#Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer
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Yeah good luck with that
Yeah, sadly Requiem doesn't do it
But who knows if another song will
Well, Requiem might do it, given what we said the other day about being necessary
@midnight depot is Ether important
I skipped in Adult ZD with hover boots
just walked through the waterfall?
No it's trash
Yeah hover from the edge where you jump with the cuckoo
That's fair
guess ill go to king zora and prepare for getting the letter
If only Adult Link could hold a deku stick...
what for
He's too afraid of looking childish
So much stuff here at the bottom
Lighting torches
you didnt do that when you were there as a kid?
It doesn't stay light up as an adult
but it doesnt do anything if you already got the chest
Ah
meanwhile me without even goron bracelets
Wait is it grey rocks that I can lift
dont know
red rocks are destroyed by hammer not sure what you need to lift them
did you unfreeze king zora
No, he gives something?
I can lif the silver rocks in the gerudo rock-treasure-chest room but not hte ones inside death mountain
are they the same?
I know theres 3 big rocks
one that bombs destroy, one that hammer gets, and one unbreakable (or gold gauntlets?)
They're grey, as opposed to bombable-brown and hammer-red
50 skulltuals reward better be good....
power star for 255 rupees if i get the better wallet
i can go to forest temple now
thats gonna be yet another song and a bunch of checks
only have 1 key though
Eponas song
I have every regular song but only two warps
ye
20 rupees 
Buy me saria song
Lullaby 
That was on the limit with hover boots
The great faerie fountains you only need to go once with either version right
they dont change from child to adult
except the one outside ganons castle / hyrule castle
That one, death mountain, frozen lake and what else?
death mountain crater requires hammer
Ah
Oh fuck I have to do it for every reward
ah my worst enemy
block that you're supposed to be able to move but I dont even have the child strength upgrade so I cant
thats it for forest temple
My progress in forest, fire and water are all blocked by these blocks you're just supposed to be able to move 
Oh right magic lense
you found your magic?
Yeah in that cluster of rupees
nice
Remember where I needed to light fires as an adult is kinda rought. I did graveyard and that's about it
do you have hookshot
no
thats rough
did you check for the hint in dampes hut
We're doing the same thing lol
BUNNY HOOD
The jar is spitting rupees so it's probably done
ye looks like you got all 3 outcomes in the log
Bro i lost the race for Epona..
So when I sell the bunny mask to the running man I get an item?
im not sure
havent thought about it yet because the running man only spawns when you have all 3 spiritual stones
fml I have to do horse archery minigame now
can not for the life of me find the last carpenter
I don't understand what I'm supposed to do
The stuff is just floating there and it's not an invis platform
No just an infinite black chasm-ceiling
hookshot them?
Nothing important there
Gotta look up all song of time checks because I barely know a few
Okay no other time blocks I can access right now
....
yeah its called progressive hookshoot
but the autocorrect to slingshot is so bad
I got the reward for 1000
ill just pretend like the 1500 is a green rupee
I hope it's not something of mine
oh no, you found the one weakness of levenshtein distance suggestions
tbf I'm impressed this thing has suggestions at all
It should not decide to use your hint without an exact match
maybe flitter can reset it
It's fine now I'm gonna learn BotW early

missing 1 gtg key for the final chest (its golden of course)
OH THE JARS GIVE 100 POINTS
this minigame might be doable
im the greatest gamer of all time
BotW early 
no song of storms?
Just ISG and a cuckoo
whats ISG again
Infinite Sword Glitch
That doesn't let you skip hammer. You still need it for the last hit. It's just the quick kill
Yeah randomizer adds a 999
im gonna need a map for this bottom of the well room without eye of truth..
The rocks in Death Mountain Crater are red
I guess the filter masks that
Oh shit nice
I fucking suck at archery
And there are two easy ways to do BotW early. One with ISG and Cucco, one with Navi text.
There's also trade item diving and magic diving but I don't know how to do either of those
time for my 50 skulltula reward
It's gonna be good
glowing womb!
are there no checks on top of the castle
No
It's just yoshi and a wing cap up there
I do think it would be cool to shuffle yoshi
i think im back in BK now after a looong session
Also wow I didn't realize you were doing rupee shuffle and shit
went from like 35 to 58% 
i only shuffled skulls and keys
wcct shuffled everything in the game
time for dinner and after that yay has probably gotten me like 3 new key items
I expected more from the coffins
I mean I can only play for like 20 more minutes
Holiday and I have to visit gf's family
Mario 64 only takes 20 minutes
easy
the same guy has WR in almost every category..
Bro rancid egss should not be in big chests
this is what ive always said
Yeah they should go in the skultula chests
Now I'm really in BK mode
Can't get the LW ones without scales
i see. not with iron boots?
There's different things as child than with adult
ooh
HUGE GAUNTLETS
you're telling me I could have had those from the start 
but yeah very nice they were gatekeeping me in 3 dungeons
Well I didn't know about that stuff until I had left Kokiri
Fuck nighttime skulltulas
At least I think that's how I've been to ZR 1000 times and I'm missing two
skulltula spawns also depend on being kid or adult really annoying
oh yeah still no hookshoot..
you need fire water and forest medalion
didnt even know you could get the giants knife
I think I remember a setting about not randomising that one, because I got mine where you're supposed to get it
Or so I think. I got it from the big goron inside the city
The room behind 4 bombable walls
ye he sold me a recovery heart
I guess it makes sense ain't nobody gonna use it, you don't want to get that from a chest or something
And 1 extra check ain't worth it
nothing good in fire, will need more keys and hammer to progress
im on 60 so I can hint but not sure what I want 
How many songs do you have

my songs are on song locations though
golden scale!
wonder if it does more than the 1 check in the lab
Songs in song locations instead of anywhere might be nice, I'll have to try that next time
they are kinda the big "items" in this game so its cool to work towards them
Yeah, there's difficulty getting to them so it would be nice if you got one even if it's not the vanilla one
Guaranteed something new to go do
just performed a crazy sequence break for your water temple key
Well, I've used all my songs at the frogs so far so you're waiting on whichever has it
Oh yeah, right next to the dungeon
WHAT
you can walk across the quicksand with hover boots
thought that was a long shot check
got your song of storms
im at the colossus give me good stuff
Bolero, could have been better for sure
cant enter the dungeon without silver gauntlets but at least I got both of us a song
Love key is basically the only good thing out of my SoS grottos
Flitter has like 6 new key items when he starts Hollow Knight
Thanks
I see
Oh, sorry for the ping
Good morning all.
I'm looking for my gathering swarm if it's convenient. It should be in yay's world. at BoB: Bob-omb Buddy in the THI Tiny entrance
Now I should probably spin some time
There's Artiks's megaton hammer
Now I can defeat the evil dragon
Yeah you can do the explosives on the hole or weird shot to shoot it with the bow underground, but last shot always has to be hammer stun into sword damage.
Sticks probably work too, but that's only if you're randomizing master sword.
I should really learn weird shot.
All right. It looks like I need this item to proceed in Timespinner https://i.imgur.com/ztPsZFK.png
Fortunately all checks in the past are done https://i.imgur.com/VslrLl4.png
Thanks for the items, everyone! That's every dreamer, so now I have to find the second king's fragment and the void heart so I can finish the game
I cleared every shop. It doesn't look like I can get to many new places (other than for the simple key I got earlier
Oh yeah, and the love key. It looks like I can also use left crystal dash to say hi to sheo
Progressive Strength Upgrade for Artiks
Wcctnoam's bomb bag was all the way in the black egg temple
Oh yeah, you need right dash too
Wait, no! You can double jump to the right just barely
Lens of Truth for Artiks
Progressive Strength for Wcctnoam
And it looks like Hollow Knight is in BK mode again. I need:
1- Lumafly Lantern.
2- Isma's Tear.
3- Kingfragment 2.
4- Void Heart.
5- Right mothwing cloak.
And to make any progress in Timespinner I need Security Key card D, which should be in Artiks's world at Spirit Temple Compass Chest.
Catch my ass trying to steal Epona
You still don't have the horse?
You should be starting with Epona
Oh I guess you also want Epona's song
FlitterTR's Timespinner Wheel is at Forest Temple GS First Room in Wcctnoam's World.
This skip is definitely not something I can manage
With Timespinner wheel and Timespinner gear 3 I should be able to beat the game
What items do you need to get there without a skip?
Hookshot
I see.
I figured out the only way to make Rainbow Ride worse
Make it metal cap entrance
It had dins fire though
Holy hookshot
So much room for activities
Lol got your beans the moment you have hookshot and don't need most of them
They really mead it so the mirror shield does not reflect deku nuts
3rd jewel pog
Basically full cleared.
Missed a 1up block in wet dry, and have red coin star and a 1up block in the final level
Is the ocarina in the moat the only check of all 3 jwels
Assuming open Door of Time
If you're done with the game don't forget to do !release for the remaining items
Yeah. Cutscene as child right at the bridge
Who gives you the song of time then
Picking up ocarina gives you both checks
Ah cool
The door mocks me https://i.imgur.com/KJd7vFn.png
I guess I gotta play other games until I'm freed
I have no idea why some geo rocks are randomized even though I selected the option not to
ill see what I can do in spirit temple without longshot
You could use one of your hints to find it
Oh
i got the security card you wanted
Nice! Thanks
Ah thanks, double jump
Looks like I'm now locked behind keycards B and C. C only contains a few checks while B allows me to go to the next area.
Ah that's perfect. Spirit Temple boss chest had a potion for me
I should probably take those out of the randomizer next time I play Timespinner
Nice! I had the exact amount of keys needed to get to the end of spirit
That's great
i missed out on one check I need fire arrows for
Twinrowa had the gilded egg and forest medalion!
Gilded egg is neat. It boosts familiar experience, but you need to get it early for it to count
got pretty far in shadow, but ran into a longshot target I couldnt get to
Weaversong, heavy blow, fury of the fallen. Thanks!
didnt find anything for wcct except suns song so I hope he still has places to go with the hookshot
Yeah whatever I can do in Forest and Water temples with half their keys
I'm not sure what boss keys I have
Right, tracker. I'm good for boss keys escepr Forest and Ganon
Does the tracker not tell you?
Oh yeah
Other than the tracker you can open the log file and Ctrl+f
What condition did you choose for Ganon's boss key?
I shuffled it
I am saving my 80% hint for that unless someone finds it before I unlock rainbow bridge
@ancient harness You should look at my tracker for water. Thats all I was able to get without longshot
its a good amount
iirc I have 5 keys there but ive only used 3
might be 4
oh and you asked about what 3 spiritual stones unlocked. The running man should be in Hyrule field now
Right
you double-jumped through that?
ah, that makes way more sense
The double jump is way easier and you do it on the other side of the loop
Upon entering the room you can double jump to the right, right mantis claw to grab on to the wall just above the thorns and double jump to the left.
But usually if you have double jump you have right crystal dash since double jump opens a lot of things
Nice, Bolero takes me to desert colossus
Yeah
Plnated the magic bean, did the oasis, opened the fairy
Now I'll do what I can as a child
This could become a simple two-trip dungeon
HUGE item for you
Wait what mask do you use with the scrub theatre in LW?
This game does not like savestates
Turn the expansion slot option on if you haven't
This should allow you to use save states but the option does not show up until you load the game
That helped thanks
Fantastic
Nice work! Tomorrow should be the last free day I have so I'm going to release my items then. Good night
Can't get to Emperor's tower without keycard D.
Alrighty
isnt that the one I found
I'll still need longshot but this scarecrow I fixed with hoverboots
Oh I got keycard D
Hoverboots have been clutch for a lot of my skips
I guess I'll play a little instead of going to sleep
Yo I can finally spin the time https://i.imgur.com/erFf8Od.png
Ah, my bad
I need keycard B
D lets me get into the inner security section but B lets me get into the lab from D
And I'm out of hints so I can't tell you where it is
Huge get for Artiks
Oh you got him the Ocarina
Oh right, the forest boss key I don't have
Well, that's the rest of the temple done
Whaterver % of the water temple I can do
You might have more checks available in the overworld than any other place, considering how many items you have
The overworld includes everything Gerudo which I can't get to
And Epona, or longshot
I should've made it so I can have more hints
GINORMOUS get for Artiks
This river had a lot of goodies and I ain't even done with it
Maybe I was
Yeah nice
I think I'm done here. Is the chest after Shadow Link the longshot in vanilla?
Yeah I followed the river back to the central room and of course I have nowhere else to go
But I got everything I could
Wasteland backwards is so annoying
sounds awful
There's just this tiny turn with bullshit boundaries
I did follow a youtube guide to do it blind my first visit this time but it was the right way
not backwards
Starting at 0:15 is why I had to go look at the boundaries. The map I was following was a smooth arc but there's this red area on the right I kept hitting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQZ2wsYLeew
Oh. I rescued one guy and eveyrone is friendly.
Oh you didnt shuffle the card?
I guess, I got it right after
If that's your boomerang I need longshot
its in gtg
and no i got that chest with hookshot
stand on the top roof and you reach the scarecrow
my boomerang should be you enter gtg and first room to your right
7 keys out of 9, here it goes
hold up
you can clear if you dont use wrong keys
well wrong doors
make sure you go left not right in the key room
then youre ok
What's the efficient way of fighting the skeletons with shields
you might need 8/9
wait until they start their attack animation then swing
you should go over your tracker carefully in gtg, a lot of hidden checks
wonder if I can hint your eponas song...
I have a big gold chest in the middle I need 1 more key for
I got one within the key maze so I'm just missing one for the right-path chest
Got everything else
And it's a good chest too 
I couldn't finish the other paths either
Do I have to beat the running man?
right path chest should be attainable with no keys by entering via the song of time path in the room with silver rupees
I have no idea how running man works
Nevermind it's not a check
No that's just selling him the bunny ears as a child
Adult running man is in the carpenter's tent, he challenges to a race but you can never win
oh I didnt know about that
thought we were talking about child
alright, time to play
if I have the boomerang I will hunt skulltulas across the world until I find eponas song
How is Yay 97% done and I'm still finding powerstars
because you only need 70/120 stars to open everything
its kind of a weird archipelago game
I doubt 160/164 checks means she only has 70 stars
you know how it works?
yay has collected 160/164 checks in her game
it doesnt mean she has 120 stars
as soon as she got 70 stars she could get 164/164
No because that 164 is all checks, everything that was randomised. All 120 stars are included, plus the caps and I don't know what else.
Cannons I guess
yes and everything in SM64 is unlocked when you have 70 stars
so glad I turned on bunny hood speed
Yeah
Also that I bound my Fast Forward button
Holy hell
That was a thicc skulltula
eponas song better be on a lon lon ranch skulltula
me trying to remember all the skulltulas ive had to run past as child..
one in deku tree for sure
void heart got
wrong song...
Open inventory and hold A
I got the light medalion I assume that does nothing
I think so
Yeah light medalion is kinda useless
Also 100% done
And that's not me having 164 of my items. It's me checking 164 of my locations
You'll be finding stars for a while lol
hm is that adult or child
I don't even have 100
Child only
At night
In the box by the two chests
I don't know why it's a night skull
ALSO YO WCCT DOING BACKWARDS WASTELAND?
Hell yeah speed tricks
child only boulder maze cmon game..
I had to because my Epona song doesn't exist
And you didn't have long shot yeah
I don't think backwards wasteland is ever required, but my favorite part about OoT rando is being in BK mode and learning new tricks so I can keep playing out of logic
My GTG had Artiks' boomerang which is a huge block
adult or child?
And yeah SM64 is kinda weird in archipelago in the sense that you need like five items to full clear. But I wanted to do something chill after last rando
Tree is child, above bridge adult
If you don't have longshot, you need to stand on the fence to reach the adult one IIRC
his frogs has my longshot
Final frogs?
yeyeye
there was one on the tracker that said "colossus hill GS" I couldnt find
is it child
Adult night skull. You can either ride a magic bean to it or hookshot it from the ground. But then you have to deal with trying to hit it while being attacked by leavers.
It's the large hill by the great fairy fountain
Before I go all the way there does normal hookshot work
it was a rancid egg!
got one more possible check
its the gold gauntlets great fairy
big money big money
power star!
guess im doing this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8nckaDqlZs
One of a collection of tricks that can be used in an Ocarina of Time Randomizer to get items easier, quicker, or with alternative requirements.
More tricks can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrKbdckQVsRoBGmWus7TF3bLlDhoWoNcI
Yeah you don't need longshot although you already figured it out
Also fun fact, that shadow temple trick is in logic
wow
I was unable to get the scarecrow GS on the ship though
Also, ive gone over the list and i think its impossible to get more checks unless I get longshot or more dungeon keys
Im going to double check water because I have 3 keys there, but I dont think they do me any good without longshot
If you have hover boots you can do water temple boss key chest without longshot
Which is also in logic
oh? ill check it out now
Let me grab the faq that lists weird things in logic
I did Central Bow Target Chest without longshot which I thought was pretty badass
its here right?
how do I cross
I don't know lol
That's it for shadow temple for me, need 1 key for the final section
i guess if you got water keys you can do this too 
4 keys and I already used 2
You only need four keys if skipped the pillar key door
Two for dark link and two for boss key
Also if you have hovers you can skip the slow puzzle on the way to the boss key by just walking to where the boulders are rolling out in the first room
there you go
I guess I cant get to the boss without longshot?
shoot the eyes
the timing is punishing you need to hit all 4 before any of them go out
Yeah you need longshot to get to the boss
I think you can do a super slide with hover boots but that's kinda hard
alright im in BK mode ive done all I can
Also if you jump on the center platform you can run around the statue and shoot them which is a bit easier
Wcct: once you clear that room you have to come back to it later to enter the door that opens up top. Can also be done with a scarecrow but I couldnt do it with normal hookshot
If you come from the top side of the room, you can do the statue and then void out to go back up there
Just jump in the lava
What areas are these in?
both are spirit temple
OH
i cant access it as child
Sun block room you light all the torches. It can be done as adult
The metal fence is child only
Yeah without equip swap you need fire arrows
tried with dins fire but im pretty sure the cutscene was too long
Yeah I think it is
you have a vendor you can do in lost woods heads up
quite a few overworld checks
I ignored that scrub because I turned scrubs shuffled off
but apparently some scrubs still shuffle 
i guess its the ones that sell real upgrades in vanilla
Cleared out GTG. Time to find out where Prelude takes me
Also to the spirit temple
what..
Timespinner Gear 3 sounds important
did you get on the boat
After. There was nothing on the boat
ah I saw all this stuff
whats the blue thing
hearpiece
no keys for me..
Oh you can't even get to the boss without longshot
Oh
but the door there has another normal key
Yeah i have 0
Just lost a bunch of progress. Game was running like crap, like 2 frames a second, so I saved and quite, relaunched and I'm back halfway through the forest temple. I get everything everyone got for me since then but everything I got for myself most of the evening I have to get again.
So, I !release. Enjoy longshot and Keycard C
A bunch of keys, a few charms, the rest seems like mostly pickups
Unfortunate. At least I got like 80% done or something
It didn't look like anything else important of mine was in my game
I saw another slingshot at the end of the list, though I would've assumed I had them all
guess ill see how far this gets me
Longshot is a big get
Well for me there was random bullshit behind longshots because of the extra pickup rando 
hilarious that im about to hit 100 skulltulas in a rando
Yeah I was at 87 or something too
What do you even get at 100 if you didn't rando that, just money?
Lol
Kinda weird. ive done everything in water temple but still have one key
I remember something about this. Is there one too many maybe?
hm
ive never 100%ed OoT so im gonna get every check before Ganon
vanilla location bow
thats it for forest, need more keys
didnt get that much done. Flitter has a lot of my dungeon keys
Nice, thanks!
Timespinner gear 3 is the last item I need to finish the game!
Oh you also got me all the security cards!
The tablet was in the fucking end of the world
Now I have to go back and check every computer in the world to get the checks behind them
And that's every check! Time to fight the final boss
Next up is Hollow Knight
With Hollow Knight I have access to all my abilities and charms so I should be able to get every check
And game over
That was all but two checks, I believe. Unfortunately the tracker says otherwise
It was four checks, not two
looks like im on my own again then
Oh I didn't see that. That sucks
One upside of the way archipelago works is any items that you get from other worlds or send to other worlds cannot lost if you reload an older save
The only items you lose are ones from your own world
thanks for the final ice trap
bongo bongo had vessel fragment!
this is funny
imagine if yay did !hint power star
I wonder if it just picks a random power star or the "next" one
dont you think it shows all of them
like !Hint progressive hookshot shows both
or !hint piece of heart gave me all
It would be silly to give you many items for the price of one hint
I know on Hollow Knight each item is named a unique name so this can never happen
well it does in oot
I can understand why you feel hints are too good then
i woldnt do !hint piece of heart unless I didnt need the hint so thats not why
Okay, fair enough
the running man paid me 700 rupees for the bunny hood, thanks
Seems like a fair deal considering you're almost done
He can finally play
No he's nice
Epona's song 
"100 spiders of the curse"
I love this
What a contrived way to shoehorn a collectible quest. They didn't have to go that far
the last GS was a mask shard
Randomising the random rupees and hearts was kind of fun because it allowed these clusters of items you could get to every now and then. The only problem really was I didn't know I did that at first, and not knowing where they all are, but at least I do know
Random song teleportation that's a no, I'd rather they take me where they take me
Yeah
Don't you have chest matches contents?
yes
Maybe I never got a purple rupee in a chest but if you had asked me it would be in a small chest
the size doesnt change
That's hilarious
looks like he has a lot of custom dialogue
he said something else last time
And we're done
Great run everyone. Had a lot of fun with the fewer hints. Felt like a treasure hunt
I'm glad you had fun!
That's everyone's game.
It's a shame Wcctnoam lost some data at the end.
Here's the spoiler log if you're curious
And the regular log
The YAML file I used was
It doesn't make any mentions of Epona, other than that you're allowed to skip the epona race
So maybe it does that by "giving" you Epona but you actually need the song to summon her?
ah
I don't understand
I don't have Epona song for sure
I mean I didn't. And didn't Artiks find it earlier today?
Yeah
It might be that you're given Epona but she's inaccessible unless you have the song
Oh I see
It looks like that in the "intended" progression, Wcctnoam finishes last, with my Hollow Knight game, my Timespinner game, Artiks, and yay899 in reverse order
MAkes sense giben my amount of checks
yay899 finishes so early that the game keeps going for 28 more steps
We never found Security Keycard B, but it was supposed to be on the fourth step
yeah the skulltula in wccts graveyard
I got the one in the soft soil
theres one on the wall at night
Hookshot needed?
It was Graveyard GS Wall (Wcctnoam): Security Keycard B (FlitterTR)
I see
Needs slingshot and boomerang, I think
only boomerang
Oh I saw a video with both, but it makes sense
you're bound to miss a few things playing a randomizer for a game you havent played for 20 years haha
i had to look up a lot of skulltulas and grottos
never in my life done the song of storms grottos
or the really weird secret grotto in zoras domain
if you ever play again, make sure to enable the setting that makes it so night time skulltulas wont be in logic before suns song
I found a nice list of grottos by areas but not one of skulltulas by areas, just straight up the 100 of them in some random order
Now I'll have to decide if I want to jump straight into the MM rando or finally play FF VII Remake
Might be better to set up the randomizer and leave it, taking a break with the remake
Today I learned Nintendo invented Boomrats
Real Bombchus are the living mouse-like counterpart of the Bombchu which runs around and explodes upon contact with Link. They are the in-game inspiration for Bombchus. Real Bombchus were first introduced in Majora's Mask, and later appeared in The Wind Waker and Four Swords Adventures.
I'm pretty sure when I did !hint Pale_Ore it showed me all six
I see
So sad we never got Wcct doing horse archery minigame on keyboard gameplay...
I would've bound the mouse for that
But it would been painful, I tried it a bit
At least you don't have to control Epona during that
Getting the big poes would've been impossible tho, probably
the big poe is easy, I did it without Epona
just pulled out my bow as soon as it spawned and fired twice
I saw them spawn sometimes but they would instantly run away and disappear
ye they have set spawn points so I knew where and when it would pop out
Definitely easier to do without Epona yeah
Although the spawn rate is worse without Epona
Only 2/5 apparently
Instead of always
We should run another one of these

OOTMM has multiworld if everyones up for that 
I'm back!
(I'm up for a game starting tomorrow or a day in this week)
It's a little late right now and I need 20 hours of sleep but let's talk details soon
I'm down for OOTMM multiworld but I don't know the MM half very well
And I know neither so we're half even
I don't think it's everyone does both? Just everyone does one or the other?
Tho of course it should be balanced numbers
Yeah.
Maybe we can change this thread to be about Multiworld randomizers in general
i dont know either super well but i'll join and dream
i just might have to use a guide
That way we can do an at here
I think OOT is easier to do even if you never did it than MM with the same nill experience
i've played both, but its probably been like 15 years for oot and like 10 for MM 
but ye, oot would be fine by me
I have more interest in Majora's Mask
OOT for me too, I don't dare to do MM
Okay so I will need someone's expertise to guide me at first, but I'm willing to organize an Ocarina of Time / Majora's Mask group Multiworld and get everyone interested up to speed
Questions:
1- Does it support asynchronous play?
2-Does it support an arbitrary number of players?
3- Which emulators would work?
I can probably figure these out on my own tomorrow
Artiks will know a little
Oof
that'll take a while especially with some semi blind playthroughs
yes MM is hard
It can be played asynchronous
think you need project 64
and yeah you can be whatever from 2 to 120 something
if I'm reading this right, Artiks and Yay seemed up for OoT + MM, but everyone else was responding as if they'd only play one of those two games?
Fantastic. I'm in!
I'm playing both but I might need a while. I think I can finish both in fifteen days so how about we make the run two months long?
I'll pick easy settings and look at guides
it is the best rando ive played. the devs add so much cool stuff
they are working on adding this to archipelago so I think it wont be too long before those who want to can play that and those who want to play other stuff can do that
Correct. I have been keeping track but I don't think it will be this year
i'll join only on one if possible even if its 2 months, i will 100% forget about it or get distracted before completing both
i still have to beat that vanilla ive done 2 dungeons
(probably half the channel knows this already but just to be clear, I'm also not interested in playing an OoT or an MM randomizer, much less both; I haven't even played regular MM)
Hmm
So what if we do a regular archipelago soon and wait for OOTMM to come to it?
Though playing MM daunts me I also don't want to run two games and switch between them. One is enough and the ideal for me
Do OOTMM and I'll join on the next one there's no issue
i could play 2 if i knew them well enough i could just focus a bunch of goals, but lack of knowledge would make them fall apart
Yeah, so I could take it slow and do one archipelago run where I run Ocarina of Time to start
And hopefully by the time we do another, OOTMM comes to archipelago
I cant play just OOT anymore its dead to me
I agree
I'll think about what I want to play tomorrow then invite everyone into an asynchronous archipelago game of their choosing with a time limit of 15-30 days
What's pokemon rando like
hm, for Archipelago... my choice is probably between Blasphemous, Link to the Past, and Super Mario 64
yo links awakening is in this
Pokemon runs take 2-6 hours if you have a map and tracker ready or know the game
The randomizer makes it fun for archipelago by adding more HM gates and key item gates
since you are keeping tabs on this, is Wind Waker in development?
that rando is so polished
for me its ds3 again, factorio (though factorio is pretty annoying to setup looking at it), raft (maybe? i don't know how well it would work with randomiser), super mario world, super mario 64
Wind Waker is not in development
why not ..
Someone promised to work on it and then went silent
Last news I see is from January
since your looking, can you peek at hat in time
it was labled as in progress last i checked
Hat in Time is in beta. You can grab a world file or something? I'll have to look later
i might hop in on hatty time though i'd need a second game
i'll join on 4 instances of hat in time



Why does ponydev have the horny one?
It's a furry server
So's Manechat
It's a furry programmers server
Understandable have a nice day
i was going through the server and theres an abandoned version of a celeste randomizer
All right
It's time to make a formal announcement and see if there's interest. @ancient harness, can I ping @here or something, or should I just not bother?
@here
Good afternoon, all.
I'm starting another Manechat Asynchronous Archipelago Game, with the intent of running until September. If you're interested, please read the list of available games https://archipelago.gg/games and pick one or more games to run, then ping me so I can keep track of you and help you out with any problems. Anyone is free to join, so feel free to invite friends or people you think might make the game more entertaining, but I won't advertise the game out of this thread.
For this run, I'll be running hollow knight and ocarina of time. Whenever you've picked a game, feel free to customize the settings and then send me a YAML file.
If you need any help just talk to me. You have one day to pick a game. We'll start ~24 hours from now.
Assuming you play five hours a week total, you will have 15 hours to finish your game.
@midnight depot 2 hatty time and a pokemon red presuming i can get it working 
Great! Do try to set up a solo game with two instances of a hat in time just to make sure you can do it
Some games do not work well if you play more than one copy at once
the yaml specifies that it should be possible but thats the (if i can get it working) clause
I think I may try minecraft
Do you have info about A Hat in Time?
Is it this repository? https://github.com/CookieCat45/AHIT-APRandomizer
Minecraft might be a tad weird, so would appreciate it if you pick relatively conservative settings to ensure the archipelago game runs smoothly
I will, I am not really good at minecraft anyway
But I am also pretty sure it would be possible for even me to beat ender dragon in time
I will disable all the 'hard' and 'unreasonable' achievements, I don't want to do them anyway
Yeah!
I'll do another OOT
awkward, that's right in the middle of an in-office work day for me
I may not be able to super actively play for first few days
If you need extra time I can delay another day. I just wanted to do a full three weeks
lol, the Blasphemous randomizer has a setting that makes anyone dying kill everyone else in the multiworld (I assume it only covers other Blasphemouses but)
To get 15 hours by the end you should expect to allocate ~40 minutes a day, but it's absolutely fine to take breaks of several days.
Yes! This one's fun but only works well in synchronous games
It covers every game that has the setting
oooh
Including Hollow Knight and so on
but yeah bad for us
gonna turn it on for both my hatty time saves and then add a dark souls
im going to play OoT again maybe itll be fun in archipelago now that I know every single nook and cranny of that game
and I dont wanna set up another game

I thought the keyrings were implemented
oh there it is
def playing that
I added max ice traps enjoy
hm..
Im gonna change from onslaught to mayhem
Okay, so I'm going to make a quick list of who's in:
Joining:
Flitter (Hollow Knight, Ocarina of Time)
Chip (Pokemon Red, A Hat in Time x2)
Wcctnoam (Ocarina of Time. YAML at #1119170161518334004 message)
Jay (Minecraft. YAML at #1119170161518334004 message)
Artiks (Ocarina of Time. YAML at #1119170161518334004 message)
My Hollow Knight settings for this run
I put 8 triforce shards in my game, should be exciting
Nice
I'm thinking for Ocarina of Time I might want to make the game as closed as possible at the start and slowly open up so I don't get overwhelmed but eventually can reach anywhere
I make mine very closed cause its fun
Yeah but I want every location to be accessible
So I get to experience the whole game
right
I'm also going for triforce hunt!
But I'll have 20 pieces, and only need 10 to finish
I get that if it was a solo game but theres 6+ worlds
Most of your pieces arent going to be in your game
Correct!
That's why there's a bunch of them instead of exactly 8
I don't want to be stuck for too long and slow people down
They gate the end
My reasoning is I want to have to finish a good segment of the game before I'm able to release all my items, but I don't want to get stuck for so long other people get bored.
so you're locking the rainbow bridge behind the triforce?
No I'm just enabling triforce hunt mode
Ok I get it you want the game to be in a finished state so you can !release when you want to even if youre not done
Yeah, I want to be able to finish the game in about 30 hours total
And I know a 100% of the game can take a newbie like me ~80 hours
Here's my Ocarina of Time file. Any advice on what I should change or include?
Thanks so much for your help
Do open forest or you might get stuck in BK in the first 5 minutes while we find you the deku shield.
I dont know what small keys regional is.
I like ganon bosskey on keysanity
Keyring isnt really a normal OoT experience so idk if Id do it first time.
Also wouldnt turn off escape sequence, guard stealth and epona race for a first timer
Free scarecrow is a very nice QOL you should consider
Chicken count at 7 for first time
Oh yeah. Open forest it is.
Small keys regional means that for each dungeon, the keys for that dungeon will be in the region.
Keyring is there to ensure people don't have to find me like twenty different small keys, but I'll turn it off!
I don't want to do guard stealth or epona race, but I'll re-enable escape sequence.
I didn't want to be stuck with one impossible cuccoo so I set it to 4 but I guess 7 is fine
I would consider to do small keys in dungeon to avoid the many revisits that comes with keysanity
kinda overwhelming first time
Yeah
the cucco game is one of the most memorable parts of OoT, same with child stealth, and they arent hard or anything
Okay, I'll enable them!
if you skip epona race you dont get that jump over the fence part
peak of the game ๐
I got that part in Twilight Princess
considering my energy levels so far this week, I think I'm gonna have to sit out this archipelago
Okay, here's another version with all your proposed changes.
That's sad, but I hope to see you in the next one!
skullsanity is fun but finding 100 skulltulas you dont know where is would take a while
Yeah, did I pick that by accident?
no its off
Oh good. I agree! Finding all skulltulas is crazy
ye
@midnight depot heya, can i get some assitance testing the hat in time install? its theoretically installed and working but i dont know any extras i may need
(i dont know what i'd need to do with the apworld file for example
)
Sure. I'll try things out tomorrow and tell you what I find out
my hat in time yamls (i dont know if they need to be A.Hat.in.Time.yaml or can be renamed like this)
It's tomorrow
So let's try to figure out how A Hat in Time works
@fierce vale so it looks like you need to mod your game first in accordance with #1120157130100572260 message (On the Archipelago server)
yeah, i've got it all setup on my end for at least one save
i just need to find out if it actually works and i dont know what to do with the apworld file+how to setup the server part
Okay, next
I gotta download the APworlds file from the github repository and put it on my computer then generate a game using it
I actually have no clue how to generate
Okay!
Try this game, @fierce vale https://archipelago.gg/room/MqnOeUwuSyygbnhwDfsmtg
You can join as Chip1



my dream of 4 hatty time worlds seems possible
gonna be in so much pain