#Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer

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midnight depot
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It's okay she's evil

shy oyster
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do you like Gwynevere

wet field
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I hardly know 'er!

shy oyster
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do you like her

midnight depot
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Oh if you finish Dark Souls 1 you should find out the truth about Gwynevere

wet field
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How can I like that which I hardly know

shy oyster
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what do you mean the truth

midnight depot
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It's best if you find out by yourself

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Do not look it up

shy oyster
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how do i find out

midnight depot
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I'll tell you when it's time

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You'll want to collect the lord souls and beat the DLC first

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Hello, @here! I'm starting a special short edition of the Manechat Asynchronous Archipelago Game, with the intent of running until the end of June. If you're interested, please read the list of available games https://archipelago.gg/games and pick one or more games to run, then ping me so I can keep track of you and help you out with any problems. (Unsupported games are also OK.)
The game will start June 15th or whenever everyone interested is ready. Last month's players are invited, as well as everyone else. If you're not interested in running this month please let me know.

In order to join, I will need the YAML files for whatever games you want to play. Talk to me if you have any questions or concerns.

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I will be joining with Factorio and OoT.

cold valve
sage dawn
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Oh shit they added megaman battle network.

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I should play that so I can do it in archepelago

midnight depot
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Hell yeah

sage dawn
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Also have death link on if anyone wants me to kill them

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This will either be really short or really long lol

midnight depot
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Oh nice

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For this OoT run, I'm going to keep gold skulltula tokens local, and make it a requirement to find like 85 of them to get Ganon's Boss key

sage dawn
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Oh nice that sounds pretty enat

midnight depot
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Are you sure you can finish all of these in time? Remember that we have to finish by July

tender pelican
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Shouldn't be a problem.

midnight depot
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Okay, I'll add them to the pile. Good luck, and make sure they all start up properly in archipelago just in case

tender pelican
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Only one I was worried aobut was Oracle of Seasons since I had to hand-make the yaml, and I already made a couple of test generations.

midnight depot
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Oh, you can't use the example template?

tender pelican
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Yes there's a template, but there's no editor for the template.

weary lagoon
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thinking about joining this one

sage dawn
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Doooo ittttt

midnight depot
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Hi

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I have the following games already

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It's the end of the 13th. We'll start on the fifteenth

fresh hill
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I think I'll skip this round

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aside from generally low motivation after a bunch of other stuff, surgery planned on the 18th makes it a very bad idea anyway

tender pelican
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Good luck with that.

midnight depot
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Good luck

cold valve
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Good luck

midnight depot
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Okay, generation succeeds but

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Progression balancing kept failing

midnight depot
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Is anyone else playing? If no one else is playing we can start as soon as I have a YAML from Kratta and Artiks, as well as word from Llisandur

tender pelican
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I was seeing if my brother wanted to join. I sent him the lists of games.

midnight depot
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Oh nice

lament tusk
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I'll play subnautica again

tender pelican
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I'm looking into the file, but I'm not really sure how to fix it. It's like FF1 where it generates the yaml and rom together.

midnight depot
midnight depot
lament tusk
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this should be the yaml you need
its the same as the last 30 times ive done this, theres not a lot of options in subnautica outside of creature scans and im far too lazy to do those

midnight depot
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Excellent. Seems to work fine

tender pelican
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Well, if they can tell you how to make it work then great, otherwise we'll just leave it off for this time.

midnight depot
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@tender pelican Can you do this? #1063559984148906035 message (Turn on chronosanity to see if it fixes the problem)

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I'd do it myself but I'd have to get the game ROM

tender pelican
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Nope, still doesn't work, same problem. First time I tried it crashed somewhere, second time it just did the same thing as before.

wet field
midnight depot
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Time to experiment with adding QoL mods to Factorio and seeing if I can play with them

midnight depot
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Why do I have 160 mods in my mod folder

tender pelican
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Sounds like Skyrim?

midnight depot
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No for Skyrim it's more like a thousand

tender pelican
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Lol. True.

midnight depot
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Why is this a mod?

tender pelican
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"it has very nice animations" lmao.

wet field
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Happy birthday @lament tusk

midnight depot
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This guy on the archipelago server

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#731205301818359821 message

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Pings mods and the server owner, asking them for proof that they legally dumped roms from their own cartridges

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One of the mods shows off his hardware

weary lagoon
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hmm

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which games should I join with?

midnight depot
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Oracle of Seasons

weary lagoon
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only real games please

midnight depot
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OoT is a classic

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I'm experimenting with different item link behavior

weary lagoon
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i could run back my 3 games from the cancelled run

midnight depot
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Instead of finding two gold skulltula tokens each time you find one, the original will be replaced with a rupee (or maybe more rupees)

midnight depot
sage dawn
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Oracle of Seasons is a real game :c

weary lagoon
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No I quit that game when I accidentally got some stupid ass dinosaur instead of the really cool kangaroo

sage dawn
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LOL

weary lagoon
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you might need this flitter its the new ap world for WIND WAKER GREATEST GAME OF ALL TIME

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since this is a 2 week game ive decided to turn off sunken treasures

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will I be good running on AP 0.4.6

weary lagoon
tender pelican
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Unfortunately I wasn't able to draw in any extra people this time. Maybe next time.

midnight depot
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Hi

cold valve
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Hello

midnight depot
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Oh wait someone actually made it a game

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I still need an apworld to generate it anyway

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Looks like we're almost ready to go!

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We can start as soon as Kratta is ready

weary lagoon
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hey

midnight depot
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Ah the apworld fails to generate so I guess we can't include it

midnight depot
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Correction: we can start as soon as I'm not in bed

midnight depot
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I'm up

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Who the fuck is JKB

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Pin is updated

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Let's play OoT

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Oh but first

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FlitterOoT sent progressive-train-network to FlitterFactory (KF Midos Top Left Chest)
FlitterOoT sent logistic-robotics to FlitterFactory (KF Midos Bottom Right Chest)
FlitterOoT sent Iron Boots to ArtiWW (KF Shop Item 5)

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Ah fuck I have overworld entrance randomizer on

tender pelican
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Oops, lmao.

midnight depot
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It's okay, I set it to random so I just got unlucky

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However, this means I am stuck for now until someone sends me a kokiri sword

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And shield, probably

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Wait no, I have open forest

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Hmm, the spoiler log says forest is closed

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I guess open overworld forces forest to be open

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Gold Skulltula Token rewards: Mambo's Mambo Rom 10, Heart Container Kratta 50, Progressive Sword Artiks 40, Submarine Chart Artiks 20

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Magic for me

tender pelican
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Got the sword right off in LADX where you normally get a shield.

midnight depot
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Thank you for Prelude of Light

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Ruto's letter for me

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Now I have to find the place to redeem it

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FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Unicorn's Cave) to LlisandurOoS (LW Deku Scrub Near Deku Theater Left)

tender pelican
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LlisandurLADX sent Gold Skulltula Token to kroot (Well Heart Piece (Mabe Village))
LlisandurLADX sent Gold Skulltula Token to kroot (Bush Field (Mabe Village))
LlisandurLADX sent Gold Skulltula Token to kroot (Cave Crystal Chest (Mysterious Woods))

midnight depot
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Let's stop here

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FlitterOoT sent progressive-processing to FlitterFactory (Kak GS House Under Construction)
FlitterOoT sent Progressive Feather to LlisandurOoS (Kak GS Skulltula House)

tender pelican
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LlisandurFF1 sent progressive-advanced-electronics to FlitterFactory (King)
LlisandurFF1 sent Small Key (Eagle's Tower) to DrRomLADX (Temple of Fiends - Unlocked Duo 2)
LlisandurFF1 sent Star Piece to JKB (Dwarf Cave - Entrance 2)
LlisandurFF1 sent Goddess Tingle Statue to ArtiWW (Dwarf Cave - Entrance 1)

sage dawn
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I'll start in the morning

tender pelican
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LlisandurOoS sent progressive-automation to FlitterFactory (Horon Village: Vasu's Gift)
LlisandurOoS sent rocket-control-unit to FlitterFactory (Horon Village: Mayor's Gift)

tender pelican
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LlisandurMQ sent Prawn Suit Fragment to Meganoughtica (Level Forest - Old Man)
LlisandurMQ sent Progressive Boots to JKB (Foresta - Rest House Box)
LlisandurMQ sent progressive-electric-energy-distribution to FlitterFactory (Bone Dungeon 1F - Entrance Room Middle Box)
LlisandurMQ sent Nocturne of Shadow to kroot (Focus Tower 1F - Main Lobby Box)

weary lagoon
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Early Silver Chains for my Hogans Castle. Gonna be really handy in castle 3

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oh JKB is the Paper Mario dev

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I guess I forgot to change name in the yaml

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can I nickname?

cold valve
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sweet, let's play ladx

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i start with bombs

tender pelican
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LlisandurOoS sent Propulsion Cannon Fragment to Meganoughtica (Horon Village: Item Behind Cracked Wall in Mayor's House)
LlisandurOoS sent Small Key (Catfish's Maw) to DrRomLADX (Hero's Cave: Alternative Entrance Chest)

cold valve
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DrRomLADX sent progressive-follower to FlitterFactory (Toadstool (Mysterious Woods))

weary lagoon
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hm

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the USB for my gamecube controller seems to have been squashed somehow

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I wonder if I can play wind waker on xbox controller

cold valve
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i am BK'd

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turns out there's not much you can do on a bombs start

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i only found seashells lol

tender pelican
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Same with just sword start.

cold valve
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i don't have the ability to get rupees cuz bushes don't drop those when you blow them up

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otherwise i could do the fishing game

tender pelican
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Lol. I didn't check the shop. I'll do it later. XD

cold valve
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my shop is mr. write's house

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and the trendy game is the damp cave

tender pelican
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Ah, I didn't do entrance randomizer.

cold valve
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and the doghouse is the hookshot cave

tender pelican
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I found my pegasus boots in another game, but I don' think that unlocks anything yet.

cold valve
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there's a tree bonk outside tail cave

tender pelican
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Ah. Well, I'll do it tomorrow.

weary lagoon
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ok xbox works for wind waker

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the only downside is it doesnt have the pressure sensitive shoulder buttons that the GC controller has, but I dont know how many games use that outside of mario sunshine

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Kokiri Sword for Flitter (lucky bastard)

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ah fuck me I forgot to do song of passing as a starting item

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thats so bad

midnight depot
weary lagoon
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I bought Kroot an ocarina at an auction

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the starting bid was 5 rupees and I had to go all the way up to 57 so he better appreciate it

midnight depot
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Let's play Factorio

weary lagoon
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how do I nickname?

midnight depot
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Uh

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While connected do !alias newname

weary lagoon
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poooog I got Watt

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im not sure why but my tracker thinks I can do nothing

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wait it thinks I have done 424 checks

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of course paper mario updated for the first time in 2 months the day after we start

midnight depot
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I accidentally set trees way too high

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The whole world is a dense forest

weary lagoon
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i should probably buy flitters ocarina

midnight depot
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It would give me a convenient path to temple of time!

weary lagoon
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im winning

midnight depot
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My first check

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FlitterFactory found their progressive-automation (AP-1-002)

lament tusk
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time to crash a starship and be the lone survivor

midnight depot
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Hi. What's most pressing among these?
Progressive Hammer for Artiks, Moonpool Fragment for Meganought

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Ah shit, I typed !hint to see what hints cost me

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And it printed hundreds of hints into my console

lament tusk
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why? thats weird

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moonpool isnt urgent but i will need it, arti needs hammer sooner rather than later, thats a lot of unlocks

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and damagr

midnight depot
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My game hints every check

weary lagoon
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Hammer is the main attack in the game.

lament tusk
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eyah, important

midnight depot
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My little setup is chugging along

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Hammer sent

weary lagoon
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good thing I didnt leave lava lava island

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now I can hit the 18 coconut trees there

midnight depot
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Oh yeah, let me explain how hints in Factorio work in detail:
Factorio is a game where all research is shown from the start. Archipelago puts checks in your research, therefore all checks are visible from the start. The format is as follows:
FlitterOoT's Weird Egg is at AP-5-620 in FlitterFactory's World. (not found)

lament tusk
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oh that makes sense

midnight depot
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AP-5-620 means it's the 620th check in the fifth branch.

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I have my checks set up to be pyramids

lament tusk
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ah

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neat

midnight depot
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So this will allow me to follow specific lines and ignore other lines, but will still maintain some sort of linearity

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The branch number in this format basically correlates to the depth, so you can check the second number to tell roughly how far into the game that check is

lament tusk
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ooh winwaker magic for arti, thats probably imprtant

midnight depot
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FlitterFactory sent Moonpool Fragment to Meganoughtica (AP-1-349)

lament tusk
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thank

weary lagoon
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I fucking hate factorio

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spoiling the weird egg....

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what a disgrace

lament tusk
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lol

midnight depot
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Maybe I shouldn't have cranked science costs as high as they can go

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Another hammer for Artiks

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Meganoughtica sent Progressive Hammer to Paper Arti (JKB) (Underwater Islands Wreck - Cable Databox)

lament tusk
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the trouble i have with subnautica is that the popup for what i get appears for like half a second, and if im not actively looking at it, i miss what i find, and i cant see it again afterwards

midnight depot
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Just have a client open on the side

lament tusk
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yeah i could do that

midnight depot
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FlitterFactory sent Bomb Bag to FlitterOoT (AP-1-862)

weary lagoon
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oh wow super boots and super hammer already

lament tusk
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hell yeah

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now we're all waiting on you to get checks, so hurry up

midnight depot
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FlitterFactory sent Small Key Ring (Ganons Castle) to FlitterOoT (AP-1-397)

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I will stop here

lament tusk
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bk mode, got every check available to me now

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could squeeze a few more out but im done with the intended checks

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i think to get the next stuff i'd need 3 mobile vehical bay fragments and 3 seamoth fragments

tender pelican
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LlisandurLADX sent construction-robotics to FlitterFactory (Two Zol, Moblin Chest (Mysterious Woods))
LlisandurLADX sent Boo Record to Paper Arti (JKB) (Moblin Cave (Tal Tal Heights))
LlisandurLADX sent Power Star to yay899SM64 (Tail Key Chest (Mysterious Woods))
LlisandurLADX sent progressive-science-pack to FlitterFactory (Dream Hut West (Mabe Village))
LlisandurLADX sent Small Key (Key Cavern) to DrRomLADX (Rock Seashell (Donut Plains))
LlisandurLADX sent Magnifying Glass to DrRomLADX (Lone Bush (Martha's Bay))
LlisandurLADX sent Fool's Ore to LlisandurOoS (Rock Seashell (Yarna Desert))
LlisandurLADX sent Boomerang to DrRomLADX (Trendy Game (Mabe Village))
LlisandurLADX sent Gold Skulltula Token to kroot (Two Socket Chest (Color Dungeon))
LlisandurLADX sent Iron Pot to LlisandurOoS (Lower Small Key (Color Dungeon))
LlisandurLADX sent Small Key (Sword & Shield Dungeon) to LlisandurOoS (Upper Small Key (Color Dungeon))

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LlisandurOoS sent Empty Bottle to ArtiWW (North Horon: Chest Across Bridge)

tender pelican
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LlisandurFF1 sent Small Key (Bottom of the Well) to kroot (Nerrick)
LlisandurFF1 sent Jade Raven to Paper Arti (JKB) (Marsh Cave Top (B1) - Duo 1)

sage dawn
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Which Zelda game do you need rupees in? If it's OoT you don't need sword for rupees

weary lagoon
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hes playing links awakening

sage dawn
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Ooh damn

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I do not have encyclopedic knowledge of any Zelda game that isn't OoT :c

weary lagoon
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maybe thats why rupees for links awakening are marked as progression

sage dawn
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Oh could be

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I gotta update my sm64 setup and then I'll be on

midnight depot
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As a certified lazy person please send me any rupees you find in OoT so I don't have to farm them

sage dawn
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Do you have adult?

weary lagoon
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yay could you try finding my song of passing or a sword

sage dawn
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Because killing children as adult is way faster than farming bridge as child

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Lol I have no idea what is where. SM64 has no indication

midnight depot
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Oh yeah I never did that

sage dawn
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I'm just gonna collect shit

midnight depot
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How do you kill skull kids?

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I heard they drop unique orange rupees

sage dawn
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Nah that's just what gold rupees look like

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You can't jump slash or crouch stab them or them backflip away and disappear

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Just normal sword slash

midnight depot
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Oh I kept trying to shoot them with a bow or throw bombs at them

weary lagoon
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ill stick to the cow grotto

sage dawn
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Ooh yeah can't do that

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Deku nuts don't work either

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I always shuffle grottos so I forget about farming in that grotto

midnight depot
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In this seed I have overworld shuffle and dungeon shuffle but interior shuffle didn't roll

sage dawn
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Mixed pools?

midnight depot
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I don't understand the question

sage dawn
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are the pools of entrances mixed

midnight depot
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No that's not an option

sage dawn
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Actually wait does the version archepelago is branched from even support that?

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Okay

midnight depot
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We're stuck on OotTr 7

sage dawn
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Makes sense

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I don't think mixed pools is even on the main dev branch to be fair

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But yeah that makes overworld entrance rando less of a nightmare

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Also wow it takes forever to download and then compile the entire sm64 archepelago repos who could have guessed

midnight depot
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It's crazy that SM64 still requires you to compile it

sage dawn
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They can't distribute the actual source code for the game

midnight depot
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Just make it a patch or something

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Like any other ROM game

sage dawn
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Oh it's based on the PC port of SM64

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It doesn't run in emulator

midnight depot
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I see

sage dawn
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What's the port?

midnight depot
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53303

weary lagoon
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53303

midnight depot
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Should be in the pins

sage dawn
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Sorry it's been a while so I forgot if we used the pins

weary lagoon
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chat is this real?

midnight depot
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Oops

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I did 9% last game and updated the 9 but forgot the other number

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It's 10 and 10

sage dawn
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Lol not being able to do any moves but single jump and wall kick is wild

weary lagoon
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i got you that wall kick ๐Ÿ˜Ž

sage dawn
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Thank you thank you

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Okay, move rando is really interesting.

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Just realized I can't get jrb hundred without ground pound

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There are so few coins there the blue coin switch is required.

weary lagoon
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i need this @midnight depot it has the power to turn day to night

sage dawn
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Turns out JRB eight reds with only wall kicks is really hard and also it was only a recovery heart

weary lagoon
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it sounds like a really interesting way to explore sm64

sage dawn
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Yeah! I'm really enjoying it!

cold valve
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let's play ladx

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thanks for the numerous stuff!

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DrRomLADX sent Cannon Unlock WF to yay899SM64 (Fishing Game Heart Piece (Mabe Village))

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DrRomLADX sent Cyclops Bridge Fragment to Meganoughtica (Tail Key Chest (Mysterious Woods))

sage dawn
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I think I might be in BK mode now, but I'm not entirely sure because I don't know what the move rando logic is for some things

cold valve
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DrRomLADX sent Gerudo Membership Card to FlitterOoT (Four Zol Chest (Tail Cave))

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DrRomLADX sent Sky Fragment to LlisandurMQ (Two Stalfos, Two Keese Chest (Tail Cave))

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DrRomLADX sent Star Piece to Paper Arti (JKB) (Spark, Mini-Moldorm Chest (Tail Cave))

sage dawn
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@midnight depot Sideflip would open up a lot and it's in your factorio game

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AP-3-821

cold valve
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DrRomLADX sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Bombable Wall Seashell Chest (Tail Cave))

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man, still need 3 more checks for a hint

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i guess there's a bunch already out there, but none of them are immediately needed; the nightmare keys and key cavern keys and shovel are the only ones i will care about

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i am not technically BK'd but there is one check that would use a bottle grotto key for no further dungeon progression so i will hold onto it for now

sage dawn
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Yeah all factorio stuff is already hinted because the research tree tells you every check you can get.

cold valve
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i learned a while ago that i need to hint for my feather as soon as i can

fresh hill
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I had no idea Factorio auto-hinted its whole research tree; considering how much people complain about spammy shop hints that's a surprise

cold valve
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Looks kinda like this

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who cares about spammy shop hints?

fresh hill
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I assume it's a more legitimate problem in games larger than ours

sage dawn
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Oh shit there are games that auto-hint shops?

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and honestly it's not too bad on larger games.

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I've got like 160 or so checks and only this many hints

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Granted I guess SM64 hint lists are easier to parse just because most of them are power stars lol

wet field
cold valve
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that's the control station for one of the cryo-electron microscopes at work

wet field
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Scopin

fresh hill
weary lagoon
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Paper Mario!

fresh hill
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the line I'm used to from the AP server is that Stardew Valley doesn't auto-hint because it would be too spammy (I don't play that)

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and every so often there's a question of if we had this that and the other hint-related feature would it start auto-hinting (though I don't think the devs ever directly answered this, especially recently since they've got the 1.6 update to worry about)

sage dawn
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I've only really played OoT and SM64, and I don't think OoT has autohinting because it has a seperate hint system

weary lagoon
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i think oot printing the shops you visit to hints would be fine

fresh hill
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for all I know OoT might predate the current hint system, it doesn't feel like one of the most active randos on the dev side

weary lagoon
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I dont think oot has been updated since we started playing

sage dawn
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Also pretty much all of OoT is just forced from the standalone rando with minor changes to work with Archepelago

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*forked

tender pelican
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LlisandurMQ sent Small Key (Shadow Temple) to kroot (Focus Tower 3F - River Door Box)
LlisandurMQ sent Small Key (Angler's Tunnel) to DrRomLADX (Path to Fireburg Central Battlefield)
LlisandurMQ sent Magic Powder to DrRomLADX (Fireburg - Hidden Tunnel Box)
LlisandurMQ sent Master's Plaque to LlisandurOoS (Fireburg - Vendor)
LlisandurMQ sent Cannon Unlock THI to yay899SM64 (Mine Battlefield)
LlisandurMQ sent Cannon Unlock WDW to yay899SM64 (Sealed Temple - West Box)

sage dawn
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Oh sick I can probably get one more star in WDW now

cold valve
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walt disney world

sage dawn
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Indeed

tender pelican
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LlisandurOoS sent Ice Trap to FlitterOoT (Horon Village: Tick Tock Trade)

tender pelican
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LlisandurOoS sent Face Key to LlisandurLADX (North Horon: Blaino's Gym Prize)
LlisandurOoS sent Small Key (Spirit Temple) to kroot (Sunken City: Master's Plaque Trade)
LlisandurOoS sent Ice Trap to FlitterOoT (Woods of Winter: Chest in Cave Behind Rockslide)
LlisandurOoS sent Ice Trap to FlitterOoT (Woods of Winter: Chest in Waterfall Cave)
LlisandurOoS sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Eastern Suburbs: Item in Windmill Cave)
LlisandurOoS sent Small Key (Eagle's Tower) to DrRomLADX (Snake's Remains: Chest Left from Entrance)
LlisandurOoS found their Small Key (Sword & Shield Dungeon) (Snake's Remains: Drop in Left Rope Room)
LlisandurOoS sent Power Star to yay899SM64 (Woods of Winter: Chest on D2 Roof)
LlisandurOoS sent Bombchus to FlitterOoT (Subrosia: Chest Above Magnet Cave)
LlisandurOoS sent Laser Cutter Fragment to Meganoughtica (Subrosia: Buried Bomb Flower)
LlisandurOoS sent Bottle with Blue Potion to kroot (Subrosia: Dance Hall Reward)

midnight depot
midnight depot
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Hi

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Let's play OoT

tender pelican
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Sorry for the multiple ice traps.

midnight depot
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I have zero heart containers. You can't just kill me like that

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Thanks for stone of agony, kokiri sword, fairy ocarina, din's fire, deku shield, bomb bag, ganon's castle key ring, nocturne of shadow, fire temple key ring, bottom of the well key ring, gerudo membership card, bombchus, and two deaths with ice traps

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Within my deku tree is the hallowed deku tree interior

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FlitterOoT sent Gold Leaf to DrRomLADX (Deku Tree GS Basement Gate)
FlitterOoT sent Wakewater to LlisandurMQ (Deku Tree GS Basement Vines)```
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Time to look up how to do the B1 skip again

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I'm getting a lot faster at it

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Boss down

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Hint: My Slingshot is in LlisandurLADX's right lava chest (turtle rock)

tender pelican
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I can't get up there yet.

midnight depot
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What do you need to get there? A slingshot would be nice

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FlitterOoT sent Star Piece to Paper Arti (JKB) (HF Near Market Grotto Chest)

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Within Jabu Jabu's belly lies the mammoth construct known as bottom of the well

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FlitterOoT sent Star Piece to Paper Arti (JKB) (Bottom of the Well Fire Keese Chest)```
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You'd better appreciate that star piece. I had to burn my shield to get it

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Within Shadow Temple lies King Dodongo and his cult

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Hint: My wallet is in yay's Bob Omb Buddy

cold valve
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let's catch up on ladx

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thanks for stuff, nothing that opens any checks though

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i have enough bottle grotto keys to get to the boss now so any extra and i can get side checks

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT found their Hover Boots (Dodongos Cavern Compass Chest)

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Slingshot skip 1 done

cold valve
lament tusk
midnight depot
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Slingshot skip 2 done

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This one is way, way harder as child than as adult link

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Thankfully I had savestates

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King Dodongo had my Megaton Hammer!

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Hold on, what?

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I had 99 rupees, but managed to buy three of this

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35x3 = 105

lament tusk
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Hax

midnight depot
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I guess the game doesn't keep a separate counter for how many rupees you have other than the visual one

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So I was able to buy one more as my rupees were decrementing

lament tusk
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Oh that makes sense? Maybe?

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Moosh's Flute to LlisandurOoS (Kak GS Watchtower)

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Within Dodongo's Cavern lies the ravenous belly of Jabu Jabu

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I will have to stop now because it's apparently Eid Al Adha and I have to talk to people

midnight depot
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Hi I'm back for more

sage dawn
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When checking if you can make a purchase or when saving it uses the visual one yeah.

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I think it will still deduct the right amount but it can't go below zero

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So sometimes you can scam something like that and also be careful to not save warp while the count is going up

midnight depot
#

That makes sense

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FlitterOoT sent Progressive Shield to DrRomLADX (ZD Shop Item 6)

sage dawn
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Other fun fact, faores wind doesn't go away until the particle effect completely fades away, so if you save right after warping the warp point will still be there when you reload.

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Which is kind of a niche thing but can be useful sometimes.

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Mainly in rando which has cross dungeon warps

midnight depot
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Warps are vanilla here, so farore's wind has like... one use

sage dawn
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Although I think pre light node hundo might use it

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No I mean you can activate it in one dungeon to travel to the dungeon where you set the warp

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In vanilla that doesn't work.

midnight depot
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Right, but in this randomizer I'm pretty sure it's vanilla behavior

sage dawn
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It's forked from the standalone oot rando so it shouldn't be.

midnight depot
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I see

sage dawn
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You should be able to set a child warp point and an adult warp point and be able to warp to them from any dungeon.

midnight depot
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Time to fill up the entrance tracker so I can properly navigate

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FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Key Cavern) to LlisandurLADX (GC Shop Item 6)

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FlitterOoT sent Slime Key to LlisandurLADX (GC Pot Freestanding PoH)

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FlitterOoT sent Progressive Slingshot to LlisandurOoS (GV Crate Freestanding PoH)

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Fucking

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I had to do this fight as child link with three hearts and ten sticks

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This should be illegal

tender pelican
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Hm, slingshot. That might let me use seeds. Or I can't use it until I get a seed bag. I don't remember.

midnight depot
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@sage dawn do you know how I can reach the gold skulltula next to the boss without a boomerang? Tracker says it's reachable

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Ah wait, it changed its mind. Sorry to bother you

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This means I'm in BK mode.

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Leads: Bolero of Fire unlocks a dungeon, song of time unlocks Adult Link, Song of Storms unlocks a dungeon, Weird Egg unlocks Zelda's Letter, Requiem of Spirit Unlocks a dungeon,

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Since I am at 26% I have two hints. I'll hint song of time

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[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Song of Time is at Bomb Island - Submarine in ArtiWW's World. (not found)

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And Song of Storms

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[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Song of Storms is at Eastern Fairy Island - Lookout Platform - Defeat the Cannons and Enemies in ArtiWW's World. (not found)

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Both in @weary lagoon's WW world.

midnight depot
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Let's Play Factorio

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I'm going to plan a simple factory that makes green and red science packs. No room for expansion

tender pelican
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Left or right?

midnight depot
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Left

tender pelican
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Left was LlisandurOoS sent Red Rupee to ArtiWW (Horon Village: Advance Shop #1)

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I'll get the others later when I get money.

tender pelican
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Several checks with the slingshot, but only one progression item for others so far.
LlisandurOoS sent Letter to Merlon to Paper Arti (JKB) (Snake's Remains: Chest in Rollers Section)
LlisandurOoS sent Ice Trap to FlitterOoT (Snake's Remains: Chest in Bomb Spiral Maze Room)

sage dawn
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*to the boss

midnight depot
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Smart. Thanks

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I should definitely have thought of the megaflip

sage dawn
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I honestly always do the biri hover. I've never been able to hit that megaflip

midnight depot
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I should probably learn how to ISG

sage dawn
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Yeah, or at the very least broken stick

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Would help you deal with being swordless better.

midnight depot
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Broken stick is easy because I keep accidentally getting it

sage dawn
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I swear the moment you actually want to get it it's suddenly impossible lol

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But yeah as far as the megaflip goes there's a very position precise one from the edge of the platform near where you enter the room, and a very timing precise one from on top of the elevator.

midnight depot
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Thanks again for the help

sage dawn
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No problem

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I'm glad to that I can put years of watching rando to sleep to use

midnight depot
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Oh so you drop the stuff in the bottle the moment you press the button, and that delays the button long enough for you to walk in

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It does look way easier than ocarina item

sage dawn
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You essentially just replace the cutscene of the button depressing with another cutscene

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Both OI and emptying a bottle that's already in your hands pulls this off

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The latter method is just OI but you're not doing the additional step that makes that cutscene pulling ocarina

midnight depot
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Can you use Ocarina Items to unfreeze king zora like you can do with a bottle?

sage dawn
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Maybe? I think that glitch more has to do with loading him while a text box is on screen though

midnight depot
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Oh yeah, it requires a cutscene item or the sign

sage dawn
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Yeah

midnight depot
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But it doesn't work with Navi, does it?

sage dawn
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Does navi text move the camera?

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Because the sign and cutscene item both function on the fact that they pan the camera

midnight depot
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I think it does in some situations but I'm not sure

sage dawn
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Maybe then

midnight depot
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The green and red science facility is finally operational

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Time to get everything in the green and red categories

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Let's see

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Dragon Key sounds important

midnight depot
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FlitterFactory sent Dragon Key to LlisandurOoS (AP-2-339)

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FlitterFactory sent Seashell to LlisandurLADX (AP-1-539)

midnight depot
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In order to reach it, I think I need one or two progressive military checks sent to me, because none are accessible right now

tender pelican
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Most of my stuff is blocked. I'll see if that key unlocks anything.

midnight depot
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I'm making good progress in Factorio, but it'll take a while

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Kratta will probably be able to find some things

tender pelican
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Nothing obvious yet. I did find a ton of money so I'll go buy shop items.

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LlisandurOoS sent Piece of Heart to FlitterOoT (Horon Village: Advance Shop #2)
LlisandurOoS sent Gold Skulltula Token to kroot (Horon Village: Advance Shop #3)
LlisandurOoS sent Ice Trap to FlitterOoT (Horon Village: Shop #1)
I'm annoyed that I spent 200 rupees on an ice trap.

midnight depot
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Does the game not indicate traps by color?

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I like getting ice traps! That's why I put them in the game

tender pelican
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Don't think so.

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Lol.

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Gasha nut had another 200 rupees. Only need 300 more now to get the last shop item that I can buy with rupees.

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LlisandurOoS sent Ice Trap to FlitterOoT (Horon Village: Shop #3)
Another ice trap. XD

cold valve
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let's catch up on ladx

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thanks for stuff, early blue tunic is nice

weary lagoon
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Hey

midnight depot
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FlitterFactory sent Bombette Upgrade to Paper Arti (JKB) (AP-1-635)

weary lagoon
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I thought I got a bow so I could attack stuff, but it was a quiver

cold valve
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no new checks unfortunately

tender pelican
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Lol. I don't have a sword yet in OoS, so I'm hitting stuff with a rock.

weary lagoon
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I dont have a lot to work with

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I cant get song of storms, maybe song of time

midnight depot
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Song of time would be big, but don't worry about getting it right now

weary lagoon
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I got it right now

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I threw a barrel at at a bokoblin so he dropped his weapon and I cleared the submarine with that

midnight depot
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Hell yeah

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My factorio setup clears ~5000 science an hour, but I need more research unlocked before I can get anything beyond green and red

tender pelican
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LlisandurOoS sent progressive-processing to FlitterFactory (Subrosia: Sign-Loving Guy Reward)
LlisandurOoS sent Honeycomb to LlisandurLADX (Horon Village: Shop #2)

weary lagoon
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holy hell I found a rooster

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thats almost weird egg

tender pelican
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Well, I now have at least one more check for LADX.

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LlisandurLADX sent Ice Trap to FlitterOoT (Bear Cook (Animal Village))
And it's an ice trap.

midnight depot
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Energy shield equipment is marked progression? It's literally junk

weary lagoon
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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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holy hell

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boomerang

midnight depot
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Ah, fuck

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I crashed and lost hours of progress

weary lagoon
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D:

cold valve
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fuck

tender pelican
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Oh no.

midnight depot
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Factory Planner has this crash bug that happens when double clicking

cold valve
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:(

tender pelican
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Hm, I thought I was stuck in FFMQ, but it turns out there's a bunch of chests that I forgot how easy they are to get even with almost no equipment. I am very squishy. :|

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Randomized enemy placement has been very forgiving.

weary lagoon
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ArtiWW sent Dive to yay899SM64 (The Great Sea - Salvage Corp Gift)

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Getting dive from the salvage corp is so epic

tender pelican
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Last chest before the boss was a super powerful near-endgame spell, which allowed me to actually beat the boss. XD

weary lagoon
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Paper Arti (JKB) sent Grappling Hook to ArtiWW (JJ Beach In Palm Tree 5)

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iiinsaaaneee

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Lol I read bow upgrade for Arti and thought I got the wind waker bow

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but its an upgrade for Lady Bow

tender pelican
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Sorry for the trouble. XD I should not post the entire list of progression found items at once. XD

weary lagoon
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no I read it in the console

tender pelican
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Usually people aren't on when I'm playing.

midnight depot
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This server has a lot of trolls so our spam filter has to be strict. I've given you the ability to ignore it but please only use that for this thread

tender pelican
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No problem.

weary lagoon
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oh i misunderstood

tender pelican
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Ugh, having to manually track for FF1 after having the nice autotrackers for the other three games is a pain. I have to actually pay attention to waht was sent to me recently.

midnight depot
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Yeah I don't play games where tracking is a pain

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Even if I like the game

lament tusk
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I don't like games

midnight depot
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Citation needed

weary lagoon
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who is ready for manual tracking in ootmmjuly ๐Ÿ˜Ž

lament tusk
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Oh god

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I'll just remember my checks

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Much easier, no chance for error

weary lagoon
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no you wont brother theres 700

lament tusk
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That was the joke

weary lagoon
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I play without the tracker when solo because ive played them a lot and if I fuck up it doesnt ruin it for anyone else

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but in a multiworld fucking up kinda sucks

lament tusk
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Yeah, agreed
I still remember how I held up the whole game gir a long time because I didn't realise I could get a gold skull on the fire arrow island in hylia as a kid
Held one of the most important progression items at the time...

tender pelican
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LlisandurFF1 sent Star Piece to Paper Arti (JKB) (Earth Cave Giant's Floor (B1) - Appendix 2)
LlisandurFF1 sent Magic Rod to DrRomLADX (Earth Cave Giant's Floor (B1) - Side Path 2)
LlisandurFF1 sent Bow to FlitterOoT (Earth Cave (B2) - Side Room 1)
LlisandurFF1 sent Propulsion Cannon Fragment to Meganoughtica (Earth Cave Vampire Floor (B3) - Vampire's Closet)

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Welp, locked on everything again.

midnight depot
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Nice

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Thanks for bow

lament tusk
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One propulsion cannon fragment!
I'm not sure that's strictly necessary, but it is neat

sage dawn
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You all realize the web tracker is automatic right?

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Like it does have the downside of sorting locations alphabetically.

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But at least it's auto

lament tusk
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Ootmm doesn't have that I think, but this is true

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It's just a pain to navigate

midnight depot
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The web tracker automatically tracks checks, yeah

sage dawn
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Wait there's support for OoTMM?

midnight depot
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But it doesn't tell me what's in logic

weary lagoon
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no but we're playing ootmm multiworld next month

sage dawn
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Oooh

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I 100% want in on this when you do

lament tusk
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I 50% want in on this when you do

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I'll only play oot

sage dawn
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Unfortunately not an option

weary lagoon
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When they add support for seperate settings you can do that

lament tusk
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(I was joking)

weary lagoon
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OOOTMM does support only playing OoT

midnight depot
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OoTMM archipelago is in progress but not done yet

weary lagoon
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its also on the backburner apparently

sage dawn
#

Yeah that could take a bit considering that rando is still in pretty active development

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It's also got some big restrictions on what emulators it'll actually run on

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Like the transition between games takes a solid minute on bizhawk for some reason

midnight depot
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OoT for AP only runs on Bizhawk

sage dawn
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Yep

weary lagoon
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i think its already accounted for and will run on project 64

sage dawn
#

I wish they'd just fix it for bizhawkkkk

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PJ64 sucksssss

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I know this because I have played a lot of OoTMM on PJ64

midnight depot
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Most people in the archipelago threads complain about how Bizhawk sucks

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(most people are not tech savvy)

weary lagoon
#

What is Pj64 missing except for fast forward

sage dawn
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None of the standard graphics plugins work right, and the best one has massive screen flickering when streaming on discord unless you start the stream before loading the rom

weary lagoon
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I see.

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I use a custom pj64 which was made by some Majoras Mask Rando dev and it looks really good

sage dawn
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Nice!

midnight depot
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I ate too much cake

sage dawn
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I'm on the build specified in the multiworld setup for OoTMM

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Share cake

#

gib

midnight depot
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Pretty sure this one slice of velvet cheesecake has 1200 calories

sage dawn
#

Sounds like cheesecake

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It's so good though

midnight depot
#

I ate nothing else the whole day and I'm stuffed

sage dawn
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Don't lie down or you'll get nauseous.

lament tusk
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I need cake

sage dawn
#

Also I haven't eaten in like 24 hours which turns out to be a problem

lament tusk
#

Oh yeah
Food are good

sage dawn
#

I maybe just sort of forgot about it and I don't have anything to cook in the fridge because I've been hella depressed

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But now it's morning so I can door dash

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haha

lament tusk
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Oh I'm sorry to hear that

lament tusk
sage dawn
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Downside of SM64 is not having a console to copy paste out of

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I got medicine for someone, as I think the only check I really have available at the moment

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And I'm at the bare minimum requirements to get it so it might be the end of a sphere

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Unless it's Final Fantasy medicine in which case it's junk

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But if it's zelda that's a trade item

midnight depot
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You can open the text tracker in a background menu to keep an eye out on incoming and outgoing checks

sage dawn
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Oh shit yeah

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Iii might not have the generic client installed

midnight depot
#

I think there's a web client someone made

cold valve
#

Ladx medicine is basically a fairy bottle

#

Very good to have if you haven't been sent many extra hearts yet

sage dawn
#

Damn

midnight depot
#

Oh yeah

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I could use a fairy bottle to find out what's in death mountain crater

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Situation: I have one entrance to DMC from Darunia's side. I have 3 hearts, giving me 24 seconds. This is not long enough for me to reach the upper entrance. The upper entrance is definitely something I haven't seen.

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So unless I get a heart container tomorrow or something, I'm going to try using a fairy to power through the death

weary lagoon
#

Koops as an item in the overworld

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Kooper*

lament tusk
#

Lol

cold valve
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oh wow, the rooster and the power bracelet (and others)! the world is my oyster now

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DrRomLADX sent Nightmare Key (Catfish's Maw) to LlisandurLADX (Boots Pit (Kanalet Castle))

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DrRomLADX sent Slingshot to FlitterOoT (Two Zol, Moblin Chest (Mysterious Woods)) @midnight depot

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DrRomLADX sent Star Piece to Paper Arti (JKB) (Mad Batter (Martha's Bay))

weary lagoon
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dont worry about the star pieces fellers theyre gold skulltulas

lament tusk
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I worry about them

cold valve
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DrRomLADX sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Cave Crystal Chest (Mysterious Woods))

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DrRomLADX sent Dins Fire to kroot (West of Ghost House Chest (Toronbo Shores))

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DrRomLADX sent Seaglide Fragment to Meganoughtica (East of Seashell Mansion Bush (Ukuku Prairie))

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DrRomLADX sent Progressive Hookshot to kroot (Honeycomb (Ukuku Prairie))

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DrRomLADX sent Bolero of Fire to FlitterOoT (Graveyard Connector (Koholint Prairie))

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DrRomLADX sent Deku Leaf to ArtiWW (Entrance Chest (Color Dungeon))

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DrRomLADX sent Goron Tunic to kroot (Outside Five Chest Game (Tal Tal Mountains))

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DrRomLADX sent Cyclops Hull Fragment to Meganoughtica (Bird Key Cave (Tal Tal Mountains))

lament tusk
#

i need that
i need like 12 more things to actually build a cyclops but its still necessary

cold valve
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DrRomLADX sent Power Star to yay899SM64 (Ghost House Barrel (Martha's Bay))

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@tender pelican [Hint]: DrRomLADX's Feather is at Boots Pit (Kanalet Castle) in LlisandurLADX's World. (not found)
@sage dawn [Hint]: DrRomLADX's Hookshot is at HMC: A-Maze-Ing Emergency Exit in yay899SM64's World at The Princess's Secret Slide. (not found)

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my next hints will be boots and flippers if i don't get them before i have hint points

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@weary lagoon [Hint]: DrRomLADX's Shovel is at TT Gate District Shop Item 5 in Paper Arti (JKB)'s World. (not found) I could use this now if you have spare moneys

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and that's it for me for now

tender pelican
#

Apparently it's possible to get your feather, but I don't think it's likely right now. It apparently requires pit buffering with the pegasus boots, which I only vaguely know how to do. I need the rooster to get it. And I hinted my feather first so I don't have enough checks to see where it is.

cold valve
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i'm 3 points away from another hint, i think i'll do flippers next, then boots, if they're still at large

tender pelican
#

Only check I can do currently is 980 rupees. I can get most of the castle if I get the feather.

cold valve
#

i haven't found my town shop yet

tender pelican
#

Right, randomized entrances. XD

cold valve
#

watch the shop be in like the rooster grave or something that requires later-game stuff

midnight depot
#

Hello

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Let's play OoT

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Thanks for heart container, song of time, a replacement deku shield, fairy bow, zora tunic, another heart container, fairy slingshot, bolero of fire, and two deaths with ice traps

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FlitterOoT sent Progressive Picto Box to ArtiWW (Kak Bazaar Item 5)
FlitterOoT sent Spring Banana to LlisandurOoS (Kak Potion Shop Item 7)

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Bah, turns out it's precise, so I can't just wing it. I'll have to follow the setup literally

#

It's not working out even with the setup. I must be missing something. I'll move on until it's more relevant

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FlitterOoT sent Cyclops Engine Fragment to Meganoughtica (Sheik in Forest)

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Where my goddamn wallet at

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[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Progressive Wallet is at ZR GS Ladder in kroot's World. (not found)

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@wet field if you have the time this would be nice (would allow me to buy stuff at most shops)

#

58 dampe time

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Bombchus for Kroot. This should guarantee ZR GS Ladder is accessible with any access to ZR

#

Ice cavern is water temple

#

Without hookshot, scale, keys or iron boots I can do little here

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FlitterOoT sent Toadstool to LlisandurLADX (GV Chest)

#

Gerudo Training Ground is Shadow Temple

tender pelican
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LlisandurLADX sent Ruby to Meganoughtica (Witch Item (Koholint Prairie))

#

And back to blocked.

midnight depot
#

Without the shadow temple keys I can't do much

tender pelican
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Derp, I hinted the floater but I need the key or canoe first. XD

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Triforce Shard 4 to ArtiWW (Sheik in Crater)

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FlitterOoT sent Angler Key to DrRomLADX (DMC Upper Grotto Chest)

tender pelican
#

FlitterFactory LlisandurFF1 Rod AP-2-583 Factorio Vanilla
Please see if you can get this next time you're on it.

midnight depot
#

Branch 2

#

Should be fine

tender pelican
#

It's the next easy checks that I know where it is for FF1.

midnight depot
#

Oh by the way

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My Zora Shop has LlisandurLADX's Feather for 220

#

Need two more wallets to get it

tender pelican
#

XD

#

I should be able to get DrRom's feather with that.

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Dragon Tingle Statue to ArtiWW (Sheik at Colossus)

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Spirit temple is fire temple

#

With this, I have fully mapped the overworld

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FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Catfish's Maw) to DrRomLADX (Spirit Temple Child Bridge Chest)

#

Turns out keese fucking hate it when you throw deku nuts

midnight depot
#

FlitterOoT sent Gerudo Membership Card to kroot (Fire Temple Boss Key Chest)

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FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Eagle's Tower) to LlisandurLADX (Fire Temple GS Song of Time Room)

midnight depot
tender pelican
#

:D

midnight depot
#

FlitterOoT sent Forbidden Tingle Statue to ArtiWW (Market Bombchu Shop Item 7)

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FlitterOoT sent robotics to FlitterFactory (Market Bombchu Shop Item 5)
FlitterOoT sent Progressive Sword to ArtiWW (Kak 40 Gold Skulltula Reward)

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I think Artiks likes swords

#

With this, I should be in BK mode

#

And I have 40% of checks, so let's do a couple more hints

#

And let's cover all existing hints that allow me to progress

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FlitterOoT's Biggoron Sword is at Hookshot Cave (Mysterious Woods) in LlisandurLADX's World. (not found)
FlitterOoT's Song of Storms is at Eastern Fairy Island - Lookout Platform - Defeat the Cannons and Enemies in ArtiWW's World. (not found)
FlitterOoT's Weird Egg is at AP-5-620 in FlitterFactory's World. (not found)
FlitterOoT's Progressive Wallet is at ZR GS Ladder in kroot's World. (not found)
FlitterOoT's Boss Key (Shadow Temple) is at AP-6-949 in FlitterFactory's World. (not found)
FlitterOoT's Progressive Hookshot is at Spirit Temple Twinrova Heart in kroot's World at Gerudo Fortress -> Gerudo Training Ground Lobby. (not found)```
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Let's take a break, and when I'm back I'll play some Factorio

tender pelican
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LlisandurFF1 sent Progressive Bow to ArtiWW (Ice Cave Incentive Floor (B2) - Major)
LlisandurFF1 sent battery to FlitterFactory (Gurgu Volcano Agama Floor (B4) - Side Room 2)

midnight depot
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Okay

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I've got a setup that should make ~15k science packs an hour, both green and red

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Made a thousand green science packs in five minutes. I like the milestones mod

midnight depot
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FlitterFactory found their progressive-science-pack (AP-2-871)
FlitterFactory sent Moonpool Fragment to Meganoughtica (AP-2-105)
FlitterFactory sent Rod to LlisandurFF1 (AP-2-583)
FlitterFactory sent Letter to Miss T to Paper Arti (JKB) (AP-2-924)
FlitterFactory sent Pouch Upgrade to Paper Arti (JKB) (AP-2-072)
FlitterFactory sent Parakarry Upgrade to Paper Arti (JKB) (AP-2-562)
FlitterFactory sent Bioreactor Fragment to Meganoughtica (AP-2-708)
FlitterFactory found their progressive-speed-module (AP-2-757)
FlitterFactory sent Cyclops Thermal Reactor Module to Meganoughtica (AP-2-850)
FlitterFactory sent Small Key (Key Cavern) to DrRomLADX (AP-2-879)
FlitterFactory sent Ballad of the Wind Fish to LlisandurLADX (AP-2-935)```
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With that I am in BK mode

lament tusk
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ooh those are good fragments

tender pelican
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Thanks for the rod. I'll check the two dungeons available after work.

lament tusk
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oooh i can straight up build a moonpool
cant do anything with that yet but thats great still

weary lagoon
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Sword already.... arigato...

weary lagoon
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@cold valve I got it

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I assume you didnt have to spend any hint points on that as that shop should have been auto hinted

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otherwise its a bug for paper mario AP

cold valve
fresh hill
sage dawn
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The forbidden tingle statue D:

tender pelican
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LlisandurFF1 sent progressive-train-network to FlitterFactory (Castle of Ordeals Top Floor (3F) - Incentive)

cold valve
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let's play ladx

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thanks for stuff!

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DrRomLADX sent Serenade of Water to kroot (Watery Statue Chest (Angler's Tunnel))

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DrRomLADX sent Flippers to LlisandurLADX (Peninsula Dig (Martha's Bay)) @tender pelican

tender pelican
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Oh, nice.

cold valve
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BK'd. time for hint

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[Hint]: DrRomLADX's Flippers is at SGT GRN Station Hidden Block in Paper Arti (JKB)'s World. (not found) @weary lagoon is this available in the near future?

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i can't believe i already have 12 seashells

tender pelican
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Oh, I can actually go to a dungeon now. XD

sage dawn
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Oh no
[Hint]: yay899SM64's Climb is at HF Ocarina of Time Item in kroot's World. (not found)

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@tender pelican This would be nice [Hint]: yay899SM64's Long Jump is at Slime Eye Heart Container (Key Cavern) in LlisandurLADX's World. (not found)

tender pelican
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I might not have enough keys.

sage dawn
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Rom's hookshot is locked behind me having one of these

tender pelican
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I'm in that dungeon now.

sage dawn
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Alright no pressure if you don't

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I'm more worried about the fact that climbing is all spiritual stones lol

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There's some stages that are REALLY hard to navigate without climbing poles

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This would also be nice, but I don't have anything I need to reach for other people up there yet.
[Hint]: yay899SM64's Second Floor Key is at Ice Pyramid 6F - Ice Golem Chest in LlisandurMQ's World. (not found)

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Oh and I don't need basement key at all if it turns out to be something hard.

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Moat is down

tender pelican
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I need any bombs, any sword, and either gemini crest or sand coin to get to the ice pyramid.

sage dawn
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Oh shit I might have cheated by having the moat lowered. I forgot to clear my save from last time and it might have been the only thing that carried over

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I'm sorry for cheating gamers

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Started a new save so the moat is back up uwu

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Luckily I didn't cheat any star doors because I rolled 0 and 1 stars required on the lobby bowser and basement bowser

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I'm sorry for bringing such shame smh

tender pelican
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Ok, need one more key for key cavern, which the stone beak inside the dungeon says there's one at kroot market slot 6.

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Also need the nightmare key.

midnight depot
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Hi.

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Seed changed. It is now 34179

midnight depot
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Oh Factorio has a special tracker

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And it's wrong

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I can technically craft all of these, but have none of their ingredients

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Let's play OoT

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Thanks for piece of heart. That's all for today

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I guess we gotta wait for Kratta

lament tusk
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this game really can be pretty
but no new unlocks so back to bk mode

weary lagoon
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Hello my friends

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I havent played properly since saturday but I have some time now.

weary lagoon
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lets play an hour of wind waker in honor of the wind waker switch port they are going to announce at the direct

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thanks for grappling hook, leaf, and bow

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and sword!

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four extremely important items

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lets go get flitters song of storms

midnight depot
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Oh nice thanks

weary lagoon
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actually having a sword in WW feels like cheating ICANT

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the forbidden woods are the dragon roost caverns

weary lagoon
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Dragon roost cavern down!!!!

midnight depot
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Today I learned if you repeat bombchu bowling three times you get bombchus as a reward

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This is a cheap way of refilling your bombchus since they tend to be very expensive in shops

lament tusk
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Yeah but it's a pain in the ass

midnight depot
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There's a setup that works every time

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(there's a setup for the earlier parts too)

lament tusk
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Still a pain

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Selling fish is just much easier

midnight depot
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It's the only way to refill bombchus if you have the smallest wallet

lament tusk
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True I suppose

sage dawn
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Does this version of rando have bombchu drops as part of bombchus in logic?

midnight depot
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No

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There's a setting that considers bombchus as part of logic. If turned on you will be guaranteed at least one renewable source of bombchus (a shop) before you get your first bombchu pack

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And the pack might also have 50

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Regardless of setting, bombchus are only found in one-time checks, found in at least one shop, and found in the bombchu bowling

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The shop and the bowling minigame are only unlocked after you find your first pack

midnight depot
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Hi

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Let's play OoT

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Thanks for song of storms and 400 rupees

weary lagoon
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np

midnight depot
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Back in BK mode

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I found Kratta's greg

weary lagoon
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they should call him Gregtta lol

cold valve
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let's plat ladx

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and play it too

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thanks for rupees

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still BK'd

weary lagoon
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D:

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ArtiWW sent Bird Key to DrRomLADX (Dragon Roost Island - Rito Aerie - Mail Sorting)

cold valve
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thanks

weary lagoon
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ArtiWW sent Progressive Shield to DrRomLADX (Forbidden Woods - Chest Across Red Hanging Flower)

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maybe ive saved you now

weary lagoon
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FORBIDDEN FOREST DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cold valve
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thanks for shield

midnight depot
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Hi

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Let's fuck around in Factorio, I guess

tender pelican
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Hopefully Kratta starts soon.

midnight depot
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Oh I can make blue science packs now

lament tusk
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Needs more science

midnight depot
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Update: No I can't. Need plastic

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[Hint]: FlitterFactory's plastics is at LLR Deku Scrub Grotto Center in kroot's World. (not found) @wet field if you have the time, I need this to proceed

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[Hint]: FlitterFactory's solar-energy is at Pawprint Isle - Chuchu Cave - Chest in ArtiWW's World. (not found) This would be convenient

midnight depot
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My factory is now completely backed up. All chests are full, all science is researched. Nothing more to do

sage dawn
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I also need things from kratta I think

weary lagoon
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krรธt

weary lagoon
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lets play some wind waker!!!

weary lagoon
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finding a lot of amazing krรธt items

wet field
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time to play ocarina of time ppawnk

wet field
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my low hp sound effect is the redead scream

midnight depot
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lmao

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You can change it with the oot adjuster

wet field
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No I accepted the risk

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plastics for the flitter factory

midnight depot
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Thanks

tender pelican
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Hm, hilarious. Apparently my progression in FFMQ this time is to just get all the most powerful spells before anything else.

sage dawn
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One time my low HP was flaredancer laugh and it was horrible.

midnight depot
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Hi

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Let's play OoT

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Thanks for mirror shield, heart container, strength 1, spirit temple key ring, wallet

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FlitterOoT sent Vehicle Upgrade Console to Meganoughtica (GC Shop Item 8)

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I also got my goron tonic

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Water Temple) to kroot (Fire Temple Boulder Maze Shortcut Chest)

midnight depot
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Within the claustrophobic confines of bottom of the well lies forest temple

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FlitterOoT sent Bow to LlisandurLADX (Spirit Temple Child Climb East Chest)

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FlitterOoT sent Letter to Goompapa 2 to Paper Arti (JKB) (Spirit Temple Sun Block Room Chest)

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FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Catfish's Maw) to LlisandurLADX (Spirit Temple Map Chest)

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[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Progressive Hookshot is at RR: Somewhere Over the Rainbow in yay899SM64's World at Hazy Maze Cave. (not found)

midnight depot
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And I'm back in BK mode

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Let's try a new trick

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It is possible to skip killing the four Poes and go directly to Phantom Ganon with no items what so ever. Okay, got it

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Head over to the far north door and position yourself in the crook of the two railings. Okay, sure.

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Turn around, pull out the hookshot, fuck you.

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All right. That's enough for today

tender pelican
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I am blocked in FFMQ again.

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But I got a bunch of checks done.

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LlisandurMQ sent Wind Tingle Statue to ArtiWW (Lava Dome - Beyond River Room Chest)
LlisandurMQ sent progressive-processing to FlitterFactory (Foresta - Outside Box)
LlisandurMQ sent Skull Hammer to ArtiWW (Bone Dungeon B1 - Ribcage Waterway Box)
LlisandurMQ sent Small Key (Key Cavern) to DrRomLADX (Bone Dungeon B2 - Tristam's Treasure Chest)
LlisandurMQ sent Magical Seed to Paper Arti (JKB) (Bone Dungeon B2 - North Box)

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I need FlitterOoT|LlisandurFF1|Floater|ZR Frogs in the Rain|Ocarina of Time|Vanilla to check anything else in FF1.

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Or the key, but I need a bunch of stuff for level 2 in my LADX for it.

midnight depot
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Oh yeah frogs in the rain is a check

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I think I can get that

tender pelican
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I'll do checks in OoS after work tomorrow.

sage dawn
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@midnight depot you might be able to do that skip with bow. You just see it with hookshot because it let's come back for bow later in some routes

midnight depot
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That makes sense. I'm mostly annoyed it says you need no items

sage dawn
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Yeah they assume you have it from getting into forest temple lol

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But yeah iirc the hookshot release is just to kill your backflip momentum, and bow does that too

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It's how you do hovers without hover boots too.

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Although there is sideflip chu hovering too these days

midnight depot
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I saw a different trick to do the same thing from the stalfos room

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That one uses hoverboot hammer recoil at an angle

sage dawn
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Oh nice. I wonder if that was found for the low c button lotad

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They have hammer on B for a lot of that run

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Floater to LlisandurFF1 (ZR Frogs in the Rain) @tender pelican

tender pelican
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Nice.

midnight depot
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Sorry it took me like twenty minutes. My controller ran out of battery

sage dawn
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rip

tender pelican
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Lol no problem. It'll be tomorrow before I do more anyway.

weary lagoon
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wow flitter is yellow today

midnight depot
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True

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You can be yellow too

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#roles

sage dawn
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Why be yellow when you can be a sleepy kitty uwu

midnight depot
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Sleepy kitty is not mutually exclusive with colors

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Okay, NOW let's play Factorio

midnight depot
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Wait, I don't have fluid tanks

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Am I gonna have to process oil completely with pipes?

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That'll do it until I have a real setup

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FlitterFactory sent Progressive Sword to LlisandurOoS (AP-4-082)

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FlitterFactory sent Moblin's Letter to ArtiWW (AP-4-350)

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FlitterFactory sent Goombario Upgrade to Paper Arti (JKB) (AP-4-705)

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FlitterFactory sent Kooper Upgrade to Paper Arti (JKB) (AP-4-693)

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Back to BK mode

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[Hint]: FlitterFactory's progressive-military is at Sword & Shield Dungeon (1F): Eye Drop Near Entrance in LlisandurOoS's World. (not found)

lament tusk
midnight depot
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Today I learned a new trick

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From the button balcony, you can use hover boots, hold forward and roll then near the end of the jump do a jumpslash to gain the last bit of distance, allowing you to reach the chest

lament tusk
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Huh

sage dawn
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Oh shit nice. I'll remember that trick. I've only ever seen the megaflip which is too precise for me.

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I should probably learn it eventually though because it lets you skip the last two small keys by landing on the higher spot

tender pelican
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LlisandurOoS sent Modification Station Fragment to Meganoughtica (Unicorn's Cave: Terrace Chest)

tender pelican
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Lots of checks from unlocking airship.
LlisandurFF1 sent Prawn Suit Torpedo Arm Fragment to Meganoughtica (Sarda)
LlisandurFF1 sent Cyclops Engine Fragment to Meganoughtica (CubeBot)
LlisandurFF1 sent Bomb to DrRomLADX (Mirage Tower (2F) - Lesser 3)
LlisandurFF1 sent Progressive Wallet to FlitterOoT (Sky Fortress Plus (1F) - Five-Pack 4)
LlisandurFF1 sent Small Key (Fire Temple) to kroot (Sky Fortress Spider (2F) - Cheap Room 2)
LlisandurFF1 sent Sarias Song to kroot (Sky Fortress Spider (2F) - Gauntlet Room)

sage dawn
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If anyone ever needs the JRB cannon star without climb this is the lineup

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It was a small key for bottle grotto

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God dealing with a way too sensitive stick for the tiny adjustments figuring this one out was horrible

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Me: oh I have wing cap so I can do SSL reds

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Also me: can't triple jump to take off

tender pelican
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Ooh, boss key. Too bad I used all the small keys and can't get to the boss door now. XD

sage dawn
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rippp

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I got a decent amount of stuff that seems good, but forgot to launch the text client so I couldn't copy and paste any of it

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Probably back in BK mode since I stopped cheating and the moat is back up now

midnight depot
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Hi

weary lagoon
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Hi

midnight depot
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Unicorn Cave's boss key, progressive automation, triforce shard, some more stuff

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Let's play OoT!

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Thanks for wallet

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FlitterOoT sent Boss Key (Water Temple) to kroot (KF Shop Item 8)

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FlitterOoT sent Feather to LlisandurLADX (ZD Shop Item 7)
FlitterOoT found their Bomb Bag (ZD Shop Item 5)

midnight depot
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Let's stop here. I don't think I have anything left to find

tender pelican
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Ooh, feather should unlock a bit.

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Hm, apparently I can't pick up floating bombs until I actually get bombs from somewhere. That's annoying.

tender pelican
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LlisandurLADX sent Feather to DrRomLADX (Boots Pit (Kanalet Castle))
LlisandurLADX sent Pegasus Boots to DrRomLADX (Bridge Rock (Tal Tal Mountains))
LlisandurLADX sent Letter to Little Mouser to Paper Arti (JKB) (Boo Buddies Room Chest (Bottle Grotto))
LlisandurLADX sent Cookbook to Paper Arti (JKB) (Mad Batter (Martha's Bay))

lament tusk
lament tusk
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oh no, the prawn suit is fully unlocked
the prawn suit is amazing, but walking across subnautica's map is... a pain in the ass
i cant build it yet, but it would suck if i needed to use it as my only vehicle to unlock the cyclops

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the prawn suit is an underwater mech, and is the most versatile vehicle, most notably allowing me to mine large mineral deposits, but its really slow and clunky. you need a support ship to haul it around and make it more practical, namely the cyclops, which is big enough to have a full docking bay and the ability to build base components inside, like storage and crafting

midnight depot
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Better use your hints tactically

lament tusk
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the trouble with subnautica hints is that i need like 10 items for the cyclops, which is the main progression blocker
9 for the cyclops itself, one for the mobile vehicle bay
then you have another 4 items for the launch platform and escape rocket parts, plus you need one more for the cyclops shield generator which is a key part of the neptune escape rocket's recipe. fortunately i have that already
its a lot of waiting, then a lot of checks, then waiting again

midnight depot
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Let's play Factorio

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Nope. Can't make any new science packs

lament tusk
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dont you have plastic now?

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or are you done with blue?

midnight depot
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I'm done with blue only

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It was like four sciences

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I need military

lament tusk
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hecc

cold valve
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I should have a buttload of stuff to do when i get home today

weary lagoon
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thanks for the skull hammer.

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lets see what the reward for the hardest combat cave in the game is

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Neptune Gantry

lament tusk
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1/4 parts of the escape rocket, I need that

weary lagoon
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Wind Waker in BK mode ๐Ÿ’ช

midnight depot
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Good afternoon

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Let's play OoT

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No new checks

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Are we on track to finish?

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Only about a week left with an average of 36% checks found

weary lagoon
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im on vacation now so I can BK every day if need be ppenk

midnight depot
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Let's play Factorio

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Thanks for solar panels. No new checks though

weary lagoon
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i should hint bombs in wind waker those are pretty important

sage dawn
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Sorry for not being around yesterday. Kinda went on a manga binge and also maybe didn't sleep last night

midnight depot
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Don't worry too much about it. It seems to me that you're being reasonably active

sage dawn
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Okay

lament tusk
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its just a game amy, you're not obligated to force yourself to play if you dont wanna

cold valve
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ok i got 10 minutes before D&D i'll get on and see what items i've got, then i'll go BK again after D&D

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cool i can do tons of stuff now

weary lagoon
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You too can become a hero

sage dawn
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When will Artiks become my hero? uwu

sage dawn
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Wooooo

cold valve
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time to stream some ladx

midnight depot
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Have fun

cold valve
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DrRomLADX sent Nightmare Key (Face Shrine) to LlisandurLADX (MrWrite (Goponga Swamp))

tender pelican
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I still have no bombs. Can't beat that boss. XD

midnight depot
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DrRomLADX sent progressive-stronger-explosives to FlitterFactory (Vacuum Mouth Chest (Key Cavern))

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Pretty sure I need that to craft military science. Why is it marked only useful?

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Oh wait

cold valve
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DrRomLADX sent Laser Cutter Fragment to Meganoughtica (Zol Switch Chest (Key Cavern))

midnight depot
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It just increases explosive damage

cold valve
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DrRomLADX sent Fire Book to LlisandurMQ (Two Stalfos, Zol Chest (Key Cavern))

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DrRomLADX sent Power Plus to Paper Arti (JKB) (Sword Stalfos, Keese Switch Chest (Key Cavern))

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DrRomLADX sent Flower Saver to Paper Arti (JKB) (Three Bombite Key (Key Cavern))

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DrRomLADX sent Boss Key (Shadow Temple) to kroot (Two Zol, Stalfos Ledge Chest (Key Cavern))

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found a prawn suit fragment but i think you already have that

lament tusk
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oooh i get a few checks

cold valve
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DrRomLADX sent Blizzard Book to LlisandurMQ (Crow Rock Leaf (Kanalet Castle))

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DrRomLADX sent Orange Rupee to ArtiWW (Dream Hut West (Mabe Village))

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DrRomLADX sent Treasure Chart 1 to ArtiWW (Grandma (Animal Village))

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DrRomLADX sent Rutos Letter to kroot (Vacuum Mouth Chest (Bottle Grotto))

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level 2 done, 1 instrument down

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DrRomLADX sent Watt Upgrade to Paper Arti (JKB) (Hardhat Beetle Pit Chest (Bottle Grotto))

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DrRomLADX sent Bombchus to kroot (Enemy Order Room Chest (Bottle Grotto))

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DrRomLADX sent Bombs (10) to kroot (Lower Bomb Locked Watery Chest (Angler's Tunnel))

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DrRomLADX sent Stone of Agony to kroot (Upper Bomb Locked Watery Chest (Angler's Tunnel))

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DrRomLADX sent Deku Stick Capacity to kroot (Spark Chest (Angler's Tunnel))

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@midnight depot i can use this now [Hint]: DrRomLADX's Nightmare Key (Tail Cave) is at AP-4-037 in FlitterFactory's World. (not found), this one i will need once i get the hookshot [Hint]: DrRomLADX's Nightmare Key (Eagle's Tower) is at AP-5-663 in FlitterFactory's World. (not found), everything else hinted i do not need

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everything else hinted from factorio i mean

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@wet field i need this [Hint]: DrRomLADX's Ocarina is at LW Skull Kid in kroot's World. (not found)

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i have 1 hint left but i will hold onto it for now, the only thing that makes sense is the face key but i need the flippers for that anyway

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most of my things are locked behind hookshot and flippers now, besides dungeon keys

midnight depot
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Can't do depth 4 or 5 yet

weary lagoon
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finally a power plus in paper mario

wet field
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I got it

cold valve
wet field
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I hope this is get-able
[Hint]: kroot's Kokiri Sword is at Libra Temple - Box in LlisandurMQ's World. (not found)

tender pelican
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I need the libra crest and sand coin or gemini crest.

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Or maybe it's the sun coin. One sec, gotta check maps.

wet field
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what do you need to get my song of time? that's the big bottleneck for me

tender pelican
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Looks like it's just gemini crest or sand coin to get the kokiri sword.

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My tracker days the dungeon that your song of time is in is out of logic, but I'm able to get there. Let's see if I can get it.

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Ah, seems I didn't know to fill the randomized season in. XD

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LlisandurOoS sent Song of Time to kroot (Sword & Shield Dungeon (1F): U-Shaped Spiky Freezer Chest)

wet field
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big chillin'

tender pelican
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kroot|LlisandurMQ|Gemini Crest|Spirit Temple GS Boulder Room|Ocarina of Time|Desert Colossus -> Spirit Temple Lobby
Need this for your kokiri sword, or the sand coin if someone find s that first.

wet field
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got the gemini crest

tender pelican
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Nice.

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LlisandurMQ sent Kokiri Sword to kroot (Libra Temple - Box)

wet field
tender pelican
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LlisandurMQ sent Face Key to DrRomLADX (Aquaria - Vendor House Box)
LlisandurMQ sent Magic Powder to DrRomLADX (South of Aquaria Battlefield)
LlisandurMQ sent Necklace to DrRomLADX (Wintry Cave 3F - East Box)
LlisandurMQ sent concrete to FlitterFactory (Wintry Cave 1F - Slippery Cliff Box)
LlisandurMQ sent Letter to Igor to Paper Arti (JKB) (Ice Pyramid 3F - Staircase Dead End Left Box)
LlisandurMQ sent Letter to Minh T to Paper Arti (JKB) (Ice Pyramid 2F - Northwest Room Box)

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LlisandurMQ sent Progressive Strength Upgrade to FlitterOoT (Ice Pyramid B1 - East Box)
LlisandurMQ sent Alien Containment to Meganoughtica (Ice Pyramid B1 - North Box)
LlisandurMQ sent Second Floor Key to yay899SM64 (Ice Pyramid 6F - Ice Golem Chest)
LlisandurMQ sent Bow to FlitterOoT (Ice Pyramid 5F - Glass Door Left Box)
LlisandurMQ sent Cyclops Engine Fragment to Meganoughtica (Ice Pyramid 4F - South Right Box)
LlisandurMQ sent Mobile Vehicle Bay Fragment to Meganoughtica (Ice Pyramid 4F - East Left Box)
LlisandurMQ sent Cyclops Bridge Fragment to Meganoughtica (Spencer's Cave - Box)

lament tusk
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Mobile vehicle bay! And many cyclops fragments
Nice

weary lagoon
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thanks for hookshot ๐Ÿ™‚

lament tusk
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oh wow im one fragment away from completing the cyclops
someone got me my radiation suit too, thats awesome
thats nearly everything i need

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...oh

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this important?

tender pelican
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Opens a dungeon.

lament tusk
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neat

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this seems useful for yay

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seems useful