Even if I did copy paste it 90% of the time, I still sometimes would go over the whole tree for the fun of it and play around with it.
#World of Warcraft
elfin steeple
atomic sonnet
Oh yeah, definitely. Mechanics, gameplay, overall gigantic improvements over the Dark Times ™️ . Narrative needs work, but that's hopefully on the horizon
elfin steeple
Oh, leveling as a new player is still abysmal though. I tried bringing friends in and they weren't having it.
100% hands down one of the actual worst things about the game.
It's so disjointed and confusing
Having DF as the base moving forward might help a bit, but I'm not sure.
...ya know, naming an expansion "Midnight" might end up biting them in the ass if it turns out bad.
We can make the "minutes to Midnight" joke leading up to the expansion, and if it actually turns out to be doom and gloom, oof.
grizzled parcel
Leveling is fun for 10 levels or so, then I just... blah
Honestly, I think when the open Dragonflight to being the new default leveling experience, that'll make it a bit more interesting to me. But before then... ugh.
elfin steeple
"Oh hey, it's timewalking week." Goes from 10-70 from that instead.
DF is only fun to level in once, it's big and has a lot, so you'll want to skip it the second time around.
Definitely still better overall.
I'm honestly starting to get to the point where I'd prefer if expansions forego the new level caps.
If people want to hop right into dungeons, why not. The questing can instead be around to unlock fun cosmetics and other stuff, not just a slog that has hit or miss lore tidbits and slaps you with 20 gold for completing.
I'm sure that's a controversal take though, but I'm soooooo tired of "do 250-300 quests just to get to max level, getting new green gear and some blue gear for completing a zone that immediately gets replaced by doing a few max-level dungeons."
"Oh hey, we hear you're tired of doing quests/Timewalking on your 5th alt because our leveling system is complete shit loud and clear so here's a new level boost for $60 that's available halfway through the expansion!"
elfin steeple
Well, I suppose I took a good time to take a break, as I'm sure had I continued I would be in the low 30's and would probably bang my head on the table after reading this.
Meanwhile everyone else who just got to 40:
Interesting announcements all around. They're planning to do some itemization reworks for endgame (raids and dungeons), add new items, Molten Core is going to be a 20-man raid. They're planning on having 40-man raids at some point (probably BWL and onward) and they're going to have the 20-man raids not be far in terms of ilvl/power from the 40-man ones so they can appease guilds and groups who only want to tackle smaller group content.
They mentioned several times that this is all happening on a really fast-paced schedule, so I don't think we're getting any new raids for level 60 this season. But who knows what doors this season will open for the future?
Raid difficulty is going to be adjusted too, I'd assume mostly in the damage/health department, but maybe they'll throw in a curveball or two?
But yeah, it does seem to me that the current 10-man dungeon, as well as possibly the 20-man dungeon at level 50 are going to be seen as more challenging than the first 2 (MC & BWL), possibly 3 (AQ40) raids of the endgame if they make no mechanics changes.
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atomic sonnet
Seems like another ddos 
atomic sonnet
atomic sonnet
Did a quick +13 on my pally go give the axe a whirl and get some crests and... yeah. the group lead was the feral druid and he'd just got mythics unlocked the day before so he was severely undergeared
Geared DK was dragging his warlock friend through it aaaand then there's me
squint
Huh, i still had vault rewards. Just lfr and timewalking stuff though
elfin steeple
If you did it in green gear, with 4pce and the lego you'd still be doing more than the dk. Paladin is absolutely insane right now.
atomic sonnet
Eh I dunno, that's overall. He had some pretty hefty aoe pulls
It would maybe be neck and neck, i'd guess
Oh, right, the last boss buff
atomic sonnet
Copy FF14, SWTOR and Wildstar
elfin steeple
SWTOR has player... huh. I suppose it does, doesn't it? I rarely hear that one being brought up for that.
Wildstar and FF14 for sure
atomic sonnet
I mean, I'd know about swtor 
elfin steeple
The FF14 specific set locations with different layers is probably the easier route for them to go down.
Grizzly Hills would be one
Bastion maybe? I know they'd be hesistant about SL areas, but Bastion is gorgeous.
And definitely one zone in the new expansion
elfin steeple
Omg, yesssssssssss.
I'd like Storm Peaks but I know they'd never do that.
I'll settle for Sholazar Basin/Grizzly Hills
They need guild player housing too
like FF14
I wish I liked the combat in FF14, but that's the one thing that kept me from continuing.
Professions, housing, and story carried me as far as it did.
atomic sonnet
All of swtor's strongholds can be used as guild housing
elfin steeple
That's pretty nice
atomic sonnet
Also a guild ship
elfin steeple
They need to make feat of strength trophies as décor.
atomic sonnet
Swtorista is pretty much the wowhead of swtor (well not exactly but easily the biggest content creator)
elfin steeple
Okayyyyyyyyyy, they have a theatre that you can stream from Discord/OBS. That's pretty insane.
I've seen that done in GMOD
atomic sonnet
a home in a pandaria zone would be nice too
elfin steeple
Imagine being able to house anywhere. I know that's completely unrealistic and would be insanely difficult to do, but imagine.
"Yes, my house is ICC. Yes, it's literally ICC."
Kicks the Lich King off the platform and down into the saronite spikes.
"It's pretty chill, I've got a teleportation system throughout it and the Argent Dawn give complimentary tier 10 gear in the foyer as you enter."
atomic sonnet
Not me
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
That's a lot of orange.
I'm sure they all immediately grouped up after to do Emerald Dream stuff
I wonder how the bad luck protection is going to work in season 4 with the fated difficulty.
And whether or not that takes precedence over the other difficulties. Like, if you did it on fated, and then on mythic, would mythic have it's own separate bad luck protection, or would fated take over that and be the highest chance at it?
And then there's the fact that the raids are on rotation (presumably)... So you do farm off weeks on heroic/mythic still and fated on the on weeks?
And if they're letting people buy the armor/weapons they want, will they let people buy the legendary quests?
grizzled parcel
atomic sonnet
...I swear you could already make that with mostly DH pieces
grizzled parcel
Twitter
atomic sonnet
I mean, they did say it would happen. A year's fair enough, imo
grizzled parcel
mhm
atomic sonnet
tulip badger
Check out my new WoW video its about Warsong Gulch https://youtu.be/5vLppuoWOaM
elfin steeple
You're playing a warrior this season!? You're braver than most.
I applied to some guild over a month ago, and now I get a message from them after going on hiatus. Love it.
tulip badger
Warrior has always been the most fun class in classic
elfin steeple
For classic? Probably. For SoD? Debatable.
tulip badger
are you playing
theres a lot of unwarranted crying about the class
dont really think theres anything more fun even with runes but I obviously havent tried half of the classes
yet!
elfin steeple
I've mostly heard that's due to excessive armor on Gnomer bosses, making ranged specs more wanted primarily in pugs and melee having a harder time getting into groups.
Then again, it's just silly asking people to be 6/6 and show logs in classic, let alone a level 40 raid lol.
I've gotten into heroic raids in retail easier
elfin steeple
yeah, I think it's just mainly pugs making it not fun
if you have a good group you're with I'm sure it's great
tulip badger
If I clear 4/6 and have to get rid of someone for the last 2 I cant replace them, its a 9 man raid now
thats why you invite people with proof that they can clear it
elfin steeple
Ehh, I guess. Makes it suck-y to play when you're constantly denied because you haven't done an easy raid yet in classic, the game that's supposed to be a chill alternative to retail.
And I suppose it depends on who leaves after 4/6 because you could definitely replace a dps no problem for the last couple. A healer? Probably not.
Healers are in short supply :X
tulip badger
dont think anyone wants to get locked to a 4/6 even a dps
because that group is advertising "we couldnt kill the 5th boss join us and get saved"
elfin steeple
It depends on when the lockout is reseting, that's why it's best to do it the day before.
And I guess because people have been anal about having experience, you're more likely to get someone without experience to join just to get that last couple boss experience they need to join future groups
Tbh, screw pugs, embrace solid guild groups.
Also, to answer your initial question I'm on hiatus from SoD/Retail atm. I have played a bit, and I'll probably come back on the 5th to speed level.
Been playing Stardew :X
Priest is pretty fun, and is the one class I've tried so far.
I like the player interactions with other priests to obtain special buffs to unlock new runes.
tulip badger
i dont think you will have any trouble finding groups as a priest hehe
atomic sonnet
Apart from the landscape design being very clearly outdated,, dragonflying in storm peaks feels awesome
elfin steeple
atomic sonnet
🫡
grizzled parcel
Last words: "I got it! I got it!"
atomic sonnet
Doing the trading post stuff.. 50 quests, level to 10, so i'm doing the starting experience thing as a worgen. No one will know I am a horde main
👀
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
I like the transmog. Outside of the helm and shoulders it looks like something from Monster Hunter.
atomic sonnet
It's actually just the default appearance of the heirloom leveling gear
Herod's shoulder and i forget the helm's name
elfin steeple
I uh, meant the Horde Slayer person, but yours is nice too! :<
atomic sonnet
Ooh
That's a pally set
I want to say, firelands? Mixed with the pants part of that phoenix set on the shop
elfin steeple
Ooh, dang it. Those pants are nice too. Was hoping you could snag them in-game.
atomic sonnet
Hm, maybe not pally, though i could swear it was them
Ah no it is
Battleplate of immolation
elfin steeple
elfin steeple
I'd only want the pants, boots and gloves xD
atomic sonnet
Nice. Only did a 20 on pally from a streamer and nothing else on any char this week. Great ring upgrade
elfin steeple
heck yeah!
atomic sonnet
tulip badger
but im 60
atomic sonnet
So give them some gray hairs
atomic sonnet
https://www.lookingforclass.com/ this is a neat randomizer
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
Imagine we get a basic start of player housing in 10.2.6. Keeping something like that quiet would definitely make the silence and wait worth it.
But realistically it'll be some event thing. New cosmetics, mounts, pets and toys.
Maybe a couple nice evergreen features
grizzled parcel
I still have no idea why people are interested in player housing.
I mean, in a game like Fallout 76 it makes sense: anyone can walk in, take a look around, and even buy stuff from your personal vendor.
In WoW... that's not going to happen. There's too many people on a server for that, it'd get instanced, and we're right back to the Garrisons problem.
elfin steeple
Yeah, they'd probably take the FF14 approach where it's instanced by layers and people on those layers can see each other's homes.
And people can go on whatever layer they want by selecting the number associated with it, or if they're invited by someone on that layer.
grizzled parcel
Yeah, the other problem is that they'd need moderators who can inspect the homes and deal with ones that break the rules. Stuff like building swastikas, etc. I don't think Blizz wants to deal with that.
elfin steeple
As for why people want it? Lots of customization options, good goldsink, and people want to show off their collection and feel good about it.
Uh, I think they wouldn't allow people to make their own stuff, they'd only have access to what Blizzard gives them.
grizzled parcel
Sure, people want it. It's a great feature in F76. But I think that's the kind of environment people are expecting, when the reality is that Bliz would only be able to implement Garrisons 2.0 with a few extra customizations.
grizzled parcel
Uh, I think they wouldn't allow people to make their own stuff, they'd only have...
That's the problem. If it's barely customizable, people will be mad it's just a new Garrison. If it's very customizable, people will find ways to abuse the design.
elfin steeple
Other MMO's have struck a good balance for that and haven't had a lot of complaints/issues like that as far as I know.
I imagine painting your home, adding furniture and décor will do a lot already.
The homes themselves will probably already be done, but you can mess with the interior a bit.
Also, it would make for some easy new profession additions that have a lot of gold making potential and fun as players go searching for new beds to craft.
Being able to move around furniture and stuff to whereever you want in your home is already going to do a lot more than what garrisons were capable of
Anyway, if they do it and lock purple drapes behind a new mythic raid final boss I'm going to scream.
atomic sonnet
Imagine we get a basic start of player housing in 10.2.6. Keeping something like...
Can't have that, Taliesin would be insufferably smug at being right
Masque: gold sink, great fun to customize your own space (or guild space, if they do that) and showoff design skill. Some SWTOR places are seriously impressive looking, for example. Plus it allows for a game market that isn't 100% tied to player power - so it can be as rare or as hard to get as blizz wishes, and if you end up being the only one on the server that can craft a simple decoration... good for you. It's not balance-breaking like say, Lariat was since that's power related
As for the swastika type decorations... in the privacy of their own place, let them be as stupid as they want. They invite others or show it off, they run the risk of being reported and that would be swiftly actioned
atomic sonnet
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
...That's weird. Another server I'm on started sharing the original origin memes of that with Star Wars yesterday.
atomic sonnet
They popped up about a day or two ago yes
And now i've seen these other memes spreading out
grizzled parcel
atomic sonnet
😇
masque: for some context: https://vxtwitter.com/heyitswindy/status/1764023423485812995
atomic sonnet
Noice. Not enough folk showed up for a mythic raid, so the folk who did turn up did heroic instead. Went with my pally, got two armor pieces that i've catalyst'd (helm and legs) and also cataclysmic signet
elfin steeple
Nice!
atomic sonnet
And i feel like i'm doing more consistent high dps with pally than my dh
elfin steeple
Probably because you don't need to dance around a lot and constantly have to worry whether or not you'll get yourself killed by using eyebeam
atomic sonnet
indeed
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
grizzled parcel
elfin steeple
Time to speedrun and dip until season 4
From what I understand the event was a bit buggy on the EU realms and wasn't showing when/where the mini-bosses were.
grizzled parcel
Yeah, from what I can tell by reading, it's fairly badly bugged. It apparently rotates between Valdrakken & Stormwind/Org at the top of each hour. You get one chance to loot the boss each day, but it's apparently pretty generous with the rewards.
There's also going to be a lengthy downtime tomorrow.
elfin steeple
10.2.6!
grizzled parcel
Yeah, I basically won't get to play that this week. It'll be 6pm by the time the servers come up, then I have to work Wed/Thu/Fri
elfin steeple
Well, maybe anyway. It's all speculation.
Well, the event should have started and I saw nothing in Valdrakken or Org
grizzled parcel
Same
elfin steeple
The early bird gets the worms, or the bugs in this case I guess.
elfin steeple
downloads HS, logs in, logs out, checks WoW, sees mount, deletes HS
tulip badger
which chest
elfin steeple
the trading post one
did it for the month, got the pet and only got 200/1000 tokens
tulip badger
D:
elfin steeple
So, apparently the event is on rotation, but the SW one is always up
Not the horde one
Pays to be a double agent!
elfin steeple
Saw this on WoWhead:
Pro tip - keep 10 Hearthstone Wild Cards on you at all times. As these are unique, the game can't give you any more, so it forces something else into your loot table. I've had 5 consecutive transmog, mount, cards drops ever since I maxed out on the Wild Cards.
grizzled parcel
How are people getting that many cards already?
elfin steeple
The wild cards you can buy from a vendor
By axel17 (32,239 – 5·34·114) <Premium User> 6 hr 41 min ago (Patch 10.2.5)
/way #2112 60.6, 59.3 valdrakken
/way #84 33.7, 12.3 stormwind
/way #1 53.9, 17.1 durotar (orgrimmar)
grizzled parcel
Interesting
elfin steeple
Someone has noted down the mount % by joining 40 man groups and is estimating roughly ~10%
Which is... reasonable.
If true.
grizzled parcel
Okay, so I had to wait until the WoW event was live, log into WoW, log into Hearthstone, then log back into WoW to get the steed.
elfin steeple
Yep, that's kind of what I'd figured.
grizzled parcel
I really wish the bags were account bound or reclaimable.
elfin steeple
Or at least not unique
grizzled parcel
I think they may have fixed it, because it hasn't popped in Stormwind this time.
grizzled parcel
I still haven't figured out what the Wildcards are supposed to do.
elfin steeple
They're flavor cards you use at a table while other people are playing, and that's all.
they don't do anything.
grizzled parcel
Ah
elfin steeple
They're good for holding 10 in your bag since that's the max you can have so you can guarantee you don't get any by looting the boss.
elfin steeple
what in the world lol
I did in Val at 4 and now there's SW ones up for 4:15. This scheduling is chaotic.
So in other words: just spam the search in group finder.
atomic sonnet
Since it seems to last a week or more, i'ma just wait a day for things to be fixed
elfin steeple
You mean you don't want to join this!?
It's lagging, the portal timer reset and now everyone is running in place.
grizzled parcel
Okay, I can't loot him on my alt.
elfin steeple
I looted him twice on my main
Maybe they can drop nothing?
Okay, they lagged out the server completely so I had to log out
atomic sonnet
Decided to check anyway >.> where's it at in org?
elfin steeple
It's not.
It's in durotar outside of Org xD
Right outside the gates to the left, pretty close to the water.
atomic sonnet
I mean, I consider the gates outside to be "in org" 😛
Like how brewfest is outside but it's org
elfin steeple
Yeah, I know. It's just funny because it's actually in SW, but for Org it's outside so it's easier for alliance to snag that one than it is for horde to snag the ally one.
Portals up in SW
lots of ques in group finder
grizzled parcel
I was so confused where it was in SW, I don't think any other event takes place over by the docks like that.
elfin steeple
More space I guess?
grizzled parcel
There'd be tons of room outside the gates, where most events happen.
grizzled parcel
I'm waiting for Valdrakken to pop this hour, to see if my alt can get anything.
atomic sonnet
Yeah immediately flagged if i go there as horde... great idea blizz
So there's a vendor that sells you more cards right?
grizzled parcel
Yes, at Stormwind he's way far away from the event area and a bit hidden. "Shady Dealer".
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
And by way, he's like 50 yards behind a tree
grizzled parcel
In Valdrakken, he's on the bridge leading from the event platform to the main Seat of the Aspects.
atomic sonnet
This bodes well for the untested pirate event
grizzled parcel
Starting to think it's just not going to appear in Valdrakken this hour.
atomic sonnet
By "appear", do you mean the tables for matches or the bosses to kill?
grizzled parcel
Bosses.
atomic sonnet
Meanwhile, on another server
elfin steeple
We're twins!
Just got mine too.
Done with this hellscape of an event and can afk until the next patch.
grizzled parcel
grizzled parcel
Nice
atomic sonnet
https://wago.io/TQl8ufgLL
https://wago.io/iWFb6lQNB US version. The one you linked seems to be EU
atomic sonnet
first kill got me mount and bag, did 2-3 more kills with nothing and i just got the hearthstone
grizzled parcel
Yeah, both WAs agree on which portal is up next.
grizzled parcel
Ah, the toys that cut out most of the other players from your graphics?
grizzled parcel
Woo!
atomic sonnet
got the hat
grizzled parcel
Was able to get a servers list, but they're still Offline right now, so we may be up a little early.
elfin steeple
Probably. They could be like that for a while though. I've seen that server list up in the past for hours before the servers come back online.
Oh, it's back up. Lol.
Probably no stealth 10.2.6 today then I'm guessing.
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
Dang it, flightstones are still a thing.
xD
I'm alright with +10 being the +20 equivalent, means less time grinding to get up to +10 on alts.
Still hoping for a small shake up in the affixes with having some fun stuff thrown in the mix for the last season.
And +10 should give the portal for each dungeon, and score should be the same just on lower key levels.
atomic sonnet
for loot: only pally had a vault again this week. 454 gloves -> 473, and catalysted them
elfin steeple
Game really wants you to play pally next season I guess
It's so funny that m0 is going to drop 489 493 gear
Ahh, I missed it but someone pointed out in the comments that back in December they mentioned this:
So, the m+ pool will consist of all the DF dungeons from S1 & S2.
Which makes sense, will be easy to implement, and will give people a chance to finish their DF portals.
But god dammit
Brackenhide
Halls of Infusion
Bleh
grizzled parcel
Okay, for some damn reason my Rogue can't loot the Hearthstone boss.
Dunno if he died too quick or what.
grizzled parcel
Aw
grizzled parcel
I really want to get her the bag, so I can have that and the Treasure Goblin bag on one character.
elfin steeple
They should just guarantee that you always get at least one thing off the bosses, because it feels bad to have a chance at nothing off an event.
The bag should be 100% for the first kill because that feels less of an award compared to the others since it will be replaced next expansion.
Err, or I guess it will be the equivalent to the best bag next expansion, but you only get one.
grizzled parcel
Yeah.
elfin steeple
You can spam +8 dungeons next season for one less affix, hero 1/6 gear from the dungeon, and myth track from the vault.
So, instead of +18's like this season it'll feel like +16's to do that but with one less affix.
Seems, uh, seems a bit good.
The other thing I'm noticing is that because m0 is going to be a +10 equivalent to the current system, Dawn of the Infinite may still be farmed for it's champion level gear (up to 515) for specific trinkets if they're not nerfed, as a few are quite good in comparison to the other options provided by the other DF dungeons.
grizzled parcel
elfin steeple
Good!
grizzled parcel
that's helpful
elfin steeple
I thought I was done, but they dragged me back in with the stupid hearthstone toy. I NEED IT.
grizzled parcel
All I need now is the mount, and I don't know that I'll have enough time to get it due to my work schedule + social obligations.
And the bag for a couple alts.
atomic sonnet
atomic sonnet
The top comment is exactly what I expected it to be
atomic sonnet
woo, got the belt mog. All i need now is two more cards
grizzled parcel
Nice
elfin steeple
I just want the hearthstone. 70% of the time I loot nothing lol.
annnd nothing again
grizzled parcel
I'd like to get the bags on a couple more characters, and the mount would be nice. But I won't likely have much time to play outside of a couple hours this weekend.
elfin steeple
I won't tell your boss if you log in for a couple seconds at a time to tag them.
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
Okay, that hearthstone is awesome. Just got it and tried it.
Welp, already got most of everything, may as well finish now...
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
Oh? Is that real?
elfin steeple
Really going with that pirate thing, huh? Didn't they say it wouldn't involve pirates or am I thinking far back to when people were speculating about the next expansion?
Can't remember now.
atomic sonnet
Expac speculation
With taliesin and his 30+ minute video about it. And Bellular's, I think
elfin steeple
Hmmmmm, deadmines m+
deadmines mega dungeon
jk
Oh, portals every 30 minutes now.
lol @ the top comment being "freehold timewalking"
Well, I'm glad they at least gave release date.
And season 4 "several weeks" after the release of 10.2.6.
atomic sonnet
Ah, pandamonium is .7
elfin steeple
More curious about that holiday event
doesn't say a rework, just says "new"
doesn't say whether it's a micro one or normal
So 10.2.6 sometime in April
elfin steeple
Oh no, I mean whatever season 4 is sorry
atomic sonnet
Ah
atomic sonnet
I think s4 IS 10.2.6, kinda
elfin steeple
yeah that makes sense
hey we can finish your df portals in s4
you're missing uldaman, right?
elfin steeple
Oh, easy peasy.
Unless it's tyrannical or fort bolstering or...
They really need to tweak that dungeon a little bit more
The long narrow hallways with insane amounts of dangerous trash isn't fun.
The bosses should be the challenge enough for that dungeon, not trash that can one shot the tank.
I think for the fated raids it would be fun to have the mythic mechanics but with a positive affix for players to counter it.
Ehh, maybe heroic mechanics...
With a couple less awful mythic ones added for certain bosses.
atomic sonnet
The fucking cleave mobs in the trash
elfin steeple
yeah, that on fort bolstering weeks you may as well not even do the dungeon
atomic sonnet
I'm still pretty sure like 70% of people can't actually tell you which of the mobs do the cleave in those packs
atomic sonnet
Yeah, troggs do some but I think i'm thinking of the stone(metal?) dwarves
Sentinel something
elfin steeple
Bosses felt fair but punishing if you weren't paying attention
sounds right
lots of dangerous trash you had to interrupt/stun
too
most of that at the start
the other annoying thing was just not being able to zoom back far enough to get a good angle on everything
elfin steeple
S2 was a range meta
Can't die if you can't be cleaved.
That was the season with... Prot pally, shadow priest, fire mage, aug evoker and... resto druid? disc priest?
Something like that
Nobody to stand in cleave but the tank
Lot of the S2 dungeons felt really punishing for melee compared to this last season.
elfin steeple
ah yeah
The unkillable bears that become almost nonexistent one patch later.
Unkillable bears to unkillable illidan fans
atomic sonnet
😦 not able to duplicate that mount bug thing. Seems they might've fixed it
Hm, I can get the giant velocidrake though
Ah, there we go
Aw hell yeah. Sinrunner blanchy
elfin steeple
Ooh, I like that.
atomic sonnet
I was hoping to do the constellation ones like the sparklepony or the wind serpent, but neither worked
atomic sonnet
Lol. So with the change you can get stolen cards from playing the match at the table. Won for once, and i only needed one card sooooo yeah, done with the event
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
Alright, got everything including the cards from the event. Just gonna sit tight and see what the 19th brings.
grizzled parcel
Oh my god. I decided to try and get my Horde bank alt the bag, and instead...
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
grizzled parcel
So basically everything I wanted, I don't have the last transmog item but that's fine. I just want the bags now.
Might just be me, but droprate on bags seems to have gone down since the event started. Haven't got one on several characters that have tried.
elfin steeple
Maybe it's one per account? Because I got it on the first kill IIRC and haven't seen it since.
grizzled parcel
I got it on multiple characters the first few days, then went 4 days before playing again, and got it to drop once, then nothing.
elfin steeple
I feel like they wouldn't touch the % of something like that, so maybe it's just a coincidence? Got lucky the first few days and are just experiencing average/bad luck now?
grizzled parcel
Could be
grizzled parcel
On that note, I managed to get the last transmog reward from the Hearthstone event. So now I just need a few more cards, and to get more bags for characters.
Rewards do seem to favor the first kill of the day.
elfin steeple
Yeah, I'm tired of rare drops. I wouldn't mind doing a cool quest chain or go on a treasure hunt during these events for the transmog and mounts like with the Nightmare mount or the secrets of Azeroth.
atomic sonnet
grizzled parcel
Just... make them a guaranteed drop. It's an "I was there" thing, there's no reason they should be rare.
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
Who's ready for the best patch to ever be and will ever be tomorrow!?
It's gonna be GREAT.
grizzled parcel
oh it's tomorrow?
atomic sonnet
European peasants
atomic sonnet
The newest one? haven't watched it yet, doing so now
elfin steeple
He says European Peasants in that video
atomic sonnet
Ahh, i was just saying it of my own volition
elfin steeple
weird cowinkidink then
I love play season of walking sim
so much fun
walk, put on auto run, get a drink and come back to being 20% there
atomic sonnet
Also man, that "it was a shitshow, obviously" pic they used has gotten so much mileage 
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
That's a great comment.
If this patch doesn't fall apart and works as intended I'll be completely shocked.
atomic sonnet
I do love how Ion's pic pops up as Tali says "neon haired hydras" 
atomic sonnet
grizzled parcel
oh no
grizzled parcel
Somehow, the Pepe is the only thing that interests me. 
atomic sonnet
The mog in the first video is pretty bitchin
elfin steeple
pfft, that's pretty wild. I'll give them that.
elfin steeple
"Players are going to zip through the renown levels super quickly. We want this to feel rewarding..."
"There's 40 renown levels and players can expect to get 1 renown level every 4-5 matches, even a casual player will get 1 renown level a day!"
???
That's what they call fast and rewarding?
So, 156-196 matches to get to 40 assuming you start at renown 1.
atomic sonnet
Matches last 15 minutes, they said
elfin steeple
atomic sonnet
Not super fast to get the whole thing no. At the same time I imagine they don't want people to finish this in one day either :X
elfin steeple
Alrighty, awesome! I'll check it out after people complain about the renown leveling speed and they buff it in a week!
atomic sonnet
grizzled parcel
Yeeeah. I will not be grinding this.
I may do 1 or 2 matches just to say I did it, but I am not a PvP person.
elfin steeple
It's pretty neat, but yeah same. Maybe if it was 1-3 renown a match depending on how far you make it, maybe.
grizzled parcel
INB4 the best strategy is to join, die, AFK to the end, repeat.
elfin steeple
That's exactly what I was thinking and may/may not have considered it.
Just die instantly and afk!
Easy
"Oh no! I'm so bad at this game! Anyway..."
grizzled parcel
elfin steeple
pfft I did get a good chuckle out of that line though when I first heard it, having several flashbacks to my less than ideal moments...
elfin steeple
Oh, wonderful. Microsoft is pushing out random malware looking notifications again. Got a popup and I genuinely thought I had a virus until I looked up and found several articles about it coming out today.
Just one day closer to switching to Linux...
One day...
elfin steeple
Well, whether I lie to myself about what year it's happening, I know it's going to happen if Microsoft keeps pushing this crap.
I'm considering dualbooting it at the very least and just having Windows there for things that are just too annoying to setup on Linux.
95% of the time I'm just on the internet/word documents/steam/bnet, all of which should be simple enough to use. But that other 5%, yeah.
grizzled parcel
Come to the Dark Side MacOS, we have cookies.
elfin steeple
I don't mind MacOS, but um, I'll keep that in mind. Those cookies are pretty expensive.
grizzled parcel
Yeah, they're pricy. But I definitely prefer MacOS to Windows, and my brief foray into Linux was punctuated with "Why the hell do I have to configure this via command line?"
elfin steeple
Depends on the Linux OS but yeah I get that!
I'm not really super into that either
Like, I don't mind having the option, but I'd rather not.
grizzled parcel
Plus side, MacOS has a command line, but you never have to touch it unless you really want to.
elfin steeple
That's good at least, but yeah. MacOS would likely be a last resort for me if everything goes to hell.
Which there is definitely a non-zero chance of that happening and soon!
I guess I'd be using a hackintosh or whatever since I don't think I can just buy a license for MacOS for my PC, I assume? I'll look into it later.
grizzled parcel
The other upside is that WoW is supported on the Mac.
grizzled parcel
I guess I'd be using a hackintosh or whatever since I don't think I can just buy...
Sadly, no, there is no license for using MacOS on non-Apple hardware. And hackintoshes are... iffy. Any software update can break it.
elfin steeple
That's kind of what I'd figured
grizzled parcel
Plus side, there was a company selling M1 Macbook Airs for $699 recenty
elfin steeple
Down side, I like my computer I built too much :S
So Linux is the most likely thing to happen in the future unless something changes
grizzled parcel
I'm actually planning to use my PC until it becomes obsolete then just... not keep it. My Steam Deck has replaced it for most of my gaming.
And I can play WoW on my Macbook
elfin steeple
I saw the Steam Deck had some upgrades IIRC, I'm planning on getting one eventually.
compared to its initial release I mean
grizzled parcel
Yeah, OLED screen, more memory, faster drive
elfin steeple
It's really funny seeing that upgrade and then looking at the Switch "upgrade" and going "hmm wonder which one I should get?"
Obviously joking a little bit since the Switch has exclusives but the differences in power is wild.
In price to performance I mean
grizzled parcel
Yeah, it's crazy what all you can get on a Deck. Switch is basically just for the exclusives now.
grizzled parcel
... well shit, I might have to play it.
grizzled parcel
And it looks like I have to finish out the faction quests.
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
The mounts are nice, so maybe I'll touch that later after some video guides on it come out.
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
I mean, I'm not terribly shocked but it's nice to know now!
Sweet
Might go back and try for the evoker one now
grizzled parcel
Yeah, i should at least try for it.
elfin steeple
the LFR versions should still be around in S4 so you can keep trying every once and a while easily
but yeah, the LFR drop rates are terrible though...
I'm really curious how the drop rates are going to be in the fated raids with the rotation though
Should make it the mythic raid equivalent since you have less chances at it overall
So like 5 tries and you get it 100% or something
atomic sonnet
tulip badger
maybe I start playing to prog mythic rasz again
atomic sonnet
servers and YARRRR are up
tulip badger
wheeere we droppin booooyyzzzz
atomic sonnet
Played a couple rounds of plunderstorm, was fun. people seem to be gravitating towards one particular spell already
atomic sonnet
atomic sonnet
grizzled parcel
You underestimate how much I suck.
atomic sonnet
He does give good tips
Overall I've seen people loving this, people not interested in Battle royale stuff shrug, some people disappointed it's not DF content
And then there's this asshole
grizzled parcel
So he assumed it would be something, it was something else, and that's Blizz's fault somehow.
atomic sonnet
Essentially
elfin steeple
atomic sonnet
I've been playing this mode in an incredibly dumb way that I find fun. I run around, kill NPCs, loot chests, get all the gold people somehow forget the stupid gold elemental drops, then, when the circle has closed and there's no more gold on the ground, deliver myself unto the killing fields. With these new changes, watching myself explode like a treasure goblin has been amazing, especially with all the chasing I make people do to kill me.
elfin steeple
"YOU'LL NEVER GET ME LUCKY CHARMS! - AURGH!" Fucking explodes.
atomic sonnet
IN A SHOWER OF ORANGES ORGANS LOOT
grizzled parcel
Today may be the day to try it out.
atomic sonnet
atomic sonnet
grizzled parcel
Played a round. I have no idea what I'm doing. Placed 36th
atomic sonnet
It is good to have a look at those guide videos, helpful
grizzled parcel
I just hate that I have to watch a video to understand the game.
Also, the bindings are all over the place. My main attack is R, heal is T, and then my first bonus ability is... 1.
atomic sonnet
Nah same for me, they made odd choices for them
grizzled parcel
Oh and I died because the othe rplayer had a stun. I fucking hate stuns in PvP.
atomic sonnet
Basically, kill NPCs, pick up gold piles, pick up abilities to make it better, try to fight and survive against other players. If you just want to farm the plunder for the rep, easiest thing to do is do the initial mission that appears on the side, then stopp the match. Keeping the match going as long as possible is less efficient
Gold = the rep, so that's the main focus. PVP is an unfortunate part of it, imo
grizzled parcel
Ah
atomic sonnet
grizzled parcel
I assume the Captain's Log is a task you're supposed to complete? I had the basic "pick up an item, use your ability" thing during the pre-game, but that's all I saw. I didn't even finish it because I couldn't find some of the things during the pre-game.
atomic sonnet
Yeah that's just plain incorrect
grizzled parcel
Made it up to 13th place, but still only level 5 and wasn't able to finish my quest because I only found one Elite critter.
atomic sonnet
It's just a level of the plunderstorm rep and they forgot to change the name
atomic sonnet
Made it up to 13th place, but still only level 5 and wasn't able to finish my qu...
For that, fly down to one of the places with features. A mine, a city/village/etc. The stars you see on the minimap are elites
grizzled parcel
The problem there is that the fort I landed near had so many NPCs, I wouldn't have been able to get inside before the storm overtook it.
atomic sonnet
Also when you land with the bird, it's usually enough to instakill an elite
grizzled parcel
Ah
atomic sonnet
I think the first storm takes a good minute before it starts moving in
grizzled parcel
I might try just dropping in then. If I die, I die.
grizzled parcel
I think the first storm takes a good minute before it starts moving in
Even then, I was level 1 with barely any abilities, it would've been a slog fighting in. Lots of clustered up enemies.
atomic sonnet
True. Just start with non elites at that point if it's so cluttered. The normal R attack spam kills them in 3-4 hits and generally they will always stay in the same direction when they attack, so you can dodge the hits easy
grizzled parcel
"easy" he says.
atomic sonnet
The elites have some hard to avoid ones, yes
But for the trash mobs it's just, strafe
grizzled parcel
Even the regular mobs, I wasn't moving well enough.
As I said, I'm not good at this.
atomic sonnet
First thing to work on, then 🙂
grizzled parcel
Eh, I doubt I'll stick with this long enough to get good at it.
atomic sonnet
Still worth keeping in mind if you do it a couple more times!
grizzled parcel
I'm spectating this guy, and I don't know how the hell he's healing this much.
Or where he summoned that bush from.
atomic sonnet
Bush is a special ability, one you pick up
Healing should only be from the healing ability you get, which is on a set cooldown
I think increasing level might reduce its cooldown but I am not sure about that
grizzled parcel
I guess that's it, because he lasted all the way to the end by running and healing a lot.
atomic sonnet
Yeah. R is the attack, T is the heal/grog
grizzled parcel
Yeah, he was just healing quick enough it was crazy.
atomic sonnet
For this, always try to be at max health
I know increasing the rarity color of the picked up abilities (duplicates) improves damage/cooldown
I am not sure about the basic heal one though, if that gets reduced. I'll check it next time
grizzled parcel
Yeah, that's two matches in a row where I got ganked before the first storm increase. Forget it.
atomic sonnet
They've made it worse, unfortunately. They increased rep from various sources....
...Including from killing other players.
atomic sonnet
Check out this sweaty gamer
grizzled parcel
Nice
elfin steeple
Winner winner chicken dinner
atomic sonnet
I do hear it's better as duos for farming
elfin steeple
👀
atomic sonnet
God, these cocksucking sweatlord assholes
Guy spents literaly 3 minutes chasing me down, someone who is 2 levels lower than he is
anything else would be more efficient for him
elfin steeple
sounds about right
grizzled parcel
Yup, that was my problem. There was zero reason to chase my level 2 ass down at the start of the match, but I had it happen twice.
Fuckin gankers
elfin steeple
I really don't like pvp, it brings out the worst in people.
grizzled parcel
yeah
elfin steeple
Loot related stuff is annoying in pug raids too. People needing on things they don't need 'cause they can and they have no concept of empathy.
grizzled parcel
mhm
atomic sonnet
What in the absolute utter fuck
I've never seen someone at level ten
Anyway, regarding ganking - you get some of their plunder after killing them... so it's better to do so later in the game when they actually, yknow, have plunder
Rather than the start when there's nothing
grizzled parcel
Right, which is why it makes no sense for any reason but trolling
atomic sonnet
They did increase renown from sources but also "greatly increased from killing others". So I think people see that as a free license to gank at any time
They need to reduce the renown from killing players (even though yes, it's a pvp mode, i know), and increase renown gain speed full stop
grizzled parcel
Or at least make it scale off the target's level
atomic sonnet
Mmm. Underlevel ganking should be terrible
grizzled parcel
Make killing a level 1 basically worthless, but a level 8 would be a big boost
atomic sonnet
(gank someone 2 levels lower than you give plunder to your victim 
)
atomic sonnet
atomic sonnet
So I think for plunderstorm, it needs to be more like Fortnite. As in, the power scaling is purely from the level of skills you get (green blue purple). Fortnite does not have character level increases, and the power you get from that is far too significant in plunderstorm
tulip badger
But levels discourage fighting at low lvls which is what the convo above was complaining about
In Fortnite you drop and the more you kill asap the better
atomic sonnet
But levels discourage fighting at low lvls which is what the convo above was co...
before they changed the rewards maybe. Now people gank immediately because you get plunder for killing folk
As in, before the change I might try to gank/get ganked but if someone ran away you could just shrug and continue killing NPCs
Now: some cocksucker will fucking hunt you down for 3-5 minutes while you run away because fuck you
tulip badger
its still an incredible waste of time to fight at low lvls
so the people doing that to you are throwing
If it was the correct strategy many more people would be doing it instead of just the people who dont know any better
atomic sonnet
its still an incredible waste of time to fight at low lvls
Tell that to said cocksucker who hunted me down for those 3-5 minutes
It was like he was blinded with rage or something. I ran for so long and he kept going
tulip badger
But we agree hes throwing right
atomic sonnet
Throwing or doesn't know better
People don't understand that you get plunder proportionate to how much you have on you
tulip badger
Good hotfixes today
atomic sonnet
Those were from yesterday, mostly
After our changes yesterday to increase the amount of plunder you get in a match, we saw an unintended side-effect: players were leveling quicker in duos than expected! Plunder gold piles picked up in Plunderstorm contribute towards the overall amount of experience you gain during a match, especially thanks to a bug at level 3.
When leveling up in a match is too fast, some teams get ahead of others much quicker which can lead to less competition. Players hitting max level too early can remove the sense of power progression for the rest of a match, as well.
So this evening, we’ve deployed a hotfix to straighten that all out. We’ve lowered the overall amount of experience players are getting in Duos so that it’s more in line with the pace of leveling in Solos matches.```THat's the most recent one and it doesn't help much for solo
tulip badger
fire whirl was definitely not nerfed when I played yesterday evening 
atomic sonnet
tulip badger
My favorite ability is the big fire axe
grizzled parcel
I don't like the long cast time.
tulip badger
im ok with it because of its deceptively long range
atomic sonnet
And again, this utter piece of shit
I start the match, land on an elite, some cocksucker landed at the same time on it and stole the ability, we fight, i run away at 30% and the fucking cunt keeps hunting me
we're both level one you absolute turd
grizzled parcel
I start the match, land on an elite, some cocksucker landed at the same time on ...
Please dial back the language, Rule 2 still applies.
atomic sonnet
Yeah, getting a rapidly increasing absolute hatred of the ganking
last two games; under 2 minutes, 98 and 19 plunder respectively before some [BLEEEEEEP] kills me
grizzled parcel
I won't touch it again until they fix that somehow.
atomic sonnet
tulip badger
Alright my guide is finally up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_DqLOA3zAk
atomic sonnet
is it actual guide or shitpost guide
grizzled parcel
atomic sonnet
atomic sonnet
https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-dragonflight-expansion-meta-achievement-a-world-awoken-taivan-mount-338131 GOOD BOY MOUNT
grizzled parcel
Woo!
Oh fuck, it has max rep requirements
I do not want to grind Cobalt Assembly
grizzled parcel
elfin steeple
atomic sonnet
tulip badger
ye getting that mount is a mega giga grind
just like the shadowlands "do everything" mount
atomic sonnet
I think I've done a lot of that. Cobalt's probably one of the few I haven't
tulip badger
I havent done anything 
atomic sonnet
https://www.wowhead.com/achievement=19507/fringe-benefits argh, i need all of these
Noooooooooooooooo
elfin steeple
yeah no thanks
atomic sonnet
But but good boi mount
elfin steeple
make it a swift zulian tiger and I'll be on instantly
grizzled parcel
I don't even know where Eon's Fringe is
atomic sonnet
The time-frozen town that was here and got unfrozen in the dawn of infinites patch
atomic sonnet
make it a swift zulian tiger and I'll be on instantly
To be fair, what else is there to do in the game? Other than season 4 stuff 😛
atomic sonnet
I mean, yes >.>
If it wasn't a Taivan mount I'd be saying the same, but I've been wanting it since he first appeared in quests
elfin steeple
they should have had that mount out at the start and it shouldn't take forever to get
atomic sonnet
You're not wrong
elfin steeple
tired of their crap
atomic sonnet
Okay, investigating my missing achieves even more... a lot of stuff is based also on rng and i'm missing a ton soooo yeah maybe nevermind
grizzled parcel
The time-frozen town that was here and got unfrozen in the dawn of infinites pat...
I didn't know that was a thing.
atomic sonnet
You used to not be able to go there, it kinda put a dot on you or something and everything was completely frozen/sepia or something
Then it got freed
atomic sonnet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHDFgZAuJHU an interesting video. Though "actual" is just a graph without numbers and the numbers section of the video is a guesstimate, but they do make sense too
tulip badger
Its baffling that there's currently more people playing NOW than Dragonflight LAUNCH
Season of Discovery must be way bigger than anyone could have guessed
Also surprised that Shadowlands had a bigger launch than Legion but as others have said that could be chalked up to pandemic
atomic sonnet
Yeah, pandemic had an outsized effect on it, i'd say
And mind you, this is split between SOD, classic and retail - compared to wrath which was pure retail. We have no idea of the splits
atomic sonnet
https://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=294262&vtype=pc korean article for someone who seems to have attended that presentation
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
atomic sonnet
ptr for s4 tomorrow, i think
elfin steeple
gud veryyyy gud
40-50 has the better dungeon pool: Zul'Furrak, Uldaman and Maraudon. SM spam and RFD was oof.
I just got to 40, I haven't even gotten around to trying the new raid. Guess I'll try it next phase.
S4 I'm only touching to get KSM and dip out.
especially if there's no interesting new fun affixes or any meaningful changes to m+ or the raids' affixes don't look too great.
grizzled parcel
I've basically given up on doing much in the game right now. It all feels like a slog. I may just wait until TWW beta or the pre-patch.
elfin steeple
The feeling is mutual. The new meta achievements seem a bit excessive on the slogginess.
A little slog is fine, but god damn.
tulip badger
just like the shadowlands one its a reward for players who have played and done everything
ill never grind either of them
elfin steeple
especially the SL one
grizzled parcel
I never did anything in Loam Niffen, and I'm not sure I want to.
elfin steeple
The 10.1 stuff is the worst of DF, that place is pretty boring in my opinion.
grizzled parcel
When I first went to the Reach, my character wsa getting killed by mobs so frequently I just gave up and quit the game until 10.2
atomic sonnet
I'd almost be doing some of the stuff for the achieve, but some parts seem to require a rare chance drop to even start a quest/etc, so fuck that
elfin steeple
yeah the reach and the caverns were a bit overtuned for solo players
atomic sonnet
👀
So one thing datamined earlier if you remember was a string about "vampire survivors mode". Pandamonium in 10.2.7... And Holly here saying it's for PVEers...
elfin steeple
- Dual-spec
- 50% exp bonus from 40-49
- New PVE events to level solo or in a group
- Atal will be relevant for pre-bis gear at level 60
Small preview for level 60, phase 4 stuff too:
- Weapon skills gained by playing specific races are now available to every race and can be swapped out for up to two weapon skills. So, humans can have +5 axes/daggers, trolls can have +5 swords/axes, etc... Doesn't stack with current race bonuses of the same weapon type, so no +10 human swords or orc +10 axes.
- Every priest will have a chance to have access to the race specific spells, so fear ward can be gained on any race now.
- Most items will be revamped/tweaked from endgame.
- "Offspec" tier sets will be a thing.
Sound pretty good to me. I hope we see some itemization changes for the 40-50 leveling bracket from dungeons, otherwise Gnomer will be the main source of pre-bis.
Now let's see that S4 stuff
grizzled parcel
Okay that's insane
atomic sonnet
Blizz does have a lot of merch that I'd love to have, but the prices are in general mad
tulip badger
doesnt look very practical
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
Looks like some good tuning to me. That Halls checkpoint is really nice.
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
The only thing is that because I've already spammed a vast majority of those and not all that long ago, I really don't feel up to doing them again even with the nice tunings they've done. It needs a little extra spice of some variety to shake things up. Like a seasonal affix, which kept the SL's repeated pool of dungeons interesting each season.
Like, even if they kept the current affixes, just adding a nice kiss-curse seasonal affix or just a positive affix for taking a risk with doing something extra would be nice.
atomic sonnet
We'll have to see. I think the tuning is just necessary full stop. The other big change to M+ being the new system being +1 to +10, but both of those feel like system changes rather than a seasonal "thing"
So they might add something
elfin steeple
Hopefully, but yes the tunings absolutely needed to be done first and the changes for casual gameplay is really nice, so I'm not knocking them for any of that. Those are just good changes.
I'm really hoping TWW gets some major shake ups in the M+ and raiding environments
A bit early but we have info on it already.
elfin steeple
very nice
I'd like to see the Dinar system being one they just keep for every season.
They can make the trinkets and stuff expensive, it would just be a nice bad luck protection thing.
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
And they can lock raid trinkets until you've beaten the appropriate boss and raid difficulty of said boss depending on which version you want
atomic sonnet
Hmm, I think the turtle is the only must buy for me
elfin steeple
I want the boat
Hmm, a pet as the completion reward again so soon is a bit of a... weird choice.
I'm happy for people who genuinely love collecting pets, but uh, I'd say that's a smaller portion of the player population and they could just have them for trader's tender.
atomic sonnet
Boat was a 6 month sub reward years ago
elfin steeple
yep and I'm cheap so gimme gimme
atomic sonnet
tulip badger
that boat is so funny
elfin steeple
why's that?
tulip badger
its a very funny looking mount
elfin steeple
It is? Okay, I know that's subjective but I think it looks nice.
I should be at 490/500 from those two mounts. I'm debating if I just want to crush out the last 10 soon, or just be drip fed...
tulip badger
im on 399 😎
grizzled parcel
Oh right, I never finished this month's trading post
elfin steeple
I don't even remember what came in this month's trading post
tulip badger
im waiting for final surge dragonflight dungeons tomorrow
elfin steeple
the what now
tulip badger
final surge is something they added in the last major patch I think
its some activites that gives extra points at the end of the month as a final chance to finish it
atomic sonnet
grizzled parcel
Hm. Might give it another shot then.
tulip badger
Very productive morning I have unlocked the forbidden reach, zaralek caverns, and found all of the dragon glyphs in those two areas and the emerald dream
atomic sonnet
Okay just tried it after those changes. daily boost (800?) + captain's boost (250?) + 21st place, 1431 plunder
grizzled parcel
Yeha, fuck Plunderstorm. Took me three matches just to get from rank 2 to rank 3, because people wanted to chase me down and kill me.
tulip badger
the 2 hp win 
elfin steeple
I'm playing on a dead server on SoD, and couldn't find anyone to do a level 50 quest at level 40 for a good chest piece. So I just kited the dragons to the nearest town and let the guards beat on 'em for me.
Hunter OP
atomic sonnet
Yeha, fuck Plunderstorm. Took me three matches just to get from rank 2 to rank 3...
That's fair. There's still some dumb assholes that don't know early kills are useless
elfin steeple
I'm surprised they don't have a safe period where you can't kill each other in the first couple minutes so people are incentivized to spread out and do the PvE stuff first
grizzled parcel
Or at least penalizing for killing someone much lower level than you.
atomic sonnet
A lot of this is heavily inspired by fortnite, and that doesn't have it. They''d also have to maybe double the amount of creatures on the map to have enough for a grace period
(honestly they should get rid of the leveling system completely - different spell ranks is fine)
elfin steeple
The problem with penalizing people for killing lower level people is that if the lower level people gank the higher level person, does he still get penalized for killing the lower level people?
I'd say they should just have a PvE only version available, honestly.
Pigeon-holing people who don't like to pvp, but want the nice transmog and mount kind of sucks
atomic sonnet
Nah, that'll be pandamonium
grizzled parcel
Rumor has it they're doing another game that's PvE... yeah, Pandamonium.
atomic sonnet
High chance that'll be the vampire survivors thing, i'd guess
atomic sonnet
Nah, that was a different event. This is a 10.2.7 thing and people found a string from datamining about vampire survivors mode, so people are thinking this is what it'll be
Since plunder was a totally different more, BR
elfin steeple
what renown are you at now?
elfin steeple
dang
atomic sonnet
Bully 
elfin steeple
Good... good...
tulip badger
the tornado stun feels so strong compared to other utility
Notice thats the common denominator in my wins
atomic sonnet
I saw someone absolutely dominate with fish + slicing wind + fae form + the... rogue stealth kinda thing?
tulip badger
whats fish
smackrel?
I guess smackrel + 3 mobility is great because smackrel is the most damage if you land it on cooldown
atomic sonnet
yeah, it's the highest dps if you keep hitting
tulip badger
Looking forward to the tournament on saturday that should have some funny strats
atomic sonnet
Fucking hell
tulip badger
I cant tell whats funny or clip worthy here
Its got 2k views for a reason so im missing something
atomic sonnet
Look at the names in the distance
atomic sonnet
Indeed
tulip badger
I guess thats a pretty big advantage to jank that up
atomic sonnet
Yus, you can see miles away and it's just a game setting, not some exterior addon
Only works for mobs and players, not for the skills you pickup tho. And I assume that this is gonna be patched out soon
tulip badger
Im good without it
makes the game look so ugly
and you can see them anyway this is just more obvious
atomic sonnet
grizzled parcel
Oh cool. So I could go through LFR on any of the raids and get the gear ilvls I want.
atomic sonnet
It'll still be mostly the veteran track, and vault might get ya a bit more. And M0s now will award pretty good loot too since they're equivalent to +10 but without the affixes and timer
M0 might even be champion track?
elfin steeple
That's a true WoW player right there. "Me no like words, me like number go up. Zug zug."
elfin steeple
Nice!
atomic sonnet
I have found it a bit easier in plunderstorm. I try for 2 levels a day
Got to third
tulip badger
yarr!
atomic sonnet
There's still twatwaffles that try to kill you early but I generally just try stay away from em
grizzled parcel
Apparently the ideal strategy is to just land, do your mission, and then... die & restart.
grizzled parcel
I wouldn't be able to pay attention to the video while I'm Plundering.
atomic sonnet
Podcast!
elfin steeple
I often just listen to the videos without even watching them
tulip badger
grizzled parcel
Podcast!
Same problem. I can't listen closely & focus on the game at the same time, I'd ahve to rewind. That's the reason I can't do podcasts or audio books, I have to give them my full attention & do nothing else, or I miss entire chunks of what's being said.
atomic sonnet
https://www.wowhead.com/news/the-mounts-of-patch-10-2-6-meta-achievements-plunderstorm-dragonflight-season-4-338279? not just from the giga huge achievement, but some of the sub-achievements also reward some mounts. Might be more achievable goals
atomic sonnet
atomic sonnet
Huh, they're adding trios to plunder
atomic sonnet
grizzled parcel
The April Fools "Patch Notes" are out:
https://www.wowhead.com/news/leaked-world-of-warcraft-patch-notes-patch-10-6-2-and-classic-season-of-mystery-338398?webhook
PLUNDERSTORM, THE SEQUEL
Coming very soon, we’re releasing a completely non-PvP sequel to Plunderstorm. This event has no PvP whatsoever, and it’s super easy to pick up all the rewards, as they’re just laying on the ground in the relative safety of the starting zones! Look for this relaxing in-game activity on your calendar under the name “Noblegarden”.
atomic sonnet
atomic sonnet
Trading post stuff is up
elfin steeple
time to speedrun it then lol
Ya know, it's funny... So, Chaos Bolt (a server on SoD) is dying because Blizzard locked it and are preventing people from creating new characters on it while also forcing people to server transfer. Before this happened I struggled to get into raid groups because they wanted you to bring full buffs/consumes and have experience. Now, I can just whisper a guy and be like "I can do damage I think" and get invited instantly lol.
All the sweatlords must have transfered I guess
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
badges to buy vendor gear again and removal of affixes? yes, please. Switch out the mount for the infinite timereaver, 'cause fuck it why not and we're golden.
tulip badger
you missed the last part about affixes
atomic sonnet
tulip badger
I found so many eggs today (15)
elfin steeple
to nobody's shock it has a 1% drop rate, once per character per day
It is a decent way to fill the traveler's log if you spam on alts though, since you fulfill the daily quest, regular quest, chocolates, and kill ones for points
atomic sonnet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pzNNC-AtZBXSHp9zhVkvlRNmUcUiN314_Fgr3jaS5PY/template/preview interesting. Gdoc to check your progression percentage for the Taivan mount
tulip badger
seems like you linked a private copy
atomic sonnet
Fixed?
atomic sonnet
Indeed 
tulip badger
hm I think theres easier ways to reach my 500 goal
elfin steeple
yes, yes there are
There was a video of someone going over which mounts are the easiest and which take time to do
elfin steeple
Oh, just go to the Emerald Dream, get purple seeds, plant them and get their progress to 50/100 for a chance at several mounts
elfin steeple
Yes if you have other people doing it, it's pretty fast. No if you're by yourself.
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
He goes over which are fast/easy and which ones aren't
tulip badger
Im missing some in bfa and sl
atomic sonnet
So I think i'm still missing some because i'm using the wow armory website to track achievements and it's not always showing all of them - but at the absolute bare minimum, i'm at 93/162, so about 57% of the way
elfin steeple
That's a lot
atomic sonnet
Done, or need to do?
tulip badger
id say both since you are halfway
atomic sonnet
I did fully expect that response
elfin steeple
I was tempted not to but I had to
atomic sonnet
atomic sonnet
Servers up
okay, checked in-game. A smidgen closer than i thought (2 more achieves)
tulip badger
didnt know shadowdager was in the push group
he quit raiding same time as me, kinda crazy to do +32 without mythic raid gear
elfin steeple
I mean, mythic raid gear isn't really needed if you just get lucky with the vault. Only things you're missing from mythic raid these days are trinkets for a slight boost.
It's crazy seeing a resto shaman this high in m+
tulip badger
True he must be incredibly good
you'd have to be one of the all time goats to be on his level...
elfin steeple
dang he must be since you brought him instead of a pres evoker at the time
the true goat
tulip badger
who wants to play pres evoker ...
tulip badger
resto shamans are always OP because totems do the job for them trust me
it checks out
tulip badger
💪
elfin steeple
lol imagine telling him that
"you're totems are so good, I hope they don't nerf them"
atomic sonnet
tulip badger
thats so late
elfin steeple
tulip badger
I want war within..
elfin steeple
damn choosing violence today
atomic sonnet
