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quiet swift
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Looking at wiki, 9 awards is the most wins ever in game awards history?

teal sonnet
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and most nominated

river veldt
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why the fuck did Sega say to watch Game Awards lmao

fresh bane
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Didn't you see that one remix of the green hill zone theme they put on spotify?

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that was an important announcement

quiet swift
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Ah, BG3 was 6 awards

little badger
mossy flume
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Also the most nominations

teal sonnet
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they had in the ready

quiet swift
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Ah, previous highest was Last Of Us at 7

quiet swift
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oh that's the content trailer rdsnrk

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I thought it was a thank you video

toxic seal
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The bingo board I was going along with watching the Hololive co-strem

teal sonnet
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YO NEW SONG

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whole new album

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and is a BANGER

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they going full eletronic on this one

bitter stream
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oh, that's true isn't it. T_T. Maybe I'll try the fantasy total war haha

random steppe
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It did look incredible though

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Past my wildest expectations, can't wait

bitter stream
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yeah, the footage looked really good, I hope it isn't too hard to run

weak river
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Moment of silence for the Half Life community, which expended all of their hopium reserves tonight. I'm sure they'll have their stocks replenished by next year's Game Awards, though.

'Twas quite the sight to see E33 sweep so completely. I'm not particularly familiar with the game, but the opinions I've heard have been exceedingly positive. I'm happy for Sandfall; it must be rather surreal to see your debut game be received so well.

mossy flume
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They broke so many records with E33

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Even the literal President of France called them out

little badger
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E34 when

toxic seal
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E32 as it were

random steppe
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(this is an advanced joke)

little badger
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I’m sure we will see pod racing in the summer

unreal idol
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My guy that is a fucking PVC pipe

fickle garnet
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Half-Life 3 was the friends we made along the way

sacred grove
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That guy went through like six different instruments

little badger
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@green fulcrum that’s why SEGA was there. To show total war

random steppe
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Oh right, that is a Sega property

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Almost forgot

little badger
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I was hopeful for a new sonic game. But maybe next time

weak river
toxic seal
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The end of the Hololive stream lol

random steppe
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I mean, it did look real good

little badger
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People aren’t happy in sega’s replies rdsnrk

green fulcrum
little badger
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Even the man himself Takashi Iizuka was there

mossy flume
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I also appreciated drum guy

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And glass trumpet guy

quiet swift
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So how did y'all like the Clair Obscur Awards 2025

mossy flume
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Rad

little badger
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oui

grave tide
quiet swift
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As a 🇫🇷 , my pride cannot be contained

little badger
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Wait you are French?

mossy flume
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You’re French??

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But yes, E33’s awards were well deserved virtuslucarionod

grave tide
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I still do not like that Clair Obscur won RPG award, but other side is KCD2 and Vavra. I am waiting Vavra's post about Clair Obscur

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How their game isn't RPG at all

mossy flume
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What?

grave tide
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And how they did nothing to deserve this award

mossy flume
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It is an RPG

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Just, it literally is

grave tide
# mossy flume What?

Vavra did recently a post about Obsidian and TOW2 how Obsidian did 0 progress in 15 yaers

mossy flume
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Who?

quiet swift
grave tide
quiet swift
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Jennifer English's got a mad resume. Elden Ring, Baldur's Gate 3, E33. All GOTYs rdwut

icy crescent
quiet swift
glad girder
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No new fallout or elder scrolls is honestly making me scream

slim thorn
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you can always play more Starfield

glad girder
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I remember when Skyrim on switch 2 was a meme, Skyrim on PS5. Every single fucking release since the original release, VR, SE, it’s ridiculous

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I’m not even a committed player and I have two different Skyrims and might get a third

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But that’s why it happens

slim thorn
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I don't think I have any Skyrims

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though with how many there are it wouldn't surprise me if it snuck into a bundle somewhere

glad girder
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It’s been released 15 times and is available on 9 different platforms

green fulcrum
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Bethesda saw how poorly Starfield did and so went back to Ol' Reliable, lol

slim thorn
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I am curious how they'll address that, despite not playing any of their games

mossy flume
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Somehow, the Switch 2 version they just dropped reportedly doesn’t run very well

rugged flax
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In other game news, look what showed up in the mail today.
Bless you, CAH team.
I love your shenanigans.

light gate
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I ran out of "you fell for it award" stickers to give towards the hopium folks, so many expected HL3 despite obvious info saying the opposite in TGA.

glad girder
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There’s a chance I’ll be retired by the time the next fallout game comes out

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The half life subreddit has a group trying to turn it into a muppet subreddit now

slim thorn
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now I'm imagining Bethesda letting Larian make a Fallout game like that one time they let Obsidian make one

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that'd be a galaxy brain business move

glad girder
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Fallout CRPG

bitter stream
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you mean, Fallout 1?

glad girder
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Yes, but new

slim thorn
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everything new is old again, or something

bitter stream
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fair enough

mossy flume
green fulcrum
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Because Valve's been hinting at something, and a well-known and trustworthy leaker and industry reporter has said that something Half-Life related is in the works.

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Personally I was hoping for it, but knew it realistically wasn't coming this year.

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There's always next year.

green fulcrum
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Larian would not be so cowardly, lol

mossy flume
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Well, I’m glad that I can still feel so excited about something that I start literally screaming. The KotOR sequel announcement caught me absolutely by surprise

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Haven’t been that hyped about something since Metroid Dread was announced

quiet swift
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That was me last year with Okami dracthyr_love_animated

mossy flume
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Peach Hack was just arriving home late when that happened and she thought I was mortally wounded or something cadancewheeze

green fulcrum
river veldt
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im kind of obsessed with the vibes of this Divinity trailer

mossy flume
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It is very very good

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Man, some of my other chats are just full of people who apparently have literally never heard of E33 and I'm just like... how.

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One of them even thought it was some AAA game and thus they didn't care

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"Oh no wonder, I only do indies"

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Bitch, pls

toxic seal
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The Ace Combat subreddit is wild right now lol. Coming up to TGA are meme posts about the hopium for a new AC and then the flood of "Oh shit our hope worked" posts rdwut

mossy flume
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Ace Combat was a surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one

toxic seal
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I almost forgive Bamco for their Tales bullshittery this year

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A short synopsis of the AC8 plot on the game website

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Also a typo

on this shop

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This is a break from previous AC games where you forge your legend throughout the campaign and become known as a great ace. In this one, because of dwindling hope people think you're that ace from the very beginning and you have to live up to their expectations.

rancid herald
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typo or secret super capitalism

slim thorn
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this will remain the default presumption until people stop unironically doing it rdsnrk

mossy flume
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Yep

bitter stream
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see, i'm not sure whether to rdsnrk or ppinkiepain because I play 76 a little bit.
I would play CS2 if the game wasn't just a lootbox simulator in terms of mtx lol.

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CSS was some of the best fun I had in FPS games, it's a shame CSGO and CS2 went down the TF2 hats route.

slim thorn
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to be clear, that joke is not saying any of those games are bad

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the joke is about people who haven't heard of any other games

bitter stream
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ooooh i see

slim thorn
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the movie equivalent would be "movies are all boring now" and when you ask what they watched this year the answer is just 2 superhero blockbusters and they've never heard of Flow and so on

bitter stream
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right right, barely even looking at that point.

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I know for anime there is more anime being made each season then most people can reasonably watch during the season haha. I'm not a huge movie buff, but I can imagine just branching out of cinema releases to international ones would open up a swathe of cinema that could be great for ones tastes.

slim thorn
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yeah, I've had phases in the past where I'd watch older films or critically acclaimed obscure films or international hits and it was always refreshing

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even when it was "just" another country's low-brow popcorn blockbuster, that's fascinating in its own way

bitter stream
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I remember watching a very small movie about... "Bread of Happiness" at Melbourne international film festival a long time ago. It was really well made, and like, wasn't telling a huge story or needed a huge budget, but used what it had to tell a solid story

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A cafe in the middle of the great outdoors serves delicious bread and coffee to people with pain in their hearts. A humanistic drama that is sure to warm one's heart.

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It's a 2012 film, lots of heart.

tawny jacinth
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Waking up to Act Combat 8 might be the best feeling

rotund forge
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Yall probably saw it live lol

mossy flume
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Still very AvaliSquish AvaliSquish AvaliSquish

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Guess we'll learn more about this game in five years

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Casey Hudson founded this new studio of his in July 2025. They’re starting from scratch on this project and hiring for all positions right now. rdwut

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Also this

bitter stream
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that PvP hero shooter was funny

arctic fern
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Whats the TLDR from the game awards?

bitter stream
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it's like 4 hours of advertising.. hmm, TLDR French game-devs sweep

uneven epoch
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"kinda boring" from what ive seen

slim thorn
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my expectations have been exactly met

mossy flume
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My expectations were exceeded

dense crypt
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My expectations were subverted

arctic fern
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no half life 3?

mossy flume
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Effectively KotOR 3
Megaman is back
New Star Wars podracing game

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No

arctic fern
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dang

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KOTOR is neat, from bioware?

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hard to trust modern ea/bioware

mossy flume
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From Casey Hudson (who did Mass Effect and KotOR I) at his new studio

arctic fern
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ooooooh

mossy flume
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Not BioWare

arctic fern
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ok thats interesting

mossy flume
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Yep yep

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Had me screaming

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Hyped for it, but we probably wont hear from it in like five years

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The studio was just established in July

slim thorn
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I wonder how much longer it will take until every competent game dev "just" founds their own studio to get away from the insanity and actually make a game

arctic fern
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tuesday

mossy flume
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Yeahhhh

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He was briefly there to get Mass Effect 5 going and then bailed immediately

hidden elbow
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Presentation was pretty mid imo , but Ace combat 8 and Mega man 12 are amazing

mossy flume
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Saros (new game from the studio that made Returnal) had a nice gameplay trailer
New Control game
New Divinity game
Two new Tomb Raider games (original remake and new entry)
Diablo 4 expansion
Pragmata release date and gameplay trailer
Gang of Dragon, from the Yakuza franchise
Warlock, a DnD game
Ace Combat 8

rotund forge
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I feel bad for the MK World devs...they were booed and flipped off at the Awards

mossy flume
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Bunch more but that’s what I remember

rotund forge
hidden elbow
arctic fern
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oooh divinity

slim thorn
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new Control game? neat, I figured there's no way they just stop at AW2

rotund forge
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MK World is not my favorite game, and both it and Nintendo have their flaws, but to boo the people that made the thing and then defile their names? Pitiful

mossy flume
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I enjoyed World and I’m glad they explored fresh ideas

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Maybe not my favorite, but still pretty good

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Divinity trailer

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hidden elbow
mossy flume
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I quite like this trailer for a number of reasons pippwiggle

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Excited for this new Divinity

hidden elbow
rotund forge
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Jesus F-ing Christ the hate for MK World/Nintendo is vile. Every video of the stream I see has thousands of comments spitting vile on it.

mossy flume
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Every gaming chat I’m in has been relentlessly shitting on it since it came out

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And Nintendo in general

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It’s asinine

rotund forge
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Nintendo makes poor choices, yes, but at the end of the day they're human

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Like a passionate team made MK World

mossy flume
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And I don’t get it. People’s expectations and demands are wildly unrealistic

rotund forge
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If Kirby had been nominated they'd be drooling over it saying it's the best game ever made, and then they would say "except it was made by Nintendo"

mossy flume
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I’ve had to explain multiple times this year that people who actually give a fuck make these games. Artists, programmers, composers, etc

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But for some reason there’s this new culture of not caring unless you’re a solo indie developer

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Or even outright advocating for piracy of everything except indie games

slim thorn
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while being increasingly reductive about this AAA v indie dichotomy, when the reality is more like a broad spectrum

mossy flume
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“Wow these game companies need unions so that they don’t get laid off!”

Those same people: “fuck everyone who worked on these games I hope they become financially ruined :3”

slim thorn
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Nintendo especially, when they develop games, often has the most indie-like mindset of the enormous studios

mossy flume
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Like, I’m starting to suspect that they think everyone listed in the credits is a billionaire or something

hidden elbow
mossy flume
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Also pretty much none of those people have a say in the business decisions

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Further, the general hot takes about Nintendo are downright ignorant.

hidden elbow
mossy flume
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I’m getting particularly exhausted by the whole “wow, everything is way overpriced!” spiel.
Accounting for inflation, Nintendo games are still much cheaper now than they were in the 90s. facepaw

hidden elbow
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Like recently Nightdive (studio that remasters old fps games) release an updated version of their Blood remaster....and it sells for 30 dollars and instead of blaming atari (who not only owns both ND and Blood ip who is also forbids releasing more than few patches on their games) people started blaming remaster developers for being "greedy" and "selling same thing third time"

slim thorn
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yeah that's been frustrating from the moment the Switch 2 price was announced

mossy flume
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And the Switch 2 isn’t meaningfully more expensive than the Switch 1, after inflation

slim thorn
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I get being disappointed that the price is higher than you might've wanted, but unless you literally believe inflation is a conspiracy by Big Mario, it's obviously unrealistic to expect this to never happen

mossy flume
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Switch 2 is more cost effective than Switch 1, even

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Financial literacy is dead

hidden elbow
mossy flume
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To be fair, Nintendo games rarely go on sale and rarely drop in price

slim thorn
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it's extra weird when the motivation seems to involve some genuine financial hardship, because then... if you have limited money, why are you spending any of it on luxury entertainment devices like gaming consoles

mossy flume
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I’m seriously running out of patience with that crowd at this stage flopCario

rotund forge
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People didn't seem to complain that the PS5 was 500-700...

mossy flume
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Nope

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That’s another one of many reasons why I don’t consider that nonsense a legitimate complaint

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It’s toxic bandwagoning

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(There’s a lot of destructively toxic bandwagoning on the internet these days, moreso than usual IMO sweetiegrump)

slim thorn
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I think it's been rising for a long time, and not just on the internet

mossy flume
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Hm, fair point

slim thorn
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only thing most of us can do is avoid the spaces which encourage it

hidden elbow
mossy flume
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Emulation does require some technical know-how

slim thorn
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mm-hmm, I'm pretty sure I could happily game for the rest of my life without spending a dime by emulating older games no one cares if you pirate

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it does take some setup effort, but at least according to my personal experiences using the things, the emulators have gotten good enough that it's no longer a barrier to entry, just setup effort

hidden elbow
mossy flume
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That’s fair. I was immediately thinking of current gen emulation, but yeah, retro emulation is dead simple

slim thorn
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GBA and DS were also solid for me

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basically everything I tried to play in Retroarch seemed to work after jumping through one or two hoops to plug the illegal thing into the legal thing

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only serious issues I had were when motion controls showed up

mossy flume
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RetroArch is pretty awesome, yeah. I’m not a fan of its front end GUI design, but it is a nicely put together package

hidden elbow
slim thorn
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I'm not gonna complain about a GUI that I can find what I need in

mossy flume
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Heh fair enough

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It’s just a nitpick on my part

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I’m sure it can be customized in some way

slim thorn
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in particular RetroArch's GUI feels to me like a rare bloat-free program: no random ignored inputs, or inconsistent delays, or things popping up in front of my cursor to cause a misclick, or egregiously wasted space, or inexplicably forgetting my settings the next day

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aesthetically, yeah, it's an unfamiliar style, but at least for me not in any unpleasant sense

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(granted, the fact that the above list is rare is kinda pathetic, but here we are)

green fulcrum
gaunt marten
cerulean herald
mossy flume
slim thorn
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I guess you're doing more involved configuration than me; I know RetroArch doesn't/can't expose every setting of the underlying emulators, especially if the underlying emu has had updates that nobody bothered to repackage for RA yet

mossy flume
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Both Apple and Microsoft need to stop for one hecking second and have another Snow Leopard/Windows 7 optimization cycle facepaw

slim thorn
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hyper-generic software like web browsers usually gets a pass because it's not the browser's fault that some websites weigh a metric ton

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but indeed I do not understand why the OS itself can't just ignore one app being slow and let cursor movement and other apps continue running smoothly while we wait

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in practice I've been taught to start up all 10+ apps I might need for the day, wait for all of their startup sequences to resolve, and only then actually attempt to do anything with any of them

mossy flume
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Yep. But uh… Windows on my machines has been exhibiting many moments where the mouse was lagging for unclear reasons. Just, why.

And iOS 26 has issues with the typing cursor causing the whole keyboard and typing system in general to lock up for a few seconds if I happen to tap in an active input field to relocate the cursor to somewhere and fix a typo.

I could rant about this with various examples and different performance problems for ages… but yeah, Windows 11 and the current macOS and iOS OSs all have terrible terrible optimization problems

gaunt marten
mossy flume
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On windows it seems independent of what I have running, in the foreground and background

slim thorn
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for the set of apps I run at my day job, there's a handful of slow ones that are clearly responsible for the worst of it when I do attempt to do real work right away in the fast apps

mossy flume
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At least those situations make sense. But should individual applications necessarily cause the rest of the system to lock up while waiting on the one application to “stabilize”? I’m not particularly well versed in operating system design, but I would imagine the scheduler would prevent that from happening?

slim thorn
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it really shouldn't

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the one concrete thing I can point to is that my "wait for everything" habit is not just about glitchy performance, but also focus stealing for me, and that falls firmly into "it's not a bug it's a feature" territory you could debate endlessly

mossy flume
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Ah yes, focus stealing is exceedingly rampant too

slim thorn
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it would not surprise me if a lot of these other issues boil down to apps having powers they should not, because if the OSes try to punish bad apps for being bad, it tends to backfire in other ways

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see also kernel-level AC and AV

mossy flume
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Yep yep

slim thorn
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yet another factor is that whenever Windows itself tries to diagnose a perf problem by explicitly blaming a specific process/app, we never believe it rdsnrk (or we do but conclude "that one needs to be expensive")

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I'll probably never have the expertise to tell if those judgements are correct, but I'm already way above average on this topic, so I doubt the average user is trusting it more than me

icy crescent
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fate of the republic looks promising, in the hand of casey hudson

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divinity gonna be larger than BG3? damn im cooked

green fulcrum
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I just hope it's a turn-based CRPG

random steppe
# green fulcrum I just hope it's a turn-based CRPG

Under their name they have 3 genres right?
Divinity which was a real time with pause.
Divinity original sin which was turn based
Divinity Dragon Commander which was RTS mixed in with flight simulator kinda?

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So, if we go by the naming convention and the mainline divinity was a real time with pause, they might be doing that?
Of course there is also the fact that all their biggest success were turn based so if they are doing another mainline called Divinity they might bring that to their mainline

random steppe
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Oh right, in Dragon Commander right?

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Well actually

gaunt marten
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Dating sim is most important, then the strategy lair, then the flight sim

random steppe
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If we want to be picky, you can date in BG3 too

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I am not sure if you can romance the characters in Original Sin

gaunt marten
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Yeah, which makes Baldur's Gate 3 Dragon Commander 2

random steppe
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lol

worthy rose
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The salt on Twitter cadancewheeze "no game should win 9/10/11 awards, ever" "there should be a limit so other games get visibility "

green fulcrum
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Just listened to the orchestra for GOTY. As expected, it's fantastic, but it doesn't quite beat 2023's still. 2023's orchestra was just on a whole different level. That opening part with Alan Wake 2 is just... chefkiss

And then the absolutely gorgeous transition into Baldur's Gate 3, it just sends me into orbit every time.

worthy rose
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"Why did it win art direction?!?" My man. Sit down.

worthy rose
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Some folk seeing some guy on the same row (but opposite of the aisle) of Kojima leaving once e33 got goty and are saying it's Kojima. Kojima catching strays rdsnrk

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Aaaand then some of the hate turns extremely rule 2-y, stopping browsing Twitter for now

young creek
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Who else HATES Geoff Keighley and his STUPID Lame Awards??

worthy rose
icy crescent
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depends on the year artiks, but not this year

wind stump
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call me someone who wants ice cream, because i want The Scoop

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what got announced SO2B_sip

icy crescent
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from what i remember, star wars fate of republic, grandsons of the forest (the forest 3), new divinity game with mad insane trailer presentation, and how expedition 33 yoinked almost all the trophy awards

wind stump
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aside from E33 winning everything

icy crescent
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dont remember the rest mate rdshrug

smoky sonnet
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star wars racing game from burnout/nfs devs
new old republic game that will totally release someday
control sequel
ontos, game from soma devs
ACE COMBAT 8
total war 40k
two tomb raider games

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divinity 3 too

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idr anything notable other than that as far as new games

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there was a new trailer for exodus, game by some ex mass effect devs

wind stump
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nothing that appeals to me then HEFSAmeWheeze

smoky sonnet
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fair few things that caught my eye and ac8 had me screaming

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huge day for me and only me

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oh there was also a new mega man game that they hyped up more than anything else

gaunt marten
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Mega Man Legends 3?

rancid herald
unreal idol
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Retroarch has one of the worst UIs I've seen

visual hill
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RetroArch is the only way to play some systems on some platforms, unfortunately

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for example, I haven't seen any up-to-date N64 emulator that has a macOS version outside of what RetroArch provides

frozen gate
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slightly annoys me it comes w a ton of cores installed by default when i maybe only wanna play like 3 consoles but that's all i got

visual hill
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I think this also applies to the Steam version where they are DLCs, but I think you can uncheck them?

worthy rose
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A few wuxia games too

little badger
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Geoff said that the pipe flute guy used he made himself

frozen gate
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but i think i had to get flycast in retroarch itself iirc so i guess steam only downloaded like half or something?

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though theyre all in my library automatically

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that was the issue

fickle garnet
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I'm so excited for Divinity

visual hill
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I just saw this, Game Pass Ultimate can be had for €1 for 1 month if you haven't had an active subscription recently. Remember to cancel immediately after ordering so you aren't charged the much higher price later on

worthy rose
visual hill
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I did it successfully on my end, my trial expired in March 2025

worthy rose
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Ah, June for me. Might need to wait until jan

fresh bane
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your second mistake was expecting any sort of nuanced or productive conversation happening on any social media right after a big event rdwut

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Apparently it's a hot take to say that Hades should've won best soundtrack? I still think it should have... but I understand E33 is so much bigger than Hades 2 and the style of soundtrack from that game is much more impressive to people, it's obviously outstanding but I guess I appreciate a more unique soundtrack over a technically better soundtrack

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I did come across a few posts even at the time last night of people being really upset about the sw33p and I honestly don't know what they were expecting, to not give E33 the awards just because? rdsnrk it would feel incredibly dishonest

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I'm pretty bummed that Silent Hill F got absolutely nothing but unfortunately it just came out the 'wrong' year

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On any other year, Silent Hill F would've won best narrative and best performance, Hinako's VA did an incredible job

random steppe
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I think that there are 3 or 4 awards that I think E33 has on lock and soundtrack is one of them

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Like, Sountrack, narrative, and best pefrormance IMO are really hard to argue to hand out to someone else.
All the others have a lot more wiggle room

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And to be clear, any other year Hades 2 or Silksong would have battled it out for the Soundtrack one

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E33 does so much with its OST, and it's so varied, I do feel like that one has to go to them that year, even though there are other desrving games in the category

fresh bane
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I know it's a fantastic soundtrack, I do know that, I didn't get too far into that game but I got far enough to hear some tracks and they're obviously super good and on a technical level really well done, I guess I just appreciate Hades 2 having a more unique and diverse sound and being good over an orchestral soundtrack I feel like I hear on everything is all, but I know that there's probably a strong connection between the ost and story moments that made people choose E33 over Hades

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that's my reasoning anyway

slim thorn
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it is very hard to compare this sort of thing without fully completing both games

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especially when "variety" is explicitly being cited by... wait, both of you? ppenk

random steppe
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Hades 2 is pretty varied too to be fair, I don't disagree with that

fresh bane
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maybe the E33 ost gets more varied later on and I didn't hear any of it

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I honestly didn't get too far into it probably

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I stopped right about where || Charlie Cox's character dies and they all jump off the island ||

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that's as far as I got

random steppe
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Could also be that it's definitely a continuation of Hades one so the sound didn't feel as fresh, even though it is obviously exceptional

slim thorn
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yeah, you really have to at least finish act 2 to begin to get a sense of what the real scope of E33 is

fresh bane
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it's really funny to me how despite how big this game is, and despite being a regular watcher of two streamers who played this game in its entirety and can't stop gushing about it, I somehow still didn't get spoiled and I know absolutely nothing about what this is about

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I wasn't even fully tuned in for the few streams of this game I watched so even the stuff I already watched which is most of act 1 I kinda remember ppenk

slim thorn
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tbh I would rate SHf and E33 pretty close on narrative, and I do wonder if SHf's story requiring multiple playthroughs causes problems here

random steppe
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I do want to play that one eventually, time is not plentiful sadly

slim thorn
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with both I have only really minor nits

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e.g. SHf I think could've had more skips for the parts that are the same on NG+, and E33 I think could've done more with some of the non-main characters

random steppe
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Agreed

slim thorn
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(on stream I may have sounded upset at E33's ending choices, and ||wanted another ending which doesn't exist||, but that was almost certainly an intended reaction / effectively a compliment)

random steppe
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Oh yeah

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I mean what you mentioned about it would be a big problem in a lot of narratives, in fact one could argue it's the main flaw in the Hobbit movies. the reason it's just amount to a nitpick in this one is that this story is a miracle it even works as well as it does

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It shouldn't by all accounts, once you stop and dissect it, but they made it work purely by the strenght of the writing and the delivery of the scenes

cerulean herald
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[major spoilers] I've heard a lot about E33, before playing it myself, but the only real spoilers I knew of were ||charlie cox dying, but NOT anything about the whole world being a painting||

fresh bane
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the only drawback really was that I felt like it was one extra playthrough too many, and some sections that they admittedly did patch out later on were super tedious on repeat playthroughs, which thankfully they realized after release

astral steeple
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When tf are they gonna remake silent hill 4 the room lol

Peak game

slim thorn
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probably if and when it becomes profitable to use remakes to redeem an unpopular entry rather than double-dip on an already popular one

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whether that will ever happen I am not sure

fresh bane
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Peak concepts, the way it is, SH4 is the worst game of the original ones easily

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Conceptually? Yes, it's very interesting and I really like it

slim thorn
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same with RE Code Veronica; the island is almost as great an RE map as the Spencer mansion was, but then there's so much wrong with antarctica (including softlocks!) it drags CV as a whole down to "one of the weakest" REs

random steppe
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I mean Konami is getting into remakes lately, it's no impossible we'll see something done with that eventually

arctic fern
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btw @mossy flume some news you might not wanna hear https://bsky.app/profile/jasonschreier.bsky.social/post/3m7sj6bcoxk2o

Last night's biggest surprise was Star Wars: Fate of the Old Republic, led by Casey Hudson, who directed KOTOR (and Anthem). Exciting news for lots of people... but Lucasfilm says the studio was founded this year, which means that 2030 is an *optimistic* guess. Maybe it'll be a PlayStation 7 game

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mossy flume
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Yeah, I think I mentioned this? Might've been elsewhere. The studio was founded in July 2025. Like the other Star Wars projects they announced that they were doing it and they're hiring to build it

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But yeah, it'll be like five years before we hear from it again

arctic fern
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oh mb sorry

mossy flume
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No worries pippwiggle

arctic fern
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you were just excited for it, didnt want you to get your hopes up TOO high

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gaming industry gonna gaming industry

mossy flume
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Yeah, I hear ya. I appreciate the heads up!

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Too true

gaunt marten
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Jason Schrier doesn't look or dress how he sounds

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I primarily know him from his podcast, where I only hear him talk and he's generally got an enthusiastic, somewhat high pitched tone

visual hill
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this brings the total months of free Nitro I've had to 7 over the years

rancid herald
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or Julyus christ

fresh bane
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it's almost always ''hey look at this thing we're working on please invest in our studio/if you're an artist or dev come work at our studio for this game''

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speaking of games yet to come though, the demo for Pragmata is out and it's pretty cool actually!
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3357650/PRAGMATA/

Capcom’s newest IP—PRAGMATA. An all-new Science Fiction action adventure with its own unique hacking twist!
It is the near future, and protagonists Hugh and his android companion Diana, must work together as they make their way through the cold lunar research station.

Price

$59.99

Release Date

Apr 23, 2026

random steppe
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Apparently the full game releasing in 4 months, very good.

fresh bane
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the demo is super short so it won't overstay its welcome too

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it's like a nice little slice of a level

quiet swift
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After begging people to "not let" Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 win Game of the Year, Arc Raiders advocate and ex-FPS pro Shroud finally plans to play the RPG after its Game Awards sweep

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However, he also said something else interesting at the time: "I like to play the game of the year, so whatever the game of the year is going to be, I'll play it." Well, Shroud, your time has come.

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With a bit of a delay rdsnrk

fresh bane
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also I don't know if it was mentioned here already, but the Donkey Kong part of this year's orchestra was incredible

river veldt
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yeeeee

quiet swift
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I like how they all clearly shifted a gear up with the Hades 2 part and it just continued on with that pace for the Donkey Kong part

green fulcrum
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This year's orchestra was awesome, but I still think 2023 is the best one they ever did

craggy vine
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Hey I just had a thought... I miss when more games had a double jump

fickle garnet
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Same ngl

slim thorn
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...we are not playing the same games izzynothoughtsheadempty

minor gorge
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I guess the jet pack in Kerbal Space Program is the closest thing to that in the games I do play? ppenk

slim thorn
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I feel like just about every 2D platformer and/or metroidvania I play has a double jump, except for the Marios, and maybe half the 3Ds?

river veldt
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im trying to think

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Doom 2016 and Eternal have double jumps

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i think most of the other games i play don't

slim thorn
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I believe most of the games I play that don't have a double jump also don't have a jump at all

wraith condor
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The first game I played that had a double jump besides SM64 was Castlevania: Circle of the Moon

river veldt
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Mario 64 doesn't have a double jump

gaunt marten
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It doesn't. It has a triple jump

river veldt
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true

gaunt marten
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Which means it does!

quiet swift
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"Ya! Hoo! Wahoo!"

river veldt
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no when i think double jump i think of a jump you can do midair

gaunt marten
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Some air jumps are double jumps

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Celeste has a jump you can do midair but you can get midair any way you like, including with a dash

quiet swift
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Could've sworn there was an xkcd what if about double jumps too, but apparently not...

slim thorn
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I debated making the same clarification earlier since Mario "doesn't have double jumps" but it does have a different thing it calls a double jump

slim thorn
river veldt
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Mario has a real double jump in Smash Bros

fresh bane
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does Jane Pseudoregalia's kick jump count as a double jump?

slim thorn
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I guess Rondo of Blood is a dubious case since Maria has the double jump but Richter does not

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nah Sybil doesn't have a double jump

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that's one of the reasons I said "maybe half the 3Ds" earlier

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A Hat in Time is a 3D platformer with a traditional double jump

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(even acknowledged in-game; I forget the exact dialogue but it's something like "did you know all small people can jump in midair?" "seriously? that's no fair")

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the Sly Coopers and the Ratchet & Clanks also have double jumps and are 3D

river veldt
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i remember playing Epic Mickey as a child of 9 and trying to double jump irl

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i thought if i tried really hard i could do it

slim thorn
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Mario's really the odd one out on this hyperspecific point. I don't think I've ever seen a Mario-style "double jump"/triple jump in any non-Mario game, which is itself interesting.

river veldt
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this is off topic but do you guys remember that Gameboy commercial where a robot zaps a teenage boy into existence and plays Tetris with him and then the boy beats him and zaps the robot out of existence even though he gave him a gameboy

slim thorn
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I do but only because it's been used as background footage in video essays about that era of gaming

river veldt
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it's fucked up

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if i was given a gameboy in the late 80s i would not zap the person who gave it to me into atoms

slim thorn
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so is the Sega ad where some guy smacks himself with a dead squirrel

river veldt
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Sega had some absolutely insane ads

fresh bane
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man I'm replaying that donkey kong bananza part of the game awards orchestra over and over it's just so good
one day I'll play that game, maybe, when owning a Switch 2 here doesn't cost an arm and a leg and someone else's leg

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also speaking of sega it's a bit funny that even after that crossworlds ad mario kart still ended up winning

river veldt
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i really want a switch 2 but yeah they are quite expensive

fresh bane
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How much are they in the US again? Because they're like 800 USD here

river veldt
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$450

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that's almost double wtf

fresh bane
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Importation price plus we technically don't actually officially have them here yet until... whenever Nintendo decides we're worthy of it releasing here

river veldt
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oh weird

craggy vine
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oops I missed the entire conversation I started

quiet swift
fresh bane
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I was debating whether or not to share that video earlier today

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It's really strange how I can hear the glados voice in her normal voice

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''The TF2 announcer is pretty much the only person I could imagine playing chess with GLaDOS''
''Oh, do you mean the skinny old bitch?'' rdlol

rugged flax
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two words
Horse. Fest.

little badger
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@mossy flume he put out this statement

arctic fern
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That actually makes me more worried ngl
Is the gane gonna be rushed?

green fulcrum
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I mean "before then" still includes holiday release 2029 ppenk

arctic fern
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Lol

wind stump
proud warren
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I'd post a fitting gif, but I don't want to get a slap on the wrist

wind stump
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◀️ BronyaJump

icy crescent
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We are very grateful and honored to have earned the award for Best Action Game for Hades II at The Game Awards! Watch our acceptance moment here. Hades II is not just the culmination of nearly five years of development, but of our studio's entire history aiming to craft fast, responsive, reactive games filled with interesting and surprising mome...

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i didnt know hades II won best action game tho rdwut

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my money was on BF6 cadancewheeze

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still well deserved

quiet swift
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They should've come up to the stage and said "Olympus, I accept this award" rdsnrk

worthy rose
gaunt marten
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I don't know who Bucky is

worthy rose
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Palworld dev, according to the text :p

mossy flume
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Communications Director and Publishing Manager @ Pocketpair

rancid herald
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I could easy see Disney pushing for a KOTOR3 game suddenly and without really any prep work... consider for example that Star Wars Acolyte was announced at the end of 2020 but it didn't even start being written until June of the following year and wouldn't film until 2022 or release until 2024

mossy flume
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It’s possible that a prototype has been developed at another studio and the project was transferred over

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But yeah, who knows

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Could be rushed, or maybe they don’t need to spend time working on tooling so much, or maybe he’s wrong? OriShrug

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Maybe the game won’t reach completion at all? I think this isn’t the first time he tried to make his own studio

arctic fern
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or they intend heavy AI use, we know disney is investing hard into it

mossy flume
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Maybe

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Mass Effect 3 was made in about two years

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18-22 months is what’s usually cited

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Maybe he’s just confident in his ability to manage a studio and deliver something.

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I could buy that there’s confidence if they have a clear script already and don’t need to spend much time with custom engine development

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Apparently Mass Effect 2 was in less than 3 years

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Kinda surprising given the scope of that game

slim thorn
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if it was phrased more like "I'm hoping it won't take that long rdwut" then I'd probably buy all of that, but a factual "will be" has me skeptical

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delays are not a skill issue, they're part of the development process

arctic fern
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yeah but ME3 was basically ME2 but better
they already had the engine and system and groundwork in place

mossy flume
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Same with ME2, basically. All Unreal Engine 3.5
Mass Effect 1 took 4.5 years

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Guess we’ll just have to wait to find out rdwut

gaunt marten
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Set in a grim land plagued by war, Tails of Iron is a hand-drawn RPG Adventure with punishingly brutal combat. As Redgi, heir to the Rat Throne, you must restore your broken Kingdom by banishing the merciless Frog Clan and their ferocious leader, Greenwart.

As you explore the deceivingly charming world, you’ll encounter a cast of unique com…

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$1.99

Recommendations

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92% off

mossy flume
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Not sure if I want to buy just 8% of a game izzynothoughtsheadempty

gaunt marten
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You're free to wait for the sale to expire and buy all of it

mossy flume
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$2, sure why not

wind stump
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yayyyyyy

worthy rose
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Larian making the leaked trademark screenshot their Twitter header... rdsnrk

glad girder
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HOLY SHIT I JUST SAW THE GALACTIC RACER TRAILER

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Speeders, pod racers, and speeder bikes?

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If it has boost mechanics I'm going to go crazy

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this is the closest thing to new Motorstorm that I've seen

wind stump
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Now THIS IS POG RACING

smoky sonnet
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we shall seee

glad girder
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Vehicle racing with violence and multiple vehicle classes on one track is what made motorstorm for me

tiny wigeon
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It’s fun playing deltarune without having been spoiled anything. I finished chapter two today, going to play chapter 3 tomorrow

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I have a strong feeling Ralsei is evil

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Or at least not being entirely honest

river veldt
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lfg

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do you like Spamton

tiny wigeon
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I did both of the secret bosses, not going to make any theories about the knight yet

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I liked Jevil more, but I thought Spamton was a creative character

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I have a feeling I haven’t seen the last of either of them

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I have a friend semi helping me, so that I don’t miss any content

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Like the eggs cadancewheeze

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But so far, I’m completely spoiler free, I’ve got no idea what way the store is gonna go

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Other than my suspicion with Ralsei GlimHmm

proud warren
cerulean herald
tiny wigeon
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i just snapped at him until he ggot tired

tiny wigeon
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my friend loves him

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and he's lucky im doing a pacifist run, i wouldve smoked him instantly

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Jevil really intrigued me, i really do hope he comes back AJThink

proud warren
tiny wigeon
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oh?

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I played on keyboard during his fight, but i switched to controller for all the easy npcs

proud warren
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So anyways, there was a bit of a glitch in the programming (to my knowledge) that made it so one of the keyboard keys (I believe it's the TAB key, but dont quote me on that) allows you to shoot the fully charged version of your "soul attack" (where you're turned sideways and have to play a shoot 'em up basically), and if you used it even once, he gets MAD, basically doubling his speed and glowing red from anger

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(It was initially a glitch, but Toby was cool and kept it in, but made the fight harder if you did that)

tiny wigeon
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ya that definitely didnt happen in my run, ill have to ask my friend tomorrow when we start ch3

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Toby pfff-

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hes pretty funny, but sometimes he thinks he's funnier than he is

proud warren
tiny wigeon
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like with the stupid black pixel at the end of each chapter

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in the boss arenas

proud warren
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Er, should I spoiler this?

tiny wigeon
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ch2 has been out for awhile its prob fine

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plus I beat it already

proud warren
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Funniest part is, speedrunners used this exploit due to how much faster it is

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It saves so much time, but makes the boss a lot harder

proud warren
gaunt marten
tiny wigeon
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and that he progressivley is getting more famous

proud warren
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He's Nubert, everybody loves him

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Nubert is actually based off one of these

unreal idol
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Flitter what N64 emulator do you use?

gaunt marten
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Nowadays I use Ship of Harkinian because it's more configurable and runs better

unreal idol
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Ah I see

cunning galleon
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So beautiful

visual hill
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UT2004 also has it, it lets you extend the duration of the speed boost granted by dodging

visual hill
river veldt
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Doom 2016 and Eternal have their double jumps but then in Dark Ages it feels like you're glued to the ground

visual hill
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Legends of Equestria has a similar exploit too (or had, back when I played it in 2018)

glad girder
gaunt marten
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Yeah, the marketing is full of lies

wind stump
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yeah i saw that and was like "Yeah that explains the embargos."

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ffs even the retro scene is full of marketing bs now

gaunt marten
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Always has been

slim thorn
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kinda wild that this is by some metrics apparently the most accurate emulator to date and the marketing decided to go all-in on THIS IS NOT AN EMULATOR

wind stump
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Ehhh if I was making a Nintendo retrobox I would also try to avoid the E word

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Lest the Nintendo Ninjas get involved.

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(Then again, I would probably try to avoid making anything Nintendo-related on any scale other than personal in the first place.)

random steppe
slim thorn
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yeah I don't think word choice is going to affect whether Nintendo comes after this rdsnrk

wind stump
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this is all i know about Pragmata

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which probably isn't a slight against the game as much as it is overblown AAAA nonsense, but it's still kind of funny that a friend sent me this without any other context

random steppe
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Pretty much all games nowdays need to compile shaders once at launch

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I mean big 3d games

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It was really not a surprise when it did it

slim thorn
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how good are they at actually reusing the shaders after the first launch? I rarely play games where this matters but I feel like some perf complaints involve the shaders recompiling over and over again when they shouldn't need to

random steppe
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Definitely prefer it to when games didn't and tried to compile them on the fly and absolutely murdered their own frame timing as a result

gaunt marten
random steppe
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Well sometimes after updates

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But yeah generally you aren't gonna see that screen very often, in my experience at least

gaunt marten
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That's true, if you update your drivers, for example, you would need to recompile shaders

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Any changes to GPU architecture, to relevant APIs, or to drivers would make it necessary

slim thorn
random steppe
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I mean, I don't have examples that didn't compile shaders, and then after an updated switched to the new systems to compare

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And it's hard to tell if a game is running poorly is because it's not using the shaders effectively

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I do know that I have to sit paused at the start of every POE2 map for the shaders to load or the game runs like ass and I hate it, so anecdotally at least, I like when the game loads them ahead of time.

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(Apparently they made it better last patch, I have yet to play it though, so I can still be mad)

wind stump
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i mean, i guess FFXIV has loading issues sometimes, but i guess that's just my PC being a cunt

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(it is a cranky ol' thing)

random steppe
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To be fair, so is FFXIV

wind stump
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it does lead to rare instances of me tposing while trying to load in, so it's a win either way

gaunt marten
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Okay, looking into it

fresh bane
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There's like 5 pages for completely different brightness settings when you start the game

wind stump
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it's validating to see (HAH) someone just go "yeah i knock up the brightness"

visual hill
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some games have broken shader caches, which cause needless invalidations

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it's the exception, not the norm thankfully

gaunt marten
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All right. GPU+Driver+OS combo is ONE reason recompilation is necessary.
Other reasons:
1- Shader is not hash-identical to an existing compiled shader. The driver checks intermediate representation, entry point, compile flags, and other functional pieces of the shader to determine that.
2- Other parts of the pipeline changed. If you introduce a different antialiasing method to the pipeline, or change the layout of the pipeline in other ways, you need a recompilation.
3- If you already have a cached version of the shader, but the internal compiler changed or the global settings of the driver changed, you'll have to make it all over again.
In short, drivers have to be ultra conservative with this sort of shit because in the best case scenario this results in stutter or visual corruption. In the worst case kernel-level driver crashes

glad girder
gaunt marten
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So have I

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Well I never did Mew or trading

glad girder
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my goal is to be able to do this one day, though hopefully in a less exorbitant fashion

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it just depends on hardware costs, time, and priorities

gaunt marten
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You can abuse bugs to get any Pokémon if you know what you're doing

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This lets you get them all with no trading

mossy flume
glad girder
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Yeah - I want to find flashable cartridges so I could make my own clone carts with quality PCBs, and I'll have to settle for worse condition hardware

mossy flume
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Since Mew was never officially distributed outside Japan

glad girder
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Yeah

river veldt
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what's everyone's favorite gen 1 pokemon

mossy flume
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Eevee, maybe

glad girder
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You are making me make some very hard decisions right now and I do not like that

mossy flume
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That's a very hard question

river veldt
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my real one is Beedrill (who also happens to be my all time favorite), but i also adore missingno

gaunt marten
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Sephiroth

mossy flume
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Squirtle and Wartortle come to mind, as well as Charmander, Eevee, Mew, Vulpix, Sandslash, and Marowak

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Alakazam is cool too

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Ninetales and Pidgeotto/Pidgeot too

gaunt marten
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Kadabra is my favorite after Sephiroth

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Wait no

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I forgot Ninetales is gen 1

hushed onyx
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Ninetales, Nidorina, Sandshrew/Sandslash…

river veldt
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they should make missingno a real pokemon

hushed onyx
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Mew is okay I guess.

mossy flume
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Like you're basically asking me to pick a favorite image from my religion /s

glad girder
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what's frustrating is insidegadgets sells a cart with RTC, but it's only on their expensive link n load carts that let you flash ROMs onto them via USB type C

gaunt marten
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They should make Minecraft Steve a real Pokémon

river veldt
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true

hushed onyx
glad girder
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I wonder if you could 3d print a shell with swappable face plates like stickers so you could rotate between games without reshelling the PCB

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or I can just be normal and accept that my cartridge doesn't match the game loaded on it

tiny wigeon
mossy flume
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But reshelling the cart is probably better

glad girder
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And it'd be expensive if I wanted like 3-4 of these in rotation

glad girder
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I kinda wish we could get an official Game Freak take on this art style, kind of like an elevated gen 5 with the combined sprites and 3d

river veldt
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2.5d HD or whatever the Octopath style is called could be cool

cerulean herald
visual hill
visual hill
visual hill
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Tribes 2 also has more online players than Tribes 3 usually, but it's helped by being freeware

quiet swift
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A valid response, honestly

quiet swift
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Huh. It's not flue guy, but I just noticed that this guy was playing a see-through trumpet.

rancid herald
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oh good

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you can watch the spit

fresh bane
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Don't wind instrument players wet the hell out of their lips and the instrument before playing?

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I wouldn't want to be in the splash zone of any of those instruments

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Also I keep coming back to that orchestra performance because it's really damn good

tiny wigeon
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Roaring knight had to basically be done hitless, that took 4-5 attempts ppinkierush

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This is exactly how it felt

cerulean herald
tiny wigeon
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Also the video game in a game was cool, but not my favorite play on the narrative

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Also I’m like still almost completely unsure about everything story wise Lusterselfboop

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I still think Ralsei is evil

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Pretty much still don’t have any clear answer to everything else

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Hopefully chapter four leaves me with a few more fixed ends, though it probably won’t

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Lastly, the egg this chapter was so stupid to get

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How anyone could’ve gotten that without looking at the code is beyond me

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Very rare Toby L

arctic fern
rancid herald
unreal idol
gaunt marten
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The marketing for the Analogue 3D is deceptive. This is their marketing page:

Welcome to a new dimension
A reimagining of the N64. In 4K resolution. 10x the resolution of the original N64.* The first and perhaps greatest multiplayer system of all time. Analogue3D is 100% compatible with every original N64 game ever made. Region Free. Bluetooth LE. Dualband Wifi. Four original-style controller ports. Entirely new, next generation Analogue hardware featuring 3DOS. Engineered entirely in FPGA. No Emulation.```
1- It's not a reimagining, it copies the N64 as closely as it can.
2- 4k is not ten times the resolution of the original N64.
3- N64 was not the first multiplayer system of all time.
4- Analogue3D is compatible only with games that were published during the lifetime of the N64, not games released past it.
5- True, it is free of regional restrictions, but so is the original N64.
6- FPGA is a form of hardware emulation.
green fulcrum
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Ah, so buzzword marketing

gaunt marten
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Analogue3D represents a milestone in video game preservation. It's not just a reimagining of the N64—it's the first fully compatible, hardware-accurate recreation, fully compatible with the entire N64 game library. After nearly four years of dedicated FPGA engineering, Analogue3D overcomes the limitations of software emulation—no input lag, no graphic or audio inaccuracies, no timing or frame rate problems. This is the N64, perfected and true to its core
1- It's not a milestone in videogame preservation. It's not the first of its kind.
2- It's not fully compatible, not hardware-accurate, does have input lag and graphic and audio inaccuracies as well as timing and framerate problems.

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And so on and so forth

green fulcrum
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Kinda like saying "military grade". For the average person, that means "good quality". For military, it means "cheap crap thrown together on the fly with spit, gum, tape, and prayer because you have nothing else to work with and have a very limited budget".

gaunt marten
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Right. As with everything, you should actively distrust marketing, and look for impartial expert reviews

unreal idol
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Damn,how disappointing

little badger
graceful bridge
little badger
slim thorn
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I forgot it technically didn't launch

little badger
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It has a price of £34.99 €39.99 and $39.99

proud warren
# tiny wigeon

What was your thoughts on the other mini-games (specifically the ||guitar hero|| section?)

wind stump
light gate
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It looks so much better

mossy flume
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Looking very good virtuslucarionod

little badger
mossy flume
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Which is good news. Bungie's entire future is riding on it, it seems.

wind stump
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i hate this level FoobOhNo

wind stump
bronze abyss
wind stump
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i've not even finished it Sob

mossy flume
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Nintendo updated the HDR calibration screen on the Switch 2 by adding the ability to see the actual luminance value. I would suggest anyone who's playing Switch 2 with their dock on a HDR display to recalibrate, assuming you know your display's max luminance.

bronze abyss
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my top 5 on the criteria of scaryness/danger
5.giant,can be tricky to avoid depending on the map especially vanilla
4.coil head,would be higher but one of the patches nerfed it significantly
3.bracken,can be difficult but it has counter play,what makes it scarier is that it sometimes behaves unexpectedly
2.jester,unkillable,only counters are godspots or exiting the facility to re enter,can be an early run ender
1.man eater,no explanation needed shitting myself on sight
honourable mention:ghost girl,can be a menace when combined with some other monsters but on its own is meh

tiny wigeon
visual hill
teal sonnet
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Holy fuck

random steppe
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I already made this joke in the thread, but, I hope we see Silksong at the next Summer Game Fest.

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Also for the record, I do not believe them when they say 2026, one thing is clear, team cherry can't gauge how long they take to make a game for shit.
But I am happy they are working on it, water themed expansion seems fun and not something we saw in HK

teal sonnet
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Damn E33 can’t stop winning

hushed onyx
teal sonnet
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other day was doing a blood exam and E33 was the result

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the french cant keep getting away with this

rancid herald
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let us make e33 the chuck noris joke of the 2020s

hasty patio
quiet swift
green fulcrum
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No wonder why r/Silksong was Silkposting again today, lol

quiet swift
cunning galleon
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Missing point black in project zomboid is bullshit

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I placed an ultimate goal for a zomboid playthrough

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Survive until i die of old age

wind stump
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for some reason i'm deciding to jump between the N64 and PS1 versions

quiet swift
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If y'all want the tomb raider trilogy, it's 90% off. 10ish bucks for all three

rancid herald
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CRPG?

slim thorn
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you're asking what a CRPG is?

rancid herald
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yes

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Canadian RPG?

slim thorn
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Ixrec — 9/21/25, 15:23
more generally, I suspect the least wrong short definitions we can give these days are
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"CRPG" used to mean Computer RPG, but now it's retronymed to Classic RPG with the meaning of Baldur's Gate-like (especially 1-2)
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rancid herald
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rip my dream of Montraels and Maple Leafs

slim thorn
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Larian Studios' Divinity series and then Baldur's Gate 3 has been a huge part of the recent revival of CRPGs

wind stump
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i thought it was Combat RPG but
right, Action RPG is a thing

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also most RPGs have combat, dum dum hc

slim thorn
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yeah CRPG is not as self-explanatory as JRPG

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but the concept it's going for probably can't be

visual hill
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I thought it meant Classic RPG

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like, meant to emulate a pen-and-paper RPG

slim thorn
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my message said "Classic" yes

rancid herald
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just call them Laurian-likes

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or LLRPG

slim thorn
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it would be really funny if people started feeling the need to distinguish between actually-old Classic RPGs and the "modern Classic" RPGs

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I could see Larian ending up in a name for the latter

visual hill
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LRPG

gaunt marten
wind stump
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Neither is 1

minor plover
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Metroid Composite

quiet swift
mossy flume
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rdshrug Would anyone care for a fresh Factorio + Space Age server for Manechat?

gaunt marten
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We talked about it earlier in #1032767535805902888

random steppe
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Good luck, for me Factorio is a deeply personal experience in which I can explore how inadequate I am, I can barely handle it as is, I can't be in the same game as other, more comptetent people than me.

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(Half joking, have fun)

mossy flume
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I’m also quite bad at it Jolteon_hehe

wind stump
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i've only played Satisfactory

mossy flume
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Mostly because I have a hard time actually working out all the math. I feel like Factorio could give more information.

gaunt marten
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That's what the calculator and extra info mods are for

fresh bane
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IGN

This morning, the news broke that Larian Studios, developer of Baldur's Gate 3 and the upcoming, just-announced Divinity, is apparently using generative AI behind the scenes. The backlash has been swift, and now Larian founder and game director Swen Vincke is responding to clarify his remarks.

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and then Swen Vincke replied

mossy flume
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This is exactly what I keep saying.

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Yet nobody listens...

fresh bane
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in the article he links they do talk about using machine learning systems for certain tasks that I think most people would be fine with, stuff like for example:

"It's the obvious things, like a motion capture cleaning or voice editing or, something very specific. Retargeting. So that is basically if you play with different species, you want to be able to reuse an animation on a different species that are in different size, and then they're doing certain interactions with others," Vincke explained.
but in the tweet he says a completely different thing, talking about using AI for initial concept ideas that they then use real art for, which defeats the entire purpose completely

mossy flume
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AI is an AMAZING tool for rapid iteration. But it doesn't replace artists.

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And every game studio does this, or will do very very soon. Anyone who thinks otherwise is not understanding the situation. rdwut

slim thorn
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he also explicitly says in the tweet that regular concept artists are involved after the "very early ideation" stage that does AI art, and that they are not "replacing" concept artists

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maybe there's something wrong with that statement, but without being a game dev myself that seems plausibly fine

fresh bane
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There's no point in having a real artist iterate upon the AI-generated concept, at that point you're already using AI for it, just use the AI generated output and be honest with it, because an artist didn't come up with it, I don't believe in using AI to generate things and then having an artist touch it up later, that's not a real artist doing anything and it defeats the purpose of even having a real artist that simply could've come up with a design anyways. These are ''world-class'' artists according to his own words, if they can't handle the task of creating unique concepts on a team of 23 concept artists what are they even here for? And if they can handle the task, why have the AI here? It's just needlessly complicating the entire creative process, you can cut down either the AI or the artist from this process to make it more effective.
But I'm not really looking to go back and forth on the topic, I just wanted to share the whole news because it's kind of spread between like 3 different articles and a random tweet so people could see what the situation was about, especially because it's Larian and I imagine the news being AI related will probably spread very quickly

mossy flume
fresh bane
slim thorn
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tbh I'm also skeptical that, if Larian was using AI, they'd use it for such a small purpose

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they're not stupid, they know the PR risk of touching AI with a ten-foot barge pole

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and unlike the mega publishers their business actually depends on maintaining good PR

fresh bane
static bluff
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lol @ my Stream Wrapped chart

random steppe
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The way I've read it, the way they are using it, is essentially the "doodle on the back of the napkin" stage.

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Like, this is before any actual artist has put any work into creating the thing they have to create, to give the artist an idea of what they have to create, since we are human being and we can't just beam thoughts into each other heads.

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Before it would have been a collage of images taken from google, or a literal doodle done in 30 seconds by the person that had the idea regardless of their artistic skill.

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So an equally non artistic job as just putting a few keywords on dall-e

slim thorn
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huh, I have 28% playtime in New Releases, compared to global average of 14%

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that feels weird but maybe it's the new normal now that all of you normal people are playing those live service forever games that technically came out a decade ago???

random steppe
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E33 I didn't play on Steam so it's not in there, that said you can clearly see Ender Magnolia and Silksong happened the same year

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The rest is Warframe, No Man's Sky and a bit of Elite Dangerous if I had to guess

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Oh and POE2

slim thorn
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the monthly graphs are hilariously pointless for me

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much data, very insight, so silk

random steppe
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Oh and a bit of a Rimworld relapse

uneven epoch
slim thorn
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in my case it's missing Metroid Prime 4

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which evidently didn't matter much for my genre tag graph

green fulcrum
# mossy flume This is exactly what I keep saying.

I saw what was said in the interview, but knew that Larian wasn't replacing anyone on their team or actually using AI in their final product (Larian is waaaay too smart and too honest to do that), so I am okay with this. If it helps save a lot of headaches and time for everyone and every bit of it is later removed and replaced with human-made art and work, then I don't see the problem.

In fact, that is the one singular use for AI art that I think is fine: workshopping ideas. It gives you a basic concept of what something could look like, and then you take that concept, fix it up, reorganize it, add to it, remove what doesn't work, and make it uniquely yours. The end result can still end up being wildly different from that intial first generation.

In this one specific instance, I can see why people would use it, as a means for getting an easy general visual sense of what something you're working on could look like before you actually start working on what it will look like.

uneven epoch
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it is funny that you can clearly see on my progress i am really trying to curb the "ooo shiny" impulses and do one game at a time

fickle garnet
mossy flume
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Gotta replace them with real art later, but during development it doesn't actually matter.

green fulcrum
mossy flume
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Yeah, I'm not a fan of that either. I can see it being done by mistake, but it's not acceptable when done intentionally.

river veldt
green fulcrum
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Larian isn't hiring AI "artists". They are hiring artists who use AI to make their lives easier in the very initial stages of development so that they can save hours upon hours of work workshopping ideas. This is perfectly morally acceptable, imo. The artists aren't going to use those images as end states, only for inspiration. It cuts down on crunch and allows them more time to work on what actually matters: the real, human-made assets used in the final product.

uneven epoch
mossy flume
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And of course the individual employees can choose to use the AI tools or not, it's generally up to them (this is true across every company, really)

random steppe
uneven epoch
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i am so normal about that. yay yay yay yay

slim thorn
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someday I will get to Hades 2

green fulcrum
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Yes, we got along just fine without AI before, I agree. We still can. But this is a perfectly acceptable compromise that does more good than harm. There is no art theft here. The artists making the art in the final product are still making their own art in their own styles, without copying anyone else.

slim thorn
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but I expect that game will require the ability to lock-in, which I do not currently possess

uneven epoch
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i finallyyyyy got to progress on the epilogue quest, so i should be "done" with hades to the point i wanted to be soon (ie get to see the epilogue)

slim thorn
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though I doubt I'll do heat 32 again

uneven epoch
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.... how fortunate then, that ffxiv's new patch dropped today penk

green fulcrum
random steppe
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I do want to set aside a couple of day for FFXIV

uneven epoch
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arcadion! arcadion! arcadion!

random steppe
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Really want to see how the arcadion story concludes

uneven epoch
fickle garnet
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Most played game

slim thorn
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some of us have a chart of six genre tags, others have "great soundtrack" and "40k"

fickle garnet
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The only 40K game I played was Space Marine 2flutternatureissofascinating

slim thorn
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I just like the implication that you don't play the games, you just sit there and vibe to them

river veldt
cerulean herald
fickle garnet
light gate
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Yeah, Deltarune was my year game.

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But on PS5… prob BF6 or Oblivion

fickle garnet
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35% of my played games were ones that came out this year, 15% was classics, and 50% was recent favourites

light gate
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Heh, perfectly balanced. ||As all things should be…||

quiet swift
uneven epoch
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this wrap thing just reminds me i rlly wanna replay kcd II again ponknothoughtsheadempty now that we have all those fancy patch and dlc thingies

quiet swift
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Sounds about right

fickle garnet
frozen gate
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the dwarf bit is just like

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sort of funny

arctic fern
fresh bane
# fresh bane Babe wake up it's time for your daily AI-related news! This time with Larian htt...

https://bsky.app/profile/jasonschreier.bsky.social/post/3ma5dqbmgm22o

some more context for this story, the actual transcript of what was said in the actual interview, I think it gives a bit more info on the whole thing

If I had known the two paragraphs about genAI in my article today would be so controversial, I would have expanded them a bit! Here's a rough transcript of the relevant portion of my interview with Swen Vincke, so everyone has all the context. (Full article here: www.bloomberg.com/news/newslet...)

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fresh bane
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I'm early on in the game so the whole post 1.0 content update shouldn't be too big of a deal for me

quiet swift
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whipcrack

worthy rose
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Trailers for sales feels weird rdwut https://youtu.be/76bmexgiHqo?si=JXK8Vv5TvD9X5C3_

Check out the Steam Winter Sale, running December 18th through January 5th!
https://store.steampowered.com/

00:00 Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon - https://store.steampowered.com/app/1466060
00:01 DYNASTY WARRIORS: ORIGINS - https://store.steampowered.com/app/2384580
00:02 Borderlands® 4 - https://store.steampowered.com/app/1285190
00:09 Dun...

▶ Play video
green fulcrum
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Ah, just realized, the Steam Replay is what people were posting earlier. Here's mine:

slim thorn
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is this the “I have played nothing but Larian all year” spread? rdsnrk

green fulcrum
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Unfortunately, I really only played two games this year, Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous and the Avernum 4 remake. This year was not a very good year for me with games. Too depressed.

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I'm hoping to play more next year, starting by finishing Avernum 4, and then moving on to a JRPG or puzzle game instead to spice things up a bit. Maybe even some Factorio or a platformer like the N-Sane Trilogy or Sonic Frontiers.

quiet swift
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Like I said earlier, mine is definitely tainted wheeze

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cocothink I wonder if 'hiding' the game will change those results...

fresh bane
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seems about right for me too
I didn't really play much this year so much as I just re-replayed MGSV a ton and re-re-replayed RE2 and the DMC games, and played a bit of that Battlefront 2

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hmmm.... I might reinstall Torchlight 2.... that game is actually pretty fun even if I wasn't paying a lick of attention to the lore at all

quiet swift
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Nope, marking it as hidden or removing it from played doesn't change the replay page rdsnrk

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Had to go at (appropriately) 33% zoom to get everything. And even then, E33 was on gamepass because I was really low on money and that was the cheaper option at the time (before the price hike)

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A fair bit of those I have like less than an hour on though, some are demos, some I got distracted playing something else. And since this is steam, it doesn't track my ungodly hours in WoW ppenk

fresh bane
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I remember people being excited for Death Must Die but then it ended up being a bit underwhelming

quiet swift
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It's still in early access

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https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2334730/view/587284808250427102?l=english they have a roadmap discussing their plans, seems they've given it a lot of thought

INTRO It's been a while since our last post, so we wanted to communicate what we've been working on and expand on the roadmap ahead. In short, we are making sweeping changes, increasing the scope of the game to create a bigger and more cohesive experience. ENVIRONMENT & ART The world of Death Must Die started as an infinite plane, with a few obj...

fresh bane
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Yeah but Hades was in early access too and I remember hearing some discussion about it still, Death Must Die kinda just fizzled out, but maybe it's gonna change when the game actually comes out

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There was this one game I remember seeing I thought looked a bit interesting

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I think I didn't end up checking it out because it sounded like it's a better co op experience rather than solo

quiet swift
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I have it on my wishlist too

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Oh, for bullet heaven (seems like people are pushing for that to be the survivors-like tag) I would heartily recommend DRG: Survivors. That's actually launched too

fresh bane
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I.... I guess they're kinda similar....

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I guess it rolls off the tongue better than ''Vampire Survivors-like''

quiet swift
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Ah, you can manipulate the replay by marking a game private. I left gnorp apologue running 3-4 days to get stuff since it's an idler/clicker and that skewed things too much

quiet swift
river veldt
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you left.... "gnorp apologue" running ???????

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what the hell is gnorp apologue rdsnrk

quiet swift
river veldt
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oh ok i thought it was like Poob

cerulean herald
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im guessing this based off on hours played

river veldt
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god game ?

cerulean herald
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yeah idk what that means ppenk

slim thorn
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A god game is an artificial life game that casts the player in the position of controlling the game on a large scale, as an entity with divine and supernatural powers, as a great leader, or with no specified character (as in Spore), and places them in charge of a game setting containing autonomous characters to guard and influence.

cerulean herald
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ah

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found the culprit

rancid herald
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A god game is basically Hades or Age of Mythology

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where you play as a god

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clearly

hushed onyx
# rancid herald where you play as a god

The classic ones like Populous or Black and White absolutely were, just that you were a god playing a strategy game rather than a roguelite. IDK what kind of weird definition people are using ti consider a WWII simulator a “god game”

icy crescent
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souls-like is me

little badger
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PS3 and vita store closing in January in Bulgaria

gaunt marten
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Doesn't read like that

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Looks like the store will accept Euro instead of Lev

unreal idol
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My steam unwrapped

cunning galleon
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I really like medieval stuff apparently

little badger
gaunt marten
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Yes

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Which means you can just use the european store instead of the bulgarian one

little badger
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Hmm if that happens then that’s good. Last time Sony tried to close the PS3/Vita store they didn’t because of the backlash.

bronze abyss
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normal proceedure,bulgaria's just switching over to euro as a whole so its nothing unusual

slim thorn
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yeah, it says right at the top this is only because Bulgaria itself is switching currencies

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sounds like PlayStation's just updating to match reality

little badger
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@mossy flume we have the view numbers

mossy flume
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Hecc

slim thorn
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sounds like France's investment in rigging it paid off

glad girder
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I can’t wait to get rid of my quest 3 for a steam frame

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I can disable notifications but it’s insane that I have to deal with the garbage that is meta horizons for my headset

mossy flume
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Meta Horizons being mandatory the way it is is insane

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The Quest 3 and the Meta glasses can go into a storage bin forever once the Steam Frame and Apple's glasses hit

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Meta's products are unbelievably disrespectful of the user

mossy flume
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And I'm just here like

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?????

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The absolute fuck are you talking about

slim thorn
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the TGA was "full of AI slop"? izzywhat

mossy flume
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Accusing Geoff of being ultra-pro AI too

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?????????????????????/

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The fuck are these people smoking

slim thorn
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this feels like what would happen if you received all of your news through AI summaries

mossy flume
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Right?

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Also I recall a bunch of them just pointedly refusing to watch too, so like... how do you plan to know anything about what happened in it?

little badger
mossy flume
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Yeah

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It was one of the best TGAs in a while IMO OriShrug

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They're usually pretty good

little badger
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Won’t be long until summer games fest returns

mossy flume
quiet swift
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If you even breathe the fact that AI was used, even for the tiniest, tiniest little thing that saved 5 minutes of time maximum, you're branded AI slop

wind stump
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Touhou 20 had that "contreversy", yeah

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god forbid a solo dev in his 50s use AI for a background. For a demo.

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Which...

Appearing live on the Touhou Station YouTube channel, ZUN explained that his goal in using AI in Fossilized Wonders was to “reduce it to nothing more than a tool,” rather than let it become a replacement for a real creator. “The most important thing is not to lose to AI. Naturally, entrusting the act of creation entirely to AI means losing to it. However, denying AI outright or rejecting it just because you dislike it is also a form of losing to AI.”

ZUN went on to comment that “AI is just a convenient tool, and using it this way was my way of asserting that I won’t lose when it comes to creative work.” Regarding the ethical issues of art theft and infringement that inevitably come up when AI art is involved, ZUN clarifies that the AI-generated backgrounds in Fossilized Wonders were created using Adobe Firefly. Adobe Firefly’s image generation model is considered to be trained on legally-sound materials such as Adobe-owned and public domain images. It also permits commercial use of exported images.

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“Precisely because I have a negative stance towards AI, I believe refusing to use it at all would be the same as losing to it.”

mossy flume
slim thorn
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maybe we do need to bring back the "primary sources" thing

mossy flume
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^

quiet swift
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Yeah, a lot of these absolutists are comparing these studios using AI to being the artist, when it's more akin of the AI being the brush that they are using. (though some AAA studios are definitely using it wholesale in some cases, cutting out the artist... looking at you COD). Labeling them all the same as slop is just so, so damn stupid

mossy flume
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Leaving that server, they're just too tangled up and confused for me to deal with

slim thorn
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even if the blueskier(???) did nothing wrong (which is already a huge if), a random offhand comment is going to be leaving out so much context it's very easy to misinterpret if you have no other source on the issue

mossy flume
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It's not like they ever listen to a word I say anyway rdwut

slim thorn
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sadly a lot of people don't care about what's true, just about finding excuses to be angry; those are not the people worth engaging with

wind stump
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also in the case of Touhou 20 using AI for backgrounds...
It's Touhou. You're not seeing more than 2% of the screen at any given time anyway.

slim thorn
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(whether they lean left or right or a confusing mix)

mossy flume
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They're very left but also want to be angry at everything.

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Nothing is good, ever, and saying otherwise makes you a corporate shill

wind stump
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(Exaggerating, but like, god this was so dumb, thankfully I didn't run into anyone who actually thought this was a crime against humanity)

quiet swift
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(at the risk of going into R2 territory, these same lefts have such an absolutist view that nothing can ever be good enough, so they won't vote and now we're where we are. It's the same mentality with AI in this case)

mossy flume
# cerulean herald

This has been my experience with that group, especially in the past several months

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(This is also a good summary of a lot of AI discourse)

slim thorn
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mm-hmm, the form of "horseshoe theory" that is true is that when you define yourself primarily by blind hatred of <thing>, with no regard for the nuanced and changing reality of that thing, it quickly becomes trivial to make anything and everything a fair target, and the only distinction between these groups becomes which words they're currently primed to attack

mossy flume
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Yep yep.

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Also how you end up performing a lot of "friendly fire," as it were.

wind stump
# cerulean herald

i hate how this applies to me with stuff like double pressing a space on smartphone to make a full stop.

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(Bitching about petty stuff that doesn't hurt anyone is fun though!)

unreal idol
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Guh i wanna finish OoT but >FF14

wind stump
hushed onyx
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I see that as an autocorrect for all the people who were wrongly told that you should have two spaces after a period. Although it only ever triggers for me when it is not useful or desired (I always explicitly type a period).

wind stump
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(The FFXIV thread is currently a fucking CIA document because of me)

uneven epoch
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just finished hades epilogue today! i might be divin into the patch tomorrow but i think ill be too busy so probably not until monday

unreal idol
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I had to restart my save file earlier because NSO is shit and didnt want to save my progress for some reason

river veldt
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there was a Hades patch ???

mossy flume
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I keep forgetting the double space to add a period pattern exists

uneven epoch
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no, hades 1

mossy flume
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I always explicitly type my periods.

wind stump
river veldt
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OH

uneven epoch
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ah, yea sorry, it was mostly response to hc

river veldt
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that makes more sense ppenk

wind stump
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yeah there was a bit of crossed wires i felt needed to be uncrossed

river veldt
wind stump
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Would that work if the save fails tho

river veldt
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ive never had problems with save states

unreal idol
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Save states may be responsible for this mess

rancid herald
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the AI slop at TGA took the form of a 50 foot woman presenter...

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silly AI doesn't know the appropriate size of a woman

uneven epoch
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that one lady from silent hill?

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resitdent evil, whatever

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im not versed in horror games

slim thorn
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Lady Dimitrescu is from Resident Evil 8, yes

quiet swift
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# quiet swift

That's not what the guy said, but if that's what he meant, then he worded his tweet in the worst way possible, especially knowing how much of a hot topic genAI is
His previous mentions of using machine learning systems previously were completely fine and understandable, but the way he worded his tweet made it sound like they'd just generate concept arts that the artists would then use as reference/paint over, which is exactly what the director of publishing also said when he tried to calm people down by explaining more of what they use it for

cerulean herald
# quiet swift

maybe Grok isnt the best example there rdsnrk
but stuff like ChatGPT/Gemini/etc are decent enough for quick summaries, preferably for stuff youre already familiar with
but please do not use LLMs as a substitute for search engines ppenk

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as if we needed more proof that social media is the worst place to have discussions about complicated topics

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once again, no one can even agree on the basic facts of the case, so the differing "opinions" are ultimately meaningless

gaunt marten
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What is the best place?

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As many people pointed out since, it's also really strange for him to point out how people were initially against it at their studio but then they started coming around to it and are okay with how it's used now, considering Larian's hiring process and the fact that people have to emigrate to Belgium to even work there, yeah I'd bet people would start being fine with it if it meant keeping their jobs
https://bsky.app/profile/unburntwitch.com/post/3ma4ozsue5c22

Everyone is more or less okay with it” dude you make people emigrate to work there because you don’t do remote work, they risk having to change countries if they disagree with it

-# Bryant Francis (@bryantfrancis.me)
sigh

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Larian's horrible hirring process is an open secret in the industry – insane amounts of unpaid work in "writing tests", excessive numbers of interviews, months and months of back and forth, etc. Everyone in games narrative circles has heard the stories at this point, probably from multiple people.

-# Zoë “Baddie Proctor” Quinn (@unburntwitch.com)
I know this because they tried to recruit me and I strongly considered it but they’re also a “do an unpaid writing test where you have to also make it playable” company so that’s not something I vibe with

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I know a lot of people have this mentality of ''well it's not gonna be there on the end result so it's fine'', but I feel like that's a very short sighted mentality to have and it's essentially the same as all the people that now are complaining about things like Amazon's AI dubbing just because it sounds bad, and not because it's AI in the first place and all that that represents, even if it sounded good it would still be bad regardless, the same way even if the end result of whatever this game is doesn't have generated content in it it doesn't change the fact that it was used at all and how that 'infects' all parts of the process of the production, even for something as '''''small''''' as generating concepts for inspiration (a process that is not small at all, those are literally the foundations of the identity of your project, it dictates what mood you're gonna go for, what look, what vibe, what aesthetic, it's about as active of a creative process as you can think of. Selecting images to put on a moodboard and using some machine learning system to create the moodboard itself would be a completely different actually OK usage of the technology, since that is actually menial non-creative work, but that's not what they're saying)

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The funny thing is, even the guy himself on the interview said that they're not even seeing that many improvements in terms of speed during production anyways, so it's not like this magic technology that's solving every step of the production and allowing artists infinite freedom, and when asked why they're even using it if it's not even offering them that much, the guy basically said that it's a new technology, and every business has to use whatever hot new technology is out there or else you risk getting left behind, so they just have to use it to appear competitive and state-of-the-art to the industry at large. And those are his own words.

river veldt
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ah a blatant reference to Yoshi's broken grammar in Mario 64

unreal idol
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I don't like that they are using Gen AI at all

river veldt
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im playing Mario Odyssey because i wanna use the Santa costume but you have to beat the game first

slim thorn
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yeah, this isn't even about the facts we have access to any more, this is all about whether your personal (dis)trust is low enough that you'll assume even the reasonable parts of the story in the sources we do have are just lying or biased

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of course game publishers only have themselves to blame for people assuming the worst of them

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would be nice if we could go a whole year without one of the beloved indie studios turning out to be just another abusive employer

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at this point it wouldn't even surprise me if Sandfall was evil too

unreal idol
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Team Cherry?

slim thorn
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Cherry's probably safe because IIUC it is literally two guys and whoever they contract

wind stump
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Hollow Knight

river veldt
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true

wind stump
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oh like, asking if Team Cherry were safe-

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apologies