But it's plural, isn't it?
#Cities Skylines
frozen prairie
daring ember
gonna return and play the game at friday
I'm hoping to do a lot of detailing at the downtown
blissful comet
daring ember
seen it
hopefully it is not gonna break my game
as im playing with mods that fix those economy issues
daring ember
daring ember
first crash of the day ๐ฅ
second
tried starting the game
crashed on the loading screen
frozen prairie
Where's that other rail going?
daring ember
6 crashes already ๐ฅ
7
I think my save got fucked up somehow
nvm
any save crashes the game
I didnt add any other mods
and it was alright just a couple of minutes ago
like what the fuck is wrong
daring ember
blissful comet
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daring ember
added college
I think it sits nicely here
thats A LOT
bruh.
they need to learn how to drive
wut
daring ember
daring ember
daring ember
still working on it
I need to de-grid it so it looks more chaotic at the ends
areas left to do
frozen prairie
Don't know if anyone caught these
Biffa and Overcharged I think have videos too
frozen prairie
Grade seperation! But what of that other track?
daring ember
yeah... that's precisely what I gotta figure out
After I'm done with all that I gonna be rebuilding downtown
since it is kinda ass rn ngl
I hate that roundabout, totally not realistic
frozen prairie
America ๐ฆ
daring ember
daring ember
gonna be overground for the most part
nvm this stupid game doesnt have elevated metro stations????
wtf
blissful comet
I think you may have to unlock those.
daring ember
frozen prairie
That looks so good
frozen prairie
What's that side going to be?
daring ember
now I just gotta completly rework this thingie
daring ember
What's that side going to be?
zero clue
frozen prairie
How...
frozen prairie
Waterfront gas market is competitive
daring ember
daring ember
blissful comet
frozen prairie
It the red a tunnel?
daring ember
It the red a tunnel?
no, overground
since I have an outside of city highway that handles all the traffic I can finally do this
frozen prairie
Nice!
daring ember
in the making
daring ember
daring ember
that's a lot of buses
daring ember
even tho there is a traffic incident
bus still takes people in
just doesnt drive fully to the stop
how can ai be both that dumb and smart at the same time
daring ember
daring ember
niceee
so the game decided to randomly crash
for some reason that crash reset my settings???
even tutorials???
wtf
now it is hard to come back to my stable fps as i don't remember which tweaks i used to make the game playable
but turns out the game is so much beautiful on maxxed out graphics
...
with 12 fps
blissful comet
daring ember
for some reason that crash reset my settings???
I can't get smooth frames anymore even setting the settings as low as possible?????
tried setting graphics to the ones I used before and it has the same issues
daring ember
daring ember
I feel like over time I will remove this wheel as it is not up to the place
daring ember
frozen prairie
Now that's plural!
glass lily
Upper Manehattan, Downtown Manehattan, Central Manehattan,
more pony names and etc
daring ember
daring ember
Upper Manehattan, Downtown Manehattan, Central Manehattan,
more pony names and e...
dont really want to make it pony themed
daring ember
...
fuck this game
it did it again
it fucking did it again
my settings fucked up again
it reset everything to default
daring ember
I installed a settings manager mod
hopefully that helps next time it does this.
fucking piece of garbage, im not the only one with that issue, the game just randomly does that
have to patch it up with mods
daring ember
frozen prairie
I was like "Oh, wow! That's beautiful! pause Wait..."
daring ember
fixed supports??
now the easy part...
the thing is that for some reason they made it so
you cant drag metro rails through a road
daring ember
i tried everything the pathfinding is jsut ass
daring ember
as always game is broken.
this is bs.
fucking why
FINALLY
WHY IS THAT I CAN LEAVE IT WITHOUT A LOOP ON ANOTHER STATION
BUT HERE IT WANTS THIS
???????????
sigh.
at least it is over
holy shit I did it
daring ember
blissful comet
daring ember
daring ember
I can't plan american suburbia for shit ๐ญ
why is it so hard
I don't want to go with grid, I want cul-de-sacs
blissful comet
I'm still annoyed they don't have cul de sacs built into the game.
daring ember
oh yeah that's a huge missed opportunity
blissful comet
Note that they specifically point out that this will likely break mods, though they tried to work with the bigger ones to have an update ready before this goes live.
blissful comet
Additionally, we have added a Tile Upkeep cost since the dev diaries, which you will want to keep an eye on, especially if you have used Unlock All or mods to unlock all map tiles. Cities that have unlocked tiles gradually as they become available through milestones are expected to be able to afford the land they own (perhaps with some adjustments to taxes and service budgets), but if your city is still small and has unlocked most of the map, you may want to enable Unlimited Money.
blissful comet
Households without adults will now move away.
No more 8 year olds owning homes now.
blissful comet
frozen prairie
Line go down?
open lily
> Households without adults will now move away.
No more 8 year olds owning homes...
Finally, I can afford my own home and not meme wish that I should have bought one at 8 years old versus being in school! /s
daring ember
> Households without adults will now move away.
No more 8 year olds owning homes...
i see the problem it creates now.
more unreasonable pop. decline
blissful comet
Finally started a new city yesterday to try the patch. Starting out is definitely harder now, I'm unlocking milestones a long time before I can afford new buildings. I desperately need a recycle center and a high school, but I'm constantly borderline on my income.
blissful comet
My cemetery is on fire
Four fire trucks showed up, but only one can access the entrance to put out the fire. 
frozen prairie
I paid more attention to Allmost Meat
blissful comet
blissful comet
I paid more attention to Allmost Meat
That's the vegetable farm I had to destroy & rebuild after the tornado
pale epoch
@blissful comet How's performace so far?
I'm not super-duper interested in city-builders right now, but I own CS1, and might want to take a swing at CS2 if they've fixed the performace issues.
daring ember
My cemetery is on fire
huh, what a smart way to save some development points for crematorium.
blissful comet
<@129646994053398528> How's performace so far?
So far it's pretty good.
pale epoch
So far it's pretty good.
Good to hear. What sort of FPS are you getting and how consistent is that FPS?
blissful comet
80-140 FPS, depending on how much I'm zoomed in. Right now, I'm watching the mother of all traffic jams from putting High Density residential into my city, so 88 FPS
Note the Traffic Jam indicators at the top of the screen on the highway
I only have one highway into my city on this map. I need to buy a bunch of tiles and make a loop around the city to help relieve congestion.
frozen prairie
Be careful with that tile upkeep
blissful comet
My income is insane because I put down a geothermal power plant I'm selling power to other cities.
And Harley just flopped down in front of my screen, so I guess I'm done for today.
daring ember
80-140 FPS, depending on how much I'm zoomed in. Right now, I'm watching the mot...
dlss?
also I dont think that low quality is worth of a trade-off for high frames
daring ember
Medium settings with DLSS, 1440p.
where is your AO and shadows?? did they break the lighting or why does it look so scuffed on medium
blissful comet
I'm running off what the nVidia GeForce app suggests right now, shadows are off entirely IIRC (I'm at work now, can't check)
I think the suggestions are out of date, but I haven't bothered fighting with it yet.
daring ember
you should turn them on def
blissful comet
Well, I can't play again until Sunday minimum so, maybe if I remember then'
Also, you're talking to someone who grew up on the Atari and NES, I'm not terribly concerned with the best graphic fidelity. 
blissful comet
blissful comet
I just wanted to pop in and confirm that we're aware of the bug causing office companies to downscale until they're left with just 5/5 workers. This affects both high and low density offices. We're working on a fix, but I don't have an ETA for when it will come your way. We may not be able to patch it until after the summer lock.
pale epoch
Oh dear....
pale epoch
Yeah, that's really bad.
quaint kernel
Wheres the mod that changes the chirper logo to the X logo? 
quaint kernel
Wondering is someone actually made it
blissful comet
I know there were mods for C:S1 to disable it.
Some people just didn't like it at all.
pale epoch
I ended up changing it to a news ticker.
pale epoch
Some people just didn't like it at all.
I liked the information it provided, but hate the twitter format. Give me processed news in a news paper to ticker please.
Yep, I'm old school. I played SC2k, SC3k and SC4.
Also, a mayor getting info via only a twitter? Very questionable.
pale epoch
Sorry,that's just one of a very few major issues I have with the game.
blissful comet
I'm gonna have to give up on this city. I cannot fix the traffic problems without buying a dozen tiles and making a highway loop, which I cannot afford.
I probablly should've branched the highway off earlier into multiple forks to my city, but it's too late for that now.
Tried to relieve it with a rail connection, but it's not getting any passengers, so I've not set up the external route right somehow.
pale epoch
Ouch. Maybe I can figure it out when I get C:S2. I tend to be pretty good at this sort of stuff.
pale epoch
Tried to relieve it with a rail connection, but it's not getting any passengers,...
Are both ends connected to the outside world so it's a run-through station?
blissful comet
I honestly don't know, I may not have hooked it up right.
pale epoch
Try that, or if its just one connection, form a balloon loop to give a path out. If I recall correctly, both ends of a line within the city must connect to the rails outside the city.
Unlike IRL or any other train game (Transport Fever, Railroad Tycoon), a terminus or isolated line is not possible.
blissful comet
Oh. Well that's not going to work then because my city is in the way. I don't have room to loop the lines.
quaint kernel
I'm gonna have to give up on this city. I cannot fix the traffic problems withou...
Get a loan and buy tiles, your income looks good
blissful comet
I'd need around a dozen tiles to make the loop, and the upkeep on those plus a loan would likely break the bank. Even if it didn't, I wouldn't be able to afford anything else.
quaint kernel
Could I have your game save?
blissful comet
If you really want, I'm going to start over with lessons learned from this one.
quaint kernel
Sure, why not
blissful comet
I have no idea where it stores game files tho
blissful comet
Nothing there, just a Quicksave file
quaint kernel
yeah htats it
blissful comet
Eh? That has all the savefiles in it?
quaint kernel
blissful comet
Pretty sure that's just the quicksave from the aborted attempt at a new city I tried yesterday tho
quaint kernel
did't work
blissful comet
That's all I've got in that folder.
Oh wait, that's the CS 1 folder
There is no CS2 folder there
Ah there we are. I was in Local, not LocalLow (WTF is that folder name?)
That's where I gave up
quaint kernel
okay I started by removing some crosswalks
Where is your bus station?
dosen't seem too bad
@blissful comet build a bus station, you canm connect a bus line to a connection on the highway outside the city
blissful comet
Where is your bus station?
I have a terminal on the left side of the map, I don't remember if I ever built a station itself.
quaint kernel
It's why you have so many taxies
blissful comet
I was wondering about that
quaint kernel
Thats a Bus Depot its where new buses come from and where they go when out of use
blissful comet
Right
blissful comet
Hm. May try that then.
quaint kernel
you can ajust how many bus for each line, and switch to eletric busesm because you need to opt in every time you make a line
Try this
And having a few no left hand turn signs might help too
left and stright only
Okay i'm happy with this
the two one lane roads here might of fixed it
it forces the cars to go further down and then make a left hand turn into the city
Or try something like this?
blissful comet
I kept getting errors when trying to make roundabouts there. Might look at it again.
blissful comet
Patch notes
Today's patch includes fixes for some of the issues reported with patch 1.1.5f1, also known as Economy 2.0, as well as some new free content. Our art team has been working on new service building variations and additional theme vehicles to expand the options you have. For those of you who enjoy detailing, we have added an Age Selector to the Tree Placement Tool for more control over your trees, and the Surface Tool which allows you to add 11 different surfaces to your city. As the #1 implies, this is only part 1 of "Detailer's Patch" as we want to address the feedback we've received and improve the support for this play style. More information on what else we have in the works to com
Office bug has been fixed
Apparently you might have to demolish offices to get them to repopulate, as the fix only kicks in when a new company moves into the building.
You can zone on roundabouts
Highly suggest watching the video there's a ton of detailing functions now
Can use Surface tool to create custom lots
quaint kernel
@blissful comet does your highway work now?
blissful comet
I didn't feel up to playing yesterday.
quaint kernel
you have much lower populaton then me
it felt weird having a city that drives on the right
blissful comet
heh
frozen prairie
Oh wow! that's awesome
blissful comet
- Made improvements so Post Offices can now receive varying load sizes of mail. Additionally, delivery vans can transport mail.
- Adjusted utility consumption, capacity, construction cost, and upkeep of Post Office 02 and its upgrade.
- Fixed missing icon for Radio Mast Wireless Network Antenna upgrade.
quaint kernel
the tile costing too much problem was not really a problem for me, I've played this file on and off since release and I keept my city more compact and not buy tiles for no reason
pale epoch
Does C:S II include trams/streetcars by default? They're my favorite form of intra-city mass transit and are great at reducing road vehicle usage.
pale epoch
Yay! I can work with that.
pale epoch
You have to unlock them as you progress, but they're part of the base game.
Thank you.
frozen prairie
Trams being locked behind Snowfall of all DLC was the worst thing ever
blissful comet
Yeah that was a weird DLC to place them in for CS1
pale epoch
I concur. It makes sense if you think about where trams are commonly used, but here in the states, intercity streetcar networks were and still a thing, from the northeast to the southwest.
blissful comet
tl;dr They've not been able to hit stability and performance targets for console yet, so they won't hit their planned October release. Will re-evaluate in August.
blissful comet
pale epoch
https://youtu.be/6tYWAxVZtOI?si=wDwoZHVXHddVbAew
Thank you. I didn't arrive at 1.0 when I bought it, so it's very interesting to see how much it's changed between launch and when I bought it.
blissful comet
prime quail
Hot take: A pony mod for Cities: Skylines
frozen prairie
Like pony citizens?
daring ember
man fuck this game
why did it reset my settings
i just wanted to play it after a monthly break
but now i need to do 1000000 things to make this shit run as it did
...
now it also runs in 30 fps with the lowest graphics
Am I the only one who's performance signifyingly dropped this patch?
on the plus side they made amd framgen work in the game
but it is kinda cursed sometimes
mossy yarrow
love that I can do this in CS2
The fact that roads aren't so fiddly and that you can do that makes the game feel so much nicer to play than 1, yeah XD
mossy yarrow
Noice~
frozen prairie
It's odd seeing the same map, but a different city on it...
daring ember
With some of the new ones?
no
the same
so it uses less employes
I've played with mods that fixed buildings by adding more employees
Ok i did add some new
like urban elementary school
blissful comet
I started a new city this weekend, it's going decently so far.
blissful comet
Made an expansion on the left to cross the river & get more highway access, plus gave me some Ore and Fertile Land, so I made a rural community down there.
From the opposite side:
... literally five minutes later, I hit a power bottleneck.
frozen prairie
Those are some tall mountains
frozen prairie
... literally five minutes later, I hit a power bottleneck. <:rdwut:399725074204...
oof
daring ember
From the opposite side:
i like that you actually extract resources I need to make specialised industry in my city too so that I balance out my budget
it is currently at -500k a month
blissful comet
Oh I love the specialized industry, it's really fun to have.
frozen prairie
Industries was like the best DLC
daring ember
I think the new update broke my city coz Ive been playing with mods
my zoning demand is at zero and expenses continue to grow as taxes plummet
daring ember
guys
I've tried running simulation
it is joeover
the city is broken
it would never recover
frozen prairie
Did you try resetting the offices?
blissful comet
I just had to quit playing because my cat insists on laying in front of the monitor.
blissful comet
I love how he makes fun of himself for getting lost in fiddling with details trying to get it just right.
frozen prairie
This was an interesting one... ||I wasn't expecting him to pull so many mulligans and to also build the highway above the paper mill||
A little crazy lol
blissful comet
This was an interesting one... ||I wasn't expecting him to pull so many mulligan...
Yeah, I've seen the latter IRL once, but it's still crazy to me.
frozen prairie
Ah, there it is
blissful comet
Welp, played most of the day, but didn't actually gain a lot of population. Was mostly managing some issues with traffic, and using my new Incinerator to get rid of all my landfill garbage.
Wound up adding some new schools, expanding some existing ones. Fixed a few bus routes so they weren't going through my most busy intersection. Repurposed a few areas with new roads & zoning. Added a Water Treatment plant so I could stop dumping sewage into the river.
Managed to save up enough money I could buy a few more tiles, get a new highway connection to my main arterial road to hopefully relieve some traffic. Added rail and trams to the new districts I'm laying out on that side of the city before I start zoning, hoping that'll help with the massive influx of population when that happens.
And as I was finishing that, I hit Milestone 10 (Small City).
Parking! I need to remember to add parking to that area tomorrow.
frozen prairie
Any pics?
blissful comet
I meant to grab a few, but the game locked up after saving.
frozen prairie
Oof, oh well
blissful comet
I did not respect the terrain in a few spots, so there's some ugly bits around the new high school on the west end, but oh well.
Oh, and all my schools were at capacity by the time I quit.
I need to sim for a while to make cash. I've got really good income, but I spent all but $9k right before I stopped for the day.
blissful comet
Okay, so here's the broad overview of my city, Ashland.
Little rural community across the river for some coal & rock mining, plus some farms. I'll expand it later, there's some more fertile land over there.
This is the "west" end of the city. Sterling Square and Applegate are mostly single family homes and row houses. Applegate has the main bus station.
Hawthorn grove is basically shops and offices. I did add a water treatment plant, because my sewage was hitting its limit.
Old Ashland is where I started my build, Alder Hills is a gated community for wealthier folks.
King's Corner is my industry, with a forestry & oil site. The Incinerator is where the original landfill used to be, and I just put the rail yard up where my second landfill was. Fucked up the terrain, but oh well.
Maple Town is mostly offices and medium-density residential. I dropped a Geothermal plant across the road to the north, I'm making craptons of power.
Elizabeth Junction was my first higher density zoning, but the problem is that EVERYONE wants to come in via that highway connection to the south across the river. I can't get them to use the one further west. I created a new one to the east in my new development, but people still seem to prefer this one.
I wound up moving a couple service buildings into that little cluster to the right, and zoned in some Low Income residential there. You can also see the crappy walking bridges I built between the shopping area in the north and the residential in the south.
And this is going to be my new section of the city:
Chester Hill will be another gated community of mostly low density. Walnut Way is going to be very high density along the river. Anchor Crossing will be medium density.
There is a commuter train station at the top, plus a small bus station, a second bus terminal and a tram terminal.
There's a series of three tram lines, two running either direction down to Walnut Way and back up to the rail station, and one running from the rail station over to Elizabeth Junction, near its bus station.
So the idea is that you can arrive in the city via train, take a tram to the main things in the west side, or take a tram or bus to the bus station and from there go all over the city.
My eventual goal will be to place a small train station on the west end, so you can take a tram up to the train, a brief train ride to the west, then bus around on that end.
Eventually, the west end will likely be developed as more industrial zoning, as I'm not manufacturing as much locally as I'd like. I'll wind up putting cargo rail over there, and maybe a boat terminal for cargo and passengers. Trouble is, the land is very hilly over there, so it'll be hard to build on.
Like, just look at that frickin' canyon
If I ever run low on power, I may just build a hydro dam.
Also, at some point I want to do something with this island:
Right now, I need to sim until I get some money and clear up this goddamn traffic
frozen prairie
Awesome build!
blissful comet
Uh, oops
Must've been a crash and it gummed up everything
I moved the bus stop and that seemed to free up a little bit of traffic
Okay, the problem is the tram stop. I need to move that further down.
blissful comet
Awesome build!
Thank you!
blissful comet
Started expanding into the new area, divided up the riverside districts. The middle is going to have a tourism focus, the one by the highway will be office and commercial.
blissful comet
Look at that glorious telecom coverage
blissful comet
The rich people have their own private schools.
blissful comet
My new river skyline
Pedestrian crossings were screwing up this intersection, so I made some elevated walkways
... I keep forgetting there's a photo mode
blissful comet
Done for today. I'm finding that this map has the problem where there's very little even terrain. I have no room for a University or any of the other big buildings.
blissful comet
blissful comet
https://youtu.be/iaLcR3hYt7U?si=FRifW1Mpn6n-tjDK
daring ember
frozen prairie
Wha? That is so cool!
Does CSII have more modding tools, because all of this is some pretty cool stuff
blissful comet
There's a good chunk of mods now. We're still waiting on the asset editor to get new buildings, though.
frozen prairie
It makes me want to buy the game, but I might wait until the asset stuff comes
frozen prairie
He better not use this to change the rail line in Paradise Bay again
daring ember
here we go again...
hushed moth
Those trains have my interest.
blissful comet
blissful comet
Oh god, one of the mods in the Cities: Skylines Discord server got hacked and the spammer is going nuts
frozen prairie
Oh RIP
open lily
Rumor from elsewhere is that it was a free OnlyFans link. lol if true.
blissful comet
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blissful comet
Small patch coming out tomorrow
Combination of a decorations patch, and a fix for the homelessness problem.
frozen prairie
blissful comet
Saw that this morning. There's some speculation that the "Goodbye Homeless" mod may be causing problems, because people who did not use the mod are seeing drastic declines in homelessness.
blissful comet
winged kiln
trying to make a custom map to use but the rivers are acting very wacky in cs1
frozen prairie
Water is always funky, in both versions lol
blissful comet
It's especially bad in CS1 but, yeah, it's weird in both.
winged kiln
trying to make a custom map to use but the rivers are acting very wacky in cs1
managed to make not so bad. now i can play in interlaken. ๐จ๐ญ
blissful comet
frozen prairie
I already use it, tho I do need to download the new albums
blissful comet
I started watching it, but stopped when it became clear the island was wayyyy too small to fit Manhattan into it.
frozen prairie
Yeah, he kept expanding it. I thought it was a weird approach to the build
Tho I guess we'll have to see how this goes in future episodes
winged kiln
just noticed that one of my bus stop has 10% of my entire population just waiting there ๐
blissful comet
Sounds like you need some more alternative transit.
winged kiln
i got a metro but the station near that bus stop is at 700 people waiting
blissful comet
Time to figure out where they're trying to go and spread out the bus routes.
blissful comet
Just started watching that
frozen prairie
And then Two Dollars posts a video as well...
daring ember
I fell out of CS2 after new update broke my save file
are there any good vanilla-like maps besides Magnolia Country
blissful comet
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blissful comet
Important update for all Cities: Skylines II Players:
There is a potential security issue that has affected the โTrafficโ mod for Cities: Skylines II. Late Monday evening, an outside actor pushed an update to the mod, which includes a .dll file which we believe is malicious. We have already removed it and the current version as of Thursday, October 31, 2024 10:35 AM is safe to download and use, but if your mod synced and you played the game using the mod between Monday and then, there is a possibility that you may have the malicious file.
blissful comet
frozen prairie
oooo!
blissful comet
frozen prairie
Awesome!
blissful comet
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mossy reef
i started playing
mossy reef
they are meh
i'm happy with them, i make money with both and don't have any major issues
that's my new one
frozen prairie
ooo, neat
frozen prairie
I need to play this game again
mossy reef
i think they're okay, obviously beginner level but i like them
first one has an abandonned buildings issues though lol
frozen prairie
I mean... I have a world record for goodness sake, and I don't touch the game still...
mossy reef
and this one's from 2019 lol
frozen prairie
first one has an abandonned buildings issues though lol
yeah, it's hard to fix things like that at a beginner level
mossy reef
I mean... I have a world record for goodness sake, and I don't touch the game st...
???
do tell
mossy reef
yeah, it's hard to fix things like that at a beginner level
what i found that worked in my second city is to try nd always have a bit of demand for everything
commercial demand i keep like 1/3rd of the demand bar otherwise they seemed to run out of goods to sell fast af
mossy reef
that's p cool!
frozen prairie
I should do more runs, they added a new catagory
mossy reef
btw how do y'all make cool looking cities
do you plan them at the beginning or do you rebuild them once you're rich N
mossy reef
i've watched him after masque i think recommend me it, but iirc he has infinite money
frozen prairie
do you plan them at the beginning or do you rebuild them once you're rich N
For me, I just sorta build a small town at the start and build bigger and bigger towns
blissful comet
i've watched him after masque i think recommend me it, but iirc he has infinite ...
Depends on the build. Some of them are vanilla, no mods, no cheats.
frozen prairie
He does play with mods and assets on some series too
mossy reef
oh i only watched a single serieso f it oop
blissful comet
IIRC, Verde Beach was his no-mods playthrough for CS1.
mossy reef
oh yes it was this one !
mossy reef
how so ?
my style of playing for now is really trying to not to be in t he red
and have people happy
frozen prairie
A story can add depth to your city. Like maybe there's some resistance to a certain project that leads to that project going in a different way than how it would usually go
mossy reef
yes but about the city looking good ?
like do you have a plan for how you'll do things later on when you're in the early stages ?
frozen prairie
I plan as I go
mossy reef
can i see your cities
frozen prairie
Let me see if I can find some screenshots
mossy reef
hell yeah
mossy reef
how do you have so little industrial
mossy reef
i need to get assets to get all the cool lookingstuff
blissful comet
One thing I noticed, Yanis, you have some really big gaps between your zoning. Narrowing that might help a bit.
Also, do you only have the base game? The Industries DLC has some specialized industry that makes it easier to meet Industrial demand without huge zones.
frozen prairie
You don't need to, you can still do a whole lot with vanilla assets
mossy reef
onlt base game yess
i like the big gaps, i find it looks nicer in low density zoning
but as soon as it getrs high density it sucks though
i'd like the dlcs but i don't have any monies so no dlc for now
frozen prairie
Wait, I wonder if I have the map
Found the map
I never did finish this city though...
Another thing that is useful for making a natural city is working with the terrain. Follow rivers, go around hills.
winged kiln
Found the map
What website can you get this from? 
blissful comet
blissful comet
frozen prairie
Amazing! They're inching me closer and closer to the buy button...
blissful comet
blissful comet
open lily
Where's my honey mustard and beer to go with it? /s
mossy reef
american layout with european architecture
basically yes uwu
the montreal we could have had but didn't
swift geyser
winged kiln
guess which irl town i took the terrain map from <:izzylurk:909475647427067904>
I took the terrain from interlaken for this town. It is very mountainous and has limited flat space.
hushed moth
I see.
glass lily
american layout with european architecture
grid grid grid grid grID GRID GRID GRID GRID GRID GRI
-American City Planners
swift geyser
Only until 1940-50, when they decided that they hated the grid after all 
(Also, the Indus Valley civilization, ancient China, ancient Rome, etc. etc.)
hushed moth
Grid is good.
frozen prairie
Cites Skylines uses square parcels so... Grids are easiest
frozen prairie
Oh, just like Oklahoma! And the rest of the midwest
mossy reef
Cites Skylines uses square parcels so... Grids are easiest
You don't actually have to build on the grid when placing buildings!!
frozen prairie
I know, but it's still the easiest
Tho mods def help with more non-squared building
blissful comet
As CityPlannerPlays says, "Respect the topography!"
mossy reef
Uwu
swift geyser
If you ever wondered why maps of American farms look like that.
I am extremely familiar with it, not least because last year I lived in a part of town where all of the major roads (except the Interstate) very transparently followed the grid lines.
frozen prairie
Midwest City followed that trend with major roads, like 10th and Reno
blissful comet
CS1 is on massive discount right now:
frozen prairie
I have made the decision to buy Cities Skylines 2
I brought Ultimate Edition of course
blissful comet
It's a good game!
Hopefully you have enough storage space for the new country packs.
frozen prairie
I had to clear some, yeah
frozen prairie
frozen prairie
This is my first time buying Content Creator Packs
It looks like the service buildings are the main draw
blissful comet
Modern Architecture is looking to be a must-buy. Even though the sub buildings are using the old "snap to main building" feature, they are cheaper, smaller, and have more options than the vanilla service buildings.
blissful comet
That's how people enter your town if there's no bus route & they can't afford a car. Did you just zone Low Income Housing?
frozen prairie
There's some yea, tho I think all the high density is low rent rn
blissful comet
Yup, that'll do it. If you've got a bus station, throw a line out of the city.
frozen prairie
First, I would need to add a public transport 
blissful comet
This is why I avoid low income housing until I have at least a bus station.
blissful comet
Looks like there's a free weekend for CS2 coming up.
frozen prairie
Nice
frozen prairie
Small line
frozen prairie
Oops..
blissful comet
mossy reef
there's a park, a dog park, and a playground
thanksss!!! :DDD
i'm quite happy with it
but i wanna make a fully custom park at one point, game leisure parks are annoying to work with
mossy reef
new city after 1h30 of playing
this one i'll try to make it somewhat nice looking
glass lily
new city after 1h30 of playing
this one i'll try to make it somewhat nice lookin...
รanis hitting that grid(dy)
blissful comet
frozen prairie
ooo! More low density!
mossy reef
current map of my city
Send screenshots!!
glass lily
Yo is the map cs2 exclusive or can you get it in cs1?
City skylines, not counter strike
winged kiln
Yo is the map cs2 exclusive or can you get it in cs1?
it is a cs1 mod called csl map view. it generates a map view of the city you are playing.
winged kiln
Send screenshots!!
some screenshots of my city
it is now 120k in population
my current map view
frozen prairie
I think there's also a map mod for CSII as well
frozen prairie
I really like the parking roads and new mini parks
blissful comet
winged kiln
"homeless fix" ๐
blissful comet
Yeah, hopefully this actually fixes the bug. The problem was that if someone was "evicted" from their home (either you demolished it, or it leveled up beyond their ability to pay) they would never move into a new place, even if you zoned for it. They'd just be stuck in a permanent Homeless state.
frozen prairie
Stress testing homelessness
frozen prairie
I may have decreased density in some areas...
frozen prairie
Nah, that's just me being dumb
There were only like 3k before this
wait nvm
This is the prepatch save from yesterday
blissful comet
daring ember
i wonder if eastern europe pack is going to contain commie blocks
blissful comet
Probably a good chunk of Brutalist architecture, yes.
mossy reef
France is the only western country to have widespread commie blocks around its cities
blissful comet
Western designers got a bit wild with it
I guess technically the eastern European version (the OG) is called Stalinist architecture
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinist_architecture
daring ember
i wonder how would they choose their phrasing in the teaser video
coz you have to be really politically correct with the term eastern europe
since ppl in some countries dont want to be associated with that
/ inb4 they actually make the pack contain czech and polish architecture and have to rename it to central europe pack after backlash
frozen prairie
How many are they planning on doing?
blissful comet
frozen prairie
Ah, 4 more
blissful comet
I expect US East will have a lot of New England styles (ie. New York, Boston, etc.), while West will have California and PNW stuff.
frozen prairie
I wish they would do Mexico, Spain, or Latin America because the North American Theme is just the US mostly
blissful comet
Would be interesting. I expect we'll see more of that stuff once the actual Asset Creator tool is released.
frozen prairie
No word on that I assume
blissful comet
Nope, they're still trying to get it ready for public use, but they're focused primarily on making the core came run smoother as their top priority.
frozen prairie
Move it seems very crashy this update
blissful comet
Started a new city. Went completely broke.
Started a new city on the same map. This time I was more careful with my spending... right up until I took out a massive loan to buy a Geothermal power plant, but thankfully selling the excess electricity has me in the green for now.
frozen prairie
That's good
My city has been booming, after we fixed the flooding by draining the oceans
I dislike water in both games
It's running mostly the same mods as Magnolia County
blissful comet
I'm running entirely vanilla, myself.
frozen prairie
Tho it's on Segunda Beach
frozen prairie
Spaghetti DDI
frozen prairie
Landscaping to ignore the sins of highway tearing through and under houses
blissful comet
swift geyser
American DOTs like:
frozen prairie
Well it is an American based city, I guess I shouldn't be too hard on myself, it's realistic
swift geyser
prime quail
I thought American city is more: Giant highway straight through town, with grid roads on either side
frozen prairie
It is a giant highway with grids
hushed moth
And the giant highway is usually haphazardly routed through the centre.
frozen prairie
Well it is, at least through the poorer town
blissful comet
I thought American city is more: Giant highway straight through town, with grid ...
swift geyser
I-95/I-195/U.S. 6 in Providence is worse.
glass lily
Just one more lane, it'll fix the traffic I swear just one more lane
swift geyser
Surprisingly my current city (Boise) only has the mild example of I-184, because when the freeways were originally built in the 1970s they were mostly through less developed areas. You can clearly see this on the map on page 3 in this 1975 study: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GOVPUB-TD2-7ebea361d2253e1bf5a68c9e887dd0c8/pdf/GOVPUB-TD2-7ebea361d2253e1bf5a68c9e887dd0c8.pdf
The existing development conforming to this patter postdates the freeways, and was built where it was built because of the freeways. Which is a whole different can of worms...
frozen prairie
I-95/I-195/U.S. 6 in Providence is worse.
They have a monster interchange in their 5 square miles?
swift geyser
- Yes
- the legal borders of Providence are, like most U.S. cities, very silly and I donโt care about them.
Basically the entire western and southern side of Downtown Providence is a massive freeway interchange that cuts it off from the rest of the city just like the Woonasquatucket River does from the north and east.
frozen prairie
I watch a Segunda Beach episode and then I look back at my city and I just go like: "What have I done..."
frozen prairie
Ok, it's not that bad...
frozen prairie
To be determined?
frozen prairie
mossy reef
paris looking ass buildings
frozen prairie
Correct
blissful comet
My newest city
frozen prairie
oooo! Nice
blissful comet
Had to take out a loan to afford that geothermal power plant, but selling the excess power has me making money
frozen prairie
Everypone is playing cities today lol
frozen prairie
Oh wait, that's Segunda too
blissful comet
I love the new parking lot roads.
frozen prairie
They're great!
blissful comet
I keep getting frickin' hailstorms.
frozen prairie
There's hail? I guess I never did invest into EDWS
daring ember
daring ember
somethings like this?
frozen prairie
somethings like this?
That does look quite nice
mossy reef
make the riverside a park
daring ember
make the riverside a park
youve meant a huge wallmart parking lot?
frozen prairie
nuar!
mossy reef
i hate you
daring ember
youre welcome โค๏ธ
frozen prairie
daring ember
what's that huge building
mossy reef
public restroom
daring ember
I actually think this layout would be enough for a start
ill gradually develop it later
frozen prairie
what's that huge building
Medical University
blissful comet
Well, I bankrupted my town twice & had to reload... but the third time was the charm, I was making money hand over fist.
frozen prairie
oof
blissful comet
Forgot to take a screenshot before I shut down. It's mostly a grid, but I did something funky with my newest district because of the terrain.
Now that I'm actually making money, I'm going to build a bus depot & start getting public transit in place. Once I fill in the new district, I need to figure out where I'm going to expand.
Also, fucking hailstorms. 
daring ember
blissful comet
Spencer County
This is the original city (Old Spencer district) and the areas I expanded into. Elizabeth Crossing is using UK style buildings for fun.
Oh it hid the district names. Eh.
Anyway, this is the other side of the main road in. There's a nasty slope, so I just made the new diagonal districts to try and even things out a bit.
So, uh, you can see where the landfill used to be up top, and a quarry at the bottom. Will have to wait for that pollution to die down before regular zoning goes there.
frozen prairie
Cool
frozen prairie
This looks great!
frozen prairie
I should use some too...
blissful comet
what about cul-de-sacs
Yeah those are cul-de-sacs in the diagonal area
Oh god, this curve
frozen prairie
What's with the car and bus?
blissful comet
Graphics glitch.
frozen prairie
oh dear
blissful comet
Anyway, I think that filled in nicely
frozen prairie
My stroad backfired 
swift geyser
Oh no! Anyway...
frozen prairie
What kind of crash was that? That's 230 m from the road
mossy reef
My stroad backfired <a:PBCrying:1200025057108435074>
6 lane with stores on both sides wtf
mossy reef
Oh right makes sense
baffled at road and urban design
"it's american"
everything starts making sense.gif
hushed moth
Postwar civil engineers thought new technologies meant they could break with traditional design patterns and bring about a new, better paradigm, one centred on moving many private automobiles between designated and separate regions for work, school, residential uses, shopping, and recreation. They were mistaken but only now are people realising that.
frozen prairie
I knew it was a bad idea and did it anyway
Maybe I could redevelop it into something else tho
hushed moth
That would be nice.
hushed moth
Road diet (narrowing streets) perhaps?
frozen prairie
Maybe, the problem is that it connects two highways and connects the port to the industrial area
hushed moth
Yeah that is going to need some thought.
mossy reef
I knew it was a bad idea and did it anyway
In the mind of an American city planner
frozen prairie
What I was going for
swift geyser
Postwar civil engineers thought new technologies meant they could break with tra...
Do you want the quote from the governor of Hawai'i? Because I have an awesome quote from the governor of Hawai'i in the 1960s...
hushed moth
Share quote. 
swift geyser
Taken in the mass, the automobile is a noxious mechanism whose destiny in workaday urban use is to frustrate man and make dead certain that he approaches his daily occupation unhappy and inefficient.
Actually I misremembered, that was Neil Blaisdell, the mayor of Honolulu (not the governor) in 1966 
Anyway, it's not a coincidence that the Great Society subway projects were started in the 1950s-1960s, or that there was a (regrettably brief) bike craze in the early 1970s with the first serious designs for bike lane networks.
Saying anything else about that would be decidedly R2 though
frozen prairie
I don't think I can build a Subway at least on the peninsula, the Highway runs underground
frozen prairie
Maybe I could redevelop it into something else tho
There's the industry valley and then the port, any ideas for a redevelop?
frozen prairie
daring ember
I knew it was a bad idea and did it anyway
upgrade each lane in one direction into a bus lane
blissful comet
Downgrade to a four lane, add frontage roads. The buildings will have to redevelop & be smaller, but it might help.
frozen prairie
Hm... Alright, I'll try that
blissful comet
This will either fix it, or make it so much worse.
frozen prairie
Tbf, most of the traffic was from people moving in I think
blissful comet
Ah, yeah, that's a common issue. Best fix is to have an alternative way into the city + busses/trains/planes to other cities.
blissful comet
Nice!
frozen prairie
Since I got it, I've played CSII for 3.5 hours each day
blissful comet
Neat! I'd like to play more, but I've been busy.
daring ember
frozen prairie
Oh looking nice
winged kiln
played cs1 today, new residental area added in the north-east.
frozen prairie
Nice!
frozen prairie
Nice park
frozen prairie
Maybe you could put a pocket park near one of the entrances
frozen prairie
Oh.
daring ember
blissful comet
I dont have them unlocked
Might be worth just sitting and letting the game sim for a while to unlock the perk points.
daring ember
I think the problem is in me
I haven't been expanding the city (at all)
and there is no education to upgrade existing buildings
blissful comet
Yeah, schools wind up being a serious speed bump until you can unlock & afford them.
frozen prairie
And you need like 50 elementary schools
blissful comet
The trick is to create districts and restrict each school to only handle a couple districts. That way they dont instantly fill up from students throughout the entire map.
swift geyser
In other words, implement neighborhood schooling instead of bussing
frozen prairie
They still need like 50 tho
I think time to graduation is bugged on all levels of education
blissful comet
It's not that extreme, especially if you make use of the schools that can increase capacity through sub buildings.
frozen prairie
Yeah, I always upgrade the schools to meet demand
winged kiln
played cs1 today, new residental area added in the north-east.
traffic here is really bad though.
55% traffic score
daring ember
frozen prairie
Looking goods