#Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer
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i need ZF GS Tree @wet field when you get the chance please
and this please @sage dawn when you're free
@lament tusk Meganoughtica|LlisandurOoS|Flippers|Dunes West Wreck - Databox|Subnautica|Vanilla Is this possible?
i dont know
technically im BK mode but i can dive a bit deeper, but i dont know how deep that one is
Ok. I have some more checks in OoS that I'll do tomorrow. Blocked on the other three.
Hi. Let's play OoT
Thanks for deku nuts
I mean, thanks for fire arrows, strength
my safe dive depth is 200m deep, there are 3 dunes wrecks, 2 of those are 300m deep i cant do but one is 217m..
deez nuts
I forgot
What do fire arrows do that Din's fire doesn't?
There's a spot in Ganon's castle
it might be.
its 17m below my safe dive depth but i can deal with that
its also located right next to a reaper leviathan
so uh
yeaaaah
only ganons castle i think
damnit im at the east wreck
this wreck is worthless
im never gonna find a useful item here, some some friggin chain thing
FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Bottle Grotto) to LlisandurLADX (Market Bazaar Item 6)
i dont know if i got everything from that wreck but i did see a reaper leviathan literally jump out of the water to hunt me down while i was surfacing for air, so im gonna run away in terror now
Look like it's one of the deeper ones then.
FlitterOoT sent Dog Food to DrRomLADX (Market Bombchu Shop Item 6)
if you get me this ill be able to do it asap
*this
The ice pyramid one? I already got that earlier.
Yup. XD
sry
No worries.
And that's every shop item
Dog Food found 
FlitterOoT sent Megaphone to LlisandurOoS (Spirit Temple GS Lobby)
no dont phone me, im bad on phones
I only need 12 more gold skulltula tokens to beat the game (also light arrows)
Unfortunately I'm in BK mode, so let's do Factorio
Holy shit I can finally make another science pack
FlitterFactory sent Battle Axe to LlisandurMQ (AP-3-350)
FlitterFactory sent Small Key (Explorer's Crypt) to LlisandurOoS (AP-3-411)
FlitterFactory sent Side Flip to yay899SM64 (AP-3-821)
FlitterFactory sent Slingshot to kroot (AP-3-353)
FlitterFactory sent Small Key (Bottle Grotto) to LlisandurLADX (AP-3-181)
Lots of bangers incoming
FlitterFactory sent Ion Battery to Meganoughtica (AP-3-300)
FlitterFactory sent Letter to Fishmael to Paper Arti (JKB) (AP-3-489)
FlitterFactory sent Lyrics to Paper Arti (JKB) (AP-3-670)
FlitterFactory sent Progressive Boomerang to LlisandurOoS (AP-3-658)
FlitterFactory sent Song of Passing to ArtiWW (AP-3-837)
FlitterFactory sent Empty Bottle to ArtiWW (AP-4-640)
FlitterFactory sent Metal Cap to yay899SM64 (AP-4-160)
FlitterFactory sent Small Key (Gerudo Training Ground) to kroot (AP-4-022)
FlitterFactory sent Nayrus Love to kroot (AP-4-371)
FlitterFactory sent Gold Leaf to LlisandurLADX (AP-4-431)
FlitterFactory sent Storeroom Key to Paper Arti (JKB) (AP-3-437)
FlitterFactory sent Small Key (Water Temple) to kroot (AP-4-831)
FlitterFactory sent Lon Lon Egg to LlisandurOoS (AP-4-545)
FlitterFactory sent Small Key (Key Cavern) to DrRomLADX (AP-3-893)
FlitterFactory sent Small Key (Turtle Rock) to LlisandurLADX (AP-4-033)
FlitterFactory sent Cyclops Engine Fragment to Meganoughtica (AP-4-500)
damnit i need a hull fragment not engine
FlitterFactory sent Nightmare Key (Tail Cave) to DrRomLADX (AP-4-037)
Finally, FlitterFactory sent Mirror Shield to kroot (AP-4-546)
Now for hints so I can proceed:
[Hint]: FlitterFactory's progressive-advanced-material-processing is at Pazuzu's Tower 7F - Pazuzu Chest in LlisandurMQ's World. (not found)```
Both in @tender pelican's worlds
It's also time to see what my rocket silo needs
rocket control units, belt immunity equipment, substations, distractor capsules, night vision equipment, energy shield equipment are all necessary to beat the game
I can make all of those as soon as I get yellow science packs
I am in BK mode now. My weird egg is locked behind purple science packs, which need [Hint]: FlitterFactory's progressive-advanced-material-processing is at Pazuzu's Tower 7F - Pazuzu Chest in LlisandurMQ's World. (not found)
weird egg mentioned
I need my weird egg to get that

Oh what's locking Zora Fountain?
It's locked behind the kakariko village gate
Ah I figured it might be that
And I believe the GS tree is young link only
I'm also waiting on my zelda's letter for the same reason, but I found a circuitous path to get through to where I want
I want to learn this skip https://youtu.be/JKVHUk6c2CE
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โปใชใชใธใใซๅ็ป๏ผhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tnptYogpS8
Jolin012ใใ
Problem is it's poorly explained
i'll need my hookshot for that
let's see if i got it
nope, but i can do a bunch of stuiff including 3 more instruments
DrRomLADX sent Magic Ring to LlisandurMQ (Ballad of the Wind Fish (Mabe Village))
oh nvm, one dungeon can't be finished yet, i still need a small key for tail cave
DrRomLADX sent Crown to LlisandurFF1 (Banana Sale (Toronbo Shores))
Need upstairs key
no worries then
Oh Snowman's land
welll lots of worries, its a key blocker for me, but no worries
I was confused when you mentioned upstairs because I thought you were talking about the boo mansion
level 3 done, 2 instruments down
DrRomLADX sent Tingle's Chart to ArtiWW (Dodongo Chest (Turtle Rock))
level 8 done, 3 instruments down
DrRomLADX sent Boo Portrait to Paper Arti (JKB) (Hot Head Heart Container (Turtle Rock))
DrRomLADX sent Treasure Chart 4 to ArtiWW (Nightmare Key Ledge Chest (Angler's Tunnel))
i am BKd now
@tender pelican [Hint]: DrRomLADX's Progressive Power Bracelet is at Giant Tree 5F - South Right Box in LlisandurMQ's World. (not found)
these are all my unfound hints
i don't need the heart container
But I love hearts
How do you feel about Factorio revealing all items as hints from the beginning of the game?
it's fine for me
Im furious about it
I could make it so it reveals no items as hints, or only reveals items from the next layer
you have to go through the layers in order right?
Yes and no
Each layer requires one more type of science pack
So I have to have the ability to go through each layer in order
But once I'm capable of getting the checks, I'm only constrained by the in-game tech tree
my major blockers now are flippers and hookshot, everything else will only unlock a few checks at most
let's see
Level 1: small key
Level 4: flippers
Level 5: flippers, hookshot
Level 6: flippers, progressive power bracelet
Level 7: hookshot
Egg: Ballad of the Wind Wish
those are my remaining blockers
Wtf im last........................
them's the breaks
im thinking
I finally get a star spirit today
I didnt get a single one in the abandoned game last month
you need so much shit for every chapter
can you hint for it?
They are the end of chapter rewards
You just need a million different things to beat any chapter
Paper Arti (JKB) sent Small Key (Angler's Tunnel) to DrRomLADX (DDO Outpost 1 Composer Lyrics Reward)
ah, that can get me one check, i'll see if it's something useful
i have a hunch that my town shop is in the rooster grave
nope it was just a seashell
[Hint]: DrRomLADX's Ballad of the Wind Fish is at Forest Temple Phantom Ganon Heart in FlitterOoT's World at Kakariko Village -> Bottom of the Well. (not found)
that's all my blockers hinted except the small key
Paper Arti (JKB) sent Small Key (Turtle Rock) to DrRomLADX (BM Basement In Crate)
lol, I found my ultra boots in the room where you get super boots
โ ๏ธ WEIRD EGG ALERT โ ๏ธ
Paper Arti (JKB) sent Nightmare Key (Face Shrine) to DrRomLADX (TT Gate District Dojo: Master 3)
both my games are in BK mode now
Paper Mario is in BK mode and still last place I thought that wasnt possible with progression balancing
TIL of Bongo Bongo quick kill https://youtu.be/espqN-0Nqas
well, no matter what progression balancing does, one player could always just not play their game as much and leave you BK'd
the "guarantee" that prog balancing attempts to provide is based on assuming all players try to be at the same % of their games at all times if not BK'd, which of course is less true in practice the longer a multiworld goes on
Yeah, if someone doesn't find your items somehow that could leave you stranded
oh im stranded alright..
You could also have checks left but not realize it
Happens to me a lot with Entrance Rando
Oh so parakarry upgrades are useless if you haven't found parakarry to begin with
@wet field [Hint]: LlisandurFF1's Oxyale is at Deku Tree Queen Gohma Heart in kroot's World at Zoras Fountain -> Jabu Jabus Belly Beginning. (not found) Is this possible? I need it to progress.
[Hint]: LlisandurMQ's Sun Coin is at Dodongos Cavern MQ Deku Scrub Lobby Front in kroot's World at Zoras Fountain -> Jabu Jabus Belly Beginning. (not found) Also this.
[Hint]: LlisandurLADX's Bird Key is at Alien Thermal Plant - Entrance Alien Data Terminal in Meganoughtica's World. (not found)
@weary lagoon LlisandurLADX sent Bombette to Paper Arti (JKB) (Mad Batter (Tal Tal Mountains))
@lament tusk [Hint]: LlisandurLADX's Bomb is at Lifepod 12 - PDA in Meganoughtica's World. (not found)
oh i can probably get that, lifepod 12 is just out of dive reach, tho it would have to wait till after D&D
Ok, bombs would be a huge help.
holy crap its bombette
maybe I go finish koopa bros fortress right now
Paper Arti (JKB) sent Power Bracelets to ArtiWW (KBF Jail Bombette Partner)
gigantic
Chapter 1 complete!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yay.
my flower fields just opened up idk whats going on
im supposed to need 4 seeds to open it I only have 1
Blocked on everything. I think most of my progression items are with Kratta now.
lifepod 12 get
Woot.
is that bomb bag or just bomb refil tho
It's the thing that lets me actually use bombs.
I think that opened like 20 checks.
the compas is great to help me navigate, i usually have to guess exactly where im going and hope for the best
anyway sleep time for me
I need my weird egg
Wait no
I think I need boomerang
This I can get
Looks like the boomerang is at AP-5-376.
thanks for items
let's do some catch-up before bed
sun coin for llisandurMQ
Oxyale for LlisandurFF1
I mean if SM64 had more checks I would probably be in last lol
Next time I'll fight you for last >:3
bow for paper arti
[Hint]: kroot's Megaton Hammer is at Dancing Dragon Dungeon (2F): Pool Drop in LlisandurOoS's World. (not found)
Holy hell dancing dragon dungeon
[Hint]: kroot's Iron Boots is at Vanish Cap Under the Moat Switch in yay899SM64's World at Tick Tock Clock. (not found)
Hi
Let's play OoT
Thanks for biggoron sword, serenade of water, forest temple key ring, epona's song
cant. at the gym rn
My tracker seems to think I can fight phantom ganon but only as young Link
But I have no key
Let's play Factorio
[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Boomerang is at Fire Temple MQ GS Big Lava Room Open Door in kroot's World at Gerudo Fortress -> Gerudo Training Ground Lobby. (not found)
LlisandurMQ sent Double Defense to FlitterOoT (Giant Tree 4F - Hook Ledge Southwest Box) thanks
LlisandurMQ sent Nayrus Love to FlitterOoT (Giant Tree 3F - Worm Room North Box)
LlisandurMQ sent progressive-advanced-material-processing to FlitterFactory (Pazuzu's Tower 7F - Pazuzu Chest) Thanks!
Need [Hint]: LlisandurMQ's Thunder Rock is at Nightmare Key/Torch Cross Chest (Catfish's Maw) in DrRomLADX's World. (not found) for FFMQ. Almost done.
But now I must go to work before I do other games.
Have a good time at work
With both of my hints I should be able to get every remaining check in Factorio
Nice.
I need flippers and hookshot for this
Have those been hinted?
Yeah
folks unlocked my mobile vehicle bay and cyclops and didnt tell me? rood
well thats... basically all my checks unlocked, so im gonna be busy for the next few hours, fortunately im free for the next few hours
Yay.
Since you're playing I'll focus on getting your stuff first
FlitterFactory sent Ultra High Capacity Tank to Meganoughtica (AP-5-315)
And that's every item you have
Next up, my items
FlitterFactory sent Weird Egg to FlitterOoT (AP-5-620)
FlitterFactory sent Small Key Ring (Gerudo Training Ground) to FlitterOoT (AP-5-476)
Then Dr. RomulusFlitterFactory sent Nightmare Key (Eagle's Tower) to DrRomLADX (AP-5-663)
Kratta next:
FlitterFactory sent Boomerang to kroot (AP-5-376)
FlitterFactory sent Small Key (Forest Temple) to kroot (AP-5-358)
fount kroot gannon boss key
Nice
Llisandur:
FlitterFactory sent Excalibur to LlisandurMQ (AP-5-865)
FlitterFactory sent Small Key (Explorer's Crypt) to LlisandurOoS (AP-5-007)
FlitterFactory sent Progressive Sword to LlisandurOoS (AP-5-253)
FlitterFactory sent Small Key (Poison Moth's Lair) to LlisandurOoS (AP-5-792)
FlitterFactory sent Nightmare Key (Eagle's Tower) to LlisandurLADX (AP-5-924)```
Artiks:
FlitterFactory sent Odd Key to Paper Arti (JKB) (AP-5-466)
FlitterFactory sent Empty Bottle to ArtiWW (AP-5-825)
And that's every important item that takes purple science
I'll work on orange science later
ledge grab for yay
I forgot one: FlitterFactory sent Nightmare Key (Eagle's Tower) to LlisandurLADX (AP-5-924)
is this important?
It's progression
Thanks.
Giant's Axe is nice, but I just need any axe for progression and got one way earlier.
I need bird key and flippers.
For LADX.
fuck, my seamoth just exploded and im 500m deep. im dead
Oh no.
what is LADX anyway
oooh
it was full of stuff, and so was my inventory
i;d also upgraded it a bunch
damnit
taking a short break out of frustration
That sucks
i can rebuild it, and grab the resources eazy, just sucks
maybe
I have no idea what's in a resource bundle
random stuff usually
I forgot another one
FlitterFactory sent Elixir to LlisandurMQ (AP-5-809)
That's all for now
When I come back I'll do yellow science
Thanks. Now just need the withered branch to use that.
I'm back
hi
hi
FlitterFactory sent Boss Key (Shadow Temple) to FlitterOoT (AP-6-949)
FlitterFactory sent Lens of Truth to FlitterOoT (AP-6-415)
FlitterFactory sent Letter to Koover 2 to Paper Arti (JKB) (AP-6-076)
FlitterFactory sent Pulse Stone to Paper Arti (JKB) (AP-6-047)
FlitterFactory sent Progressive Hammer to Paper Arti (JKB) (AP-6-031)
2 great items!
FlitterFactory sent Small Key (Fire Temple) to kroot (AP-6-961)
FlitterFactory sent Nightmare Key (Color Dungeon) to LlisandurLADX (AP-6-043)
FlitterFactory sent Small Key (Color Dungeon) to LlisandurLADX (AP-6-152)
Hi yay
FlitterFactory found their rocket-silo (AP-6-972)
I forgot that I need climbing to finish bowser in the fire sea
What are those for?
Oh ok i was wondering why the silo needed that specific stuff
Thanks for worker robot speed
The passive provider flowers are also chests but I have a mod that makes flying drones into bees
FlitterFactory (Team #1) has completed their goal.
Given the remaining checks I have are all junk, I elected to just release them
I shall also play oot
Thanks for Nayru's love, double defense, (so much block), weird egg, GTG key ring, shadow temple boss key, lens of truth, biggest wallet, my second bottle, water temple key ring
thanks for items [important]
I have a lot to do!
Do you actually need iron boots for anything if you have hookshot and golden scale?
yay899SM64 sent Iron Boots to kroot (Vanish Cap Under the Moat Switch)
...alright, never mind
Toilet
There's also the check in the bottom floor of water temple central pillar
FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Ancient Ruins) to LlisandurOoS (Song from Impa)
Yeah there's a lot you can do with just golden scale but there's a few things
kroot sent Progressive Hookshot to FlitterOoT (Spirit Temple Twinrova Heart)
beans for flitter
I think I'm going to use the trick to skip the ganon's tower trials and beat the game early, but I'll still have a bunch of checks to get
actually no I won't. I don't want to break the rules 
next time I'll just turn off the trial requirements so that the skip will effectively be in logic
I always do trials skip even when I've done the trials because it's just fun
wait lmao I did turn the trial requirements off
kroot sent Ice Trap to FlitterOoT (Ganons Tower Boss Key Chest)
hi, let's play ladx
thanks for stuff! now i can open the rooster grave
just as expected, the rooster grave has my town shop in it
@tender pelican do you need a WizardRod for FF1? it's my 980 rupee item
wow, we're at the exact same % in LADX
and both are slightly below average
No to wizard rod.
It's an ok item, but I usually kill them faster than having them confused will help.
BowWow for Rom
LlisandurLADX (Team #1) has completed their goal.
Beat it with half a heart left.
Also didn't do most of the dungeons.
141/220 checks.
:P
DrRomLADX sent Progressive Shield to LlisandurOoS (Kiki (Ukuku Prairie))
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LlisandurLADX sent Boss Key (Spirit Temple) to FlitterOoT (Top Right Horse Heads Chest (Face Shrine))```
Hi. Let's play OoT
if llisandur released 80 checks i guess i got a bunch of stuff
You got...
LlisandurLADX sent Letter to Muss T to Paper Arti (JKB) (Lava Arrow Statue Key (Turtle Rock))
LlisandurLADX sent Wind God's Aria to ArtiWW (Gibdos on Cracked Floor Key (Turtle Rock))
LlisandurLADX sent Spoils Bag to ArtiWW (West of Boss Door Ledge Chest (Turtle Rock))
LlisandurLADX sent Parakarry to Paper Arti (JKB) (Kirby Ledge Chest (Eagle's Tower))```
Full log in case I missed something:
Thanks for hookshot, beans, zelda's lullaby, spirit temple boss key
Yeah, I beat the final boss because I was doing 20 shells instead of instruments, then I did a dungeon to collect more checks and decided I just wasn't feeling it so I released. I think I can really only do one Gameboy Zelda game at a time. XD
That's every bean planted. Next up, bottom of the well and the hyrule castle great fairy fountain

you can also get that by taking the owl from death mountain and playing song of time with ocarina of time to become an adult
My owl drops are randomized

FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Forest Temple) to kroot (KF GS House of Twins)
FlitterOoT sent Star Stone to Paper Arti (JKB) (Colossus GS Tree)
This seems more useful than star pieces
FlitterOoT sent Letter to Goompa to Paper Arti (JKB) (Fire Temple GS Scarecrow Top)
@sage dawn and @weary lagoon what do you still need to get these checks for my hookshot and flippers?
the toy train
shy guys toy box is great
you throw a toy train into it
and then you jump into and its a dungeon
and you can ride the toy train
no
but I have a million things to do in both games
i can finally play today its been some busy days
How do you feel about Paper Mario as an archipelago game?
its good but the balance is kinda hard to hit
when I played keysanity last month there were 900 different things needed to beat every chapter so I had to backtrack everywhere all the time
but now that keys are in dungeons its maybe too easy
definitely better than last time though
all of these were shuffled last month
thats just one chapter and you need all of them to beat chapter six
Makes sense
shuffled chapter difficulty is pretty fun
you can get really hard enemies in chapter 1 and easy in 7 etc
Today I learned if you enter a loading zone while riding epona into an area that doesn't allow it, you're placed on your feet as Link
But when you next enter an area compatible with horse riding, the game puts you back on Epona
Probably still have the riding bit set.
Yeah
And since it's, I'm assuming, not an area you can usually ride into, there's nothing on the transition to unset the bit.
Because if I recall, you can ride epona into castle town but you won't be riding when you exit again.
if you mean in an intended way no you cant ride epona into castle town
It's been a while, I don't remember. XD
Big link
thanks for the master sword

Lol.
lets see
in wind waker im missing 2 important items for checks
bombs in roms world and the command melody
That i need the hookshot only for
still need a lot of other things to beat Ganon though
I might be able to beat forest temple with that key I got
it would be nice to have that
IIRC you need two or three keys total to beat forest temple with the appropriate skips
unfortunately getting progressive bomb bag doesnt give you bombs in this game
You can make p11's nut sack bigger
:|
@sage dawn Climb is necessary, right? I might be able to get that for you today
I've already used a couple keys in there and it's master quest anyways so who knows how that shit works
goated
I am back in BK mode
I'm gonna start setting the MQ dungeon probability back to 0. I was curious about them but they kinda all suck 
I have MQ dungeons set to a low probability
But they never showed up
Next I need: Boomerang, iron boots, light arrows, Saria's song, and all the boss keys I can get
I was hoping they'd all have much harder enemies, but it's mostly just lots of weirdly placed switches
I want a mode that shuffles every doorway
[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Sarias Song is at Ancient Ruins (3F): Armos Hall Chest in LlisandurOoS's World. (not found)
[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Boomerang is at Fire Temple MQ GS Big Lava Room Open Door in kroot's World at Gerudo Fortress -> Gerudo Training Ground Lobby. (not found)
I like combining Jabu Jabu master quest with cowsanity
I wonder what is in my seashell mansion
Not worth a hint though
Watch it be another seashell
Climbing or long jump
Sweet, sounds like you're getting climbing today
Oh god yes please. Not having climbing sucks
It's been locked behind the ocarina of time check 
Yeah lol
It's okay I have enough health that ice traps are pointless now
time to play ocarina of time
kratta are you joining ootmmjuly
do you wanna vc while you do
sure
Wind Waker is somehow already in BK mode
I have 3 dungeons open but theyre locked behind bombs and command melody
Really gonna need that toy train..
I think I have like 300 checks available in paper mario but thats gonna have to wait until after dinner
Well kratta should be getting climb for yay who should be getting my hookshot with that, then i can get your bombs
Done 288 and missing 151 checks doesnt line up at all with my 51% on the website tracker
Are you on the right save?
yes
it must be like hollow knight
checks show up on the website tracker even if disabled
Yeah makes sense
https://archipelago.gg/tracker/Fa0RA6CkRuGfY8UWd8rboA/0/1 Your tracker page says you've done 280 checks and have about 280 left
The tracker may just have a different list
anyway I probably have like 100/150 available
the 71 is a lie because I have keys in dungeons which means I will find keys
oh actually I could've beat the forest temple already - I have two extra keys!
Nice
...oh, that's volvagia
guess I'll just get random checks then. I really need my hammer
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Hatsune Miku is in this
i wonder if my toy train is considered a key and is in the toy box
Do you have enough points to hint for it?
im gonna clear out half the gamer later so yeah
I don't like to listen to runs where the music is swapped or the sounds randomized, do it's good that the left side guy lost his connection
I like it on gdq where they plando the music to show off cool remixes
Alright everyone time for 4 hours of paper mario
if you lock in you can do anything
Paper Arti (JKB) sent Basement Key to yay899SM64 (GR Goomba Village Goompapa Letter Reward 2)
this would make beating enemies a lot easier krรธt
triple jump for yay
Nice.
grats
Paper Arti (JKB) found their Toy Train (SGT BLU Block City Infront Of Chest)
Paper Arti (JKB) sent Flippers to DrRomLADX (SGT GRN Station Hidden Block)
you already know which one this is
This will allow me to get the instruments from levels 4 and 6, along with a bunch of extra checks
@midnight depot close..
It's okay I haven't played that game
4

thinking thats enough for now
there we go, flippers for llisandur
Yay.
Let's play OoT. Thanks for:
kroot sent Boss Key (Forest Temple) to FlitterOoT (HC GS Storms Grotto)
Meganoughtica sent Requiem of Spirit to FlitterOoT (Grand Reef North Wreck - Bottom Databox)
kroot sent Small Key Ring (Shadow Temple) to FlitterOoT (ZR Deku Scrub Grotto Front)
Oh also thanks for more magic
FlitterOoT sent Progressive Picto Box to ArtiWW (Shadow Temple Falling Spikes Upper Chest)
FlitterOoT found their Ice Arrows (Shadow Temple Falling Spikes Switch Chest)
Pierre shadow cheese successfully done
New Bongo Bongo tech!
Turns out you can hookshot his hand while he's drumming to interrupt him
Forest temple is ganon's castle
FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Tail Cave) to DrRomLADX (Market 10 Big Poes)
Lets fuck8n goooooooo
That's one more instrument i can get tonight
Levels 5 and 7 will require hookshot
Then i need the ballad and that's it
I am back in BK mode.
Soon I'll have enough gold skulltulas to open the rainbow bridge, which should have ice cavern
i ahve 6 checks left then i gott get 2 more neptune bits and im out
but ill do the last stuff tomorrow, and hint those last two things too
FF1 complete. Released 2 items.
let's play some mother fuckin LADX
level 1 done, 4 instruments down
DrRomLADX sent Pyramid Jewel to LlisandurOoS (Flipper Locked After Boots Pit Chest (Angler's Tunnel))
DrRomLADX sent Iron Boots to FlitterOoT (Angler Fish Heart Container (Angler's Tunnel))
level 4 done, 5 instruments down
level 6 done, 6 instruments down
DrRomLADX sent Progressive Sword to ArtiWW (Nightmare Key Chest (Color Dungeon))
I think I have the boss key for phantom ganon
@wet field LlisandurOoS sent Megaton Hammer to kroot (Dancing Dragon Dungeon (2F): Pool Drop)
Hi
Let's play OoT
Thanks for fire temple boss key, strength, iron boots
Tips for beating phantom ganon as child link: Bottles have a massive radius for reflecting his projectiles
FlitterOoT sent Ballad of the Wind Fish to DrRomLADX (Forest Temple Phantom Ganon Heart) @cold valve
FlitterOoT sent Nightmare Key (Catfish's Maw) to DrRomLADX (HF Tektite Grotto Freestanding PoH)
FlitterOoT sent Letter to Franky to Paper Arti (JKB) (Ice Cavern Freestanding PoH)
Sweet, just need the hookshot and I'm done
FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Turtle Rock) to LlisandurLADX (Forest Temple GS Basement)
Volvagia is dead
FlitterOoT sent Kick to yay899SM64 (Water Temple Compass Chest)
My sun's song was in bum fuck nowhere, far out of logic
Stupid evil game
And that's everything in water temple except for the boss. It's funny how a lot of these checks have tricks to get to them. Way more than other dungeons
[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Light Arrows is at Water Temple Morpha Heart in FlitterOoT's World at ZF Ice Ledge -> Ice Cavern Beginning. (not found) Bah. I need the boss key to get this
And I know the key cannot be in my world
Not Local Items: Bolero of Fire, Boomerang, Boss Key (Fire Temple), Boss Key (Forest Temple), Boss Key (Shadow Temple), Boss Key (Spirit Temple), Boss Key (Water Temple), Bow, Dins Fire, Nocturne of Shadow, Ocarina, Prelude of Light, Progressive Hookshot, Progressive Strength Upgrade, Progressive Wallet, Requiem of Spirit, Serenade of Water, Slingshot
Oh yeah I have strength so I can get the checks in Ganon's castle
FlitterOoT found their Rupee (1) (Ganons Castle Light Trial Invisible Enemies Chest) Greg!
Oh and I can beat Twinrova now
FlitterOoT sent Ice Arrows to kroot (Spirit Temple Boss Key Chest)
Twinrova down
FlitterOoT sent Goron Vase to LlisandurOoS (Spirit Temple Twinrova Heart)
With that, I have six medallions, which opens the rainbow bridge, which should be Gerudo Training Ground
After my coffee finishes steeping it's hammer time 
so odd that the master quest fire temple gives you the hammer in like the third room
It had my minuet of forest
FlitterOoT found their Minuet of Forest (Gerudo Training Ground Lobby Left Chest)
Honestly the game should give you the hammer instead of the master sword
alright! i ahve oficcially done every singe one of my checks
And you should have to find the master sword
ngl tho i kinda cant be bothered to actually finish my game
You should not join archipelago with a game you will not finish
its just a waiting game now so i can get the last 2 bits of the neptune, plus some faffing about looking for the cure
i just got bored of subnmautica this month, i wasnt bored of it a few weeks ago
i think i lost my taste for the game after losing my seamoth
That sucks, I guess I can see being demotivated, and I hope you can get better at predicting that in the future
This is the best part of Ocarina of Time
lol
FlitterOoT sent Gold Leaf to DrRomLADX (Gerudo Training Ground Maze Right Central Chest)
My boomerang!

Thanks
Ok boomer /j
I quickly went from most of the map being red to being able to get almost every check in the game
we're at the avengers: engame now
FlitterOoT sent Vanish Cap to yay899SM64 (Sheik in Kakariko)
the tracker seems to have these two checks swapped. whoops
Oh weird
kroot sent Triforce Shard 2 to ArtiWW (Fire Temple MQ Big Lava Room Blocked Door Chest)
FlitterOoT sent Cannon Unlock TTM to yay899SM64 (LLR GS Back Wall)
I don't know
It's a me, Mario
Yay i get the seashell mansion AND Richard's house this game
My seashell mansion held a power star for yay this time
oh, you're supposed to just randomly lock on and hookshot it and it opens the door. Master Quest!
Oh like the wall tile?
yes
I wish i could force an actually useful item into the seashell mansion
I know even in the vanilla game there are a lot of walls with random hookshot spots where the texture and model have been removed but you can still hookshot them anyway
You can! Bother people who have trash incorrectly marked as priority to set these items to local
I do it with Gold Skulltula Tokens
I did it with seashells
You can also plando an item from your own world into the mansion
That way it'll be guaranteed to hold an item you know
@wet field these are the last two things i need to finish the game, then im done
I wish i could set rupees and magic powder and medicine to not be priority items
I can get both of those today
You can modify the apworld file
sweet, but no rush
(You'll have to delve into the source code, usually in python)
I don't know python but I've messed with GDscript which is similar, and also I'm not a bad programmer, i can probably figure it out
I managed to parse elixir when browsing the manebooru source code
I am a bad programmer
LADX is officially supported, so your best bet is to check out this file or something https://github.com/ArchipelagoMW/Archipelago/blob/main/worlds/ladx/Items.py
Ixrec might know how to then prepare an apworld file for me to include in future games
You can't directly modify the apworld because it contains compiled python
compiled python?
I know
I was surprised too
Barinade is shattered
It's this
It's a python-like language that's fully interoperable with python, which means any python program is valid for it
Shattered might be one of the 10 strongest words
No clue
True! In this case he does literally break into pieces
oh wait it uses cpython
I guess I've never heard of cython
oh pandas uses cython
kroot sent Sushie Upgrade to Paper Arti (JKB) (Fire Temple MQ Freestanding Key)
How am I supposed to get this as child link?
the tracker says it's adult link only, but maybe it's wrong?
wtf
Also works with a couple other places, I think
Open the gate at Gerudo's fortress as adult then come back as child and it'll be open
I knew about that one
and deku tree
kroot sent Neptune Boosters to Meganoughtica (Gerudo Training Ground MQ Eye Statue Chest)
finally have all the spiritual stones ๐ตโ๐ซ
Time to fight ganon
thinking im gonna play some paper mario now
@sage dawn you may now climb
@lament tusk
kroot sent Neptune Fuel Reserve to Meganoughtica (Song from Ocarina of Time)
I also got you a couple of things you didn't ask for
me?
No yay
does anyone know what delivery bag is and if it's important?
Which game?
I don't know
three delivery bags?
Sorry, the spoiler file lists it three times
what number do I react with
One of them always tells the truth
All of them at once
7
for the record, please don't actually try this (at least, not for this specific kind of change)
if e.g. rupees are progression, that probably means at least one of the logic rules is referencing rupees, and "just" making rupees non-progression will completely break that part of logic, potentially bricking the whole apworld
technically rupees are progression because some checks require them, but it's annoying that it makes people think they're actually important
fwiw, an .apworld is literally just a zip of a folder containing .py files (citation)
unsupported games like mine usually just ship an .apworld with only the source .py files (I literally do right-click -> zip on my source folder when I release OW), I think the use of pre-compiled .pyc files is specifically a supported game thing that AP's build system does, similar to how it turns e.g. the MultiServer.py script in the source repo into an ArchipelagoServer.exe file for the official releases
You can't feasibly get rupees from elsewhere in the game?
In oot it's easy enough to get rupees without getting them as items
yeah, changing whether an item is progression quickly turns into a whole rando design discussion
one reason many AP games try to avoid combat logic or money logic, or keep those parts of logic very simple, is because they'd otherwise end up with lots of items being progression that arguably shouldn't be or are far less important than the truly blocking items
granted, if you're willing to set up a proper AP dev environment with a fork of the source repo and PyCharm running the unit tests, and you're willing to figure out what changes need to be made to the logic when you mess with the items, then, sure, go ahead and make custom apworld edits, it's not that hard
they're super easy to get, especially if you have your trendy game
sounds like they shouldn't be progression, then. Like how oot does it
specifically, by the time you can get to the shop(s?), it's reasonable to assume you have (or can very quickly and easily farm) enough rupees to buy everything that matters?
and usually you start with the trendy game as soon as you can clear bushes
it also gives powder!
and medicine can always be bought
DrRomLADX sent Tingle Tuner to ArtiWW (Under Richard's House (Pothole Field))
bk'd again
What is this omg 
Subnautica is in there?
Along with... -reads notes-
Adventure?
And Dark Souls?
It's multi-world randomizers. Everyone plays their own randomized game, they don't have to be the same, and you find items for other players in your own game and some items are in others' games.

Check it out at https://archipelago.gg.
I am doing that as we speak
I'm gonna blindly try to make a game out of all the ones I already know
Ohhh so you play multiple games and link those games together
Interesting!!
Should be very fine to set the YAML so one of the starting items gives a renewable source of rupees then remove rupees from being considered progression
Hi. This is a multiworld randomizer. This means:
1- Everyone picks one or more games and randomizes the stuff in them.
2- A program links everyone's games together so your game's items can be in another game and you'll receive them if that player finds them.
Check out the pins for a little guide. We play one game a month, and are wrapping up this month's game.
Gosh why does discord make it so hard to see the pins on mobile..
Okay, I see now!
Next month we will not run a Manechat archipelago game because I am going on vacation but Artiks intends to run a different multiworld with OoT and MM (everyone runs both)
Okay!
when I was a kid and didnt know what to do in OoT I would parkour around Kakariko
you could try that
No, if I wanted to do anything I'd just do trials skip and beat ganon
Well, fight him. I still need light arrows
Yay. :)
this should be the only relevant thing left in my game
if its even needed
Im not gonna go out of my way to search for it right now with so much left to do in wind waker
probably around 08:25 with the bowser fight
I think its like one check in that dungeon. I'll have to check when I get home from work. I got most everything there already.
it could be roms too
Sword & Shield dungeon is OoS dungeon 8.
oh my b
Congrats
nice nice
ill play wind waker now
Thanks for the assembled triforce of courage
upgraded master sword
and light arrows
I believe that puts me one sword upgrade from winning the game
oh i might need mirror shield to kill ganon as well
ArtiWW sent Progressive Shield to LlisandurOoS (Wind Temple - Chest Behind Seven Armos)
Seven armos is a lot
ArtiWW sent Small Key (Tail Cave) to DrRomLADX (Wind Temple - Spike Wall Room - Destroy All Cracked Floors)
thats everything in the wind temple
@tender pelican ill need this for the earth temple and ganondorf
ArtiWW sent Arrows (10) to kroot (Hyrule - Master Sword Chamber)
ArtiWW sent Yoshi Doll to LlisandurLADX (Earth Temple - Transparent Chest in First Crypt)
Surprisingly im already in BK mode until I get bombs or mirror shield
I need yay to get me my hookshot for artibombu
Got it
Wait that was Flitter's hookshot
Where's your hookshot again?
IN MAH BELLY!
it's go time!
DrRomLADX sent Thunder Rock to LlisandurMQ (Nightmare Key/Torch Cross Chest (Catfish's Maw))
level 5 done, 7 instruments down
DrRomLADX sent Bombs to ArtiWW (Lava Ledge Chest (Turtle Rock))
@weary lagoon
I've pretty much cleared everything out, but I don't want to do TTC because the clock hands aren't working on the entrance it got randomized to
LlisandurOoS sent Progressive Shield to ArtiWW (Ancient Ruins (1F): Magnet Ball Puzzle Drop)
level 7 done, 8 instruments down
DrRomLADX (Team #1) has completed their goal.
DrRomLADX found their Heart Container (Fisher (Martha's Bay))
DrRomLADX sent Gold Skulltula Token to kroot (Pot Locked Chest (Face Shrine))```
and i got the seagull ending too
LlisandurMQ (Team #1) has completed their goal.
I need one more small key for OoS.
im done
I had everything I needed yesterday, I just needed to get out of the deep lava and acid caverns, gather some titanium and lithium and build the neptune
So I put it off till 1am my time today apparently
Well done
Next time I think I'll just make it cure rather than launch, once I can cure I've gotten all the available checks anyway and I'm just waiting for the Neptune
We're at nine out of twelve games.
In order to finish my game I need water temple boss key to kill morpha.
i saw llisandur send that to you
Oh good! In that case I will finish the game tomorrow
Just ahead of schedule because I leave on the first of the month
#731205301818359821 message
List of supported games on sale in the archipelago server
(for the summer steam sale. Post is too big to post here.)
#732439195599241236 message
Same list minus links including unsupported games that are playable
sounds like everything is wrapping up
I need one more sword upgrade to beat Ganondorf
Whats it called? Its probably in my world
Hello
Let's play OoT
Thank you for longshot, more bombs, water temple boss key, saria's song, my 19th heart
Yesterday I learned you can play Song of Storms here to summon a fairy
Let's sing to the frogs
Five froggish tenors song: Aโ โบ โผ โ โบ โผ A โผ A โผ โบ โ A
Let's sing to Darunia
And the skull kid
Lots of progression items that are not really useful
its funny hearing you discovering things i found out when i was... 5? 6?
Yeah I first played this game when I was like thirty
sorry thats not meant to be a dig at you
just a bit nostalgic for me, the feeling of watching someone discovering a game for the first time, but its something i know intimately
It's time to fight Morpha
And dead!
There are my light arrows, and the Goron Ruby
And that's Ganon's Tower boss key chest
The last check I have in the game is this one
[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Claim Check is at Tower of the Gods - Darknut Miniboss Room in ArtiWW's World. (not found)
It will have my 100th gold skulltula, giving me a perfect save file
FlitterOoT (Team #1) has completed their goal.
Good game. Thanks for playing with me
crazy that everyone but 2 games are complete and then you have wind waker at 54% in BK mode until just last night
Yeah, it's really silly. I hope you get to finish it in time
yeah i just need a sword
i dont think its actually 54% either its probably counting all the checks I turned off because it was a short run
but its 2 whole dungeons and everything in the overworld involving bombs
You can check the list of locations
Are you going to play more Paper Mario too? I noticed there's a bunch of items left over to get there
no theres like 7 checks the rest are turned off
Oh okay
As predicted, there was only one progression item left, and one check left. Since gold skulltula tokens are local it had to be there.
If Llisandur hints the last key and I hint the sword I can finish pretty quickly today.
You have until the end of the month before I have to go and can't write the recap
It'll have to wait for me to get home from work. It's the small key for the sword & Shield dungeon.
I thought you got that already?
No that was my !remaining checks
Ah. I didn't think I'd need it at the time.
Are any of these important?
Remaining items: Power Star, Power Star, Heal Potion, Seashell, Fishing Hook
I can't imagine you need all seashells, but I forget what fishing hook is
Fishing hook is a trade item in my game, i don't need it
Sweet because I don't want to do TTC without time frozen
It would have given me a heart container
But I released that already
My only other missing item was a small key for face shrine that would have given kroot a GST
You can always !release to send the remaining checks you don't wanna do
I did already
Yeah but you're not yay
Oh
I'm reminding her because she hasn't played in a while and might have forgotten it's possible
I need power stars
Oh I just remembered something
Doesn't SM64 rando make it so the tick tock clock level can be changed at the normal location even if the level is randomized?
Hell yeah
glad I hinted it before doing two full dungeons for no reason
Puppet Ganon is crazy
definitely on the Bowser 3 tier of hard Nintendo bosses
Alright one tier under Bowser 3
ArtiWW (Team #1) has completed their goal.

8 checks left in paper mario
theyre all annoying so lets hope the key isnt the last one
Paper Arti (JKB) sent Small Key (Sword & Shield Dungeon) to LlisandurOoS (DDO Outpost 2 Mr. E. Letter Reward)
aaaaall done
Yay.
Congrats
Thank you for joining me in the second Manechat Archipelago for June 2024. This game had a whooping 83 spheres for some ungodly reason (Only 3209 locations though.) The playthrough file lists from last to first: Paper @weary lagoon, @midnight depot OoT, @tender pelican MQ, then again with FF1, Artiks with Wind Waker, Me with Factorio, @wet field , Llisandur with OoS and LADX, @cold valve, @sage dawn , and @lament tusk at first.
Included are the spoiler log, the log file and the output file:
I will return with another one in August if you're interested. Meanwhile, Artiks expressed interest in arranging a similar event so keep your eyes peeled
OOTMM Sign up
I'm hosting an OOTMM multiworld for July. OOTMM is a rando that combines Ocarina and Majoras Mask into one game https://ootmm.com/multiworld. It's very similar to playing archipelago with some key differences.
-There's no console to release items in case you have to stop playing, so you should be pretty confident that you can play. Worst case scenario someone else can take over your file.
-There's unfortunately no automatic tracking or website tracker so everyone will be required to use Emotracker to manually keep track of their checks, otherwise we will definitely get stuck.
-Everyone plays with the same settings. There's a lot more settings in this than OoT AP and I will be using the ones I believe will make this the most fun.
-Since everyone is playing the same game you can actually see the items you pick up in the game instead of just "Archipelago item" which I think adds a lot of fun to the experience.
I'll ping those I believe have shown interest already but anyone here is welcome to join. @wet field @lament tusk @sage dawn @fiery mason.
Please click the
reaction if you want to join. I'd like to start already tomorrow so we have the chance to play together on sunday, but if you need more time just let me know.
ill need you to remind me how to set it up but im down
just click that link and it explains
duh
thx
I will pass for this month
I'm in
I think for July I'll just focus on elden ring
I have never played MM so I think I'll also stay out for July.
Understandable
i will set it up tomorrow morning / noon. I don't think we will get any more players but 4 is a good number, same as last time.
of course if anyone does want to join say the word before then
If you have played before, make sure you get the newest multiworld client and project64-EM. We all want to be on the same version
*Emotracker settings
Starting items
Important seed settings to be aware of:
- Because of how Majoras Mask time system works, the game is not in logic until you have obtained the Ocarina of time (MM) and Song of time (MM). You can still go to MM, and in some cases your song of time will be the song you get when first entering MM, but none of the other checks are in logic and you won't be able to reset the cycle before you have those two items.
- MM Clocks are shuffled. I believe we start with the first day. Before you get more clocks you have to reset time before the first day ends otherwise you game over and lose your progress.
- Ocarina buttons are shuffled, but shared between games.
- Dungeon entrances are shuffled across both games.
- Once you have the ocarina of time, you can time travel by playing the song of time, and some checks might require you to do so.
- You can use warp songs across both games, so song of soaring to clock town is an easy way to get to the market in OoT.
Emotracker can not account for dungeon entrance shuffle so you will have to keep that in mind.
Player 1: Artiks
Player 2: Lootman
Player 3: Meganought
Player 4: Yay899
To start playing and sending/receiving items, you need to do the following:
Start the multiworld client (download link above)
Start Project64-EM
Open your multiworld ROM inside Project64-EM
Inside Project64-EM, go to File -> Lua Scripts and start the built-in script called "adapter.lua"
@midnight depotcan you pin this
thanks
sorry flitter cant pin it anymore
the game is generating right now.
@sage dawn @fiery mason make sure you read the emotracker settings and info above before starting ๐
there still no auto tracker?
i think i need an updated bizhawk too, i cant see some of the setting you marked
the pictures I posted are emotracker
thats what i meant, sorry
the little cloud on the top right should be light up for you
and say "updates available" or something
oooh thx
ye thanks
right, think i got emotracker set up
i will have more questions later, i remember most of this but its been 6 months since we last played and i did it only once
but theres less of us i think, and we've all played at least once
we were 4 last time too right
me, you, flitter, chip
To start playing and sending/receiving items, you need to do the following:
Start the multiworld client (download link above)
Start Project64-EM
Open your multiworld ROM inside Project64-EM
Inside Project64-EM, go to File -> Lua Scripts and start the built-in script called "adapter.lua"
you need to have multiclient open in the background
well yeah, just AP needed the AP website too
the game stretches to widescreen when I open fullscreen even though my settings are 4:3
it full screens to the wrong screen for me
changing full screen resolution from 640 x 480 to 1440 x 1080 fixed it
i dont want N64 graphics stretched to 4K
thats epic
lol
i got the adults wallet already
im trying to send you an item to see if its working but no player 3 stuff yet
im just trying to stop the audio crackling, i think the game isnt running at full speed
great!
no DUN DUN DUN DUUUUUUN and big screen info panel thing tho, just a little quiet ditty
yeah cause its a consumable stick not an upgrade
im just used to AP, where it would do that
hm my guy wont crawl
can ytou see a fire near the sword hole?
yeah a white one
thats awesome!
can you crawl lol
yeah
๐คฆโโ๏ธ
theres no free crawl
me after 1 month of wind waker
another boomerang
ok boomer
I ALMOST wanna regenerate the seed because of the targeting but im sure ill get used to it
?
if you target something it gets locked even if you let go of the button
should I just restart
yes please
can we get different outfits or do we need to use the same one?
its a random color
i was default green by chance then :(
ye i was yellow
are we generating a new game then?
yes its working
as in its working on the generation
it only went to like 70 last time
oh ok, thanks for the update
it went through on 220
alrighty! time to start again
everything seems to be working for me
im default green again :(
i ment you sent a refil and i got them
oh
wooow bombs
thats huge
maybe we dont start with any clocks
i got your sword in this shop ill get that first
let me see what happens when I go to MM with no clocks
hmm it does let me play in MM on day 1
oh sword! thank you
im a bit distracted, forgot i needed to have a phonecall for an hour or so
ooh i got myself a magic bean for mm
totally critical item
thanks for the mm bow
is the hero's bow any use?
also can i get a key of who is which player is who? just so i know if i found your bow or yay's bow etc
i forget otherwise
i know you're player one
mm bombs for player 4
its pinned
might have been edited in after you read


