INSANE moment in todays stream https://clips.twitch.tv/SullenExquisiteTaroFUNgineer-BTWtRbVFqEmVbwxv
#Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer
weary lagoon
lament tusk
Oh neat
Gj
How are you moving the slingshot so smoothly? Always feels like a jagged wrenching when I play
midnight depot
How are you moving the slingshot so smoothly? Always feels like a jagged wrenchi...
Make sure these options are empty https://i.imgur.com/TNceixc.png
lament tusk
https://youtu.be/XRCHqY-dWmU?si=DekH3zmmActJTaMg oh they made a rando based on the 3d version of mm? Fuck yeah
weary lagoon
if you thought the slingshot game was impressive... https://www.twitch.tv/artirella/clip/TiredElegantEagleDancingBaby-PFpg2rWKqnbb-9DC?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time
weary lagoon
ive found all the buttons to play song of time in majoras mask this is so big
wet field
Ohhh the buttons are items you have to find. I thought the setting just shuffled the keybinds so that playing the ocarina is a pain in the ass
weary lagoon
that would be preeeeetty craaazy
weary lagoon
the 3ds rando seems nice but i wouldnt wanna play that game without gyro controls
wet field
Why, did they mess up the analog stick aiming or something?
midnight depot
Well you might get hungry while you play
weary lagoon
gyro controls are just so much better
weary lagoon
holy hell
shy oyster
who is this
weary lagoon
Marioman64
shy oyster
thank you artiks
midnight depot
It's another person in the archipelago server
wet field
I need this to get my nocturne of shadow
weary lagoon
Chip is too scared of Deepnest...
fierce vale
I need this to get my nocturne of shadow
got
various stuff for various people acquired
wet field
Did you find my bombs
Yeag
weary lagoon
is this a good deal
midnight depot
Why would you need that when sticks deal the same damage?
fierce vale
yeah, waste of rupees
weary lagoon
well sticks are finite
fierce vale
no more finite than the sword
midnight depot
I always plenish my sticks every opportunity I get
fierce vale
in fact, the sword is way more finite, theres only 1
weary lagoon
with the master sword you dont have to replenish sticks
midnight depot
That's true and valid
With the master sword you don't get to replenish sticks as often which is a real issue
weary lagoon
So far shuffling the ocarina buttons has been pretty funny, but it does mean waiting longer for warp songs and suns song
also its funny when you're trying to do stuff like the ocarina simon says and it doesnt work
midnight depot
Hello, friends. It's been a hectic week. How's your progress? Is anyone stuck?
I've been advised by Berserker (the original developer of archipelago's predecessor) that progression balancing may be undesirable in an async, so next time I think I'll try turning it to a low number (something like 5% instead of 50%)
fierce vale
i'm still procrastinating, i got a lot i can do
fresh hill
I probably should play some more, just haven't prioritized it in a while
wet field
I still have stuff to do
midnight depot
Oh excellent
wet field
There are a lot of checks left but I have nearly all the important items
wet field
I've been advised by Berserker (the original developer of archipelago's predeces...
What does making it a lower number do?
midnight depot
Progression balancing in your YAML is set to 50
At 50, the randomizer will repeatedly look at the person who progressed the most, then move items around to ensure you are at least 50% of the way to them
With 0, it will not do that (but will still try to ensure people don't get stuck for too long through other methods)
At 5% it'll only act when you're really behind
wet field
At 50, the randomizer will repeatedly look at the person who progressed the most...
Oh that's weird
fresh hill
fwiw, in a couple of our previous asyncs, I attempted setting my prog balance to 75 or 25 instead of the default 50, and found that any difference it made was unnoticeable for me personally, likely lost in the noise of who played more or less of their respective games
midnight depot
Yeah I figured, which is why I want to set it to 5. If it doesn't matter then removing the feature shouldn't be a problem
wet field
Makes sense
fresh hill
it's been a while
fresh hill
finally got that thing I needed all the wax beads for
great moments in enemy rando
this room has a lift that's scripted to come down with an enemy as you approach it, so I'm wondering what enemy rando will give me
and I get a completely empty lift
so I wait a second in bemusement, step onto it, then an enemy larger than the elevator shaft falls onto my head
yep, still bad at this game (2nd try! 
)
...that's ever so slightly disappointing (the other is Bombs(5))
hm, let's finish this by seeing what the Graveyard of the Peaks shop has to offer
oh right, I'm still missing the third mask
ok I hinted that before and chip has it
pretty meh as shops go, but at least now we know
74%, that's definitely plenty
midnight depot
so I wait a second in bemusement, step onto it, then an enemy larger than the el...
They don't usually make them that big
weary lagoon
Well done everyone
I have encountered another funny issue with shuffled ocarina buttons
I have Eponas song MM which means that epona is in logic, but I cant play the song
so every time I want her in a new cycle I have to buy the powder keg and pick her up at the ranch
midnight depot
Yeah, but things being in logic usually means they are reasonably easy to get and use
weary lagoon
No? it means you can get them without tricks/glitches
midnight depot
Typically in randomizers, if there's something that's super inconvenient to do it's taken out of logic and put into a separate option you have to explicitly opt into because people like to have fun
weary lagoon
this isnt that bad
I wonder how the logic for the OoT ocarina game works though
if it expects every button
midnight depot
Amazing work
weary lagoon
im not using one
midnight depot
Okay, my advice is use one.
midnight depot
I can't really help out without actually knowing where you've been to, but this seems like a lot of progress already
weary lagoon
I forgot to talk to the sad man on the first night
this gives me the longshot
I cant turn into an adult yet but its nice to have
weary lagoon
oh my god
I had to check the spoiler log
Id never figure this out
I have to play the requiem of spirit to warp to desert colossus FROM Majoras Mask because I have the ocarina buttons in that game
midnight depot
Oh, the ocarina buttons are separated?
weary lagoon
ye
so I open the spoiler log and I see this
And I think "?? I cant go there I dont have the A button and it hasnt been shown earlier in the log"
then it hits me
weary lagoon
looks like they have added an update that lets you swap between hookshot and longshot if you so desire..
midnight depot
Why would you desire that?
weary lagoon
Maybe youre fighting bats and dont want to shoot really far if you miss..
midnight depot
Oh that's valid
fresh hill
the Pseudoregalia mod lets you toggle long jump on and off since many slide ultras are easier to set up when slides don't chain into long jumps
lament tusk
I have to play the requiem of spirit to warp to desert colossus FROM Majoras Mas...
That's unironically hilarious
fierce vale
i'd deffo prefer the buttons were linked between just to avoid stuff like that
fierce vale
true; i guess it would be nice if there was some showing on a tracker for what i can play, along with not needing to do them that often
wet field
hell yeah
weary lagoon
W
fierce vale
w
fierce vale
i also got my win ~~i might just release a crazy big number of things, i've done to many hollowknights in a row and burnt out ~~
if anyone wanted any of these items you can go ham now
weary lagoon
this piece of heart will be big
midnight depot
My Sun's song!
midnight depot
It sucks that you burned out on the game. It is a pretty big game.
What do you intend to play next time?
weary lagoon
WIND WAKER
fierce vale
maybe hattie time
the main problem is that its pretty big and my 4th(?) time doing it in a row
midnight depot
I intend to do OoT, a Short Hike, and Terraria
Maybe swap Terraria for OpenRCT2
You did not do A Hat in Time this run, so it would be your first time doing it in a row
fierce vale
celeste is fun, but thats defo gonna just be something i do once in a blue moon
i am tempted to see if i can setup a server for the factorio randomiser
it would be funny to just add one that anyone with factorio could just join and play
midnight depot
Yeah I was kinda thinking of Factorio but I don't think I can both host a server and run it
fresh hill
huh, I don't see my 3rd mask in chip's screenshots but the multiworld tracker says I have it
midnight depot
What's it called?
midnight depot
[root at 2024-02-24 10:49:26,963]: (Team #1) ChipKnight sent Mirrored Mask of Dolphos to Ixculpa (Boss_Essence-No_Eyes)
fresh hill
and there it is
FIRST TRY
without the true ending bonus phase but still
...wait, crap, I forgot I have the true ending item equipped
SECOND TRY
midnight depot
Great work!
weary lagoon
did we win
midnight depot
There are more bosses
fresh hill
that was the penultimate boss
midnight depot
Okay but the final boss has like six phases
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midnight depot
Thanks for joining me in the Archipelago game for February 2024! Here's the log file for the game
And the spoiler file
This game had 11 games with six players total. https://i.imgur.com/YPYmh9y.png
midnight depot
Yeah, let me look into it
weary lagoon
Everything just worked itself out really quickly
midnight depot
In reverse order, the playthrough file lists:
1- Chipknight
2- Subnoughtica
3- Kroot
4- Arti
5- Ixculpa
6- OoTFlitter
7- Ixgoat
8- Ixnaut
9- Chipleste
10- ASHFlitter
11- RLFlitter
midnight depot
Rogue Legacy and A Short Hike finished very early as intended.
Excluding outliers, yes!
fresh hill
to be fair, any spoiler playthrough that puts every OoT world in the first half is optimistic 
midnight depot
This is in reverse order, with last listed finishing first
So in the forward order OoT would be 5th, 7th and 8th
fresh hill
oh, that's the opposite of what I thought "reverse" meant
I think it'd be clearer to use 1 for first
midnight depot
Yeah but it's easier for me to read the file from bottom to top
weary lagoon
crazy that im that late in the list
midnight depot
Some of your checks were supposed to happen after you won
weary lagoon
I thought the order was who completed their goal not who did their last check
midnight depot
The playthrough file lists only the checks necessary for everyone to reach their goals
So it assumes you will not release, but will do nothing you don't need to
fresh hill
another way to put it is that !releasing is "not in logic"
midnight depot
Hello, @here! I'm starting another Manechat Asynchronous Archipelago Game, with the intent of running until the end of March. If you're interested, please read the list of available games https://archipelago.gg/games and pick one or more games to run, then ping me so I can keep track of you and help you out with any problems.
The game will start March 1st or whenever everyone interested is ready. I will also explicitly invite last month's players: Artiks, Ixrec, Chip, Meganought, Kratta.
If I ping everyone does it invite literally every server member here?
weary lagoon
let me try
lament tusk
dont try it in manechat
im 99% sure it doesnt, but i said that last time i tried a ping of that scale
fresh hill
hm
fresh hill
I'm almost done with 0.2.0 of OW, this might come down to how many bugs I find today and tomorrow in playtesting
clear summit
Oh they have terraria now
fresh hill
oh right and the other contirbutor was nearly done with their tracker, so I might wait a bit on a formal release and use a prerelease for this? hmmmm
midnight depot
They had Terraria for a while
clear summit
Well it's been a while since I've checked it
midnight depot
I have a four-day vacation from the 25th to the 29th, so it would suit me just fine if we were to start early, but it's not like I'll have significantly less time off vacation
clear summit
lol they straight up recommend using journey mode
midnight depot
Archipelago.gg also has OpenRCT2, which I intend to try out tomorrow
(It's an unsupported in-development game)
clear summit
It would require a very well balanced randomizer, the rides in the game are extremely unbalanced
I have great interest in playing terraria with archipelago. I feel like it can be very unstressful with qol mods and journey mode enabled
midnight depot
Yeah
The developer explains OpenRCT2 like this:
Prices in the unlock shop (usually) start at $500 and increase from there. Additionally, some checks will have prerequisites as well, things like having 3 wooden roller coasters or 6 thrill rides in the park. Some of the checks forego money all together and instead require sacrificing a certain number of guests to the Elder Gods, causing them to explode and be removed from your park.
The goal is set with a modular objective system. So instead of obtaining 2,000 guests or building so many roller coasters, you can stack them. The default goal is 2,000 guests, 5 roller coasters with 5 excitement, 5 intensity, and 4 nausea, 800 park rating, loan paid off, and having 5 randomly selected rides in the park.
And of course, it wouldn’t be Archipelago without traps and Death Link. So far there’s 3 traps you can find. The Bathroom trap maxes out the bathroom stat on every guest in the park. The spam trap floods your window with pop up messages (Don’t worry, you can quickly close windows with backspace 😉). And finally, there’s the furry convention trap. We don’t talk about the furry convention trap. ```terraria is one game I can most definitely tell that I'm likely going to have no problem with maximum randomization if I can have qol mods and journey mode
And funnily enough the game setup page says they simply recommend using those
clear summit
The developer explains OpenRCT2 like this:
```The way I’ve implemented the game ...
That sounds both interesting and intriguing
midnight depot
Yeah, that's why I want to give it a try
You can pick any of the vanilla scenarios, and pick a difficulty for the goal
clear summit
The highly exploitable nature of the game can make it very cheesy or sometimes very awkward
Imagine you get one ride and it's something like, idk, heartline twister
clear summit
Meanwhile you can start with things like motion simulator or corkscrew or looping or go-karts
midnight depot
For example, tree removal is in sphere 1, so you can't get stuck easily
Maybe instead of running a short hike I can run both terraria and openrct2
clear summit
All achievements may sound crazy but it's surprisingly easy with journey mode enabled
The only unfortunate thing is that it says the randomizer is based on 1.4.3, and that means shimmer is out
midnight depot
Shimmer is a lot of fun but I never got to experiment with it much
clear summit
It's a very powerful tool, it's less powerful with journey mode but it is still powerful
midnight depot
If I recall correctly, you can also do Terraria in multiplayer, but I don't think I want to do that.
clear summit
I'm looking at the achievements, most seems to be pretty doable, some stuff like biome chest would can be a little worse but journey mode has 10x spawn rate so it would be fine
midnight depot
I will be doing no grinding
clear summit
I'm gonna be only playing terraria so all achievement+zenith goal sounds like good enough
mech boss goal seems way, way too short
midnight depot
Yeah
midnight depot
Hi. Time to test OpenRCT2
clear summit
midnight depot
Step 1, update the game
midnight depot
Time to get rid of the output files from last month
Here's a backup
Next, I gotta set up the example YAML
I'll use this YAML to test. Maybe modify it later
It works!
It even locks additional game speeds as items https://i.imgur.com/KThCQ6G.png
Next, I will set OoT up
For OoT I'm going to do 10 progression balancing and minimal accessibility.
There
fresh hill
like last time, I don't feel like setting up any "new" games this month, so I'm gonna roll some dice again:
1 - A Hat in Time, 2 - Ender Lilies, 3 - Hollow Knight, 4 - Tunic
all right, I'm playing Hollow Knight with the Hat Kid skin /s
midnight depot
Do you want me to set you up with a big YAML that uses triggers to pick two random subyamls for you each time I generate?
fresh hill
nah
fresh hill
it's almost never going to be the same set of games I want to roll dice on, and I almost always want to tweak the settings after deciding on the games
clear summit
I am quite excited this time, I am pretty sure terraria is a game that randomizer will work much more properly
midnight depot
Speaking of which
I'm setting up Terraria for myself
Are there any mods you recommend aside from the ones in the setup guide?
clear summit
uhhh
Some QoL mods can go too far and make the challenge trivial
You can have things like shortened respawn timer
Which is I think ok to use
midnight depot
I think I like the forced break by normal respawn timers
clear summit
no tombstone can be useful
I think no tombstone mod adds the tombstone recipe so that you can make an artificial graveyard biome
Pylon related mods can go either way, some may consider it too cheaty while others may consider it a decent QoL mod
there are 5 major restrictions with Pylons
- You can't buy it if the NPC is not happy
- You can't buy a biome Pylon from an NPC that is not in that specific biome
- Only 1 pylon per type
- You need 2 NPCs near the pylon to use them
- You need to be near the pylon to use them
Some mods allow you to disable some or even all of the restrictions
recipe browser, wmitf(What mod is this from), boss checklist, Census mod(NPC checklist) can all be useful
midnight depot
Yeah
clear summit
Many people like using improved boss healthbar mods
clear summit
recipe browser, wmitf(What mod is this from), boss checklist, Census mod(NPC che...
actually wmitf won't be too useful in this case, since we're not going to use any major game-changing mods(i.e. calamity)
gemtogem mod is decent especially when you are using magic storage, but it can be considered borderline cheating mod
(It adds recipes that convert gems to other gems, which means with research function in journey mod you only need 1 type of gems to be researched)
Magic storage requires you certain gems to create its storage system, so it can sometimes be quite annoying to grab those
I think that's all I can think of rn, tbh journey mode itself is such a massive qol improvement already
midnight depot
Thanks!
clear summit
I'll tell more if I can think of more, or I can find more during my setup
midnight depot
I'm going to test this setup in just a moment
clear summit
I excluded things like shoe/wing slot mod, since they are just blatant upgrade rather than qol
Oh yeah there is a "Craftable Accessories" mod
I think it should count as a grind-reduction mod, thus a qol mod
fresh hill
hm, when was the last time I played HK for one of these? I can't remember if these .yaml changes are ones I've played with before or not
midnight depot
#1119170161518334004 message
fresh hill
so it really was just the one time
then probably almost everything in this .yaml is new for me
ah, now I remember, the second time was for my solo rando that month you all decided to play OoTMM instead
midnight depot
Makes sense.
midnight depot
I'm bugtesting https://i.imgur.com/D91jEaD.png
In the end, it turned out that I was on the UK localization which makes the executable automatically change the name of the scenario https://i.imgur.com/R160FM7.png
So switching to US fixed the problem
wet field
ANOTHER W FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICAAAAAA 
🦅 🇺🇸
Also I wanna play oot again for March. I can give you the yaml after work today
midnight depot
That's excellent! I was wondering if you were burnt out
wet field
Nope
midnight depot
Apparently there's a theme park called Mystic Mountain in Jamaica
Maybe that's why the name was changed to Mothball Mountain in the US
fierce vale
people just booked like 8 things for me to do next month so i might skip this month
midnight depot
A fine addition to my collection. The fifth YAML so far
weary lagoon
do you think ootmm might be ready tomorrow?
midnight depot
No
lament tusk
what about ww?
midnight depot
Wind Waker is already playable. Artiks played it
Oracle of Seasons has just been released
https://github.com/Dinopony/Archipelago/blob/oos/worlds/tloz_oos/docs/oos_setup_en.md
midnight depot
I'm creating the game early tomorrow. Does anyone else intend to join and would like an extension?
fresh hill
oh right, I need to finalize my yamls
the mod keeps generating more random tasks to distract me
midnight depot
Oh I forgot you haven't sent me yours yet
weary lagoon
I think I would like to join, but I have a fever
midnight depot
Ah yeah, that sucks. It's okay if you join but do not play for the first week or so until you recover
fresh hill
ok urgent mod tasks done
I don't think the AHiT apworld has changed since last time and test worlds are probably overkill with how many times we've played that particular game, so here's just the yamls
midnight depot
You got it!
Ah, you're keeping geo rocks local and making boss stuff priority
I should probably do that for OoT
I like how you're keeping your own notes on the file
fresh hill
after 10+ years of software development, good maintenance habits are like muscle memory
I can't not add comments
iirc Hollow Knight, Blasphemous, Tunic and Ender Lilies are the games where I like to prioritize boss locations, since otherwise it's just too tempting for me to put them off and do "easier" checks
midnight depot
For me the reason I prioritize hard locations is it sucks when the reward is bad
fresh hill
two sides of the same coin
it could still be a GST, but the odds of it being good progression are still way higher
midnight depot
Okay. These are the YAMLs I have so far. Instead of hosting the game first thing next morning I'm going to wait until <t:1709294400:R> just in case
Oh thanks discord
There
fresh hill
that was a heck of a rounding error
midnight depot
In that case I recommend setting all of these to yes at minimum
Plus difficult skips from the other column
Turn complex skips and acid skips on only if you're fine with a couple of highly precise dashes
weary lagoon
I wonder what HK is on steam
i only have the game on the nintendo
165 kroner
randomizing stags is fine because this has bench warp right
midnight depot
Yes!
midnight depot
Oh wonderful.
You're playing two games this time
Let me find the old OoT YAML
Thank you, @midnight depot for putting a backup of all the YAMLs used in this channel
This is the file I'll use for your OoT
midnight depot
All right, time to generate. I have nine files to generate with.
midnight depot
That took longer than usual
clear summit
👀
clear summit
letsgo
midnight depot
I will update the pin once I'm done with this rogue legacy game
clear summit
I forgot to downgrade my tmodloader 😔
midnight depot
Pin updated. Tracker page is https://archipelago.gg/tracker/6omFon79TE2mdh_KTZ2FWg
clear summit
Wow I have only 114 check with that setting
Terraria really does have way less checks
Also OpenRCT tracker looks like ass
midnight depot
The game is pretty early in development, so items don't yet have names
midnight depot
Six ice traps, instant death
clear summit
I'm skipping early-game nights, I think it is fine
midnight depot
The part of the spoiler file that contains player settings
wet field
Six ice traps, instant death
I have double damage on, so instant death might actually be a risk lol
Poor bastard
I think for this run I'll try my best to not use save states
wet field
I loooove savestates
They're just too powerful
If I fuck something up I wanna feel the true painful ramifications of my actions
midnight depot
Okay, that's enough RCT2 https://i.imgur.com/XPn8f5B.png
clear summit
They're just too powerful
Meanwhile me: Maybe I will use Godmode
midnight depot
Hmm, for some reason I can't get the emulator to recognize my controller
weary lagoon
I was wondering if anyone had found my focus yet
clear summit
I crashed my terraria 
wet field
It's free! https://i.imgur.com/aLOAlrK.png
clear summit
I think I got a whole ass heart container for krat
wet field
I think I got a whole ass heart container for krat
Maybe I'll survive the ice trap onslaught
fresh hill
I will be very late to this party since a) I am incapable of waking at a reasonable hour on Fridays, and b) today is Dune day so that's gonna be most or all of my evening
midnight depot
I'm struggling to bust out of kokiri forest because I don't even have access to sticks
Maybe one of the lost woods scrubs has something?
Hint: Mask of Truth has my speed https://i.imgur.com/wu8gm37.png
Hint: My target in the woods is mirror shield for Kratta https://i.imgur.com/2JNmFxM.png
Ah well, https://i.imgur.com/T9WSV0Y.png
Maybe I'll play Terraria
wet field
I'll be able to start my game tomorrow night
midnight depot
Take your time. March is a 31 day month
clear summit
I was wondering what BK would be like in Terraria
I quickly realized that WoF is a check in the list
midnight depot
Oh yeah
clear summit
So I may end up killing WoF and not get Hardmode until someone grabs it
midnight depot
You should hint for Hardmode so people can avoid it
A common tip in async games is to do Terraria first (or avoid randomizing hard mode)
wet field
Did it actually expire or is it just saying that
midnight depot
Good
He can avoid going there until you're ready for it
Hard mode permanently increases the difficulty of the game, even if you start a new game
clear summit
Ocarina for Artiks
OH
So since boss clear status is randomized, NPC spawns also follow that...
midnight depot
Pale ore for Artiks
Now both hollow knight games have it
Hi.
Lumafly Lantern for Artiks
weary lagoon
Thanks. I'm afraid of the dark
midnight depot
All done for tonight. Terraria had Artiks's bomb bag, great slash, pale ore (2x), stag nest stag, and Ixrec's time pieces, subcon well contract, charm notch
[Hint]: TrrFlitter's Hardmode is at Forest Temple Phantom Ganon Heart in OoTFlitter's World at DMC Fire Temple Entrance -> Fire Temple Lower. (not found)
weary lagoon
crazy its day 1 and we already beat the game
wet field
yeah
clear summit
Terraria randomizer is way worse than I thought, it thinks I didn't clear the goblin army and infinitely spams it
weary lagoon
thinking its about time for some 6 in the morning zelda
Already TWO INSANE items for hollow knight ixrec
CAN WE MAKE THAT ThREE
HOLY HELL 4??
clear summit
I assume you didn't randomize your sword
weary lagoon
Navis sound is the nearby skulltula sound this is going to be so incredibly tilting
correct
ill only rando kokiri sword in versions where you can do progressive sword
is gold ring in jays game important
another insane ixbug item he might be in go mode
clear summit
Terraria randomizer is way worse than I thought, it thinks I didn't clear the go...
You solved this problem
weary lagoon
goblins are real
clear summit
is gold ring in jays game important
not really, it's just a random item
It is a rare drop, but it is nowhere close to being necessary
midnight depot
I think that's your fireball
clear summit
How many ice traps are you sending to flitter artiks
weary lagoon
well flitter turned on mega ice mode
weary lagoon
if I buy Herrah is my game just in corrupted crossroads from the beginning 👴
clear summit
wtf
weary lagoon
gold ring acquired!!
weary lagoon
i think ive only done a few out of logic checks
weary lagoon
fresh hill
is that the first snail shaman in the middle of crossroads?
weary lagoon
Potential Dampe world record
clear summit
I personally hate WoF as a boss, it is overall a cool boss with a cool concept but "make a super long bridge" is not really fun
it is done anyway
feels really weird to not be in a hardmode after beating it
Ixrec can now freely get the "Subcon Forest-Swamp Treehouse" in Hat in Time
I'm in a semi-BK until then
lament tusk
He's a really cool boss the first few times you beat him, before you figure that out
After that you just run away, yeah
weary lagoon
i think we have played enough to kill flitter 5 times over now, well done everyone.
midnight depot
Oh yeah my ice traps randomized to be on the onslaught setting
Let's find out how many times I actually die
Thanks for claim check, death, adult wallet, bomb bag, zelda's lullaby, death, death, song of storms, death, greg
It was four deaths
weary lagoon
greg?
midnight depot
Giant's knife for me
clear summit
There is also one by palworld developers
weary lagoon
hollow knight with guns nice idea
midnight depot
My Dodongo's Caverns is Fire Temple
weary lagoon
Wow, hollow knight only took 20 seconds to download
Does Lumafly have a mod that turns the knight into Goku?
midnight depot
I think there is
clear summit
Artiks can you believe that OoT had a MHA reference 26 years ago
midnight depot
Custom Knight is a mod that allows you to customize sprites, but the sprites have to be found elsewhere
Double defense for Artiks
weary lagoon
I heard that deku means weak or something in japanese
clear summit
deku deez nuts
weary lagoon
good thing I got double defense before reading that
How come I already have all the menu styles
did I accidentally cheat by getting lumafly..
clear summit
deku means wooden doll or marionette, but also it often means "useless person"
weary lagoon
oh I dont have the soul of iron one I have on my nintendo, so maybe these are default
so you can play this game without having the archipelago client open like you have to with OoT?
midnight depot
The game is the client
You have to make a save and connect to the server to play otherwise you risk losing items
Serenade of Watter for Kratta
weary lagoon
I only have the game open but according to the tracker website im connected
clear summit
Great, I found my Jungle Temple
midnight depot
I only have the game open but according to the tracker website im connected
yeah you connect through the game itself
midnight depot
Yeah I sent it to you super early, but only the right one
weary lagoon
ye but not just dash, the shade cloak
midnight depot
Oh that's weird
Lake Hylia owl takes me to Gerudo Fortress
There's nobody there (except inside)
midnight depot
Uh, L1 is map?
weary lagoon
Also what is that options menu next to continue? I clicked on deploy and now its counting down from 300
midnight depot
I have no clue. Let me launch my own copy of the game
weary lagoon
also those grubfather hints in the bottom corner are stuck there even during gameplay
midnight depot
You can hide those in the settings
You can hide hints here https://i.imgur.com/yiZbzGl.png
Under options, mods, Archipelago Map Mod
For Benchwarp I recommend these settings https://i.imgur.com/NLE1kPl.png
(Plus maybe turn Warp Only to On if you like the minimalism)
You can configure your map from here https://i.imgur.com/q8eu53b.png but I can't access that menu without an ongoing archipelago game
weary lagoon
surprised to see this game has over 600 checks even when I turned off geo
midnight depot
Geo checks get counted even if you turn them off
weary lagoon
I died this game sucks
midnight depot
They just randomize geo rocks into themselves
weary lagoon
oh i have the up spell
seems like I cant open the door to the stag station in dirtmouth
midnight depot
You need the dirtmouth stag to open the door
It's an exception where getting the stag opens the door but you can always ride the stag there
midnight depot
Press start, select the bench you'd like to warp to and click warp
The benches should be listed up top, unless you turned warp only on, in which case it'll warp you to the latest bench you were at
weary lagoon
i had accidentally hidden the menu
5 charm notches no charms..
i spent 300 geo on the hover badge because it sounded like something that can make you fly
midnight depot
It kinda does
weary lagoon
the false knight with only down slash is very hard. Maybe even impossible
midnight depot
My sarcasm detector is going off
weary lagoon
no hes killed me twice now
midnight depot
If you haven't played in a while it can be hard to develop a strategy for him, but he's pretty doable, though rather slow
midnight depot
Well done!
weary lagoon
i got the biggoron sword thats hollow knight beaten
midnight depot
Oh nice
weary lagoon
I have the jetpack mod
midnight depot
Then go up there and dream nail the tree
weary lagoon
No..
Who cares about map for the ice cavern
i have to beat the tree to get the item..
Quick slash for 1 notch, maybe the greatest trade deal in history?
doesnt the lady in town usually sell the compass?
midnight depot
Probably
fresh hill
I believe so
fresh hill
sorry, I'm still getting sucked into modding stuff
I'm dangerously close to being able to release this
clear summit
I think I am officially in a total BK mode
I don't think I have a single check left
Weird, I think Dryad is supposed to move in since I got post-evil boss
Oh wait my time was frozen
Oh, this is how Alchemist mod break the progression
Ok I'm not gonna grab it for now
midnight depot
Hi. Time to play a little OpenRCT2
midnight depot
Thanks for the spam trap https://i.imgur.com/LtAuKAj.png
https://i.imgur.com/LEGFCHu.pngAnd the furry trap
lament tusk
needs more entertainers
midnight depot
There are 50 of them. I fired them all because they outnumbered my guests
My first ride https://i.imgur.com/udBD3QG.png
I can't build anything higher or faster
lament tusk
microcoasters ftw
midnight depot
I'd rather build something with an excitement rating over 1
Hmm, what do I buy? https://i.imgur.com/T8YeWlB.png
And I bought everything I could
Surprisingly good items https://i.imgur.com/HJglZHj.png
Snatcher's contract, spore shroom, void heart, deep focus, relic
Thanks for getting me the souvenir stall
One umbrella offsets all my operational losses from my useless coaster
What the fuck https://i.imgur.com/wvzxRvb.png
Okay, now that I have everything set up, I'm going to leave the game as it is and play Terraria while I make money
fresh hill
someday, I will play my game
midnight depot
It's only march 3rd
We are 10% finished so we're on track
Oh, Jay finished half of his game
clear summit
It's just how terraria goes.
It has not very many checks, and half of the checks are pre-hardmode doable
I'm in a BK mode rn and the latter half won't be as simple
weary lagoon
Me and my 2/3 focus based charms (no focus)
They should make Mawlek a little easier to do with only down slash and no healing
midnight depot
If you don't select proficient combat it's not in logic
clear summit
They should make Mawlek a little easier to do with only down slash and no healin...
It is almost as if they expected you to have more than that, unbelievable
weary lagoon
you cant even hit this guy with down slash
midnight depot
You can it's just a super narrow angle
weary lagoon
sometimes when I die and respawn on a bench my controller just stops working and the knight walks on his own to the left
midnight depot
That's weird. Certainly doesn't happen to me ever
weary lagoon
i opened the map and it scrolled me up to a corner and stopped working
midnight depot
Sounds like you have stick drift
weary lagoon
and that would cause all the other buttons on the controller to stop working?
midnight depot
No, that's a different problem
midnight depot
That's fair
weary lagoon
Lets see if my controller has magically fixed itself overnight
I died to the big golden bug
how many hits does he take with a lvl 1 nail
I won on the rematch
midnight depot
Oh can you not use your pale ore yet?
weary lagoon
I was actually trying to do that 30 seconds ago
I need left mantis claw to reach the smith
midnight depot
You can use the mosquito guys to pogo up
midnight depot
Nice
weary lagoon
i found kroooots bomb bag
wet field
Sweet
midnight depot
That's the first one!
weary lagoon
how do I hint in HK
midnight depot
I don't remember how to do so from inside the game but you can simply go to the game page and launch the text client then hint from there
clear summit
At this point probably a lot of checks are in Ix's game (no pressure)
weary lagoon
take your time
fresh hill
wow Terraria is an outlier
clear summit
Terraria has a very limited amount of checks, and most of them are simply achievements
And many of them doesn't require a lot of progress, but after certain point(basically where I am at rn) it depends on progress
weary lagoon
Kratta really started OoT and just skipped Midos house thats nuts
midnight depot
Why is the geo icon bad
fresh hill
it's the classic buy 25 geo for 275 geo
fresh hill
oh that
that's part of the Hat Kid custom skin, it's meant to resemble AHiT's pons
wow grubfather has nothing of value (not just this page)
midnight depot
I should edit the ocarina of time apworld to replace all junk with gold skulltula tokens
midnight depot
Nice work
midnight depot
Depends on whether Kratta wants to savescum
fresh hill
oh, does OoT have the same exploit as Pseudoregalia where you can just use a key, do the checks inside and reload to get the key back?
midnight depot
Yeah
But in OoT there are often chains of keys
In Gerudo Training Ground I think you need three keys minimum to do everything
fresh hill
these geo rocks don't feel very random so far
does setting the items to local just make rando act as if RandomizeGeoRocks was false
midnight depot
I don't think that's how it works, but Hollow Knight is often a unique case
fresh hill
it's definitely not how it should work, but yeah it wouldn't be HK's first longstanding bug
wait no I'm an idiot
that geo rock I just got was a grub in vanilla
midnight depot
Oh good
midnight depot
We're talking with save scumming.
weary lagoon
Yeah
midnight depot
You can go down one branch, load the save, go down the other.
weary lagoon
you need all of the keys except one to get to the ice arrows chest
midnight depot
Oh I guess I don't have a good internal map of it yet
fresh hill
one of the fun parts of LttP was realizing that some keys are optional and trying to figure out on the fly where I could use that
wet field
Kratta really started OoT and just skipped Midos house thats nuts
I was distracted by my tracker being weird about ER
fresh hill
ok yeah I'm getting greenpath and crystal peak-style geo rocks in crossroads, that setting's definitely working
weary lagoon
Mido is gonna be really upset
wet field
Mido can go fuck himself
weary lagoon
wtf
fresh hill
I forgot this isn't an early isma tear seed for once
@midnight depot think it's worth 12 geo?
midnight depot
No I've already got one
fresh hill
kk
midnight depot
Hi. Time to play Terraria
fresh hill
doesn't affect my settings this time but whoa they're actually trying to fix HK's fake locations problem https://github.com/ArchipelagoMW/Archipelago/pull/2898
midnight depot
Neat
fresh hill
I don't think she was expecting me to come this way
midnight depot
It's sad you don't get a cutscene or something for catching her unawares
You can do it in vanilla
midnight depot
:Hedidn'tlaugh:
fresh hill
for some reason I expected this guy to be vulnerable from the other side, but I guess not
midnight depot
In older versions if you shot at these guys while they were off screen they would die in one fireball
fresh hill
I only have downspell so can't use that trick
kroot's hookshot was the obvious must buy at Salubra's
Arti: do you need bombchus or did you get explosives some other way already?
and kroot's bow
I need to stop playing before I find your light arrows
ooooh I found a way into resting ground
neat, Xero first try with nothing but double jump
of course it's a GST
fresh hill
he doesn't even need a dream nail 
fresh hill
that's actually the entire reason I decided to look around the east half of crossroads
and there it is
midnight depot
Oh I noticed you don't need an elevator pass
How dare you not mod the game to be harder
fresh hill
I finally died and it sent me all the way back to crystal peak
ok, resting grounds is clear for now, including bench and shortcuts
nice
there we go, perfect place to stop this session
argh, not quite enough geo to redeem the pale ore
midnight depot
Just gotta wait for me to find you some boss geo
fresh hill
nah, just did the last few rooms available in west city and now I have enough
14.67%, yeah that's plenty for a while
next time I play will probably be AHiT
fresh hill
I fought 8 long hours (ignoring breaks) to find that pale ore
actually mostly to use my own pale ore, yours happened to be on the way
midnight depot
Hi
Time to play OoT
Thanks for Minuet of Forest, spirit temple boss key, bombchus, no deaths.
clear summit
How is your rct run looking like
midnight depot
Can't build anything substantial until I find more items
Oh this is cheap https://i.imgur.com/BXth9ow.png
weary lagoon
and sparkly
lament tusk
Seems like a scam
Dont buy it
midnight depot
Hint: My strength upgrade is in Kratta's death mountain trail https://i.imgur.com/id92gfz.png
I found my own ocarina!
lament tusk
Hell yeah
midnight depot
Oh, and my own maze
My water temple is water temple.
I gave my life for this time piece https://i.imgur.com/qFSRIPz.png
My shadow temple key ring
Mountain trail owl takes me to lost woods
[Hint]: OoTFlitter's Kokiri Sword is at Mafia Town - Camera Badge 2 in Ixhat's World. (not found) @fresh hill
That's enough OoT for today
fresh hill
why do I not know what "Camera Badge 2" is
midnight depot
I don't know what camera badge 1 and I finished the game several times
weary lagoon
`[Hint]: OoTFlitter's Kokiri Sword is at Mafia Town - Camera Badge 2 in Ixhat's ...
ill get right on it
ah wait thats not my game
fresh hill
yeah that's the game no one's played this month
midnight depot
It's okay, you can find my shop https://i.imgur.com/AOH1UpH.png
It's in grubdaddy's cache
midnight depot
I'd better play RCT and get them then
Two mazes layered atop each other
Unparalleled design genius
In order to continue in any meaningful capacity, I need to unlock the ability to build above tree height
clear summit
You play with Yen?
midnight depot
Yeah, I always did since I was a child
The prices make a lot more sense that way
The month over month financials are pretty good https://i.imgur.com/2qac0G3.png
I have the park in a state where I can run it forever at a profit
midnight depot
Let's play some OoT
Thanks for: Nothing
Am I glad I played even though I had no new checks
Strength for Artiks
weary lagoon
But how? You had no new checks!
midnight depot
Well I didn't get all my old checks
Shadow temple small key for kratta
Post Plantera for Jay
I dip my toe in the scummy water for one microsecond and I fucking die https://i.imgur.com/oGQoTpM.png
midnight depot
Bottom of the well key for Kratta
My bottom of the well is in Jabu Jabu's belly
Fire temple small key for Kratta
Oh, and a grub for Artiks
midnight depot
Stalwart Shell for Ixrec
That's BK mode!
Now for a short break, then some terraria
wet field
My bottom of the well is in Jabu Jabu's belly
What a strange creature
lament tusk
That's no well...
midnight depot
I think I'm in BK mode in Terraria too
midnight depot
Hi.
Oh, nevermind. I can't play today because I'm still in BK mode.
Oh, but I guess I could make a pretty park
midnight depot
She would look cute in a bow
weary lagoon
the dream nail was a bathroom trap
weary lagoon
nothing new to do in zelda
midnight depot
All done for tonight. Thanks for finding my Construction rights discount, post-pirate invasion, bottle(!), balloon shop
fresh hill
Ixhat on 0% after a week what a guy
my motivation for AP stuff kinda fell off a cliff after my mod got trapped in development limbo by common yet unreproducible crashes that no one has a clue how to fix
wet field
wet field
weary lagoon
I forgot that I can go there with Epona when I played yesterday
though im not sure if that gs is reachable without hook
midnight depot
my motivation for AP stuff kinda fell off a cliff after my mod got trapped in de...
Ah, that sucks
clear summit
I like terraria randomizer so far, but the very obvious downside to the games seems the existence of hardmode
fresh hill
another early Mafia Town seed, so goal for this session is to sweep that area
oh hey it's my Dream Nail
does that mean I can get arti's focus
midnight depot
What was focus locked behind again?
midnight depot
Might be tough to do this early
But yes, technically you only need enough stuff to reach the boss and dream nail him, plus uh
fresh hill
I won't actually do it, it's just funny that DN was literally my first item
midnight depot
I think there was a tricky jump in there
fresh hill
I had my mothwing from the start so I think the soul sanctum jumping is a non-issue?
unless I'm forgetting something
midnight depot
With double jump it should be fine
fresh hill
finding a lot of the good OoT items
midnight depot
Oh hell yeah
I've been watching a group of people play multiplayer OoT randomizer using Ship of Harkinian
fresh hill
I got excited when I saw Isma's Tear but it's arti's not mine
midnight depot
My Kokiri sword!
fresh hill
oh THAT'S what "Camera Badge" refers to
I always forget that NPC exists because I never noticed I could talk to him until like my 4th rando playthrough
seriously my awoken dream nail too
ok that's all the stray checks, shop time
aaaaaand I got the bug where it doesn't say any of the item names
thank goodness for auto hinting
midnight depot
OoT doesn't do any auto hint stuff
fresh hill
so I've noticed
midnight depot
Oh you should get a hollow knight skin for hat girl
fresh hill
does ahit have a skin mod
considering everything else going on I've had zero energy to go looking for such things
midnight depot
Well it has in-game skins, so I assume mods exist to extend that system
I found my food stall, finally!
It's been eight years
fresh hill
and now enjoy the trap my brewing hat unlocked
midnight depot
Bathroom trap is pretty funny, but only devastating in huge parks
fresh hill
ok we're done re-sweeping, time to complete some acts and see how much of my game is open atm
fresh hill
so much for umbrella logic
I think at this stage all it means in practice is I can do the "Roomba Rumbi Abuse" check
everyone's favorite
midnight depot
I don't remember what Rumbi is
fresh hill
I said good OoT stuff earlier but also a lot of good ArtiHK items
never gets old
Mafia Ball physics were on my side today
the mafia boss sold me your magic beans
midnight depot
Oh good
fresh hill
this is the Rumbi btw
midnight depot
I hate when I have bugs but no beans so I have to bug every bean patch but can't bean the patches
Oh
Beans had my ganon's castle boss key
fresh hill
oh, I think I have subcon and alpine available already
let's finish telescope 1 before I look around there
fresh hill
yup, lava level is a good time for a baby trap
first telescope BK'd (the time rift's in a level I don't have, the locked levels require hookshot badge)
fresh hill
found your Weird Egg, in this box fittlingly marked fragile
midnight depot
the scale you gave me had a bottle with milk for Kratta
wet field
Thanks for the milk
midnight depot
It was a grub
Time to do Dampe's race
Ah well https://i.imgur.com/9VMxykj.png
Thanks for holding the ice trap until I was done racing
fresh hill
thanks for not finding any traps while I was climbing the giant mushroom
midnight depot
Hylian shield for Kroot
fresh hill
what is a post-pirate
shy oyster
pirate that is a pirate after the golden age of piracy
fresh hill
that sounds more like an anti-pirate 
time to end the session with a death wish
it's just the one superboss, this should be nice and chill
shy oyster
or it could be a pirate that delivers mail
midnight depot
Post-pirate means that the flag for defeating the pirate invasion has been set for you
It's very badly worded
fresh hill
also thank you for the umbrella, I realize now half of Snatcher's openings would not be openings without it
shy oyster
snatcher sounds like a naughty word
midnight depot
Snatcher no snatching
fresh hill
ok maybe I don't have this fight in me today
midnight depot
Ah well
fresh hill
but that was enough deaths to unlock P&T so there's that
I'll save that for the start of next session
I believe I'm fully BK'd otherwise
22%? nice
midnight depot
Claim check for Artiks
weary lagoon
I won't actually do it, it's just funny that DN was literally my first item
unless?
Nice 54' flitter
Its no 52' but you should be proud
fresh hill
unless what?
fresh hill
well let's see if I can even get to soul master without death looping
actually do I even have a route to those parts of city...
midnight depot
With double jump? Yes, probably
fresh hill
probably, I just don't remember where
was this the elevator that needs a pass to open?
oh derp I got the City Storerooms Stag in my AHiT
aaaah, okay
midnight depot
Both elevators needed a pass to open
(If you have the option enabled. Otherwise elevator pass is not a thing)
fresh hill
there we go
midnight depot
Thanks for more bombs. Here's your rebate
Don't tell the game but that was out of logic
fresh hill
done shopping, let's actually do Soul Sanctum now
midnight depot
Shadow temple boss key for Artiks
fresh hill
the miniboss spontaneously grubified
fresh hill
the mistakes were guarding your bow
midnight depot
A mistake of them to do that
fresh hill
ok, now we're finally at the end goal of this session
FIRST TRY
granted you're not meant to have djump and 1 ore at this point but
midnight depot
The lower death mountain gold skulltula is a heart for someone. I will leave it https://i.imgur.com/JKH2SCM.png
midnight depot
Oh you need to leave the room and come back
Medigoron had my motion simulator. Great moneymaking ride
My fire temple is spirit temple
Which means I need the warp song to do child link
fresh hill
annoyingly, it won't tell me what the combat logic is on Soul Tyrant, only that it currently says "lol nah"
midnight depot
He is considered a pretty hard fight until the endgame
weary lagoon
you got this 🙂
fresh hill
first try: got two staggers before he finally beat me
midnight depot
Nice work
midnight depot
I'm also done with OoT for tonight
Having progressive strength would help me do more next time!
fresh hill
I know I found someone's oot strength, might've been artiks
midnight depot
Kratta has two of mine
fresh hill
decided to spend my AHiT hint points, since it's always hookshot and hats that are worth hinting there's no point sitting on those
do you know what "OpenRCT2_125" is?
midnight depot
The 125th check
fresh hill
lol
midnight depot
I could check the spoiler log for what it requires
But first
Are checks in order?
They are not
Oh, the spoiler log does not say what a check will cost
Is it not deterministic?
There's been talk of using the entrance field in hints to show the requirements of each OpenRCT2 check
My shopping list for RCT is Allow Tree Removal, Allow High Construction
fresh hill
that sounds like a very strange solution lol
midnight depot
[Hint]: RCTFlitter's Allow High Construction is at HF Southeast Grotto Chest in kroooooot's World. (found) wut
Oh that was tonight
[root at 2024-03-08 06:15:22,477]: (Team #1) kroooooot sent Allow High Construction to RCTFlitter (HF Southeast Grotto Chest)
As you can see I'm at check 23 and need 125