Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer | Manechat | Page 2

clear summit Jun 26, 2023, 2:00 AM

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These are what I need minimum to clear, I guess I have to eventually wait for yay

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I can obliterate but I don't think that counts as clearing

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 8:21 AM

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CoolHat we'll see how far i get struggling with a ultra heavy build before swapping to a scythe and single trying every area with like 2 estus

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 8:21 AM

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I tried to boot now but I guess Flitters computer needs to be on

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 9:08 AM

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No

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 9:09 AM

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weary lagoon I tried to boot now but I guess Flitters computer needs to be on

Any player should be able to start it up,

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Maybe if you connect through the text client it'll work

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 9:10 AM

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I hit connect and got a refused to connect error

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 9:11 AM

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Let me try

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IT kinda worked? I'm gettting items from Jay but the ocassional Eror: see ModLog for details

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I just need to find the folder

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 9:13 AM

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Oh sorry, apparently you have to open the actual game page in your browser to start the server?

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 9:20 AM

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No idea where this file is

clear summit Jun 26, 2023, 9:43 AM

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Oh yeah, Artiks' slingshot is locked behind one of my checks, which is locked behind the location which has to be unlocked by Ixrec, which is at...uh..."Rock Hive Entrance"

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I know nothing about HK

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 9:45 AM

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fs_fascinating how many slingshots does arti need, this is just gettin greedy smh

clear summit Jun 26, 2023, 9:47 AM

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RosaThink

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Again, I have zero idea about HK

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 9:49 AM

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fs_fascinating is that a request for me to get karlas ashes or

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because thats something you dont normally get cus its killing an npc

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 9:49 AM

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i have a slingshot. another one would just get me more ammo cap

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 9:49 AM

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ahhh

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 9:50 AM

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and lore tablet does nothing

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its just filler for more checks

clear summit Jun 26, 2023, 9:52 AM

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No no no

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I get Karla's Ashes for Chip from the chest

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And I think Ashes unlock more shop items? So it may be needed

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The order is Sender-Reciever-Item-Location

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 9:54 AM

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ah, the ashes arent needed, all my checks are in world not shops

clear summit Jun 26, 2023, 9:55 AM

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Nice

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 9:55 AM

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it wont be a bad thing to gwt but not a needed thing

clear summit Jun 26, 2023, 9:55 AM

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RoR2 randomization basically is like a few big chunk of locations unlocked by a single location check

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 9:55 AM

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snarfexplain though that does mean i need to mass murder my npcs at some point

clear summit Jun 26, 2023, 9:55 AM

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So it can be very annoying often

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 9:55 AM

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since apparently there ashes are checks

clear summit Jun 26, 2023, 9:56 AM

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Oh yeah that means ashes are also replaced by items quibble_sweat

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 9:56 AM

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thanks for magic

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whoeevr found that

clear summit Jun 26, 2023, 9:58 AM

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Fortunately it seems there aren't many significant items locked behind my game

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 10:00 AM

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@ancient harnessmassive geo for the gold gauntlets check

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 10:01 AM

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I got the magic

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How much geo? I feel like I didn't get it

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I put all my money in the bank so I'm still poor

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 10:02 AM

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thats all the info I get

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 10:02 AM

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Right

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I got the key to upgrade Sly's shop, ~~too bad I'm poor~~nvm I have relics

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 10:08 AM

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pog

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 10:08 AM

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YOO

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TIL about the Fluke Hermit

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 10:15 AM

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this is what im mostly stuck behind for now

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theres also Rutos letter which would open up a whole dungeon

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 10:22 AM

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Time for a shopping spree

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 10:24 AM

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CoolHat my one is in the area im gonna clear once i get home

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 10:25 AM

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ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 10:34 AM

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I don't know what this is.

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 10:34 AM

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completion percentage will now show on your map!

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 10:34 AM

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Nice

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 10:38 AM

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Alright, going to Burger King

clear summit Jun 26, 2023, 10:39 AM

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Enjoy some Sudoku

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 10:39 AM

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Damn, I died to Radiance

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 10:39 AM

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You have the void heart?

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 10:39 AM

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Yeah

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But I don't have shadow dash so he has an unavoidable attack

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wheeze

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 10:50 AM

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Normally finishing the game awards all your items to people, but I have made it so you manually need to do that, in case you want to keep playing.

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 10:50 AM

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i'll prob release mine once i finish base+both dlcs

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essentially all bosses

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which i need the tiny doll, bowl of vows and 4 lord ashes for fs_fascinating

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 10:52 AM

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Ill release when I beat Ganon (in a fantasy world where I dont finish last)

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 10:53 AM

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😤 its fine your beating yay currently

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until she logs on and 100% in 2 hours

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i believe in the yay any% mem manip warp

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 12:08 PM

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Hmm

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I wonder if you can set up archipelago so you play with yourself in multiple games instead of multiple people

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 12:28 PM

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i mean

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surely you just set it up the same with muiltiple aliases

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 12:28 PM

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I want to send flitter items to flitter as flitter

clear summit Jun 26, 2023, 12:29 PM

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lol, I guess obliterate is techincally a clear

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That means I could have 'cleared' a few hours ago

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I'll gonna keep playing until I can actually hit the last stage

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 12:29 PM

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Yeah, it's up to you how you finish the game!

clear summit Jun 26, 2023, 12:30 PM

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...I should press No, right?

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 12:30 PM

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Yeah!

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Whenever you want, you can use the text client to do !collect or !release

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Doing !collect takes your items back from any other world and allows you to keep playing. Doing !release takes items from your world back to other player worlds

clear summit Jun 26, 2023, 12:31 PM

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Yeah, that was my guess

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For now gonna play as if nothing happened

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It's a bit weird, the tracker says I have 1 shrine check left in Siren's call, but it keeps sending me to Sundered Grove, where I got every single check already.

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 12:35 PM

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I have no idea how explore mode works. Maybe it's just random?

clear summit Jun 26, 2023, 12:35 PM

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That check is the only check I have accessible

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If you have them unlocked it will weight the game to have a higher chance to go to one you have checks versus one you have already completed.

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I have been sent to Sundered Grove like 5 times in a row

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idk maybe I'm just extremely unlucky

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lol

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 12:47 PM

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midnight depot I want to send flitter items to flitter as flitter

theres an alias command that will probably change that, i dunno if it changes "login" or just message

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 12:47 PM

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Yeah

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Meanwhile I'm playing a solo randomizer while I wait for BK mode to clear

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Who would win, Zote or two Grimmchildren? https://i.imgur.com/OgWQ5DO.png

Imgur

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 12:55 PM

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you have a lot of hp

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 12:57 PM

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Yeah, this randomizer gave me all three blue mask charms at affordable cost

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 2:05 PM

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Alright I'm officially in BK mode

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 2:09 PM

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Did you beat the radiance or are you waiting for more abilities to make it possible?

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 2:11 PM

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I'm gonna 100%

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Yay looking good.

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 3:56 PM

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wow that was fast

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now that I'm done with TotK I'm gonna do a second session now

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I'm getting a lot of "error: see modlog for details"

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omg the messages are still going

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well apparently I have enough now to just buy left claw

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so no double jump, and no elevator keys cocothink

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guess I'll do crystal peak then, left claw unlocks the part of that I got blocked on

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Chip: do you want a Sorcerer Hood, a Partizan, or a Lothric's Holy Sword?

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shop run complete

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 4:19 PM

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Thanks

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 4:23 PM

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was yay ever able to start playing?

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turns out minion charms are really handy against these enemies that fill a whole hallway and are only vulnerable on one side when I can't slash both ways

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 4:27 PM

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You can see in the tracker that she has not

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 4:35 PM

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crystal guardian is not designed to be fought with halfslash and halfdash lol

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 4:36 PM

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You just need to attack it until it dies

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You don't need to move once

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 4:37 PM

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you mean just tank all the damage?

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 4:37 PM

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Yeah! It has very low HP in comparison with most bosses

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 4:40 PM

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charm cost randomization was a good idea, it's making me equip a bunch of things I'd never choose on a normal playthrough, like lifeblood and minions and sharp shadow

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 4:40 PM

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Yeah! I'm glad you like it

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 4:44 PM

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found one of your pale ores

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 4:44 PM

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any bow in sight?

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 4:44 PM

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not that I recall

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 4:45 PM

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Use hints to find your bow

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 4:45 PM

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i used my hints on the hookshot

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 4:45 PM

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the only shop item I remember seeing for you that I didn't buy is more bombchus

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 4:45 PM

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You should have 5 hints total

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 4:46 PM

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oooh minion spawning consumes soul, that's why I can't down spell this

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 4:46 PM

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i think its more fun if its a surprise

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 4:46 PM

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fresh hill oooh minion spawning consumes soul, that's why I can't down spell this

Only glowing womb minions eat souls

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 4:46 PM

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too bad I can't turn it off when I hit a spell terrain check

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 4:47 PM

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The only things left in my shops are "15 geo for X" or "lore" or "common item" or a handulf of bombs/arrows/rupees.

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I have 200 rupees for Artiks waiting but aside from that you can consider my shops empty

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 4:47 PM

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Yeah, we need a mod that allows you to turn glowing womb on or off.

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Would make it usable in many more situations

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 4:49 PM

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lol my crystal dash spot was just 15 geo for wcct

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 4:49 PM

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but I guess I could cheat for rutos letter

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 4:51 PM

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finally managed to do that down spell before the womb ate my soul

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 4:51 PM

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Nice work!

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 4:51 PM

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hopefully "desert pyromancer hood" is useful

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 4:51 PM

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there we go

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the client will stop me if I try to use too many hints right

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 4:52 PM

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hm, I think I did everything in greenpath I could yesterday

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 4:52 PM

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Yes

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The client will say you ran out of budget

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 4:52 PM

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I have no idea where the seal is in there

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 4:52 PM

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Hallownest seal in greenpath is the one that you need left dash to get

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 4:52 PM

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ah

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 4:52 PM

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That's probably the seal that you need crystal dash left or double jump for

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 4:52 PM

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Yeah

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 4:52 PM

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I don't think just left dash does it

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Also Isma's tear will do it

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 4:52 PM

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It's in the long corridor area near the center, just next to a pit of acid

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 4:53 PM

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ixrec has ismas tear

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Nice, someone got me double magic

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 4:53 PM

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ok when I'm done with peak I'll try for that

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where the heck is my shade

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 4:53 PM

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I got you both magics, that was pretty wild

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But my greatest achievement for sure is half-damage

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 4:54 PM

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You can look in the map for your shade

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 4:54 PM

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what I mean is it's not where my map says it is

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ok there it is

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 4:55 PM

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I have 11 heart containers and half damage but only 2/10 dungeons omegalul

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 4:55 PM

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yeah ok I've done everything I can do in crystal peak without double jump

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 4:55 PM

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Yay's start is gonna be even more wild

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I wonder how long it will take for her to stop holding stuff above her head

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 4:56 PM

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made a brief attempt at pogo skipping one double jump but that is definitely not happening

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 4:57 PM

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Pogo skipping the pickaxe is one of the more difficult pogo skips

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 4:57 PM

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There's not much you can do up there without crystal dash or double jump anyway

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Maybe one rock

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Can't even do the whispering root

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 4:57 PM

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Six

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There are two hidden rooms there with a bunch of stuff

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 4:58 PM

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now the question is where in greepath is the thing I couldn't get before

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 4:58 PM

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You're not getting those

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You can use pogo to get in but you can't get to the top path.

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 4:59 PM

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You can pogo to the top path

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As long as you have right dash

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 4:59 PM

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Luring a crystal fly?

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Talk about misery

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:03 PM

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right, No Eyes isn't happening without the lantern

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Fog Canyon!

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this is not what Artiks wanted but it's where I ended up

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if I find a bench I'll warp back to Greenpath lol

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:04 PM

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Fog canyon can be fun when you have limited mobility

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It's also fun because you can't get the map unless you have shadow dash or isma's tear

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:04 PM

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...and cornifer is locked behind shadow dash

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wait, or?

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:05 PM

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There's a secret entrance to fog canyon from the grub acid room in forgotten crossroads

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:05 PM

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ok, no idea what room that is

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and now I'm in queen's garden izzynothoughtsheadempty

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 5:07 PM

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no rush im not playing today (probably)

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 5:07 PM

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There's also the left path from Leg Eater

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:09 PM

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and I'm back in fog canyon

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well this is definitely recreating the experience of having no idea what I'm doing in HK

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:09 PM

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This room https://i.imgur.com/anXPADg.png

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fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:09 PM

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don't think I've been there

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no more spoilers for now I clearly have a lot of exploring to do

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:10 PM

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Oh it's west from the hot spring bench

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:10 PM

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oh the one I couldn't get to last time

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:10 PM

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You can get there from the start, but you can only get under that area with isma's tear or right crystal heart

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:11 PM

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oh god mosquito cage match on two masks

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well that death was inevitable

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all my brainpower is on mental mapping atm until I get more cornifers

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:13 PM

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Do you want any help finding the cornifers?

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:13 PM

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not yet, I've barely started looking

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I just cleaned crystal peak, but all of QG and FC and half of GP still require checking

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not to mention a few stag stations I haven't used

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:15 PM

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'eyyy, Chip's playing!

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:15 PM

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oh right, I forgot to ping earlier

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:15 PM

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I love charm notches

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 5:15 PM

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I hvae one of yours behind one of Mushroom Guy's location

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:15 PM

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@fierce vale : do you want a Sorcerer Hood, a Partizan, or a Lothric's Holy Sword?

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:16 PM

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I need that immediately

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 5:16 PM

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nah i'm good

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 5:16 PM

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Also I still need like 12 grubs before Chip can even get my lantern, so I'm ordering the family combo at BK

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:16 PM

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kk

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 5:16 PM

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midnight depot I need that immediately

Get me the mushroom charm

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:17 PM

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wow my last bench was all the way back in greenpath

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:17 PM

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Where's your mushroom charm?

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:17 PM

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but the whole shade system basically requires that I retrace all my steps anyway

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:18 PM

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fresh hill but the whole shade system basically requires that I retrace all my steps anyway

You could benchwarp instead of dying. It's the same inconvenience but you don't have to retrace your steps

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:18 PM

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"instead of dying" he says rdwut

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:19 PM

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Yeah just press start when you reach two HP and leave

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:20 PM

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I guess at that point it would've been the safer option

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but I just got my shade and did the mosquito arena while taking only one hit now that I'm in the zone

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the reality of hard games is if I'm focused enough to realize I'm going to die, I'm also focused enough to not die in the first place

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wow all that for 15 geo

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:21 PM

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That makes sense

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:23 PM

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ok I think those half dozen rooms are all I can do of queen gardens without double jump

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I don't need to use Millibelle to get any items right

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 5:25 PM

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No

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:26 PM

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She gives you money if you have the simple key to get to the hot spring

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But no items

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:26 PM

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and there's fog canyon / queen's station

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cocothink

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gee I dunno

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 5:27 PM

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I could use 15 geo...

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:27 PM

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another left dash block

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oh hey fungal wastes

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this must be the weirdest way to end up there

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 5:27 PM

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I ended up buying a bunch of those so I'd stop checking what they are every time I warp to stag stations

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:27 PM

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but since there was a bench here I'm going to do more greenpath before fungal

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:27 PM

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Yeah

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 5:27 PM

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But at that point I didn't need money

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:27 PM

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yeah, if I ever have that much money I'll start doing that

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but I don't expect that to happen for me

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I do think the randomizer would be better if it just didn't have these, or if all of these were replaced by simply giving the player 15 geo

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 5:28 PM

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Pretty sure you have like all the seals and relics tho rdsnrk

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:28 PM

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oh good point

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well yes after I finish checking greenpath for artik's thing my priority is getting to city of tears

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that's through fungal, right?

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 5:29 PM

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From queen station you go up through fog canyon like twice and end up in Greenpath

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The city, through fungal

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:29 PM

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I just did the reverse of that yes

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 5:29 PM

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Unless you come in from behind through resting grounds

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:30 PM

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I mean I found queen's station by doing the reverse of that, now I just bench warped of course

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I did explore resting grounds but couldn't- wait I have down spell now

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:30 PM

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The city can be reached through the elevators in resting grounds and forgotten crossroads, through water in Kingdom's Edge, through deepnest, or the normal way through fungal wastes

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:30 PM

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I don't think I've received a single elevator key?

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:31 PM

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Are elevators locked for you at all?

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:31 PM

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yes

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:31 PM

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Oh okay

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:31 PM

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I've been to the elevator at the bottom of crossroads

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:31 PM

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There's one elevator pass that lets you go through all big elevators

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:31 PM

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that's when one of you had to tell me elevators are lockekd now

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 5:31 PM

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You'd never find yourself in Kingdom's Edge without going through King's Station. The only other reasoneable way into City is if you get Hidden Station and then you climb your way up. That would be a pretty unique first-entry

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:32 PM

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I believe I do have that stag station but without a map I would not willingly choose it lol

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like I said I have a LOT of exploration to do

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:32 PM

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The first time I got to Kingdom's Edge was through deepnest with a tram pass

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 5:32 PM

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Ah, that's fair

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I always forget about bottom tram

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:33 PM

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super moss charger has taught me that minions can throw off my jump timing by pausing the boss briefly

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:34 PM

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Yeah!

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:35 PM

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salubra's blessing lol

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:35 PM

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There's a mod that makes her shut up but still give you soul

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:35 PM

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yet another skulltula for yay

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greenpath map says I'm on yet another route into queen gardens

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:36 PM

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Oh you're on pogo town

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You can't get to Queen's Garden from here

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:36 PM

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I would be without isma's tear

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:36 PM

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There's a one-way door at the end

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:37 PM

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and another heart container for yay

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Wcct's simple key!

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:37 PM

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Nice

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:37 PM

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oh I see this room has two one-ways, I need to find it from both sides before it works

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ok I think that's all I can do down here, back to upper greenpath

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 5:39 PM

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It's nice that this run reduces the simple keys you care about from 4 to 2

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:39 PM

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Jiji's and the waterways

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:39 PM

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I don't remember any of the simple keys besides jiji's which I'm not spending mine on

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:40 PM

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Jiji has like 16 checks

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:41 PM

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what now

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:41 PM

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She's a shop now

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:41 PM

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aaaaargh

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how would I have ever known that

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:41 PM

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Well you'd have to use the hint system or I could tell you

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 5:41 PM

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Jiji, Waterways, Pleasure House, Godseeker

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Only Waterways and Pleasure House has checks

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:42 PM

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Godseeker is optional. Pleasure house has like four checks.

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:42 PM

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wait does jiji have checks or not

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:42 PM

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It does for you

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The checks in order of priority are the waterways, jiji, pleasure house. The waterways has more checks behind it AND allows you to buy rancid eggs from Tuk

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:47 PM

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oh that's why the egg checks are so high

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I forgot buying eggs was a thing

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:48 PM

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You should be able to finish the game without buying any from Tuk

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But it helps a lot!

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:50 PM

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ok, what room is the greenpath seal in? I'm not finding it

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 5:50 PM

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Huh, I may have encountered a bug. The fountain took 3000 geo twice, one to drop the item and then it prompeted me again on pick up for 6000 total

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:51 PM

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https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/hollowknight/images/4/47/Greenpath_Map.png/revision/latest?cb=20220208151959

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It's in the center

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 5:51 PM

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I wonder if you got 100 essence twice from me

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:51 PM

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I only got it once

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 5:52 PM

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Money well spent rdsnrk

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:54 PM

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aw, the hatchlings lie down too

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:54 PM

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Yeah! It's really cute

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Grimmchild, hatchlings and weaverlings all do it

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:54 PM

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I'm really missing left dash

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not even for getting past stuff, it's just so much slower going anywhere left than right

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anyway that's taken care of

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and while I'm here, one of you did send me left crystal dash

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:56 PM

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Where's your left dash?

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:56 PM

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no idda

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dang, this room is hard blocked on left dash, careful jumping is not enough

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all right, time for FW and hopefully CoT finally

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:58 PM

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I know my right dash is in your rancid egg shop

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(It's the 12th item)

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 5:58 PM

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ok, if I find that then it'll be time for a shop run including jiji

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instant cornifer thank god

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 5:59 PM

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Yeah, you got through fungal wastes the easy way

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I somehow have the grimm troupe in my world?

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 6:01 PM

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magipog ty for favour ring

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:01 PM

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I don't even have the dreamnail

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You're welcome!

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:02 PM

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I've had the dreamnail forever and nothing to do with it lol

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:02 PM

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Well you could summon the grimm troupe

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:03 PM

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whenever I get to that spot sure

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everything DN does is for places I haven't been yet

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:03 PM

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Oh! I have Grimmchild now

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And it's because Chip finally found him

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 6:04 PM

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One "charm" from Grimm and possible 3 checks from Divine if you have the fragiles

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They're not thousands of geo, which is good

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:04 PM

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Grimmchild is also 12 checks

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one for each flame

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 6:04 PM

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If you get the charm yeah

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:04 PM

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I have the flames randomized

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:05 PM

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"jay's boss item" is that useful?

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:05 PM

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Yes.

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Boss items are very good. Less good than legendary items but nice

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Barely got him https://i.imgur.com/n1FrjKj.png

Imgur

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:08 PM

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midnight depot This room https://i.imgur.com/anXPADg.png

I just accidentally discovered this room by climbing up out of FW

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:09 PM

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Nice

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If you can reach that room you can reach cornifer

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:12 PM

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TIL minions are a bad idea in fog canyon

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 6:13 PM

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wheeze

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:13 PM

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Yeah, they'll fuck you up unless you can dodge jellyfish homing rockets on command

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:14 PM

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confirmed the normal path down from crossroads to fog canyon is still inaccessible to me

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:14 PM

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It should not be

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:15 PM

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it really needs left dash or double jump

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:15 PM

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Oh, I must be imagining it wrong then

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Oh yeah, you must be talking about the path from crossroads to fungal wastes

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:16 PM

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yeah the reason I checked was we asked this question before and I wasn't sure if the walls were shaped in a way that'd allow crystal dashing over, but they aren't

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...right, FW, sorry

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it's all a blur

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:16 PM

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What you can do is go to fog canyon instead

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:16 PM

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already did

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canyon cornifer is my immediate goal, and my shade's there anyway

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:16 PM

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And from there there's an Isma's tear path to fungal wastes and the leg eater bench

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Right above where you are

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:17 PM

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I think you're talking about the same path I've been up and down like ten times already lol

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:17 PM

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Yeah

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Fun fact https://i.imgur.com/gTz2tJq.png

Imgur

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This little area here has an invisible wall disallowing you from crystal dash skipping

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You NEED isma's tear

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:18 PM

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oh no, is cornifer unreachable without double jump

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:19 PM

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He should be fine but you might need to pogo or mantis claw

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:19 PM

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yeah I'm about to try that

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:19 PM

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Let's look at the logic

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https://i.imgur.com/H5FZf7w.png

Imgur

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You definitely need left dash

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:20 PM

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confirmed that pogoing is not enough here

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I hope that old sorcerer coat was worth headbutting explosives lol

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I know wcct doesn't need lore but whispering roots are fun

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found fragile charm guy

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went ahead and cleaned out that shop

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:26 PM

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Nice!

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:26 PM

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but I don't think that's the guy you wanted me to find

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:27 PM

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Turns out you can reach this right crystal dash area by pogos only

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Well leg eater has 16 checks like any other shop

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:27 PM

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I mean I thought you were after a specific item I could get down here

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but all he had for you was a mask shard

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 6:28 PM

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Yeah you can pogo on those bugs, and Deepnest's

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Only the vines are not pogo

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And acid, if you count that

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But spikes, bug-pit and vines are in the same group of hazzard for me

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:29 PM

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fresh hill I mean I thought you were after a specific item I could get down here

From you, I want Grubfather 8, Jiji 12, Iselda 12, and the Queen's Garden top grub.

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:29 PM

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Iselda... was she the pale flower lady?

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:29 PM

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Cornifer's wife

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:30 PM

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oh

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ok that must be one of the items with a huge grub/charm lock

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:30 PM

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36 charms for you

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It's not super important, because only two checks are locked behind it

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Grubfather_8 should be pretty doable though

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 6:32 PM

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Oh shit, whoever got me King's Brand, thanks

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:32 PM

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Gonna check out the Abyss?

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 6:33 PM

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A good number of checks down there

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:33 PM

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The 15 blue mask room in the randomizer got changed so it's easier

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Now it stays open after you open it once

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 6:33 PM

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I can't get that, that's the only thing

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:33 PM

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elder hu down

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maybe I had bad rng but he wasted a LOT of time on the attack where he's not around for me to hit him

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:34 PM

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Elder Hu is really annoying for that reason

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:34 PM

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15 geo for wcct rdforreal

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:35 PM

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If we ever play this again, the best way to minimize how many 15 geo checks there are is to make shops have zero items

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:35 PM

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not to exclude random geo rocks?

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:35 PM

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Since that will mean all items that are normally found in shops are now in the world replacing random geo rocks

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The way shops work is for each item that already exists in the shop, it gets placed randomly in the world, and for each EXTRA item the randomizer adds, the randomizer also adds a random geo check

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Ooh, a zero cost fragile heart

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Very handy. Thanks!

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 6:37 PM

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Omg, doing the section to Shadow Dash when I already have Void Heart feels so weird

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No tendrils

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And the lighthouse shades are non-aggro of course

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I don't even need to light it up, but I will

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:38 PM

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it's about time

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:38 PM

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You get literally nothing from doing that

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:38 PM

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ppenk

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:39 PM

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TIL you need shadow dash to get through the abyss https://i.imgur.com/PYyU83q.png

Imgur

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:40 PM

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this lore tablet has... lore for flitter

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:41 PM

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I love lore, thank you

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 6:41 PM

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Oh, I need shadow dash

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:41 PM

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minions back on

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:42 PM

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Divine laid an egg https://i.imgur.com/Eg6UTf1.png

Imgur

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 6:43 PM

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I wonder where my shadow cloak is

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Probably Yay has it

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:44 PM

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half cost Soul Eater goes very well with minions

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:44 PM

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Yeah, soul eater is very nice

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I tried to hint for the shadow cloak but I actually don't know what it's supposed to be called

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:45 PM

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oh no I only have enough geo for one nail upgrade

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time to find the vendor

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oh yeah I still can't swim

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water is toxic but acid is nice

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 6:45 PM

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lmao

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:46 PM

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key spent to open waterways

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:47 PM

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From there you can buy endless rancid eggs from Tuk

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:47 PM

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gee thanks ppenk

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oh no is his shop locked

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 6:48 PM

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Talk to him

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:49 PM

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I did, he doesn't shop down here

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:49 PM

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His shop is not locked, but you have to approach it from above

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:49 PM

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yeah just found the way in

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I was worried a left dash or double jump would block it but nope

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here goes nothing

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:50 PM

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There's a mod that sells all his stuff at once

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:50 PM

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lol

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:50 PM

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While you're in the area, you could try the pogo to Watcher's archive https://i.imgur.com/RkQwSd3.png

Imgur

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You have to pogo on one of the two weird objects here and then mantis claw above

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 6:51 PM

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I did the Stag Station skip today for the first time ever, that was fun

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:52 PM

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The one in howling cliff with a vengefly pogo?

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 6:52 PM

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Yeah

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:52 PM

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That one's silly

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 6:52 PM

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I always thought that was much higher

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I lured in 3 vengeflies but I only needed one

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:53 PM

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I didn't realize he had this much unique dialogue for the artifacts

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 6:54 PM

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He says something different for all of them, even duplicates

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:54 PM

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he repeated himself once

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and we're done

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 6:54 PM

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Maybe not the Journals. But for sure all the King Idols and Eggs

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 6:55 PM

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Now go lose all that money

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 6:57 PM

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yep, that's all I can access in the area just above Lemm

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time for shopping

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:00 PM

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If you get too many nailsmith upgrades you can lose access to some pogo spots or make them harder because enemies die instantly

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But it's not a big deal because you should not need any

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:00 PM

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indeed I would much rather have a nail that does non-chip damage

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ah right, the upgrade after this requires three ore, I now have "only" two

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:02 PM

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It's zero, one, two and three

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:02 PM

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flitter, how badly do you want another rancid egg? rdsnrk

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:03 PM

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Not if it's a hassle for you

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But some of my stuff is locked behind them

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:05 PM

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nope, just geo

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better it go to this than get lost to spikes

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now jiji

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oh a lot of these are pure geo checks

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 7:06 PM

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CoolHat

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:06 PM

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-2889 geo ponee

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 7:06 PM

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But I already has dash

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:07 PM

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well this feels worth it

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 7:07 PM

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Unless

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Ah. Shadow dash

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:07 PM

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too bad jiji and grubfather effectively force you to "buy" the geo throwaways

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:08 PM

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I think my grubfather shop needs rancid eggs?

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:08 PM

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I need 11 rancid eggs to get flitter's right dash

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:08 PM

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Well you have the waterways, right?

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:08 PM

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I do

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:08 PM

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You can get to Tuk almost immediately by heading right then up

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Put the defender's crest on for one free egg from Tuk

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:09 PM

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gtk

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my Sly and Iselda Flitter items have super high charm and grub locks

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:10 PM

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I need like 20 more rancid eggs to get Wcctnoam's elegant key https://i.imgur.com/wJ7TVsr.png

Imgur

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:10 PM

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gah I forgot grubfather

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:11 PM

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And I REALLY want this one https://i.imgur.com/KgkeolB.png

Imgur

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If you want the waterways map, it's all the way left

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:14 PM

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midnight depot You can get to Tuk almost immediately by heading right then up

appears to be blocked on left dash/double

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:14 PM

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You should be able to get to Tuk by pogoing on the pufferfish thingers

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It's behind a secret wall in the top right

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:15 PM

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I'm sure it's theoretically possible but they do not start in good enough positions for me to want to invest that much time into it

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:16 PM

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You sure you're not confused? https://i.imgur.com/cfVk6hq.png

Imgur

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 7:17 PM

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fs_fascinating they were in fact good drops

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:17 PM

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Charm notches are nice

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:18 PM

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I am not ready for dung defender lol

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:19 PM

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The easiest way to handle him for you is probably soul eater and hugging the walls where he can't hit you very well

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:19 PM

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nah I'll fight normally

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I just need a bench and/or map before I can get to him with enough health to make a real fight

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:20 PM

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The best way to get to the bench is left from the waterways entrance

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 7:20 PM

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fs_fascinating that also looks important

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:20 PM

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No it's just money

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:20 PM

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that's a vendor treasure yeah

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 7:20 PM

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moneys also important

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:21 PM

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ah, this room would've been a softlock without bench warp

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:22 PM

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Navigating the waterways without swim is very tricky

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 7:22 PM

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Holy hell, a notch for me. That's my first one all game

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:22 PM

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I am also on five notches

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 7:23 PM

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time to save the zora princess

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:23 PM

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11 notches

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 7:23 PM

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dumbtiktok greenpath_stag got for flitter

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 7:23 PM

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holy crap the hookshot

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holy crap magic beans

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:23 PM

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Nice work

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Greenpath stag is nice in principle but I already cleared all of greenpath

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 7:26 PM

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awwyeah another yay skulltula

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we will get them all

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:27 PM

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I think I've ended up going for flukemarm

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oh wait no there's a swim gate here

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:27 PM

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It's possible to get to Flukemarm without swimming but it's very difficult. If you're there you may want to go to the junk pit instead

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(You need left crystal dash)

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 7:29 PM

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4 more grubs for Small Doll

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:29 PM

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yeah avoiding these big worms is not happening without both dash directions

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:29 PM

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You can kill them

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:30 PM

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not quickly enough

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if I had fireball maybe

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:31 PM

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What I mean is by ambushing them from above or below

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:31 PM

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eh, it's not that important

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 7:31 PM

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midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:31 PM

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Ooh

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You can abuse benchwarping to give flowers to everyone

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 7:32 PM

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Oh that doesn't kill it?

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:32 PM

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midnight depot You sure you're not confused? https://i.imgur.com/cfVk6hq.png

finally checked, this is not where they spawned for me

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:32 PM

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Does not

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Oh yeah, sorry, to clarify. The entrance is top right, so you don't need to dash left

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:33 PM

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oh I see, there are no cracks there until I hit it once

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:33 PM

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I think you're meant to find it when it gets cracked because the exploding bat hits it

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:33 PM

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ah yes, the bat I evaded by jumping into a pufferfish and then falling into perfectly clean water

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:34 PM

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Water allergy is a real thing

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquagenic_urticaria

Aquagenic urticaria

Aquagenic urticaria, also known as water allergy and water urticaria, is a rare form of physical urticaria in which hives develop on the skin after contact with water, regardless of its temperature. The condition typically results from contact with water of any type, temperature or additive.

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 7:35 PM

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Fuck your lore.

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:35 PM

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So rude

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Oro can eat a dick

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 7:35 PM

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Least deserving of a flower

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And probably the hardest trip

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:36 PM

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I'm guessing Tuk also has a bulk buy mod

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 7:36 PM

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Well, from the Tomb to Oro would be worse. But from Grey Mourner it would still be the worst of those

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 7:36 PM

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fs_fascinating anyway, i'm as far as i can get on the mainline, without going into the dlc

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:36 PM

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The QoL mod does not do bulk buys for Tuk, but maybe another mod does

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 7:36 PM

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~~which i might do, but doing the dlc underleveled with a build i'm bad with idk~~

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 7:37 PM

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Same. I have nothing I can do without lantern, which needs 4 grubs for me, or tram pass to get to the hive

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 7:37 PM

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i need basin of vows or tiny doll

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:37 PM

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fierce vale <:fs_fascinating:940285645190987917> anyway, i'm as far as i can get on the main...

I think if we get stuck for a couple of days and yay899 does not show up, we might have to manually release her items instead.

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:37 PM

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how many rancid eggs do you think I need?

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:38 PM

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You will need ~50 rancid eggs total, but I don't know how many you got from other sources

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Do you know where your basin of vows is, Chip?

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:38 PM

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after lots of buying I'm now at 23

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guess I'll keep going

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 7:38 PM

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i do, its in ixrecs world

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grub-kings station

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:38 PM

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Oh!

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:38 PM

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I already have more sellable treasures so when I need geo again I should be fine

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 7:39 PM

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tiny doll is 27 grubs from wcct

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:39 PM

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remind me where king's station is?

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:39 PM

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He needs swim to get that

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 7:39 PM

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which is a funny catch 22

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:39 PM

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City of Tears

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This is the King's Station Grub https://i.imgur.com/nm6LDs4.png

Imgur

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:39 PM

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ok, I think I've already gone as far as CoT will allow, ran into a bunch of locked doors both up and right

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:40 PM

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Where's Ixrec's swim?

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Oh, it's in a fun place

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 7:42 PM

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dumbtiktok anyway, time to try and fail snowfields

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:42 PM

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Snowfields underleveled is very annoying

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Maybe you could grind for souls instead?

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I would love to watch if you could stream it

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:43 PM

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all right, that's 40 rancid eggs purchased, time for a shop run

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:43 PM

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Good luck

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 7:45 PM

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HatPensive alas i'm watching things in another server whilst playing

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:45 PM

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Okay

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:45 PM

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hahahaha, Jiji wants 2 eggs and 577 geo for your dash, and I have 564 geo

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:46 PM

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I could give you the rest but I need rancid eggs https://i.imgur.com/g54AvLy.png

Imgur

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:46 PM

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and there's your right dash

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:46 PM

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Ooh, thanks!

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:46 PM

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guess I'll go sell treasure before checking the other shops

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:46 PM

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I wonder what the dash unlocks for me

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 7:46 PM

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Crystal Peak presses.

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:47 PM

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oh right, I forgot you told me to equip this for Tuk rdsnrk

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 7:48 PM

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02think

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:48 PM

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Leg Eater also gives you a discount if you have Defender's Crest on

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Very rude of him

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:48 PM

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goddammit discord

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:48 PM

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I did notice you had connection issues

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Dropped from Steam a couple of times

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Oh yeah, I could probably pogo the spike tunnel in crystal peaks now that I have both dash directions

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:51 PM

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I have 27 charms, and Flitter's arcane egg requires 37

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iirc that's another treasure so probably won't happen lol

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:51 PM

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Arcane egg is useful to me because I use a mod that adds a charm that uses unsold treasure

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But it's not important

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:52 PM

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@ancient harness do you need Grimmchild?

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:52 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/zG92d7P.png Apparently you can't just dash. You need fireball skips and screams and a lot of bullshit https://i.imgur.com/zG92d7P.png

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ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 7:52 PM

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I don't need it but it would be a few checks

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I don't think I hold any game hostage at this point

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:52 PM

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I'll check grubfather and salubra first

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:54 PM

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Ah, this is why https://i.imgur.com/RDquXFA.png

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Need wings to pogo up

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:54 PM

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Artiks was asking about bows, right?

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 7:55 PM

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Yeah I do need the bow

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Heres the only thing I got in Jabu Jabus belly

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other than the fire medallion

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:56 PM

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unfortunately that's a super high check for me, to the point that I dunno if I'll get to it

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 7:56 PM

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bow is progressive so theres 3

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they turn into larger quivers when you get one bow

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:56 PM

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ah

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:56 PM

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Yeah, you'll finish the game first, so it's another bow that Artiks needs

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 7:57 PM

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all right, wcct gets grimmchild after all

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wow, I'm still at only 29%

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feels like a lot more than that

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 7:59 PM

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going to the ice cavern for a song

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 7:59 PM

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Ice cavern is fun

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 7:59 PM

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if I get song of storm the well has A LOT of checks including ixrecs double jump

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:00 PM

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fresh hill wow, I'm still at only 29%

Yeah, having to go through parts of the map multiple times makes it feel a lot longer!

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 8:00 PM

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Shouldn't it say "39 grubs"

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:00 PM

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this is probably my most wanted item atm

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can Artiks even get to the Gerudo stuff atm?

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 8:01 PM

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I don't think Artiks has a single GTG key

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 8:01 PM

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im not playing keysanity

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:01 PM

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I made it so grubfather can ask for multiple currencies

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 8:01 PM

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all the keys are in there

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:01 PM

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At 50%

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 8:01 PM

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I dont remember if you need hookshot or longshot to get to gerudo

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 8:02 PM

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Right

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Longshot or Epona

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:03 PM

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now I'm imagining OoT Link doing the item get animation and it's just a tiny Epona spinning around

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back to swimming in fungal wastes acid

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:05 PM

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Dammit, I need mantis claws to get to Cornifer https://i.imgur.com/1fs3Ysi.png

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fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:05 PM

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feel my pain! izzymwahaha

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:05 PM

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But what if I could pogo on a mantis instead?

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:05 PM

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...voluntarily experience additional pain?

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:06 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/wXHNJoW.png

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No good. I still need mantis claw to get up https://i.imgur.com/QQ6WL8E.png

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fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:08 PM

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izzygooglyeyes

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:09 PM

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Nice work!

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 8:09 PM

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Lol

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:09 PM

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I was hoping you'd find it

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Now you can get to Kingdom's Edge

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 8:09 PM

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Isma's Tear requirement to learn how to swim wheeze

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:10 PM

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I think I could've technically done that since I have both claws and right dash, but yeah I just swam to swim

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 8:10 PM

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midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:10 PM

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You don't strictly need Isma's tear for that room, but it's much harder without

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Ooh, thanks

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I finally feel whole again

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I only need upslash

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:10 PM

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that's normally a charm, right?

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:10 PM

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Spore shroom normally

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Spore shroom unlocks maybe ten checks

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:10 PM

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wtf, why is my city of tears gate sealed up again

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:11 PM

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The gate only opens once

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Once you pass through it, it closes permanently

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Use benchwarping to get back in

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:11 PM

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abflat

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no I've been back and forth several times, I've even posted screenshots demonstrating that lol

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I was hoping to do less backtracking by picking a bench closer to lower FW

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:12 PM

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Oh uh

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If you have mantis claw there's a gate bypass

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 8:12 PM

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On the way out, not the way in

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:12 PM

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nope, the cavern above requires left dash or double jump

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just like everything else

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:12 PM

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Okay

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:13 PM

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anyway I'm already back down there

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found 3 of my own mask shards

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chip, is a "Lightning Stake" good?

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:16 PM

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High damage situational spell

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:16 PM

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shortcut to queen's station open so now I do have a close bench

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:16 PM

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Not great

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Yo, I found Wcctnoam's Dreamgate

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One of the deepnest checks that I thought required mantis claw did not

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 8:18 PM

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got Eponas song so thats one Gerudo entry

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:18 PM

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would you like 5 bombs?

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 8:18 PM

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im always gonna be bomb capped

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:18 PM

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then I'll leave this root alone for now

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:19 PM

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I want this https://i.imgur.com/AmXKQEV.png

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But I need mantis claw

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:20 PM

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I've finally reached the mantis village, after having both claws for many hours

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:20 PM

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Oh, do you have left crystal dash?

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:20 PM

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only left

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:20 PM

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Before you fight mantis lords, hang to the right wall and then crystal dash to the left for a blue mask boost

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(I made sure to make it so none of the blue mask spots are randomized so you can get them reliably)

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 8:22 PM

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fs_fascinating i am trying to do champion gravetender at level 42 in a build i'm bad at

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dumbtiktok only like 50 ish levels below what i'm meant to be

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:23 PM

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You should try a build you're good at

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:23 PM

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did you just get my elevator pass

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:23 PM

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Yes!

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It was in deepnest

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:24 PM

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I only had 46 essence to give abflat

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:24 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/12eazVj.png

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fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:25 PM

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yet another platforming bit blocked on ld/dj

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:26 PM

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Now that I have the dream nail I can fight the ultimate boss

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https://i.imgur.com/gl2SIcu.png

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It's funny how gorb is supposedly very smart but uses very simple repetitive vocabulary https://i.imgur.com/AeZquO8.png

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fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:27 PM

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I forgot about this asshole sweetiegrump

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:28 PM

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Oh yeah

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There's absolutely no way to cheese him as far as I'm aware

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:28 PM

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maaaaaybe if I had crystal dash right and remembered exactly where he was

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but I do not

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 8:28 PM

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Yah, I went in with up-spell and it did nothing

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:29 PM

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He closes the door instantly no matter what you do

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:29 PM

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oh no, are mantis lords also ld/dj locked for me

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nope I can spike pogo

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:29 PM

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It's tricky but you can spike pogo to mantis lords and need no other abilities

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 8:30 PM

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yeah im pretty cool

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:30 PM

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I didn't find a blue mask boost on the left

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:32 PM

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It's top left behind a breakable wall above the deepnest entrance that closes

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:32 PM

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very scuffed mantis lords but still first try

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:32 PM

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You can also access it with left claw and left dash

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:32 PM

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oh there

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yeah I'm still looking for some kind of visual indicator of breakable stuff

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since I refuse to pixel hunt lol

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:33 PM

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weary lagoon

You should make Link less pixelated through the emulator settings

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:33 PM

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fresh hill since I refuse to pixel hunt lol

You can turn on additional vanilla pins https://i.imgur.com/lhxbebv.png

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weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 8:35 PM

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the hell

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I got the membership card after beating 1 carpenter

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its like 4-5 in vanilla..

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saving not beating

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:36 PM

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Oh maybe it's a random check?

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Does saving one carpenter give you a random check?

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Link must have the Gerudo Membership Card and also rescue all of the Carpenters that have been captured. If the Gerudo Membership Card is shuffled, then only the card is needed and the Carpenters do not need to be rescued to access the area.```

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 8:36 PM

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these are the only 2 checks in the tracker

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:37 PM

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ok that's everything I can do in mantis village, and probably fungal wastes as a whole

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fog canyon imo is not worth revisiting until I have double jump to reach cornifer

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so deepnest might be next

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:38 PM

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'eyyy, yay899 is playing!

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:39 PM

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omg I found fireball in deepnest

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 8:40 PM

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i could start gerudo training ground but idk how far I can get

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:40 PM

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Gerudo Training Ground Near Scarecrow Chest

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You need that one for Ixrec

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 8:41 PM

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im immediatelly seeing a bow target ICANT

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:42 PM

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did we ever check who can get artik's bow

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 8:43 PM

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you had one of them

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 8:43 PM

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awwyeah i'm godlike

sage dawn Jun 26, 2023, 8:43 PM

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Sorry for checking in so late. You all have been busy

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 8:43 PM

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havent used a hint ill get it when i get it

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:43 PM

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I know, it's not attainable for me

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 8:43 PM

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it was not worth in the slightest

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:43 PM

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wow 50 tokens

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:43 PM

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The fight is fun after you kill the stupid guy and start the actual fight

sage dawn Jun 26, 2023, 8:44 PM

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@weary lagoon How do you patch the ROM? Double clicking the patch file doesn't open anything to patch?

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I did randomize skull tokens so unlike Artiks they could be in other games

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 8:44 PM

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oh I did this like a week ago

sage dawn Jun 26, 2023, 8:44 PM

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Didn't expect to have 50 before I even started though

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:44 PM

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yeah we found dozens of your skull tokens

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I feel like I got 5-6 myself

sage dawn Jun 26, 2023, 8:45 PM

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I mean there are a 100 of them lol

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 8:45 PM

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im pretty sure I double clicked and it opened both the client and bizhawk and patched

sage dawn Jun 26, 2023, 8:45 PM

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I see

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:45 PM

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You gotta have the Archipelago Ocarina of Time client installed

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 8:45 PM

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Yay starting the game with a full inventory

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Will you stream? It will be hilarious

sage dawn Jun 26, 2023, 8:45 PM

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Still missing boss keys so I'm not in go mode yet lol

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Sure

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:47 PM

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Oh now that I have dream nail I should finally be able to fight no eyes

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:47 PM

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omg I walked right past cornifer and went in loops for ten minutes

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omg cornifer found a bench already

clear summit Jun 26, 2023, 8:48 PM

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Oh I got another map that I can check

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:49 PM

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Yeah

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:49 PM

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should I be able to do something in this room?

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I feel like I've forgotten something important

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 8:49 PM

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No

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:49 PM

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Yes but not from this direction

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 8:49 PM

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Same answer

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:49 PM

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ok

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:49 PM

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Go down to the hot spring in deep nest then left then up

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 8:50 PM

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Really wish I knew vanilla GTG ICANT

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anyone know how to open this door?

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 8:50 PM

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From the other side

sage dawn Jun 26, 2023, 8:51 PM

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Oh there's a invisible wall you need to hookshot through above the fake door

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:51 PM

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I have no memory whatsoever of this hot spring but I'll take it

sage dawn Jun 26, 2023, 8:51 PM

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That room is really important

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 8:51 PM

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nice nice I dont have eye of truth

sage dawn Jun 26, 2023, 8:51 PM

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It has four checks

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You can do it blind

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:51 PM

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I didn't know Zelda invented Dark Souls

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 8:51 PM

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yes you did lol

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 8:51 PM

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Just aim up and guide yourself by the red dot

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It still works I think

sage dawn Jun 26, 2023, 8:52 PM

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Gonna hop into voice if anyone wants to watch me receive thousands of items one at a time

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 8:52 PM

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I want to time it

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:52 PM

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The hot spring is the best room in deepnest

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 8:52 PM

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At least

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Failed to connect?

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 8:53 PM

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That's odd

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/connect archipelago.gg:55539

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Found Wcctnoam's Dream Wielder at Xero's

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Ooh, my Lurien

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 9:00 PM

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whats a lurien..

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 9:00 PM

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Oh must be the Dreamnail upgrade, for White Palace

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Good thing I put that out of logic

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 9:00 PM

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It's a dreamer

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I only need one dreamer left to finish the game

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Dream Wielder is a charm that makes dreamnail fast

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It also doubles the soul you get from using it

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 9:01 PM

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Oh the charm

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Nice

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 9:02 PM

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I will need the bow to continue in GTG and get Ixrecs item

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 9:05 PM

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IIRC Chip has a bow and Ixrec has a bow

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 9:06 PM

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it seems endering gerudo desert without the longshot wont happen so I guess my next place is see how far I get in the forest temple with no bow

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 9:07 PM

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You can always learn how to do the Gerudo Desert path by the map marker

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 9:07 PM

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i need the longshot to cross quicksand before that

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 9:08 PM

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ah

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 9:08 PM

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again, my bow is super postgame, it won't happen

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 9:09 PM

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Ixrec is in pogo hell

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Remember that you can pogo against the ground worms, not just the big ones

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 9:09 PM

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I know

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 9:09 PM

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Great!

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 9:09 PM

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I'm far from being stuck

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 9:10 PM

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Yeah but this room is really annoying and long and I fucking hate it

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Ooh I should fight marmu

fresh hill Jun 26, 2023, 9:11 PM

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the spike collision is super weird

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 9:12 PM

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Yeah, it's even weirder with charms that modify nail length

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 9:12 PM

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peek_Chandra_sad wheres the bow

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 9:13 PM

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no spoilers

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 9:13 PM

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i thought you knew

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 9:13 PM

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you'll find it I believe in you

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No

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I didnt know it was in your game either

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 9:13 PM

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You'll find it eventually

fierce vale Jun 26, 2023, 9:14 PM

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CoolHat i'm half way through the first dlc

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the final boss is gonna take a while though

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 9:16 PM

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Wcctnoam's quick focus

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Found @clear summit's legendary item!

clear summit Jun 26, 2023, 9:18 PM

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ooh

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 9:18 PM

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Thanks for the grubs, everyone https://i.imgur.com/twwG261.png

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(It's double jump!)

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Weaver's Den https://i.imgur.com/SADTBVf.png

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Most people think it only has one check, but it has a secret breakable wall and a double secret breakable wall

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Chip's Pickaxe. Get to mining!

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 9:32 PM

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cant do anything else in forest temple for now

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 9:36 PM

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Thank you for tram pass, Chip!

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 9:39 PM

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i think im quite stuck now without the bow or longshot

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i forgot one check in deku tree thats haunting me so ill go back there

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 9:40 PM

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That's good!

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 9:41 PM

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Congrats on Fire Arrows, Artiks

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They were in Yay's Water Temple, obviously

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#Elemental

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 9:51 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/YH49AVe.png

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Help I can't drop the chandelier on the big beetle https://i.imgur.com/o4hRfQL.png

Imgur

ancient harness Jun 26, 2023, 10:09 PM

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Just fight one more Watcher Knight

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 10:28 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/2cIxs2t.png

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This will be my fourth simple key

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https://i.imgur.com/QFq9dbJ.png @fresh hill

Imgur

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Found Artiks's hookshot https://i.imgur.com/QrbTBNY.png @weary lagoon

Imgur

weary lagoon Jun 26, 2023, 10:45 PM

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gandalfyeah

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Now I can cross the desert

midnight depot Jun 26, 2023, 11:10 PM

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Wcctnoam's elegant key https://i.imgur.com/50Qt9nN.png

Imgur

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https://i.imgur.com/XVCHZw3.png @fresh hill here's my recommended AP Map Mod setup

Imgur

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https://i.imgur.com/oTbySEP.png

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Do I fight zote for 200 essence?

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Probably need to get to the colosseum first

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 12:32 AM

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so I'm at 43% apparently

midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 12:33 AM

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That's the majority of the game

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Realistically you'll finish around 70% unless you're in BK mode for a while and have the time to explore nooks and crannies

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 12:34 AM

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cool, that's about what I would've guessed

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oh I forgot to check salubra on my last shop visit

midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 12:34 AM

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They call her Salubra because of her excessive slobbering

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 12:35 AM

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bought a grub for me and a grub for wcct

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and I think I'm now also at the point where I'm going to buy all these bad geo swaps just to clear them out

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1 more grub and I can get your Wayward Compass

midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 12:38 AM

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I love knowing where I am

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 12:42 AM

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all right, I have now bought/sold everything I possibly can to/from Sly, Iselda, Grubfather, Salubra, Lemm, and Leg Eater

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and I think nothing is blocked on rancid eggs (still have 32)

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apparently that trip alone bumped me from 43% to 46%

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does the text client have a way to look up how many hints I have?

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note to self: for tomorrow's session I should try to finish up waterways (at least fight dung defender), and then probably explore kingdom's edge or ancient abyss, which I believe are the only areas I have passed through but haven't yet explored to the point of ld/dj blockage yet

midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 12:50 AM

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fresh hill does the text client have a way to look up how many hints I have?

Not as far as I know but you have one hint for every 5%

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 12:52 AM

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right, then the question is how many did I use already

midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 12:53 AM

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Oh you can simply look at the group tracker to see how many hints you have and guess based on that. Alternatively, Ctrl+f the log file

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Remember I accidentally used one hint as you

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 12:53 AM

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I don't see hints on the group tracker

midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 12:54 AM

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I know ld/dj are both in Artiks's world and you used two hints to find that

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 12:55 AM

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yeah

midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 12:55 AM

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fresh hill I don't see hints on the group tracker

https://archipelago.gg/tracker/cmwyrv2jSgembMvxGOU6-g the second box shows all hints including free hints you got

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Free hints like looking at a whispering root or a shop

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 12:56 AM

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oh that's what the second table is

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I thought that was a log of who found what

midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 12:56 AM

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It shows only hinted items or important items. Not sure which

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 12:56 AM

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ah I forgot to check seer

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oh well

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pretty sure "Gold Skulltula Token" is not "important" so probably hinted

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(good example of a very easy UX win: those tables should have titles)

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looks like the vast majority of hinted items in my world are shops

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I guess they would be for most of us since visiting a shop immediately adds all of them

midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 12:58 AM

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Each shop has 16 items plus 16 more for Sly. That's uh.

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 12:58 AM

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and the few others I recognize as items I found but couldn't afford, or found but couldn't reach without ld/dj

midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 12:58 AM

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96ish?

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 12:58 AM

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with only one exception:

Ixrec Jay Distant Roost (2) Geo_Rock-Hive_Entrance

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so unless this is important, I've got nothing to specifically look for until Artiks can reach my ld/dj

midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 12:59 AM

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That's Lurien.

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Definitely need him

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 12:59 AM

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???

clear summit Jun 27, 2023, 12:59 AM

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Lurien is locked behind my game progress

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 1:00 AM

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the question was is Distant Roost (2) important for your game

clear summit Jun 27, 2023, 1:00 AM

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I don't think so

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Unless I go for 100%

midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 1:00 AM

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Oh sorry

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I was reading this wrong

clear summit Jun 27, 2023, 1:00 AM

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Oh I can unlock Lurien right now if you need it

midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 1:00 AM

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Distant roost is one of Jay's levels.

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 1:00 AM

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ok so my world contains nothing that's both important and reachable

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Lurien is one of the three final boss keys so yeah definitely need that at some point

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I was actually just about to use hints to find them

clear summit Jun 27, 2023, 1:01 AM

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midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 1:01 AM

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As soon as Ixrec has all three dreamers he can fight the final boss.

clear summit Jun 27, 2023, 1:01 AM

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I just checked that Scorched Acres was recently unlocked for me

midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 1:02 AM

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But he needs more checks if he wants the secret final final boss

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 1:02 AM

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yeah but I'll worry about those later

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anyway, no one's found a hint for Monomon so I'll spend mine on that

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ok yay has it

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iirc my awoken dream nail is blocked on a charm gate like 38 or something, so if I do want a proper Radiance ending the focus will quickly switch to charm completionism

midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 1:03 AM

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By the way, if the random people joining voice chat is frustrating we could use the voice party rooms (rooms 3 and 4) because they are more private

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 1:04 AM

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I keep meaning to ask and then forgetting to

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looks like none of the existing hints are for my unfound charms

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which makes sense, probably all of you bought every charm you saw in your shops

clear summit Jun 27, 2023, 1:05 AM

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I think I have enough maps unlocked, I'm gonna go for yet another massive wave of items

midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 1:05 AM

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clear summit I think I have enough maps unlocked, I'm gonna go for yet another massive wave o...

Good luck!

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 1:08 AM

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Jay: is "Dio's Best Friend" important?

midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 1:10 AM

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It protects you from one death

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Very handy

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 1:10 AM

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ok, so nice but nothing blocking

midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 1:11 AM

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There's a randomizer setting to hide two or three in the world, which is nice for harder games

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 1:15 AM

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@sage dawn just fyi (not a blocker yet): the last of my final boss keys is apparently in your water temple

sage dawn Jun 27, 2023, 1:21 AM

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That's not water. That's Deku Tree located in the entrance for Jabu Jabu's Belly

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@weary lagoon Frogs had your light arrows lol

midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 1:24 AM

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Oh that's good because I don't think the frogs could carry heavy arrows

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 1:29 AM

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huh

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 2:08 AM

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and I have all of my final boss keys now, thanks

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and... a second Right_Mothwing_Cloak? does that turn into shadow dash?

midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 2:08 AM

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Yes

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You need to hint for your rightslash

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 2:11 AM

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uh-oh, https://archipelago.gg/tracker/cmwyrv2jSgembMvxGOU6-g/0/4 doesn't even list a "rightslash"

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but the text client knows what it is

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now that feels very appropriate actually

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"you are not worthy of the final boss until you learn all four nail directions"

midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 2:11 AM

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The arcane egg

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You need kingsoul, kingbrand, right dash

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 2:11 AM

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I'm reacting more to "Birthplace"

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yeah it's past all the other true ending stuff

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you mean left dash, right?

midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 2:12 AM

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Right dash to cross a spike tunnel

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 2:12 AM

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ok but I already have right dash

midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 2:12 AM

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Good!

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Then all you need is kingsoul and the brand

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 2:13 AM

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might as well go ahead and hint those

midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 2:13 AM

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For kingsoul there are three separate checks

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 2:13 AM

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I'd also need 8 more charms for awoken dream nail but these are clearer blockers

midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 2:14 AM

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You need any two of the three

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 2:14 AM

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yeah for tonight I'll just do this one and maybe someone will bump into a few of the other requirements before it becomes pressing

midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 2:15 AM

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It'll be fine

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 2:15 AM

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Nosk! derpyfacewing

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ok was he in one of the areas I couldn't explore without the lantern

midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 2:15 AM

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You do not need the lantern for nosk but you need left crystal dash or double jump (you have the first one)

fresh hill Jun 27, 2023, 2:16 AM

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makes sense, a crystal dash-only entrance is not the kind of thing I'd find on my own

midnight depot Jun 27, 2023, 2:16 AM

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||It's the breakable wall left of the hot spring||

sage dawn Jun 27, 2023, 3:03 AM

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@midnight depot Cherish this geo. This check took me like ten minutes and 300 rupees because of how bad I am at it.

clear summit Jun 27, 2023, 3:03 AM

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Another Ending!

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But the game will continue...

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I have gotten every single check allowed to me right now

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So I can now wait again

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To accomplish 100%, I need 2 more maps and that's it

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Wait no, 3 more maps

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I need to clear 5 more maps, one is already unlocked (thanks Ixrec), and one is in my game

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One of the maps don't have any checks actually

sage dawn Jun 27, 2023, 3:47 AM

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I can probably get that chest in shadow temple for you, but I'm kinda waiting on hover boots because I have plenty to check that doesn't require me doing megaflips

ancient harness Jun 27, 2023, 4:43 AM

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Let's see what awaits me this morning

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Ah, I finally realised what the "Nothing?"s are, they're from the Junk Pit chests

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Small Doll sent

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HUGE

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