Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer | Manechat | Page 35

fresh hill Apr 14, 2024, 11:49 PM

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the answer is 84

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marblegrump

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well 85 should come momentarily then

wet field Apr 14, 2024, 11:51 PM

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what's that?

fresh hill Apr 14, 2024, 11:52 PM

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lore entry, i.e. filler

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just found an item in my own Psychonauts world that unlocks a whole other Psychonauts area

midnight depot Apr 14, 2024, 11:56 PM

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I like it when that happens only once or twice a game

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Thanks for Bolero of Fire

fresh hill Apr 15, 2024, 12:16 AM

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gasp

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the Megaphone was in my own world the whole time, good thing I didn't hint that

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 12:17 AM

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Why's the UI aspect ratio off?

fresh hill Apr 15, 2024, 12:17 AM

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is it?

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 12:18 AM

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Things look a bit wider than they should, but the text looks fine

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That's enough for tonight

fresh hill Apr 15, 2024, 12:19 AM

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and that's Black Velvetopia (the bullfight-themed mind) fully cleared

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and with Megaphone discovered, UT confirms Next To Oatmeal is in logic

shy oyster Apr 15, 2024, 12:46 AM

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what game is this

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 12:47 AM

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Psychonauts

fresh hill Apr 15, 2024, 1:08 AM

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oh, there's a release candidate for AP 0.4.6 already; apparently this is going to be a mostly bugfix release (there were a few bad ones in 0.4.5) with no new games so probably no one needs to update

fresh hill Apr 15, 2024, 1:24 AM

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where the heck is the oatmeal

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Ixnaut sent Stage 3 to JayROR ((THCW) Next to Oatmeal)

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@clear summit

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ok, that's it for the theater until my 2nd candle is found

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and I'm rank 89 now

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Ixnaut sent Pages 24-25 (Prayer) to Ixfox ((RANK) PSI Rank 85)

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for those unfamiliar with Tunic, that's one of the biggest items progression items in the game

clear summit Apr 15, 2024, 1:32 AM

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ccloudypog

fresh hill Apr 15, 2024, 1:32 AM

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though because of which ladders I'm missing and which other key items I already have, it opened up only 3 locations, which is way less than usual

clear summit Apr 15, 2024, 1:32 AM

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So many checks will be done in about 8-9 hours

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Probably like

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100

fresh hill Apr 15, 2024, 2:08 AM

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you ever revisit something from your childhood and get slightly shocked at how dark it really was

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anyway Meat Circus is done, which I believe makes the whole Psychonauts slot BK again

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 2:09 AM

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No

clear summit Apr 15, 2024, 2:10 AM

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For some reason I saw dark things as dark even when I was young

fresh hill Apr 15, 2024, 2:11 AM

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I think I usually did

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like, I've been meaning to rewatch Watership Down, and I'm under no illusions about what happens to the rabbits in that movie

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ok... that put my slots at 74%, 51%, 73%, 42% with the overall multiworld at 64%

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pretty sure all of my unfound hinted items are unreachable, two of them I've already hinted a requirement for

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so I should be good to focus on other stuff for a bit

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 2:21 AM

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Good work

fresh hill Apr 15, 2024, 2:34 AM

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hm, looking at all our slots in % order, my %s range from barely above average to almost last place

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I take this as evidence that I picked the right amount of game for me this month

clear summit Apr 15, 2024, 10:22 AM

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Oooooooh time to do some checks

clear summit Apr 15, 2024, 11:05 AM

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Fire temple small key to Mega, Iron to Artiks, Merry Go Round for Flitter

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Small Key(Angler's Tunnel) to Rom

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Wristwatch for Flitter

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lol you didn't collect

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 11:08 AM

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I don't collect unless someone wants me to because for some games this can make things annoying

clear summit Apr 15, 2024, 11:09 AM

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Spirit Temple Boss Key for Flitter

fresh hill Apr 15, 2024, 11:10 AM

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yeah we generally don't !collect

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the one or two times it happened it mostly just created confusion

clear summit Apr 15, 2024, 11:16 AM

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I see

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Megaton Hammer for kratta

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Golden Feather for Ixrec

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Turkey Sandwich for Ixrec

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Gold Watch for Ixrec

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Magic Meter for Flitter

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 11:29 AM

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That's my second one. Thanks!

clear summit Apr 15, 2024, 11:30 AM

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Water Temple Boss Key for Mega

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Classic Mini Roller Coaster for Flitter

clear summit Apr 15, 2024, 11:58 AM

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Flippers for @cold valve

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Monorail for Flitter

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 12:02 PM

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Thank you

cold valve Apr 15, 2024, 12:17 PM

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Sweet

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 12:40 PM

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Let's play OpenRCT2

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Thanks for all the items but it looks like I can't get any new checks on it yet

clear summit Apr 15, 2024, 12:48 PM

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Yikes.

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 1:09 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/qankxE8.png

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This may be the first time that a single small key is the last thing I need to finish the game

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And the game won't even let me hint for it

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Oh!

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That's because I already fucking got it

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It was the Gerudo Valley cow

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I didn't even know cows are randomized

clear summit Apr 15, 2024, 1:12 PM

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Do you think I have enough drones

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 1:13 PM

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You're not even engineer

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 1:31 PM

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Time to do bongo bongo

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Thanks for the timely ice trap

clear summit Apr 15, 2024, 1:36 PM

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enough loop, I'm gonna clear

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 1:36 PM

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Good luck

clear summit Apr 15, 2024, 1:38 PM

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Jesus christ

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Literally can't be smaller

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gg

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 1:49 PM

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JayROR (Team #1) has completed their goal.

cold valve Apr 15, 2024, 1:50 PM

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midnight depot `JayROR (Team #1) has completed their goal.`

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 1:55 PM

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Thank you for Zora Tunic

clear summit Apr 15, 2024, 2:03 PM

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Wow Avery sucks at racing

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 2:05 PM

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Can't make the game too hard

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She's good at racing if you have no silver feathers

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[Hint]: Meganoot's Boss Key (Ganons Castle) is at Jabu Jabus Belly Boomerang Chest in OoTFlitter's World. (not found)

clear summit Apr 15, 2024, 2:18 PM

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Cool, now only Wristwatch, 3 Fishing checks, and 400 gold tuition are left

wet field Apr 15, 2024, 2:26 PM

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midnight depot `JayROR (Team #1) has completed their goal.`

Hell yeah. And that means it's hammer time 🔨

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 2:30 PM

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[Hint]: Meganoot's Slingshot is at Ganons Castle Spirit Trial Invisible Chest in OoTFlitter's World. (not found)

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[Hint]: OoTFlitter's Dins Fire is at Catacombs 11 - Stagnant Blight x10 in Ixlily's World. (not found) @fresh hill if you can reach it

fresh hill Apr 15, 2024, 2:32 PM

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should be easy, iirc Catacombs was all green except for the Unlock bits

fresh hill Apr 15, 2024, 3:13 PM

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...I did more of Catacombs last time than I thought

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maybe I should've just finished it off back then

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he died as he lived: building sandcastles

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anyway there's your thingy

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 3:17 PM

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Thanks!

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That should let me into what replaced shadow temple

cold valve Apr 15, 2024, 3:18 PM

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I will resume my game this evening, i should have tons of stuff to do

fresh hill Apr 15, 2024, 3:21 PM

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and now the Catacombs are BK'd

weary lagoon Apr 15, 2024, 3:35 PM

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wow someone found the earthquake tm

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thats a strong move

weary lagoon Apr 15, 2024, 4:34 PM

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I found an ice trap in the ice path

weary lagoon Apr 15, 2024, 5:20 PM

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Looks like Blue is ten times stronger than the other Kanto gym leaders

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 6:53 PM

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Hi. Let's play OoT some more

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The tracker thinks I can get here

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https://i.imgur.com/sPGgoBU.png

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How?

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No longshot. Haven't beaten morpha

weary lagoon Apr 15, 2024, 7:14 PM

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i thought you did need longshot

cold valve Apr 15, 2024, 7:15 PM

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Can you hover boots, and jump slash into a 360° noscope hookshot

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 7:16 PM

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No hover boots

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OoTFlitter sent Hidden Realm: Bazaar Between Time to JayROR (HF GS Cow Grotto)

weary lagoon Apr 15, 2024, 7:19 PM

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thanks

shy oyster Apr 15, 2024, 7:40 PM

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Megaton Hammer for Mega

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 7:47 PM

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Hell yeah, thank you!

shy oyster Apr 15, 2024, 7:48 PM

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that advancement took so long lol

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 7:49 PM

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I'll be sure to make it to good use

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What do you need to finish the game?

shy oyster Apr 15, 2024, 7:57 PM

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me ? nothing anymore. i can craft diamond tools and armour, but i'd like to enchant my stuff and also get more arrows

weary lagoon Apr 15, 2024, 7:57 PM

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you can finish the game at 31%?

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what a messed up video game

shy oyster Apr 15, 2024, 7:59 PM

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i mean, i have all the advancements i need for the Ender Dragon to spawn

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so really it's just a matter of finding the stronghold at this point

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omg i just remembered i can get a bunch of books from a stronghold library to beef up my enchanting

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 8:12 PM

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I have fully fucking mapped this bitch https://i.imgur.com/M21dTwO.png

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Turns out I need songs to reach more places

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OoTFlitter sent Sasha's Mind to Ixnaut (Wasteland Chest)

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So all of these locations are guaranteed to be inaccessible https://i.imgur.com/bIeUOVG.png

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I can finally stop playing and wait for someone else to find my stuff

weary lagoon Apr 15, 2024, 8:24 PM

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nicely done

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 8:25 PM

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Turns out, Sacred Forest Meadow, Zora Fountain (including Jabu Jabu's belly) and Desert Colossus are out of the loop and are not physically accessible without songs

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[Hint]: Meganoot's Slingshot is at Forest Temple First Stalfos Chest in OoTFlitter's World. (not found) Goddammit

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Both slingshots are inaccessible

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Fuck the slingshot https://i.imgur.com/3zCVh28.png

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shy oyster Apr 15, 2024, 9:06 PM

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ive moved into a stronghold

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but i need one more eye of ender to activate the portal

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 9:09 PM

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Oh that's annoying

shy oyster Apr 15, 2024, 9:12 PM

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yeah

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 9:15 PM

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I'm going through the manual tracker and clearing out every beehive for Meganought's game

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 9:46 PM

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Wallet for Artiks

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 10:01 PM

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Volvagia is done. That's every dungeon reward

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And that's every beehive

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Goron Tunic for Artiks

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 10:27 PM

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That's a complete seed https://i.imgur.com/ogDswta.png

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The only items I'm missing are the slingshot checks, the strength checks

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And the only item I need is Ganon's boss key

cold valve Apr 15, 2024, 10:50 PM

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ok let's play link's awakening

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wow that's a lot of things

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thanks, y'all!

shy oyster Apr 15, 2024, 10:53 PM

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youre welcome

cold valve Apr 15, 2024, 10:57 PM

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wallet for ootflitter

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 10:59 PM

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Thanks

cold valve Apr 15, 2024, 11:03 PM

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wow, my boss item was a GST for ootflitter

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are those really progression items

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level 7 done

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 11:03 PM

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They are technically required for progression.

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There are five checks locked behind finding 10, 20... 50 of them

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And you can make it so finding a certain number unlocks your rainbow bridge or ganon's boss key

cold valve Apr 15, 2024, 11:06 PM

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car ride for rctflitter

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floral scorcress for ixlily

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land discount for rctflitter

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construction rights discount for rctflitter

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 11:26 PM

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Oh yeah I still need those

cold valve Apr 15, 2024, 11:26 PM

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another wallet for ootflitter

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 11:26 PM

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Oh!

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That's the last wallet I need.

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I should be able to get any item in shops

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And I thought I was gonna stop playing for tonight

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We sent the same item seconds from each other

cold valve Apr 15, 2024, 11:33 PM

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fishing rod for @clear summitASH

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lover's letter for ixlily

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 11:36 PM

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Blue questagon for Ixrec

cold valve Apr 15, 2024, 11:39 PM

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stick for jayash for boss item lol

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level 5 complete

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pokeball for artiks, i think those are important to pokemon lol

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 11:48 PM

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OoTFlitter sent Hidden Realm: A Moment, Fractured to JayROR (Market Potion Shop Item 7)

cold valve Apr 15, 2024, 11:49 PM

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snowstorm for rctflitter, seashell mansion

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 11:50 PM

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Storms are nice in a synchronous game since they make them buy umbrellas

cold valve Apr 15, 2024, 11:58 PM

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bloodied note 3 for ixlily

midnight depot Apr 15, 2024, 11:58 PM

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Those are lore items that do nothing

cold valve Apr 16, 2024, 12:07 AM

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ok i'm BK'd again, here's my summary for tonight

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i jumped from 60% to 82%

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@shy oyster

midnight depot Apr 16, 2024, 12:10 AM

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Long screen

cold valve Apr 16, 2024, 12:10 AM

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yeah it's my discord monitor

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also @shy oyster

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i have 1 hint left for the moment, i will save it

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actually

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@fresh hill this will get me the rest of the non-nightmare checks in level 6

wet field Apr 16, 2024, 12:14 AM

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cold valve yeah it's my discord monitor

Hell yeah 🤝

cold valve Apr 16, 2024, 12:20 AM

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i'm blocked on the nightmare keys i've hinted for, 1 small key for key cavern, and the angler key to get into level 4

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oh and ballad of the wind fish

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all of that and i can complete my goal

midnight depot Apr 16, 2024, 12:21 AM

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Did anybody say

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cold valve Apr 16, 2024, 12:23 AM

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oh i also need the nightmare key (face shrine), but i don't have the points to hint for it

cold valve Apr 16, 2024, 12:24 AM

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midnight depot

what is this from? it's nice

midnight depot Apr 16, 2024, 12:24 AM

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Ocremix. It's a remix of the ballad of the windfish

cold valve Apr 16, 2024, 12:25 AM

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i haven't looked at ocremix in a long time

midnight depot Apr 16, 2024, 12:26 AM

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It's part of https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR03977

OC ReMix

The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening "Le Mystère du Poisson-Rêve" ...

OC ReMix presents a FREE video game remix MP3: The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening "Le Mystère du Poisson-Rêve" by Doc Nano

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Er

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https://ocremix.org/album/92/songs-of-the-sirens-links-awakening-remixed

OC ReMix

Songs of the Sirens: Link's Awakening ReMixed

Album: Songs of the Sirens: Link's Awakening ReMixed [Arrangement, 2019-09-20, OCRA-0071] - 6 Games, 21 Artists - Featuring the music of Super Mario 64, Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening, The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening DX, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina...

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An album of remixes

cold valve Apr 16, 2024, 12:28 AM

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this one was my favorite from back in the day

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oh god this song is older than many people in this server

shy oyster Apr 16, 2024, 12:36 AM

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cold valve also <@149966637385121792>

i can probablt get this one soon

shy oyster Apr 16, 2024, 12:37 AM

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cold valve <@149966637385121792>

idk where a swamp is but i'll go looking for this one

clear summit Apr 16, 2024, 3:47 AM

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By catching every fishes I have been awarded

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200 rupies of Arti

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Only wristwatch left

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So basically done

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LITERALLY THE LAST ITEM

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cadancewheeze

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fresh hill Apr 16, 2024, 6:37 AM

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midnight depot Blue questagon for Ixrec

that’s my last final boss key, but I’m nowhere near reaching the place where I put the keys in (need various ladders and the lantern I think)

fresh hill Apr 16, 2024, 6:46 AM

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cold valve <@283037539755884554> this will get me the rest of the non-nightmare checks in l...

looks like I can just barely get this one

fresh hill Apr 16, 2024, 7:46 AM

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cold valve <@283037539755884554> this will get me the rest of the non-nightmare checks in l...

all right, with @cold valve 's bracelet acquired I've done almost everything there is to do in Verboten Domain for now

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most of the rest requires either Unlock (like Artiks' sword), which I hinted before, or:

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and I believe that requires...

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so @wet field

weary lagoon Apr 16, 2024, 7:54 AM

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my sword?

fresh hill Apr 16, 2024, 7:55 AM

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Biggoron Sword

weary lagoon Apr 16, 2024, 7:55 AM

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But you sent me that

fresh hill Apr 16, 2024, 7:55 AM

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whoops

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sorry, multiworld tracker is bad at sorting sometimes

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your Card Key I mean

weary lagoon Apr 16, 2024, 7:55 AM

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I do need that

fresh hill Apr 16, 2024, 7:56 AM

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now that Jay has "Stage 3" we should probably ask what else is needed to reach "Abyssal Depths: Shrine 2" where my Unlock is

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@clear summit iirc you said "Abyssal Depths: Shrine 2" requires more than just "Stage 3"?

clear summit Apr 16, 2024, 7:58 AM

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krøt JayROR Abyssal Depths DMC Deku Scrub Grotto Center

fresh hill Apr 16, 2024, 7:58 AM

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lol and it's back to kratta

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both in DMC though

clear summit Apr 16, 2024, 7:59 AM

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Your Ladder to East Forest also requires something from kratta

fresh hill Apr 16, 2024, 7:59 AM

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fortunately that one turned out to be less critical than we thought, but would still be nice to have that whole area available

clear summit Apr 16, 2024, 7:59 AM

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krøt JayROR Sundered Grove Dodongos Cavern King Dodongo Heart Ocarina of Time ZF Ice Ledge -> Ice Cavern Beginning

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My post-plantera is also in kratta's game

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No pressure

fresh hill Apr 16, 2024, 8:01 AM

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that game is at 51% now, and iirc was blocked at a low % for a while

wet field Apr 16, 2024, 2:29 PM

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clear summit > krøt JayROR Sundered Grove Dodongos Cavern King Dodongo Heart Ocar...

I need to find the fire temple boss key for that

weary lagoon Apr 16, 2024, 3:00 PM

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Hello

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strength upgrade for megaflitter

midnight depot Apr 16, 2024, 3:04 PM

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Oh that unlocks light trial chests

weary lagoon Apr 16, 2024, 3:05 PM

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16 porkchops for @shy oyster

shy oyster Apr 16, 2024, 3:12 PM

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epic

fresh hill Apr 16, 2024, 3:34 PM

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how useful are filler items like food and ore and so on in AP Minecraft

midnight depot Apr 16, 2024, 3:34 PM

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Depends on the in game difficulty

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In hard, not eating can kill you

fresh hill Apr 16, 2024, 3:34 PM

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my expectation would be that after a few hours you've done the standard early game setup with farms for important resources and it's mostly worthless after that

midnight depot Apr 16, 2024, 3:35 PM

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lmao farm

fresh hill Apr 16, 2024, 3:35 PM

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oh does AP change things to create genuine scarcity?

midnight depot Apr 16, 2024, 3:35 PM

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No

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The way I normally play Minecraft is I never set up any sort of farm because it's less effort to just collect food as I explore

clear summit Apr 16, 2024, 3:37 PM

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food basically is almost never a major problem

fresh hill Apr 16, 2024, 3:37 PM

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true, I'm too used to watching LPs from the kind of player that spends a week designing the optimal iron farm that involves clearing a square mile of Nether first

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but for food I just meant put two cows in a pen and breed them occasionally

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and/or plant wheat to make bread

midnight depot Apr 16, 2024, 3:38 PM

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Or I could kill two cows and have enough food for the three hours it takes to beat the game

fresh hill Apr 16, 2024, 3:38 PM

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lol

weary lagoon Apr 16, 2024, 3:38 PM

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@fresh hillshould I spend 270 rupees on adhorents letter

fresh hill Apr 16, 2024, 3:38 PM

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nah that's just lore

cold valve Apr 16, 2024, 3:38 PM

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I keep a small carrot farm, enough to replenish my stack of carrots easily

fresh hill Apr 16, 2024, 3:39 PM

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EL doesn't have a Ruto's Letter, if it sounds like a piece of paper then it's just lore

clear summit Apr 16, 2024, 3:39 PM

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Big problem with Minecraft Archipelago is that it makes the game quite...tedious, and the whole randomizer thing is basically Achievement hunting

wet field Apr 16, 2024, 3:39 PM

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fresh hill nah that's just lore

Lore is important. Do you wish to live in ignorance?

cold valve Apr 16, 2024, 3:39 PM

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Because i don't have to do anything else to them after i plant and harvest

fresh hill Apr 16, 2024, 3:39 PM

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~~other than add the gold~~

cold valve Apr 16, 2024, 3:40 PM

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Nope, just regular-ass carrots

fresh hill Apr 16, 2024, 3:44 PM

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looks like I have all the extra heal relics, so I think the only important EL items I'm missing are Unlock and Lance

shy oyster Apr 16, 2024, 3:45 PM

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i havent had to set up a animal farm because of all the porkchops ive been sent lol

clear summit Apr 16, 2024, 3:46 PM

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Yeah Archipelago sends you stupid amount of resources

weary lagoon Apr 16, 2024, 3:49 PM

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who is hype for horseback archery

midnight depot Apr 16, 2024, 3:51 PM

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Me!

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You should do mine for me

weary lagoon Apr 16, 2024, 3:54 PM

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Fossil and giants knife!

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a quick peek at the website tells me im in BK for the first time this month

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(I could grind out 5-10 levels on all my pokemon to beat Blue for one check)

wet field Apr 16, 2024, 4:00 PM

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weary lagoon who is hype for horseback archery

That's unironically my favorite check

midnight depot Apr 16, 2024, 7:22 PM

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Hello

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Let's play videogames

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Thank me for Steeplechase

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Another RCT branch done. Three left https://i.imgur.com/T6EktSm.png

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To finish the game I need several goals

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Pave over the residential area and build a big theme park over it to attract guests, make tons of money, have enough rollercoasters

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https://i.imgur.com/PHY580G.png

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And have one bobsleigh ride, wooden wild mouse, go kart, miniature railway, chairlift, steeplechase, twist, dodgems, observation tower and monorail

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For these rides, I'm missing wooden wild mouse and go kart

midnight depot Apr 16, 2024, 7:49 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/mqh7Viq.png

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The very final check I can do is the slingshot-requiring one

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Meganoot's Boss Key (Ganons Castle) is at Jabu Jabus Belly Boomerang Chest in OoTFlitter's World. (not found)

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Please find me more songs so I can get this

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Now, OoTFlitter is still in BK mode, but

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What if I were to megaflip past the bridge in shadow temple so I don't actually need hover boots?

weary lagoon Apr 16, 2024, 7:55 PM

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What if I were to purchase megaflips and disguise it as my own hover boots..

midnight depot Apr 16, 2024, 7:57 PM

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Yes that's the tone I wanted to convey

cold valve Apr 16, 2024, 7:57 PM

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Artiks what did you need still to get the angler key in your twinrova check?

weary lagoon Apr 16, 2024, 7:58 PM

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ChisatoXD

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Mirror shield

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Progressive strength

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spirit temple boss key

midnight depot Apr 16, 2024, 7:59 PM

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Twinrova heart needs mirror shield, two strengths a hookshot, and the boss key

cold valve Apr 16, 2024, 7:59 PM

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Yikes

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And meganoot's wallet is in that dungeon

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Angler's Tunnel

midnight depot Apr 16, 2024, 8:00 PM

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It's okay, Meganoot doesn't need any items anymore

cold valve Apr 16, 2024, 8:00 PM

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Now, as soon as i get that key to get in. I already have everything i need to 100% the checks in there

midnight depot Apr 16, 2024, 8:00 PM

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I got literally everything in the game

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473/477 The only missing checks are junk checks

cold valve Apr 16, 2024, 8:01 PM

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Ah ok

midnight depot Apr 16, 2024, 8:01 PM

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And the one that needs slingshot

cold valve Apr 16, 2024, 8:01 PM

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But i still need the instrument at least

midnight depot Apr 16, 2024, 8:01 PM

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Oh I should double check what items exist there

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Oh one of them is a small key. Is it Kratta's?

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https://i.imgur.com/1mLkp3P.png

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weary lagoon Apr 16, 2024, 8:03 PM

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LOOOOL

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shuffling in the cows includes Links house cow

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I wonder if Mega had any idea what that needs when he put it on rdsnrk

cold valve Apr 16, 2024, 8:04 PM

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I think i might shuffle doors next time

lament tusk Apr 16, 2024, 8:25 PM

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weary lagoon I wonder if Mega had any idea what that needs when he put it on <:rdsnrk:5877803...

I did, yes

midnight depot Apr 16, 2024, 8:25 PM

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That was easy https://i.imgur.com/8ZSc40n.png

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Wooden wild mouse for me

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Gerudo training ground key for Kratta

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Seashell for Ixrec

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Rod of discord for Jay

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Might need to do another megaflip or something here https://i.imgur.com/o1M6X72.png

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weary lagoon Apr 16, 2024, 8:39 PM

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invisible hookshot target above there.

midnight depot Apr 16, 2024, 8:40 PM

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Need a longer hookshot

weary lagoon Apr 16, 2024, 8:40 PM

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No you can backflip up onto the chest and reach

midnight depot Apr 16, 2024, 8:40 PM

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I asked the archipelago server and they said that.

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Thanks!

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It did work, but now I can't proceed because I don't have iron boots

weary lagoon Apr 16, 2024, 8:41 PM

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only longshot check in shadow is the scarecrow skull

midnight depot Apr 16, 2024, 8:41 PM

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Oh wait, iron boots are not necessary. Timing will do it

weary lagoon Apr 16, 2024, 8:42 PM

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thats right im sure ive done that part without iron boots

midnight depot Apr 16, 2024, 8:42 PM

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Another seashell for Ixrec

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Okay. NOW I'm hard blocked https://i.imgur.com/TEuJ7wT.png

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Need Zelda's lullaby and longshot

weary lagoon Apr 16, 2024, 8:47 PM

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you can swim to the next area with flippers

midnight depot Apr 16, 2024, 8:47 PM

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I wish I had those

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Let's stop here now that I can't get anything else

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A hint costs 43 points. You have 40 points. dammit

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Okay. Tomorrow I'm grinding out the money required to buy the junk items in shops so I can afford a hint

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The items I need are: Requiem of Spirit, Minuet of Forest, Zelda's Lullaby, Hover Boots, Iron Boots, Hookshot, Mirror Shield, and maybe more

cold valve Apr 16, 2024, 11:23 PM

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let's play link's awakening

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thanks for bracelet

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TM01 Dynamic Punch for artiks

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progressive levitation 2 for ixnaut

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golden feather for jayash

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zelda's lullaby for flitteroot

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i tihnk that's a big one

cold valve Apr 16, 2024, 11:38 PM

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midnight depot The items I need are: Requiem of Spirit, Minuet of Forest, Zelda's Lullaby, Hove...

got one!

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bk'd again, but now i only need the nightmare key to complete level 6

midnight depot Apr 17, 2024, 12:43 AM

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Zelda's lullaby is a lot of checks!

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I'm going to use it for bottom of the well first, then try to do shadow temple with two megaflips

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That would be fun

cold valve Apr 17, 2024, 12:45 AM

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yay

midnight depot Apr 17, 2024, 1:28 AM

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Hi. I can't sleep so let's play OoT

midnight depot Apr 17, 2024, 1:44 AM

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[Hint]: OoTFlitter's Iron Boots is at Gerudo Training Ground Hidden Ceiling Chest in OoTFlitter's World. (not found)

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Gerudo Training Ground small key for Kratta

midnight depot Apr 17, 2024, 2:36 AM

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Musket for Ixrec

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https://i.imgur.com/48LlSfV.png

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Two megaflips done. I'm getting the hang of that trick

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Now, the boss will bongo his last bongo

shy oyster Apr 17, 2024, 2:43 AM

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why are you in a crystal

midnight depot Apr 17, 2024, 2:44 AM

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Nayru's love protects me

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Also makes it easier to do a megaflip

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https://i.imgur.com/hE2KqH5.png

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The boss had the song!

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If I can finish forest temple, that's everything I need to finish the game tonight

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OoTFlitter sent Ladder near Temple Rafters to Ixfox (Song from Saria)

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Wallet for Kratta

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[Hint]: OoTFlitter's Progressive Hookshot is at West Garden House - [Southeast Lowlands] Ice Dagger Pickup in Ixfox's World. (not found)

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Ganon's Castle boss key for Meganoot

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Am I going to finish both ocarinas of time tonight?

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Jabu Jabu done

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And slingshot for Meganoot

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Forest temple boss key for me

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Oh, I need the small keys

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Ah well. I did so much more than I thought possible

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Let's do the other OoT slot

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https://i.imgur.com/ITyRMy0.png

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clear summit Apr 17, 2024, 3:45 AM

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I wonder whose hookshot is in my ASH

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it is literally the last check left

midnight depot Apr 17, 2024, 3:46 AM

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Want me to check the spoiler log for you?

clear summit Apr 17, 2024, 3:46 AM

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Nah

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It will eventually be revealed, it only needs wristwatch anywaqy

midnight depot Apr 17, 2024, 3:46 AM

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All right

clear summit Apr 17, 2024, 3:46 AM

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is it 2 hookshots per oot?

midnight depot Apr 17, 2024, 3:47 AM

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Could be more or less depending on settings, but in this case it is two each

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And time https://i.imgur.com/svfC1IC.png

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cold valve Apr 17, 2024, 3:48 AM

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midnight depot And time https://i.imgur.com/svfC1IC.png

midnight depot Apr 17, 2024, 3:48 AM

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Oh shit I released the wrong game

cold valve Apr 17, 2024, 3:48 AM

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Unblam

midnight depot Apr 17, 2024, 3:48 AM

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Well that's okay

cold valve Apr 17, 2024, 3:48 AM

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Reblam!

midnight depot Apr 17, 2024, 3:49 AM

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I stopped having fun with the other game anyway

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Meganoot sent Small Key (Bottom of the Well) to krøt (LW Target in Woods)

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OoTFlitter found their Iron Boots (Gerudo Training Ground Hidden Ceiling Chest)
OoTFlitter sent Shield to CaptainMario (Gerudo Training Ground Maze Path First Chest)
OoTFlitter sent Progressive Pyrokinesis 1 to Ixnaut (Ganons Castle Shadow Trial Golden Gauntlets Chest)
OoTFlitter sent Golden Feather to Ixbird (GC Darunias Joy)
OoTFlitter sent Stone Tablet Fragment to Ixlily (Colossus Deku Scrub Grotto Front)
OoTFlitter sent Small Key (Fire Temple) to krøt (ZR Frogs Suns Song)
OoTFlitter sent Go Karts to RCTFlitter (Spirit Temple GS Metal Fence)
OoTFlitter sent Progressive Telekinesis 1 to Ixnaut (Spirit Temple GS Hall After Sun Block Room)
OoTFlitter sent Memory Vault 7 to Ixnaut (LW Skull Kid)
OoTFlitter sent Bombs (10) to Arti (Spirit Temple Child Climb North Chest)
OoTFlitter sent Red Questagon to Ixfox (Fire Temple Volvagia Heart)
OoTFlitter sent Small Key (Bottle Grotto) to Dr. Romulus (Forest Temple Phantom Ganon Heart)

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Let me go through my settings and make sure it doesn't accidentally result in a game that's stuck way behind everyone else next time

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(I'm still going to finish the game I accidentally released!)

clear summit Apr 17, 2024, 3:54 AM

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If you try a game after releasing it, does it mean that all the items become literal nothing?

midnight depot Apr 17, 2024, 3:54 AM

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All the items except the ones that are in my world become pointless to find

clear summit Apr 17, 2024, 3:56 AM

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I see

midnight depot Apr 17, 2024, 3:57 AM

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I can still find them again in OoT because the game is patched and not dynamically changed

cold valve Apr 17, 2024, 3:58 AM

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Yay the last bottle grotto key, there's one check left in there

midnight depot Apr 17, 2024, 4:04 AM

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RCTFlitter sent Structure Compass (Pillager Outpost) to CaptainMario (OpenRCT2_162)

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And forest temple small key for Kratta

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https://i.imgur.com/jwWdN0s.png

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That is every single check

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And I have every required ride

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So now I need to build a park big enough to contain all the guests I need https://i.imgur.com/p3kjGPM.png

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[Hint]: RCTFlitter's Drink Stall is at Outlook Cliff Golden Feather in Ixbird's World. (not found)

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This would help

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For now let's stop here and wait for more items

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The things I need to make it reasonable are land discounts, construction rights discounts and any drinks stall

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Next time, I'll make it so there's a chance of shuffling cows. I'll make it so progression balancing is at 50 and all locations are guaranteed

weary lagoon Apr 17, 2024, 1:51 PM

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You released the wrong game?

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Have you lost your mind..

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looks like someone found my silver gauntlets

midnight depot Apr 17, 2024, 3:05 PM

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Normally I don't have the client open for more than one game at a time so I failed to check

weary lagoon Apr 17, 2024, 4:43 PM

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Now that I have silver gauntlets Im going to get @wet field strength upgrade

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NO MATTER WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

weary lagoon Apr 17, 2024, 5:08 PM

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DOG FOOD FOR ROM 🔥

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all done with silver gauntlet checks, spirit temple had a lot of purple items

cold valve Apr 17, 2024, 6:01 PM

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weary lagoon DOG FOOD FOR ROM 🔥

Thanks muchly

midnight depot Apr 17, 2024, 6:43 PM

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Hi

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Let's play OoT

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In order to finish the game, I need forest temple small keys

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[Hint]: OoTFlitter's Small Key Ring (Forest Temple) is at Water Temple GS Near Boss Key Chest in OoTFlitter's World.

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In order to get there, I need uh

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Iron boots, at least

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[Hint]: OoTFlitter's Iron Boots is at Gerudo Training Ground Hidden Ceiling Chest in OoTFlitter's World.

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In order to get that, I need the keys for it

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[Hint]: OoTFlitter's Small Key Ring (Gerudo Training Ground) is at KF Shop Item 7 in krøt's World.

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Five rupees for Kratta. That surely will be enough

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(I already sent them when I accidentally released)

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That's all the checks I have access to

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https://i.imgur.com/rRjv7ut.png

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I just need to finish forest temple and I'll be able to get the rainbow bridge, which should be all I need to finish the game

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Is there a clip that lets me get through here? https://i.imgur.com/hCu4CVJ.png

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Oh, there is!

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https://youtu.be/s4pNqW-fUgc

YouTube

dotzo

Compilation of Generalized Sideways Vine Clips with Bombs

Found by bliny (https://youtu.be/Ty73U0yhzgs)
and investigated and perfected by many others including EggMeister, dannyb, and Exodus122

Twitch: twitch.tv/dotzo

▶ Play video

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Seems complicated

midnight depot Apr 17, 2024, 10:17 PM

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Hi. Let's accumulate money in RCT

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https://i.imgur.com/itlUQB1.png

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I need seven more land discounts to make land free, and each one will be more useful than the last

midnight depot Apr 17, 2024, 10:37 PM

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Hmm, I don't think that's fair https://i.imgur.com/zSnAVER.png

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midnight depot Apr 17, 2024, 11:09 PM

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With the power of OpenRCT2 ride hacking I've made this cute thing https://i.imgur.com/gFBuKYs.png

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https://i.imgur.com/hN9UUCt.png

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Up to 4500 guests

midnight depot Apr 17, 2024, 11:36 PM

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Let's stop here at 5400/6100

cold valve Apr 18, 2024, 12:12 AM

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let's play link's awakening

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lol thanks for the 400 rupees y'all, i was at capacity

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but actual thanks for the bottle key and dog food, that's 2 checks

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5 deku nuts for flitter lol

midnight depot Apr 18, 2024, 12:16 AM

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Did you know deku nuts can stun ganon for a second?

cold valve Apr 18, 2024, 12:16 AM

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a whole second?

midnight depot Apr 18, 2024, 12:16 AM

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Hardly useful except in large amounts

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Light arrows can stun him for long enough that you can hit him. There are other stun methods too

cold valve Apr 18, 2024, 12:17 AM

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fire temple compass for kratta

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that's it for now

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 4:44 AM

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Hi. Y'all doing all right? If you play, do call out any items you send to OoTFlitter that might unlock some checks. I'm raring to play

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 5:00 AM

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I don't think I can get anything for OoTFlitter atm, though I can get the Drink Stall and it has been a while since I caught up on this

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 5:02 AM

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A drink stall would minimize complaints from people in my park

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 5:03 AM

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I'm gonna start with Psychonauts because we know that has one of my critical Tunic ladders

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 5:36 AM

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I remembered absolutely nothing about the latter half of Milkman Conspiracy so that was wild

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 5:44 AM

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i checked earlier, and i received zero items, so i'm still BK'd

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 6:16 AM

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Ixnaut sent Progressive Resource Crafting to CaptainMario ((SACU) Flame Tower Steps)

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 6:34 AM

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I believe Psychonauts is now fully BK'd again

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and at this point there's only one item that'd unlock significant new content:

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since ASH and EL have never been BK'd they're far more likely than the other two slots to have an important item we don't know about yet

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and ASH has your drink stall, so that's next

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 6:37 AM

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Ixnaut sent Prelude of Light to OoTFlitter ((ASCO) Ledge Above Fred Right)

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Thanks! It doesn't give me any new checks but it does save a lot of treavel time

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 6:38 AM

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fresh hill and at this point there's only one item that'd unlock significant new content:

Don't you have that?

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 6:38 AM

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...oh

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wait why didn't I find it in my inventory

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 6:39 AM

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Hmm

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Maybe it didn't receive properly

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Every item in Meganoot's world has been found

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 6:41 AM

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I goofed

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the item I actually need to reach the upper levels of Psychonauts' Asylum is:

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@clear summit

clear summit Apr 19, 2024, 6:43 AM

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Ho boy

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That is the grindiest achievement so I was delaying it

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That's the 200 fishing quest one

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I can do it as soon as I can play the game so I'll grab it then

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 6:46 AM

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@midnight depot

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 6:47 AM

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Hell yeah, thanks

clear summit Apr 19, 2024, 6:50 AM

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Wow that is a lot of feathers

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 6:53 AM

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The vanilla game has twenty of them

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Plus two silvers

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 7:04 AM

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midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 7:05 AM

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Those are pretty good, but this map has a limited amount of them, so they're not as desirable as outright buying land

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Ixbird sent Suns Song to OoTFlitter (Tough Bird Salesman Golden Feather 3)

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Sun's song is a check!

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 7:07 AM

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what item unblocks catching all fish?

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oh well there you go then

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 7:14 AM

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Thanks

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You can catch all fish using only a fishing rod

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But having two fishing rods makes it faster and easier

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However, you do need to have access to every pool type, including the hawk peak one

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 7:16 AM

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I guess the question then is why is that tracker square still red

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and is there an easy way to tell which fish I'm missing

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 7:17 AM

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What's the universal tracker say?

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The easiest way to tell which fish you're missing is through the fish journal

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cross reference it with the wiki

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 7:17 AM

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ok there is a fish journal, I don't have that yet

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 7:17 AM

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You only need the types of fish, so varieties such as albino or whatever don't matter

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 7:18 AM

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UT does say Catch All Fish Reward is in-logic

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 7:19 AM

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Maybe easy logic just assumes you need the journal

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 7:50 AM

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ok that's ASH fully BK'd, in the sense that there is only one location left

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I'm gonna save fish% for after my journal is found

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there's probably a few aspects of the goal condition I've completely forgotten but we can worry about that later

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 7:57 AM

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Your goal is Goal: Help Everyone

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That's:
catch every fish,
do the painting sequence,
help the fox get to the peak,
win all the races with avery,
do the tuition thing,
get thirty beachstickball hits,
find the shovel for the dude,
make and deliver the seashell necklace
win the boat race
collect trash and buy hat from the lady
find the missing headband
find the camping permit
find the wristwatch

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Maybe more?

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 8:00 AM

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and I think nearly all of those are locations already

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help the fox might be what I'm missing

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other than fish ofc

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 8:02 AM

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Oh, and accompany the climbers to the polar bear camp

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 8:10 AM

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cold valve i checked earlier, and i received zero items, so i'm still BK'd

does "Small Key (Key Cavern)" or "Small Key (Turtle Rock)" help?

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 8:14 AM

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Ixlily sent Structure Compass (Bastion Remnant) to CaptainMario (White Parish 09 - Chief Guardian)

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Ixlily sent Small Key (Shadow Temple) to krøt (Ruined Castle 12 - Chain of Sorcery)

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 8:22 AM

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Ixlily sent Small Key (Ganons Castle) to krøt (Ruined Castle 02 - Amulet Fragment)

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Ixlily sent Boss Key (Fire Temple) to krøt (Ruined Castle 08 - Chain of Sorcery)

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hype room time

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a Land Discount and a Dio's Best Friend

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 8:37 AM

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Ixlily sent Infinity Book to CaptainMario (Ruined Castle 19 - King's Note 1)

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Super handy against the dragon

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 8:40 AM

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hardest boss in the game had one of my true ending keys

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which completes my speedrun of Ruined Castle, putting Ender Lilies overall at 71%

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since there are no unfound hinted items in this slot, and most of Verboten Domain not available yet, that seems like a good stopping point

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 8:42 AM

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How many stone tablet fragments do you need?

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 8:42 AM

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the total is 7, I believe that was my 6th

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A hint costs 33 points. You have 172 points.

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yeah, might as well

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[Hint]: Ixlily's Stone Tablet Fragment is at Cathedral - [2F] Bird Room Secret in Ixfox's World. (not found)

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cool, that's my problem

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Psychonauts and ASH are BK'd, UT says I have 30 checks left in EL, 42 in Tunic

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that's plenty for today, whenever I feel like playing next the goal will be to BK Tunic

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what's the status of hinted items in Ixfox...

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krot's Mirror Shield I could get right now, so ping me if that's worth expediting

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the others are in Cathedral and West Garden which I still don't have access to

lament tusk Apr 19, 2024, 8:48 AM

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Mirror shield is used in spirit temple so that's a good thing to find

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 8:48 AM

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West Garden iirc I can get to as soon as krot finds my Lantern

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I have Swamp access and Prayer so Cathedral is probably waiting on another ladder

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er, Ladders in Swamp, right, that makes more sense

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A hint costs 30 points. You have 7 points.

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guess we're not hinting that until next session

clear summit Apr 19, 2024, 9:48 AM

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Time to give the angler 100 more fishes

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 10:43 AM

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Oh in Terraria

clear summit Apr 19, 2024, 11:02 AM

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Yeah my 200 quest achievement has something important for ix

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pretty close

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@fresh hill got it

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 11:08 AM

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look at all that green

clear summit Apr 19, 2024, 11:09 AM

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ccloudypog

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 11:16 AM

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the reason that painting was so important is that we need a disguise to get past the guard on the ground floor

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fortunatly, the guard is half-blind, and the game has a sense of humor, so this actually works

clear summit Apr 19, 2024, 11:35 AM

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I think my terraria is in true BK now

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 12:19 PM

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fresh hill does "Small Key (Key Cavern)" or "Small Key (Turtle Rock)" help?

Key cavern is blocking my goal, turtle rock is useless

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 12:34 PM

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all right, Psychonauts is now 93% done, with all the remaining locations and the goal being directly blocked by a Tag or Brain item

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much the same status as my ASH slot

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iirc my Psychonauts goal is retrieving all the stolen brains, so I've hinted all the Brain items I haven't already received

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 1:48 PM

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is cap still on 33

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they need to get mining!

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 1:50 PM

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yep

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cap, Ixfox and krot are the only slots below 70% atm

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I know Ixfox and krot were blocked pretty hard for a while, cap I assume is Minecraft being a weird game to randomize, since I still don't know how that plays in practice

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 1:53 PM

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@shy oyster Listen

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I don't make this decision lightly

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BUT

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You have my permission to mine at night

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 3:14 PM

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😮

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Looks like I can fight Red

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 3:30 PM

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@midnight depot i found eponas song so you can do all your favorite horse checks now.

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Let's at least take down Flaaffy

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Espeon outspeeds it ICANT

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Flaaffy moment..

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jesus christ

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time to grind 30 lvls on all my guys

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 4:05 PM

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weary lagoon <@68799960375623680> i found eponas song so you can do all your favorite horse c...

Thanks. That's frogs and poe

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 4:05 PM

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And horseback archery

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 4:07 PM

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No, horseback archery can get fucked and die forever

shy oyster Apr 19, 2024, 4:32 PM

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i could fight the dragon now if i wanted, but idk how important the items behind Those Were The Days and the frog advancement are

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 4:33 PM

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If you complete your goal you can !release all remaining items from your game

shy oyster Apr 19, 2024, 4:33 PM

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oh !

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 4:34 PM

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Is your goal to fight the dragon?

shy oyster Apr 19, 2024, 4:34 PM

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ye

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 4:34 PM

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Some of those achievements are damn near impossible

shy oyster Apr 19, 2024, 4:34 PM

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lol i selected the option to exclude How Did We Get Here? and Adventuring Time

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 4:34 PM

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I know there's one in ponycraft that even stargazing wasn't able to get

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 4:38 PM

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well, technically you can !release at any time

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 4:39 PM

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in my opinion releasing at 33% is pretty lame for everyone else involved

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 4:39 PM

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it's up to you how much of your game you want to play, it's just that typically people either never !release, or try to avoid !releasing until they've met their goal

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and of course !releasing at a very low % should probably only be done if real life hits and you can no longer play the game after all

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either way the act of !releasing amounts to saying you're done playing that game within this multiworld

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 4:42 PM

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Yes you can fight the dragon but you have 38/114 checks which could be important for other people

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It's a collab gandalfyeah

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 4:43 PM

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I guess that goes back to wondering how the Minecraft randomizer plays out in practice

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 4:43 PM

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have you looked at this https://archipelago.gg/tracker/mF81PzY6QIy3Glj_WMhQIA/0/3

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 4:43 PM

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most of these games can theoretically be done with a small % of the game's items, but realistically it wouldn't happen

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 4:50 PM

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I didn't realize they were still at 33%

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But also I'm mostly blocked by the minecraft so i can't really play until that gets some checks

shy oyster Apr 19, 2024, 4:51 PM

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which ones do you need

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 4:52 PM

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Bukkit bukkit is one

shy oyster Apr 19, 2024, 4:52 PM

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ok today i will make it my mission to find a swamp

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 4:52 PM

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I don't recall the others offhand

shy oyster Apr 19, 2024, 4:52 PM

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breed the frogies

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 4:54 PM

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The other one was Those Were the Days

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I guess it wasn't all minecraft, but those are both nightmare keys

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 4:57 PM

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fresh hill does "Small Key (Key Cavern)" or "Small Key (Turtle Rock)" help?

Did you actually get these or are they just available?

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 4:57 PM

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I got those

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 4:57 PM

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Swiggity!

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 4:57 PM

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the edit was when I got the 2nd

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 4:58 PM

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If cap gets the bukkit one, I'll finish level 3 and there'll be a hopefully important item in the boss heart slot

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Though it seems that the "priority items" i forced into the boss hearts have been less than impressive

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 5:00 PM

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the effectiveness of priority_locations does depend on what progression items are in the multiworld

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 5:00 PM

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I want to feel like I'm helping, not unlocking 5 deku nuts

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 5:00 PM

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which is part of the reason GSTs are such a meme

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 5:00 PM

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deku nuts arent a progression item so that wont happen

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 5:01 PM

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local GSTs would probably more than double the de facto impact of priority_locations, with how many OoT slots we always have

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 5:01 PM

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:feelstokenman:

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 5:01 PM

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I got something crappy from the last boss

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 5:01 PM

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its not just skulltulas I keep getting fairies and seashells

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 5:02 PM

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I should make the seashell mansion a priority slot too

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 5:02 PM

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right, but fairies and seashells and golden feathers are "only" 20-something per world iirc

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 5:02 PM

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Or make them local

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 5:02 PM

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GSTs being 100 per world is what makes them the meme

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 5:03 PM

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yeah its solved when AP adds "actually good progression items" as an item class

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 5:03 PM

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but I'd be happy to make my progression collectables local if others want to do that, I just never thought the 10-20 collectibles were making a difference

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 5:03 PM

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The biggest thing for me would be the angler key, that's like 16 checks alone

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 5:04 PM

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to be fair "actually good" applies to some useful and filler items too

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 5:04 PM

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looks like someone found the spirit temple boss key at some point so im only missing mirror shield

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 5:05 PM

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in retrospect I probably should've set PsiCards and Tags local, there are way more than 20 of those

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 5:06 PM

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@clear summit Rom needs this

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 5:08 PM

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For me "actually good" would be all dungeon items (feather, bracelets, boots, flippers, hookshot, shields, rod) plus swords, entrance keys, Nightmare keys, rooster, shovel, boomerang, bombs, bow, ocarina, and the 3 songs

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Everything else is mid or useless

fresh hill Apr 19, 2024, 5:09 PM

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what other progression items does LADX have? I've only noticed the seashells

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(worth noting the issue is not unique to progression either; my last Hollow Knight had local geo rocks)

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 5:10 PM

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same, those are a bit much

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 5:20 PM

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Rupees are needed for some things, power for a few, but those are easily grindable

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20 seashells are needed for the 1 check

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Oh, and 5 gold leaves for 3 checks

shy oyster Apr 19, 2024, 5:21 PM

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gold leaves ? i dont memeber those

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 5:22 PM

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Needed to get under Richard's house to the pothole field

shy oyster Apr 19, 2024, 5:22 PM

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RIGHT ok i member now

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 5:25 PM

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Do you think the golden leaves will be important in the Zelda movie

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 5:46 PM

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Absolutely not

shy oyster Apr 19, 2024, 6:32 PM

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omg

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someone sent me a Bastion remnant compass so that advancement will be easier to get

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 6:38 PM

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thinking about leveling my pokemon

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anyone know any good grind spots in Johto

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maybe even Kanto

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 6:39 PM

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The power forest. Or maybe the viridian plant

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Yes i remember pokemon

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 6:41 PM

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Me after 5 minutes in the power forest

shy oyster Apr 19, 2024, 7:02 PM

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cold valve The power forest. Or maybe the viridian plant

got one of your nightmare keys :3

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 7:03 PM

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Rom learned crunch 🔥 🦷

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 7:03 PM

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Yay!

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Double yay!

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I will gnash my foes

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 7:18 PM

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thanks for max revive

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 7:46 PM

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fresh hill local GSTs would probably more than double the de facto impact of priority_locat...

Instead of making them local, we should all item link gold skulltula tokens. In this month's configuration this change will quarter the total number of them and quadruple their value

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 7:46 PM

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weary lagoon anyone know any good grind spots in Johto

When I got my pokemon to level 100 in Pokemon gold I did it through the elite four, but I was just a kid then

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 7:49 PM

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Blue defeated

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hope it was worth it

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In soul silver the elite 4 upgraded but here they are still in the lvl 40-50s

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 7:55 PM

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That makes sense

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AP still gives you a lucky egg, right?

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 7:56 PM

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is that the xp held item

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 7:57 PM

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Yeah

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1.5x from lucky egg, 1.5x from the pokemon being traded

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For a total of 125% total boost

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 7:59 PM

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i dont have one

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 8:00 PM

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Unfortunate

wet field Apr 19, 2024, 8:00 PM

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midnight depot Instead of making them local, we should all item link gold skulltula tokens. In ...

That's a great idea

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 8:02 PM

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Thanks. I'll be sure to test it and figure out exactly the incantations we need to put in each YAML

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 8:03 PM

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Seashells too?

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 8:04 PM

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Well no

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An item link only works if more than one person plays the game

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 8:05 PM

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What is an item link

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 8:06 PM

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So if Ixrec finds a gold skulltula, one is sent to every OoT player instead of just one of the players

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 8:06 PM

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Ah

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 8:06 PM

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Item links "merge" identical items

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 8:06 PM

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Yes that is a good idea

lament tusk Apr 19, 2024, 8:06 PM

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that could be fun for a shorter game

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so long as everyone was playing the same game

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 8:07 PM

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Right now we're talking about adding it for gold skulltulas because there's four hundred of them

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 8:07 PM

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It's less fun for everyone else when half your checks are GSTs

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 8:08 PM

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The other solution is making gold skulltulas local only

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(that would work for seashells too!)

lament tusk Apr 19, 2024, 8:08 PM

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nah do it for every item, that means that theres one game's worth of important checks spread out over multiple games

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 8:08 PM

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It definitely breaks if you do it for every item

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You have to have the exact same number of each linked item

lament tusk Apr 19, 2024, 8:08 PM

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:(

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im saying that if everyone did oot and you linked every item together

shy oyster Apr 19, 2024, 8:09 PM

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it would be so awesome if at the beginning of LA Talon gives you the Seashell Sword

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 8:10 PM

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Oot can have more or less of major items depending on settings is the issue

lament tusk Apr 19, 2024, 8:10 PM

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sorry id assumed "same settings" didnt need to be written

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 8:14 PM

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cold valve It's less fun for everyone else when half your checks are GSTs

for every gold skulltula removed from the poll a random junk item of 20 rupees or 5 deku nuts is added

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 8:15 PM

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True!

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But

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The actual goal is to make sure the "priority checks" option works and gives more satisfying results

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Both local items and linked items would achieve that in different ways

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 8:16 PM

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priority checks are overrated

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I just grinded out to beat Blue for 30 stagnant blight thats life

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 8:18 PM

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That's a matter of preference, but I understand

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 8:18 PM

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shy oyster it would be so awesome if at the beginning of LA Talon gives you the Seashell Sw...

He could give you a sword but it's a progressive sword so it'd be level 1

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However it's possible a progressive sword is also on the beach or in the well or in the bush field

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 8:18 PM

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You can start with any item you like if you put it in the YAML

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 8:19 PM

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what do you guys think of my current squad

shy oyster Apr 19, 2024, 8:20 PM

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what am i

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 8:20 PM

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me april 3rd: wow a dratini having a dragonite for this will be so cool

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me on april 19th and 97% with still no dragonite

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you're espeon

shy oyster Apr 19, 2024, 8:21 PM

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that's epic

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 8:21 PM

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Im a fire dragon thing i think

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 8:22 PM

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no you're actually an insect pupa

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alright there we go

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wtf it has the worst backsprite of all time

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 8:27 PM

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Hell yeah

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Also true

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 8:27 PM

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but at least it can fly now

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 8:27 PM

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I was about to say you're almost at Dragonite then someone interrupted me before I could finish typing

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 8:28 PM

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im gonna give Red a real shot when Rom turns into Tyrannitar

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 8:29 PM

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Tyranitar and Dragonite?

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 8:29 PM

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Is tyrannitar a fire dragon thing

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 8:29 PM

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Earth dragon

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Inb4 red has six glalies

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 8:29 PM

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5 bidoofs and a bibarel

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 8:30 PM

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I posted the two pokemon ive seen

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lvl 81 Flaaffy and lvl 73 Mew

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Lvl 73 Mew is kind of a problem

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 8:30 PM

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You just need mew too

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 8:33 PM

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tyranitar is rock dark hes not a dragon

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 8:34 PM

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Oh

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 8:48 PM

#

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let's go get em

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 8:52 PM

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Hell yeah

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The cooler dragonite

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 8:53 PM

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lvl 77 gloom

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pretty easy

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Mew time 😓

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tried to sacrifice pikachu to get thunder wave up but it just gets one shot

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lvl 77 poliwhirl

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lvl 75 jigglypuff

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One more guy

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Lvl 77 Charizard (classic)

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https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-trainer-red-gif-27299663

Tenor

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mastapiece game

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 9:02 PM

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Very well done

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 9:03 PM

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final team VS Red

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From top
Espeon
Blastoise
Pikachu
Typhlosion
Dragonite
Tyranitar

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 9:04 PM

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No thunder stones ever?

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 9:04 PM

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nope

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I'll need to play it one more time once I get the card key

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 9:09 PM

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CaptainMario sent Nightmare Key (Key Cavern) to Dr. Romulus (Those Were the Days)

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Artipkmn sent Land Discount to RCTFlitter (Silver Cave 2F - Item 3)

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 9:10 PM

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ye

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 9:11 PM

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Let's play OoT

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 9:11 PM

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Yay it was all thank to my pokeself

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Congrats artiks!

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 9:12 PM

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Thats true you did take out Mew with Crunch

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 9:12 PM

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I gnashed it

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 9:13 PM

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Thank you for deku nut, bomb bag, prelude of light, bomb bag, sun's song, epona's song, and maps

weary lagoon Apr 19, 2024, 9:16 PM

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yw!

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 9:16 PM

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The frogs had my fire arrows! (and I key that I already sent)

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Hmm

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Well I'm stuck, so that's it for tonight

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 10:38 PM

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let's play some mother fucking link's awakening

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thanks for keys and leaf and hearts

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 10:41 PM

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You're welcome!

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Can you get any new checks?

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 10:41 PM

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yep, at least 4

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Eleine's Diary for ixlily, which i thin kis useless lore

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bombchus for meganoot

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 10:44 PM

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If you have the client open it'll tell you if a check is progression

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 10:45 PM

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level 3 complete

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silva's note 2 for ixliily

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 10:46 PM

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Thanks for the drink stall and land discounts

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That should be everything I need to finish the game

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 10:47 PM

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amulet fragment for ixlily

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what's dark blue text in the client?

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light blue is useless, purple is progression

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right?

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crap, 2 points short of a hint

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i need to know where my nightmare key for face shrine is and the ballad of the wind fish

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those are the last 2 unhinted blocks for me

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 10:51 PM

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Mouse over it

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You're correct though

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You're not doing entrance tracker, right?

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 10:52 PM

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ah ok, the note and diary are "normal", the bombchus are "progression" and the amulet is "useful"

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 10:52 PM

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Er, Entrance randomizer

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 10:52 PM

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i am not this time

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i will do that next time though

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 10:52 PM

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Bombchus are no longer progression because the game is done

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 10:53 PM

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well maybe the amulet fragment will help

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why did i just now join and leave

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 10:53 PM

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Me

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 10:53 PM

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ah

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 10:54 PM

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I'm just checking the universal tracker to see if you can access anything

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You cannot!

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 10:54 PM

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yup, magpie says nothing

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need a color dungeon key for the only accessible check

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these are my three outstanding hints, and we know about 2 of them, just need a swamp and a mirror shield

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and i think terraria is hard blocked

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 10:56 PM

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Robbing The Grave

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Oh that one's not easy

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 11:12 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/qyXMhNE.png

Imgur

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RCTFlitter (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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That leaves just one game

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We're at six out of sixteen complete

shy oyster Apr 19, 2024, 11:21 PM

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just waiting for eggs to hatch and then i will have gotten your Nightmare Key Rom

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minecraft froggies are so cute

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 11:22 PM

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You have to wait for eggs to hatch?

shy oyster Apr 19, 2024, 11:22 PM

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ye

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 11:22 PM

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I just throw them at the wall and out come chicken

shy oyster Apr 19, 2024, 11:22 PM

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no these are frog eggs

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see

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 11:23 PM

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You should be allowed to throw those too

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 11:23 PM

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squish

shy oyster Apr 19, 2024, 11:23 PM

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they are very delicate

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 11:23 PM

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that's a tad pole, don't you think?

shy oyster Apr 19, 2024, 11:23 PM

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no tadpoles are physical mobs

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oh wait

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i get it

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rdsnrk

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 11:24 PM

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ayymario

shy oyster Apr 19, 2024, 11:28 PM

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there you go Rom :3

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 11:28 PM

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woot!

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let's go find out what the boss has

wet field Apr 19, 2024, 11:29 PM

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I bet he drops an item

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 11:32 PM

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Pass for artipkmn

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level 8 complete

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 11:33 PM

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Since I have two out of three of my games done it's time to think about what to play next month

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 11:34 PM

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literally 2 trade items, 2 bosses, and an entire dungeon

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 11:34 PM

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OoT, of course. Maybe RCT again, for the third game I want either Monster Sanctuary or Risk of Rain classic

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 11:34 PM

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and in logic is only the one color dungeon key

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 11:34 PM

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Magpie is so neat

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 11:34 PM

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my L-2 sword is still out there somewhere

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but i don't need it

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also the bomb and powder upgrades

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@fresh hill

shy oyster Apr 19, 2024, 11:37 PM

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i think next month im gonna do LttP

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 11:37 PM

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Oh hell yeah

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In that case I'm going to do LttP too

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 11:38 PM

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i think dessyreqt is gonna do smz3 so there'll be 3 of those

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 11:38 PM

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I want to do Oracle of Seasons

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But I'm waiting for it to be further in development

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 11:38 PM

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i'd do undertale except i think i'd have to do the genocide fights and i am not that good

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 11:39 PM

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Exclude them

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I can help you do that

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By excluding them you will guarantee they're worthless junk, only useful for hint points

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 11:40 PM

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oh wait i don't even own undertale lol

midnight depot Apr 19, 2024, 11:40 PM

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I can lend you my copy

cold valve Apr 19, 2024, 11:40 PM

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i played it on my ex's steam account

clear summit Apr 20, 2024, 12:28 AM

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weary lagoon <@177816809854992384> Rom needs this

That requires Abyssal Depths

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It's in kratta's DMC Deku Scrub Grotto Center

wet field Apr 20, 2024, 2:04 AM

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krøt sent Rotten Flesh to CaptainMario (LH GS Tree)
enjoy the flesh

shy oyster Apr 20, 2024, 2:14 AM

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thank you kratta 🙏

midnight depot Apr 20, 2024, 5:38 AM

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Oh, another change I'll be making is I'm going to store backups of all YAMLs after I generate using them, just in case

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(But I still want you to keep your own YAMLs instead of asking me to just use last month's)

fresh hill Apr 20, 2024, 5:56 AM

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I have to hang onto mine so I can use UT

midnight depot Apr 20, 2024, 6:02 AM

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Yeah

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I learned yesterday that UT gets fucked if you have any malformed YAMLs, even if you don't use them

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Is that a bug worth reporting?

fresh hill Apr 20, 2024, 6:05 AM

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unless the error message is unclear, probably not

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there’s no reason to have a malformed yaml afaik

midnight depot Apr 20, 2024, 6:06 AM

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It's the exact same error message you get when you generate with a bad yaml

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There's no reason to have a malformed yaml, but the issue is it doesn't allow me to have an in-progress YAML and also use the universal tracker, so there's one more step before it works

weary lagoon Apr 20, 2024, 6:44 AM

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Now that crystal is done and OoT is in BK im gonna hint some items that will let me play

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@wet field

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@clear summit and more abyssal depths

midnight depot Apr 20, 2024, 6:46 AM

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krøt sent Small Key Ring (Gerudo Training Ground) to OoTFlitter

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Yooo

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My final item

weary lagoon Apr 20, 2024, 6:47 AM

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wow thats the biggest key ring of them all

midnight depot Apr 20, 2024, 6:47 AM

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Thank you for the ice trap too

weary lagoon Apr 20, 2024, 6:48 AM

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I asked on the Wind Waker thread if keyrings were coming and they said no

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they must be big fans of visiting dragon roost caverns five times

midnight depot Apr 20, 2024, 6:48 AM

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The wind waker implementation is kinda fucked so I understand

weary lagoon Apr 20, 2024, 6:50 AM

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well it sounds like it has come very far since I played

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they have real item models instead of all green rupees

midnight depot Apr 20, 2024, 6:50 AM

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Does it still implement almost everything by editing memory?

weary lagoon Apr 20, 2024, 6:50 AM

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who knows!

midnight depot Apr 20, 2024, 6:51 AM

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I was hoping you did

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Today I learned you can't do this room without either hover boots or longshot https://i.imgur.com/CI0896A.png

Imgur

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[Hint]: OoTFlitter's Small Key Ring (Forest Temple) is at Water Temple GS Near Boss Key Chest in OoTFlitter's World.

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Where the heck is the boss key chest?

weary lagoon Apr 20, 2024, 7:01 AM

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bottom floor north door

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needs long shot or hover boots

midnight depot Apr 20, 2024, 7:01 AM

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Oh!

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https://i.imgur.com/U1A6evD.png

Imgur

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Thanks

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But what if, instead of using long shot or hover boots, I cheated and used a bomb backflip

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As a matter of fact it does not work

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Because I need to go over the spikes

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[Hint]: OoTFlitter's Progressive Hookshot is at West Garden House - [Southeast Lowlands] Ice Dagger Pickup in Ixfox's World.
[Hint]: OoTFlitter's Hover Boots is at Cathedral - [2F] Entryway Upper Walkway in Ixfox's World.

fresh hill Apr 20, 2024, 7:09 AM

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those are old hints, right?

midnight depot Apr 20, 2024, 7:09 AM

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Hookshot is old. Hover boots is new

fresh hill Apr 20, 2024, 7:09 AM

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ah

midnight depot Apr 20, 2024, 7:09 AM

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Either will do

fresh hill Apr 20, 2024, 7:09 AM

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well both areas are unavailable to me I think

fresh hill Apr 20, 2024, 7:10 AM

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fresh hill West Garden iirc I can get to as soon as krot finds my Lantern

.

midnight depot Apr 20, 2024, 7:10 AM

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Understood

midnight depot Apr 20, 2024, 7:32 AM

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Oh, I need my light arrows too

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I guess I'll find out where they are when I fight ganon

weary lagoon Apr 20, 2024, 9:53 AM

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Apparently Krattas boomerang is on my dragon gym leader

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thats gonna be the very last check in the game I can get ChisatoXD

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Get card key -> beat team rocket -> dragon gym

midnight depot Apr 21, 2024, 12:13 AM

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Hi

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Let's play OoT

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Thank you for piece of heart

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That's it for tonight.

shy oyster Apr 21, 2024, 3:04 AM

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just a heads up im visiting my mom this weekend and i won't be home until Wednesday

midnight depot Apr 21, 2024, 3:05 AM

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Have fun!

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The fun of archipelago is as long as you're playing at least a little every few days it should be fine, provided you play enough to beat your game within the month

shy oyster Apr 21, 2024, 3:06 AM

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lyrathumbsup

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i can probably beat it when i get back but idk if i should do the release command considering i only have like, 40 something out of 114 checks done

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some of these advancements are dumb lol

midnight depot Apr 21, 2024, 3:06 AM

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You do !release if you're done playing for the month

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(Because if you do it and then try to play, you'll find a lot of checks are pointless to do)

shy oyster Apr 21, 2024, 3:07 AM

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ah

midnight depot Apr 21, 2024, 3:07 AM

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So if you finish the game, you can keep playing until you're satisfied, then do !release to abandon the game

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What do you all need to finish your respective games? https://i.imgur.com/e7tXszK.png

Imgur

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For me, I need forest temple small keys and light arrows. I know forest temple small keys are locked behind hover boots

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[Hint]: OoTFlitter's Light Arrows is at This Boat Has Legs in CaptainMario's World. (not found)

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Progressive hookshot can work instead of hover boots

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OoTFlitter's Progressive Hookshot is at West Garden House - [Southeast Lowlands] Ice Dagger Pickup in Ixfox's World. (not found)

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OoTFlitter's Hover Boots is at Cathedral - [2F] Entryway Upper Walkway in Ixfox's World. (not found)

shy oyster Apr 21, 2024, 3:17 AM

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midnight depot `[Hint]: OoTFlitter's Light Arrows is at This Boat Has Legs in CaptainMario's Wo...

oh this'll be really easy to get

midnight depot Apr 21, 2024, 3:17 AM

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Good because it's literally impossible to beat the game without it

shy oyster Apr 21, 2024, 3:17 AM

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yeah rdsnrk

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i remember Light Arrows from Zelda I

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no those were silver arrows

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same thing

midnight depot Apr 21, 2024, 3:25 AM

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Okay, so someone from the archipelago server already had a little script that converts the table into CSV format. (I was gonna spend a while making that)

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(function() {
    var value = "";
    for (const elm of document.querySelectorAll("#checks-table tr")) {
        for (const child of elm.children) {
            value += child.innerText.replaceAll("\n", "") + ",";
        }
        value = value.substring(0, value.length - 1);
        value += "\n";
    }

    return value;
})()```

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Thanks to this script, I was able to more easily write a google sheets formula that automatically calculates a sum for me but ignores games that have 100% of their checks

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=SUMPRODUCT(--(LEFT(E2:E17, FIND("/", E2:E17) - 1) <> MID(E2:E17, FIND("/", E2:E17) + 1, LEN(E2:E17))), --LEFT(E2:E17, FIND("/", E2:E17) - 1)) & "/" & SUMPRODUCT(--(LEFT(E2:E17, FIND("/", E2:E17) - 1) <> MID(E2:E17, FIND("/", E2:E17) + 1, LEN(E2:E17))), --MID(E2:E17, FIND("/", E2:E17) + 1, LEN(E2:E17)))

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We are at 2479/3203 checks, or 77% of the way

fresh hill Apr 21, 2024, 3:51 AM

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midnight depot What do you all need to finish your respective games? https://i.imgur.com/e7tXsz...

Ixbird: technically nothing but I’m waiting for Fish Journal
Ixfox: definitely Lantern and some ladders, dunno if there’s more
Ixnaut: the remaining Brain items
Ixlily: Unlock and Lance

iirc I’ve already hinted all of these, except a ladder which I’ll hint next time I play Tunic

midnight depot Apr 21, 2024, 3:54 AM

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Sounds great

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krøt sent Progressive Clairvoyance 2 to Ixnaut (GV Deku Scrub Grotto Rear)
krøt sent Fishing Rod to JayASH (Hideout Gerudo Membership Card)
krøt sent Abyssal Depths to JayROR (DMC Deku Scrub Grotto Center)
krøt sent Ladders in Hourglass Cave to Ixfox (DMC Volcano Freestanding PoH)

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Thank you, Kratta

midnight depot Apr 21, 2024, 4:35 AM

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krøt sent Progressive Marksmanship 2 to Ixnaut (Shadow Temple MQ Map Chest)

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krøt sent Sundered Grove to JayROR (Dodongos Cavern King Dodongo Heart)

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krøt sent Lantern to Ixfox (Shadow Temple MQ Stalfos Room Chest)

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krøt sent Ladders in South Atoll to Ixfox (Forest Temple GS First Room)

fresh hill Apr 21, 2024, 4:49 AM

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well if you insist

midnight depot Apr 21, 2024, 4:49 AM

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It's silly how archipelago seems to clump checks in one game

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I think it might be a side effect of the sphere approach

fresh hill Apr 21, 2024, 4:50 AM

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spheres aren't part of the reverse fill algorithm if that's what you mean

midnight depot Apr 21, 2024, 4:50 AM

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Oh

fresh hill Apr 21, 2024, 4:50 AM

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I'm never sure if these clumps are "real" biases or if it's just that players never get through their games at the same speed

midnight depot Apr 21, 2024, 4:51 AM

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Well no, I mean that my game seems to have progression items belonging to a specific player more than others, and vice versa

fresh hill Apr 21, 2024, 4:51 AM

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oh that

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yeah that probably falls under "random means random", unless the algorithm was specifically designed to do even distribution (for a specific meaning of "even") then it won't be

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anyway, if krot's playing right now lemme start with their mirror shield in my quarry

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in retrospect I should've waited for all of these ice traps to go off before I started playing

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there we go

wet field Apr 21, 2024, 5:00 AM

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pipppipphooray

midnight depot Apr 21, 2024, 5:00 AM

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That was quick

fresh hill Apr 21, 2024, 5:01 AM

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I had all but 3 checks in quarry done already

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the only problem with it was I didn't have the main entrance unlocked so walking back to it is a little annoying (so, naturally, I received that ladder after I'd already walked the long way there)

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the main reason those lower quarry ladders matter is because they unlock the area after quarry... which I will not be going to yet because none of the hinted items are there

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I just unlocked the elevator shortcut to get back down here immediately from quarry entrance later

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oh, and opened the giant door down there because it looks cool

midnight depot Apr 21, 2024, 5:05 AM

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Minit ass level

fresh hill Apr 21, 2024, 5:07 AM

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now for dark tomb and west garden

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do you still need these?

midnight depot Apr 21, 2024, 5:13 AM

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More wallets are always handy for restocking on consumables

fresh hill Apr 21, 2024, 5:14 AM

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Key!

midnight depot Apr 21, 2024, 5:15 AM

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What's key do?

shy oyster Apr 21, 2024, 5:15 AM

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prbably unlocks a door

fresh hill Apr 21, 2024, 5:15 AM

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that is correct

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specifically, there are 2 just-"Key" keys in Tunic, each of which unlocks a small area with a couple checks in it

midnight depot Apr 21, 2024, 5:15 AM

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Neat

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Ixfox sent Bottle with Poe to Arti (Dark Tomb - Spike Maze Upper Walkway)

fresh hill Apr 21, 2024, 5:16 AM

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I used my 1st key on overworld Ruined Passage forever ago so this one goes to the Ruined Atoll Locked Room chests, if I feel like going back there

midnight depot Apr 21, 2024, 5:16 AM

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I always love getting bottles. Getting a bottle with a poe inside it also unlocks an extra check

fresh hill Apr 21, 2024, 5:19 AM

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classic, boss fight has a GST on it

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gtk I can skip that

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