#Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer

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midnight depot
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Cheers!

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Well done indeed

lament tusk
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now for ganon's true super powered form thats actually way easier

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zelda had a sex change operation and took up her true calling

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touching final momenst with zelda

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alrighty im done
was i the last one to finish?

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ix hasnt 100% done their hat in time but i think hes done his goal

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next time i think im just making this a triforcehunt, screw that glitchy ganon fight

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also text rando was more annoying than fun

midnight depot
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True

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Thanks for joining me in the Archipelago game for January 2024. The playthrough file ends with Ixnaut, FlitterOoT, Ixhat, Chipknight, Kratta, Meganoot in this order. I've included the spoiler log. The game had 2479 checks in 40 spheres.

fierce vale
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PL_lunateehee now lets hope celeste is more reliably playable for next month

midnight depot
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Hello, everyone! I'm starting another Manechat Asynchronous Archipelago Game, with the intent of running until the end of February. If you're interested, please read the list of available games https://archipelago.gg/games and pick one or more games to run, then ping me so I can keep track of you and help you out with any problems.
The game will start February 1st or as soon as everyone RSVPs.
@fresh hill, @lament tusk, @wet field, @fierce vale you're invited, since you played last month's game. Everyone else is also welcome to join!

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For next game I'm playing Ocarina of Time, A Short Hike, and Rogue Legacy or Rollercoaster Tycoon.

lament tusk
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RCT is on the rando? how does that even work? you need to complete every scenario?

midnight depot
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I have no idea

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There's some sort of shop, difficulty and length options, traps

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It sounds fun

shy oyster
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how does a Super Mario 64 randomiser work

lament tusk
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just randomises stars into other games i think

fierce vale
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i'm likely going to see for setting up hat in time again, hollow knight, and celeste if it works

shy oyster
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waow

midnight depot
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I think @sage dawn played Super Mario 64 randomizer so she might be able to tell you in detail. My impression is that it randomizes levels, switches, key items and stars

lament tusk
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more info

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im tempted to try that but i also suck at sm64 lol
did when i was a kid, do as an adult

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hmm
raft is tempting

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subnautica is suprisingly easy in the rando

midnight depot
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Apparently old school RuneScape is now in archipelago

lament tusk
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...how? thats an mmo

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you can run it locally now?

fierce vale
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no, its just a manual one

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i think it has a plug in for a custom client

lament tusk
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oh ok

fierce vale
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someones also making a manual one for league of legends

midnight depot
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It's not manual anymore

fierce vale
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neat!

midnight depot
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This is a Randomizer for OSRS's Free To Play mode. It would entail creating a new account as an Ironman and progressing the account up through to completion of Dragon Slayer I. Playing requires the use of a RuneLite plugin to handle unlocks and assign tasks.

Unlockables include:
- Map Chunks
- Tiers of weapons, armor, and tools

Tasks include:
- Quests
- Randomly generated skill tasks based on your options
- Specific monsters to seek out and kill
- Account progression milestones, such as total level, XP, and combat levels

Options:
- Choose your starting area (Default, specific cities, "Any Bank" and "Chunksanity")
- Whether or not to disallow "Brutal" grinds (such as needing to level all the way to smelting gold using only bronze bars)
- A maximum amount and maximum level for tasks in each skill
- A minimum amount of general progression tasks

The plugin interfaces with the `region-locker` plugin to unlock portions of the map as you receive items, serving as your primary form of progression. Tiers of armor, weapons, and tools are unlocked as items and cannot be equipped without them. The plugin will also tell you what your randomly assigned skill tasks are, and what you still have left to accomplish.```
lament tusk
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actually i think im gonna bug out of this one. might change my mind closer to the date but right now i dont wanna do another rando

midnight depot
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All right!

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Hope to see you in the next one

sage dawn
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You don't really need to be good at sm64 to rando it

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It's not super hard

weary lagoon
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its just like playing vanilla sm64 except you dont get your own stars so youre stuck waiting

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Im going to join

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Im not sure if both Hollow Knight and OoT is biting over more than I can chew

midnight depot
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I'd say the hardest part of the randomizer is installing it

midnight depot
weary lagoon
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if you dont set all of your win conditions to random are you even running oot..

midnight depot
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Yes

weary lagoon
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@midnight depot can you add suns song as a starting item to this

midnight depot
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Sure!

midnight depot
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Sun's Song without an Ocarina?

weary lagoon
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yes ill get an ocarina eventually while suns song could potentially never show up

midnight depot
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All right

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I'll try generating to see if the YAML is correct

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Nope. I did it wrong

weary lagoon
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Im gonna skip on hollow knight because the new WoW season begins february 8th

midnight depot
weary lagoon
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thanks

midnight depot
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Now I need to test item links

weary lagoon
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I will pass on that

midnight depot
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Hmm, this is not working as I expected

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    - name: Hookshots
      item_pool:
        - Kokiri Sword
      replacement_item: null
      link_replacement: true```
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This puts my Kokiri sword in a shop. When I got it, it was replaced with a junk item

midnight depot
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Okay, I think it works now

fresh hill
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I'm thinking for February, I don't feel like setting up any "new" games, instead I'm gonna randomly select one of the ones I've played before

weary lagoon
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Do Wind Waker

midnight depot
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Three copies of Outer Wilds

fresh hill
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so I'm gonna do two 1-6 rolls, meaning:
1 - A Hat in Time, 2 - Blasphemous, 3 - Ender Lilies, 4 - Hollow Knight, 5 - OW & PR (since they're short), 6 - Tunic

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OW, PR, and Blasphemous it is

midnight depot
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PR

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Uh

fresh hill
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Pseudoregalia

midnight depot
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Oh!

fresh hill
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there's no good abbreviation for it but sometimes I settle for PR

midnight depot
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So what happens if you were to get two snake sixes?

fresh hill
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I believe I have updates to do for these games so actual setup will be later

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two Tunic worlds maybe?

fierce vale
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Sally_firedup the return of the legendary double hatty time

midnight depot
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I meant to say two snake eyes and then changed it to two sixes

fresh hill
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double of the same game I'd definitely come up with different settings for each world

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AHiT probably I'd set a different goal for each, give one world lots of DWs and the other none, that kind of thing

midnight depot
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Okay, so item link testing is inconclusive

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Spoiler log says Item Link: Kokiri Sword -> FlitterOo2 1 (Kokiri Swords): Kokiri Sword (FlitterOo2) Item Link: Kokiri Sword -> FlitterOoT 1 (Kokiri Swords): Kokiri Sword (FlitterOoT) Item Link: Progressive Hookshot -> FlitterOo2 2 (Hookshots): Progressive Hookshot (FlitterOo2) Item Link: Progressive Hookshot -> FlitterOo2 1 (Hookshots): Progressive Hookshot (FlitterOo2) Item Link: Progressive Hookshot -> FlitterOoT 2 (Hookshots): Progressive Hookshot (FlitterOoT) Item Link: Progressive Hookshot -> FlitterOoT 1 (Hookshots): Progressive Hookshot (FlitterOoT)

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And I have it set up like so:

    - name: Kokiri Swords
      item_pool:
        - Kokiri Sword
      replacement_item: Kokiri Sword
      link_replacement: true
    - name: Hookshots
      item_pool:
        - Progressive Hookshot
      replacement_item: Progressive Hookshot
      link_replacement: true
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This does NOT look right, but it seems to... work right???

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In game, getting a Kokiri Sword does indeed give everyone a Kokiri sword

wet field
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Hell yeah I figured out the Hyrule Castle Storms Grotto GS with Just Boomerang trick, you just throw the boomerang at the mud wall and it clips through

midnight depot
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Fake news, you need ocarina and song of storms too

wet field
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true

midnight depot
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I decided not to do item links this month because I'm too lazy to test them exhaustively.

fresh hill
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one day, someone will do an item link with my world and I'll be forced to learn how they work

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but today is not that day

midnight depot
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Time to test Rogue Legacy

shy oyster
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how does a Super Mario World randomiser work

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wtf why are Mario's moves taken away

fierce vale
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budget cuts

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(also its funner in randomisers to have your abilities expand as you go, you can probably remove the move randomisation if you want though

shy oyster
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i see

midnight depot
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Rogue Legacy seems like a lot of fun

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At least, with the easy baby mode settings I picked

midnight depot
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You cannot, in fact, make it so you always keep your basic moves, but you can set the game up so you get them back early.

fierce vale
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is the starting items not a universal option?

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its not really intended but

midnight depot
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It is near universal but implemented differently per game

midnight depot
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Okay.

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I'm all done with my YAMLs

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1- Made A Short Hike even fucking easier.
2- Rogue Legacy should take some time but have no major roadblocks.
3- OoT is more random than before.
4- Changed names so the name of the game is included first (makes it easier to tell who got an item in OoT without having to alt tab to the client.)

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As a reminder, we start three days from now, on Thursday February 1st. I have YAML files from Artiks and myself. Ixrec and Kratta expressed interest. Is anyone else playing? Do you need any help testing or setting up?

fierce vale
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do you know if celeste is in a better state now?

midnight depot
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It is in exactly the same state as before.

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However, not that many people seem to be running into issues with it like I did

fierce vale
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if people are fine with me rolling the dice, i'll likely do that+ hollow knight again

midnight depot
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I'm definitely fine with it. Good luck!

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By the way. You can set up a YAML that automatically selects random games to be on or off if you like metarandomness

shy oyster
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there should be a Shovel Knight randomiser

midnight depot
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There is

fierce vale
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rdsnrk metarandomness could be fun, but i usually go from what i feel like playing

midnight depot
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Correction: There isn't.

fierce vale
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awwyeah pull an ixrec and just make it, i believe in you cap

fresh hill
fierce vale
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sbstare challenge accepted, im making billy hatcher rando

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||im not doing that||

midnight depot
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The biggest issue with Shovel Knight is it's like five different games

fierce vale
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honestly if implemented right that would just make it more fun

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unlock new characters and the worlds for them separately

midnight depot
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They have a custom engine, and if I recall correctly it's in C++, making decompilation a lot trickier than with an ordinary game.

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And they did not provide modding tools

wet field
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Just read assembly

midnight depot
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You read assembly

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I can't even read English

wet field
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Same 🤝

fresh hill
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a big reason why I settled on Outer Wilds is that it's "just Unity"

fierce vale
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dumbtiktok oh boy, assembly is my speciality

midnight depot
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I never worked in assembly. I did work with raw logic gates before though

fierce vale
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UraWheeze 90% of my debugging is working in disassembly

wet field
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Oh cool you can make shovel knight rando for us

fresh hill
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one of my university classes was learning how assembly languages typically work, using a toy assembly language and interpreter

midnight depot
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Have you seen how much Ghidra costs?

fresh hill
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because they cut out all the ugly stuff and gave it a magic instruction to just print a character to a screen location, it was surprisingly productive

wet field
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Who needs Ghidra

fresh hill
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and I ended up reimplementing Centipede in it for fun

midnight depot
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Flitter

shy oyster
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i just meant Shovel of Hope not the expansions

wet field
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I'm afraid the whole reading assembly thing is gonna be an issue anyways

midnight depot
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I only like the expansions

shy oyster
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whaaaa

fierce vale
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plague of shadows and spectrr of torment are dope, i dont remember playing king of cards

midnight depot
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King of Cards was super unique and pretty great

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My preference goes:
Plague of Shadows
King of Cards
Shovel Smash Bros
Specter of Torment
Shovel of Hope
Challenges

shy oyster
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damn

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mine probably goes
Shovel of Hope
Specter of Torment
King of Cards
Plague of Shadows
Showdown
Challenges

midnight depot
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Every once in a while I consider starting a separate thread for randomizers

wet field
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Hell yeah

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I forgot how good the portal radio was

midnight depot
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Hi.

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Having received three more games from Ixrec we are already at the same number of games from last month

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(renamed for my own convenience. Player names should be the same.)

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Once Kratta and Chip have their YAMLs ready I can generate the game and we can begin.

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Maybe I should have put the list in a zip file

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(This is easier to examine in desktop without having to download each file)

lament tusk
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Oh you're starting today?

fierce vale
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they usually just start once everyone has submitted

midnight depot
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We're starting whenever everyone who expressed interest has submitted a YAML, because people who have not don't tend to care

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And we have the day after tomorrow as a deadline (unless someone wants to extend it a bit)

lament tusk
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Well I was just debating doing another quick subnautica run

midnight depot
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That'd be fun! Feel free to take your time to decide

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We'll try to start on the first of February.

lament tusk
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i forgot how simple subnautica was to set up lol
i've already done it too

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oh no i havent, subnautica wasnt installed ppenk

midnight depot
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Wonderful!

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And added

lament tusk
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im ready to go whenever

midnight depot
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Gotta wait for Kratta and Chip

weary lagoon
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@fierce vale @wet field Please for the love of god hurry I want to save Anjus chickens so badly

lament tusk
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i'd just like to say, i went from in bed to fully dressed, downloaded the game and set up the randomiser in 22 mins
that aint bad

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yes i was still in bed at 17:09

fresh hill
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I barely made it up at 11, and probably would not have if there wasn't a Tuesday morning meeting

fierce vale
weary lagoon
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Anju is the hot chick bro

fierce vale
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sorry i hate that gal, i'll take as long as possible

lament tusk
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th hot chick who gets all the chicks

fresh hill
midnight depot
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Hot chicks can be guys too

weary lagoon
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@ancient harness you should join with pokemon red and lvl up a pidgey

midnight depot
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Why would anyone play Pokemon Red when Emerald is on archipelago?

weary lagoon
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Harder to get Pidgey

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let me know when Soul Silver is on there

midnight depot
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Crystal is also there

weary lagoon
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thats the good one

lament tusk
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because red was literally the first video game i ever played?

weary lagoon
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I thought crystal was in early beta

midnight depot
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Yes! It's not marked playable but

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You can technically play it

weary lagoon
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I like playable games

midnight depot
lament tusk
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OOF

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true tho

midnight depot
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I think my first one was actually Pokemon Gold or Crash Bandicoot 1

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But I did play Red soon after

fresh hill
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my first Pokemon game was Snap

wet field
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what did I do to deserve this?

midnight depot
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I would've liked Pokemon red more if I could figure out the catch mew glitch

wet field
midnight depot
lament tusk
fresh hill
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N64

midnight depot
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Is it because each trick is on an individual line?

wet field
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man I hope not

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that's how vscode auto-formatted it

midnight depot
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Does VScode know how to format YAML?

lament tusk
# fresh hill N64

best one
the new one is great but nothing beat's professor oak's WONDERFUL! in the original, im sorry
unironically the thing i miss most in the new game

wet field
fresh hill
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in retrospect, breaking through magical energy shields by throwing apples seems pretty silly

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but it was fun

wet field
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I deleted ~half the logic tricks and it worked. One of them must be spelled wrong or something

fresh hill
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(the joke was I've never played a mainline Pokemon)

midnight depot
wet field
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should be equivalent I think. the dashes indicate list items

midnight depot
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You probably have one misspelled, yeah

wet field
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Ice Cavern Frozen Rupee with Nothing was the culprit

midnight depot
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I love binary search

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You're supposed to use this list

wet field
wet field
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oh that makes sense

midnight depot
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So the only valid tricks are 'Ice Cavern Block Room GS with Hover Boots': { 'name' : 'logic_ice_block_gs', 'tags' : ("Ice Cavern", "Skulltulas",), 'tooltip' : '''\ The Hover Boots can be used to get in front of the Skulltula to kill it with a jump slash. Then, the Hover Boots can again be used to obtain the Token, all without Hookshot or Boomerang. '''}, 'Ice Cavern MQ Red Ice GS without Song of Time': { 'name' : 'logic_ice_mq_red_ice_gs', 'tags' : ("Ice Cavern", "Skulltulas", "MQ",), 'tooltip' : '''\ If you side-hop into the perfect position, you can briefly stand on the platform with the red ice just long enough to dump some blue fire. '''}, 'Ice Cavern MQ Scarecrow GS with No Additional Items': { 'name' : 'logic_ice_mq_scarecrow', 'tags' : ("Ice Cavern", "Skulltulas", "MQ",), 'tooltip' : '''\ A precise jump can be used to reach this alcove

wet field
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I'm excited to start; I've got overworld + dungeon entrances randomized, bosses randomized, and a lot more logic tricks to potentially have to do. And most importantly, background music off this time

weary lagoon
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and ive shuffled the weird egg

wet field
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Can't forget to shuffle the weird egg

midnight depot
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Shuffle the weird egg only into song locations

weary lagoon
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@fierce vale youre giant chicken yellow now so make sure to talk a lot

fierce vale
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of course bestie

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i shall use this infinite power

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(maybe)

fierce vale
midnight depot
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Oh thanks

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That's everyone! I'm going to double check that the YAMLs seem good and then generate and host a game in case anyone wants to play tonight

wet field
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hell yeah

fresh hill
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it has been a while since I played Blasphemous, might do a little of that just to see where my spawn rolls

midnight depot
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This one took a while to generate

fierce vale
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rdsnrk yeag

fresh hill
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dang, I'd better optimize OW some more then /s

midnight depot
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It's primarily the OoTs

fresh hill
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it's always the OoTs

midnight depot
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Oh hold on

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I'm not supposed to be Player1

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Ah well, the settings are correct

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Do let me know if you need anything

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In case anyone used randomized settings, here are the settings that ended up getting used:

wet field
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I never noticed this part and have been bewildered as to why the only surefire way for me to connect was to copy/paste the /connect command from this page yicant

fresh hill
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most common question in the AP server fr

midnight depot
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They should just make it so when you try to connect it starts up the server

fresh hill
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anyway, it's time for MULTIMUNDO

wet field
fresh hill
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neat, my free item Eponas Song

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ok I got the easiest possible non-vanilla spawn, polar opposite of last time I did this

weary lagoon
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Im on a 6 win streak in chess so I think Im gonna get some really good items.

fresh hill
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no money yet, but my first shop has Biggoron Sword, Scanner Room Fragment, Flitter's Dins Fire, and Love Key

midnight depot
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I like Din's Fire

weary lagoon
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i dont remember how to play archipelago

wet field
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Biggoron sword is a sound investment

wet field
weary lagoon
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thanks for fire arrows

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@midnight depot are gold skulltulas important for you? it costs 240 rupees

wet field
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If we don't get all 99 that family will stay cursed forever

midnight depot
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Yes I need every gold skulltula. Give me 100 and I'll have infinite money

wet field
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Oh there's 100?

weary lagoon
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my midos house is stacked

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this is the power of 6 win streak in chess

midnight depot
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I don't know, I never got more than 98

weary lagoon
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all very real and epic items

wet field
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Thanks

weary lagoon
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great purple tunic and black attack button

fresh hill
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oh boy, dragons

weary lagoon
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"Player1" gives me ootmm flashbacks

midnight depot
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Sorry

weary lagoon
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@fierce vale you can count on me

midnight depot
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I meant to name it RLFlitter

fierce vale
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ty besty

weary lagoon
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deku tree is dodongos cavern

fresh hill
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I've forgotten how to play and enemy rando is being quite brutal here

weary lagoon
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RED magic and BLACK attack button this is an edgy seed

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Wtf is Taranto to my Sister

fresh hill
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one of the Prayers (spells) in Blasphemous

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that one's pretty good if you can get it

weary lagoon
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no its 235 smackaroons

midnight depot
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Taranto to My Sister shoots down lightning to fuck up your enemies

fresh hill
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I died 3 times for this piece of paper

weary lagoon
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well its one of the best items

fresh hill
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omg I actually made it to the save point without another death

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that's a perfect stopping point

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849 tears should be enough to buy...

lament tusk
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somoene just gave me an inventoy's full of rare items

fresh hill
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Mega, how valuable is Scanner Room Fragment?

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I have to choose between that and Flitter's Dins Fire now

lament tusk
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a diamond, a ruby, a lithium, a kyanite

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dins fire

midnight depot
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Get the scanner room fragment

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Din's Fire is only useful when magic is available

fresh hill
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that is not what I expected derpyfacewing

lament tusk
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scanner is... not actually useful in the rando

midnight depot
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As long as you get Din's Fire eventually it should be fine

lament tusk
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scanner is not a priority, its a luxury

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din is a neccessaty, even if its not useful now

fresh hill
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I bought Dins Fire

midnight depot
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Cheers

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I have my game set up so I don't ever need Din's fire (can substitute with fire arrows in all situations)

fresh hill
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since Arti got me a super early Entanglement Rule I'm gonna also do just enough OW to reach the early check that unlocks

midnight depot
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I have set up an !alias RLFlitter which should make the log more clear

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[root at 2024-01-30 20:51:32,472]: Notice (all): RLFlitter (Player1) (Team #1) has left the game

weary lagoon
midnight depot
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Oh nice

weary lagoon
midnight depot
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Maybe instead of complaining that the gold skulltula tokens are useless

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I can just make them all priority checks

fresh hill
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"progressive liches"?

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do they start out as just legs hopping toward you?

midnight depot
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I think that one's equipment

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I set it so all my equipment and classes unlock progressively

fresh hill
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derp, I forgot the early check I'm thinking of needs one other item

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oh well

lament tusk
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forgot to get the map mod

fresh hill
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and that's OW in BK

weary lagoon
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this is the first time in the rando ive caught a fish thats too small

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I didnt know it was possible

midnight depot
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I always catch a fish that's too small because I'm bad and never memorize the good location

lament tusk
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lightweight high capacity tank!

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unfortunaly i got that for free seconds after crafting the regular high capacity tank

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i blame ixrec

weary lagoon
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sphere 0 complete coolpika

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i got a crazy amount of good stuff

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too bad I got to 10.14 and not 11 I wanted to hint biggoron sword

wet field
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Biggoron sword is a nonessential item!

midnight depot
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Wrong

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You're a nonessential item

wet field
fresh hill
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I keep misreading Chipleste as Chipotle

midnight depot
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I have never had Chipotle

fresh hill
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me neither

fierce vale
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same

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PL_lunateehee i can already tell celeste is going to have been a much bigger bite than i intended but oh well

fresh hill
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they say, clearing 25% in the first session

fierce vale
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fs_fascinating yeag, thats like 2 levels of strawberries, its the things like the c side crystal hearts that are suffering

fresh hill
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man, I barely made it to the summit when I played lol

fierce vale
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rdsnrk i've completeled all the b-sides before, the c-sides are hopefully limited in usefulness

midnight depot
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There's always assist mode

lament tusk
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yay, seaglide

fierce vale
lament tusk
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progressive strength flitter
is that useful? i dunno, probably not

fierce vale
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raywilliamjohnson i lied to myself and have now completed everything i can currently get for celeste

shy oyster
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that emoji rdsnrk

fierce vale
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NamazuThink i'm unsure what i should be hinting for levels, i seem to have unlocked level 7 from level 6's crystal heart, but i would have presumed a/b level completions would have been the item required

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either i read the log wrong or something bugged, probably the first considering i am incapable of reading like all the smartest chipmunksCoolCat

wet field
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time for ocarina of time

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Good start!

shy oyster
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"bastard" 😭

lament tusk
#

What?

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Oh the name

fresh hill
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damn, y'all're finding all my endgame OW items at the start this time

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and I can't use any of them yet ppenk

wet field
#

Empty Bile Vessel sounds cool I hope you enjoy it

fresh hill
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bile vessels are estus flasks (once I fill it up)

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so, yes, I very much will

wet field
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hell yea

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@fierce vale What's Dirtmouth_Stag and is it worth 965 rupees?

fresh hill
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stag stations are fast travel points in HK, some of them are super valuable

wet field
#

I am guessing this is not worth it

fresh hill
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the Dirtmouth one... not so much, since that's where the game starts

fierce vale
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ppenk thas a lotta rupees, dirtmouth is not

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you have really high rupee costs rdsnrk

fresh hill
wet field
midnight depot
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Dirtmouth stag, aside from the convenience, is guaranteed to have one check

wet field
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oh wow I forgot I had ER on that was really weird

shy oyster
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er ?

wet field
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entrance randomizer

shy oyster
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w ha t

wet field
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I went into the lost woods and ended up in hyrule field

fresh hill
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many randomizers have an option to also randomize which entrances connect to which exits

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I played Tunic with ER here not long ago

shy oyster
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that's so funny

fresh hill
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and I always play AHiT with "act rando" on, which is kinda like ER

shy oyster
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so you could possibly go through a door and end up at the last Ganon fight

fresh hill
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maybe not that exact spot, but broadly yes, part of playing in ER is just finding the final boss

midnight depot
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For Ocarina of Time specifically, the randomizer guarantees you have a walkable path to temple of time with no items, and that means anything where there's no backtracking is not allowed

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I have Ocarina of Time set so it can randomly decide to have entrance randomizer on or just keep things vanilla

shy oyster
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that's funny

fresh hill
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Flitter's done a lot of OoT rando

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I don't think I've randomized any single game that much yet

midnight depot
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It's a good complex game where the randomizer really works

midnight depot
fresh hill
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one thing I really want to do with Outer Wilds is randomize the inside of its final area

midnight depot
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Sabrina's Gym mode

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Pokémon Red Archipelago has a teleporter randomizer

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Sabrina's Gym in vanilla is just a teleporter maze you have to figure out

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With the teleporter randomizer it's a unique new hell every time

wet field
#

Oh that was really trippy yicant Hyrule Field -> Hyrule Castle Bridge got changed to Hyrule Field -> Hyrule Castle Market

midnight depot
#

Better get an entrance randomizer tracker if you're randomizing overworld

wet field
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tracker of time does that

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I am also keeping a text file

midnight depot
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It doesn't path for you

wet field
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What should I be using?

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btw flitter your magic beans cost 550 rupees

midnight depot
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I saw someone talk about an entrance randomizer tracker in the archipelago channel

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I'll look into it tomorrow

fresh hill
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apparently Tunic has some sort of ER tracker now, of course after I did my Tunic ER run

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whoa, early TGT

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this is gonna be the exact opposite of my last Blasphemous rando

midnight depot
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TGT

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That's three gnarled tongues

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The one that makes new platforms

fresh hill
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yep

wet field
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oh lol I forgot I had double damage on

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Artiks's water temple boss key costs 155 rupees

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Strawberries aren't important, right? I feel like Fluttershy buying the cherry

fresh hill
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I know there's a ton of them, are they all filler items?

wet field
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bruh a gold skulltula merked me next to hearts

wet field
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I feel like I'm in the trenches rn and I just started

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btw my low hp sound is the stone block dragging sound, I think?

fresh hill
wet field
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hell yeah, I'm glad they took a page from the genius design of fromsoft experiences

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Okay, so the other end of the hauted wasteland took me to upper DMC. Naturally I just enough health to roll into the gold skulltula crate and have it kill me instantly b/c I have deadly bonks on

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I did this so I could respawn in the same area, and for some reason that meant my shield had to get burned up, which I guess makes some sense but feels super mean.

So what was in the gold skulltula?

fresh hill
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ok that's one more location

wet field
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Also ocarina for Artiks!

wet field
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@weary lagoon I have the most wonderful news

wet field
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I'm not bk'ed but I'm gonna stop for now. Lots of important items!

fierce vale
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paissapretty you can set celeste to need strawberrys but i forgor to set that

fierce vale
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@weary lagoon heya bestie, can you get this immediatly tyty

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paissapretty also this please @midnight depot bestie

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dumbtiktok i just gotta hint every variation of level 7 complete, thats a good use of my hints

midnight depot
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Freestanding piece of heart?

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Like

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The tower piece of heart?

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That's never been valuable

fierce vale
#

@fresh hill also ix's shopping list

fierce vale
midnight depot
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I'll go get it after I make this nice cup of tea

fresh hill
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gemino's gift requires the non-empty golden thimble, so that'll be a while

fierce vale
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PL_lunateehee yeah, thats "unlocking my victory condition"

fresh hill
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Jondo was all red squares when I played but I forget what exactly that's blocked on

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oh probably wall climbing

fierce vale
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i also need 4 crystal hearts, but

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i did get a bunch of stuff for you, i dont know the game so i dont know if anything was useful

midnight depot
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You finished half the game already?

fierce vale
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i mean, you get almost exactly 10% completion for every main level that gets unlocked, and then i've got 4 checks on top of that from none main levels

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NamazuThink except summit which has reflections strawberries instead

midnight depot
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Thanks for...hookshot?

fierce vale
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hookshot was like, strawberry 2 i picked up in the first level

midnight depot
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Nocturne of Shadow, deku shield, gerudo training ground key ring, hookshot 2, jabu jabu's belly compass, megaton hammer, shadow temple key ring, strength, bow, fire arrows, light arrows, bombchus, forest temple key ring, lens of truth, ganon's castle boss key, goron tunic

fierce vale
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dumbtiktok i also got my monarch wings for chipknight so hopefully thats going to be a nice easy ish one

midnight depot
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With the bombchus I get to break out of my self enforced jail without having to find a sword

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So I'm going to beeline straight toward your item

fierce vale
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nyaissatriumph easy 55.3% game completion time

midnight depot
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Done

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Kokiri Shop contents:
Shadow Temple Small Key for Kratta 725
Spirit Temple Small Key for Kratta 360

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Hint: Scrub in Krater sells a short hike medal

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Hint: Gerudo Training Ground is Dodongo's Cavern again

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Hint: Slingshot is in uh

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Also hookshot for Kratta

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Oh, slingshot for me.

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I guess I don't need that one after all

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Goron City Shop contents:
Unbreakable Strength 505
My Ice Arrows 885

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Dodongo's Cavern is Shadow Temple

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Hint: Shadow Temple is Bottom of the Well

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Death Mountain Trail Owl takes me to Hyrule Field at the Kokiri exit

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Young Bazaar Shop contents:
Bouquet of Rosemary 900
Thieves Hiedeout Small Key for Kratta 845

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Potion Shop contents: Quicksilver 195

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Bombchu Shop contents:
Bead of Blue Wax 795

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That's enough for now

midnight depot
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Next is Rogue Legacy

fierce vale
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nyaissatriumph buncha slackers

lament tusk
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Yeah I need to do more checks

fresh hill
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I might do a little PR but overall I'll probably stick to the plan of holding back until people need some stuff I can actually get to

lament tusk
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I forget which wrecks need the laser cutter, it's annoying to spend 20 mins slowly swimming all that way (no seamoth yet) and manage my oxygen when I get there only to find it need to be cut open

fierce vale
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PL_lunateehee yeah, dw that was a joke, especially since i have a game with 0 checks

midnight depot
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I remember why I like this game

fresh hill
#

does dyslexia affect the gameplay

lament tusk
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It makes textboxes a bit messed up

fierce vale
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everything has messed up spelling

lament tusk
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Yeah

fierce vale
#

RL and RL2 are both great games that i am garbage at for some reason

lament tusk
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I never liked rl

midnight depot
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Yeah no

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Rogue Legacy 1 sucks ass by modern roguelike standards

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That's why I only played the randomizer when they added quality of life stuff

lament tusk
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Oh maybe I'd enjoy 2 more then
But I also don't care enough to try it

midnight depot
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I'm super interested in 2.

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2 seems to fix every problem 1 has, introduce all sorts of new neat stuff

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And the only problems I have with it are that it's expensive and too long

fierce vale
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i really enjoyed rl when i replayed it when rl2 entered early access

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its defo missing some stuff, but its not like, crazy egregious

midnight depot
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Yeah

fresh hill
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seems like I'll have plenty of prayers next time I do Blasphemous

fierce vale
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@weary lagoon this one too please bestie

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i should probably be being more reasonable and hinting things to unlock level 4/5

weary lagoon
#

Yeah now that I have the weird egg I should be in go mode

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you spoiled where my spirit temple and forest are with these hints hehe

lament tusk
#

Cheater!

weary lagoon
#

thanks for the gorons bracelet

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thanks for the hover boots

#

thanks for the ocarina, thats a good item

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thanks for the fairy bow

wet field
#

Your welcome

weary lagoon
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thanks for nayrus love

wet field
#

I know how to speak English!

weary lagoon
#

thanks for the slingshot

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thanks for the silver gauntlets

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thanks for the second bow

lament tusk
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Dual wield bows!

midnight depot
#

I was just imagining Link with two hairbows

weary lagoon
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zeldas letter was zeldas letter

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zeldas lullaby was zeldas lullaby

lament tusk
#

The surprise twist

weary lagoon
#

song of time already?

weary lagoon
#

00:56 on dampe today

lament tusk
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oof, bad time

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01:00 or bust

weary lagoon
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@fresh hill I need this to progress

lament tusk
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can confirm, that is a crucial item

fresh hill
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yep, I mentioned finding that first session, I just didn't have the money for it that day

lament tusk
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cant belive im friends with someone who's poor
smh

weary lagoon
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you didnt say whose sword you found

fresh hill
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oh right that's one of the OoT weapons so it's the only one I need to specify player

fierce vale
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paissapretty i need either 12 crystal hearts or the level 8 completion to win now

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@midnight depot can you grab this for me

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its only

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a short hike away

midnight depot
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I don't know

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I might need some gold and silver feathers to reach

fierce vale
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salute i shall be sensible and not use a hint on level 3 b-side completion and wait

midnight depot
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Here you go

lament tusk
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another strength for flitter

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my game made you big and strong

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thats a high-fish diet for you

midnight depot
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Thanks. Here's a mobile vehicle bay in return

lament tusk
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im on 2/3 of those

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but thanks still

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ooh thats all my seamoth fragments! just need the last mobile vehicle bay fragment now

midnight depot
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All done for now (won't release.)

fresh hill
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wait a sec

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thorn_shuffle: local_only

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how did you find my Thorn Upgrade in your world?

midnight depot
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Artiks items:
Forest temple boss key
Ruto's letter

midnight depot
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Let me check the spoiler log

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No, definitely local only

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Maybe it's a bug because you set them to be local only and also under your local items?

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Ixrec items:
Silent Running Mode
Mea Culpa Upgrade
Combo Skill
Golden Thimble
Thorn Upgrade (???)

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Chip Items:
Defender's Crest
Left Mantis Claw
Two stags

fierce vale
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PepeHands first completion has been stolen from me /s

midnight depot
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Kratta items:
Spirit Temple Small Key
Bow
Gerudo Training Ground Small Key

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Here's the YAML in case you want to use it in the bug report:

#
Game:                            Blasphemous
Progression Balancing:           50
Accessibility:                   Items
Local Items:                     Thorn Upgrade
Not Local Items:                 
Start Inventory from Pool:       
Start Hints:                     
Start Location Hints:            
Excluded Locations:              Albero: Donate 50000 Tears, AtTotS: Miriam's gift, Ossuary: 11th reward, TSC: Jocinero's final reward
Priority Locations:              AR: Crisanta of the Wrapped Agony, CoOLotCV: Our Lady of the Charred Visage, Defeat 1 Amanecida, Defeat 2 Amanecidas, GA: Tres Angustias, MD: Ten Piedad, MaH: Sierpes, MoM: Melquiades, The Exhumed Archbishop, Ossuary: Isidora, Voice of the Dead, TSC: Exposito, Scion of Abjuration, WotHP: Quirce, Returned By The Flames
Item Links:                      
Unlock Fast Travel:              Yes
Auto Skip Cutscenes:             Yes
Corpse Hints:                    Yes
Difficulty:                      Normal
Penitence:                       No
Starting Location:               Albero
Ending:                          Any Ending
Skip Long Quests:                Yes
Shuffle Thorn:                   Local Only
Shuffle Dash:                    No
Shuffle Wall Climb:              Yes
Shuffle Penitence Rewards:       Yes
Boots of Pleading:               No
Purified Hand of the Nun:        No
Start with Wheel:                No
Skill Randomizer:                Yes
Enemy Randomizer:                Shuffled
Enemy Groups:                    Yes
Enemy Scaling:                   Yes
Death Link:                      No```
fresh hill
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I'm gonna double-check the Blasphemous map and see if there's something more interesting I can do besides grind money

midnight depot
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The game gives you enough money to buy everything without grinding so that's sane

fresh hill
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yep I can buy the sword immediately after connecting to AP

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@weary lagoon

midnight depot
#

Hell yeah

#

He did not need to hint for it after all

fresh hill
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hm... I'll do a bit of Cistern, pretty sure there's a place in there where I can redeem this empty flask

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lens of truth, nice

#

that was worth multiple attempts at the barely in range cherub

#

that sounds important

midnight depot
#

Hell yeah

fresh hill
#

Mega, is the Thermal Plant important?

lament tusk
#

yes and no

#

its not urgent

#

not neccesary but useful

#

if anyone finds my compass that'd be super helpful

wet field
#

Best I can do is a cyclops decoy tube upgrade, after I get all the wallets

lament tusk
#

that is 100% useless.

#

literally never used a decoy launcher in this game, its just not needed

wet field
#

Yeah I never used it either

fresh hill
#

ftr, that hint I just used was primarily to test this in-game inventory code that someone's contributing, no pressure

wet field
#

Oh that's cool

#

Blasphemous seems like it would appeal to me a lot more than hollow knight

fresh hill
#

oh?

midnight depot
#

But Hollow Knight

wet field
#

Yeah it looks sick, I just haven't loved a metroidvania since I was a kid

midnight depot
#

OoT

wet field
#

Maybe that'll be the one

midnight depot
#

Blasphemous is a pretty fun soulslike

wet field
#

I stopped playing hollow knight, but I think it might've been more because of the setting/vibe than the actual gameplay. Like it was good, but it didn't grip me enough to keep playing

fresh hill
#

Blasphemous certainly goes all-in on its vibe

wet field
#

Yeah all the screenshots you've been sending look awesome

midnight depot
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I stopped playing Hollow Knight after a few hours

#

Then came back to it years later and liked it

wet field
#

That might be what happens to me, more or less

#

It's just been sitting in my library

midnight depot
#

#1096278752142577684 message

#

Monster Sanctuary archipelago is now feature complete

fierce vale
#

neat

weary lagoon
#

That must mean OOTMM is next in line

lament tusk
#

these are the things currently blocking me @weary lagoon and @wet field
these will unlock like 40% of the game

wet field
#

Oh dang I forgot I had cow shuffle on!

wet field
#

okay I need to stop getting distracted by all the rainbow dashing and play some oot

midnight depot
#

Just because we already have one game of eleven done doesn't mean you have to keep up the pace

wet field
#

holy shit damn you already beat ASH

#

guess the title wasn't misleading

midnight depot
#

I did use baby's first settings

wet field
#

holy moley I got a ton of important items

#

uh oh, tracker of time didn't save any of the ER information

#

is that normal?

midnight depot
#

Yes

wet field
#

I see starlightisee

midnight depot
#

Just restart the game and start the tracker from the spawn screen

#

This will allow it to read entrances from the game's memory

shy oyster
wet field
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ocarina, hover boots, hookshot, zelda's lullaby, light arrows, din's fire, epona's song, song of time (I think? idk I wasn't paying attention to what songs I had b/c I couldn't play them w/o the ocarina)

shy oyster
#

that's epic

#

do you have a sword yet

wet field
#

no

midnight depot
#

Kokiri sword is for losers anyway

#

Sticks deal as much damage as the master sword

#

And you can infinite sword glitch them

wet field
midnight depot
#

Minimap

wet field
midnight depot
#

Yeah that's broken

#

Maybe if you leave it'll correct itself?

#

Is the tracker actually started? What if you reset it?

wet field
#

yeah it's started

midnight depot
#

How odd

#

How did you get the minimap for an area you weren't at?

wet field
#

That was the minimap for desert colossus, which is where I was before I restarted the game as well as the tracker

midnight depot
#

I see

#

I don't remember how to actually get the tracker into a state where it properly detects exits again

#

But that's a big part of the reason I recommended writing them down

wet field
#

It's really obnoxious because now the tracker won't accurately tell me which checks I can get unless I re-explore all the entrances I can

#

maybe I should just try a different tracker

midnight depot
#

They do! Both sticks and the master sword deal 2 damage

shy oyster
#

how much does the biggoron sword do

wet field
#

3?

midnight depot
#

4, I think

shy oyster
#

whoa !

wet field
#

oh wow tracker of time is written in visual basic

midnight depot
#

It's the best

wet field
#

It turns out that you don't need an empty bottle to get the cow checks! Enjoy your laser cutter fragment, mega

lament tusk
#

yay

midnight depot
#

Hi

#

Let's do some hiking and clear out the low hanging fruit

#

Thank you for the silver feather, fishing rod

lament tusk
#

No
Get the hard stuff

midnight depot
#

I have four silver feathers

#

There's nothing hard left

#

The game is intended to be done with just two

#

My Kokiri sword. Thanks, me!

#

Stone of Agony for Artiks

weary lagoon
#

YESSSS

fierce vale
#

CoolCat grub list

midnight depot
#

Both would be neat

weary lagoon
#

I will ping you when I need the recovery heart

fierce vale
#

TsuPeaceSign you know it bestie

#

paissapretty 10% completion ish good enough for now

weary lagoon
#

thanks for rutos letter such a powerful item

#

Pale ore Pog

#

King Dodongo had the all powerful Weaversong

#

I forgot to check my win condition at temple of time but I guess I reached it

midnight depot
#

Weaversong is so good

fierce vale
#

rdsnrk i got one of my 3 dreamers from the first shop i checked so i think thats just a theme of this rando

weary lagoon
#

Rainbow Bridge

#

my longshot is in the shadow temple

#

I cant get anything in there without the regular hookshot so someone else has that

fierce vale
#

paissapretty perfect time for a hint then bestie

weary lagoon
#

no I hinted biggoron sword

fierce vale
#

you've almost got your second one

#

you need like, 5 more items

fierce vale
#

lets gooo

weary lagoon
wet field
fresh hill
#

one of my big goals for the next mod update is to replace all those Nothings with "real" useful/filler/trap items rdsnrk

lament tusk
#

Can you make it so the cycle instantly ends? That could be a terrible trap item, don't add that

weary lagoon
#

@fresh hillI need this.

fierce vale
#

add that and nothing else to replace nothings actually

wet field
#

Make a trap item that's actual malware. For immersion.

#

Start encrypting random files and only reveal the key after goal completion

lament tusk
#

Lol

fresh hill
#

because of course Phar would do that

wet field
#

Lol what is that?

fresh hill
#

https://discord.com/channels/731205301247803413/1092478908022136876

Phar — 04/03/2023 5:01 PM
Showcased as a meta-game for Archipelago sessions in [...]. Players must work together to mine enough "Pharcoins"--the crypto currency of choice--to pay the ransomware that has encrypted a large chunk of the multiworld's items before time runs out.

Inspired by ransomware attacks in the 2000s, session hosts can add a single Pharcryption game to the multiworld to change the stakes of any sync or async game. All items that are encrypted are hinted out immediately so players know where they are and how much it will cost to decrypt.

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ok I'm done with work stuff so let's play the goat game

#

...I forgot I left death link on

lament tusk
#

Oh no

fresh hill
#

not that it does anything if I'm the only one

#

how badly do I want to try this

midnight depot
#

You can turn death link after the fact

#

on and off*

fresh hill
#

that was the most scuffed rafters ever but I got it

#

the attempt where I finally grabbed the ledge wasn't even one with a proper ultra ppenk

wet field
#

You would not want to share death link with me on this run. I probably died less often in ds3 so far

fresh hill
#

oh god Celeste would awful for DL

fierce vale
#

paissapretty i'll make sure to turn it on for my next celeste run

fresh hill
#

someday I will get Arti's item but first I need all the yellow squares

midnight depot
#

You can turn it on for this celeste run

fresh hill
#

that sounds useful

#

fortunately underbelley escape ends in the bailey so not too much longer

midnight depot
#

I already have a slingshot, I think, but more ammo is nice

fierce vale
#

UraWheeze all my remaining levels are b or c sides, along with the core, thats going to be not fun for whoever is playing at the same time as me

fresh hill
#

@weary lagoon

#

no clue why that's a red square on the tracker

#

ok, that's all the easy intro checks for a PR run, plus the yellows in dungeon

#

which already puts me at 23% apparently so definitely stopping there

lament tusk
#

oh laser cutter and mobile bay, nice, thanks guys
and large rooms?

fresh hill
#

are you only allowed to make tiny rooms at the start?

lament tusk
#

you can only make corridoors at the start

#

this is what you can make at the start:

#

you need multi purpose rooms (the big circular rooms) to build any of the bigger items like niclear generators or water purifacation things

fresh hill
lament tusk
#

the large room was added in below zero and retroactively patched into this game, and its basically a multi purpose room but 3x the size

#

best dialogue in the game hands down

#

previous workspace/new workspace
lockers for scale

wet field
#

Holy shit that's a large room

lament tusk
#

its so big they give you walls and doors

#

and your exclamation is why im surprised this is the second time i got it before the multipurpose room, which is about 1/4th the size

#

might even be smaller actually

fresh hill
#

makes you wonder if the AP should do "Progressive Room"

lament tusk
#

actually i think i have to agree

#

the large room is completely unnecessary, but it is a billion times more convenient

midnight depot
#

Time to play Rogue Legacy for an hour

lament tusk
#

why an hour and not, say, an hour ans 2.5 seconds?

midnight depot
#

I need 2.5 seconds to take a sip of my tea

lament tusk
#

makes sense

#

gah
the next wreck i need to go to has a reaper leviathan hanging out on top of it

#

im... gonna skip that one for now
til i can get a depth module for my seamoth

#

me, idling looking at my map planning next move: hmm
outside: thump
me: eh?
outside: reaper leviathan right outside the window
me: FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

#

this game
i swear
every time i play it does something like that

midnight depot
#

Elegant key for Chip

fresh hill
#

I found the Love Key the other day

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was there a third non-simple Key?

lament tusk
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yeah, its called the non-simple key

midnight depot
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Glowing womb, left eye of the traitor

lament tusk
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grats!

wet field
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I wish we could have creature randomization in subnautica, but I don't think it's super technically feasible without a great deal of effort

midnight depot
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Why do you think so?

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What if we just shuffle the locations of each creature?

wet field
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The leviathans have specific pathing

midnight depot
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Oh I see.

wet field
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It could probably be done, but it'd be a whole thing

midnight depot
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Probably need to make specific "slots" for leviathans, and shuffle leviathans between them, with unique paths for each

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But we can just shuffle other creatures

wet field
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The best part would be not knowing where the leviathans are, though

midnight depot
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Well you should have said leviathan randomization then

wet field
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Oh I skimmed over the part where you mentioned custom pathing

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Yeah you'd have to come up with new leviathan "slots" with new pathing and all that. It'd be super cool

midnight depot
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We can split the work

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I'll just do the easy parts and you do the leviathans

wet field
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ppenk awesome

lament tusk
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uh

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the problem is that some creatures are vastly different sizes to others

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some physically wont fit in the locations of others, and some would be tiny

wet field
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Yeah that's why you'd need to come up with new locations and new pathing

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Makin ur own subnautica 3 kinda

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Because if you just swapped the leviathans around with each other that'd be boring

midnight depot
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Right, the technical part is relatively easy. The majority of required work is in the design

wet field
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Pretty much the only problem I have with subnautica is that once you already know how everything's laid out, the immersion gets broken. My first playthrough was one of my favorite experiences in gaming but I just feel no need to do another playthrough

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I'd love to see more unpredictability in a sequel

midnight depot
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Pretty much my only problem with Subnautica is it kinda sucks

wet field
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Tbf they laid out everything very very well

midnight depot
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Yeah I guess I just don't like underwater stuff

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(Oceanblock in Minecraft was great though)

wet field
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And deep underwater stuff is one my all time favorite settings!

lament tusk
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there are advantages and disadvantages to the system
a hand-crafted, stable, map means you can carefully tailor the experience to allow for a story you want to tell, but procedural generation means you can randomize things and change it up, making it more replayable
i like subnauticas system, its already hard enough navigating the map without randomnes involved, i wouldnt be doing this rando without the map mod

midnight depot
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Oceanblock had a map mode where you start in an underwater glass dome and it is insanely cool

wet field
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I'd like a middle ground

lament tusk
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id say that maybe they could randomize the location of the wrecks, but then at the same time the locations are kina important, make the early stuff to far away you have a brick wall of progress or the late stuff close and you have gameplay breaking items right away

fresh hill
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Tunic and Outer Wilds are the "would forget and replay from scratch if I could" games for me, I don't usually hear Subnautica get mentioned for that which is interesting

lament tusk
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then theres the fact that the map is actually super cool and filled with neat geological things

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which you only really explore because theres stuff near them

wet field
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Yeah I think it's fine to have static wrecks and geological stuff

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I just would want to avoid the "I don't have to worry about going through this area because I already know where the creatures are gonna be" feeling

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I want to always feel like something's gonna get me

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Or at least within reason

midnight depot
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Subnautica fart mod. Adds randomized extra buoyancy for a random amount of time after eating

fresh hill
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this is why I like to try enemy rando whenever an AP game has the option

fresh hill
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I think Blasphemous and Tunic are the only games I play which have it, and they both did it pretty well

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(Tunic's had one issue but they've fixed it already)

midnight depot
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Hollow Knight has it

fresh hill
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weird that I don't remember that

midnight depot
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It's not part of archipelago but a separate mod

fresh hill
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oooh

wet field
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It's not AP'ed, but dark souls 1 enemy/boss rando is horrifying and fun

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It'd be legit scared to do that in an AP game

midnight depot
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Instead of randomizing enemies

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Just make them all black knights

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Dark Souls 1 condensed parry course.

lament tusk
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oooh i get it now
theres a little indicator tellimg me what checks i can get, what they're calld and how far away they are
but it goes away when i've run out of available checks
thats super neat, i thought it would just tell me the nearest check
i now know im in BK mode

wet field
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Become the parry lord...

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I think ds3 enemy rando would be great, but boss rando would probably suck because it's a more linear level-to-level progression than ds1 so you might just hit a wall and get sad

midnight depot
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That's what a soul level 1 run is for

wet field
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Sl1 is at least guaranteed to be a certain level of difficult

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You'll be doing bad damage but it won't be abysmal

midnight depot
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I mean that it'll teach you how to deal with every boss's moveset

wet field
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It does do that

lament tusk
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ok so items i need to progress:
radiation suit
moonpool fragments x3
cyclops bridge, engine and helm fragments x3 of each
reinforced dive suit
uh
i think thats it, atleast for the next chunk of the game. with that i get the lost river, inactive lava zone and full lava zone
after that ill need to develop the cure and disable the gun but neither of those things require anything other than what was said earlier

oh i do need the prawn suit and drill arm for kyanite for the spaceship
oh and the spaceship fragments
but thats the last part of the game
i only need a very limited amount of things to finish, but theres a lot of checks to get when im there

wet field
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The cyclops and prawn suit are so cool

lament tusk
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honestly i thought the prawn suit was a really clunky machine

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they should have just let you do everything with the seamoth instead tbh

wet field
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You get to be spida man

lament tusk
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thats like the only thing it does better than the seamoth

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atleast that they couldnt have just added to it easilly

wet field
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I like that you need to use more cumbersome equipment at lower depths

lament tusk
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add a drill to the seamoth, give it a depth module up to -1700m and then it can completely replace the prawnsuit

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the only thing the prawn suit can do is drill in a non-ocean environment
which is a completely artificial problem

wet field
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I wish I could be one of those scientists that gets to see like the bottom of the Mariana trench in a submersible

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That shit is so cool

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I love how it's so deep that there isn't even any light at all

lament tusk
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sure i know a company
they're making thir sub out of a lightweight material called... carbun fiber? dont know why they're building it in a car, not why bunnies are involved

midnight depot
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/r/im13kilometersdownandthisisdeep

wet field
midnight depot
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Random Number Generation (RNG) is a GDQ Hotfix show about randomizers and their communities that takes place every other Tuesday. This show includes a unique feature where the host (Skybilz) relays questions between the runners and twitch chat to provide an interactive experience for everyone.This episode aired January 24th, 2023.

Introductio...

▶ Play video
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This video makes me want to run the game in archipelago

midnight depot
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Signalscope for Ixrec

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Shadow temple boss key for kratta

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Chip pass for Tram

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Minuet of Forest to me.

midnight depot
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Iron boots for me, silvered long of dolphos for Ixrec, water temple small key for Kratta.

fresh hill
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nice, with the lung my next session should probably be do just enough of Mercy to reach Cistern and then basically all of Cistern

midnight depot
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Hello. Time to play Ocarina of Time

weary lagoon
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Watch out for peahats

midnight depot
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They can't hurt me because I don't remember what they are

wet field
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I think they're the propeller guys

weary lagoon
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they fly out of the ground and rotate

wet field
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They can't hurt me because I'm too fast

midnight depot
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Oh I hate those guys but I learned to just avoid them

weary lagoon
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In Majoras Mask you actually have to kill one for a heart piece instead of just completely ignoring them

wet field
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Extremely common MM dub

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They're a badass enemy but they're too hard to just have them to fight for no reason

weary lagoon
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Kratta do you want to join the next ootmm multiworld (the greatest randomizer ever made)

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(also 50 hours long)

wet field
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I thought it wasn't ready yet?

midnight depot
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The standalone is playable

weary lagoon
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Not on archipelago but we have played OOTMM multiworld outside of archi before

midnight depot
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Took us a month and a half to complete because it lacks progression balancing.

wet field
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Ah... Yeah that sounds cool

weary lagoon
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Took us a month and a half because I was the only one who knew the game out of 4 people..

midnight depot
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True!

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I'm up for another one, by the way

wet field
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I uh, knew the game trixienervous

weary lagoon
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next time we run dungeon randomizer its so fun to enter deku tree and end up in stone tower inverted

wet field
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When I was little I could 100% that one and alttp by memory

midnight depot
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Thanks for shadow temple boss key, farore's wind, ruto's letter, magic, 200 wallet, zora tunic, strength, bomb bag, bottom of the well key ring, big poe in a bottle, kokiri sword, water temple compass, epona's song, 500 wallet, stone of agony, water temple map, spirit temple compass, forest temple boss key, bolero of fire, strength again, song of time, minuet of forest, iron boots, and killing me with ice traps

weary lagoon
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are you playing with big ice traps on

midnight depot
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I have them set to replace all junk items

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spirit temple small key for Kratta

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Where the fuck is my ocarina? I want to be a real man

lament tusk
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there were a few issues ill grant

weary lagoon
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Thats true you were pretty familiar

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Flitter and Chip were brand new gamers

midnight depot
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Cling Gem to Ixrec

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I was really clingy as a teen

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Why are stat ups considered progression for rogue legacy?

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They are literally junk

lament tusk
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sounds like a stat issue

midnight depot
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That's what I'm saying

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Just beat the game without them

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Deku shield for artiks

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golden feather for me!

weary lagoon
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yesssssssssssss

wet field
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Must be nice ysmoke

midnight depot
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You know you can buy those from shops

weary lagoon
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its also only needed for 1 thing

lament tusk
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they are useful tho
and annoying when you dont have one

weary lagoon
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but you look cool with no shield equipped

midnight depot
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And if you have no shield you can't lose your shield

lament tusk
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oh the rando lets you unequip them now, right?

midnight depot
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The standalone one

lament tusk
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damn

midnight depot
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Archipelago has not updated

weary lagoon
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I dont think its in OOT rando just OOTMM

wet field
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I burned my shield because I rolled into a crate

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It was not a crate idea!

midnight depot
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I wish I had just a little bit more magic so I can do all of deku tree with Din's fire

weary lagoon
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How did rolling into a crate burn your shield

midnight depot
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I had to swap to a stick. How horrid

lament tusk
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eww sticks

midnight depot
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Queen Gohma is herself.

weary lagoon
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Where did you find your deku tree

wet field
weary lagoon
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im looking for mine

midnight depot
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My deku tree was my deku tree

lament tusk
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im still BK

wet field
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I'm so not in BK

weary lagoon
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sounds like youre playing vanilla by mistake

midnight depot
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I have it set up to randomize many settings, including entrance randomizer

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But I don't think I have it set to turn it off entirely

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I paid ten rupees to fish and my reward was five

lament tusk
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stonks

midnight depot
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Pale ore for chip

weary lagoon
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WOOOHOOO

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I gave him one too

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hes gonna be so powerful

midnight depot
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The zora lake owl takes me to graveyard warp pad

weary lagoon
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nice you can go into shadow

midnight depot
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Fittingly, shadow temple is bottom of the well

weary lagoon
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do you have all loading zones randoed

midnight depot
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No.

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I have warps randomized and dungeons randomized, but overworld left as is

weary lagoon
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so owl counts as a warp

midnight depot
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Yep!

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Major key for Ixrec

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What the fuck is Chert's signal?

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I need 30 skulltula tokens for it

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Egg of deformity for Ixrec

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My Ocarina is in Listless Library Sun Greaves 3

fresh hill
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with the upgrades everyone's found that'll be effortless

midnight depot
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Wonderful

fresh hill
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let's just get it out of the way right now

midnight depot
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It's the only thing blocking me from aging up

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Requiem of Spirit for Kratta

fresh hill
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hype room was hype

midnight depot
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Aaah! You made me drop my chicken

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Thanks anyway. That was nice

weary lagoon
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if I carried the chicken all the way up zoras river and then someone sent me an item I would have quit the game

lament tusk
midnight depot
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Same but I was only halfway up

fresh hill
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you could always tell us to avoid items for a minute lol

midnight depot
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What am I going to do, tell you not to get me my ocarina after I pinged you to do it?

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I was just hoping I would be faster than you

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My Mask of Truth has Nayru's Love for Kratta

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Golden feather for me!

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Zora shop contents:
Nothing.

weary lagoon
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for ixrec

midnight depot
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No just nothing

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Jabu Jabu is Jabu Jabu.

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Hint: Claim check for me yields a heart piece for Kratta

weary lagoon
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i also had jabu jabu in jabu jabu

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we should be friends

midnight depot
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We are

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Hint: Ganon's Castle is Ganon's Castle

weary lagoon
fresh hill
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I like how the small rupees in Twilight Princess have a message like "You got 1 rupee! You're... slightly happy? I guess?"

midnight depot
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Hint: Kratta's small key is deep in the wasteland

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Dampe time is 56 seconds.

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I wonder why it's so much slower than usual

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Kakariko Shops content: Kratta's shadow temple small key 615

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Chip's left crystal heart

weary lagoon
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56 seconds doesnt sound slower than normal

midnight depot
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I'm pretty sure I usually get 51-53

weary lagoon
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no shot

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56 is a good run

midnight depot
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Oh yeah last time I got 58

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Maybe the shorter time is with bunny ears (in ootmm)