagle's tower now

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Oh wait I need flippers or rooster to get there in the first place

weary lagoon
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perhaps the most powerful deku scrub grotto of all time?

midnight depot
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Save and quit is great if you're adult link but not as child link

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Thank you for artifact

weary lagoon
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Sky Fragment

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The Ice Cavern is the Ice Cavern

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ill stop for now.

fresh hill
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too bad you can’t shuffle fake walls without breaking the dungeon

midnight depot
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With Lens of Truth it's possible to make ALL chests invisible so your memorization job is harder

fresh hill
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nice

midnight depot
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let's play more PM

fresh hill
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ok now the tracker's mocking me

midnight depot
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Today I learned you can get this check without lakilester

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Just need to cancel spin dashes early by jumping

midnight depot
#

The badge was deep focus

midnight depot
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That's enough Paper Mario for today

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All the checks were bad

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Next time I will play OoT

weary lagoon
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pretty sure the intended way to get that is with Bow

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minuet of forest in ice cavern

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Forest temple is fire temple

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I have keys but no hammer

weary lagoon
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@midnight depot this would be nice to have

midnight depot
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At World 9

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I'll hint for the world but

cold valve
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let's play ladx

cold valve
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La DxRomulus sent Flask Shard to LlisandurFox (Sword Stalfos, Keese Switch Chest (Key Cavern))
La DxRomulus sent Card Slot to LlisandurFox (Tile Arrow Ledge Chest (Key Cavern))
La DxRomulus sent DragonArmor to LlisandurFF1 (Boots Chest (Key Cavern))
La DxRomulus sent Golden Coin to LlisandurFox (Two Zol, Two Pairodd Key (Key Cavern))

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lots of stuff for llisandur in there

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level 3 done

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7 instruments remain

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@rare oxide do you need a Chaos Gem?

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[Hint]: La DxRomulus's Progressive Shield is at DB: Scan Harmonica Signal in dr rOWmulus's World. (not found) boo i need silent running and scout for this

midnight depot
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It's a low priority item

cold valve
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at the moment i can get either the chaos gem or a seashell

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until i get another key cavern key

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but neither of those are progression

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well the seashell kinda is but there's a bunch

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La DxRomulus sent Sushie Upgrade to FlitterPM (Donut Plains Ledge Dig (Donut Plains))

midnight depot
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Thank you

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Sushie is surprisingly useful this run since all my other companions are unupgraded

cold valve
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La DxRomulus sent Crystal Sword to LlisandurFF4 (Second Switch Locked Chest (Bottle Grotto))

tender pelican
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Oh nice.

cold valve
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these are my current hints

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i need all of them

midnight depot
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Wow everything is in Crosscode

cold valve
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and DS3

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let's play outer wild manes

rare oxide
cold valve
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oop

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i'll go get that after OW

rare oxide
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Hehe no problem. Doing BG3 with friends tonight, in no hurry.

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Been grinding souls so I can kill stupid Sulyvahn.

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Almost have respectable HP now.

cold valve
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ok, fuck the high energy lab before i get expanded oxygen tanks @fresh hill

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that's evil

fresh hill
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I've been doing this so long that last time I did a playtest I did HEL and Lakebed in the same loop just to see if they could both fit

cold valve
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wasted a perfectly good loop

fresh hill
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but yeah for the HEL part you need to sit on the trees in sunless city for a bit before you drop down to the caves below

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this is one of the parts where I tend to rely on the clock mod

cold valve
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i got to the cave too early and had to wait for the sand, but didn't have the air

fresh hill
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now the really fun part is

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on logsanity, the HEL has a location that doesn't require the Translator

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so it's possible (albeit rare) to need to visit it twice

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(I deliberately did not inflict this on non-logsanity players)

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all of this is also a good example of why the rando defaults to vanilla spawn where Launch Codes are locked to Hornfels: imagine losing a loop that way after you'd spawned on Brittle Hollow and fell through to WHS and used its warp pad to get to Ash Twin and then did the jump over to Ember Twin and then tried the HEL

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(I didn't lose a loop in that particular way on the seed with those warps, but it was something equally dumb)

cold valve
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which is more powerful, my desire to scan an AT tower, or one sandy boi

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anyway i guess i'll do an ember twin check if i can

fresh hill
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nothing stopping you from doing Lakebed Cave cozynotevil

cold valve
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nvm, it nabbed my ship too, i flew back

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OH

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earlier when i warped from sun tower i ended up on ash twin surface, but that actually goes to timber hearth tower

fresh hill
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ah, I had wondered if that bit confused you or not

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the best part is when a new player discovers what the warp to sun station does if the sun station no longer exists

cold valve
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i did wonder about that

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i'm guessing toast city

fresh hill
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it actually throws you out into deep space, a few dozen kilometers from the sun

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I have no idea why

cold valve
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nice, i found gabbro's ship just as the thing happened, i had 2 seconds to spare

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dammit, unity crash

fresh hill
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when I added that I was so worried gabbro's ship would turn out to be frustrating to locate but apparently it's totally fine

cold valve
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from the OMWL: NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object Stacktrace: AudioSignalDetectionTrigger.OnDestroy () (at <bb45013cdd174c6e9670b07181b0b751>:0)

fresh hill
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yeah don't worry about the end-of-loop unity crashes, unless you stumble on consistent repro steps

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we've tried and failed to pin those down for literal months

cold valve
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ok, i'll see if i can notice a pattern

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oh man i just had the perfect dive onto the orbital probe, still no velocity matcher. man i hope i don't die here, i really don't want to try that again

fresh hill
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is your GD right next to the sun? rdsnrk

cold valve
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fuckkk me dr rOWmulus found their Ship Damage Trap (GD: Enter the Orbital Probe Cannon)

fresh hill
#

wow

cold valve
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god damn it i just heard my ship blow up

fresh hill
#

on the plus side, you don't need it to finish the OPC checks

cold valve
cold valve
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giant's deep finished (for now)

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all that's left is my least favorite parts

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i braved hollow's lantern without a velocity matcher and all i got was a gold skulltula token

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yes! i managed to outrun the end thingie

cold valve
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here's your thing dr rOWmulus sent Lakilester to FlitterPM (BH: Riebeck's Southern Observatory Recorder)

midnight depot
#

Thanks!

cold valve
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one more hint for crosscode lol [Hint]: dr rOWmulus's Quantum Fluctuations Frequency is at Garden: Calm Backyard Right in FlitterCC's World at Bronze. (not found)

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ok, it's 9pm, i will stop here. i still have a few annoying ember twin checks and my absolute favorite task of getting into the southern observatory before some horseshit happens

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[Hint]: dr rOWmulus's Escape Pod 3 Signal is at GF Chest in Artiks's World. (not found)

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it's in the garfield chest

midnight depot
#

GF

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Oh Gerudo Fortress

cold valve
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Great Fairy

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she has quite a chest

midnight depot
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What's the location?

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Gerudo Fortress only has one chest and it requires hoverboots or longshot

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If you use the latter you'll also need ocarina

cold valve
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i have enough points for one more hint, i wonder what i should use it on

midnight depot
#

A location you don't wanna do

cold valve
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lakebed cave

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easily my least favorite location in the game

fresh hill
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since I remain BK’d, maybe we could server hint my Hookshot Badge and I’ll just waste my first hint when I do get more checks?

cold valve
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wow, my OW is suddenly the highest %

fresh hill
#

Translator is very powerful on default options

cold valve
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i have less checks than ryan, who is the lowest %

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but he has 1192 total checks

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and i only have 87

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man that's crazy to think about

fresh hill
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my current guesstimate for maximum possible OW locations after I finish adding content to it is 600-650

midnight depot
#

You should exclude it next time

midnight depot
#

Hi.

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Let's play Crosscode for a bit to see if I can get hinted stuff

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[Hint]: FlitterCC's White Key is at Dwarf Castle -- East tower 3F -- left in LlisandurFF4's World. (not found)
[Hint]: FlitterCC's Radiant Key is at HWL: Club - flame plaza in RyanDS3's World. (not found)

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FlitterCC sent Small Key (Catfish's Maw) to La DxRomulus (Garden: Overgrown Path Left)

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FlitterCC sent Quantum Fluctuations Frequency to dr rOWmulus (Garden: Calm Backyard Right)

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The white key allows me to open all silver chests, and the radiant key all gold

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FlitterCC sent Relic (Blue Crayon) to Ixhat (Garden: Peridot Approach Lower)

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FlitterCC sent Tears of Denial to RyanDS3 (Garden: Wet Passage Upper)

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Tears of denial is very handy in low HP builds

tender pelican
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I need [Hint]: LlisandurFF4's Magma Key is at Song from Royal Familys Tomb in FlitterOoT's World at Zoras Domain -> ZD Storms Grotto. (not found) or maybe [Hint]: LlisandurFF4's Hook is at Alpine Skyline - The Lava Cake: Dweller Pillars in Ixhat's World at Down with the Mafia!. (not found) to get your white key.

midnight depot
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Got it

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FlitterCC sent Bow to FlitterPM (Garden: Ringing River Lower)

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FlitterCC sent Bomb to LlisandurMQ (Garden: V'rda Vil East Lower)
FlitterCC sent Jailbreaker's Key to RyanDS3 (Garden: V'rda Vil West Lower Right)

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FlitterCC sent Covetous Gold Serpent Ring to RyanDS3 (Garden: Splitting Stumps Lower) this should at least be marked useful

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FlitterCC sent Ocarina to La DxRomulus (A Promise is a Promise 2)

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FlitterCC sent Bombette Upgrade to FlitterPM (Global Shop Slot: Meaty Risotto)
FlitterCC sent Tnt to LlisandurFF1 (Global Shop Slot: Spicy Bun)
FlitterCC sent Small Key (Angler's Tunnel) to La DxRomulus (Global Shop Slot: Veggie Sticks)
FlitterCC sent Ladders in Hourglass Cave to LlisandurFox (Global Shop Slot: Sweet Lemonjuice)
FlitterCC sent Watt Upgrade to FlitterPM (Global Shop Slot: Salted Peanuts)

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FlitterCC sent Old House Key to LlisandurFox (Turret Defense - Reward 2)

weary lagoon
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watt upgrade lfg

midnight depot
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[Hint]: FlitterCC's Shock is at FS: Karla's Gloves - Prisoner Chief's Ashes in RyanDS3's World. (not found)

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FlitterCC sent Small Key (Color Dungeon) to La DxRomulus (Global Shop Slot: Chili Con Carne)

fresh hill
midnight depot
fresh hill
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oh wait that hint has an entrance in it

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…yeah, needs hookshot at least

midnight depot
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[Hint]: FlitterCC's Wave is at Bottom of the Well Center Skulltula Chest in Artiks's World at DMC Fire Temple Entrance -> Fire Temple Lower. (not found)

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Reminder that I need the rest of my elements to do puzzles:

[Hint]: FlitterCC's Cold is at Vagabond Dojo Key in FlitterCC's World. (not found)
[Hint]: FlitterCC's Wave is at Bottom of the Well Center Skulltula Chest in Artiks's World at DMC Fire Temple Entrance -> Fire Temple Lower. (not found)```
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Let's do OoT

midnight depot
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Thanks for strength, gerudo membership, iron boots, light arrows, nayru's love, minuet of forest, magic, wallet, longshot, zelda's lullaby, more magic, ruto's letter, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death? death?! water temple boss key, death, death, death, death.

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FlitterOoT sent Frying Pan to FlitterPM (DMC Deku Scrub Grotto Left) I can cook!

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Baron Key to LlisandurFF4 (Song from Windmill)

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I think you need this

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FlitterOoT sent Shrine Door Codes to dr rOWmulus (Kak Bazaar Item 7)
FlitterOoT sent Pyramid Stone to FlitterPM (Kak Bazaar Item 8)
FlitterOoT sent Gerudo Membership Card to Artiks (Kak Potion Shop Item 7)```
midnight depot
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I looked all over for this fucker

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The switch to drain the well is hidden in the side of the well in Master Quest

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FlitterOoT sent Small Key Ring (Bottom of the Well) to Artiks (Wasteland Crate After Quicksand 2)

midnight depot
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Dampe race time of 58

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Today I learned

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You can make the jump to this platform, play scarecrow song and hookshot into the next one, then get to fire temple without iron boots or access to Goron City

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With no keys nor megaton hammer I only have access to the one check

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Cinders of a Lord - Abyss Watcher to RyanDS3 (Ice Cavern GS Push Block Room)

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FlitterOoT sent Shop Unlock: Ridge Items to FlitterCC (Kak 30 Gold Skulltula Reward)

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With this one I just need one more progressive area unlock to get the ridge items hint in Crosscode

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[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Hover Boots is at Tasksanity Check 13 in Ixhat's World at Time Rift - The Lab. (not found)

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I will stop here for today. Tomorrow I will do child Link checks

fresh hill
midnight depot
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It's okay, don't dwell on it

fresh hill
#

oooh, it looks I have enough time pieces for some new telescopes today

midnight depot
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Hi

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I can't sleep so let's play Ape Escape

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[Hint]: FlitterApe's World Key is at Song from Ocarina of Time in FlitterOoT's World. (not found)
[Hint]: FlitterApe's World Key is at Act Completion (Time Rift - The Moon) in Ixhat's World at Time Rift - Curly Tail Trail. (not found)

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If I recall correctly world 9 is the endgame. I have up to 7

fresh hill
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welp I ended up modding and taking a nap instead of playing AHiT

midnight depot
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Naps are good

fresh hill
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maybe tomorrow, that's my last commute day for a while so I'll have more time freeing up again

midnight depot
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FlitterApe sent Titanite Slab to RyanDS3 (7-1 Sushi Temple Coin - Well)

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FlitterApe sent Adamant to LlisandurFF1 (7-1 Sushi Temple Monkey 2 - Rocka)
FlitterApe sent Red Key to FlitterPM (7-1 Sushi Temple Monkey 11 - Elly)

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FlitterApe sent Hero Relic - MP to LlisandurFox (7-2 Wabi Sabi Wall Coin - Gong Room)

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FlitterApe sent Maroon Cave Pass to FlitterCC (7-2 Wabi Sabi Wall Monkey 6 - Buddha)

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They really called this guy Buddha

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He has a gun!

midnight depot
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Time to do 7-3

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This one's a fakeout where they make you think it's the end of the game before throwing the real endgame at you

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It even comes with a final boss

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FlitterApe sent Guild Pass to FlitterCC (7-3 Crumbling Castle Monkey 2 - Robart)

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The music budget is mildly upped for this area

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Grim as fuck

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FlitterApe sent Easterner's Ashes to RyanDS3 (7-3 Crumbling Castle Monkey 16 - Densil)

midnight depot
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FlitterApe sent Letter to Nomadimouse to FlitterPM (7-3 Crumbling Castle Monkey 4 - Gustav)

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All done!

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FlitterApe sent Time Stop Hat to Ixhat (7-3 Crumbling Castle Monkey 6 - Emmanuel)

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As a reminder here are the hints I need for Ape Escape:

FlitterApe's Super Hoop is at Dead Bird Studio - Conductor Chest in Ixhat's World at Time Rift - Pipe. (not found)
FlitterApe's World Key is at Song from Ocarina of Time in FlitterOoT's World. (not found)```
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I need both world keys to get Artiks's megaton hammer, Llisandur's Multi Key

fresh hill
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of course I get time stop hat when I have none of the levels where it's useful

midnight depot
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It was the very last check too

fresh hill
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well, maybe I do now, guess we'll find out next time

weary lagoon
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is ixhat hard stuck at the beginning

midnight depot
#

Hi

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Let's play Paper Mario

fresh hill
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I was, but yesterday I got unstuck, just didn't get to playing

weary lagoon
#

oo nice

midnight depot
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I have every companion! This should make it easier to navigate, but I still need a bunch of key items to unlock stuff

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get fucked, blood sucking jungle parasites

midnight depot
#

Jade Jungle had nothing but trash

midnight depot
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Doing this part of the chapter out of logic

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Turns out, you can just memorize the solution to the colored box puzzle

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That's Paper Mario in BK mode. Ape escape is still there too

fresh hill
#

let's play AHiT

#

dang, I have 8 relics but none of the complete sets

#

3rd telescope was another one-and-done

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4th telescope chose a different form of trolling by giving me vanilla Big Parade (last time I spent too long on the DW version)

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also by crashing

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have I mentioned the trolling?

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on the other hand I'm pretty sure that's the best TBP score I've ever gotten

#

that's a subcon forest act

#

ITEMS INCOMING

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and we're back to trolling

#

what even is this seed

#

I probably should've expected laser traps in the swamp

fresh hill
#

ok, we're BK'd again

midnight depot
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Wow and my games didn't get anything

#

I guess I'd better play more OoT then

fresh hill
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Ixhat sent Progressive Torsos to FlitterCC (Subcon Village - Tree Top Ice Cube)
Ixhat sent Nightmare Key (Eagle's Tower) to La DxRomulus (Subcon Village - House Top)
Ixhat sent Progressive Area Unlock to FlitterCC (Subcon Forest - Burning Stump Chest)
Ixhat sent Ladder to Swamp to LlisandurFox (Subcon Forest - Spider Bone Cage A)
Ixhat sent Chameleon to RyanDS3 (Subcon Forest - Swamp Gravestone)
Ixhat sent Triforce Piece to FlitterOoT (Subcon Forest - Green and Purple Dweller Rocks)
midnight depot
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Oh, progressive area unlock

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I wonder why that didn't register. Might be the broken meteor shade bug

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Let's play Crosscode then!

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Actually, no

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It's because it unlocked a dungeon I can't do yet because I'm missing elements

midnight depot
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FlitterCC sent Ladder to Ruined Atoll to LlisandurFox (Faj'ro 4F: West Chamber 1)

midnight depot
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Hi

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Let's play OoT

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Thanks for nothing

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I think I can do Dodongo's cavern

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Large Titanite Shard to RyanDS3 (Dodongos Cavern King Dodongo Heart)

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Excuse you?

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This is a priority check

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Where's my progression item

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Oh, it wasn't.

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I'll add it

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FlitterOoT sent Ladders in Overworld Town to LlisandurFox (GC Shop Item 6)
FlitterOoT sent Progressive Sword to La DxRomulus (GC Shop Item 5)

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Ladders in Lower Quarry to LlisandurFox (GC Rolling Goron as Child)

tender pelican
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Yay ladders.

tender pelican
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Lol, I translated one of the hint givers for Tunic and someone got one of the symbols mixed up. It's saying "reej" instead of "reach".

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Turtle Rock) to La DxRomulus (ZF GS Above the Log)

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FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Bottle Grotto) to La DxRomulus (Jabu Jabus Belly Compass Chest)

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Barinade is dead. That's all three child dungeons

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FlitterOoT sent Coiled Sword Fragment to RyanDS3 (Jabu Jabus Belly Barinade Heart)!

cold valve
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let's play ladx

midnight depot
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Good luck

cold valve
#

thanks for stuff!

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Magical Seed to FlitterPM (Hideout Break Room Crate 1)

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Magic Orb to LlisandurFox (ZR GS Near Raised Grottos)

tender pelican
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Yay. Too bad I still only have a stick to hit things with. XD

midnight depot
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Spirit Temple is Master Quest!

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The last fucking location

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FlitterOoT sent One-Hit Hero Badge to Ixhat (OGC GS)

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Quantum Moon Signal to dr rOWmulus (Market Bazaar Item 7)

midnight depot
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That's enough OoT for now

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[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Weird Egg is at Sky Fortress Provides (3F) - Greed 4 in LlisandurFF1's World. (not found)

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[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Megaton Hammer is at Ganons Castle Shadow Trial Golden Gauntlets Chest in Artiks's World. (not found)

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[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Hover Boots is at Tasksanity Check 13 in Ixhat's World at Time Rift - The Lab. (not found)

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[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Dins Fire is at Overworld - [Southwest] Fountain Page in LlisandurFox's World. (not found)

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I'm close to all of my games being in BK mode. Is anyone else stuck? What do you need?

tender pelican
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Not quite sure for Tunic. For the other games I've hinted the items I need, so they're on the progress page. I can go to my computer if you want me to post them.

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I think I have a hint in your OoT.

cold valve
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flippers would blow my ladx wide open

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for OW, i'm not sure what would be most impactful, but getting into dark bramble would be best probably

weary lagoon
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I still have checks but ive been a bit busy working on my ultimate move

fresh hill
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oh right, after yesterday I should be able to do a hint now

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are hover boots useful enough in your current situation that I should spend my hint on Dweller Hat to get into The Lab?

midnight depot
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Yeah

fresh hill
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conveniently I just finished my next OW release, so let's do that hint now

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that took way too long to launch a text client

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[Hint]: Ixhat's Dweller Mask is at Town of Monsters -- Save Room -- right in LlisandurFF4's World. (not found)

tender pelican
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Need the magma key for that.

midnight depot
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Hi

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Ape Escape, Crosscode and Paper Mario have no new stuff, so I'll play more OoT in a bit

fresh hill
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double-checked that Ixhat remains fully BK'd

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iirc the only remaining telescope is behind the same dweller barrier as the lab, so it's probably all waiting on hookshot badge and dweller hat

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actually, I have enough hint points for a 2nd hint, I don't see anything coming close to as important as hookshot so let's just do that now

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[Hint]: Ixhat's Hookshot Badge is at US: Cleric Trousers - graveyard by white tree in RyanDS3's World. (not found)

tender pelican
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FlitterOoT LlisandurFF1 Canoe Deku Tree GS Basement Back Room Ocarina of Time Vanilla
FlitterOoT LlisandurFF4 Magma Key Song from Royal Familys Tomb Ocarina of Time Zoras Domain -> ZD Storms Grotto

midnight depot
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Graveyard by white tree

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That's where the giant shoots his arrows

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It's nearby but may not be reachable yet

tender pelican
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Except the giant might not be there. XD

midnight depot
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[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Song of Storms is at Alpine Skyline - Bird Pass Fork in Ixhat's World at Down with the Mafia!. (not found)

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I can get the Canoe, actually

tender pelican
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Canoe unlocks a dungeon.

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So lots of checks.

fresh hill
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oh that's where my alpine entrance is

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iirc the mafia telescope started with a hookshot level

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Canoe to LlisandurFF1 (Deku Tree GS Basement Back Room)

tender pelican
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Yay.

midnight depot
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Grotto randomizer doesn't seem much at first

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but it's surprisingly annoying to deal with since each grotto has a different access requirement

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FlitterOoT found their Biggoron Sword (Wasteland GS)

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Hell yeah I forgot this was there

midnight depot
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My stone of agony is triggering INSIDE the dungeon?

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This is a fucking puzzle

wet field
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Hm, I don't remember that

midnight depot
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Tracker says I can get a chest here.

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But bombs don't seem to work

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Oh

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Apparently what I assumed to be a weird malformed texture was a button instead

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FlitterOoT sent World Key to FlitterApe (Song from Ocarina of Time)

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Ape Escape has one more world to do!

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FlitterOoT sent Thunder Rock to LlisandurMQ (Market Bazaar Item 8)

tender pelican
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As soon as I can get to the fourth section of the map I have basically everything I need to beat that game now. XD

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I may still need some weapons.

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Letter to Dane T 2 to FlitterPM (HF Southeast Grotto Chest)

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Okay. Let's stop here for now

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Remaining locations to check: Some of spirit and water temples, two gold skulltulas in gerudo fortress, colossus bean ride, theater GS.

wet field
midnight depot
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Hi

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Let's play Ape Escape

midnight depot
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Can you spot the bug here?

#
    def unlockLevels(self, monkeylevelCounts, gadgets,gameState,gadgetUseState,level_info,hundoMonkeysCount,spikeState):

        key = self.worldkeycount
        key = 4
        curApesWrite = ""
        reqApesWrite = ""
        hundoWrite = ""
        currentApes = level_info[0]
        requiredApes = level_info[1]
        currentLevel = level_info[2]
        localhundoCount = level_info[3]
        W2UnLock = key >= 1
        W3UnLock = key >= 2
        W4UnLock = key >= 3
        W5UnLock = key >= 3
        W6UnLock = key >= 4
        W7UnLock = key >= 5
        W8UnLock = key >= 5
        W9UnLock = key >= 6
        allCompleted = True
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||The developer set keys to 4 so they can test something with world 7, then left it in the actual release||

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Makes it impossible to reach world 8.

fresh hill
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and this is why I always do git status/diff before a git commit

midnight depot
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With that out of the way, let's properly play the game

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How did they get the rights to this name?

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World 8 is the current day, which is when the game gets real

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FlitterApe sent Grave Warden's Ashes to RyanDS3 (8-1 City Park Coin - Barrel Room)

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FlitterApe sent Pulse Stone to FlitterPM (8-1 City Park Monkey 9 - CK Hutch)

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FlitterApe sent Pale Tongue to RyanDS3 (8-1 City Park Monkey 11 - B Luv)

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I think you need one of those for the faction?

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Time for 8-2

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I actually can only get to three monkeys here

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But I get to drive a tank (with tank controls)

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The controls are so bad that it's better to just run around and use the magic punch

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FlitterApe sent Bottle to FlitterOoT (8-2 Specters Factory Monkey 2 - Dreos)

midnight depot
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Looks like I can get the following monkeys out of logic FlitterApe sent Bursting Fireball to RyanDS3 (8-2 Specters Factory Monkey 3 - Reznor) FlitterApe sent Black Helm to LlisandurFF4 (8-2 Specters Factory Monkey 10 - Khamo) FlitterApe sent Projectile Refill to LlisandurMQ (8-2 Specters Factory Monkey 5 - Vanilla S) FlitterApe found their 5 Energy Chips (8-2 Specters Factory Coin - Lava Room) FlitterApe sent Green Arbor x4 to FlitterCC (8-2 Specters Factory Monkey 6 - Radd) FlitterApe sent Potion Offering to LlisandurFox (8-2 Specters Factory Monkey 7 - Shimbo) FlitterApe sent Slingshot to FlitterOoT (8-2 Specters Factory Monkey 9 - String)

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That's actually all of them. I wonder why logic says no

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The TV tower

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The SECOND fakeout final level

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FlitterApe sent Gold Leaf to La DxRomulus (8-3 TV Tower Monkey 4 - Tortuss)

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FlitterApe sent Melody to FlitterPM (8-3 TV Tower Coin - Tank Room)

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FlitterApe sent BigBomb to LlisandurFF4 (8-3 TV Tower Boss)

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Bad checking

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I went into the boss room then came out

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The game presumably zeroed out the boss

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So archipelago gave me the check

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The final final boss

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Oh no he ran away!

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Who could have guessed

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That's BK mode until I have the final world key

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FlitterApe's World Key is at Act Completion (Time Rift - The Moon) in Ixhat's World at Time Rift - Curly Tail Trail. (not found)

fresh hill
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that’s in my Alpine Skyline, so waiting on at least hookshot

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iirc all my ziplines were found ages ago so likely only on hookshot

weary lagoon
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im gonna play some oot

weary lagoon
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Artiks sent Small Key Ring (Gerudo Training Ground) to FlitterOoT (Gerudo Training Ground Hammer Room Clear Chest)

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HBA wasnt awful this time

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GTG is dodongos cavern

weary lagoon
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Well is water temple, lets save and quit

weary lagoon
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my ass has never done shadow link without hammer ICANT

midnight depot
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I could do an out of bound trick and get your hammer. Do you want it early or do you want it when I can actually reach it?

weary lagoon
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ill be fine

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Artiks sent Map (Dodongos Cavern) to FlitterOoT (Water Temple Torches Chest)

midnight depot
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Thank you

weary lagoon
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Artiks sent Nightmare Key (Face Shrine) to La DxRomulus (Water Temple River Chest)

weary lagoon
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Artiks sent Relic (Red Crayon) to Ixhat (DMT Storms Grotto Chest)

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I'm now in BK mode until I get either megaton hammer or eye of truth

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@tender pelican This unlocks a dungeon for me

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Doom Castle sounds scary

tender pelican
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Final dungeon for MQ. Need multi key or sun coin to get it.

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And the dragon claw. I should hint that later.

midnight depot
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Hi

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Let's play Paper Mario

midnight depot
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Funny how it turns night when the ruins spawn

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But when you come back later it's day

midnight depot
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Everything keeps giving me gold skulltula tokens

fresh hill
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you're BK'd at 61%, I'm BK'd at 17%

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"non-local all prog items" clearly works for getting myself BK'd more often; I think combining that with only playing one slot this time may have swung the pendulum a bit too far in the other direction

midnight depot
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The trick for me is that OoT has a lot of ways to break logic

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Makes it a game of "how sick am I of not playing? Enough to learn this trick?"

weary lagoon
fresh hill
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it’s a step toward unlocking another level, yeah

midnight depot
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Ixrec: What do you need to get this check? Alpine Skyline - Bird Pass Fork

fresh hill
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probably at least hookshot

midnight depot
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Oh! You have the hookshot badge

fresh hill
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most of the game is waiting on hookshot and dweller hat, though there's a chance the right relic can open an important level

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oh

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I was not informed! ididntlisten

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maybe later

midnight depot
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Yeah I was looking through the hints and this looks like the first part of a chain

fresh hill
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iirc I had multiple things in alpine and that was in a telescope 1 entrance so at least I know where to start

midnight depot
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List of my hinted items in other worlds: FlitterApe's Super Hoop is at Dead Bird Studio - Conductor Chest in Ixhat's World at Time Rift - Pipe. (not found) FlitterApe's World Key is at Act Completion (Time Rift - The Moon) in Ixhat's World at Time Rift - Curly Tail Trail. (not found) FlitterCC's Cold is at Vagabond Dojo Key in FlitterCC's World. (not found) FlitterCC's Radiant Key is at HWL: Club - flame plaza in RyanDS3's World. (not found) FlitterCC's Shock is at FS: Karla's Gloves - Prisoner Chief's Ashes in RyanDS3's World. (not found) FlitterCC's Wave is at Bottom of the Well Center Skulltula Chest in Artiks's World at DMC Fire Temple Entrance -> Fire Temple Lower. (not found) FlitterCC's White Key is at Dwarf Castle -- East tower 3F -- left in LlisandurFF4's World. (not found) FlitterOoT's Dins Fire is at Overworld - [Southwest] Fountain Page in LlisandurFox's World. (not found) FlitterOoT's Hover Boots is at Tasksanity Check 13 in Ixhat's World at Time Rift - The Lab. (not found) FlitterOoT's Megaton Hammer is at Ganons Castle Shadow Trial Golden Gauntlets Chest in Artiks's World. (not found) FlitterOoT's Mirror Shield is at Global Shop Slot: Steel Goggles in FlitterCC's World. (not found) FlitterOoT's Sarias Song is at Coins in the Well - 15 Coins in LlisandurFox's World. (not found) FlitterOoT's Song of Storms is at Alpine Skyline - Bird Pass Fork in Ixhat's World at Down with the Mafia!. (not found) FlitterOoT's Weird Egg is at Sky Fortress Provides (3F) - Greed 4 in LlisandurFF1's World. (not found) FlitterPM's Progressive Hammer is at Forest Temple Map Chest in Artiks's World at Desert Colossus -> Spirit Temple Lobby. (not found)

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List of other world hinted items in my worlds: La DxRomulus's Broom is at Global Shop Slot: Steel Boots in FlitterCC's World. (not found) La DxRomulus's Stick is at Maroon: Cursed Temple Treasure Room in FlitterCC's World at Gold. (not found) LlisandurFF4's Magma Key is at Song from Royal Familys Tomb in FlitterOoT's World at Zoras Domain -> ZD Storms Grotto. (in logic) LlisandurFox's Ladder to East Forest is at Bull on Fire - Reward 3 in FlitterCC's World. (not found) LlisandurMQ's Multi Key is at 9-1 Monkey Madness Coin - Coaster (Room 1) in FlitterApe's World. (not found) Artiks's Megaton Hammer is at 9-1 Monkey Madness Monkey 21 - Bungee in FlitterApe's World. (not found)

weary lagoon
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so my forest is in the desert

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I could go there but id like to follow logic and wait for eye of truth..

midnight depot
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Seems fair

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Oh uh

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Important thing to note with dungeon rando

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If you can reach your spirit temple and exit through the hands, this means the desert colossus area is in logic

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Even if you don't have lens of truth or the warp song

weary lagoon
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Flitter, my friend! I am no beginner!

midnight depot
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Just gotta keep it in mind

weary lagoon
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The spirit temple is probably in Kakariko graveyard

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yeah thats the last dungeon

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Hammer would also unlock a lot of stuff

midnight depot
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Hammer needs this check: FlitterApe's World Key is at Act Completion (Time Rift - The Moon) in Ixhat's World at Time Rift - Curly Tail Trail. (not found)

weary lagoon
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You got this Ixhat

fresh hill
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I forget if that's one of the relic TR entrances but it's in alpine either way

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just checked my hints, nearly everything that isn't blocked on dweller hat is connected to alpine so that's definitely the target for next session

fresh hill
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ok let's do this

midnight depot
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Good luck

fresh hill
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huh, tracker says the telescope 1 level is still uncompleteable

midnight depot
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I will fight the tracker

fresh hill
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oh I can finally assemble a relic set

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for the telescope under The Lab rdwut

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the game even has a special message for this corner case

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anyway tracker says the only beatable non-DW level is in telescope 2 so let's start there

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at least there's stuff here

midnight depot
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Thanks! I need like forty more

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My favorite corner case in A Hat in Time is if you tell the birds in the train your password is penis

fresh hill
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of course you tried this rdsnrk

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worst check in the game out of the way

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neat, I can carry the drinks on top of the injured seal

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oh my god I finished a level

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this time rift is awkward without dweller hat but logic says I can do it and I think it's right

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logic was right

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omg a mafia town level

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we're gonna be here a while

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I was there so long the game crashed

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as long as I'm restarting, let's finally check why telescope 1 is apparently not completeable

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oh, right, it was Time Rift - Deep Sea

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hookshot gets me farther in that but I think it also requires Dweller Hat to finish

midnight depot
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Ah unfortunate

fresh hill
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ok I'm pretty sure almost all of these hints are still unreachable

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the Collect-a-thon death wish might be, I'm less familiar with how tracking works for DW stuff

fresh hill
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Ixhat sent Silent Running Mode to dr rOWmulus (Collect-a-thon - Main Objective)

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yeah, pretty sure all the other hints are on Dweller Hat

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I'm gonna go back to sweeping Mafia Town and then maaaaaybe a few more DWs, seems like much of the DW board is open now

midnight depot
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Thank you for scale

fresh hill
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Ixhat sent Progressive Scale to FlitterOoT (Mafia Town - Ledge Chest)

midnight depot
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Thank you for chakram

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Maybe with enough damage I can just finish the element locked quests in crosscode early

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Right now bull on fire basically requires cold, otherwise you deal next to no damage

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But it's like level 20. I could get a much higher level

fresh hill
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TIL parade traps can follow you into Barrel Battle

midnight depot
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Can they hurt enemies or just you?

fresh hill
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just me

midnight depot
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Celeste needs a Badeline trap

fresh hill
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although one of the mafia said I'M SO CONFUSED, I think that's a coincidence

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barely managed it

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WAIT A MINUTE

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that's in Owl Express, I HAVE partial ALPINE SKYLINE ACCESS

midnight depot
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Oh nice

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This UI looks broken

fresh hill
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yeah it's not expecting a regular level to be on a time rift

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but does this give me access to anything hinted...

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I can't get any of the Alpine time pieces from Illness so I won't get the blue time rift, and we know I have no more relics to cash in, so the Time Rift - Curly Tail Trail entrance to where your World Key is won't happen yet

midnight depot
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Aw

fresh hill
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or Time Rift - The Twilight Bell for Llisander's Cube

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or Lava Cake for Lli's Hook

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your Song of Storms is in logic!

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pretty sure nothing else is but I can get that so let's do it

midnight depot
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Thanks

fresh hill
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this is a name pets give to their pets, right?

midnight depot
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You should take it to the X-Men

fresh hill
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highly appropriate location

midnight depot
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Excellent. I'll be able to play in roughly twenty hours

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This should give me acess to Llisandur's magma key, which in turn gives Llisandur your dweller mask

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Hat?

fresh hill
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oh, right, the item name is Dweller Mask

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it's categorized as a hat

midnight depot
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And dweller mask should give you access to my hoverboots and Llisandur's Hook

fresh hill
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might give me everything hinted so far

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I'm thinking I'll stop after I get all the checks in Illness

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Ixhat sent Small Key (Tail Cave) to La DxRomulus (Alpine Skyline - Yellow Band Hills)
Ixhat sent Bottle to LlisandurFF1 (Alpine Skyline - Goat Outpost Horn)

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those are also important I think

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Ixhat sent Progressive Area Unlock to FlitterCC (Alpine Skyline - Windy Passage)

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lots of goodies here

midnight depot
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Oh I can use that to get cold to do a ton of stuff

fresh hill
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Ember Summit check was disappointing

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<insert pun>

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and we're done

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33%

midnight depot
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Hi

wet field
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Hi

midnight depot
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Let's play Crosscode. I have my area unlock. This should allow me access to the second to final area with all the checks

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Guess I need one more

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While I'm in Crosscode I'll just try to do the harder stuff that doesn't technically require new elements

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Okay