Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer | Manechat | Page 8

sage dawn Aug 24, 2023, 7:14 PM

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Oh you didn't shuffle those

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I'm dumb lol

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Yeah boomerang basically just lets you finish jabu then

midnight depot Aug 24, 2023, 7:14 PM

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I needed 30 for the last blocking reward

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And I can't enter Jabu Jabu's belly in the first place

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So I guess I'm still in BK mode

sage dawn Aug 24, 2023, 7:15 PM

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Looks like it then yeah

midnight depot Aug 24, 2023, 7:15 PM

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Ah well, back to Hollow Knight

weary lagoon Aug 24, 2023, 7:26 PM

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Minecraft is saved

weary lagoon Aug 24, 2023, 7:44 PM

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Using a hint to find out its just another thing locked behind lullaby ThumbsUp

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HUGE rutos letter for flitter

midnight depot Aug 24, 2023, 7:46 PM

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What's it do?

weary lagoon Aug 24, 2023, 7:47 PM

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2 skulltulas and all of jabu jabu

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which has wccts ocarina

midnight depot Aug 24, 2023, 7:49 PM

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Oh finally

ancient harness Aug 24, 2023, 8:08 PM

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Great, the msot useless medallion

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I'm growing a hatred for the fire temple

ancient harness Aug 24, 2023, 8:55 PM

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One charm for Flitter

midnight depot Aug 24, 2023, 8:58 PM

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That's 33!

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Bow for artiks

ancient harness Aug 24, 2023, 9:26 PM

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Bow upgrade

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Also thanks to me

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Anyway BK mode, and I redid everything I lost

midnight depot Aug 24, 2023, 9:27 PM

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Nice work

sage dawn Aug 24, 2023, 9:46 PM

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Full clearing fire temple without farore's wind sucks

ancient harness Aug 24, 2023, 11:29 PM

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I don't even know or understand how Farore's Wind makes it easier, I just know I hate Fire Temple

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Water, Forest and Spirit are fine

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Shadow may be my most hated, but it's either a tie or a close race with Fire

sage dawn Aug 25, 2023, 12:56 AM

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If you fall down the shaft you can use it to get back up, because when you cast it, the return point is set to the last door you used

clear summit Aug 25, 2023, 2:50 AM

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That is one of the worst advancements, I am glad it's virtually useless

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cadancewheeze

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I don't have to summon wither

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Huge relief

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I feel like a lot of hard or annoying advancements are just few rupees for yay

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-Escape the Ender Island (post-dragon) : Bolero of Fire for wcct
-Construct and place a Beacon : Deku Stick for wcct

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 3:02 AM

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You have the option for disabling hard and impossible advancements

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So I think they'll all have trash

clear summit Aug 25, 2023, 3:03 AM

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Maybe that's how it works. I got Bullseye advancement which gave me 25 pones iirc, and that is a "hard advancement" according to minecraft itself

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Although I don't know if Archipelago counts it as hard

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 3:03 AM

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Hm

clear summit Aug 25, 2023, 3:04 AM

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wcct's Bolero of Fire being post-dragon is unfortunate

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I am pretty sure I also disabled "post-boss advancements", but I guess it has some weird logic or smth because I have structure randomiser

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 3:05 AM

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If you want I can tell you whether impossible or hard ones have trash or not by looking at the spoiler file

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It seems fair since you explicitly turned them off

clear summit Aug 25, 2023, 3:06 AM

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It's fine, I'm gonna do hella Sudokus anyway

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So I will eventually learn

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 3:06 AM

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What's Sudoku do?

clear summit Aug 25, 2023, 3:07 AM

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It randomly shows what item one of my locations(advancements) have

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when I clear a sudoku

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 3:07 AM

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Oh!

clear summit Aug 25, 2023, 3:09 AM

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clear summit -Escape the Ender Island (post-dragon) : Bolero of Fire for wcct -Construct and ...

These are what I'm getting from Sudoku, I'm gonna keep updating it

clear summit Aug 25, 2023, 3:28 AM

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Ok most items are trivial, I shouldn't really care about them

clear summit Aug 25, 2023, 4:00 AM

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yikes

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The advancement is opening a chest in a bastion remnant

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I checked with compass, it is in neither overworld nor nether

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Which means it's a post-dragon advancement

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 4:01 AM

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Sounds fun

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What do you need to kill the ender dragon with relative ease?

clear summit Aug 25, 2023, 4:02 AM

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I mean I need brewing to even access it

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I can probably beat it with beds if I can access it

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lemme see if I can use a hint, I think I can

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ok my Brewing is under 50 skulltula of yay

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 4:12 AM

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Well

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You'd better prepare your ingredients https://i.imgur.com/M294jhk.png

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sage dawn Aug 25, 2023, 4:17 AM

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Oh shit

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Was shutting down to go to bed but figured I'd check in real quick

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Will get that for you one sec

clear summit Aug 25, 2023, 4:18 AM

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If I'm lucky it'll be a breeze after getting Brewing

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if not I may struggle a bit

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I have exactly 12 ender pearls

sage dawn Aug 25, 2023, 4:19 AM

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I mean what are the chances of finding a 0 pearl portal

clear summit Aug 25, 2023, 4:19 AM

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Which means if at least one of them fails and I have 0-filled portal, it may take me a while

sage dawn Aug 25, 2023, 4:19 AM

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Are potions required to kill the dragon with these settings or is it just to make it easier?

clear summit Aug 25, 2023, 4:19 AM

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The frame has the highest probability of generating with only one eye of ender (37.7%), with probabilities dropping to 28.2% for zero, 23.0% for two, 8.52% for three, 2.13% for four, and a total of 0.433% for five or more.

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I can't make blaze powders without Brewing

sage dawn Aug 25, 2023, 4:20 AM

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OH

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I didn't know that

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Well you have brewing now

clear summit Aug 25, 2023, 4:20 AM

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Cool

sage dawn Aug 25, 2023, 4:21 AM

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You gonna give bed strats or a shot or play it safe?

clear summit Aug 25, 2023, 4:22 AM

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I think I'll go for bed strats, I can't craft diamond stuff

sage dawn Aug 25, 2023, 4:23 AM

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Hell yeah

clear summit Aug 25, 2023, 4:23 AM

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Gonna watch some speedrun tutorials

sage dawn Aug 25, 2023, 4:23 AM

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My favorite part about randomizers is learning new speedrun strats without the pressure of actual runs

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Hence why I keep offering to teach some basic OoT tricks to Wcct lol

clear summit Aug 25, 2023, 4:26 AM

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Oh shit this is bad

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I lost my eye of ender

sage dawn Aug 25, 2023, 4:26 AM

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Shit

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Good luck

clear summit Aug 25, 2023, 4:27 AM

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I didn't realize it would be this hard to track a flying eye of ender

sage dawn Aug 25, 2023, 4:27 AM

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Yeah it is surprisingly difficult sometimes

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At least endermen should have a slightly higher spawn rate by the time you hit the fortress just because of your distance from spawn

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 4:28 AM

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I love learning speedrunning tricks. I'm excited to do some on my future OoT runs

sage dawn Aug 25, 2023, 4:28 AM

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Oh shit I'd love to teach you some, Flitter.

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 4:29 AM

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Then you'd have to play the next Archipelago run with me

sage dawn Aug 25, 2023, 4:30 AM

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I've played every run so far

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 4:31 AM

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Yeah! I'm glad you did

sage dawn Aug 25, 2023, 4:31 AM

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Would definitely be down for the next one

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Might pick less overwhelming settings next time though lol

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Also we should probably figure out what everyone needs for go mode at this point. I imagine most of us are getting close

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 4:32 AM

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Good idea. Let me hint for my two other dreamers

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They're uh

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Monomon, Lurien, and

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Herrah!

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Ah woops, ran out of hints

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[Hint]: FlitterHK's Lurien is at Dead Bird Studio Basement - Logo Wall in Chip1's World at The Subcon Well. (not found) @fierce vale

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 4:34 AM

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I need 4 triforce pieces

sage dawn Aug 25, 2023, 4:39 AM

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I need four more dungeon completions, and a way into Zora's Domain. The main thing holding me back here is that for the dungeons where I have boss keys, I can't actually access the boss doors with my current trick skill level. Water requires light bridge (15 heart containers) and longshot, shadow requires ZL to ride the boat, and Spirit needs one more small key I think. I need boomerange to beat barinade in jabu. So I basically need a decent assortment of ZL, boomerang, and small keys/boss keys

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I am further away than I thought lol

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 5:03 AM

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You can get to Morpha without longshot I did it yesterday with hoverboots

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its free

clear summit Aug 25, 2023, 5:50 AM

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I could not find my stronghold trixiesad

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 6:10 AM

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Ah well

fierce vale Aug 25, 2023, 8:05 AM

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midnight depot [Hint]: FlitterHK's Lurien is at Dead Bird Studio Basement - Logo Wall in Chip1'...

CattoCry as soon as i find that rift, im p sure i can complete both hatty time saves

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 8:05 AM

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Great!

fierce vale Aug 25, 2023, 8:05 AM

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~~though chip2 might need some more yarn~~

clear summit Aug 25, 2023, 8:07 AM

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Am keep trying some sudokus, most advancements I have are useless as shit which is a huge relief

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But I'm pretty sure I will eventually have to grab that Lift Key for Chipmon

fierce vale Aug 25, 2023, 8:31 AM

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henlo, lift key would be nice

clear summit Aug 25, 2023, 9:05 AM

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Well wish me my luck for trident drop then

fierce vale Aug 25, 2023, 9:06 AM

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rdsnrk and by nice i mean "lift key is a mandatory progression item" so i shall very much be wishing you luck

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 9:50 AM

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Good morning. Time to explore Jabu Jabu's belly

ancient harness Aug 25, 2023, 9:52 AM

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Holy hell. Is today the day I get an Ocarina

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I have like 10 of the 12 songs, it would be huge

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Oh wait you don't have a boomerang

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@sage dawn Here's my other Ocarina
[Hint]: Wcctnoam's Ocarina is at GC Medigoron Pot in yay899's World. (not found)

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 9:59 AM

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I do have the boomerang

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As soon as I actually figure out how to actually find Jabu Jabu, I'll be there

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Oh!

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You have to take your bunny ears off or the king will just laugh at you

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https://i.imgur.com/LBh53pg.png Hint 19

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midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 10:33 AM

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Time piece for Chip1

fresh hill Aug 25, 2023, 10:35 AM

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overall, how far into this archipelago are we now?

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 10:37 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/gej5Xk6.png

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Two thirds done

fresh hill Aug 25, 2023, 10:41 AM

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maybe next time I'll do multiple games to "make up" for missing this one

fierce vale Aug 25, 2023, 10:41 AM

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doing multiple games is fun

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 10:41 AM

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As long as you're sure you won't burn out

fierce vale Aug 25, 2023, 10:41 AM

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i dont knwo if i'd wanna do it for something like hollow knight, but simpler games like hatty time and pokemon is fine

fresh hill Aug 25, 2023, 10:41 AM

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well this time I was burnt out before the thing even started so I had to skip it, but that had nothing to do with games

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 10:42 AM

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Hollow Knight is a simple game

fierce vale Aug 25, 2023, 10:42 AM

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twiverycool but i am far simpler a person

fresh hill Aug 25, 2023, 10:42 AM

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Hollow Knight is also more punishing than some of those other games

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 10:43 AM

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All you have to do is find all three dreamers to win the game

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You could mod it to make it less punishing

fresh hill Aug 25, 2023, 10:43 AM

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I think Pokemon is more "complicated", although like most RPG-adjacent games a veteran probably ignores 90% of it and follows a fairly simple strat

fierce vale Aug 25, 2023, 10:43 AM

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rdsnrk yeah, but i haven't played it as much relative to the others so i dont know the map as well

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 10:43 AM

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That's what the Archipelago map mod is for

fierce vale Aug 25, 2023, 10:43 AM

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pokemon red is just like, fundamentally broken, so you can just rip it apart as much or as little as you want

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 10:43 AM

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Shows you the whole map with every check (with an option for hiding it until you buy the map from Cornifer)

fresh hill Aug 25, 2023, 10:44 AM

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I did HK here as a 2nd playthrough and it was great, but this probably just means we're looking for different experiences out of a randomizer

fierce vale Aug 25, 2023, 10:44 AM

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i've only really done a cave skip and the silphscope skip

fresh hill Aug 25, 2023, 10:45 AM

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e.g. for me the whole point of the randomizer is to no longer "know" anything but the core movement/combat mechanics

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 10:45 AM

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Princess Ruto has a find item animation https://i.imgur.com/9xGtcp7.png

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Is there a mod to play as Ruto instead of Link? She's cuter

fresh hill Aug 25, 2023, 10:45 AM

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since I've long since forgotten map details

fierce vale Aug 25, 2023, 10:45 AM

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its gonna be fun with emerald, which i might do next time ( i might do pokemon red+emerald+hat in time, if more people do more games i'd consider doing hollow knight or ds3 or some other longer more open game, but 4 games might be to many even for me)

fresh hill Aug 25, 2023, 10:47 AM

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atm I'm thinking by the time we get to a 3rd of these, I'll want to do Blasphemous + Link to the Past

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and by then I might've (finally) played Hat in Time

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(wonder how much Blasphemous 2 + Link Between Worlds will confuse me for that)

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 11:02 AM

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I have acquired Wcctnoam's ocarina

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Oh, and the shadow medallion

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Having three medallions means I can do trials

ancient harness Aug 25, 2023, 11:04 AM

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Ocarina stpc_pppog

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 11:06 AM

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And my light arrows were one rupee for yay

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https://i.imgur.com/0HBMaSn.png

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All right. That's enough for today

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I have these checks remaining https://i.imgur.com/YXivYMi.png

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It's surprising to me how many of these checks I can do despite not having essential items still

ancient harness Aug 25, 2023, 11:30 AM

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@weary lagoon Horseback archery whenever you want

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 11:48 AM

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midnight depot Is there a mod to play as Ruto instead of Link? She's cuter

ye

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 11:52 AM

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Nice

clear summit Aug 25, 2023, 12:11 PM

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ngl I feel like I can do 5 RoR2

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But not minecraft

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 12:13 PM

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I don't think you should do one risk of rain

clear summit Aug 25, 2023, 12:13 PM

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RoR2 honestly you cam do however many you want

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 12:14 PM

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Please don't though

clear summit Aug 25, 2023, 12:19 PM

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I think I'll probably take a rest from Archipelago after this game

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I don't have plan to play oot or pokemon and I have no plan to buy a game for this so I have to figure out what game I wanna play later

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 12:20 PM

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Understandable. You're welcome to join again at any time

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If you're interested in any steam games on the list I can check if I have a DRM-free copy you can use

clear summit Aug 25, 2023, 12:22 PM

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Thanks, I'll think about it

fierce vale Aug 25, 2023, 12:47 PM

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you can also check the diacord for games with pull requests against them which should be safe to join on

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a hat in time is in a similar state, though ive had to add a couple of mods to fix bugs(stuff like forcing the mail delivery badge into my inventory, and force completing a level that checks correctly, but didnt get marked as done, both of which got fixed a patch later, and are pretty easy to fix with prevision)

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though none of the PR games bar terraria seem to be your cup of tea

ancient harness Aug 25, 2023, 12:55 PM

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Alright, that was semi-productive BotW

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My next and probably last big blocker is Zelda's Lullaby

ancient harness Aug 25, 2023, 1:17 PM

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Triforce for Flitter

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rdwut

sage dawn Aug 25, 2023, 1:54 PM

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ancient harness <@98926797311188992> Here's my other Ocarina [Hint]: Wcctnoam's Ocarina is at G...

There's a pot in that room???

ancient harness Aug 25, 2023, 1:55 PM

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I don't even know what room that is

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Oh Big Knife goron

sage dawn Aug 25, 2023, 1:57 PM

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Yeah

ancient harness Aug 25, 2023, 1:57 PM

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sage dawn Aug 25, 2023, 1:57 PM

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Sorry for missing that. I've been able to do that pretty much since the beginning

ancient harness Aug 25, 2023, 1:58 PM

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Np, honestly I wouldn't know that pot existed either

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I guess this was supposed to be my first ocarina and not Flitter's

sage dawn Aug 25, 2023, 2:01 PM

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Yeah

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I'll get it for you once work calms down

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 2:07 PM

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Why did you hint your 2nd ocarina

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it doesnt do anything

ancient harness Aug 25, 2023, 2:11 PM

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Because Flitter's wasn't happening

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And for some reason the first time I hinted the Ocarina I only got one of them

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 2:16 PM

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didnt flitter get it today

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@ancient harness archery time?

ancient harness Aug 25, 2023, 2:19 PM

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Real. Let me set up, join me in VC

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 2:20 PM

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this is gonna be great dinner entertainment

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thats how the grindset is..

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Last time you tried to stream your own rando it didnt work 02shrug

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much better

fierce vale Aug 25, 2023, 2:29 PM

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[Hint]: Chip1's Relic (Cake Slice) is at KF Storms Grotto Chest in @sage dawn 's World at Hyrule Field -> HF Inside Fence Grotto. (not found)
henlo, this please

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 2:32 PM

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HERE WE GO BAYBI

sage dawn Aug 25, 2023, 2:36 PM

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Will do

fierce vale Aug 25, 2023, 2:37 PM

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holy shit am i a dumbass, i thought a check required the umbrella that didn't and had basically a chapter locked behind it UraWheeze

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 2:37 PM

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this is really hard

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@ancient harness one check for 1000 one for 1500

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oomg

ancient harness Aug 25, 2023, 2:46 PM

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fierce vale Aug 25, 2023, 2:47 PM

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CattoCry i coulda got this like hour 1 of pokemon rather than basically completing it

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gosh darn it me

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 2:53 PM

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poooooooooog

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ty I needed those

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keyring is like 4 chests?

ancient harness Aug 25, 2023, 2:54 PM

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Yeah probably

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I know I already did the rest of GTg

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It's nice to have every GTG key at once. No wrong doors

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 3:00 PM

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the only way you can pick the wrong door is going to the right at the start

ancient harness Aug 25, 2023, 4:20 PM

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[Hint]: Wcctnoam's Zeldas Lullaby is at Spirit Temple Child Climb East Chest in Artiks's World at Kakariko Village -> Bottom of the Well. (not found)

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 6:00 PM

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another person with something important behind my song of storms ICANT

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 7:42 PM

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@sage dawn you probably know this.. If bottom of the well entrance is my spirit temple, does that mean all of the adult checks in spirit temple are barren?

sage dawn Aug 25, 2023, 7:58 PM

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weary lagoon <@98926797311188992> you probably know this.. If bottom of the well entrance is ...

If you have dungeon entrances randomized, lowering the water as child opens the well for adult too.

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They open up several entrances with that setting to both ages. Fire gets opened to child, and deku and well both get open for adult.

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The only really age locked entrances are forest, ganon's castle, jabu, and ice cavern.

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At least glitchless

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Also I learned a new way to use low grav iron boots to skip two keys in forest and I am proud of myself uwu

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Even though I learned it to avoid learning a precise megaflip that is significantly faster

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Although I do appear to need those keys for two pots so with my current settings it's not a full clear

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But it's a pretty much full clear

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 8:02 PM

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I wonder if Flitter found zeldas lullaby today

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 8:35 PM

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Only one way to find out

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 8:40 PM

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im actually going to die from 12 hearts with all these traps

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ppenk Thought you guys had gone ham today but I only got a boss key

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 8:42 PM

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I didn't find Zelda's lullaby. I found an ice trap

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Now it's time for me to do the trials

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 8:47 PM

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trying to figure out my path but I think im just locked behind you getting my longshot

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Have you talked to the altar in the temple of time to see where your forest medallion is?

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 8:57 PM

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No, I had no idea I could do that

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Let me do that real quick

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 8:58 PM

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You should do that and then come back with the good news of it not being in the shadow temple because your nocturne requires 3 spiritual stones

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 8:58 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/vTrsknS.png

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This altar?

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 8:58 PM

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yeah

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 8:59 PM

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Oh I probably need to do it as child because it's not telling me

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 8:59 PM

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when you do it as child it tells you where the stones are, adult tells you medallions

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you must have turned it off

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 9:00 PM

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Ah well

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Either way, Ganon's Castle is the only location available

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 9:01 PM

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you cant do the fire temple boss with megaton hammer and boss key?

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 9:02 PM

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Looks like I can't https://i.imgur.com/5Q9oCgJ.png

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Maybe there's a skip I could do!

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 9:02 PM

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what are your key settings

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in dungeon?

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 9:02 PM

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Yes

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📎 message.txt

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 9:02 PM

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then theres nothing stopping you from doing everything in the fire temple

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 9:03 PM

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Tracker says fuck you you can't do it

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 9:03 PM

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oh wait you have no hookshot?

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thats fked

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 9:03 PM

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No

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 9:03 PM

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wheres your hookshot..

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 9:05 PM

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In your Graveyard Royal Familys Tomb Chest

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https://i.imgur.com/GGvb8Kd.png

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weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 9:05 PM

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thats my hookshot in your graveyard royal familys tomb chest

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the one im stuck behind

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 9:05 PM

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Oh!

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Well I have no clue then

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I need three more points to hint for it

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 9:07 PM

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did the forest medallion hint go through

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 9:07 PM

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No, I decided I don't want to go for it

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 9:07 PM

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thats smart its at the end of a dungeon anyway

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 9:12 PM

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That's everything in Ganon's Castle

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It wa sall treash

ancient harness Aug 25, 2023, 9:12 PM

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Do you have hoverboots?

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 9:12 PM

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Not yet

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[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Progressive Hookshot is at ZR GS Tree in yay899's World. (not found) @sage dawn

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What's ZR GS Tree?

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Zora's River

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 9:13 PM

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Zoras river gold skulltula in a tree

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 9:13 PM

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Oh okay

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That should be easy!

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 9:13 PM

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yeah its sphere 0

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 9:13 PM

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Well you need to be able to reach Zora's river

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 9:14 PM

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No the tree is before the boulders

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 9:14 PM

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I mean you have to be able to get out of Kokiri forest

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 9:14 PM

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maybe its sphere 1 because you need something to kill the spider

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 9:14 PM

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The golden gauntlet pillar lifting ability is stupid

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What am I, the hulk?

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 9:15 PM

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💪

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 9:17 PM

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The fort skulltula reward https://i.imgur.com/uY860rA.png

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The 50 skulltula reward is just a single rupee

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 9:18 PM

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Yeah but all 100 is infinite rupees

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 9:18 PM

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Time for me to learn a skip. Is reverse wasteland hard?

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 9:18 PM

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No just follow what someone on youtube is doing

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 9:19 PM

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Can I do it with this automatic tracker's map instead? https://i.imgur.com/WblPR6m.png

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weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 9:20 PM

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I dunno I havent done that

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does your tracker say you cant do more in the spirit temple?

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 9:21 PM

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Correct

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 9:21 PM

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kinda weird

ancient harness Aug 25, 2023, 9:21 PM

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That looks accurate

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 9:21 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/me97Uw2.png

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weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 9:21 PM

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Only 3 checks when you can open up both child and adult side

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 9:22 PM

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I did those

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Okay, the tracker map works but I have no idea how to actually find the chest by the ghost pillar

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 9:22 PM

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light the torches

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 9:23 PM

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Oh there are torches

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Oh there's an area under the platform

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That makes way more sense

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 9:24 PM

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you're gonna have like 3-4 entire dungeons open for you once yay picks up your hookshot hehe

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this is pretty funny

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 9:25 PM

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He totally is

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Reverse wasteland was all good. I found a piece of heart

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Looks like I can't actually do any new skips yet

weary lagoon Aug 25, 2023, 9:26 PM

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yeah you're not getting any further without longshot or hoverboots

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unless you wanna learn how to bomb hover I guess

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 9:27 PM

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That one seems harder, so maybe a future run

midnight depot Aug 25, 2023, 9:53 PM

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Hover Badge for Chip2

fierce vale Aug 25, 2023, 11:18 PM

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NamazuThink i think chip1 might just be blocked until i get 34 total time pieces at which point i'll probably just beat the save and release it

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chip2 i'm still playing and has more checks, i haven't checked chipmon in a while since it had like 3 very specific items

sage dawn Aug 26, 2023, 3:53 AM

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Forgetting random low sphere checks is the theme of this run for me

midnight depot Aug 26, 2023, 3:53 AM

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Yeah, it's actually hard to keep nine hundred checks in mind

midnight depot Aug 26, 2023, 4:49 PM

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Hi, @sage dawn can you get me my hookshot in Zora River so I can play the game?

sage dawn Aug 26, 2023, 5:00 PM

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Yeah hold on gotta boot up my computer.

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Okay you're good to go

midnight depot Aug 26, 2023, 5:08 PM

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Thanks!

midnight depot Aug 26, 2023, 5:42 PM

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Before: https://i.imgur.com/M9qL8Ye.png
After: https://i.imgur.com/gkWZf2M.png

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Looks like Forest Temple is entirely available except for Phantom Ganon

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How can you even tell which surfaces can hookshot you?

weary lagoon Aug 26, 2023, 5:49 PM

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well theyre usually wood

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usually

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just experiment its not always consistent either

ancient harness Aug 26, 2023, 5:50 PM

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Also all chests

midnight depot Aug 26, 2023, 5:51 PM

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Dang

weary lagoon Aug 26, 2023, 5:51 PM

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Yep! They are made of wood

midnight depot Aug 26, 2023, 5:51 PM

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I guess I'll start with forest temple then

weary lagoon Aug 26, 2023, 5:51 PM

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cant you clear fire temple

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if your boss key is in the dungeon I guess you can clear forest too

midnight depot Aug 26, 2023, 6:02 PM

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I found my forest temple boss key

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https://i.imgur.com/nK8H5n7.png

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Yes, I can clear fire temple too

weary lagoon Aug 26, 2023, 6:07 PM

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no thats a deku nut

sage dawn Aug 26, 2023, 6:28 PM

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You can also hookshot those pillars with the circles on them

midnight depot Aug 26, 2023, 6:37 PM

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The ones with a funny top

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I figured

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And the wall circles too

midnight depot Aug 26, 2023, 6:54 PM

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FlitterOoT sent Master Ball to Chipmon (Forest Temple Falling Ceiling Room Chest)

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Go catch that rattata in Mewtwo's cave

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In the boss room my ocarina is greyed out

midnight depot Aug 26, 2023, 7:16 PM

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I am groot

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https://i.imgur.com/6Ujusae.png

Imgur

weary lagoon Aug 26, 2023, 7:17 PM

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what did the boss drop

midnight depot Aug 26, 2023, 7:19 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/y89Jos2.png

Imgur

weary lagoon Aug 26, 2023, 7:19 PM

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Miss..

midnight depot Aug 26, 2023, 7:20 PM

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Hm, hold on

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https://i.imgur.com/f124FM1.png

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Oops

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I walked all the way to the phantom ganon area

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Then accidentally entered the portal instead of picking the item up

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Hookshot 2 https://i.imgur.com/S5UwXta.png

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Time to do the fire temple

midnight depot Aug 26, 2023, 8:56 PM

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Volvagia time

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The reward was trash https://i.imgur.com/3ua5r0N.png

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And the forest medallion

midnight depot Aug 26, 2023, 9:37 PM

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Sheik had Zelda's Lullaby

ancient harness Aug 26, 2023, 9:37 PM

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Nice

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And thematic

midnight depot Aug 26, 2023, 9:37 PM

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And the map fucking lit up https://i.imgur.com/SrsJiyo.png

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ancient harness Aug 26, 2023, 9:37 PM

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ZL is huge

midnight depot Aug 26, 2023, 9:46 PM

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Hookshot for Artiks

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Prelude of Light

weary lagoon Aug 26, 2023, 9:58 PM

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after 2 weeks, I can finally play the game

midnight depot Aug 26, 2023, 9:58 PM

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FlitterOoT sent Snatcher's Contract - Queen Vanessa's Manor to Chip1 (DMT Great Fairy Reward)

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https://i.imgur.com/MGS0P3L.png Thanks I'm cured

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That's enough Zelda for today

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Remaining checks:
Spirit Temple: Compass Chest (A)
Gerudo Fortress: Chest on Top (A), Archery 1500 points (A)
Gerudo Training Ground: Before Heavy Block Chest (A), Heavy Block First Chest (A), Heavy Block Second Chest (A), Heavy Block Third Chest (A), Heavy Block Fourth Chest (A), Eye Statue Chest (A), Near Scarecrow Chest (A), Hammer Room Clear Chest (A),Hammer Room Switch Chest (A), Underwater Silver Rupee Chest (A), Maze Path Second Chest (A)
Water Temple: All
Ganon's Castle: Spirit Trial Crystal Switch Chest (A), Spirit Trial Invisible Chest (A), Light Trial Lullaby Chest (A)
Zora's Domain: Zora King (A)
Zora's Fountain: Great Fairy Fountain, Iceberg Piece of Heart (A), Bottom Piece of Heart (A)
Ice Cavern: All (including a song)
Death Mountain Crater: Great Fairy Fountain (A)

sage dawn Aug 27, 2023, 6:25 AM

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I've got a lot of random shit I missed to clean up, but I think at this point I'm mostly waiting for either hover boots or for Artik's to get me ZL from his final frogs

weary lagoon Aug 27, 2023, 6:25 AM

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I might be able to do that today now that I have longshot

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Do I need song of storms for that or is it everything except that one

sage dawn Aug 27, 2023, 6:32 AM

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You need every child song

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Sidenote, but if I skip the bulk of shadow and use a small key to unlock the room before the boss door, there is a very small chance that the seed can become unbeatable (if literally every other shadow key is locked in the middle of shadow). Should I avoid doing that?

weary lagoon Aug 27, 2023, 6:36 AM

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I wouldnt ppenk

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ive forgotten to get the poe until now so lets see what it is

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a red rupee!

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time to eat breakfast then ill grab everything in gerudo valley and whatever GTG is

weary lagoon Aug 27, 2023, 7:06 AM

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Wallet for Yay

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Goron tunic for wcct

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GTG is dodongos cavern

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Slingshot for Yay (or just ammo)

weary lagoon Aug 27, 2023, 7:47 AM

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The spirit temple is jabu jabu

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never been here as an adult ppenk

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oh my god I found my lullaby

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zora tunic for wcct

weary lagoon Aug 27, 2023, 8:55 AM

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@clear summit progressive weapons and progressive tools found

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Lullaby for @sage dawn

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and Lullaby for wcct

ancient harness Aug 27, 2023, 9:06 AM

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stpc_pppog

weary lagoon Aug 27, 2023, 9:27 AM

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Nice, I was waiting for that keyring

weary lagoon Aug 27, 2023, 10:16 AM

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@fierce vale hope you dont need this

fierce vale Aug 27, 2023, 10:19 AM

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PL_lunateehee it would be useful, i dont know how many spawn yarns are in the pool

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vanilla there are a shit tonne of spares

weary lagoon Aug 27, 2023, 10:23 AM

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I got it

weary lagoon Aug 27, 2023, 10:41 AM

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Flitters Herrah

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Alright im pretty much done with my game!

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I need these two and keyring for gerudo training grounds to get my last checks

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Other than that I just need 2 triforce pieces to win my goal

fierce vale Aug 27, 2023, 10:56 AM

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i need 3 more thingies to beat chip1

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i haven't checked if people got the stuff for chipmon in a while

midnight depot Aug 27, 2023, 10:56 AM

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Oh with Herrah I have all three dreamers at least known

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But I need the full ending so I gotta find the third king's fragment too

weary lagoon Aug 27, 2023, 11:02 AM

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Looks like chip found a triforce piece so one to go

fierce vale Aug 27, 2023, 11:18 AM

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awwyeah chip2 won

midnight depot Aug 27, 2023, 11:29 AM

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Nice work

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Oh, I already have voidheart

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I still need leftslash @clear summit

clear summit Aug 27, 2023, 11:32 AM

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I'll see if I can find a jungle biome

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I need amethyst for spyglass and a jungle biome for parrot

midnight depot Aug 27, 2023, 11:32 AM

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Good luck, and thank you in advance! You can also get it by finishing the game and releasing if it's too much trouble

clear summit Aug 27, 2023, 11:33 AM

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It all boils down to if I can find the stronghold

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I used random website to triangulate but I think the coordinates were off

fierce vale Aug 27, 2023, 11:40 AM

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you're running modded so the seed generation is probably different

clear summit Aug 27, 2023, 11:41 AM

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That can be true

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Worst case scenario I may need a structure compass

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WOW

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I think I have every structure compasses except Stronghold compass, if that exists

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I have to check

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ok Stronghold is never randomized and thus I think it doesn't have a compass

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Hoo boy time to grind a lot of Endermans and Blazes

midnight depot Aug 27, 2023, 11:56 AM

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Pale ore!

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Also,

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https://i.imgur.com/TnwrK4r.png

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My character is too down on itself

clear summit Aug 27, 2023, 12:21 PM

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GOT IT

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FOUND THE STRONGHOLD

midnight depot Aug 27, 2023, 12:22 PM

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Nice!

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Ice trap for Artiks

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It wasn't easy to get this one but I managed

clear summit Aug 27, 2023, 1:10 PM

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Yay. Time to grind.

clear summit Aug 27, 2023, 1:32 PM

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wait you cleared pokemon?

midnight depot Aug 27, 2023, 1:32 PM

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Who? https://i.imgur.com/gaBxnLv.png

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Oh my bad, I didn't connect properly

fierce vale Aug 27, 2023, 1:33 PM

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CatJam pokemon done

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2 out of 3 games done now just the last one

clear summit Aug 27, 2023, 1:34 PM

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I thought you need lift key rdsnrk

fierce vale Aug 27, 2023, 1:34 PM

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also i'm just releasing that because its just running around getting things

midnight depot Aug 27, 2023, 1:34 PM

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Thanks

fierce vale Aug 27, 2023, 1:34 PM

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i thought i did! apparently it didn't

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i apparently needed the card key not the lift key for opening the gym PL_lunateehee

clear summit Aug 27, 2023, 1:39 PM

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Wow I had literally nothing to get from your leftover checks

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cadancewheeze

fierce vale Aug 27, 2023, 1:41 PM

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CoolHat i got plenty more

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🙏 i need to be sent 2 more time pieces then its the clean sweep baybeee

midnight depot Aug 27, 2023, 1:49 PM

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Hint for them

fierce vale Aug 27, 2023, 1:49 PM

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i have no idea what the missing time pieces are called

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since they're all time piece (something)

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a not that urgent request for @sage dawn, theres like 8 checks behind it but i dont know what they are

sage dawn Aug 27, 2023, 1:54 PM

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Will get to it eventually. Have been procrastinating on that one because I don't have enough small keys to full clear shadow yet and it's out of logic because I don't have hovers.

midnight depot Aug 27, 2023, 1:55 PM

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How do I get to Zora's Domain as adult?

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Oh

ancient harness Aug 27, 2023, 1:56 PM

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ZL or hover boots

midnight depot Aug 27, 2023, 1:56 PM

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Play Zelda's lullaby to the waterfall to make it sleep

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I should have brought a bottle full of fire

ancient harness Aug 27, 2023, 1:57 PM

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That's what ice cavern is for

fierce vale Aug 27, 2023, 2:22 PM

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CoolHat you're welcome

weary lagoon Aug 27, 2023, 2:25 PM

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Looks like chip releasing gave me the last triforce piece

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so I just have to turn the game on to complete my goal

fierce vale Aug 27, 2023, 2:38 PM

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CoolHat

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(also i think its just the 8 checks on chip2 that are locked behind a key item, and the remaining are locked behind a bug that id need to update my hat in time randomiser mod to do which i cant be bothered so i'm just gonna release em after i get the yay based checks)

ancient harness Aug 27, 2023, 5:10 PM

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Alright, cleared everything except Shadow Temple

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[Hint]: Wcctnoam's Mirror Shield is at Colossus Great Fairy Reward in yay899's World. (not found)

midnight depot Aug 27, 2023, 5:11 PM

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Sun's Song

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And shadow temple boss key for Wcctnoam

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Boomerang for @sage dawn

weary lagoon Aug 27, 2023, 5:21 PM

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OMG the best item

midnight depot Aug 27, 2023, 5:21 PM

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Oh when Artiks got a recovery heart my HP got filled up all the way

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But when yay did, I got only one?

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Must be because it's a great fairy fountain

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That's enough for today. Tomorrow I'll go through the Water Temple

weary lagoon Aug 27, 2023, 5:33 PM

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yeah the fairy always heals you

midnight depot Aug 27, 2023, 5:33 PM

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Makes sense

ancient harness Aug 27, 2023, 7:57 PM

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I hate the shadow temple, but here I go

weary lagoon Aug 27, 2023, 8:02 PM

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I did it without lens this time around

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that was interesting

ancient harness Aug 27, 2023, 8:18 PM

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Lots of big chests in shadow temple

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Deku nuts are the best item in the game

weary lagoon Aug 27, 2023, 8:35 PM

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hm

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my favorite use is on the poes in forest temple

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dont use em much outside of that

ancient harness Aug 27, 2023, 8:37 PM

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Bongo Bongo can go fuck himself

ancient harness Aug 27, 2023, 8:38 PM

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weary lagoon dont use em much outside of that

Great against the hands, and the tiny hands

weary lagoon Aug 27, 2023, 8:38 PM

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hes so easy...

ancient harness Aug 27, 2023, 8:38 PM

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Monarch wings!

weary lagoon Aug 27, 2023, 8:38 PM

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I think I only hate Twinrowa

ancient harness Aug 27, 2023, 8:38 PM

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weary lagoon hes so easy...

Maybe if you can control where you aim

weary lagoon Aug 27, 2023, 8:38 PM

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Twinrowa fucking sucks

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you can lock on on that boss!

ancient harness Aug 27, 2023, 8:39 PM

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And somehow Z never wants to pick the other hand

weary lagoon Aug 27, 2023, 8:39 PM

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Twinrowa easily the worst
Phantom Ganon can be a pain
Volvagia so fkn boring

ancient harness Aug 27, 2023, 8:40 PM

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Alright, time to get my "light arrows" and that's BK mode for me

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Alright

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Good checks, Monarch Wings for Flitter

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Straight from Bongo Bongo himself

weary lagoon Aug 27, 2023, 8:41 PM

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are you just using mirror shield to complete

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missing*

ancient harness Aug 27, 2023, 8:42 PM

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And Song of TIme

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After that I think I'm done

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Though I don't have ganon's Castle's keyring, and if I need the boss key I don't have it either

weary lagoon Aug 27, 2023, 8:42 PM

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you do

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the medallion altar hints ganons boss key

ancient harness Aug 27, 2023, 8:43 PM

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I'll check

weary lagoon Aug 27, 2023, 8:43 PM

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What is song of time needed for?

ancient harness Aug 27, 2023, 8:44 PM

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Ganon is unlocked

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So I could've finished the game ever since I got light arrows, but that doesn't seem right to do

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I'll wait for keyring of the trial doors and count that as my boss key

midnight depot Aug 28, 2023, 9:52 AM

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Good morning. Time for a spot of OoT

midnight depot Aug 28, 2023, 10:39 AM

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Who designed the water temple? I just want to talk

ancient harness Aug 28, 2023, 10:41 AM

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Missing a lot of stuff in it because of no Song of Time

midnight depot Aug 28, 2023, 10:47 AM

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Why would anyone make this room? https://i.imgur.com/fD74xye.png

Imgur

ancient harness Aug 28, 2023, 11:04 AM

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You just need long shot

midnight depot Aug 28, 2023, 11:04 AM

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I have long shot, it's just annoying

midnight depot Aug 28, 2023, 11:33 AM

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Morpha had a timepiece for Chip1

fierce vale Aug 28, 2023, 11:35 AM

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woke

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1 more time piece till the triple threat

midnight depot Aug 28, 2023, 11:39 AM

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And hookshot for yay

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That's all in the water temple

midnight depot Aug 28, 2023, 1:15 PM

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Lead for Jay

weary lagoon Aug 28, 2023, 1:26 PM

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ancient harness You just need long shot

you only have hookshot there in vanilla its pretty awful

midnight depot Aug 28, 2023, 1:28 PM

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Looks like Hollow Knight is back to BK mode

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I have the most checks locked behind Grimmchild2

fierce vale Aug 28, 2023, 1:30 PM

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peek_HP is that something that can be aquired by someone through a hint

midnight depot Aug 28, 2023, 1:30 PM

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I'm out of hints!

fierce vale Aug 28, 2023, 1:33 PM

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fair enough!

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you can use hints to find out what a couple of your own checks are right? i have like 3 checks i can get on both hat in time saves and wanna hint em

clear summit Aug 28, 2023, 1:34 PM

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sry, I'll struggle playing any Minecraft for few days, I have reserve force training for 4 days and I get exhausted after it

midnight depot Aug 28, 2023, 1:35 PM

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Yes, you can do hints for your own locations

clear summit Aug 28, 2023, 1:35 PM

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Didn't expect to be this busy starlightexhausted

fierce vale Aug 28, 2023, 1:35 PM

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is it just !hint (check) ?

midnight depot Aug 28, 2023, 1:35 PM

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I think it was !hint_location

fierce vale Aug 28, 2023, 1:35 PM

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🤘

midnight depot Aug 28, 2023, 1:36 PM

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    Use !hint_location {location_name},
        for example !hint_location atomic-bomb to get a spoiler peek for that location.```

midnight depot Aug 28, 2023, 2:09 PM

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Yarn for Chip2

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And another yarn

fierce vale Aug 28, 2023, 2:27 PM

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awwyeah all games done

midnight depot Aug 28, 2023, 2:31 PM

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Nice work

fierce vale Aug 28, 2023, 2:32 PM

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PL_lunateehee and just releasing since theres like 10 checks i could get and the rest are bugged unless i updated

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awwyeah i got your funny item

midnight depot Aug 28, 2023, 2:33 PM

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Yes, that's the last of the dreamers

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Now I only need a king's fragment to finish Hollow Knight

fierce vale Aug 28, 2023, 2:34 PM

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rdwut if we started litterally like 2 days later i wouldn't have run into like half the bugs i did

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CoolHat i'll wait till yay sends me her item for chip2 and complete that stuff before releasing it at least

midnight depot Aug 28, 2023, 2:40 PM

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Apparently you could skip the stupid climbing section in Spirit Temple with longshot

ancient harness Aug 28, 2023, 2:40 PM

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That's a must

midnight depot Aug 28, 2023, 2:58 PM

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Spirit Temple is done, and that gives me the Kokiri emerald, meaning I get a bunch of checks for child Link

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The ocarina of time was one rupee and taught me the nocturne of shadow

midnight depot Aug 28, 2023, 3:21 PM

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Okay, that's all I can get without hoverboots

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I could do the biggoron quest but I'll do it later

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 12:40 AM

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Biggoron had a recovery heart for Artiks, and now I'm back in BK mode. Let's see if Hollow Knight has more checks

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Nope!

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Just gotta wait until Jay or yay play again

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Bow for yay

clear summit Aug 29, 2023, 12:51 AM

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Sorrrry

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 12:52 AM

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Turns out I had two more checks in Hollow Knight! For some reason I finally fulfilled the requirements to fight the white defender, and I also opened the egg temple which has one check.

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 3:05 AM

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Hello, friends. This is a reminder that this game is scheduled to end by the end of August 31.

I intend to start a September game so if you're interested, think about how much time you want to play over the month and what games you want to play.

I think starting by next Sunday, September 3rd, is a good idea, but if you need more time to think, Thursday, September 7th is a good candidate.

clear summit Aug 29, 2023, 4:07 AM

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I'll try my best to finish

ancient harness Aug 29, 2023, 8:20 AM

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wtf are you supposed to do if you run out of magic in Ganon's fight

fierce vale Aug 29, 2023, 8:21 AM

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pull a piece

ancient harness Aug 29, 2023, 8:25 AM

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What?

fierce vale Aug 29, 2023, 8:27 AM

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~~it was a joke saying you should just pull a gun Froyo_gun ~~

ancient harness Aug 29, 2023, 8:27 AM

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Oh

weary lagoon Aug 29, 2023, 8:50 AM

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Pots under him right

ancient harness Aug 29, 2023, 8:55 AM

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They have me nothing

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They gave me arrows

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And rupees for some reason

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Are you supposed to just reload?

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 9:16 AM

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Bring a green potion next time?

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You can let him break the castle walls to drop stuff

ancient harness Aug 29, 2023, 9:26 AM

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I can't buy green potions

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I wonder where my second magic meter is, but no hints left

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 9:29 AM

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Did you shuffle scrubs and shops?

ancient harness Aug 29, 2023, 9:29 AM

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Yeah

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 9:29 AM

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If you want extra hints I can look in the spoiler log for you

ancient harness Aug 29, 2023, 9:29 AM

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Nah

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 9:29 AM

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Okay, good luck!

ancient harness Aug 29, 2023, 9:30 AM

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Eeyup

fierce vale Aug 29, 2023, 9:30 AM

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twicrazy now i gotta figure out what i wanna do next time

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twicrazy gonna add 1 more game every time we do this, i can do 4 games, i believe in me

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 9:34 AM

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Just do one game with four thousand checks

fierce vale Aug 29, 2023, 9:35 AM

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gonna add ds2 but add a possible check for exhausting every single enemy in the game

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i will make it so you have to kill giant3 in tower of flame 10 times for a key item

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 9:36 AM

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HFV is gonna be a nightmare

fierce vale Aug 29, 2023, 9:42 AM

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i mean, that just how you gotta clear it anyway

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 9:45 AM

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I usually do my three NPC summons and then run the hell away through the buildings

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Encountering three to five dang deer on the way to Lud and Zallen

fierce vale Aug 29, 2023, 9:46 AM

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unrelated; presming my memory of hollow knight is like, the first 1/4 of the game, would it be reliable for me to do it in the randomiser with the map? ~~if so what settings/can i just steal yours~~

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 9:46 AM

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Absolutely

fierce vale Aug 29, 2023, 9:46 AM

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🤘

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 9:47 AM

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I'll make a set of recommendations for you. Don't steal mine because they're really designed for use with my modset

fierce vale Aug 29, 2023, 9:48 AM

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i'll probably do ds3+hk+pokemon emerald, though i wanna check some things before i lock that in

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 9:49 AM

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What's your preference regarding splitting dashing, attacking, swimming (in acid or water) and crystal dash?

Having them split can be a frustration all the way to the end of the game because technically you don't need all sides so the logic doesn't give them to you

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But it's a limitation that's fun for some people

fierce vale Aug 29, 2023, 9:49 AM

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im fine with that

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 9:50 AM

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Okay.

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 10:13 AM

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📎 Chipknight.yaml

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These are my recommendations for you

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They randomize as many things as possible, do not randomize geo rocks (There's like 400 of those, but you're free to turn the option on if you like.) and they don't expect you to do any skips

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You may want to lower the maximum charm requirement if you don't want to wait until you get every single charm. 25 is a good number.

fierce vale Aug 29, 2023, 10:15 AM

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flutternod that sounds alright, i might turn on the rocks because big number settings are fun, but i'll check when i get home

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 10:16 AM

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This also makes it so your charms cost 55 notches in total instead of 90

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Around two thirds of the normal amount. This tends to make the game a little easier, so change it to -1 if you want vanilla costs, or -2 if you want to shuffle

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Finally, I've made it so each shop has 8 items, and 32 extra slots are distributed into all shops

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You can pump this number up to 16, but this will add random geo rocks into the pool to balance it out

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 11:38 AM

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I'd better start looking at yaml files when I get home

weary lagoon Aug 29, 2023, 12:41 PM

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I think I will skip september

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they will have ootmm ready for the next one fooor suuure 🍕

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 12:46 PM

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Yea, the plan for MM is implement OOTMM. Then rip out the OoT for MM solo is a quote I've seen, so maybe

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On the other it's not going to be any time soon

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They're waiting for development on OoTMM to slow down before they start

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They can't work on the individual MM randomizer because the license is not compatible and the developers of the randomizer don't have the time to make sure they can grant an exception

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 1:11 PM

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weird

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was it a GPL vs permissive thing?

weary lagoon Aug 29, 2023, 1:18 PM

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Last time I looked around the issue was that the MM rando was coded in another language than Archi

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Im interested in the full OOTMM anyway

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 1:19 PM

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Language is not relevant

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Archipelago integration is its own code for each project

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 1:20 PM

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yeah, it'd be pretty rubbish as a cross-randomizer protocol if it wasn't even a language-independent protocol

fierce vale Aug 29, 2023, 5:29 PM

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fs_fascinating imma just release chip2 too since we're close to the deadline and idk how much yay will play in the next couple of days (if at all)

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 5:30 PM

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That makes sense. Without further drops I still can't finish my Hollow Knight game

fierce vale Aug 29, 2023, 5:30 PM

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that had grimmchild2

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and progressive scale

weary lagoon Aug 29, 2023, 5:30 PM

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dont really wanna release

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 5:31 PM

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Oh I need that

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 5:31 PM

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weary lagoon dont really wanna release

It's fine! The game is planned to be done by August 31 but we can go over until you're satisfied with it

weary lagoon Aug 29, 2023, 5:31 PM

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well im done

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 5:31 PM

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I'm certainly not releasing hollow knight until I'm done

fierce vale Aug 29, 2023, 5:32 PM

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PL_lunateehee i released mine when it was "run through levels pickin up checks that will just take an age" barring chip2, which was locked behind yay playing a fair amount more

weary lagoon Aug 29, 2023, 5:32 PM

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i just have 3-4% left I can get with items from yay and one unknown

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 5:32 PM

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That makes sense.

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By the way, Hollow Knight got an archipelago update

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So update the mod

fierce vale Aug 29, 2023, 5:33 PM

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dumbtiktok i got you a bow and a golden skulltula if that helps artikins

weary lagoon Aug 29, 2023, 5:33 PM

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these and gtg keyring can get me checks

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 5:34 PM

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Grimmchild2 has like twelve checks? It's nice!

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11 checks

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Including shadow temple key for yay, claim check for Wcctnoam

ancient harness Aug 29, 2023, 5:53 PM

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Big Goron's greatest work was deku seeds

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 5:55 PM

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He spent six years on those seeds

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 6:56 PM

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so I'm looking at Link to the Past settings

Bush Shuffle
Randomize chance that a bush contains an enemy as well as which enemy may spawn

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this sounds hilarious

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 7:01 PM

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It also means you'll be forced to systematically destroy every bush

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 7:01 PM

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wait, that includes non-trash mobs with important item drops?

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 7:02 PM

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I don't know!

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 7:02 PM

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lol

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A Hat In Time isn't listed on the archipelago site; where does one go to set that up? (or is it still in an "experts-only" state?)

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 7:14 PM

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Manually edit a YAML

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A Hat in Time is almost finished but it's only implemented in apworld form right now

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There may be a few bugs but it'll work fine if you follow instructions. Chip might know more

fierce vale Aug 29, 2023, 7:29 PM

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if you dont use the portrait randomiser it theoretically works without bugs

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the two major bugs i ran into are fixed

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 7:30 PM

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The portrait randomizer sounds as bad as the Mario 64 Mario color randomizer

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(It gives your character random colors, including racially insensitive ones)

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 7:31 PM

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I think I've done all the required setup for Blasphemous and LttP, but when trying to test LttP I can't seem to get RetroArch and Archipelago to talk to each other cocothink

fierce vale Aug 29, 2023, 7:31 PM

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it puts the subcon forest portraits into the randomisation item pool, so you need a bunch of random progression checks for it

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 7:31 PM

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I see

fierce vale Aug 29, 2023, 7:32 PM

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i think at the moment it just doesnt put them into the correct spheres? theyve been talking about it today in the discord, but i didnt read it all

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 7:32 PM

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fresh hill I think I've done all the required setup for Blasphemous and LttP, but when tryi...

I can look at it tomorrow. Bizhawk may be simpler since we know how to operate that

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For Bizhawk, you start Bizhawk then load the correct ROM file then start the archipelago connector client then load the lua script that connects the two

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Any other order and it goes bad

fierce vale Aug 29, 2023, 7:36 PM

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oh also apparently theres a bug based on having multiple hatty time players, that i didnt run into

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 7:36 PM

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I am out of ideas for getting it to launch RetroArch so I'll try the BizHawk instructions

fierce vale Aug 29, 2023, 7:36 PM

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to do with hat unlocks

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bizhawk is super easy from using it with pokemon red

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 7:47 PM

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I must be missing something because half these setup instructions refer to things that don't exist

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 7:48 PM

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Do you have the correct version of Bizhawk?

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 7:48 PM

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https://archipelago.gg/tutorial/A Link to the Past/multiworld/en doesn't mention a specific version

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 7:49 PM

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You might need to install the archipelago software again (and check the components that allow you to generate a game)

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 7:49 PM

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I already did that to install the LttP patch thing, even downloaded an older version of the ROM to pass its validation

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 7:49 PM

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There is a specific version and it's either 2.7 or 2.9. Let me check

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 7:49 PM

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ok so the instructions are missing something that basic starlightexhausted

fierce vale Aug 29, 2023, 7:49 PM

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2.7

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 7:50 PM

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2.7. Lua integration was changed later and you need a completely different script

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There is a script for newer versions but I don't know how to get it to work

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 7:52 PM

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ok, on 2.7, step 1 mostly points to a real menu option, so that's a good sign

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uh... let's try 64-bit connector script?

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oh you said archipelago first

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 7:55 PM

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The connector script has to remain in the archipelago folder, so don't move it to the Bizhawk Lua folder

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 7:55 PM

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ok, wasn't moving it but gtk

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yeah I don't think that worked either

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 7:57 PM

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Oh you also have to have a game to connect to

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 7:58 PM

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the Lua Console has "Connected to SNI", the Archipelago SNI Client has "Attached the luabridge://...", but nothing randomizer-y happens even if I make a new save file, or after I try running the /connect archipelago command the site gave me

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 7:58 PM

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Are you loading the original ROM or the modified one?

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 7:58 PM

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original Japanese rom, no revs

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 7:59 PM

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From the game page on archipelago.gg you will get a file that launches Bizhawk and the connector app

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That file will launch the correct ROM. The randomized one

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 7:59 PM

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it said the same thing about retroarch but all that .alttp file does is launch the sni client which then complains there's no snes anywhere

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:00 PM

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Hmm

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Did you randomize the Japanese ROM?

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:00 PM

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I don't know what that means

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:00 PM

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You need to do that locally through the archipelago launcher (independent from the client)

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So generate a game locally and use the original ROM to generate a ROM with randomized items

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I can do that for you if it seems like too much work

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After you generate a game locally, you can host it on archipelago.gg and resume normally

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:02 PM

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I'm just confused, that doesn't sound like it'd help with making an actual Archipelago multi-world game connect to all of this

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:02 PM

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Right now it looks to me like you can connect but there's no game to connect to in Bizhawk

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And there's no game because you haven't made one yet

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:03 PM

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ok I'm already getting contradictory claims here

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:03 PM

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You can't connect to the original Japanese ROM because the items there are not randomized

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:03 PM

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is double-clicking the .aplttp file supposed to launch an emulator or not?

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:03 PM

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Not sure! With OoT it will launch the emulator

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It may be different for alttp

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:04 PM

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again, the instructions on https://archipelago.gg/tutorial/A Link to the Past/multiworld/en say it will launch whatever emulator I have installed

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but you basically just said it won't launch BizHawk

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:04 PM

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Sounds good

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:04 PM

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and in practice it launches nothing and still doesn't work even when I had BizHawk with the rom loaded

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:05 PM

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Well, what I'm saying is you don't seem to have a randomized ROM in the first place. Do you?

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:05 PM

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does "randomized rom" mean something other than the .aplttp file?

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:06 PM

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Yeah. The aplttp file just looks through your archipelago installation for the correct randomized ROM and launches it

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Let me take a screenshot of my OoT installation

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:06 PM

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huh, the linked instructions don't say anything about a randomized rom, just the regular rom and the .aplttp

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:08 PM

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If .aplttp doesn't launch the emulator for you, you have to launch it yourself and find the randomized ROM to put in the emulator but things should work after

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fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:09 PM

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oh hang on, I changed my .sfc program from retroarch to bizhawk, and now double-clicking the .aplttp launches bizhawk with the rom

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:09 PM

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Here you see the correct ROM on top and the vanilla one fourth in the list

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:09 PM

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ok this looks randomizery

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:09 PM

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Great!

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:09 PM

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"Ganon has moved around all the items in Hyrule and beyond." rdwut

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:10 PM

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With the randomized game running, it's time to start the archipelago client if you haven't, then the lua script last.

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:10 PM

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do you mean the arch text client, in addition to the sni client it auto-opened?

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:11 PM

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So there are four things to connect:
The game hosted on archipelago.gg, which talks to
The archipelago SNI client, which talks to,
The lua script, which talks to
Bizhawk.

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The text client is unnecessary

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:11 PM

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ok

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that looks like it worked

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:12 PM

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Excellent

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:13 PM

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yep the site's room log is showing proper connection messages

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:13 PM

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Ideally you would test with another game so you can make sure you have the ability to send and receive items but that never becomes a problem in practice

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:13 PM

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ok that looks pretty randomized

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:14 PM

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That's all you need! See you when we play next

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:14 PM

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the first chest has a rupee instead of a lantern

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:14 PM

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Hell yeah. The code above is the seed

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:14 PM

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I think I'm convinced this is working

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yeah, displaying the seed via items is a cute choice

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:15 PM

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Yeah if the log says you sent yourself an item then it certainly can send and usually that means it can receive

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:15 PM

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TIL you can kill enemies by throwing bushes

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but that's enough of that

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:15 PM

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You should play OoT with no Kokiri sword

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There are surprisingly many ways to kill enemies anyway

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:16 PM

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midnight depot Yeah if the log says you sent yourself an item then it certainly can send and us...

[root at 2023-08-29 20:14:08,586]: (Team #1) Ixrec sent Rupees (20) to Ixrec (Link's House)

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:16 PM

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Funniest of which are sticks that break after one attack

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Yeah well done

weary lagoon Aug 29, 2023, 8:16 PM

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surprisingly many

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you mentioned the one way before you get bombs

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:17 PM

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now I should probably double-check that Blasphemous also works with the "Generate Game" button on the arch site

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:17 PM

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Well you have bombs, gauntlets, magic, slingshot, arrows, epona

weary lagoon Aug 29, 2023, 8:18 PM

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you're a child so scratch some of those

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:19 PM

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Hmm

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:21 PM

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oh yeah I am missing a few steps here

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:21 PM

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Apparently you can never start as adult without the master sword.

weary lagoon Aug 29, 2023, 8:26 PM

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thats true you cant turn into an adult without it

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:31 PM

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mmm, Blasphemous is still claiming "The required mods are not installed" for multiworld, though I just did a clean uninstall and reinstall of the game and the mods

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:33 PM

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I've no clue how blasphemous works but I'll be glad to try to get it to work when I have time tomorrow

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:34 PM

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to be precise

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:37 PM

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You can use the Mod Installer to uninstall the Randomizer and Multiworld mods, and then grab the correct versions from GitHub.

Mod Installer: https://github.com/BrandenEK/Blasphemous-Mod-Installer/releases/tag/1.0.1
Randomizer 1.4.5: https://github.com/BrandenEK/Blasphemous-Randomizer/releases/tag/1.4.5
Multiworld 1.0.3: https://github.com/BrandenEK/Blasphemous-Multiworld/releases/tag/1.0.3

If you would like to test the new features of Randomizer 2.0 early, you can add the `blasphemous.apworld` file to your worlds folder (default path: `C:\ProgramData\Archipelago\lib\worlds`) and generate a game locally. Here is also a template yaml with all of the new options that you can use. Then you can either upload it to the Archipelago website like normal, or host the game yourself.```

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Apparently the docs are outdated and the website has not been updated in a while

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:38 PM

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wow

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:38 PM

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The next major version is coming soon

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You can generate a blasphemous game using the local setup instead and that should work

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Or you could downgrade

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:40 PM

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I don't even know what "the local setup" you're referring to, is that something usable in an actual archipelago game?

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:41 PM

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Yes

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Just like how the last paragraph points out

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All you need to do is use the archipelago launcher to generate a local game then host it later on archipelago.gg

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For that you need the .apworld file (like in A Hat of Time)

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It's a CLI application but you shouldn't need any arguments.

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:43 PM

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oh "local" here means the Archipelago setup is a file on my machine instead of something the website or you manage

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:43 PM

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Yes. You create a random list of items and write it into a file that archipelago.gg hosts

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Rather than doing the same but on their remote servers

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:44 PM

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anyway I already downloaded the old mod versions and it looks like that fixed everything

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:44 PM

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Excellent

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:45 PM

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[root at 2023-08-29 20:44:48,424]: (Team #1) Ixrec sent Knot of Rosary Rope to Ixrec (BotSS: Beginning gift)

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nice, I burned a great starting item on the test run lol

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:46 PM

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If anyone else uses a .apworld file then it won't be any extra effort for me to generate a blasphemous game on the new version

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:46 PM

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if you're asking whether I care about which version of the Blasphemous randomizer we use, I do not

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considering this just seemingly worked, I assume the yaml I already made using the arch site is happy with these older versions

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:47 PM

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Yeah

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:51 PM

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the optional PopTracker integration also seems to work, though unfortunately it doesn't show rosary knots so not 100% on that

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thanks for finding all those arcana

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on the one hand this makes me hesitant to try adding a third game, but on the other Hat in Time is the only one of these three that we've had someone play before so it should be less of a headache, especially considering what chip said about that just getting an update?

midnight depot Aug 29, 2023, 8:55 PM

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I don't know if you should jump from one game to three but you know you. Remember that you'll be expected to put enough time to finish them all in around three or so weeks

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 8:56 PM

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you're right, let's stick to two

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if I was just replaying each of these games vanilla then it would barely take one week to do all three, but of course the point of the randomization is to introduce a bunch of complications

fresh hill Aug 29, 2023, 9:13 PM

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oh right, I nearly forgot the most important step

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📎 Ixrec_LttP.yaml 📎 Ixrec_Blasphemous.yaml

fierce vale Aug 30, 2023, 10:22 AM

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peek_HP just encase it changes your mind about things, hattie time just fixed like, most of its bugs that i knew about and has a poptracker up and working

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NamazuThink i think i'll stick to 3, i could defo easily fit all 4 games in i wanna play but i'll be nice to myself and give myself leeway on hk

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twicrazy now i just gotta decide between hattie time again, or ds3 again

fresh hill Aug 30, 2023, 11:08 AM

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yeah, I think I'd rather have the leeway to deal with any further technical issues, and just the fact that jumping between two different games I've only played once before is already a lot to keep track of

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especially since unfortunately both of these have setup steps I have to remember to redo every single time I launch either game

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 1:18 PM

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Good afternoon

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No new items for my Hollow Knight game, but on OoT I have the golden scale!

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That means I can do the Lake Hylia lab dive

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It was just one deku nut for Artiks

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Maybe I'll try a no hover boot skip for shadow temple if one exists

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Meanwhile:
[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Hover Boots is at LH GS Lab Wall in yay899's World. (not found) @sage dawn

clear summit Aug 30, 2023, 1:31 PM

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Ok I can go to End now

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 1:33 PM

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Nice!

clear summit Aug 30, 2023, 1:34 PM

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Watching bed tutorials

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 1:34 PM

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I did the megaflip https://i.imgur.com/WDkVTK3.png

Imgur

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Oh god, now I have to do one into a moving platform https://i.imgur.com/dk4nlpS.png

Imgur

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I don't think I'll do that. I'll just wait for hover boots

clear summit Aug 30, 2023, 1:56 PM

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Time to go

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 1:56 PM

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Oh neat

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What's this advancements bar and why does it stop at 40?

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Also, since you seem to be equipped with diamond gear, why are you going with bed strats?

clear summit Aug 30, 2023, 2:07 PM

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:( didn't go well

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 2:07 PM

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aw

clear summit Aug 30, 2023, 2:09 PM

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My defense is shit (no diamond armor/no shield/no potions to buff), cheesing is easier
My aim is shit, my arrows barely hit

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The advancement bar is there because Ender Dragon is locked until 40 advancements

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That shit is legit hiding the Ender Dragon health, I have to find a way to remove it

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 2:10 PM

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I see

clear summit Aug 30, 2023, 2:10 PM

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Honestly I almost feel like giving up this point

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 2:11 PM

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That's absolutely fine. You did the work. The game's only good for as long as it is fun.

clear summit Aug 30, 2023, 2:12 PM

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Also I have no idea why the console thinks I already killed the dragon

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 2:12 PM

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That's silly

clear summit Aug 30, 2023, 2:12 PM

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I did the dragon fight for 10+minutes

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I couldn't even see the health bar

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I used like 100 arrows and destroyed like what

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5 crystals or smth

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 2:14 PM

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Looks like this is an issue that sometimes happens.

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As long as you get a dragon next time it'll be fine

sage dawn Aug 30, 2023, 2:19 PM

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midnight depot Oh god, now I have to do one into a moving platform https://i.imgur.com/dk4nlpS....

No you can just jump that.

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 2:19 PM

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Well maybe you can

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I gave it around ten tries

sage dawn Aug 30, 2023, 2:20 PM

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You have to jump as it's falling. Kinda awkward.

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 2:20 PM

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Oh!

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That makes sense

sage dawn Aug 30, 2023, 2:20 PM

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But yeah I can get you hovers now that I have boomerang.

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Also congrats on learning to megaflip!

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 2:20 PM

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Thanks. I tried the non-Nayru's Love megaflip and it was pretty tricky. The magic one is a bit easier.

sage dawn Aug 30, 2023, 2:21 PM

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Yeah the magic one is a lot more lenient.

clear summit Aug 30, 2023, 2:21 PM

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...

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I think I give up, I can def do this but I am too tired and exhausted.

sage dawn Aug 30, 2023, 2:22 PM

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I generally do the non-magic method but I never learned a setup so I only succeed like 1 out of 6 times.

clear summit Aug 30, 2023, 2:22 PM

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I have 9-5 reserve force training for 4 days since monday, I cannot even afford a lot of time

sage dawn Aug 30, 2023, 2:22 PM

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Would not recommend trying to time things by feeling.

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Whoa I know two Jays who are in the reserves now?

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 2:23 PM

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clear summit I think I give up, I can def do this but I am too tired and exhausted.

Understandable. If you want to return to it later, it's fine, but if you're done, please do !release now.

clear summit Aug 30, 2023, 2:23 PM

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Also I genuinely do not know how to turn off this advancement bar thing

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It hides boss health bar and it's so annoying

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 2:24 PM

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You might be able to do it by just editing the mod files

clear summit Aug 30, 2023, 2:24 PM

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snailfail

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gg

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 2:24 PM

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Leftslash!

sage dawn Aug 30, 2023, 2:24 PM

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Mod doesn't add anything to settings?

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gg

clear summit Aug 30, 2023, 2:25 PM

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The saddest part is that

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Literally only Leftslash and Bolero of Fire matters

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 2:26 PM

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Correct. We're in the end game!

clear summit Aug 30, 2023, 2:26 PM

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Does Bolero of Fire matter actually

weary lagoon Aug 30, 2023, 2:26 PM

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Bolero is pretty optional

clear summit Aug 30, 2023, 2:26 PM

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Yeah

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 2:26 PM

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Bolero of Fire is a quick teleport to fire temple. Very convenient

clear summit Aug 30, 2023, 2:26 PM

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So I basically had 1 meaningful check left.

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I was 50% complete

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snailfail

weary lagoon Aug 30, 2023, 2:27 PM

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sometimes its required in logic if you get it before hookshot or something

sage dawn Aug 30, 2023, 2:27 PM

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There are two checks locked behind it in logic but you can megaflip for both of them.

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Child bean patch skull and the the heart piece you get to with the bean as adult.

clear summit Aug 30, 2023, 2:27 PM

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Uhhh I guess there was a slingshot for wcct

sage dawn Aug 30, 2023, 2:27 PM

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Also yeah what Artiks said

clear summit Aug 30, 2023, 2:29 PM

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What I learned is that Minecraft sucks for Archipelago

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 2:29 PM

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Is there no way to get to shadow temple aside from the song?

sage dawn Aug 30, 2023, 2:29 PM

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Not glitchless

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 2:29 PM

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Minecraft might be better if you're playing with a bunch of other minecrafts (in a synchronous game)

sage dawn Aug 30, 2023, 2:30 PM

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We should do Minecraft bingo some time.

clear summit Aug 30, 2023, 2:30 PM

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Maybe, if the "no hard achievement" shit actually works

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 2:31 PM

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Well it looks like "no hard achievements" had no important checks hidden behind hard achievements. Is that true?

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I am definitely not interested in a Minecraft bingo, but I'm interested in the bingo concept in general

clear summit Aug 30, 2023, 2:31 PM

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I mean the thing is

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I don't even know exactly what is considered as "hard advancement"

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Also structure randomizer sucks

sage dawn Aug 30, 2023, 2:32 PM

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It would be nice if they let you disable advancements individually like oot does

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 2:32 PM

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That makes sense

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[Hint]: FlitterHK's Dashmaster is at GF HBA 1500 Points in FlitterOoT's World. (not found)

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I'm never getting Dashmaster

sage dawn Aug 30, 2023, 2:32 PM

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Hah get fucked

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Dude I hate that check

ancient harness Aug 30, 2023, 2:33 PM

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That check indeed sucks

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I did it at 75% speed emulation, but I'm using keyboard

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And I'll never do it again

sage dawn Aug 30, 2023, 2:33 PM

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It is better with controller but not much

clear summit Aug 30, 2023, 2:35 PM

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Honestly looking back it wasn't actually super awful. It just requires time and is quite tedious.

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I can definitely "complete" it if I have bunch of time and will to grind stuff

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Or if I was good

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skill issue

sage dawn Aug 30, 2023, 2:36 PM

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Probably better when everyone is playing low check count games and I haven't dumped like 850 junk items into the pool.

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 2:37 PM

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Yeah. It can be pretty frustrating to do a bunch of work only to find one rupee for someone else

clear summit Aug 30, 2023, 2:38 PM

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Like it's really weird

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 2:38 PM

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Time to do the skip again since I closed the game

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https://i.imgur.com/DSQGs2m.png

Imgur

clear summit Aug 30, 2023, 2:38 PM

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With structure randomizer, Ender dragon technically requires only one check. Brewing.

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 2:39 PM

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The thing that makes timing the skip hard is I can't reach 60 FPS here

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 2:39 PM

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clear summit With structure randomizer, Ender dragon technically requires only *one* check. B...

Makes sense why they'd lock it behind forty then

clear summit Aug 30, 2023, 2:39 PM

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Yeah, and you can adjust it if you want

sage dawn Aug 30, 2023, 2:40 PM

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Dude oot runs at 20 fps

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 2:40 PM

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Hmm

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If I press fast forward I can get to 80FPS

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So maybe it's just emulating an N64 and it lags here to 45

sage dawn Aug 30, 2023, 2:41 PM

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Yeah bizhawk is meant for tassing so I think it emulates console lag.

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 2:41 PM

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Oops, jumped too far

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There!

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How come some wallmasters split into small hands when killed and some don't?

weary lagoon Aug 30, 2023, 2:45 PM

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I wonder if HBA is the hardest heart piece in a zelda game

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 2:47 PM

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Turns out you can reach the falling platform even while it's stopped at the bottom, but I couldn't because no reason

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 3:03 PM

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Hmm, This one looks like it might be doable with a megaflip too

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Wait, nevermind

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You can reach it with a jump

midnight depot Aug 30, 2023, 3:28 PM

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Doesn't look like the final room is reachable without hover boots https://i.imgur.com/LOt0cwg.png

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Looks like there is a skip for it but it involves going out of bounds https://youtu.be/f3uXLa21Yhw

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Skater

Shadow Temple Boat Skip

OMFG its finally a reality. This should save alot of time. we just need a setup now. BOAT SKIP HYPE :D

▶ Play video

midnight depot Aug 31, 2023, 3:33 AM

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Good evening

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It's the last day!

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We're almost done. https://i.imgur.com/61LSkoV.png

Imgur

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Though as with before we still need @sage dawn to play to progress any further

sage dawn Aug 31, 2023, 3:39 AM

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Sorry I have a deadline at work that happens to line up with tomorrow. I should maybe release

midnight depot Aug 31, 2023, 3:40 AM

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If you would like to continue another day, I could just dip into your game and get my hover boots myself then keep playing.

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Otherwise, releasing is fine. No pressure!

sage dawn Aug 31, 2023, 3:41 AM

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I don't want to hold anyone back

midnight depot Aug 31, 2023, 3:41 AM

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I'm having a blast just playing with you

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Don't worry about holding anyone back. I intend to run my part of the game until the end, but I also intend to start the next one by tomorrow so everyone has the opportunity to play this weekend

fierce vale Aug 31, 2023, 10:56 AM

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NamazuThink hmmm, do i do this option

midnight depot Aug 31, 2023, 11:00 AM

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Should be fine as long as the shopkeepers are not randomized

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Problem is you will have to find every hidden and difficult to reach consumable

fierce vale Aug 31, 2023, 11:01 AM

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PL_lunateehee i do anyway, though i'll probably just release once i kill the final boss again

midnight depot Aug 31, 2023, 11:01 AM

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Okay

fierce vale Aug 31, 2023, 11:02 AM

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📎 CinderedChipmunk.yaml

midnight depot Aug 31, 2023, 11:02 AM

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All right! Please post it again tomorrow after I announce the game

fierce vale Aug 31, 2023, 11:03 AM

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okey dokey!

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twicrazy apparently i have to make a server to generate a template pokemon emerald yaml

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CoolHat i'll figure that out later

ancient harness Aug 31, 2023, 1:21 PM

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It's done

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With my beautiful beige tunic

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This is why Link doesn't get Zelda. Terrible fashion sense

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Damn, only 90% completion

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I released so check your games if you wish

weary lagoon Aug 31, 2023, 1:50 PM

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hes done it

ancient harness Aug 31, 2023, 2:45 PM

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I could've done it as soon as I got magic, whenever that was

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I really thought I needed Ganon's key

midnight depot Aug 31, 2023, 4:33 PM

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fierce vale <a:twicrazy:535208432999858186> apparently i have to make a server to generate a...

I can do it for you since I already have the game set up

fierce vale Aug 31, 2023, 4:33 PM

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ty kindly <3

📎 pokemon_emerald.apworld

midnight depot Aug 31, 2023, 4:38 PM

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Gotta get out of bed first but I'll generate a test game for you pronto

fierce vale Aug 31, 2023, 4:41 PM

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no rush, i'm working from home tommorow so can just do the things whenever

fresh hill Aug 31, 2023, 4:43 PM

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should we do any test game stuff tomorrow when I’m WFH?

fierce vale Aug 31, 2023, 4:47 PM

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i dont think theres anything we need to

midnight depot Aug 31, 2023, 4:49 PM

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fresh hill should we do any test game stuff tomorrow when I’m WFH?

You just need to make sure each game works by testing it yourself (and you did)

midnight depot Aug 31, 2023, 6:18 PM

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Time to generate Pokemon Emerald

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Apparently I need to update my installation to 0.4.2 (in dev)

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For some stupid reason they host release candidates at https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/731214280439103580/1144786112540319774/Setup_Archipelago_0.4.2_RC4.exe

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@fierce vale You got a copy of the Emerald ROM that I can patch?

fierce vale Aug 31, 2023, 6:32 PM

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sure, gimme a sec

midnight depot Aug 31, 2023, 6:32 PM

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Also feel free to customize the YAML and send it back (or I'll use it as-is)

📎 Chiperald.yaml

fierce vale Aug 31, 2023, 6:32 PM

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gigantamaxpipp ascended name

midnight depot Aug 31, 2023, 6:32 PM

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I tried to go for what you would name it

fierce vale Aug 31, 2023, 6:33 PM

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FS_woohoo oh hey, this one default starts with hm02 fly

fresh hill Aug 31, 2023, 6:33 PM

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my name is significantly less punnable

midnight depot Aug 31, 2023, 6:33 PM

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Very handy, surely

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I found a template with info

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📎 message.txt

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Oh but apparently it's for an older version

fierce vale Aug 31, 2023, 6:41 PM

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it should be sufficient info, thanks!

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it filled the two bits of information i wanted!

midnight depot Aug 31, 2023, 6:46 PM

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Hmm

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I have no idea how to patch the emerald file. There's no setting for it like the other ones

fierce vale Aug 31, 2023, 6:48 PM

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midnight depot Aug 31, 2023, 6:48 PM

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Oh right. I've been trying "Open Patch" and just forcing it to load the file

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Which worked but provided no output (usually does in other applications)

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Okay, I made a test game you can try here, https://archipelago.gg/room/Zp7Crw-KTma9JDYAEek-Kg

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And the ROM is here.

📎 AP_25307249616495609756_P1_Chiperald.gba

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It's announcement time again!

Thank you all so much for playing with me in the August Manechat game. I'm starting another Manechat Asynchronous Archipelago Game, with the intent of running until October. If you're interested, please read the list of available games https://archipelago.gg/games and pick one or more games to run, then ping me so I can keep track of you and help you out with any problems.
The game will start By the end of Friday, tomorrow.
Also I'll ping people who might be interested here:
@ancient harness, @clear summit, @weary lagoon, @warm walrus, @sage dawn. (Ixrec and Chip already have their games ready)
Oh, and one more thing. Please don't join unless you can commit to playing at least a little bit every three days. It's very frustrating for everyone to be stuck because you didn't play and your world has the one item the whole game needs to proceed.

fresh hill Aug 31, 2023, 7:00 PM

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midnight depot ## It's announcement time again! Thank you all so much for playing with me in th...

warm walrus Aug 31, 2023, 7:00 PM

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I am interested and would like to run Dark Souls 3 or Stardew Valley

midnight depot Aug 31, 2023, 7:01 PM

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Sounds great! You should generate a singleplayer randomized game and once you get it to work, copy the YAML file, and send it to me

ancient harness Aug 31, 2023, 7:01 PM

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Not me for this one

fresh hill Aug 31, 2023, 7:01 PM

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should we say something in #1032716748887179434 too just in case we can rope in someone brand new?

midnight depot Aug 31, 2023, 7:01 PM

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Yes, I plan to announce in #1032716748887179434 a couple of times later.

fresh hill Aug 31, 2023, 7:02 PM

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cool

#Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer

It's announcement time again!