general gaming

[gaunt marten]

Why are you cracking your pipes?

[wind stump]

i dunno but its working

[ripe escarp]

This can't be good for me, but I feel great!

[static bluff]

Okay the latest Dwarf Fortress update that dropped today looks really really fun - https://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/

It adds sieges to the game, making defending your fort way more challenging. Which is what I feel like the game needed. More !!FUN!!

[gaunt marten]

I thought Dwarf Fortress already had sieges

[mossy flume]

GUI DF still doesn't have a macOS version despite them promising they would do that

Bigger issue though is that I need a cloud save sync solution for my DF saves, otherwise it's kinda a hassle to play

[static bluff]

The enemies can now build ladders, mine into your base, and free others from traps.

Your anti siege weapons are also stronger though

[light gate]

They cancelled it.

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/975370/view/4237410439220288178?l=english

“After investigating the programming requirements, we have decided it’s best to cancel the Mac build for the time being. Porting the game over to Mac would take significant time and resources away from improvements to Fortress and Adventure Mode that simply don’t make sense for us to dedicate right now, given the low number of Mac-only users. There is a significant amount of work that would be required for maintaining a Mac build that would delay all patches in the future, and as we know, you all want patches faster. We aren’t saying it will -never- happen but do not count on it any time soon. We are very sorry to all the Mac users who have been waiting patiently for an update on this.”

Maybe in the future, but don’t count on it.

[slim thorn]

mac ports not being worth the effort keeps getting rediscovered like clockwork

it's almost as if apple is doing nothing to improve the situation

[sacred grove]

Also they're a two programmer team and they want to keep it small. Makes sense, even if it sucks

[mossy flume]

Wow, that’s bullshit

[light gate]

Apple improving the “situation” would lead to nothing because the marketshare is still insignificant. Even if they didn’t switch to ARM, used Vulkan instead of Metal, and did everything right… nothing would change because the developer still has to apply additional effort for another port to run properly.

I know this because before Metal, OpenGL was supported. That didn’t make everyone flock to Macs and make proper ports, most ports were half-assed to begin with.

So to say “Apple needs to do something!” would change nothing. This is on the developers and their will, if they don’t want to… then so be it.

[slim thorn]

well that's part of it

[mossy flume]

Apple supported OpenGL… up to OpenGL 3.3

[slim thorn]

but back when I was looking into this stuff there were a bunch of extra headaches involved in packaging and releasing a usable mac application that could not be abstracted away even by cross-platform engines and didn't resemble anything Windows or Linux required, which is the part I blame Apple for

[light gate]

I mean, don’t they kinda behave like AppImages? Contained in one folder that is essentially an .exe?

[slim thorn]

granted these days Linux > Mac for games because of the SteamOS push, but even when I was younger, Linux ports were way more common than Mac ports because they took far less time and effort to do

[mossy flume]

A lot of them do, yeah

[light gate]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Honestly, the situation will never improve.

[slim thorn]

oh and there were all these weird restrictions on virtualizing it which meant that in practice the only way to test a mac build was to buy a mac, while windows/linux people could VM the other to do basic testing

pretty sure I'm forgetting a few other layers of nonsense but the point is it was never just the low market share

[mossy flume]

Or dual boot, in the cases where you needed direct hardware access which a VM won’t give

Buying a Mac is a low barrier, though. Mac Mini is cheap.

[light gate]

On the bright side, I got Bazzite working on my old rog laptop. But I already ran into some shitty issues I had to fix.

Still can’t figure out why Minecraft locks up though.

I guess I should just blame NVIDIA

That’s easy.

[slim thorn]

fair, I was not aware of mac minis, maybe they didn't exist or were still too expensive to be worth it way back when I evaluated all this

[mossy flume]

Mac Minis have been a thing since January 2005

[light gate]

They were more expensive back then

The concept of a mini computer was hard back then

[slim thorn]

and that's still just one hurdle of several

[mossy flume]

$499

[light gate]

Yeah, but it wasn’t as good as like the M chips.

It had ok performance.

[visual hill]

4.1 actually

not that a lot of devs used 4.x anyway

[mossy flume]

Ah, right

[visual hill]

Mac Minis were historically bad dev machines due to slow CPUs, we had to wait until 2020 for this to be fixed

the 2014 Mac Mini base model is infamous for its Pentium 3-level CPU clock

[light gate]

Its also wild that Epic Games was very friendly with Apple back in the day, Infinity Blade, praising Metal…

How times have changed…

[visual hill]

(maybe not P3, but you get the point)

Epic does have native Metal in Unreal

[light gate]

Yeah, but there are so many *

[mossy flume]

Tim Sweeney just wants to have zero commission fees to Apple and get a free ride

[visual hill]

and OldUnreal added FruCoRe (Fruit Company Renderer) to Unreal Gold and UT99, with Epic's blessing 🙂

[mossy flume]

Same with Google

[slim thorn]

anyway

[visual hill]

(not called Metal because of S3's MeTaL)

[slim thorn]

what is the situation with Metal and Vulkan these days

[light gate]

DirectX still reigns

[mossy flume]

Metal is still actively developed, all the major engines support it natively. MoltenVK is a handy compatibility layer if your game has Vulkan already (with some limitations)

[visual hill]

Vulkan is still a bit of a second class citizen, less so than OpenGL but it's not great

[mossy flume]

Yeah. It’s powerful but difficult to work with.

[visual hill]

D3D12 is here to stay, at least it's going to adopt SPIR-V in the future...

(same intermediate shader representation as Vulkan)

[mossy flume]

Microsoft has a quiet monopoly on game distribution because of this shit.

[light gate]

And lets not get into Linux’s compositor. Xorg and Wayland…

[visual hill]

D3D12 runs well in Proton these days, but I remember 2018-2019 where you had to run games in D3D11 mode

[mossy flume]

Can't escape Windows. All devs target Windows because everyoneuses Windows but everyone uses Windows because all the devs target it and ignore everything else.

It's an intentional collective prison

[light gate]

But the App Store

Sorry snk

[mossy flume]

*For most games

*experience may vary

[light gate]

Try playing Tiberian Sun

You need two hacks to get it working

[mossy flume]

People shit on macOS for not being a platform worth developing for, but that exact circular mindset is exactly why it's in this situation. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. People don't play games on it because not very many games are built for it, therefore the market is small and thus they don't build games for it because the market is small and nobody makes games for it.

[light gate]

Notarization is also another reason.

[mossy flume]

While conveniently ignoring all the games that do exist and ignoring what's possible.

[light gate]

Which is funny because MS has its own system now.

[mossy flume]

As does Google.

[slim thorn]

to be clear, I was only complaining about all the unique and unnecessary barriers to development on it that discourage anyone from contributing to breaking that exact cycle

but now that Steam's throwing its weight behind Linux it hardly matters, supporting that is the best chance of weakening the monopoly anyway

[mossy flume]

It's an increasingly fragile argument, given that first class native support from all the tools has been a thing for years now.

[light gate]

I’d still disagree with the proton philosophy but I still rather take that option than to remind me three days later.

[mossy flume]

Proton is a bandaid

[light gate]

Yup.

[mossy flume]

I give a break to all the devs who have built their games with entirely custom engines

[light gate]

I will say tho, KDE is kinda nice.

[mossy flume]

But not to the ones who build on UE5, Unity, and Godot.

Eventually I'll get around to buying a Framework laptop so I can have a machine I can run desktop Linux on via bare metal as opposed to a VM or a headless machine.

[light gate]

I was considering Framework but uhh

Anyhow

[mossy flume]

Eh?

[light gate]

Not worth discussing tbh.

[mossy flume]

Oh right, their CEO is an Elon/Trump shill

IIRC

[unreal idol]

OHNO

[dense crypt]

Adventure mode!?

[rotund forge]

@tiny wigeon What the hell game!?

[tiny wigeon]

WTF LMAO

insane

[rotund forge]

This game hates me

[quiet swift]

Just perform biblical amounts of greed with sunflowers

[dawn harness]

have you considered simply perishing

[rotund forge]

I hate Starfruit with such an unbridled (ha, horse pun) passion it's not even funny

It's always the Starfruit...

And the kernelpults!

So much butter!

[chilly mural]

https://bsky.app/profile/gamehistoryorg.bsky.social/post/3m4qr355i222d

Video Game History Foundation (@gamehistoryorg.bsky.social)

Still need more baseball?

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Bluesky · Nov 3, 2025, 7:31 PM

[worthy rose]

https://gameinformer.com/2025/11/03/persona-live-2026-awakenings-is-bringing-the-series-best-music-to-the-us-with-just-two

[mossy flume]

The Nintendo Switch 2 has sold so well that Nintendo has had to revise their projected sales figures and earnings numbers.

They went from estimating 15 million units sold to now estimating 19 million units sold

(By the end of Nintendo’s fiscal year, which ends in March)

Reddit was so damn insistent that the Switch 2 would flop due to the price

It is instead the highest grossing and fastest selling game console of all time

[hasty patio]

People wanted it enough to buy it, even with the price (for the most part). I think the titles helped too.

[mossy flume]

Yeah, it has a decent starting lineup of games

Good games will move hardware off the shelves

[hasty patio]

It is what ultimately moves things, but it helps to have something that can run it well.

[fresh bane]

I always thought the idea that the Switch 2 would fail in any shape or form was ridiculous, even if it wasn't a super powerful system that would blow people's brains away, simply being able to run more demanding Switch 1 games like BOTW and TOTK would've sold a lot of people already

People in online spaces have their perceptions a little altered sometimes, I think they underestimate just how many people don't really care about any potentially shitty consumer practices Nintendo may have, or if the games never drop in price at all, they'll get them anyways because it's Nintendo

I also have this theory that I'll never be able to conclusively prove that even if they named it something like the WiiU it would've done fine and not fail either, like a lot of people were joking initially when they thought they would name the Switch 2 something weird like that, just because they would've marketed it a lot better than they did the Wii U which was one of the biggest problems with that console, that and the fact that it had basically no games

[river veldt]

i want a switch 2 really bad, it's just so expensive though

[visual hill]

the Switch 2 looks like a bargain next to current PS5 pricing (especially in France as you can often get it discounted), but it tends to target a younger audience

however, you'll see that nearly everyone who got a Switch 2 (...I almost wrote 2witch) right now is an adult. This will likely start to change every Christmas season, little by little, but I expect the Switch 2 to be the "Disney adult" console for a while

[wind stump]

or just get a PC

[gaunt marten]

On the topic of making up inbetween frames
https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2025/09/15/hedge-wizard

[visual hill]

seeing Penny Arcade in big 2025 feels wild

[mossy flume]

https://bsky.app/profile/gibiz.bsky.social/post/3m4thvz42zg2h

GamesIndustry.biz (@gibiz.bsky.social)

US Patent Office makes rare decision to order "reexamination" of previously awarded Nintendo patent
www.gamesindustry.biz/us-patent-of...

-# US Patent Office makes rare decision to order "reexamination" of previously awarded Nintendo patent
The head of the U.S. Patent Office is reexamining a decision to award Nintendo a patent that protects a common gameplay…

Bluesky · Nov 4, 2025, 9:25 PM

Nintendo’s Pokémon patent claims are rapidly falling apart

First Japan, now this

[random steppe]

At least we are putting some limits down as to what you can patent here

There is the big risk that people at patent offices didn't understand games well enough to differentiate, happy to see enough time has passed that we got people inside that actually know their shit

[slim thorn]

hopefully someday software patents can go away entirely, but at least this is a step in the right direction

[random steppe]

I mean I like both copyrights and patents as concepts, if you make something genuinely new you should be able to have some time to profit on it before everyone gets to iterate on it.
I just think they last too long and for patents, they are sometimes way too generic

[slim thorn]

I think everyone does to some degree, the complaints are always at blatant overextensions of it

[rare dew]

"Thanks a lot, Disney"

[slim thorn]

I do believe that the usual reasons patents are a good idea simply don't apply to software, and that software should not be patentable, but I fully admit that is far from obvious (and most people have no reason to think about this since it's not like we'll ever get to vote on the issue)

[random steppe]

For copyright the length is fucked but I think the telling stuff apart from other stuff that is actually not infringing is pretty mature.
Largely because that stuff is pretty universal across media properties.

Which is why Nintendo didn't issue a copyright claim, but a patent

[slim thorn]

yep, I'm unaware of any copyright problems besides the duration and frivolous claims

(unsure whether not-actually-copyright systems like whatever Youtube's doing are in scope here)

[random steppe]

Youtube stuff is a bit more complicated, they don't really look at the claim themselves most of the time unless it's blatantly false

They more act as a platform to allow you to issue claims, and then you can take it to court if both parties don't back down

[slim thorn]

yeah I don't know how that should work, or whether it qualifies as a "copyright" problem or some other bucket, only that all the blatantly wrong results indicate some kind of flaw in the system

[random steppe]

To my understanding, what youtube is doing isn't by any law, they essentially are obligate to "promptly respond to takedown notices"
That's all the law says and they let the platforms figure out how to go about it.

If they fail to do that, they can lose their safe harbour provision and they can be sued directly for the copyright infringment

[slim thorn]

my understanding is claims in the youtube system are not real legal DMCA claims precisely so that youtube can process them more efficiently than courts, and avoid all the risks of being directly sued as you said, which generally benefits youtube and the claimants but not so much the claimee

[random steppe]

Technically, issuing a false takedown notice is not exactly legal either, but proving it's malicious is difficult and people have not much appetite to pay money to hunt down infringers

[slim thorn]

like spam emails, all the systematic incentives make it basically impossible to enforce a "don't spam" rule

presumably any realistic solution would involve making it significantly harder to file claims in the first place

[random steppe]

Basically if youtube didn't have its own DMCA notice system, what would have to happen is the claimant contacting youtube for the indentity of the infringer, they'd have to provide it, and they'd have to send them some sort of notice from their lawyers if not directly a copyright infringement accusation if they wanted to.

What youtube is doing is putting an extra step in the middle, which probably works most of the time, but when it gets abused it can be pretty bad, especially given how they seem to be allergic to have actual humans reviewing anything anymore at google.

[slim thorn]

I do wonder if there are enough humans on the planet to do all those reviews

would be nice if sites like that were legally required to publish some of these statistics

[random steppe]

I mean, we are talking of a fraction of the claims.
I assume 99.9% of the claims are legitimate and the channel gets shut down shortly after or the video gets deleted

For those it's perfectly legit to have an automated system handle the beurocracy

[slim thorn]

well, that being a big if is the whole issue

[bronze abyss]

for some reason this channel specifically has been targeted by my discord client,i cannot get rid of the "new message" circle no matter if i scroll down fully or mark it as read

[fresh bane]

have you tried turning it off and on again

[gaunt marten]

Yeah, did you try unfollowing the post?

[bronze abyss]

actually give up

[bitter stream]

hello! has anyone played Octopath Traveller 1/2 ? Any thoughts on if it's worth a pick up?

[quiet swift]

I believe several in here have. I myself have only played the first of the two, quite liked it

If it's on sale it's definitely worth snagging

[bronze abyss]

played a lil of 1 a while back,remember liking it but never went far in it

[frozen gate]

1 feels like sort of a demo for square to explore the hd-2d kinda retro jrpg style

biggest criticisms was the stories being entirely separate and so the loop ends up making u very jarringly jump from character to character to grind further which absolutely kills the pacing

i havent played 2 but i've heard it fixes this

which def makes it worth it but either way it's a standard retro JRPG experience it just looks insanely pretty

1's not bad if that's all ur looking for, then, too

that includes a ton of random encounters

[frozen gate]

not a miss for me but i know it'll be for others

[quiet swift]

Those are all valid criticisms, depends on yourself as to whether those are dealbreakers or not. My biggest complaint is the essentially "gauntlet" of the endgame / boss. Big pain in the ass. (will not reveal any further)

[bitter stream]

fair enough! thanks for the the info. It's on sale for 33 AUD or so, so I was considering it

the "looks insanely pretty" part is one of the main draws for me haha

[frozen gate]

yeahh so its art style became the one for the Dragon Quest 1-3 remakes and a few other games

it works well

[bitter stream]

fair enough

I was also considering "Triangle Strategy" (what a name) but apparently the pacing in that is really really odd

[bronze abyss]

while im not big on square or the snes type pixel art,they did absolutely nail the aesthetic,its gorgeous

[bitter stream]

ah yeah

[green fulcrum]

Triangle Strategy's pacing can be a bit odd at points, but I highly recommend it. It's extremely fun, and the story is pretty gripping (imo). Fantastic soundtrack too.

[bitter stream]

ah ok, that's good to hear, thanks GT

[green fulcrum]

I should also point out that it can be brutally hard at points too, lol

[cunning galleon]

5 days?! Dang i survived so long

And 119 zombies by hand

Much more via vehicles too

I kind of got lacerated, evident by that injured moodle

It's infected so i wanna go to muldraugh for a pharmacy run

[arctic fern]

you dont need a pharmacy run for that

you can make do with alchohol

[cunning galleon]

True.. Drink your sorrows away

[arctic fern]

also how did you get lacerated? random injury or from a zombie?

[cunning galleon]

Zombie

[arctic fern]

you're fucked

[cunning galleon]

Laceration is 50%

I've been lacerated for a day, no signs yet

[arctic fern]

yeah but an infection from a zombie laceration means you're fucked

[cunning galleon]

We'll see because it got infected the moment I was lacerated

Iirc i don't think it tells you if you're infected with the Knox Virus

Just gives you signs like anxiety and getting queasy

[arctic fern]

it does not tell you no, i believe those are the signs, yes

[cunning galleon]

Yea I've gotten none of the signs after a day of letting my second injury heal

Got scratched by idiot zombie (I was the idiot)

Spooky scary skeleton

Can i eat the zombies? Can I butcher their corpses

[arctic fern]

lol

i dont know? what mods are you running

i dont think you can butcher zombies by default

[cunning galleon]

Vanilla

Tbh the favorite weapon thing is inaccurate, my real favorite weapon is c a r

[arctic fern]

playing the beta or current stable?

[cunning galleon]

B41 because B42 is unsupported

3 years old build atp so I doubt it does have cannibalism by default

[arctic fern]

thats weird

[cunning galleon]

B42 is unsupported by the launcher*

Being able to clear hordes feels nice tbh, i used to die within 24 hours so 5 days is a record for me

Well... Small excursion groups of 10, not entire hordes

[arctic fern]

do you do follow the fence strats?

[cunning galleon]

nope

I run them over then finish the stragglers with my trusty cleaver

It broke so i use a fireaxe

[arctic fern]

ok

well

if you find a chest high wall, like a fence or window, zombies will follow you over it and then fall onto the ground
this makes them prone and stuns them for a sec, making them very vulnerable

also bind stomp to a key to save weapon durability

[cunning galleon]

Yea i just don't use the strat because there isn't any fences

I'm new but I've known about ever since build 42! Which is since 2021

[arctic fern]

..fuck has it been that long?

[cunning galleon]

I guess I'm not new experience wise because i watched the fuck out of project zomboid videos back then

But it's like an armchair tanker or something, knowing something but only on the level of reading books/watching videos and not experiencing it beforehand

[cunning galleon]

Yea apparently B41 is like 3-4 years old

[arctic fern]

honestly that does help a LOT

i learned a lot from youtubers

i didnt even think of the fence strat myself lol but one guy had an army backpack full of planks, nails and a hammer so he could make fences wherever lol

[cunning galleon]

Lmao wtf i never thought of that

Planks are too heavy to bring with me so i just skedaddle when I realize i can't beat these fucks

Then run them over with my favorite weapon

The Chevalier Step Van!

[arctic fern]

he did it for one playthrough

[cunning galleon]

Youtubers really help a lot like you said, that's where i know how to barricade the wall or light a molotov cocktail

Also that strat of taking out a huge horde in one go by gathering them in a circle and throwing a molotov at them

I kind of larp as if I'm in the walking dead because I don't play with sprinters (fuck that bruh i die to slow zombies I'm dying³ to sprinters)

[arctic fern]

i like the strat of finding an ambulance or other car with siren, parking it next to another car, lighting a capmfire outside of it, starting the siren and watching zombies burn for the next few hours

oh sprinters suuuuuck yeah

[cunning galleon]

I start with the obese trait because it's easier to lose weight than gain it in zomboid

[arctic fern]

it can be

[cunning galleon]

I've been shoving canned spaghetti bolognese down my character's throat and she's apparently not gaining weight

[arctic fern]

lol

[cunning galleon]

Yea I've heard of that one aswell

I remember when I accidentally left a wailing police car in the middle of west point and when I came back it was a sea of zombies i have never seen before

[arctic fern]

lol

[cunning galleon]

For now i need a garden saw and sledge hammers so i could extend my living space

And replace boarded up big windows with a wall

[arctic fern]

in 41 certain tools are absolutely critical, its why 42 has a lot more emphasis on crafting

i htink you can craft every tool? nearly from scratch?

[cunning galleon]

I think so

I remember seeing a forge and stuff before B42 was released

Guns probably will become harder and harder to maintain and I guess you can fabricate bullets pretty easily

Fabricated guns sounds cool! Imagine gunsmithing as an entirely new skill

[arctic fern]

dont think gunsmithing is a thing yet

doubt it will be for 42

43 maybe, it would be a whole new skill likely

[cunning galleon]

Hope they'd look complete different from the stock guns and are customizable

Knowing zomboid, i could imagine a custom gun builder

I wanna make a bullpup AK-47

... That's literally just a Groza actually

[hushed onyx]

Has anyone here played IXION?

[arctic fern]

Yes
Didn't get far tho

[hushed onyx]

Oh?

[arctic fern]

Yeah I was bad at it

[wind stump]

A Leaky Boots

Any TTYD enjoyers rember the "A Super Boots"?

[random steppe]

Here is why Ben Starr is the best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtnfNsPrYSE

[bitter stream]

hahah, amazing

that's so funny

[gaunt marten]

Black and White 2 (not Pokémon) had this prank.

If you played it late at night it would check the current username on your computer and whisper it back to you if it has that one prerecorded

It was also in the first game

It's also translated to other languages
https://youtu.be/VSIXZJFgBFA?

[wind stump]

https://youtu.be/WHe42V0WCBs

wrap her up, we're done

[quiet swift]

Let's select a random game from my entire gog galaxy list... someone pick a letter in the alphabet

[proud warren]

B

[rare dew]

Č̣

[quiet swift]

B was first. Now, someone pick a number between 1 and 119. There are some duplicate entries though (normal editions, extended/director's cut/etc) so it might not be 100% exact.

[proud warren]

72

[quiet swift]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/927250/Bladed_fury/ ends up being this

Steam

Bladed fury

This is a classic Chinese fantasy 2D action game, based on Chinese history, mythology with a dash of surrealism in the mix.Story background
At the beginning of the Warring States Period, Tian, an officer under Duke Kang of Qi, set a trap that killed the Duke, exiled Ji, the younger princess, and put Shu, the elder princess, under house arrest. Th…

Price

$9.99

Recommendations

2891

Metacritic

74

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[proud warren]

Certainly an interesting style

[astral steeple]

https://deadline.com/2025/11/grow-a-garden-movie-story-kitchen-in-development-1236608058/

What

[fickle garnet]

[cunning galleon]

?? What

[astral steeple]

They're just making movies out of anything these days lol

[fickle garnet]

Played some of the Battlefield 6 battle royale, it's decent ngl. I think it's a lot better than CoD Warzone

I just wish I had the full game so I could play multiplayer, but ig a free to play BR is better than nothing

[ripe escarp]

What the fuck

Who are these people

[astral steeple]

Story kitchen has done a decent amount of movies already iirc

The founder was also the lead creator on the sonic movies

[fickle garnet]

Ah yes, I love getting the same achievement twice

[cunning galleon]

My vans look like they just got out from hell

[fickle garnet]

Are you playing Project Zomboid on mobile?

[cunning galleon]

Looks like there is a hardware store in west point, I'm going back later

[cunning galleon]

Yes

It's actually pretty easy with this controller set up idk why people used to say it was impossible

[fickle garnet]

I didn't know it was on mobile

[cunning galleon]

Unofficial launcher

[fickle garnet]

I see

[river veldt]

what is project zomboid

[gaunt marten]

It's zombie survival but mostly survival

You scavenge and shit

[dreamy raptor]

Welp, I was watching, and I must say, this is just cursed:
https://youtu.be/p4I45APluUE?si=7mEORgUN3DJNtrmr&t=2213

[cunning galleon]

Once you progress more it's more on survival yeah

Zombies still a big threat en masse if you don't know what you're doing

I'm surprised i managed to clear a big west point horde tbh

[gaunt marten]

Zombies are an excuse to focus on survival, rather than a goal to get rid of

[cunning galleon]

They are a goal for me, to clear west point and fence up some areas

[frozen gate]

chad survivor vs the weak zomboids

[cunning galleon]

I think the point of zomboid is to write your own story

[arctic fern]

Its an incredibly good game
Isometric zombie survival, with a high emphasis on both wide and deep mechanics on a variety of game mechanics
Combat, survival, building, crafting, even car maintenance

[cunning galleon]

I mean, before you start it's not "This is how you survive", it's "This is how you died"

[fickle garnet]

I want to play it

[cunning galleon]

You can die from a cold!

[arctic fern]

The tutorial literally kills you

[cunning galleon]

I think

Pressing Q is v cool, gives you antidote

[arctic fern]

Honestly the medical side is a little bland

Needs more work

[cunning galleon]

Yea you just drink bourbon and you're all set

[arctic fern]

Lol no

[arctic fern]

Is good

[cunning galleon]

Speaking of, i found 10 bottles of bourbon

[arctic fern]

Oh nice

[cunning galleon]

I'm going to set things on fire in west point

The townhall especially

After raiding the hardware store I wanna try raiding the police station if i find a sledgehammer

[fickle garnet]

Every time I hear the words hardware store, I think of Weird Al

[cunning galleon]

Then i will throw a molotov at the town hall

[river veldt]

i do like the isometric style of Project Zomboid, reminds me of the classic Fallouts

huh, it's SD verified

[astral steeple]

Peak

[fickle garnet]

Where? I don't see it

I might buy PZ sometime

[arctic fern]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2792387747 let me know if a pony plushie mod sways you

There might be a few familiar faces in there

[fickle garnet]

I found the peak in question

[astral steeple]

lol

[arctic fern]

I think there's over 400 ponies now

Well plushies at least

[ripe escarp]

I will never play Project Zomboid

[arctic fern]

Why not

[astral steeple]

Homer's sedan in rocket league is super peak

Probably one of the most iconic fictional cars of all time outside of maybe the mystery machine from scooby doo

[ripe escarp]

I do not care for zombie games

[arctic fern]

Ok

[astral steeple]

The only zombie games I was ever super interested in was left 4 dead 1 and 2 lol

[arctic fern]

Ok

[ripe escarp]

The only zombie game I played regularly was a Walking Dead Minecraft server

[fickle garnet]

I like zombie games

[ripe escarp]

Like DayZ or smth idk I never played DayZ

[arctic fern]

Dayz! I remember that

Shame what happened to it in the end

[ripe escarp]

What happened to DayZ

[arctic fern]

The standalone was basically the definition of development hell

[fickle garnet]

MY favourite zombie game is probably Dying Light

[ripe escarp]

I played a merchant in the Walking Dead server for a while

[cerulean herald]

my fav zombie game is Plants vs Zombies

[ripe escarp]

There was a "safe zone" that was probably like villains in the show or smth

[river veldt]

my favorite zombie game is Minecraft

[ripe escarp]

So I just took over one of the houses and traded stuff with other players

When I logged back after a while in the wall around the "safe zone" had a hole in it so it wasn't safe anymore

So I just kind of stopped playing

[cunning galleon]

My favorite zombie game is project zomboid

Project Zomboid also happens to be the best life sim

[arctic fern]

Honestly yeah

Remove the zombies from zomboid and you still have a great survival game

[cunning galleon]

Project Zomboid art style is also very cool, i love it because i love playing isometric games

[river veldt]

i realize this could be misconstrued as me saying that Minecraft is a zombie but i just meant it in the way that it has zombies in it

[cunning galleon]

OpenTTD and other Chris Sawyer games

[arctic fern]

You should try vintage story

[cunning galleon]

Minecraft if you want to suffer

[arctic fern]

Minecraft if you wanna enjoy mining and crafting

[river veldt]

but i enjoy that in Minecraft

[cunning galleon]

It looks like west point is connected to Louisville

... That's another hell I'm not gonna encounter

[arctic fern]

Oh god
Good luck with louisville

[cunning galleon]

I think I'm just gonna die in the checkpoint lol

8 days in and no helicopter event

[arctic fern]

Yet

[cunning galleon]

Actually i think i experienced it

Bunch of zeds went to where i live but since it's urban focused only a few stragglers that i didn't get went

[cunning galleon]

Holy shit, great haul

Minimal zombies in west point because of moi ✨

6 boxes of nails! That's 600 nails!!!

Sledgehammer!!!

And saws!! I can finally process wood

[arctic fern]

Thats a haul indeed

Now get them home

[worldly summit]

if you want a permadeath zombies gamemode in Minecraft the Shotbow server has one called MineZ

you can wander around and get killed but it’s fun if you have another person to play with, check the map to plan out a route of supply locations to hit, and make your way to the more dangerous northern areas and tackle a dungeon or loot-filled structure

it’s mostly based on DayZ though

[cunning galleon]

I am home :3

I live in the food market at the highway going into West point

[dense crypt]

i really ought to get this game, but i'd get it for the wrong reasons. i like to fight and kill things, especially zombies, but zombies in Zomboid seem like they're either be tanky, unrewarding to kill, SUPER deadly, or all of the above.

[arctic fern]

Theyre none of the above

Well you can make them all of the above if you wanted to i suppose, sprinters are a bitch

I guess they dont drop much loot either, but there are plenty of loot mods for that

[dense crypt]

i'd want to create a base for zombie hunting

[cunning galleon]

Zombies are more of a threat than a goal

I guess clearing a section counts as a goal

I don't make other bases tbh, safe house maybe

[arctic fern]

Theres an RV interior mod that let's you build inside a car or truck or bus

[dense crypt]

neat

[cunning galleon]

Might make one in west point

[cunning galleon]

Sometimes you gotta cook

[rotund forge]

@tiny wigeon

Gold Farming

[quiet swift]

biblical greed

[tiny wigeon]

Bro what is this

[tiny wigeon]

Literally

[rotund forge]

Takes about 3 minutes to set up and gives me about $1000 each attempt

[tiny wigeon]

You trying to max the tree or something?

[rotund forge]

Last Stand is easy for farming because they give you the sun and you set a "defense" to last 5 waves

[rotund forge]

Get the 10th slot first

[river veldt]

is this teplanted

replant

[rotund forge]

no

[river veldt]

oh

i dont remember this

[rotund forge]

It's one of the minigames

[river veldt]

ah

[rotund forge]

Gives you 5000 sun, no sun is produced, no sun producing plants, and you build your defense before the round starts. Then you have to survive five rounds with breaks inbetween and an extra 200 sun after every wave

[rotund forge]

And 10th slot acquired!

[cunning galleon]

sawing

[rotund forge]

I, Zombie endless still makes me want to rip my hair out one strand at a time from the follicle with rusty tweezers!!!!

[astral steeple]

What

[cunning galleon]

So, my character got lacerated for the 2nd time and she wasn't so lucky

It took approximately 4-5 ingame hours for the first sign, anxiety/nervousness

Then around 12-17 hours for the second symptom, queasy, to set in

Then i just died to a zed but that's how long it took for knox virus laceration

For symptoms to appear

I went on a rampage after the first sign appeared, i will spawn in west point and return to my old home.

11 days and 20 hours is a new record for me

[arctic fern]

Gratz

[cunning galleon]

I ran naked with only a vest and a helmet for like... An hour irl holy shit

Crashed my stolen cars around 20 times, i counted

I wanna map out my path

I came across something that confused me and thought it was a visual big

For some reason, there are locomotive hangars in the freight depot that has those embankments

Crashed around here, didn't realize i was so close to home

[arctic fern]

Hey you dont need to use armoured clothing
Its just one option for playing

Some people prefer swag over armour

[cunning galleon]

I prefer Armour actually

I'm one of those people i larp as LEO

Law enforcement officer*

Then i took this path, completely missing a fucking town when my character was starving,, how the hell does this happen 😭

[cunning galleon]

Because honestly? My girl was slaying it with white underwear, riding boots, a vest and a motorcycle cop helmet

Yes, i ran the mile until I found a car then i walked and walked to the construction site after i crashed the already broken cars

[arctic fern]

Lol

I love zomboid

[cunning galleon]

Ignore the moodles she was clearly dying of zomboid

[cunning galleon]

Me too, doing stuff like this is fun Holy shit

Why? Because i feel comfortable knowing I already have a base to just go and live back into

With 10 bottles of bourbon waiting for me
... 9 bottles

[arctic fern]

Lol

[cunning galleon]

I never used them to torch the townhall

Just to sterilize bandages and never abuse the substance, BORING!

[arctic fern]

Lol

I think you can sterilise bandages with boiling water

[cunning galleon]

I haven't stolen a stove yet, or a microwave

I wish butane stoves existed in vanilla zomboid

[arctic fern]

...they do?
Well propane ones do

[cunning galleon]

Yea but i have a butane stove and it's very portable, it even comes with a briefcase

[arctic fern]

Yeah I've used one of those before

There are mods for that

[cunning galleon]

And 5.0 encumbrance at best

[arctic fern]

Yeah they're very lightweight

But remember, the game is set in 1993 if I recall

[cunning galleon]

There's also these

[arctic fern]

Yeah

There are mods for that tho

[cunning galleon]

True, there are mods for everything

[arctic fern]

Its a very moddable game

[cunning galleon]

I wonder to what extent that is, I'm surprised i haven't seen a custom-custom gun mod yet

[arctic fern]

Uuuh

Thats probably harder than you think

But there are other mods

Stuff like more attachments

And crafted guns

[cunning galleon]

I guess, a bit surprised modifying your cars still isn't vanilla

[arctic fern]

Theres a billion other features they're working on

B42 has pretty in depth animal husbandry for example

Theyre focusing on grassroots survival i think, the ability to start with nothing and build to approximately civilisation

[cunning galleon]

B42 is impressively well done with the amount of features it has, and the fact there are still more to come

[arctic fern]

Its still hot a LOT of work to do

[cunning galleon]

So one day project zomboid would literally just be "Project"

[arctic fern]

Tho I am hyped for MP

[cunning galleon]

I can already see "surviving 100 days barebones!!!"

[arctic fern]

There are already vids like that, albeit modded

They dont di the 100 days thing fortunately

[cunning galleon]

100 days is too easy to do nowadays, there should be a twist

Like insane population and occasionally helicopter event

[toxic seal]

I'm playing Tales of Xillia Remastered and with the digital bonuses they're pretty much giving you everything you need to make the game as smooth as possible no matter what difficulty you're on. Very friendly to the people who just want to experience the game's story and world again after 14 years without being bogged down by grinding. The bonuses can be turned off, too, so it can be properly enjoyed with challenge for new players or returners who don't want things too easy.

[ripe escarp]

No Players Online is out!

[cerulean herald]

I mean, if you ignore the anti-homeless design, I guess its kinda nice

[fickle garnet]

It's insane that they put anti-homeless architecture in a fucking pokemon game

[fickle garnet]

How does Cities Skylines 2 compare to the first one? Is it as good?

[ripe escarp]

Kalos has plenty of hostile architecture I've heard

[mossy flume]

https://youtu.be/_DHozr0ZBcE?si=axot2gVNYlTQYsBF

December 10th

[cerulean herald]

are there other examples, I've only really noticed the benches

[mossy flume]

https://youtu.be/Ghl04QRlT4E?si=LdUEkvb4nuSRcmux

Also a new mystery gift distribution happening now

[frozen gate]

yeah they used to have a bunch of paid DLC that would do things like a bunch of free levels, a ton of free money, etc, then it got packaged in with the remastered release i figure

you can see it with Berseria and Arise on steam

[little badger]

GTA VI has been delayed

[mossy flume]

To the relief of devs everywhere

[gaunt marten]

That's okay they can delay it ten more years

[fresh bane]

I know that's gonna make a lot of people lose their minds, as if no other games other than GTA exist

[wind stump]

Hatsume Miku Goes To Hell

[light gate]

Well, considering the old GTA games can barely be played unless you mod the living crap out of them. Or unless you somehow like the ‘definitive edition’. Or have an old PSP or get the old additional titles somehow. Or like how GTA IV runs like hell with multiplayer removed. Or how GTA V has legacy and a modern version because anticheat & more gta online focus.

I guess it really is just GTA V.

Maybe Rockstar should’ve not killed the open source community effort to fix old gta games.

still excited for VI tho

[wind stump]

... I think I need to play Sonic Frontiers.

only... 3 years late to the party

[gaunt marten]

You out there buying horse armor?

[worthy rose]

There is a lot of stuff going around about Rockstar union busting, by firing some devs

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9v10rr1meeo

[little badger]

Apparently it was from devs leaking stuff

[mossy flume]

Star Citizen is going to break this record soon

November of next year SC will break it

Beyond Good and Evil 2 already has, but it’s not out yet

[fickle garnet]

Just set up PS1 emulation so I can play MGS1

[cerulean herald]

the unholy trinity of development hell

[fickle garnet]

I bought Project Zomboid

[arctic fern]

nice!

[fickle garnet]

Just got this mod. I deemed it necessary

[visual hill]

it was expected, (mainline) GTA games have historically never released in the spring. The thing seemed sus to me on day 1 😛

games tend to sell better if they release near the holiday season, and this is doubly true for a game that can be a system seller

[visual hill]

GTA VI has only been announced officially by Rockstar in mid-2023, so not really

its development period is very long, but it was an unannounced title for the vast majority of its cycle

[river veldt]

the game will come out when it comes out

[ripe escarp]

When it's done

like five people are going to understand that joke

[astral steeple]

See I want to be excited for gta 6 but it's likely gonna be massive in size despite even current gen still sticking with 1tb total for its hard drive

And its likely not gonna release on ps4 and xbox one

I'll probably stick with gta 5 on my xbox one

[visual hill]

it'll be current-gen only, no way it's cross-gen

[astral steeple]

I could see them making a downgraded version if it happens to release on switch 2 as well

Like a 50 50 chance

[gaunt marten]

GTA 6 3DS

[astral steeple]

Like the switch 2 is close spec wise to the ps4 pro and xbox one s anyways

[visual hill]

GTA for Workgroups

[ripe escarp]

GTA 6 for Alexa

[cerulean herald]

GTA VI for the Ouya

[green fulcrum]

Playing the Avernum 4 remake:

[hushed onyx]

[quiet swift]

[fickle garnet]

After playing about an hour of Project Zomboid, I don't really think its for me

[green fulcrum]

Oh hey, happy birthday!

[arctic fern]

It is better with friends
I would offer to help teach you the basics if it wasnt 1:33am

[fickle garnet]

From what I played, I didn't really enjoy it all that much

[bitter stream]

yeah, the UI sucks and even doing basic things in Project Zomboid requires either a guide or a wiki

[quiet swift]

Thankya! Though it's technically on the 7th. Still the 6th here

[bitter stream]

Happy birthday Tcher

[arctic fern]

Im sorry to hear that
Is it something specific or the whole experience?

I could recommend some youtubers to watch and see the basics

[fickle garnet]

It's just the whole experience that I don't like

[fresh bane]

It's a very... technical game, from what little I've seen of it recently
I remember being super obsessed with wanting to play it all the way back in like 2014 when it was relatively new, but I never managed to get it because I didn't know how to ''acquire'' games, and I don't think I would've been able to run it anyways, I started looking at a couple of videos about it in the last few years but never got super deep into it, just wanted to also see if maybe I would like it all these years later and it does seem like it's made for a super specific type of gamer

DayZ too, back in the day there was just the Arma II mod that I always wanted to try out, but nowadays there's the standalone version which doesn't seem that bad and it's probably a more standard zombie survival game experience, the only thing preventing me from getting it and dumping hours and hours into that game is the price

[cunning galleon]

i love project zomboid ,but i agree its not for everyone

i think im attracted to it because i also enjoyed the walking dead

[cunning galleon]

at this rate im gonna get it without doing anything lol

[bitter stream]

how are you getting the currency?

[cunning galleon]

idk

[quiet swift]

Loooool. The streamer Shroud is calling for his fans to vote for Arc Raiders to get GOTY, saying that "that game" (E33) shouldn't get it. "We multiplayer gamers are in the minority"

The fuck you are

From last year, which games were the most hours spent in. Multiplayer everywhere

[bronze abyss]

league and cs are carried by lithuania 🇱🇹 🦅 🔥

[frozen gate]

elden ring competing with a full list of online games is an achievement

well i suppose that game should have like dark souls style invasions or something but

above minecraft?

[little badger]

Well people said it’s been in development longer. That could just be story planning and other stuff but just recently started after RDR2.

I’ll almost be 31 when it comes out

[cunning galleon]

state troopa

Having fun messing around with shotguns and new cars

[graceful bridge]

https://youtu.be/CogMhlWcxSY?si=c3Pvr48LzE2k4jXO

[wind stump]

It is free DLC.

[cunning galleon]

BAU BAU bau?

[little badger]

@mossy flume https://blog.bioware.com/2025/11/07/n7-day-2025/?

The TV show is set after the trilogy but doesn’t have Shepard

Is it me or do some of the letters in the blog look weird?

[mossy flume]

KROGAN

[worthy rose]

🎂

[little badger]

Where did you see that?

[mossy flume]

Index the italic letters in the order they appear in the blog post

Could also interpret it as KROGAN N7 if bold text indicates a skip signal

[little badger]

So that’s why I was seeing a different font

[arctic fern]

urlkrogan

[wind stump]

well, makes sense
Shepard is a self-insert for the player
I presume the Fallout series did the same thing

(never watched it)

[little badger]

There are also links embedded in the blog files that have YouTube links that take you to an old ME3 MP video

[mossy flume]

BY URL KROGAN N7

[arctic fern]

no idea what thats suppposed to mean, i tried adding the word krogan to the url

then krogan n7

whatever

[mossy flume]

I don’t get it either

[little badger]

[slim thorn]

suspicious use of en dash

[arctic fern]

en dash?

[mossy flume]

A special type of hyphen used in some formal documents which LLMs commonly use when they use a dash of any kind

- vs –

Thanks Discord

[arctic fern]

lol

[mossy flume]

Or — one of those

[arctic fern]

dont tell me they put the text into an llm with the intent of hiding that message into it

[mossy flume]

iOS keyboard natively supports it

[little badger]

Midnight ||did you ever save everyone for the ME2 ending?||

[mossy flume]

Yeah

Vertical lines for spoilers, btw

||text||

[slim thorn]

lol I wasn't even thinking of AI stuff

I was just being oddly specific about dash length but I think I got em and en mixed up anyway

[little badger]

I forgot it was || instead of //

[slim thorn]

it also just feels like textbook ARG stuff to put one of the critical clues in the "there's no clue here I swear" part

flashbacks to Blue Prince's "A New Clue" book

[wind stump]

took me too long to realise the pun in that title

not related to anything in the conversation i just wanted to point out the joke (Blue Prince = Blueprints)

[mossy flume]

BioWare has a habit of doing an ARG on N7 Day

[little badger]

I hope the MP returns for the new game.

[mossy flume]

https://youtu.be/mszWOQ-DC8Q?si=2z648FBi7tZRxN9K

[wind stump]

Didn't even know that was a collab

[mossy flume]

https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/kirby-air-riders-global-test-ride-switch-2/

Kirby Air Riders free demo/beta this weekend

[wind stump]

time to buy a Switch 2 for the only good game on there

£400
ahhhhhhhhh
nahhhhh

[little badger]

New tease

If you try to post the link it brings up tank commands

[cunning galleon]

Pokémon?! Emerald, Ruby and Sapphire?!

Now that I've figured out how mods work, time to download that mlp mod

I've checked out the page and omg cloudy

[wind stump]

i'm crying

[little badger]

@mossy flume teaser found

[ripe escarp]

New dinosaur horror game coming out

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1460210/Compound_Fracture/

Steam

Compound Fracture

It’s 1996, and the sky over New Manitoba City is choked with pollution.

An anonymous whistleblower contacted OSEA, claiming that ChronoGas had violated the federal laws banning the use of time travel. A health and safety enforcer was dispatched to investigate the claims, but found that the situation was more urgent than anyone could have predi…

Release Date

To be announced

▶ Play video

[wind stump]

[little badger]

Halo Infinite will receive it’s last update on November 18th

[wind stump]

Infinite my ass

[little badger]

[ripe escarp]

Halo Finite

[rare dew]

"Halo Infinite" is as honest a title as "final fantasy"

[hasty patio]

I was watching that late last night when he said it. I think it was a joke personally, but I can be wrong.

[mossy flume]

Guess it's the Krogan Rebellions?

[hasty patio]

https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/square-enix-aims-to-have-ai-doing-70-percent-of-its-qa-work-by-the-end-of-2027-which-seems-like-itd-be-hard-to-achieve-without-laying-off-most-of-your-qa-workers/

[mossy flume]

But that doesn't seem terribly interesting enough by itself

[hasty patio]

That would also be a point backwards in time right? Not sure if they want to give a definite ending to 3 quite yet.

[fresh bane]

read some interesting input on this by some QA testers, basically said if they do this then they expect Square games to repeatedly fail the certification process and get delayed over and over again which is gonna cost them a lot, eventually they'll probably revert back on that decision because no matter how you spin it, it's just not gonna work out

It's really puzzling seeing Square continue to commit the same mistakes over and over again, they did this exact same thing of jumping directly on the current fad bandwagon with NFTs too

It's also mindblowing to see AI continued to be used on absolutely everything that AI isn't good for, art and QA testing are two things that are about as human as you can get

there's no algorithm in the world that could replicate or predict the kind of shit gamers tend to do to break games

sometimes you'll just exit a menu in a weird way and boom, game's broken

[hasty patio]

TAS tools tend to, but not in ways that the meat bag can do.

Anyway, feels like they have a lot of money and time. Anything to maybe catch that silver bullet and take advantage of the first mover.

[fresh bane]

Yeah but TAS are set up by a human, they just perform actions that a human being could never hope to physically do, but the actual logic was thought of by a human

[fresh bane]

I dunno, do they? I don't recall when the last layoffs on Squeenix happened and how many, but I doubt they're in a comfy enough position to just do stuff like this and not care whether it pays off or not, it just seems like whoever's in charge doesn't really know what these technologies really are about

I don't think they're gonna go bankrupt or anything but it's probably gonna hurt them if they waste money and resources on doing this

[fresh bane]

in the last 24 hours apparently

[mossy flume]

Yeah. But I do think that the next game is a jump forward in time by a few hundred years, given previous teasers.

[tranquil tartan]

From infinite nikki

[wind stump]

NIKKE???

[worthy rose]

https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/larian-publishing-director-balks-at-square-enixs-push-to-replace-qa-workers-with-ai-the-idea-that-qa-people-can-be-replaced-at-a-large-scale-is-stupid-they-are-a-massively-advantageous-vibe-check/

[little badger]

[fresh bane]

QA testers also massively get fucked over all the time, countless stories of QA testers being given no time, getting told to only report any major issues becuase game companies just want to publish the game ASAP and band-aid anything later, not even getting credited on games, nightmare working situations with clients or bosses/co-workers
and yes, I didn't think about it at first but also the value of QA testing being a gateway job of sorts to get into higher positions in the industry too, sometimes even past QA and intro a designer role

[little badger]

We need more

[graceful bridge]

https://youtu.be/0hELGsD32xE?si=uu6xKMjaJ5_xdsP5

[rotund forge]

@tiny wigeon Tree of Wisdom is 50 feet tall and I'm about to attempt 20 Waves of Survival Endless. Still need that $^#^%$% I, Zombie achievement...

[visual hill]

ironically, I've been doing more QA-type stuff for Godot as I gained experience

since it happens to be what the project needs a lot of (e.g. pull request reviews and tests)

[arctic fern]

Oh yeah
That
Is it good?

[rotund forge]

Overwhelmed at Flag 9...feck

[mossy flume]

Can't shake the feeling that Metroid Prime 4 will fall flat once it lands next month

[gaunt marten]

Keep your expectations low and all surprises will be pleasant

[arctic fern]

My expectations ARE low! Im only expecting it to cure cancer

[visual hill]

reject modernity, return to Quake

[gaunt marten]

Metroid is retro

[fresh bane]

Metroid Prime already probably qualifies to be called retro

[river veldt]

because it's made by Retro ?

[fresh bane]

I think it's gonna be fine, I always saw more people discussing Metroid Prime games more than the actual main series, and people were hyped to see Samus' new bike and new power suit, biggest problem with Prime 4 so far is just the lack of news at all really

[gaunt marten]

Because it's 23 years old

[fresh bane]

aaah hah

[river veldt]

the bike looks badass

[mossy flume]

Subscribe to Metroid Prime, now only $12.99/month

Well there was that new trailer three days ago

https://youtu.be/3fN5zFkeA4A?si=XHmNwpViu1FbBLkV

But yeah

News is quite minimal and the trailers are also showing rather little

The bike amiibo is a chonker

[dense crypt]

Viola

i dig it

[hasty patio]

Should have been the Akira Slide pose.

[fresh bane]

That new power suit looks sexy

Much bulkier than the Dread power suit, I thought they were gonna keep Samus looking a bit slender and smaller going forward but I guess not

also it's ourple now

I wonder what's up with that

[mossy flume]

Seems the purple is related to the bit where she has psychic powers now

Also a third eye on the helmet

I kinda wonder when this is supposed to take place on the timeline

Presumably it's before Dread, which would make sense since the Prime trilogy is early in the timeline. Would also make sense that she has the Prime era bulkier Varia Suit.

[fresh bane]

I never really engaged with the Prime series so I don't really know anything about them and I don't particularly have hype for this new entry myself but I'm not gonna say no to more Metroid if it means gettin another game with Dread quality in the future

I know they're all consistently good but I just like my metroid in 2D

Not expecting a new Metroid game anytime soon after this though, not for a long time

[mossy flume]

Ah, having checked, the general assumption is that it takes place before Super Metroid. So not a huge time skip after Prime 3, fair enough.

Yeah, same

[fresh bane]

that's a weird timeline placement, it's so far back

I was guessing before Fusion maybe

[slim thorn]

yeah the Prime series has always been this oddly small slice of the timeline

but since all the times were vague to begin with, "small" could still be many years

I'm not even sure how much of the timeline is constrained by a human lifespan

[mossy flume]

Yeah, so... the chronological timeline order is:

Metroid NES / Zero Mission
Metroid Prime
Prime Hunters
Metroid Prime 2
Prime 3
Federation Force (lol...)
Prime 4 (presumably)
Metroid II / Return of Samus
Super Metroid
Other M
Fusion
Dread

[mossy flume]

Hm good question. They do have biostasis technology, so they could just make up whatever timespan they wanted

[slim thorn]

oh yeah that's true

Samus could just pull a Master Chief "wake me when you need me" between every game

she's never shown having much of a social life...

[mossy flume]

Heh true

Probably hard to relate to other people when you're part human part bird part parasite part Metroid

[fresh bane]

Maybe she hits up the intergalactical space clubs we don't know

but I also never got the vibe that Samus is necessarily a hero fighting for humanity, I always thought she's just doing whatever job she gets hired to do

so I guess whenever she isn't saving the day she's just doing boring bounty hunter jobs

[mossy flume]

Yeah I believe that's exactly what she's doing for the most part

Just drifting about, taking up odd jobs here and there

Gotta pay those space taxes

[fresh bane]

I don't think she pays any taxes she's kind of the equivalent of living on your car

but in space

[mossy flume]

Spaceship annual registration fees

She did enlist with the Federation as a soldier for a while, but then quit that and just does contract work

Feels like they could explore more about what she's actually been up to in her life between missions. Basically there's just the manga that explores her origins and that's more or less it

[fresh bane]

I do wonder what the lore is on Samus' ship with how unique it seems and how much it changes between games, I wonder if they're standard spaceship models and she gets a new one everytime or if she just customizes it over the years

[hushed onyx]

That makes me think of a Metroid open-world RPG 🤔

Bouncing between planets doing bounty hunter missions or smth.

[fresh bane]

Twilight Princess manga style where Samus speaks and you make her a character rather than a stand-in for the player

[river veldt]

Other M is canon ???

[mossy flume]

Yep

[slim thorn]

was it ever not?

[mossy flume]

Oh that bit is discussed a little bit. All her ships are very unique one-off designs that implement nonstandard technologies

[slim thorn]

I could've sworn the Metroid Prime scan logs of your own ship mention it being "custom", but that might be all we know

[mossy flume]

It changes because Samus keeps commissioning new designs from some shipyard. I guess that's where her money's going

[mossy flume]

Yeah Prime 2 talks about what shipyard they come from

[river veldt]

i hope Prime 4 runs well on Switch 1

[mossy flume]

And Prime... 1(?) mentions how her ship is designed in such a way that it's confusing to IFF systems for both the Federation and Space Pirates

[river veldt]

actually it coming out might push me to finally play Prime 1

[mossy flume]

She has the same ship design in Prime 4 as she does in Prime 3.

Didn't change it out, it seems

[fresh bane]

''Ah Miss Aran, what will it be this time?''

''....can you make it look like my helmet?''

[hasty patio]

She'd have more space credits if she didn't keep getting a new ship every game.

[river veldt]

or maybe i'll just replay Dread for the upteenth time idk

[hasty patio]

Dread from it, Return to it, Prime 4 (somehow) arrives.

[mossy flume]

Oh, right, at least there's some justification for the change occasionally. Her ship is shot down in Zero Mission's epilogue, and in Fusion her ship is destroyed after drifting into an asteroid belt.
But that happens after Prime, so I can only assume she just likes buying ships in her spare time.

[ripe escarp]

We do have a picture of Samus at a space bar or smth actually

[river veldt]

mos eisley core

i love space bars/space restaurants

[visual hill]

[Cantina music starts playing during a shootout with 150 enemies]

[fresh bane]

They do seem to have somewhat settled on the two-winged design since Zero Mission, but who knows maybe in the next game she'll wreck this one too and she'll take out a loan to get a completely new ship

[fresh bane]

that seems about right for what she'd do in her free time, maybe she likes to gamble too

[river veldt]

like the diner from Spaceballs

[fresh bane]

I wonder if she can even take off the suit anymore after Fusion/Dread

[mossy flume]

The purple one from Fusion is a loaner ship that the Federation pushed on her.

[mossy flume]

I think she still can after Fusion, but after Dread I'm quite curious about that too

[river veldt]

how will she eat

[mossy flume]

Straw

[fresh bane]

I think she just eats energy like a metroid now

[mossy flume]

||well that was fixed at the last minute in Dread, it seems, when she absorbed the Chozo X||

But who knows

[fresh bane]

well, hopefully she can take off the helmet at least

[river veldt]

no more space cheeseburgers 😔

[fresh bane]

I guess you could blend them and drink them, but probably not the same experience

[ripe escarp]

One question remains

y cant metroid crawl?

[fresh bane]

We'll never know

[mossy flume]

Because they couldn't figure out how to animate her crawling with the NES' graphics limitations, so they came up with the morph ball mechanic as a result to get around that

What I love about that is in Zero Mission, Samus crawls around in the epilogue sequence

Turns out Metroid can crawl (sometimes)

[visual hill]

also in the Metroid TV ad

[fresh bane]

So I guess she can take off the suit, but not really

[mossy flume]

Oh really?

[river veldt]

oh my god i remember this

[fresh bane]

Functionally the suit would be off whenever she wants it to, but it's less of a ''taking off a suit'' and more of a ''de-materialize'' the suit

[mossy flume]

This is corrrect

[river veldt]

Cali you're talking about this one right
https://youtu.be/LLxOWTifmAs?si=0B0NtTTWyMydyNGr

[mossy flume]

Something this comment doesn't mention is that the suit is actually off by default. She has to actively concentrate to keep her suit materialized.

[fresh bane]

Helmet being removable is good, space cheeseburgers are still an option

[river veldt]

we are so back

[robust latch]

damn it now i want a cheeseburger

[river veldt]

the other day i had the greatest cheeseburger ive ever eaten

[fresh bane]

so I guess that means that whenever people complain about Samus' anatomy not quite fitting the suit, that when she puts on the suit she is actually just re-arranging her anatomy to fuse with the suit... but at this point we all know Samus is a weird human-alien hybrid so I guess it's not that weird that she can do that

[mossy flume]

Other M makes an implicit reference to this when Samus loses her focus and her suit vanishes, and she briefly struggles to reactivate it during her panic attack when confronting Ridley

(Still think that was a really dumb way to depict her PTSD, but whatever)

[river veldt]

preaching to the choir my man

[mossy flume]

Other M made choices

[mossy flume]

Yep yep. Although I do like that Dread pointedly made her suit's anatomy more plausible.

[fresh bane]

Which I really really like, the standard power suit at least anyways, the other suits get a bit bulkier like she's supposed to be, but even then they still made sure it looks like it could be worn and I think it's my favourite design, the Varia suit is literally perfect she looks fantastic in this game

the only suit I really dislike is the Fusion suit, I just think it looks really ugly but I guess I'm in the minority because people seem to generally like it

[mossy flume]

I like the Fusion Suit, but it is a bit different

[slim thorn]

like a lot of things about Fusion

[river veldt]

i like all the suits in Dread

i like the ourple one

[rancid herald]

you should be grateful that it's not some sort of thai mexican fusion food suit

[mossy flume]

Dread's suits are hecking awesome

[rancid herald]

imagine, if you can, Samus with a giant sombrero

[river veldt]

imagined

now what

[mossy flume]

All of the suits they've designed for her have been pretty epic, but I think the Dark Suit is my least favorite of the bunch

Still great, mind, just not as good as the others IMO

[river veldt]

yeah not a big fan of it

[mossy flume]

Light Suit is pretty cool though

[river veldt]

hold on

ok yeah this one is cool

[mossy flume]

Yeah, the Dread suits are potentially my favorites

[rotund forge]

[mossy flume]

Although Prime 1's suits were quite cool too. I'm kinda low-key obsessed with the lighting shaders used on the GameCube rendering for the Gravity Suit
The PED Suit in Prime 3 was neat, but it's kinda unfortunate how it doesn't change throughout the game aside from apparent levels of corruption

[visual hill]

yes

[rotund forge]

So....Much....Pain....

Need to get to Flag 20, and each wave is 2 flags. So I was literally on the last wave, but forgot to bring basic attack plants after the last wave ended

fml

[bitter stream]

oof, that's rough, good luck next go

[tiny wigeon]

having fun yet?

i love pvz so much haha

[rotund forge]

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[dense crypt]

MECH
WARRIOR

[wind stump]

these shits remind me of Koroks

[rotund forge]

I have news! So if I click restart and then close the game, it sends me back to just before the last wave starts, letting me repick my plants and have a semblance of a chance

[light gate]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/544610/view/570395033724780780?l=english

Battlestar Galactica Deadlock will be delisted on Nov 15.

[arctic fern]

Isn't that game single player? Why delisted? Wtf?

[wind stump]

We love licensed games

[light gate]

Licenses expire and are often never renewed. This applies to most movie or tv series video games.

[slim thorn]

this is the first time I've heard of a licensed video game being delisted on license expiry

I thought the time frame part of the contract was just about when it gets developed and released, and that game remains sellable forever

[wind stump]

i think some of the Lego games have had that happen

[quiet swift]

I think there was a game delisted because a soundtrack song lost the license, and they had to delist the entire game

[arctic fern]

alan wake yeah

[arctic fern]

bit shit if they dont do a final sale

i have the game and would like to get the DLCs but not for 65 fucking quid

[quiet swift]

Actually no, spec ops the line had that issue too

[tiny wigeon]

In gaming we call that “save scumming”

It’s your play-through tho, don’t let anyone tell you how to play

[slim thorn]

I call it "good checkpoints"

save scumming in the negative sense is when you intentionally abuse good checkpoints when you could've had more fun rising to the challenge, but that's a big if/when; only you can make that call for your playthrough

[minor plover]

save scumming, specifically, is when you violate the way a game's built-in checkpoints work. Like, in Nethack, when you die, your save is deleted (you're supposed to start a new character) but some people copy their save so they can go back to it.

[slim thorn]

huh, I've never heard that usage

in my world the textbook case of "save scumming" was when one of those classic PC games lets you press F5 to save literally anywhere, and you use that to do micro-saves after every single jump or enemy kill or every few steps of a stealth segment

[minor plover]

it originated in the roguelike community, where creating backup saves to avoid permadeath was considered "scummy" behavior

[slim thorn]

interesting

[wind stump]

*Wheeeeeee*

BEST GAME EVER

[visual hill]

I kind of have to do that when playing VeteranEye (a challenge mod for GoldenEye), it's very hard even on keyboard/mouse and knowing the game's mechanics

some of the enemies literally need 5 headshots to die

[wind stump]

why do i hear Undefeatable in the distance

[rotund forge]

And it didn't even work. AND NOW THIS

I HATE THIS CELESTIA FORSAKEN GAME

thank you for gifting it to me

[mossy flume]

Reminder: Kirby Air Riders beta on the Switch 2 is running right now

[bitter stream]

yeah yeah! I got to try a little bit just before, It's as fun as i remember it being on the game cube

I'm so excited to play it properly when it comes out

[rugged flax]

Shipbreaker beaten, debt paid, I am no longer Lynx property

[robust latch]

Lol at that last fee

[rotund forge]

@tiny wigeon SUCK IT PVZ!! I AM YOUR GOD!!!

Turns out Cob Cannons are infinitely worth the sun if you can get them on the field early. That and Pumpkin and Magnet shroom and doom shroom and...

[rugged flax]

also fun fact
guess who is the voice of the suit in Shipbreaker

[violet hill]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1143048932298080266/1436841598553166005/image.png?ex=69111284&is=690fc104&hm=ecbcc9f217362da196077a043551e65429e7c4bb2f2a7f845b8218fe8fcb1494&=

A survivalcraft spelunker platformer game kinda like Noita and Rain World had a baby with a touch of Starbound's tile system and asthetics, and Rimworld's medical mechanics. It pulls no punches. You will feel bad for putting your character through the pain and agony they'll experience on the mission to retrieve The Experiment.

https://orsonik.itch.io/scav-prototype

[rugged flax]

i can't get the last achievement without going through the career mode campaign again

[rotund forge]

Wat dis

[frozen gate]

Hardspace: Shipbreaker?

[quiet swift]

I should try that, think i got it free on epic

.speaking of, i should check the new free game

[rugged flax]

thanks to some save file trickery, i have the final achievement
Shipbreaker 100%'d

[wind stump]

LET'S GO GAMBLING

[wind stump]

SHORK

[wind stump]

these little shits are still very cute

[graceful bridge]

Follow up to the previous video I posted:

https://youtu.be/xdSCKNTvSQc?si=PvFlihMo-T4fvn-Q

[random steppe]

Don't you do my boy dirty like that

Wait it's talking about Witcher 1 or 2?

[graceful bridge]

snrk In this case, he's talking the original Witcher game which... was really janky.

[random steppe]

Then I don't agree necessarily, I think that one was always janky, age didn't make it any worse IMO, but I am bias since I love it

[wind stump]

Me with Borderlands 1

aged like a fine milk!

for real tho i think the budget was like, 17 yen

[visual hill]

Witcher 1 is probably outclassed by Gothic 1/2 if you want a janky euro RPG

[hushed onyx]

Yeah, Witcher was notoriously janky from Day One. If anything, time made it (somewhat) better because the unexpected success of the game and later the series led them to go back and do an Enhanced Edition that made it less janky if you played it later.

[slim thorn]

in fact I would've picked Witcher 3 for worst aged, because it came out when that style of open world was still fresh and interesting, but these days I typically see it trotted out as one of the few non-Ubisoft examples of why people have Ubisoft open world fatigue

[green fulcrum]

The original two Gothic games are super janky, yeah. But they're still kinda cool. They've got some great atmosphere and world building, all things considered.

[random steppe]

Witcher 2 I feel has aged horrendously gameplay wise, Witcher 3 has some weird quirks (quen spam is uninteresting) and the open world is mechanically uninspired but the gameplay moment to moment is fun at least

[slim thorn]

I've never understood the dislike of specifically W2's gameplay. It's not great, but "get better gear and spam quen" was the solution to everything in both 2 and 3 when I played them. Both are games I played for the story and still consider that the correct approach.

I guess to me it's in that same tier as the Final Fantasies whose gameplay loop is attack-attack-cure until the next cutscene

[random steppe]

To be specific, the problem in my opinion with W2 gameplay is that it's a fake action game, and has some design choices that are baffingly bad for the genre (it being the first attempt at an action game the studio did)

Like starting from the light attack, there are like, 3 different animation for a light attack, that have wildly different time between the wind up and the hit, meaning that if you start an attack, you actually have no idea when it's going to be done and you can defend again

[slim thorn]

weird, that does sound terrible and I don't remember it at all

maybe it stops mattering when you embrace the quen spam

[random steppe]

My main problem with it is that it being a rpg running in the background of an action game, the attacks generally don't have to actually hit your character to hit you.
They just have to hit in your general vicinity as your hitbox doesn't match the character model all that closely.

This making avoiding damage kind of weird and yeah, the quen spam is the crutch that makes the game playable at all IMO

[visual hill]

yeah, can't bring myself to finish it

but it's also because I don't particularly like the story or writing

[slim thorn]

being that open does make the story less focused, which is why I've always favored W2

[random steppe]

Like, if I don't have the quen on, I don't feel comfortabe approaching any enemy in W2 because I don't feel I can trust the game in being fair

[visual hill]

what I mean is, if you want that style of game, Gothic will serve you better

[random steppe]

W3 is not perfect gameplay wise, but it's better
I can work with it, there is a guard that works pretty well, there are more tools to work around the admittedly still a bit janky combat

[slim thorn]

in particular W2 has way more meaningful story choices, to a degree I've still hardly ever seen matched, which makes the gameplay problems a shame... though I suppose you could say the exact same thing about Planescape Torment

[random steppe]

Also yeah, you'll never see me say anything bad about W2 story

As for W3 I may have preffered W2 story but Blood and Wine kind of stole my heart and never gave it back

[slim thorn]

that was a great DLC yeah

[random steppe]

So it's an harder choice

[slim thorn]

you have to have already given a hundred hours to the game to be in a position to engage with it, but still

[random steppe]

The story is kind of self contained to be fair

[slim thorn]

it is, but I don't think there's a practical way for someone to play just B&W without the rest of W3? not that I've specifically checked

[random steppe]

Quite the opposite

There is a specific option to start directly in the DLC

Like explicitly so

That said, you kinda still lose on the ||epilogue of your chosen romantic interest from the main game joining you in your new farm in the dreamy french landscape||

IDK if you can take that save and then go in the main game with it, it'd be a bit weird

Especially since it starts you at like level 30 or so

[slim thorn]

gtk then, maybe at sale prices that could be a reasonable recommendation

[graceful bridge]

In anticipation of tomorrow's launch:

#1437127671376117861

[gaunt marten]

I don't think the Witcher 2 aged poorly because it was poor on release

[wind stump]

The Koco are very cute

[quiet swift]

I think I didn't finish witcher 1 because of the jank. Did finish 2 though, I believe

Watched a let's play of 1 because that's what was still a thing back then

[slim thorn]

I couldn't finish a let's play of 1

[bronze abyss]

hell yeah

for context of the ranks

got play of the game for my rank up as well

[quiet swift]

me: trying to play tempest rising. Insta crash window when pressing play on steam. Tech support so far has not been helpful, nothing they suggest works.

Also me: current working workaround: running the game on steam deck, connecting a mouse and keyboard to the steam deck dock, as well as an hdmi cable to the dock so that it's displaying on my TV

[bitter stream]

oh that's annoying, how the heck is it crashing on Steam but not on Steam deck lol

[quiet swift]

It seems to be a gpu issue, somehow?

Like when I launch it, the UE 5 window appears and this is the crash dump:

(well the actual crash dump probably has more info but that's the basic window's contents)

[rugged flax]

https://www.humblebundle.com/games/board-game-all-stars-renegade-game-studios

who likes board games

7 games for $55

[rotund forge]

@tiny wigeon I WIN

And TIME!

Well that was an experience. Wish I could play PvZ 2 but it's far too large and complicated and microtransaction riddled for me to even consider it

[cerulean herald]

yeah pvz2 is shit in that regard

[quiet swift]

there's apparently some mods or patches that remove the microtransactions?

[bronze abyss]

there are,some completely rework the game in its entirety including those systems

though tbf,you really do not need the paid plants at all to do pvz2

[quiet swift]

(i mostly know because a youtuber i follow has been on a pvz binge and he was desperately trying to figure out what to use for pvz2)

[proud warren]

I think the one you're referring to is PvZ2: reflourished

[quiet swift]

that sounds right

[cunning galleon]

My mom loves pvz 2

Hasn't spent a dime on it for 5 years

And there's a, bunch of cool plans, she likes the prehistoric peashooter and sunflower

[cerulean herald]

some of the plants are amazing
its just...wish they were in a better game

[glad girder]

has anyone here played RV There Yet? I just picked it up and it looks like a ton of fun

it's like Peak but you can smoke indoors and drink and drive your RV

[cunning galleon]

I've watched Grian play it

[toxic seal]

Weird bug in Tales of Xillia Remastered
There's two items: the Holy Bottle and Dark Bottle. When used they keep enemies below your level away or make enemies chase you more, respectively. The effects are meant to last a couple minutes each time you use one.
I noticed when I used one the effect just... didn't stop. Turns out something with the higher framerate options messes with the items' duration. The original game on PS3 ran at 30FPS but the remaster allows for 60 or 120FPS, and setting the game to either of those affects how particles are animated, and floating particles is how you know the Holy/Dark bottles are working. The particles being rendered too much/too fast makes the game miss a timer or something. Turning the game down to 30FPS makes the items properly expire.

[cunning galleon]

To whom it may concern:
Do you bury some bodies in project zomboid?

I bury LEO, Military and Bandit zombies

And burn criminals

[plain harbor]

Managed to snag 2 free months on BFII's Kyber servers (from the KYBER server/mod project; community-run servers that support mods, have various QOL features and are actually moderated (meaning no hackers - if bad actor do get in, they can't do anything because the Kyber servers have an anti-cheat system built in that thankfully doesn't mess with mods and will auto-kick any detected hackers), full free access to Kyber v2 coming soon). It's nice being able to play the game (especially the two modes people play most, Galactic Assault and Supremacy) and not have to hope that hackers won't ruin a match with their shit.

[bitter stream]

oh nice Waning Moon, hope you enjoy

[wind stump]

God, Cloud Kill in Borderlands 2 is extremely busted

Especially with the amount of armored enemies you fight in the back half, I can literally just shoot a loader once and watch the corrosive damage shred through them in a second with no input

[bronze abyss]

Best bl2 strat is jakobs double barrel+jakobs revolver+jakobs sniper

[cunning galleon]

I started a new playthrough in zomboid and I'm living out of a box truck again

But i came across a survivor home! W

I wanna try setting up permanent base in Rosewood Fire Department

[cunning galleon]

Ok i legit can't find my base in the map viewer

I'm sure it was Rosewood but like.. I think i drove a lot

[cunning galleon]

I apparently wasn't in rosewood??

[cunning galleon]

That run was bullshit ngl, for some reason there's a fuck ton of zombies as if it's insane population

It was on low

[arctic fern]

might ahve been a hoard event, or some locations have higher zombie spawns