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random steppe
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Plenty of games do Early Access well

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It got us Hades and Hades 2

green fulcrum
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And BG3

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And D:OS 2

arctic fern
fresh bane
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Walking around night city you can find so many different details

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I found a dead guy on a roof once while I was jumping around roofs trying to get to a mission

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no side quest or anything, just a dead guy

arctic fern
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One thing I like is that there are known Easter eggs, with little stories attached to them, and then there's the tiny details like what's in the vid

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There are dead bodies all around night city

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Theres so much detail in night city
Imagine what the game woukd have looked like if they didn't promise the game on ps...3 was it? 4? I forgor

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They announced the game a decade too early

dense crypt
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there was a secret area i found that was kinda fucked up

arctic fern
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(Also a shitload of mismanagement)

dense crypt
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there was a shack set on top of some other buildings where a guy had eaten himself to death for an XBD

arctic fern
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...woah

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I never saw that one

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Thats wiiiiild

dense crypt
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theres a bunch of bean cans near him and a whole bunch of splatter on the table he was in front of

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i found it when i was parkouring around and was like "yeah this fucking world is hell"

vivid glen
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just going through night city is such a joy

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finished the dlc about 3 months ago

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such a fantastic world

arctic fern
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I did see a little hidden away shack that housed a military vet who snapped and thought he was still at war
Killed civilians thinking they were enemy combatants
Contacted his old CO thinking he was still in charge, and the CO tried to get him to get help but failed and ordered him to commit suicide instead
It was the right call probably, as he woukd have kept killing otherwise

quiet swift
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man, i've played through it twice and I can't think of those things. Clearly I should play again.

arctic fern
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Well that last one is one of those Easter eggs i mentioned, there's guides to help you find them

quiet swift
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ah

dense crypt
arctic fern
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Ye
There are a lot of references
I think i remember a matrix one where someone was trying to escape agents in an office block, was told to jump
I found the story on a body on the ground that had hit several things on the way down lol

dense crypt
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lmfao

river veldt
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i still need to play Cyberpunk 2077

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huh

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according to steam i allegedly have 12 hours in it

vivid glen
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i have a slight urge to play risk of rain

worldly summit
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an appropriate comparison would be Baldur’s Gate right

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wait why is my chat still up in last week

wind stump
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And looking at the Steam reviews, it's way better than the last two

bitter stream
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I booted up a game after a big update, and I forgot how long it takes for it to actually compile shaders lmao.
Estimating off what it's done so far, i've got another 10-20 minutes till it's done, though the game can be played before it's finished

wind stump
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When you just EXUDE CHARISMA to the point where even the enemy compliments you.

vivid glen
vivid glen
wind stump
vivid glen
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i forgot who bought out the game and from what ive seen just made it worse

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its was gearbox

wind stump
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restarting Steam fixed the issue, unsurprisingly

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... right... i'm bad at RoR2

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(and yes of course I use the Prisoner skin for Mercenary, big Dead Cells fan)

vivid glen
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Very nice

vivid glen
wind stump
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SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG REFERENCED pogOjou

fickle garnet
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I just finished Death Stranding 2, it was fucking amazing

green fulcrum
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It's basically Shadow the Hedgehog 2.

wind stump
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i know there's a BALLER ||Metal Overlord|| fight

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(mindless praise aside, from what i've heard it's Sonic Generations with a few more levels to stealth advertise Sonic 3... Which i already watched)

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plus i can't really put more on my backlog

glad girder
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Anyone interested in playing peak at all? Not this exact minute, but I’m looking to fill out my steam friends list a bit more

wind stump
quiet swift
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On one hand, youtuber I usually watch who plays interesting games, has released his video of him playing Dispatch. (A mere 3 hour video).

On the other, I kinda wanna play it myself as I miss the telltale games type, but my backlog is gigantic and i don't wanna spend anything more at the moment...

arctic fern
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Honestly? Pull dispatch higher on the backlog list
Its very much a game that gets ruined by spoilers
And there are a LOT of spoilers

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Its not the longest game out there, 10 hrs or so

fresh bane
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It's not just a telltale game either

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The actual dispatching part of the game is pretty fun too

arctic fern
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Ye

quiet swift
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Doesn't fix the spending side of things though ppenk

vivid glen
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how much is it like 30 bucks?

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if you wait a bit i would like to think it would go onsale for the steam winter sale

quiet swift
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Eh, it's too soon of a release to get a discount, I think

vivid glen
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I would say if you celebrate christmas to ask for it then in the form of a steam gift card

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Like you my back log is filled to much already so i am just gonna pick it up later and hope i dont get spoiled lol

quiet swift
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So far I've managed to avoid everything. I just know that you have two dating options ppenk

mossy flume
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Best Buy had a Black Friday special on PS5 Pros today. So I traded in my PS5 for a Pro. pippwiggle

quiet swift
vivid glen
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very very nice

vivid glen
vivid glen
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sent!

river veldt
quiet swift
fresh bane
river veldt
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what ?

vivid glen
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nvm i am just completely wrong

quiet swift
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Watching sebbywebz's vod of him watching the golden joystick award. First award is storytelling, sandfall/E33 wins. In his speech, the CEO recommends Dispatch

fresh bane
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God dammit this can't be how I find out VTMB2 came out

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I didn't hear anything about this game and that can't be a good sign

river veldt
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i think Yahtzee reviewed it and it didn't sound too good 😔

quiet swift
hasty patio
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There was the first version and then the runners/devs got axed after being years behind, so it went to a new studio and it finally came out.

quiet swift
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Right

quiet swift
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Hee. Once Sandfall won the game of the year at the golden joysticks, first they thanked the team. They had about 8 people on stage, but apparently the rest of the studio was on discord and one person was holding up a phone and showing the audience room 🤣
And then as he was making a speech, he said "We know we are lucky enough to experience all of this, and we wanted to share a deep feeling that we have at sandfall since release, and that's 'what the fuck is happening right now?!' " LUL

uneven epoch
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i (like gen) also dont plan to buy it anytime soon if i decide to get it, but i have a question regarding dispatch; is it ""dumb fun"" or is it like operator 112/911. because while those games are fun to me in concept, turns out the game is way too realistically stressful to me (all fun and games until you get a call from someone trying to commit suicide and dont succeed in stalling them)

fresh bane
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that whole show was.... well, a shitshow

quiet swift
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Yeah I skipped most of it, but I think they more meant 'this is our first game and why are we winning everything?!" type of reaction

fresh bane
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it's super cool when the host is cracking awful jokes and literally going 'yikes' at the end and the crowd increasingly growing louder and louder and talking over the host clearly not giving a single shit rdsnrk

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Troy Baker when he was a host at that show had to literally just look directly at the audience and tell them to shut up because he was so fed up with them talking over him and the nominees all the time

quiet swift
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Pffft

slim thorn
quiet swift
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Damnit, steam starlightwheeze

wind stump
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ain't wrong

vivid glen
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looking through some of the discounts and the fact that the first red red redemption is still more expe sive than the 2nd one grinds my gears

wind stump
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i have hired this Commando to stare at you

vivid glen
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the 4 syringes and meat strapped to his chest is killing me

visual hill
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that reminds me ^

wind stump
bronze abyss
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i dont know how i didnt realise legend levels were already out in dl the beast,just saw the achievement for it without hearing any announcement for it or anything

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i was still under the impression it was in the works

bronze abyss
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so i see the achievement but i cant access it any way in game?

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apparently it is not out yuet just the achievements were released accidentaly

little badger
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Far cry series coming soon

visual hill
worthy rose
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Could be interesting, if done well. #5 was super interesting

cunning galleon
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Wish they actually hire Michael Mando for this

vivid glen
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Not sure if that many people here buy visual novels but the Grisia series is 50% off right now on steam

tiny wigeon
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I don’t want no dang tv show GlimCry

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I want to be a 1 man army and kick ass

quiet swift
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Don't you mean you want to be a one man army and climb radio towers?

wind stump
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tell me you hate bucketheads without saying you hate bucketheads

wind stump
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i dunno why but my 10% winrate in GG Strive is something I'm proud of

arctic fern
wind stump
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yea this I Zombie Endless level was... Something alri NepgearDarkThoughts

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Even the Disco Zombie is kinda cooked by the amount of Gloom Shrooms

arctic fern
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can you even beat it? the digers have their picks taken by magnets, dont they?

wind stump
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Yer, they do. I did beat it I think by using the pole vaulter on the 4th row

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and then I could place a Disco on row 4 to take care of the bottom half

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(i don't remember what i did exactly)

gaunt marten
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One bungie guy and one baby zombie

visual hill
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[sweats in Trackmania]

visual hill
vivid glen
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I'm not quite sure what that means but it looks impressive so congrats!

quiet swift
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Calinou drive guud

vivid glen
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amazing driving skills

vivid glen
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trying to talk about the game awards with anyone in my social social is more annoying than I thought it would be this year lol

quiet swift
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Whyso?

vivid glen
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Just a massive wall of e33 being one of the most overrated games they have ever seen which if they had at least gotten to the halfway point it might not have bother me

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in all honesty its just a silly award show that doesnt really amount to much so i shouldnt really be bothered but

tiny wigeon
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preferably with a slingshot and arrows

random steppe
vivid glen
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unfortunatly i am prone to getting baited so maybe it is time do put it away

quiet swift
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Rage baiting and/or they are being a contrarian because 'it's too popular and i don't like popular stuff" flutterroll

quiet swift
vivid glen
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nah, pretty sure im the only one of my group who knows who he is lol

quiet swift
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'Cause he's been being a dipshit and just ranting about E33 being overrated and how Arc Raiders should be GOTY (not saying it isn't a good game but, what is he smoking..)

vivid glen
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that is a crazy almost batshit take

quiet swift
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And I wouldn't have been surprised if your friend's talking points sounded exactly like his

vivid glen
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LMAO

vivid glen
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personally I love the game and it has sound design that at least to me is almost as good as Hunt Showdown which puts a game up high for me

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but no not game of the year

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i would choose hades or e33 50 times before i picked it

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maybe once i have longer to ait with it i might say its top 5 contender

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at the moment its to soon to tell

quiet swift
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Yeah like I said. It seems to be a good game by what I'm hearing, but it doesn't compare to E33 or many others this year

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(and multiplayer being a minority is such a delusional take, what was he smoking)

vivid glen
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absolutely insane lol

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but its fine, it'll pass any everyone will forget about it in like a week l

fresh bane
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ahhhh just when I'm on saving up money mode cool games like Dispatch and Demonschool come out flutterwaaaugh

vivid glen
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I love that a whole lot actually

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and its cool enough to where I'll check out the game

cunning galleon
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Got lacerated and infected with knox, visited my old body inside a box truck and they died together.. Doomed yuri

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700 zombies tho, new pb

dense crypt
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i really gotta get this game

cunning galleon
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Bro the zombies around this character were all rotting or skeletons

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There were a fuck ton

vivid glen
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its such a fun game

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soon they will be adding new towns, higher buldings and basements

cunning galleon
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Basements wooo

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And higher buildings to jump off from when worse comes to worse

cunning galleon
vivid glen
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amazing

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I tried to take on the rosewood prison with absolutely not enough ammo once

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it uhh didn't end well

cunning galleon
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700 zombies on just low pop muldraugh is crazy ngl

craggy vine
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tf2 cover

arctic fern
little badger
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@bitter stream you can get the founders pack to play early https://youtu.be/3OTXsgACvIA?si=y4H45mlG08DFfCSP

Twin suns rise on a long-awaited day! Founders bundles for Soulframe: Preludes are available now, Envoys. https://slfr.me/founders

Choose to join us and make your mark on Alca to get instant access to Preludes, as well as Wyld Pacts, Armour, and Weapons to aid you on your journey.

Fey blood, steel, and soil entwine anew. Come, Envoy. Step dee...

▶ Play video
bitter stream
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I really don't think I want to get a founders pack for soulframe. It seems cool and all, but I don't think I'll enjoy it long term, besides I barely have time for warframe, I can't imagine doing it again lol

little badger
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Ah

random steppe
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To be fair, if you just want to play the game nowdays you can just watch a soulframe devstream and the have drops with closed beta keys

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Or ask in the official discord, so many keys going around that someone is likely to find you one

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They aren't open yet because the server infrastructure can't quite support that so far, but the play early part isn't really the founder packs draw

bitter stream
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yeah, the real draw of founder packs are usually the one-time cosmetics and feeling like part of building up the game from the start

random steppe
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In this one you also get an exclusive weapon (or 3 I guess if you buy the paragon founder pack) and the ability down the line to generate blueprints to give to other players of that weapon with your name of it

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WHich is kind of an awesome way to do founder only weapons, since they aren't exclusive to founders, but they can give them away freely to other players and they still get recognition for it

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All other stuff is premium currency and cosmetics

bitter stream
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oh that's a neat way to do it

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how's the gameplay looking now days anyway? I never quite understood what the loop was going to be for soulframe

random steppe
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It's been a few preludes since I've played.
Last time there were like 4 pacts and I think there are like 8 or 9 now so my info is probably a bit out of date

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Last time I played i liked the direction but still needed quite a bit of polish.

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Supposedly they are doing updates to the bow weapons this one but I haven't logged in to try them yet

bitter stream
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fair enough! I think I got access last tennocon, might log in at some point just to see how it feels

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though, that's probably a bad idea for my time lmao

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Gets sucked into the Digital Extremes vortex

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Warframes next update isn't too far away either

random steppe
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Yep, and it's looking pretty good

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The game is in an excellent state right now, that they fixed damage attenuation

bitter stream
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Yeah, I haven't tried bosses since the change, does it feel a lot better?

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Well I did effervon tank, but that's sort a weird one anyway

random steppe
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My main gripe was when you got to very high level bosses

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Like 200-400 level it became a 15 minutes slog

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so if you play in normal path it was like, fine, but if you went in steelpath or god forbid Elite Archimedia, it sucked ass, I got to the point that I skipped archemedia if it had an assassination.

bitter stream
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ah yeah like EDA fair enough

random steppe
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Now it's hard because they do a lot of damage, as before, but you are out in like, 3 minutes tops

bitter stream
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that's so much better lol

arctic fern
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there was an attempt to make my oc fila
i did ok i think
hair isnt great but its really a trade off between hat and good hair in the sims

rare dew
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BALD

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(Which i blame entirely on the game engine)

dense crypt
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Snipin's a good job, mate

wind stump
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needs more bisexuality

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yes i know he looks like a Village People reject, that's the point-

quiet swift
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🎵 Young Man! 🎵

visual hill
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I wish more credits screens supported scrolling at your own pace too (e.g. like a web page with a scroll bar, or using keys to speed up/slow down automatic scrolling)

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they're often just a bit too slow for a fast reader like me twilight

dense crypt
wind stump
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I thought the Macho Mann was based on this guy from the Village People

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You don't have to be in the navy to sport aviator glasses and a confident moustache -- also acceptable are cowboy, policeman, native American, construction worker or international mercenary!

arctic fern
# rare dew BALD

not baold, bad angle i suppose
ponytail at the back, short one tho
she has a hughe head of hair in non-hat outfits

wind stump
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i got fucking deleted by a Torgue grenade

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god dammit i need to stop gambling

rare dew
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How is that possible

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X3

quiet swift
wind stump
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ye i got those

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Voxel Wars is like Into the Breach if it was a puzzle game

gaunt marten
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But Into the Breach is a puzzle game

wind stump
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Okay it leans more into the puzzle aspect than roguelite

quiet swift
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Gawd damn

visual hill
quiet swift
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Ah, haven't been able to yet? May I ask why not? cocothink

visual hill
quiet swift
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Fair enough

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Oh cool, they showed what each category's percentage was. On twitter tho so I can't link it. But pretty much every category that E33 was nominated in (and won), it was a similar absolute domination. Not quite as stark as this one but usually 15-20% + leads

visual hill
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sales-wise, RDR1 + RDR2 is starting to be decently cheap (it's cheaper to buy separate on different sites than in a bundle). Around €34 right now

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so I may be able to start those in 2026 too

fresh bane
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Even with the recognition that games like the RE series and Silent Hill have gotten with the remakes they're still survival horrors and survival horror has always been less mainstream than pretty much almost every other genre

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And Clair Obscur hit the mainstream hard I absolutely expect it to win most categories, even if I think F should absolutely win Storytelling

fickle garnet
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I hope I get Silent Hill F as a Christmas gift

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I still need to continue my playthrough of Silent Hill 2

quiet swift
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Nire: Oh these are already finished votes, at least here. Not sure that Game Awards has a storytelling section cocothink

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Ah, narrative

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And it's E33, Death Stranding 2, Yotei, KC:D 2 and silent hill F. Yeah, don't think SH is winning that ppenk

fresh bane
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I know, I meant for the game awards, the golden joysticks already showed a peek at E33's domination in most categories which is probably gonna happen on the game awards too

quiet swift
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Yeah, this year is giga stacked but I think E33's just gonna absolutely dominate - but admittedly aren't the Joysticks more player vote based and Game Awards is a mix of critics and public vote?

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So there might still be upsets

fresh bane
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It doesn't really matter either way, people are going to vote for E33 regardless, and I bet not that many players/game reviewers went through the at least 3 different playthroughs Silent Hill F requires to get the full story, but that's why it should get best narrative, in a fair world anyway

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But the amount of people that played E33 is too big so I already know it just won't win

vivid glen
quiet swift
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I knew it was a high chance byt jesus christ wheeze

mossy flume
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Yeah, I don't see any world in which it doesn't win

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The only question I had was whether GTA6 came out this year or not

fresh bane
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I don't even need to calculate it, the way E33 blew up guaranteed it was going to win GOTY, just seeing how many people that game reached was enough for me to know

mossy flume
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Surprisingly, a bunch of my friends have somehow never heard of E33 and I'm just like... how.

visual hill
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for less than €20 at least

vivid glen
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Good choice

visual hill
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(ideally €15 but that's kind of dreaming for now)

fresh bane
# vivid glen

Base Cyberpunk is not really worth getting, I think getting PL bundled with the Ultimate edition is slightly cheaper

mossy flume
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Yeah just grab Ultimate Edition and call it a day

visual hill
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I try to always buy games in complete edition

fresh bane
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Ultimat Edition is -50% off right now on GOG but it shows up as 27 USD for me

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I'd still get it honestly but if you're aiming for 20 or below it'll maybe go on sale for that low on Steam at some point or something

river veldt
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i still need to play 2077

quiet swift
vivid glen
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winter sale is gonna be soon so expect it to be pretty cheap

visual hill
quiet swift
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Witcher 3 is also what, 10+ years old? ppenk

vivid glen
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dont say those words

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i dont want tot hink about it

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my bones might blow away in the dust lol

mossy flume
vivid glen
fresh bane
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I think it's already been two years since I started it, and a bit around or over a year since I finished all the main quests and I still haven't finished it by doing the final quest

mossy flume
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Yeah, Cyberpunk 2077 is damn good virtuslucarionod

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Especially the expansion

vivid glen
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songbird my beloved

visual hill
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so when it was 7.5 years old

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Cyberpunk 2077 turns 5 next month

slim thorn
visual hill
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of course, inflation and increased development costs are a thing, so I don't expect Cyberpunk 2077 Ultimate Edition to be €10 for a very long time

slim thorn
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I forget, Nire, have you played E33?

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personally I'd struggle to make a choice between SHf and E33 even when it's narrowed down to "story"; they're both so great, yet also both demand a lot from the audience to fully appreciate

fickle garnet
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I need to finish E33, I just struggle to get myself to play it even though I like it

slim thorn
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I only play one RPG every ~3 years, but when I do I finish it CoolDash

fresh bane
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I've only started seeing playthroughs of it and I only got up to the part where || they meet that big guy that can fly || but both times I didn't really keep up with it because I wasn't super interested in it, probably would be more fun to play it myself but I haven't had time to really dig into a new game this year much less an RPG

fickle garnet
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I managed to get myself to finish Death Stranding 2, but I haven't been able to with E33

slim thorn
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ah, then yeah you've seen none of the payoff yet

fresh bane
slim thorn
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I completely skipped over DS2 because there's just too much else going on

fresh bane
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DS2 is nowhere near getting best narrative

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DS2 was fine

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just okay

cunning galleon
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DS2 got my vote because of Pekora and Norman Reedus

fickle garnet
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I enjoyed DS2

fresh bane
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DS2 wasn't bad it just wasn't the insane follow up I expected it to be, it felt less like the sequel that shakes everything up and does something new and felt like more of DS1 instead which isn't inherently bad

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It was simply underwhelming is all

slim thorn
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yeah, I'd probably enjoy DS2 if I did play it, but I already played checks ~70 hours of DS1, so I'm not exactly dying for a "more of the same" sequel rdsnrk

visual hill
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DS2 is definitely on my to-play list, but by the time it's on PC and on a good sale, it'll probably be 3-4 years from now

fresh bane
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It feels kind of bizarre to compare but it felt like what TOTK felt to BOTW, I expected TOTK to be super different and have a completely different narrative focus, but instead it was just more of BOTW in almost every sense, which wasn't inherently bad and definitely didn't make it a bad game, but it still was very underwhelming especially after playing BOTW and if you were expecting it to do more

visual hill
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I was lucky to have someone gift me DS: DC last year, but I haven't played it yet either

fresh bane
visual hill
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(I have DS non-DC from a Epic Games Store giveaway too, but DC is better)

fresh bane
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but as is the case with anything a lot of opinions vary on this, some people really liked DS2

fresh bane
river veldt
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too many gamrs have ds as a acronym

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i thought we were talking avout Dark Souls rdsnrk

slim thorn
fickle garnet
visual hill
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EGS is the only platform where Death Stranding is DRM-free, like a lot of AAA games

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it just doesn't advertise this fact 🙂

fresh bane
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Ehhh I think that and Subnautica were the only games I even had on that account and I don't even have the launcher installed anymore, I think I'm good rdwut but that's still cool, I think at this point it's not gonna get on GOG if the first game isn't there already
who knows, if I ever see DS2 on sale for super low in a couple of years I'll probably snag it, but for now I'm good on Death Stranding

river veldt
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what is drm

mossy flume
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DRM = Digital Rights Management

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It's a system for copyright protection of software or data

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In the case of games, it's a program that validates that you own a legitimate copy of that game. It will block the game from running otherwise.

fresh bane
fresh bane
# river veldt what is drm

It's when you open a game and it has to open Steam and launch the game from Steam before you open the game

arctic fern
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Drm is anti-piracy measures

river veldt
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OOOH ok i get it now

fresh bane
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DRM-free means you can just play it and it just runs without needing anything extra like just playing it off a CD

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like a dinosaur

arctic fern
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Cds had DRM tho

fresh bane
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dammit

mossy flume
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Needing to have the CD in the drive was itself DRM

fresh bane
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my cool analogy is useless now

mossy flume
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Being able to run the game without the CD in the drive is DRM-free.

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Usually

river veldt
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so why do people want drm free versions of games ?

slim thorn
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yeah, despite the D being "digital", DRM has been around long before digital distribution

arctic fern
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You often had cds with 16 digits codes printed inside the box, usually in the paper manual, that you had to type in when you installed the game

arctic fern
visual hill
arctic fern
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Its inconvenience on people who own legitimate copies

visual hill
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(it also starts faster, no launcher needed)

slim thorn
fresh bane
# river veldt so why do people want drm free versions of games ?

I'm tired of modern video games being shut down from pointless server requirements and wanted to help the cause to spread the word that we might be able to do something about it. It also made me wonder, how many of my physical games are now dead? It was a lot more than I thought it would be.

Go to: https://www.stopkillinggames.com/
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This is a good video on the topic

slim thorn
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things like wanting to transfer a game to a new PC but not being allowed to because it's "installed on too many devices" or whatver

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and people who were used to selling their games after playing them of course can't do that any more

visual hill
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but here, it's the former

fresh bane
slim thorn
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and the infamous always-online DRM in single-player games

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my impression is that talk of the anti-DRM issue peaked in the early 10s, in my world especially when SimCity (2013) released with always-online DRM and [Everybody Hated That]

mossy flume
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Yeah

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It got better after that.

slim thorn
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and that it's declined in relevance since then because monetization issues became a far worse problem to talk about

mossy flume
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Diablo III's issues, too

slim thorn
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and also because if you aren't playing live service or multiplayer games, most of the DRM you'll encounter is super lightweight stuff like Steam DRM that I've never heard of causing serious problems in practice

mossy flume
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Couldn't play offline single player because their DRM servers were broken for several days

slim thorn
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oh and also because kernel-level anti-cheat became another significantly worse problem for the multiplayer people

fresh bane
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I've noticed that's been the trend with videogames since microtransactions and lootboxes became an issue

slim thorn
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ok I'm done

fresh bane
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People make a fuss about it, but then something worse comes around, so people tolerate the previous thing to focus on the new thing

slim thorn
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anyone want to go back to complaining that E33 won too many awards

mossy flume
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What is the problem that it provides?
I've seen it expose a security vulnerability exactly once.

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And that was patched quickly.

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What are the complaints with kernel-level anticheat otherwise?

mossy flume
river veldt
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E33 is winning too many awards

slim thorn
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I don't have a horse in that race but I feel like it's mainly the fundamental trust issue, and that one time it broke a lot of peoples' machines

mossy flume
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Oh? When did that happen?

gaunt marten
slim thorn
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I certainly don't trust any of the companies using kernel-level anti-cheat enough to install it on my systems, but they also aren't making any of the games I care about so it's not like they care what I think

river veldt
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my GotY is Dispatch anyways

fresh bane
mossy flume
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Huh, I haven't heard of this

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...I haven't heard about League of Legends in a LOOONG time, actually

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Is that still popular?

river veldt
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i think so

mossy flume
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What is Riot even up to these days

gaunt marten
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TV

mossy flume
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Heh, true

quiet swift
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Selling Hytale back to its creators*ppenk

slim thorn
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after Arcane finished, I only hear about LoL from the recurring jokes, since no one I talk to frequently plays it

mossy flume
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Yeah, Arcane finished and I haven't heard of League ever since

fresh bane
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It always depends from system to system but there were a lot of reports of Vanguard messing with people's drivers or other softwares that it considered to not be safe, I think the most recent example that was really funny was it didn't allow some people to install or launch BF6, basically both games' anti-cheats really hate each other
and that's another complaint about anti cheats which is just the inconvenience of it, some games' anti-cheats will only boot up when the game launchers and then close when the game closes, but Vanguard requires to launch at the same time as the system itself, and it will continue to run after you exit League, so if you wanna play League or 2XKO, you gotta restart that computer or have Vanguard running at all times

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which a lot of people obviously don't want to do

fresh bane
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I stopped playing before Vanguard got introduced though

visual hill
mossy flume
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The thing with the anticheat outcry though is that people were absolutely furious over the flood of cheaters in online games.
Do people prefer that over the solution to that problem?

gaunt marten
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They are not the only options. I'd rather developers take the hard way and engineer games in ways that are hard to cheat without spying

visual hill
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anticheats don't really do a great job at reducing cheating in my experience, even the more intrusive one

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community moderation has historically been the #1 way to prevent cheating (and other abusive behavior, like toxicity)

fresh bane
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I think asking people ''well, would you rather have cheaters in your game?'' is a bit of a tricky question because of course people are gonna say no, but I also don't wanna give you that level of access to my system either

visual hill
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things all went downhill when matchmaking made it so the community no longer moderated itself

gaunt marten
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Right, it's not a dichotomy — there are more tradeoffs

slim thorn
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anecdotally, it does feel like whether a multiplayer game has a cheater problem has no correlation whatsoever to how much anti-cheat stuff it has, but that's just a vibe

visual hill
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also, I find it interesting that for all its faults, Overwatch 2 doesn't have an anticheat nearly as intrusive as e.g. Valorant. It plays on Linux fine, it won't try to ban you randomly for trying to play it on Linux too

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popularity = cheaters, usually

quiet swift
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Yeah, most of the complaints about the anticheat is how it was a Root-style anticheat, I believe? Or whatever the term is

visual hill
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the link is pretty direct

slim thorn
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"kernel-level" is the term I'm used to

visual hill
quiet swift
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Ah, that's the term

slim thorn
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(probably because "root" is a Linux concept and this stuff tends to be Windows-first?)

mossy flume
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I’ve observed markedly less cheating in these games than previously, anecdotallyOriShrug

fresh bane
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There's also the fact that cheaters can also bypass kernel level anti-cheats, of course the goal is to just make it really difficult but the fact remains, people can still get around it
I've seen a lot of people say ''well I never got any cheaters in my matches after Vanguard got implemented to League'', but I played League for 12 years and I also never encountered a single cheater so those types of arguments are always really finnicky

mossy flume
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The dedicated cheaters use external hardware solutions

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Which are unsolvable

visual hill
slim thorn
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oh true

visual hill
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if I run a program with sudo, it's still in user space

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to get something to run in kernel space, it needs to be a kernel module

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(or on Windows, a driver)

mossy flume
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The other option is a heuristics approach which determines if you’re just too good at the game or not.
Fuck you if you’re just naturally talented, though.

quiet swift
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One of the youtubers I watch occasionally does videos of trying to figure out if a player in League is a cheater, or just straight up mocking how some valorant cheaters / cheat creators are streaming and then get banned live

visual hill
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the main sources of cheating (ways to get more info than normal, macros, etc) aren't super obvious, except on a detailed VOD review

quiet swift
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You have to go through replays and slow it down, usually. Two easy ways to tell is if the cheater shoots at you despite being out of sight/in a hidden zone, or if the character moves to dodge an attack the millisecond the animation starts, not when the shot is fired (at the end of the animation)

fresh bane
visual hill
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I play Trackmania and catching cheaters took a surprisingly long time

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some cheated records took over 10 years to be caught

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(the investigation on riolu brought light to his slow motion approach, people have been doing this since 2008 at least)

quiet swift
fresh bane
quiet swift
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Video's an example of what I was talking about 🙂

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(and that content creator is pretty funny, him and his gaming group)

fresh bane
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I think when you get to the point where each games' anti-cheats are devouring each other and asking you to uninstall other games because they refuse to run otherwise is when it gets to the point where I would consider it a big problem

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which is what happened with League and Battlefield 6

slim thorn
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ah, I knew I was forgetting some examples

visual hill
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anticheats are also problematic for developers, they often require disabling Hyper-V, shutting down VirtualBox VMs that may be running or uninstalling some utilities

fresh bane
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I'm reading similar examples of games like Infinity Nikki and Elden Ring's anti cheats also clashing with each other

mossy flume
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The only issue I had with B6 was Windows’ strict memory protection preventing it from running. (This is not the default setting)

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Never had one ask me to kill Hyper-V or other VM technology

visual hill
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WSL2 needs Hyper-V too, so you can't use it anymore

mossy flume
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I’ve certainly had issues with DRM, but not anticheat software (except B6, as mentioned)

mossy flume
visual hill
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competitive gaming service, mostly used for CS2

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I used it a little back in the CS:GO days

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it used to be preferred for its faster servers (128 tick), but now it's just preferred because it has fewer cheaters at a high level

mossy flume
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Ah, that's one of those games I haven't touched in like 15 years

fresh bane
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It's a shame about Vanguard because the prospect of a League of Legends fighting game was incredibly appealing to me, but alas still uses Vanguard on PC, and despite how much I'd love to play that I'm not gonna put up with the annoyance (and potential hindrance) that is Vanguard rdwut
honestly this is the kind of use I'd give to something like the Steam Machine, because I'm definitely not a console player, but I wouldn't care about anti cheat if I had a dedicated gaming device

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so that thing might be good for anyone who feels similarly to me

visual hill
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Vanguard for a fighting game seems odd, fighting games don't have a lot of ways to cheat in other than macros

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(the game is deterministic, it'll desync if you try to change your character's frame data to give yourself an advantage)

fresh bane
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FighterZ used Easy Anti Cheat I think, so a fighting game having an anti cheat wasn't that weird to me, I just am not going to put up with Vanguard's specific way of doing things at all

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SF6 and Strive don't have anti cheats that I know of though

graceful bridge
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The Steam Client Beta has been updated with the following changes: General The Steam client is now 64-bit on Windows 11 and Windows 10 64-bit. Systems running 32-bit versions of Windows will continue receiving updates to the 32-bit Steam client until January 1, 2026. Game Recording Fixed errors copying to clipboard or exporting H265 videos on sy...

visual hill
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at long last!!

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32-bit is being EOL pretty soon too

mossy flume
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Valve loves to stave off these things until the operating systems publish EOL/hard-block notices

sacred grove
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Now do the Linux client next, valve

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Wine switched properly over to 64-bit (as in, being able to run 32-bit apps on a 64-bit wine) fairly recently, but Steam is the only remaining thing that litters your Linux distro with 32-bit libraries

bronze abyss
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I do hope linux continues to support 32bit at least in some form for a long while. Quite a few games I play are still only 32 bit

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I'm sure they will

sacred grove
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I don't think you have to worry. The Steam client being 64-bit is seperate from what kind of games it can run

mossy flume
hasty patio
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No shit they are. Why spend up to 100% extra when you can just wait a year and get the best at one price that tends to be better overall.

fresh bane
# mossy flume https://bsky.app/profile/eurogamer.bsky.social/post/3m6ljvrzzol2p

If people have limited income and you literally always release an upgraded version of your game then it's a smart idea to wait. It's pretty obvious. Even games with season passes massively benefit from waiting, you can get the game + season pass for launch price on sale. Look at KCD2.

-# Eurogamer (@eurogamer.bsky.social)
Sega has admitted sales of its games may be lower-than-expected due to players awaiting "definitive editions" before buying. bit.ly/4imXUqA

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hasty patio
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For other systems, a lot of games are incorporating DLC until the base game, so they don't have to keep up numerous editions.

fresh bane
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Lately videogames are giving people absolutely zero reason to actually get a game on launch, not only are there hundreds of games on like 80% of people's backlogs to keep them busy for a while but also with the constant updates a lot of the times you're not even getting the actual complete definitive experience until sometimes months after the game comes out (sometimes even years, look at Cyberpunk)
So yeah, I'm waiting to buy a game rdlol

mossy flume
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Indeed. Also I’m not sure why Eurogamer would be pitching this observation as “admitting” anything.

hasty patio
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It's clickbait for everyone but the folks that need to hear/see it.

quiet swift
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I really do want to play Metaphor, but yeah. p4g and p5r make me suspect that something is coming, so i gottta wait 🙁

mossy flume
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SEKTORI
Sektori is an intense, fast paced twin-stick shooter infused with hard hitting techno music. Choose your upgrades carefully and create powerful builds to take on the relentless enemies and epic bosses on a constantly evolving battlefield. Sektori is a game that requires your complete focus, a game where the high-adrenaline visuals, mus…

Price

$14.99

Recommendations

121

Metacritic

93

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Remember Geometry Wars? Well, someone did and realized we should probably do that again.

minor gorge
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A long time since I played that. Is neat. lurk

astral steeple
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Huh Apparently the epic games store has gifting games and add-ons now

mossy flume
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Palworld has just reached Overwhelmingly Positive in both the All-Time and Recent reviews categories on Steam.

vivid glen
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A little surprised by that

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then again i haven't tried it recently since all the updates

arctic fern
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it crashed yesterday and apparently i didnt save anything

gaunt marten
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That sucks

wind stump
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My wife threw out my card collection (So i bought a dump to find them all) has a surprisingly fire OST

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But credit for making 11 songs themed around dumpster diving for cards HEFSAmeWheeze

bitter stream
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the game is about dumpster diving?

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how does that work lol

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also that's one Isekai styled name

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oh, it's AI gen music, but they refused to disclose it

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T_T

proud warren
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Went from beeb_happy to beeb_weird in seconds with that info

bitter stream
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yeahhh

wind stump
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oof.

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nvm then

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explains the mixed rating

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Oh well, pirated it anyway HEFSAmeWheeze KoishiOK

bitter stream
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fair enough hahah

wind stump
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Was going to buy it because it's 40% off but ehhh

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i'll save the investment for of The Devil

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Nothing wrong with AI genned music (in my opinion) but not disclosing it is a big ethical oof

arctic fern
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Theres nothing inherently wrong with AI itself. My issue is how ethically it us being used, by stealing human art and turning it into slop, then claiming it as your own

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In my opinion

bitter stream
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they also didn't pay to use peoples music in the generation

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lmao

arctic fern
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Eeeexactly

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Example: James earl Jones selling his voice to Disney to train an ai
I don't like it still, but that is at least above board, legal and not theft

wind stump
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Yeah, if more people tried to used it ethically, I wouldn't have to preclarify "Well I don't hate the idea of it inherently."

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Unfortunately, Gaming Sucks!

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forest shoal
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This is why I only play games on systems that were released before the world ended

astral steeple
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All ai generated pictures and videos and music is good for is shitposts and other dumb stuff

Like a country song about a guy who falls in love with a grilled cheese sandwich lmao

forest shoal
astral steeple
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No I meant like an actual grilled cheese sandwich

The food

forest shoal
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I can't believe you would grill him

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And besides, you can just ask him to make the song for you

astral steeple
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lol

arctic fern
astral steeple
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I've dabbled a bit with suno for like a year now just to have it come up with some of the most off the wall songs

A lot of which ended up being good catchy songs on the first generation

forest shoal
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This thing is very pretty

cerulean herald
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wonder what triggered that

mossy flume
# arctic fern Example: James earl Jones selling his voice to Disney to train an ai I don't li...

Yeah. I do like that he did that, allowing his iconic voice to keep the character of Vader going.

But I agree. As much as I really like AI technologies, I’m also of the camp that it must be used responsibly. If a model is being specifically trained to imitate someone’s likeness or specificity tuned to their unique style, some sort of legal framework should probably be in place. The way Disney and James Earl Jones did that is a good example of keeping things straightforward and honest.

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There are unsettled legal issues and questions regarding whether training general models on materials counts as fair use or not. Those questions have yet to get to the court system. But models specifically meant to imitate something specific, I can buy there are clearer legal issues there.

mossy flume
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(Of course, it starts to get interesting once you tabulate all the collective user-facing prompts of generative AI models. Collectively that’s a good amount of energy.)

slim thorn
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do we know the cost of e.g. the non-LLM parts of a single google search?

gaunt marten
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Yes

mossy flume
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Probably a lot cheaper, I’d wager. But then again, it does involve a ton of servers responding to your query.

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But yeah, I’d bet money on it being cheaper by multiple orders of magnitude

slim thorn
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I wonder how the web crawling part compares

mossy flume
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Ohhh, interesting question. I’ve never thought of that

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I’d still bet on it being quite a lot cheaper. Training AI models is expensive as heck.

gaunt marten
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Google operates at a large enough scale that many of the fixed costs are amortized away

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And the per-search or per-crawl costs are minimal

bronze abyss
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im super disappointed,dying light the beast just got the NG+ and legend levels update but im stuck at 0 hp and stamina when i start the ng+ and keep death looping when i spawn in,i cant do anything at all

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i was waiting since game's release for this and i cant even play it

wind stump
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That's impressively shitty!

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i got about two words into this before giving up

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Guessing it's something like "THE RETRIBUTION IS AT HAND" or something

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Interesting that one of the Not 4chan threads foreshadows events later in the game ASThink

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Hindsight is fun Ehehe

wind stump
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I'm like 90% sure this is a Deus Ex reference

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Specifically with the nod to Hong Kong

slim thorn
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maybe, this particular screenshot alone doesn't feel that specific, but I'd be surprised if nothing in this game was a Deux Ex reference rdsnrk

wind stump
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A lot of Human Revolution at least centers on augmentations

slim thorn
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well yes I mean it's far from the only franchise with cybernetic augmentations

wind stump
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And one of the missions in the original does take you to Hong Kong

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But yea, less blatant than "I'D BUY THAT FOR A DOLLAR" or Mr. Donovan

slim thorn
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oh, I completely forgot there was a guy named Donovan in Deus Ex

wind stump
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I... thought he was a Spiderman reference, with the fact he runs a paper and has the triple aliteration name

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-# i mean, could be both

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Subtle as a brick

slim thorn
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who knows lol, I'm not in context for it right now

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ok that is definitely a reference rdsnrk

wind stump
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Going by the swimsuits and southern california... Baywatch, maybe?

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Iris and Dana worked together in Sukeban Games' point-and-click game Sales Pitch, and currently owns and operates the N1-RV Ann-A bar. She is described by Dana as a "red-headed, glasses wearing gun nut"
Hey, another game that ties into the greater canon and- PAIN

quiet swift
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These are the newest real time strategy game releases and news about upcoming ones, including a look at playable demos, playtests, mods and other interesting news about our favorite strategy genre in 2025, my fellow RTS fans. Learn about Crimson Freedom, Sanctuary: Shattered Sun, Ashes of the Singularity II and Falling Frontier update.

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Snrrrrk. So the video starts with a new rts called "crimson freedom". Narrator says something about how it looks like it'll be an APM heavy game.

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Direct quote from dev rdsnrk

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[I'm in this picture but I do like it]

quiet swift
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Followed by "but if you do play fast then you'll trash those guys in multiplayer". GOod, i don't do multiplayer 😛

green fulcrum
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Ooooooo.........still expensive as hell (mostly because it includes all the DLC too), but 30% off is still decent for a relatively new title.

Should I wait until the winter sale? Idk if it'll be on sale then or not.

gaunt marten
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It's never been on sale before

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I recommend waiting multiple years until it goes on significant enough sale

green fulcrum
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I know you're right

gaunt marten
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Odds are, if you wait until the winter sale it will go on another 30% sale

uneven epoch
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persona games are all on sale, my backlog is a bit big rn so ill wait but like, if u wanna complete ur collection or lose a couple houndred hours or stuff

gaunt marten
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I'm waiting for Royal to go on a 90% sale but I'm excited

quiet swift
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I am extremely eyeing P3R

uneven epoch
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this is its biggest sale so far yea

quiet swift
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That and Metaphor might/might not have a 'full' version, we don't know yet, so it's the better buy cocothink

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..screw it, i'm grabbing p3r

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my wishlist is like 180 games, but that's #3 so it's worth it rdwut

uneven epoch
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ah, i dont rlly use the intended function as actual ranking penk

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lazy

slim thorn
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I've never ordered my wishlist because for me it's more about which type of game I'm in the mood for than whether it had slightly higher vibes than the other game on the day I added it

quiet swift
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I order maybe the first 20-30 or so, because I also used to swap game codes from working at EA for some other games, and the top 20-30 were the ones I most wanted rdsnrk

random steppe
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They really come off as loving gaming deeply, it's so nice to see them win stuff, and Dispatch was robbed as far as game awards nominations this year so it's good it's getting highlighted in other ways

quiet swift
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Did they make the deadline for game awards? Wondering if it'll appear next year cocothink

slim thorn
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iirc Dispatch was nominated in "best debut indie"

quiet swift
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Ah

green fulcrum
slim thorn
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E33?

wind stump
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Eeeeeee

quiet swift
green fulcrum
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It's not as prestigious as the Game Awards, but the Steam Awards are still nothing to sneeze at.

slim thorn
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interesting

green fulcrum
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And Dispatch, from what I can tell, really does offer a very unique experience compared to most other CYOA games

slim thorn
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I never play "management" games so I have no idea how unique that aspect of Dispatch is

green fulcrum
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It's not just a management game

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It's also TellTale-esque

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And its story is like a show

wind stump
slim thorn
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...I'm aware rdsnrk

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let me spell that out the long way

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I've played several narrative choice games including actual Telltales

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so I know that aspect of Dispatch is pretty much exactly how "they used to make 'em" (not in a bad way, just familiar and well-executed)

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so the management part was the one I can't vouch for the mechanical originality of

rugged flax
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eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee BatAwkwardDance

slim thorn
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it was a response to your "unique gameplay" comment

cerulean herald
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E33 is the successor to E3 if u really think about it

green fulcrum
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And that is what got Dispatch my vote

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Because it blends each aspect of the game seamlessly, and makes it look like an interactive movie/show that still feels like an actual game.

slim thorn
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that's fair, it's certainly a novel combination

green fulcrum
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That's very hard to pull off

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They deserve a good win, at least one.

slim thorn
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and they do a great job of shaking up the management mechanics as much as they possibly can to reflect what's happening in the narrative

green fulcrum
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Exactly

slim thorn
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but for me that "I've seen all these pieces before but this combination really achieves some unique emergent property I've never seen before" also applies just as much to E33

green fulcrum
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Yes, but I already nominated E33 for several awards in both the Steam Awards and the Game Awards, so I wanted to give one to Dispatch.

slim thorn
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of course I also have not played nearly enough JRPGs (or management games) to tell if that's just because I didn't try to be a genre expert, it could be a weird me thing

green fulcrum
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Because Dispatch deserves recognition too

slim thorn
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at least I've yet to see anyone else describe E33 as "the first time I ever liked a turn-based combat system, instead of merely tolerating it"; that exact wording probably is just me

uneven epoch
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im just happy kcd II got a mention at all

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big w for a czech game we dont get to international stage all that much

slim thorn
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and there you hit on the point I was originally trying to make

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I haven't played any of the BGs

green fulcrum
uneven epoch
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yeah but like, lol lmao to anyone who thinks itll actually win anything

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so yay for mentions

green fulcrum
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And I know one major RPG youtuber who considers it his personal GOTY, even above E33

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(MortismalGaming, great guy, super relaxed and passionate about RPGs.)

quiet swift
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I think it might be a contender in more things than expected, a lot of comments I see on various reddit or article posts usually boil down to E33, Silksong and KCD2

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Hades 2 as well but I think it being in early access for a year + kinda knocked the wind out of its sails

slim thorn
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it's wild that this year is so stacked that the first great Silent Hill game in decades has gotten so overshadowed you can talk about the award nominees for hours without mentioning it

uneven epoch
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its a bit surprising to me that silksong isnt completely dominant, i mean. its the silksong you know?

slim thorn
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also Silksong yeah

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also Hades 2 yeah

uneven epoch
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maybe the meme went so far ppl arent aware its out? penk

slim thorn
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pretty sure it's not that, seemingly everyone in the target audience has been playing it

green fulcrum
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Usually Nintendo sweeps

slim thorn
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like I get people putting E33 above Silksong

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as excellent as Silksong is, it's very similar to the first HK, and the influence of HK has already permeated its genre

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E33's the one that's going to influence how games are made in the future

green fulcrum
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It's fantastic, but for some, it might not have been worth the wait

quiet swift
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Posting it again just to show the absolute madness this year has been. I think some of the legendary years in gaming were what, 1997 and 2008? This is up there with them.

river veldt
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didn't Silksong literally crash steam

slim thorn
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it did

quiet swift
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Steam, GOG, everywhere it was lol

green fulcrum
slim thorn
quiet swift
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Though MH:W on there is a bit... awkward

green fulcrum
quiet swift
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I think this is a list of good games this year, despite any 'issues' they might have

river veldt
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what kind of game is KCDII anyways ? is it like the Witcher

slim thorn
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yesn't

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is bringi still here?

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guess not

green fulcrum
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It's kinda like Skyrim, Witcher, etc.

slim thorn
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the first big difference is that KCD2 has no fantasy elements, it's historical fiction, specifically medieval times in the Kingdom of Bohemia / Czech Kingdom

green fulcrum
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RPG, but not turn-based

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Also, no fantasy. Completely historical

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Lol, dang it Ix

river veldt
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oh interesting

slim thorn
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but yes it is an open world RPG with real-time combat that's primarily hack-and-slash

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I have not played it myself so that's as far as I can go

green fulcrum
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Same, I like turn-based more than real-time.

uneven epoch
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sorry i was voting steam awards bc i forgot i didnt do that

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but yeah, kcd II is similar to witcher 3 in ways like "action rpg" and "theres stats" and "intricate side quests" and "cinematic cutscenes" and "funny protagonist with set personality and story"

gaunt marten
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I found a sealed crate of bottles of captain cat's black rum. Upon sampling it this cat spawned in my boat

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If you have a catspeak amulet, it says Sailing cat: Wow, I'm really at sea!

slim thorn
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I want this to be a Flow reference but I don't think it is

uneven epoch
# slim thorn but yes it is an open world RPG with real-time combat that's primarily hack-and-...

ill dispute hack and slash a little bit bc that term kinda implies you can swing wherever however, which will get your butt kicked and stabbed. kcd's thing™ is you have directions affecting your swings. if you're in a sword duel and your opponent is swinging left, block from the right and then transition to their ungarded side, that sorta stuff. theres ripostes, dodging, combos, master strikes, all mechanics you can and will have to utilize, bc unlike geralt you are not a sponge for damage. you will die quick. armor goes only so far, especially if archer hits you in your face or your opponent knows how to swing a mace. more than three people running towards you? fear. fear. skedaddle. you still have options, in II there's early gun-canons™ theyre clunky as fuck and slow and inaccurate and personally i hate them but they are devastating. crossbows are there for when you suck at bow, they are slower but more powerful (the intention was probably also easier to use but personally i preferred bows, i blame kcd I for makin me git gud and i couldnt seem to get used to crossbows slightly different aiming system). sorry, what were we talking about? oh yeah, so multiple weapons but no magic (tho long swords remain dev's special babies with most care). unless you count getting so drunk you hallucinate a talking dog judging your life choices magic

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oh yeah you have dog aiding you in combat, i think geralt has just the horse? i havent played witcher 3 personally

slim thorn
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yeah the horses in W3 are just for transport

uneven epoch
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oh i see, you can teach kcd II horses some combat stuff

random steppe
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Also the horese doesn't aid you, s/he hinders you

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(roach memes are the best part of W3, and W3 is pretty good)

uneven epoch
river veldt
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Roach my beloved

uneven epoch
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pebbles starts with bad stats and npcs do in fact shit talk her constantly. you just gotta stick with her for some amount ridden (30 kilemeters to be exact), then she gets a perk and her stats are boosted

quiet swift
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me: buys P3R.
me: starts my steam deck to install it there.
Deck, picks a random startup animation: HI I CHOSE METAPHOR
me: ...are you questioning my purchase, Deck?!

slim thorn
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oh, like the Fire Emblem characters that start out useless but supposedly have amazing growth values if you can be bothered to level them up?

uneven epoch
quiet swift
river veldt
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i still just use the default deck startup

quiet swift
uneven epoch
random steppe
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Witcher will never not have the soul of an eurojank title, no matter how much you polish it.
That's just how it is

river veldt
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eurojank ?

uneven epoch
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eurojank :3

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yeah kcds are those too

slim thorn
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it's pretty rare for an open world game to not have visible jank of some flavor

uneven epoch
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II to a lot lesser degree than I admittedly, but still eurojank

quiet swift
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"Eurojank" is a slang term for European-developed video games that are ambitious and deep but lack polish, often due to a tight budget"

uneven epoch
random steppe
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IT's a term that was coined around the time of the Gothic series popularity, basically lots of ambitious European devs at the time made ambitious RPGs (usually medieval RPGs, Witcher 1 is an example for sure) on very tight budgets with very interesting results

uneven epoch
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you can tell its late usually id get it immediately

slim thorn
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oh, is "Roach" a pun?

random steppe
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They aren't good, but they are rarely uncreative

slim thorn
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I've always heard that name has different connotations in the original language...

quiet swift
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Launch day Cyberpunk was S tier eurojank rdsnrk

uneven epoch
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"polish it". witcher is polish.

wind stump
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Is slavjank not acceptable anymore? ASThink

slim thorn
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oh

random steppe
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It was a reluctant pun

slim thorn
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see this is why I hate riddles

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I'm trapped below the skill floor

river veldt
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why is this the first picture that comes up when you google witcher roach

uneven epoch
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representative

quiet swift
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Because that's his default state of being

wind stump
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'Cus I mean, Eurojank sounds fair, but I'm far more familiar with slavjank

slim thorn
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it wasn't when I played, but I've never been the type to provoke bugs

random steppe
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Why does this have 10 views

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This is great

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I was looking for another video

wind stump
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maybe the name

random steppe
river veldt
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what the hell is she doing

random steppe
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Her code is perfect, I wouldn't change a word

river veldt
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does Witcher have an independent wiki

slim thorn
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no idea

gaunt marten
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It does not

river veldt
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damn

mossy flume
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The Everdrive 64's compatibility with the Analogue 3D has been fixed via a firmware update for the ED64. pippwiggle

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Although apparently in order to make it work, you need to first run the Everdrive 64 on an original N64 console for the purpose of updating the bootloader during runtime. rdwut

glad girder
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what are your thoughts on the steam deck price reduction

gaunt marten
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I like when things are cheaper

glad girder
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I'm thinking of getting it but I need to get plane tickets to visit my mom figured out first

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there's supposed to be a 20% cashback offer from paypal for pay in four I want to use but I can't find it :c

orchid sundial
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what games do you recommend that are on ps5

fickle garnet
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I've heard Astro Bot is good

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Same with Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart

vivid glen
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Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart

slim thorn
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I can vouch for Rift Apart being just as fun as the classic R&Cs

vivid glen
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fun and it has rivet in its so its automatically great

fickle garnet
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I would say Death Stranding, but I know you're not huge on mature rated games

astral steeple
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Spiderman remastered and Spiderman 2

fickle garnet
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Those are good choices too

quiet swift
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Hmm. LTT just released a vid about what they estimate the steam machine will cost. They're thinking absolute bare minimum is probably 699, likely between that and 799 unless some huge market problem emerges between now and release (ie ram prices getting even worse)

orchid sundial
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will ram prices ever go down?

fickle garnet
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Ram prices scare meizzystare

mossy flume
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I’m also theorizing about $800

mossy flume
minor plover
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for those of you who know the game Euchre: I'm derping around vs bots while decompressing from a busy Thanksgiving and I got this hand

mossy flume
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This RAM price spike is temporary

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It will take some time to normalize, but it will

quiet swift
mossy flume
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No more than $1200

quiet swift
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Anything above 1000 would be DOA, imo

mossy flume
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I could see it being north of $1k, but $800 target is reasonable, if ambitious

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The only reason why I’m not ruling out sub-1K is because if the 8GB of VRAM

fickle garnet
quiet swift
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dead on arrival

mossy flume
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Dead on Arrival

fickle garnet
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Oh I see

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I always forget acronymsppenk

quiet swift
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699 would be fantastic, 799 is most likely, 899 is I think still acceptable to most gamers, 999 I think is pushing it for most gamers but the psychology of 'hey it's under 1k!' might still work. Anything 4 digits I think is enough for people, especially nowadays, to balk

fickle garnet
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I think it'll be around 800 usd probably

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Hopefully

mossy flume
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Eh, I still consider "PC prices" to be 4 digits and the realm of consoles to exclusively dominate 3 digits, but shrug

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We'll see

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We can push a lot out of them these days

orchid sundial
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im just going to get my games on ps5 digital

mossy flume
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I agree that it'll be a tough sell above 800

fickle garnet
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I just hope the steam frame is reasonably priced

mossy flume
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But honestly, people are going to complain regardless of what it's priced as

quiet swift
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Yeah, people who think it'll be console priced are delusional. It's expressly a console shaped PC, with all the versatility that brings that consoles do not have

fickle garnet
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I'm not that interested in the steam machine, I'm fine with my desktop, so the price doesn't matter to me all that much

mossy flume
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Yep

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I already have my own "steam machine" that I built myself, so this device would be a strict downgrade aside from the nice benefit of being able to wake it with a controller.

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I am potentially interested in the headset though

quiet swift
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Same, I want it more for the "ooh, shiny!" side of things as my desktop is probably stronger, and the convenience of couch playing and whatnot

fickle garnet
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Me too

quiet swift
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Headset looks great but I'd love to be able to try it out in advance somewhere. I get motion sick in cars so I suspect projectile vomit if I try VR 🤢

fickle garnet
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I'd rather get a steam deck than the steam machine, personally

quiet swift
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Already have one! rdwut

fickle garnet
mossy flume
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I would like a Steam Deck 2 at some point

fickle garnet
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If I get the Steam Frame, I am definitely also getting the wrist strap accessory. Assuming they sell them separately, that is

sacred grove
quiet swift
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s'what I got, the 1tb oled

river veldt
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i was reading about The Witcher on Wikipedia and this cover of one of the books is hilarious

quiet swift
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Man, that's like 1980s movies posters

tranquil tartan
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That does look like a nsfw meme face for sure 😂 😂 😂

vivid glen
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thankfully since i dont plan to play many graphic entensive games on my deck it should last me for a while

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as of now its mostly to help me clear up games from my backlog

quiet swift
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XASAd2lxzzg okay, posted it in the e33 channel but also here because even the first few minutes is already interesting. Apparently shortly after the release of the game, something like 50 production companies contacted Sandfall saying "Something is happening with E33's music, do you guys wanna do a concert?" ajgasp

Step behind the scenes of the Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 “A Painted Symphony” concerts. We wanted to honour this journey by documenting how so many passionate, talented people were brought together to bring these concerts to life.

Thank you to everyone who made the French Concert Series possible. Being able to bring our music to so many o...

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quiet swift
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"For those who come after... we restock the toilet paper, okay? 🚽"

craggy vine
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I like the steam machine, but it's also like, if you know how to install anything aside from windows, you have been able to do the exact same thing for many years. Maybe one with better specs, or make one even cheaper.

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It's more for the kind of people who would buy a pre-built PC or a console and don't know how to install an OS really, so like, it isn't really for me specifically.

mossy flume
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I can’t imagine how weird yet staggeringly exciting it must have been for them to get the reception they did.

quiet swift
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That was for the France tour, but they've since announced a European tour

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Oh, you saw that in the other channel already meowlul

glad girder
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I'm thinking I need to buy Clair Obscur Expedition 33

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that and a steam deck

quiet swift
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E33 deserves to be played on a large screen

glad girder
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I have an ultrawide monitor a foot away from my face, I can get the peak experience

quiet swift
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Good good

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...I wanna play it on an imax screen cocothink rdwut

vivid glen
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ai was thinking about getting an ultrawide sometime in the future

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have 3 monitors and it would be nice to condense it down to one

glad girder
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What the fuck apparently I was wanting to buy a steam deck 4 years ago ponee

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Life and time and escaping poverty really took priority I guess lol

vivid glen
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oh goodness lol

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yeah that's some fair priorities

glad girder
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for real I tried reserving one and everything

vivid glen
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kinda regretting getting a dock but it is what it is

cunning galleon
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did you ever get your steam deck

glad girder
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I am going to get it in 3-5 business days, only 4 years late rdwut

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also Clair Obscur Expedition 33 is bought. I didn't get deluxe but I might pick up the soundtrack

quiet swift
vivid glen
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I hope you enjoy them both!

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also if you are into it the steam deck is great for emulating old games and doesnt take long to set up

quiet swift
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I will warn that E33 can run on the deck, but the performance isn't stellar (not horrible but not great). Best on a full console or PC rig that can run it

glad girder
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I'm not a fan of how big the steam deck is but I trust Valve ergonomics. Hopefully the stuff coming with the development of the steam frame means that a small indie-only device is feasible

vivid glen
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we can hope

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also if you arent scared to work on it yourself they have a whole lot of guide on ifixit

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just incase it were to break

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but i have heard that steam is very generous with returns and such

craggy vine
vivid glen
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what the hell has gabe done

craggy vine
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The decky ui crashed even though I wasn't using it, I'm in desktop mode

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I restarted it and now the gaming mode ui is open in a window on the desktop. Like, it looks like I am in normal steam deck ui but I can alt tab out

fresh bane
craggy vine
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Not exactly my issue

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It came up once while in desktop mode

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Like, the steam window displayed the error

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Like huhh

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I guess this all kinda proves that the steam ui on steam deck really is just big picture mode without the desktop running in the background

fresh bane
craggy vine
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I don't care for it much to be honest, it is just the most wack ass thing ever to see

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I'm not looking for a solution, I already know what it is

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It seems there is nothing wrong with decky, it just decided to have an error while in desktop mode.

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Idk what it even tried to render because everything is rendering fine under the error message

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(also not on steam deck either but close enough)

fresh bane
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honestly as long as everything else is still working, I'd just ignore it ppenk if it works it works

craggy vine
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It's just funny, that's all

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I like how the my putrid ponies community page is just full of mlp

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Man I miss the way windows handled audio at times for games. Linux gives every app my entire 32 in/32 out audio device and some games audio just breaks when it sees that. But at least the solution is just open the game with a normal 2 channel audio output selected instead.

craggy vine
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Deckyloader is actually being annoying

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I do wonder if it is more annoying for me sometimes because I'm not on arch linux like steamOS normally is

astral steeple
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Lol apparently marvel rivals gave out 25 dollars worth of in game currency to players for free but its limited time and you only have a few weeks to actually spend it before the currency itself actually expires

quiet swift
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EwZelaQ78c for when you have 4.5 hours to spare

Thanks for being patient while I made this one. Lots of stuff going on behind the scenes that made the video take forever to make. Combine that with playing an entire franchise for one video and it all took a longggg time. Things will be back to normal after this one!

Also, this is a retrospectives channel now. So uh. Yay.

*Retrospectives Play...

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cerulean herald
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the one place that hasnt been corrupted by capitalism

craggy vine
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My Putrid Ponies is a pretty interesting little horror thing, but as of right now it isn't finished at all

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Got this sad feeling screenshot from the end

teal sonnet
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this is the future (this is a league of legends chat)

craggy vine
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izzyderp pony maker

wind stump
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I can vibe with that. HEFSInaNod

craggy vine
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indeed it can

hidden elbow
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LETS GOOOO

toxic seal
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World of Tanks enjoys cooking with their holiday videos. This year with Benedict Cumberbatch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY7ZVZrrbQE

Benedict Cumberbatch joins us as the Ambassador of Holiday Ops with his signature presence and style.

We’re thrilled to have Benedict as our World of Tanks Ambassador this holiday season, as he brings his magic to our game. Catch this extraordinary gentleman in the Festive village and let’s enjoy the Holiday Cheer!

For a chance to win ...

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bitter stream
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sure, I'll bite

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that's incredible, wtf is going on

visual hill
rancid herald
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I tried to play world of tanks once

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it kind of ate my windows and I hated it for it

quiet swift
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Dang, that's a pretty good bundle. 15$ gets you all 8 items on greenmangaming

random steppe
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Bioshock and Xcom alone are more than worth it IMO

visual hill
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I already have them, I would have bought it only for Rollerdrome and Lego, but the latter is MTX hell even though it's a paid game

fresh bane
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didn't Microsoft proudly announce once that a good chunk of their code was written by AI?

slim thorn
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at this point I feel like all the big stupid corporations have done that

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ironically who knows if it's even true

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they might be misrepresenting a "code generated" figure as a "code actually used in production" number or something

arctic fern
quiet swift
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I linked that a few weeks ago, yes rdsnrk

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Also oooh: there's a local one hour 'playtest' survey I signed up to here where I get an early preview of a game in development (nda signing and all that). The recruiter for the day had to ask a few questions and they were about disco elysium. My favorite moment, favorite side character, what the game is about.

...which makes me very intrigued as to what the actual game I'll be testing will be cocothink

gaunt marten
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OSRS's sailing is pretty neat and unique

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I just got the option to recruit people to help on deck

craggy vine
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I genuenly hope Microsoft starts failing as a company

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I wouldn't mind if google started failing too, but I do still use youtube

wind stump
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Stonks

quiet swift
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:|

wind stump
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Tallnuts OP

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(ignore the ladder)

quiet swift
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I will not!

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It is a monument to your hubris

wind stump
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I got unlucky with a ladder spawn

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also really could have used Winter Melons for this

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NOT THOSE KIND OF MELONS

slim thorn
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~~wait this isn't #1033585093526179840 ~~

wind stump
#

You're not a vtuber!

craggy vine
gaunt marten
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You don't need a portable computer at all

craggy vine
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I neeeed it

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How else am I going to play cyberpunk with ray tracing on the bus

rotund forge
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As the game suggests

craggy vine
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yes

quiet swift
graceful bridge
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I may have found a new game to obsess over. rdwut
https://youtu.be/pKyv1l9e08k?si=FBDdcgASGhkXx5cj

YOU CAN BUY WHISKERWOOD HERE! ► https://www.nexus.gg/skyestorme

FULL Whiskerwood PLAYLIST here! ► https://bit.ly/43Qojr1

This is part 1 of a challenging new gameplay series in the fantasy city building game Whiskerwood. Can I survive the pirate attacks, pay the ever increasing taxes and engineer the ULTIMATE Mouse Paradise?

Picture Perfec...

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robust latch
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is that the city builder with rats having to work for cats?

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i thinjk i saw afew people on youtube playing that

quiet swift
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🎵 There are no cats in america and the streets are paved with cheeeeese 🎵

robust latch
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/2976440/War_of_the_Western_Deep/ i am looking forward to this one the characters are soo adorable

War of the Western Deep combines classic narrative adventure gameplay with a cinematic combat system, brought to life with gorgeous hand-animated artwork, a stunning orchestral score, and a fully voiced cast of memorable characters.

War is coming to the peaceful kingdom of Sunsgrove. As your northern neighbor secretly prepares for invasion, y…

Release Date

To be announced

rancid herald
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I've been looking for a 'nice' fantasy city builder

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like surviving mars, but it's redwall

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(it's red because it's mars)

glad girder
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I started Clair obscur expedition 33

robust latch
glad girder
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Damn why the fuck is this so bad and jittery

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I’m on low quality settings with xess scaling at 58% resolution scale and it’s jittery washed out garbage

mossy flume
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Try disabling XESS scaling

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Scaling techniques can sometimes cause more problems than they solve

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Also, I think part of the issue is that E33 performs runtime shader compilation, which introduces stutter.

Try reloading and seeing if it’s any smoother

glad girder
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I did and it helped a little bit but for some reason the game is forcing a 4K screen resolution on me

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Setting an FPS cap and enabling boost and frame sync seemed to have helped. Back on XeSS and it’s much smoother now

sacred grove
rancid herald
glad girder
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This is bullshit I’m crying and I’m only an hour in

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How is this game touching and exploring so many of our anxieties and the bad things that have happened in recent years

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I won’t say more but holy shit

slim thorn
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if you're gonna give someone flowers...

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(also post full spoiler thoughts in #1382143400975012030 so we can relive the game vicariously through you blobheart)

glad girder
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I will

quiet swift
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Ah, yes. Time for more popcorn. ppinkiepopcorn

mossy flume
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Just an FYI in case anyone has been eyeing Galaxy 1+2 on Switch

random steppe
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Time to engage in some emotional vampirisim

quiet swift
quiet swift
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🍿 Roopopcornmeowpopcornsgpopcorn

mossy flume
quiet swift
mossy flume
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Whoops

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Editing error, that’s great XD

green fulcrum
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Nah, this is endearing. It's like the guy in-universe keeps making the same mistake

fresh bane
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heh
you know what I'm not entirely against the idea of Samus keeping a personal journal of everywhere she goes and everything she does actually

cerulean herald
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Metroid Symbiote

wind stump
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Me dropping literal nukes on my enemies in Command and Conquer Generals

arctic fern
graceful bridge
wind stump
bitter stream
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Looks at cosmetic Miku Skin in fortnite
"Hey, that's nice, why don't I check the price."
30$ of Vbucks to be able to buy it.
"Damn, I guess i'm better off buying a game lol"

wind stump
astral steeple
gaunt marten
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Oh, can you buy the skin without the other items?

bitter stream
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Depends on the skin, but most times yes

gaunt marten
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Makes sense

bitter stream
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Idk. I've not been playing a lot lately, and only occasionally with friends so it's hard to evaluate how much I'll use the skin compared to other possible purchases, even if 15 is within budget.

gaunt marten
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You know what else is fifteen dollars?

bitter stream
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huh, wild

astral steeple
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The bundle includes the instruments, emotes, jam tracks and backbling etc for her

bitter stream
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I'll take a look

gaunt marten
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I can recommend Steamworld Dig 2 and Steamworld Heist. If you enjoy dig 2, dig 1 is good too. I have not played the rest

bitter stream
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nice nice! I'll playthrough some of these, and I recall playign Dig 1 on another platform, so Dig 2 seems like a good deal

gaunt marten
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Dig 2 is a highly polished version of Dig 1, and a solid metroidvania

wind stump
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Dig 2 was free at some point, i think

bitter stream
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yeah, but even now it's only 2$ haha

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at least on this sale

wind stump
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$2 is worth

gaunt marten
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For 90% off, a small amount of support offered to the developers is not a bad idea

bitter stream
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nods. Thanks for letting me know about the Steamworld Sales Flitter. I've got to hop off for now, but will try Dig 2 sometime this week.

wind stump
#

I also did this by accident

mossy flume
# arctic fern https://youtu.be/jQd4ju1eQ3I

Yep. In other words, battle passes, microtransactions, FOMO, seasons, competitive gaming, play timers, all that. I’ve said it before, they all fundamentally ruin video games.

slim thorn
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"and I mean every single game"
uh... ajlie

wind stump
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Me having dropped cash on the 2nd RoR2 DLC earlier today: WorriedReisen

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you know, the one everyone hated

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YOU CALL THIS RESPITE?

mossy flume
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Is there a reason you pinged me for that? rdwut

slim thorn
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it's a metacommentary on how pings and other notification systems are yet another part of the unhealthy attention economy

fickle garnet
slim thorn
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these could both be true

mossy flume
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Ah

river veldt
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game awards is soon

#

exciting

mossy flume
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Hype

#

E33 going to just sweep the competition. Which is cool in its own way but also unfortunate because the nominees are just really damn good this year.

little badger
mossy flume
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Oh, epic!!

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Which one?

little badger