This is the recommended order to do the story stuff in level-wise.
#Pokémon
orchid solar
this isn't really the correct order
number 5 is the weakest of the star bases
but this kind of underscores what I mean, you're all over the map constantly
quick kayak
Yeah I noticed the levels of things decreasing suddenly when I've been wrapping around the island
rough sand
non-linear but the fights don't scale
quick kayak
I would've assumed that they would scale... I like the idea of the open world, but it needs to scale with the player at least in some fashion.
heavy stone
I just found that picture somewhere on the internet and I can't really say if it's super accurate or not because of that, but following that order has worked for me so far. I ended up getting a bit overleveled anyway because I kept getting distracted from the story, but the enemy levels will start to match and sometimes exceed yours very quickly near the end of that path.
solid talon
Yeah this is Just shows at this point either the games need more dev time, a new console is needed with better hardware to support game ambitions, or gamefreak is incompetent at 3d open world making.
personally i think its more the first two
opaque skiff
Nobody really understands what they were thinking with the release schedule
"They didn't have enough time" yeah sure especially since they somehow for whatever reason decided to release PLA
orchid solar
why does Iono have pointed teeth?
haughty needle
bc shes copying gura /s
orchid solar
who?
heavy stone
A VTuber.
pure prairie
quick kayak
True
last rampart
I have been liking the game, though it really needs some QOL updates, especially with performance.
heavy stone
My only real complaint about Scarlet and Violet is that they don't have the mass release option from Legends: Arceus. There's really no reason for that to be absent.
It's such a good and convenient feature that's just gone in the very next games for seemingly no reason.
quick kayak
Tbh I care more about them fixing some glaring visual bugs. Shadow flickering due to bad terrain culling is probably the most distracting one for me
pure prairie
I concur. I feel like they should be able to address that.
haughty needle
what'd it do
quick kayak
It attacked 😦
orchid solar
I'm trying to walk it, to get it to evolve, and it picked up something new so I had the message about the new item. Which you press A to clear. Except it faded just as I pressed A and my character paused to say hello to the tumbleweed... only for a bagon to sneak up behind me and catch me
haughty needle
dang, the uprising's already beginning
orchid solar
I caught an engine block
heavy stone
The engine thing apparently has Slow Start as its hidden ability, which is very funny.
pure prairie
The engine block Pokémon is the most absurd one in this gen 
pure prairie
I think the family of mice is less silly than the family of eggs in gen 1 
orchid solar
interestingly, mine evolved
pure prairie
But the muscle car as a Pokémon is just a giant 
quick kayak
But the muscle car as a Pokémon is just a giant <a:izzywhat:891381404741550130>
I still haven't fully processed this
But at the same time, even gen 1 has mechanical man-made pokemon
Magnemite/Magneton, Porygon, and Mewtwo come to mind
But an engine block hits different
heavy stone
I don't think the engine Pokémon are manmade. Team Star just uses them to power their giant vehicles since their original plan of using Fire types didn't work.
quick kayak
If it's not man made then I have many questions
orchid solar
oh no it gets worse
oh I misread it
scarlet says: "It is said that this Pokémon was born when an unknown poison Pokémon entered and inspirited an engine left at a scrap-processing factory."
haughty needle
possesion it seems
no ghost typing seems odd but i welcome the 1st posion/steel regardless
heavy stone
It would've been super cool if they had Levitate as one of their abilities.
haughty needle
lol yea that 4x ground weakness
quick kayak
Hot take, but I think something like levitate should be a more passive side ability for all mons that actually levitate, even if they currently don't have the actual ability. Game balance concerns aside, I feel this would just make more intuitive sense
orchid solar
great. I'm being harassed by engines now
heavy stone
Hot take, but I think something like levitate should be a more passive side abil...
I don't think that's a hot take at all. It seems like a lot of people have had that exact thought. Being anchored to the ground and unable to be lifted by moves like Sky Drop and Telekinesis is a built-in quality of some species, so levitating above the ground should be one too.
haughty needle
side note, its weird and funny when a pokemon like Flygon uses dig, the opponent then uses earthquake but it does nothing bc of flygon's levitate
last rampart
great. I'm being harassed by engines now
Chased by Varoom?
quick kayak
Levitating in the confines of your own dug in hole to dodge an earthquake 
orchid solar
varoom varoom
haughty needle
its vroomin time 🏎️
quick kayak
🚗
last rampart
I evolved one into revaroom. Good moveset, but low coverage and x4 weakness to ground really grind my gears. Ugh, went in and it just keeps getting targeted with earthquake and earth power. Love the moveset and design.
haughty needle
can u get an air balloon
last rampart
That was my elite four end game experience: earth power spam
quick kayak
I feel inclined to just refer to this pokemon as the "car-mon"
haughty needle
VrooMon
last rampart
How I managed to beat the League I will never know. I won, but still feel like I got lucky going in underleveled. My experience completing the final part of the titan story was similar with ground type attack spam.
heavy stone
I have no idea where it came from, but my Gallade randomly got the title of Reliable Partner in battle. Maybe there's a mark for winning a certain amount of battles with one Pokémon that gives it that title.
last rampart
Also, they went hard with nerfs this gen.
Edit: screw you autocorrect
last rampart
It seems Game Freak is doing balance changes more often to curb competitive issues. Aegislash was the first to get hit last generation.
haughty needle
oh yea, aegislash got nerfed. both its stats and king's shield
heavy stone
I still think Zamazenta should be able to learn King's Shield. It gets Body Press in Scarlet and Violet, at least.
brazen echo
Aegislash got nerfed again?
haughty needle
only once that i can recall
heavy stone
Only once. I think it was in Sword and Shield where it got nerfed, ironically.
I think the Protean nerf is just because of Terastallizing. I wouldn't be too surprised if it returned to its old way of working in later games.
haughty needle
crowned zamazenta's def dropped by 5 points
crowned zacians attack dropped by 20
heavy stone
I think it's -5 in both defenses and -10 Attack for Zamazenta, so it's still -20 in total like it is for Zacian.
haughty needle
ik tho i was focusing on their specialties
orchid solar
oh lord, shades of misty
last rampart
oh lord, shades of misty
orchid solar
In generation 1 when you went to challenge Misty she wasn't at her gym and you had to go find her. Here, the water gym leader has run off and you got to go give him his wallet
last rampart
Oh
How the heck did I forget Misty was a gym leader?!
I was thinking 
for some reason
haughty needle
same lmao
heavy stone
Weirdly, Misty was never a very memorable Gym Leader to me.
orchid solar
if it wasn't for the performance issues, this would be one of the best pokemon games
pure prairie
Magnemite/Magneton, Porygon, and Mewtwo come to mind
Yeah but at least those made sense in context.
last rampart
Greavard’s little dance is amazing
pure prairie
Porygon was a digital Pokémon. Mewtwo was cloned. Both of which are reasonably plausible.
“This car is a Pokémon” is just….
It feels like it’s trying too hard
last rampart
“This car is a Pokémon” is just…. <a:izzywhat:891381404741550130> <a:izzywhat:89...
Don’t get me started on the lawnmower it evolves from
last rampart
Why does varoom look like it’s desperately sucking the air? That’s just too cursed for me.
heavy stone
If you're referring to the Team Star vehicles, the car itself isn't a Pokémon. It's just powered by one like how your phone is powered by a Rotom.
last rampart
If you're referring to the Team Star vehicles, the car itself isn't a Pokémon. I...
Pretty sure it’s Revaroom in general.
pure prairie
Rotom is already morally horrifying, though.
last rampart
Rotom is already morally horrifying, though. <:rdwut:399725074204065802>
Morally?
orchid solar
I mean, voltorb is a pokeball
orchid solar
Rotom is already morally horrifying, though. <:rdwut:399725074204065802>
Rotom is a cellphone now
rotom is social media
#cursed
heavy stone
Some things in Pokémon, I think it's best to just not think about them too hard. Rotom can come out of devices that contain one whenever they want, so the devices are probably just enhanced by them and not required for them to function. They probably just come out when the thing isn't being used.
pure prairie
I mean, voltorb is a pokeball
Voltorb is a sphere that happens to look like one but it isn’t
last rampart
Also, voltorb explodes in the overworld now.
pure prairie
It could have been created that way but it’s left as a mystery
last rampart
They literally die in front of you. 
heavy stone
I always interpreted Explosion as just being a powerful energy blast that tires out its user too much for them to keep fighting. I think the move description was changed to suggest that at some point too.
pure prairie
Morally?
The thing is that people use Rotom to power everyday devices that otherwise don’t work without a Rotom. Which basically means people are enslaving Rotoms to run appliances.
last rampart
The thing is that people use Rotom to power everyday devices that otherwise don’...
Noted, will need to apply that as nightmare fuel.
last rampart
But on another note, no one talks about Voltorb exploding in the wild? Outside of encounters?
pure prairie
I always interpreted Explosion as just being a powerful energy blast that tires ...
That’s my interpretation too
last rampart
They always had the ability to explode. But I was wandering about, and outside of a battle, one just went boom, with nothing left to even speak of.
pure prairie
Just release all of their energy at once
rough sand
Maybe voltorbs are like ands and can be attracted to EM fields and warmth and stuff
A rotom ends up in your phone, and even if it leaves another one immediately enters it because comfy and warm.
rough sand
Gosh I can’t speak lol
heavy stone
That part of the gym battle was funny. I think the Ghost Gym Leader is the math teacher's sister or something.
last rampart
I posted a gif of it. Use it as you wish.
opaque skiff
Maybe voltorbs are like ands and can be attracted to EM fields and warmth and st...
One of Electrode's characteristics is its attraction to electricity. It is a problematical Pokémon that congregates mostly at electrical power plants to feed on electricity that has just been generated.
-Pokedex, Alpha Sapphire
rough sand
I was talking about why you’d expect a device to always have a Rotom in it, I have a migraine and can’t think straight lol
Not voltorb
opaque skiff
"Scarlet/Violet is a great Pokemon but a bad game"
last rampart
opaque skiff
I think it pretty much sums up the current state of the game
molten swallow
I'm enjoying all the exploration. The laggy walking of people is noticeable, but I haven't had too many huge issues.
orchid solar
TBH, I think the worst part of Scarlet/Violet isn't the performance issues, it's the fandom. If people focused their criticism on the actual substance of performance issues, it'd be fine, but they never do, it's somehow everything and everything that's at fault. Oh shops don't have interiors-- not that you ever used a shop's interior for anything in any generation. It's always been a menu, it's just a menu you have to access by going into a building and walking three or four tiles to activate. etc
pure prairie
"Scarlet/Violet is a great Pokemon but a bad game"
This is a pretty good summary
haughty needle
whats ur team?
molten swallow
I just caught a level 30 Arcanine, by far my highest level mon now.
And Marill evolved.
Gyarados helped a lot on that catch btw
I guess I have a level 28 Vespiquen too, but I am not sending that out against Arcanine ever.
"Why is this Pawmi a different color?"
"Wait, Pawmo?!"
I have 76 Pokemon now
quick kayak
TBH, I think the worst part of Scarlet/Violet isn't the performance issues, it's...
Hah, I wouldn't know, I've stayed away from the general fandom since SwSh
Such a volatile presence online since it's so god damn big
molten swallow
Lol, I have only one badge and no other quests done and 90 caught Pokemon in the Dex already.
Got two from evolving my spider and catching a Squakabilly
Pokemon hunting is amazing in this game.
heavy stone
I just finished the story, so I'll work towards completing the Pokédex now.
haughty needle
does this guy have an idol group 
orchid solar
Hah, I wouldn't know, I've stayed away from the general fandom since SwSh
you have no fucking clue. It's non stop toxicity.
It genuinely makes me enjoy the games less
pure prairie
This, 100%
The fandom has completely changed in recent years
It used to be wholesome as fuck
But the 3D game era made it flip upside-down
orchid solar
it turned out the third dimension was hate
pure prairie
tight owl
But the 3D game era made it flip upside-down
I have never tried gen 8 and 9, but the other 3d games were quite good imo
heavy stone
I think Sword and Shield were really good, honestly. The majority of the fandom definitely wouldn't agree with me on that.
Raids were really fun and all of the quality of life stuff added was really good.
pure prairie
IME the fandom absolutely loved gens 1-5, but 6-onwards have received nothing but endless hate on the games themselves and hate towards people who enjoy them and it has only gotten worse as the years went on.
SwSh were fine
I’m not big on the raids thing and would like it if they brought back Mega Evolutions, but that’s pretty much it from me
What's weird is that everyone wanted BDSP so badly and then we got them and suddenly the fandom felt insulted by their mere existence.
They were fine, ffs
IMO better than the mainline games we've gotten in recent years
orchid solar
the problem is that the fandom is morons
pure prairie
Indeed.
orchid solar
like, when they say a remake of diamond and pearl, what they actually mean is that they want Platinum
pure prairie
Yep. GF appears to have dropped the concept of third versions, but people keep griping/waiting for them
Also it seems like the fandom couldn't agree on whether it should be a 1:1 remake like what we got or just a whole reimagining of gen 4.
haughty needle
how was ORAS made? havent checked that out
pure prairie
It was made by GF
haughty needle
no I meant how was it made, a 1:1 recreation or a reimagined into smthn more different
heavy stone
I really liked BDSP. I'm glad I'm not alone in that.
pure prairie
Oh, it was roughly a 1:1 remake with new elements added.
orchid solar
well, the thing with the third version is that the first one, Yellow, was clearly meant to tie into the anime, but many of the third versions seemed to exist to test ideas that GF would later introduce, like gender in Crystal or the battle frontier in Generation 3, which probably was the test bed extensive post-game content that you see in in the 'fight area'/post-League routes
But a big part of the problem is that I don't think the fandom has ever really grasped that things it thinks are 'key' to the game rarely are. For example, the post game in general. I've almost never played a pokemon game past the post game. I like pokemon, I play pokemon, but after 10 to 20 hours of gameplay that consists of basically the same loop over and over, I'm done with it
Once you reach a certain level, like around 50s, there's basically nothing to look forward to. Pokemon don't evolve, and at most they might learn a new attack. At most.
rough sand
For me it’s not about the post game, I love collecting Pokémon. It was awesome being able to catch gen 1-3 Pokémon in X and Y, which IIRC had the largest completable dex in the series
I’d rather have a national dex and complete roster, and for Game Freak to continue building on a single mechanic like Mega Evolution
But line go up and TPC needs a new gimmick for each game, series, and card game set
I like Red and Firered. It didn’t have a ton of fancy stuff but I absolutely love it
orchid solar
And, as egotistical as it might be, I'm going to assume that my experience is probably not unique to the average pokemon player. Most people are probably going to reach the end of the game and just say 'well, that's it I guess' and be happy. So GF has little incentive to throw resources into a part of the game that most people will never actually use.
rough sand
I want a more balanced focus on the over world, story, and game mechanics than have 90% of it put in one spot like post game content
Like Scarlet/Violet has so many problems but it has a crazy amount of effort put into sandwich making mechanics
It can’t be easy to have to model, texture, and rig alternate versions for mega evolutions, z moves, or whatever the fuck they call it now
orchid solar
But the fandom can't seem to wrap their heads around the fact that most people playing pokemon, especially if they're kids, are not eager to spend 40 hours hatching eggs looking for the perfect IV/natured/etc pokemon. nor are they prone to continue playing the game through the post game content
rough sand
Yeah
orchid solar
The whole shop thing really gets me on this point, as is the 'houses you can go into' thing
yeah, GF has turned shops into a menu and you can't go into most houses
but you know what? Most houses were bloody well pointless anyway.
rough sand
It’d be cool to have things like Pokémon contests, secret bases, berry trees, etc and changing seasons, but at the end of the day I want to trade and battle. That’s it. I’ve never IV bred or anything like that
orchid solar
like, oh yeah break into someone's one room house which actually looks exactly like every other house interior and talk to the old man in the corner who tells you he really really likes pokemon and don't you? well, there's a good boy, have a rare candy
pure prairie
But the fandom can't seem to wrap their heads around the fact that most people p...
Indeed. Most players really couldn't be bothered to finish the PokéDex either.
rough sand
I still find that rewarding, especially when some of the games have world details like blurbs of text you can read, or books in libraries
I’ve never completed a Pokédex but it’s me wanting to be able to get the Pokémon I want, and not be told “Sorry, you can’t transfer your team from Pokémon Home. Maybe next game in 3 years.”
heavy stone
I think it's nice that there are so many deep and mechanically complex things in the games for the more dedicated fans, but the fandom really needs to learn that they aren't the target audience of Pokémon and that most players don't care about the same things they care about.
orchid solar
Indeed. Most players really couldn't be bothered to finish the PokéDex either.
one thing that gets me about dexit is that, unless I'm mistaken, GF had access to Pokemon bank and probably had statistics on just what was in those boxes and realized that most people either don't use the service at all, or they're not actually hauling around a complete pokedex from generation to generation
rough sand
That’s fair
orchid solar
(And, lo and behold here we are in SV and in fact they've clearly put a lot of work into pokemon animations just as they said)
pure prairie
Yeah, I have zero qualms about dexit
orchid solar
never have I seen such emotion from a motorcycle
rough sand
Something I feel bad for missing its just how interchangeable things were for a long time. You could take your Pokémon, and play with them in Stadium or other titles and transfer them from game to game
I was hoping that’s what Home would be but it’s not.
Imagine being able to capture Pokémon in Go or the main titles and transfer them between each other, or play in dedicated mobile titles like a mobile PokéPark
pure prairie
I love my little motorcycle jet dog friend
rough sand
Everyone knows Masuda is obsessed with smartphone gaming
orchid solar
but this is what I mean about the fandom being part of the problem. Last generation everyone criticized the games for being open world but empty and having no caves, and the animations, in the overworld, being weak at best. And the lack of story. Well, here we are, the open world is as open of a world you can get, there's at least one area that seems to exist solely to be tunnels, and the animations are hugely better
But, by god, none of that matters because shops are menus now and you can't ransack someone's house
The performances issues are real, let's not pretend they're not
And, if the fandom focused just on them, it'd be fine. But they don't.
rough sand
Am I expected to buy a game with significant performance problems and hope that Game Freak, Nintendo, and TPC learn their lessons and patch this, or that the next installments won’t be this bad?
orchid solar
One of the criticisms is, I shit you not, that pokemon are too small and you can accidentally run into them (especially in grass)
my brother in Arceus, that's literally the gameplay loop of pokemon from day one
rough sand
That part isn’t valid but some Pokémon are ridiculously tiny in the over world lol
pure prairie
The overworld Pokémon are about 1:1 to their dex entry information. I like that they're to scale.
rough sand
Yeah
pure prairie
People seem to forget how small a lot of Pokémon are.
orchid solar
(also they're tiny because they appear to be scaled their actual size. Pokemon have always been very small, Charizard is like, 5'7")
pure prairie
I did notice the issue of running into a Pokémon I didn't know was there, but as you say, that's the fucking gameplay loop.
It's not a real issue.
I'm just endlessly amused by Smolive.
Smol olive
What more can you possibly ask for
haughty needle
a Smoliv garden
heavy stone
Smoliv is funny. It has a really strong evolution too.
pure prairie
Seriously one of my favorite Pokémon from this game so far
pure prairie
a Smoliv garden
Smolive Garden: When you're here you're Smolive.
mint solar
i've always enjoyed post game in pokemon as it gives me a reason to raise multiple different pokemon, even if they're not perfect
orchid solar
I'm not saying no one enjoyed it, just that I doubt GF saw the sort of returns on that investment (so to speak) that would make it worth while
It might be more of a priority if pokemon fights were, for example, real time things where you controlled the pokemon directly and therefore skill came into play, whereas battles are largely the result of whoever moves first and hits the hardest automatically wins
It makes the gameplay loop rather boring because you end up spending more time loading in and out of it than actually battling, and at some point there's nothing new under the sun
heavy stone
I think breeding Pokémon is one of my favorite features in the games. I like raising them to be the best and strongest they can be.
mint solar
i'm still salty over dexit 
haughty needle
same
mint solar
one of the biggest draws for me back into gen 8 was "OH GOSH I CAN MEET ALL THE POKEMON I MISSED OUT ON"
then dexit happened
orchid solar
i'm still salty over dexit <:oops:530114420899315712>
they have a salt pokemon now, just for dexit. /s
mint solar
trust has been permanetly compromised due to them cutting Starmie out of SwSh's base game
either way i'm curious to see the trainwreck for myself in person, so i'll be getting it whenever denzy does
haughty needle
at least some of the glitches are amusing 
mint solar
i love glitches as long as they don't interfere with gameplay too much
watching characters t-pose or ascend out of reality is always amusing
heavy stone
They don't interfere with gameplay at all. They're just visual and don't even happen in the single player mode.
pure prairie
it is first and foremost a fun game that is probably the most interesting update to Pokémon as a game in a good long time. The biggest technical problem is the performance. The prominence of glitches is greatly exaggerated online.
mint solar
being able to run backwards and scale terrain you're not supposed to sounds way more than just visual
(honestly i'd just consider it a feature. i'd be a hypocrite if i were complaining about that specifically)
how many pokemon are available in SV anyway
heavy stone
I haven't seen anything about being able to run backwards, but it is true that you can jump backwards up some slopes to scale them before you get the ability to climb. It's very handy.
heavy stone
I know that's what you're referring to. That was just me agreeing.
mint solar
it's like start-stop sprinting up mountains in BOTW to get Link to stop climbing, just so you can squeeze out a tiny bit of a stamina wheel
pure prairie
how many pokemon are available in SV anyway
400
mint solar
that's it?
heavy stone
it's like start-stop sprinting up mountains in BOTW to get Link to stop climbing...
Yeah. That's what it reminded me of too.
haughty needle
how many mons did SwSh had
mint solar
400
pure prairie
The animation and model quality is really good.
mint solar
that's a disappointing number but i can't say i am surprised
haughty needle
yeah
mint solar
DLC is inevitible so I guess we'll see where the final number lands whenever they release it
haughty needle
seems like its the number theyre sticking with it seems so far
mint solar
i dont remember how many mons SwSh had after the DLC, just that it was 400 in the base game at launch
pure prairie
400 + 211 + 210 according to Serebii
heavy stone
400's not too bad. We have more than 1,000 Pokémon now, and that's more than a third of all of them. Some Pokémon getting axed was gonna have to happen eventually as the amount of them gets bigger and bigger.
pure prairie
Plus a few more
mint solar
is that base + isle of armor + crown tundra?
mint solar
damn i didn't know crown tundra added more
pure prairie
I didn't check for duplicates
mint solar
at least in that quantity
pure prairie
Just that's what the Pokédex is for each one
mint solar
i found isle of armor to be a bit lacking so i ended up ignoring the tundra
couldn't get excited over it
haughty needle
I didn't check for duplicates
was gonna say, 821 is almost the entire dex lol
pure prairie
Looks like there aren't any duplicates
821 + a few more appears to be the final count
821 + 68 = 889 appears to be the final count for SwSh.
So, you know, dexit is exceptionally overblown.
haughty needle
eh, still not a fan of it myself
mint solar
Wooloo is Pokemon #3 in the crown tundra dex
pure prairie
Ah so it is
Further checking online shows it's closer to 650
With 234 Pokémon excluded from SwSh
heavy stone
I didn't think that number seemed right either.
pure prairie
Yeah, having only a few dozen missing did feel off.
mint solar
~650 sounds closer to what I recall people talking about when the DLC was newer
But I don't recall specifics
orchid solar
pure prairie
Poor Cyndaquil. :<
haughty needle
at least it got a spotlight in Arceus
mint solar
is there a list of pokemon that are currently available in SV
pure prairie
I can only find a single list that lists the excluded Pokémon, not a comprehensive list of what's included.
Which is weird.
orchid solar
clodsire is such a dopey pokemon lol
pure prairie
LOOKIT HIM
heavy stone
Clodsire is funny. It's definitely one of the MVPs of my whole team.
mint solar
I hope so. Starmie is literally my #1 favorite Pokemon
it being excluded from the base game of SwSh was like a huge kick to the face
heavy stone
Clodsire and Gallade are like the glue that holds my team together.
pure prairie
Gallade is always an MVP
haughty needle
I like Starmie too, think its neat
pure prairie
Never thought too much about Starmie, but it is a pretty heavy hitter
mint solar
like i get that charizard is the real mascot and not pikachu
haughty needle
lmao what the fuck GF???
favoritism
mint solar
seeing it cut that way was extremely upsetting
orchid solar
sandwich time
heavy stone
Starmie is cool. I found a random shiny Staryu in one of my Alola game playthroughs, evolved it and named it Polaris.
pure prairie
I'll be in the same boat when they inevitably cut Riolu & Lucario from a Pokémon game.
mint solar
i'm glad it was added with DLC but it was annoying to have to wait
they will never cut lucario
haughty needle
I think so too
mint solar
that's their primary furry outlet
heavy stone
I feel like Lucario is too iconic to be cut from any games.
haughty needle
there seems to be some that they'll never axe, charizard, lucario, pikachu etc
mint solar
correct
haughty needle
eeveelutions too
mint solar
although i said the same thing about blastoise and venusaur
hell i said that about all of gen 1
yet, nothing seems sacred anymore so idfk
heavy stone
Eevee is like a secondary mascot, so I don't think it and its evolutions will ever go anywhere.
BDSP not having Sylveon is weird, though.
haughty needle
ig bc sylveon didnt exist in gen 4
pure prairie
Eevee is the real mascot of Pokémon. 
mint solar
maybe so but BDSP didn't need to be a pure 100% gen 4 game
haughty needle
at least not one specific eeveelution is given more attention then the rest
heavy stone
I think BDSP also should have had Regieleki and Regidrago.
mint solar
incorporating newer mechanics and features does not invalidate its status as a G4 remake
orchid solar
fuck these gyms I'm going after the sandwich
haughty needle
ORAS had megas so
mint solar
i could say a lot about BDSP but i've said everything that really needs to be said
pure prairie
maybe so but BDSP didn't need to be a pure 100% gen 4 game
It wasn't developed by Game Freak. I would bet serious money that ILCA was explicitly prohibited from adding anything.
mint solar
masuda was still on the dev team as a producer or consultant or something
which is just as bad imo
mint solar
BDSP was just... very disappointing
pure prairie
BDSP was pretty much what I wanted, so I'm happy with it.
Would've been nice to get new things like ORAS did, but whatever
heavy stone
I think basically any Pokémon that's a new addition to an older evolution line or a new member of a group of legendaries present in the original game would be fine to include in a remake. That's what Rescue Team DX did.
mint solar
My summary of BDSP amounts to "play Platinum"
I guess we'll see what happens. Despite being what it was, I still played a lot of SwSh and I'd be lying if I said I diddn't have fun with it
But like FoE I have a laundry list of caveats
orchid solar
sv has it's flaws, but when you're ||gliding on your bike and stop moving forward the legs swivel down to provide thrust to keep you in the air||
orchid solar
skeledirge's signature is something else
heavy stone
It's crazy broken. It's like Volcarona's Fiery Dance but 100 times better.
I don't plan on choosing Quaxly as my starter when I play through Violet, but its final evolution has a really strong signature move too when combined with its hidden ability.
opaque skiff
All three starters have very good signature moves
haughty needle
she really gon fight the mons herself huh
brazen echo
damn, kinda sad
kinda wanted nintendo to just sweep it under the rug
would've been funny
opaque skiff
It's so unfortunate that such article used repost twit
orchid solar
ah yes, the good old lie to get a refund scam.
mint solar
https://www.ggrecon.com/articles/nintendo-is-refunding-players-for-pokemon-scarl...
That is telling
Honestly this whole situation is embarrassing
haughty needle
what pokemon are those levels
orchid solar
a glimogoul and a garchomp
last rampart
I need more gimmighoul coins
orchid solar
boom baby. the whole garchomp line is in the dex without me doing a single bit of training
orchid solar
wow. when a foongus spots you, it bends down so its head is facing the camera... looks exactly like a pokeball item
quick kayak
Just finished Violet's main story
I think this is how I'd sum up my final thoughts on the game in its current state:
"I really liked this game, probably my favorite modern-era pokemon game. But god damn, I really wished they finished making it"
fast rivet
Haven't gotten very far yet, but hopefully get a good session in tonight.
But before that I have a bikeride home in the dark, cold, windy and rainy weather. 
I am very much looking forward to hiding under a blanket and just throwing pokeballs at everything.
stone rapids
LOOK WHAT I JUST CAUGHT! COMPLETELY RANDOM SHINY!
haughty needle
Blu duck
heavy stone
I haven't found any shinies yet, but I'm sure I will soon since I finished the story yesterday.
orchid solar
for me, the only real gameplay blemish on SV is the open world structure
they either need level scaling or a better guide to where to go and when
last rampart
Correct. I basically ran into a beef gate yesterday out of nowhere in an area that is LV30-40.
orchid solar
well some of that is clearly intentional
idk, level scaling in general is a hard cookie to crack. I'm not sure how much fun the games would be if wild pokemon you encounter in starting areas were suddenly on par with your badge numbers (which is, honestly, the only metric they could use to level scale by)
heavy stone
I just found a shiny Dunsparce. That's one of my favorites.
rough sand
Ninten-“We don’t do refunds for mistaken purchases”-do giving refunds
haughty needle
wild times we're living in
solid mountain
Meanwhile me on my first day of Go
haughty needle
damn lucky
solid mountain
i'm happier to have caught the Johto starters 
Cyndaquil my beloved
haughty needle
RIP ghos doge
orchid solar
half the gym leaders are chefs, the other half are trying to beat the hopes and dreams out of you
this car engine is turning into a vip
haughty needle
vroom vroom
orchid solar
lol
The hammer tops 220 pounds, yet it gets swung around easily by Tinkaton as it steals whatever it pleases and carries its plunder back home.
last rampart
```The hammer tops 220 pounds, yet it gets swung around easily by Tinkaton as it...
I like how this sounds like your typical borderlands/destiny player.
orchid solar
oh wow,
I go to fly over a team star base and it teleports me across the map to the entrence
aw they kicked me out
now it's personal >:|
haughty needle
last rampart
How many of us have done that? I know I have.
orchid solar
the ghost gym leader was really well done
last rampart
the ghost gym leader was really well done
Dancing greavard, that is all you need to see…
orchid solar
I'm about, oh, 80% through the story of the three paths and I'm honestly rather impressed. ||Alven and his doggo is very heart felt and I didn't expect pokemon to try and tackle school bullying of all things. I hope the boss is Hop. I know it isn't, but I hope it is.||
||Bai gawd that's Hop's music!!!||
sage cargo
Did any of you guys catch Arceus in BDSP?
pure prairie
I got to the Elite Four and stopped, sadly
sage cargo
Yea
Kind of bummed tbh
Arceus is one of my favourites but I won't be able to get them
Oh well
At least I can get Beedrill and Pikachu
Anyways if anypone wants to trade on BDSP with me when I make more progress that would be fun
pure prairie
Good to know! I may be interested
sage cargo
I started over because I stopped before the last gym for like 2 months lol
lost apex
i got legends on monday, on account of exasperated parents. "please just pick somethin for the damn holiday" 
ive been havin fun. it does glitch lightly occasionally for me, especially the ground texture (sometimes the ground just decides to boogie n shake in my vicinity 
), but the game loop is fun n the character writing is, better than i expected frankly
it feels like its more on the level of mystery dungeon games than mainline writin wise
then again i havent personally touched a mainline game for, what like four gens now?
3ds emulations still a bit wonky on pc n with switch i just. havent felt like it 
the spinoffs are fun, but with mains i just replay emerald or tweaked crystal occasionally
sage cargo
Aw I really like Let's Go and SwSh
lost apex
n good for ye! i aint sayin theyre bad. i simply havent bought swsh, n with lets go its my sister who actually bought the game (she likes it a lot, id wager its her favorite game for switch fullstop). i gave it a shot, but stopped like, 60% on the way?
not on account of anythin bad my attention span just flicked over to somethin else n i havent gotten around to finish it
.... n now my save data is wiped 
sage cargo
I see
haughty needle
Ha, Nebby
solid mountain
I think the Cosmog is a set encounter for the event but
i'mma count it
also add me on GO and spam me with gifts or something idk how this game works
5212 3461 0101
molten swallow
My Pokedex in Violet is already up to 169
orchid solar
press x on the pokedex screen to get rewards
sage cargo
I named my female Bidoof "doug"
solid mountain
JimmyHere reference???
heavy stone
My Pokédex in Scarlet is at 360 now. I just have 40 guys left to get.
sage cargo
JimmyHere reference???
Who
solid mountain
oh nvm i'm stupid
you said doug i thought you meant doogle
orchid solar
guys I have bad news, I tried to give my motorcycle a sandwich and now the shop tells me the engine's all gummed up. Why would pokemon lie to me like this?
molten swallow
So how do you do spoiler tags in Discord again?
orchid solar
Double | on both sides of the text
molten swallow
||I just caught a Ditto that didn't look like a Ditto on the field.||
With another Pokemon this kinda thing also happened and it's awesome lol.
heavy stone
I always thought that was a super cool way of encountering them.
molten swallow
Four gym badges now.
sage cargo
Is this a Star Wars reference or is my brainrot showing
opaque skiff
Official : Pokemon SV sold 10 million copies in 3 days
haughty needle
how does that compare to SwSh
opaque skiff
It is officially the record breaking sales among ALL SWITCH GAMES
Oh wait no, my bad
ALL NINTENDO EXCLUSIVE GAMES
Yes it's that well sold
brazen echo
🧎♂️
opaque skiff
***ALL NINTENDO EXCLUSIVE GAMES***
In history
haughty needle
:scootasad:
quick kayak
As much as I like Violet, they are basically getting rewarded for a huge technical failure
Also getting some breeding done now. First 5 IV for this game
sage cargo
What is an iv
sage cargo
I see
haughty needle
What is an iv
Stands for Individual Values. The more IVs a Pokemon has in a stat, ie attack, the more damage they do
sage cargo
That sounds boring
haughty needle
It's moreso something competitive players focus on rather than casual players really
sage cargo
I see
haughty needle
But yeah the option of breeding for "stronger" pokemon exists for those that are into that sorta thing
quick kayak
IVs/DVs have been part of the game since the start. The current implementation of them has been consistently the same since Gen 3
sage cargo
If they changed how IVs work do you think people would burn down Game Freak
quick kayak
Depends on what's changed
haughty needle
They didn't burn during dexit
quick kayak
Dexit I think would always be more controversial than something mostly competitive players would care about
sage cargo
No offense Dj
haughty needle
You into competitive Dj?
heavy stone
Breeding for good IVs used to be a huge pain, but it's much more accessible and less of a time sink now and one of my favorite features in Pokémon. I like breeding things that are in rare Poké Balls and have high stats to Wonder Trade them off to random people.
quick kayak
I play competitively (or at least play games at a casual high level) pretty often
I haven't played Pokemon ladders in a long time, not since Gen 6 ORAS era
haughty needle
Neat, I dabble a bit, on showdown really, but I'm not an expert in competitive since I still need to learn more
quick kayak
I'm pretty dang rusty (and was also not committed enough back then to be considered THAT high level anyway), but I'd be happy to talk some comp-talk whenever if you want some help
I still dunno how serious I'd want to take this gen, but I am avidly curious from the sidelines for now
haughty needle
Sure I'd keep that in mind. Pokemon competitive is overall interesting to me
Also if anyone here plays on showdown I'd like to know since I like playing there mostly
quick kayak
If I can help it, I usually prefer to play on the games themselves. But if I take Gen 9 more seriously I'll probably showdown a bit more too
Anyway now that I have a 5 IV Sprigatito, It'll be easier to get some surplus of 5 IV Sprig's if anyone wants any later
quick kayak
Breeding for good IVs used to be a huge pain, but it's much more accessible and ...
Also while true, it's still a pretty decent time-sink. Especially if you're starting from nothing and don't have a IV'd ditto
heavy stone
If anyone here has caught the ||Ruinous Pokémon|| in Scarlet and Violet, would they be willing to touch trade them to me just so I can register them in my Pokédex? I want to get the Shiny Charm but don't want to catch them just yet.
I know that probably sounds super fishy just because of how untrustworthy someone asking to borrow legendaries to register them in their Pokédex always sounds.
mint solar
hot take but I think pokemon would be better with an overhaul or removal of the IV/EV system
quick kayak
Noo
mint solar
IVs and breeding for them utterly torpedo'd my post game enjoyment of diamond
but i am also anti-competitive by nature
quick kayak
I mean if you're not competitive you don't really have to care about IVs
That's the thing
IVs only matter if you are really trying to min-max against an opponent also trying to min-max
mint solar
true but i also don't like my pokemon randomly being weaker for reasons completely outside my control
it doesn't feel good
quick kayak
Eh
mint solar
while we're at it, get rid of natures too. they're a bigger problem, in my opinion
quick kayak
From my casual perspective as well, I do think IVs help individualize pokemon more. As in, it emphasizes that no two pokemon are alike
pure prairie
*In history*
On one hand, good news for the game’s format.
On the other, that’s not a great message to send regarding the technical problems
mint solar
oh i get the reason why IVs exist, to help individualize the Pokemon
but i also don't think the indivudization it brings matters
haughty needle
What about removing IVs but keep EVs?
mint solar
it's never been an important aspect to me, and just generally gets in the way of gameplay
oh that's fine
EVs are way easier to wrangle
quick kayak
Personally I don't think I'd ever be on board for simplifying the underlying mechanics of Pokemon games
It's been like this since Gen 3 as well
It's just hard to imagine all of that getting abandoned and simplified when the core casual gameplay experience is still plenty simple and easy enough
heavy stone
Sun and Moon also made Hyper Training a thing, so the casual players who can't or don't want to breed for IVs can still have stats that are functionally perfect without having to do any of that.
heavy stone
It is. I don't know where the NPC for Hyper Training is in Scarlet and Violet, but the Bottle Caps you use for it are in the game.
opaque skiff
I think people say 5V instead of 5 IV
opaque skiff
I guess so it works if it delivers
quick kayak
Anyway, here's my extra 5 IV Sprigatito's if anyone wants to claim them
(First one is technically not 5 IV, but hey)
Fantastic just refers to the IV being 1 away from perfect
quick kayak
I'll refrain from using something like that for breeding. I've used someone's hacked IV ditto from wonder trade back in Gen 6 and it made things way too easy
quick kayak
And have it also be from a different region so you get auto-masuda method in breeding too
orchid solar
one bug I've noticed is pokemon getting too close during battles leading to a new battle immediately after the current one
sage cargo
Is the Ed Sheeran song good
orchid solar
?
heavy stone
The credits theme is an Ed Sheeran song called Celestial made just for the game.
orchid solar
I'll tell you when I get there I guess lol
heavy stone
I don't think it's too bad. It's not something I'd go out of my way to listen to, but it's a nice credits song.
orchid solar
yikes I thought my game was going to crash. random 5 second pause after a battle
odd star
Is scarlet and violet epic, I pre-ordered the double pack but canceled after I heard of the problems. But I thought about it and wanted to get it back because I feel like the glitches might make it even more fun. I usually find bugs and glitches funny(unless it soft locks you or corrupts your save) 
quick kayak
one bug I've noticed is pokemon getting too close during battles leading to a ne...
Idk if I'd classify this as a bug, but perhaps not a well thought out system for that scenario
quick kayak
Is scarlet and violet epic, I pre-ordered the double pack but canceled after I h...
It's a good game that's in its Alpha Build state
Best most concise way to summarize the game's current state
orchid solar
I wouldn't go that far. I've not seen any crashes yet
most of the performance problems are small delays and cosmetic stuff
heavy stone
I completed the entire story and almost the entire Pokédex and I haven't seen a single crash.
quick kayak
I wouldn't go that far. I've not seen any crashes yet
I would absolutely go that far with what I experienced
I enjoyed it, but the game is not finished
Even if I didn't crash or softlock, the persistant technical quirks with the game makes it clear the game is just not done but had to get released to meet a deadline
odd star
Sounds great enough to try, I saw that gamefreak is accepting refunds too, so if I somehow don't like the game I can do that.
I do want to try out the glitch where your trainer can teleport if you battle wild pokemon in certain spots, potential speedrun tactics
heavy stone
There weren't any softlocks in my experience. Fast travel makes it practically impossible to get stuck anywhere.
quick kayak
There weren't any softlocks in my experience. Fast travel makes it practically i...
Unless you get stuck in a loading screen
odd star
Yeah, I also watched a video of someone who got stuck with the legendary motorcycle mon, the game forces you out of the problem eventually
heavy stone
Unless you get stuck in a loading screen
Is that a thing that can happen? I've never experienced that myself or seen it happen to anyone else.
quick kayak
Is that a thing that can happen? I've never experienced that myself or seen it h...
4:58:16
Yes
It's as good as a hard crash without a hard crash
The game was clearly still running, just never finished loading even after minutes of waiting
odd star
heavy stone
That must be something super rare, then. I've never even heard of that happening.
odd star
I want to finish this sad shiny hunt I've been trying for around 9 years in BW2, it's for a shiny Kyruem because it's 3 shinies in 1, my friends irl still joke about it with me because this ice dragon has been bullying me
Im doing full odds of 1/8192 with no shiny charm and I regret it a little
haughty needle
Is the Ed Sheeran song good
havent heard it, but I did hear about how the 1st SV mod was about removing the song
rough sand
it shouldn't be crashing or glitching like this in the first place
sage cargo
havent heard it, but I did hear about how the 1st SV mod was about removing the ...
Why
haughty needle
ig the modder really didnt like that song
odd star
Also I managed to get the trainer ID guaranteed shiny Pokemon glitch to work, took about 2 hours to get the timing right. I can only get female shiny pokemon with the ID group I have. Its a bit complicated to explain
I messed up in the beginning to trigger a shiny starter but there is no way I'm restarting
It's the cute charm glitch
rare fog
oh my boyfriend's done the cute charm glitch before
he gave me some shinies for my own diamond playthrough (as a jokey playthrough i guesS?) and one of the shinies was a shiny gastly. then when i got the pokemon tower near solaceon (?) i happened to find a full odds shiny gastly
so i had two shiny gastlys somehow
mint solar
I guess I just never found IVs to be fun or engaging. It was too much of an emphasis on raw numbers, and it's hard to ignore now that you've seen how the sausage is made
Mmm question
What do the final forms of the starters look like
haughty needle
pure prairie
Weed cat is best
odd star
I like Fuecoco's the most
Do you guys like the gen 9 pokemon designs, I only saw a handful of them and I like them
sage cargo
I listened to the Ed Sheeran song and omg I love it
quick kayak
Grass start line overall is good imo
was never too big on the fire starter designs
neutral on water
sage cargo
I will never forgive Game Freak for making the perfect little cinnamon roll that is Rowllet and then his evolutions are terrible
haughty needle
i think rowlet and decidueye are good, dartrix is mid imo
haughty needle
i kinda like meowscarada, skeledirge is also pretty good. do not like ququaval much tho
but overall, i think i like the gen 9 starters more than the gen 8, as i dont really like any of the final evos there tbh
odd star
I loved the gen 8 mons
sage cargo
Imo Gen 1 and Gen 5 had the best starters
odd star
Time for me to list my favorite starter line for each gen
sage cargo
Do it coward
haughty needle
gen 5 starters are great
pignite is the only one im not a fan of
odd star
Squirtle, Totodile, Treecko, Turtwig, Snivy, Froakie, Litten, Sobble and Fuecoco
Gen 4 and 3 I like every starter almost equally
sage cargo
gen 5 starters are great
pignite is the only one im not a fan of
Banned
haughty needle
Bulbasaur, Chikorita, Mudkip, Piplup, Snivy, Fennekin, Popplio, Scorbunny, Sprigatito
gen 3 is the only gen where i almost like all the same, but the mudkip line inches more
odd star
Look at these epic designs
Gen 5 is my favorite generation though, I was surprised to learn that BW2 had the worst sales for the mainline games
haughty needle
I like the piplup/turtwig lines but I'm not super into the chimchar line, not that i dislike it
odd star
The chimchar line is based off of Son Goku from the story "Journey to the West"
opaque skiff
Yes Kakarot
haughty needle
I am aware, its pretty cool in that regard
odd star
Bulbasaur, Chikorita, Mudkip, Piplup, Snivy, Fennekin, Popplio, Scorbunny, Sprig...
One of the few I know who likes Chikorita
haughty needle
lol
sage cargo
Look at these epic designs
I don't like the monkey but the others are top tier
haughty needle
chikorita and bayleef, but meganium could be better
opaque skiff
megameganium
odd star
Don't forget about the beta design of Bayleef
odd star
I always saw a sentret + sunflora hybrid
haughty needle
oh yea whats yall fave starters
mine is the snivy line which is also my overall favorite pokemon
odd star
That's a hard one to answer
Might have to choose Turtwig because you can make a small camp on top of Torterra and sleep on it
odd star
Tell us why 
haughty needle
cap whats ur fave starter pokemon
haughty needle
odd star
That is indeed a starter in two games
odd star
The pokemon yellow intro is still stuck in my head
sage cargo
Surfing Pikachu!!!!!!
odd star
I always laugh whenever I see balloon Pikachu
sage cargo
If Surfing Pikachu doesn't bring you joy you have no soul
sage cargo
Where do I gain access to Grand Underground in Brillint Diamond
odd star
In Pokemon Go, it still looks goofy and I love it
sage cargo
I LOVE HIM
haughty needle
electric/flying
or just electric with levitate
whichever suits ur fancy
quick kayak
Charmander,
Cyndaquil,
All of them,
Piplup,
None of them..? (Samurott is fine I guess),
Froakie,
Rowlett,
Scorbunny,
Sprigatito
Those would be my favorite starters per gen, from the topic from earlier
odd star
Gen 5 
sage cargo
penguin is about to utterly wreck Roark
haughty needle
RIP roark
opaque skiff
Nobody loves Quaxly, it is blatantly true /j
sage cargo
Just gonna spam Water Gun
haughty needle
quaxly is fine, but im not really big on its evos
odd star
My friend chose Quaxly and she said she regrets it
pure prairie
Do you guys like the gen 9 pokemon designs, I only saw a handful of them and I l...
I think I like them better than gens 6-8
haughty needle
i think Tinkaton is one of my faves of gen 9
but imma see if my opinions will change over time on the rest
quick kayak
I feel like there's always a slight burst of negative thoughts on the final evos of the starters once the game releases or leaks, but fades away after a couple months, if not shorter
haughty needle
idk I'm still not too keen on the gen 8 starters still
quick kayak
Fair, I mean I'm still miffed to this day that I never ended up liking any of the Gen 5 starters
I've only warmed up to the Samurott line since then, but still not my top picks
haughty needle
oh no
sage cargo
His Cranidos wiped my team
haughty needle
F
quick kayak
Didn't hit water gun hard enough
sage cargo
Even my beefy Bidoof doug didn't stand a chance
haughty needle
water doesnt resist rock
sage cargo
What does Zubat evolve into
haughty needle
golbat
sage cargo
What does Golbat evolve into
haughty needle
crobat
sage cargo
What does Crobat look like
quick kayak
Menacing
rare fog
purple
quick kayak
While Golbat is just a goofball
sage cargo
Oh I love him
sage cargo
This is kinda creepy ngl
haughty needle
quick kayak
FBI OPEN UP
haughty needle
call officer jenny
odd star
Why did they add that to the game 
sage cargo
I forget can I dress up my character
odd star
I don't think so in bdsp
quick kayak
I think if you got the game at launch you'd have access to the Platinum version outfits
hmmm
Actually yeah there's more than that too
later in the game tho
you'll see it at some point, it wasn't in the original DPP versions
sage cargo
I preordered this game iirc
quick kayak
I preordered this game iirc
You would've had to done a Mystery Gift event around launch time
it's definitely too late now
Unless you hack your Switch
odd star
My character is always boring, I keep them in their default outfit
haughty needle
I like the default look of a lot of the player characters
odd star
Same
sage cargo
it's definitely too late now
Literally sobbing
sage cargo
~~Unless you hack your Switch~~
I will be shot by Nintendo Snipers
haughty needle
my fave being Rosa from B2W2
odd star
I made a pokemon protag tier list a while ago and now I cant find it
haughty needle
rip
odd star
They have something similar
sage cargo
Sonichu
haughty needle
I made a pokemon protag tier list a while ago and now I cant find it
i rank the girl player characters rn
odd star
Do it
Why not the dudes too
Also for rosa, she is 1 tier under the rest of the unova protagonists for me
haughty needle
not overly familiar with the dudes
Rosa Serena Dawn Selene Leaf Hilda May Gloria Julianna Lyra Kris
something like that
odd star
I put her low too
odd star
haughty needle
tbf gloria has grown on me
opaque skiff
sage cargo
Gloria is best
haughty needle
love the thinking confused look she has
opaque skiff
I don't even know their English names so
haughty needle
oh yeah Elaine, she'll be like above Julianna
sage cargo
Which one is Elaine
haughty needle
for the boys, i like the designs of Hilbert and Calem the most
sage cargo
Oooh
sage cargo
That's literally my favourite Pokémon game how did I not know that
haughty needle
odd star
I made this fast so it isn't too accurate, I dont have a bad tier because I still like all of the designs
I do like Victor and Glorias snow outfits
haughty needle
Victor is one of my least fave player designs
sage cargo
Gloria slander will not be tolerated 
haughty needle
again, at first i was kinda eh on her, but i quite like her a bit now
sage cargo
BW female protag is 👌
odd star
Shes in B tier, I dont go below that || Maybe the usum and sv protags will be in C tier 
||
opaque skiff
Me : I don't care male protag
haughty needle
Shes in B tier, I dont go below that || Maybe the usum and sv protags will be in...
keep forgetting USUM Selene exists. I much prefer SM Selene so i understand lol
haughty needle
Me : I don't care male protag
mood, the female protags look more intersting generally
odd star
Me : I don't care male protag
Yeh, I always go with the male option even though the female protags looks epic too
opaque skiff
I never played male protag
haughty needle
also mood
opaque skiff
tbf I almost always plays as a female character for most of the game
Unless it's genderlocked
odd star
I always choose the dude
haughty needle
I always choose the dude
you always choose the big lebowski
opaque skiff
I actually don't even remember how many time I chose a male character over a female character if I had a choice
Very rare
odd star
you always choose the big lebowski <:rdwut:399725074204065802>
It's radical and tubular my dudeski 
haughty needle
much tubular
opaque skiff
Oh I think I chose Stallion for Ponytown I think, although I rarely even used it
haughty needle
everytime i think of tubular, i think of that super mario world level
opaque skiff
haughty needle
for ponytown, I got for my mane OC, who's a mare
odd star
Poke ocs is something I don't hear about much
Technically, in the games where you can customize your character those are ocs 
sage cargo
I was going to ask a Pokémon question but it was naughty
odd star
quick kayak
oh
sage cargo
Do you think people have married Pokémon
sage cargo
What
quick kayak
Technically true according to G4 lore
sage cargo
What
haughty needle
yep
quick kayak
odd star
I remember from the anime yeh
sage cargo
Gonna need to see some proof
odd star
It was me, I married a Magnezone
sage cargo
Whoa
opaque skiff
"Sinnoh Folk Story 3"
There once were Pokémon that became very close to humans.
There once were humans and Pokémon that ate together at the same table.
It was a time when there existed no differences to distinguish the two.
sage cargo
So like are Pokémon capable of human thought
opaque skiff
So this is the thing; they changed the translation
odd star
Yeh usually psychic pokemon
opaque skiff
Because apparently they thought Pokemon and Human marrying is very inappropriate
haughty needle
I always assumed that pokemon understood human language
theres also psychioc types
odd star
Like alakazam
opaque skiff
In the literal translation of Sinnoh Folk Story 3, the myth originally referred to Pokémon and people marrying each other.
haughty needle
who has 1000+ IQ
sage cargo
Yeh usually psychic pokemon
So if Pokémon were real I could marry a Gardevoir???
haughty needle
yes
quick kayak
Oh boy here we go
sage cargo
Holy shit
sage cargo
Yeah
quick kayak
So if Pokémon were real I could marry a Gardevoir???
Male of Female Gardevoir?
sage cargo
I'm bisexual
quick kayak
Fair
sage cargo
Lmao
rare fog
depends on the gardevoir's nature
haughty needle
||naughty||
opaque skiff
There is a famous fan theory that Ash has kissed a Pokemon
haughty needle
Latias?
sage cargo
What
pure prairie
Yeah, Latias
haughty needle
at the end of that latios and latias movie iirc
pure prairie
Correct
odd star
So if Pokémon were real I could marry a Gardevoir???
Yeh, but that's an F tier option. Probopass is the real deal 
sage cargo
They smooched????
pure prairie
It was pretty unambiguous
quick kayak
Yeh, but that's an F tier option. Probopass is the real deal <:Need_A_Hand:10361...
Pffffffffff
sage cargo
That is a pretty nice stache
opaque skiff
quick kayak
(The human is latias in disguise)
odd star
Oh my
quick kayak
Ash gets too many kisses
haughty needle
oh
sage cargo
I see people thirsting over Machamp on Twitter a lot
pure prairie
Ash hasn’t lived until he kisses a Gardevoir
haughty needle
not an early anime thing
in the sun and moon anime i beleive James' mareanie dreampt of marrying him
odd star
There was the moment where Ash's chikorita yeeted Pikachu from the bed so she can sleep beside Ash
opaque skiff
Nothing canon, but whatever
haughty needle
pure prairie
Nothing canon, but they do have a habit of crossdressing. Probably just a joke.
pure prairie
They tend to behave as if they’re genderfluid if you squint hard enough.
opaque skiff
Don't try too hard to squeeze queer fan theory from an Anime, especially older ones
It's...hard
They're definitely not like western shows
haughty needle
There was that trans lady in XY
yeah, something about being a karate king before, then commenting on the power of modern science/medicine
sage cargo
Yeah
odd star
I want the oras costume pikachu to return
sage cargo
She was a Black Belt
quick kayak
There's a Gym Trainer in Scarlet/Violet that I was surprised to learn officially Male despite their appearance. Kinda curious to learn more about them 🤔
opaque skiff
The ice one?
quick kayak
Ye
sage cargo
Goals tbh
opaque skiff
He got confused a lot since the trailer
sage cargo
Can't believe I'm getting gender envy from a png smh
opaque skiff
Fun fact is that JP/KR are kinda open to transgenders actually, but the problem is most of people there think transgender only means who biologically changed their sex
pure prairie
I expect the English text is very different from the Japanese text.
odd star
Sun and moon, I didnt go past the first trial captain
opaque skiff
When people say "I feel like I am a woman" they don't really get it, but they get it when people actually gets surgery
sage cargo
I see
quick kayak
So this was a conversation that happened
quick kayak
opaque skiff
sage cargo
Hey guys don't search fat pikachu in the gifs tab
opaque skiff
So this is the original text
odd star
Hey guys don't search fat pikachu in the gifs tab
Alright, I'll do it
haughty needle
opaque skiff
"Half years before, (I was) a Karate King. Medical technologies are amazing, isn't it?"
It kinda implies, but not really very straightforward
sage cargo
Trans queen
opaque skiff
But as I said
odd star
Guys, I am a second opinion on the matter of searching fat pikachu on the gif tab and can confirm it's not a good idea
opaque skiff
"The ones who got surgery" is what they usually think when people say "transgender"
Thus having "medical tech" in the sentence
Which is totally skipped during translation
opaque skiff
One thing is that there is a debate around it
Which is "does she mean she was he before, or does she mean she was just a bulky athlete and then removed her muscles by surgery"
Kinda makes sense
Both way
sage cargo
That second one is a stretch imo
odd star
Yeah it's most likely the first option
haughty needle
sage cargo
He
quick kayak
What is the best Pokémon and why is it Fat Pikachu
odd star
What is the best Pokémon and why is it Fat Pikachu
Because
sage cargo
Why did they slim him down
haughty needle
lost weight ig
sage cargo
Basketball shape
haughty needle
I'd wager they wanted to emphasize on pikachu being nimble and quick
odd star
I remember watching a video about Pikachu's drastic design change and it was because merchandise reasons, it was easier for them to make merch out of slim pikachu than fat pikachu for some reason
sage cargo
Damn
odd star
And that made me big sad
quick kayak
I always figured it was just marketability in general at the time
haughty needle
tfw when being fat isnt merchandisable
look at the bright side
at least fat pikachu is still in the old anime and theyre not editing the old episodes
odd star
haughty needle
meanwhile theyre gaslighting us into thinking ash-greninja didnt happen
sage cargo
Guys watch this video
https://youtu.be/Fp2W_7ph4wY
sage cargo
meanwhile theyre gaslighting us into thinking ash-greninja didnt happen <:ppenk:...
What's up with Ash Greninja
odd star
That kalos league championships hurt me when charizard whipped and nae naed ash greninja and won
haughty needle
What's up with Ash Greninja
IIRC there was an episode in pokemon journeys (the gen 8 one) that showed a flashback of a scene from the XY anime, where greninja was in his ash-greninja form, but they reanimated the scene so he was a regular greninja in journeys
also changing the ability "battle bond" so it doesnt transform greninja into ash-greninja in the games, so theyre kinda axing ash-greninja in the games too