#Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer

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fresh hill
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I don't have a bucket but I did notice that shortcut

tender pelican
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Should be, about to go there.

midnight depot
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The bucket helps the most in the old building race, and the pickaxe helps most in the hawk peak race while the bucket also helps a bit

fresh hill
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TIL the mine shortcut is legal in a race

weary lagoon
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lets end this OoT session with some HBA

fresh hill
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ok, since I'm out of money and have none of the items to farm money with, I'm gonna call that BK

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after making sure nothing important is at 30 hits...

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nope

midnight depot
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Well done

fresh hill
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this does make me question the lack of money logic though

weary lagoon
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1490 ICANT

fresh hill
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there's no way to farm without a fishing rod

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even the money rock needs a shovel

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but that's 700 coins it thinks I just have

midnight depot
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Oh that's the universal tracker

fresh hill
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yeah

midnight depot
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Yeah that's bad. The game should never assume you have money without either the fishing rod or enough money drops

fresh hill
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this_is_fine.jpg

weary lagoon
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yooooo

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1500 was my boomerang

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nuts

tender pelican
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Sent the wallet.

weary lagoon
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thank you

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Now I can finally have rupees stop going to waste

fresh hill
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think we should hint my EL claws yet?

midnight depot
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Sure. You got spare hints or do you want to borrow them from another game?

fresh hill
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the latter, EL didn't get enough points for a single hint before BK (or I would've spent it already), but ASH has a bunch

midnight depot
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Bloody Knight's claws?

fresh hill
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yep

midnight depot
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I already sent you that today

weary lagoon
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owned

fresh hill
midnight depot
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Oh yeah my bad. My game crashed before I could get to the store

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I'm going to get it real quick before I go to bed

fresh hill
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counter-owned

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thanks

midnight depot
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Thank you for Nayru's love

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FlitterOoT sent Bloody Knight's Claws to Ixlily (Kak Bazaar Item 7)

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Now that I have the game open let's play some more

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He's mad at me because I didn't hit a single target

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Oh!

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I tried to jump into the well and I had my camera situated so that it was out of view

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This caused me to splash into water for a moment, even though the well is meant to be dry

weary lagoon
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Wtf invisiwater?

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let's see how wind wakers tracker looks with the grappling hook

midnight depot
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Must be some sort of bug with the way they handle water draining

weary lagoon
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A lot of green

lament tusk
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nice

weary lagoon
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This is similar to all my other WW rando runs in that we're on 38% and I'm on 0/4 swords

midnight depot
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You should start with swords auto-hinted

weary lagoon
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thats not fun

midnight depot
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Well okay

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Time for me to do Dampe's race

weary lagoon
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Oh I can look at the treasure chart too now

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I have a lot of maps

midnight depot
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59

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FlitterOoT sent Power Star to Dessy-SM64 (Graveyard Dampe Race Freestanding PoH)

weary lagoon
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Crusader sounds good

midnight depot
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Thank you for stick

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I sent it to Jay

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Llisandur sent Deku Stick (1) to FlitterOoT (Giant Tree 2F - South Box)
FlitterOoT sent Stick to JayASH (GC Deku Scrub Grotto Left)

weary lagoon
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Forbidden woods is forbidden woods ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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@wet field you can go to the temple of time now ๐Ÿ˜Ž

wet field
midnight depot
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Thank you for the second ocarina

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I found a way to hyrule castle

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FlitterOoT sent Energy Tank to Dessy-SM (HC GS Storms Grotto)

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Glad I stopped to check that on the way to waking Talon the fuck up

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Oh, when you left the game my game crashed

tender pelican
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It was a good run, but I'm locked until I get the mobius and libra rests now. I don't remember which one actually makes progression. XD

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Oh no.

midnight depot
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Not only did my game crashed

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My... controller crashed

tender pelican
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:/

midnight depot
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I don't know how that happens

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Either way, it's no big deal. It deleted my last save but I had a backup

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Since when do I have another bottle?

weary lagoon
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i sent you a bottle with fish 20 min ago or so

midnight depot
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Oh I thought it was just a fish

cold valve
lament tusk
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i think when the rando sends you a bottle item, it sends the bottle

midnight depot
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Usually it sends Ruto's letter or big poe in a bottle

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And for other bottled items, it says that it sent the item, not a bottle containing an item

weary lagoon
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but there are exceptions as you can see

midnight depot
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Well in this case you sent me a bottle containing a fish

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Not a fish

weary lagoon
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exactly.

midnight depot
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If you sent me just a fish it wouldn't come with a free bottle

weary lagoon
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Yeah, I know how it works

midnight depot
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Where the hell is Malon?

weary lagoon
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you have to talk to her and wake her dad up and then she should be there

midnight depot
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I did both

weary lagoon
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Is her dad inside?

midnight depot
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Yeah, her dad is home but she's not in the farm or the stables or the house or the cow barn

weary lagoon
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hm maybe you talked to malon on that session your game crashed

midnight depot
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Lazy idiot,

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That is probably the case

dawn wigeon
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Terrato and Crusader are both one of X (I think 19) macguffins I need to start the final battle in FF6

weary lagoon
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19 WutFace

dawn wigeon
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How good they are is totally random

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Yeah goal was randomly picked

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Because the world ignored my yaml lol

midnight depot
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These are the settings the spoiler file reports for you:

Player 6: Dessy-FF6WC
Game:                            Final Fantasy 6 Worlds Collide
Progression Balancing:           50
Accessibility:                   Locations
Local Items:                     
Not Local Items:                 
Start Inventory:                 
Start Hints:                     
Start Location Hints:            
Excluded Locations:              
Priority Locations:              
Item Links:                      
Characters Required:             8
Espers Required:                 12
Dragons Required:                4
Bosses Required:                 16
Starting Character Count:        2
Starting Character 1:            Shadow
Starting Character 2:            Terra
Starting Character 3:            None
Starting Character 4:            None
Randomized Stats:                Light
Randomized Commands:             Random Most
Battle Reward Multiplier:        Triple
Randomized Bosses:               Shuffled
Random Encounters:               Randomized
Esper Spells:                    Shuffled
Esper Bonuses:                   Shuffled
Esper Equipability:              Vanilla
Natural Magic:                   Both
Starting GP:                     30000
Randomized Shops:                Random Tiered
Spellcasting Items:              Limited
Equipment:                       Shuffled
Allow Strongest Items:           Yes
Randomize Zozo Clock:            Yes
Treasuresanity:                  Off
Flagstring:                      False```
dawn wigeon
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Yep which does not match the yaml

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It's fine

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I already talked with the guy who created that world he fixed the issue

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Seashell to FlitterASH (Song from Malon)

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I'll stop here for today. I still have plenty to find in OoT, but tomorrow I want to play aLttP

cold valve
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OoT has seashells?

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Oh no i read that wrong

midnight depot
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A short hike has fifteen seashells for one check

cold valve
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thanks for magic rod and dungen keys

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lol i found level 6 in level 6

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golden feather for flitterASH

midnight depot
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Thanks. I really like those

cold valve
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universal key for flitterlttp

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crystal palace key for papaer arti

midnight depot
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Put it in the pile

cold valve
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delivery bag for toon arti

midnight depot
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I can buy an endless amount of those so I don't actually need any (a flaw of the universal keys system)

cold valve
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my feather hint crashed the client

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@fierce vale this is important whenever you get to it

midnight depot
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It's not a roc's feather?

cold valve
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it is, but the client didn't like "roc's feather" and instead asked if imeant "feather"

fresh hill
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oh, no time rift rando this time?

cold valve
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also interesting that i still have 3 hearts

midnight depot
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Maybe it's french vanilla

cold valve
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i hope the game didn't fuck up my boss reward priority slots and put all the hearts there

midnight depot
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Some of your heart containers are in other games

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You just have not gotten any

cold valve
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ok cool

fierce vale
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paissapretty yeah, i have no idea when ill unlock time rifts, i unlocked 1 but not its corresponding level yet

weary lagoon
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Hey

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Im gonna play wind waker

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anyone else?

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Wow, 2 whole pieces of the triforce

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Im gonna go salvage treasure

lament tusk
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im still bk in my games

weary lagoon
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Quiver for Flitteroot!

weary lagoon
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Relic (green canyon)

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one of the most powerful relics of all time

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Tower of Gods complete!! 2/6 Wind Waker dungeons down!!

weary lagoon
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you have all child items and the only song location left you can get is the ocarina of time which should mean you should be able to get all 3 spiritual stones

lament tusk
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randomized dungeons

midnight depot
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Can you elaborate?

lament tusk
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right now i have access to bottom of the well, jabu jabu belly, fire temple, ice cavern

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i have finished jabu jabu

weary lagoon
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That cant be right you're just stuck then

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did you go into fire temple as child

lament tusk
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its not in logic but i can

weary lagoon
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and its vanilla fire temple?

lament tusk
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yeah

weary lagoon
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if thats true im not sure how you progress the game ppenk

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which item are you waiting for

lament tusk
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i... dont know

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what one would get me a song?

weary lagoon
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You have to get song of time from 3 spiritual stones

lament tusk
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i have the weird egg, so thats the lullaby check, malon check

weary lagoon
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I dont know how many you have but you have to beat at least one more dungeon

lament tusk
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well jabu jabu gave me a medalion

weary lagoon
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So I would recheck deku tree, dodongos cavern, fire temple and jabu jabu entrances

lament tusk
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i am doing that right now

weary lagoon
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And if you are correct in the dungeons you have access to then you somehow have to do ice cavern as child but last time I tried that was impossible.

midnight depot
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I'm going to play LttP in a bit so I'll probably find your progression

lament tusk
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this is where im at:
i just went into every dungeon again to recheck logic
the only green is shooting gallery reward but i made tha junk

midnight depot
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Where's your Deku tree?

weary lagoon
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Yeah just map out all the dungeon entrances -> dungeons for us

midnight depot
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Actually I can check for myself

lament tusk
weary lagoon
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I didnt take into account if you have open door of time on in that case ignore everything ive said

lament tusk
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...i dont think i do but i havent checked?

midnight depot
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Open Door of Time: No

weary lagoon
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Some sort of alternate way to open it?

lament tusk
weary lagoon
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When I went to ice cavern as child in OoTMM I couldnt progress past the first room because the ledge was too high

midnight depot
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Sounds good to me

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Have fun doing ice cavern as child link

lament tusk
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ill need to get some blue fire then
good thing i have 3 bottles

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i just need to remember where i can buy blue fire

weary lagoon
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oh if you have blue fire you dont have to go up that ledge

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thats cool never seen a child ice cavern seed before

lament tusk
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maybe its not showing as in logic because i have never actually gotten any blue fire, not thinking id need it

weary lagoon
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as long as you have 1 you can burn the wall that gives you access to more

midnight depot
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I'm free!

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Get fucked, Dark World. Get fucked, dim ass cave, get fucked, old man

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What the fuck he's still here

lament tusk
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LOL

weary lagoon
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iirc you bringing him back to the light world is the vanilla quest

midnight depot
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Why did he not transform?

weary lagoon
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or maybe im thinking of the frog guy

lament tusk
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thanks flitteR! just what i needed in this cold place

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ice cavern is still out of logic???

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well i gotta do it apparently, doesnt matter

midnight depot
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I found my hookshot

lament tusk
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SoT get! also bombs for toon arti

midnight depot
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Well done

lament tusk
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oh loook theres most of the map opened up

midnight depot
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FlitterLttP sent Sarias Song to FlitterOoT (Light World Death Mountain Shop Center)

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FlitterLttP sent CardMaridiaBoss to Dessy-SMZ3 (Spiral Cave)

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These item names are so bad

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I have no idea how to exit death mountain

cold valve
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Have you tried dying

midnight depot
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That brings me back to the dark world

lament tusk
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man 48 seconds in lon lon race was hard

midnight depot
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FlitterLttP sent Exp. Egg to Dessy-FF6WC (Spectacle Rock Cave)

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I think that's a nice to have

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Still stuck in death mountain

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FlitterLttP sent Small Key (Bottle Grotto) to DrRomLADX (Paradox Cave Lower - Far Right)

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I have finally made it to a dungeon

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FlitterLttP sent Gel to DrRomLADX (Tower of Hera - Big Key Chest) it's a trap

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Oh I guess tower of hera isn't a dungeon

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I'll stop here. Let me save state with F2 so I don't have to go all the way back

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My game is up to 23%

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Which means I can use another hint

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I think I want to use it to get the thing that lets me call the bird so I can fucking escape

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Wait, I need to play the flute by the statue first to unlock that

cold valve
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I have like 5 hints available

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But no burning need to find anything until i get the feather

midnight depot
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I asked in the archipelago server

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Turns out the reason I can't find the exit is there isn't one

lament tusk
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oh thats interesting
i have the broken giants knif right now, and it turns out thats a really easy way to beat your shadow in water temple if you have it
you walk into your shadow and swing, hit them every time
the eapon ark of the sword is too short to be blocked by your shadow's sword

midnight depot
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Megaton hammer also works like a charm

lament tusk
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if i had it

lament tusk
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water temple get

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it was behind forest temple and i got sarias song so i decided to get the forest song check

lament tusk
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damnit i just bought myself a fire tunic and just found the free one
at the fishing minigame of all places

midnight depot
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That's okay because you don't technically need tunics for any checks

lament tusk
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i know
but it makes it easier

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anyway

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im done for the evening but i got a lotta checks for tomorrow

weary lagoon
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Killing Volvagia without a tunic sounds annoying

cold valve
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thanks for bird key and frog song and zol attack

midnight depot
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Zol

cold valve
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or Gel as AP calls it

midnight depot
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Hello, let's play a little bit of ASH

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Thank you for golden feathers, fishing rod, seashells, and gobs and gobs of money

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Drinks stall for jay, arrow upgrade for me

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Time to fish in the Every Fish pond

fresh hill
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oh that pond

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definitely using it when I get the fishing rod, the fishing journal clues were pretty hit and miss last time

midnight depot
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FlitterASH sent ETank to Dessy-SMZ3 (Boat Rental)
FlitterASH sent Heart Container to Arti (Catch Fish with Permit)

clear summit
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You can catch the permit fish there???

midnight depot
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You can catch the permit fish anywhere

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FlitterASH's Silver Feather is at Ganons Castle Shadow Trial Front Chest in kr?t's World at SFM Forest Temple Entrance Ledge -> Forest Temple Lobby. (not found)
FlitterASH's Silver Feather is at King Zora in FlitterLttP's World. (not found)
FlitterASH's Running Shoes is at Dragon Roost Cavern - Water Jug on Upper Shelf in Toon Arti's World. (not found)
FlitterASH's Silver Feather is at Sheik in Ice Cavern in kr?t's World at Desert Colossus -> Spirit Temple Lobby. (not found)

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Now, my goal is help everyone

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So the remaining tasks I have to do are Pay tuition, return camping permit, complete boating challenge, return wristwatch, collect seashells, give feathers to fox

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[Hint]: FlitterASH's Shovel is at Swamp Palace - Map Chest in Dessy-SMZ3's World. (not found)

weary lagoon
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Great stuff

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I havent found dragon roost cavern yet

midnight depot
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For now, I can finish the tuition one and the artist one, but I'd rather wait for more money naturally before I go for the tuition

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lmao you can use your bucket to put out fires

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I wonder if that pisses anybody off

clear summit
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...is that permanent

midnight depot
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Probably resets after a while

fresh hill
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speaking of which, do you know how long you have to wait after giving the frog a shovel before the sandcastle chest appears?

midnight depot
midnight depot
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All events seem to be location-based, rather than time based

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So leaving and coming back will do it if you leave for a sufficient distance

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Saving and reloading seems to light the fire back up

fresh hill
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I had a feeling it might be that, last time I played I went back and forth a few times with the sandcastles at the edge of my vision to see if I could detect it happening

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and I did fly directly from the artist chat at outlook point down to the final artist chat without any delay

clear summit
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It probably wants to be outside of your view

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I remember in terraria the game chooses a spot for meteorite drop to specifically avoid you looking at it happening

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(there is a way to go around it but still)

midnight depot
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FlitterASH sent Claim Check to Meganoot (Artist Golden Feather)

clear summit
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I should play RCT soon, since I can remove trees

fresh hill
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I know my EL is unblocked but I dunno if I'll get to it this weekend

midnight depot
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Oh the secret island is reachable now

fresh hill
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was it not before? I thought most of it was sphere 1

midnight depot
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The peak wasn't for me

fresh hill
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oh you meant the peak

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you're at... 9 feathers?

midnight depot
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Eight or nine. I already closed the game

fresh hill
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I counted 9 in that last screenshot

midnight depot
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I need three more for the mountaintop fox, and running shoes or more feathers for the races

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Yeah

fresh hill
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hm, only have 3 feathers, apparently hawk peak and secret island peak are in-logic only on Hard gf logic

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no bucket either

midnight depot
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I'm going for easy logic

fresh hill
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the poptracker doesn't mention pickaxe for some reason but I'm pretty sure I didn't have that either

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I'm pretty sure my yaml was set to easy logic too, though I forgot the tracker defaulted to normal so I probably ended up doing normal gf logic in my last session without realizing it

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still how the heck do you get onto hawk peak with only 3 feathers

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(I assume secret island peak is done by gliding down from hawk peak)

midnight depot
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I have no clue how to do it without buckets and pickaxes

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The biggest blocker for me is the bully climb

weary lagoon
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you're still playing this game?

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They should call it a long hike

midnight depot
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No I'm done

weary lagoon
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Thats my joke for the day im tapped

lament tusk
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hmm
i have the thieves hidehout key for the carpenters, and theres one locked door for one locked carpenter, but its apparently the wrong key?

weary lagoon
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weird, never seen this before

midnight depot
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Do you have all keys randomized?

lament tusk
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yeah

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maybe theres another 3 keys for the other carpenters? but thats not happened before

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theres no fight here either

weary lagoon
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talk to the carpenter to trigger the fight

lament tusk
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oh that might do it

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that did it

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thanks!

weary lagoon
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nice

lament tusk
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my spirit temple is spirit temple
bullshit

midnight depot
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A short hike speedrun time is one and a half minutes

lament tusk
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lol i unfroze the zora king for my reward to be being frozen

weary lagoon
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the law of equivalent exchange

lament tusk
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ice cave is deku tree? i cant complete this as an adult tho, can i?

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well i can kill ghoma, but i have to crawl in a few spots

weary lagoon
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you dont need to crawl for any checks

lament tusk
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huh

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ghoma dead

lament tusk
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is this the feather you needed flitter?

midnight depot
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Sure

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I need three celestial feathers for a check

lament tusk
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im gonna write down dungeon entrances so i dont forget:
spirit - spirit
water - GTG
fire - ice cavern - dun
ice cavern - deku tree - dun
deku tree - fire
dodongo - jabu - dun
shadow - forest
forest - water - dun
GTG - shadow
well - dodongo - dun

fresh hill
fresh hill
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over half that "run" is cutscene lol

midnight depot
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Earlier runs used chests as a boosting method

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Let's play a bit of Monster Sanctuary

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Wait where are my fucking keys

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I didn't get a single one

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Ah well, I still have checks to get

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Bottle for Artiks

weary lagoon
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holy hell

cold valve
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thanks for stuff! powder upgrade helps and i got a couple catfish maw checks

midnight depot
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Oh to be clear it's a Wind Waker bottle

weary lagoon
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it doesn't matter at all either way ChisatoXD

midnight depot
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Wallet and progressive strength upgrade for me

lament tusk
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nice!

weary lagoon
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LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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My strength ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅ RichardsCash

cold valve
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all useless checks for me :(

weary lagoon
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if you found rupees for toon arti I very much appreciate it even if they dont say progression on them

lament tusk
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dodongo dead

cold valve
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dodongos are the second most annoying miniboss in LADX

lament tusk
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i did a lot today

cold valve
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swiggity

lament tusk
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i need 2 strength, hammer, hover boots and a bunch of keys

cold valve
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@wet field this will also be important

lament tusk
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subnautica still BK

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i need: mobile vehicle bay fragment for the next chunk of checks

midnight depot
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Pickaxe for Ixrec, Angler's Tunnel key for Dr. Romulus

cold valve
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sweet that unlocks the rest of the dungeon, exept the boss, once i get the feather

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@fierce vale this will also be needed

midnight depot
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Hi. I'm done with DnD and have some time before bed so let's play OoT

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Thank you for quiver

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saria's song, hover boots, wallet, strength, hookshot

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FlitterOoT sent Sky Fragment to Llisandur (KF Shop Item 6)

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FlitterOoT sent Blue Cave key to FlitterMS (Market Bazaar Item 7)
FlitterOoT sent Seashell to FlitterASH (Market Potion Shop Item 7)
FlitterOoT sent Mobius Crest to Llisandur (Market Bazaar Item 5)
FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Gerudo Training Ground) to Meganoot (Market Bombchu Shop Item 8)

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FlitterOoT sent Giant Seed to FlitterMS (Market Bombchu Shop Item 7)

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That is enough for now

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I think I should be able to afford every shop item now so I'm going to but some more stuff next time I play

dawn wigeon
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So I had enough stuff to just go beat FF6 and since it wasn't really what I specified in the yaml, I wasn't really looking forward to playing more of it this month so I just went and beat the last boss with 4 mid level folks and a bunch of level 3 characters

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Very few checks though so I don't think it's a huge deal

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I guess SMZ3 is next since it's the lowest %

lament tusk
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The only thing you got me was an ice trap :(

dawn wigeon
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Dessy-SMZ3 sent Single Arrow to DrRomLADX (Missile (outside Wrecked Ship top))

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I think my countributions have been good today ๐Ÿ˜„

lament tusk
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You have, magic and boss key for flitter
I'd comment about other games items but I don't know them

dawn wigeon
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39 checks in the SM side of SMZ3

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There have been some good ones

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Dessy-SMZ3 sent Ice Arrows to kr?t (Missile (lower Norfair above fire flea room))
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Koopa Fortress Key to Paper Arti (Power Bomb (lower Norfair above fire flea room))
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Deep Stone to FlitterMS (Missile (green Maridia shinespark))
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Dark Stone to FlitterMS (Energy Tank, Mama turtle)
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Fire Arrows to kr?t (Super Missile (green Maridia))
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Small Key (Gerudo Training Ground) to Meganoot (Missile (yellow Maridia false wall))
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Stick to Ixbird (Super Missile (yellow Maridia))
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Treasure Chart 23 to Toon Arti (Missile (yellow Maridia super missile))
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Small Key (Gerudo Training Ground) to kr?t (Missile (pink Maridia))
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Bow to kr?t (Missile (right Maridia sand pit room))
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Aero Book to Llisandur (Missile (left Maridia sand pit room))
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Stagnant Blight x30 to Ixlily (Right Super, Wrecked Ship)
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Swim Charge Fins to Submega (Missile (Wrecked Ship top))
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Treasure Chart 11 to Toon Arti (Missile (outside Wrecked Ship middle))
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Bombchus to Meganoot (Missile (outside Wrecked Ship bottom))

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Z3 side now

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lol still no sword on Z3

cold valve
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Thank for single arrow

dawn wigeon
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d'oh it stole a hint from me

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that's not what I hinted for

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Dessy-SMZ3's ProgressiveSword is at Ganons Tower - Map Chest in FlitterLttP's World. (not found)

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Dessy-SMZ3's Bow is at Stone Watcher Island - Cave in Toon Arti's World. (not found)
Dessy-SMZ3's Somaria is at Subcon Forest - Burning Forest Treehouse in A Chip in Time's World. (not found)

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Because it stole a hint I can no longer hint for Fire Rod

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But those are the big blockers for me now

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Also I need to hint for ProgressiveSword like 3 more times because that one isn't likely to be found for a long time

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Dessy-SMZ3 sent Bombchus to FlitterOoT (Mire Shed - Left)
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Gold Skulltula Token to GST (Hype Cave - NPC)
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Relic (Cow) to A Chip in Time (Hype Cave - Bottom)
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Progressive Boots to Paper Arti (Hype Cave - Middle Right)
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Letter to Dane T 2 to Paper Arti (Hype Cave - Top)

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Dessy-SMZ3 sent Gold Skulltula Token to GST (Palace of Darkness - The Arena - Bridge)
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Note to Mom to Toon Arti (Palace of Darkness - Compass Chest)
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Golden Feather to JayASH (Palace of Darkness - Dark Maze - Bottom)
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Gold Skulltula Token to GST (C-Shaped House)
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Small Key (Ganons Castle) to kr?t (Thieves' Town - Map Chest)
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Small Key (Fire Temple) to Meganoot (Thieves' Town - Ambush Chest)

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Also a few more Ice Traps for Meganoot

dawn wigeon
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Dessy-SM sent Time Piece to A Chip in Time (Missile (lava room))
Dessy-SM sent Faden, the Heretic to Ixlily (Wave Beam)

dawn wigeon
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Dessy-SM64 sent Multipurpose Room to Submega (Bowser in the Fire Sea Key)
Dessy-SM64 sent Skorch Egg to FlitterMS (DDD: Pole-Jumping for Red Coins)

weary lagoon
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thanks for progressive boots

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I need whatever the strength upgrade in wind waker is called to open up stone watcher isle

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I have quite a lot open now, especially in Paper Mario, but it's been a very busy weekend. I'm also waiting for Ixrec to play Ender Lillies as theres probably a bunch of keys in there and I dont want to traverse the world twice in quick succession

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Wind Waker is still swordless with 4 swords needed to beat Ganondorf so you're not alone there hehe

midnight depot
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Hi

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Let's play some archipelago

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Thank you for silver feather

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And enough shells to get the two checks behind them

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[Hint]: FlitterASH's Motorboat Key is at Misery Mire - Spikes Pot Key in FlitterLttP's World. (not found)
[Hint]: FlitterASH's Fishing Rod is at Blob Burg - Center Tunnel 2 in FlitterMS's World. (not found)

midnight depot
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FlitterMS sent Bottle with Fish to Meganoot (Sun Palace - Caretaker 3)

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Oops, I accidentally got an item on the wrong save

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Since it's impossible to continue the seed without it, I will just use admin commands to send myself an extra one

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FlitterMS sent Small Key (Catfish's Maw) to DrRomLADX (Ancient Woods - Upper Dungeon Entrance)

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FlitterMS sent Fishing Rod to JayASH (Ancient Woods - West Caves - High Ledge)

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FlitterMS sent KeyMM to Dessy-SMZ3 (Ancient Woods - Tree of Evolution Chest)
FlitterMS sent Progressive Power Jump to Paper Arti (Ancient Woods - Tree of Evolution Gift)

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I can finally evolve my motherfuckers

dawn wigeon
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Any thoughts on letting me get that Fire Rod hint since the Cape is a nearly useless item that I did not intend to hint?

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I typed "!hint Cane" and it said "oh yeah here's your Cape"

midnight depot
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Oh yeah

dawn wigeon
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Because I knew the names in SMZ3 were short but didn't know how they abbrevied Cane of Somaria

midnight depot
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It does that sometimes. Let me just give you the hint

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It's called Somaria

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Subcon Forest - Burning Forest Treehouse (A Chip in Time): Somaria (Dessy-SMZ3)

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I now have one copy of every evolved monster except ice stone, fire stone and deep stone

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Kruto's Letter for Ratta

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Kroomerang for Bratta

dawn wigeon
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Yeah so I had already hinted Somaria

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I figured that part out

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What happened though is I didn't have enough to hint Firerod

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After I BK'd last night I figured out what I needed for the remaining dungeons in case they are in w/e order, plus a sword so I could hit enemies (and eventually kill Ganon)

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So I went through the list and when I saw Cane of Somaria got messed up I fixed it but I didn't have enough for Firerod

midnight depot
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Stronghold Dungeon - West Corridor - Heavy Block (FlitterMS): Firerod (Dessy-SMZ3)

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I can go for that one

dawn wigeon
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Okay, much appreciated

midnight depot
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FlitterMS sent Scooter Badge to A Chip in Time (Stronghold Dungeon - Lower Ancient Woods Entrance)

cold valve
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thanks for catfish maw key

midnight depot
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FlitterMS sent Firerod to Dessy-SMZ3 (Stronghold Dungeon - West Corridor - Heavy Block)

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And also a power star for SM64

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FlitterMS sent Ocarina to DrRomLADX (Stronghold Dungeon - West Sewer)

cold valve
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yay

dawn wigeon
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oh nice SM64 has opened quite a bit then since I only needed one more star for the top area

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Also got Ground Pound which was the move hiding the most checks

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And I see I finally have a sword in SMZ3 ๐Ÿ˜„

tender pelican
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I have completed my game. That was fun. I'll definitely do the next one. I went ahead and released the last 6 items.

midnight depot
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Well done

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Llisandur sent Megaton Hammer to FlitterOoT (Level Forest - Kaeli)

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Thank you for megaton hammer

tender pelican
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That was hidden behind an item that I was waiting for that's nromally gotten at the very beginning of the game. XD

midnight depot
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We now have two games completed and a total of 2948/6965 checks, or about half the checks

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What item were you waiting for?

tender pelican
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Tree Wither, which also lets me get one of the companion characters. I think next time I'll change that flag so I can get the character without the item.

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There was another check that also required that character.

midnight depot
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I see

tender pelican
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I guess I could hint it just to see where it is. XD

midnight depot
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Hmm, progress in the Mystical Workshop is blocked by one more mystical workshop key

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I'll get more checks before hinting for that

cold valve
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ok, ocarina is at least 4 checks, let's go get those

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5 actually

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nothing great

midnight depot
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I like big potions

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FlitterMS sent Zipline Unlock - The Twilight Bell Path to A Chip in Time (Magma Chamber - Crumbling Bridge)

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Fishing rod for me

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FlitterMS sent Relic (Cool Cow) to A Chip in Time (Blob Burg - South Room - Upper Chest)

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That's enough for tonight

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[Hint]: FlitterMS's Mystical Workshop key is at Underworld - Crystal Room in FlitterMS's World. (not found) oh

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I guess I'm going to have to leave that part until the end of the game

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[Hint]: FlitterMS's Ancient Woods key is at Cliffside Hamlet 10 - Gerrod, the Elder Warrior in Ixlily's World. (not found)

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I need this to continue playing, or the sanctuary tokens we talked about earlier

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(I am level 25 now, so I'm almost to 30)

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Tomorrow, I'll play a Link to the Past

midnight depot
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Today I learned you can walk into and out of spirit trial for like 30 times and this will despawn the big pillar for light trial so you can just walk in

clear summit
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lol it just gave up

dawn wigeon
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So TTC is in HMC in my SM64

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And apparently when TTC is on a bonus stage, there are no hands

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So I had to do 8 red coins with spinning platforms

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And 100 coins with no time stop

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And every time I go to TTC I have to get to where metal cap is in HMC, which is way easier with Long Jump

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Needless to say, my SM64 yamls have been updated for the future

dawn wigeon
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Dessy-SM64 sent Gold Skulltula Token to GST (THI: 100 Coins)
Dessy-SM64 sent Treasure Chart 24 to Toon Arti (JRB: 100 Coins)
Dessy-SM64 sent Heart Container to Arti (MIPS 2)
Dessy-SM64 sent Yarn to A Chip in Time (BoB: Shoot to the Island in the Sky)
Dessy-SM64 sent Small Key Ring (Forest Temple) to FlitterOoT (DDD: 100 Coins)
Dessy-SM64 sent Pouch Upgrade to Paper Arti (WF: Fall onto the Caged Island)
Dessy-SM64 sent Progressive Jump Charge to Paper Arti (RR: Cruiser Crossing the Rainbow)
Dessy-SM64 sent Golden Feather to FlitterASH (RR: Somewhere Over the Rainbow)
Dessy-SM64 sent Strawberry to JayCEL (RR: The Big House in the Sky)
Dessy-SM64 sent Small Key (Gerudo Training Ground) to kr?t (HMC: Elevate for 8 Red Coins)
Dessy-SM64 sent Golden Feather to FlitterASH (Toad (Second Floor))
Dessy-SM64 sent Ice Trap to Meganoot (BoB: Mario Wings to the Sky)
Dessy-SM64 sent Ice Trap to Meganoot (WF: Chip Off Whomp's Block)
Dessy-SM64 sent Ice Trap to Meganoot (RR: Swingin' in the Breeze)

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I either need 10 more stars or Long Jump to finish SM64

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Alternatively Wing Cap and Vanish Cap can give some more checks

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All of which have already been hinted

midnight depot
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Hi. Let's play a link to the past

midnight depot
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FlitterLttP sent Headband to Ixbird (Palace of Darkness - Shooter Room)

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Is there a way to deal with red Goriyas other than bow?

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FlitterLttP sent Double Dash Refills to JayCEL (Palace of Darkness - Dark Maze - Bottom)
FlitterLttP sent Slingshot to Meganoot (Palace of Darkness - Compass Chest)

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FlitterLttP sent Ruins Key to Paper Arti (Palace of Darkness - Harmless Hellway)

clear summit
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I might release my Celeste64 at certain point

midnight depot
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Oh, you're not having fun?

clear summit
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It wasn't as interesting as I thought it would be and some stuff would be painful to reach

midnight depot
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That's fair

clear summit
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I may pick up a few more strawberries tho

midnight depot
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Let's stop here for now.

weary lagoon
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im so happy you sent me that key

midnight depot
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I should not have picked the inverted setting

weary lagoon
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now I can play the game without having to leave the ruins and backtrack later

midnight depot
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Making any progress is like pulling out teeth

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I need to figure out how to get to the light world still

weary lagoon
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Well we still have a 4.8% game that might have your mirror early rdsnrk

midnight depot
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Oh yeah I'll hint my mirror

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[Hint]: FlitterLttP's Magic Mirror is at Blind's Hideout - Far Left in FlitterLttP's World. (not found)

weary lagoon
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wow!

fresh hill
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oof

weary lagoon
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Thats in evil Kakariko I think

midnight depot
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Oh

fresh hill
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yeah

midnight depot
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I think I can get there

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I thought I cleared it though

weary lagoon
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oh no thats thieves hideout

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Blinds hideout is in nice Kakariko

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so you have to get to the light world without the mirror

midnight depot
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Bah

weary lagoon
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I have absolutely no idea how to leave the dark world without mirror.

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unless you can just save and quit and start at links house

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or die and do that

fresh hill
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aren't there still portals on a few bits of the dark world map? I feel like before you get the mirror you're meant to use those

midnight depot
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No, my warp points are dark world link's house and dark world chapel

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There are portals but I have no clue how to get to them

weary lagoon
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Is the only one on death mountain

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thats the only one I can think of

midnight depot
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Supposedly there's more

weary lagoon
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theres more that go light -> dark

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but after death mountain you have mirror

midnight depot
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Yes but in inverted they take you to light from dark

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Light world death mountain is completely isolated so the death mountain warp does not actually take you to light world

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This is another inverted change

weary lagoon
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in that case i remembet a warp south of kakariko and in the desert

midnight depot
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I do have the list of warps in the wiki but it's pretty hard to reach any of them and I'm not sure if their positions haven't changed

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Someone on the archipelago server says there's an easy one next to link's house but I couldn't find it

weary lagoon
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ye traversing the dark world is a massive pain because of how its split into sections

midnight depot
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Maaan

dawn wigeon
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If the portals are in the same spot there is one north of evil Kak

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You should be able to get to it without anything but you would need hammer to get out once you get to light world, or titan's mitt

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I actually never played inverted so idk

weary lagoon
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or save and quit once you go in migattenogokui

midnight depot
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Save and quit takes you back to the dark world

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It's evil

dawn wigeon
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If it's like normal randomizer logic you need to have mirror before you can save and quit to the other world

weary lagoon
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Im gonna play Paper Mario after dinner

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its gonna go really hard after a 116 hour break

dawn wigeon
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Have these games really not been played since the beginning of the month? Or have they just not connected properly since then?

weary lagoon
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the former

fresh hill
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Ixlily was fully BK'd at <5% until relatively recently, I haven't gotten back to it yet

dawn wigeon
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crazy

weary lagoon
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Jay just complained about Celeste earlier so maybe it sucks

midnight depot
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They may have been played but no checks have been sent

fresh hill
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yeah the last time I "played" Ixlily was to double-check that I was fully BK'd

midnight depot
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It is partially my fault for picking aLttP settings I couldn't handle

dawn wigeon
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Honestly just watching gameplay of Celeste 64 I'm not sure it's a game I would enjoy either

weary lagoon
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Idk why hes not playing rct that games a classic

fresh hill
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I barely survived regular Celeste, doubt I could handle 64

clear summit
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Celeste I will probably drop after 1~2 checks, RCT I was leaving it alone for a while due to tree removal and a bit of irl issue

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ASH was fine because I can play like for 3 minutes and grab like a check or two easily

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I'll play RCT soon

weary lagoon
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hey flitter did you buy my strength in oot

midnight depot
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Yes

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I think I did

weary lagoon
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

midnight depot
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If not I'll do it in half an hour

weary lagoon
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no you didnt bro I just checked my tracker

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YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

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its ok im playing paper mario today

weary lagoon
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bow and big key for flitterlttp

midnight depot
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Thanks. I definitely need those

midnight depot
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Let's play Monster Sanctuary

weary lagoon
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Thats all for Paper Mario

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I got those two items for lttp and two items for the super metroid zelda combo

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one I didnt understand one was a big key

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I still havent completed any dungeons / chapters

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because you need a hundred million different items for every chapter

midnight depot
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I'm pretty sure I accidentally hatched the one dodo egg instead of handing it to the scientist and now I'm locked out of one check until I find where dodos naturally spawn

fresh hill
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oh dear, of the two claw routes open to me now, one of them dead-ended with only two new rooms

dawn wigeon
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CardBrinstarBoss? Yeah so if you do keysanity in SMZ3 they add keys to the SM side

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They don't exist in the normal game

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But basically certain doors are grey and you can't open them until you get the key. The one you got lets me go after Kraid, which is actually the last boss I haven't defeated in SM

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He is required though as I need 7 crystals and 4 boss kills, and I know where the 3 pendants are

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So whatever he gives will be required for my goal

midnight depot
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FlitterMS sent KeyGT to Dessy-SMZ3 (Magma Chamber - North - Lever Puzzle)

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FlitterMS sent Metro Ticket - Yellow to A Chip in Time (Magma Chamber - Lava Pit - Lower Chest)

fresh hill
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2nd path is lasting much longer so far

midnight depot
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That's good

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I can't help but think I might be a bit underleveled

fresh hill
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oh boy, I found the room with eight entrances

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better save that until I've finished charting the rooms behind me

midnight depot
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Checklist for things I need to upgrade my equipment:
3 rubies
3 raspberries
2 cookie mushrooms
2 peanuts

fresh hill
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how important is this rdsnrk

midnight depot
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I found Tank

weary lagoon
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Once I have all 4 tingle statues I get one check

midnight depot
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I'm not ready for this room

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Thank you for reward box X

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Those have the best loot

fresh hill
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ok I'm at 21%, gonna stop here for tonight

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I still have dozens of unexplored paths

midnight depot
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How close are you to FlitterMS's Ancient Woods key is at Cliffside Hamlet 10 - Gerrod, the Elder Warrior in Ixlily's World. (not found)?

fresh hill
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because this is fine-grained ER, no way to know

midnight depot
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The game needs to put path text in the entrance field of the hint

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FlitterMS sent Nayru's Pearl to Toon Arti (Keeper Stronghold - Parents - Keeper Champion Gift)

fresh hill
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most rooms have multiple entrances, and there are probably several different ways I might end up there

midnight depot
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Hmm, what else do I need

fresh hill
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it's not like dungeon shuffle where only 5-10 entrances are being swapped with 5-10 zones, so meaningful directions can be given

weary lagoon
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thanks for the pearl

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thats 1/3 pearls to open a new dungeon

midnight depot
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Two more sanctuary tokens

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[Hint]: FlitterMS's Sanctuary Token is at Tough Bird Salesman Golden Feather 4 in Ixbird's World. (not found)

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[Hint]: FlitterMS's Sanctuary Token is at Dodongos Cavern MQ Deku Scrub Staircase in kr?t's World at Kakariko Village -> Bottom of the Well. (not found)

fresh hill
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to clarify what I mean by "fine-grained", the full Ender Lilies map looks like this:

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my in-game map currently looks like this: (and all of these white lines are lies, since the game doesn't understand I'm doing ER)

weary lagoon
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reminder to buy my strength before you go to bed so I can play oot tomorrow thumbsupcat

midnight depot
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Will do

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All right, Monster Sanctuary is completely blocked now, so let's finish with a little bit of OoT

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Thank you for forest temple boss key, magic, pack of magic beans, megaton hammer, forest temple key ring, more bombs

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What a fucking painful way to get to Kakariko

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FlitterOoT sent Stone Tablet Fragment to Ixlily (Kak Potion Shop Item 6)
FlitterOoT sent Laser Cutter Fragment to Submega (Kak Potion Shop Item 5)
FlitterOoT sent Progressive Strength Upgrade to Arti (Kak Bazaar Item 6)

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FlitterOoT sent Terrato to Dessy-FF6WC (Kak Potion Shop Item 8)

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Let's stop here for today

lament tusk
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Laser cutter fragment! I can explore more of the main ship now, and some wrecks

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Last one i needed

cold valve
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thanks for heart containers and nightmare key

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now i no longer have 3 hearts

dawn wigeon
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Dessy-SM64's Long Jump is at Bottom of the Well Invisible Chest in Meganoot's World at Zoras Fountain -> Jabu Jabus Belly Beginning. (not found)
@lament tusk any thoughts on picking this up? Looks like you've gotten most of the well items and you have the lens

lament tusk
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I need... oh no I can get that

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I'll do that later tho

weary lagoon
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Its OoTuesday

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after dinner

lament tusk
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oh right i need to get that check

weary lagoon
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Im in the fire temple

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anyone got any advice

midnight depot
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In a pinch you can throw bombs at flare dancers to knock them out without hookshot or megaton hammer

lament tusk
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dont walk in lava

lament tusk
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i usually just kill them before its an issue

midnight depot
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You can't even hit them without bombs, megaton hammer or hookshot

lament tusk
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usually use the hookshot

midnight depot
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Yeah, that's why I said "without hookshot or megaton hammer"

lament tusk
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i thought you needed the hookshot is what i meant, didnt realise you could use those other items instead

midnight depot
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You don't need the hookshot anywhere else in fire temple, aside from Pierre

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Hi. Let's play A Short Hike

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Top Spin for Jay

weary lagoon
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Fire temple down!!! 3/9!!!

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@fierce vale this is the most important item in the whole run rn

fierce vale
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paissapretty the full time rifts might be locked behind more yarn than i have (or paintings)

weary lagoon
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oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cold valve
clear summit
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I will have a short session of RCT today

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and then play it tomorrow

midnight depot
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[Hint]: FlitterASH's Camping Permit is at Nightmare Key/Torch Cross Chest (Catfish's Maw) in DrRomLADX's World. (not found)

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Thank you for claim check

clear summit
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Of course

midnight depot
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Now, I'm almost in BK mode, but technically catch all fish is a check, so I'm going to sit here for a while in fuckboy pond while I catch every fish

midnight depot
# clear summit

There's a button where you solve a question to get rid of all entertainers

clear summit
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Nah

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I can hypertap and remove them easily

midnight depot
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Sure. I use an autoclicker

clear summit
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This fucking check wants me to make 6 boat hires

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lol

midnight depot
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I had that many boat hires in bumbly beach

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Turns out it actually looks good when you have a row of boat hires on a flat beach

weary lagoon
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hookshot for Dessyre

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in combo game

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can I get to GTG toilet without hovers for the silver rupees

clear summit
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Wow that is one great coaster

midnight depot
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You can if you have a hookshot

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You still need song of time and iron boots for the check

clear summit
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Bomb for Rom

midnight depot
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Mine train coaster has high stats for how cheap it is

clear summit
#

What is going on

midnight depot
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You may have been supposed to start with it

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Yep

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Spoiler log says Starting Ride: Chairlift

clear summit
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Yeah

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But I somehow don't have it

weary lagoon
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GTG was in ice cavern so im very happy I could clear all of it in one go

midnight depot
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Just cheat it in

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Using the openrct2 menu in the top left

clear summit
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Yeah

weary lagoon
clear summit
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Flitter's Biggoron Sword

midnight depot
#

Thank you

clear summit
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Flitter's Bucket

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I am skipping this insane "7 steeplechase"

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That is a true insanity

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lol that was a silver feather

#

worth it

midnight depot
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You should have a copy paste version of rides like steeplechase that you can stamp down temporarily

clear summit
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Yeah I have for some

midnight depot
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Future versions of the randomizer cap it to 3 for rides that have a track

clear summit
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but 7 steeplechases is

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urgh

midnight depot
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Oh it's not a silver feather for a short hike

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It's a silver feather for monster sanctuary

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Useless

clear summit
#

Oh wow

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I got jebaited

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Finally

#

I can listen to the glorious Merry go round music

weary lagoon
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jabu jabu down!! 4/9!!

clear summit
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I haven't been really blocking people from progressing rdwut

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Most checks I am getting aren't useful

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That's for today

lament tusk
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flitter what was the custom command to add the auto opening of the script thing to launching emuhawk via steam? for some reason steam forgot about it as a non-steam game and so i need to rebuild that load order

midnight depot
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--lua=C:\ProgramData\Archipelago\data\lua\connector_oot.lua

lament tusk
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so i add that line to the custom launch options?

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yep thats it

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thanks

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@dawn wigeon this important?

dawn wigeon
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That lets me finish that game without having to wait for stars

clear summit
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What I learned from Celeste64 is that Celeste is a great game because it is 2d

lament tusk
#

also ixrec this is important:

dawn wigeon
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It's funny, that item didn't really unlock checks, but it's go more by itself so long as you have second key and both bowsers done

cold valve
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I am still largely blocked by feather, which is blocked by yarns(?)

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We may have a proto-Chain going

clear summit
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I am going to...release my Celeste 64 now

midnight depot
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Good luck

clear summit
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this game is driving me insane, the depth perception is horrible

midnight depot
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It's a shame you did not enjoy it

clear summit
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I cannot tell how far I jump

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or dash

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Badeline Cassette Strawberry sounds like the absolute last one

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iirc I got 13 checks and released 17. Probably at least like 8 of them were in the current sphere

lament tusk
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hope you find a game you enjoy more next time
not sure celeste is a game i would have enjoyed myself

clear summit
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I loved the og celeste.

midnight depot
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Celeste is way too stressful for archipelago

clear summit
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But Celeste 64 was a horrible experience.

lament tusk
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oooh celeste 64?

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whats the difference? is it 64 bit or 64 graphics?

clear summit
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As I said, I could not tell where I'll end up when I'm jumping/dashing

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It is 3D

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It tries to emulate the N64 feeling

lament tusk
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oh noooo

tender pelican
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N64 feeling is not a thing games should try to emulate. XD

midnight depot
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I don't know, Ocarina of Time is pretty good

tender pelican
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I'm not saying there's not good games on the system. But those games are good despite the jank, not because of it.

fresh hill
lament tusk
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yes can you get it for me

fresh hill
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I don't know but I'll check when I'm at home

lament tusk
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when you have money

fresh hill
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maybe people sent me enough coin items that I can just get it

midnight depot
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I also need the check after it

midnight depot
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Let's play Ocarina of Time

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Thanks for claim check, more magic, biggoron sword

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Inside Jabu Jabu lies Jabu Jabu's belly

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I love the octopus in Jabu Jabu dying in one hit

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It's so much easier to stun it then jumpslash with a stick than to keep doing the same chase sequence several times

weary lagoon
#

ye that was a game changer

midnight depot
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That's Barinade done

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He had Ganon's Castle small key and the spirit medallion

lament tusk
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Nice

midnight depot
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My tracker seems to think that Lab Tower Piece of Heart is reachable by child link

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Does anyone know about that?

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As far as I know you need a hookshot to reach it

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Hint: Lifting Darunia's mood has Zelda's lullaby for Kratta

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FlitterOoT sent Letter to Fice T to Paper Arti (ZD Shop Item 8)

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FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Water Temple) to kr?t (ZD Shop Item 7)

weary lagoon
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hookshot or bean dont see how you'd do it as child without giga glitches

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent BigKeySW to Dessy-SMZ3 (DMT GS Bean Patch)

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Yeah, maybe it's a tracker bug

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FlitterOoT sent Progressive Strength Upgrade to kr?t (GC Shop Item 5)

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FlitterOoT sent Small Key Ring (Water Temple) to Arti (GC Shop Item 6)

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FlitterOoT sent Time Piece to A Chip in Time (GC Shop Item 7)

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Let me hint for Zelda's Lullaby real quick
[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Zeldas Lullaby is at Outset Island - Savage Labyrinth - Floor 30 in Toon Arti's World. (not found)

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I need this to get Kratta's Zelda's lullaby

weary lagoon
#

oh god

midnight depot
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Which means it's super required for the seed

weary lagoon
#

someone find my wind waker mirror shield by tomorrow so I dont have to do two labyrinth trips please

midnight depot
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Wait never mind

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I can go to Darunia's room from the back

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I still need Zelda's lullaby eventually but it's not as important

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FlitterOoT sent Zeldas Lullaby to kr?t (GC Darunias Joy)

weary lagoon
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@wet field ITS ALL ON YOU BRO!!

midnight depot
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Let's take a break. When I'm back I will do adult link checks

weary lagoon
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wait

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I cant do savage labyrinth without a sword...

midnight depot
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All four of your swords are probably locked on my Link to the Past game

weary lagoon
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i think you got it confused it with Zelda Four Swords Adventure

fresh hill
lament tusk
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Yey

fresh hill
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and since I have the fishing rod, I'll snag just enough fish to get Flitter's thing too

midnight depot
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Thanks

fresh hill
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and we're done for today

midnight depot
#

Hell yeah

weary lagoon
#

do you guys think its rude to say smell ya later or just funny

midnight depot
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That's like my fourth or fifth

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I need five to access the endgame zones

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Smell ya later is usually hostile

weary lagoon
cold valve
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Smell ya later is something bad boy cartoon kids say in the 90s

weary lagoon
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Thats Kratta in my head

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent BigKeyDP to Dessy-SMZ3 (Fire Temple Near Boss Chest)

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No fire temple keys so that's the only check I can get

weary lagoon
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you can hover boots to volvagia ๐Ÿ˜Ž

midnight depot
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Oh yeah

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That's Volvagia done then

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FlitterOoT sent Treasure Chart 36 to Toon Arti (Fire Temple Volvagia Heart)

weary lagoon
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One of the best treasure charts

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Fire Arrows to Arti (ZR GS Near Raised Grottos)

weary lagoon
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one of the best arrows

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Letter to DrRomLADX (Gerudo Training Ground Heavy Block Third Chest)
FlitterOoT sent Yarn to A Chip in Time (Gerudo Training Ground Heavy Block Fourth Chest)

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Big Key (Palace of Darkness) to FlitterLttP (LW GS Above Theater)

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Thank god I found it before playing next

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My buttons are gone!

cold valve
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Imagine if you had to have someone else find your UI elements

weary lagoon
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like in ootmm the best rando

midnight depot
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That is an actual feature

cold valve
midnight depot
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You have to find ocarina buttons or else you can't use them

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Not yet in archipelago though

weary lagoon
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Because AP is 3 years behind on cool features

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Bolero of Fire to kr?t (GV GS Behind Tent)

weary lagoon
midnight depot
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That's enough OoT for today. I've done all of Water Temple that I could do without Zelda's Lullaby.

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Tomorrow I'm going for Forest Temple, Ice Cavern, Shadow Temple, Spirit Temple, (provided I have enough keys)

dawn wigeon
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SM64 done. Small release, not sure if the stick is important I'm pretty sure nothing else is

fresh hill
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I already have a Stick so in this case no

dawn wigeon
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Dessy-SMZ3 sent Gold Leaf to DrRomLADX (Spring Ball)
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Golden Feather to Ixbird (Energy Tank, Kraid)
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Construction Rights Discount to JayRCT (Paradox Cave Upper - Right)
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Rusted Blue Ornament to Ixlily (Paradox Cave Lower - Far Left)
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Magnifying Glass to DrRomLADX (Paradox Cave Lower - Left)
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Progressive Strength Upgrade to kr?t (Paradox Cave Lower - Far Right)
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Decayed Crown to Ixlily (Sick Kid)
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Relic (UFO) to A Chip in Time (Tower of Hera - Map Chest)
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Stagnant Blight x100 to Ixlily (Skull Woods - Bridge Room)
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Amulet Fragment to Ixlily (Skull Woods - Mothula)
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Small Key (Shadow Temple) to kr?t (Thieves' Town - Attic)
Dessy-SMZ3 sent Ice Trap to Meganoot (Sewers - Secret Room - Middle)

cold valve
#

lets play some LADX

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looks like 2 checks

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5 rupees for flitteroot

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ice trap for meganoot

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what a night

midnight depot
#

By Colby on OpenRCT2. Honestly, it should go pretty quickly. One of the improvements was changing from a timing system to a queue. So instead of getting a game and waiting around, it should instantly send out the next game. In fact, itโ€™s so quick that thereโ€™s sometimes an issue where packages run into each other. Fortunately, it should automatically resend any packages that donโ€™t make it through. The only issue is that sometimes it doesnโ€™t do that

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No wonder OpenRCT2 kept getting stuck at the stage where it retrieves the list of games in the multiworld

midnight depot
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Oh, after asking for clarification turns out he's using a set, not a queue

weary lagoon
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Woah Dessy saved Princess Peach

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4 games complete, 60% overall completion, 0/4 wind waker swords

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its just another classic WW run

midnight depot
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You gonna hint for a sword yet?

weary lagoon
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No that's never happening for the first one

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that will ruin the hype

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Imagine how pogged out of their gourd whoever gets the first one will be

fresh hill
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I might do another round of EL tonight and see if I find anything

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I think I've figured out how to format my ER notes to make the search more efficient

clear summit
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Ix's EL has a very high chance of having something

midnight depot
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Let's play OoT

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Progressive Sword to DrRomLADX (Wasteland Bombchu Salesman)

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It was a bitch and a half to reach this guy

weary lagoon
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Bro I read FlitterOoT sent Progressive Sword and jumped in my chair.... cmon..

dawn wigeon
midnight depot
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No, I want a visual graph

dawn wigeon
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I was just tracking SM64 in Notepad++, of course that game only has 20 entrances

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Install a mermaid plugin?

midnight depot
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I can keep entrances in my head

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Mermaid isn't fun

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I want to construct the graph visually too

dawn wigeon
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UML?

fresh hill
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maybe if I had extensive prior experience in a graph editing tool, but even then they'd likely get bogged down just as fast as text when I'm updating my notes several times a minute

midnight depot
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I don't actually know what UML is

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Oh

fresh hill
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Universal Markup Language, an attempt at standardizing shapes and stuff for flowcharts that was a huge fad a while back

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I never learned it properly but it was a fun meme

midnight depot
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UML is too generic. I want something specific where I can specify settings and conditions for types of entrances

clear summit
#

At certain point it's probably faster to just make one

wet field
#

I'm a bit surprised it doesn't exist yet

midnight depot
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Well I haven't looked to see if anyone made one

dawn wigeon
wet field
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Me neither!

dawn wigeon
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seriously though

midnight depot
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I have used mermaid before!

dawn wigeon
#

Ixrec might not have

midnight depot
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It's pretty good and gets my recommendation for creating flowcharts for computer science purposes

fresh hill
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I haven't specifically used mermaid, but I evaluated it once compared to a similar in-house graph tool

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so I'm very aware of what it can do

midnight depot
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The rolling goron gave me 200 rupees. Just enough to see what Medigoron has for sale

wet field
#

Real computer scientists notate their entrance rando graphs with latex packages

midnight depot
#

He had a power star

dawn wigeon
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I'm not a computer scientist, I'm a software engineer

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TBH I'm not sure how bad of performance you would get trying to build a whole game worth of flowchart

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It probably wouldn't really be good

fresh hill
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the other thing is that a complete graph of every single room and entrance isn't even what I want

wet field
#

I think it would get pretty hard to read especially with warp songs and stuff like that

fresh hill
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what I want is info about which rooms I haven't fully cleared, have unexplored entrances, and how to quickly get back to them when I can clear them

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e.g. I'll be rearranging my notes to compress the information about chunks of rooms that are fully cleared and between fast travel points so I know I'll never be going back to them

midnight depot
#

who you calling little

fresh hill
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e.g. when you found my claws, I just ctrl+f'd "claws" in my notes to find the two places to start looking around more

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anyway I'll figure it out when I get home and feel like playing

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working through this problem being fun is, like, the point of enabling ER

midnight depot
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Path traversal with favorite nodes and sorting by how close a node is to the "center" of a graph is what I want from that

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Basically I want a tool that helps me get out of dead ends without having to think about it each time

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It turns out I can't actually get to forest temple as adult link since the owl warp is the only way there until I have the song

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Fire temple needs keys, water temple needs zelda's lullaby, ice cavern needs a warp song

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I can do shadow temple!

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FlitterOoT sent Ruins Key to Paper Arti (Shadow Temple Map Chest)

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Oh yeah I don't have lens of truth

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I'll just have to do the leet gamer solution (save states)

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent BigKeyEP to Dessy-SMZ3 (Shadow Temple Compass Chest)

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FlitterOoT sent Power Bomb to Dessy-SM (Shadow Temple Invisible Blades Invisible Chest)

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FlitterOoT sent Biggoron Sword to Meganoot (Shadow Temple Falling Spikes Lower Chest)

lament tusk
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Ooo

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Sword

midnight depot
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FlitterOoT sent Golden Feather to FlitterASH (Shadow Temple GS Near Ship)

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Out of logic!

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Move the block here,

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Use hookshot to get up the stairs, then call pierre from here

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Then jump on the bloock and use the hookshot to hook onto Pierre

weary lagoon
#

this is great now we can full clear shadow without long shot

midnight depot
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Yeah, but I'm going to stop right here because I don't know how to get the ship to move without Zelda's lullaby

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Next I'm going to spirit temple

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I never considered that I couldn't ever buy this, so I'm actually reliant on someone finding it for me

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Oh, and I can't buy blue fire, so I need blue fire arrows

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And OoT is finally in BK mode

midnight depot
#

Let's play LttP

midnight depot
#

15 days in, I finally opened the first boss door

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It's Kholdstare!

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Fortunately I already have the "skip first phase of kholdstare" medallion

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And done

dawn wigeon
#

Ah yes nothing like beating boss 5 to get crystal 4 from dungeon 1

midnight depot
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FlitterLttP sent Small Key (Face Shrine) to DrRomLADX (Palace of Darkness - Map Chest)

midnight depot
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FlitterLttP sent Chain of Sorcery to Ixlily (Ice Palace - Map Chest)
FlitterLttP sent Star Piece to Paper Arti (Ice Palace - Big Key Chest)

weary lagoon
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thanks

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star pieces are useless so no need to note them

midnight depot
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New Check: Ice Palace - Iced T Room (85/281) This gave nothing?

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Oh apparently I already sent it before

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The boss of the ice palace is armos knights

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That's the second dungeon done

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A bottle can be found at catacombs 19 chain of sorcery in ixlily's world

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Let's stop here

weary lagoon
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500 rupees for a bathroom trap SXFAnyaWTF

cold valve
midnight depot
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Sounds good to me

cold valve
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I believe i have enough keys already

weary lagoon
#

this dungeon rando sucks..

fresh hill
#

sweet, I found the hype room

fresh hill
#

I think this is one of the more important items I've found today

midnight depot
#

Biggoron Sword is so nice

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Straight up quadruple the damage of the starting sword

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With jump slashes that deal eight times the damage

fresh hill
#

just passed 40%, the multiworld's averaging 60%, stopping here for tonight

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I think I've got my ER note strategy as optimized as it's gonna get, now I just need to get lucky and choose enough dead ends to start ruling out parts of the graph

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Ixlily sent MapDP to Dessy-SMZ3 (Witch's Thicket 15 - Dark Witch Eleine)
Ixlily sent Metro Ticket - Green to A Chip in Time (Catacombs 03 - Defense of the Twin Spires 2)
Ixlily sent Mog to Dessy-FF6WC (Verboten Domain 11 - Blighted Appendage)
Ixlily sent KeyTR to Dessy-SMZ3 (Ruined Castle 16 - 2nd Stagnant Blight x10)
Ixlily sent Camping Permit to JayASH (Ruined Castle 01 - Castle Town Maiden)
Ixlily sent Biggoron Sword to kr?t (Ruined Castle 19 - King's Note 1)
Ixlily sent Land Discount to JayRCT (Witch's Thicket 04 - Amulet Fragment)
Ixlily found their Stone Tablet Fragment (Stockade 09 - Stagnant Blight x30)

and a bunch of non-unique progression (E tanks, Time Pieces, Power Stars, etc)

midnight depot
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Land discounts become more and more valuable as the game progresses, until the end where you buy every tile on the map

cold valve
#

i am behind the average now

midnight depot
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It's okay because my link to the past is last

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As long as you're not below half the top percentage in the multiworld, you're probably fine because you might not have guaranteed progression left to do

fresh hill
#

well, the top percentage is already 100%

midnight depot
#

Correct

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Means that it's likely possible for anyone to reach 50%

wet field
#

that's a good item

lament tusk
#

flitter and ixrec i need these items when you get the chance

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also this arti please

fresh hill
#

oh, I think I have the headband for Sue

lament tusk
#

Thx

weary lagoon
#

what an insane check name

clear summit
#

The rabbit surely has a really bad name

midnight depot
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I need my ancient woods key before I can go to horizon beach

lament tusk
# fresh hill done

just need the boss key to finish the fire temple
the most usefull items i got were a time piece and a power star
and the power star is for a game that was released...

fierce vale
#

@weary lagoon and @weary lagoon can you get these for me

midnight depot
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Hey I love heart containers

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Especially since I got rid of dark link early

weary lagoon
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For the bottom one I need toy train

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I dont remember what angular isles needs, maybe hookshot

cold valve
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I'm hoping we can blow this open this weekend

midnight depot
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No, I'm not playing much until Monday

midnight depot
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Works with biggoron sword and giant's knife

weary lagoon
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im stretched really thin but ill play some tomorrow

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dont think i have that much to do though, probably mostly wind waker.

weary lagoon
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Hello, let's play Wind Waker!!!

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Day 18 no sword

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two bananas for flitter

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Cane of Byrna for Flitter

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Fenryr for completed game

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Byrna

weary lagoon
#

My Boomerang!

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perfect timing right before a big octo lol

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Ion battery

lament tusk
#

oooh neat

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not in any way necessary, but neat

weary lagoon
#

hooooooooooly hell

lament tusk
#

only 18 days in

weary lagoon
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now I can get dessys bow

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flitters lullaby

lament tusk
#

nice!

weary lagoon
#

but im gonna wait with the lullaby because flitter is busy this weekend and kratta might get my mirror shield so I dont have to do savage labyrinth twice

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not really sure he never responded to my hint

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never had hurricane spin with the small sword before

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@dawn wigeon bow get

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crayon box relic for chip

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ive found out i need mirror shield to get the painting

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Forbidden woods down!!!!

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thats all for now. Only check left is savage labyrinth

weary lagoon
#

oh actually maybe I cant fly all the way to the labyrinth without double magic ppenk

fierce vale
#

@weary lagoon CoolCat bunch of you items

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also other people but

weary lagoon
#

the biggoron sword is in my reach

fierce vale
#

paissapretty i remain on pace for completing the game by the end of the month

midnight depot
#

Hi. I said I won't play today but I got Zelda's Lullaby so I gotta

weary lagoon
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no you didnt

midnight depot
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Oh I guess not

weary lagoon
#

Looks like I CAN fly there with low magic so I can get it later today if I have time

midnight depot
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No no, it's fine