#Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer

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midnight depot
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Oh but hold on

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If I generate the game with A Hat in Time using the APworld file, I'll have to manually patch each Ocarina of Time ROM

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I don't think we can do that

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Hi. Are you still interested? We're starting a game today! See #1119170161518334004 message for details

fierce vale
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HatPensive what need to be done to the rom?

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but for reference it works

midnight depot
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I need to run the adjuster on it then hand it to each player, I think?

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Maybe not!

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We could try to run the game as it is

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Tell you what

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I'm going to set up my Ocarina of Time run and then host a game with just Ocarina of Time and two A Hat in Time saves for another round of testing

fierce vale
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๐Ÿค˜

midnight depot
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Okay uh

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I'm going to take this file and use the archipelago website to host it

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It has Ocarina of Time and two Hat in Time games

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You can test running two saves

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Try sending an item from one save to the other and vice versa

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Meanwhile I'll try running Ocarina of Time

midnight depot
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Here's the room

fierce vale
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bow i sent something to you and chip2 from chip1 and i sent something to chip1 from chip2

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i recieved everything on my end

sage dawn
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I wasn't awake when you sent the here ping so I wasn't pinged.

midnight depot
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Oh good

weary lagoon
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When are we starting

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oh we need yays yaml I guess!

midnight depot
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As soon as I figure out how to fix my Ocarina of Time connector lua

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And as soon as Yay is available

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I did promise an extension to Ixrec just in case

sage dawn
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Oh I thought you already started without me.

midnight depot
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Nope

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Check the pins for the current game to see the status

sage dawn
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How long of a rando are we running?

midnight depot
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Check the invite message for details

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Until the end of August

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Expected time 15 hours

sage dawn
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Okay so I'll run one instance of oot

midnight depot
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Sounds good!

sage dawn
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Will get you the yaml within like an hour

midnight depot
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I'm going to bed early today and I'll start the game as soon as possible

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Oh there's been an update to Bizhawk that broke all Archipelago connections. You'll need to update your connector lua

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(and Bizhawk or update neither.)

sage dawn
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Just gonna update neither probably

ancient harness
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Hoping for the same

midnight depot
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On non-Bizhawk emulators it should work fine

sage dawn
midnight depot
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I'll have the game up first thing tomorrow once I'm awake enough to verify I have all the correct YAML files

midnight depot
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Hi

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I still can't figure out how to get my Ocarina of Time game to connect properly.

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Can someone who has done it give me their connector_oot.lua file and/or tell me their Bizhawk version?

fierce vale
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peek_Claire i'll have to dick around w/ that for my pokemon

midnight depot
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Oh I should have added Pokemon so you can test it for crossworld

fierce vale
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it should be fine, it looks like one of the most popular ones

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and its had a bunch over the years

weary lagoon
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I have bizhawk 2.7

midnight depot
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Okay so you're using the old connector and old Bizhawk

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I'm going to try those

midnight depot
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I'm getting progress! I'm unable to properly connect still.

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Maybe I need to patch the ROM again?

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I did it!

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Now I can't configure my controller though

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I finally got everything working

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Thanks for the help

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Now I'm going to make and host the game

weary lagoon
midnight depot
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@fierce vale I need Pokemon Red (UE) [S][!].gb

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Thanks

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Might take a bit

weary lagoon
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I could play a bit before jogging if it takes around 10 min

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or are you talking hours

midnight depot
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I've never generated a game this big on my PC before!

weary lagoon
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how long have the other games taken?

midnight depot
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Like five minutes

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But I generated those on the Archipelago server

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I'm generating this one on my PC

weary lagoon
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I see I see

ancient harness
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Thank you, Chip

midnight depot
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Looks like it's taking 100% of one core

weary lagoon
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Thank you, Chip

midnight depot
weary lagoon
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I hope I get the boomerang early or im gonna be pissed off

midnight depot
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There are 3375 items and eight players. I'm generating a spoiler log with traversal just in case. Hints are at 12%. Release and Remaining are enabled, but for Collect you need to finish the game.

ancient harness
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I'm gonna have your boomergan in my Deku Tree dw

weary lagoon
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I have random dungeon entrances so my deku tree isnt the deku tree

midnight depot
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Your deku tree is Wcctnoam's deku tree

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So when you get in you have to wait for him to get out

weary lagoon
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this is getting good

fresh hill
midnight depot
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Yeah!

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Not sure why they're only doing it serially instead of in parallel

fresh hill
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probably just no one's done that optimization work

midnight depot
fresh hill
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heck I have no idea how to parallelize TSPs (I think this is a TSP?)

midnight depot
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I almost said it's a traveling salesman problem but realized I have no clue if it actually is

fresh hill
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right, there's no path weighting in this context so I'm not sure if that makes it "not a TSP"

ancient harness
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Yeah, he has to visit every city once and it has to be a loop

midnight depot
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There is optional path weighting

ancient harness
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Well, "loop"

weary lagoon
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He should come to Oslo we could hang out

midnight depot
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We never used it because I don't know how to make it fun

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Oop, it's done!

weary lagoon
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Remember to save your game often Wcctnoam ๐Ÿ™‚

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it takes one second

midnight depot
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Now I gotta host

fierce vale
weary lagoon
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lets see if I remember how to work this

midnight depot
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The pin is updated with the tracker and game links

ancient harness
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I can start playing in 20ish minutes

midnight depot
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#1119170161518334004 message

fierce vale
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same probably

midnight depot
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Take your time!

ancient harness
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Though I guess I'll open the tracker

midnight depot
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Just play whenever you're comfortable

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It is an asynchronous game

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As long as we try to finish by the end of the month

fierce vale
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PL_lunateehee also remember to ping me if someone wants something grabbed, since ya' know, 3 games runnin

midnight depot
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Yeah

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Here's a refresher: start by grabbing the Download Link from the game page, then double click that

weary lagoon
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Sick color

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its so pixelated...

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my project 64 games dont look like this

clear summit
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I actually forgot to setup

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I'm installing stuff

midnight depot
weary lagoon
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which setting

midnight depot
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Uh

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You can set them to this sort of settings. If the game runs too slow, disable Hq2x and set it to none.

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This setup will make it so the game is scaled in integer values up to twice as big.

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It'll reduce pixellation with a bilinear filter after

weary lagoon
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I got it to look ok

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Just found 25 Pons

midnight depot
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You can also go to plugin settings and change the game's resolution

clear summit
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Dream nail!

ancient harness
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huge

weary lagoon
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the only thing in my kokiri shop is Health Pon idk what it does

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They say that the Spirit Temple is on the path of gold

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Is that way of the hero ppenk

midnight depot
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Health pon heals Hatgirl a bit

weary lagoon
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i should make a notepad for dungeon entrances and gossip stones

midnight depot
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You could make it a post here, and then I'd link that post in the current game pin

clear summit
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ohno

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I thought they were excluded

ancient harness
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Time to get an Elytra and rockets

clear summit
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Something feels wrong

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include_hard_advancements: 'false'
include_unreasonable_advancements: 'false'
include_postgame_advancements: 'false'

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somehow it includes a lot of advancements that should have been excluded

ancient harness
weary lagoon
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good look

ancient harness
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HUGE 4 emeralds

clear summit
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This is really worrying, but I guess I can try my best to just go for ender dragon and release

weary lagoon
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Malon what are you doing with that

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you can do it Jay!

ancient harness
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YOOO Flitter got me the Fire Temple key ring

weary lagoon
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I wish I could start with suns song like in my own randos

ancient harness
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I'm glad I didn't rando the kokiri sword

weary lagoon
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ye farming rupees for sticks is just annoying

ancient harness
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Flitter already with 2 extra charm notches, insane

midnight depot
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Thanks

ancient harness
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Kokiri shop has my Biggoron Sword rdwut

weary lagoon
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I shuffled in Malons chicken so I cant go to Zelda before someone finds me that

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WALLET

midnight depot
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TIL you can kill balders with your weaversong

ancient harness
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Nice enchantment book

clear summit
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Holy crap I found fortress

ancient harness
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How does it work for you when you get an item, it shows up in your inventory?

clear summit
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yes

ancient harness
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First Ice Trap babyyyy

weary lagoon
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I did turn on a lot of them

fierce vale
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if anyone wants their ap item (progression) i need like 1k pons

midnight depot
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Wait I'm anyone

clear summit
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That badge seller is my tools

fierce vale
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idk if theres just 1 badge seller shop, but currently i have 2 progression items (136+203) pon and 2 useful (some more pon)

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and a bunch of no lable

clear summit
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Badge Seller-Item 1 is mine, at least it says

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pog

fierce vale
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to clarify is that chip1 or chip2

weary lagoon
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whats progressive weapons

clear summit
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chip1

weary lagoon
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in minecraft

clear summit
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I can make higher tier sword

fierce vale
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awwyeah first item got(somet for wcct)

clear summit
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dinner time for me

fierce vale
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tools sent

weary lagoon
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gonna see if I can rush BK mode before we find an item for me

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includes fishing though..

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Rutos letter for wcct actually giga

ancient harness
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Holy hell

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Ok time to leave Deku Tree and Kokiri's Forest

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I spent the last 10 minutes trying to get the gold skulltula down the middle-hole with a jump-slash from above

weary lagoon
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Chip ruined my BK mode

ancient harness
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Giga

weary lagoon
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heads up to any newer OoT gamers that you can do deku scrub shops with deku nuts if you dont have deku shield

midnight depot
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Gruz mother skip

weary lagoon
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@ancient harness your forest temple locks my Zelda access get going

ancient harness
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I need hookshot thend

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And possibly the keyring

weary lagoon
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and bow

ancient harness
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Depends where on the temple but yeah

midnight depot
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Well I have 400 rupees for Wcctnoam instead

weary lagoon
midnight depot
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Will be a while until I can reach the egg shop

weary lagoon
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will be a while until I need the hammer

ancient harness
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Damn, a scrub vendor sold me my own ice trap for 40 rupees

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Possible the worst deal of all time, ever

weary lagoon
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would love if anyone could find me 60 rupees right now

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holy hell

midnight depot
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Ooh, focus from chip

fierce vale
ancient harness
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giga

midnight depot
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Back to easy mode I guess

fierce vale
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HatPensive wait, i might actually have to do venessas mansion rather than skip all of it 0/10

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NamazuThink hmm, i think my first save might already be close to be bk mode till i get hookshot/more yarn

weary lagoon
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holy hell

ancient harness
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Are time piecesi mportant Chip?

fierce vale
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time pieces+pon are the most important things

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except hookshot

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i need like 34 time pieces to win chip1, and i dont know for chip2 since its randomised

weary lagoon
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1 more check before BK mode magipog

ancient harness
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Are yarns important?

midnight depot
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Yarns make hats

ancient harness
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My Hiryule shops: Artiks requiem 265 rupees, Flitter's Bolero at 195 rupees, Time Piece 155 rupees, Full heart container Flitter 165 rupees, on Grub Flitter 205 rupees.

Goron shop: 25 pons 180 rupees, health pon 145 rupees, Flitter's Nayru's Love, 45 rupees

Zora's shop: Flitter's iron boots, 100 rupees

Kakariko shops: 2 timepieces for Chip for 200+

midnight depot
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You need at least five different hats

ancient harness
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What I can buy with small wallet I will buy after periodically selling bugs

weary lagoon
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my requiem?

weary lagoon
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I put songs on song locations

ancient harness
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Unless it's wrong but

weary lagoon
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(ice trap)

ancient harness
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Ah could be

weary lagoon
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well it is for sure

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BK mode!!

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(I can do more grottos with my bombchus but thats out of logic)

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ill play more in the evening

midnight depot
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Have fun with your exercise

clear summit
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Flitter, is your HK even randomized rdsnrk

ancient harness
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PRAISE HELIX

midnight depot
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Yes it is

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I'm in BK mode

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I just don't have any geo rocks randomized

clear summit
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Oh that makes sense

fresh hill
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fun fact: a while back we got concerned about scams that involved editing an old Discord message to something bad after no one was looking at it, so we taught Izzy to alert us on old edits by non-mods, and so far the majority of them are coming from this thread rdsnrk

midnight depot
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That's me

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I love editing old messages

fresh hill
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so do we

midnight depot
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But I usually only edit the pin

ancient harness
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Damn, Dembe gave me 1 rupee for the digging minigame

clear summit
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Wow I found 2 overworld fortresses

midnight depot
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It's an archipelago compatible automatic tracker that includes maps and logic checks

ancient harness
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Goron shop: 25 pons 180 rupees, health pon 145 rupees, Flitter's Nayru's Love, 45 rupees.
Added to my pin

ancient harness
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Zora's shop: Flitter's iron boots, 100 rupees

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Damn, that's two Gerudo membership cards I've gotten, Yay's and Artiks'

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Alright I'll be back after some shopping

sage dawn
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I just woke up and have to do my job. Will get on when things slow down

midnight depot
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Take it easy

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It's an async game and it should be fine however you want to play (but I think it will run best at five hours a week)

sage dawn
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I want to play some before I have every item lol

midnight depot
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That's fair

sage dawn
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Also I don't think generating a seed can be done in parallel unless you're playing no logic.

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I'm pretty sure it places one required item at a time based on what checks are available with what it places previously.

weary lagoon
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@fierce vale

ancient harness
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Right here right now!

fierce vale
weary lagoon
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I think right now I need someone to find Zeldas letter or the ocarina for me

ancient harness
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I gotchu fam

fierce vale
ancient harness
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Great, I need silver scale to get silver scale

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I wonder where the other one is

midnight depot
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Alternatively, you can plan each ring of the logic independently.

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It would even be fine to do work ahead of time with one core and once it's time you can verify if that works with the logic as planned.

ancient harness
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Someone better find my silver scale

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I forgot I have Ganons' bridge already on

weary lagoon
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theres a secret room in ganons castle with like 5 shrub shops

ancient harness
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Yeah I know I already emptied them

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Dembe race time

weary lagoon
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Dampe..

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just got like 20 things and no ice trap smh

ancient harness
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Kakario shops: 2 timepieces for Chip for 200+

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I think that's all my shops?

weary lagoon
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been to zora and goron?

ancient harness
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Yeah

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Hyrule, Kokiri, Kakariko.

weary lagoon
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bomb shop at night?

ancient harness
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Yeah

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Anyway what's unbought in my shops is in the pin for anyone curious

weary lagoon
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i can do 3 more things in bottom of the well with bombs!

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oh might just be 2

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its 3!

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looks like I have 12% so its time to hint the best item in the game

midnight depot
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It's funny how with 10% you get ten hints, with 11% you get nine and with 12% you get eight hints, and with 13% you get seven but 14% doesn't give you another cut

weary lagoon
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thats gonna be a while

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chikaoooh oh I can go to death mountain without Zeldas letter through Kokiri forest

clear summit
ancient harness
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Bows will be your friends

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And axes

weary lagoon
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is 9 bombs enough for the maze in goron city 02think

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GC shop has rift token for chip2 for 185 rupees

ancient harness
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That Seismic Toss was worth 10 minutes in the archery minigame, you better use it

weary lagoon
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the maze was only 4 bombs

ancient harness
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Always has been

weary lagoon
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time to find out where dodongos cavern takes me

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Fire temple ๐Ÿ‘ด

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was kinda hoping for deku tree or something I could do

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I used to think you need the boomerang for this guy but you can just climb up

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really weird

ancient harness
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Dodongo time

clear summit
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If I can craft it rdsnrk

ancient harness
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HUGE HM

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Wow, my hammer

weary lagoon
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๐Ÿ˜ฆ let me in

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alright i think ive done all I can

ancient harness
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Ah fuck

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I have hammer and all fire temple keys but I don't have goron tunic

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YO TRIFORCE PIECE

ancient harness
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First try Milo skip stpc_pppog

sage dawn
ancient harness
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Oh right

sage dawn
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Lol pot in Link's house was someone's adult wallet

ancient harness
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You rand'd pots?

sage dawn
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Yeah figured since this is a longer one I should get stupid

ancient harness
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Yeah I didn't even know that was an option

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You can't give the skull mask without ocarina and Saria song right?

sage dawn
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Yeah. If you have a bottle you can do OI but you definitely need Saria's song

ancient harness
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Okay I think the last thing I can do is the boomerangless part of Jabu Jabu and then it's BK mode for me

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Nvm I can't even get in without slingshot

weary lagoon
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you can hit the switch with a bomb

ancient harness
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I'll wait, I don't think that's what the logic wants from me. I don't want to start skipping

weary lagoon
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??

ancient harness
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Eh that ones doesn't count, the true gatekeeper is hookshot

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I only get whatever Saria gives you

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I don't know why he's there

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Like, don't you alreayd have the ocarina and saria's song when you get there as an adult?

weary lagoon
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of course you do

ancient harness
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Right so what's his purpose there?

weary lagoon
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But they designed the game to be randomized 25 years later

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thats why you have to play zeldas lullaby everywhere

ancient harness
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true true

midnight depot
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Left crystal heart and right mantis claw. Thanks!

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Oh, and howling wraiths. Now I can do that one mound where you're forced to attack any direction but down to proceed

sage dawn
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Hitting the switch with the bomb is in logic

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Unless there are glitches or clips involved it's in logic

weary lagoon
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the ootmm logic is so much more noob friendly

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dont even have to climb the lens of truth wall blind

sage dawn
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I mean lens of truth shit without lens of truth isn't in logic in OoT either

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The only stuff in logic is the bottom of the well walls you're supposed to walk through before you get it

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@midnight depot might be important

weary lagoon
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Yay I hinted my boomerang in your Gerudo Fortress if you're ever in the area ๐Ÿ‘ผ

sage dawn
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I need either adult or to learn a new trick for that

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Still running closed door of time

weary lagoon
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same same

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I wish it let you shuffle the master sword too

sage dawn
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Same

weary lagoon
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you can in OOTMM its gr8

midnight depot
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Oh Brumm's really far away

sage dawn
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No rush

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It might be important

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I can skip certain keys

weary lagoon
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oh I have 500 rupee wallet now

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I think the only expensive item ive seen is my own zora tunic for 300

midnight depot
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It's literally at the edge of the map

ancient harness
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Is the chicken-waterfall skip considered in logic?

midnight depot
sage dawn
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No that's not in logic

ancient harness
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Nice, a song

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If only I knew how to play...

weary lagoon
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I set my ocarina to sound like Malon im excited for that

midnight depot
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Left Crystal Heart gives me Wcctnoam's bomb bag

weary lagoon
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he has that so its just a bigger one

ancient harness
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Okay I def think I'm BK mode now

weary lagoon
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good work today!

sage dawn
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Best hint ever

midnight depot
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I have my hints set at very strong

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Gonna be a breeze

sage dawn
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For context this was right outside a skull token in Goron City

ancient harness
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[Hint]: Wcctnoam's Ocarina is at Jabu Jabus Belly Barinade Heart in FlitterOoT's World. (not found)
[Hint]: Wcctnoam's Progressive Hookshot is at LW Ocarina Memory Game in yay899's World. (not found)

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Neither sound in the near future for me

sage dawn
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No hookshot I can do right now

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Just let me wrap up in death mountain crater.

ancient harness
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You have an ocarina?

sage dawn
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Yeah

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Oh thank god

weary lagoon
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He needs pons bro...

sage dawn
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Since when?

weary lagoon
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He LOVES pons

sage dawn
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Lol

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Two back to back ice traps for artiks

weary lagoon
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I set them to mayhem

sage dawn
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Oh that explains a lot

midnight depot
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He did say that the two things he needs are pons and time pieces

ancient harness
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Pons really doesn't sound like the name of a game-critical

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Is it the currency?

sage dawn
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Yes

ancient harness
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I got a good amount of time pieces and yarn, but since he's running two Hats in TIme there's probably hundreds left

sage dawn
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@midnight depot How important is love key?

ancient harness
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5 checks maybe

sage dawn
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Alright

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So here's my day shops in market:
Boss key - Artiks 120 Rupees,
Rift token - Chip 110 Rupees,
Heart key - Flitter 90 Rupees,
Ruto's Letter - 95 Rupees

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Don't have the wallets for the first two

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Too poor for the second and don't have the time of day to grind rupees

ancient harness
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MY shops are pinned too, I put all of them there

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No bottles to sell bugs?

sage dawn
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Nope

ancient harness
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Me with two bottles too many...

sage dawn
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Lol chest game was all top chests

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Jay doesn't need EXP right?

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My night shop is just exp and a shadow key for me

fierce vale
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peek_Babkoro rift tokens are just aesthetic, i dont need em

sage dawn
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Oh they don't open the rifts with your settings?

fierce vale
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๐Ÿค˜ if they do i dunno

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normally they dont though

sage dawn
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For some reason I thought they did

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It's been a while since I played hat in time

midnight depot
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Rift tokens allow you to buy cosmetics

sage dawn
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Oh right

midnight depot
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You get them from rifts though!

sage dawn
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Somehow my equip swap persisted through going to adult

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My light bridge is 15 heart containers ;-;

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I decided to randomize the condition for it lol

ancient harness
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Interesting

sage dawn
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Okay, not in BK mode but taking a break to do my adult human job'

weary lagoon
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thanks for the ocarina that was very nice of you

sage dawn
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Oh yeah, Wcct, I can teach you ocarina items if you want to use a bottle as an ocarina

weary lagoon
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I was so close to dying when I opened the game

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went from 5 hearts to 1/2

sage dawn
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Oh god lol

weary lagoon
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why isnt Malon at the ranch does she wait for Talon to come back

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shes there when I played the other rando ppenk

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guess im still in BK mode then

sage dawn
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You have to get the item from her, and meet Zelda for her to go back to the ranch

weary lagoon
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i got her item

sage dawn
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Have you met Zelda yet?

weary lagoon
#

No

sage dawn
#

You also need to meet Zelda to get the Saria's Song check from outside forest temple

weary lagoon
#

yes

#

I have 3 songs locked behind Wcct doing forest

sage dawn
#

Oh is that where your weird egg is?

weary lagoon
#

ye

sage dawn
#

He has hookshot now so he can check lobby at least.

weary lagoon
#

he has the bow too

#

not the keyring though

midnight depot
#

I'm going to start Ocarina of time after dinner!

sage dawn
#

Does he have goron braclet?

weary lagoon
#

nope

sage dawn
#

Is he doing keysanity or nah?

weary lagoon
#

Keysanity with keyring

#

same as me

sage dawn
#

Oh damn yeah

#

He can check two skulls and two chests unless he learns a clip, and then he can check one more skull and two more chests.

#

The clip isn't hard but I understand not wanting to learn a new trick

#

The hardest part of the easy method is walking through an unloaded room's collision. The hardest part of the slightly harder method is a frame perfect z target on a trick that only loses like a second when you fail it.

ancient harness
#

Forest time

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I know I'm like a few hours in already but I really like my lime-green hearts

#

They look healthy

midnight depot
#

For the first time in randomizer history I was able to use the city crest before actually entering the city

fresh hill
#

ah, just like I had to

midnight depot
#

Basically the intended way

fresh hill
#

it's so weird that the door can't be used again if you come back to it later

midnight depot
#

I agree and the only possible explanation is maybe it's a thematic choice?

ancient harness
#

Giga egg, and Flitter's double defense

weary lagoon
#

๐Ÿ˜น

#

@sage dawn sry..

ancient harness
#

Holy hell

fresh hill
#

I had to learn it in the randomizer

midnight depot
#

It was a problem for me but I did go everywhere

ancient harness
#

What do you do in Ganon's 6 rooms when you get to the end?

#

DO you play Lullaby or something?

weary lagoon
#

shoot the orb with the light arrow

#

the orb isnt there so you might have all trials cleared

#

or a few select? I turned all of them on

ancient harness
#

Ah okay. I knew I was missing something but not what

#

Oh. I don't know, maybe it's off

#

But the rooms have stuff

midnight depot
#

Ass randomizer

#

Gave me the 200 rupees before the wallet expansion

weary lagoon
#

if you have open ganons tower AND no trials then your go mode is just light arrows rdwut

ancient harness
#

Ye

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But I like checks not beating the game

weary lagoon
#

I got the song of time!

#

Epona LOVES it

#

Did I bring the wrong mask to the theater....

#

I thought it was the spooky one..

midnight depot
#

This game is so old they haven't yet invented camera controls

fresh hill
#

oh god I completely forgot about that

midnight depot
#

I guess I can press Z to point at targets? That's sort of a camera control

weary lagoon
#

you can press Z to face forward any time

fresh hill
#

yep, lots of turning around and tapping Z

midnight depot
#

Whoa, there's an in-game tracker in the pause menu

weary lagoon
#

lets see where ganons castle takes me

#

Water temple

#

this isnt a place I want to be without the hookshot

fresh hill
#

I've never heard an inventory screen referred to as an "in-game tracker" before, but I guess that's exactly what it is cocothink

weary lagoon
#

holy hell

midnight depot
#

Not the inventory screen

fresh hill
#

oh?

ancient harness
midnight depot
fresh hill
#

oooooh

fresh hill
#

...right, that stands for bottom of the well

midnight depot
#

I assume they're part of the randomizer

weary lagoon
#

holy hell

fresh hill
#

yeah I didn't expect it to just include that

#

lol

ancient harness
#

Gerudo bridge needs longshot right?

weary lagoon
#

ye

ancient harness
#

Hmm

fresh hill
#

is that the heart piece location you need the song of time to reach?

ancient harness
#

I feel like I have hookshot skulltullas left but I can't think of them

weary lagoon
#

its that one but theres lots of ways to get it

#

look in the tracker!

fresh hill
#

ah and you have glitch/trick logic enabled?

ancient harness
#

Tracker doesn't tell me which ones are hookshot

#

I ain't looking at a list of 100 skulltulas

#

I've gotten a handfull I'll pretend it's all of them for now

weary lagoon
#

No hookshot its over

#

Kakariko shops time magipog

#

all trash

#

unless someone needs skulltulas

ancient harness
#

Not urgently but a check is a check

weary lagoon
#

everyone in the house tells you what they give

ancient harness
#

I bought everything I could buy in my shops at my leisure, but it's easy with a bottle

#

OH

#

Let me check

#

40 piece of heart for you, 20 pons for Chip

#

I have 14 so I guess after 6 I stop caring

#

If I had Bolero I could do all of Fire Temple

weary lagoon
#

Cant you just go there

ancient harness
#

Oh, with hookshot I can I think

midnight depot
#

Did I not randomize shops?

ancient harness
#

That setting is on by default

#

Maybe you got garbo rands?

weary lagoon
#

looks very vanilla

ancient harness
#

Ye

midnight depot
#

Either I didn't randomize it or I perfectly randomized it

fresh hill
#

or it's troll randomized and one of those deku nut models is a triforce shard

ancient harness
#

HOLY LONGSHOT

#

Chip you goat of a man

midnight depot
#

Are bombchus replenishable or should I be careful with their use?

weary lagoon
#

you need 2 bombchus in the game

#

you can buy more in the bomb shop I dont think that slot is randoed

ancient harness
#

Otherwise they count as bombs, but out of logic

midnight depot
#

Yeah I want them as bombs

ancient harness
#

You can't buy more if you don't own a bombag

midnight depot
#

Ah shit, so I'd better learn how to use them fast

weary lagoon
#

the strat is to just hold them until they explode in your face if you want to use them as normal bombs

ancient harness
#

It feels so nice to go into a dungeon with all the keys

weary lagoon
#

geo rock for 200 rupees not bad

midnight depot
#

You're not supposed to even see geo rocks and I don't know why some are still randomized

weary lagoon
#

red kokiri tunic and purple goron tunic im feasting

ancient harness
#

I need goron tunic....

midnight depot
ancient harness
#

I did one check in fire temple before I quit due to the heat

weary lagoon
#

thats a fun one it requires water fire and forest medallions

#

flitter has double magic..

#

Prelude of light magipog magipog

midnight depot
#

I did get double magic but I keep accidentally using it because I try to move the camera around

weary lagoon
#

my fire temple is forest temple

#

lets see how much I can do here with no hookshot no bow

midnight depot
#

What a bad combination

weary lagoon
#

got 2 bombs to try to kill a skulltula on the wall

#

no..

midnight depot
fresh hill
#

what does that mean

weary lagoon
#

i think it means theres a triforce piece in the temple of time

midnight depot
#

Yeah, I assume it's either very good or very essential

weary lagoon
#

or an item important to getting the triforce

midnight depot
#

Is the gimmick in Lost Woods the usual one where it teleports you around or am I getting lost because I don't know the game?

weary lagoon
#

you're supposed to follow the music

#

but theres some other paths too

#

the pure black holes go to new screens while the ones with a white light in the centre teleport you back to the start

midnight depot
#

Oh that's why

weary lagoon
#

was that your first bomb bag?

midnight depot
#

Yes!

weary lagoon
#

nice it was worth coming here then

midnight depot
#

Is there a way to unassign items from the yellow buttons?

weary lagoon
#

no

#

only overwrite

midnight depot
#

That's so evil

weary lagoon
#

can we get some pogs in the chat for bombchu bowling?

ancient harness
#

Bro why does one hit from the gerudo guards sometimes send you back to prison and sometimes it doesn't

weary lagoon
#

its her big spinny charge attack

#

just played a perfect game 3 shots

ancient harness
#

I forgot about that game

weary lagoon
#

it has two exciting prizes (ice trap and deku seeds)

midnight depot
#

Defense for yay

ancient harness
#

So many things I cant get with iron boots

#

If I ever get out of Gerudo

fierce vale
#

CoolHat pokemon red bk'd until i get some hms/silph scopes or cheese em with the silph scope which i might do later or various key items

weary lagoon
#

i remember a shop with zora tunic but now I cant find it ppenk

ancient harness
#

Night?

weary lagoon
#

only one I havent re-checked is goron

#

so far..

ancient harness
#

In my heard Goron and Zora always sell their tunics, but I know that's wrong

weary lagoon
#

I came all this way..

midnight depot
#

Thanks for the grub

weary lagoon
#

im chasing 24% for the hookshot hint

#

time for no hookshot water temple (very cursed)

#

oh ye you need lullaby here too ICANT

midnight depot
#

This is fucked up

ancient harness
#

Wcctnoam sent Archery to Jay (Gerudo Training Ground Lobby Left Chest)

weary lagoon
#

you need boomerang for a lot of skulltulas

#

im about to win the chest game without lens of truth

midnight depot
#

Can you win it with savestates instead?

weary lagoon
#

I lost

#

thats cheating

#

ill stop there im pretty bk I think

ancient harness
#

I've done the non-key, not-song-of-time part of GTG

#

YO PRELUDE OF LIGHT

weary lagoon
#

BIG

ancient harness
#

Let's see what I can do in water temple with no zora tunic and no keys

weary lagoon
#

do you have lullaby

ancient harness
#

No and not even an ocarina

weary lagoon
#

longshot should get you some stuff

#

I could only get 1 chest

midnight depot
#

I am also taking a break

fierce vale
#

CoolHat ill hop on my hatty time saves once ive showered

ancient harness
#

Alright, BK mode for me

midnight depot
#

You played a lot!

#

We're supposed to finish in three weeks, not three days

ancient harness
#

It didn't feel like I did much

#

I probably won't play tomorrow anyway

fresh hill
#

how long was the last one again?

midnight depot
#

Beats me

#

It didn't feel like you did much

#

But I looked at the tracker

#

You got a third of all your items

fresh hill
#

I finished on the 28th

#

and we started on the 25th

midnight depot
#

Sounds about right

fresh hill
#

so literally 3 days last time, at least to where I was done (as one of the people who was able to play a significant amount each day)

fierce vale
#

rdsnrk yeah, we finished in 4 days last time

sage dawn
fierce vale
#

chip1 needs: yarn/time pieces/umbrella/hookshot to proceed

midnight depot
#

Well if I find a hookshot I'm going to keep it

fresh hill
#

hm, are there multiworlds where you actually get that choice?

midnight depot
#

Probably not

#

It could easily make a seed impossible to complete

fresh hill
#

maybe if you could freely swap the items back and forth... but then it's probably no different to finding both copies at once with extra menuing steps

#

ah well

fierce vale
#

ppenk i need 2k pon ish for progression items from chip2

midnight depot
#

Can you grind for pons?

#

How are they randomized?

fierce vale
#

i can grind, its just a lot to grind when theres 50-100 pon rewards in the randomiser pool

#

i'll grind em later if needed

midnight depot
#

No need, I just wanted to know how the randomizer works

fierce vale
#

ppenk chip2 really needs the umbrella

clear summit
#

Oh I can make some progress, I should see what I can do

#

That is a lot of porkchops

fierce vale
#

FujiTeehee could you hint my umbrella for chip2 flitter, apparently hints aren't implemented client side yet

midnight depot
#

They aren't?

fierce vale
#

i can do them but they dont display apparently

midnight depot
#

Oh just use the text client

#

Here I'll do it

fierce vale
#

PL_lunateehee ah, ty

fierce vale
#

(surf from LW skull kid flitteroot)
(pokeflute from ganons castle spirit trial crystal switch chest yay899)
(card key from geo_chest-resting_grounds flitterhk)

midnight depot
#

I saw skull kid but I have no idea what he is or what to do with him

#

Not sure if I should look it up or if it'll be more fun otherwise

weary lagoon
#

you cant do it yet I can tell you that much

fierce vale
#

๐Ÿค˜ its not a big block but its blocking some places

midnight depot
#

Right. Time to play some Hollow Knight

#

Ocarina of Time later tonight

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FlitterHK sent Megaton Hammer to Artiks (Egg_Shop_2)
FlitterHK sent Progressive Wallet to Wcctnoam (Egg_Shop_6)
FlitterHK sent Piece of Heart to Wcctnoam (Egg_Shop_7)
FlitterHK sent Time Piece (The Birdhouse) to Chip1 (Egg_Shop_3)
FlitterHK sent Gold Skulltula Token to yay899 (Egg_Shop_8)
FlitterHK sent 25 Pons to Chip2 (Egg_Shop_4)
FlitterHK sent Gold Skulltula Token to Wcctnoam (Egg_Shop_5)```
weary lagoon
#

Thanks for the hammer

midnight depot
#

Yarn for Chip2

fierce vale
weary lagoon
#

What is this? Kirbys epic yarn? ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿคฃ ICANT

fierce vale
#

CoolHat all 3 of my saves are in BK mode

weary lagoon
#

When you're in 3 burger king modes

clear summit
#

wow ex-mod aboose

weary lagoon
#

this isnt manechat this is the archipelago thread

#

it doesnt really count..

#

this place even has yay899

fierce vale
#

basically just Yes, What is it? tbf

sage dawn
weary lagoon
#

doesnt it say the entrance is ice cavern

#

in his picture

sage dawn
#

Oh shit I didn't read the pictures.

weary lagoon
#

yeah I was thinking you probably had randoed entrances like me

sage dawn
#

Yee rando dungeon entrances is fun

fierce vale
#

PL_lunateehee ah, mb

weary lagoon
#

i dont know where my ganons castle is yet

#

rainbow bridge took me to water

#

my notes so far

sage dawn
#

To get to ice cavern entrance I need either hovers, Zelda's lullaby, to learn a new mega side hop, to learn a new megaflip clip setup, or to kearn how to hover up there as child.

#

Oh I can check all of Hyrule field probably

weary lagoon
#

no rush

#

I dont have spirit access

sage dawn
#

Alright

weary lagoon
#

no idea where it is either

sage dawn
#

I'm not going to be able to play a whole lot until tomorrow night. Visiting parents soon

weary lagoon
#

its CRAZY that you need (in logic) lullaby to get something chip needs quite early(?) when its locked behind my frogs

#

Unless hover boots zoras domain is in logic

sage dawn
#

Not in logic no

#

Can chip dive attack without umbrella?

fierce vale
#

i can, but i need umbrella for activating levers/bells

sage dawn
#

Ooh yeah you need that pretty badly then

fierce vale
#

did you find chip1 umbrella then or?

weary lagoon
#

I still need 5 songs for frogs

fierce vale
sage dawn
#

I need items or to learn new tricks to get it.

#

Forgot it was your poke flute not your umbrella.

fierce vale
#

ye

sage dawn
#

And it's not weird to have progression items locked so late. Just unlucky. That's why worst case multiworld estimates are every game back to back

fierce vale
#

yup, a fair chunk of chip2 is locked behind a large part of chip1 which is locked behind yarn/timepieces/umbrella/hookshot

midnight depot
#

Time to play Ocarina of Time

#

Turns out all you need is to have the game running

#

For some reason I can't lock on to queen gohma

#

This is worse than the Lost Sinner

fierce vale
#

bestie

#

just light the 2 fires for lost sinner, you should have the butterflies by then ๐Ÿ™

#

|| PL_lunateehee ||

midnight depot
#

I don't have fires for queen gohma though

fierce vale
#

not with that attitude fair enough

midnight depot
#

At least the death animation is really cool

#

Piece of heart for Artiks

#

And the spirit medallion???

sage dawn
#

Dungeon rewards are randomized.

midnight depot
#

I just thought you needed to get all the triforce pieces or something for this one

#

All right! Next up is Lost Woods (maybe?)

weary lagoon
#

Unless..?

#

dungeon rewards can unlock some checks even if the triforce is your win condition

midnight depot
#

Yeah that makes sense

weary lagoon
#

for example the spirit and shadow medallion together gets you the light arrow check

midnight depot
#

Okay. I'm going to have to take another break before I continue

weary lagoon
#

me just trying to start the game ThumbsUp

#

@midnight depot

fierce vale
#

rdsnrk yeah, i didn't enable traps on any of my saves since they very much feel synch game mechanic

weary lagoon
#

I was able to get 7 checks today thanks to the megaton hammer and claim check!

midnight depot
#

I'll get it!

weary lagoon
#

you will need the ocarina and zeldas lullaby

midnight depot
#

Yes I'm not getting it right away

midnight depot
#

Shooting gallery is pretty tricky. Any tips?

weary lagoon
#

in the slingshot its always the same order

#

so you can just practice and they'll always show up at the same spots

midnight depot
#

So I have to just memorize it

#

I'm a tad short on practice money. What's the best way to grind that? Pot room?

#

I thought I set hints to very strong

#

And that's enough for today

#

Wow, I'm still only at 5% of checks

#

Guess I'll have to play it a lot more tomorrow

fierce vale
fierce vale
#

chip1 re-BK'd

midnight depot
#

Nice work

midnight depot
#

Day 2 of trying for the slingshot minigame

#

God, the controls are shit from ass

ancient harness
#

You a keyboard warrior like me?

midnight depot
#

No!

#

I'm struggling even with the analog sticks

#

The slingshot is just finicky

fierce vale
#

UraWheeze i was so happy i got the alpine skyline freeroam map, but forgot that you need to hit something to start it, ergo i cant do anything here till i get alch hat or umbrella

midnight depot
fierce vale
#

CatJam and that back to the triple bk

ancient harness
#

That's a lot of borger

weary lagoon
#

Ye the controls on all the shooting items suck dick

#

the biggest improvement in oot 3ds easily

#

Look forward to horseback archery ICANT

#

@ancient harnessWe need a luffy g5 icant

midnight depot
#

Time to take a break from Ocarina of Time. Highlights:

  • Got Zelda's Letter
  • Figured out how to backstep (50% faster movement!)
  • Did the fishing minigame.
weary lagoon
#

Did Princess Zelda give you a song too?

midnight depot
#

Impa did. Song of water.

#

No ocarina though so I can't play it!

weary lagoon
#

Nice. Definitely the most useless song in the game

#

Though its nice as kid Link before you get the temple of time warp song, because the water warp takes you right next to an owl that can fly you to Castle Town

#

you have 2 more easy to access songs now that you have met the princess

#

But I wont tell you where they are because life is a journey

midnight depot
#

I'm fine with that. After the break I'm going to wrap up Kakariko village then give the shooting gallery a few more attempts.

weary lagoon
#

Have you managed to complete the epic cucco sidequest there

midnight depot
#

No, I arrived at night

weary lagoon
#

ah

#

you should go into the skulltula house and ask what they give so you know if they are worth looking for or not

midnight depot
#

I did! Good rewards at 20 and 30

weary lagoon
#

nice 30 should be easy enough

weary lagoon
#

now make it not a giant image

weary lagoon
#

I need to finish my current OOTMM before I start mixing up what ive done in that and this

midnight depot
#

Break over.

#

Time to grind.

#

Tracker status: https://i.imgur.com/qwse8DA.png
Pokemon is in the lead completion-wise, then A Hat in Time 1, then Wcctnoam, then A Hat in Time 2, then Hollow Knight, then Artiks, then yay899, then Minecraft, and finally my Ocarina of Time game.

#

I'm saving the chickens for the lady who is allergic to birds

fierce vale
fresh hill
#

wow

#

somehow you got all of my gaming energy for the month

midnight depot
#

Chicken minigame is done. Twenty rupees for Wcctnoam

ancient harness
#

giga

midnight depot
#

FlitterOoT sent Time Piece (Barrel Battle) to Chip1 (Kak Open Grotto Chest)

#

And that's everything in Kakariko. Next up is probably the graveyard tour if I can get time to pass properly

#

I keep getting seven slingshot targets. Just one short of a refund

clear summit
#

My Minecraft run will likely never hit 100%, so my goal is to clear ender dragon and release when appropriate

#

For some reason it included some insanely hard achievements

#

Also I won't be playing mostly for about 3 days, I have to prepare for my interview

midnight depot
#

Yeah, it's perfectly all right

fierce vale
#

PL_lunateehee i'm probably gonna release most things when i beat them

#

pokemon red doesn't have many extra checks, and the extra checks in hatty time are annoying

weary lagoon
#

Im going to finish last for the third time in a row GigaShad

midnight depot
#

You could have told me that earlier.

weary lagoon
#

thats a repeat

midnight depot
#

Oh good. I'll delete it then

weary lagoon
#

are you in zoras domain?

midnight depot
#

Yes!

#

Only two checks available there though

weary lagoon
#

so you have ocarina and lullaby?

midnight depot
#

No I set it to open in the settings

weary lagoon
#

aha

#

I thought you put almost everything on closed

midnight depot
#

At first, then I set it all to open so

#

Here are the settings I used

#

Apparently there's no Zora's domain open

#

Maybe I got inside because I have the scale that lets me swim deeper

#

(I got in through the back door)

weary lagoon
#

oh you swam in

#

your zoras fountain is set to closed

ancient harness
#

There's always the chicken

weary lagoon
#

though I guess zoras fountain is the king not the waterfall

midnight depot
#

Does the gravedigging tour have more than one major reward?

ancient harness
#

No

midnight depot
#

Oh good, then I got it on the first try

#

Hint 10

midnight depot
#

Again, too late.

#

Snatcher's contract for Chip2

#

Goron Bracelet for yay899

#

Bombs for yay

#

Golden scale for Artiks

midnight depot
#

Can confirm I'm still garbage at the slingshot minigame

weary lagoon
#

very nice

#

the scale should let me do a couple of things

midnight depot
#

This tunic must have cost around 400 rupees

weary lagoon
#

I had that one but its nice to have one in reserve

midnight depot
#

Oh well, good to know it wasn't blocking you

midnight depot
#

That's enough Ocarina of Time for the day.

#

I'm at 15%

midnight depot
#

Now I'm playing a little Hollow Knight!

#

Bottle for Artiks, ice trap for yay899

weary lagoon
#

very excited to hear about this bottle

midnight depot
midnight depot
#

Maybe instead of finishing my ocarina of time run last I'll finish first

sage dawn
#

Best item in the game

midnight depot
#

Oh you've still got the baby wallet

#

I like the brown theming on the buttons, health bar, magic

weary lagoon
#

now you can finally find the secret caves

fierce vale
#

CoolHat just a note that the version i'm playing on might require a tad bit of intervention though it shouldn't matter that much as you dont need to complete everything on the settings i have on

#

both of thse have like single console command fixes if they are needed though

#

BowKSmugDance oh wise artikins please bless me with the hookshot

#

rdsnrk also apparently both my saves umbrellas are in chip1 world

midnight depot
#

Yeah if you need me to run any commands I can do them as admin

midnight depot
#

That's Chipmon, Chip1, Wcctnoam, FlitterHK, Chip2, Artiks, yay899, Jay, FlitterOoT.

#

So it's time to play more Ocarina of Time!

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Oh I got Light Arrows

fierce vale
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CattoCry i would have the top 3 spots if only chip2's umbrella isn't blocked by chip1 which just generally needs moreresources sent to it || PL_lunateehee ||

midnight depot
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That means I only need the rest of the Triforce to beat the game

weary lagoon
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and maybe hookshot? not sure

fierce vale
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BowKSmugDance oh wise someones please bless artiks with the hookshot and fire temple keyring

midnight depot
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Apparently this is the infinite money grotto

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The 26 rupees respawn each time

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They really should make those automatically listed in archipelago

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Wow, death mountain is fucking brutal

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When time runs out you instantly die

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I thought it would quickly deal damage to you, which gives you a few more seconds

midnight depot
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Saria gave me Requiem of Spirits.

weary lagoon
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that was nice of her

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big fan of the infinite money cave

ancient harness
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Same

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When you roll overworld spawns it has like 10 checks in there

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I wish I could get into adult ZF, I have iron boots....

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Oh but no zora's tunic nvm

midnight depot
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L is real 2401

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Luigi is Ocarina of Time's secret second character!

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@shy oyster might like this

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It's a texture in SM64 reused in OoT

ancient harness
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Yeah they put him in MM in the end

midnight depot
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And that's why Ocarina of Time is better than Majora's Mask

ancient harness
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Don't disrespect Luigi like that

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Also don't forget about the Lon Lon brothers

weary lagoon
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Talon and Ingo actually arent related

ancient harness
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Oh

shy oyster
midnight depot
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Time to stop playing OoT for now

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I'm no longer in last!

weary lagoon
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gonna do the few things I can do now

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I got more stuff than I expected

midnight depot
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Nice!

sage dawn
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@clear summit Your brewing is locked behind 50 skulls for me

clear summit
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That probably shouldn't matter too much

sage dawn
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Yeah, seems nice to have but the important things can be circumvented with piglin trades

clear summit
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The biggest problem I have, except my real life, is the fact that I am stuck with my stone pickaxe

sage dawn
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Oof

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@midnight depot You need boss essence?

midnight depot
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No

sage dawn
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Sweet

weary lagoon
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@fierce valeJust found your water gun TM this is so big

midnight depot
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I should have more than enough essence without the really difficult ones

fierce vale
sage dawn
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Not difficult, just needs giant's wallet

midnight depot
fierce vale
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"progressive tool" pickups

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i think

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magipog also like 3 time pieces for chip2 lets go

clear summit
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Yeah

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Progressive tool

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I can already make iron ingots

ancient harness
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Can't hint it yet?

weary lagoon
midnight depot
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Ayy, thanks!

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I can finally sing

sage dawn
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Artik's mirror shield requires my hookshot. It has to be in the one of like two hyrule field grotto checks I can't do

weary lagoon
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my boomerang is in your gerudo fortress if you have epona

sage dawn
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I do not

midnight depot
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This is my special attack. @weary lagoon is now green

weary lagoon
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wow im tingle

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alright thats all I can do for now

ancient harness
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Platime! I can buy some <200 things but that's about it I think

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I wonder how many Deku Shields are in the game...

midnight depot
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If you don't randomize scrubs you can get infinite ones

ancient harness
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Unfortunalty I do

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I just need one...

midnight depot
ancient harness
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Yeah I'm curious about the amount, not the locations

midnight depot
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Six* (in all worlds)

*||There's a catch though.||

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Time to fight Ding Kokongo

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I have 29 bombs. Will that be enough? Only one way to find out

ancient harness
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You only need 3

midnight depot
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Yeah but I need to land 3

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Meaning I need thirty

weary lagoon
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hes the easiest boss in any video game

midnight depot
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Turns out that was true

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I thought he was gonna be the big flying worm thing

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King Dodongo had iron ore for Jay

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And the 10 skulltula reward is porkchops for Jay

weary lagoon
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jay is feasting

midnight depot
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It's not just Jay who's feasting

ancient harness
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Also feasting

midnight depot
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Malon had the song of time!

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All of a sudden my tracker lit up

ancient harness
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They really put a GS in the middle of the "flaming rocks fall, everyones dies" trail?

weary lagoon
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ye

ancient harness
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Oh shit the adult potions shop had a deku shield

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That's two chests in Deku tree!