general gaming

[random steppe]

Is it though?

[frozen gate]

they do have rathalos in ffxiv and behemoth hunt in mhwo

[fresh bane]

So I don't want to share any articles/videos about the subject that have popped up on my feed just because I've seen conflicting accounts over whether this is a nothing problem getting blown way out of proportion or an actual serious issue and I don't want to alarm people over nothing, but I have been seeing a lot of talk about this latest Windows update that supposedly can completely break your SSD if you transfer a large enough amount of files at once causing the system to not recognize the disk is connected anymore and possibly corrupting or deleting data, seen a lot of videos with alarming titles and thumbnails and articles about it and recommending people uninstall the last update, but not enough for it to seem like a big widespread issue
so I was at least wondering if there were any computer nerds here that might have heard about this issue or not

[wind stump]

finally
i can mount Omega Monster Hunter

ignore the fact its been a mount since Stormblood-

[bitter stream]

Not sure myself, though I've heard similar things, the folks in #science-and-tech might know more

[frozen gate]

i think it was discussrd here before actually

lemme see

yaa it was

[fresh bane]

Ah I see, I didn't scroll back up far enough on that channel

I guess it might be worth it to roll back the latest windows update then maybe...

[sacred grove]

To my understanding, it only potentially affects certain brands of SSD

But yeah, I think there's an element of sensationalism to this story versus the sheer number of Windows installations out there. It's real, but I don't believe it's anywhere close to universal

[visual hill]

Operation Na Pali in Unreal Tournament is pretty nice. Hilarious voice acting, too - par of the course for 2002 🙂

you get to fly a plane at some points too

[fresh bane]

oh god oh fuck oh god oh fuck oh god oh fuck oh god

[fresh bane]

wait, Unreal Tournament has a campaign?

[river veldt]

Metroid Dread is still probably my favorite Metroidvania ive played

Hollow Knight is very close though

[slim thorn]

I forget, have you tried Prime?

[river veldt]

just a little bit

i should play more tbh, all ive done is the intro

[slim thorn]

yeah, Prime's worth playing if only to find out whether you like it, since afaik no other game (besides the Prime sequels) ever tried to emulate that particular flavor of FPS/metroidvania

[fresh bane]

AH!

I'm just trying to get my damn morph ball upgrade man leave me alone

[slim thorn]

iirc you never need to do wall kicks, so it might be easier to find the intended route by not doing those?

[fresh bane]

chriiiiist

[fresh bane]

it's a habit I gotta learn when not to do, the same with where I'm jumping since the jumps work differently in metroid

[slim thorn]

oh damn you tried to do that wall kick (0:04)

[fresh bane]

also charge shot yay

[slim thorn]

I think that was a legit speed trick

[fresh bane]

It looked like I could do it but I only figured out at the last second I had raised the water level so i could slide down

I tried it again on the other two walls but I couldn't kick off of them

[slim thorn]

yeah I think it's the speedrun trick to avoid dealing with the water level

https://youtu.be/nTkdt1a88eA?t=530 oh apparently it's this kick? maybe I'm thinking of an older route

[river veldt]

i know it's the style but i really wish Elden Ring had a pause button

[toxic seal]

https://worldoftanks.com/en/news/general-news/update-2-0-gift/ World of Tanks 2.0 on the horizon, and they just revealed that they are giving a HUGE account bonus to every player.
They are giving everyone the top end of any tech tree branch of their choice, tier 6-10. This essentially means that players get an entire branch without having to grind for it. As anyone who has grinded for high tier tanks can tell you, this is massive.
New to World of Tanks? It gets even better because you get to do this twice and also 4 free premium tanks (tanks you normally need to pay real money for).

[slim thorn]

the convention I like which I've seen a lot of recently is having a real pause button with a tiny menu of things like quitting the game, and a second button for in-game menus like maps and skill trees and whatnot that may or may not pause the game

[river veldt]

yeah Hollow Knight does that and i like it

[visual hill]

UT99 has all the Unreal 1 monsters (even UT2004 has them), so many mods restore Unreal 1-style gameplay and weapons

UT99 is generally considered a better platform for modding because of better netcode (= better coop) and a few more engine features

even with modern patches, this still applies as OldUnreal strives to maintain backwards compatibility with vanilla servers

[gaunt marten]

This reads like an ad

[visual hill]

UT99 also has an official singleplayer campaign, but it's just a series of bot matches with some set dressing. UT2003/2004 were the same, but with better set dressing (you could even hire teammates, place bets, etc)

[fresh bane]

Ah, it's a mod, that makes sense then
I was wondering because I never played Unreal Tournament but I always associated with being multiplayer only

[toxic seal]

I mean it is a huge incentive to play

I have not been paid by Wargaming

I'm just excited for tanks

[gaunt marten]

I'm glad you're excited!

[cunning galleon]

Holy shit

Man, sucks i don't play WoT

I dropped it for war thunder

[gaunt marten]

https://i.imgur.com/iBChiSY.png https://i.imgur.com/MVOxPD4.png

This guy made seven accounts and is moving them one by one so they can carry resources for him

They all have paid memberships and he's controlling them manually so I can't report him for botting

I think they're helping him train his construction skill as fast as possible.

It costs ~15 dollars a month to buy membership for each of them (unless you spend in-game money to buy it from someone who paid real money)

[minor plover]

if someone is willing to spend a hundo a month on helper accounts to level up, more power to him

[gaunt marten]

He should just do like what sane people do and pay people to run resources for him

It's cheaper and more efficient

The game even has an NPC you can hire that runs some construction-specific resources for you but that's not enough to reach the fastest possible rate

https://i.imgur.com/hQ3shRT.png https://i.imgur.com/lJb2dUo.png

Oh they're all training their prayer individually

And they do have someone at the altar making sure the candles are lit to improve efficiency

[slim thorn]

I just saw someone describe The Stanley Parable as "the Backrooms but hilarious" and I'm not sure how to feel about that

[quiet swift]

[cunning galleon]

They were right

[bronze abyss]

respawned as blue baby earlier in the run after d100 fuckery and ended up beating ultra greed nearly stock

[proud warren]

nice: never have to do greed(ier) mode blue baby ever again

[bronze abyss]

it was a tainted jacob run initially

but its fine im more comfortable with that than blue baby

[proud warren]

blue baby is... fine

the buffs in repentance certainly made them better

[bronze abyss]

i dont like it,tainted and normal blue baby are my most hated characters easily

blue baby duo and tainted cain are like the opposite of fun

[proud warren]

they're quite boring, yeah

but I still cant wrap my head around a few of the tainted characters

[bronze abyss]

which ones?

[proud warren]

namely t. Laz and t. Cain

t. Laz I have literally not accomplished anything with

[bronze abyss]

thanks for reminding me i actually still need to unlock t laz

[proud warren]

My brain can't comprehend juggling 2 characters in 1 body like that

[river veldt]

Tainted Cain is so interesting

Minecraft

[proud warren]

with Jacob and Esau it's at least literally 2 individuals

[proud warren]

I refuse to have the wiki open 24/7 for a single character's crafting recipes

[river veldt]

that's totally fair lmao

[bronze abyss]

if you're playing on pc the item description mod does it for you,theres alsoa website that gives the recipes

https://tcain.heyn.live/

[proud warren]

yeah but like

remembering what I need to search for for certain items gets to me mentally

especially if I've been searching 2 separate floors looking for 1 specific thing

(i.e. a lucky penny or something)

[bronze abyss]

i more of hate it cuz i prefer just speedrunning floors

[proud warren]

yeah

[bronze abyss]

thats why i love t lost,t lillith,and both azazels

[proud warren]

t. cain runs can run you up to 2 hours a run

[bronze abyss]

with t lost theres barely any min maxing to do you just go at it and not skill issue,the other 2 are self explanatory

[river veldt]

i cant do Tainted Lost i am not good enough at the game lol

[bronze abyss]

blank card and you got a run,especially with 4.5v

like its almost impossible to fail with that combo

[proud warren]

both apollyon's are incredibly boring as a character, but at least they get results

[bronze abyss]

normal lilith is so underrated love her gameplay

like almost any build can be fun

[proud warren]

initially I couldn't stand lilith

[river veldt]

i think my favorite characters are Isaac, Tainted Lilith, and Judas

[proud warren]

that's all I have to say on lilith

[bronze abyss]

ooh t judas completely forgot

absolute top tier in fun as well

[proud warren]

t. judas is so funny in certain circumstances

[river veldt]

i meant normal Judas but Tainted Judas is super fun too

[bronze abyss]

id be willing to do a no item run with t judas hes just amazing

glass canon and 4.5v on laz thats gonna be interesting

[bronze abyss]

boy i sure love going for a tainted unlock and not getting a single trinket the entire run

amazing game,simply cinema,kino even

fuck this i had enough of this games bullshit for today

[cunning galleon]

They got obliterated by flak

[quiet swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o41Jg69bFGc haven't come across this channel before, but unexpectedly wholesome. People just enjoying the heck out of a random player just playing and communicating with a piano.

[wind stump]

why is Marin Dress Up Darling in the thumbnail

[fresh bane]

Clearly Marin plays MW3 in her free time

[cunning galleon]

Spitfire! And a Bf-109

[quiet swift]

[little badger]

Gameplay reveal on the 3rd

[quiet swift]

Huh. THought it was more recent than june 2024. Still, that's a big discount in a single year

[gaunt marten]

https://i.imgur.com/77StYA4.png

Perfect RNG on the struggling sapling random event

For this event, when you cut a tree, there's a chance that the sapling struggles to grow, and you need to assemble nutritious mulch to help it grow using five randomly placed piles of mulch materials

You have to experiment and figure out which order of three materials is best for the sapling. In this case, the best ordering was droppings, then green leaves, then droppings.

Typically you have to run between distant piles and then bring the assembled mulch to the sapling so you can use it, which wastes a lot of time running around

For this event, the perfect combination of piles spawned right next to the sapling, so I could do the whole event without taking a single step

[rancid herald]

iirc it released a year earlier on epic

[fickle garnet]

I'm replaying Batman Arkham Knight, and I forgot how good it is

[river veldt]

yeah it's a great game

probably one of the best looking games ive played

[green fulcrum]

HYPE. SOOOOO MUCH HYPE. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBthH_fx2Bw

[dense crypt]

Dank heresy

[bronze abyss]

this fucking ad jumpscared me

[green fulcrum]

....How even?

Oh, missed the word "ad"

[fresh bane]

internal screaming

thank you adam....

[fresh bane]

best suit: get

I'll cherish all the time left with the Varia suit in this game because the next suit upgrade I really don't like as much at all

also this Kraid boss is kicking my ass right now

being able to still control what you do during the counter sequences is my favourite thing, sometimes like during the final counter to deal the finishing blow you can fail them, most of the times if you press the missile button and just spam it's just an easy way to deal damage, and it's a really small thing, but it's so much better and interactive than having a giant button in the screen telling you to mash to deal damage, it feels very natural and immersive and it's a small sort of detail I've only ever really encountered in a game like DMC5 where you can do similar grabs with Nero and in the middle of those long grab animations you can do things like use your Exceeds or even Max Act, use your Devil Trigger in the middle of the sequence for extra damage and even shoot your summoned swords, all without the game explicitly telling you you can or have to do that, you just do it, it feels *really good

and I almost can't believe this is actually a part of the game people had an issue with, lots of die-hard veteran Metroid fans thought these little semi-QTE sequences were legitimately an awful part of the game and I can't wrap my head around it

the whole game is really just full of incredibly nice and satisfying QoL features like that, even just something as simple as being able to counter while in the air, hanging, while running, shooting while sliding, shooting and aiming in the air or while sliding, etc

it just all contributes to making the game feel so smooth and natural to play

I'm re-realizing just how much I really love Dread replaying it now

[sonic dune]

Why can't I just play RDR2

[gaunt marten]

What operating system is this?

[light gate]

That's an Xbox OS, or modified Windows OS for Xbox.

[sonic dune]

This is my Xbox series x
Or s
I don't remember

[light gate]

Try restarting the console, if that doesn't work... then you gonna have to talk to Xbox support.

[sonic dune]

Xbox support has literally never helped me with a technical issue and has only ever caused more problems

I lost my previous long term Minecraft world because of advice they gave me

[light gate]

Sounds about right.

[sonic dune]

According to IT people I've spoken with over the years I tend to have "unusual" and "honestly esoteric" problems with tech

Like the amount of times I've had to tell an IT person I literally don't have the button they're telling me to press and then I share my screen or take a screenshot and I straight up don't have that setting
That shouldn't happen at all, let alone multiple times

Back in GA I played every game with half of my HUD missing because neither the TV nor the Xbox had the settings that let you adjust where the screen is
Like I'd follow instructions and then I'd be on the right screen, but there's just no button for adjustments

They'd show me a screenshot with the button circled in red
I'd reply with my own with my nothing circled in red

[light gate]

Well that sucks.

Reminds me of how I had a funny issue where I wanted to use the Windows Game Bar record feature but it kept saying my GPU was not supported (it was but it also wasnt turns out), so I contacted Windows/MS support and told me it was an Xbox support thing and would be transfered, then I was transfered and told this was a Windows/MS support thing and would be transfered, then the same thing happened and got sent back to Xbox support. The third time they told me to just do a few powershell scripts and that broke my entire Windows install and had to nuke it.

Turns out, the old gpu I had was not an AMD HD 7600 series minimum, but a rebadged gpu that was like 5000 series but renamed to 7670. So yeah, that was cool to find out after a year of the reset incident.

[sonic dune]

Luckily my current TV doesn't have this problem
However I can't pair any remotes to it

RDR2 is now downloading, and taking the amount of time you'd expect it to download, instead of instantly downloading

So I can only assume it's working now

If not I'm going to crash out

[light gate]

I think it should be okay now.

Console stability really has gotten lower lately. My PS5 crashes every time I browse too much on the Playstation Store.

[sonic dune]

Surprisingly Fo4 has been surprisingly resistant to crashes for me lately

Despite me having a load of mods with zero to no care in the load order

I've had 1 crash, despite me currently moving at mach 70 thanks to cheat terminal

[fresh bane]

I almost can't believe I got away with that

[cunning galleon]

Captured Bf-109 with some random camo and an umamusume

[little badger]

Silksong is coming to game pass

[static bluff]

wowza

[slim thorn]

so much for Nine Sols getting a gamepass boost

[static bluff]

lol so, you say that, but I was more excited about that since hollow knight wasn't really my jam

[slim thorn]

yeah it probably will still be a non-zero boost

especially if they hang around longer than it takes people to finsih Silksong; how long do these usually last?

[little badger]

Depends on how long the publisher wants to be on it. Not sure how much it costs them

[little badger]

Switch 1 users can get a free upgrade

[graceful bridge]

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2025/09/02/xbox-game-pass-september-2025-wave-1/

Yep, it's official.

[little badger]

[slim thorn]

today and tomorrow are gonna be all about trying to finish my current metroidvania before Silksong's out

[random steppe]

I'm playing POE2 new league so I hopefully can addiction myself into not notcing time passes

[little badger]

I hope they make it original to the games like the older ones

[quartz pawn]

So looks like FF6 is getting the Octopath Traveller treatment and I'm so here for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i49V5YeUhM

[random steppe]

Oh damn, what an overhaul

I'll definitely replay 6 like that

[quartz pawn]

I'm still playing 6, but this makes me wanna stop and wait for it to come out! Lmao

[static bluff]

I've never played 6, but I've seen people play it a lot. Maybe now is my chance to give it a go.

[frozen gate]

why's octopath traveler in the title haha

help from acquire?

mostly saying cuz they've done other games with this style unrelated to octopath, like dq3 hd-2d

triangle strategy and live-a-live remake, too

[random steppe]

I assume they are using the same engine

[frozen gate]

i think they all used UE4 from what i can tell

[rancid herald]

I assume chris pratt voices one of the guns?

[little badger]

I seen a post about actors confirmed for the characters. I think it was just a joke

[little badger]

@green fulcrum

[green fulcrum]

Nice win!

[little badger]

[little badger]

You’ll be able to play soon

[green fulcrum]

Well, I'm waiting on a sale. I'll miss out on the Werehog, but he's not worth paying about $100 for the game. I can get the digital deluxe Prime characters and the DLC season pass characters any day.

[little badger]

They will probably give it for free eventually. Did you manage to play the beta?

[green fulcrum]

Nah, missed out on it

[little badger]

Ah.

[fresh bane]

I have gotten some pretty gnarly wins too

my favourite thing is when everyone gets super chatty and giddy in the lobby, it's really charming

[bitter stream]

How are you enjoying the new league? Have you tried Act 4 by anychance? I've been having too much fun with PoE 2 0.3

[little badger]

Iykyk

[random steppe]

I have been taking my sweet time, halfway through act 2,unlikely I will reach act 4 before Silksong release sadly

I have been enjoying the buffs to grenades though

[bitter stream]

ooh nice nice

And fair enough on Silksong, PoE 2 will be here after you've been absorbed in and hollowed out by Silksong

[random steppe]

Yeah, and besides it's a rapidly evolving game, even if I don't end up getting to maps this time around there is always next league

[bitter stream]

yup yup,. exactly

[random steppe]

Sprint is a great addition for sure though

[bitter stream]

so good, you can move through zones or search for hidden stuff so much easier

heck, some speedrunner types have been using it in combat and skill canceling to maximise survivability

[random steppe]

I like the tradeoff that it toss you down too

[bitter stream]

oh yeah, a stiff breeze will heavy stun you haha

[random steppe]

I wonder if they will add some stuff to it and integrate with the combat more with unique or keystones that change how it behaves

[bitter stream]

Hmm yeah, not sure, I suspect boss design will be influenced in the future

[random steppe]

I think that it's been recieved well enough that it's here to stay at least

[bitter stream]

nods oh for sure. And Asynchronous trade has made my day a few times haha, so I expect that'll stay too

[random steppe]

I have yet to mess with it but yeah, love that it exists

[bitter stream]

yeah, though it does sort of make crafting a "later game" thing for me past act 4. The basic 2 affix crafting is easy enough, but regals and exalts can buy you a whole upgrade for 1 orb guarenteed

at least, I suspect that's how I'll be using it, i'm sure there's some way to use it more early on

[random steppe]

At least they did change essences, they are probably worth messing with without spending exalted

[bitter stream]

ah yeah, that's a good point

Though I do wish you saw more essences during earlier acts haha, but maybe the RNG was just rough for me, and I imagine if you get stuck, farming zones would let you see more

[cunning galleon]

Crash plane!!! Plaaaane.

[cunning galleon]

lol, I'm alone

[hasty patio]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3799610/MechWarrior_5_Mercenaries__Shadow_of_Kerensky/

Steam

MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries - Shadow of Kerensky

The year is 3050, and the Inner Sphere is under siege. The Clans have returned.
Take command of your battle-hardened Mercenary Company as you're hired by the Rasalhague Republic to hold the line against an overwhelming new enemy. What begins as a routine mission quickly escalates into a desperate fight for survival, uncovering secrets tied to y…

Price

$19.99

▶ Play video

[bitter stream]

Is MechWarrior Battletech inspired?

[hushed onyx]

Mechwarrior is Battletech.

Specifically, it's the sub-franchise of first-person mech operator/commander video games in the Battletech universe.

[bitter stream]

oh interesting, thanks

[hasty patio]

Battletech is closer to the TTG side of things (and the original actually). Mechwarrior is more "real"/arcadey with the piloting of mechs and the like (think MWO as the best example).

[bitter stream]

how is Mech Warrior 5's base game? I see there's a lot of DLC for it, with the one linked above being the newest. Is the base game any good or is it like a paradox games situaiton where you need the dlc to really get the experience

[hasty patio]

Base game is decent enough. Most of the DLCs add specific mechs, weapons, usually a set of missions/unique starts. A lot of popular mods do require most/all of them (currently broken because of the now-released newest DLC).

[astral steeple]

Oh Marvel rivals is releasing on ps4

Took them long enough

Maybe xbox one eventually too

[bitter stream]

Fair enough, thanks for the info. Modding i hear is really good in Mech warrior, so that puts the price point a bit higher than I'm really excited for.

Oh neat, i wonder what they had to do to make Rivals work on the ps4

[hasty patio]

As always, give it a look of Twitch/Youtube and see if that is okay with you.

[bitter stream]

oh true

[wind stump]

https://youtu.be/VvuZjLhnDh4

[visual hill]

oh nice, they do Talos speedruns

I lost a few seconds at the end because I forgot to play in simplified chinese.
heh, language tricks in speedruns will never get old. I remember Perfect Dark speedrunners playing in French because it makes the objective success text shorter, and therefore less distracting

I did a few trickjumps I'm not supposed to when playing Talos, it's fun

[frozen gate]

it's always interesting when they play in a language that isn't chinese or japanese, bc it usually just makes sense why those are faster most of the time

so it's always some weird quirk that makes them pick a different one

[frozen gate]

more meaning conveyed in less characters ^

[sage iris]

my electricity bill went up 3 times after I got my new pc 🥀

[bitter stream]

oh no T_T

[sage iris]

I love how I'm running essentially an equivalent of a whole ass microwave at full power

[visual hill]

I saw a 20% increase or so on the total power bill after upgrading

I don't use a lot of power, so it's quite significant relative to the total bill

[rugged flax]

wake up bitches, Badger posted a new video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esjkOIVqxT8

[green fulcrum]

I love these videos

[bitter stream]

yeah, this should be fun

[green fulcrum]

Top comment, lol:

[fresh bane]

https://youtu.be/5BITVOVzU_Q?si=yN3U0WTMI7x869b6

A modern UE5 release that.... runs.... good????

how can this be

[green fulcrum]

Oh God, RussianBadger talking about the "yarhar"/"hear ye, hear ye" weapon is the funniest thing so far. Him just cackling madly while calling it a "dumb baby weapon" as he blows zombies up with the grenades it shoots has me dying

[river veldt]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/HalfLife/s/6z9CO9yPT8

[fresh bane]

can the movement in this game stop being so damn good, for just five minutes?

also, I'm not entirely sure I was supposed to be able to do this...

[gaunt marten]

You want it to stop being good?

[fresh bane]

Yeah the movement is just too good I need it to stop being so good

[frozen gate]

my argument behind why games should stop adding jump buttons is that i will never stop pressing the jump button because a primitive urge within me to leap and sprint across the vast fields hunting a lone bear with my fellow homo sapiens, stone spear in hand, overcomes my mind and this applies to every game with cool movement tech actually

[pseudo oak]

PARTY TIME

[cunning galleon]

He-111, seen from a British destroyer

[wind stump]

RIOT

[sacred grove]

Steam servers are having a moment. Sometimes it's up, sometimes not

[teal sonnet]

Silksong is breaking steam

[little badger]

[teal sonnet]

literally cant buy the game

I never seen this before

Even with Cyberpunk steam didn’t crash

[little badger]

just wait until GTA VI

[sacred grove]

Hearing reports that nearly all major platform stores are having issues?

Damn

DDoS
Distributed Denial of Silksong

[little badger]

[random steppe]

Steam was uncertain for maybe 5 minutes then got back on its feet

[little badger]

I hope the game has a smooth launch and not too many bugs

[teal sonnet]

Still fully broken for me

i cant buy the game

I just want to give them my money

[random steppe]

Oh maybe the store is okay now it's the cart system that exploded?

[teal sonnet]

everything dead

[unreal idol]

We were playing Super Metroid last night and now I'm thinking about the metroidvania genre

[random steppe]

Oh yeah, dead again for me too, happy I managed to snag it then

[teal sonnet]

[random steppe]

To put it in your cart you don't need to go through the store btw

[teal sonnet]

LET ME GIVE YOU MONEY

[random steppe]

You can do it from your wishlist

Which seemed to load more easly for me

[teal sonnet]

Silksong is not even appearing anymore for me

It is gone

[little badger]

What have you been playing Gen well apart from silksong today.

[random steppe]

Did a bit Path of Exile 2, and some of NMS new update

Not much though

Mostly was killing time waiting for Silksong

[teal sonnet]

If it had pre-orders

this would have been fine

LMAO

First massive game in forever that didn’t had preorder months before launch

Steam was not ready for a dev that was not greedy af

[random steppe]

I mean, there is the 4d chess move and just subscribe to Gamepass instead

[teal sonnet]

Oh gamepass is also broken

GOG seems the only one not down

[unreal idol]

Is there a Switch release by chance?

[teal sonnet]

But I want my steam achievements

[teal sonnet]

Yep

[visual hill]

isn't the eShop down too?

[unreal idol]

How is it?

I know Switch ports of PC games tend to be janky but I prefer playing on my Switch if possible

[worldly summit]

Steam, eShop, PlayStation Store, Xbox Store are all experiencing outages right now

:)

[teal sonnet]

Not clue since the just came out and nobody is able to buy it lol

Hollow Knight was good af on switch

[worldly summit]

people are slowly able to get through, it's just everybody attempting at once overwhelming the stores

[teal sonnet]

So should be fine

[unreal idol]

That's good. I might get HK, I'm curious about it with all the silksong stuff

And I need something to focus my energy into or I'll probably snap

[teal sonnet]

on Playstation store says the game is not even out yet

LMAO

[worldly summit]

I played it for the first time this year and I really enjoyed the 30 or so hours I played

I'd definitely have tried to finish it by now if my laptop didn't die on me

it's regarded as one of the best indie games ever for a reason

[slim thorn]

2D games are usually fine on Switch

[unreal idol]

If its a total jank fest I'll just get it on Steam

[arctic fern]

Apparently gog is working fine if folks wanna go there

[hushed onyx]

I mean, you could always just wait until tomorrow or next week or whatever.

It's not like it's going anywhere.

[gaunt marten]

No the game is going to shrivel and die if you don't buy it right now

[worldly summit]

it was less than 15 minutes between deciding to buy it through Humble Bundle and the game finishing installing

although when I recommended to a friend also waiting to get their hands on it, they said humble was having problems lol

[worthy rose]

Guys, I think something has happened

[slim thorn]

I was originally hoping to start the download before a work meeting, but now I'm fully wrapped up with work and I still can't load my Steam cart lol

[worldly summit]

always the way it goes with these things

"I was hoping to play a few hours of the game and then go to bed, but it's 9am.."

[slim thorn]

tbf it would be silly not to expect this

[hushed onyx]

[frozen gate]

the something is how does dota have way more viewers than league rn huh

i thought league was more popular

[hushed onyx]

Somehow you get this kind of thing happening all of the time for all sorts of products even when people should know better.

Think of the extremely long lines that happen when an In-And-Out opens in a new place, for example.

[slim thorn]

and the people like me who are here on literally hour 1 are almost certainly going to keep trying until they buy it

so the cost of temporarily adding server capacity is likely just not worth it

[arctic fern]

A day of disruption at most

[slim thorn]

in the meantime, what pizza do I want for Silksong day...

[gaunt marten]

Anchovy

[worldly summit]

I love that Team Cherry announced the release date with just 2 weeks to go like they're still a little *unknown indie studio

[slim thorn]

iiuc on the production side they still are

[worldly summit]

could've used a preorder button more than Borderlands 4 that's for certain

[unreal idol]

Are they not indie?

This is weird, I'm seeing people complaining that they didn't allow pre-orders

[slim thorn]

"indie" has been a fuzzy word for a long time

TC is certainly a very small team

[unreal idol]

What the fuck happened to make the narrative shift

[worldly summit]

they're still indie, they just have the sequel to a world renowned game on their hands now

[worldly summit]

not a legitimate complaint imo

the game is 20 bucks

in this economy

if Team Cherry acted like they were releasing the second coming of jesus and did full preorders it certainly would be a hefty AAA price

[slim thorn]

well, if they mean pre-orders including pre-downloading, then that is legitimate imo

just not a big deal; again all of us who are trying to buy it immediately should've expected this

[unreal idol]

What does the games cost have to do with preorders?

[gaunt marten]

Preorders would definitely make it less of an issue for steam's servers

[slim thorn]

I also don't know why cost was cited

[sacred grove]

Three people

Three people crashed multiple game stores lol

[gaunt marten]

I was listening to a podcast where Jason Schrier talked about the interview he did with the developers. You might like it:

Episode webpage: https://maximumfun.org/podcasts/triple-click/

Media file: https://afp-9384.calisto.simplecastaudio.com/22107083-afe9-4e16-a465-226032982b33/episodes/4706bfde-4628-473d-9a0c-f48dd0be8fa9/audio/128/default.mp3?aid=rss_feed&awCollectionId=22107083-afe9-4e16-a465-226032982b33&awEpisodeId=4706bfde-4628-473d-9a0c-f48dd0be8fa9&feed=6WD3bDj7```

[worldly summit]

I don't see waiting for steam to fix its servers as a major problem. I think it's an extremely small problem to deal with in exchange for what we get

[unreal idol]

[slim thorn]

yeah that doesn't connect to the statements being replied to

anyway, for now I'll just keep playing the other metroidvania I'm partway through

#firstworldproblems

[visual hill]

meanwhile, I have yet to play a 2D metroidvania

[gaunt marten]

It's not too late to start

Start with something easy and accessible like La Mulana

[unreal idol]

I've only played a few

[slim thorn]

I'm still afraid to try La Mulana

[gaunt marten]

Bring a physical notebook and you'll be fine

[slim thorn]

(if anyone wanted the serious "easy and accessible first metroidvania" pick, I usually say Ori)

[unreal idol]

What's that one?

[arctic fern]

wow i cant even log in, thats new

[slim thorn]

yeah, I got it in my cart a while ago but it can rarely load the cart and never complete the purchase

[gaunt marten]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGi-CXoFZEM

[unreal idol]

Gives me Indiana Jones vibes

[gaunt marten]

That's right

It's Indiana Jones if it was a retro-themed metroidvania

Focuses on slowly deciphering the world and making discoveries. Known to be very punishing (2 is less punishing)

[unreal idol]

Aha

[arctic fern]

...ok id love to play that

the upgrade you find are things like fragments of text that let you translate puzzels in previous areas of the game

[gaunt marten]

I don't actually recommend it for anyone, unless you're willing to keep detailed notes and expect to fail constantly (or follow a guide step by step)

[arctic fern]

lol

[slim thorn]

hence my earlier comment

it's the sort of thing I know I should try, when the right mood finally strikes, I'm too curious not to

but I've got a dozen or so other games that are higher priority

[gaunt marten]

If I had to change one thing about it

It would be to add a fast forward button because my character is too slow

[little badger]

Speedrun trophies for silksong

[wind stump]

king shit

did not realise this was a Shovel Knight reference

[gaunt marten]

King Knight's move

[river veldt]

oh yeah haha

[wind stump]

yer that in particular
like
"wait why am i spinning every time i hit someone- ohhhhhhhhh"

not sure if i'm misremembering or if i haven't actually gotten it before

[teal sonnet]

This game was made by pretty much 4 dudes

One art, One Design, One Code, One Music

That is it.

Plus a few voice actors they hired likely on fiver to do silly bug voices

For Hollow Knight they all quit their jobs to work on that game

For Silksong they are all multi-millionaires doing it for the fun of the game

Now they are again, multi-millionaires 100x

Imagine all the money, being split by only 4 dudes

But they cooked, they cook hard, both games are amazing

Very well deserved

[wind stump]

happy silksong day

[cerulean herald]

is silksong GOTY material

[teal sonnet]

Honestly, this year will be wild for GOTY

Clair Obscur so far is my GOTY

Blue Prince is a masterpiece

Split Fiction is good as FUCK

and now heccin Silksong

[bronze abyss]

dying light the beast in a couple weeks as well

[teal sonnet]

We almost had GTA 6 too

Oh and Deltarune chapter 3+4 came out this year too

Holy

Deathstranding 2 too

But really so far, my heart is in Clair Obscur

That game is just perfection

[cerulean herald]

same, I'd have to go with the 33

[teal sonnet]

Story, gameplay, music

I haven’t played a game like that in forever

That was the definition of masterpiece

[slim thorn]

ok, finally I have Silksong purchased and fully downloaded and got to a stopping point in my other game

[cerulean herald]

I legit cant believe silksong tomorrow is real
it feels weird and surreal

[green fulcrum]

It's today

It's already released

[eager bane]

Silksong is not my kind of game at all, but...damn, the hype did get me a little interested

[cerulean herald]

yea i was referencing the 'silksong tomorrow' meme
I would try it out someday, but I'm not exactly dying to try it out right away

Hollow Knight was fun, but I had my issues with it

[astral steeple]

Wow these new cod skins keep getting more and more bizarre lol

[fickle garnet]

Just makes me want to play the game lesss

[astral steeple]

I pretty much only downloaded black ops 6/warzone for skeletor like a year and a half ago and then the beavis and butthead stuff two months ago and then stopped playing it after that lol

Now I don't really have a reason to play it anymore

Though I'm kinda tempted on the stan smith bundle and Roger bundle

[static bluff]

They're asking us to cosplay our favorite character from a game in a week. Who should I be?

[slim thorn]

I feel the need to inform CaptainMario that in Silksong, you say "fren" during the healing animation

[static bluff]

(Art by DarCowNova) Maybe I should go as The Engineer from Factorio

[wind stump]

I feel seen. https://youtu.be/eC1VZZ9bqnk

tho for me it's more Crazy Games/Itch.io slop

[cerulean herald]

they were pretty fun, but i got bored after a bit

[wind stump]

also Check Back

[visual hill]

get your best Mr. Game & Watch cosplay out

(instructions on becoming flat not provided)

[teal sonnet]

This is insane

In just a few hours

On steam alone

[wind stump]

Team Cherry:

[teal sonnet]

All this for only 4 dudes

[cerulean herald]

We gotta get that to 1 mil

[peak mesa]

https://bsky.app/profile/st1ka.bsky.social/post/3lxxmidcub22r
It all started from here.

St1ka (@st1ka.bsky.social)

If you're an indie developer, you should hang this screenshot on your wall and use it as inspiration to never give up

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Bluesky · Sep 3, 2025, 9:51 PM

How does it feel to be proven wrong not once but twice.

[hushed onyx]

I guess it's not wrong to be a little skeptical at this early point--plenty of games have neat trailers and then flop, even if they're well-done--but it's always funny when you have the "thing that is massive success but people are really skeptical about earlier" 😆

[wind stump]

your first mistake was going to Reddit

🏀
🗑️

[cerulean herald]

r/gaming no less lmfao

[cerulean herald]

I mean there's being skeptical, and there's being overly hostile and mean for no reason

[peak mesa]

This one’s probably up for debates, but you probably should never quit your job aswell for a project like that.

[frozen gate]

it's really obnoxious that people complain about "indie sidescrolling platformers" cuz like

what do you want 1 guy to do

LOL

also fully hand drawn so it's really ignorant of the effort being clearly put into the game

[visual hill]

I predicted a 150k peak at first, I was very wrong

now I'm betting on 600k

[visual hill]

yeah, people don't tell you to have a backup plan just for funsies

you need a lot of luck to have a successful game, good execution doesn't suffice

(look at Rollerdome)

[visual hill]

to be fair, there are many underexplored 2D game genres still

[frozen gate]

the biggest part that bothers me is like

"cartoony," "pixelated art style" and "2d" being used as complaints for an indie game when those are just easier to deal with than 3d models and animation for a lot of those developers

[peak mesa]

Truth is, creating pixel art style also takes skill. It’s not as easy as a walk in a park.

[frozen gate]

yeah that's what i mean, it's also it's own craft that takes its own level of skill that gets unfairly dismissed by a lot of the gaming community

it's just more accessible for a lot of people to have gotten into than 3d modelling + animation so it comes across as somewhat entitled when i hear people complain about that art style from indie developers

[little badger]

Street Fighter movie coming next year

[green fulcrum]

Here we go, Round 2. Hopefully they can do Bison justice just like last time, while also, y'know, making the rest of the movie good too.

[river veldt]

David Dasmalchian (i think i spelled it right) is playing Bison this time so i have faith, he's an excellent actor

he played Polka Dot Man in The Suicide Squad

[unreal idol]

Nothing will top the live action Mortal Kombat film from the 90s

[green fulcrum]

Yeah, that one isn't even bad. It's not a masterpiece or anything, but it's faithful enough to the source material, is fun af, gave us THE best Mortal Kombat theme, and is overall just a roaring good time to watch.

The less said about its non-existent sequel, the better.

[obsidian salmon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFLQU70QstY

this guy is trackmania's pannenkoek at this point

(the title is clickbait, he's not aiming for the human record...)

all thanks to ||a miniscule gap in the track||

[visual hill]

But then, AI got this run.

[peak mesa]

And recently as Jack Delroy in Late Night with the Devil

Think that’s his first time playing a lead character.

Excellent performance by him in that found footage horror.

I think he’s gonna do just as great as M. Bison.

[slim thorn]

if anyone was still wondering, yes, Silksong is just as good as Hollow Knight was (for at least the 6-7 hours I could do today)

[gaunt marten]

You played until 1AM nonstop?

[slim thorn]

not quite nonstop

[gaunt marten]

Big question: Who's the cutest side character you met so far?

[slim thorn]

(I don't commute on Monday or Friday, so I get to stay up pretty late on Thursday)

[river veldt]

||the fast travel beast||

[slim thorn]

I guess for cutest it's gotta be between ||chimebug and bell beast||, and I can't decide yet

[river veldt]

||bell beast geneuinely is so cute i wanna cry||

[cerulean herald]

Is there a nitpick for you or anything that could've been better, or is it all around peak

[river veldt]

im hoping to get Skong when my next check comes ☃️

[gaunt marten]

I think if you look for nitpicks in any game you can spend your whole life finding them and die miserable

[slim thorn]

and it's always difficult to distinguish a genuine flaw from personal preference

[frozen gate]

ah there's people who will share those preferences, that's how people start to feel like they can trust certain reviewers over others

[random steppe]

Ghostrunner II for free? Sign me up, the first one was great

[fickle garnet]

I need to contiue playing the first one

[gaunt marten]

Free if you already gave them money this month

[random steppe]

I think it's hard for now to find genuine flaws because a lot of what it does is trying to make the few problems with the original smaller, at least so far.

[fickle garnet]

There is no subscription required for EGS free games

[random steppe]

Like, ||it gives you a very fast sprint so backtracking turns into "how well do I know this level, and for how long I can sprint without vaulting into lava like an idiot?"||

[gaunt marten]

Oh I thought that was the Amazon prime one

[frozen gate]

yeah they do genuinely just give out free games

well

with drm ofc

[gaunt marten]

They look the same to me as someone who uses neither

[fickle garnet]

Fair enough

[random steppe]

The way I like to think, is that it turns Epic Games money into Indie Game Devs money when I click to add it to my account, since the way it works, is that the dev gets a certain amount of money for every copy redeemed

[frozen gate]

so itd be mostly about the hollow knight formula specifically, which if you already like, you'd like silksong no matter what

[cerulean herald]

I'm aware, I just wanted to know if there were any legitimate issues
Maybe nitpick wasn't the right word

[random steppe]

Yeah if you don't like Hollow Knight or metroidvania in general, this is just more Hollow Knight just even more polished than the original and with a few lessons learned from it

[slim thorn]

yeah we haven't seen anything like technical instability or missing feature or a mechanic that doesn't work at all or whatever

if anything we're finding little details that, if I didn't know how long they'd been working on this, I would've been surprised to see in an indie game

[random steppe]

I'm legit waiting like, a week then I'm making my avatar the Bell Beast for a year

[slim thorn]

there's also a lot we just can't judge until we actually finish the game

for example, I've seen very little of the lore yet, but if this is paced the same way as HK, then that's to be expected

[gaunt marten]

Hollow Knight but you don't have to find and equip dashmaster is all I wanted

[river veldt]

can you answer me this (if you know yet) ||is it a sequel or a prequel ?||

[random steppe]

I think we saw a few telling hints already, but yeah, more to uncover

[slim thorn]

the dash has a ton of differences we all seem to like

[slim thorn]

||I honestly have no idea at this point||

[random steppe]

Almost definitely ||a Sequel|| but nothing in the game hard confirms it yet

[river veldt]

interesting answers

||im curious if it'll go out of it's way to confirm any of the endings||

[gaunt marten]

Anybody notice how the soundtrack page has no samples of the soundtrack but the game page does? https://store.steampowered.com/app/3928720/Hollow_Knight_Silksong__Official_Soundtrack/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1030300/Hollow_Knight_Silksong/

Steam

Hollow Knight: Silksong - Official Soundtrack

Enter a Land Haunted by Silk and Song
Journey the fabled lands of Hollow Knight: Silksong across 53 stunning orchestral tracks.

Experience melancholy melodies, symphonic strings and heart-thumping, soul strumming boss themes as you explore a world of beasts, knights and hunters.…

Price

$11.99

Steam

Hollow Knight: Silksong

Become the Princess Knight
As the lethal hunter Hornet, adventure through a kingdom ruled by silk and song! Captured and taken to this unfamiliar world, prepare to battle mighty foes and solve ancient mysteries as you ascend on a deadly pilgrimage to the kingdom’s peak.

Hollow Knight: Silksong is the epic sequel to Hollow Knight, the award wi…

Price

$19.99

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[river veldt]

oh yeah i heard the soundtrack titles have spoilers so be careful everyone

[slim thorn]

isn't that typical of soundtracks

[gaunt marten]

That tracks

[random steppe]

I think it's either ||"no" or if it does, it'll confirm the "Dream no More" ending, assuming it's a sequel||

That was my guess before booting it up and so far nothing changed it

[river veldt]

yeah but just a warning

[cerulean herald]

What was ||dream no more about again?||

[slim thorn]

the true, non-DLC ending of the first game

[gaunt marten]

https://antifandom.com/hollowknight/wiki/Endings_(Hollow_Knight)

[slim thorn]

||where the Radiance is defeated for real, and without any Godhome weirdness||

[random steppe]

Hollow Knight base game true ending
||You become one with the dark and beat the shit out of the moth/god/sun that is making shit fucked||

[gaunt marten]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/comics/comments/1n8kty5/goodbye_oc/

[little badger]

The DS can no longer be repaired by Nintendo

[green fulcrum]

RIP 3DS family

You lived a long, happy life

[forest shoal]

I learned the hard way that the New 2DS XL is very prone to unrepairable hardware failures

[green fulcrum]

I have the original 3DS XL, not the New one.

Still chugging along. That thing was very good to have on loooooong duty shifts in the navy, let me tell you.

[worthy rose]

Shockingly, not 40k. No man's sky.

[hasty patio]

Beautiful.

[sacred grove]

How much does it tank the frame rate?

[wind stump]

https://youtu.be/B-9_lhfAJ38

[quartz pawn]

whomst

[frozen gate]

irish-canadian variety streamer that started with tf2

has a youtube channel of edited down stream highlights that got popular after messing around in games like skyrim, fallout 4, the sims, etc

and minecraft of course lol

[arctic fern]

very funny youtuber/streamer

[fresh bane]

https://youtu.be/AZ2NijKfxoA?si=s19QMAJHezFa9fJj

[chilly mural]

Nire posting woolie versus

I must watch it

[fresh bane]

You have heard of the infamous ''we threw away the original copies of Silent Hill so we had to remaster them with unfinished beta copies''
now, get ready for the absolutely infuriating: ''We literally overwrote the original version of the game with the changes we made for the localization and if we needed to do another version we'd keep rewriting the original version over and over so we needed a fan archive of the data to remaster this version''

[river veldt]

i did a top 10 games, this time trying to limit myself to one game per franchise/series

[proud warren]

Valve games are so closely knitted in their community that I literally forgot Half-Life and Portal are not a part of the same series

[river veldt]

i mean technically they're in the same universe buuut i thought i could get away with it lol

[cerulean herald]

where silksong /j

good list tho

[river veldt]

someone asked me this same thing in another server

[cerulean herald]

LMAO

[proud warren]

Also no isaac

[river veldt]

isaac is basically number 11

[cerulean herald]

no minecraft is make me crying rn fr

[river veldt]

hold on

[proud warren]

Couldn't make the top 10: isaac is literally starving

[river veldt]

ok more accurate list

might have accidentally forgotten minecraft

[proud warren]

When deltarune is done, where will that place?

[cerulean herald]

[proud warren]

When you turn 30-something years old

[river veldt]

depends on how well it sticks the landing. if it keeps going how it's going then it might usurp Undertale

[proud warren]

Would it change placements?

[river veldt]

uhh maybe

i count them as the same series so i feel like only one can be on it

[proud warren]

Well i meant would it still be 4th in the list

[river veldt]

yes ! ok i understand now

sorry

[proud warren]

u good

[fresh bane]

Oh yeah, this movies gonna be such hot garbage I can't wait

[green fulcrum]

Eh, I'll watch it.

[rancid carbon]

Rate the loadout

[bitter stream]

I've not played CoD in a while, so no idea how those guns handle

[rancid carbon]

Well this is OG MW3, unless you havent played that in a while

@bitter stream

[chilly mural]

I miss og mw2 I stopped playing new cods after blops 2 and skipped mw3 because I didn’t have any money but instead learned to mess around that my family computer was able to run team fortress 2

[bitter stream]

ah yeah, in which case that seems like a good aggressive loadout Thorax. I vaguely remember the concussion grenades being very good

[rancid carbon]

thx, this is plutonium specifically, i'm pretty sure the ACTUAL mw3 servers are exploiter infested.

[bitter stream]

plutonium has enough players that it can still get matches going?

[rancid carbon]

I mostly play private because I know I'll probably get dunked on against real players, but, I assume, yeah it should be.

[bitter stream]

fair enough, is there a way to add bots in MW3?

[rancid carbon]

I only know how to add bots on plutonium, you have to download Bot-Warfare and click on the bat file to install it.

[bitter stream]

ah ok, fair enough

[gaunt marten]

https://i.imgur.com/ZCvdIXU.png That's all I needed in a twitch stream

[fresh bane]

oh hey someone else playing metroid while everyone else is playing silksong

[worthy rose]

https://share.google/KgtS39i9ntE9hCNgb

[river veldt]

is it a real golden gun

[gaunt marten]

Yeah

[dreamy raptor]

Someone named their planet "Bois"

[arctic fern]

Damn, for once a special edition that's worth it

[young creek]

no Silksong?

[green fulcrum]

"1 game per franchise"
posts Half Life 2 and Portal 2

They're the same franchise, Cap. Portal is a spin-off of Half Life.

[arctic fern]

by that argument fallout is a spinoff of the elderscrolls
3 and NV are literaly in the same engine with many features basically unchanged

[green fulcrum]

No, Half Life and Portal are in the same universe

[fresh bane]

I don't know if I would call Portal a spin off of Half Life necessarily, but it's not just a shared engine/developer, Half Life and Portal are part of the same universe

Not the same franchise though

[green fulcrum]

I'd consider it the same franchise. It actively references events in Half Life 2.

It's like saying that Shadow the Hedgehog isn't a Sonic game because Sonic isn't the player character.

It's still part of the same franchise

[arctic fern]

i dunno

while i get that argument, shadow the hedgehog literally has sonic appearing as a voiced sidechar for multiple missions, and shadow appares in multiple mainline osnic games
portal basically just happens to exist in halflife by comparision

[green fulcrum]

Okay, better comparison then: it's like saying that Pillars of Eternity and Avowed aren't the same franchise because they are completely different styles of games with almost no parallels aside from the setting, and yet they are part of the same franchise.

[fresh bane]

I think we're getting confused with the semantics here, I think we all agree they definitely are part of the same universe but objectively speaking they're not part of the same franchise, otherwise Portal would be called Half-Life: something something, that would make it part of the Half Life franchise of games

but they definitely are part of the same world

[gaunt marten]

Reasonable disagreement but Cap already knew and decided they count as separate

[green fulcrum]

Fair enough

Imo there's enough overlap for me to consider them the same franchise, is all I'm saying.

[slim thorn]

while it is probably technically correct to say they're part of the same franchise, the spirit of Cap's self-imposed rule is probably closer to "one per series", and is more about avoiding redundancy where N very similar games fill up the list than it is about narrative continuity

a more blatant case might be, e.g. a Mario 3D platformer and a Mario Kart game, which would also be same franchise, but different enough series / gameplay genres to make sense as separate entries on a list like this

[green fulcrum]

"One game per IP" is probably more accurate, to be honest.

Half Life and Portal are both different IPs, but are both in the same setting, so Imo that means they're in the same franchise but not the same game series. If that makes sense.

[sage iris]

https://youtu.be/Yx5-9iDhLqE

[gaunt marten]

I don't think

[arctic fern]

therefore i do not am

[craggy vine]

Games used to be so much cheaper

$9 on sale from $19

Oh also I have a sealed copy of anthem I got for $2. I got it to try out and never did.

PC dvd copy

[gaunt marten]

San Andreas cost sixty dollars on release

It's much cheaper now, not used to be

[craggy vine]

Yeah, but still sixty dollars, not $120 like games often are for me now.

And this was $9 in probably around 2010 as well

Prices weren't kept jacked up like they are now

[gaunt marten]

Games won't cost more than sixty dollars if you don't pay more than sixty dollars for them

[craggy vine]

I only have once

But seriously like, buy a brand new sealed 10 year old game back then, way cheaper. Do it now and it is still probably $40 at least

[craggy vine]

brooo

[gaunt marten]

How did they make it fit on one DVD?

[craggy vine]

It says 9gb on the back of the case

Remember that this is the original release with dlc, not the special edition

[gaunt marten]

It's 13.01GB on steam

[craggy vine]

oh huh

Actually, this disc is just the steam version too. So perhaps some content is downloaded.

I have another disc like it too. You can install with the disc through steam. Hell it is why I got steam, got Alan Wake on disc and needed Steam to play.

[visual hill]

you really want Skyrim SE for modding in 2025

Anniversary is preferable too IIRC

[shell shore]

Does any stardew player know how to fix this im Dying

[frozen gate]

is this SMAPI

[shell shore]

Its stardrop modmanager

[frozen gate]

stardrop requires SMAPI according to the nexus, which should give u that exe

stardew modding api

[shell shore]

Yeah i have that, it works fine bc i just played

[frozen gate]

so the *exe is missing from where it was extracted maybe?

i know antiviruses can have a tendency to delete files on extraction but after that idk

[shell shore]

I got it fixed👍🏻

[little badger]

New difficulty found.

[visual hill]

missed opportunity for Can I play, silky? and I am silk incarnate! difficulty names

[smoky sonnet]

true lol

and steel soul is unlocked after beating the game normally too, not new

a while ago they talked about making a silk soul mode, with changes to ai and stuff instead of just permadeath

not sure what became of that though, it would've been much more interesting

[wind stump]

OK GUYS
I PUT UP DOWN UP DOWN LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT IN THE EXTRAS MENU OF THE OG HOLLOW KNIGHT

NOTHING FUCKING HAPPENED.

yw

[cerulean herald]

thank u for ur service

[visual hill]

it doesn't unlock Sonic?

[frozen gate]

everythin getting called a cheat code now even if it makes the game harder

[frozen gate]

does mario tho

[smoky sonnet]

nope! having gotten 112% though, when you do that instead, it lets you play as luigi

[arctic fern]

cheats in older games did that too!

[visual hill]

iddqd in Heretic kills you, idkfa strips you from your weapons

it punishes you for reusing Doom cheat codes

quicken turns you into a chicken too, in which you can't do anything but bite

[cerulean herald]

is there a cheat code that bricks your computer

[light gate]

Yeah

del system32

[arctic fern]

in magika 1 theres a spell that crashes to desktop

[frozen gate]

tbf with codes like that it doesnt make the game harder it simply kicks you in the shins for being so presumptuous

also magicka is that um

multiplayer wizard game isnt it

[fresh bane]

whew

[arctic fern]

yeah, early arrowhead game, devs of helldivers

[frozen gate]

oh wild

i didnt know it was that same dev

always thought it was cool

[arctic fern]

Its why both games have DDR

[worthy rose]

https://expedition33.francebillet.com/artist/clairobscurexpedition33apaintedsymphony/ concert starting in France

[visual hill]

interesting, OG Hollow Knight wasn't played that much before Silksong

I thought it had more daily players

but it's a singleplayer game you leave alone after you've done it, so that makes sense

it was also much less popular on release than even 6 months ago

also, heh, I predicted a 600k peak for Silksong, I'm not too far off

[arctic fern]

That's peak player count

[visual hill]

I know the graph is based on daily peak player count (or hourly if you zoom in enough), but still

[fresh bane]

That's what I was thinking too, the player count for Hollow Knight skyrocketed too, it wasn't even this high back when it came out and was the hot topic

[frozen gate]

silksong hype became a massive advertisement for hollow knight i guess

and for itself

[slim thorn]

iirc that pattern is pretty typical of sequels in general, indie or not

simply reminding people the first game exists and that it's well-regarded is enough to sway a lot of undecided buyers, or people who had it in the big pile of maybe-someday games but never prioritized before, etc

[quiet swift]

eyes his hollow knight install, which he just reinstalled yesterday and started a new game since he never originally finished it

[frozen gate]

admittedly it has made me want to go back too lol

i never even got super far in hollow knight before

even though i tried a couple times, i had it on both my switch and my steam

though i have a lot more patience now

[bitter stream]

go for it liv! it's a lot of fun, though the learning process can be tricky

I'm like, 30% in i think? i'll get back to it at some point

[frozen gate]

ya ofc

i'll have it on my list

but gotta focus on getting thru the games im playing rn haha

should have a checklist or something

[bitter stream]

fair enough, I flit from game to game, so I only have a vague list of just "things i'm interested in" and pick depending on what i'm looking for when i get to sit down

steam shelfs are so useful for that

I currently have 3 main shelves,

1. Pick Up and Play ( for easy to jump in, quick to understand gameplay)
2. Long Form Gaming ( For when I have more time and feel like something with more to learn)
3. Multiplayer, (For friends or MMO-style games)

[frozen gate]

im okay jumping up on multiplayer games at any point usually

though aside from mmorpgs

bc then i'll spend hundreds of hours directly in them doing solo stuff hahah

[bitter stream]

haha yeahh, for MMO style games, there's a lot of singleplayer content

[frozen gate]

otherwise im once again jrpg obsessed which means dedicating myself to these insanely long games one at a time

yaa

[bitter stream]

I put like, warframe, PoE, and Battlefield in the MMO category

[slim thorn]

there was a timeline in which I gave Expedition 33 a chance before Silksong consumed reality, but it is not this timeline

[frozen gate]

satisfies the grinding part of my brain, which is a pretty big aspect for me in games

i did like being able to come on ffxiv and just do a bunch of hitting rocks

n crafting

[frozen gate]

bahaha

[bitter stream]

Hornet: "I am innevitable".

Ah yeah, i get that liv

[frozen gate]

i wanna see whatr that's about too but not really play it

looks vv pretty

clair obscur i mean ^

[frozen gate]

yaa

[bitter stream]

something nice about zoning out while repeating tasks to the tune of "numbers go up"

[frozen gate]

makes me feel like im the direct target of who jrpgs are made for atp

yaa

[slim thorn]

I could almost see her saying this unironically in the game. Since she has the power of speech (unlike last game), she has a pretty well-defined personality, including about this level of (consistently justified) confidence.

[bitter stream]

oh that's cool

[river veldt]

Game Awards this year is gonna be crazy

[bitter stream]

When do those start?

[river veldt]

Game Awards is beginning of December usually

i mostly just watch it for the announcements i don't really care about the awards themselves

though this year im really gunning for Silksong

[cerulean herald]

insert that meme someone posted here, where its like "Hornet was badass in HK but is an idiot who jumps into spikes in SS"

[fresh bane]

The only thing I know that character says is ''Wren!'' from watching someone stream the beginning of Silksong the other day, but other than that I still somehow don't know anything about Hollow Knight at all

[random steppe]

HK had a very slow launch because it released as like, 3 AAA games released at the same time and Team Cherry wasn't a well known dev.
The biggest day it had before SS release day was revealed was like, a big sale it had.

[river veldt]

24th of February, 2017 what games came out around then

[random steppe]

So lots of people played it over the year but it was never all in the same day

[river veldt]

Breath of the Wild was March 3rd of that year so i suppose that could have overshadowed it

[random steppe]

Yes BOTW was the big one

There were a couple other big ones

[frozen gate]

it's about a pillbug but if he was from dark souls

[random steppe]

Oh right, Nier automata on the 23rd

Like imagine being sandwitched between Nier Automata and Zelda BOTW

What a cursed release date

[river veldt]

yeah lol

Horizon Zero Dawn was also around that time

[random steppe]

Oh right

What an hilariously stacked 2 weeks

[cerulean herald]

Hollow Knight was the game that was pressured by major releases
but now its successor is the one doing the pressuring

[random steppe]

Still haven't finished, game is fucking hard, but I still stand that E33 should get GOTY

It was just too good

[slim thorn]

it is partly a sequel thing tbf, Automata and BotW were also established names

[random steppe]

And don't get me wrong, Silksong is exceptional

[cerulean herald]

E33 is a major contendor yeah

[slim thorn]

I keep thinking I’m almost done with Silksong and then it has a whole other silk it was hiding from me

[frozen gate]

i wouldve figured that automata is what made nier and drakengard really known

[slim thorn]

didn’t Replicant do okay?

(yes Automata is the most popular one now)

[frozen gate]

replicant came after nier automata, right?

[random steppe]

Replicant/gestalt are the same game and released on Xbox 360

[frozen gate]

ohh

[fresh bane]

I still find it funny Charlie Cox was suddenly getting a bunch of congratulations on his incredible performance that he didn't know wtf people were talking about because he had completely forgotten that he even worked on E33

[river veldt]

all i know about Neir is that it has hot robots i think

[random steppe]

There was a replicant remake recently

[fresh bane]

Replicant must've done fine enough but it certainly wasn't the mainstream success that Automata was

[slim thorn]

oh right Automata also had the Platinum name going for it

[frozen gate]

as far as i can tell, the previous ones have had a million on some releases but automata had several million

[random steppe]

And the first one was a cult classic

Not a big game in the grand scheme of things but had a lot of diehard fans

[fresh bane]

Silksong is kinda like that too it's been a much bigger mainstream success than Hollow Knight, I'm guessing the fact that so many people had been anticipating the game for so long and all the memes surrounding that made way more people aware of it than there were before through seeing the name show up on their feeds

[random steppe]

That'll be rough

This game isn't very kind

[slim thorn]

I’m not sure if it’s “more successful” overall. Silksong obviously had a far bigger launch, but HK’s success was literally genre-changing.

[random steppe]

Everyone in the thread played HK a lot and there was some serious hurdle for veryone, if you don't have the HK experience this is gonna be one learning curve.

[fresh bane]

It still weirds me out because I always thought Hollow Knight was as successful but I guess it only was to anyone aware of the genre and indie games but Silksong seems to have been reaching way further than that already

[river veldt]

it's so hard lmao

[random steppe]

I mean, HK had around 15 million copies

That's wildly successful

[slim thorn]

the narrative also assumes you’re familiar with the first HK (this isn’t obvious until later than where Gen and Cap are)

[random steppe]

I would be surprised if silksong goes over 15 million copies just in the launch week, it'll probably do though, in a year or so.

[slim thorn]

it’s also really hard for most of us to judge how popular a thing is outside our usual circles

I’m pretty sure everyone I personally know who’s playing Silksong has already played HK

for contrast, say, Uma Musume; think of how many anecdotes there are of someone unexpected trying that game

[cerulean herald]

long before playing HK, i knew of the game, sorta like as a staple in the indie scene

[random steppe]

HK is basically the same as Binding of Isaac as in it's a game in a nichè genere that made the genre suddenly explode.

It's where it gets its popularity

[cerulean herald]

for Nier: Automata, i knew of that game but didnt know anything about the franchise/series, and assumed that it was its own single, stand-alone game that wasnt connected to anything larger
took a while for me to learn otherwise

[random steppe]

Like, you can tell when it happens, because games before it in the genre were copying castelvania and metroid.
Games after HK in the genre are copying HK.

[frozen gate]

yeah that's kjind of what i thought

[random steppe]

Same happend in BoI

[frozen gate]

and i never heard mention of the previous games even when it was popular haha

bol?

OH

[random steppe]

Binding of Isaac

[frozen gate]

binding of isaac

figured it out just then yeah

[frozen gate]

afaik castlevania and metroid didn't break 10 mil either for any individual release, ya?

so hollow knight is wild for going to 15m

not sure if either even broke 4m but im lazy to check

[random steppe]

I mean, gaming was smaller back then

[slim thorn]

come to think of it I’ve never looked up sales for those games

apparently Metroid Dread was >3 mil?

[random steppe]

Came out only on one platform at a much higher price point so it makes sense

[frozen gate]

ah v likely metroid dread is at 5m now

[random steppe]

I wonder how well Ender Magnolia made, let's check if they have copies sold

[frozen gate]

apparently nintendo showed off their sales

wait nvm

LOL

[random steppe]

2 millions, pretty solid

Oh it's for both ender titles

[slim thorn]

nice

[random steppe]

I hope it sells more, I really want them to make a 3rd one

[slim thorn]

and that’s probably the most “normal” figure so far

[frozen gate]

bc metroid prime had a remaster on switch so it's not the only metroid game on switch

but surely most of those sales are dread

[random steppe]

Being behind compared to Ix and a few other players in the thread, when I booted it up I wondered if Silksong was gonna be smaller than HK
Now I keep wondering if I'll ever stop finding new areas in this goddamn game.

[cerulean herald]

ig that proves the years of development wasnt lazing around

[frozen gate]

years of development spent trying to beat the game

[random steppe]

The others are reaching endings so there has to be a bottom somewhere

[slim thorn]

[river veldt]

i like how Hornet talks

[slim thorn]

that delicate balance of posh ojou-sama and no-nonsense warrior

[river veldt]

yeah but also that she like, talks at all

it's refreshing after the Knight

[slim thorn]

it’s interesting how it retroactively means HK 1 wasn’t just doing the silent protagonist thing, that guy was actually mute

[river veldt]

yeah

[slim thorn]

jury’s still out on Gordon Freeman

[random steppe]

Yeah, I think it works well since he was supposed to be "hollow"

[frozen gate]

too busy thinking to talk i suppose

[random steppe]

So giving him a definite personality would have worked against that

[slim thorn]

right, with full lore awareness it makes perfect sense

you just don’t know that’s in-universe weird when you’re first playing

[random steppe]

It's interesting because it's pretty clear that ||Hornet is also part void in this one, among weaver and pale king, I'm glad they solved that mistery|| SS spoilers

[river veldt]

the urge to click

[slim thorn]

||what makes you say that? ||

actually that should go in the thread

[random steppe]

Well she hints at it a few times, and also when you ||break her cocoon after she dies to get your money back, inside there is a shade like HK's||

[slim thorn]

ah

[random steppe]

Literally noticed that hour 1

[worldly summit]

prices straight up will never compare to 15 years ago

a $9 game is a better and better deal every year

if wages increased to match inflation then it wouldn’t be noticeable

[gaunt marten]

Yeah, why not match game prices to wages instead of to inflation?

[craggy vine]

aah yeah true

[craggy vine]

I used this version for modding all the time back in the day, before special edition was essential. And I didn't get the auto upgrade to special edition because I bought this just after special edition came out, and I actually thought it was the special edition when I bought it but it wasn't.

My pc at the time would have struggled too much with special edition anyway, it had a hard enough time on base skyrim anyway.

[green fulcrum]

Because then game companies would be making less money, since wages are still quite low.

[gaunt marten]

No, I mean, if you want to see if prices remained fair, why compare to inflation instead of comparing to wage growth?

Or total disposable income?

[robust latch]

i was randomly watching someone on youtube playing Ixion. And its giving me a massive urge to play the old Classic Startopia from the early 2000s

[gaunt marten]

Startopia was fun, but too janky to replay

[robust latch]

yeah, the old DirectX version makes it basicly impossible from what ive heard

it was soo fun multiplayer to

time to build a windows 2000 VM and play on that

[gaunt marten]

Even the steam version

It's not that it doesn't run, it's that it looks and feels bad to play

[bitter stream]

the soundtrack of Ixion is so cool, though the game itself looks not my cup of tea

[robust latch]

the whole management style game on the inside of a ring has just got me thinking

id probably play ixion but apparently it doesn't have a sandbox mode and from what ive seen of the gameplay your basicly pushed to move on by game elements

[bitter stream]

ah yeah, fair enough

[robust latch]

hmm there are apparently edits to the save file you can make to mitigate some of those elements but still a proper sandbox mode would have been nice

[bitter stream]

yeah for sure

[gaunt marten]

Doing some analysis, and taking 1995's 60 dollar price point as an anchor, compared with 70 dollar games today. Consumer Price Index indicates games are ~35% cheaper today than back then, or 39% cheaper in terms of median disposable income, and 60% cheaper in terms of hours worked. That means games today are cheaper by every metric

[craggy vine]

That is actually very interesting

I guess it makes sense if you were to compare it to other things that have gone up in price to, especially the basic stuff like food and groceries.

[gaunt marten]

So the actual factors that made it so games are so resistant to price increases are competition and the fact that people have less time to buy and play more games. Also, everyone's playing different games, so if you want to be social about it and have a discussion, you will need to play more games than before

[bronze abyss]

i was wrong about silksong,the fun didnt end with people coping about it releasing eventually,now the fun is watching people cope on twitter about the game being too hard

[wind stump]

dArK sOuLs Of MeTrOiDvAnIA

[bronze abyss]

its worse than that mfs are complaining about basic platforming

[slim thorn]

"I know what a 45 degree angle is" has been living rent free in my head for days

[slim thorn]

unironically the whole post-Hollow Knight era of metroidvanias have incorporated so many of Dark Souls' good ideas that this isn't even wrong, it's just too unspecific

we're at the point where HK and Silksong themselves are oddities for not using estus flasks

[wind stump]

[slim thorn]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Silksong/comments/1n97brk/silksong_early_game/

[bronze abyss]

if its THAT bad a lot of them allow you to fully be stacked with them

[slim thorn]

(there's also an early sidegrade which at least for many of us makes the pogos easier)

[wind stump]

imagine not knowing how to pogo?

-# me, that's me

[gaunt marten]

You just jump and hold down

It's like Shovel Knight but less fun

[bronze abyss]

idk i prefer silksong so far quite a lot to hollow knight

[random steppe]

Silksong is great but if it's your first metroidvania you might be kind of fucked.

While HK is a great first metroidvania

The difficulty curve is much less gentle

And to be fair ,judging by the patchnotes, they are doing some minor tweaks

So they agree that a few things are a bit overtuned

[bronze abyss]

holy fuck thats a hard carry if ive ever seen one

[slim thorn]

yeah, but minor, so it being harsher overall is probably still intended

granted I think even HK is a bit much for a first MV, there's much gentler ones like Ori and Metroid Dread (also with way more straightforward stories )

[bronze abyss]

honestly i feel like it was a good decision,it just feels more rewarding and working through an area feels like working through an area instead of "oh cool 2 enemies and im done with it"

fits the setting/story too of a bug going to defeat a much greater evil

[random steppe]

I mean I like it, except when I'm fighting 3 flying enemies throwing shit at me, I do hate it in that specific moment but I go back to liking it right after

[bronze abyss]

only part i didnt like temporarily was (act 2 spoilers) ||heart of the clock cuz i kept pogoing into the gear by accident instead of off of them with one of the heavier crests|| but after getting used to it its really fun

[visual hill]

https://wz2100.net/news/version-4-6-0/
new Warzone 2100 is out 🙂

[little badger]

Silksong is getting a difficulty balance patch

[slim thorn]

lol, of course that's the detail they highlight

this is a great example of why posting primary sources is usually much better: https://steamcommunity.com/app/1030300/discussions/0/595159519774039622/

(we already discussed it in the thread)

technically the "among others" in that tweet is incorrect, these patch notes only name those two and don't use any language implying more

[little badger]

I guess this didn’t send

[gaunt marten]

You should probably just not post news you see on twitter

[little badger]

I sent both pictures but I guess only the one sent

[gaunt marten]

Yeah no

It's not better with the second picture

You keep posting pictures of tweets instead of having conversations

[slim thorn]

when there's that much text, a link to the source is much easier for people to consume than a screenshot (especially when the screenshot necessarily has to cut context)

usually the ideal way to post a thing like this is link to source and then in text mention what you think are the highlights / discussion topics (which is what someone did in the HK thread earlier)

[little badger]

I was going to talk about it. As I know the game is currently a little hard from the streams I’ve been watching.
But I’ll send a link to the actual post next time. and highlight it as well.

[gaunt marten]

The important thing to keep in mind is that we want Manechat to be a place to talk instead of a news feed

[little badger]

I know Manechat is conversation based. But I do like showing things that others may have missed or would like to see.
But I’ll keep it mind I like having conversions as well.

[slim thorn]

this example is particularly odd because it's in that weird space where anyone actually playing the game would've obviously seen the full version in the dedicated thread already, so pulling out just this one detail from the patch notes (which isn't even the interesting one to me) and posting it publicly seems like it's pretty consciously engineered to drive clicks from non-players who get curious about a "Silksong is too hard" narrative forming

(the patch notes most interesting to me were "fixed Snitch Pick" (I was wondering why I couldn't get that to work), "removed float override input" (we were talking about this the other day), and "Increase in rosary rewards for courier deliveries" (everyone agrees these are pointless atm lol))

[frozen gate]

ahh from my side as a silksong non-player is i have no idea what the tweet is talking about haha

[slim thorn]

indeed, I don't think any of the patch notes are meaningful to a non-player

[little badger]

But for the future I’ll read the full story and pick out stuff that will be interesting.

[slim thorn]

none of this radically changes the nature of the game or who would enjoy playing it

[slim thorn]

to be clear that last part was more a jab at the "news" outlet posting the tweet than at you

[little badger]

Oh right.

[slim thorn]

especially since part of it was technically incorrect

[little badger]

How are you finding the game ixrec? Does it have more depth than the first game

[slim thorn]

overall it's just as great, there's a lot of small things that people might like more or less than HK 1 but mostly subjective

I'm not sure about "depth" specifically, especially since I've never been the type to experiment much with build configuration, but I think most people looking for a bazillion different builds will be satisfied with the the whole "crest" system (in addition to the "tools" that replace HK 1's charms)

[smoky sonnet]

there are a lot of ways to build into different playstyles

my one complaint about the system is that one category of tools has way less options that feel significant to me

which is sorta nice considering it's the slot type that has the compass, but also there's not a lot there that catches my eye, with how many slots you're given at times

[little badger]

I do love a challenge in games. I’ll probably give it a go one day i wonder how long it will take for someone to do a no damage run

[slim thorn]

I get what you mean, but I think that falls well into "build customization is partly about personal preference so every player will see stuff they don't care about"

[smoky sonnet]

as far as depth in general, it took me 64 hours to hit 100%

it really just kept going

[slim thorn]

oh that's not what I'm used to "depth" meaning

[little badger]

There is a trophy/achievement for doing that in less than 30 hours

[smoky sonnet]

i know, i've been wanting to try for that or a permadeath run already, but last i checked no one knows for certain what actually contributes to 100% and what would be an optimal route

so instead i'm just doing bestiary cleanup

[slim thorn]

yeah I am not doing the speedrun achievements lol

getting to some kind of "100%" in a game is usually the point where I've had my fill of it and it's time to move on

(I did do the speedrun achievement for Sword of the Sea, but that's a far smaller game with basically no "routing" to worry about, so exception proving rule)

[smoky sonnet]

the first game was short enough that i went back almost immediately for 100% speedrun/steel soul, got even p5 done after less than a month

this though, this might be a grind

[little badger]

Have fun

[smoky sonnet]

going through them,

• compass is amazing and mandatory most of the time unless you know the area very well
• shard pendant is very nice to have to stay topped up on shards between bosses
• magnetite brooch feels a little pointless when the areas that are best for farming are already on solid ground, and otherwise i run past enemies a lot of the time
• weighted belt is just pretty damn solid, not much more to say
• barbed bracelet is terrifying. the game is too fast paced for me to feel comfortable with this even on a non steel soul save
• purse is probably nice, but i typically didn't keep a massive excess of rosaries on me unless im going to a shop. the steel soul variant sounds pretty decent though
• magnetite dice, haven't tried but it sounds pretty good compared to the other options, if you're just grinding out a boss
• scuttlebrace is a bit hard to get used to but is one of the most notable of these, though some bosses are so fast that you'd probably be better off jumping. depends on the fight
• grip is just a wall cling, there's like maybe one platforming section i would've liked it, but it's not really an issue when you can already dashclimb instead of jumping off, possibly into enemies
• spider strings i have no idea lol
• anklets i need to give a shot at some point, though the silk cost put me off trying it
• thief's mark is only to be equipped when farming. remember to take it off or suffer the consequences.

[slim thorn]

case in point: I've had magnetite brooch on the whole game, never saw a point in weighted belt, haven't tried scuttlebrace since dodge is fast enough already

[smoky sonnet]

i just feel like there could be more options in general, not that they're particularly bad

[slim thorn]

"more options" you say after listing over a dozen

[smoky sonnet]

scuttlebrace really depends on the attack, also it lowers your hitbox it feels like

[slim thorn]

that level of detail definitely belongs in the thread though