#Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer
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Neat!
Hint: Grave sun song is dream breaker for yay https://i.imgur.com/xxlaVKy.png
Hint: Gerudo Training Ground is replaced with Ice Cavern
That's all the checks I can do for now
Blasphemous time. The three agonies are dead
Bomb bag to me!
TIL this area color shifts certain enemies https://i.imgur.com/QR1V8MB.png
And my ocarina!
Artiks's iron boots
Lantern for Tunic
Ruto's Letter for Artiks
This area is all bangers
wow those are pretty good items
Nocturne of Shadows for me
Magic echo. That sounds important
Also bone card, a couple of notes,
A blue questagon
That's everything
No that's everything I can get in Blasphemous
hm… pretty sure my fox needs Prayer to reach that area
Flitter, find Ixrecs prayer
nice, that lets me explore Dark Tomb
Roger
the three hexagons are your game completion keys in Tunic; the game never uses an English word for them iirc but somewhere in the code they’re called Questagons so the randomiser uses that
ok, time to play more of my games
Have fun
yup
let's at least clear all of Catacombs this session now that I can go places
oh someone even found my swim
right, the biggest thing left for my EL world then is Piercing Spectral Lance to reach the final boss
no laser cutter still
Flitter finally has the power of blue candles
wcct i need you to get the chaingun in map 8, it gives me the entire aroura and damn near every other wreck
i guess im still the most ahead so theres no priority
Shield!
now my fox is unstoppable

this is why I like to priority_locations boss fights
found yay's cling gem, so that game's basically done /s
always nice when Siegrid drops something valuable
all right, 1% to 42% feels acceptable for one session 
Holy hell, SSG
omg so many Tunic items it's still not done
also I forgot the Fool Traps sometimes make you a bobble head
in true Zelda style, Artik's strength upgrade was hidden behind a waterfall
Saria's Song, was that one of the important ones?
ah yes, those pesky laser security grids you always find in ancient tombs
wow, my fox is at 40%? I only just left the overworld and its tutorial mini-dungeons
all those normally late game checks make it a lot denser than I realized
Scavenger Mask! 
which still looks like that one Mass Effect species
I think I still need prayer to make it anywhere interesting in quarry+ziggurat though
ok, fighting the gardens boss with zero healing flasks was maybe a bad call, but it barely worked out and that's both bells rung now
grats
Time to fight Gwyn
once I have the Red Questagon
ok 46% seems like a good stopping point, that was almost every available check in Bottom of the Well, Dark Tomb and West Gardens
with my current items I could also do Atoll, Quarry and Swamp, but not all of their subareas, mostly due to Prayer
and the three items I'm aware of hints for in my world are all Prayer-blocked
so perhaps the time has come to use my first hint
oo silver gauntlets
I think that's the important one
I believe you also need bronze key and of course the stuff to reach WotHP, but yeah
swag
woo card slot
(Tunic's equivalent of HK charm notches)
you know I should probably give myself a slot in start inventory so I have the option of using one of the cards people find early on
AHiT also has this issue in rando (but more acute since 1, and later 2, of the badges are effectively mandatory) and I eventually gave myself 2 Badge Pins there
Hopefully spirit temple has something incredible since I got requiem, silver gauntlets, and spirit keys in the early game
Right.. requiem not relevant, my fire temple is there in this seed 
Alright, back to BK for me
unless the tunic wand is the greatest item in the game, spirit temple wasnt that good
omg ranged attack!
there's very few checks unlocked by it, but if I had gotten it before shield + orb it would've been a huge win for normal combat
in fact next time I play Tunic I should force it to give me one of the magic weapons early instead of sword, my seeds keep hiding magic until the very end
Zora tunic, bombs, songs, ocarina
Plenty of new stuff
Serenade of water warps me to
...Death mountain crater?
Nocturne of Shadow leads to Lon Lon Ranch
Kind of dark
The tracker even shows where songs lead to automatically https://i.imgur.com/TcaDbvU.png
you have a song that teleports you to Lon Lon Ranch?
I have dungeon entrance randomizer,
And apparently one of its features is it changes where songs lead
Suits me because that's a central location
hm, was that her 2nd or 3rd?
I was all "Yeah let's do dodongo's cavern. It's green!" and I forgot it was swapped with spirit temple
2nd gives it the charge attack to break green barriers and 3rd gives it the ranged projectile to flip farway levers
Second
id love to find dodongo
OH
I can enter whatever water temple is
I was thinking "theres not much to do in water" but its a different dungeon..
Is it Ganon's Castle?
Wait no that's in there
Fucking heat seeking volcanic rocks
I can't dodge them no matter what I do
Why are tunic fairies considered important?
like skulltula tokens or children of moonlight, there are checks for getting 10 and 20 fairies
Oh
47 for me
in particular, in the vanilla game 10 fairies gets you one of the game's most important manual pages ||because it provides the biggest hints on how to read the fictional language, as well as multiple bonus riddles for other secrets||
Major key for yay
Hmm
How do I get to that chest without getting caught by the Gerudo?
sneak up there like normally?
Oh you can shoot them with arrows to stun them
Hah, I got caught by one after a loading screen hit so I just moved on with the "halt" text active
It had Farore's wind
Sword Upgrade for Ixfox
No entrance to water temple because I don't have iron boots
Probably a good time for a hint
@fresh hill [Hint]: FlitterOoT's Iron Boots is at The Abyss 05 - Ancient Soul x2 in Ixlily's World. (not found)
welp, that's gonna need Piercing Spectral Lance
Should I hint for that too?
nah I should, that's a very legit hint and one of the few key EL items I don't have yet
ah-ha, it was me all along!
guess I'm putting off goatworld for a bit
Sheik taught me bombs
Forest temple is deku tree
I guess I gotta do that as adult Link
Adult link can reflect deku scrub shots!
No skip necessary. He clears every cliff
my deku is in jabu so I cant do this
With fire arrows and a hookshot and a hammer the whole dungeon is doable
Time to fight Queen Gohma
Oh arrows don't work on her
Her only weakness is deku nuts
does she come down by herself eventually
Yes
hm, I just remembered actually getting to abyss 5 also requires a lot of healing, and I don't have any of the extra heal relics yet
And for some reason I can't just jump slash her
But stabs work
She is dead. She had a recovery heart
And Zora's Sapphire
Hint: My Ruto's Letter (and my first bottle) is in Wcctnoam's Map 5 https://i.imgur.com/AXzgDNh.png
My Gerudo Card is at uh
Whatever this is https://i.imgur.com/a0NAo1F.png
These are really good hints. The Async hint format is actually useful
insane hint rng
and there it is
Nice work
not the entrance, but this helps when you get there, right?
I did the skip in Gerudo Training Ground where you wait under a silver rupee for a spectral hand to lift you up and take you away
yeah the fire temple has the most locked doors in the game
Other than Gerudo Training Ground
Im done with my work prep so I can check out what the water temple is now
aaaah dang it I was supposed to not pick up mega armor right away
It's not a big deal because there's like forty of them
Laurels to Tunic, Biggoron sword to me
I also realized I saved seconds ago so I could just quit and reload
so @ancient harness I've got a mega armor located when you want it
nice, laurels are basically a short-range teleport dash, the last major movement ability in vanilla
that probably means I can do the whole of Tunic once we get my prayer
oooooh dang it I forgot the lance doesn't work on its own
lol, it's still me
Water temple is Dodongos cavern
plus I probably can't reach abyss 5 without healing relics anyway
this is gonna be a juicy clear
Adult Link Dodongo's Cavern
I think it's all doable with fire arrows, bombs and hookshot

I had a slingshot so this just means more ammo capacity
oh well, I continue to be cursed to always do quarry backwards
at least I'm finding good stuff already
Silver scale! I need that too
wooh first boss down
have an ice trap to celebrate
Nice work
and there it is
man this is so much easier with orb and magic and shield and 6 estus flasks
That's not what I asked for but I'll take it!
remind me what extra double hookshot does in your game?
nice
speaking of which, the Magic Orb in Tunic is sort of a hookshot, but it can also pull you and enemies through solid walls, but it consumes part of my magic bar which is why there's a little "3" on it in my UI right there
it's been extremely handy here in the quarry to yank all the snipers out of their usual positions
Ye I look good..
feeling kinda BKed rn I need the scale
if you don't have the laurels this is a complete troll because there's no way to cross that one foot of water to actually save there
Oh
and because I don't have prayer, the first quarry save point (the one you'd use normally, i.e. not "backwards") is unavailable
(one of my truest Soulslike experiences in a video game was doing all of quarry backwards on my first vanilla playthrough and genuinely having no idea it was backwards until after I got through it all)
(which is why it's so funny rando keeps making me relive it)
What happens if you reboot core instead?
lose connection to the archi client and have to restart
Want me to Go to the spoiler file and look the other one up?
sure I think thats fair
It is in Dilapidated Dungeon - Strong Eyes (Yay89nopants)
she has slide so that should be no problem
@sage dawn I would like this
all right, we're done with quarry for now
ooooh, I forgot laurels gives me a way into Fortress without prayer
I can get Artik's boomerang proabably
🎉
laurels are stupid fast when you know the map
that's... not one of the essential cyclops parts, right?
Oh, weird hint https://i.imgur.com/qt36MeE.png
that stone always says that
it lets you go between high and low water levels if you needed that for whatever reason
i assume so you can get into the water temple without the tunic
I'm trying to get to water temple without boots
not sure you can
ok, I'll open up the path to Abyss in EL and then call it there for now, since that'll leave me fully prepared to jump on either Ziggurat or Abyss the moment I receive either fox prayer or the healing relics
nope, your Iron Boots are in my Abyss 5, which is a room I can't reach without additional heals (Abyss 4 is a long poison mist gauntlet)
how important was this song?
Opens up Fire Temple, Zora's Domain, a lot of small checks
oh I didn't know we had a tier list
Personally I'd put Elegy of Emptiness in D because I hate having to do it so many times every time I need to enter Stone Tower Temple
hm
in that game we were playing prelude of light is bad because song of soaring takes you to clock town -> castle town
Yeah, in OoTMM, Song of Soaring is faster and easier to memorize than Prelude of Light
But on its own, Prelude of Light is great if you want to swap ages
Adult Link can teleport there by save warping
derp, also forgot about the unlock ability, need that for the abyss doors
anyway I made it to this save point so that's my stopping point
Good work
61% and 53% is definitely plenty for day 3 out of 14
Yeah I can get that no problem
I know I have one of your air kicks but I feel like you probably don't need that
you have... cling, 1 kick, solar wind, strikebreak, 3/5 major keys, 9 health pieces, yeah that's gotta be most of the game
I think you'd need another kick or two and/or plunge to scale the tower?
so that's where Artiks' scale was
yay just found it btw
Yeah I think I mainly need keys and damage. I have like no damage.
You did? The scale was in yay's game
"yay" was a noun, not an interjection 
Oh, you said "yay" but I read it "I"
thats so epic
The YayGoat just found it
Excuse me it's Yay89nopants
im still either waiting for my laser cutter or third cyclops engine fragment
or both, both is good
i should probably hint the cyclops actually
we set it to 12% right? or was it 10%?
12%
Wait I just realized that I can just use keys and then reset to last save
that feels too much like cheating to me
i wont stop you tho
yeah, I'm not sure if that's considered a bug or not
I am now a professional
in the base game if you reset after key use, then everything that happened after the key use gets reset, but (like most randomizers IME) the AP mod has to let you reset to save without wiping out recently acquired items to avoid softlocking in dead ends
so I believe the cheaty key reuse thing is currently seen as a side effect of that, I dunno if they plan on changing it (though it's definitely not a priority)
iirc only half the key doors are worth opening in rando anyway and they total, what, 4 checks? so it's not a big deal anyway
Yeah
I've also been using reset to save just to get around faster because of the ap changes
It doesn't save game state though so you lose out on switches you press and stuff
yep, a lot of these mods enable benchwarp at the start of the game just because the game's designed around having it eventually and that makes everyone's life easier (especially when random start could lead to you not acquiring it the normal way forever, like in Ender Lilies)
true "crystalwarp" for Pseudo is probably overkill though, reset is plenty
oh nice your % is already caught up to my EL
I mean to be fair I have like a quarter the checks
And yeah crystal warp would be overkill
Oh shit @midnight depot light arrows
Oh neat you can mega out of bubble dash
I thought the bubble charge went away the moment you touched ground, how does that work?
(if mega means ultra)
Yeah ultra
You just backflip the moment you hit the ground
Also learned from the internet that ultras are way easier if you raise the fps cap
The thing I'm really bad at is going any direction but backwards lol
when I get an ultra I go in what feels like a random direction
Yeah
Also please never get me ascendant light because I hate this check and it's technically out of logic on normal for me right now
oh man there are so many ways to do that check
ascendant chain on the floating enemy, cling around the corner, plunge and kick combos
I assume it's also possible to ultra off the bridge and then do even fewer kicks but lol I'll never be able to aim that
Yeah it is insane the number of ways to do it I just really hate the intended way lol
yep, lunatic logic allows slide + 1 kick
I hadn't figured out you could reset to save in my original playthrough so every attempt I had to go ALL the way around and it fucking sucked
Because I kept dropping the ascendent light chain
even the normal logic has seven options for this
"Castle Sansa - Floater In Courtyard": lambda state:
self.can_bounce(state) and self.has_plunge(state)
or self.can_bounce(state) and self.get_kicks(state, 2)
or self.has_gem(state) and self.get_kicks(state, 2)
or self.has_gem(state) and self.has_plunge(state)
or self.get_kicks(state, 4)
or self.knows_obscure(state) and self.can_bounce(state) and self.get_kicks(state, 1)
or self.knows_obscure(state) and self.has_gem(state) and self.get_kicks(state, 1),
oh god that does suck
I didn't even attempt this until I had cling and/or knew about resets
Does the plunge hop reset your number of clings?
I think in this case the only place you can plunge is at the start from the bridge
or wait you mean the little midair backflip
Yeah
I have never tried that, 6 cling climbs is already way more than enough to get the height for this (which is why higher difficulties allow cling only)
Oooh I see
yeah cling-only is a hard option
not even expert
my skill level is basically hard with maybe 1/3rd of expert because I suck at ultras lol
It'd be cool if on the tracker you could set difficulty independently for green and yellow checks.
that would be cool
Like set green to your logic choice and yellow to whichever one above you want
maybe after they they finish the logic levels I'll ask about that
Yeah it is still in flux
...what the heck is this logic
"Dilapidated Dungeon - Strong Eyes": lambda state:
self.has_breaker(state)
or self.knows_obscure(state) and self.has_gem(state) and self.kick_or_plunge(state, 2),
Maybe obscure is clips?
iirc clips are considered out of logic at all difficulty levels
Wait but you need a small key for strong eyes without slide
that's probably in the region transition logic
oh wait I think I know what this is
slides back to dungeon really quick
Oooh I that makes sense that it'd be in region transition logic
Okay yeah floater is way easier with cling gem lol
Basically free
ok no I have no idea what this logic is lol
It took me a hot minute to realize why there are three items here
Also like earlier I was thinking Empty Bailey has the best music but that's only because I hadn't been to Listless Library yet this run and forgot about it
And that pust me into BK mode.
Remaining checks are mostly locked behind one more kick. I don't think I have anything plunge locked.
Oh and ascendant light
Unless I want to get good at ultras
I could hint them but I'm down to kinda just chill for a bit.
No one's waiting on me
and I already know one of your kicks is at my Tunic boss
not final boss, the Scavenger Boss
I've already done all of Quarry so that one is waiting on Flitter getting my Prayer ability
Ooh
ooh, Wcct found my goat's ascendant light and another kick
Hello. It's Blasphemous time
They fixed the puzzle where you have to take the elevator up and down five times
Now the door opens on the first time
Gee I wonder if there's a secret door here https://i.imgur.com/fgc9P2V.png
"Feast your eyes on the envy of every merchant. The finest treasure to ever find its way into my hands."
"And may my heart stop beating if I'm being dishonest."
The treasure: https://i.imgur.com/a0uwBX1.png
I sent myself a... third ocarina?
Tri-weilding ocarinas, nice
Also I've been having PC issues all weekend and just sent mine in for repair
In theory I should have it back tomorrow but...
Good luck!
I think my gpu has been overheating so they're gonna replace the thermal paste or something
But it might be something else
nice, haven't even finished receiving items and I already found a Cyclops part
Yeah, I found plenty of stuff in Blasphemous
I think that's the last part I need
Fuck
Oh no, I've had 4 Hull fragments
I need 3
...why?
is "Bow" for Artiks as important as it sounds?
4 Hull, 4 Bridge, 2 engine
Sigh
Only the first bow is important but I think that's the last item Artiks needs to finish the game
Lol
[Hint]: FlitterBlasph's Mirrored Mask of Dolphos is at Bottom of the Well Like Like Chest in FlitterOoT's World at Kakariko Village -> Bottom of the Well. (not found)
The last item I need to finish Blasphemous
And for that, I need [Hint]: FlitterOoT's Song of Storms is at Fire Temple Volvagia Heart in FlitterOoT's World at DMC Fire Temple Entrance -> Fire Temple Lower. (not found)
sweet, got two of my yellow squares with ultras
it's hard to tell but I think uncapping the framerate did make it easier
tracker says red, but this feels possible 
hahaha I didn't even use my second kick and got it first try
I did start with a super though so that'll probably be in expert when they finish the logic levels
did you need one of these?
Oooh that's awesome
and that's BK at 78%, not even a yellow square left
That basically let's me not worry about power while I'm in my cyclops
I think the rest of these checks are all waiting on either Sunsetter (high jump + ground pound) or a 3rd Air Kick
I have all the good upgrades! I can go all the way to the sea empress and probably get the cure
...once I get an engine fragment
it won't work in the Text Client?
I don't have one
I guess I get more out of the Text Client when I'm the odd one playing 3 different games
Subnautica is a mod, just put the mod in and in the start menu there's an extra text box I use to log in
It's super simple, it's great
yup, a lot of the non-ROM AP games are similarly simple
ah, so that one is also me waiting on myself
You can open the text client for any game if you have the generic archipelago client installed
how badly do you need Iron Boots? (I'm still not certain I can reach them even after I go get unlock)
Not necessary
I think I can finish the game without them but they give me a whole dungeon
all right, I'll stop at just BK'ing Pseudo for the time being until the average completion passes me again
I can't grab this https://i.imgur.com/5ZJnP6t.png
It says "Grab" but when I press it Link rolls
Probably need a gauntlet upgrade
And I also need hoverboots.
Ganon is not going to be any time soon because beating the fire trial is a requirement
Thanks for the golden scale
The tracker says I can get Ledge Piece of Heart in the Graveyard
But I'm not sure how I can do it without beans
Oh it's a hookshot clip
Another bow for artiks
Ice cavern is Dodongo's cavern
So I guess I have to do it as adult link
Hint: I don't even know
oh, that's my true ending item
or... oh wait it's probably the lore note explaining the true ending item
yeah the actual item is called Luminant Aegis Curio
so don't worry about that hint
Dodongo's Cavern is so much easier as adult link
Yep
It helps that biggoron sword deals four times the damage
Oh if you have that it's barely even an inconvenience
TIL Archviles die to 4 berserk punches
And he goes down in two hits
Berserk damage in doom is highly variable. Can be anything from 20 to 200 a hit
Archviles have 700HP, so you need to be very lucky to get them in four hits
Nice
when flitter said short run I wasnt thinking 4 days hmmm
Should have done more dungeons then
but beating Ganon with 2 dungeons down is funny
True
I need a bunch of things still
You're free to keep playing until you're done with the game, at which point you can do !release manually
no way
releasing half my checks whats the point of that..
im not allowed to buy this
no
You can only buy tunics as adult Link
ah..
The tracker says I can get the King Zora check as Adult Link, but he's frozen. https://i.imgur.com/jXYMrSy.png
I don't have a bottle nor ice arrows
Ah well, I'll come back to it later
Water Temple is Water Temple
Without Iron Boots I can only reach parts of it
bean in lost woods, death mountain, kakariko, and desert
am I missing any i need to plant..
You want to put a bug in every soil location anyway for the skulltulas
ye but I did that before I got beans
There's a glitch you can do to unfreeze him that's not too hard, but I don't know the setup with him moved.
It's easier if he hasn't moved.
Oh neat
I have no idea how to get any checks in water temple without iron boots so I'm going to leave it for now
Also, sunsetter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPUR6IN99Ic
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Every time I get one of those play the right song prompts with the notesheet it says "Play the Nocturne of Shadows!" which is very funny
sometimes fun but with all the item gets giving long text boxes it kinda sucks
That's why I play the game at 400% speed
Yeah
And unless they changed it it can make it really hard to tell who an item is actually for
Which is more a problem in normal OoT multiworld
And less a problem in AP
I see a song for flitter or an ice trap
Both are good
ice cavern is fire temple
good thing I can complete all of it because this would suck to backtrack to
Hey yay899 do I have to talk to all the gorons in the fire temple or is that optional
one more question
does the biggoron sword deal more damage to Ganondorf than the master sword
Yeah, but not to ganon
none of my games are in go mode, but I think Tunic needs 2 items (for normal ending), EL needs 1 (for normal), and Pseudo needs 1? they're items we discussed before anyway
(admittedly I've been in go mode for EL's bad ending for a long time now
)
And I'm fighting the optional NG+ bosses in Blasphemous because I'm waiting on my one item
what was yours? (WotHP not reachable?)
Need the last mask
right, dolphos
Aubade of the Nameless Guardian is a really nice spell
Shame you only get it after you have no more need for spells
I got it early in rando once, but I didn't have enough fervour to cast it until I had other spells lol
It appears to be the best boss killer spell if the boss stands there and lets you hit them
wait derp my EL is already in go mode for normal ending too
but considering how quickly this has gone I'm probably gonna aim for 100%s and my true endings, which in EL means 2 more "Stone Tablet Fragments"
and for Tunic... if I counted that right, I'm missing 6 of the "Pages X-Y" items
(the Tunic AP mod has an impending update with entrance rando, so my tentative plan for next time is to do Tunic with no guaranteed start weapon, entrance rando, and enemy rando; that'll definitely slow me down)
Makes sense
I figured it out
There's a skip where you shoot your longshot into a submerged torch to get to the bottom east level
Which then allows you to drain the temple
This should be all I can do for OoT. See you when I get new things
I have a few checks left, and I suspect we'll stay that way until the next weekend or whenever Meganought gets his computer back
He lost his computer? thats unfortunate
I still have stuff to do but not sure how much outside of half water
I should get it back tomorrow
They told me it should be ready today, yesterday
And then forgot to mention how busy they were
So it might not be tomorrow
Big BK for me until someone finds maps
I might sweep another region of Ender Lilies this evening, but in Tunic I'll probably wait until Flitter can get my prayer (unless someone gets a hint for something I can reach), and my goat was BK'd last I checked
It's OK tho I'm just sitting here
Doing nothing
All day
im about to kill Shadow Link hes gonna have a map for sure
he actually had a seaglide fragment
actually, Flitter, I know you needed dolphos mask to finish, but did you need something else to clear WotHP?
I need the bronze key
I wonder why the rando has more fragments than I need, i already set the seaglide to be within the starting zone, I got it by hour 2
Generally the reason for this sort of behavior is that the item is so important you can't play the game without it, but you also run into situations where you can't find it
a lot of randos like to add extra Xs when there's an important "get N of X" goal, so you a) don't necessarily need to 100% your game, and b) to reduce the chances of a long BK chain where everyone's stuck on everyone else
same as how when the base game already has an optional N of X goal, like Gold Skulltula Tokens or Children of Moonlight or Tunic's Fairies, there's usually an option to put filler items on getting all of them
Also see OoT where you can customize the number of Triforce pieces you find
If you make it so all triforce pieces need to be found, you're not finishing the game until you're nearly 100% done with every check
and some other Zelda randomizers have a "Triforce Hunt" mode that scatters several pieces around the map but doesn't require getting all of them; Tunic has a similar "Hexagon Quest" mode partially as a reference to that (which I will finally try if I'm able to bring entrance rando next time)
the focus map 04 blue keycard
s/might/will
I dont understand
sorry, referring to ^
I will sweep another region of Ender Lilies, since (the rest of) Witch's Thicket was the obvious next place for me to go and also where hints said my Unlock is waiting
with hover boots I can get 21 whole checks in shadow temple
hover boots ETA ~4 hours 
mine is in forest
The only dungeon left for me that Adult Link can access is Spirit Temple
So it must be there
Otherwise it's in bottom of the well and I have to do it as Child Link?
Let's play. I bet I can get a couple of checks
I finally figured out the graveyard box
Turns out you just need to stand farther away. No clip needed
Time to try the unfreeze king zora trick
Oh I just fucked around and he came back to life before I even started trying https://i.imgur.com/r25ABVL.png
He had a deku stick!
I did the trade item method
Hmm, without iron boots I can't get the Gerudo Training Ground toilet check
thanks a lot for the stick!
How does one reach this guy without vertical prayers or the relic that makes you fall down pits? https://i.imgur.com/CWmeAt2.png
Oh, Isidora is optional https://i.imgur.com/4XnrOTh.png
I don't actually know what to do here, https://i.imgur.com/UbaPVdr.png
I got myself a bottle!
Lots of spots lit up. Probably all bug skulltulas
There's gotta be at least one map in those....
Oh!
Dodongo's Cavern leads to spirit temple, but the spirit temple's other exits lead to desert colossus!
Which means I also have access to shadow temple
This one bottle had so much behind it
right, Ender Lilies time
The sale is up and Pseudoregalia is not even on sale
I guess I'm not grabbing it until there's a sale
@weary lagoon
oooh someone found my hook
so... yep that's every EL movement ability (except the one I haven't gotten myself yet)
ok that's Witch's Thicket "done" (aside from the one item being saved for Wcct)
let's see if I have enough upgrades to make it to abyss 5
nope, barely even made it to the swimming part; definitely need at least one of the other healing relics to survive this
not like I'll ever need to hint anything else in this game so might as well
Can't believe nobody's found a backpack
hm
well I can definitely get the stockade one
I forget if Flitter has enough to do the black egg thing yet
Do not
Blasphemous is in BK mode
The fan section in Shadow Temple is surprisingly difficult without iron boots
oh right, the cells are numbered weirdly so some of them are Stockade 07_X instead of 05_X, I'm still in the right place
I found my own golden gauntlets
Pretty sure that means go mode for Zelda
Thank you for Ruto's Letter!
there, let's try this again
...I forgot there were mines at the end of this poison gauntlet
Need more healing then?
maybe
I'm still making dumb mistakes so not quite sure yet
yeah I do need the third heal
(in vanilla this is meant to be the hardest room to reach)
Shadow temple boss has bongoed his last bongo
It's great to go into 30 and dying so all the infinite ammo respawns.
Smart
If you go in after you've beaten Romero, he's still spawning stuff
Actually, I should check if his head is still intact and it's just the spawning mechanism
Heh. His head is intact and it's immune to damage. Can't beat the level more than once
So many checks down there
that might be go mode for goat
Pretty sure this belongs to Artiks https://i.imgur.com/UC6IKnS.png
But I can't reach it
Surprisingly the big chest is not much taller than a small chest https://i.imgur.com/BJxZWoK.png
Oh but wait
No, nevermind
Why is the five froggish tenors minigame so hard?
Bro you just play the notes...
Yeah but if I wait even a moment they just leave
I'm playing it with an analog stick which means I easily make directional mistakes
...huh, (Pseudoregalia) Center Steeple turned green on normal with 4 kicks and no plunge? how does that work 
I know I can do reverse wall kicks there but that's not normal
ganbatte
Let's finish Blasphemous
I wish the game remembered your connection information
Every time I have to type
\Multiworld connect archipelago.gg:60245 FlitterBlasph
yeah, I wish more of these mods made the effort to remove that step
several of them do but it feels like overall it's maybe about half of them
(Pseudoregalia gets a pass since it's still in an alpha state and has more important gaps to fix)
even if you can't make a fancy in-game UI for it, there's always a config file; Tunic relies on you editing a JSON file but after that you never have to do an extra step to reconnect
I found my own backpack where the first SSG is
Perfect match
Found Flitter's minuet
Excellent
[root at 2023-11-21 20:14:01,503]: Notice (all): FlitterBlasph (Team #1) has completed their goal.
that's one way to get my item
I don't want to play Blasphemous any more for now so I'm releasing
I'm still going to play OoT
let's give this another try now that I have the earrings
Seriously?! https://i.imgur.com/3s09VDu.png
I got three songs and they all take me to random spots in Hyrule Market
phew, finally
Oh thanks
Oh I didn't find MY golden gauntlets. I found Artiks's
In that case nevermind. I'll do more OoT tomorrow
Explain to me exactly how this place works
Okay!
I wrote a guide in the pins, here: #1119170161518334004 message but here's the sales pitch first
using the https://archipelago.gg/ software, and various mods for each supported game, we set up a randomizer that shuffles items from one game to another so we all effectively play together and find each other's stuff
oh whoops Flitter's got it covered
You play a randomizer of your choice, at your own pace, but the randomizer takes your items and sorts them randomly in every participating player's games, instead of only yours
Whenever you find an item in your world, it can be your item or someone else's item. If it's someone else's item, you automatically send it to them, and when they play next they'll get that item
The goal is to for every player to win the game they randomized
You can find the current game here #1119170161518334004 message
The tracker page here https://archipelago.gg/tracker/aiWw8grGRh-_eZQcs0h3ew shows the players and what they're playing, as well as how much progress everyone made so far
And the game room contains a full log of every item people sent or received https://archipelago.gg/room/WPzxUrB-SkGr2DgnGHCz8g
Our November game is three quarters done, and there are nine games in total played by six players https://i.imgur.com/PYxNrJi.png
Ixrec after pinging me about my hover boots while I was at the gym
none
my hover boots makes king zora noises 👍
did you run out of hint points?
Yes hold on
The hint you're trying to type is probably !hint Shadow Temple GS Near Ship
(that's the one that requires longshot and ocarina)
Does this work? I can just look it up for you on the spoiler log if it doesn't
he doesnt need that im sure
Yeah that's just money
@midnight depot found your gold skulltula!
BK mode 
I guess Effigy Skip is a thing, but I have plenty of those and I already did West Gardens anyway
Artiks's forest temple key ring
The biggest downside of doing the dark link fight late is he has tons of HP
And I found my boomerang, 80% of the way into the seed!
All purples https://i.imgur.com/1sWd8y0.png
omg so many Tunic items, let me play the game 
Should I collect in blasphemous?
I'm still not sure what's more courteous
Removing checks from everyone's automated trackers or keeping checks for people who like completionism
I guess it depends on whether the other games are capable of picking up on already collected items and not showing them
last time when chip did it none of mine were aware of it so the collect did not allow me to skip any checks
are you serious
it was here the whole time
Whelp
behind that blue chest I opened prematurely and blocked myself from getting here until I had teleport even though it's a green square
999 wallet for Artiks
well I'm never making THAT mistake again
I couldn't use it till tomorrow anyway, but that unlocks... basically all if the game
The key in bottom of the well was Water Temple boss key for Artiks
cool, that was Stone Tablet Fragment 5/7
might actually get all my true endings at this rate
all of them?!
found my other hexagon
oh, there was another of yay's air kicks in my world
guess there's little point going after that boss now
Stop giving me items. Princess Ruto hates it when I drop her
good news is, this next check should take a minute
She looks like she's having fun in the gif
literally one minute
(not counting time to take the screenshot)
78%, good stopping point
my fox is extremely overpowered
I knew this guy had nothing important, it's just fun to pummel him when the properly balanced fight took me dozens of attempts
Huh. First time I find a key for a map inside the map
You can make it so all your keys are local by writing that in the YAML
Also, https://i.imgur.com/GEhOeyI.png volcano heart piece with hover boot backstep is easier than I imagined
Um
[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Small Key Ring (Fire Temple) is at Fire Temple Boulder Maze Shortcut Chest in FlitterOoT's World at DMC Fire Temple Entrance -> Fire Temple Lower. (not found)
How do I even get there? https://i.imgur.com/1seOdr5.png
did you do accessibility: items?
Oh, looking at the spoiler log, I set accessibility to minimal and the small key ring, as well as three skulltula tokens, are marked unreachable
Ah well
This means every single one of these checks is trash https://i.imgur.com/8x2vq6z.png
[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Gerudo Membership Card is at Northern Blood Kelp Zone Sanctuary - Alien Data Terminal in submega's World. (not found)
I guess I'm not reaching that last dungeon until tomorrow, but when you get around to it I'd like this check @lament tusk
There's an alien data terminal in blood kelp? Huh
I'll fund it, dw
Tomorrow
Landstalker is getting added to archipelago soon
#1096442606298345644 message
im playing oot and wind waker next month
I'm probably going to do Tunic with much harder settings and AHiT, might stop there, might not
whats the twist
I'll decide when it's December
Right now I have several ideas which all involved looking at the YAML and carefully writing things in
Yep. That's one of the ideas
I also want to fix the problem where you can somehow generate bad warp song combinations
I might write my own script to randomly decide on a fixed set of warp song locations
I bought Pseudoregalia
It "works"
GameThread timed out waiting for RenderThread after 120.00 secs
0x00007ff6b55d5cc2 pseudoregalia-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff6b55e3c80 pseudoregalia-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff6b32bafc1 pseudoregalia-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff6b32c468c pseudoregalia-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff6b32c470a pseudoregalia-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff6b32c547c pseudoregalia-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff6b32ce234 pseudoregalia-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff6b6fd16d2 pseudoregalia-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ffc57267344 KERNEL32.DLL!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ffc573a26b1 ntdll.dll!UnknownFunction []
I figured it out
My CPU's getting angry when it sees too many particles or when my character model interacts with a wall. Fix: Lower the resolution so it's less angry
The "Retro resolution scale" Doesn't seem to affect performance though
Workaround did not work while fighting the boss. I'm asking for a refund until I have a better computer, so I probably will not be playing it in Archipelago later
I got a refund for the game and kept a DRM-free copy of it I can test whenever my hardware changes. Eventually I'll be able to buy it again
How did you get a purple name?
rolled 100
i got my green name by rolling a 1
any big items today?
i have my computer back, but i wont be free to play for a few more hours. today is a busy day for me unfortunatly
speaking of the upcoming not-so-short game, how do people feel about bringing accessibility: minimal yamls to this group?
since any one player doing that means anyone might have some items they expected to be found or at least eventually findable that turn out to be actually unreachable without hacks, I figure I should ask first
it doesn't really change much
i've finished a bunch of games with plenty that i expected to recieve
does it mark spoiler'd items as "unreachable" if you search em?
its not a big deal but does mean that very nice optional items can get locked out like biggoron sword
hint'd*
Does minimal accessibility make it so other people who have not set it lose items? In my case it only locked out my own items and junk items for others behind the locked area
good question, I just assumed it could be anyone's stuff that gets "lost" but I don't actually know
The spoiler log contains a list of unreachable items, which we can use to double check if anything valuable is lost
its something we should look up, but from my point of view, the only real complaint i'd have is if i hinted something and it turned out the answer was "no", and i ended up having to use another hint as a result
I think Flitter hit exactly that case in fire temple the other day?
Yeah I can just publish a list of unreachable items at the start of a game
🤘
works for me
brb making 10 "minimal" "death wish only" hatty time runs next rando
I am genuinely tempted to do all minimals next time
which is why I wanted to ask first, that likely means a lot more "lost items" than before
i enjoy completing things to much to do minimal, its relaxing
When I did it this time I expected to do half the game or something. It only locked out fire temple
yeah, minimal is only a lack of guarantees, it doesn't actively try to minimize anything
I assume it needed the room to put other players' games in distinct spheres
you want less game in the month long session?
I want harder game
like a Pseudoregalia where I never get a cling gem, or a Tunic where I never get the sword upgrades
In this case I did minimal because it's a shorter session
im gonna go do the forest temple!
Have fun
I mean if we're worried about too little game I could bring four minimal games next time 
alrighty, looks like im free. im supposed to be doing something else but it can wait. i've been away from my pc for like 4 days, i wanna play a game properly.
is there a proper map in pseudoregalia now
last i checked they were adding one
or at least in the archipelago mod
cus i might run it this time if so, hatty time+pseudoregalia+ hollow knight maybe? i kinda want 3
The tracker has one
no in-game map
if not, i might try getting pokemon emerald working again, since i did enjoy my emerald run, if not that then idk what my third thing should be, maybe just ds3 again, since i've got that game down to completeing it in a "short" game amount of time 
that makes my choice harder, i probably shouldnt go for the legendary 4 game rando
Doom
the original doom was fun, but not like, "replay over and over" fun
Doom 1 sucks. I wish the randomizer had support for custom maps. Doom 2 seems better but I'll have to try it (unless Wcctnoam can share his experience)
I'd enjoy both I just know Doom 2 and all the secrets better.
Doom 2 rando is a challenge of your own information storage, your skill and your resource management
Most of the time just the third one
i have far to much adhd to have information storage *and8 resource management, let alone one
I just got the "longshot" silver rupee with the normal hookshot @fierce vale @midnight depot just so you know
in GTG
how?
i tried directly above me and it didn't
i spent like 5 minutes trying that, how did i fuck it up
Yeah I thought you could get it but didn't know you had to be specifically positioned
Either way the skip is useful when you have no hookshot yet
(I'm still sitting on that mega armor if you need it
)
Yeah it doesn't matter anymore now that I have everything except the plasma rifle
figured that'd happen
In the beginning an invicibiliyu or megasphere at a moment of my choice would've been huge
that's my main goal for next time: spend much less of each game in that "I have so much stuff I steamroll everything" mode
Yeah. Armor specifically tends to run out fast but you also get it back fast
Can always pick a game that doesn't get easier
not sure any of my games work like that
AHiT's probably the closest since you have all the core movement from the start, and the later upgrades are mostly situational
magic beans for flitter!!
I was hoping for those
though getting Magic Orb long before any ranged weapons was pretty fun in Tunic
So I don't have to do megaflip to colossus heart piece
yanking enemies into sword range was not a common tactic in my past playthroughs
yeah, the only thing that really changes movement in hatty time is the no bonk badge, which all the movement isn't technically intended
and umbrella so you can do combat easier
or if you're actually good at the game and can do SDJs, DSJs and TSJs once you get the S hat
but I'm not
(in fact I forgot what an SDJ is
)
whats the one that requires (?) 30 fps
i got good at that one because a bunch of custom maps required it
I do not remember the framerate dependent glitches
big bote finally unlocked, with this bad boy i dont need to worry about basically anything else
its the sdj
at the very least people used to think it was 30 fps only, tech for it may have changed since i got good at it
I do know someone found a way to do hookshotless Finale without DSJ, so that's feasible for me maybe
wait shit i need modification station blueprints to go really deep, thats where the depth module upgrades are crafted. i thought i could just use the cyclops's crafter
hecc
Hint
well this is still a huge upgrade for me
steady on, i havent even done any checks yet. i've just been bulding the cyclops
thats also counting a bunch of shop items im not buying so its more like 5% left
95% without longshot pretty crazy
I'm probably gonna focus on another Tunic area or two today
that's the game I really want to 100% so that I'm ready to brave its entrance rando when that comes out
oh, i have it already 
I feel like I found at least one of the pieces for that
alright i think im done building stuff and can finally explore lol
as soon as I finish catching up on the MYM chatter I'll get back to my games
today's first item is a keycard for wcct, good start
wow all of wcct's stuff was in the swamp/graveyard
In true Doom fashion
was this one of the things Mega needed? I forget what the moonpool is
it is needed but i already built it
thanks tho
now THAT i did need, thanks
i dont know if arti needed a bomb bag but i found one for him

You can Ctrl+f the log for bomb bags
what log?
and the final progression item hidden in the magical secret pocket dimension is... prawn?
Strange. I launched the game and told me I didn't get anything since last time, but I knew this was patently false. And indead I have pretty much everything unlocked now, but there was no notifications
i know i've unlocked some stuff for you, mostly some ammo
also some keycards and maps and computer maps from me
ok, last 9% of Tunic, let's just do all of this
Alright. I'm 3 or 4 keycards away from finishing and I only have 10 checks left in the came
15 checks left in Tunic
I believe only 2 are blocked on items in someone else's world
The path to desert colossus for child link is so annoying
that's probably yay's final goat kick
From spawn, I have to go through lost woods, through goron city, through the entrance to dodongo's cavern, and through spirit temple climbing up until I reach the hand exit
It's the only way to reach desert colossus
Mirror shield for Artiks
I wonder what colour it is
appropriate place to find this
lol
lmao even
yep, the items for my 2 blocked checks are not in my foxworld
final boss time
also, because this is partially a Soulslike, the final boss is ||a very big fox with a very big sword, and lots of poison
||
Twinrova had the goron ruby, meaning I can finally get Artiks's golden scales
man I'm rusty at this, but that's Tunic finished
Well done
Meanwhile I'm bored so I'm doing the armos clip to get into Ganon's tower without needing to do trials
It's deceptively simple
For more information, please visit: http://zelda.speedruns.com/oot/majorsb/trials-skip#armos-clip
yay probably has everything by now
Yeah, I have the light arrows so I'm going to finish the game
Thanks for the Gerudo Membership Card!
The final boss fight is so much easier with the biggoron sword
@sage dawn
that'll probably be the last go mode
for Ender Lilies I feel like doing a quick sweep of one more area then actually finish; after all the beta testing I did I'm less interested in (re-)100%ing this one
nice, in this last area I'm doing on a whim I found a few bugs with the poptracker pack to report
nicely done finishing oot, flitter
its quite a game
took me one and a half month the 2nd last time I played it
Thanks
one of these days ill need your help testing wind waker
welp, I appear to have discovered a very serious bug with the EL AP mod
looks like 20 checks got lost to the void
definitely no point trying for a higher % now, so I think I'll go finish the game
Oh, how did that happen?
so the Ender Lilies randomizer is implemented as a LiveSplit plugin(?) thing (no idea why)
and LiveSplit appears to have silently frozen/crashed in the background while I was playing
and as we've just discovered the mod currently does not have any recovery logic to check that the save file matches the AP state
the devs are now aware of this
Livesplit?!
I know, right?
This is unconscionable -- downright monstrous
also turns out this is another final boss that's actually kinda hard when I don't have 100% of the upgrades 
I mean, I can understand automated speedrun loading time removers being on livesplit
What are you gonna do about the final boss? Cheat some of the upgrades back in?
oh no it's nowhere near that bad
this isn't even as hard as it was in vanilla
I just have to try slightly
(and throughout this playthrough I've deliberately not killed every boss, so the adaptive difficulty isn't maxed out either)
and it's down
if I counted right and it was 20 checks lost, that makes my real completion 80%, which I'm happy with
so only my goat is left, and that might as well wait until I've got the last major key
I uh won't be home until tomorrow or the day after. At my parents'
Sorry for not playing for the last few days. Kinda forgot because I haven't been pinged in a while and had very few checks left
which is fine in a two week async, especially with a small game
Yeah, it's all right. In the future do you want me to remind you regularly?
ok! i have cured my disease, all thats left is 7 checks, disarm the gun and build a spaceship
that shouldnt be too hard
that's, what, a thousand purple science? /s
I really wonder if Factorio would be fun in AP
there are a number of games I don't get the appeal of in AP, like The Witness and Factorio, but clearly some do
damnit, i just travelled for like 20 mins from the lowest point of the map to the highest, and missed grabbing a single nickle
and i need a single sulphur
sigh
oh right, Subnautica doesn't have fast travel
its an exploration game
and it does have fast travel... kinda...
but thats technically spoilers? also incredibly unhelpfully designed
are you kidding me
i have everything i need to build the rocket, the launch pad, rocket engines, fuel reserves and the cockpit.
uh
you also need the cantry to actually be able to board the rocket
...what? its in my world? but i've gotten every check???
oh im missing a few
theres literally a thing telling you where the nearest check is and it went ages ago so thats weird
whatever, i know where they alla re now
oooh 95%
wait
Item Amount Order Received
Gun 1 281
lol someone finally found my fox gun
that's another thing the randomizer gods never want me to have in Tunic for some reason
oh yeah i found that a while ago
La Mulana has a gun and it's the most busted weapon in the game
if they keep not giving it to me I might do a start_inventory: gun run one of these days
it's normally a late-game weapon for a reason
well i mean i could have gotten it... 3 days ago probably, but pc problems
