#Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer

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lament tusk
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indeed, i can do a lot with c left actually, every great fairy fountain for one

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called it

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before/after
nice

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cant do the instant time warp without the full ocarian but this is fine

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room key player 4

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yay has my gannon boss key in spirit temple but i think they already got that

lament tusk
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water temple is deku tree? can i even do this as adult? i can definitly do some checks i suppose

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mm daqy 3 clock for me, neat

weary lagoon
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at some point you can time travel in there

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but yeah you can do most checks

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just have to soft reset in the slingshot room

lament tusk
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or not use the falling platform, which i just did

fiery mason
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If you find my c left and ocarina of time or goron mask those are huuuuuuge

lament tusk
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ghoma had a dekustick got arti lol

weary lagoon
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yeeesssss

lament tusk
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oooh my guilded sword

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im going to ahve every mm item before mm song of time at this point

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mm bombs for lootman

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oh. the most useful song in the game. woo.

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fire temple is spirit temple
which would be great if i had silver gauntlets

weary lagoon
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you can do the epic child part

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if you have hammer or bolero

lament tusk
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no, because i dont have bolero of fire or the ability to time travel anywhere yet

weary lagoon
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or hammer

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hammer doesnt do it I had it wrong in my head...

lament tusk
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arti cojiro
weirdly close to the actual check, i got it from anju

fiery mason
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i already had bombs its a size increase

lament tusk
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well still useful

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actually mm bombs arent that useful once yo have bmb mask outside of glitches

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thanks for the boss key lootman

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zora tunic for lootman

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my ice cavern is woodfall temple
it did have yay's oot lens of truth floating conveniently ahead of me tho, so thats neat

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hmm
adukt didnt actually give me that many good items

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not so far atleast

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oh well, im bk mode now

fiery mason
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if i can clip past mido later ill have a bunch of things to do

lament tusk
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i could probably try that clip too but eh

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ill try tomorrow if i havent unlocked anything

weary lagoon
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my current entrances

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realised the ikana canyon has 6 entrances lol

lament tusk
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oof

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ikana is not gonna be very fun for this run, is it

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im a fucking idiot
i already had the warp to forest temple

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that just gave me my MM song of time too

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just a few checks unlocked
one or two

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forest temple leads to shadow

fiery mason
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did someone find out if my deku shield is in their shop

lament tusk
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uh

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not mine

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oh i need keys for shadow ppenk

fiery mason
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its so funny to be sent the fire boss key

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im in the fire temple as a child after glitching to the bottom of the well

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and i cant progress for more than 20 seconds

lament tusk
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clearly you gotta fight volvagia as a kid

fiery mason
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so as long as i can do this boss in 10 sec ill be fine

weary lagoon
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just bring fairies

lament tusk
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totally doable

fiery mason
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i can tp back in with farores wind right...

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so i can come back with faries

weary lagoon
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dont know

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volvagia is unkillable without hammer

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BUT now that you have entered as child, well should be open as adult

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unless it doesnt count when you glitch down there

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might need the proper song of storm playage

fiery mason
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nah theres still water

weary lagoon
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theres never water as adult though

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give it a shot

fiery mason
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hmmmmmmm yeah

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just a wall

lament tusk
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bombers code: 42153

fiery mason
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yeah its closed

weary lagoon
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damn

lament tusk
sage dawn
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I had a few checks today, but I'm pretty hard stuck until I can get c-up

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I have so many songs and no way to play most of them lol

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Also still no MM sword lol

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Oh I can do chest minigame

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Forgot about that

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It was Lootman's OoT ice arrows

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Blue fire arrows are on so they might actually be useful in niche situations?

lament tusk
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They are, yeah
It's one check at least

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Oh damn I forgot I could get blue fire from ganons castle

weary lagoon
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good day

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got a lot of items but somehow no skulltulas 😵‍💫

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36/40

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tho the only song c-left will allow me to play without c-up is song of healing so its not that big of a deal

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magic beans for mega 🔥

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garos mask for mega

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I havent!

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thats all I can do for now

lament tusk
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I have yet to find that

sage dawn
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I got all OoT swords before my first MM sword

fiery mason
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im certain i cant progress ive tried getting past the zora king as a child and getting into the domain as an adult and theyre both too hard

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hover boots as an adult into the domain didnt look that bad if i had them

sage dawn
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If you have bombchus I can link a setup that doesn't use c-up

midnight depot
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Oh yeah that one is a bit tricky after the clip but if you know what to look for it's not hard

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I recommend making a savestate just before the explosion

sage dawn
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Yeah the only part that might seem weird if you're not used to it is that you need to release z-target before pressing shield during the backflip

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And pressing up near the end will stop you from going super far away

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You might be able to hold up for the entire backflip but I'm not sure

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Oh and if you're not used to doing angle setups, the roll after the sidehop is a neutral roll, and you retarget during it to maintain the angle change.

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If you don't release target during it you'll revert your angle at the end of the roll

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Both forward rolls from the corner are neutral rolls as well

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They go forward if they're not following a sidehop or backflip

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Neutral rolls are weird

weary lagoon
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thanks for a piece of heart

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no new checks!

lament tusk
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romani ranch was great and also sucked, the first arrow shooting gallery thing gave me requiem of spirit, which is awesome, but the aliens and cart ride gave me lootman skull tokens :(

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that was a lot of wasted effort

weary lagoon
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but you saved the two girls ☺️

lament tusk
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they're not important if they dont give jme anything

lament tusk
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im back from therapy and got eponas song (oot) from the old goron dude, nice

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song of healing
yey

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stone tower keys for arti

weary lagoon
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oh god

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have you guys seen that show frieren where she walks for one million years

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thats me having to walk to jabu jabu and go through ikana castle to get to ikana to get to the well to get to stone tower

lament tusk
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lol

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sux 2 b u

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bottle of red potion mm for yay

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yay slingshot

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as in, fairy slingshot for yay, not "yay i have a slingshot"

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oh i was hoping the bottle of red potion i sent to art was for me, darn

lament tusk
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gold dust lootman

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good checks ahve been far between

lament tusk
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zeldas letter lootman
does that actually do anything other than make it sligtly more convenient to get to death mountain as kid?

weary lagoon
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Nope

lament tusk
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i've got a few MM checks left but they're annoiyng and i have the entier gerudo section and spirit temple unlocked so im gonna go do that

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garo mask arti

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oh boy, ok
my GTG is stone tower regular way up

weary lagoon
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i suppose my garo mask doesnt do anything since Im entering from the castle

lament tusk
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oh my spirit is water temple, i can actually do that

weary lagoon
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what do you have, iron boots and longshot?

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and keys? would be big

lament tusk
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no longshot, but boots, tunic and keys

weary lagoon
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How about hover boots those can replace most long shot checks

lament tusk
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i dont have any strength so i cnt pulll the single block there but thats still a lotta checks

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i have hover too

weary lagoon
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Nice

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the hover to boss key is apparently in logic

lament tusk
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oh

weary lagoon
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like in the room at the bottom you have to equip hovers and run backwards and then do a timed backwards summersault over the spikes

lament tusk
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i did it! thanks

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that was hard to do, but a fun trick

weary lagoon
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oh in the next room

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hovers lets you skip A LOT of annoying shit

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guess you can do it without too but thats hard rdsnrk

lament tusk
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got any tricks about skipping the pushblock in the room after?

weary lagoon
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dont you just skip that room with this video

lament tusk
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oh huh, i thought there was a check there

weary lagoon
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nah this skip takes you to the skull and boss key checks

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very nice stuff

lament tusk
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god why would i want some kind of stupid button?

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honestly

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i've done like 50 checks today and i think thats the only one that unlocks anything

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...wait no i literally got 2 songs

weary lagoon
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wow!!!!

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@sage dawn have you gotten my shop skulltulas I really need the last 4

lament tusk
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i did find a few skulls but i forgot if its yours or not

sage dawn
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I've gotten a few but I'll look through them all again

lament tusk
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scale for arti

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not sure if sliver or gold

weary lagoon
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gold

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i dont have iron boots so its 2 items

lament tusk
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2?

weary lagoon
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lab dive and hyrule field cave dive

lament tusk
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ones the dive, whats the other

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oooh

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of course you can do that, didnt think of doing that

sage dawn
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Also gets you some stuff in water temple

weary lagoon
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ill keep that in mind if i find it

lament tusk
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yay forest keyring

sage dawn
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Okay, I guess I already bought all your shop skulls

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Forest keyring gets me a decent number of checks though

weary lagoon
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i think all of them are my skulltulas actually.

sage dawn
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I wish

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Many of them are mine

lament tusk
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yay was switching to adult as i was switching to kid lol

sage dawn
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Lol I saw you doing the little hop down animation

lament tusk
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the fire thing is cute

sage dawn
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Also I went right back to adult because I realized I'd rather learn the clip into bottom of the well than go through all the hassle of clearing ikana well again to get back to ikana while adult link

weary lagoon
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37 skulls..

lament tusk
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oof

weary lagoon
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Mega wasnt one of your skull rewards a skull for me ppenk

lament tusk
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my 50 was a skull for me

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im at 40 tho

weary lagoon
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Oh the up button gave me song of storms

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thats soooo much stuff

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eh well, Ive already been to botw with time travel so not that much

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i can get the kakariko suns song check

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38!

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lol we're all here

lament tusk
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yeah but i've been playing for a few hours and gonna take a break

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i've done a lot tho

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didnt get that many actually useful tems tho

weary lagoon
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bottle for mega oot

lament tusk
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thanks

weary lagoon
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and slingshot (ammo?)

lament tusk
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largest bullet bag actually

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really taking break now

weary lagoon
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lets try ocarina game without c left

lament tusk
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i still got quite a few checks but ill do them later

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hey i did the game without left or right

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you will be fine

weary lagoon
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39!!!

sage dawn
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I FINALLY GOT THE CLIP

weary lagoon
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bottom of the well?

sage dawn
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Yeah

weary lagoon
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the red potion mega sent me came in clutch

sage dawn
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Woo!!!

weary lagoon
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Now I have EVERY button

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though a lot of my western map is junk

sage dawn
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I can start ignoring skulls now right?

weary lagoon
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yes

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song of soaring.. game is playable now

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when I have both zora cape is foolish AND great bay coast, doesnt that mean that whole section of the map is useless?

sage dawn
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Pretty much lol

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Except for possibly beavers, zora hall, and pirate's fortress

weary lagoon
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okay so beavers are not counted

sage dawn
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Oh ocean skull house is probably seperate too

weary lagoon
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can just warp here now instead of going through 9 dungeons

sage dawn
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I'm so jealous

weary lagoon
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ocean spider is junk but will need to check the heart piece

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wait its yellow what am I missing for it

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skeleton mask i guess

sage dawn
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You can just trial and error the code tbh

weary lagoon
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ye thats what I usually do

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Pirates fortress - Spirit Temple

sage dawn
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Alright that's forest temple done and I think I'm back in BK mode

weary lagoon
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gonna find your ocarina of time in my zora shop so you can do cool time travel stuff

sage dawn
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Oh shit I'd love that

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Lets me get across the bridge without learning the hookshot extension setup

weary lagoon
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ye I felt so smart when i did that a few days ago

sage dawn
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I would not have thought of it if you hadn't done it lol

weary lagoon
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nothing good in the shop except for odd potion for mega and red potion for lootman in MM

sage dawn
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rip

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Should probably see if he needs that potion

weary lagoon
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time for the really annoying great wind fish check

lament tusk
weary lagoon
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the great bay temple is the great bay temple

lament tusk
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Wow

sage dawn
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That's great (bay)

weary lagoon
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I can do everything here except for the boss

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which is really ass because if I clear the whole dungeon and dont get the boss key I have to redo almost everything later

sage dawn
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I just realized that the reason my tracker didn't have keysanity options is because I didn't load the keysanity version of the tracker ._.

weary lagoon
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oops

sage dawn
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Oh well it's not like a tracker makes that much of a difference when using keyrings

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Oh also I think the scrub in ikana canyon isn't randomized, and will always sell you a blue potion for 100 rupees if anyone has access to there but no red/blue potion for checks

weary lagoon
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thats correct

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my great bay fairies are junk

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yay did you check your snowhead fairy

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cause my stone tower fairies give you one snowhead fairy

sage dawn
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I think it was a fairy for someone else

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Player two woodfall fairy

fiery mason
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anything good for me because ive gone as far as i could

ocean onyx
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Hi. My phone is dead and I am in Japan. This is a borrowed phone

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I have literally nothing to do because I can't safely leave my hotel room without GPS

weary lagoon
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Hey Pink Flitter

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sorry to hear about your phone

ocean onyx
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It died very suddenly.

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I am completely cut off from the world

weary lagoon
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phone expiring when in another country thats rough

weary lagoon
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MM sword for Mega

lament tusk
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What? I have guilded already

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Great fairy sword?

weary lagoon
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ye

lament tusk
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Neat

weary lagoon
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i tried to do the skeleton captain but I failed because my best dps is fairy sword

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he had a piece of heart for yay

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alright lets rip the great bay band aid

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@fiery mason shadow temple boss key does that help

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red potion MM for yay

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barrel in great bay not sure if thats renewable

weary lagoon
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MM Hookshot for mega

lament tusk
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oh shit

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thats great bay i think

weary lagoon
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that was the only good item in great bay

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now that ive cleared it out I hope I dont have to reset before I get the boss key..

lament tusk
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oot light arrows arti

weary lagoon
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thank you

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shadow temple keys for yay

lament tusk
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how do i get the spirit song from sheik? she didnt trigger as kid or adult

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oh nvm she just did

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weird

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sonata of awakening tho

weary lagoon
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why am I fighting igos du ikana with no mirror shield..

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alright thats not a thing so I guess im done for now

lament tusk
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the checks i have left are annoying, like the shooting galleries, so im putting them off

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oh i forgot to do some of great bay but im lazy

wet field
idle hatch
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It is fucking awful

weary lagoon
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Just gotta heal Kamaro then im in bk

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If someone can find my ocean title deed theres a goron mask over there ppenk

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1000 rupees in the bank was megaton hammer so im not stuck anymore.

lament tusk
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oh niiice

weary lagoon
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Lol I got poachers saw from the skulltula right next to him

lament tusk
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lol

weary lagoon
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ok im in BK now

sage dawn
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I'm still stuck :c

weary lagoon
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ive told Lootman about going through beneath the well to find a new area on the other side so we'll see what he finds

sage dawn
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That might open up a lot yeah

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And if he doesn't have ocarina of time, it could also be a way to get adult to mm dungeon entrances

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Depends on where it lets out

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There's also jumping off the roof of ikana castle if he's found that entrance

weary lagoon
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I did that it was epic

sage dawn
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Hell yeah

weary lagoon
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but no hes got these

sage dawn
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I see I see

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Oh shit it's back side of well?

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That makes getting to the other side way faster

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And not require gibdo mask

weary lagoon
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im looking a little like this

sage dawn
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I've been noting my exits in the tracker so I don't have an easy way to show you

weary lagoon
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wait im not stuck I can open woodfall......

sage dawn
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LOL

weary lagoon
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Update

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i dont think a lot is happening in here

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no iron boots, no keys, no boss key to go morpha immediatelly

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Lootman trolled me he actually had beneath the well entrance and no mask

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and I cant do a single thing in water temple so we're waiting for Mega

fiery mason
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yes ive been everywhere i can possibly go with easy enough glitches

lament tusk
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Fuck, the stuff I got left is just inconvenient to do

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Shooting gallery's for example

sage dawn
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Do itttt

weary lagoon
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Just save state scum if you dont wanma do them properly

fierce vale
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everybunny knows you just hit savestate between each round

lament tusk
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I was gonna, duh
Doesn't mean I enjoy doing it

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Also my controller has a weird bug or loose connection or something, it likes to randomly move the left controller stick up slightly, fuckz with everything from aiming to menu navigation
Only on this emulator

weary lagoon
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my switch pro controller was a big fan of doing that when I used it with my PC

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feel blessed to finally get an xbox controller

lament tusk
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so i have an xbox contoller...
its a very old one tho, from the 360 days

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im waking up now, getting food, ill start playing soon

lament tusk
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oh my goooood i hate controller aiming

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i cant respond fast enough to 100% the town shooting gallery, or i cant move accurately enough
theres no middle ground, too slow or too inaccurate

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why is there no mouse aiming in emulators...

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of course i fucking ace it immidiatly after i post that message
this better be an important check

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a skull token for player 2 and a recovery heart.

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oh, and a gamecrash

weary lagoon
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are you connected to the lua

lament tusk
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i was not, the client wasnt up

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i am now and the game is running fine again

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im going to do swamp shooting and if they're also skull tokens or something equally shit, im giving up for the day, because fuck that

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actually you know wht? im gonna check the spoiler log

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...i didnt download the log?

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whelp

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i hate the swamp shooting gallery

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i really hate the swamp shooting gallery

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next time please make it junk

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oh and before you say "just use save states" the swamp shooting gallery isnt in waves, shit's happening constantly, you do one wave of scrubs, birds spawn, whle theres a fresh wave of scrubs, and the wolves come, and there are two hidden scrubs you gotta find time to shoot

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the town one sucks but i can savestate it

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im doing one more and then im quitting because this hurts

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nah fuck it

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im done

weary lagoon
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i see i see

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well ill save you the headache and say you dont have to do swamp archery

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anything else you have available? Cause the rest of us are seemingly stuck

sage dawn
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I don't really have any issues with the shooting galleries, but I've also been doing OoT and MM rando for a while now

weary lagoon
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ive been thinking I can maybe get the fire at the sun check with time travel but it might despawn during the loads

sage dawn
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You can at least see if it's good or not

weary lagoon
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Thats true I can

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We might all have to look over the dungeons we have available and think "is there something I can do there now?" because the tracker cant account for entrance randomizer

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its an ocarina of time boss key

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can I shoot the sun from the island

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im gonna check out the eels in MM even though its supposed to be junk and out of logic ppenk

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razor sword for me, lol

weary lagoon
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well i cant find anything

lament tusk
weary lagoon
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i looked in the spoiler log and it was junk.

lament tusk
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thanks

lament tusk
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man great bay sucks

weary lagoon
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TRUE

lament tusk
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oh i need fire arrows to progress anyway

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im pretty sure hints told me it was foolish

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a scale for yay

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can i get across the sand ravine in the desert with the short hookshot? if not, i need to do reverse desert

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i also have the curiosity shop backroom, kafe's stuff
i dont remember how that questline works

weary lagoon
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longshot or hover boots

lament tusk
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oooh i can hover

weary lagoon
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"im pretty sure hints told me it was foolish" i wouldnt trust that unless you wrote it down 😛

lament tusk
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i got everything i think i can get anyway

weary lagoon
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fair enough, fire arrows is only the big key chest

lament tusk
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gah

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it took me too long to do the archery minigame (i dont have a bomb bag and cant do all 3 days) but it was just a peice of heart

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whatever

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ill do more tomorrow

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its all bloody annoying and inconvenient checks now

sage dawn
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Silver scale gets me one check and puts Zora Domain in logic as child, but I already did all that stuff

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The one check is rutos letter

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It was a deku shield

weary lagoon
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Lootman was able to get me the odd mushroom cant wait to see what it gets us

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Snowhead keyring for player 2!

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thats all I can do

lament tusk
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fire temple leads to spirit
spirit temple leads to water temple
water leads to deku tree
deku tree leads to bottom of well
bottom of well leads to ikana well (closed door entrance)
dodongo leads to gannon's tower
jabu goes to great bay
ice cavern leads to woodfall
forest leads to shadow temple

i cant get anywhere else at present
any advice where to go that im not seeing?

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oh i had a few inaccuracies on the item list, i dont have shadow temple keys

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i also dont have night 3, but do have all the other clocks

lament tusk
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agh
haunted wasteland checks sucked, the deku groto in GC that i'd forgotten about sucked

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im hinestly not sure what else i can do

midnight depot
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Hi I'm back

lament tusk
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fix your phone or get a new one then?

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i've played this game a lot and never noticed these red rupees at the laundry pool
no idea how to collect them tho

midnight depot
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Pixel 8a

lament tusk
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huh, i guess you just wait

weary lagoon
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you have that bring rock to hungry goron check green but maybe thats a fake green

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I told Lootman he can go and get Epona on day 3 without needing powder keg or the ocarina buttons so he has the whole zora area to do.

lament tusk
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fake gree, i cant get any fire in goron town

weary lagoon
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We dont know how far you are in every dungeon. So what I do is just read my list and think "whats stopping me from progressing here?" and if I have the answer then I go to the next dungeon on the list

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and if you cant progress anywhere we're just waiting for lootman

lament tusk
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this useful?

weary lagoon
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yeah its one check

lament tusk
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i forgot i hadnt done the 1k rupee check

weary lagoon
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when he gets there

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like this

lament tusk
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aaah good idea

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actually what song checks are around?

weary lagoon
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#1119170161518334004 message

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zora eggs are turned off.

lament tusk
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song of time
ice cavern
preleude check
nocturne check
mm song of time
soaring check
awakening check
elegy check
oath check
storms check

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to get song of time oot i'd need to find shadow (i have location) jabu (no idea) snowhead (no idea)

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i guess im just rechecking every dungeon again?

weary lagoon
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i dunno what you have done in woodfall but with hookshot you can actually full clear the dungeon without deku mask

lament tusk
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i havent done anything in it yet, thought i needed deku

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ok ill give it a go right now, i have boss key

weary lagoon
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thats all you need for everything

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hook skips both deku mask and key

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and you need bow of course

lament tusk
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well i have boss key

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whoops

midnight depot
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We need a game with only OoT dungeons and only MM overworld

weary lagoon
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yeah it skips small key not boss key

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Nah every MM dungeon is good except Great Bay

lament tusk
#

not gonna lie this tracker not tracking dungeon entrances is a pain in the ass, makes it very hard to track what i can do in each dungeon

midnight depot
#

What if we just excluded every check in the MM dungeons and OoT overworld except for the really big ones?

weary lagoon
#

-2

midnight depot
#

The only MM dungeon I like is the stone tower temple and only barely

lament tusk
#

i find them all confising tbh

weary lagoon
#

there is no better tracker unfortunately.

midnight depot
#

I don't find them confusing, I find them uh

#

Trivial, I guess.

#

The designs for a lot of them are too nonlinear for the randomizer to consistently make them fun like in OoT

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In OoT the dungeons are linear which works really well with the randomizer

weary lagoon
#

In Woodfall you're gonna meet some turtle guys and you're gonna think "I cant kill these without deku" but you can kill them with blast mask.

midnight depot
#

In Woodfall I can access every room with just one item and one key and one boss key

weary lagoon
#

Okay in Dodongo I can access every room with bombs

midnight depot
#

You also need slingshot

weary lagoon
#

No cause I entered as adult and I do the jump skip

midnight depot
#

In that case you need song of time

weary lagoon
#

I need song of time for woodfall too

midnight depot
#

Yeah that's true

lament tusk
#

oh my mm bombs
they were in a chest right at the start of woodfall

weary lagoon
#

doesnt do you much good when you already had blast mask i think

#

great bay has that one fucker check

#

thats like "oh btw you need fire arrows here"

#

same in the stone tower

lament tusk
#

its expecting me to know how to bomb hover i think
i dont know how to bomb hover

#

but i can too the honey and darling game now

weary lagoon
#

its not a bomb hover its just a goron bomb jump its actually very easy

#

but its not in logic so you dont have to worry about it unless you want to

lament tusk
#

well if woodfall gives me bunk then ill try it i suppose, but that will take a bit

weary lagoon
#

this is a great tutorial because its 13 years old and he fails it twice

lament tusk
midnight depot
#

Not even classified as a glitch

#

I did this for the spider house to skip using hookshot

weary lagoon
#

dont you need hookshot inside spider house

#

to pick up tokens

midnight depot
#

Yeah but I only needed the other checks

lament tusk
#

this usefull?

#

still need to glitch to be able to use it, but still neato

#

how many more of these did you need arti?

#

oath was storms mm
really?

#

well woodfall is down

#

bopmb bag gives me a lot tho, one in order check full ikana and great bay outside of it

lament tusk
#

gret bay owl statue get

weary lagoon
lament tusk
#

great bay fairies is my woodfall fairy
yey...

lament tusk
#

whoever decided the rings you gotta swim though for the beavers were tiny and also solid so you can crash into them deserves to be fired
i know this game is like 25 years old now but still

midnight depot
#

Normally I'd say the mini games are fine but that one is particularly unfun

lament tusk
#

i did the first one, i forgot how to get the second one?

#

do i just wait a day?

#

looks like yes

#

im not sure why you'd want to dress kid link like a zora in oot
pity thats not an MM mask tho, that would be an actually useful check

midnight depot
#

...

#

It is

lament tusk
#

no idea what you mean

midnight depot
#

(MM)

lament tusk
#

its just telling me that its mmm delicious

#

i got it from feeding the fish in the laboratory

#

thats a good check so im gonna take a break for now, ill try to do some ikana in a bit

sage dawn
#

I had a dream I found ocarina of time.

weary lagoon
#

Lootman will make your dreams come true today

midnight depot
#

I had a dream that I found the ocarina of lime but then I took it to the shop to get it inspected and it turned out to be a lemon

lament tusk
#

the lemon of time!

weary lagoon
#

Its time to break into the water temple with force

#

I will no longer leave my fate in the hands of others

#

I will carve my own path

#

alright im in

#

now it is snowhead and I have no goron mask..

weary lagoon
#

did 2/3rds of the checks and all I got was keaton mask for p2 FeelsWoahMan

#

LAST POSSIBLE CHECK DINS FOR ME

#

that unlocks uh nothing

#

WAIT

#

Goron pot

#

heart container wop wop

sage dawn
#

I'm at my parents and can't play until tomorrow night

weary lagoon
#

Thanks for a recovery heart!

#

no new checks

#

no worries yay899

lament tusk
#

is this even a check?

#

i forget

#

oh i can do pirate fortress i think

#

i have stonemask too

#

.pirate fortress is a dungeon entrance, of course it is
this would be great news, but...
(no i dont have light arrows)

#

i need to get to ikana

#

ok i glitched over the fence! only took 6 bombs, not too bad actually

#

about 3 i wasted because bombchus blew them up too

#

ok owl statue get, thank god

#

ikana well entrance is upside down stown tower
can i please get a temple i know how to do?

#

awww yeah, the ikana waterfall miniboss thing leads to gtg

#

is this bottom of the well or ikana well?

#

oh bottom of well

#

huh

#

well i can complete that now, thats a few more checks

lament tusk
#

yo @sage dawn big news for you

weary lagoon
#

hoooolyy

lament tusk
#

do i need to do the ikana graveyard digging thing all three nights in one run, or can i do them whenever?

#

kafei mask lootman

#

uuuh
i just saw a pink flame, and i could press a on it and it... warped me back to where i was?

#

oh! the poison swamp is gone!

#

i can just do that? nice!

#

also inconvenient, as i hadnt gotten the pictobox check yet

#

so now i need to rescue koume again
oh well

#

this is just annoying

#

nothing to hookshot there

#

romani mask yay

#

any advice crossing that gap without dekumask? the tracker marks it yellow

fierce vale
lament tusk
#

first thing i tried

fierce vale
#

big fair, i swore there was something hookshottable there

lament tusk
#

so did i!

#

arows didnt tigger the statue either btw

weary lagoon
lament tusk
#

thank

weary lagoon
lament tusk
#

i need fire arrows for a song check tho

#

thank god, tho it was a suprise

weary lagoon
lament tusk
#

oh well

#

thanks anyway

#

double defence oot, neat

#

letter to kafei lootman
oh man you're gona hve to do the kafei quest, arent you

#

im definitly BK mode now tho

#

well i can definitly do much of stone tower, but also, no

#

taking a break tho

fiery mason
#

got my deku mask

#

its all in my great bay

lament tusk
#

oh my god
strength upgrade, thats huge
i dont have one of those

#

why didnt i receive it?

#

im connected, script is running, game is running

#

i ran the lua again i guess

#

hhm, actually all i could do with goron is a water temple check i think

#

i dont have forest unlocked

lament tusk
#

woodfall boss key arti

#

whats "central bow target" in water temple? i dot remember what that means

weary lagoon
#

hm when you have the water on middle height theres an eye you can shoot

#

probably that one

lament tusk
#

that unlocks the dor you gotta hookshot past? it needs the longshot

#

i dont have that

weary lagoon
#

you can shoot and hover over quickly.

fiery mason
#

hurray

lament tusk
lament tusk
#

im done with the rando for today but ill play more tomorrow, thats HUGE

fiery mason
lament tusk
#

oh sheeet

#

i got a lot to do again suddenly

weary lagoon
#

He just made it to Ikana with hookshot, light arrows and elegy of emptiness

#

so he has 5 dungeons to do 🤣

fiery mason
#

i cant play the song

weary lagoon
#

SAVED

#

only 3 dungeons

lament tusk
#

lol

#

thats awesome tho, good luck

midnight depot
#

Today I learned you can hookshot the two witches in Twinrova to stop them in place

weary lagoon
#

😯

weary lagoon
#

Gorn elder 😆

sage dawn
#

I wish this tracker did the check boxes per map rather than where they sort of are

#

Would make marking WoT on it way easier

#

Honestly maybe next time I use a list tracker

weary lagoon
#

ye up to you, you have played enough to know where everything is

sage dawn
#

Lol, ocean title deed was in the toilet

weary lagoon
#

for who

#

My ocean title deed gets someone a goron mask I saw it on the cliff

#

It could be an oot goron mask...

sage dawn
#

It was either 1 or 3, I kinda didn't pay attention

weary lagoon
#

its a pretty funny image

sage dawn
#

He staring

#

Pleadingly

weary lagoon
#

can you warp now that mega found your button

sage dawn
#

YEP

#

That's what let me clear gerudo training grounds

weary lagoon
#

insane

sage dawn
#

I can also access all the MM dungeons now

#

Except clock tower

sage dawn
#

Yeah I already had almost all my MM songs lol

weary lagoon
#

I also have so many MM songs and so few in oot

#

I really need to beat snowhead, forest medallion is 2 songs for me now

sage dawn
#

I voided out almost at the statue in stone tower >:c

#

I swear next time I'm learning index warp so I never have to climb stone tower again

weary lagoon
#

One time I was almost at the top but then I got lazered off by Eyegore

sage dawn
#

I got got by a keese

#

On the second to last hookshot target

midnight depot
#

Doesn't index warping require you to have visited the area before, AND to not have used any owl statues?

#

Seems like it wastes more time than it saves in rando

sage dawn
#

No, you have to visit goron village, and have hit the secret owl statue in west clocktown

weary lagoon
#

oh is that what they did at gdq where they can warp anywhere

sage dawn
#

Haven't seen the gdq run but probably

#

Did they place the map cursor in specific spots before playing song of soaring?

midnight depot
#

Oh yeah there's a table

weary lagoon
#

I think so but it was in january

sage dawn
#

You ever think about how the sage of light gave Link an ear piercing and ear ring while he was sleeping?

midnight depot
#

No because I did not watch a single OoT cutscene other than the intro and ending

sage dawn
#

I mean you can see link's piercing outside of cutscenes

midnight depot
#

Yeah but I have no idea how it came to be

sage dawn
#

Oh it's never established

#

He just has it as an adult

midnight depot
#

Right, but I don't even know who the sage of light even is

weary lagoon
#

It might have been Ganondorf who came in right after Link

sage dawn
#

TRUE

#

THAT IS MY NEW HEADCANON

#

I have found three different bomb bags in shadow temple so far lol

#

Someone's hoverboots are the one check I can't do in shadow

#

Need longshot

weary lagoon
#

which check is that

sage dawn
#

The skull near the boat

weary lagoon
#

you can get that with flittertech

sage dawn
#

The only trick I've seen to get it looks hard

weary lagoon
#

which is to not push the block all the way in and then hookshot up to the boat and spawn the scarecrow and then jump onto the block and hook it

sage dawn
#

Oh that's way easier

weary lagoon
#

ye but probably doomed once you already push the block in

sage dawn
#

I never push the block lol

weary lagoon
#

you need the shortcut for later..

sage dawn
#

Nah the jumpslash clip is easy

#

Lootman's boots

weary lagoon
#

Thanks for ocean title deed, mirror shield (MM), fierce deity, bremen mask, and 3 bomb bags!

sage dawn
#

All the bomb bags were for you lol?

weary lagoon
#

yesss

#

and I had bombs in both games so it was just bigger bags

#

oooh this is the bug they fixed in the newest release

#

They have the flame to put Ikana in a post-dungeon state even though you havent cleared Stone Tower

#

Does anything even change in Ikana lol

sage dawn
#

Yeah, it makes some checks unavailable

weary lagoon
#

Pamelas dad and what else

sage dawn
#

I think poe house?

weary lagoon
#

ah well I got those

#

@fiery mason

#

The mirror shield is great I can fight Igos du Ikana now for a song

#

the biggest hit is probably Elegy

#

can you actually do anything when his head is flying around

sage dawn
#

I am not sure

weary lagoon
#

pretty good!

#

its one dungeon instead of two from elegy

#

pirates fortress

#

ive got "pirates fortress interior is foolish" which im not sure if its only refering to the stuff you stealth through or if sewers are also included

sage dawn
#

I've never seen a sewers hint, so sewers is probably included

weary lagoon
#

I have very little here anyway because sewers needs goron

#

so I only got these 3 ocean chests

#

all bad

#

im clearing the fortress anyway cause I want to play

sage dawn
#

We didn't randomize seahorse right?

midnight depot
#

What does randomizing that even do?

weary lagoon
#

I think he gives you seahorse from the photo

sage dawn
#

Makes showing a pirate photo to the guy a check rather than how you get the seahorse

weary lagoon
#

pretty sure thats just vanilla I dont even remember a setting for it

sage dawn
#

Okay

#

Maybe that's an MM rando thing

midnight depot
#

Oh I thought it was like

#

You get a random maze

sage dawn
#

Oh that would suck

midnight depot
#

So you have to experiment or get the seahorse instead of memorizing

sage dawn
#

I finally found deku tree

#

Which is my last stone which I need to get oath

weary lagoon
#

BK mode FEelsBadMan

sage dawn
#

Got your gtg key ring

weary lagoon
fiery mason
#

Yo ive got all the mm masks now

cold valve
#

How's the game going? Is everyone progressing okay?

sage dawn
#

Going great

weary lagoon
#

ive been pretty stuck for a while

#

really need goron mask and more keys ive got very few of those

cold valve
#

I've been checking in occasionally, but I'm glad i passed this month, this looks way too frustrating for me

#

Not to mention very time consuming

#

It'd probably help if i ever actually completed majora's mask though

weary lagoon
#

the only frustrating part is when you have to wait because its so fun you want to play more

#

the only good thing in the gtg chests was progressive oot shield for lootman

sage dawn
#

Also we did pick settings that would take a while. This was meant to last the month

weary lagoon
#

ye

sage dawn
#

Okay I'm out of checks unless I learn weirdshot which I don't want to do

#

I'm getting real close to 100%

#

Green and orange checks are ones that require keys

#

I didn't use the keysanity version of the tracker lol

lament tusk
#

loading the game up now, havent played in a few days, been busy

#

deku mask opened up so much

#

light arrows gives gives me stone tower too

#

silver gauntlets!

lament tusk
#

zora mask for arti!

oot one and therefore completely useless, but still!

lament tusk
#

ruto's letter for yay

lament tusk
#

uuuugh twinrova
not hard, just annoying and timeconsuming

lament tusk
#

ok phase 2
took a break mid fight after they killed me once
phase 2 is far easier, no annoying dual ai pathing to deal with

#

ezpz

#

ruto's letter unlocked a bit for yay and its 00:20 so im done for the day

sage dawn
#

Nah I already did the clip to do all the stuff locked behind letter.

lament tusk
#

Well I tried

sage dawn
#

It's okay, it would have been a lot if I wasn't a filthy cheater

lament tusk
#

:(

sage dawn
#

The big things I'm looking for right now are hammer, gerudo membership, and spirit keyring

#

Oh and my last clock

#

I basically only have OoT checks left.

#

MM is a few one off checks enabled by a single mask or something

#

Like postman's and shit

#

Which isn't really priority.

lament tusk
#

Ok

sage dawn
#

At some point I'll need OoT mirror shield to beat the game, but it doesn't actually do anything for me until I have spirit keys

#

Bottom of the well keyring is five checks

lament tusk
#

nocturne of shadow, another temple unlocked

#

mm eponas song
...does that actually unlock anything i havent unlocked already with bombs?

#

oh the milk road race

#

woodfall is snowhead

#

i dont have fire arrows so theres a limit to what i can do here

#

lootman well keyring

#

thats a few checks

#

oot bombs lootman, probably just a bag upgrade tho

#

hi whoever's in clocktown by the birb statue

lament tusk
#

lootman boomerang

#

arti pictobox

weary lagoon
#

Thanks 😊

lament tusk
#

reverse ikana well is fire temple? neat

#

i cant really do anything here barring the chest next to the bos, but still neat

#

ikana castle isforest temple, missing keys for it but can still do a lot here
neat

#

lol i found the shadow keyring in the forest temple, my shadow temple itself is benhind forest temple entrance

#

spirit temple leds to the minibos arena thing under ikana waterfall

#

megaton yay

#

gerudo card yay

#

uuuugh i think i can completely do stone tower right now
i dont want to but i think i can

#

oh thank god i can put it off a bit longer, i dont have elegy of emptyness

weary lagoon
#

you dont need that you just go the other way

#

you get to the sunblock which is the "shortcut" in vanilla

lament tusk
#

...dont do this to me

#

(im doing that path rn)

#

i need mm fire arrows for some checks, thats been a pretty big blocker for me so far actually

#

nice i was able to get "pre-boss crystal switch" early because you can activate it upside down via bomb, i didnt know you could do that, i dont have to flip the temple twice again

lament tusk
#

damn i donthave the stone tower boss key

#

i forgot that

#

but i was able to do much of stone tower
didnt unlock anything major tho

#

there are a few more things i can do, theres the milk road race for example, but im done for today
i did a lot already, and got others, mostly lootman, a bunch of checks so theres stuff for folks to do

#

oh i can do mor wshadow temple, right

weary lagoon
#

Picture of tingle was fire keys for mega and reuniting the seahorses was a skulltula!

sage dawn
#

Artiks clock

#

Was locked behind membership

sage dawn
#

Learned the hammer recoil trick to get to morpha without longshot uwu

#

I just need mirror shield and spirit keys for go mode

#

Oh shit and last clock

#

The only item not on this list that gets me more than one check is bottom of the well keys.

#

Oh just realized there's a spirit ZL check I can do now that I couldn't do before

midnight depot
#

There's three in total, the two hands and the boss key (?) chest room

#

I always miss one of the hands because the cutscene only shows one

sage dawn
#

No the adult side lobby chest.

#

There's four

midnight depot
#

Oh yeah the compass chest

#

I hate that one

sage dawn
#

The three you listed need keys

midnight depot
#

Hmm

#

Oh yeah

#

I recall getting to the hands without keys

lament tusk
#

Then learn to lock pick, duh

midnight depot
#

It's because I had shortcuts on

sage dawn
#

It was just a skull :c

#

I know how to lockpick in real life

#

How do I teach Link?

weary lagoon
#

thanks

#

one more clock and I can do day 3 stuff

lament tusk
#

i dont feel 100% today, i may or may not play over the next few days
sorry
just dont have the brain capacity for dealing with dungeons and time travel

weary lagoon
#

thanks for the room key

#

the chest in the inn was 30 arrows!

lament tusk
#

nice

weary lagoon
#

thats all for now

fiery mason
#

p4 all night mask thats something

sage dawn
#

Oh sick

#

Two checks

fiery mason
#

and silver scale

sage dawn
#

Gold and I don't need it for anything

#

Both junk :c

#

Wait I already knew stock pot inn was foolish

fiery mason
#

im in turbo ass mode

#

where i have to wait to day 3 to get epona, all the dungeons it gets to are MM

#

and i have half the day to do them

fiery mason
#

player 1 clock

sage dawn
#

Oh god yeah even inverted you have like 24 minutes to complete a dungeon

weary lagoon
#

just one more SXFAnyaWakuWaku

#

I got forest keyring and day 3 clock real good stuff

weary lagoon
#

Only useful thing in forest temple was eyedrops for Mega

weary lagoon
#

@fiery mason

#

time for the best check in the game

#

dog race without the mask

midnight depot
#

OOTMM should have a check for the blue dog winning

weary lagoon
#

hm..

#

he kinda sucks

#

gold dog is trolling hard today

midnight depot
#

He's so bad that he can only win if the game is bugged

#

(about one in sixteen thousand)

#

(don't quote me on the odds.)

weary lagoon
#

ive put 500 rupees into gold dog so far

#

580 he made the money back once..

#

finally!

#

bombchus for yay

#

didnt really find anything good today despite doing a bunch

lament tusk
#

whoever got me my fire temple keys, thanks
my first check in that dungeon was my ocarina of time ocarina of time

#

yay bremen mask

#

also yay hookshot oot

#

fire temple mostly done, jst need the megaton hammer

weary lagoon
#

Hehe nice now you have to find all the big brain time travel tricks

lament tusk
#

well my oot is nearly complete, i really only need to time travel in the deku tree (which i just did) and the spirit temple

weary lagoon
#

it has a lot of cool uses outside of dungeons but not so much this late when you probably have access to most of the world

lament tusk
#

mm sword upgrade arti

#

yay kafe mask

weary lagoon
#

thanks im a big gilded sword fan

lament tusk
#

how do i climb up here againwithout the longshot? the tracker is telling me its white and therefore intended

weary lagoon
#

backflip onto the chest and hookshot

lament tusk
#

duh
thanks

midnight depot
#

You can also hookshot the corner platform then hoverboots towards the door and roll at the last possible moment

#

It'll give you a funny animation error indicating it's not intended

lament tusk
#

i was trying something like that but it awsnt working, but the backflip trick worked

midnight depot
#

The backflip is easier but both are reasonable

weary lagoon
#

remember to use flittertech for the boat skulltula

lament tusk
#

what?

weary lagoon
#

#1119170161518334004 message

midnight depot
#

For the hover boot trick you may need to turn left a bit

midnight depot
#

Just remember to never put the block in the hole to open the shortcut until you are done with the gold skulltuka

#

If you do it, then you're locked out for the playthrough

weary lagoon
#

Lootman he did shadow last night and apparently he still does not have strength lvl 1 so he couldnt do the block room

#

I dont think ive ever gotten to shadow without strength kinda funny

midnight depot
#

You can't do the stone umbrella room without strength?

#

What if like

#

You used Nayru's love?

weary lagoon
#

well you have to climb the block

lament tusk
#

mmm delicious 20 red rupees

#

that was well worth it

midnight depot
#

I found this funny unrelated skip

lament tusk
#

...huh
i always assumed you needed to beat both skeleton dudes before the boad finished its track

weary lagoon
#

I think Yay899 mentioned this trick a few days ago

lament tusk
#

shadow temple done

weary lagoon
midnight depot
#

Aha!

#

No strength method to get up the spikes

weary lagoon
#

very cool!

wet field
lament tusk
#

gibdo mask arti
that was the rock surloin check, which i thought i couldsnt get but tried it again and the fire spawned this time

lament tusk
#

hmm, im actually not sure how much more i can do now, might be BK mode
i could probably do more great bay i guess, outside of that im stuck

#

but i am done for the day

sage dawn
#

Yeah you can backflip onto the falling spikes and it's way faster than pushing the block

#

You can also get onto the boat without strength by ledge grabbing the wheel on the side

weary lagoon
#

oh no gibdo mask

#

I have to do the well

sage dawn
#

Foudn the ganon boss key that was in my world, and now I'm back in BK mode

weary lagoon
#

Beneath the well had 2 junk items 😡

fiery mason
#

p3 gorons bracelet maybe something

lament tusk
#

oh thats gold strngth

#

gannons castle's been good to me so far, with that i can get the light challenge cheks

#

oh i can beat gannon lol

#

sprit boss key lootman

#

stone tower boss key for arti

#

wow light trial was literally key

#

even found my great bay key

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just the one regular key

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oot bottle for arti

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lootman ocaraina of time, ocarina of time

fiery mason
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wwoooooooooooh

lament tusk
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gannons castle was loaded

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unfortunatly lootman i could have gotten you that a while ago, im sorry

fiery mason
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thats ok it prevented choice paralysis

lament tusk
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that was a spirit trial check, i comlpetely forgot about it

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hope it helps

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well uh
i guess i should kill gannon now?

lament tusk
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there, oot is complete
thats everything important , right? im free now?

lament tusk
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spim attack upgrade arti

weary lagoon
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yessss

lament tusk
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ocarina of time, ocarina of time, yay

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oh noooo i need ifre arrows to finish great bay

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im not sure what checks i can do again

weary lagoon
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yay is gonna be pogged up about that

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we all have our time travelling ocarinas

lament tusk
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yeah but im pretty sure yay is basically done with oot

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well if it helps, then great

sage dawn
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Are you sure that ocarina was for me?

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Did not get it

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Also I'm basically done with both games lol

lament tusk
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Uh you're the only one without one, so pretty sure
Are you connected to the server?

sage dawn
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I wasn't for a bit, but just reconnected

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Maybe you have to be online for me to get the updated manifest

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It's not urgent though

sage dawn
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I have no idea what's going on then

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I did get a bunch of other items though

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Mostly heart containers

lament tusk
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Maybe I wasn't connected? But that doesn't make sense, the game would have frozen

sage dawn
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I'm sure it will work itself out

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Just gotta pick the internet up and shake it

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Worst case I really don't need OoT

lament tusk
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Did you have an ocarina before? Dumb question I know, but it's a progressive check, I just assumed you had fairy already

sage dawn
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I did

lament tusk
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No idea then

weary lagoon
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Something is wrong

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I didnt get anything when I launched

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and the multiclient isnt doing its usual text spam

midnight depot
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What the hell

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They... Ran out of storage and deleted everything before today?

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That really sucks

weary lagoon
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At least Mega beat Ganondorf lets pretend we won

midnight depot
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That is a win!

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More importantly, I want to play it for myself, so if I have a lot of free time I might run another one alongside an AP game

weary lagoon
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lets find out where my goron was

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World 4 OOT Ganon Castle Light Chest Around 6: Player 1 Goron Mask (MM)

midnight depot
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Needs all strengths and entry to GC

weary lagoon
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yeah it was in sphere 49 out of 54

lament tusk
# weary lagoon whelp

That's almost as bad as the fact I have covid right now

But fir real, that sucks a lot, a bit more warning would gave been nice

weary lagoon
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not much to warn they discovered that it was full last night and had to wipe the server. First time it has happened

lament tusk
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Ah

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Still not happy about it but I guess if the server is completely full then you gotta just pick an arbitrary time and date, and our game was 20 days old

weary lagoon
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i dont think they had a choice everything was wiped

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5pm est is when everything was back up again

lament tusk
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Oh I misunderstood, everything was wiped

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Ah

sage dawn
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Oh dude that sucks

weary lagoon
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ye we were pretty close to the end

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well it was a lot of fun while it lasted

sage dawn
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Yeah!

weary lagoon
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Next time im setting c-up and c-left as starting items

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cause the other ones you just kinda get in logic due to song of time but those two can take forever

sage dawn
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I thought it was kinda interesting not having them

lament tusk
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i liked having to find the c buttons

weary lagoon
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I think its really rough if you're stuck without song of soaring for the whole game

lament tusk
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i honestly didnt like the entrance rando tho, not because i didnt enjoy it, but because remembering what i can do in various MM dungeons with what equipment is very hard for me, and the tracker isnt good at that

weary lagoon
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oh thats one of my favorite features

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but it is harder yes

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time travel was also amazing and doesnt work with the tracker

lament tusk
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if the tracker just tracked what items you had not if you could reach the dungeons, that would be so much better

lament tusk
sage dawn
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I loved the entrance rando

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Although having boss entrance rando on top of it is nice

weary lagoon
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what if you finish great bay and then inside the boss room is some motherfker you cant kill and you end up having to reset time and do great bay again..

sage dawn
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Okay fair point

fiery mason
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brought to you by the epona on half of day 3 like 5 times gang

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i like random dungeons, but i dont like mm dungeons at all

lament tusk
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i dont hate them, but find them just confusing enough that expecting to do them in a rando is a pain
its also great when you find a chest that in the base game has a fairy, but you dont know that, so you're looking on the tracker for the chest you just got
its just a lot of minor things that make them more a chore than fun to do

midnight depot
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Has Linkus7 teaching SmallAnt a few skips, like the lost woods mido skip or the forest temple clip

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And has SmallAnt looking a relationship questions list on the internet and asking them all to Linkus7, seeing how far he got before Linkus7 suspects anything

fresh hill
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should I be thinking about which AP games to bring for August?

midnight depot
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Yeah!

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Maybe

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I'm going to schedule a tooth implant surgery very early so it might take me a week or two to recover

midnight depot
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I love GDQ Hotfix

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We couldn't schedule someone for this week so the host will just run OoT rando

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(happened like five times before, each time with a flimsy excuse and with various different hosts)

sage dawn
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I don't watch hotfix OoT rando very often, but the one time I did had someone spend like five minutes failing a stupidly precise hookshot to the windmill heartpiece instead of just doing the jump from the railing

midnight depot
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The railing jump is not intuitive

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I didn't know it was possible because if you try it from the side of the door it will not work

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If you try it from the other side it's fine

sage dawn
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You can do it from the railing that's next to the door? The one if you just turn left the moment you enter.