#Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer

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weary lagoon
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in vanilla its just supposed to be your next destination

midnight depot
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Neat!

midnight depot
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Hint: Gerudo Training Ground is replaced with Ice Cavern

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That's all the checks I can do for now

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Blasphemous time. The three agonies are dead

midnight depot
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Bomb bag to me!

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And my ocarina!

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Artiks's iron boots

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Lantern for Tunic

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Ruto's Letter for Artiks

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This area is all bangers

weary lagoon
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wow those are pretty good items

midnight depot
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Nocturne of Shadows for me

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Magic echo. That sounds important

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Also bone card, a couple of notes,

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A blue questagon

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That's everything

weary lagoon
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YES?!

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the blue questagon we've been waiting for the whole run?!

midnight depot
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No that's everything I can get in Blasphemous

fresh hill
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hm… pretty sure my fox needs Prayer to reach that area

weary lagoon
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Flitter, find Ixrecs prayer

fresh hill
midnight depot
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Roger

fresh hill
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the three hexagons are your game completion keys in Tunic; the game never uses an English word for them iirc but somewhere in the code they’re called Questagons so the randomiser uses that

midnight depot
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Yeah

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I can easily tell they're triforce pieces

fresh hill
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ok, time to play more of my games

midnight depot
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Have fun

fresh hill
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let's at least clear all of Catacombs this session now that I can go places

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oh someone even found my swim

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right, the biggest thing left for my EL world then is Piercing Spectral Lance to reach the final boss

lament tusk
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no laser cutter still

fresh hill
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Flitter finally has the power of blue candles

lament tusk
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wcct i need you to get the chaingun in map 8, it gives me the entire aroura and damn near every other wreck

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i guess im still the most ahead so theres no priority

fresh hill
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Shield!

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now my fox is unstoppable

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this is why I like to priority_locations boss fights

fresh hill
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found yay's cling gem, so that game's basically done /s

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always nice when Siegrid drops something valuable

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all right, 1% to 42% feels acceptable for one session ppenk

ancient harness
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Holy hell, SSG

fresh hill
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omg so many Tunic items it's still not done

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also I forgot the Fool Traps sometimes make you a bobble head

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in true Zelda style, Artik's strength upgrade was hidden behind a waterfall

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Saria's Song, was that one of the important ones?

midnight depot
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It unlocks a few locks

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Like Forest Temple (Unless you just jump over the guy)

fresh hill
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ah yes, those pesky laser security grids you always find in ancient tombs

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wow, my fox is at 40%? I only just left the overworld and its tutorial mini-dungeons

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all those normally late game checks make it a lot denser than I realized

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Scavenger Mask! rdawwyeah

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which still looks like that one Mass Effect species

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I think I still need prayer to make it anywhere interesting in quarry+ziggurat though

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ok, fighting the gardens boss with zero healing flasks was maybe a bad call, but it barely worked out and that's both bells rung now

lament tusk
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grats

midnight depot
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Time to fight Gwyn

fresh hill
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once I have the Red Questagon

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ok 46% seems like a good stopping point, that was almost every available check in Bottom of the Well, Dark Tomb and West Gardens

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with my current items I could also do Atoll, Quarry and Swamp, but not all of their subareas, mostly due to Prayer

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and the three items I'm aware of hints for in my world are all Prayer-blocked

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so perhaps the time has come to use my first hint

weary lagoon
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oo silver gauntlets

fresh hill
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iirc I found Flitter's (silver) key of the scribe earlier

midnight depot
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I think that's the important one

weary lagoon
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bomb bag!

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out of logic night skull

fresh hill
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I believe you also need bronze key and of course the stuff to reach WotHP, but yeah

weary lagoon
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thoughts on cyan silver gauntlets

lament tusk
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swag

fresh hill
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woo card slot

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(Tunic's equivalent of HK charm notches)

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you know I should probably give myself a slot in start inventory so I have the option of using one of the cards people find early on

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AHiT also has this issue in rando (but more acute since 1, and later 2, of the badges are effectively mandatory) and I eventually gave myself 2 Badge Pins there

weary lagoon
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Hopefully spirit temple has something incredible since I got requiem, silver gauntlets, and spirit keys in the early game

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Right.. requiem not relevant, my fire temple is there in this seed ppenk

ancient harness
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Alright, back to BK for me

fresh hill
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62%, nice

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I should probably play Pseudo later until that's at BK again

weary lagoon
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unless the tunic wand is the greatest item in the game, spirit temple wasnt that good

fresh hill
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omg ranged attack!

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there's very few checks unlocked by it, but if I had gotten it before shield + orb it would've been a huge win for normal combat

midnight depot
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Hi

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DnD is over so I get to play more Ocarina of Time

fresh hill
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in fact next time I play Tunic I should force it to give me one of the magic weapons early instead of sword, my seeds keep hiding magic until the very end

midnight depot
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Zora tunic, bombs, songs, ocarina

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Plenty of new stuff

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Serenade of water warps me to

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...Death mountain crater?

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Nocturne of Shadow leads to Lon Lon Ranch

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Kind of dark

fresh hill
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you have a song that teleports you to Lon Lon Ranch?

midnight depot
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I have dungeon entrance randomizer,

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And apparently one of its features is it changes where songs lead

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Suits me because that's a central location

weary lagoon
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I have dungeon entrance randomizer without that

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you turned on random warp songs

midnight depot
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Oh maybe I did

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Progressive dream breaker for yay

fresh hill
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hm, was that her 2nd or 3rd?

midnight depot
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I was all "Yeah let's do dodongo's cavern. It's green!" and I forgot it was swapped with spirit temple

fresh hill
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2nd gives it the charge attack to break green barriers and 3rd gives it the ranged projectile to flip farway levers

midnight depot
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Second

weary lagoon
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id love to find dodongo

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OH

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I can enter whatever water temple is

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I was thinking "theres not much to do in water" but its a different dungeon..

midnight depot
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Is it Ganon's Castle?

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Wait no that's in there

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Fucking heat seeking volcanic rocks

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I can't dodge them no matter what I do

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Why are tunic fairies considered important?

fresh hill
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like skulltula tokens or children of moonlight, there are checks for getting 10 and 20 fairies

midnight depot
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Oh

weary lagoon
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its day 2 and I have 50 skulltulas

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oh its day 3

midnight depot
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47 for me

fresh hill
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in particular, in the vanilla game 10 fairies gets you one of the game's most important manual pages ||because it provides the biggest hints on how to read the fictional language, as well as multiple bonus riddles for other secrets||

midnight depot
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Major key for yay

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Hmm

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How do I get to that chest without getting caught by the Gerudo?

weary lagoon
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sneak up there like normally?

midnight depot
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Oh you can shoot them with arrows to stun them

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Hah, I got caught by one after a loading screen hit so I just moved on with the "halt" text active

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It had Farore's wind

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Sword Upgrade for Ixfox

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No entrance to water temple because I don't have iron boots

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Probably a good time for a hint

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@fresh hill [Hint]: FlitterOoT's Iron Boots is at The Abyss 05 - Ancient Soul x2 in Ixlily's World. (not found)

fresh hill
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welp, that's gonna need Piercing Spectral Lance

midnight depot
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Should I hint for that too?

fresh hill
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nah I should, that's a very legit hint and one of the few key EL items I don't have yet

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ah-ha, it was me all along!

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guess I'm putting off goatworld for a bit

midnight depot
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Sheik taught me bombs

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Forest temple is deku tree

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I guess I gotta do that as adult Link

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Adult link can reflect deku scrub shots!

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No skip necessary. He clears every cliff

weary lagoon
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my deku is in jabu so I cant do this

midnight depot
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With fire arrows and a hookshot and a hammer the whole dungeon is doable

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Time to fight Queen Gohma

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Oh arrows don't work on her

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Her only weakness is deku nuts

weary lagoon
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does she come down by herself eventually

midnight depot
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Yes

fresh hill
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hm, I just remembered actually getting to abyss 5 also requires a lot of healing, and I don't have any of the extra heal relics yet

midnight depot
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And for some reason I can't just jump slash her

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But stabs work

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She is dead. She had a recovery heart

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And Zora's Sapphire

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My Gerudo Card is at uh

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These are really good hints. The Async hint format is actually useful

weary lagoon
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insane hint rng

fresh hill
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and there it is

midnight depot
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Nice work

fresh hill
midnight depot
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I did the skip in Gerudo Training Ground where you wait under a silver rupee for a spectral hand to lift you up and take you away

weary lagoon
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yeah the fire temple has the most locked doors in the game

midnight depot
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Other than Gerudo Training Ground

weary lagoon
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Im done with my work prep so I can check out what the water temple is now

fresh hill
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aaaah dang it I was supposed to not pick up mega armor right away

midnight depot
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It's not a big deal because there's like forty of them

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Laurels to Tunic, Biggoron sword to me

fresh hill
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I also realized I saved seconds ago so I could just quit and reload

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so @ancient harness I've got a mega armor located when you want it

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nice, laurels are basically a short-range teleport dash, the last major movement ability in vanilla

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that probably means I can do the whole of Tunic once we get my prayer

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oooooh dang it I forgot the lance doesn't work on its own

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lol, it's still me

weary lagoon
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Water temple is Dodongos cavern

fresh hill
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plus I probably can't reach abyss 5 without healing relics anyway

weary lagoon
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this is gonna be a juicy clear

midnight depot
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Adult Link Dodongo's Cavern

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I think it's all doable with fire arrows, bombs and hookshot

weary lagoon
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I think its all doable with bombs lol

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some skulls need hookshot i guess

fresh hill
midnight depot
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I had a slingshot so this just means more ammo capacity

fresh hill
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oh well, I continue to be cursed to always do quarry backwards

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at least I'm finding good stuff already

midnight depot
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Silver scale! I need that too

weary lagoon
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wooh first boss down

fresh hill
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have an ice trap to celebrate

midnight depot
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Nice work

fresh hill
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and there it is

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man this is so much easier with orb and magic and shield and 6 estus flasks

midnight depot
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That's not what I asked for but I'll take it!

fresh hill
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remind me what extra double hookshot does in your game?

midnight depot
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Makes it long

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Can reach everywhere it's supposed to

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Much more comfortable

fresh hill
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nice

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speaking of which, the Magic Orb in Tunic is sort of a hookshot, but it can also pull you and enemies through solid walls, but it consumes part of my magic bar which is why there's a little "3" on it in my UI right there

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it's been extremely handy here in the quarry to yank all the snipers out of their usual positions

weary lagoon
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Ye I look good..

fresh hill
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and speaking of the quarry

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this save point

weary lagoon
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feeling kinda BKed rn I need the scale

fresh hill
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if you don't have the laurels this is a complete troll because there's no way to cross that one foot of water to actually save there

midnight depot
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Oh

fresh hill
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and because I don't have prayer, the first quarry save point (the one you'd use normally, i.e. not "backwards") is unavailable

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(one of my truest Soulslike experiences in a video game was doing all of quarry backwards on my first vanilla playthrough and genuinely having no idea it was backwards until after I got through it all)

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(which is why it's so funny rando keeps making me relive it)

weary lagoon
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how can they be the same ppenk

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I tried to soft reset

midnight depot
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What happens if you reboot core instead?

weary lagoon
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lose connection to the archi client and have to restart

midnight depot
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Oh

weary lagoon
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2nd hint time

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damn

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I would have liked the one I didnt already know where was

midnight depot
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Want me to Go to the spoiler file and look the other one up?

weary lagoon
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sure I think thats fair

midnight depot
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It is in Dilapidated Dungeon - Strong Eyes (Yay89nopants)

fresh hill
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she has slide so that should be no problem

weary lagoon
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@sage dawn I would like this

fresh hill
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all right, we're done with quarry for now

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ooooh, I forgot laurels gives me a way into Fortress without prayer

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I can get Artik's boomerang proabably

weary lagoon
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thanks

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that was fast

fresh hill
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laurels are stupid fast when you know the map

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that's... not one of the essential cyclops parts, right?

lament tusk
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its not, no

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useful tho

midnight depot
weary lagoon
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that stone always says that

lament tusk
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it lets you go between high and low water levels if you needed that for whatever reason

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i assume so you can get into the water temple without the tunic

midnight depot
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I'm trying to get to water temple without boots

lament tusk
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not sure you can

midnight depot
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My tracker says no

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I think it's possible but I'd need Navi to talk to me

fresh hill
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ok, I'll open up the path to Abyss in EL and then call it there for now, since that'll leave me fully prepared to jump on either Ziggurat or Abyss the moment I receive either fox prayer or the healing relics

midnight depot
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No Iron Boots today?

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In that case OoT is done. See you tomorrow!

fresh hill
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nope, your Iron Boots are in my Abyss 5, which is a room I can't reach without additional heals (Abyss 4 is a long poison mist gauntlet)

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how important was this song?

weary lagoon
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very

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refer to the tier list #1119170161518334004 message

midnight depot
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Opens up Fire Temple, Zora's Domain, a lot of small checks

fresh hill
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oh I didn't know we had a tier list

ancient harness
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wtf Prelude of Light is S tier

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Best warp in the game

midnight depot
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Personally I'd put Elegy of Emptiness in D because I hate having to do it so many times every time I need to enter Stone Tower Temple

weary lagoon
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hm

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in that game we were playing prelude of light is bad because song of soaring takes you to clock town -> castle town

fresh hill
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THERE WE GO

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probably need at least one of the other heals

midnight depot
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But on its own, Prelude of Light is great if you want to swap ages

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Adult Link can teleport there by save warping

fresh hill
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derp, also forgot about the unlock ability, need that for the abyss doors

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anyway I made it to this save point so that's my stopping point

midnight depot
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Good work

fresh hill
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61% and 53% is definitely plenty for day 3 out of 14

sage dawn
fresh hill
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I know I have one of your air kicks but I feel like you probably don't need that

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you have... cling, 1 kick, solar wind, strikebreak, 3/5 major keys, 9 health pieces, yeah that's gotta be most of the game

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I think you'd need another kick or two and/or plunge to scale the tower?

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so that's where Artiks' scale was

fresh hill
sage dawn
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Yeah I think I mainly need keys and damage. I have like no damage.

midnight depot
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You did? The scale was in yay's game

fresh hill
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"yay" was a noun, not an interjection rdsnrk

midnight depot
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Oh, you said "yay" but I read it "I"

weary lagoon
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thats so epic

fresh hill
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The YayGoat just found it

sage dawn
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Excuse me it's Yay89nopants

lament tusk
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im still either waiting for my laser cutter or third cyclops engine fragment

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or both, both is good

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i should probably hint the cyclops actually

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we set it to 12% right? or was it 10%?

midnight depot
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12%

sage dawn
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Wait I just realized that I can just use keys and then reset to last save

lament tusk
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that feels too much like cheating to me
i wont stop you tho

fresh hill
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yeah, I'm not sure if that's considered a bug or not

sage dawn
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I am now a professional

fresh hill
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in the base game if you reset after key use, then everything that happened after the key use gets reset, but (like most randomizers IME) the AP mod has to let you reset to save without wiping out recently acquired items to avoid softlocking in dead ends

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so I believe the cheaty key reuse thing is currently seen as a side effect of that, I dunno if they plan on changing it (though it's definitely not a priority)

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iirc only half the key doors are worth opening in rando anyway and they total, what, 4 checks? so it's not a big deal anyway

sage dawn
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Yeah

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I've also been using reset to save just to get around faster because of the ap changes

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It doesn't save game state though so you lose out on switches you press and stuff

fresh hill
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yep, a lot of these mods enable benchwarp at the start of the game just because the game's designed around having it eventually and that makes everyone's life easier (especially when random start could lead to you not acquiring it the normal way forever, like in Ender Lilies)

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true "crystalwarp" for Pseudo is probably overkill though, reset is plenty

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oh nice your % is already caught up to my EL

sage dawn
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I mean to be fair I have like a quarter the checks

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And yeah crystal warp would be overkill

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Oh shit @midnight depot light arrows

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Oh neat you can mega out of bubble dash

fresh hill
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I thought the bubble charge went away the moment you touched ground, how does that work?

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(if mega means ultra)

sage dawn
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Yeah ultra

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You just backflip the moment you hit the ground

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Also learned from the internet that ultras are way easier if you raise the fps cap

fresh hill
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ooooh

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will have to try that

sage dawn
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The thing I'm really bad at is going any direction but backwards lol

fresh hill
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when I get an ultra I go in what feels like a random direction

sage dawn
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Yeah

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Also please never get me ascendant light because I hate this check and it's technically out of logic on normal for me right now

fresh hill
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oh man there are so many ways to do that check

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ascendant chain on the floating enemy, cling around the corner, plunge and kick combos

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I assume it's also possible to ultra off the bridge and then do even fewer kicks but lol I'll never be able to aim that

sage dawn
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Yeah it is insane the number of ways to do it I just really hate the intended way lol

fresh hill
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yep, lunatic logic allows slide + 1 kick

sage dawn
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I hadn't figured out you could reset to save in my original playthrough so every attempt I had to go ALL the way around and it fucking sucked

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Because I kept dropping the ascendent light chain

fresh hill
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even the normal logic has seven options for this

"Castle Sansa - Floater In Courtyard": lambda state:
  self.can_bounce(state) and self.has_plunge(state)
  or self.can_bounce(state) and self.get_kicks(state, 2)
  or self.has_gem(state) and self.get_kicks(state, 2)
  or self.has_gem(state) and self.has_plunge(state)
  or self.get_kicks(state, 4)
  or self.knows_obscure(state) and self.can_bounce(state) and self.get_kicks(state, 1)
  or self.knows_obscure(state) and self.has_gem(state) and self.get_kicks(state, 1),
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oh god that does suck

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I didn't even attempt this until I had cling and/or knew about resets

sage dawn
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Does the plunge hop reset your number of clings?

fresh hill
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I think in this case the only place you can plunge is at the start from the bridge

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or wait you mean the little midair backflip

sage dawn
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Yeah

fresh hill
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I have never tried that, 6 cling climbs is already way more than enough to get the height for this (which is why higher difficulties allow cling only)

sage dawn
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Oooh I see

fresh hill
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yeah cling-only is a hard option

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not even expert

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my skill level is basically hard with maybe 1/3rd of expert because I suck at ultras lol

sage dawn
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It'd be cool if on the tracker you could set difficulty independently for green and yellow checks.

fresh hill
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that would be cool

sage dawn
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Like set green to your logic choice and yellow to whichever one above you want

fresh hill
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maybe after they they finish the logic levels I'll ask about that

sage dawn
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Yeah it is still in flux

fresh hill
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...what the heck is this logic

"Dilapidated Dungeon - Strong Eyes": lambda state:
  self.has_breaker(state)
  or self.knows_obscure(state) and self.has_gem(state) and self.kick_or_plunge(state, 2),
sage dawn
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Maybe obscure is clips?

fresh hill
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iirc clips are considered out of logic at all difficulty levels

sage dawn
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Wait but you need a small key for strong eyes without slide

fresh hill
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that's probably in the region transition logic

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oh wait I think I know what this is

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slides back to dungeon really quick

sage dawn
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Oooh I that makes sense that it'd be in region transition logic

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Okay yeah floater is way easier with cling gem lol

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Basically free

fresh hill
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ok no I have no idea what this logic is lol

sage dawn
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It took me a hot minute to realize why there are three items here

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Also like earlier I was thinking Empty Bailey has the best music but that's only because I hadn't been to Listless Library yet this run and forgot about it

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And that pust me into BK mode.

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Remaining checks are mostly locked behind one more kick. I don't think I have anything plunge locked.

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Oh and ascendant light

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Unless I want to get good at ultras

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I could hint them but I'm down to kinda just chill for a bit.

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No one's waiting on me

fresh hill
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and I already know one of your kicks is at my Tunic boss

sage dawn
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Oh god

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Guess I'm not getting that one for quite some time

fresh hill
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not final boss, the Scavenger Boss

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I've already done all of Quarry so that one is waiting on Flitter getting my Prayer ability

sage dawn
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Ooh

fresh hill
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ooh, Wcct found my goat's ascendant light and another kick

midnight depot
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Hello. It's Blasphemous time

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They fixed the puzzle where you have to take the elevator up and down five times

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Now the door opens on the first time

midnight depot
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"Feast your eyes on the envy of every merchant. The finest treasure to ever find its way into my hands."
"And may my heart stop beating if I'm being dishonest."

midnight depot
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I sent myself a... third ocarina?

lament tusk
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Tri-weilding ocarinas, nice

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Also I've been having PC issues all weekend and just sent mine in for repair
In theory I should have it back tomorrow but...

midnight depot
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Good luck!

lament tusk
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I think my gpu has been overheating so they're gonna replace the thermal paste or something

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But it might be something else

fresh hill
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nice, haven't even finished receiving items and I already found a Cyclops part

midnight depot
lament tusk
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I think that's the last part I need
Fuck

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Oh no, I've had 4 Hull fragments
I need 3

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...why?

fresh hill
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is "Bow" for Artiks as important as it sounds?

lament tusk
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4 Hull, 4 Bridge, 2 engine
Sigh

midnight depot
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Only the first bow is important but I think that's the last item Artiks needs to finish the game

lament tusk
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Lol

midnight depot
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[Hint]: FlitterBlasph's Mirrored Mask of Dolphos is at Bottom of the Well Like Like Chest in FlitterOoT's World at Kakariko Village -> Bottom of the Well. (not found)

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The last item I need to finish Blasphemous

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And for that, I need [Hint]: FlitterOoT's Song of Storms is at Fire Temple Volvagia Heart in FlitterOoT's World at DMC Fire Temple Entrance -> Fire Temple Lower. (not found)

fresh hill
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sweet, got two of my yellow squares with ultras

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it's hard to tell but I think uncapping the framerate did make it easier

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tracker says red, but this feels possible cocothink

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hahaha I didn't even use my second kick and got it first try

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I did start with a super though so that'll probably be in expert when they finish the logic levels

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did you need one of these?

lament tusk
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Oooh that's awesome

fresh hill
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and that's BK at 78%, not even a yellow square left

lament tusk
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That basically let's me not worry about power while I'm in my cyclops

fresh hill
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I think the rest of these checks are all waiting on either Sunsetter (high jump + ground pound) or a 3rd Air Kick

lament tusk
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I have all the good upgrades! I can go all the way to the sea empress and probably get the cure
...once I get an engine fragment

fresh hill
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hint time?

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I have a lot of green squares in EL and Tunic

lament tusk
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I need to load up subnautica to use that hint

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And my PC is being repaired

fresh hill
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it won't work in the Text Client?

lament tusk
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I don't have one

fresh hill
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I guess I get more out of the Text Client when I'm the odd one playing 3 different games

lament tusk
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Subnautica is a mod, just put the mod in and in the start menu there's an extra text box I use to log in
It's super simple, it's great

fresh hill
#

yup, a lot of the non-ROM AP games are similarly simple

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ah, so that one is also me waiting on myself

midnight depot
#

You can open the text client for any game if you have the generic archipelago client installed

fresh hill
#

how badly do you need Iron Boots? (I'm still not certain I can reach them even after I go get unlock)

midnight depot
#

Not necessary

#

I think I can finish the game without them but they give me a whole dungeon

fresh hill
#

all right, I'll stop at just BK'ing Pseudo for the time being until the average completion passes me again

midnight depot
#

It says "Grab" but when I press it Link rolls

#

Probably need a gauntlet upgrade

#

And I also need hoverboots.

#

Ganon is not going to be any time soon because beating the fire trial is a requirement

lament tusk
#

Yes you need gold gauntlets

#

Which I think means 3 strength upgrades total

midnight depot
#

Thanks for the golden scale

#

The tracker says I can get Ledge Piece of Heart in the Graveyard

#

But I'm not sure how I can do it without beans

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Oh it's a hookshot clip

lament tusk
#

You have longshot?

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Yeah

ancient harness
#

Another bow for artiks

midnight depot
#

Ice cavern is Dodongo's cavern

#

So I guess I have to do it as adult link

#

Hint: I don't even know

fresh hill
#

oh, that's my true ending item

#

or... oh wait it's probably the lore note explaining the true ending item

#

yeah the actual item is called Luminant Aegis Curio

#

so don't worry about that hint

midnight depot
#

Dodongo's Cavern is so much easier as adult link

lament tusk
#

Yep

midnight depot
#

It helps that biggoron sword deals four times the damage

lament tusk
#

Oh if you have that it's barely even an inconvenience

ancient harness
#

TIL Archviles die to 4 berserk punches

midnight depot
#

And he goes down in two hits

#

Berserk damage in doom is highly variable. Can be anything from 20 to 200 a hit

#

Archviles have 700HP, so you need to be very lucky to get them in four hits

weary lagoon
#

Good evening

#

lets see if I got any good items

#

beans!

#

i got some nice items

weary lagoon
midnight depot
#

Nice

weary lagoon
#

when flitter said short run I wasnt thinking 4 days hmmm

midnight depot
#

Should have done more dungeons then

weary lagoon
#

but beating Ganon with 2 dungeons down is funny

midnight depot
#

True

weary lagoon
#

time to go to zoras domain!

#

I assume not everyone is in go mode ppenk

midnight depot
#

I need a bunch of things still

#

You're free to keep playing until you're done with the game, at which point you can do !release manually

weary lagoon
#

no way

#

releasing half my checks whats the point of that..

#

im not allowed to buy this

midnight depot
#

Oh

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Are you Adult Link?

weary lagoon
#

no

midnight depot
#

You can only buy tunics as adult Link

weary lagoon
#

ah..

midnight depot
#

I don't have a bottle nor ice arrows

weary lagoon
#

no bottle or ice arrows..

#

odd

midnight depot
#

Ah well, I'll come back to it later

#

Water Temple is Water Temple

#

Without Iron Boots I can only reach parts of it

weary lagoon
#

bean in lost woods, death mountain, kakariko, and desert

#

am I missing any i need to plant..

midnight depot
#

You want to put a bug in every soil location anyway for the skulltulas

weary lagoon
#

ye but I did that before I got beans

midnight depot
#

Oh okay

#

That's all the obligatory ones

sage dawn
#

There's a glitch you can do to unfreeze him that's not too hard, but I don't know the setup with him moved.

#

It's easier if he hasn't moved.

midnight depot
#

Oh neat

#

I have no idea how to get any checks in water temple without iron boots so I'm going to leave it for now

sage dawn
weary lagoon
#

Every time I get one of those play the right song prompts with the notesheet it says "Play the Nocturne of Shadows!" which is very funny

sage dawn
#

Lol

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Text randomizer is fun

weary lagoon
#

sometimes fun but with all the item gets giving long text boxes it kinda sucks

midnight depot
#

That's why I play the game at 400% speed

sage dawn
#

Yeah

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And unless they changed it it can make it really hard to tell who an item is actually for

#

Which is more a problem in normal OoT multiworld

#

And less a problem in AP

weary lagoon
#

I see a song for flitter or an ice trap

midnight depot
#

Both are good

weary lagoon
#

ice cavern is fire temple

#

good thing I can complete all of it because this would suck to backtrack to

#

Hey yay899 do I have to talk to all the gorons in the fire temple or is that optional

sage dawn
#

Optional

#

Unlike the carpenters they know how to leave an open cell

weary lagoon
#

one more question

#

does the biggoron sword deal more damage to Ganondorf than the master sword

sage dawn
#

Yeah, but not to ganon

fresh hill
#

(admittedly I've been in go mode for EL's bad ending for a long time now rdsnrk)

midnight depot
#

And I'm fighting the optional NG+ bosses in Blasphemous because I'm waiting on my one item

fresh hill
#

what was yours? (WotHP not reachable?)

midnight depot
#

Need the last mask

fresh hill
#

right, dolphos

midnight depot
#

Aubade of the Nameless Guardian is a really nice spell

#

Shame you only get it after you have no more need for spells

fresh hill
#

I got it early in rando once, but I didn't have enough fervour to cast it until I had other spells lol

midnight depot
#

It appears to be the best boss killer spell if the boss stands there and lets you hit them

fresh hill
#

wait derp my EL is already in go mode for normal ending too

#

but considering how quickly this has gone I'm probably gonna aim for 100%s and my true endings, which in EL means 2 more "Stone Tablet Fragments"

#

and for Tunic... if I counted that right, I'm missing 6 of the "Pages X-Y" items

midnight depot
#

Second Amanecida is down

#

These fights are not easy

fresh hill
#

(the Tunic AP mod has an impending update with entrance rando, so my tentative plan for next time is to do Tunic with no guaranteed start weapon, entrance rando, and enemy rando; that'll definitely slow me down)

weary lagoon
#

I think this leaves GTG being GTG

#

I wrote water twice thats on me thats on me

midnight depot
#

Makes sense

weary lagoon
#

thats enough for now

#

Ganon + 2 dungeons + a lot of overworld

midnight depot
#

I figured it out

#

There's a skip where you shoot your longshot into a submerged torch to get to the bottom east level

#

Which then allows you to drain the temple

midnight depot
#

This should be all I can do for OoT. See you when I get new things

weary lagoon
#

Hello

#

any big items today?

midnight depot
#

I have a few checks left, and I suspect we'll stay that way until the next weekend or whenever Meganought gets his computer back

weary lagoon
#

He lost his computer? thats unfortunate

#

I still have stuff to do but not sure how much outside of half water

lament tusk
#

I should get it back tomorrow
They told me it should be ready today, yesterday
And then forgot to mention how busy they were
So it might not be tomorrow

ancient harness
#

Big BK for me until someone finds maps

fresh hill
#

I might sweep another region of Ender Lilies this evening, but in Tunic I'll probably wait until Flitter can get my prayer (unless someone gets a hint for something I can reach), and my goat was BK'd last I checked

lament tusk
#

It's OK tho I'm just sitting here
Doing nothing
All day

weary lagoon
#

im about to kill Shadow Link hes gonna have a map for sure

#

he actually had a seaglide fragment

fresh hill
#

actually, Flitter, I know you needed dolphos mask to finish, but did you need something else to clear WotHP?

midnight depot
#

I need the bronze key

fresh hill
#

ah

#

and that's not been hinted, okay

lament tusk
midnight depot
#

Generally the reason for this sort of behavior is that the item is so important you can't play the game without it, but you also run into situations where you can't find it

fresh hill
#

a lot of randos like to add extra Xs when there's an important "get N of X" goal, so you a) don't necessarily need to 100% your game, and b) to reduce the chances of a long BK chain where everyone's stuck on everyone else

#

same as how when the base game already has an optional N of X goal, like Gold Skulltula Tokens or Children of Moonlight or Tunic's Fairies, there's usually an option to put filler items on getting all of them

midnight depot
#

Also see OoT where you can customize the number of Triforce pieces you find

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If you make it so all triforce pieces need to be found, you're not finishing the game until you're nearly 100% done with every check

fresh hill
#

and some other Zelda randomizers have a "Triforce Hunt" mode that scatters several pieces around the map but doesn't require getting all of them; Tunic has a similar "Hexagon Quest" mode partially as a reference to that (which I will finally try if I'm able to bring entrance rando next time)

weary lagoon
#

the focus map 04 blue keycard

weary lagoon
#

bk time coolcat

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@fresh hill

fresh hill
#

s/might/will

weary lagoon
#

I dont understand

fresh hill
#

I will sweep another region of Ender Lilies, since (the rest of) Witch's Thicket was the obvious next place for me to go and also where hints said my Unlock is waiting

weary lagoon
#

with hover boots I can get 21 whole checks in shadow temple

fresh hill
#

hover boots ETA ~4 hours rdsnrk

midnight depot
#

I have no idea where my shadow temple is but

#

It must be in an adult Link dungeon

weary lagoon
#

mine is in forest

midnight depot
#

The only dungeon left for me that Adult Link can access is Spirit Temple

#

So it must be there

#

Otherwise it's in bottom of the well and I have to do it as Child Link?

#

Let's play. I bet I can get a couple of checks

weary lagoon
#

i think the well is open for adult link on entrance rando

#

after you enter as kid

midnight depot
#

I finally figured out the graveyard box

#

Turns out you just need to stand farther away. No clip needed

#

Time to try the unfreeze king zora trick

#

He had a deku stick!

#

I did the trade item method

#

Hmm, without iron boots I can't get the Gerudo Training Ground toilet check

weary lagoon
#

thanks a lot for the stick!

midnight depot
midnight depot
#

I got myself a bottle!

#

Lots of spots lit up. Probably all bug skulltulas

ancient harness
#

There's gotta be at least one map in those....

midnight depot
#

I found my hover boots there so that's like

#

One more check

midnight depot
#

Oh!

#

Dodongo's Cavern leads to spirit temple, but the spirit temple's other exits lead to desert colossus!

#

Which means I also have access to shadow temple

#

This one bottle had so much behind it

fresh hill
#

right, Ender Lilies time

midnight depot
#

The sale is up and Pseudoregalia is not even on sale

#

I guess I'm not grabbing it until there's a sale

fresh hill
#

@weary lagoon

#

oooh someone found my hook

#

so... yep that's every EL movement ability (except the one I haven't gotten myself yet)

#

ok that's Witch's Thicket "done" (aside from the one item being saved for Wcct)

#

let's see if I have enough upgrades to make it to abyss 5

#

nope, barely even made it to the swimming part; definitely need at least one of the other healing relics to survive this

#

not like I'll ever need to hint anything else in this game so might as well

ancient harness
#

Can't believe nobody's found a backpack

fresh hill
#

well I can definitely get the stockade one

#

I forget if Flitter has enough to do the black egg thing yet

midnight depot
#

Do not

#

Blasphemous is in BK mode

#

The fan section in Shadow Temple is surprisingly difficult without iron boots

fresh hill
#

oh right, the cells are numbered weirdly so some of them are Stockade 07_X instead of 05_X, I'm still in the right place

midnight depot
#

I found my own golden gauntlets

#

Pretty sure that means go mode for Zelda

#

Thank you for Ruto's Letter!

fresh hill
#

there, let's try this again

#

...I forgot there were mines at the end of this poison gauntlet

midnight depot
#

Need more healing then?

fresh hill
#

maybe

#

I'm still making dumb mistakes so not quite sure yet

#

yeah I do need the third heal

#

(in vanilla this is meant to be the hardest room to reach)

midnight depot
#

Shadow temple boss has bongoed his last bongo

ancient harness
#

It's great to go into 30 and dying so all the infinite ammo respawns.

midnight depot
#

Smart

ancient harness
#

If you go in after you've beaten Romero, he's still spawning stuff

#

Actually, I should check if his head is still intact and it's just the spawning mechanism

#

Heh. His head is intact and it's immune to damage. Can't beat the level more than once

midnight depot
#

Volvagia had song of storms

#

Which means I can finally access bottom of the well

ancient harness
#

So many checks down there

midnight depot
#

And they're fast checks too if you know what you're doing

#

Ixgoat air kick

fresh hill
#

that might be go mode for goat

midnight depot
#

But I can't reach it

fresh hill
#

ah looks like I still need a 5th major key

#

but that is enough to climb the tower

midnight depot
#

Oh but wait

#

No, nevermind

#

Why is the five froggish tenors minigame so hard?

ancient harness
#

Bro you just play the notes...

midnight depot
#

Yeah but if I wait even a moment they just leave

#

I'm playing it with an analog stick which means I easily make directional mistakes

fresh hill
#

...huh, (Pseudoregalia) Center Steeple turned green on normal with 4 kicks and no plunge? how does that work izzywhat

#

I know I can do reverse wall kicks there but that's not normal

weary lagoon
midnight depot
#

Let's finish Blasphemous

#

I wish the game remembered your connection information

#

Every time I have to type

fresh hill
#

yeah, I wish more of these mods made the effort to remove that step

#

several of them do but it feels like overall it's maybe about half of them

#

(Pseudoregalia gets a pass since it's still in an alpha state and has more important gaps to fix)

#

even if you can't make a fancy in-game UI for it, there's always a config file; Tunic relies on you editing a JSON file but after that you never have to do an extra step to reconnect

midnight depot
#

Still no kamehameha

#

TIL you can kill escribar phase one in three lorquiana shots

fresh hill
#

nice

#

I keep not getting lorquiana and then forget to use it when I finally do

ancient harness
#

I found my own backpack where the first SSG is

#

Perfect match

#

Found Flitter's minuet

midnight depot
#

Excellent

#

[root at 2023-11-21 20:14:01,503]: Notice (all): FlitterBlasph (Team #1) has completed their goal.

fresh hill
#

that's one way to get my item

midnight depot
#

I don't want to play Blasphemous any more for now so I'm releasing

#

I'm still going to play OoT

fresh hill
#

let's give this another try now that I have the earrings

midnight depot
#

I got three songs and they all take me to random spots in Hyrule Market

fresh hill
#

phew, finally

midnight depot
#

Oh thanks

#

Oh I didn't find MY golden gauntlets. I found Artiks's

#

In that case nevermind. I'll do more OoT tomorrow

haughty solstice
#

Explain to me exactly how this place works

midnight depot
#

Okay!

#

I wrote a guide in the pins, here: #1119170161518334004 message but here's the sales pitch first

fresh hill
#

using the https://archipelago.gg/ software, and various mods for each supported game, we set up a randomizer that shuffles items from one game to another so we all effectively play together and find each other's stuff

#

oh whoops Flitter's got it covered

midnight depot
#

You play a randomizer of your choice, at your own pace, but the randomizer takes your items and sorts them randomly in every participating player's games, instead of only yours

#

Whenever you find an item in your world, it can be your item or someone else's item. If it's someone else's item, you automatically send it to them, and when they play next they'll get that item

#

The goal is to for every player to win the game they randomized

#

You can find the current game here #1119170161518334004 message

weary lagoon
#

Ixrec after pinging me about my hover boots while I was at the gym

#

my hover boots makes king zora noises 👍

midnight depot
#

Oh no

#

Zora leather boots

weary lagoon
#

wow my gerudo card

#

flitter can you help me with this hint

fresh hill
#

did you run out of hint points?

midnight depot
#

Yes hold on

#

The hint you're trying to type is probably !hint Shadow Temple GS Near Ship

#

(that's the one that requires longshot and ocarina)

midnight depot
weary lagoon
#

he doesnt need that im sure

ancient harness
#

Yeah that's just money

weary lagoon
#

@midnight depot found your gold skulltula!

weary lagoon
#

BK mode chip_woddlecool

fresh hill
#

I guess Effigy Skip is a thing, but I have plenty of those and I already did West Gardens anyway

midnight depot
#

Hi

#

With iron boots I can do water temple

midnight depot
#

Artiks's forest temple key ring

#

The biggest downside of doing the dark link fight late is he has tons of HP

#

And I found my boomerang, 80% of the way into the seed!

fresh hill
#

omg so many Tunic items, let me play the game flutterwaaaugh

midnight depot
#

Should I collect in blasphemous?

#

I'm still not sure what's more courteous

#

Removing checks from everyone's automated trackers or keeping checks for people who like completionism

fresh hill
#

I guess it depends on whether the other games are capable of picking up on already collected items and not showing them

#

last time when chip did it none of mine were aware of it so the collect did not allow me to skip any checks

#

are you serious

#

it was here the whole time

lament tusk
#

Whelp

fresh hill
#

behind that blue chest I opened prematurely and blocked myself from getting here until I had teleport even though it's a green square

midnight depot
#

999 wallet for Artiks

fresh hill
#

well I'm never making THAT mistake again

lament tusk
#

I couldn't use it till tomorrow anyway, but that unlocks... basically all if the game

midnight depot
#

The key in bottom of the well was Water Temple boss key for Artiks

fresh hill
#

cool, that was Stone Tablet Fragment 5/7

#

might actually get all my true endings at this rate

weary lagoon
#

piccolo all of them?!

fresh hill
#

found my other hexagon

#

oh, there was another of yay's air kicks in my world

#

guess there's little point going after that boss now

midnight depot
#

Stop giving me items. Princess Ruto hates it when I drop her

weary lagoon
#

she doesnt like when you carry her either

fresh hill
#

good news is, this next check should take a minute

midnight depot
#

She looks like she's having fun in the gif

fresh hill
#

literally one minute

#

(not counting time to take the screenshot)

#

78%, good stopping point

midnight depot
#

Well done

#

That's Barinade and Morpha done

#

Two bosses left

fresh hill
#

my fox is extremely overpowered

#

I knew this guy had nothing important, it's just fun to pummel him when the properly balanced fight took me dozens of attempts

ancient harness
#

Huh. First time I find a key for a map inside the map

midnight depot
#

You can make it so all your keys are local by writing that in the YAML

#

Um

#

[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Small Key Ring (Fire Temple) is at Fire Temple Boulder Maze Shortcut Chest in FlitterOoT's World at DMC Fire Temple Entrance -> Fire Temple Lower. (not found)

fresh hill
#

did you do accessibility: items?

midnight depot
#

Oh, looking at the spoiler log, I set accessibility to minimal and the small key ring, as well as three skulltula tokens, are marked unreachable

#

Ah well

weary lagoon
midnight depot
#

[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Gerudo Membership Card is at Northern Blood Kelp Zone Sanctuary - Alien Data Terminal in submega's World. (not found)

#

I guess I'm not reaching that last dungeon until tomorrow, but when you get around to it I'd like this check @lament tusk

lament tusk
#

There's an alien data terminal in blood kelp? Huh
I'll fund it, dw
Tomorrow

midnight depot
#

Landstalker is getting added to archipelago soon
#1096442606298345644 message

weary lagoon
#

im playing oot and wind waker next month

midnight depot
#

Sounds fun

#

I'm thinking of doing an OoT run with a twist

fresh hill
#

I'm probably going to do Tunic with much harder settings and AHiT, might stop there, might not

weary lagoon
#

whats the twist

midnight depot
#

I'll decide when it's December

#

Right now I have several ideas which all involved looking at the YAML and carefully writing things in

weary lagoon
#

random dungeons is already a big twist

#

but you could turn on master quest dungeons

midnight depot
#

Yep. That's one of the ideas

#

I also want to fix the problem where you can somehow generate bad warp song combinations

#

I might write my own script to randomly decide on a fixed set of warp song locations

midnight depot
#

I bought Pseudoregalia

#

It "works"

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I figured it out

#

My CPU's getting angry when it sees too many particles or when my character model interacts with a wall. Fix: Lower the resolution so it's less angry

#

The "Retro resolution scale" Doesn't seem to affect performance though

midnight depot
#

Workaround did not work while fighting the boss. I'm asking for a refund until I have a better computer, so I probably will not be playing it in Archipelago later

midnight depot
#

I got a refund for the game and kept a DRM-free copy of it I can test whenever my hardware changes. Eventually I'll be able to buy it again

weary lagoon
#

How did you get a purple name?

fresh hill
#

rolled 100

lament tusk
#

i got my green name by rolling a 1

weary lagoon
#

any big items today?

lament tusk
#

i have my computer back, but i wont be free to play for a few more hours. today is a busy day for me unfortunatly

fresh hill
#

speaking of the upcoming not-so-short game, how do people feel about bringing accessibility: minimal yamls to this group?

#

since any one player doing that means anyone might have some items they expected to be found or at least eventually findable that turn out to be actually unreachable without hacks, I figure I should ask first

fierce vale
#

it doesn't really change much

#

i've finished a bunch of games with plenty that i expected to recieve

#

does it mark spoiler'd items as "unreachable" if you search em?

weary lagoon
#

its not a big deal but does mean that very nice optional items can get locked out like biggoron sword

fierce vale
#

hint'd*

midnight depot
#

Does minimal accessibility make it so other people who have not set it lose items? In my case it only locked out my own items and junk items for others behind the locked area

fresh hill
#

good question, I just assumed it could be anyone's stuff that gets "lost" but I don't actually know

midnight depot
#

The spoiler log contains a list of unreachable items, which we can use to double check if anything valuable is lost

fierce vale
#

its something we should look up, but from my point of view, the only real complaint i'd have is if i hinted something and it turned out the answer was "no", and i ended up having to use another hint as a result

fresh hill
#

I think Flitter hit exactly that case in fire temple the other day?

midnight depot
#

Yeah I can just publish a list of unreachable items at the start of a game

fierce vale
#

🤘

fresh hill
#

works for me

fierce vale
#

dumbtiktok brb making 10 "minimal" "death wish only" hatty time runs next rando

fresh hill
#

I am genuinely tempted to do all minimals next time

#

which is why I wanted to ask first, that likely means a lot more "lost items" than before

fierce vale
#

paissapretty i enjoy completing things to much to do minimal, its relaxing

midnight depot
#

When I did it this time I expected to do half the game or something. It only locked out fire temple

fresh hill
#

yeah, minimal is only a lack of guarantees, it doesn't actively try to minimize anything

midnight depot
#

I assume it needed the room to put other players' games in distinct spheres

weary lagoon
#

you want less game in the month long session?

fresh hill
#

I want harder game

#

like a Pseudoregalia where I never get a cling gem, or a Tunic where I never get the sword upgrades

midnight depot
#

In this case I did minimal because it's a shorter session

weary lagoon
#

im gonna go do the forest temple!

midnight depot
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Have fun

fresh hill
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I mean if we're worried about too little game I could bring four minimal games next time rdwut

lament tusk
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alrighty, looks like im free. im supposed to be doing something else but it can wait. i've been away from my pc for like 4 days, i wanna play a game properly.

fierce vale
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is there a proper map in pseudoregalia now

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last i checked they were adding one

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or at least in the archipelago mod

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cus i might run it this time if so, hatty time+pseudoregalia+ hollow knight maybe? i kinda want 3

midnight depot
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The tracker has one

fresh hill
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no in-game map

fierce vale
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if not, i might try getting pokemon emerald working again, since i did enjoy my emerald run, if not that then idk what my third thing should be, maybe just ds3 again, since i've got that game down to completeing it in a "short" game amount of time UraWheeze

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twicrazy that makes my choice harder, i probably shouldnt go for the legendary 4 game rando

midnight depot
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Doom

fierce vale
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rdsnrk the original doom was fun, but not like, "replay over and over" fun

midnight depot
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Doom 1 sucks. I wish the randomizer had support for custom maps. Doom 2 seems better but I'll have to try it (unless Wcctnoam can share his experience)

ancient harness
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I'd enjoy both I just know Doom 2 and all the secrets better.

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Doom 2 rando is a challenge of your own information storage, your skill and your resource management

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Most of the time just the third one

fierce vale
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paissapretty i have far to much adhd to have information storage *and8 resource management, let alone one

weary lagoon
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I just got the "longshot" silver rupee with the normal hookshot @fierce vale @midnight depot just so you know

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in GTG

fierce vale
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how?

weary lagoon
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a good angle?

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it just reaches ppenk

fierce vale
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ppenk i tried directly above me and it didn't

weary lagoon
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well this is directly under

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he cant aim straight up

fierce vale
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snarfexplain i spent like 5 minutes trying that, how did i fuck it up

midnight depot
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Yeah I thought you could get it but didn't know you had to be specifically positioned

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Either way the skip is useful when you have no hookshot yet

fresh hill
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(I'm still sitting on that mega armor if you need it lurk)

midnight depot
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Armor is not that useful in a high velocity game like Doom

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Just pick it up

ancient harness
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Yeah it doesn't matter anymore now that I have everything except the plasma rifle

fresh hill
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figured that'd happen

ancient harness
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In the beginning an invicibiliyu or megasphere at a moment of my choice would've been huge

fresh hill
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that's my main goal for next time: spend much less of each game in that "I have so much stuff I steamroll everything" mode

midnight depot
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Yeah. Armor specifically tends to run out fast but you also get it back fast

ancient harness
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Can always pick a game that doesn't get easier

fresh hill
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not sure any of my games work like that

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AHiT's probably the closest since you have all the core movement from the start, and the later upgrades are mostly situational

weary lagoon
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magic beans for flitter!!

midnight depot
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I was hoping for those

fresh hill
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though getting Magic Orb long before any ranged weapons was pretty fun in Tunic

midnight depot
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So I don't have to do megaflip to colossus heart piece

fresh hill
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yanking enemies into sword range was not a common tactic in my past playthroughs

fierce vale
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yeah, the only thing that really changes movement in hatty time is the no bonk badge, which all the movement isn't technically intended

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and umbrella so you can do combat easier

fresh hill
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or if you're actually good at the game and can do SDJs, DSJs and TSJs once you get the S hat

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but I'm not

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(in fact I forgot what an SDJ is ppenk)

fierce vale
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twicrazy whats the one that requires (?) 30 fps

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i got good at that one because a bunch of custom maps required it

fresh hill
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I do not remember the framerate dependent glitches

lament tusk
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big bote finally unlocked, with this bad boy i dont need to worry about basically anything else

fierce vale
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its the sdj

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at the very least people used to think it was 30 fps only, tech for it may have changed since i got good at it

fresh hill
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I do know someone found a way to do hookshotless Finale without DSJ, so that's feasible for me maybe

lament tusk
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wait shit i need modification station blueprints to go really deep, thats where the depth module upgrades are crafted. i thought i could just use the cyclops's crafter
hecc

midnight depot
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Hint

lament tusk
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well this is still a huge upgrade for me

weary lagoon
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thats all my checks for today

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and with 91% completion there isnt much left

lament tusk
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steady on, i havent even done any checks yet. i've just been bulding the cyclops

weary lagoon
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thats also counting a bunch of shop items im not buying so its more like 5% left

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95% without longshot pretty crazy

fresh hill
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I'm probably gonna focus on another Tunic area or two today

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that's the game I really want to 100% so that I'm ready to brave its entrance rando when that comes out

fresh hill
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I feel like I found at least one of the pieces for that

lament tusk
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alright i think im done building stuff and can finally explore lol

fresh hill
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as soon as I finish catching up on the MYM chatter I'll get back to my games

fresh hill
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today's first item is a keycard for wcct, good start

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wow all of wcct's stuff was in the swamp/graveyard

ancient harness
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In true Doom fashion

fresh hill
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was this one of the things Mega needed? I forget what the moonpool is

lament tusk
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it is needed but i already built it
thanks tho

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now THAT i did need, thanks

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i dont know if arti needed a bomb bag but i found one for him

weary lagoon
midnight depot
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You can Ctrl+f the log for bomb bags

lament tusk
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what log?

midnight depot
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It's in the game room (only shows on desktop browsers)

lament tusk
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oooh

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oh right, arti finished oot ppenk

fresh hill
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and the final progression item hidden in the magical secret pocket dimension is... prawn?

lament tusk
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underwater power suit

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i already built one

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but thanks

ancient harness
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Strange. I launched the game and told me I didn't get anything since last time, but I knew this was patently false. And indead I have pretty much everything unlocked now, but there was no notifications

lament tusk
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i know i've unlocked some stuff for you, mostly some ammo

fresh hill
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also some keycards and maps and computer maps from me

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ok, last 9% of Tunic, let's just do all of this

ancient harness
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Alright. I'm 3 or 4 keycards away from finishing and I only have 10 checks left in the came

fresh hill
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15 checks left in Tunic

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I believe only 2 are blocked on items in someone else's world

midnight depot
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The path to desert colossus for child link is so annoying

fresh hill
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that's probably yay's final goat kick

midnight depot
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From spawn, I have to go through lost woods, through goron city, through the entrance to dodongo's cavern, and through spirit temple climbing up until I reach the hand exit

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It's the only way to reach desert colossus

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Mirror shield for Artiks

ancient harness
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I wonder what colour it is

fresh hill
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appropriate place to find this

ancient harness
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lol
lmao even

fresh hill
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yep, the items for my 2 blocked checks are not in my foxworld

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final boss time

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also, because this is partially a Soulslike, the final boss is ||a very big fox with a very big sword, and lots of poison sweetiedumbfabric||

midnight depot
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Twinrova had the goron ruby, meaning I can finally get Artiks's golden scales

fresh hill
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man I'm rusty at this, but that's Tunic finished

midnight depot
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Well done

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Meanwhile I'm bored so I'm doing the armos clip to get into Ganon's tower without needing to do trials

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It's deceptively simple

fresh hill
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yay probably has everything by now

midnight depot
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Yeah, I have the light arrows so I'm going to finish the game

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Thanks for the Gerudo Membership Card!

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The final boss fight is so much easier with the biggoron sword

fresh hill
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@sage dawn

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that'll probably be the last go mode

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for Ender Lilies I feel like doing a quick sweep of one more area then actually finish; after all the beta testing I did I'm less interested in (re-)100%ing this one

fresh hill
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nice, in this last area I'm doing on a whim I found a few bugs with the poptracker pack to report

weary lagoon
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nicely done finishing oot, flitter

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its quite a game

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took me one and a half month the 2nd last time I played it

midnight depot
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Thanks

weary lagoon
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one of these days ill need your help testing wind waker

fresh hill
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welp, I appear to have discovered a very serious bug with the EL AP mod

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looks like 20 checks got lost to the void

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definitely no point trying for a higher % now, so I think I'll go finish the game

midnight depot
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Oh, how did that happen?

fresh hill
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so the Ender Lilies randomizer is implemented as a LiveSplit plugin(?) thing (no idea why)

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and LiveSplit appears to have silently frozen/crashed in the background while I was playing

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and as we've just discovered the mod currently does not have any recovery logic to check that the save file matches the AP state

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the devs are now aware of this

midnight depot
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Livesplit?!

fresh hill
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I know, right?

midnight depot
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This is unconscionable -- downright monstrous

fresh hill
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also turns out this is another final boss that's actually kinda hard when I don't have 100% of the upgrades ppenk

midnight depot
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I mean, I can understand automated speedrun loading time removers being on livesplit

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What are you gonna do about the final boss? Cheat some of the upgrades back in?

fresh hill
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oh no it's nowhere near that bad

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this isn't even as hard as it was in vanilla

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I just have to try slightly

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(and throughout this playthrough I've deliberately not killed every boss, so the adaptive difficulty isn't maxed out either)

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and it's down

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if I counted right and it was 20 checks lost, that makes my real completion 80%, which I'm happy with

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so only my goat is left, and that might as well wait until I've got the last major key

sage dawn
fresh hill
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np

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async is async

sage dawn
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Sorry for not playing for the last few days. Kinda forgot because I haven't been pinged in a while and had very few checks left

fresh hill
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which is fine in a two week async, especially with a small game

midnight depot
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Yeah, it's all right. In the future do you want me to remind you regularly?

lament tusk
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ok! i have cured my disease, all thats left is 7 checks, disarm the gun and build a spaceship
that shouldnt be too hard

fresh hill
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that's, what, a thousand purple science? /s

midnight depot
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I really wonder if Factorio would be fun in AP

fresh hill
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there are a number of games I don't get the appeal of in AP, like The Witness and Factorio, but clearly some do

lament tusk
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damnit, i just travelled for like 20 mins from the lowest point of the map to the highest, and missed grabbing a single nickle

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and i need a single sulphur

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sigh

fresh hill
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oh right, Subnautica doesn't have fast travel

lament tusk
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its an exploration game

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and it does have fast travel... kinda...

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but thats technically spoilers? also incredibly unhelpfully designed

lament tusk
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are you kidding me

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i have everything i need to build the rocket, the launch pad, rocket engines, fuel reserves and the cockpit.
uh
you also need the cantry to actually be able to board the rocket

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...what? its in my world? but i've gotten every check???

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oh im missing a few
theres literally a thing telling you where the nearest check is and it went ages ago so thats weird

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whatever, i know where they alla re now

fresh hill
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oooh 95%

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wait

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Item Amount Order Received
Gun 1 281

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lol someone finally found my fox gun

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that's another thing the randomizer gods never want me to have in Tunic for some reason

lament tusk
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oh yeah i found that a while ago

midnight depot
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La Mulana has a gun and it's the most busted weapon in the game

fresh hill
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if they keep not giving it to me I might do a start_inventory: gun run one of these days

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it's normally a late-game weapon for a reason

lament tusk
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well i mean i could have gotten it... 3 days ago probably, but pc problems

fresh hill
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sure, or it could've been anywhere else in the multiworld

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that's why we joke about randomizer gods

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I guess what I really want is to get any of the ranged weapons early, and no melee weapons early, but I'm not sure that's a thing I can say in the yaml

lament tusk
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ok i swear this databox is bugged.

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i have one last check in the game, its the alst thing i need to complete it but its just called "Underwater Islands Wreck - Pipes Databox 1" and that describes nothing