Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer | Manechat | Page 23

fierce vale Dec 9, 2023, 9:02 PM

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bro...

weary lagoon Dec 9, 2023, 9:24 PM

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aaah

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no lullaby stopping me in water too

weary lagoon Dec 9, 2023, 10:09 PM

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Doing Volvagia without biggoron is so booring lol

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Thats enough Zelda for now

midnight depot Dec 9, 2023, 10:13 PM

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True

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Unless you do it via the bomb method

midnight depot Dec 9, 2023, 10:57 PM

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Hello

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Time to play OoT. Thank you for Din's Fire, Requiem of Spirit, Epona's Song, Blue Fire, Ganon Castle Small Keys, Claim Check, Big Poe in a bottle, Thieves Hideout small key, Wallet(!)

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Requim of Spirit takes me to death mountain crater

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Just what I needed to beat Barinade

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With my big wallet I can buy this https://i.imgur.com/Pj7Uouo.png

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weary lagoon Dec 9, 2023, 11:06 PM

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yesss

wet field Dec 9, 2023, 11:07 PM

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hell yeah

weary lagoon Dec 9, 2023, 11:07 PM

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i will get your megaton hammer tomorrow

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I got song of storms but there was so much to do

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I will need shadow boss key and lullaby to get your ganon boss key though

midnight depot Dec 9, 2023, 11:11 PM

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Yeah

midnight depot Dec 9, 2023, 11:35 PM

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Strength for Artiks OoT

midnight depot Dec 10, 2023, 12:10 AM

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Ah, Kratta is playing. Thanks for Deku nuts

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Unbreakable greed for chip!

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Bongo Bongo is Twinrova

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Twinrova had a gold questagon

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Next I need my iron boots

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Then I can do everything in Water temple https://i.imgur.com/9AXcoJa.png

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For now I'm done

weary lagoon Dec 10, 2023, 9:00 AM

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In hollow knight is fragile and unbreakable charm progressive or can you get either one

midnight depot Dec 10, 2023, 9:03 AM

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Progressive

weary lagoon Dec 10, 2023, 5:34 PM

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FS_woohoo

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Megaton hammer acquired

midnight depot Dec 10, 2023, 5:38 PM

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Wonderful, thanks!

wet field Dec 11, 2023, 12:21 AM

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@fierce vale I killed Aldrich

fierce vale Dec 11, 2023, 12:21 AM

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awwyeah ty bestie, i'll get my victory tommorow, PL_lunateehee idk if you saw i also need dragonchaser ashes from you

wet field Dec 11, 2023, 12:22 AM

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yeah I saw

wet field Dec 11, 2023, 12:38 AM

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@midnight depot

midnight depot Dec 11, 2023, 12:52 AM

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Need to finish more dungeons to get that

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I'll be able to do so with the help of my iron boots

midnight depot Dec 11, 2023, 3:48 AM

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Hello, time for OoT

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Double defense! Weird Egg! Megaton Hammer! Fire Temple Boss Key!

fresh hill Dec 11, 2023, 3:57 AM

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egg

midnight depot Dec 11, 2023, 4:07 AM

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What a surprise

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Zelda had

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Zelda's letter!

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Hiveblood for chip

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Malon had the Kingfragment for Chip

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Saria had Aldrich's cinders

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I forgot that I made every song a priority check

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I probably shouldn't have made three of them reliant on the weird egg

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Then again, this is probably the randomizer deciding it wants these items late, so splitting them up wouldn't help

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Volvagia is morpha

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???

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Who had a bait bag for Artiks

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Basin of vows for @wet field

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[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Iron Boots is at The Pit (MAP09) - Blue keycard in FlitterDoom's World. (not found) @midnight depot

midnight depot Dec 11, 2023, 4:44 AM

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midnight depot `[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Iron Boots is at The Pit (MAP09) - Blue keycard in Flitter...

Okay, I'll get right on it.

midnight depot Dec 11, 2023, 5:10 AM

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Undead bone shard, flask shard for Tunic, treasure chart, lothric prince cinders, triforce chart, dragon tooth.

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Doom's full of stuff today

midnight depot Dec 11, 2023, 5:26 AM

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Okay, Doom is in BK mode

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Here's what I need:
Icon of Sin, The Chasm, Barrels' O' Fun, Downtown, The Pit

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And keys for Underhalls, the Gantlet, The Focus, The Crusher, Tricks and Traps, The Pit, Downtown, The Citadel,

weary lagoon Dec 11, 2023, 11:49 AM

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midnight depot Who had a bait bag for Artiks

Nooo...

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The bait bag checks are so bad

midnight depot Dec 11, 2023, 11:49 AM

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You should have excluded them

weary lagoon Dec 11, 2023, 11:49 AM

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Nah thats cheating

midnight depot Dec 11, 2023, 11:49 AM

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You can do location hints to see if you have to do them

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Want me to look in the log and tell you which location names you can hint for?

weary lagoon Dec 11, 2023, 11:50 AM

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No I can see on the tracker website

midnight depot Dec 11, 2023, 11:50 AM

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Okay, great

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Good luck

weary lagoon Dec 11, 2023, 6:15 PM

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Im gonna play some Zelda!

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this is classified as a junk/normal item?

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it goes with your main items lol

weary lagoon Dec 11, 2023, 7:00 PM

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@midnight depot @fierce vale these are the last 3 heart pieces I need to get ganons key

fierce vale Dec 11, 2023, 7:03 PM

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i believe i can get my one, i think i saw flitter get me the prereq

weary lagoon Dec 11, 2023, 7:16 PM

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thanks!

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two to go

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you beat the boss fast

fierce vale Dec 11, 2023, 7:20 PM

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paissapretty

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the first tier boss is like, crazy squishy if you have all the upgrades

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i'm prob gonna do the others

fresh hill Dec 11, 2023, 7:21 PM

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what emotion is implied by :paissapretty:

midnight depot Dec 11, 2023, 7:25 PM

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Market night has different crates?!

weary lagoon Dec 11, 2023, 7:28 PM

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im getting hits for Wind Waker in OoT now

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you need this?

midnight depot Dec 11, 2023, 7:31 PM

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No clue. I will investigate

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Sometimes I need keycards, sometimes they're just more convenient. Sometimes there are skips

fierce vale Dec 11, 2023, 7:33 PM

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fresh hill what emotion is implied by :paissapretty:

the fact i am pretty and that there are no thoughts bar victory going through my head paissapretty

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rdsnrk i can't actually do ||radiance|| in hollow knight yet, i dont have descending dark or or shadow dash yet UraWheeze

weary lagoon Dec 11, 2023, 7:35 PM

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I got it anyway

midnight depot Dec 11, 2023, 7:36 PM

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Nice

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Do you need descending dark and shadow dash to fight the radiance?

fierce vale Dec 11, 2023, 7:38 PM

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i dont think you need it, but you need it to dodge the sweeping lasers

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so it would be very rng if not

midnight depot Dec 11, 2023, 7:38 PM

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You can probably cheese the fight with the mod relics

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Er, mod charms

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Have you been selling your relics or keeping them?

fierce vale Dec 11, 2023, 7:38 PM

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rdsnrk i didn't actually find that many, i've been keeping my relics and have that charm

midnight depot Dec 11, 2023, 7:38 PM

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One charm gives you +1 damage for each relic you have

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Yeah

fierce vale Dec 11, 2023, 7:39 PM

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it does a lot still

midnight depot Dec 11, 2023, 7:39 PM

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And another triples your damage until you take your first hit

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Combine those with unbreakable strength and you're doing good damage

fierce vale Dec 11, 2023, 7:39 PM

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rdsnrk oh i do have that one as well, time to just one shot that boss

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~~or not atm~~

midnight depot Dec 11, 2023, 7:40 PM

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It's still tricky because taking one hit basically kills your damage. Do you have the low gravity charm?

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I think the mod charms are still not randomized, so you can find them all in the default locations

fierce vale Dec 11, 2023, 7:43 PM

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i dont, i have 4? i think, a crystal one, the hive howling yell, and the two prior mentioned

weary lagoon Dec 11, 2023, 7:44 PM

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ive finally run out of OoT checks

midnight depot Dec 11, 2023, 7:44 PM

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Want me to tell you where they are?

fierce vale Dec 11, 2023, 7:47 PM

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nah, i'm sure i can go look them up if i want them, i have more exploring to do once i acquire the lantern anyway

midnight depot Dec 11, 2023, 7:47 PM

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Excellent

weary lagoon Dec 11, 2023, 7:55 PM

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Flitter what are you missing for my final sword upgrade

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Gerudo Training Ground Heavy Block First Chest

midnight depot Dec 11, 2023, 7:59 PM

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Keys

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Oh wait

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Heavy block

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I can get that, I just forgot

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I think the tracker is not showing me these checks for some reason

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So whenever I look for checks to do I don't see them

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But I am confident I can get them now

midnight depot Dec 11, 2023, 9:32 PM

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Hi. Time to get Artiks's stuff

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Here's Artiks's heart piece

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Where was my gerudo training ground again?

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Here's your sword

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I also noticed I have the keys

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My tracker, however, fails to see that I have access to GTG

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Gathering Swarm for @fierce vale

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I think in the future we should just start runs with Gathering Swarm because it's such a big quality of life charm but the randomizer tends to put it in the end

fierce vale Dec 11, 2023, 9:44 PM

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most geo doesn't really get gathered so Gwen_shrug

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i'd be be more likely to start with like, dreamgate or somet

midnight depot Dec 11, 2023, 9:46 PM

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Okay

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Oh yeah I should be able to beat Bongo Bongo now

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This entrance AND boss randomizer is throwing me for a loop

midnight depot Dec 11, 2023, 10:07 PM

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Volvagia is dead

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Where the fuck is Bongo Bongo?

midnight depot Dec 11, 2023, 10:25 PM

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Bottom of the well key ring for @weary lagoon

weary lagoon Dec 11, 2023, 10:26 PM

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thank you.

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ive been so busy with oot I havent touched WW for almost 5 days it looks like

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I wonder how close it is to go mode

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we will see tomorrow

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this needs to be 8

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and 3

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so im missing 2 items

midnight depot Dec 11, 2023, 10:39 PM

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Where the fuck is my shadow temple?

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It's not in my notes

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Oh, it is forest temple. It was in my notes but I went there twice and did not enter it

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Wait, no

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Twinrova is in my shadow temple

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Where's Bongo Bongo?

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I'm so fucking lost

weary lagoon Dec 12, 2023, 10:06 AM

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just do !hint_location bongo bongo heart container ezz

midnight depot Dec 12, 2023, 3:30 PM

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Ran out of hints

lament tusk Dec 12, 2023, 4:06 PM

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just look at the spoiler log
ez

fierce vale Dec 12, 2023, 4:27 PM

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paissapretty just use some of mine bestie

midnight depot Dec 12, 2023, 6:56 PM

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It's not a blocker

midnight depot Dec 13, 2023, 12:31 PM

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Hello. Time to play doom

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Ugh, I have access to the chasm

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Such an annoying map

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What if instead of focusing on the game's weaknesses, id software made levels that play to the game's strengths?

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All done!

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And I got a couple of new checks in other levels

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I got quick slash for chip, yellow rupee for WW, Forever Friend, Hero Relic, Spring Falls for Ixrec,

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And delivery bag for WW

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Next, let's see if OoT has new checks

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Oh yeah, forest temple still has the boss to clear. I think that's where Bongo Bongo is

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But I need the key to get there

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Still in BK mode for OoT

fierce vale Dec 13, 2023, 12:59 PM

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paissapretty dw bestie, i bet the specific items you need are behind my lantern, i'll get that boss key as soon as i grab it

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~~and then release because thats my only blocker, im to eepy to go collect boss souls since im p sure they only have junk~~

ancient harness Dec 13, 2023, 1:46 PM

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The Chasm sucks such major ass

midnight depot Dec 13, 2023, 1:49 PM

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I'm glad you agree. What were they thinking?

weary lagoon Dec 14, 2023, 5:49 PM

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Lets play some Legend of Zelda

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Wind Waker offline for 168 hours oops.

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dolphin kinda struggling to run

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still no iron boots in WW hmm

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thanks for fully powering my master sword flitter

midnight depot Dec 14, 2023, 6:15 PM

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You're welcome

weary lagoon Dec 14, 2023, 6:21 PM

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Found my light arrows WW

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Just need two triforce pieces to beat the game

midnight depot Dec 16, 2023, 10:13 AM

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Hello!

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Time to play Ocarina of Time

weary lagoon Dec 16, 2023, 10:14 AM

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good luck

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ive had a very busy week

midnight depot Dec 16, 2023, 10:14 AM

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I understand completely

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My final exams start on the 20th and at the 27th I have a dental surgery scheduled, so I hope to finish my part before then, because I have no idea how much time I'll have after

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No new checks

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Time to go to Doom

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No new checks!

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We gotta do something about it

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Is anyone in the game able to get new checks?

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I see Ixrec and Kratta have not played for a while. Are you not playing because you're busy or because you're waiting on new items? Would you like help?

weary lagoon Dec 16, 2023, 10:41 AM

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I can

midnight depot Dec 16, 2023, 10:43 AM

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Oh yeah, you're having your break soon. Hope you have fun!

weary lagoon Dec 16, 2023, 10:47 AM

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I can get some checks tomorrow.

fresh hill Dec 16, 2023, 4:08 PM

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as far as I know my game's had the highest % since I last played, no one needs / hinted an item from it, and I'm not missing any key items

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in fact since my goal is 20 hexagons I think I'd "complete" it just by logging in and waiting a few minutes

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the only thing left that I might like to do is try to figure out where entrance rando put the usual final boss arena

midnight depot Dec 16, 2023, 4:09 PM

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I see

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You can do !remaining to see which items exactly remain in your world (but not where)

fresh hill Dec 16, 2023, 4:10 PM

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yep, also !hint_location if I just want to know where the arena is

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just haven't felt like it yet

midnight depot Dec 16, 2023, 4:12 PM

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In order for me to finish Ocarina of Time I need one more progressive strength upgrade, my iron boots and my ganon key

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And in order to finish Doom I need Barrels of Fun, Icon of Sin, Downtown, red key for the Citadel, red key for the gantlet, orange key for the focus, key for tricks and traps, and the pit.

fierce vale Dec 16, 2023, 4:57 PM

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i have some items behind lantern, i'd usually release at this point already but i was gonna wait for the kratta item

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i can release early if you want to see if its one of those though

midnight depot Dec 16, 2023, 4:59 PM

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I'll be fine

wet field Dec 16, 2023, 6:36 PM

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@midnight depot you have your rocket launcher now

midnight depot Dec 16, 2023, 6:59 PM

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Thank you!

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That's the last of my weapons. Very handy

weary lagoon Dec 17, 2023, 9:02 AM

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Good morning

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I'm gonna play the Legend of Zelda

midnight depot Dec 17, 2023, 9:03 AM

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Nice

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Which one?

weary lagoon Dec 17, 2023, 9:04 AM

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Ocarina of Time, it has a lot more checks available

midnight depot Dec 17, 2023, 9:06 AM

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Have fun. Do call out interesting checks for me because I'd love to play

weary lagoon Dec 17, 2023, 9:07 AM

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first check was your progressive strength upgrade

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lucky

midnight depot Dec 17, 2023, 9:11 AM

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Oh very good

weary lagoon Dec 17, 2023, 9:30 AM

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I got the spirit medallion!

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that unlocks rainbow bridge which ive narrowed down to being forest temple

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my biggoron sword!!

midnight depot Dec 17, 2023, 9:41 AM

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Excellent

weary lagoon Dec 17, 2023, 10:00 AM

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Ive done everything in OoT now except for Bongo Bongo and Ganon

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ill hint the boss key to speed this up

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@fierce vale

fierce vale Dec 17, 2023, 10:02 AM

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rdsnrk everything i have remaining requires the lantern from kratta

weary lagoon Dec 17, 2023, 10:04 AM

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Wind Waker needs iron boots and two triforce pieces

weary lagoon Dec 17, 2023, 11:08 AM

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Wallet for flitter

midnight depot Dec 17, 2023, 11:09 AM

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Thank you.

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That's my last wallet

weary lagoon Dec 17, 2023, 11:39 AM

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Key for Ixfox

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Thats everything in Wind Waker

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Big finds would be nayrus pearl to get 14 checks in tower of the gods

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or iron boots for 14 checks in wind temple, one of which is the last piece of heart for oot

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midnight depot Dec 17, 2023, 11:50 AM

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With the new wallet I should be able to get it

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But not for a few hours. I gotta go

midnight depot Dec 17, 2023, 2:30 PM

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Hi

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Time to play OoT

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Thank you for Minuet of Forest, Strength, deku stick, wallet.

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Golden feather for Artiks

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Iron boots for Artiks

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Nayru's love for Artiks, gold Questagon for Ixreg

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Let me in. Let me innnn!

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https://i.imgur.com/8RFV0Nr.png

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I need this from Artiks

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[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Boss Key (Ganons Castle) is at Shadow Temple Bongo Bongo Heart in ArtiOOT's World at Death Mountain -> Dodongos Cavern Beginning. (not found)

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The last check necessary to beat the game

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Claymore for Kratta. Classic weapon

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And that's everything for OoT until I have iron boots or ganon's boss key

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The doom key kratta sent me had another level behind it, which had my iron boots!

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I'll do the iron boots stuff later

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Doom is done for now

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I found descending dark and a treasure chart for Artiks

weary lagoon Dec 17, 2023, 4:16 PM

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midnight depot `[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Boss Key (Ganons Castle) is at Shadow Temple Bongo Bongo H...

I need chip to get the boss key

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chip needs kratta to find the lantern

midnight depot Dec 17, 2023, 4:17 PM

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And Kratta needs the goat and wolf and wheat to cross the river together

wet field Dec 17, 2023, 7:25 PM

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@fierce vale I got da lantern

fierce vale Dec 17, 2023, 7:26 PM

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🤘

wet field Dec 17, 2023, 7:49 PM

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30 deku seeds for killing Nameless King, ggwp

weary lagoon Dec 17, 2023, 7:50 PM

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they are really nice to have in forest temple

fierce vale Dec 17, 2023, 7:53 PM

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@fresh hill is mr mayor a useful thing, google just says its a secret treasure or secret treasure adjacent

fresh hill Dec 17, 2023, 8:00 PM

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in vanilla the secret treasures are just there to be rewards for post-game super-secrets, the randomizer turns many of them into extra stat boosts but that's all

fierce vale Dec 17, 2023, 8:05 PM

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paissapretty i got everyone their stuff, defeated radiance ~~without any of the extra charms to prove i could ~~and released since i cant be bothered to do absolute radiance

midnight depot Dec 17, 2023, 8:23 PM

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Good work

weary lagoon Dec 17, 2023, 8:23 PM

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you must expand your emoji library

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catrose throw in a few of these

midnight depot Dec 17, 2023, 8:30 PM

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I've been playing so much Crystal Project and it seems like such a perfect game for archipelago. Shame it's developed in XNA. Makes it hard to mod

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With it being an indie game I expected something fifteen hours long but so far it's taken me ninety hours and I expect about five to ten more

fierce vale Dec 17, 2023, 8:46 PM

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chip_ye

weary lagoon Dec 18, 2023, 2:24 PM

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Hello

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Let's play some Wind Waker

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With the power of the iron boots, nothing can stop me

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Looks like I still need two pieces of the triforce!

midnight depot Dec 18, 2023, 2:28 PM

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Good luck

weary lagoon Dec 18, 2023, 2:29 PM

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Wind Waker wind temple is definitely one of the least enjoyable 3d zelda dungeons

weary lagoon Dec 18, 2023, 3:38 PM

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Shade soul for chip!!

weary lagoon Dec 18, 2023, 4:02 PM

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Thats all for Wind Waker

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6 checks left in the game, which are treasure charts and below the sea

midnight depot Dec 18, 2023, 4:03 PM

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Good work!

midnight depot Dec 19, 2023, 8:25 AM

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Good evening

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My finals start tomorrow

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I'll get some OoT in

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I don't deal well with stress, so I'm going to keep playing a little even in the middle of them to help me stay calm.

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Iron boots, forest temple boss key, fire temple small key ring

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my 90th skulltula

midnight depot Dec 19, 2023, 8:50 AM

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Icon of sin!

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Siiiigh https://i.imgur.com/WxHnD66.png

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This plume of fire is too big so I can't actually cheese it by rolling into the fire and opening the chest on the first frame

midnight depot Dec 19, 2023, 9:56 AM

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That's fire temple cleared

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Ahh, Bongo Bongo is so easy once you have all his items

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Back to BK mode https://i.imgur.com/ebzXd92.png

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Doom has lots of checks!

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Thanks for finding me my stuff

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Dragon torso stone, prisoner chief's ashes, Heros Charm, Howling Wraiths, Aldrich's Sapphire, Barrels' Of Fun (ugh), treasure charts

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Rightslash, fire keeper soul

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right mothwing cloak

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Wild how all of these are locked at the end of the seed

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And that's the final level

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Now I need yellow key for the focus and that's 100% of doom

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https://i.imgur.com/MzZ9LrH.png

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[Hint]: FlitterDoom's The Focus (MAP04) - Yellow keycard is at SL: Izalith Pyromancy Tome in kratta's World. (not found)

weary lagoon Dec 19, 2023, 10:45 AM

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Did you find any triforce pieces

midnight depot Dec 19, 2023, 10:51 AM

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You mean triforce shard (WW)?

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No

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The last triforce shard in the log is [root at 2023-12-05 23:44:45,100]: (Team #1) ChipKnight sent Triforce Shard to ArtiWW (King's_Idol-Pale_Lurker)

weary lagoon Dec 19, 2023, 11:53 AM

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i need 2 more!

fresh hill Dec 19, 2023, 12:58 PM

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apparently I can't !hint_location my final boss since there are no items/locations in that area, only the boss itself

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could you check the spoiler log for "Heir Arena Exit"?

midnight depot Dec 19, 2023, 1:00 PM

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You want me to check what's there?

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Or where it is?

fresh hill Dec 19, 2023, 1:01 PM

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where it is

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it doesn't "have" anything, besides my boss fight

midnight depot Dec 19, 2023, 1:02 PM

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Ixfox: Library Exterior Tree <=> Heir Arena Exit

fresh hill Dec 19, 2023, 1:02 PM

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LOL

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that stupid tree

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ok could you go back one more? I never found library exterior

midnight depot Dec 19, 2023, 1:03 PM

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sure

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Ixfox: West Garden Laurels Exit <=> Library Exterior Ladder

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Does that sound correct?

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It doesn't have an entry for Library Exterior Tree but this is the only other Library Exterior entry

fresh hill Dec 19, 2023, 1:04 PM

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oooooh

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that makes sense, I indeed did not try that path

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and yes ladder is the other way to that area

midnight depot Dec 19, 2023, 1:05 PM

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Wonderful

fresh hill Dec 19, 2023, 1:05 PM

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"tree" is the exit, odd as that sounds

midnight depot Dec 19, 2023, 1:08 PM

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Oh yeah, here's the non-spoiler log if anyone's curious

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📎 message.txt

fresh hill Dec 19, 2023, 1:17 PM

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there you are, finally

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I'll not release as usual; if anyone discovers my world has an important item I should be able to !hint_location that even if I don't know the path already, goal completion was a unique case in that regard

weary lagoon Dec 21, 2023, 2:44 PM

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im gonna squeeze in my final OoT stuff before secret santa

fierce vale Dec 21, 2023, 2:46 PM

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lets gooo

weary lagoon Dec 21, 2023, 2:51 PM

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flitters boss key obtained

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aaand game complete PLUSULTRATHUMBSUP

midnight depot Dec 21, 2023, 3:23 PM

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I'm glad you got it

midnight depot Dec 21, 2023, 5:13 PM

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Time to play OoT

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Now Ganon's Castle is all the way in spirit temple but Spirit Temple is in Dodongo's Cavern

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So I'm going to go to Dodongo's Cavern and come out of the statue's hand and enter the castle so I don't need to traverse the desert yet another time

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Ahhh

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So much faster

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I should have thought of that two weeks ago

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The 90s era dramatic cutscenes are so fucking goofy I smile every time

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Done

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I still don't have Sun's song but I did release

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I knew I fucking missed some crates

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https://i.imgur.com/2EeqS4A.png

Imgur

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I will not be doing crates next time

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FlitterDoom's The Focus (MAP04) - Yellow keycard is at SL: Izalith Pyromancy Tome in kratta's World. (not found) @wet field

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The very last item I need

wet field Dec 21, 2023, 5:44 PM

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That'll be easy

midnight depot Dec 21, 2023, 5:45 PM

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Excellent

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What do you need to finish the game?

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Let me remember. SL is uh

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Smouldering Lake

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God that area is annoying but also so fun to traverse

wet field Dec 21, 2023, 5:47 PM

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midnight depot What do you need to finish the game?

Nothing, iirc

midnight depot Dec 21, 2023, 5:47 PM

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Oh!

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In that case, feel free to do so at your convenience so we can wrap up

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So far we have Artiks, you and me who have not yet finished

wet field Dec 21, 2023, 5:48 PM

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Alright, I can beat it tonight

midnight depot Dec 21, 2023, 5:48 PM

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Have fun!

weary lagoon Dec 21, 2023, 5:53 PM

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I need two shards of the triforce

midnight depot Dec 21, 2023, 5:54 PM

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And Chip needs lantern

weary lagoon Dec 21, 2023, 5:56 PM

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chip is done

midnight depot Dec 21, 2023, 5:58 PM

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Yeah but he won't release

wet field Dec 21, 2023, 6:00 PM

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weary lagoon I need two shards of the triforce

Lemme know what string I need to use for a hint and I'll look them up

weary lagoon Dec 21, 2023, 6:01 PM

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chip did release

midnight depot Dec 21, 2023, 6:01 PM

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Oh is that so

midnight depot Dec 21, 2023, 6:02 PM

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wet field Lemme know what string I need to use for a hint and I'll look them up

It is Artiks who needs to hint for his items.

weary lagoon Dec 21, 2023, 6:04 PM

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i can probably play some WW tomorrow to dig up the charts I got and use the hints

weary lagoon Dec 22, 2023, 9:21 PM

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Ive finished my secret santa so I can play wind waker now

midnight depot Dec 22, 2023, 9:24 PM

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Very nice. Have fun

weary lagoon Dec 22, 2023, 9:31 PM

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Sprintmaster for chip!

fierce vale Dec 22, 2023, 9:32 PM

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lets goooooooo

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imma be so zoomy

weary lagoon Dec 22, 2023, 9:33 PM

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and the finale treasure of the game is

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A grub for chip!

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@wet field

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the archipelago log says I have 7/8 pieces

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this looks like 6 to me but nowhere in the game does it tell me the number

midnight depot Dec 22, 2023, 9:36 PM

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Want me to look it up in the regular non spoiler log?

weary lagoon Dec 22, 2023, 9:36 PM

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well I can see all of them

midnight depot Dec 22, 2023, 9:36 PM

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It does look like six to me

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Okay

weary lagoon Dec 22, 2023, 9:36 PM

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but it says all of them are found except krattas

midnight depot Dec 22, 2023, 9:36 PM

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Hmm

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Do you know which one you may have missed?

weary lagoon Dec 22, 2023, 9:37 PM

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ah on the main menu its more clear that I have 7

wet field Dec 23, 2023, 4:41 AM

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@weary lagoon I got your triforce shard

wet field Dec 23, 2023, 4:41 AM

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midnight depot `FlitterDoom's The Focus (MAP04) - Yellow keycard is at SL: Izalith Pyromancy To...

Also I got this too

wet field Dec 23, 2023, 6:58 AM

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aight, finished dark souls 3

midnight depot Dec 23, 2023, 7:13 AM

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Great work!

midnight depot Dec 23, 2023, 4:54 PM

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Hi

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Time to play Doom

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All right

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All done https://i.imgur.com/GI793O4.png

Imgur

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And doom crashed, indicating the goal has been reached

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That makes both of my games, and one left out of seven

wet field Dec 23, 2023, 6:44 PM

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What game's left?

midnight depot Dec 23, 2023, 6:49 PM

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Wind Waker

wet field Dec 23, 2023, 6:52 PM

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I'd think that game would be pretty long to finish

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Ds3 is pretty quick all things considered

midnight depot Dec 23, 2023, 6:53 PM

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Has three checks left!

wet field Dec 23, 2023, 6:53 PM

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Oh I know, I'm just saying in general

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All that sailin

midnight depot Dec 23, 2023, 6:53 PM

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Might be taking time due to missing checks

weary lagoon Dec 26, 2023, 11:01 AM

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20 hearts im ready to win

midnight depot Dec 26, 2023, 11:02 AM

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Nice! Good luck

weary lagoon Dec 26, 2023, 11:16 AM

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We won!

fierce vale Dec 26, 2023, 11:16 AM

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awwyeah

midnight depot Dec 26, 2023, 3:00 PM

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Well done, Artiks, everyone.
https://i.imgur.com/VhtNyYY.png

Imgur

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Thanks for joining me in December's Archipelago game. I'm glad everyone's getting better at estimating playtime! Here's the spoiler log if you're curious about any part of it. The playthrough's "intended" order of completion was @weary lagoon last with OoT, then with WW. Then @midnight depot with OoT, then Doom, then @fierce vale, then @wet field, and @fresh hill finishes first. The run had a total of 45 distinct spheres and 2892 checks.
https://archipelago.gg/tracker/tVJpDhrNRcu3v5J2teXSuA Tracker.

📎 message.txt

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We did 8 location hints:
Ixrec: Victory
Chip: Queen's Fragment
Artiks: Windfall - Blue Potion Brewery, GF HBA 1500 points, Great Sea - Withered Trees, Outset - Savage Labyrinth Floor 30, Windfall - Win Sploosh Kaboom Twice
Flitter: Shadow Temple Bongo Bongo (failed.)

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If anyone is interested in buying games to play in future Archipelago runs, here's a list of deals I found interesting followed by links, assembled by the archipelago discord and cleaned by me:

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fierce vale Dec 26, 2023, 3:27 PM

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noita mentioned

midnight depot Dec 26, 2023, 3:28 PM

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That was so fast

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Almost like you have a script saying "Noita mentioned" the moment anyone says Noita

fierce vale Dec 26, 2023, 3:28 PM

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sneakybelle noone will ever know

midnight depot Dec 26, 2023, 3:30 PM

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I'd like a moderator's help clearing the newest pin from the channel. I'm going to keep updating the other two so they're relevant and accessible.

fresh hill Dec 26, 2023, 3:30 PM

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it's gone

midnight depot Dec 26, 2023, 3:31 PM

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Cheers!

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Hello! It's game time

Thank you for playing with me in the December game. I'm starting another Manechat Asynchronous Archipelago Game, with the intent of running until the end of January. If you're interested, please read the list of available games https://archipelago.gg/games and pick one or more games to run, then ping me so I can keep track of you and help you out with any problems.
The game will start January 5th or as soon as everyone RSVPs.
Also I'll ping people who might be interested (who I didn't just ping already) here:
@sage dawn @lament tusk

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I'll be playing Ocarina of Time and maybe Celeste or another game

fierce vale Dec 26, 2023, 3:33 PM

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what state is celeste in?

fresh hill Dec 26, 2023, 3:33 PM

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oh man

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can I get Outer Wilds into a playable state in 11 days...

midnight depot Dec 26, 2023, 3:34 PM

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- Currently, this is an Alpha release, so there may be bugs. The world should be fully playable either standalone or in a MultiWorld. The completion condition can be set to finishing either Chapter 7, 8, or 9.
- You can get the .apworld and corresponding Everest mod over at the releases page (https://github.com/doshyw/CelesteArchipelago/releases). Installation instructions and a description of the world's functionality are available there too.
- If you run into any problems, please feel free to reach out and/or report the issue on the Issues page for the repo (https://github.com/doshyw/CelesteArchipelago/issues).

Hope everyone enjoys!```

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It's playable. There's a manual tracker

midnight depot Dec 26, 2023, 3:35 PM

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fresh hill can I get Outer Wilds into a playable state in 11 days...

I'll run a February game, too!

fierce vale Dec 26, 2023, 3:35 PM

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celeste is simple enough that trackers shouldn't super matter paissapretty i'll see if i can get it working

fresh hill Dec 26, 2023, 3:35 PM

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do you have all the strawberries memorized? rdsnrk

fierce vale Dec 26, 2023, 3:37 PM

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teehee

midnight depot Dec 26, 2023, 3:38 PM

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I'm also considering A Short Hike

fierce vale Dec 26, 2023, 3:38 PM

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(does it break the in game listings? i have a fair memory for it mostly

midnight depot Dec 26, 2023, 3:38 PM

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I have no clue. I've not tried it yet

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I did listen to people play it and they didn't complain

weary lagoon Dec 26, 2023, 5:39 PM

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What do you mean my chicken was sphere 1..........................................................

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Ixrec hard trolling

midnight depot Dec 26, 2023, 5:42 PM

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IIRC he didn't know it was accessible through that method

sage dawn Dec 26, 2023, 6:21 PM

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I'm down. Not sure what I want to run yet but I have time to figure it out

midnight depot Dec 26, 2023, 6:33 PM

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Wonderful. Do talk to me if you need help with anything.

lament tusk Dec 26, 2023, 7:02 PM

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id WW properly in archipaelego yet?

midnight depot Dec 26, 2023, 7:04 PM

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Not even close

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Same state as last month

lament tusk Dec 26, 2023, 7:04 PM

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ok

fresh hill Dec 26, 2023, 7:37 PM

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weary lagoon What do you mean my chicken was sphere 1...........................................

welp, that’s ER for you

weary lagoon Dec 26, 2023, 10:44 PM

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maybe ill finally play hollow knight rando

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Wind Waker worked more than fine, anyway

wet field Dec 26, 2023, 10:45 PM

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midnight depot ## Hello! It's game time Thank you for playing with me in the December game. I'm...

I wanna do OOT. Are there any not-obvious settings you'd recommend in particular?

weary lagoon Dec 26, 2023, 10:45 PM

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key chains on 💯

wet field Dec 26, 2023, 10:46 PM

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this guy?

weary lagoon Dec 26, 2023, 10:46 PM

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yes

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keysanity on key rings mode on

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I can show you my settings.

wet field Dec 26, 2023, 10:48 PM

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I don't see keysanity anywhere cocothink

wet field Dec 26, 2023, 10:48 PM

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weary lagoon I can show you my settings.

yes pls

weary lagoon Dec 26, 2023, 10:48 PM

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wow theres a lot of settings.

wet field Dec 26, 2023, 10:49 PM

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omg you can randomize the low hp sound

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I'm gonna set it to completely random

weary lagoon Dec 26, 2023, 10:54 PM

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I think its standard to have open door of time but I like to have it set to closed so opening it feels rewarding

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 3:08 AM

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How familiar are you with the game?

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Also, I recommend you use the YAML file instead of the site because it's more flexible

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📎 FlitterOoT.yaml

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You can determine exactly what sort of randomness you want, what logic tricks you can do, and so on

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Very suitable for OoT

wet field Dec 27, 2023, 1:33 PM

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midnight depot How familiar are you with the game?

I 100%ed it when I was a kid and haven't touched it since then

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 1:33 PM

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Nice, nice

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How willing are you to learn new tricks in case you get stuck with little to do?

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You should set accessibility to locations, logic to glitchless, and be careful about nighttime skulltulas expecting sun's song

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This will make them much later in logic, which tends to make them trash

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For your first run I recommend randomizing skulltulas only outside of dungeons

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Do you prefer that the world be as open as possible or do you like a more linear experience where you don't have to do a lot of roaming to check different locations?

wet field Dec 27, 2023, 1:40 PM

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midnight depot How willing are you to learn new tricks in case you get stuck with little to do?

Willing

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 1:40 PM

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Great! My battery is about to run out. Talk to you on my desktop

wet field Dec 27, 2023, 1:40 PM

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midnight depot Do you prefer that the world be as open as possible or do you like a more linear...

I'm not sure I have a preference

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 1:56 PM

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Okay, uh

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https://github.com/ArchipelagoMW/Archipelago/blob/main/worlds/oot/LogicTricks.py

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This file contains all optional logic tricks you can use to skip stuff. You can browse through it and add what you like. If you add something, this means the seed might expect you to do it. Don't add anything you can't guarantee being able to do.

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Here's a list of what I have. The list is expecting a pretty good player, but intentionally avoids any tricks that require high precision or time sensitive stuff.

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logic_tricks:
    [Hidden Grottos without Stone of Agony, Fewer Tunic Requirements, Adult Kokiri Forest GS with Hover Boots, Lost Woods Adult GS without Bean, Man on Roof without Hookshot, Kakariko Rooftop GS with Hover Boots, Shadow Temple Entry with Fire Arrows, Death Mountain Trail Soil GS without Destroying Boulder, Death Mountain Trail Lower Red Rock GS with Hookshot, Death Mountain Trail Lower Red Rock GS with Hover Boots, Death Mountain Trail Climb with Hover Boots, Death Mountain Trail Upper Red Rock GS without Hammer, Goron City Spinning Pot PoH with Strength, Rolling Goron (Hot Rodder Goron) as Child with Strength, Crater's Bean PoH with Hover Boots, Death Mountain Crater Upper to Lower with Hammer, Zora's River Lower Freestanding PoH as Adult with Nothing, Zora's River Upper Freestanding PoH as Adult with Nothing, Zora's Domain Entry with Cucco, Zora's Domain Entry with Hover Boots, Skip King Zora as Adult with Nothing, Water Temple Entry without Iron Boots using Hookshot, Gerudo's Fortress Ledge Jumps, Lensless Wasteland, Reverse Wasteland, Deku Tree Basement without Slingshot, Dodongo's Cavern Vines GS from Below with Longshot, Dodongo's Cavern Staircase with Bow, Bottom of the Well without Lens of Truth, Child Dead Hand without Kokiri Sword, Forest Temple East Courtyard Vines with Hookshot, Fire Temple Boss Door without Hover Boots or Pillar, Fire Temple Flame Wall Maze Skip, Water Temple Torch Longshot, Water Temple Cracked Wall with Hover Boots, Water Temple River GS without Iron Boots, Shadow Temple Bongo Bongo without Lens of Truth, Shadow Temple River Statue with Bombchu, Shadow Temple MQ Invisible Blades Silver Rupees without Lens of Truth, Spirit Temple Sun Block Room Chest with Bow]```

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So you can go through my list and erase any tricks you don't want to do. You can ask me about individual tricks or visit the link for a description.

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Given your preferences, I recommend most of what Artiks recommended for you.

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I don't recommend you shuffle dungeon or overworld entrances unless you're willing to write a list down somewhere.

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You can set the item pool to plentiful to give yourself backup copies of items in case you get stuck, but balanced is fine too. Scarce can make it so you only have the bare minimum to do tricks.

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Shopsanity can be a drag if you don't have any wallets, so if you pick it, I recommend at least starting with one wallet upgrade

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Also, if you like randomizing audio, make sure to pick random ear safe whenever possible.

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The YAML file allows you to randomize your settings within a subset of ones you like

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For example:

    # Choose a color. "random_choice" selects a random option. "completely_random" generates a random hex code.
    random_choice: 0
    completely_random: 0
    kokiri_green: 50
    goron_red: 0
    zora_blue: 0
    black: 0
    white: 0
    azure_blue: 0
    vivid_cyan: 0
    light_red: 0
    fuchsia: 1
    purple: 1
    majora_purple: 1
    twitch_purple: 1
    purple_heart: 1
    persian_rose: 0
    dirty_yellow: 0
    blush_pink: 0
    hot_pink: 0
    rose_pink: 0
    orange: 0
    gray: 0
    gold: 0
    silver: 0
    beige: 0
    teal: 0
    blood_red: 0
    blood_orange: 0
    royal_blue: 0
    sonic_blue: 0
    nes_green: 0
    dark_green: 0
    lumen: 0```

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This will randomly shuffle 50 instances of kokiri green, one instance of fuchsia, purple, majora purple and twitch purple.

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Then it will choose one of these shuffled instances as the canonical color.

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In practice, it's a 50/5 chance to pick green

wet field Dec 27, 2023, 2:06 PM

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midnight depot Also, if you like randomizing audio, make sure to pick random ear safe whenever ...

I will not be using ear safe for the low hp sound

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 2:06 PM

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It's your funeral

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https://i.imgur.com/HuiuR20.png

Imgur

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These settings are common to all games, not just Ocarina of Time

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You can use local items to guarantee items end up in your world, nonlocal to guarantee others will have to find these items for you

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start inventory to start with some items (like a slightly bigger wallet)

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start hints and start location hints basically gives you free hints for items or locations that you hint every time

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Exclude locations is pretty important because fuck horseback archery

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I have it set to [GF HBA 1500 Points, GF HBA 1000 Points, Market Lost Dog, GC Pot Freestanding PoH, ZR Frogs Ocarina Game] so I can skip the parts of the game I find annoying

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Priority locations guarantee that location will be important for progression. I have it set so all bosses have important items:

    # Prevent these locations from having an unimportant item
    [Fire Temple Volvagia Heart, Forest Temple Phantom Ganon Heart, Jabu Jabus Belly Barinade Heart, Dodongos Cavern King Dodongo Heart, Deku Tree Queen Gohma Heart, Water Temple Morpha Heart, Shadow Temple Bongo Bongo Heart, Spirit Temple Twinrova Heart, Ganons Tower Boss Key Chest, Song from Malon, Song from Saria, Song from Ocarina of Time, Song from Impa, Song from Windmill, Song from Royal Familys Tomb]```

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And also all songs

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This basically forces me to do all dungeons

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(Minus Gerudo Training Ground)

wet field Dec 27, 2023, 2:10 PM

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midnight depot Priority locations guarantee that location will be important for progression. I ...

I was thinking I should've done that for ds3, but then it'd just be the regular game lmao

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 2:11 PM

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Well it'd be the regular game but you get the items in different order

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This is how I like it, personally

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That's everything I think you should know

wet field Dec 27, 2023, 2:12 PM

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Sweet, thanks. That's a good writeup

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 2:12 PM

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Good luck and have fun

wet field Dec 27, 2023, 2:15 PM

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midnight depot It's your funeral

If link suffers, then I will suffer too. Solidarity.

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 2:15 PM

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Oh speaking of which

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Do this

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    # Bonking on a wall or object will hurt Link. "Normal" is a half heart of damage.
    none: 1
    half: 5
    normal: 5
    double: 1
    quadruple: 0
    ohko: 0```

wet field Dec 27, 2023, 2:16 PM

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Lmao hell yeah

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 2:16 PM

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So you'll hear the sound more often

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Just don't combine it with Damage multiplier

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Also, if you set deadly bonks to ohko, King Dodongo dies upon bonking too

weary lagoon Dec 27, 2023, 4:16 PM

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midnight depot Exclude locations is pretty important because fuck horseback archery

git gud

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 4:18 PM

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No id rather have fun

lament tusk Dec 27, 2023, 5:47 PM

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so who's playing this time around? when were we starting too?

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 5:48 PM

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Me, Kratta

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Artiks, probably Chip and Ixrec

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As well as yay899

lament tusk Dec 27, 2023, 5:49 PM

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what are folks playing?

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 5:49 PM

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Just read the channel

lament tusk Dec 27, 2023, 5:49 PM

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its been a busy day and theres been a lot of chatter

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 5:49 PM

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We start as soon as everyone who expressed interest is ready, with a deadline of Jan 5th

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I'm playing OoT and one other game. Celeste or A Short Hike

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Maybe both

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Chip is thinking of Celeste. Artiks is considering Hollow Knight

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Kratta is doing OoT

lament tusk Dec 27, 2023, 5:52 PM

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i enjoyed subnautica, it was suprisingly short

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might try raft

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oh god this setting is just for masochists

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eh ill just play oot

fierce vale Dec 27, 2023, 6:03 PM

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i'm probably doing celeste+ hollow knight

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 6:04 PM

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Very reasonable

wet field Dec 27, 2023, 6:12 PM

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lament tusk i enjoyed subnautica, it was suprisingly short

I considered subnautica

lament tusk Dec 27, 2023, 6:12 PM

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it randomises suprisingly well!

wet field Dec 27, 2023, 6:12 PM

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Maybe I'll do that next month

lament tusk Dec 27, 2023, 6:12 PM

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i was able to 100% every check and launch the rocket in like 2 weeks

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how do i disable certain checks? i really dont want to have to do 1500 points

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 6:19 PM

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#1119170161518334004 message

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See full example YAML #1119170161518334004 message

lament tusk Dec 27, 2023, 6:20 PM

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thanks!

weary lagoon Dec 27, 2023, 6:27 PM

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The OOTMM thread on Archipelago discord seems dead. How sad.

lament tusk Dec 27, 2023, 6:32 PM

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midnight depot See full example YAML https://discord.com/channels/98609319519453184/11191701615...

could i use the site to generate a yaml then add settings from this example one for stuff it doesnt cover because i already generated one via the site and dont wanna do those settings again cos lazy

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 6:33 PM

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Probably!

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That's more effort but you're the boss

lament tusk Dec 27, 2023, 6:33 PM

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i like you're thinking!

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oh! it skips them by default

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i think

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neat!

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 6:39 PM

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No I'm the one that added those parts in

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Also see Logic Tricks at the bottom, and priority checks if you don't like to make bosses and songs be guaranteed priority items

lament tusk Dec 27, 2023, 6:39 PM

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no the yaml i downloaded had this by default:

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 6:40 PM

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Oh, minigame phases

lament tusk Dec 27, 2023, 6:40 PM

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thats all i cared about

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everything else i can do, i think

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 6:40 PM

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It doesn't skip horseback archery, does it?

lament tusk Dec 27, 2023, 6:41 PM

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anyway i think i've got a proper yaml set up
turned on scrub, token, shop and key sanitys

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 6:41 PM

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    # Dampe Race and Horseback Archery give both rewards if the second condition is met on the first attempt.
    false: 0
    true: 1```

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This means that if you the BETTER reward, you get both

lament tusk Dec 27, 2023, 6:41 PM

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oh wait

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noooooo

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 6:41 PM

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Instead of having to do it twice you can do it once really well

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Just use my YAML to add the checks to junk

lament tusk Dec 27, 2023, 6:53 PM

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right, how do i test to see if i have everything set up again? the setup page just tells me to give my yaml to the host which is unhelpful

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 6:54 PM

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Just generate a game

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Want me to do that for you?

lament tusk Dec 27, 2023, 6:55 PM

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i was hoping to test my edited yaml

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 6:55 PM

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Yes, test it by generating a game and looking at the spoiler log

lament tusk Dec 27, 2023, 6:56 PM

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i guess i should just ask you but i was hoping to figure that out on my own so i didnt need to ask you next time

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 6:56 PM

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You can do it through the website's Generate game button

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This will only work for released games like OoT

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Otherwise you have to download archipelago on your PC and run it manually

lament tusk Dec 27, 2023, 6:58 PM

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ah thanks

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 6:59 PM

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In order to generate manually, place your YAML into the players folder and run the launcher then click generate

fresh hill Dec 27, 2023, 7:10 PM

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lament tusk what are folks playing?

I haven't chosen specific games yet, I'm gonna wait and see what I'm in the mood for closer to the date, in part because I want to do more work on my own AP mod in that time

lament tusk Dec 27, 2023, 7:15 PM

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ok, fair enough ix

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alright i think i have everything set up
thanks for helping me figure stuff out flitter

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 7:16 PM

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Good luck! If you need any more help that I didn't already cover feel free to ask me

lament tusk Dec 27, 2023, 7:16 PM

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i only added the gerudo archery game to the exclusion list because i can handle dampe with bunny ear speed, and that was the main check that sucked. everything else thats not great i can do or cheat

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you want my yaml?

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 7:17 PM

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There's no bunny ear speed in archipelago

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Only child has bunny ears

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I want your YAML but not right now. When it's 100% ready

lament tusk Dec 27, 2023, 7:18 PM

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oh then im gonna add dampe

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 7:19 PM

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Dampe has two checks

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Use the spoiler log to figure their names out

lament tusk Dec 27, 2023, 7:19 PM

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only the second one im gonna remove

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 7:19 PM

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Okay

lament tusk Dec 27, 2023, 7:19 PM

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yeah i just did, but thanks

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by the way, thank you for introducing me to these games and hosting/organising them

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they're a lot of fun

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 7:21 PM

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You're welcome. It's a great concept

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I'm playing the official Crystal Project Randomizer right now. I wonder how I could mod archipelago integration into it

weary lagoon Dec 27, 2023, 7:26 PM

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I wonder if they will add Among Us to archipelago soon

lament tusk Dec 27, 2023, 7:27 PM

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lol

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 7:28 PM

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What's there to randomize?

lament tusk Dec 27, 2023, 7:28 PM

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that actually would be kinda fun, one person is the imposter and gives everyone else only ice traps or other bad effects, and folks need to figure out who it is

weary lagoon Dec 27, 2023, 7:29 PM

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I think that would be pretty easy with the log up

lament tusk Dec 27, 2023, 7:29 PM

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well either the log lies or is disabled

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 7:30 PM

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How would people find out without a log?

lament tusk Dec 27, 2023, 7:30 PM

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well i mean it wouldnt say "player x found y"

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something like that

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it might just say "you were given x" but no player or something

midnight depot Dec 27, 2023, 7:35 PM

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Yes, how would anyone find out who's the imposter without knowing who gave which item?

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There's #1092478908022136876 message

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https://i.imgur.com/gWnj46f.png

Imgur

weary lagoon Dec 29, 2023, 1:47 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ8t-hReh6k

YouTube

MajinPhil

Zelda but Literally EVERYTHING is Randomized

Link to the Full Run: https://youtu.be/EL6hpgKCM7U
Follow me on Twitch: http://twitch.tv/majinphil
Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/majinphil
Follow me on Instagram: https://instagram.com/majinphil
Follow me on Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@majinphil

Ocarina of Time x Majora’s Mask Multiworld Randomizer: https://ootmm.com
Useful Item...

▶ Play video

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maybe ill randomize every loading zone this time

ancient harness Dec 29, 2023, 1:53 PM

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holy

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I need to watch this

weary lagoon Dec 29, 2023, 1:54 PM

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majinphil is great

lament tusk Dec 29, 2023, 1:56 PM

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oh yeah you can add the buttons on the ocarina itself into the rando now

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because wtf

weary lagoon Dec 29, 2023, 1:56 PM

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Diet sword ChisatoXD

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Soul of flying pots ICANT

midnight depot Dec 30, 2023, 8:09 AM

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Hello. Time to test Celeste

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Step 1- Install the everest mod manager. seems designed in a fun way. Asks for admin permissions, explains why and offers fallback in case you refuse

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Step 2- Download mod, APworld and YAML file from github. Put mod in mod folder. Configure YAML.

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Aaand it crashed

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Funny log here. I'm afraid I'm no good at reading the error handler portion of it, so I'll ask in the thread what I did wrong.

📎 log_20231230_113114.txt

fresh hill Dec 30, 2023, 8:37 AM

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hm... yep, that won't mean anything to anyone but the maintainer

midnight depot Dec 30, 2023, 8:37 AM

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FNA is pretty tricky to mod

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Let's try to play the other game in the meanwhile

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Friendship ended with Celeste. A Short Hike is my new best friend.

fresh hill Dec 30, 2023, 8:39 AM

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we're really pushing the boundaries of bleeding edge software here

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I might even end up bringing my own mod to this depending on how the next few days of development go

midnight depot Dec 30, 2023, 8:40 AM

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That'll be fun

midnight depot Dec 30, 2023, 9:02 AM

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A Short Hike works perfectly

weary lagoon Dec 30, 2023, 10:11 AM

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Is it annoying to set up Hollow Knight?

midnight depot Dec 30, 2023, 10:15 AM

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Nah

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Easier than OoT, for sure

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1- Get the Scarab Modloader.
2- Click on the mods you want there including archipelago.
3- Give me your YAML

midnight depot Dec 30, 2023, 11:41 AM

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Celeste works. I need version 4335

fierce vale Dec 30, 2023, 11:50 AM

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twicrazy now the game is can i get that working for the itch.io version

midnight depot Dec 30, 2023, 11:53 AM

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itch.io of Celeste?

fierce vale Dec 30, 2023, 12:25 PM

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yeah

midnight depot Dec 30, 2023, 12:34 PM

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It'll work fine but you need to manually add it

fierce vale Dec 30, 2023, 12:55 PM

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CoolCat it launches, now i gotta figure out the world gen PL_lunateehee

midnight depot Dec 30, 2023, 1:01 PM

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Just connect to the test world I made

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Let me find it

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Here you go https://archipelago.gg/room/dHXIEaTzQNqi_8n2jf54mA

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archipelago.gg:50317
FlCeleste

fierce vale Dec 30, 2023, 1:08 PM

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i went in and picked up the first strawberry

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CoolCat yup it works

midnight depot Dec 30, 2023, 1:10 PM

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Nice

weary lagoon Dec 30, 2023, 6:03 PM

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Looks like archipelago doesnt let you shuffle ocarina buttons yet

midnight depot Dec 30, 2023, 6:03 PM

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Indeed not

midnight depot Jan 1, 2024, 12:32 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB4LDt30pAw

YouTube

Games Done Quick

Showrunner Archipelago Randomizer- Passion Project Episode 20 - GDQ...

Passion Project is a speedrunning variety show hosted by Amber Cyprian every other Wednesday @ 10 PM EST. The show encourages anyone and everyone in the speedrun community to showcase the projects they've been working on! Whether it's your favorite run you've been grinding, a new game or category that you're routing, a finished TAS or Segmented ...

▶ Play video

ancient harness Jan 1, 2024, 12:34 PM

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Huh, Jan 14 is a pretty late start for AGDQ

weary lagoon Jan 1, 2024, 2:56 PM

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I have to write midterm evaluations in january for 150~ kids so right now I'm debating between running 1 or 0 games

fierce vale Jan 1, 2024, 2:59 PM

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😤 that sounds like the perfect time to learn a new game

ancient harness Jan 1, 2024, 3:00 PM

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Clearly you should randomize the kids' evaluations

weary lagoon Jan 1, 2024, 3:01 PM

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So if Flitter finds one in his game he has to write that one?

fierce vale Jan 1, 2024, 3:02 PM

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dumbtiktok can i wrtie "needs to learn more about [randomised wikipedia page filtered for sfw]"

weary lagoon Jan 1, 2024, 3:03 PM

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No but you could probably get close to something passable with chatgpt

midnight depot Jan 1, 2024, 3:11 PM

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I love being mean to kids and giving them a fair score on their midterm

fresh hill Jan 1, 2024, 3:16 PM

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there are plenty of small and short games with AP support, like Pseudoregalia or Minit or A Short Hike

midnight depot Jan 1, 2024, 3:22 PM

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And I can give you a copy of a Short Hike

fierce vale Jan 1, 2024, 8:02 PM

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fs_fascinating i forget if i said, but imma do celeste+ hollow nkight, using my yaml from last time, i can resend it if you dont have it to hand

midnight depot Jan 1, 2024, 8:29 PM

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Sounds good. Please send me your YAMLs again.

fierce vale Jan 2, 2024, 3:45 PM

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heres my hollowknight yaml, celeste isn't modifyable yet right?

📎 ChipKnight.yaml

midnight depot Jan 2, 2024, 3:48 PM

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I think there's a little modification you can do. Thanks

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Who else is playing? I know Ixrec is almost done getting his game to work. @wet field and @sage dawn and @lament tusk: are you playing? We start in three days. I'd like your YAML files at your earliest convenience.

midnight depot Jan 2, 2024, 3:52 PM

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fierce vale heres my hollowknight yaml, celeste isn't modifyable yet right?

At the minimum you need a name

fierce vale Jan 2, 2024, 3:55 PM

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paissapretty me eepy, me not master chapter 9, i got chapter 8 though

📎 Chipleste.yaml

midnight depot Jan 2, 2024, 3:56 PM

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Nice. I'm only doing 7

lament tusk Jan 2, 2024, 3:56 PM

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Oh I thought i gave you my yaml

midnight depot Jan 2, 2024, 3:56 PM

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You did? My bad

lament tusk Jan 2, 2024, 3:56 PM

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I'm still in bed at 1600 ill crawl out of it... at some point

wet field Jan 2, 2024, 5:27 PM

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midnight depot Who else is playing? I know Ixrec is almost done getting his game to work. <@954...

Yeah. I can set it up tonight after work

midnight depot Jan 2, 2024, 5:27 PM

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Thanks

lament tusk Jan 2, 2024, 6:38 PM

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yaml get

📎 Meganoot.yaml

midnight depot Jan 2, 2024, 6:44 PM

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Thank you!

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 12:17 AM

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it only just hit me a few minutes ago that because my mod only supports 0.4.4 (everyone expected it to be out sooner), you can't host it on the website yet even if I send you the .apworld

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so unless they release it right now presumably I should just bring a normal game to this async

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 12:19 AM

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Yes you can

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As long as I generate it with my 0.4.4 I can host it on the regular website. I've been doing that for a while

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 12:20 AM

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weird, I just tried that and it didn't work

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 12:20 AM

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Oh

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 12:21 AM

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like I rewrote my install instructions to recommend local hosting because it did not work

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 12:21 AM

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I've been doing it with other in progress games that require 0.4.4

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Maybe someone on the dev channel knows what's up?

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 12:21 AM

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ok there might be a more serious issue, let's move this to the dev thread

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 12:22 AM

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Or we can use the beta version of the archipelago site

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 1:44 AM

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it was a false alarm / misunderstanding; after a quick hotfix the website is now able to host Outer Wilds multiworlds

wet field Jan 3, 2024, 5:47 AM

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@midnight depot Any idea why this might be happening? (I changed the AP version requirement to 0.4.3, dunno if that's supposed to break anything)

📎 krattaOOT.yaml

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oh maybe it's b/c of the non_local_items

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it was not because of non_local_items

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 5:51 AM

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I know what that error message means directly but it seems like the sort of thing a player shouldn't be able to cause without a bug in the apworld

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especially since your yaml does not explicitly fiddle with "ZR GS Ladder"

wet field Jan 3, 2024, 5:54 AM

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yeah it complains about a different location every time

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 5:55 AM

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aaaaah that's Zora's River Gold Skulltula

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so... clearly not an event

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no idea then

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 9:54 AM

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wet field <@68799960375623680> Any idea why this might be happening? (I changed the AP ver...

Don't change the requirements. The 0.4.4 and 0.4.3 YAMLs are incompatible. We will be using 0.4.4

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If you want to generate a 0.4.4 game for testing, I have an existent installation I can generate for you

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 1:42 PM

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and 0.4.4 just dropped for real

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 1:49 PM

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Just in time

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 1:50 PM

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according to github, my mod came out a mere 14 hours before 0.4.4 did

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that was unreasonably neck and neck

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 1:50 PM

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So both are ready?

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 1:50 PM

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yep

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 1:51 PM

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Fantastic

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 1:51 PM

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the only step left is being added to the Outer Wilds Mods database, which I've already submitted a request for so that'll happen whenever the admins of that feel like doing it (unless I did something they take umbrage with), but of course that's completely optional for me playing it here

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 1:52 PM

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Glad I delayed to Jan 5 instead of immediately starting

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 1:52 PM

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I'm thinking AHiT and OW will be my games this time

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 1:53 PM

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I'm thinking of dropping Celeste to run A Short Hike and OoT

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Because Celeste has seen a lot of issues in the thread

fierce vale Jan 3, 2024, 1:53 PM

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peek_HP i should probably drop it too then

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 1:54 PM

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probably with chill AHiT settings, and... well "hard" would be an exaggeration, but OW with the true-er ending and accessibility: minimal

fierce vale Jan 3, 2024, 1:55 PM

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i dont think i can be bothered to figure out something to replace it with, so just hollowknight for me awwyeah

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 1:55 PM

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No Short Hike?

fierce vale Jan 3, 2024, 1:57 PM

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i know almost nothing about a short hike

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how long is it/ how hard is it to setup?

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 1:58 PM

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It is like three hours long

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I finished the any% in two hours my first time around

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 1:58 PM

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it's my go-to example of why "small open worlds" are the best kind of open world

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 1:58 PM

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It's meant to be chill and simple, but the world is dense and full of things to explore.

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Archipelago installation needs you to drag and drop files

fierce vale Jan 3, 2024, 1:59 PM

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NamazuThink if there will be no downsides to me doing it 100% blind sure

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 2:00 PM

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It should be fine!

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Let me drop you the files you need

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You'll need this

📎 FlortHike.yaml

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 2:01 PM

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I never thought about it much but I guess A Short Hike would suffer very little if at all from playing rando before vanilla, unlike most of these games

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 2:01 PM

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I recommend you turn off skip cutscenes.

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Other than that, all the settings are set to be as easy as possible

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The Archipelago Randomizer is basically the vanilla version, with more chests added to give the game extra checks

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And you can drop this file into the game's folder

📎 Randomizer_2.zip

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Sorry, the "Modding" folder

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Which you can get by dropping this first into the game's folder

📎 modding-tools-windows_1.zip

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If you need to try the installation, just connect to https://archipelago.gg/room/dHXIEaTzQNqi_8n2jf54mA again

Archipelago

Multiworld dHXIEaTzQNqi_8n2jf54mA

2 Players Multiworld
running on archipelago.gg with port 50317

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Yo what the heck

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Now the links embed

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 2:11 PM

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oh yeah, I think I've seen that before

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no clue when it was added

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 2:12 PM

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Four days ago the same link didn't embed

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A bit later today I will collect the final version of each file from everyone and then we can start.

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 2:23 PM

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should I DM my files now?

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 2:24 PM

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Yeah

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I'll need the YAML and the APworld to generate from a fresh 0.4.4 installation

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I have a copy of the APworld from your Github if that will work

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No Short Hike?

wet field Jan 3, 2024, 2:41 PM

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midnight depot If you want to generate a 0.4.4 game for testing, I have an existent installatio...

Alright yeah, do that please. I think my yaml is how I want it, but I just wanted to make sure everything was working

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 2:43 PM

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Will do as soon as the cat decides to get up and leave

wet field Jan 3, 2024, 2:45 PM

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I think my oot should be decently painful, but not that painful

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 3:39 PM

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Okay. I'm reviewing Kratta's file just in case, then generating a test game with every file I have

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I see that your seed is set to have a chance of generating some Master Quest dungeons

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  mq_dungeons_count:
    # With MQ dungeons as Count: number of randomly-selected dungeons to be MQ layout.
    #
    # You can define additional values between the minimum and maximum values.
    # Minimum value is 0
    # Maximum value is 12
    0: 1
    1: 1
    2: 2
    random: 0
    random-low: 2
    random-high: 0```

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This is fine if you're fine with it

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It'll have a 33% chance of generating a random low number (could be 0), a 33% chance of generating two, and a 33% chance of generating one or none.

wet field Jan 3, 2024, 3:43 PM

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Yep

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Oh wait, I didn't realize that's what random-low did

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 3:44 PM

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Random-low can be a random low number. I'm not exactly sure which numbers are available but my guess is 0-6

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Where 6-12 is random-high

wet field Jan 3, 2024, 3:45 PM

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Oh wait I misread what you said

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Yes, that's what I want

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 3:45 PM

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Excellent

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@lament tusk's YAML is invalid

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You'll need to generate one with Archipelago 0.4.4

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Yours is a 0.4.3 YAML https://i.imgur.com/aAy6FL9.png

Imgur

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And the test game is generating

wet field Jan 3, 2024, 3:47 PM

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I've never played the master quest dungeons before

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 3:48 PM

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That's okay. ZeldaDungeons has a guide for those, I think

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Test game is up. Feel free to use it to validate your setup

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https://archipelago.gg/room/e_s2tA1FSDGy-BJV85zZeQ

Archipelago

Multiworld e_s2tA1FSDGy-BJV85zZeQ

6 Players Multiworld
running on archipelago.gg with port 57767

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Here's the spoiler file:

📎 message.txt

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Meganought is not included for now

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 4:01 PM

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Damnit sorry

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Did it get updated like last week or something?

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 4:01 PM

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It was updated today, but

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We were already going to use 0.4.4 and have been since November

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We were just using prerelease versions

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 4:02 PM

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I don't know why there's an issue then I generated via the website

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 4:02 PM

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The website was using 0.4.3

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Only after the stable version released today did it use 0.4.4

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(That's why I told you not to generate via the website earlier)

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 4:03 PM

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Well I didn't know that

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I'll fix that in a sec

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 4:05 PM

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Here's the old file in case you want to copy parts of it

📎 Meganoot.yaml

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 4:05 PM

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i still have the old file but thanks

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acn i generate through the website now then? its safe to do so?

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 4:05 PM

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I think so

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I still recommend you just edit the example YAML

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Here's the example

📎 Ocarina_of_Time.yaml

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 4:06 PM

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+the example yaml is slightly less convenient

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 4:06 PM

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Sure is!

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 4:12 PM

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seems to be working

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first 3 checks should be plenty for a quick test room, since one of them had an item that's not for me

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 4:13 PM

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Excellent

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 4:15 PM

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this should be what you're looking for

📎 Meganoot.yaml

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 4:17 PM

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All right! I'll generate another test game to include yours just in case, but you don't have to test since your setup probably works

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 4:17 PM

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had to check my notes on how AHiT setup works, but that also connected fine and immediately showed the two items from OW

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I think that's enough testing for me

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 4:17 PM

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Okay

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Oh it's taking significantly longer with one extra game added https://i.imgur.com/yPXQMa4.png

Imgur

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 4:18 PM

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OoT do be like that

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 4:19 PM

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Well it didn't take too long with just two OoT worlds

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 4:19 PM

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i only added keysanity, shopsanity and skullsanity

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 4:19 PM

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I believe OoT is one of the worlds that's had issues with superlinear generation times in the past

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 4:19 PM

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Is it N^2 time complexity?

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 4:19 PM

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i havent yet added pot, cow, beehive or freestandting piece of heart sanity yet

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 4:19 PM

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Oh, just linear

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Wait, superlinear means longer than linear

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 4:19 PM

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right

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 4:20 PM

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lament tusk i havent yet added pot, cow, beehive or freestandting piece of heart sanity yet

That's good because the automated tracker doesn't track any of those

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 4:20 PM

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oh right i still have that

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 4:20 PM

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So you'd have to make a manual list

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 4:20 PM

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also thats good to know

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 4:20 PM

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the "2 didn't take that long, 3 should be fine" idea is usually assuming linear time, i.e. time to generate N worlds is O(N) or less

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 4:20 PM

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Yeah

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 4:20 PM

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but OoT is apparently one of the games where sometimes adding more worlds to generation does worse than that

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at least I think it was

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 4:21 PM

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since when was time linear?

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 4:21 PM

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I wonder what the fuck they're doing because it feels like it should be linear

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 4:21 PM

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I know they had a lot of issues with generation times a month or so back but I can't claim to understand half the technical details

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 4:21 PM

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At worst nlogn

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 4:22 PM

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well that depends a bit on whether N is referring to worlds, or items/locations, or something else

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 4:22 PM

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Checks to place

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Either way

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https://archipelago.gg/room/PeTNcnNISRSfTznkULIQnQ test game number 2 featuring Meganought and Dante from Devil May Cry

Archipelago

Multiworld PeTNcnNISRSfTznkULIQnQ

7 Players Multiworld
running on archipelago.gg with port 64548

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And spoiler log

📎 message.txt

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 4:23 PM

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ok, for N locations that's definitely polynomial time then because of all the per-location can_reach() calls it has to do after each item placement

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"superlinear = bad" was referring to N as in worlds

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 4:24 PM

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Makes sense

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@weary lagoon and @sage dawn we're starting the game today or tomorrow. If you still intend to join please ping or DM me to ask for an extension.

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 4:29 PM

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aww i randomised the looks of the UI and navi but its all fairly normal this run

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looks like my end is runnin, im a open a chest to make sure

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 4:30 PM

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You can make it so it doesn't generate normal colors

sage dawn Jan 3, 2024, 4:30 PM

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I think I'll probably skip this one. I've been too tired lately.

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 4:30 PM

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  b_button_color:
    # Choose a color. "random_choice" selects a random option. "completely_random" generates a random hex code.
    random_choice: 0
    completely_random: 0
    n64_blue: 0
    n64_green: 50
    n64_red: 0
    gamecube_green: 0
    gamecube_red: 0
    gamecube_grey: 0
    yellow: 0
    black: 0
    white: 0
    magenta: 0
    ruby: 0
    sapphire: 0
    lime: 0
    cyan: 0
    purple: 0
    orange: 0```

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The YAML file allows you to randomly choose from any set of options at random, unlike the website

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 4:31 PM

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lol i got naryus love in one chest for flitter, but the text randomiser didnt give me that text box
the next item gave me the text box for getting naryu's love for flitter lol

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if we are making a new game before finally playing i probably am gonna change the text setting, not knowing what item im looking at is annoying
its a minor inconvenience but one i should change

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 4:34 PM

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We are making a new game

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Feel free to make any changes to your YAML and pass them to me

weary lagoon Jan 3, 2024, 4:36 PM

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I think I will take a break this month

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 4:36 PM

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that should do it

📎 Meganoot_1.yaml

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no worries arti

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 4:37 PM

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Sure thing

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In that case, we can start immediately, but first

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@fierce vale would you like some time to test first, or should we start the game? https://i.imgur.com/3RJVEw1.png

Imgur

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 4:38 PM

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midnight depot You can make it so it doesn't generate normal colors

also yeah i know but i set it to completely random and the colours ae just slightly off
its still neat
besides if random means i exclude default colours then thats not random

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 4:38 PM

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Yes it is

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Random is random, regardless of the criteria

fierce vale Jan 3, 2024, 4:38 PM

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i just got like 3 things chucked onto my plate, so i'll just have hollow knight this time

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 4:39 PM

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Got it. I'll generate as-is then

wet field Jan 3, 2024, 4:47 PM

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midnight depot <@110476653704011776> would you like some time to test first, or should we start...

I capitalized the second "O" in oot to cause disorder and mayhem opalineclueless

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 4:48 PM

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lol they are all different

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 4:48 PM

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Game is up https://archipelago.gg/room/3t43wc-aRFy6Lkoma2dkog

Archipelago

Multiworld 3t43wc-aRFy6Lkoma2dkog

7 Players Multiworld
running on archipelago.gg with port 61299

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Pin updated

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Also, I'm adding a server password in case Ixrec runs into issues with his in-development game while I'm asleep and needs admin permission.

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 4:53 PM

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hax!

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admin aboose!

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 5:23 PM

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all right, that's all the free locations on the starter planet done, with a surprisingly good haul for only 6 checks

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 5:25 PM

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Hell yeah you found Greg

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First item of the game https://i.imgur.com/PI4miXV.png

Imgur

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Get fucked, annoying hat kid

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Bottom of the well key ring for Kratta

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progressive scale for Kratta

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Forest temple key ring for me

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Hidden station stag

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simple key for chip

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Meganought didn't use key rings?!

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fire temple key

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 5:55 PM

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nope

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more fun that way

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i also randomised the 50 rupees from the frog songs

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 5:56 PM

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I randomize the rupees because it's more checks but I find it frustrating to do multiple runs of each dungeon so I do key rings

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 5:56 PM

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thats understandable, and if i was doing masterquest i would

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 5:57 PM

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spirit temple key ring for kratta

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 5:57 PM

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but i've been playiong oot since i was like 7, i know the game very well

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 5:57 PM

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Great!

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Elegant key for chip. I'm finding a lot of valuable keys

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Monarch wings for chip, bombchus for kratta,

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 6:00 PM

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oh wow, bow in mida's house???

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also your iron boots flitter

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what an amazing first 4 checks

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shit adult wallet?

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wow

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 6:02 PM

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Yarn for Ixrec, progressive wallet for Meganought

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 6:02 PM

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what a start

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 6:02 PM

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Easy game for babies

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Time piece for Ixrec

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 6:05 PM

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hollownest_seal, is that important chip?
i think grubs are hollownight skull tokenst oo, right? i have those as options in a shop, cant afford them yet tho

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 6:05 PM

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No hallownest seals are money

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They add damage if Chip has that one mod

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Grubs are like skulltula tokens, yes

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And that's 25% of A Short Hike

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 6:05 PM

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ah ok, so buy the grubs

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 6:05 PM

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I'm going to stop for now. I collected all the low hanging fruits

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 6:05 PM

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ok gnight!

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 6:06 PM

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Tomorrow I have a dentist appointment, then I can play some OoT

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Oh, before I forget

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Settings for each player for the reference

📎 message.txt

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(May contain spoiler if you randomized your settings)

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Shop prices, ganon castle trials chosen, and charm notch costs for players (100% spoilers, but has no info regarding which checks are where):

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📎 Spoiler.NFO

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 6:11 PM

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my fucking hookshot? really?

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 6:11 PM

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(It's a text file but this way discord won't preview it for you)

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 6:11 PM

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wow

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 6:11 PM

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[root at 2024-01-03 18:10:59,289]: (Team #1) Meganoot sent Progressive Hookshot to Meganoot (Deku Tree Compass Chest)

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Oh yeah, A Short Hike needs 15 seashells for a check

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My top priority is finding all golden feathers. Anything else is not essential (just gives me more checks)

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What should we keep an eye out for in regards to the Outer Wilds?

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 6:23 PM

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there's a bunch of items required to complete Outer Wilds, but there are two that stand out as unlocking by far the most checks: Translator and Signalscope

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 6:23 PM

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just found my gerudo membership card
what is this rando???

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i've had maybe 12 checks and only 6 have been bad

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 6:24 PM

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Might be A Short Hike and Outer Wilds being really low density in comparison

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 6:24 PM

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true

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but even so theres a LOT of checks just in my copy of oot

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 6:25 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/2oshBvf.png

Imgur

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 6:25 PM

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that shouldn't force ultra-valuable items to be early in ASH+OW though

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 6:25 PM

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They're not early

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I've finished a quarter of the game already

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 6:25 PM

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ah right

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 6:26 PM

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It is the easiest quarter to be fair

fresh hill Jan 3, 2024, 6:26 PM

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there's only 2 other checks I could do in OW at the moment

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so I think that means ASH just has a bigger first sphere?

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 6:27 PM

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Yes

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All of the checks I found have been accessible with no items

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 6:30 PM

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magic for kratta

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my own magic

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both lon lon ranch gold skultulas

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note: i have no sword or even deku sticks yet

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 7:03 PM

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prelude of light for flitter

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 7:04 PM

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That's the teleport to temple of time spell

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I have teleport destinations randomized

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 7:05 PM

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whelp

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 7:24 PM

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key ring spirit tmple flitter

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 7:25 PM

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Thank you!

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 7:38 PM

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i think an... "okareena?" is probably junk for kratta

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 7:54 PM

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bombs? neat

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 8:21 PM

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how am i supposed to get the water medalion from the forest temple when the doors to becoming adult are closed?

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 8:22 PM

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Do you need water medallion to open the door?

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 8:22 PM

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i think so yeah

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i forgor how closed adult worked

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 8:23 PM

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You don't

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Open the Door of Time

Play the Song of Time while standing in front of the pedestal. The only requirements are a Fairy Ocarina and the Song of Time. The Spiritual Stones are not required, and the Ocarina of Time is also not required. ```

lament tusk Jan 3, 2024, 8:23 PM

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ok then its fine!

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phew

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i git a lot i can still do buti cant be bothered right now. lot of it required grinding money and i have no eazy grind method right now. will do more in the morning

midnight depot Jan 3, 2024, 8:25 PM

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Yeah, take your time

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It's a month long game

fresh hill Jan 4, 2024, 7:40 AM

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let's do some AHiT

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thank you for the laser trap

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very early left mothwing for chip

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wow, this might be the most valuable badge seller I've ever rolled

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@lament tusk ocarina or hover boots?

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oooh red vault had my OW imaging rule, don't normally get that early

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ok well now I can just buy both

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and kratta's bow, and mega's lens...

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this seed wants progress

fresh hill Jan 4, 2024, 8:20 AM

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and mega's bombs, damn

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that was just a first pass of Mafia Town but that's plenty of good items for one session

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getting out of the pilot's seat just to take a picture while crashlanding always feels ridiculous, but there's your five arrows

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and that's OW in BK

lament tusk Jan 4, 2024, 9:03 AM

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fresh hill <@95828309849432064> ocarina or hover boots?

Hoverboots are essential but only really used in shadow temple and some early skips
Ocarina is literally the most important item in ocarina of time, though I don't have any songs yet
Thanks tho

lament tusk Jan 4, 2024, 10:44 AM

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how do i start the archipelago server again?

fresh hill Jan 4, 2024, 10:45 AM

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oh, if the room went to sleep you just reload the room page

lament tusk Jan 4, 2024, 10:46 AM

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wheres the link to the room page?

fresh hill Jan 4, 2024, 10:46 AM

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first link in the pins

lament tusk Jan 4, 2024, 10:46 AM

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i cant seem to find it

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oooh ok

fresh hill Jan 4, 2024, 10:46 AM

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although I've already reloaded it by double-checking that before saying it

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so you should be good to go

lament tusk Jan 4, 2024, 10:46 AM

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i had that saved and indeed open at the time but i didnt realise that was the page i needed

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also bizhawk has opened my quick save not the main menu of the game where my actual save is

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and i dont know how to stop that?

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i just deleted the save

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it weas easier

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oh shit, not only the ocarina and hoverboots but a bottle (with fish) and lens of truth? nice!
(i already had bombs ix but thanks for the refill)

fresh hill Jan 4, 2024, 10:51 AM

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I could've played more AHiT but I felt like that was almost too much progression for a first session already rdwut

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the question now is does this seed get evil later

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(maybe it put all your boss keys on my death wishes sweat )

lament tusk Jan 4, 2024, 10:53 AM

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ohno

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oooh my mirror sheild

wet field Jan 4, 2024, 3:54 PM

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fresh hill and kratta's bow, and mega's lens...

Yooo thanks

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Haven't even launched the game and I already have the bow, we are MOVING

lament tusk Jan 4, 2024, 3:57 PM

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my bow was the third item i found

midnight depot Jan 4, 2024, 5:03 PM

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hello

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Time to play OoT

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The most important part

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A funny name

#Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer

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