World of Warcraft | Manechat | Page 15

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 4:20 PM

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But wait... Buggy... Like... Silithis!?

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 4:20 PM

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... guess I am finishing the trading post this month then. rdwut

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 4:21 PM

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angeldidnothingwrong

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 5:44 PM

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https://vxtwitter.com/ActuallyArcane/status/1720516042655723799

vxTwitter

Never could I have imagined that a small moment of joy could spark such a celebration of Inclusion We all deserve to see ourselves in the games we love 💜 #BlizzCon #Diablo #DiabloIV 💖 94

✨ Arcane➡️ BlizzCon ✨💙 (@ActuallyArcane)

Never could I have imagined that a small moment of joy could spark such a celebration of Inclusion

We all deserve to see ourselves in the games we love 💜

#BlizzCon #Diablo #DiabloIV

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▶ Play video

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 5:45 PM

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Oh nice, she was there!

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 5:46 PM

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Yus!

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This tweet even got replies from the D4 director and Ybarra

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 5:46 PM

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rarityspeechless

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 5:46 PM

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Overall pretty cool 🙂

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https://vxtwitter.com/emeelzia/status/1720582121650348236 and on the funnier side 😄

vxTwitter

I can’t believe this happened. I knew I was going to be in a video but I didn’t know it was going to be shown AT THE OPENING CEREMONY!!!?!?!! What a surreal and amazing experience. Listening to everyone laugh b… 💖 321

emeelzia @ BlizzCon! (@emeelzia)

I can’t believe this happened.

I knew I was going to be in a video but I didn’t know it was going to be shown AT THE OPENING CEREMONY!!!?!?!!

What a surreal and amazing experience. Listening to everyone laugh b…

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▶ Play video

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 5:49 PM

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What a wild and very opening the first day was after years of no Blizzcon.

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Going to be hard to top this year's.

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 5:49 PM

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dracthyr_nod

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I don't think they're going to try

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 5:49 PM

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Especially now that we know the next three expansions... LUL

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Yeah, probably not.

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 5:49 PM

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Exactly rdsnrk

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I think the only thing that would carry as much weight would be fully unveiling that survival game

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 5:50 PM

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That and Microsoft revitalizing OW to the game we all know and love.

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I think that would drive people wild too

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SC3 as well

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 5:51 PM

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Yus

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 5:51 PM

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It's about... damn... time...

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 5:51 PM

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I do wonder if M$'s influence will change some of the monetization. They did change quite a bit in Halo Infinite's for example

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 5:52 PM

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Mmm... Yeah I do wonder that too... The start of Infinite was extremely rough... The monetization is still bad but less-so. They did good with the AOE2 remaster.

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I'm not sure how they could make it much more worse besides offering tender on the store

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realistically

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Maybe by including an actual battle pass? That would be horrible.

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 5:53 PM

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For infinite I don't play it so I don't know all the details, but I know for example that they made it so that when a season/battlepass ends, you can still swap between battlepasses and progress towards the one you choose to get the loot you want

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Rather than you miss it, it's gone

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 5:55 PM

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yeah that's all fine and well but I'm still salty they did the sneaky thing where they made the campaign cost full-retail and the multiplayer "free" so they could add all that microtransaction stuff as an excuse.

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 5:56 PM

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That was on release, the change I said is something after release. On release the battlepass was the same miss it and its gone garbage that most others are

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So it's a change that was based on feedback

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 5:56 PM

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It was a change based on declining numbers more like it...

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But yes.

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Feedback.

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 5:56 PM

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(Both? Both.)

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 5:56 PM

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Definitely both. 😄

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This current season is actually pretty fun. So, they've made solid changes so far.

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A lot more casual friendly fun

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and not so focused on ranking

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 5:57 PM

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Okay, what we were discussing yesterdaay

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I think you were right in the plate/mail/leather/cloth thing

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Looking at the belt items... grenades make me think hunter.

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 5:58 PM

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I could see the leather as a monk too

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orbs on side of waist

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but that could be poison

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 5:58 PM

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I'd sayu poison, those are def flasks

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 5:58 PM

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belt reminds me of monk though

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hard to say

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ah dagger on shoulders

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rogue

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 5:59 PM

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Yah I just saw those LUL

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 5:59 PM

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flutternod

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grenade, hunter for survival yeah

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makes sense

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 5:59 PM

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Yep

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 5:59 PM

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100% paladin

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 5:59 PM

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And A BISHOP HAT on cloth

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Hmmmmmmmm

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 5:59 PM

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and 90% priest

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99%

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 5:59 PM

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Obviously a mage! rdwut

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 6:00 PM

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I'd like to see a darker version of that for shadow priest

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 6:00 PM

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tl'dr they all look cool and I hope we get those sets

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 6:00 PM

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yeah they all look great

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 6:00 PM

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Okay, I love that Rogue/leather set

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 6:00 PM

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10.2 cloth/leather/mail/plate stuff from zone looks good too

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I'm impressed

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all around good

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colors too

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I love mail the most I think but it's close with leather

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plate not far behind

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cloth helm is the only thing that makes me roll my eyes a little because we've seen it a billion times

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 6:18 PM

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40 min!

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 6:19 PM

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I'll probably wind up with a new patient right in the middle of it, but oh well.

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 6:25 PM

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Tell 'em that lil' timmy's cough that just started an hour ago and the fact that he's only ever coughed once in his life isn't something that should be an immediate concern to the parent.

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 6:28 PM

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Heh. It's an ATV rollover accident, he went into cardiac arrest in the ED, his chest was cracked & they did an open cardiac massage.

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 6:29 PM

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cadwhy Okay, uh... that's not certainly not what I was expecting.

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 6:30 PM

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🎶 It's another wonderful day in Trauma 🎶

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 6:38 PM

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🎶 It's another wonderful day in Trauma 🎶
🎶 Trauma, trauma 🎶
🎶 Get ready for a plethora of Drama 🎶
🎶 Drama, drama 🎶
🎶 Patients calling in feeling numb from head to toe 🎶
🎶 Oh, no! 🎶
🎶 Let's go! Hit the road! 🎶
🎶 EMT on their way 🎶
🎶 We'll be right there 🎶
🎶 Don't you dare 🎶
🎶 Move that neck 🎶
🎶 It's another wonderful day in Trauma 🎶
🎶 Trauma, trauma... 🎶

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Sorry, couldn't help myself.

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 6:53 PM

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6 minutes

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 6:56 PM

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I wonder how delves are going to work with more than one person but less than, say... four... Like if you go in with 2 people should both be dps or would it be better to have one as a tank/healer?

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I feel like the vast majority of people are just going to solo

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 6:57 PM

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Yeah

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 6:58 PM

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But it depends on how they tune things. Like, if 2 players doesn't = 100% more health to mobs but like 80%... Then it would be ideal to just bring two extremely strong dps. There's a lot of questions to be had... Like does solo = the same level rewards as 5 people? It's hard to wrap my head around.

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Honestly, I think delves should NOT delve into killing mobs and stuff like M+... I think instead if would be cool to solve puzzles and other things instead but idk.

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:00 PM

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Well, the deep dive for wow is starting shortly so i think we'll see more aboiut that. Hopefully

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Oh it's starting!

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:00 PM

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AHHH

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:00 PM

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Here we goooooo

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:00 PM

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It's Ion!

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:00 PM

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The shirt

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starlightwheeze

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:01 PM

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dracthyr_lulmao

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:01 PM

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Delves #1 on the list... rdlol

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:01 PM

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"Oooooh" LUL

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:02 PM

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GIVE US AFFIXES PLEASE

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lmao

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jk

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pls no

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:02 PM

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I would guess it's like islands or the visions

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:02 PM

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ah, island expos

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Torghast but good. Got it. Takes notes

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Wait was that...

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Uh, shoot what's his name...

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:04 PM

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the british guy?

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:04 PM

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ye

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:05 PM

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YEah i know who you mean.I dunno but i had the same thought

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:05 PM

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I think it was

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Ohhhhh

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okayyyyyyy

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:05 PM

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preach

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:05 PM

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So... dark souls fog wall?

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yeah that's it

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:06 PM

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Nice, no loading screen

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:06 PM

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Season 2 Sylvanas in the Maw

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I know people would be 50/50 on that. I wouldn't mind.

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:07 PM

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So the NPC will be kinda like the Garrison NPC you could have with you in WoD, just with more personality & customization.

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:07 PM

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yeah I think so

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A disturbance in the force

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:08 PM

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I won't respond much, using my treadmill and watching this rdwut

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multitasking!

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:08 PM

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GO FASTER

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IF YOU CAN RESPOND YOU'RE GOING TOO SLOW!

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rdsnrk

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:09 PM

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"YOU NO TAKE CANDLE"
wham
"OKAY, YOU TAKE CANDLE"

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:10 PM

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dies

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:10 PM

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Okay, so we still have to do outdoor content to get keys.

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Ah, delve locations sound like they're fixed, but the delves can switch.

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:11 PM

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Ah, delves are like the 10.0.5 thing on that island.

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:11 PM

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Mushrooms that act as jump pads?
Wahoo!

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:11 PM

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Yipee!

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Yay, Masque can experience disappointment with us.

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Except me, my luck is just too good. rdawwyeah

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:14 PM

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"It took a few years to get that through to us." rdsnrk

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:14 PM

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It took several years for a lot of things but I'm glad things are getting through!

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YES

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MUSHROOM HATS

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:14 PM

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He doesn't have Metzen's sheer charisma and energy but Ion has his own great style of presenting

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:14 PM

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TOADSTOAL

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GNOME

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:14 PM

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(also i'm briefly pausing to type, not going slow :P)

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:14 PM

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Candles!

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:14 PM

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Ohhhhhh

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YES PLEASE

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:15 PM

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Mount

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:15 PM

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i havent watched did anything cool happen

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:15 PM

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They're talking about the Delves right now

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:15 PM

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Ion lionPog1

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:15 PM

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nah nope nothing no

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absolutely nothing

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nope

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:15 PM

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And now on to Warbands

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:15 PM

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YES A LOT OF GOOD STUFF

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:15 PM

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FeelsIonMan

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:15 PM

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"Turns out, y'all play a lot of alts"

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:16 PM

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Looks at 15 max level alts Nah, I think I'm pretty light on that...

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:16 PM

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hmm

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Paladin, demon hunter, warrior

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I have 3

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:17 PM

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To be fair you're an actual sane person. rdwut

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:18 PM

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I've got tons that I never got to max level. I think I've got three level 70s, maybe 6 above 60

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and a lot of lowbies

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:18 PM

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Sweet another bank on top of my guild bank. More space!

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:18 PM

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Im one of the guys cheering

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:19 PM

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Wait... like as in you're there?

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or in spirit?

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:19 PM

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"Warbound until Equipped" is a neat QoL change

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:19 PM

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im at home but I was like them

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:20 PM

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I'm right there with ya then

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:20 PM

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Luxthos!

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(in the hat)

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:20 PM

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😮

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:21 PM

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So the Renown/Rep thing is what I expected. Start with the new ones, will then open up Dragonflight renowns and work their way backwards to get old Reps working

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:21 PM

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I assume I dont have to do world quests / dailies on 10 characters to get high renown fast krippW

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:21 PM

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Oooh, flight paths. So I take it that will make the old Heriloom maps less relevant.

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:22 PM

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Yes!

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:22 PM

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why are you nodding when we dont know yet

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:22 PM

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Because I really don't think they'll let people do that

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I'm 99% sure

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:22 PM

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hehe yeah..

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surely...

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:22 PM

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tulip badger why are you nodding when we dont know yet

Er, we do know. The Renowns in the new expansion will be shared across your Warband. So you don't have to grind them out on 10 different characters.

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:23 PM

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No, what he means is that...

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Farming on 10 in first one

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week*

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To get max

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on all

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:23 PM

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Yeah, doing the first zone for giga rep on 10 chars to get high level as fast as possible instead of weekly grind

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:23 PM

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I hope not

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:23 PM

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I doubt they'll allow that

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:23 PM

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Reminder that to get the new rep optimally in the next patch you have to grind it on your alt first to get the renown bonus for your main before starting the content

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:23 PM

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I really don't want to do that

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ooo

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:24 PM

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Pretty sure they saw that happen in DF so they'll work around that knowledge

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:24 PM

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Oh god... A lot of character's transmog is awful

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:24 PM

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hero talents!

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:24 PM

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I have to stare at all them all the time...

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I'm sure hearing the word "covenant" gives people ptsd

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:25 PM

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Hero Talents are the least exciting bit for me, but still neat.

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:25 PM

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yeah it's alright

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we'll see

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Oh please, give enhance shaman a hero talent tree for tanking...

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:27 PM

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wrong game you're looking for classic

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I dont think hero talents will be THAT impactful

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:28 PM

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" Y'all are complicated"

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:28 PM

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dracthyr_cry_animated

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accurate

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:29 PM

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elfin steeple Oh please, give enhance shaman a hero talent tree for tanking...

It won't be. These are basically sub-specs, letting you get more focus on something your spec already does well.

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:29 PM

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yeah... I'm okay with that...

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...Sort of...

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:29 PM

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show me holy holy paladin

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:29 PM

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rdwhimper

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:29 PM

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I want to be even holier

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holier than thou

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:30 PM

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As long as Dracthyr finally have gear that can been seen I'll be happy

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:30 PM

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nice joke

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:31 PM

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...Heh, thanks...

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:31 PM

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Dracthyr arent the new hot thing anymore

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:31 PM

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dracthyr_cry

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:31 PM

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we're heroes now

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:31 PM

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everyone is a hero class woo

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Remember when DK was the only one?

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:31 PM

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elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:31 PM

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DH with 2

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wheeze

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:31 PM

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Lightsmith 😮

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:32 PM

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thats holy holy paladin

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:32 PM

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Frostfire

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pippwiggle

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:32 PM

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oooo

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:32 PM

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DK... rider of the apocalypse

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daaang

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:32 PM

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that's sick

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:32 PM

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What the hell is mountain thane

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it stands out

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:32 PM

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That was mentioned yesterday

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:33 PM

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Probably Tankier Tanking

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:33 PM

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elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:33 PM

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super tank

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:33 PM

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Earthen

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:33 PM

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Tanks can go deeper into dps

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which is ~~call~~

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cool*

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:33 PM

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Unlocked just by playing the through the game

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:34 PM

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imagine playing the game to unlock stuff.

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I can't anymore

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:34 PM

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is thane a word?

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it sounds like a name

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:34 PM

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It is, it's a type of ruler

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:34 PM

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yeah

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:34 PM

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Ooh, I like the heritage armor concept

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:34 PM

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nordic word i think, vikings had thanes

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squinteyes aren't you nordic artiks

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:35 PM

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Mountriding

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HA

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:35 PM

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yeah but we dont use english words here

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:35 PM

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Dynamic Flight will become the default in the future

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"I only see Ashes on the right"

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starlightwheeze

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:35 PM

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Yeah, I only see one mount

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rdsnrk

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:35 PM

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I was so excited to get the fire bird for this feature

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then they put it on Invincible anyway twiveryinterested

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:36 PM

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I want it on Mimiron's head

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Oh please, remove the stupid .2 flying achievement thing

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:37 PM

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Nice, wanting to toggle between DF and TBC flying

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:37 PM

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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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GOODBYE PATHFINDER

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GOODBYE

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:37 PM

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Pathfinding unlocked at hitting max level, no rep grind, nice

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:37 PM

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10.2 last pathfinder

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wooo

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:37 PM

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Shifting Dragonriding traits to an Evergreen system

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:38 PM

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So good

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OHHHHHH

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that's siick

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too bad I don't have any alts to level anymore...

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:38 PM

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Dragonflight will be the new leveling experience after Exile's Reach, replacing BFA, means you get Dragonrigiding right away

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:38 PM

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thats nice that you get it on max lvl

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:38 PM

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PVP! ...Which I haven't touched in forever...

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:38 PM

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I like the no flying during lvling adventure

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:39 PM

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...but you have dragonriding...

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Which is...

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flying...

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In style!

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:39 PM

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yeah in DF not in War Within

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:39 PM

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He meant the pathfinder/toggle thing being after max level

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:39 PM

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yeah

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dragonriding is at the start

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:39 PM

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dynamic flying available right from the start in war within

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:39 PM

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of the next expansion

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:39 PM

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it is?

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:40 PM

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Yes

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:40 PM

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yes that's what he said

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:40 PM

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Yes, he just announced it

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:40 PM

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too bad

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:40 PM

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Dragonriding at the start. Then at max level later you'll unlock regular flying

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:40 PM

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Dragonflight will be the new default leveling experience, meaning you get Dragonriding right off the bat.

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:40 PM

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They look like big zones so idk

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Dragonriding felt GREAT

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at the start

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in DF

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:40 PM

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Interface Updates

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:41 PM

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Looks nice

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:41 PM

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I prefer taking in the world from the ground on a first go

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:41 PM

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Take advantage of more than 1024x768 monitor res

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:41 PM

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tulip badger I prefer taking in the world from the ground on a first go

I'm over that. I used to be that way but then I got old and impatient.

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:41 PM

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tulip badger I prefer taking in the world from the ground on a first go

You can still do that if you want. It's just that you aren't forced to stay on the ground until an arbitrary level now.

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:41 PM

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I want speed

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zoom!

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:43 PM

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Cross-realm guilds & Mythic raiding

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:44 PM

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Should be easier to get into a mythic guild now without having to transfer which is nice

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If that's what people want

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:44 PM

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Im cooking so Im missing a lot but did he say anything about how guilds names that are on lots of servers will work

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:44 PM

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I think they'll be the same name but for that realm

tulip badger Nov 4, 2023, 7:45 PM

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Like Im in phoenix on Silvermoon but theres like 100 phoenix guilds

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:45 PM

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tulip badger Im cooking so Im missing a lot but did he say anything about how guilds names th...

I assume they'll get the "home" realm name appended

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So Phoenix-Silvermoon

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:45 PM

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Yeah there's no change, it'll probably be like player names

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[GUILD-SERVER NAME]

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:45 PM

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grizzled parcel So `Phoenix-Silvermoon`

flutterthis

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:45 PM

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still no announcement on dracthyr getting other classes

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:46 PM

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Dynamic flying in old world in 10.2.5, I heard that 😮

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:46 PM

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I missed that?

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:46 PM

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I'm still holding out hope for the dragon bois

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:46 PM

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grizzled parcel I missed that?

It was really quick but I def heard 10.2.5

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:46 PM

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elfin steeple I'm still holding out hope for the dragon bois

I'm kinda hoping that this means they'll get opened up with the pre-patch, rather than being locked to the expansion.

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:46 PM

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very cool

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:47 PM

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https://www.wowhead.com/news/dragonride-in-all-zones-in-patch-10-2-5-335911 see

Wowhead

Dragonride in All Zones in Patch 10.2.5

In the WoW Deep Dive panel, Ion Hazzikostas announced that you can Dragonride in all old zones in Patch 10.2.5!

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:47 PM

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Neat

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:47 PM

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https://www.wowhead.com/news/wow-deep-dive-panel-liveblog-at-blizzcon-2023-335906 anyway wowhead was also doing liveblog so there's the summary of stuff for now

Wowhead

WoW Deep Dive Panel Liveblog at BlizzCon 2023

Moving into day two of BlizzCon 2023, the WoW: Deep Dive panel is just getting started, so we're all of the most interesting highlights!

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:47 PM

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I really hope they apply Dynamic Flight to that skeletal dragon mount we got for leveling a DK in classic, that model was epic

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:48 PM

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Honestly I think anything with a bone structure will get it

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Pretty sure that dragon shares the nethedrake/highland drake bone structure

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So it'll be in

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:48 PM

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yeah!

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:48 PM

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If anything, I think the mechanical mounts will cause the issues

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:48 PM

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I want heavenly mounts from MOP to be in

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:48 PM

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They will be

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Slitherdrakes, remember?

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:49 PM

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peepoBlushSHAKE

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:49 PM

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atomic sonnet If anything, I think the _mechanical_ mounts will cause the issues

Yeah, my poor Engineering mounts

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:49 PM

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No mimiron head! wheeze

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:49 PM

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...For now...

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:49 PM

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I bet they'll do something to figure it out, yeah

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But yeah. Proto drake skeletal structure applies for a lot already. Highland drake is a large majority of dragon mounts too, so that'll be easy

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This one's probably going to be some of the more birdlike ones like... Anzu or something? I know he's not flying but you know the style i mean

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:51 PM

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If invincible is in then a lot of flying horses will be

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Headless horseman

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:51 PM

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Yus

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Though those don't have wings rdwut

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:51 PM

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But it's a horse. rdsnrk

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Hearthstone mount

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 7:51 PM

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Not sure if this matches a skeletal structure of much else. But we already have gryphons from the preorder thing

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So yeah the main glaring one missing is going to be mechanical ones

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:52 PM

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Hmm...

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:52 PM

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Can you imagine Invincible doing a barrel roll?

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:52 PM

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They have a mechanical one you can make in the new expansion

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Which might be Dragonriding...

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 7:52 PM

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grizzled parcel Can you imagine Invincible doing a barrel roll?

It does in the trailer for the expansion!

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I remember!

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Nvm, Ashes does a barrel roll, not invincible in that trailer.

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 7:58 PM

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rdsnrk

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I think I need to focus on getting the DF renowns maxed.

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Which reminds me, DMF tomorrow.

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:01 PM

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Yep! If the Dreamsurge thing has a 50% buff up make sure to snag that too. It's getting nerfed next Tuesday.

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:02 PM

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Where does that appear?

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:02 PM

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It appears in different zones weekly. Uhh, don't remember which zone it is this week. Maybe Shores?

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It shows up as a green/blue icon thing

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very noticable

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Dreamsurges are every hour on the hour and you vote for what you want in it. Sometimes the 50% rep thing isn't there to vote for.

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But it's always voted for.

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if it is

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:04 PM

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Yeah, i saw the "vote for this thing" but didn't get the buff on my Hunter.

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:04 PM

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thinklight

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You don't get it right away when you vote. It should show up on your character in that zone when the dreamsurge starts though

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:06 PM

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Ah. I guess I needed to just sit there and wait on it then.

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I'll keep that in mind, I want to get a few more alts to 70.

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:07 PM

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Yep! Definitely take advantage of it. It's really nice for alts.

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:08 PM

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I'm sorely tempted to race-change my DK too. I'm pretty sure I used a level boost on him at some point, so he wouldn't qualify for future heritage armor unlocks anyway.

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:10 PM

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Nah, you'd definitely need to start fresh again if you want the armor.

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So, off topic but I started doing a HC run on Classic with my friends. We randomized our faction/class/race. We all got completely different races in different zones to start. I got nightelf, one got human, and another dwarf. I forgot that in Classic there's no boat to Stormwind so when I got to Wetlands I thought I'd have to do a Wetlands run to get to Elwynn. Well... There was one random level 40 mage there. I offered him retail gold for a port since I didn't have classic gold and he was so confused and flustered but accepted and I managed to make it there. rdwut The first day was just the journey to get to the human starting zone mainly. It was quite something. My one friend has never played before and had a billion questions while my other has played but not in a long time. It was a great confusing mess, but we made it to Goldshire so far.

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And the best part is I've never leveled an alliance character past like 15 in Classic. So I was confused too to top it all off. Lmao.

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:13 PM

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That sounds awesome!

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And yeah, the Wetlands run is a nightmare. I can't imagine doing it on Hardcore

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:13 PM

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We were giggling and joking the whole time. It was great.

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:13 PM

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Good luck with Hogger

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ppenk

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:13 PM

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oh lord

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We saw like 10 comments in general for Hogger in 30 minutes

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constant

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Ton of people on that day too

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Wolves corpses everywhere

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:14 PM

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The man was a menace in Classic, he's going to wipe the floor with a bunch of Hardcore players.

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:14 PM

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We're a three man group so maybe we'll be okay. We got a druid, paladin and mage

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pretty good random setup I'd say!

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I've never done druid in classic either xD

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:15 PM

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Just dont' underestimate him, he hits like a truck and there are other mobs in the area near him.

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:15 PM

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Bear form and lay on hands to the rescue!

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We'll grab 2 more people for sure though

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:19 PM

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elfin steeple We'll grab 2 more people for sure though

~~Ah yes, the bait~~

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:20 PM

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rdsnrk

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...I don't think any of us are going to tank in dungeons that's for sure.

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sunsetsmirk

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Honestly, I'll be amazed if we get through deadmines. Anything after is just extra at that point.

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Do people honestly believe that each "expansion" in the saga is only going to be one patch!? That'd be the single worst decision they've ever made.

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Ain't no way no how.

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I see so many comments "oh, so only one year per expansion?" Like ????

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People cray cray

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I could see one every year and a half with a 11.0-11.2.5 and that being the same for each expansion...

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At the earliest possible

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But even a year and a half feels kind of short

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A year is just nuts

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I do see the death of .3 patches though

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Fates being the end of each expansion

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3 major raids per expansion

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I will say that Fall for the next expansion right now without a 10.3 is going to be something. I do hope they conjure up something good for 10.2.5 and possibly 10.2.7. Bringing in fate raids and a best-of M+ would be nice at the very least.

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Plenty of time for people to attempt and complete the last mythic raid I suppose

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:32 PM

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Yeah, some people are just assuming the worst so they can bitch about it and get Likes / Upvotes. No way we're going to one patch per expansion

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:32 PM

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So stupid

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:32 PM

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Ion just confirmed that Evokers will be starting at lvl 10 but the leather armor on the dracthyr is just part of their warbands mock up and not indicative of any new class/race combos.

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:32 PM

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smoldersquint

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A... mock up...

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Which indicates a maybe possibility...

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Seems strange to me

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probably not at launch

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:33 PM

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Someone also noticed it's wearing Druid transmog, but has daggers equipped.

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:33 PM

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going to be 11.2.5

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I pointed out the druid gear when they showed it, missed the daggers

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Evoker Dracthyr started out so strong (like most hero classes) but it's already on the sidelines, dusty and forgotten...

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Augmentation of course is good, but... Otherwise their gear hasn't looked great this expansion and you can't even see it half the time...

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:36 PM

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I'm still salty I can't even wear any Engineering goggles on my dracthyr.

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:37 PM

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Nope, but you can enjoy them while they're in their human form... Isn't that wonderful?! CLAP! PLEASE CLAP!

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immediately turns into Dracthyr form in combat so you can no longer see the goggles

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What's silly to me is that Preservation, their healing spec, you're in that form half the time in combat still even though most of their abilities involves their hands.

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:38 PM

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My Worgen never revert to human form, I don't know why I'd want my dracthyr in "visage" form.

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:38 PM

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And worgen can see their full armor!

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Dang it blizz...

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:39 PM

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Yep

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:39 PM

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Nope, they want you to enjoy the custom armor you make in the character creation.

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:39 PM

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I think they rushed the dracthyr model, and weren't able to adapt all the various armors to the model in time for launch.

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:39 PM

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so ENJOY IT

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xd

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shoves character creation screen in face

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MAKE 'EM SPARKLY

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THAT'S ALL YOU GET

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yeah that's what I think

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:<

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:40 PM

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Maybe in 5 or 6 expansions, they'll get around to reworking the model. rdwut

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:42 PM

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You know it's the end of a patch when you don't even feel like touching the game. Like, I could practice on my Mistweaver monk, but they're getting a lot of changes next patch so uh... Not sure how much practice is going to help now...

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Also!

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Transmogs.

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Next expansion making it to where you can unlock all armor types you come across

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So why farm them now?

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rdwut

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:43 PM

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Yeah, that's why I'm going to focus on leveling some alts. I probably won't even touch 10.1 content until after I've done 10.2

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:43 PM

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Oh lord

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10.1 content sure is... something

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I flew over it so quick I have whiplash

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It's uh, not great.

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Not for casual fun or for hardcore players

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:44 PM

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yoooooOOOOOOOOOO
https://vxtwitter.com/KarazaaCodes/status/1720895915412885818

vxTwitter

Twitter

EK Racer Karazaa 💙 (@KarazaaCodes)

One thing not mentioned in the deep dive. Dracthyr Soar will become full dragonriding for Dracthyr that have completed Forbidden Reach(intro) questing and have unlocked dragonriding on their accounts.

💖 16

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:44 PM

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It's a lose lose

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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:45 PM

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Suddenly, I love dracthyr again

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ididntlisten

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:45 PM

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Yep! I take back what I said!

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All of it.

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not really

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But some of it!

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:45 PM

#

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So, still limited compared to Dragonriding, but an option

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:46 PM

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Still better than it is now

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I'll take it

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Now make an engineering jetpack that does the same please

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So I can fly on my vulpera

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:46 PM

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OMG yes

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:48 PM

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Bounty hunter vulpera rdlol

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Dual pistols

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I wish you could dual guns...

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:48 PM

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People have been begging for a dual pistols Hunter spec for years.

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Also, I had a stupid thought last night: Survival Hutner should be what Outlaw Rogue is right now, a melee class that just whips out pistols to shoot things in the face.

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:49 PM

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But with grenades as well!

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I'm fine with this

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:49 PM

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Mhm.

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:49 PM

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Annnnnnnnd

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Flamethrower.

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Of course.

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:49 PM

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rdsnrk

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:49 PM

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Good aoe damage!

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:50 PM

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Just make Engineer a class already. rdwut

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:50 PM

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The tinker basically

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one day

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maybe

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support class probably

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:50 PM

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Oh god, someone brought up a good point: Druid Flight Form Dynamic Flight.

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Birdie go nyoom

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:51 PM

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That's going to be a thing in 10.2 with the mythic druid mount I'm pretty sure

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So not long after that they might

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:51 PM

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Yeah, I expect that'll be included in the 10.2.5 thing.

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:51 PM

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...But that's mythic raiding...

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ugh

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:51 PM

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Guess I gotta level my druid

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:51 PM

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yep! Get to it!

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:51 PM

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~~Or a new one~~

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:51 PM

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New one with heritage armor

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:51 PM

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Gotta get that Kul Tiran heritage armor at some point

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:52 PM

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flutternod

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:52 PM

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My current druid is a worgen, but I already unlocked that armor and my Rogue is rocking it.

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:52 PM

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Kul Tiran heritage armor is sick

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:52 PM

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This will be so cool! Next up should be demon hunters with their wings and druids in flight form. After that Paladins with light wings/Naaru wings, and warriors being carried by a valkyr. Then shaman floating on air currents and Priest Levitating quickly.

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starlightwheeze

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 8:53 PM

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DH yes. The rest, naaah :p

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:53 PM

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Mage with that thing Jaina flew in on in that one BFA raid

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:53 PM

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~~I didn't BfA raid so I don't know.~~

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oopslittlepip

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:53 PM

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It's the one with the GMOD mount we're eventually going to do at some point

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 8:53 PM

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The water ele

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:53 PM

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and the water elemental mount

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:53 PM

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Garry's Mod?

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ididntlisten

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:54 PM

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ye

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YES

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Lmao

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:54 PM

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The water elemental mount I do want to get

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:54 PM

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I always think of that when I see the mount

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I'll have to make a small group for us to do it on Mythic. It's not hard but the more the easier.

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It fills very quickly.

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Jaina freezes people like crazy in mythic

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so we need bodies to get bodies out

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 8:59 PM

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Apparently someone was able to solo the raid as Arcane Mage due to a scaling bug. rdsnrk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZywCiHu9Ho

YouTube

Araitik

Mage solo - Battle of Dazar'alor 9/9 Mythic ! (Yes, Mythic Jaina too)

To my knowledge, Mage is the first class to fully clear Mythic Dazar'alor !

Surprisingly, Opulence was by far the hardest challenge, not because of difficulty but simply because the boss is annoyingly designed.

00:00 - Intro (needed for chapters apparently, thx YouTube)
00:09 - Champions of the Light: No difficulty
00:27 - Grong: No difficulty...

▶ Play video

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 8:59 PM

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woah

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now that's impressive

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 8:59 PM

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Nerf mages

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 9:00 PM

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Doing jaina on mythic solo is nuts still

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Proved who the better mage is

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 9:00 PM

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Apparently this is the same guy who had the first solo of Mythic Icecrown

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 9:01 PM

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Err, ICC doesn't have mythic. ponk Do you mean heroic?

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Was he a Blood DK in cata?

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 9:01 PM

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sorry, I meant Heroic, yes

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 9:02 PM

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impressive

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I didn't bother trying until Warlords

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I think a lot of classes will be able to solo Jaina after decking out next patch

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Will still be hard though for many

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you 100% want regen health of some kind when she stuns you though

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Alright, heading out for a bit. Don't know if more news is coming today but this weekend has sure been something! I think the chat here has been more lively in the last couple days than the last month. rdsnrk I'll probably be a chatter box during the start of 10.2 though.

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 9:06 PM

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Take care!

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 9:07 PM

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flutterwave

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 9:11 PM

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Yeah I don't think anything else will come in. THey did say Q&A over the next few weeks though

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 9:15 PM

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I think we've hit the main points, and Q&A will mostly be clarifying things.

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 9:16 PM

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I'm sure a few people will ask things that were not covered

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 9:45 PM

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Do better, wowhead...

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We can't get into specifics, but yes it will be faster. We want to ensure that players aren't completing this saga in 2030. Teams have been restructured to be able to create this whole saga.```

from an interview

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And wowhead titles it "CONCLUDES BY 2030"

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...That's expressly not what they said.

grizzled parcel Nov 4, 2023, 9:46 PM

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Yeah, they've been getting more clickbait lately

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 9:58 PM

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Year and a half per is my guess still

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I don't get why they need to click bait... They're one of the biggest WoW fan sites...

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New patch every 6 months

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6 months from 11.2 to 12.0

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Would feel okay

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They missed the opportunity to sell all three expansions in a bundle

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Unless in collector's ed

queen wasp Nov 4, 2023, 10:38 PM

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Wowhead becomes awful sometimes, then people mass complain and they pull back for a bit.

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 11:10 PM

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How could I miss this...

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sweetiestareintensifies

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 11:17 PM

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surv, bm... marksmanship, then?

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 11:17 PM

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MM and Surv will be able to pick it is my guess

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Never see a pet with a dark ranger

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I'd like to see some talents that give abilities like the Sylvanas fight in the 9.1 raid

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 11:19 PM

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DK and Monk win for specs with best names

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 11:19 PM

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Yus

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 11:19 PM

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RIDERS OF THE APOCALYPSE and CONDUIT OF THE CELESTIALS

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 11:19 PM

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I agree

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YES

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CONDUIT

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Very cool

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Those two were my top two

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in terms of names

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Conduit would be... WW and MW?

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And riders would be blood and... frost?

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Although actually

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 11:20 PM

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dracthyr_nod

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 11:20 PM

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shoot what's the green one again for DK uhhh

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I'm drawing a blank

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xD

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unholy

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 11:20 PM

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Unholy?

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 11:20 PM

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Apoc says unholy to me

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 11:21 PM

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Less 'cool' factor but still in the "oh this is neat" fantasy fullfiling thing, being a Shado-Pan sounds awesome

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 11:21 PM

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blood and unholy

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idk it's a hard guess

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Yes

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 11:21 PM

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And Scalecommander

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 11:21 PM

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Obviously Augment and

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hmm

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probably dev

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 11:21 PM

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Augment and Dev, yeah. Chronowarden is Aug and heal

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 11:22 PM

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oh yeah

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 11:22 PM

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Although, Hmm

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 11:22 PM

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Chrono says heal to me in some aspect

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 11:22 PM

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Aug and prevoker for scalecommander

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 11:22 PM

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I mean warden*

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chrono aug

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 11:22 PM

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Nono

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You can't tell me that ruby adept will have heal

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 11:22 PM

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Oh dear

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 11:23 PM

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That sounds more like aug dev to me

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Although, ruby lifepools...

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WHO KNOWS sweetiestareintensifies

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 11:23 PM

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dev pres

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I think

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wait did I say dev 3 times

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uhh

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bleh

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 11:23 PM

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We're confused rdwut

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 11:23 PM

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triangles

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hard

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maths

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brain no work

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 11:24 PM

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I picture you as that guy from that cartoon... "....~~Dinkelberg~~. Triangles. trixiegrump "

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 11:24 PM

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Fairy Odd Parents?

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 11:24 PM

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yar, never watched any but i see the memes

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 11:25 PM

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lol I've seen but I only ever see one meme for that show

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and that's the trophy one

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Warlock has two hero talents that mean hell

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Hellcaller and Diabolist

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Now who has the most boring names...

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Ironically the druid one I think

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even though it has 4

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 11:26 PM

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Druid and DH sad

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 11:26 PM

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War is simple but cool

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DH, really?

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Hmm

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I kind of like them

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they're interesting at least

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Fel-scarred kind of okay

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and aldrachi reaver is awesome

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Hunter only has Dark Ranger tbh

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Pack leader is eh

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 11:28 PM

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Shaman is a bit boring too

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 11:28 PM

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Hmm. I agree but when I think of the names I think back to WC3 and some of the mobs

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And it makes it slightly cooler

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The Broken

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had two of those names

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Farseer and Totemic

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But yeah otherwise eh

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Herald of the Sun is awesome

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Imagine you could unlock these names as titles

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Celestia, Herald of the Sun

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 11:30 PM

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I still like LIGHTSMITH

elfin steeple Nov 4, 2023, 11:30 PM

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All the paladin ones go hard

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Templar has always been cool

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Ya know... The more I stare at the names the more I see them becoming titles...

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Ah, nvm... The mage ones break that idea

atomic sonnet Nov 4, 2023, 11:33 PM

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San'layn DK is just badass though rdwut

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It's obviously going to be blood and frost as Northrend is where we saw them

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 12:25 AM

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We have nothing to announce at this time.```

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 12:28 AM

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Watch it

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 12:28 AM

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https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzcon-2023-developer-interview-with-maria-hamilton-and-kristy-moret-335919

Wowhead

BlizzCon 2023 Developer Interview With Maria Hamilton & Kristy Moret

In a group interview with Associate Design Director Maria Hamilton and Lead World Artist Kristy Moret at BlizzCon 2023, the developers discussed the future of WoW in The War Within expansion including narrative focus, zone design, Warbands, Dynamic Flight, and AI at Blizzard.

south steppe Nov 5, 2023, 12:33 AM

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grizzled parcel Watch it

???

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 12:33 AM

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south steppe ???

This is a SFW server, your language was inappropriate.

south steppe Nov 5, 2023, 12:33 AM

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Lol

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 12:33 AM

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I'd take it seriously, if I were you.

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 12:36 AM

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Is there concern that player excitement and surprise will be tempered with the announcement of the next 3 expansions?
There's still so much more to dive into and to announce with each expansion that should help keep players engaged including a strong cohesive narrative. Features in Midnight are expected to blow players' socks off.```

south steppe Nov 5, 2023, 12:36 AM

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atomic sonnet ``` Is there concern that player excitement and surprise will be tempered with t...

potentially unpopular opinion but I don't even think "surprise" is that important

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at least compared to the expansion actually being fun when it gets there

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I really dont think the element of surprsie is worth worrying about here at least.

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 12:40 AM

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It's something i've seen mentioned online a bit but yeah, I like knowing what we're getting

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 12:41 AM

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Yeah, I'm excited knowing that there's a plan to get through the Void/Light/Titan storyline. They're not just going to drag it out forever, they've actually got a story plotted.

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 12:42 AM

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How has AI been integrated into the Blizzard pipeline?
AI is exciting and new, but we want to use it in an ethical way that doesn't replace the creative work that we do. We've used machine learning to refit helmets to all character races, a huge task that can be tedious for an individual character artist to work on. We don't want to develop zones with AI, but using it to refine training materials to streamline onboarding can be exceptional. We want to avoid AI art generation; you can't replace passion.```

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 12:42 AM

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... Blizzard being ethical?
The world is ending!

south steppe Nov 5, 2023, 12:42 AM

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wouldn't surprise me if they eventually used AI to upscale old art resolution

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like the skyboxes of old zones

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or other textures

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I wouldnt personally mind that either

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 12:44 AM

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Goal is to include currency and other shared progression if it makes sense as an account achievement versus an individual character's achievement.```

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 12:46 AM

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I expect currencies for things like transmogs / unlocks will become account wide, but ones used for gearing will stay per-character.

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Would be neat if more stuff could be Warband Bound tho.

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 12:49 AM

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dracthyr_nod

south steppe Nov 5, 2023, 12:49 AM

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I wonder if catch-up currency would be account wide.

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 1:04 AM

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Regarding the new swords for the trader's tender end goal this month:
"Hello there,
Just wanted to confirm this issue has been escalated and is under investigation!
Thanks for letting us know!"

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 10:32 AM

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https://www.wowhead.com/news/wowheads-exclusive-blizzcon-2023-interview-with-anne-stickney-and-tina-wang-335929

Wowhead

Wowhead's Exclusive Blizzcon 2023 Interview with Anne Stickney & Ti...

This year at BlizzCon 2023, Wowhead was lucky to sit down for an exclusive interview with Senior Narrative Director Anne Stickley and Associate Game Director Tina Wang, discussing The War Within, open world endgame Delve content, and Heroic Talent philosophies!

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 11:33 AM

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https://youtu.be/_jWQYRHF6D8?si=6CAxeaXWzQkztrPI

YouTube

LazyBeast Gaming

Enhanced Character BOOST.. What Do You Get?! World of Warcraft: The...

You can now pre-order the next expansion for World of Warcraft, The War Within, and with any level of pre order, you get yourself an 'Enhanced Level 70 character boost' .. but what exactly does that mean?! Here is everything you will get with the boost, enjoy!

Cheers for watching, have a great day! Make sure to SUBSCRIBE for more WoW Guides an...

▶ Play video

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Jesus, it gives you 20 Renown in the main 4 Dragonflight reps

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12 in Loam Niffen

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ilvl 424 gear

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The gear does not qualify for the Catalyst, but still a nice bundle.

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So yeah, I may spend this on a lower-level Worgen alt, since I already have their heritage armor unlocked & it'll unlock those nice Renown bonuses for everyone else.

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 12:39 PM

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atomic sonnet https://www.wowhead.com/news/wowheads-exclusive-blizzcon-2023-interview-with-ann...

That typical end of an expansion, everyone expects that last tier to take eight months to a year.
Anne Stickney: Yeah, speaking of which, 10.2 is not the last patch of Dragonflight. We have so much more story to tell and you guys don't even know. Oh my god, I can't wait for you to see it.

I know in another interview though someone said no 10.3, so is it just going to be story and the smaller patches basically?
Tina Wang: The final raid is 10.2.
Anne Stickney: Yeah, Amirdrassil.

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So, we will get another content patch after 10.2, there just won't be another raid associated with it.

tulip badger Nov 5, 2023, 12:45 PM

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I assume some spin on the fated raids from Shadowlands for the last 3-4 months

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 12:46 PM

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We've seen 10.X.5 and 10.X.7 patches so I assume we'll probably get the same again. Forbidden reach (maybe not a new island but you get what i mean) type of thing that advances story some

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It begins wheeze

tulip badger Nov 5, 2023, 12:50 PM

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what did they do

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 12:54 PM

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Oh just the usual ragebait videos

tulip badger Nov 5, 2023, 1:01 PM

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I think the only announced changes is faster lvling than original cataclysm and that they are continuing the affixes in dungeons system

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 1:05 PM

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Huh, I didn't know the Boost could be applied to a brand new character.

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Oh well, I don't want to screw up any Heritage armors I haven't unlocked, so I'm just throwing it on my Worgen.

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Oh. It gave me the Slitherdrake mount. Neat.

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 1:11 PM

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ooh

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 1:11 PM

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tulip badger I think the only announced changes is faster lvling than original cataclysm and ...

I guess? Not interested in classic at all so i haven't watched. Just amused by it

tulip badger Nov 5, 2023, 1:44 PM

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people in my guild discord are saying they confirmed a fated season for DF

queen wasp Nov 5, 2023, 1:48 PM

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yaebounce_chickenjagoo Oh no faster leveling.

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Cata wasn't as bad as people think and classic will fix the issues of waiting a long time for content drops.

tulip badger Nov 5, 2023, 1:52 PM

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I like lvling so I hope its not MUCH faster

queen wasp Nov 5, 2023, 1:52 PM

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BronyaHacking I wonder how much Mists and Legion will affect retail, those were both popular sets.

worn swan Nov 5, 2023, 1:57 PM

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https://fxtwitter.com/eurogamer/status/1721164611364233242? @grizzled parcel

FixTweet / FixupX

Twitter

Eurogamer (@eurogamer)

Blizzard talks about bringing World of Warcraft to consoles "all the time"

https://www.eurogamer.net/blizzard-talks-about-bringing-world-of-warcraft-to-consoles-all-the-time

queen wasp Nov 5, 2023, 1:58 PM

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DurandalPeek WoW without addons.

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 1:58 PM

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Yeah, they've been thinking about that for decades. I don't think they could get the interface to work tho.

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 2:00 PM

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Well, I'm sure Microsoft will try to prod them a few times

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 2:02 PM

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Minor but neat change for next xpac

Blizzcon-The-War-Within-UI-Update-Spellbook-1024x576.png

queen wasp Nov 5, 2023, 2:04 PM

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BronyaHacking Microsoft is more about game pass than xbox, that's where they'll try to get the WoW players.

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 2:09 PM

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... That and an 80 dollar boost for CATA classic of all things... rdsnrk

queen wasp Nov 5, 2023, 2:10 PM

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Microsoft might be content with getting FF14 on Xbox as well.

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 2:11 PM

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FF14's community is so chill with console players. Man, if WoW players find out you're playing on a controller... Oof.

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 2:12 PM

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Yeah, world of difference there.

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 2:12 PM

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Going to see 1000 forum posts about people complaining about console players in m+

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Going to be stuff like: "I lost my key to an Xbox player. Microsoft owes me a new one or I'm going to do a complete 360 on my subscription..." "... Doesn't that just mean you're going to resub...?"

worn swan Nov 5, 2023, 2:23 PM

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grizzled parcel Yeah, world of difference there.

Do they not like controller players?

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 2:25 PM

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Nope

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Oh neat. If you do the preorder & get the new Gryphon, you get a quest to go to Lord Andestraz at Skytop Observatory, and he gives you the quests to upgrade the Stormrider's Ensemble right away.

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Gotta fly "Storm Race" courses to complete it.

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 2:28 PM

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Interesting. It gives you the quests for races that don't exist yet?

worn swan Nov 5, 2023, 2:28 PM

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grizzled parcel Oh neat. If you do the preorder & get the new Gryphon, you get a quest to go to ...

Do controller players get more assists?

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 2:29 PM

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FF14 is cool with controller players. WoW is not.

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 2:29 PM

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worn swan Do controller players get more assists?

There's not full controller support in WoW that I'm aware of. It's just that the culture of WoW has been PC players for so long, they've got a bit of that "PC Master Race" bullshit going on.

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 2:30 PM

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Yes, mostly that.

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And the community is toxic enough towards new players as it stands...

worn swan Nov 5, 2023, 2:32 PM

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grizzled parcel There's not full controller support in WoW that I'm aware of. It's just that the...

Ah right.

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 2:32 PM

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These are the same players who want new blood in the game but complain when they're in their group

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There's mods to get controller to work for WoW. Likely easier said than done to install them and use them. There's also the fact that they're unofficial so you're going to get the "if it's broken it may never be fixed and ignored forever" treatment.

south steppe Nov 5, 2023, 3:26 PM

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atomic sonnet It begins <:wheeze:983140299683528704>

I mean hots is probably dead but yeah those wow videos are always ragebait

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 3:26 PM

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https://gear.blizzard.com/products/wowcmt0097-world-of-warcraft-what-sword-t-shirt tempting wheeze

Blizzard Gear Store

World of Warcraft What Sword T-Shirt

The World of Warcraft What Sword T-Shirt is made of 100% soft-hand cotton. This T-shirt features a digitally printed design for high detail. This product is printed to order and requires extended production time before it ships. 100% Cotton Regular Fit Digitally Printed Officially Licensed

south steppe Nov 5, 2023, 3:26 PM

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I left r/WoW on reddit for a reason, I swear everyone on that subreddit hates world of warcraft.

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 3:27 PM

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They honestly do. Reddit and asmon's chat is just haters of the game and they constantly complain

south steppe Nov 5, 2023, 3:27 PM

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Asmon enables it by doing the same thing so I'm not surprised there

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"Reasons why FFXIV is better than WoW part 28928928 (I am going to keep playing WoW so I can complain about every patch for 5 years straight)"

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 3:28 PM

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https://eu.gear.blizzard.com/products/overpl0008-overwatch-2-spirit-fox-plush !

Blizzard Gear Store EU

Overwatch 2 Kitsune Fox Spirit Plush

Introducing the Overwatch 2 Kitsune Fox Plush – a cuddly companion for every Overwatch enthusiast! This adorable fox plush is the perfect addition to your collection, featuring high-quality craftsmanship and attention to detail. Whether you're a fan of Overwatch or just love cute foxes, this plushie is a must-have. Bri

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...that costs less that that damn t-shirt.

south steppe Nov 5, 2023, 3:28 PM

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the Blizzcon hype has gotten me to re-up my sub (it was only down for a month or two tbf)

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 3:29 PM

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https://eu.gear.blizzard.com/products/wowcmf0007-world-of-warcraft-duck-slippers wheeze

Blizzard Gear Store EU

World of Warcraft Duck Slippers

Step into the whimsical world of Azeroth with the World of Warcraft Duck Slippers. Inspired by the iconic ducklings of WoW, they feature soft, plush materials for maximum comfort. The non-slip soles ensure stability as you journey through your home realm. Whether you're gaming, relaxing, or simply embracing your love f

south steppe Nov 5, 2023, 3:29 PM

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the wrathion statue is quite cool

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its also 350 dollars

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 3:30 PM

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The statues are always pretty great, but yeah. You pay for the greatness

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Ordered that plush, because fox partyfox

south steppe Nov 5, 2023, 3:32 PM

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I don't own any statues/figures of that nature, I should probably pick up just one some day.

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 3:34 PM

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I have a few rdsnrk

queen wasp Nov 5, 2023, 3:37 PM

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hmmlux Isn't the sub mostly possitive with blizzcon so far?

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 3:38 PM

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Nah

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3 day early access with epic edition

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Even if there's no benefit (seasons for M+/raid start weeks later etc) it's still drawing a lot of hate and "HOW DISGUSTING"

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At most it'll be for the economy and people getting that leg up. Which mind you is a fair enough point

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queen wasp Nov 5, 2023, 3:40 PM

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AyakaNoteAnimated_FiaKaru I think 3 day early access is a valid complaint for a game with a sub fee. However the people it affacts most are likely the ones who buy the epic edition.

south steppe Nov 5, 2023, 3:41 PM

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I think it's probably a good thing because it reduces the load of a billion people trying to get their first log in at the same time

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And if you don't want to pay the extra you just wait 3 days, it's really not that big of a deal imo.

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I intend to wait and I hope that because some people are getting in days early I'll have better login times.

queen wasp Nov 5, 2023, 3:42 PM

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They already have systems in place to deal with that.

south steppe Nov 5, 2023, 3:42 PM

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queen wasp They already have systems in place to deal with that.

They don't seem to ever work Kekw

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I had a miserable time trying to play DF, Shadowlands, and BFA on launch, especially Shadowlands.

queen wasp Nov 5, 2023, 3:42 PM

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Also login server being busted would affect you even if you don't have the 3 day.

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Did anyone notice the rogue tank for classic+?

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 3:46 PM

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ameownodfast

queen wasp Nov 5, 2023, 3:46 PM

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Swashbuckler time.

tulip badger Nov 5, 2023, 3:47 PM

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ye i think im gonna play rogue

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 3:50 PM

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Yes! Rogue tank is so out of the blue and sounds awesome.

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...But Metamorph warlock tank with instant searing pain casts for aggro though...

tulip badger Nov 5, 2023, 3:51 PM

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though if you want to be desirable you probably wanna be a healer since a lot of people will want to rogue and warlock tank

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and mage healer doesnt sound very exciting

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 3:51 PM

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Druid healer sounds pretty fun with the Stormrage thing

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You can weave your wraths in for instant cast healing touches

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for damage/healing

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...Honestly I want that in retail. rdsnrk

south steppe Nov 5, 2023, 3:53 PM

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tulip badger and mage healer doesnt sound very exciting

I think that sounds cool

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honestly this whole thing reminds me of Ascension Classless WoW

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 3:56 PM

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One thing I don't like is that they're going into dual-wield enhancement shaman. I think Classic+ is the time to go all in on two-hand enhance.

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Windfury on a two-hand weapon is just... so... good...

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkuCB2hLBmk

YouTube

Syiler

Every Mount Coming in 10.2 and How to Get Them - Guardians of the D...

This guide will run through all of the mounts coming in patch 10.2 and how to obtain them. There a bunch of great looking mounts coming, a handful are easy but overall a good variety to obtain in 10.2 Guardians of the Dream.

00:00 Intro
00:11 Flourishing Whimsydrake
00:40 Ochre Dreamtalon
03:05 Emerald Bounties
08:25 Dream Infusions
11:21 Sunt...

▶ Play video

queen wasp Nov 5, 2023, 3:59 PM

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AyakaNoteAnimated_FiaKaru It's probably the level limit, with only 25 levels isn't two handed at the tailend of leveling?

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 4:03 PM

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I think you're right about two-hand being the tailend. One hand + shield is more optimal for health and mana while leveling. However, they're bringing in abilities for enchance that work off of off-hand weapons with dual-wield and two-hand doesn't get any enhancements to it which is the main bummer.

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Two-hand enhance in Classic was already niche. With dual-wield it's going to be obsolete with nothing added to it.

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Also, anyone else want Blizzard to just go crazy with gear for the different content "bands" in Classic +? I know having a legendary at level 25 is ridiculous but come on, it's a seasonal server!

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 4:17 PM

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https://www.wowhead.com/news/dragonflight-will-have-season-4-with-fated-raids-icy-veins-interview-recap-335938

Wowhead

Dragonflight Will Have Season 4 With Fated Raids - Icy Veins Interv...

In an interview with Icy Veins, Game Director Ion Hazzikostas confirmed that Dragonflight will have a Season 4, which will feature Fated Raids!

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No plans for Classic Timewalking, as Classic dungeons are "considered too simple" for modern players, which is why Timewalking starts with the Burning Crusade.

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 4:20 PM

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... TBC dungeons are a joke in Timewalking. That feels like an excuse. There's hardly any mechanics. And honestly? Timewalking is just for some mindless fun anyway.

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I'm a little sad to hear that.

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Glad fated raids are coming though

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Bad luck protection for the legendary axe from Fyrakk will be active from the very beginning. Yes, please.

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 4:26 PM

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On a side note, been exploring Warcraft Rumble a bit. It's fun enough. Kinda autobattler, but you gotta choose the mobs you're dropping onto the map to destroy the enemy boss/towers

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 4:31 PM

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I'll check it out. I want to snag the pet you get for playing it for a bit anyway.

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 4:50 PM

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darkmoon faire is active!

tulip badger Nov 5, 2023, 4:51 PM

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im really good at the cannon game

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 5:22 PM

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https://vxtwitter.com/TheWindstalker/status/1721011603670438260

vxTwitter - View original tweet for full quality

Twitter

Holly Longdale (@TheWindstalker)

About my BlizzCon jacket. I wanted to create one with an Alextrasza theme for our fans. I was connected with the magical Wanda at Renegade Effects Group. I gave our queen's images to her and she crafted the design and leather & velvety jacket! #BlizzCon2023 #transmog? :D

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 5:50 PM

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It's a great jacket!

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 5:52 PM

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elfin steeple *Bad luck protection for the legendary axe from Fyrakk will be active from the v...

Oh, so he's going to drop the big fuck-off axe?

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 5:56 PM

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elfin steeple ... TBC dungeons are a joke in Timewalking. That feels like an excuse. There's h...

I suspect the real reason behind this is they plan on reworking the old world zones in a couple expansions, so why bother? All those dungeons will have to get revamped too, so might as well wait until then.

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 5:59 PM

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thinklight ...That does make sense, yes. I could see that being the case! Also, yep... Fyrakk drops the big ol' alt+f4 sharp stick.

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:01 PM

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Hmmm. So do I level up a DK, Paladin, or roll a Warrior for that...

queen wasp Nov 5, 2023, 6:01 PM

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If you wait paladin will be any race

tulip badger Nov 5, 2023, 6:01 PM

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says who

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cause ive been waiting to be a void elf paladin for like 6 years now

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:01 PM

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Oh right, I've got a lowbie Dark Iron Paladin. That'd be perfect for him.

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:02 PM

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grizzled parcel Hmmm. So do I level up a DK, Paladin, or roll a Warrior for that...

I got two words for ya...

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DK

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Vulpera

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:02 PM

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rdsnrk

queen wasp Nov 5, 2023, 6:02 PM

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Wasn't that all the recent drama, people upset over paladins expanding to all races

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:02 PM

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Oh god, a Vulpera running around with that huge axe would be hilarious

tulip badger Nov 5, 2023, 6:02 PM

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never heard of this

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:02 PM

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dracthyr_nod

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undead paladins

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woo

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:03 PM

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I guess DK counts as the Void "Paladin" spec.

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Now I want to find an artist who will draw a Vulpera DK pulling that axe out of hammerspace and running towards a dragon.

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:04 PM

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Hmm, I see undeath and void as separate in my mind, but I do believe that's the closest we'll get to what you're thinking

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void paladin would be sick though

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:04 PM

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I think I read somewhere that the Lich King was a Void-entity, or at least drawing on the Void for his power.

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:05 PM

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Now we know that he drew his power from big daddy jailer in the maw.

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Thanks SL

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Glad DF is becoming the new player experience moving on

queen wasp Nov 5, 2023, 6:05 PM

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Wasn't it because part of the lich king wasn't just Arthas.

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Part of it was the warlock.

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:06 PM

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Right

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:06 PM

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already forgot his name, uh...

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Nerzul?

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Something like that?

queen wasp Nov 5, 2023, 6:06 PM

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At least if we keep ignoring SLs, which everyone should do.

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:07 PM

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Yeah, Ner'zhul

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:07 PM

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Didn't he die when Arthas took over?

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the helm of dom

tulip badger Nov 5, 2023, 6:08 PM

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But SL is why Anduin is cool now

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:08 PM

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and SL is why we cry about Arthas now

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double edge sword

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...Except one side is sharper than the other. I'll let you decide which.

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:09 PM

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Ner'zhul tried to overpower Arthas and lost. I don't know if he was fully destroyed, but Arthas became the dominant spirit in the Lich King.

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:09 PM

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Basically like when Babidi tried to take over Vegeta's mind in DBZ and failed but gave him a huge power boost.

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(random DBZ thing sorry)

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:10 PM

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Yeah, kinda like that. Arthas' will was stronger than Ner'zhuls, so when Ner'zhul tried to give him orders Arthas said "fuck you" and subsumed his soul.

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Matthias tried to reason with Arthas, but Arthas silenced him by running him through with Frostmourne. Ner'zhul was delighted by this, declaring that he and Arthas were now free to merge into a single glorious being. Arthas rejected this offer, stating that once he had the power of the Lich King, no one would tell him what to do again. He impaled the stunned Ner'zhul with Frostmourne, becoming the dominant personality of the Lich King and ending the dream.

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(This was while he was trapped in the ice after WC3 and before Wrath)

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:12 PM

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Ah, right.

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There's still the question of how much Arthas was in control once he aquired Frostmourne. I'll always wonder. Stupid SL...

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I'd imagine mostly

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Power corrupts afterall, don't need another entity controlling you

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:14 PM

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That depends on how much stock you put into the Jailer story.

Without the whole "Jailer is running the show" bit, I'd say Arthas was fully in control, he just bought into Ner'zhul's lies about power being the other path forward. With the Jailer, it's likely Arthas' mind was actually twisted until he wanted to be evil, similar to what happend with Anduin.

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:14 PM

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Yeah, I was thinking Anduin but I almost don't even consider SL canon even if it is...

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:15 PM

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I think we're going to have to accept it as "canon, but will never matter to the future of the story".

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:15 PM

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I wonder what the original creators were thinking though.

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Yes, that's the sad reality of it.

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I do like where they're going with Anduin at the very least though

queen wasp Nov 5, 2023, 6:16 PM

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Ask Metzen.

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:16 PM

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If we're lucky, Metzen will come up with a way to redeem the Jailer as we find out the big threat the Jailer was worried about, but....

queen wasp Nov 5, 2023, 6:16 PM

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He's back.

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:16 PM

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Jinx!

queen wasp Nov 5, 2023, 6:16 PM

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All he has to do is copy everyone's favorite show.

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https://tenor.com/view/tva-reset-charge-timeline-reset-reset-timeline-prune-gif-499499338542147658

Tenor

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:16 PM

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rdsnrk

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I expect after this trilogy of xpacs, we're going to get a world-revamp and a brand new storyline that basically lets people start from scratch, without knowing all this lore. Maybe a timeskip.

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:17 PM

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I don't think Metzen is going to want to touch the Jailer with a 6 foot pole, but I would certainly be interested in seeing him try!

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We're still waiting for the "bigger bad" the one the jailer warned us about...

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rdsnrk

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:18 PM

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I expect we'll find out that the Jailer was either afraid of the Titans, or of Azeroth herself, and wanted to try and thwart their plans for her.

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I expect Azeroth to wind up being some kind of uber-Titan, or a Titan-Void hybrid.

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:20 PM

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Titan-void-light hybrid. So, the void will be against the light for a time during the events that will be taking place (as per usual), both sides believing what they're doing is right... Up until the Titan is shown to be a hybrid of the two and to be against everything they both stand for, causing the two to join forces along with the heroes. Showing neither side is truly perfect... but can be better when together...

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Or some shit like that

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:23 PM

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Yup. The Void and the Light both want to extinguish each other, but that would result in a universe either of total darkness, or impossibly bright light, neither of which is good. So the Midnight expansion will likely be us fighting the Void, then discovering the Titans were up to some really awful shit, and both sides have to join together to fight the Titans in the last expansion pack, which leads to Azeroth's birth.

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:23 PM

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Now, because the Titan will be so powerful with the combination of both light and void, both light and void will take note of this... and may one day plan to work together with some grand plan.

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:23 PM

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grizzled parcel Yup. The Void and the Light both want to extinguish each other, but that would r...

Yes! I can see that.

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Void will be the "bad guy" at the start... but not really.

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People will just assume as always...

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:24 PM

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I think the Titans were trying to turn Azeroth into the ultimate weapon of Order: something that would let them shape the rest of the universe in their image, bringing everything to a grinding halt. But the Void latched onto Azeroth, trying to corrupt her, and now the Light wants to purge the Void, leading to all three being in conflict.

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Oh hey, it's the Triat from Werewolf: the Apocalypse. rdwut

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The Wyld (unbridled creation)
The Weaver (making form out of the chaos)
The Wyrm (destroying so that new creation can take its place)

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:26 PM

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Interesting...

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:26 PM

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Probably in the end, we'll help Azeroth become the avatar of all three, and then she fucks off into the universe, leaving us with the planet in its new form to start a new storyline.

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:26 PM

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I want to see what Alleria is going to end up doing.

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:26 PM

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~~Dying~~

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oopslittlepip

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:26 PM

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oof

queen wasp Nov 5, 2023, 6:27 PM

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She has to go after the priest dagger.

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:27 PM

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grizzled parcel Probably in the end, we'll help Azeroth become the avatar of all three, and then...

Ah, hence the revamped world.

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:27 PM

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flutternod

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:27 PM

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Okay, yes

queen wasp Nov 5, 2023, 6:28 PM

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Azeroth is Hydaelyn now. We're full circle.

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:29 PM

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I had to look that up. rdsnrk But yea, that sounds about right.

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:29 PM

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Slowly working on that game so I'll one day know what the means.

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 6:29 PM

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queen wasp She has to go after the priest dagger.

The priest dagger is Xalatath and she's loose now ppenk

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Has been since bfa!

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:29 PM

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She's going to throw a party and everyone is ~~invited~~ there.

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:30 PM

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Whether they like it or not

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 6:30 PM

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ppinkieuncontained

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:31 PM

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She's just misunderstood like Sylvanas

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 6:31 PM

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(not the emoji i was thinking of)

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:31 PM

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She's morally gray

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obviously

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:31 PM

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Oh right, Void Elves are available now, I should unlock one.

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:31 PM

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Go forth!

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And serve your new ~~queen~~ Empress.

queen wasp Nov 5, 2023, 6:31 PM

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You can turn them into high elves too.

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:32 PM

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Their Heritage armor is trash tho. rdsnrk

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:32 PM

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I like the nightborne stuff

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:33 PM

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yeah, Nightborne look awesome.

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:33 PM

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Mount too

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They got style. And they have one of my favorite cities in the entire game, which I'm super sad isn't a player one.

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:35 PM

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Yup

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I really wish Nightborne had been an Allied race available to both sides.

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:38 PM

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Well, eventually there will no longer be sides so it won't matter. ponk

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The question is what is the horde and alliance going to be called as one?

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Without sounding cheesy.

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:38 PM

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I thought about that a while back, wish I'd written it down

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:40 PM

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I've heard "For Azeroth" from prolific characters... So something along those lines...?

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:40 PM

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The Concorde
The Confederation
The League of Azeroth

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:42 PM

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The United Continents of Azeroth... rdsnrk

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:42 PM

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The Commonwealth of Azeroth

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:42 PM

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...Actually I feel like Azeroth will not be in the name for long after they find out what's at the core of it.

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:42 PM

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True

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:42 PM

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The Metzen Crew

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 6:44 PM

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Dragontopia

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 6:44 PM

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...So Zootopia but with dragons?

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I'm fine with this.

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 7:01 PM

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https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzcon-2023-meme-roundup-what-sword-335943

Wowhead

BlizzCon 2023 Meme Roundup - What Sword?

It's not a BlizzCon without the inevitable memes - we've rounded up some of the best of the best from the community, and as always have to ask ourselves: What Sword?

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 7:07 PM

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The expectation vs reality thing for warbands is 100% true. All my alts gear looks like it was found in the nearest dumpster while my main gets the AAA experience.

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Then when my main becomes my alt next expansion their good looking gear turns into gibberish and I don't bother fixing it.

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 7:20 PM

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elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 7:21 PM

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I skipped all that so that's probably why I'm chipper as ever! ppinkiebounce

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Best vacation ever.

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 7:23 PM

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Same. One day, I'll go back and burn through the SL story when I'm very, very bored and want something new to do.

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 7:24 PM

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Oh, trust me. I'll be right there with you three months into 10.2

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 8:21 PM

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https://vxtwitter.com/Krexxal/status/1720959696440611226

vxTwitter

Twitter

Krexxal | BLIZZCON 2023 (@Krexxal)

If 11.0 is War Within, then 12.0…

Is Midnight.

Goddammit Blizzard.

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queen wasp Nov 5, 2023, 8:40 PM

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SLs has some good stuff in the zones it is only the meta story that is bad.

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 8:45 PM

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I always found Revendreth to be super interesting

grizzled parcel Nov 5, 2023, 8:51 PM

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It sounds the most interesting of the zones

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 8:54 PM

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The art direction of SL is good

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I like Zereth Mortis. I wouldn't have liked doing the quests there originally though.

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 9:12 PM

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Maw was easily the worst, and unfortunately one of the places you had to spend most time ppenk

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 10:13 PM

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https://www.mmo-champion.com/content/11818-Dragonflight-Patch-10-2-Mount-Guide

Dragonflight Patch 10.2 Mount Guide - MMO-Champion

Dragonflight Patch 10.2 Mount Guide

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ooh

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elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 10:16 PM

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Yus. Wonder what month we're getting each... I think I like the shadowcycle out of the bunch but the green looks a little strange on it. I don't think it's because of the green specifically so much as the... texture and blotches of it in two places.

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the bettle looks the best

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 10:30 PM

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Also heroic raid will have a dragon appearance too! which is nice

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 10:33 PM

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Oh thank goodness. I'd been wondering about that.

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I probably won't try super hard for it but it's a nice bonus.

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...So basically do LFR for my warr/pally/dk for mount/legendary axe. Got it! (I'm assuming heroic raid you mean every difficulty like the last couple raids - unless you mean the achievement?)

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 10:40 PM

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elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 10:44 PM

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Neat!

atomic sonnet Nov 5, 2023, 10:50 PM

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so lfr for the left and the weapon, heroic for right

elfin steeple Nov 5, 2023, 11:22 PM

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flutternod

atomic sonnet Nov 6, 2023, 1:12 AM

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https://vxtwitter.com/LHP64D/status/1721296695831789859

vxTwitter

Twitter

Logan | LHP64D | Blizzcon (@LHP64D)

@TaliesinEvitel and @soulsobreezy told us to “never shut-up” about “Warband Camp Romances” and I’m gonna do my part 🫡

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rdsnrk

elfin steeple Nov 6, 2023, 1:50 AM

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... I've never once thought about shipping my characters, let alone with one another... But now I want this feature with the camp... Of course Tali was one of those people who supports it. I mean, who else?

elfin steeple Nov 6, 2023, 2:25 AM

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Less than two days to patch day!

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They haven't changed Dracothyst from being a mat needed to craft gear next patch so get ready to spend 7-10k per one early on. Woo!

atomic sonnet Nov 6, 2023, 11:41 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVDI_vYmz6M

YouTube

LazyBeast Gaming

GEAR UP in Patch 10.2 / Season 3 World of Warcraft: Dragonflight - ...

Let's take a look at all the ways we can gear up when patch 10.2 for World of Warcraft, Guardians of the Dream, launched on November the 7th! Season 3 starting the week of the 14th November! This time there's a bigger than usual increase in terms of the item level jump in the gear we will be able to earn, this video shows you all the ilvl gear y...

▶ Play video

grizzled parcel Nov 6, 2023, 11:45 AM

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I need to level up some characters over the next couple days. Not sure I want to take my Rogue into 10.2 as my main.

grizzled parcel Nov 6, 2023, 2:27 PM

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https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzcon-2023-wow-roundup-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-worldsoul-saga-335950

Wowhead

Blizzcon 2023 WoW Roundup - Everything You Need to Know about the W...

BlizzCon gave us enough information about upcoming content in Dragonflight, The War Within, and beyond to make anyone's head spin - here's everything you need to know in one roundup for easy viewing!

grizzled parcel Nov 6, 2023, 2:27 PM

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grizzled parcel https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzcon-2023-wow-roundup-everything-you-need-to-kn...

queen wasp Nov 6, 2023, 2:34 PM

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The logo changed. That's the big difference.

atomic sonnet Nov 6, 2023, 4:02 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0wL1UnGhBE

YouTube

CarbotAnimations

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▶ Play video

atomic sonnet Nov 6, 2023, 4:44 PM

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https://vxtwitter.com/SamTalkzTV/status/1721550661903392787

vxTwitter

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SamTalkz @ Blizzcon (@SamTalkzTV)

NO ONE TOLD ME THE LITTLE WRATHION PET IN THE CATA CLASSIC HEROIC PACK HAD HIS OLD HAT. I AM DYING ALIHJOIENCA

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https://vxtwitter.com/ThembieMoth/status/1721355164983144709

vxTwitter

Twitter

Leonar ⬩ Ren'dorei Cowboy 🔆 (@ThembieMoth)

I hate to tag y'all @WarcraftDevs but something needs to be done ASAP - the Foam Sword Rack is a physical object that can't be passed through and people are setting it up like this to prevent others from entering or exiting the SW portal room.

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dracthyr_lulmao

grizzled parcel Nov 6, 2023, 4:55 PM

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oh no

elfin steeple Nov 6, 2023, 4:59 PM

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The horde portal room would require like 10 to do this

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Also, one more day! sweetiestareintensifies

grizzled parcel Nov 6, 2023, 5:17 PM

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Oh is the patch tomorrow? For some reason I thought it was Thursday.

queen wasp Nov 6, 2023, 5:29 PM

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It is.

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Eulagroove

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Going to be down all day however so Wednesday.

elfin steeple Nov 6, 2023, 5:33 PM

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That just means I'll be up all night. ponk

atomic sonnet Nov 6, 2023, 7:55 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igx97MapnXc

YouTube

World of Warcraft

Everything Coming in Guardians of the Dream (10.2) | Ft. Kelani

Dragonflight’s next major patch, Guardians of the Dream, launches November 7, 2023 PST. Watch as SignsOfKelani breaks down the biggest new features.

► Latest WoW news: http://worldofwarcraft.com/news
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► Follow Warcraft on Twitt...

▶ Play video

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oh shit, that's kelani on the official wow channel ooh

elfin steeple Nov 6, 2023, 8:06 PM

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The only person that would genuinely surprise me doing something like this with Blizz would be Asmongold (because I can't see a universe where this happens lmfao). Kelani is cool!

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I honestly think most WoW content creators like Kelani could do a colab with them easily. So many good channels.

atomic sonnet Nov 6, 2023, 8:08 PM

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I've seen Bellular on it too in the past

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Asmon may have done it too but it would have been like 10 years ago

elfin steeple Nov 6, 2023, 8:09 PM

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I think... oh shoot what's her name... Hazelnutgaming? Something like that? Has too.

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yeah, the 10.2 zone looks sooooo much better than Zerelak Cavern. cadancewheeze

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Less dreary, that's for sure.

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Man, 441 gear being basically the new baseline starting out means alts are going to be kitted out and able to crush through SL RF content np.

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Guess I'll have to start farming for that stupid ghost horse mount from the 9.1 raid now...

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Green gear starts at 428 now, which... dang that's... that's heroic AB gear already...

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oof

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You know what's funny though... Even though people are still farming for the mount transmog off of Raz and Scalecommander... We're still going to wipe at least once or twice off those bosses even with people coming in with 428+ ilvl gear...

atomic sonnet Nov 6, 2023, 8:23 PM

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twicry

elfin steeple Nov 6, 2023, 8:24 PM

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You got the ras one though, right? I can't remember.

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Idk if I can be bothered to farm on a bunch of characters for probably a 0.5% drop on LFR.

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for just a skin

atomic sonnet Nov 6, 2023, 8:25 PM

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yus

elfin steeple Nov 6, 2023, 8:25 PM

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noice

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I think I like that one better than the scalecommander one, but ever since someone called her a giant purple lightning chicken I'm not sure anymore... or maybe I want it even more now...

elfin steeple Nov 6, 2023, 9:00 PM

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stupid stonecore mount won't drop zzz

atomic sonnet Nov 6, 2023, 9:50 PM

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https://www.wowhead.com/classic/news/all-class-and-role-combinations-in-wow-classic-season-of-discovery-335960

Wowhead

All Class and Role Combinations in WoW Classic Season of Discovery

Here is a breakdown of all the confirmed Class and Role combinations coming to Season of Discovery! These new Runes are unlocked through Discoveries, which are secrets that have to be uncovered through various means.

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the ff14 cross over yoship talked about https://vxtwitter.com/keyboardturn/status/1721037954670628933

vxTwitter

Twitter

Ellie - might post spoilers-ish 💙 (@keyboardturn)

https://t.co/2agWbQ5qBv

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queen wasp Nov 6, 2023, 10:04 PM

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FF14 and WoW Collab would be fun for the drama.

#World of Warcraft