Speaking of fishing, this Otto grind is rough :/
#World of Warcraft
tulip badger
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
Speaking of fishing, this Otto grind is rough :/
So annoying too, I really want that mount...
atomic sonnet
So I'm googling to see when a primal storm boss appears (if it's % based or based on timer) and... I think I found a google translated page.
Dragonflight Primal Storms Bosses
Every 50 minutes or so a minivan spawns where an elemental of this bone and nearby mobs will become imbued with the invading element and drop new primeval ascends. Since there are 4 types of invasions, each invasion fills the area with Primalist NPCs, as well as imbuing already existing NPCs in the area with abilities of the invading element. The boss is surrounded by a shield that is removed by killing 100 input mobs in their area. When The Shield is removed the boss can be killed for new loot and more primeval senses.
elfin steeple
lol I have 18 of those blue storm tokens but I'm too lazy to farm the other currency needed for gear
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
Oof. That's rough.
atomic sonnet
Heck, I just did a +2 as a 358 evoker, and did pretty okay. You should be fine in M+, i'd say. Just be wary once affixes start coming in
elfin steeple
got one +9 in for the week, good enough.
grizzled parcel
Huh. Didn't realize the Metzen the Reindeer quest could reward a decent trinket for my alts.
Also, TIL there's a portal trainer in Valdrakken. 
grizzled parcel
Congrats!
grizzled parcel
Nice
atomic sonnet
Which is funny since i got maruuk level five on my evoker to get that
grizzled parcel
Aw, maintenance.
elfin steeple
I uh, wut? Okay?
I had that happen too... Something strange going on with the renown system.
grizzled parcel
I think it's treating Rank 5 just like Exalted from old reps.
atomic sonnet
Yeah that's absolutely what's going on, since exalted is indeed the 5th. I'm just surprised it's counted as a rep like that, is all
Not gonna complain, i've been close to that one for a while
US servers back up, let's see what's in my vaults
Dang, just one +2 on my evoker and it got me 385 tier shoulders 
And got me to 360 so I can do lfr! 
elfin steeple
Ohh, this is from the weekly quest this week for doing 4 mythic dungeons.
atomic sonnet
grizzled parcel
I think we might have a new secret:
https://www.wowhead.com/news/bloodthirsty-gnoll-cub-cheers-you-on-asks-for-high-five-330573
tulip badger
anyone got a nice vault this week
atomic sonnet
Got an upgrade but it's just boots, nothing amazing like a trinket or weapon or tier
elfin steeple
I got some legs that were 19 ilvl higher and just learned there are leg enchants this expansion lol
tulip badger
yeah mine give 177 int and 5% larger mana pool!
elfin steeple
I'm planning on getting the r3 ones once the prices drops a tiny bit later in the week. They're sitting at 25k right now because of reset day.
unfortunately the legs had haste/vers which I'm pretty sure are my least favorable? I'll have to double check.
tulip badger
i forgot what your class/spec was
elfin steeple
evoker preservation
and it looks like it was crit/haste so not bad I think!
Also just got enough chaos to finally get myself a crafted weapon. Just need to get the primal infusion now.
The weapon enchant only cost me 124k, ya know... not... bad... at... all...
tulip badger
why would you buy that are you nutso
elfin steeple
Yep, apparently. Prices already dropped to 108 since this morning. Average according to TSM is about 101k. Hopefully I'll be keeping the weapon for a good long while...
tulip badger
well you can upgrade it at least
elfin steeple
That's the main reason I decided to just bite the bullet, but I think I'll spend the first primal on the lariat neck.
unless they nerf it
tulip badger
weapon ilvl is going to get you a lot more than neck ilvl
elfin steeple
Oh, right... the weapon does have a truck ton of int. I don't think the temp stat increase of the neck will go up that much with the next upgrade.
Dang, leg enchants are already up to 30k now. Everyone must be getting leg upgrades from the vault or weekly quest this week!
atomic sonnet
@grizzled parcel Huh. Not sure if i've just been missing it each week (megadoh if that's the case) but it seems that tuskarr village drum respawned to give me some more knowledge points. Thought it was a one time thing 
Oh, the highland drake looks cool in this bronze too
Ah yes. Awarding a weapon for a quest... about photography
grizzled parcel
<@129646994053398528> Huh. Not sure if i've just been missing it each week (mega...
Neat! I'll have to check on that tomorrowl
grizzled parcel
atomic sonnet
Yeah saw that already, but also far too late
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
lol at the green lantern actually having a lantern.
atomic sonnet
Managed to get enough renown to get two new mount colorings. Didn't buy the colors for all drakes, just one, but so far I have three dragons with new colors
Because black highland drake is obligatory
elfin steeple
I see you went with the mountain dew & doritos variant for the 2nd one.
atomic sonnet
Improved timelost proto
And I'll keep red for the goblin abomination. That or blue, unsure.
tulip badger
if you want to get some m+ score this is the week to do it
its soooo easy compared to the first two weeks
Timed four 20s today.
grizzled parcel
God dammit. Was trying to get to a rare and apparently flew over a World Quest that had enemies that can shoot you out of the sky.
Needless to say, I plummeted to my death.
And then I literally stumbled into Seige on Dragonbane Keep. I have no idea what happened, but I ran along with people until it finished.
grizzled parcel
if you want to get some m+ score this is the week to do it
I'm still not geared yet.
atomic sonnet
I'm still not geared yet.
What ilevel are you? You don't need to be too high to do +2 or 3s
grizzled parcel
345
I could probably blow a Titan Training Matrix or two and make some higher ilvl gear for myself.
Welp, just got a new chest, and made some bracers, so 347 now.
grizzled parcel
Hm. I might try M0 just to get a feel for it then.
I've still not run half the dungeons yet, so that makes me cautious.
Oh, LOL, there's an achievement for when two people pull a Lunker ashore at the same time
elfin steeple
if you want to get some m+ score this is the week to do it
Alright, I'll try for at least a +15 if I can get in one.
atomic sonnet
Hm. I might try M0 just to get a feel for it then.
Oh def get a feel for the rest then, or at least the ones in the M+ list. The main difference is that pulls are avoided, some snuck by, and there's a clock to beat
elfin steeple
Hm. I might try M0 just to get a feel for it then.
If you want to start out easy try Halls of Infusion or Neltharus
atomic sonnet
Mostly important if you are a tank, but as a dps or heals you mostly concern yourself with that job
elfin steeple
For m0
grizzled parcel
My main problem is that even the Heroics have tanks that just rush through the area, so I have no idea what I'm doing until we're in a melee.
elfin steeple
For an m0 that has a m+ I guess you could try Nokhud?
Just avoid Ruby and Azure for now and you'll be okay
atomic sonnet
Tanks will sadly always rush because they think they're in the M+ esports thing, even in lower levels
So if you want a slower pace you prob have to tank yourself
elfin steeple
But, one you can't do on m0 but can on m+, Shadowmoon Burial, is incredibly easy. Last couple weeks it had a 97%+ completion rate! Much higher than the others. It's even easy on high keys. The tank has to kind of slow down too because several mobs need to be cc'd to avoid heavy damage so it's likely one of the most chill dungeons currently from my perspective?
There's a few boss mechanics to keep in mind so looking up a quick guide would go a long way.
atomic sonnet
https://twitter.com/Blizzard_ANZ/status/1607915909699588096 i love the madness going on in this pic
I found one!
grizzled parcel
atomic sonnet
You know what feels awesome? Killing galleon for a chance at the mount (no drop 
) on my evoker... and then casting soar to dragonflight without the mount from the spawn area to the flightpath (so I can then go to the next rare)
And turning the camera to watch all the peons on normal mounts that i'm leaving in the dust
elfin steeple
It's all fun and games until they open up dragonflight to all zones and mounts and you see this thing coming in for a landing at mach 2: https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/563878-bloodfang-cocoon.jpg
atomic sonnet
That ain't a flying mount though :X
elfin steeple
Not yet
atomic sonnet
Huh, I guess i got this while killing some dinos when hunting for the Oondasta mount. Got an egg, and it finally hatched
https://www.wowhead.com/item=94291/reins-of-the-red-primal-raptor and this dropped
Ah, i had the others from the egg, that's the last one
elfin steeple
I like how you can see a couple pairs of footprints that lead back to the cave after the dwarf dies
elfin steeple
Now I'm really curious if the cave entrance follows you to the ends of the earth or not if you try to get away.
Annnd that makes for another sentence I'll add to my collection of things that make absolutely no sense without context or will ever be said again folder.
Ugh, I don't wanna do Grumpus dailies today...
I'm curious what their plan for professions are over the course of the expansion. I'm assuming we'll have new pieces to craft as the next major patches come out, or at least I hope so. I mean, they have the primal system which will allow people to continue upgrading the same piece of gear but, hmm... I'd like to be able to craft new gems like epic versions of the rare gems, but I have no idea how or if they'll do anything for most other professions.
Also, if they did add more, better and harder to make gear would they add more profession trees and/or better, maybe epic versions of profession gear to make it easier to make? If they expanded the profession tree route, I have no idea how well that would work as people could just stock up on their knowledge points, as by that point, they would probably be done with spending them on whatever they could to get the most out of their specializations and then they would have leftovers for more trees, which seems... weird? Unless of course they reset whatever KP you hadn't spent, which seems like a terrible idea, so perhaps they could force those points to be spent if you have room to spend them before the update?
elfin steeple
poor locks and hunters!? I mean, yes 2/3 of their specs are performing terribly but at least they have something they can play as and do reasonably! Look at devastation evokers! They're the only class performing at the bottom half of the dps barrel and they don't have another spec to clam onto!
Also, no I don't play devastation but I'm gonna complain anyway because its a spec of a class that I do play. Lol.
What I'm more surprised is how low frost and fire are still after the major buffs they'd received recently.
Wait, actually I'm not sure if the buffs came in time for it to be counted by that statistic... I guess we'll see by the end of this week.
queen wasp
It's usually tough for the casters when the secondary stats are low (at the start of a set).
That being said Fire/Frost mages isn't about numbers they need to do a some revamping to bring them up.
Ret Paladins is what you'd expect with their dev quitting a few months before launch.
Survival Hunters are the new feral druid (who are doing well for once)
grizzled parcel
Outlaw still topping the charts?... maybe I should jump into Mythic.
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
Yeah, outlaws are pretty insane.
atomic sonnet
Trash and 5 raid bosses
So that DJardin who makes you kill 20 elite dragons... apparently that's a weekly quest T_T
tulip badger
I thought they nerfed it to like 5 dragons or something
atomic sonnet
It is, but that's just to help identify it ๐
The important part is that it's a weekly, and I didn't know until today
tulip badger
What does it give? good rep?
atomic sonnet
Lore about the Djardin
elfin steeple
Hmm, lore right now but perhaps it'll lead to something obtainable whenever the last weekly quest for it is completed.
tulip badger
its a good time to be a gem cutter 
elfin steeple
Woah, was that from just one commission?
queen wasp
I'm making a lot of gold off the cloth dailies too.
elfin steeple
Wait, tailors have dailies?
tulip badger
no thats like 10 people
I charge 5k for the 26% inspiration proc and 30k for my illustrious insight
elfin steeple
Oh... uh... shoot I should have brought this up earlier as I was wondering about that... but uh.
You should definitely sell the insights for more, like at least twice as much more.
Because uh, I've easily been selling them for 60k
tulip badger
who is spending 60k on a gem lol
elfin steeple
Funny that, when I do inspirations only, the highest commissions I've seen are like 3k otherwise lol
It's 50 mettle and you'd be surprised.
I've sold 10 so far
so 600k
One day I had 3 people back to back instantly whisper me
tulip badger
i dont think thats gonna roll on silvermoon eu very competitive market
elfin steeple
I think our server may be overinflated.
and that
Anyway, if 30k is normal on that server then by all means. That's still a lot for not a whole lot of work needed to be spent each week getting the mettle.
I should probably start charging 5k for inspiration and give free rerolls.
queen wasp
Yeah, tailors have two bolts of cloth on timers.
elfin steeple
Oh, I see. I had thought you meant daily quests, which is why I was confused.
grizzled parcel
So, I went to camp Huolon, and a dracthyr was waiting there. The instant he spawned, the dracthyr killed it... and didn't loot the body. Considering they're in a PVP guild, I think they're just trolling.
atomic sonnet
IIn lfr on my evoker.. there's a warlock named demosucks
grizzled parcel
This will be a mess.
grizzled parcel
Yup, was a shitshow.
elfin steeple
It always is. I've yet to come across one that had less than 100 people.
grizzled parcel
Have to wait on the next one to get my daily, because I only got 3/5 tasks.
elfin steeple
Oh, well thankfully that quest is a weekly I'm pretty sure.
So you'll only have to deal with the chaos every once and a while.
But that sucks... Only getting 3 tasks during the whole duration is really unlucky.
Blizz should just add a protection layer where it has to give you another task if a certain amount of time passed since the last one you completed
grizzled parcel
Yeah
grizzled parcel
I'm holding off turning in a bunch of quests until Sunday, when DMF is back.
atomic sonnet
As you level renown you can have a temporary companion during the grand hunt
grizzled parcel
Neat!
atomic sonnet
Either a bakar or the bird. You can talk to someone in the centaur capital or the npc of where the hunt is to tweak some powers/colors
grizzled parcel
I really need to level reputations, I haven't even hit Rep 10 with anyone yet.
Just did my first Hunt
atomic sonnet
Dragonscale and Valdrakken are going to be the easiest by far
grizzled parcel
Dragonscale is my lowest. 
I just haven't bothered doing their quest hubs yet. Probably start on them once DMF hits
atomic sonnet
Try to get to the level where you can do the "banners". I think 8? Maybe. With DMF you get 10% more and there's 20 of those things throughout the zones total, and it's like 5000 rep if you get them all
tulip badger
Im trying to figure out what the difference is
Seems like two achievements for the exact same thing
grizzled parcel
I wonder if they're going to add more levels to him later?
elfin steeple
But how cool would it be to have the Lich King carry you around on his shoulders.
grizzled parcel
Welp, I just spent 1500-ish gold and an hour to unlock a new Hearthstone
grizzled parcel
That's the one with that incense, right?
Yeah, you have to use the incense in a hut to see the spirit ancestors & give them stuff.
atomic sonnet
Right, right. Still have that in my inventory 
atomic sonnet
Right, weekly done on my alt (before my main, even). Let's see what the gacha gods give me
Just on ilevel alone no matter what it'll be an upgrade, just a matter of how much depending on the slot ๐
Quite possibly the best slot it could choose, lol
elfin steeple
Oh me, oh my.
atomic sonnet
Herbalists (and miners), I've finally gotten enough points on my alt to do mounted mining/herbing. What now?
elfin steeple
Something strange going on with the Alchemist's transmutation cooldown... So, a few days ago it said I only had 3/10 crafts available. Which makes sense because a few days prior to that I used up all 10/10 available crafts for all my alts. However, on Wednesday; the day after I did the 3/10 crafts for all my characters, I suddenly had 10/10 crafts available on a non-reset day for US and somehow bypassed having to wait another 7-8ish days for 10/10 crafts to become available again normally.
Unless Wednesday is just the normal day for the crafts to fully reset, then bleh.
Anyway, I made 160k profits in transmuting air 8 days earlier than normal, so I'm not going to complain!
grizzled parcel
Yeah, apparently it's a similar visual bug to the "Azureweave" problem that Tailors had a while back
tulip badger
try not to get banned like the tailors did
grizzled parcel
I just encountered a world quest that has you drink an experimental alchemist's potion and then kill the miniature evil verisons of myself it created.
atomic sonnet
Goody little two shoes!
atomic sonnet
And now for my DH's gacha from the quest
Sigh
ilevel upgrade but literally the same item as my vault choice earlier this week...
389 to 402 but any other choice would've been nice
grizzled parcel
atomic sonnet
masque: got the tuskaar leatherworking patterns so i can make all blue leatherworking profession stuff. Usually 4 star, if ya need anything made on zul'jin
grizzled parcel
Nice!
My leatherworker is on Stormrage ATM. I'm considering leveling someone on Zul'jin for it, so I might send an order for those just to have them later.
atomic sonnet
Hmm, apart from doing 4 more M+ for the vault... think i'm done for now until DMF comes back. WQ will be done then
grizzled parcel
Did the Tuskarr soup event. Got the two orders I needed to finish yesterday's quest. Got my reward, but couldn't eat the soup for the buff.
grizzled parcel
If anyone on Zul'jin wants a basic fishing hat, I have fucktons I can't sell.
atomic sonnet
At some point it's more economical to vendor. Or if you have an alt with enchanting, disenchant them
grizzled parcel
Yeah, thought I'd offer first, but Disenchanting for dust is my next step.
tulip badger
whats the deal with fishing hats anyway
the only profession equipment slot for fishing is for the rod
grizzled parcel
Hats with +Fishing have existed in the game for decades. I don't know why they decided not to make them Accessories, at least the new ones should be.
(I also wish my old Stranglethorn Fishing Extravaganza rewards were Account-Bound.)
elfin steeple
Day 15 of doing the same 4 Grumpus dailies across 14 characters be like:
...I think this is the last year I'm doing it.
grizzled parcel
I've only done it across 4-5 characters and not every day.
elfin steeple
I've almost hit the average I'm expecting. I'm at 6. Just need one more; 28 chances left!
Who knows! I might end up getting 28 more!
ezpz rngezzy
grizzled parcel
Welp, I decided to be stupid, and subscribed two dummy Battle.net accounts under Recruit-a-Friend so I can get the rewards for myself.
elfin steeple
Welcome to club!!
grizzled parcel
So in about 6 months I'll have all those rewards.
elfin steeple
atomic sonnet
๐ธ
grizzled parcel
Eh, I had saved some money recently, so 
And I get a few months of subscription back out of it.
elfin steeple
It's true. It's especially worth it in the beginning. It's not worth it after the last reward because you only get +1 month after every 3 months of on extra subscription.
grizzled parcel
True. I expect sometime next year they'll refresh the rewards, tho. This promotion has been up for a while.
elfin steeple
Yeah, I'm surprised they haven't yet honestly. Feels like it's been up for like 4 years or so
grizzled parcel
Looks like the current version went up in 2019, so you're not far off.
Of course, if they do refresh it next year, these two accounts I activated won't qualify, and I'll have to do something else.
But really, I want the flying mount & the outfit from this one.
grizzled parcel
Yeah, it's a pretty good chunk of cash. thankfully I don' thave any major expenses planned for January. And we should have a decent tax return this year.
atomic sonnet
I did also do the one year thing for those two mounts and stuff soooo
grizzled parcel
Me too. 
atomic sonnet
(i'm good for like april 2024 or so)
elfin steeple
Well, hey who knows! Maybe the promotion will still be going strong through then.
Until May 2024... Which then you'll need to open up 12 extra accounts all at once.
grizzled parcel
Oh god, yeah, I wasn't doing that mess. I'll wait 6 months.
elfin steeple
Well hopefully they would say something and not last minute, but uh, who knows.
elfin steeple
Welp, I tried +11 this week with thundering and it was an immediate disaster lmfao.
elfin steeple
Think I'll uh, pass on high keys for now. Maybe another week.
atomic sonnet
Depends on which key, too. Don't tell me you tried life pools?
That and Azure Vaults seem to be the worst of the bunch especially at high keys
elfin steeple
Nope. It was surprising in a Shadowmoon. I think US is harder this week. EU has different affixes, right?
Tank rushed in, pulled like 15 mobs and people dropped like flies.
With fortified sanguine volcanic and thundering
atomic sonnet
Oh well yeah, overpulling is constantly an issue. There's some nasty stuff in there regardless of the affixes
Though sanguine is the real pain if not everyone is interrupting or pulling stuff away
elfin steeple
Okay, it must have been the overpulling because I thought I was going crazy. The next time I tried a +10 it was pretty easy and chill lol
Of course I ended up changing my azure key for a ruby key...
smdh
tulip badger
Nah EU and US have the same affixes
tulip badger
That and Azure Vaults seem to be the worst of the bunch especially at high keys
Speaking of Azure Vault, we had a pretty clutch run there ๐ฅน
theres a cool website that uses raider.io data to make tier lists on what classes are good and what dungeons are hard for the current affixes
So azure vault is the hardest to time this week
grizzled parcel
So lower level M+ just has one or tow affixes right?
tulip badger
Yeah its only increased mob hp and damage until like 4 or something
grizzled parcel
Okay, good. I might try to do those tomorrow or Monday then.
atomic sonnet
Speaking of Azure Vault, we had a pretty clutch run there ๐ฅน
Clean kill! 
atomic sonnet
So lower level M+ just has one or tow affixes right?
2+ will be either fort or tyrannical. First is increased trash mob health/damage, tyrannical is boss
grizzled parcel
Gotcha.
atomic sonnet
4/7 are the ones that change most often, and some can be big pains. 10+ is always the same for the whole season
Depending on the type of player you are, it varies which one is most problematic there. Thundering is a half buff/half debuff but it's fairly easy to learn... but yeah. I think you should be fine up to +3, +4 might depend on the week and how quick you get used to the affix
grizzled parcel
I probably won't ever go above +2, I just have no real interest in it.
And I'll probably only do LFR for raiding.
atomic sonnet
Fair
grizzled parcel
elfin steeple
Almost to my goal of +15 for the week. Did +12.
atomic sonnet
Nice, haven't done one of those yet. Pugging's a bitch
elfin steeple
Some are great some are not
elfin steeple
From weekly. Not too shabby, thankfully it wasn't the same slot as the vault.
elfin steeple
Did a +14 and got a 395 chest to replace my 372 one. One more + to go. I'll try tomorrow.
atomic sonnet
I've done enough of the grumpus quests that all my farming characters are now 61
elfin steeple
Mine are at 62 because of it and alchemy.
atomic sonnet
Also since it's a new DMF, there should be new profession quests again
elfin steeple
Oh, that'd be nice actually. How much kp did they give again? 2? 3?
grizzled parcel
3
elfin steeple
Oh, shoot. I should have saved my world quests. Ah, well.
Nice!
I just realized I now have to do m+ for five other dungeons I haven't touched to upgrade my pieces. Never bothered to see what the valor was for until now. Also, anyone know if you can get tier pieces from the vault without doing the raid?
atomic sonnet
I'm not sure about that, actually
tulip badger
atomic sonnet
"Note that any earned loot slot has a chance to drop a Tier Piece. This means that if you earn a piece of M+ or PvP loot, that piece has a chance to be Tier Gear even if you have not completed a raid."
tulip badger
5/8 done
elfin steeple
Which 3 do you have left to do?
elfin steeple
"Note that any earned loot slot has a chance to drop a Tier Piece. This means th...
Wait, does that mean they can drop at the end of a m+ run?
atomic sonnet
No, I think it's vault only
elfin steeple
Ah, okay.
atomic sonnet
I think it's another 2 weeks until the catalyst is usable to get tier pieces
elfin steeple
Wasn't there some system they have where you can turn in gear for tier pieces? I vaguely remember something along those lines.
Oh.
Lol
Hmm, I wonder if they'll let ya upgrade the tier pieces in exchange for some form of currency at the end of higher m+ runs
tulip badger
I have to do Ruby Life Pools, Halls of Valor, and Temple of the jade serpent
all pretty hard
tulip badger
35% inspiration 
elfin steeple
That's crazy. With incense and a inspiration cloth you'd be at 40% I take it?
tulip badger
I dont know, are those things expensive?
elfin steeple
the cloth is like 500g on my realm and the incense was like 1.5-2k and lasts 30m
elfin steeple
trying to get my m+ score up to 1k. Did a ruby +8, dps was a little rough but man was healing it a pain already.
elfin steeple
k, hit 1k. Can now upgrade stuff to 402. Gonna wait to see what I get in the vault first before I do all that though just in case...
atomic sonnet
Weapons and trinkets, usually the first target
elfin steeple
I'd be pretty happy with most anything so long as it's not a haste/vers cloak.
If the 408 is that I'm picking whatever else there is.
grizzled parcel
elfin steeple
The sooner the better. I'd like to play ally on my 99.1% horde server and join a guild on them.
grizzled parcel
I've been tempted to roll a Dark Iron Dwarf on Zul'jin, just to have a Blacksmithing focused character. But everyone I know there is Horde.
elfin steeple
I mean, not too much in the way of stopping ya there! As long as you aren't planning on joining a guild and raiding or whatever with them you should be able to accomplish that just fine.
lol, M+ logic: +14? "Oh, yes please! Join us." +15? "Hmm, you're not 2400+ this season yet, instant decline."
atomic sonnet
Pretty much
elfin steeple
Also, I guess my server has very few just M+ oriented guilds? Having a hard time finding and joining any, strangely enough.
elfin steeple
Ah, well. Guess I'll have to join one of those then.
atomic sonnet
so i'm queueing for a 12 vault... 2 monks (healer and tank). I'm a DH. 4th person is another monk
I'm assuming #5 will be a leatherwearer
elfin steeple
Eh, nonsense! The more melee the better. If I can do a +12 with 4 warriors in time, any comp can work.
I was very stressed healing though I'll say that
Tyrannical raging tomorrow. I really should have pushed a little more this week but I can't be bothered right now. I'll do high keys regardless and go by trial of fire if I have to.
In fact! First thing I'll do tomorrow is a +15 academy! 
atomic sonnet
One of my most fun dungeons was in BFA, a druid tank and monk healer (or reverse, I forget), and 3 DH DPS
Doing a +9 manor and we murdered it
elfin steeple
Safe to say that manners were never an option at that manor. I'd like to see that dungeon make a return for one of the seasons. I do remember liking it while I briefly played BFA.
atomic sonnet
Yay, done my 8 for the week... just need one more to erase this level 9 one from the 8 dungeon reward
atomic sonnet
There we go, all 10s+
elfin steeple
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
inb4 3 cloaks
If I see that, I'm instantly grabbing the essence and getting a meta socket for some crafted bracers or something
atomic sonnet
I do like how far the draw distance is in this xpac. You don't even need the map to find your way if you recognize landmarks
atomic sonnet
I mean, you're not wrong
elfin steeple
--Very true. Also, crossing out text is fun.--
google lied to me
not gonna correct that
grizzled parcel
atomic sonnet
grizzled parcel
Discord uses two tildes for strikeout.
~~Like this~~
elfin steeple
ty
elfin steeple
1400, and my 8/8 is an 11. Hopefully a heroic tier piece from the vault, would be nice.
atomic sonnet
Woops. Realized that I'd forgotten to do grumpus yesterday, so was gonna do them now before reset... except it ended at 6 am yesterday
grizzled parcel
Yeah, I managed to get a couple more in yesterday morning, got nothing of value.
atomic sonnet
did a +7 halls on my evoker right before server reset... we rushed like crazy to time it and got it with 2 min left over on server reset
elfin steeple
Y'all are crazy. I respect it.
elfin steeple
ah shit I have tough choices to make
Not going staff, I'm thinking... trinket? No idea if it's good or not. Tier is enticing.
elfin steeple
Think I'll lock in the chest since I can always farm M+ for a chance for a trinket drop and upgrade that, whereas I can only get tier from the vault until the catalyst since I don't raid.
atomic sonnet
atomic sonnet
Aw yeah
grizzled parcel
Man, I will never manage to finish that grind.
90% of the time I don't even know what's happening in that zone.
queen wasp
If that is the black dragonflight stuff, you just gotta do the weekly quests.
Otherwise it is just killing random npcs for keys that you turn in for rep.
atomic sonnet
Pretty much. You go choose one of the two dragons, then if you have keys/frames, turn in one to them for a big weekly boost. (you can still turn in more later but much smaller amounts).
Surrounding the two are other NPCs that have yellow quests (weeklies). Pick all those up, do them, get tons of rep. If any rares pop up, fly with everyone else to kill them (silverdragon or rarescanner helps a lot here)
If you want more you can keep killing mobs for more keys/frames but that's the no life version of the grind so don't bother :X
queen wasp
If you're sticking to open worldish type stuff, only doing the weeklies will get you pretty good progress. Only exception is the Cobalt stuff.
atomic sonnet
Still not entirely sure how that one works myself. Just kill mobs in that area, right?
queen wasp
It is Torghast but outdoors.
You use the LFG finder, join a group, kill random things, get buffs, keep killing random things. Repeat for about 4 hours.
Last time I did it I had above 100% crit/mastery/haste and something like 300% extra health.
elfin steeple
@tulip badger What's your UI like for healing? Do you have a setup for being able to see what defensives people haven't used yet?
tulip badger
I have vudho
and no thats way too much to keep track of
You have to believe in your friends โบ๏ธ
grizzled parcel
Pretty much. You go choose one of the two dragons, then if you have keys/frames,...
I've yet to get enough key parts to make one key during a week.
elfin steeple
Do you know if there's a way to show debuffs outside of the panels in vuhdo? I've found how to do so for dots, but not debuffs. I'd like to be able to see what I need to dispel easier.
tulip badger
Outside of the panels?
elfin steeple
outside of player frames
tulip badger
no mine are inside them
elfin steeple
I love vuhdo, but it and ElvUI both make me want to pull my hair out. There's too much.
grizzled parcel
Yeah, I tried those both back during MoP and gave up. They're just too busy.
atomic sonnet
I've yet to get enough key parts to make one key during a week.
That's mostly not spending enough time there/not tagging enough stuff. Usually people will be killing mobs (well, earlier in the week after reset, the better). Everything in the area drops the key parts, so just tag whatever you can that others are fighting and loot
grizzled parcel
yeah, the problem is there are massive raid groups running around killing things before I can get close or blocking the tag.
atomic sonnet
Unrelated: I find when doing the dragonriding races, I do better/concentrate more when I have the dragonriding music playing ingame
tulip badger
What, not city escape?
atomic sonnet
Raid groups won't work I think, usually it's the usual 5 tags top unless it's rares
grizzled parcel
May not work, but I know people on Reddit have still been mistakenly trying it right up through yesterday. Apparently people still haven't gotten the memo.
atomic sonnet
And in that case it's best to go in premade group finder to get a group of your own. Don't even need to stay to get hundreds of keys, just get enough for the week, maybe even one extra week. WHatever you're comfortable with
grizzled parcel
Mostly I just can't solo most of the mobs there yet without dying/nearly dying, and the groups the swarm through when events happen just kill things before I can get there.
Honestly, I'm more interested in Centaur and Iskarra rep.
atomic sonnet
Fair, so am I, but I've gotten max rep on both dragons and i'm not just barely 20 on centaur, and 18 on tuskarr
I think i've been forgetting to do the fishing weekly stuff but still. You'll get max faster than either of those two
atomic sonnet
Ah, fair
grizzled parcel
And i'm only at 7 on Centaur becuase I managed to hit a few hunts at random. I need to make a timer for the Tuskarr feast event (and figure out how to make sure I get all the tasks).
And I need to actually do some Expedition quests, I'm woefully behind on those.
I'm sorry what
https://www.wowhead.com/news/dont-forget-to-enchant-your-profession-tool-in-dragonflight-330810
grizzled parcel
I have never used WAs, it just ... it's the Linux of mods, you have to do so much configuring to get something useful.
atomic sonnet
I get that, though I think these days they add a lot of stuff in "custom options" where you can enable/disable stuff
tulip badger
how do you play without weakauras
you need them to do this.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDLGk-24FpY
atomic sonnet
For example, that's all the stuff you can track with it
tulip badger
Ayaya
atomic sonnet
Artiks: the most important WA
grizzled parcel
I'm not weeb enough to know what that's referencing
atomic sonnet
grizzled parcel
Now I'm more confused.
atomic sonnet
There's an affix in M+ that basically spawns a shade when you kill any mob. These shades are monstrously strong in melee and can 2-3 shot you, but move very slow
This WA does that AYAYA AYAYA sound when one of those mobs is targetting you, as it's fixed on one single person until it dies
grizzled parcel
Ah
atomic sonnet
(it'll also die on its own but that can take like 30 sec?)
tulip badger
dont you need to manually add that soundfile to your gamefiles for a WA like that to work
atomic sonnet
I think so?
I've seen a streamer also have a duck icon and noise appear either when quaking starts to happen, or when they get hit by it
tulip badger
Twilight Sparkle says "tough love baby" when my divine purpose procs
been like that for uh 8 years
And Fluttershy says "here comes the choo choo train chugga chugga whoo whoo" when something else happens dont remember what ๐ค
atomic sonnet
tulip badger
might be when I use aura mastery
elfin steeple
What, not city escape?
I've listened to that one a couple times in the beginning of DF lol
atomic sonnet
https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-confirms-timewalking-scaling-gear-more-than-intended-330824 woops
elfin steeple
That headline is kind of silly. I thought it meant that the gear was scaling higher, but no they just mean it's been scaling differently and lower than intended.
Also, 386 gear from the weekly chest after getting a 402 one last week. Meh, maybe I've just been spoiled but unless they upgrade that I'm not too keen on doing it.
atomic sonnet
Yeah i might just do it on my evoker but my main's not interested :X
elfin steeple
but I do need the timereaver mount or whatever its called so ugh! Lol.
elfin steeple
pain
atomic sonnet
I did get the magma mammoth earlier though 
elfin steeple
ooooo
I think I might be a week out, I'll see after today. I think the rings and stuff are cheap now so I might just dip into those if I'm close enough.
atomic sonnet
It loses much of its ugliness when it's not goblin green
elfin steeple
That looks good actually, hmm..
Used my +14 CoS key and nailed it! Feeling good. Was nervous about the last boss.
It gave me a +15 azure... lol
atomic sonnet
Wowhead taking the piss posting it over multiple posts rather than just one but... seems like several instances got a bunch of nerfs, azure included
atomic sonnet
Mainly the... second boss? The one that does those orbs around herself
But yeah, Azure, Nokhud, Academy, Pools, and Temple seem to have gotten tweaks and nerfs
elfin steeple
Oof, they hardly did anything to temple at all and Ruby they only tweaked the first boss it looks like. Trash on second level and last boss are still a nightmare.
atomic sonnet
True nuff but still better than nothing
elfin steeple
yeppers
I'll try for getting +13 +14 in all 8 by the end this week.
Maybe a +15 with the azure key I have but we'll see
looks like having a +14 in everything gets the rating up to 2k which is probably my overall goal. Would be happy enough with it.
atomic sonnet
In both tyrannical and fortified +14, probably
elfin steeple
I think you only need +14 in either or because I didn't touch tyrannical at all before and I'm at 1500 with a bunch of 11's and 12's
atomic sonnet
Not too sure about that. You'll be getting fewer rating points as you go up, doing both guarantees you get more for the same "level"
elfin steeple
Oh, interesting.
atomic sonnet
For shadowlands but I believe it works the same, just might be different amount of points for say a 14 key now than it was in SL
eyes time, ka-zzzzs
elfin steeple
Well, that's good to know. Thank you.
elfin steeple
Don't forget to snag DMF buff this week for world quests! 
atomic sonnet
Or any turn ins, really
https://www.wowhead.com/news/dragonflight-hotfixes-for-january-3-2023-mythic-tuning-profession-quest-drop-330829 ah, a more general list
"Nokhud Lancemasters are less talkative when firing their ballistae."
elfin steeple
Huge! Grats! How many pieces does that put you up to?
tulip badger
I got 4 set last week this was just an ilvl upgrade from 402 to 421
elfin steeple
Ah, I see. Well, +19 is pretty damn huge still!
I wonder if I can increase my odds of getting tier pieces by doing RF to get it from the vault and just upgrading those pieces up to 405 with valor... Probably would cost a metric ton of valor though if I can...
atomic sonnet
atomic sonnet
Love how mount collectors see two or three people with the same mount and then we all start lining up with it if we have it
Aaaand then one guy just flew in and said "man fuck y'all"
elfin steeple
Nice! I can sense a raz mount drop next week for you~
Also, ugh. Wish the world bosses would spawn in like 3 minute intervals instead of like 15-20m or whatever it is.
I'm just gonna see if the skin can drop in LFR or not before I subject myself to trying to pug a normal or... heavens' forbid... joining a g u i l d.
I'd probably be okay with it if I found a one night a week one.
atomic sonnet
It's still possible to find decent premade group finder raids
elfin steeple
idk if I can get in one since I haven't done one yet
would be really hard probably
elfin steeple
Okie, I'll give it a shot sometime this week then.
elfin steeple
1700 woo
grizzled parcel
Love how mount collectors see two or three people with the same mount and then w...
I wound up reporting a guy last week for botting to grief-camp Huolon & never looting the corpse. He would instantly kill the mob on spawn, and hadn't moved from the same spot for two days. After he did it to a group of us, we all reported him. He was gone the next day, so I'm assuming it worked.
I still didn't get the drop when I killed Huolon. 
atomic sonnet
God damnit, game
Get 366 mail ohnahran falconer's coif from something. Then a 372 eranog's helm from lfr. Then get a 379 same coif from somewhere else. Then do the valdrakken rep weekly, get a 382 coif
Turn in the timewalking weekly..
389 eranog's
OTHER SLOTS EXIST
grizzled parcel
That's the kind of luck that makes me wish Disenchanting was a secondary profession.
atomic sonnet
Politics, but still amusing:
elfin steeple
That meme is never going to die, I swear. rofl
It'll be passed down from generation to generation
Academy +14 timed and in the bag! Up to 1813. Have to do... ruby and... azure... I've completed an azure 14 & 15 but we couldn't time it because the last boss has been a struggle.
Doesn't help that my range isn't the best and I have a hard time keeping up with people who need a dispel to get away from orbs on top of everything else going on.
Oh well, feels nice to have purple in my rating!
atomic sonnet
Eeysh. Recent California law forces companies to publish their pays for job roles. Some companies are skirting around that by posting pay ranges, but that still helps. Apparently, these three are all for Test Lead roles
grizzled parcel
Oof, Blizzard low-ballin'
atomic sonnet
Top end not even reaching the low end of Riot 
elfin steeple
That's pretty mediocre pay for that position; especially in CA.
It's alright though, Bobby got his 5th super yacht that has a life boat yacht. Money well allocated...
queen wasp
It has always been known that Blizzard pays less because you get paid in exposure.
elfin steeple
It's sad but true.
RLP attempt #2 woo. Here's to hoping people don't keep getting hit by the meteor on the 2nd boss 3 times in a row!
atomic sonnet
woo, 20 on all renowns on my main. Time for turbo rep on alts
elfin steeple
Nice!
atomic sonnet
A simple 100ish or so rep quest gave me 314 instead (with darkmoon buff)
elfin steeple
Imagine doing those valk quests that give 2500 rep without bonuses
elfin steeple
I wanted a trinket from the weekly, and sure enough... But it's a dps one and I'm a healer... ffs.
great for doing world quests I guess?
Also, looks like it scaled up? I thought 386 or 389 was what the box could give but interesting.
So, probably worth doing on your main Tchernobog if you haven't.
atomic sonnet
It was super fast on my evoker so i might
elfin steeple
I was surprised. I dps'd like 95% of the time and threw maybe 1 or 2 hots to heal. Was able to finish in less than an hour.
elfin steeple
Okay, +13 ruby timed. All that's left is azure.
elfin steeple
+16 shadow timed! Hope the 415 piece is better than whatever else the other slots will be.
atomic sonnet
Righto, timewalking done, let's see the gacha
Didn't scale up, and a slot i already had good in
elfin steeple
Was it another helm?
elfin steeple
finally done with azure for now, even got a +2 on a 13 with a good group. Was going crazy failing like 7 of them. I'm at 1993. Need to do like a jade at like 13 or 14 I think
grizzled parcel
I forgot how painful the Shaohao rep grind is, even with DMF buffs.
elfin steeple
oh yeah it's awful
hated doing it in mop
but the golden serpent was worth it
I use it all the time, well outside of DF that is
dangit, now I'm tempted to do 9 more +16 shadows so I can make a 418 crafted piece... curse this grind.
elfin steeple
yay 2k milestone woo!
Looks like next milestone will need +17 & 18s, oh boy... Probably going to need to use comms for that one.
grizzled parcel
Welp. I made it to 5k out of 21k needed for Shaohao Exalted, and then some other player showed up and started killing the mobs I was farming, so I guess I'm done for today.
atomic sonnet
Frogs? ๐ธ
grizzled parcel
Usually those are getting farmed even more, but I could try them.
atomic sonnet
I seem to recall those were the best, but yeah, it might still be very farmed. Also their poison hurts
grizzled parcel
Oh holy shit, this is going to be fun when greys becoming transmoggable
I also have the shoulders and robe
atomic sonnet
grizzled parcel
Gulp Frogs appear to give 0 rep now.
atomic sonnet
booo
Hm. Isn't it just the tauren-like mobs now, come to think of it? I now vaguely remember something like that
grizzled parcel
Looks like.
atomic sonnet
Isnt there something that all mobs drop that you can turn in for rep though?
grizzled parcel
Apparently doing Timewalking Pandaria dungeons lets you buy a bunch of rep tokens, but...
atomic sonnet
It's the badges vendor, aye
But the vendor is only up during pandaria timewalking
grizzled parcel
Mhm
Looks clear, so grinding again.
Plus side, each round trip through the temple gets me a little over 1000 rep
grizzled parcel
Welp, I'm at 12k out of 21k, and someone else is here killing stuff (again), so I'm going to call it done for tonight. Maybe the morning will be better.
atomic sonnet
grizzled parcel
I know it's over-exaggerated for the stream, but that's still great.
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
Sometimes the over-exaggerated streamers miss the mark but this guy nailed it. Absolutely hilarious.
atomic sonnet
Havoc remains perfect, it seems 
atomic sonnet
No no no
elfin steeple
Evoker's Spellweaverโs Dominance increases critical strike damage to 230% (was 220%). That's actually pretty insane I think.
atomic sonnet
Cat is for fite
atomic sonnet
Kitty goes *swipe*
grizzled parcel
God I haven't seen that in forever
elfin steeple
I like to use the Wayback Machine from time to time to see the old blizz forums. Some things never change.
elfin steeple
You've got this!
elfin steeple
I hate the timer there and for azure
did you do the beer strats for the 4 mobs at the end?
tulip badger
no we forgot to pick it up ๐
elfin steeple
welp doesn't matter, you still made it in the end. That's what counts!
atomic sonnet
Beer strats? I know it makes them fight in the halls but the last 4 too?
tulip badger
normally you only fight one at a time but if you pull a beer on one you can aggro 2 for cleave dps
throw*
elfin steeple
tank has to go around to them too or something, idk it's weird. Haven't tried it yet.
when you throw a beer at them, they're orange and can attack you but you can't attack them and something causes them to become hostile after that.
For M+ I'd like to see them clean up some of the old Vanilla, TBC and WOTLK dungeons to make them have more mechanics and such, at least to a level where they can throw them into the M+ pool. I don't mind the stuff from MOP onwards but I'd be nice to see something like Maraudon thrown into the mix.
tulip badger
i believe one of the lead designers said it would be really hard to do anything before mop
since mop and onwards already had the tech with challenge mode
atomic sonnet
imagine maraudon
elfin steeple
That's what I'm sayin'.
elfin steeple
Old Sunken Temple so we can all get lost and lose the key because of that.
I'm glad they made a new Uldaman. I did enjoy it and I can't wait to do M+ of it.
Classic will always have some of the best dungeon aesthetics, maybe not the best dungeons in terms of loot and replayability, but they were definitely neat to look at and explore.
Less linear
atomic sonnet
And don't forget the obvious megadungeon candidate. Blackrock Depths
And heck, blackrock spire got split into two as well, didn't it? They'd make interesting M+ with some major tweaks
elfin steeple
absolutely
I'd love to do lava run strats in an M+ to get to the last boss faster
lmao
That's one thing about some of the older dungeons is being able to do absolutely bonker off the wall strats to skip a load of trash and bosses
atomic sonnet
I mean if we look at it, vanilla was insane on dungeons
elfin steeple
I'd have been shocked had they not remade any of them. Most of them are great on there own.
...except gnomergan as a horde, lord no.
So far...
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
TBC is interesting, I actually don't care for most of the dungeons; heck I even tried them several times during classic TBC. For some reason they didn't click for me like classic and wrath dungeons did. Some were pretty neat, but idk they just kind of... blended together for me?
atomic sonnet
Honestly the most memorable ones are in pink ๐
elfin steeple
Ohhh yes!
I love botanica
That's one I'd like to come back
gorgeous dungeon
no old hillsbrad of black morASS please...
lmfao
atomic sonnet
The four auchindoun ones can rot for all I care, and the orc citadel ones are just pain. Magister's terrace is okay, the timewalking ones are cool but old hillsbrad is agony
Eh black morass is fun enough, you can't get lost at least
elfin steeple
It's so ugly to look at though and it was a pug killer in heroic early on
there we go, there's the list
atomic sonnet
Fuck pit of saron
atomic sonnet
Pit, trial and oculus at the bottom, i'm fine with everything else
elfin steeple
I mean, it's fine... just I didn't like the wave mechanic to wait for
VH would have been mid or higher for me if you didn't have to wait like 2 minutes between each wave... so annoying
Funny enough, I grew to like Oculus. I thought flying around on the drakes and going vertical around the circular platforms was interesting.
I didn't like it at first because I was confused by it
atomic sonnet
Oh I like that well enough but I can see that being a massive pain to get to work
elfin steeple
yeah it wasn't fun to pug
elfin steeple
true that
I was one of the worst healers, I think the only addon I had was like decursive and I tried to apply to a hardcore raiding guild with that in my application shudders
I wish I could find that old application, it'd probably be hilarious to look at.
something like: "loot good, I heal yes"
Pit of Saron... Hmm, I liked it because of I like snow (I know very dumb reason to like something), otherwise I didn't care much for it. Very strange dungeon. Halls of Reflection was awesome the first time and annoying the 50th time.
Culling was probably my favorite since I could play as a human shaman. Lol.
still salty they don't exist, literally makes no sense, same with no human druids?? Dumb.
atomic sonnet
You're technically wrong~
elfin steeple
Medivh
atomic sonnet
Kul'tirans ๐
atomic sonnet
atomic sonnet
grizzled parcel
It's done
atomic sonnet
tulip badger
grats!
grizzled parcel
I've still got shit tons of coins.
Bought the mount, pet, toy, and a couple weapons for transmog.
tulip badger
this is my which dungeons are the most fun tier list.
atomic sonnet
tulip badger
this doesnt matter at all...
Why would you spread your talents across the trees
jack of all trades is such a bad idea with this system
grizzled parcel
Possibly to help out the people who mistakenly thought they could spread out without being completely locked out of leveling at the beginning.
Sometimes you can't get recipes with skillups without picking up a new spec
tulip badger
im 66/100 inscription still but also inscription is absolutely useless
grizzled parcel
Missives?
tulip badger
Developer 1: Guys inscription does absolutely nothing and the game launches in 2 days..
Developer 2: Ok what if they gave the OTHER professions an item they could use once a week that gave them 1 knowledge.
Developer 1: Holy shit
At least my other profession is the best one ๐ฅน
queen wasp
They could expand the Glyph system again for customization but someone at Blizzard really hates it when people aren't the same.
elfin steeple
this is my which dungeons are the most fun tier list.
I must be crazy because for me Azure is a B. Only other thing that'd be different is I'd put nok at a D.
elfin steeple
*It's done*
Nice! Have fun with one of the coolest looking mounts in the game.
tulip badger
azure has way too much trash
elfin steeple
Hmm, yeah. Tyrannical week I don't notice it as much but I can see myself knocking it down to C during fortified.
Last couple bosses are annoying too but other than that.
I just really like how it looks. Would be an S if they made some adjustments to the trash and last 2 bosses.
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
Wait, so are those to be collected through the trading post or are those just extra transmog that can be earned through other means?
tulip badger
i assume trading post
atomic sonnet
I think so too
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
been pugging normal vault. Been liking it so far. Raiding is so different for my spec that it feels completely fresh.
atomic sonnet
For a moment I thought you said LFR and was about to ask about the absolute shitshow that is LFR Council
elfin steeple
we got to 4/8 and people all just dipped at once lol. Oh well, 2 chances for a decent trinket from the vault! I'll take it. Tier too I guess.
Mana seems to be a big issue for my spec, so it's gonna take me a while to learn properly it seems.
elfin steeple
reminds me of this:
I want it.
I saw another evoker with it while we did the raid
Oh shoot, is it damage only?
grizzled parcel
Drops for both
tulip badger
wowow.
elfin steeple
Timed a 16 ruby!
6 more concentrated primals to go for a 418. I'll try to get that done by tomorrow if I can. I think next week's affixes might be bad? Fort/spite/grievous. I don't remember if spite is bad or not.
atomic sonnet
Spiteful is the ghosts that chase you
elfin steeple
Oh, well it's a good thing I'm blind and will probably miss them 50% of the time if they're anything like the shadow priest's apparitions.
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
I didn't think about it but oof, rip melee.
Also, having a shadow priest in the group would be so troll xd
Got it, so I want to have root from my talents this next week.
atomic sonnet
Yeah it's absolute ass as melee.. which will be fun in this seemingly melee heavy meta
elfin steeple
Monk and DH should still be fine I'd think. They can easily get away and a monk could setup that circle thing that knocks mobs back.
but idk, I'd limit to maybe 1 melee dps this coming week if I invited.
atomic sonnet
And now to spend the next hour trying to get invited to a 15
elfin steeple
Hey, if you need help I can heal. Maybe that'll help get ya invited faster.
I know that struggle
yesterday I spent an hour getting into any 16
at 2k rating too, everyone wants 2200+ it seems
atomic sonnet
I'm at 1665 so that's probably not helping but still
elfin steeple
It depends. Shadow would probably be a pretty quick invite, everything else may or may not be a struggle to get into but I understand what you mean.
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
lol
I'll have a 16 key on Tuesday for next week. I'll post what it is then and if you need an easy invite keep me in mind. Now, if it's a Ruby... I'll probably need to get into another group to reset the key first. Hate ruby on fortified.
And no, I don't care about timing with my keys. Finishing is good enough! 415 vault is spicy.
atomic sonnet
Same, I care more about finishing. I got into a 14 sbg at least
elfin steeple
There ya go. Now, if that void trinket drops let me know. Been trying to get it forever from there or the vault.
atomic sonnet
Ah, a toxic tank
atomic sonnet
We're doing okay but he's being a shitheel
elfin steeple
That's hilarious. I've only had one sort of toxic tank and he was a dk. The really nice ones have been druids and paladins.
atomic sonnet
Ooh
elfin steeple
Very nice. I've yet to have one piece give me a bonus socket, leech, speed or anything rofl
I sort of miss the Legion days where you could have a piece be titanforged or whatever it was called, give you socket and have speed or something else on top of that. I understand why people didn't like it but dang did it feel good to have one drop for you.
atomic sonnet
I've had a few but that's the only one i'm currently wearing
Oh it felt good but you felt the need of an endless grind in the hopes that you'd get one too
elfin steeple
That's very true and that was the problem. I had an unhealthy addiction chasing after legendaries because of that.
But when they dropped they dropped hard
Unless they were one of those general legendaries that nobody wanted. Those ones hurt.
https://www.mmo-champion.com/content/1669-Legion-Legendary-Items dang, just look at this list of them. Man was it awful farming for specific ones...
atomic sonnet
Now in a 13 temple
elfin steeple
If you play a class that can decurse and can decurse for the mobs after the 2nd boss in there; I guarantee you'll make a new friend with the healer and they'll love you forever. Lmao.
atomic sonnet
So if I open chrome on my android tablet, it'll pull up some news, local or stuff i've looked up before and aggregates some interests. Tends to be accurate (but not always).
It has decided that I need to see WOW forum posts, and always of people complaining about DF 
elfin steeple
It's trying to show you the recent forum post by the dk tank who decided he's quitting DF because he couldn't get a 3 chest in his +14 shadow run.
atomic sonnet
atomic sonnet
Nice, got a 9 nokhud on evoker. Prob just gonna do that for the vault. Just need one more on my DH to get 8
Oh or not, i got it already?
Hm, lowest is still a 10. Gotta do an 11 and pump it up
elfin steeple
do it
atomic sonnet
Tomorrow!
elfin steeple
azure 16 is pain
atomic sonnet
Also, nice. Had enough primal focus to make an infusion for a 405 item. Simming suggested a ring rather than anything else was my best bet, so....
RINGZILLA
elfin steeple
ooo
atomic sonnet
(haven't done a single 15 yet so i ain't getting the 418 one anytime soon)
elfin steeple
I think you need to do 16's to get the ones that let you do that
elfin steeple
What does OCE mean btw for mythic +. I keep seeing it and I have no idea.
elfin steeple
wow court is like significantly easier now. The last boss is super easy to heal now even at +16
gale doesn't go crazy and the lines can be seen easy
atomic sonnet
Oceanic players aka higher ping, probably
tulip badger
dont they have their own servers
grizzled parcel
Catch-22: Their own servers are under-populated, so they join more populous areas, which keeps their own local servers under-populated
atomic sonnet
Pretty much!
tulip badger
elfin steeple
After being taken back up the 2nd time I would have just gotten up to get a snack.
atomic sonnet
https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-on-crafting-order-system-retrospective-and-improvements-330901
grizzled parcel
Glad they're at least working on ideas to fix those issues.
elfin steeple
If they could make primal chaos BOA that'd be amazing.
elfin steeple
yay! Gonna save this until I see what the vault holds.
atomic sonnet
Oof. Issues with a +14 vault. Finished it but about 20 minutes over
But no more 10 on the last dungeon reward!
elfin steeple
Let me guess: first boss one wipe because of a missed tree being dispelled by the aoe ability and destroying the group. Second boss an almost wipe because someone got hit by the giant arcane bomb she casts and died and for the last boss there were two wipes because either one splinter wasn't taken care of quick enough or someone got hit by a stray orb.
atomic sonnet
more than that wipe wise. A few from cleaves/various stuff on the second boss, and the last boss yes, orbs/a shard
elfin steeple
omg I forgot about the cleaves
the one shot cleave because melee walked slightly too close to the front
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
pugging azure during tyrannical is very painful
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
academy is kind of bad too right now because of the bird boss being bugged with the 2nd toss and not resetting stacks sometimes
On reset, I'd probably stay away from ruby and jade. The jade trash mobs on fortified and spiteful oof
at least for pugs
those tight hallways suck
Azure will still be hard to time with pugs but it will be more likely to finish at least
elfin steeple
timed a pug 16 azure with 10 seconds to spare
can't believe it
played out of my mind
should hit 2200 tomorrow if I do some 16 forts
atomic sonnet
This is the kind of post my tablet sends me
https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/we-won-a-100euro-bnet-balance-so-we-tried-dragonlands/421081
grizzled parcel
Man, that's a very "nothing will ever make me happy" post.
atomic sonnet
That's essentially what my tablet thinks I need to see
And always the same, "bfa/SL were better"
grizzled parcel
Actually, even this post says BFA/SL was awful, so... I don't know what they wanted.
They hated the quests with the "cute dragons" and that there's still no player housing.
atomic sonnet
tulip badger
remember to pray for big icons in your vaults today americans
atomic sonnet
atomic sonnet
Servers are up, starting with the evoker. Just did one M+
A cloak! 10 ilevel upgrade, not as huge as it could be in other slots but i'll take it
two tier options from raid, not bad... gotta sim though to see
The helm, like I thought. THis will be 2 piece
elfin steeple
Ohh, tier with a socket. Nice!
bleh, arena skirmishes weekly
uh, no idea if this is good or bad. Other choice I have is 398 tier shoulders
tulip badger
Pretty sure its giga ass
elfin steeple
wonderful
elfin steeple
yeah
elfin steeple
ok I have 2 trinkets better than it that can be upgraded so tier it is
the other 415 are a belt and a random chest (I have chest tier already)
tulip badger
sounds like belt angle
elfin steeple
over a 2nd tier piece?
atomic sonnet
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot sounds like ya need to sim ๐
elfin steeple
will creation catalyst have upgradable pieces like the M+ ones from the vault?
tulip badger
I never used it in shadowlands but im pretty sure all it does is turn say 415 legs into 415 tier legs
elfin steeple
oh okay, then yeah belt it is
dangit, I picked chest tier over miniature singing stone last week. Thought it was middle of the road.
elfin steeple
And I'm surprised the crafted trinkets as so good. I might have to get one.
tulip badger
hm
you should read their tooltips
it needs a lot of sockets to work well I think
and they require a spark
elfin steeple
ugh
thanks game, just what I wanted to start this week.
gonna replace that real quick
Now the question is if I want to upgrade to a 418 one hand or 418 lariat to start
lariat is less likely to be replaced if anything
Can't wait to heal for the affixes this week and be blamed by melee for not using my rescue ability to get them away from the apparitions. I'm partially joking but I'm half expecting at least one complaint.
atomic sonnet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIauXFVABIQ as a reminder of the source
elfin steeple
A classic.
elfin steeple
Hmm, which would be less painful to start this week... shadow or court. Imma risk court.
elfin steeple
ok 17 court was not too bad. I forgot to reset my key though lol
tulip badger
Thats all of em ๐
elfin steeple
I joined the orange club!
175 more valor and I can hit 400 ilvl too
I keep somehow forgetting to change out my key at the end of every M+... Guess I'm really feeling azure this week.
elfin steeple
Thats all of em ๐
How was ruby this week?
I'm so glad I can skip out the wrathion farm from now on. Saves a couple hours. Was fun for the first couple weeks then it became just eh.
tulip badger
Last boss is kinda horrible but thats it
but "this week" for me is still tyrannical
elfin steeple
Oh right. And yes, last boss is no fun... My range is bad, so for a boss like that I have a heart attack every time someone just slightly goes out of range.
atomic sonnet
Isn't it right though? You harpoon a fish to get the meat, but if someone else attacks it then you get no credit
elfin steeple
I've gotten credit for harpooning and someone killing it in the past I'm pretty sure
I'd understand if that's actually the case though.
hmm, not sure now. I'll test it next time I see the quest. Maybe he was just harpooning for something else.
atomic sonnet
There's two, the young ones for the WQ (don't get credit, or rather the meat, from killing). THen there's the massive ones, they might be different
elfin steeple
That could be it. I was in the wrong then. Poor guy.
The worst wq to have that happen is the one where you have to tame 6 spirits and not kill them
and people keep coming in to kill them lol
atomic sonnet
I tell the people of my faction and they thank me
But for opposite faction I go /stop /no /slap
The last is if they keep doing it ๐
elfin steeple
Did they fix not being able to see the opposite faction's text? Because I swear at the start of DF I saw ally saying stuff and it wasn't in common
atomic sonnet
Nah that's still there. But DH and I think locks can use "demonic" language to chat with each other
elfin steeple
Ohh, I see.
I saw some videos of people going around doing world pvp and the opposite faction saying "stop" or complaining about being attacked with WM on.
Was pretty funny.
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
Is it strange I've yet to feel the urge to level an alt in an alt friendly expansion? Every other expansion I would have at this point, I think...
Almost able to do all four! Next week I'll have it done and I should be max rank with artisan so I can get a good amount of inspiration from that specialization too.
atomic sonnet
My main's obviously 70 and so is my evoker
grizzled parcel
I plan to work on getting Renown 10 on at least 2 or 3 of the factions, then switch over to leveling an alt for a bit for variety.
But that requires actually having days where I can play.
atomic sonnet
elfin steeple
I know that's supposed to be a shotgun but it just looks like she's glued a couple googly eyes on her leg.
elfin steeple
There's a chance extra stats and meta sockets from unwanted pieces will carry into the catalyst for tier pieces. So keep that in mind before tossing some lower ilvl stuff with those away. Sure it'd cost a lot of valor to upgrade the piece but sockets!
I guess that'd be only for the helm for sockets though.
elfin steeple
The red looks really good on that drake. I also like its bronze undertones and eyes.
atomic sonnet
'e's blind!
To be fair though, all colors look good on that drake
Pardon the use of a meme, but I saw this a bit after the release and it's 100% accurate
elfin steeple
Ya know, I wonder if every raid tier is going to have a one legendary mount skin for one of the four types.
This is the only skin that contests with the highlander, for now. Until the highlander gets its own very unique skin at some point in the future.
elfin steeple
Shadow is insanely easy this week if people can interrupt stuff. If I manage to snag a 16 shadow I'll post it if anyone wants to grab it sometime. Easy 415 vault
tulip badger
Highland drake already has the gladiator special skin
elfin steeple
Oh, right.
grizzled parcel
Shoot the things stopping you from playing
The only joke I want to make is too morbid for Manechat. 
atomic sonnet
tulip badger
boots was my worst slot (395) so these will be great
atomic sonnet
https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-visuals-in-mythic-halls-of-valor-sanctify-on-hyrja-330924 not that i found them hard to dodge (best to get out of melee) but hey, neat
elfin steeple
Not a bad vault. Shame you didn't need any of those tier pieces. +26 ilvl boots is huge though, so nice!
elfin steeple
https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-visuals-in-mythic-halls-of-valor-sanctify-on-hy...
Lol, I saw it. Change didn't matter. Melee still stand near the boss and get hit all the time.
atomic sonnet
I learned in legion that that's the deadliest thing in the entire dungeon
atomic sonnet
Ooh. Looks good in black
atomic sonnet
Thought for a brief second it was the rasz skin
atomic sonnet
God damn, nerf rogues
elfin steeple
Thought for a brief second it was the rasz skin
That's the Raszageth at home variety.
Value menu.
atomic sonnet
Not sure why Ambush is getting two entries on that.
Some tier item maybe?
elfin steeple
ah yes
grizzled parcel
Possibly. Or some ability allowing them to use it outside of Stealth is counting as a separate ID.
elfin steeple
Dispatch increases the damage of your next Sinister Strike or Ambush by 20% per combo point spent.
That makes more sense actually
They can have, uh... What's it called? Shadow dance? As outlaw? Seems kind of broken if so.
grizzled parcel
That might be it.
Eh, it's on a long cooldown IIRC so I doubt it's too broken.
Then again, I barely do Heroic dungeons, so...
elfin steeple
We'll get you to m0 yet, one day.
grizzled parcel
I think I need better gear first.
atomic sonnet
Ah he said there's an ability that procs ambush automatically out of stealth
What ilevel are you?
grizzled parcel
Uh... I don't know, I haven't been able to play in about a week
elfin steeple
damn
Ya know, just uh sleep only 4 hours a night, then you'll get some time easily! Some people can do it, supposedly... I'm definitely not one of them, but ya never know!
grizzled parcel
I work 12-hour shifts three days a week, and I have to get up at 5 am to make it to work. Between sleep apnea, insomnia, and cats, I'm lucky if I get 5 or 6 hours those nights.
elfin steeple
Having trouble sleeping and waking up several times randomly in the middle of the night is no fun. My cat is usually pretty good (I have an automatic food dispenser) but if he starts meowing he is loud as fuck.
grizzled parcel
Unfortunately we can't do the automatic feeder. Harley is food-obsessed, and will bully Maui off her dish to eat that food.
elfin steeple
I can only do it because I have one cat, I think? (not as in I think I have one cat, but as in that it works with one cat) I had to work on how much it dispenses for over a year to get the levels where he wasn't overeating and he wasn't crying every few hours for food. It was a nightmare to work with considering how much he loves food. Even with the levels set right he immediately races to the bowl as soon as it starts going off and sometimes he'll cry a couple minutes before it goes off.
atomic sonnet
Unfortunately we can't do the automatic feeder. Harley is food-obsessed, and wil...
Reminds me of Lulu from that korean channel. If food exists, doesn't matter in whose bowl it is
elfin steeple
I've seen those collars that allow only one cat to get into a certain area to eat and that seems to work but I think it would be a little costly...
grizzled parcel
I've seen those collars that allow only one cat to get into a certain area to ea...
They're a touch pricey, and we can't really make a Maui-only space at the moment.
grizzled parcel
Reminds me of Lulu from that korean channel. If food exists, doesn't matter in w...
elfin steeple
That's 100% my cat. LOL
Have you tried a spray bottle with a little water to see if you can discourage the cat from eating from the wrong bowl?
It wouldn't work for my cat probably since he loves water, he's a little weird-o. Lol.
Btw we're talking about feral druids, obviously. So all this is perfectly fine and relevant for this channel. shifts eyes looking for other mods Yep, perfectly normal feral druid stuff.
elfin steeple
Those cats are relentless. Only problem with this whole thing is when they're not filming and they're trying to enjoy ice cream while watching something their cats are going to be all over them lol.
First real raid tonight, can't wait to fight razzberry.
grizzled parcel
Have you tried a spray bottle with a little water to see if you can discourage t...
Spraying cats is generally a bad idea. All it teaches them is to be scared of the water bottle/you. And as soon as the bottle/you are gone, they go right back to whatever it was they were doing.
elfin steeple
We're gonna have to find you a cat whisperer then.