Same! hehe
#World of Warcraft
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grizzled parcel
So yeah, about half an hour of fishing to get it.
elfin steeple
not bad
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and now, I must bed. 'night all.
Nighty night!
elfin steeple
about half an hour to get mine 
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Soar on evoker in the open world is *sooooooo* good.
Now that I've got my DK geared for LFR, I'll probably focus on my Evoker next. May send them into the T2 raid to see if they can get the Legendary from there.
atomic sonnet
gusty stratus
So yeah, about half an hour of fishing to get it.
Where can you fish to get it?
grizzled parcel
Where can you fish to get it?
You have to do the new questline/event to reclaim Gilneas, you'll see the questgiver in Valdrakken near the Stormwind portal. Stay in the zone after you finish the storyline, then go fishing in the open waters.
If you have TomTom installed, you can use /way #217 50.75 48.04 Lord Godfrey's Old Spectacles to get you to a decent fishing spot on some rocks.
It uses Classic Fishing, so if you've got that leveled, it should only take 20-30 minutes to get the glasses. Otherwise, you'll probably catch a lot of junk while it levels your Fishing.
gusty stratus
You have to do the new questline/event to reclaim Gilneas, you'll see the questg...
ty! https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/399726347888623617.gif?size=48&name=flutternod&quality=lossless
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atomic sonnet
I know they're going for old pilot style looks but it looks ugly :X
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Yeah, the helm is the only bit I'm interested in.
atomic sonnet
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I need to level my druid, so I can try to get some more of these form unlocks before it's no longer current content.
Makes me wish Dark Iron could be Druids.
atomic sonnet
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Great, now I want Vulpera Druids with a squirrel form.
atomic sonnet
Also, the duality of man
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I saw that.
I'm with the latter poster, the actual missions were meh, but I found the story to be good.
Also some people fucking hate that Tess is the new leader, specifically because she's not a worgen.
atomic sonnet
I did love how the emotions were visible on Genn in the cinematic. Those non prerendered cinematics look really great these days
grizzled parcel
Yeah, they've come a long way with the in-game cinematics.
tulip badger
you have no idea what im capable of
elfin steeple
What are you capable of? WHAT ARE YOU CAPABLE OF!? You can't just leave it at that! I HAVE TO KNOW.
tulip badger
Watch and learn
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tulip badger
thats tess greymanes play sound and attack sound
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That reminded me to look up Narcissus instructions, and there is an option to show transmog in the slots instead of the actual gear.
Will need to do that again on my bank alt.
elfin steeple
Ahh, now that makes sense. I don't remember if it was on by default or if I clicked it by accident at some point.
For the m+ challenge I think I made the mistake of picking a spec I really like. I'm having an itch. I might need to level another one meantime. 
atomic sonnet
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and by level I mean use my gold to buy another boost because it's not timewalking week.
grizzled parcel
Yeeeah, I gave in and used a boost to get my Panda Shaman up to endgame, because I didn't want to level her.
elfin steeple
maybe if the leveling wasn't so boring and jank
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Check out this nerd
I found an Engie goggles that fit the whole Stormrider theme
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that's an error page
elfin steeple
what's the name of them?
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Weimin-Stormrage
I'll get a Narcissus screenshot later when I'm not at work.
I also need to keep killing Nalak so I can get a lightning-themed mount for her.
elfin steeple
Ooo, nice! It shows! I like the hair with the violet stripe too. We need more split hair color options for other races.
those engi goggles are definitely going into my collection.
I'd just keep one alt you never use parked at nalak
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Oh yeah, when I was messing around with making a new Pandaren, i found that hair and just fell in love. Decided I was keeping that no matter what.
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I'd just keep one alt you never use parked at nalak
I've got a mage who can teleport, two Engies with wormholes to Pandaria, and I'm going to get my Dracthyr the Timeless Isle trinket that teleports you there. But yeah, I might just park someone else I never play at Nalak to smack him once a week.
elfin steeple
Wait, the timeless isle trinket takes you to the Throne of Thunder island?
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Not Throne of Thunder, Timeless Isle. But that's good enough to get me to Pandaria, take the flight point out and port to Throne.
elfin steeple
Oh, fair enough!
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Plus, the whole "time travel" bit fits with Bronze Dragonflight magic.
I just wish they'd turn it into a toy, so I don't have to swap trinkets, use it, and swap back.
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
wonderful
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Well, the first step is m0! Besides, you don't need to think about affixes at all until m+7. Buuuut, if you ever get an itch, you know where to find me.
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I just don't know that there's any rewards in Mythic that make the extra difficulty worth it to me.
atomic sonnet
It's mostly mobs/boss have an extra ability, passively or on death or whatever. Or just spend enough time in combat in the dungeon and something happens
Usually the reward at the end of the dungeon is slightly boosed, but the vault reward can be really good
elfin steeple
Yeah, those are cool and all but the real reward are the friends you make along the way.
And transmog.
grizzled parcel
I'll probably just stick to Timewalking, LFR, and (eventually) Delves for the Vault.
elfin steeple
Eh, I tried. 
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I think the only time I enjoyed dungeons was running Heroics in Cata.
My DK was geared well and Blood was in top form for that expansion.
After that I just stopped enjoying them much. I'd run them if a quest required it and that's about it.
Speaking of which, my Rogue has some dungeon quests I can finish with Follower queues now.
elfin steeple
Hmm, say... What was it about dungeons that stopped being enjoyable after that point for you?
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Honestly? Once I knew/experienced the story, I just didn't care about them anymore. The only reason to run them was for gear upgrades, and I've never really cared about that unless it makes it easier for me to some other bit of content I'm enjoying.
Like, MoP I enjoyed doing the dungeons for the story, but then I was basically done with them. Timeless Isle was the only point I was willing to grind, because it gave me easy Account-Bound gear, and had a fun story.
elfin steeple
She can keep hopping alone, I'm good.
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Huh. Could be useful for healers so they know who to let die.
elfin steeple
Could be useful for not getting invited anyway.
elfin steeple
Soonᵗᵐ
atomic sonnet
atomic sonnet
Got em after about 30 min
south steppe
other people's UIs scare me.
elfin steeple
wut, that's like one of the cleanest I've seen. Should see how disorganized and horrible mine is.
too much crap on my screen and loading times taking forever
elvui was a mistake
gusty stratus
YESSSS, got em
south steppe
wut, that's like one of the cleanest I've seen. Should see how disorganized and ...
Everyone else's always scares me
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tulip badger
have you guys seen the old world first Siege of Orgrimmar video by Paragon with the My Little Pony UI
elfin steeple
yes, it was in a bellular video once, I remember.
tulip badger
elfin steeple
that's the one
gusty stratus
based
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🙏
south steppe
this is my UI
tulip badger
(he forgot when I solo healed the last phase of Elegon 10 normal)
but this is a close 2nd
gusty stratus
this is my UI
very clean
tulip badger
Its nice but generally not a great idea to have your health far up in the corner
south steppe
Its nice but generally not a great idea to have your health far up in the corner
I don't like it covering other things.
elfin steeple
I used to use it but I found it too distracting.
my details gets covered by crap all the time
xD
grizzled parcel
YESSSS, got em
Congrats!
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<:SXFAnyaShock:737684510044323930>
cool wallpaper for details addon
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other people's UIs scare me.
I need to get a screenshot of my layout, people would think I'm nuts.
tulip badger
but you have things covering it..
elfin steeple
I'll take a screenshot next time I go into a dungeon
and you'll wonder how I can see anything
tulip badger
Mine still looks like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qHeJy4AsyU
gusty stratus
Mine still looks like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qHeJy4AsyU
I can't play like this, too much stuff going on
tulip badger
theres a lot of procs to keep track of in that expansion
its not so bad now
but the general gist is the same
oh there is a lot of combat text on in this
I turned that off a while ago
very unnecessary
elfin steeple
Aww, tiny Twi
tulip badger
I have some mythic rasz wipes with how I played last time I raided
this is great because it has my twilight sparkle weakaura
its also 200 mb so I wouldnt click it on a mobile phone
elfin steeple
The constant meowing would drive me crazy, but otherwise I love the Twi soundbite.
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It took me a while to dig up, but this was a WA for a trinket before it comes off CD and when it's used. I made this during classic.
Context: I was really, really bored during those molten core runs.
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Turns out this only affects the character who uses it. It is not a toy, it is not account-bound, and it does not unlock across the account when used.
atomic sonnet
atomic sonnet
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crSS340pTxk
I tried to get the boat on my Dracthyr the other day, but apparently she hadn't done some of the quests necessary to get the NPC to spawn. Will have to go back with one of my other chars, or do some questing.
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- Death Knight
- Frost
- All damage dealt increased by 4%. Not applied to PvP Combat.
- Hunter
- Survival
- All damage dealt by Hunter and Hunter’s pet’s abilities is increased by 4%.
Damn, nice buffs there.
atomic sonnet
I tried to get the boat on my Dracthyr the other day, but apparently she hadn't ...
Yeah I think it's separate from the main questhub so it's a small series
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I was planning on running her through the whole 10.1 questline anyway, since I need to get Loam Niffen to 20 at some point & it makes thematic sense for my Dracthyr to be the one diving into the lore.
I completely skipped out on 10.1 when the island was just kicking my ass after it dropped.
atomic sonnet
Fair
I haven't even touched that extra part with the furbolg small quest hub - was added in I think 10.1 and if you grind rep you can learn the furbolg language
(the big world boss in emerald dream says that)
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Oh yeah, there was a questline in 10.0 that starts it, but you couldn't finish until 10.1 dropped. I still need to do that.
Honestly, I love the idea of my Evoker becoming fascinated with Azeroth, and using time-travel to experience all the stuff she missed in previous expansions.
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Mhm! Though I've seen reports of people having trouble where zone transitions are causing them to drop out of Dragonriding.
atomic sonnet
ANd that's why i'll stick to flying with evoker/dh >.>
Built in parachutes,hoooooooo
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Yeah, that's a nice feature. Tons of extra mobility.
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what the
Ohh, it'll give me a ground Raptor mount
Not what I was hoping for from Nalak, but I'll still take it.
atomic sonnet
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https://www.wowhead.com/item=94295/primal-egg
That's how I found out about them. I got a random egg once on nalak lol
then I went to finish them
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Watched a warr streamer and his team time an extremely close +29 dht
Apparently deaths on the last boss don't add to the timer, which they had 2, which would have caused them a fail if it did.
The warrior spell reflected the last bolt the boss shot out and that's what killed him and probably saved their key lol
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Anyone want help with anything?
tulip badger
critical cake?
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yep
tulip badger
hes in my guild
elfin steeple
Ooo, nice!
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I was coming here to post about that. xD
20% dot nerf, 15% on use buff that nobody uses. Awesome.
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It's crazy how they're absolutely married to the on-use ability staying exactly the same, and trying to appease people by messing with the DoTs.
When the part people dislike is the damn on-use ability.
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It's just a stat stick. Oh well, at least it makes good transmog.
What's funnier to me is them finally buffing frost dk for the legendary only to nerf that dot.
I miss Shadowmourne, just give us Firemourne with a rework.
elfin steeple
Nice. Interesting staff. It looks like one that should have a mirror on it, but last minute they decided not to go that route.
grizzled parcel
Oh, that's the backside, I should've had it out.
It's animated and blinks
Plus there's a "sha energy" effect flowing from it. Great item from MoP.
elfin steeple
Very cool. MoP is an expansion I'm missing a metric ton of transmog from. I'll go back during TWW and snag that staff along with other stuff though!
grizzled parcel
Spend some time running Timeless Isle, you'll get a ton of BoA drops that turn into tier look-alikes, and you can send them to alts.
elfin steeple
Oh, okay. That's a good thought. Although, I have to wonder... How will BoA drops like those work next expansion? I wonder if you can use them all on the same character and collect the transmog that way. Guess we'll see!
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You have to use them on an appropriately classed character, sadly. My Dracthyr can't open any of the Mail ones, for instance.
I doubt the xpac will change that, it'll just take stuff that's already bound to you
elfin steeple
Ah, yeah that makes sense. Maybe they'll change that eventually, but probably not I'm guessing.
atomic sonnet
Hm, i forget. Vault in 10 min, or 1h10?
atomic sonnet
Ah.
grizzled parcel
Guess what dropped twice today, when I already have one?
Well, I now have three characters that need to kill Fyraak this week for the quest.
atomic sonnet
vault time
Ooh. On Evoker. Either a tier or trinket, nice
Tier!
Pally who only kills fyrakk lfr weekly... pip's trinket 😄
..and augury on the warrior who just does lfr fyrakk. What's going on.
483 neck on hunter, let's see how that compares to the 460 i have
DK who does the same... 447 gloves. No trinket, boo
Looks like crap on DH
Huh, no , neck is a 2k upgrade even though it's shit stats. Just upgraded and socketed and a near 30 ilevel difference make up for it
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Oh right, I need to install a sim addon
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SimulationCraft! And the website to use is Raidbots
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Well, I only get one choice on my DK, and I'll take it!
Of course, all the Blacksmithing crafting orders are shit. No one ever offers mats or decent profit.
Cloak for my ele shaman
elfin steeple
If it's any consolation, I'd pay you well and send you orders if they were cross realm. :S That trinket you got is pretty good!
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They really need to make orders cross-realm, at least private ones.
atomic sonnet
Maybe by TWW? :x
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Also, I need to figure out how to get a crapton of Knowledge for my Rogue Leatherworker, the mail pants are apparently BiS for my Shaman and my Dracthyr.
atomic sonnet
So in total: Probably best vaults in a while here. challenge char, got a 20 ilevel increase chest, which was turned into tier. 2 of 3 characters who only do LFR fyrakk got trinkets (a pip's and an augury). Third got a 6 ilevel boost on gloves for catalyst too. Hunter and DH both got myth track necks.
/goes to get a lottery ticket
elfin steeple
Ooo, very nice! 
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Okay, gonna do a Superbloom first, then take my DK through LFR Fyraak.
elfin steeple
Don't get a duplicate!
grizzled parcel
I'm sure I will.
atomic sonnet
You can get non duplicates in everblooms?! 
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Purple bracers, I'll take it
atomic sonnet
just did a quick one on shammy. 437 -> 441 gloves but i'll take it
elfin steeple
That's the spirit! Not like you had a choice, but I'm glad you've accepted your fate.
atomic sonnet
Didn't want to catalyst the blue but the purple i will
elfin steeple
Just like I'm about to accept my vault fate
atomic sonnet
🤞
tulip badger
i think you might get the legendary this time.
elfin steeple
The council of Bobbys will see me now.
Huh, how do you do plural for one person's name...
Oh well
tulip badger
with s
elfin steeple
Just looks weird for Bobby for some reason
tulip badger
Yeah I thought you meant boobies
atomic sonnet
Well? We're waiting 
elfin steeple
Hold yer horses! 
grizzled parcel
This Tauren has a pretty badass outfit
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Probably
elfin steeple
OOO
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Ooh, shoulders from the "plant 5 dreamseeds" quest
atomic sonnet
Give us a name, Masque!
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elfin steeple
oh wait, you mean you got that from the quest, that's not part of the set you were showing
atomic sonnet
No it does seem like the emerald dream plate set
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Oh, no, the Tauren ran off before I could check the name
atomic sonnet
I think my pally's wearing some of that come to think of it
elfin steeple
2nd pally legs upgrade, very minor but it works
atomic sonnet
Hm, no, arctic warden plate looks different
grizzled parcel
Now watch me get a tier piece in LFR.
atomic sonnet
Alright, shammy's done rep weekly and seeds, let's see what he gets
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Nice!
elfin steeple
33 ilvl upgrade!
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sadge
warr or dk next hmm
mw getting all the loot luck lol
I got 2 bis trinkets from doing little to nothing
dk next
atomic sonnet
Yar, challenge char
atomic sonnet
(so those gloves for shammy are cata'd, making him the next 4 piece)
Yeah insomn seems to want to stick to dps
elfin steeple
That and I think the tank trinket from the mega dungeon is really sought after
I have to say rip to augury or cata trinkets though
sadge
blood it is though
hmm, I'll come back to the dk. It's either belt or leg tier upgrade
looks like belt though
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LFR popped, let's see how this goes.
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gl!
atomic sonnet
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aww
warr time!
🥁 🧻
Okay! Legs to cata and upgrade to 489
I'll take it
There's a neck too, but I think the stats are bad
I'll sim anyway
damn!
The neck is so bad it's a -2.4k dps decrease from my 476 one
lol
single target.
err hold on, I think I picked the wrong one. Says it has str on it, it does not.
stupid old cata version. Okay, it's still a -300 dps decrease though.
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Aaaand the only thing I got from Tindral was plans for a helm
elfin steeple
easy money? Or easy keep to make?
elfin steeple
Sounds like a plan.
I so funny.
Anyway, I need more crests to make a lariat now.
what is up with the ques with raidbots... Yesterday I had 500 waiting, today I only have 21...
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aaaand absolutely nothing from Fyraak but a Greater Ember
elfin steeple
You mean a "Greater Ember and a Dream!"
You'll get it next time!
Another Greater Ember I mean.
Dreaming is definitely a part of it too though.
atomic sonnet
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Well, I've got three Spark of Dreams now, if I want to make anything with them.
elfin steeple
Perfect time to play around with raidbots and simulationcraft!
And tinker around to see what tickles your fancy.
atomic sonnet
Yep, raidbots site is useful for that
Input your char's data and go to droptimizer
atomic sonnet
High chance it'll suggest trinket/weapon but you can usually ignore that if you have other good ones and see from there
grizzled parcel
Okay, my Rogue still has the Slay Fyraak quest, so I'll run her through a Superbloom then do it.
Oh god, there's like 5 people in this Superbloom
atomic sonnet
You can check the custom lfg to see if there's more
elfin steeple
I need to use up my splinters on all my alts sometime
but I'm pretty sure I spent their flightstones already
stupid flightstones
When you need them you don't have them and when you don't need them they're overflowing your currency tab.
atomic sonnet
Damn quests, stop giving flightstones when i don't need em
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
I saw an ad for people trying to sell mythic Fyrakk only for 24m
jesus
Transfers are free of course, very generous of them.
atomic sonnet
I paid for a mythic gul'dan back in the day for the mount. Was 2 mill at the time 
elfin steeple
That seems like a good deal for the time! Nice.
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
Pretty sure the mount is personal loot on mythic Fyrakk, soooo 24m for a chance at nothing but a title I suppose?
And people inspecting you and poking fun at your carry
ooo, red looks really good on that
atomic sonnet
Maybe so they can get into the pugs that ask for mythic kills for a normal run
elfin steeple
they're not getting in if they actually check their logs on that one random Fyrakk kill.
better luck just joining a guild just starting mythic and building from there.
and then pugging as needed
butttttttttt pass on 200 wipes for one boss prog nearing the middle to the end
I'd probably die of embarrassment if I paid, only to die during phase 1 to some random fire swirly I was blind to.
tulip badger
thats your job in a boost
When I boosted the buyers job was always to die asap as to not screw up any mechanics
elfin steeple
oof
But I wanna pick up the seeds and run into mechanics and wipe the group thoughhhhhhh
So tempting.
tulip badger
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Absolutely nothing from Tindraal on my Rogue
elfin steeple
Tcherno linked this, but I thought I'd bring it here:
https://www.wowhead.com/news/441-boa-catchup-gear-added-to-keystone-vendor-for-flightstones-337312
atomic sonnet
Not true! You have a sense of pride and accomplishment for beating him!
grizzled parcel
Also, I just realized I'v ebeen spelling Fyrakk wrong all this time
elfin steeple
Meh, he's a forgettable boss, he doesn't deserve his name anyway.
shows up for one expansion, wants to burn tree down, ???, dead.
yay for finally having something to spend my flightstones on from my warr
atomic sonnet
He had pretty good vocal performances though, was fun to listen to
elfin steeple
That's true!
grizzled parcel
Got killed in phase 3, but battle res'ed, finished Fyrakk. Aaaand got absolutely nothing from him.
atomic sonnet
You get a vault option 
elfin steeple
Facts!
elfin steeple
Uh, let's see... If you continue to gain rep from sources you can eventually get a chest, which doesn't contain anything useful or good. Sources that give you a rep token, make said token boa, I believe?
atomic sonnet
Same, though it's not 2500 I think, but like 7500? ish?
Same as before though otherwise. You get a supply box but these tend to not have mounts or pets
grizzled parcel
Ah, okay, so it'll be a while.
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I got a soulbound 2500 rep for killing Fyrakk, but I've got a few BoAs from quests and such.
atomic sonnet
Best use there is if you want to level up an alt for item level The rep has a... 441 ish item and a 450+ I think on the vendor?
Both of which can be catalyst'd
elfin steeple
clever, very clever, yes that's a great idea!
atomic sonnet
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ooh, ty I forgot
lol
doing normal skip run for lego on dk
90% pally/dk/warr
as always
grizzled parcel
Bah. Was doing Community Feast for the rep, but it spawned one of the monsters while I was in the "encourage participants" thing, so I lost my ability button at 7/8 and can't complete it now.
Plus side, I hit rep 24 anyway, which grants a ton of Knowledge for both your Professions.
elfin steeple
very nice!
grizzled parcel
Whohuhwhat
elfin steeple
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Sweet, picking up that Dream Saber must've pushed me up there.
elfin steeple
Nothing better than a cool surprise achievement!
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
I have enough drake crests on my dk to turn into 45 wyrm crests :S
rules don't say I can't buttttttttttt
I won't
elfin steeple
Okay, tried out one of those 441 chest things
they're on the veteran track
going to see if I can cata
atomic sonnet
Flightstones one?
elfin steeple
yep!
atomic sonnet
Would be pretty awesome, finally a flightstone dump
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can have extra stats too (forgot the name of them) has speed on mine.
Yep!
Can cata!
holyyyyyy
huge
at least the boots I got can
I assume other pieces can too
Not sure why they have it as random though... Why can't we choose!?
more rng bullshit
atomic sonnet
Would allow people to finish stuff too fast
elfin steeple
IT'S HALFWAY THROUGH THE SEASON
WHO
THE FUCK
CARES
Sorry.
Cough
Wait... these are pieces from M+
atomic sonnet
the monthly subs care, if people 'finish' their goals they'll let the subs lapse
elfin steeple
I got a dht ring and boots from... dht too?
wonder if you can get m+ trinkets...
ring had a socket too!
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elfin steeple
It's nice, but be careful using it on alts with a lot of 441 slots done already
grizzled parcel
Yeah, this will be for new characters with lots of flightstones, I think.
atomic sonnet
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atomic sonnet
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Alright, time to kill Fyrakk on my Warlock and I'm done with everyone who currently has the quest.
I need to get my Shaman and Evoker through the main questline, then maybe level my Druid next time there's a Timewalking event.
elfin steeple
Next week should be timewalking
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Well, this LFR is already on Fyrakk.
elfin steeple
That kind of sucks for your warlock, missing out on a good trinket from Tindral
Also, I'm pretty sure my ally ret paladin has both bis raid trinkets from just one slot of lfr in vault in a few weeks.
They're going to be the one to get lego out of anyone.
grizzled parcel
Wow
elfin steeple
I've won really good stuff with low rolls in the past
in classic especially lol
When RNG hates you but hates everyone else even more
Oh, cool. Pally on fyrakk instantly
I rarely get to go straight to Fyrakk on LFR, so I'll take it!
atomic sonnet
but you miss out on vault option!
elfin steeple
eh, I just want lego
this pally already has good trinkets
No luck on dk/pally so far
loot drop was also bleh
Oh, highly recommend doing lfr ques for old mounts while you wait for DF lfr que to pop since it'll only pop after you finish your mount run.
Been doing that for G.M.O.D. while I wait.
works like a charm
Can also just do that to delay the que pop and afk for a bit if you have to so you don't miss your que
I think I'm going to ditch elvui on every character minus maybe my healers. I hate the loading times with it
grizzled parcel
Yeah, I haven't used it since Legion. It was just too buggy/slow
atomic sonnet
Yeah I stopped a while back. The changes they made to default UI, and add a few other addons to that, and you're good
Alright, dinner nommed, time to lfr fyrakk
elfin steeple
Good luck!
atomic sonnet
Hold yer horses! <:grannysmithgetoffmylawn:585610062656176144>
Found it
Campaign too, so it's easiest to get
atomic sonnet
There's a few variations, sec
atomic sonnet
First two are path of ascension - each covenant had a kind of "extra mini game" activity that you'd unlock at a certain point after spending a bunch of anima to upgrade it. You could get varying rewards like pets and mounts and some transmogs
And then just renown levels
atomic sonnet
Default golden looks badass, full white looks awesome and purple looks sinister
This one looks... rusted 
elfin steeple
Ol' rust bucket set!
It's a classic.
It's the construct additional pylons set.
Weird, but somehow I bugged out Jaina on my DK and killed her before she teleported off the boat.
She just stood there for a solid 10 seconds not doing anything
atomic sonnet
Existantial crisis
elfin steeple
Maybe she's just tired after 200 something attempts...
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
yus
elfin steeple
wtf
normal set looks unfinished
It's like they built off the mythic set and said "let's just remove parts for lower difficulties!"
atomic sonnet
oh my sweet jesus, tomb of sargeras
It's fucking wild
Gonna post these one by one for effect 'cause god damn
elfin steeple
that one is weird
atomic sonnet
atomic sonnet
that one is weird
wait for it... (i think i need to gif this last one)
tulip badger
arent all the tomb sets based on t6
elfin steeple
is that right?
tulip badger
yeah unless your class didnt exist in t6
elfin steeple
huh
tulip badger
ye I just double checked cause I only remembered paladin and warrior but its all the original classes
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
That's kind of cool. I wouldn't mind some more re-imaginings of old sets in the future for seasons like season 4 lol.
Ooo
atomic sonnet
Mythic is just going extra on that one
tulip badger
ive used this transmog a lot and this glow seems way stronger than it usually is
atomic sonnet
Hellfire citadel's pretty badass too aaaand queue popped
grizzled parcel
Ugh. realizing I never finished the Warlock Green Fire quest back in the day, so I need to start it over again.
atomic sonnet
Nice, pally got neck from tindral
No leggo tho or win anything from tindral :<
Shoulderblade thingies move
grizzled parcel
... wait, it says I already completed the quest when I try to use the codex.
Ah, okay. It still retained my progress, I just had to go do the last boss of the scenario (where I failed back in MoP)
grizzled parcel
Okay, got green fire, swapped to Destruction and holy crap, my lock hits hard. o.o
atomic sonnet
And nothing for dk :<
elfin steeple
Affliction is actually pretty good in raid according to logs.
rip this week's lego dream. I still have one more chance with the warr tomorrow.
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
Woah, you even have 2 shiny (red) warriors. Very rare.
atomic sonnet
Not me, Jamba's screenshot
elfin steeple
and none of them got lego I bet
atomic sonnet
Apparently he led this group so it's on purpose?
elfin steeple
Should have forced them to go arms so they can all coordinate bladestorms at the same time.
atomic sonnet
And of course record it on video
elfin steeple
Absolutely!
grizzled parcel
Destro/demo especially
My Demo build must've been sub-par then. I took a Destro build off Icy Veins and good lord it hits.
atomic sonnet
i think the stats needed for both are fairly different. Haste mastery vs crit haste or something, so they don't necessarily carry over
elfin steeple
@atomic sonnet I know it's pretty late but we're doing 1 +21 brh with poxi and rus if you're around lol
atomic sonnet
nah too late
elfin steeple
ye
atomic sonnet
atomic sonnet
Is not me, but it's a funny pic. Walking your pet dracthyr 
grizzled parcel
I didn't even catch that.
Was messing around with simming yesterfday, and I haven't quite figured it out yet.
atomic sonnet
Nice. got the campfire while watching a streamer, pressed claim and it delivered like 30 seconds later while i was in-game
grizzled parcel
Yeah, I left SoulSoBreezy running on my PC while I made dinner last night, claimed it when it was done, and it was available when I logged in on my laptop to do some Work Orders.
elfin steeple
Guess that one tank was a multi-boter that controlled 17 dps and 5 healers.
Oh well, you'll get the next one in 30 minutes.
elfin steeple
Huh, would have thought more than that.
atomic sonnet
weapon's outdated so not too surprised
elfin steeple
Might not be for long! There's a chance they increase its ilvl in S4 like they had for the SL bow.
grizzled parcel
I'm tempted to use a Spark to either make a staff for my Evoker, or just make an off-hand Codex with it since I've got a 441 caster dagger.
elfin steeple
Need two sparks to make a staff
grizzled parcel
Oh, good point
elfin steeple
grizzled parcel
Oh that's why I got a title last night.
atomic sonnet
grizzled parcel
Oh, I think that might be one of the "out of bounds" insta kills, it must've just bugged and got him there by accident.
Or I guess one of the rolling boulders from the staircase wigged out. Either way.
grizzled parcel
https://www.wowhead.com/news/dragonflight-epilogue-hotfixed-to-grant-new-title-3...
I guess I should do the epilogue on the other characters who killed Fyrakk.
This puts the whole classic Onyxia questline in a new light for me. 
atomic sonnet
Oh, I think that might be one of the "out of bounds" insta kills, it must've jus...
Nah, it's the insects debuff that stuns you from the boss. But the combat log is saying it's the stair boulders instead
grizzled parcel
Ah! Gotcha.
atomic sonnet
Hence, visible confusion
elfin steeple
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/19exz3z/whats_the_most_evil_thing_the_play...
Dragonflight: <You are busy. Get up and leave> instead of "Sit and look at the view" with Veritistrasz
That's the most diabolical thing ever.
atomic sonnet
https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/25/24049050/microsoft-activision-blizzard-layoff...
Probably a metric fuckton of those are duplicate jobs since Actiblizz is big and Xbox is huge. It's about 22000 employees pre these layoffs. And then cutting down on some unsure projects - they've cancelled the survival game for instance
grizzled parcel
Plus, apparently some businesses will fire & rehire someone after a merger, because they don't have an equivalent position but still want their skills
atomic sonnet
Hopefully that'll catch a few
elfin steeple
I know you worked for ActiBlizzard for 15 years... But how would you like to have no seniority and start over with a lower pay grade again!?
elfin steeple
tbh I don't know enough about him, most of the other founders, their positions and contributions to know whether I should be concerned or not or have a good opinion about.
atomic sonnet
grizzled parcel
Yeah, that's been sitting on the back burner for so long, the entire genre has withered.
grizzled parcel
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
Now the question is: why?
grizzled parcel
Simple answers?
1: When they first came out, they were a Hero Class that let you get right to the endgame without traditional leveling. So people used that as a shortcut, but often didn't bother to learn how to actually play the class.
2: When DHs are top DPS, they inherit the "I'm the best, shut up" people.
3: Edgelords who worship Illidan tend to be the same kind of assholes who think Fight Club was an instruction manual, not a warning.
elfin steeple
...Do people actually use that movie as a manual unironically?
don't answer that.
DK's must have been that back in wrath then
When they were insanely broken.
Monks and evokers were chill though
I think
Not sure if monks are/were considered hero classes though
grizzled parcel
DK's must have been that back in wrath then
Oh yeah, Wrath DKs were full of assholes who wanted to be edgy and DKs were horribly OP at launch. Especially in PvP, a group of DKs could chain death grip a target, effectively keeping them stun-locked until they died.
Monks were normal classes, you had to level them from 1.
Evokers are a hero class, but ... a lot of people just refused to play them.
elfin steeple
What!? Who wouldn't want to play an evoker. They're cute af.
grizzled parcel
oh god, you haven't seen the Reddit threads then. 
grizzled parcel
Admittedly, the reduced casting range is a PITA, but otherwise they're fun.
Lack of transmog and limited Visage forms is are the real pain points for most.
elfin steeple
I think evoker feels better as a healer, or it did. They have a few abilities you can use that extend further than your typical range spells.
As dps? Nah.
Haven't tried aug yet though
so can't comment on that
atomic sonnet
I kinda love it as dps, the hover/dodge mobility is amazing
elfin steeple
Hover is fun
Their temporal anomaly as a healer is insanely fun as you get to duplicate heals across all your party members and you get to choose which ones you want to duplicate.
and you have to line it up to hit as many people as you can
but they don't feel the same now with the emerald blossom stuff
it's wonky
grizzled parcel
Aug is one of those things that sounds good on paper, and I would absolutely not enjoy playing.
elfin steeple
It's badly designed from what I understand from a balance prospective perspective
atomic sonnet
It's pretty fun in 5 man while the abilities auto-target the relevant party members. Bigger than that and having to actually focus and decide who to target... naaah
elfin steeple
err, wrong word
grizzled parcel
From what I've been reading, it does shit DPS but still gets invites because it boosts everyone else so much that it doesn't matter.
I'll just stick to Destruction and make things go away.
atomic sonnet
Masque: part of that is the damage meters can't correctly track the boost, so it looks like the damage buffs that aug brings is just more dps/healing/etc for the rest of the group
If it could attribute the damage it helps boost to itself then the numbers would be good to great
grizzled parcel
Blizz really just needs to build their own meters into the game and be done with it.
elfin steeple
Why would they do that when other people do it for them for free?
grizzled parcel
Because the free versions clearly don't have access to the correct info.
tulip badger
theres no paid damage meters just for the record
tulip badger
dunno why details cant track augmentation evokers output but logs can
atomic sonnet
atomic sonnet
dunno why details cant track augmentation evokers output but logs can
I think it's something to do with that particular info not showing up in the combat logs that are in-game, but do appear on the ones that are from combat logs, which I think is a file on the drive or something? I forget.
grizzled parcel
Ah yes, herding cats
atomic sonnet
Twitter
elfin steeple
@atomic sonnet Doing +20 tott and need one dps
atomic sonnet
yar
grizzled parcel
So many of these are "I forgot the class I was playing had no way to avoid falling to their death."
atomic sonnet
grizzled parcel
grizzled parcel
Isn't it just beautiful? So confident they had the solution in the moment, and yet still wrong.
elfin steeple
I feel like I might end up doing that some day too, because my plate wearers have similar armor.
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
Back when there was a glyph system I was on my mage and I wanted to jump the highest peak in Storm Peaks for the fun of it.
I did not have the light feather gylph on to remove the cost of using light feathers for slow fall.
Nor did I have light feathers for slow fall...
and I forgot I could blink lol
grizzled parcel
Oh god, I forgot you used to need a feather for that.
WoW showing its D&D roots there.
elfin steeple
It was pretty silly to have abilities that required materials and for so long.
Shamans needed scales for water breathing but warlocks didn't
elfin steeple
Oof, the shame of forgetting to bring seeds to raid.
Warlocks not being able to summon people from outside in raids
I think Paladins needed some candle or maybe it was priests for something, can't remember for what.
That might have been TBC mass buffs, nvm.
atomic sonnet
I seem to recall something about warlocks needing to dye to summon a particular pet? Or rather, a chance to die
elfin steeple
Oh yes! The doomwalker, I think? You needed 5 total people to summon it, and one person would die.
randomly
grizzled parcel
Yeah, that sounds right
elfin steeple
then you had to tame it as a lock with your one ability
and it could break out of it at any moment and start randomly attacking people lol
It was a big troll thing to do in lower level zones or capitals
I always found doing the quest chains for those special abilities were gratifying to complete, but only once. I would never do it again, but it was a nice flavor thing.
Like the long quest chain for the warlock mount, eventually leading into a dungeon where you had to summon a special boss to get it.
atomic sonnet
"in an m+, I press the button I normally have death & decay bound to. I'm playing shaman, and gust myself off the edge of a platform."
elfin steeple
I've been trying to be consistent with my keybinds across my characters recently to avoid that and confusion.
atomic sonnet
I always double jump a lot on my DH so when I jump and can't double, it's like a strong reminder I'm not on my dh/evoker
grizzled parcel
So, waaaaaay back in the day, I printed out a blank keyboard image and wrote down where I wanted each ability to be. Then I laid out my bars to be as close to that as possible, and made sure every alt used similar positions (like "W is the main AoE attack").
grizzled parcel
I use the entire left side of the keyboard for my keybinds.
Oh right, I never did show my UI
I'll do that tonight or tomorrow.
grizzled parcel
But yeah. Left hand rests on ASDF, so I can reach a crapton of keys all with my left hand. Movement is with the mouse, either holding down both buttons, or using a side button for auto-run.
elfin steeple
Honestly, that's kind of cool. I'd like to have my wasd freed up for abilities but I have one of those mice with "12345..." on it so I feel like it'd be too much to concentrate on for that one hand.
For games that use the arrows/spacebar only I cross my hands to play for some reason. Like my right on spacebar and left on arrows. No idea why, but it feels right.
grizzled parcel
Yeah, all my abilities are on bars, I've just got those bars all mapped to the left side of the keyboard. So like, A is whatever instant-cast attack I want to spam all the time, while C is usually a crowd control ability, etc.
elfin steeple
What do you use to strafe or turn? Extra mouse buttons?
atomic sonnet
USING "W" AS AN ABILITY BUTTON!?
So I work as a GM for a different MMO, and I sometimes have to possess accounts to fix a thing or two
The number of times where i've seen people change the basic movement keybinds
HERESY
elfin steeple
lol
grizzled parcel
I'll be honest, I never strafe. Right click the mouse to turn the camera and run in that direction is what I do.
But the main reason I did this is for the jump-shot trick I learned from an old WoW YouTuber, BRK.
Basically you run away from the mob to kite them, then jump, flick the camera around with right-click on the mouse while you're in the air, use an instant-cast ability to damage them, then flick the camera back to the direction you're moving before you hit the ground.
elfin steeple
So I work as a GM for a different MMO, and I sometimes have to possess accounts ...
I have no idea why, but for some reason I imagine you were a GM for swtor.
also NO STRAFING!?
Masque!
atomic sonnet
That's because I am and have probably told you 😛
elfin steeple
I, actually don't think you have. I just connected it through EA. I can double check our convo's but yeah.
Edit: you have not.
grizzled parcel
I've never really found a good use for strafing when I can jump-shot.
elfin steeple
What's a... jump shot?
elfin steeple
Oh, for some reason I completely missed that part of your paragraph. Happens when I space out, a lot...
Sorry. That's pretty cool though!
grizzled parcel
It's very useful for kiting mobs solo, or just continuing to damage something while getting out of the fire.
elfin steeple
I was going to say that this video feels vintage, a nice sort of vintage, but vintage. Good god, 15 years ago though.
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
It did feel awkward to kite mobs as a melee with a mouse when you had to constantly turn to face them so you don't get dazed.
hmm
idk I might be too stuck in the wasd ways though
atomic sonnet
I don't strafe with specific buttons, I hold my right mouse button down and then the A or D button wile pressing forward
At least in WOW
elfin steeple
A and D are my strafe
I'm boring
So wait, that's slightly confusing. You have to hold your right mouse button down, W and then A/D to move side to side?
Or do you mean diagonally?
atomic sonnet
Side to side, yes
I use strafe buttons normally in other games but 20 years of this in WOW... habits, man
elfin steeple
Huh, yeah I get that. Habits a bitch.
atomic sonnet
atomic sonnet
Twitter
elfin steeple
I want them to do it just so I can see some bat shit takes people have about it.
Fuck it. Let's add raid RNG mounts too.
atomic sonnet
Go to reddit and twitter, people are already salty
elfin steeple
Okay, are they mad because of a 10yr AOTC mount, or are they mad about what this could mean and stuff Blizzard hasn't announced yet?
atomic sonnet
mad because "why even do aotc"
atomic sonnet
Indeed
elfin steeple
Obviously within reason anyway. I feel like 10yrs of having something unobtainable is pretty good. A lot of people who played back then don't play anymore, and most reasonable people won't care after that long and likely haven't used the mount in a long time.
Heck, I rarely use my Legion AOTC mount and if they want to add that one at some point, sure. People forget that they got an achievement for it too, which is not something people are getting again.
atomic sonnet
M+ tracking yes, vault not so much. Or at least you need to show "all data" and then it shows a ? for the key, which means it's waiting
But when you show data it shows every single currency and stuff for every char
So the window goes from maybe 10 lines x say, 4 active chars
To for me, 11 chars x maybe 60+ lines of stuff from even old currencies
Actually maybe 100 lines, 60 feels low
elfin steeple
That's a lot to look at, you're right about the cleaner look then
95% of the currencies I have I haven't touched in years
atomic sonnet
Ah did you check it yourself?
elfin steeple
Savedinstances? No. I just compared Alterego to what you described.
atomic sonnet
Then lemme show what I meant
Normal savedinstances
The red line is where the ? would appear if ther ewas something waiting in the vault
elfin steeple
Okay, that's not too... HOLY SHIT
atomic sonnet
And that's the only way it'll appear even if the other alts have something in the vault. They won't show up until you log in and check the vault yourself to get a key
elfin steeple
Yeah, that's what I thought you meant
atomic sonnet
press Alt to "show all data" and then all data literally shows up
elfin steeple
That's pretty inconvenient then.
atomic sonnet
Yar. Will have to see with next reset how alter ego handles that
elfin steeple
I had the addon on classic just to track how quickly I was running instances since you could only do 5/hr. Had no idea they expanded this much in retail.
atomic sonnet
The rewards thing is what I mainly want, especially on TW weeks where i foget if someone has something
elfin steeple
That's a very good point. I probably have a couple I forgot about entirely
atomic sonnet
Already useful, didn't know i had rewards on priest
Oh right i did check but forgot to sim
elfin steeple
Ooo, that's a nice trinket
elfin steeple
Yus
atomic sonnet
Twitter
elfin steeple
yep
lol
but, but... they go away after a patch! It's not fair to those who bought them during the patch!
not that I bought mine, just for your information fyi, skill issues to those who do but, but yeah, not fair
grizzled parcel
I'm fine with items becoming available 10 fucking years after the achievement. And people still have the achievement if they want to show off.
atomic sonnet
atomic sonnet
stabs superblooms
Bloom + weekly + seeds... get helm and shoulders. Which I already have at same ilevel, already converted in catalyst
Now to try the world boss...
ah, alterego doesn't track superblooms. Poo
nada
elfin steeple
elfin steeple
I like the renown weakaura in the left-mid. I see you have another one next to your world boss timers but I can't make out what it tracks exactly.
I've been slowly removing bars from my characters and have been using the opie addon to mouse-over and select hearthstones, toys, buffs, etc...
grizzled parcel
I like the renown weakaura in the left-mid. I see you have another one next to y...
Basically, you can set a goal Renown for some of the factions, and it'll estimate how many events you need to participate in to reach said goal. I don't pay much attention to it.
elfin steeple
Oh, that's kind of cool. If they update it for the following expansion I will add it, but I'll save the addon for now. Thanks!
grizzled parcel
Welcome!
This does the renown WA you mentioned, and there's an optional add-on for the caculator on the same page.
They also had one to track your Profession Knowledge, but it broke with 10.2 and they haven't finished fixing it yet.
elfin steeple
Okay, the profession one being able to track weekly quests across characters would be very nice. Not right now obviously, since I'm not touching DF's professions anymore, but if they carry it into TWW, that's something I'd look for immediately.
Wonder if it could track which artifacts I've picked up for professions on characters... Those things that are one-time and give you 3 knowledge each.
Doesn't look like it, that too would be nice.
Speaking of professions, I have no idea what they could do to iterate off of the current system without it eventually feeling bad again. I almost think they need another complete overhaul. Mostly for the crafting order system, but also perhaps a system that lets you reset your knowledge points, and/or a catch-up system.
Because at the start I thought it felt great! It's just that it felt worse and worse overtime. I think mainly because although I wanted to level it on alts, I also felt like I'd be so far behind that what was the point?
I think the best part about the system is being able to send in crafting orders from your alts.
grizzled parcel
Wonder if it could track which artifacts I've picked up for professions on chara...
The old WA did, that was very useful.
elfin steeple
aw, that's a shame that it doesn't anymore.
I guess maybe some api changes made it more difficulty/impossible to do, or maybe they had some issues with it and had to remove it so they didn't want to deal with the constant complaints.
grizzled parcel
Yeah, my understanding is there was an API change & it needed cleaning up, but their day job was keeping them busy so they're focused on the main WA.
Oh, apparently I never updated since 10.2, so I had to reinstall the base WA.
atomic sonnet
Tama's is both the profession reminder and the renown one, I believe. Very configurable
grizzled parcel
The profession module is what's currently broken
Huh, apparently they're at least considering making it a standalone addon.
https://trello.com/b/kV1kjx7S/tamas-wow-projects
elfin steeple
started considering 7 months ago, but here's hoping!
atomic sonnet
Ah yes, the usual time of "wowhead's trying to think up how to spam the front page with articles"
So now they're doing retrospectives of DF and wishes for TWW... for every single spec
grizzled parcel
Yuuuup
I only read the one for Ele Shaman which... seems about accurate. Blizz keeps trying to force certain playstyles, instead of giving choices.
atomic sonnet
Yeah i've read the havoc one. Which is overall accurate saying that the current spec is some of the best it's ever been... but it also completely ignores the no mover options
grizzled parcel
This little shit
atomic sonnet
Twitter
elfin steeple
This little shit
Aww
grizzled parcel
Literally put her paw on the monitor and shoved it so she could streach
elfin steeple
You need a side table to put the cushion on for her
atomic sonnet
grizzled parcel
Ha
elfin steeple
lol
grizzled parcel
You need a side table to put the cushion on for her
There's a heated bed on the floor by my computer. She insists on the desk.
elfin steeple
Human comfort > heat
elfin steeple
Ooo, yus that red helm fits better
The cloak probably isn't that special for the set?
atomic sonnet
True
elfin steeple
It's kind of cool that the chest looks like a tabard with the symbol
atomic sonnet
i swapped it out for another tier's color, the other tier is dark/black and clashes
elfin steeple
Gotcha, although it must have been a pretty bad dark color if it can't match dark red lol
grizzled parcel
Ooh, is that a monk or a shaman?
atomic sonnet
atomic sonnet
Gotcha, although it must have been a pretty bad dark color if it can't match dar...
Orange on black. Fits with the helm, I think, but without the helm it kinda clashes
Normal colors, but the balls aren't red :X
The balls are on pretty much everything except legs, chest and bracers
Drawback: since I hit with fists, the swords stay on my back while fighting
elfin steeple
It's weird that monk's don't have a toggle option to hide weapons entirely
And yes, you're right. I see that chest clashing without the helm.
atomic sonnet
To be fair. The swords are maybe a little bit off compared to the rest of the set
But I just love that sword, it's such a badass look
elfin steeple
It is a little bit, but if you like it, you like it.
atomic sonnet
Even without the helm, already looks good :X
and the fists from back here?
elfin steeple
I didn't even notice that before, they looks weird. Are those fist weapons, a bug, or something else?
elfin steeple
atomic sonnet
Yes
elfin steeple
I think cata timewalking is this coming week
Best timewalking week, since one dungeon counts as 2 for the quest.
atomic sonnet
atomic sonnet
Does work but i wanted to try out the swords :X
elfin steeple
those are nice too
having no pink is blasphemy though
I want a refund
even though I didn't play monk in legion
and it's been several years
atomic sonnet
atomic sonnet
pinkish-white?
elfin steeple
I think it's mostly the bronze
grizzled parcel
Hm. I need to see if there's a purple variant. I might have to roll a Void Elf Monk.
elfin steeple
Oh, that's a nice teal.
grizzled parcel
Darn
elfin steeple
This is a void elf purple weapon for sure: https://www.wowhead.com/item=190006/anima-siphoning-sword
atomic sonnet
I was thinking of the red one for the monk
elfin steeple
for masque
atomic sonnet
But those fit with everything and everyone uses them so meh 😛
grizzled parcel
pinkish-white?
Hm. I like this appearance, but it requires doing a M+ 15 key.
grizzled parcel
This is a void elf purple weapon for sure: https://www.wowhead.com/item=190006/a...
Yes, that definitely would work
elfin steeple
For Tcherno
atomic sonnet
I have that
elfin steeple
darn
atomic sonnet
