#general gaming
little badger
arctic fern
voyager? wow ok
green fulcrum
This actually looks kinda cool
little badger
Yeah. It’s does look interesting
graceful bridge
Yeah this is looking pretty slick judging by the screenshots.
slim thorn
does this mean we actually have to count the torpedos now
green fulcrum
does this mean we actually have to count the torpedos now
And the crew
Because there's no way that the crew remained 150-ish throughout the whole trip
Like half of them died, lol
slim thorn
Popular user-defined tags for this product:
Roguelike
Management
Space Sim
Choose Your Own Adventure
arctic fern
Like half of them died, lol
how many times did harry kim die? we had quantum ships, clones, all sorts of bullshit
also hey we can promote harry from ensign
(i dont know probably not)
graceful bridge
> Popular user-defined tags for this product:
> Roguelike
> Management
> Space S...
Yeah, it looks like you have to maintain the ship & can build/replace components and rooms. Then there's timed quests and narrative events where you have to give orders.
graceful bridge
also hey we can promote harry from ensign
-# Not according to Lower Decks.
slim thorn
this is sounding improbably like "FTL but with a AAA budget"
do kids still know what FTL was
river veldt
Faster Than Light right ? i think it's a roguelike but that's all i know about it
arctic fern
Oooh, okay. So it's kind of a management sim
it was my first thought when this was mentioned
arctic fern
Faster Than Light right ? i think it's a roguelike but that's all i know about i...
OMG
graceful bridge
FTL is tons of fun, very difficult to win
slim thorn
I always thought of it as the most Star Trek-y non-Star Trek game I played and liked (how often can you actually "reroute all power to shields"?)
and one of the first big roguelites, back when that wasn't even a trend yet
graceful bridge
Speaking of which, one streamer I was watching had the FTL soundtrack loaded into Rimworld while he was playing with a gravship. 
arctic fern
I always thought of it as the most Star Trek-y non-Star Trek game I played and l...
btw have you played https://store.steampowered.com/app/527100/Star_Trek_Bridge_Crew/
slim thorn
nope
slim thorn
that might be why I didn't
little badger
Speaking of which, one streamer I was watching had the FTL soundtrack loaded int...
First look at the Rainbow outfit for Batman
arctic fern
that might be why I didn't
it is really fun tho
graceful bridge
btw have you played https://store.steampowered.com/app/527100/Star_Trek_Bridge_C...
I'd have loved to play it, but I don't have VR.
-# Or friends
arctic fern
you can play on a TOS based vessel and... I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT ANY OF THE BUTTONS DO
oh you can play without VR
its just better in it
little badger
Just press every button until you get it right
arctic fern
see that would make sense in most games
but bridge crew requires you to do precise actions mid-battle
otherwise you die
little badger
What does this button do? ships blows up
arctic fern
well no, you just fail to fire missiles or send repair crews to the right sub system or not redirect power to shields
slim thorn
[Eject Warp Core]
little badger
I’ve seen gameplay of it just never played the game
arctic fern
i dont htink you can do that :(
slim thorn
aw, Steel Battallion had a big red eject button
do kids still know what Steel Battallion was
arctic fern
never played it unfortunatly
slim thorn
yeah, the proper experience is not what you'd call "accessible"
if my sibling hadn't been such a huge mech fan I doubt I would've
(and even then, I never tried a proper full campaign when I had the chance)
hasty patio
btw have you played https://store.steampowered.com/app/527100/Star_Trek_Bridge_C...
I have. I think you don't need VR to do it, but it feels better in most things with it.
hasty patio
I'd have loved to play it, but I don't have VR.
-# Or friends
I can fix one of those.
graceful bridge
You have a spare VR set? 
arctic fern
god i wish
my vr is borked :(
one of the lighthouses is broken
still its an orignial vive that i got for £30
hasty patio
I have a set that I haven't used in a while, but the game is much cheaper. There's another one that is trying to be grander in that approach too.
green fulcrum
(i dont know probably not)
It'd be funny (and a bit cruel, admittedly) if you were allowed to promote every other member of the crew all the way up to Commander, even Neelix, but Kim in the game is programmed to never go above Ensign, and if he somehow does, the story gives you a narrative option that forces you to demote him back to Ensign.
arctic fern
that would be the best feature
the higher hes promoted the worse things go for the rest of the ship
green fulcrum
There's a way to make it worse.
At certain points, characters can ask if they've earned a promotion yet, or your senior officers can put them up for promotion. For these moments, you can look at their accomplishments and either agree or disagree with the promotion. No senior officer will ever put Harry Kim up for one, and when he eventually asks, you don't get the standard agree or disagree options. You just get "OK" to close the window, and it's never brought up again.
bronze abyss
this is gonna take a whiiiile 
approx 100xp per match and i need 14k just to level up to 67,and the needed amount increases with each level so its only gonna get worse
quiet swift
slim thorn
#SwordOfTheSea: early impressions are it's got the same magic as Journey 
rancid herald
the band???
little badger
Another announcement
green fulcrum
The announcement: delayed until 2027
smoky sonnet
wdym another? there's a youtube premiere scheduled in 12 hours, has been for two days
little badger
wdym another? there's a youtube premiere scheduled in 12 hours, has been for two...
It was revealed at ONL it would still release this year. But I’m guessing they are actually announcing the release date today
quiet swift
bronze abyss
The announcement: delayed until 2027
shit would be hilarious
sheer entertainment from silksong cope is so much better than what the game could ever be 
slim thorn
don't worry, even if it does come out, you'll still get a flood of "Silksong's okay I guess but it's not curing cancer" and "was Hollow Knight ever that good" and other emotional reasoning
smoky sonnet
It was revealed at ONL it would still release this year. But I’m guessing they a...
the youtube page was up even before the gamescom thing, geoff said during that that they were doing their own announcement
wind stump
the best gift of all
copium
smoky sonnet
it would be so funny if it shadowdropped
people who flew out to germany for the demo scrambling to get home to play
wind stump
fun enough
wind stump
me
little badger
the youtube page was up even before the gamescom thing, geoff said during that t...
I know he said it. But I thought he said closer to the release
Day 2 of Xbox about to start. https://www.twitch.tv/xbox
https://www.youtube.com/live/P45cJ2HdFh4?si=f8LAyMXO9HCB6LYo
Starting now.
frozen gate
don't worry, even if it does come out, you'll still get a flood of "Silksong's o...
when i was on the tbfp subreddit after the deadpool announcement that apparently drove the HK community insane lot of people were sayin there's a very possible massive wave of disappointment coming if Silksong genuinely doesnt cure cancer with the amount of hype it's built up lol
which is exacerbated by how silent the devs are on its development
wind stump
i don't know when but the Godzilla DLC for Dave the Diver is bacccckkkkk
slim thorn
I’m not sure any non-silence by the devs would’ve been better 
still, if anyone does come here to whine about Silksong, I’ll have a whole list of “other metroidvanias you should’ve been playing” ready to go 
slim thorn
and Nine Sols, and Ori, and Grime, and Yoku, and Guacamelee, and…
slim thorn
it’s so pretty
though I’m currently getting my “so pretty” indie vibes from Sword of the Sea
hushed onyx
still, if anyone does come here to whine about Silksong, I’ll have a whole list ...
Yeah, but I don’t care about any of those because they don’t have Hornet
river veldt
can i get a true
gaunt marten
True
teal sonnet
unreal idol
I hope its good lol
I remember when Duke Nukem Forever came out and nobody gave a shit
visual hill
DNF had a leaked version that's arguably better than the final game (well, what was completed and restored by modders at least)
the final game is a bit better with community mods, but still not amazing
in short, you'll have a better time replaying Duke3D today
but yeah, I think the Silksong jokes went way too far and people are going to be disappointed (or delusional about it :P)
unreal idol
Yeah im afraid a lot of people are going to let the memes and hype color their expectations
visual hill
even Counter-Strike 2 which is mostly a tech upgrade ended up being way overhyped for what it is
gaunt marten
You don't have to consider what people say
visual hill
(source: I was a bit too hyped about it too...)
unreal idol
TIL there's a Counter Strike 2
unreal idol
You don't have to consider what people say
I'm just expressing a desire for people to not let their hype runaway
Ive done it before. I've been ultra hyped for something only for it to be crap
It's a shitty feeling
little badger
DNF had a leaked version that's arguably better than the final game (well, what ...
I still have the demo of Forever on my PS3 From years ago
visual hill
my father bought DNF on release
as someone who played Duke3D when it was fairly new, he was quite disappointed
little badger
I do own the full game just haven’t played it in a long time
slim thorn
given Team Cherry's past behavior, Silksong being bad seems astronomically unlikely IMO
the far more likely problem is people hyping themselves up so much that even a perfectly solid game disappoints them
unreal idol
I'm more familiar with the hype-memes than the actual games
slim thorn
especially if it's meaningfully different from Hollow Knight, in ways that make some players reasonably prefer one or the other, like how Doom 2016 and Eternal and (I'm told) TDA were all different
unreal idol
Sometimes I wish I liked Metroidvanias, they seem like on paper they'd be great for me
Which is extra weird because I loved Metroid and Castlevania on NES
slim thorn
could be a sign that genres defined by game mechanics and core gameplay loops are not the primary factor in whether you personally like a game
wouldn't be the first time
CaptainMario — 9/26/23, 19:12
i guess i haven't played too many 3d platformers excluding Mario. i tried Hat in Time and got bored, same with Spyro (sorry GT) and Crash
slim thorn
oh, I tried one Shantae game and thought it was mediocre 
gaunt marten
I played like four and they were all like that
My conclusion is that people like them because boobs
slim thorn
to be fair, I did think the humor was on point, but that's too small a part of the experience to make Flitter even slightly incorrect
bitter stream
I think there's a few speedrunners who enjoy the gameplay... but they are playing a different game lol
unreal idol
I definitely like boobs but it wasn't a significant factor
slim thorn
yeah, lots of games are better or worse as speedgames than as normal people games
bitter stream
The rougelike Pokemon speedrunners are built different. Idk how they enjoy the RNG casino that is that mod of pokemon hahah
river veldt
i think the last time i was this excited for a game was TotK, which exceeded my expectations
bitter stream
hype is fun to partake in! hope you enjoy the game Captain
unreal idol
I find it harder and harder to get excited for games
visual hill
My conclusion is that people like them because boobs
Stellar Blade players: First time?
slim thorn
Cap: yeah you seem to be pretty good at hyping without the downsides
visual hill
I played Heavy Metal: FAKK2 a few months ago and heh, it's almost a Stellar Blade prequel on this aspect
unreal idol
The last time I was locked in on hype was Pokemon Sword/Shield
I learned a very important lesson
slim thorn
I find it harder and harder to get excited for games
these days I only get excited for games from indie studios I can reliably trust to produce something that, even if it doesn't utterly change my life, will at least be good and different from everything else I've played
(which this week is Sword of the Sea)
(and, admittedly, soon will be Silksong; Team Cherry still falls into that trusted bucket)
unreal idol
Is that related to Sea of Stars at all
slim thorn
nope, it's by the same devs as Journey (and Abzu and The Pathless, but Journey's the one most have heard of)
unreal idol
Ah I'm unfamiliar
slim thorn
it does take some effort and risk to find indie devs you vibe with, but it's worth it, especially if you feel like you're missing something from the games you are paying attention to
sacred grove
There are a few reviewers who got to play Silksong early. I didn't look too deeply into it, but the initial impressions I caught were that it's very much "more Hollow Knight", like a very very big expansion that's probably at least as big as the base game, if not bigger. That's roughly what I gleaned
Just to set expectations. It's not an entirely new game
gaunt marten
I'm definitely expecting a sequel
slim thorn
it would be strange to not expect a sequel to be a sequel
unreal idol
it does take some effort and risk to find indie devs you vibe with, but it's wor...
I think the only game I've been "paying attention to" outside of FF14 has been... DK Bananza? And I already know its good and what to expect; there are unlikely to be negative surprises
sacred grove
it would be strange to not expect a sequel to be a sequel
Yeah, but, you know, hype tends to do things
slim thorn
true, Nintendo is another dev that's reliable in a lot of ways
unreal idol
Nintendo rarely misses with their main titles
They're the Disney of gaming; they make fantastic products but I hope a natural disaster strikes their HQ
bitter stream
kirby air riders looks so fun, but like, Switch 2 prices are kinda nuts
slim thorn
and the products they make have just the right mix of familiarity and novelty and generally accurate marketing that everyone's already figured out which franchises they like and whether they should be paying attention to the next installment
unreal idol
I literally buy nintendo systems specifically for Smash
slim thorn
like how I'll play some Marios and Zeldas, but I'm never gonna 100% those franchises, yet I have played every single (real) Metroid game
bitter stream
fair enough
unreal idol
Uh
visual hill
I literally buy nintendo systems *specifically for Smash*
these games are system sellers for a lot of people
smoky sonnet
gift link from the guy who wrote this article on the silksong development situation
slim thorn
were you expecting that to embed lol
smoky sonnet
were you expecting that to embed lol
i mean yeah
unreal idol
I should look more into indie games
slim thorn
if you can say more about games you do like, and particularly why you like them, we can probably help suggest stuff
e.g. there's some very well-liked indies with Pokemon mechanics
unreal idol
If there's one thing I suck at its explaining why I like something 
slim thorn
it takes practice
smoky sonnet
the devs were blissfully unaware of how bad the community got, because they were staying off the internet and were just working on the game
unreal idol
Being a weird, introverted quasi-hiki with massive anxiety doesn't help
slim thorn
there are games about that
unreal idol
Might be too close to home
slim thorn
yeah, I like it when games can get me emotional, but that's clearly a higher-risk proposition for you
random steppe
I would like to say, I called the two weeks time frame between the trailer and the releasw
bitter stream
Last Epoch (Diablo-like ARPG) is launching season 3 with a dinosaur theme in 1 hour or so 
I'm so excited to try the new combinations, builds, and items
random steppe
Exacly what they did with HK
(just now got time to get to my phone, was deadly busy
unreal idol
I find myself bouncing between FF14, Master Duel, and recently I best BOTW again but I've been filling that with retro games again
smoky sonnet
I would like to say, I called the two weeks time frame between the trailer and t...
yeah, i expected it too
unreal idol
Celeste and Balatro have been on my list potentially
As far as recent indie games go
smoky sonnet
celeste is really really really good
forest shoal
unreal idol
I need to get over my fear of spending money
smoky sonnet
i like celeste a normal amount
-# i got 202 berries recently
slim thorn
it's also completely reasonable to wait for one of the big Steam sales, and pick up a bunch of "everyone loves this but I have no idea if it's my kind of game" indies for 2 quid each
unreal idol
I always miss those
Or when I do notice its like the last day or it's a bad time to buy games
bitter stream
Steam Autumn sale is 29 of September - 6 October if you'd like to put it in a calendar or something
smoky sonnet
steam wishlist will give you notifications for when games are on sale
slim thorn
(I have like 50 games on my wishlist I should probably clean it out a bit...)
smoky sonnet
you can check steamdb to see what the cheapest sales have been historically
river veldt
seeing how small Team Cherry is when i watched the Hollow Knight credits recently, reminded me of when i first completed A Link to the Past and like, 10 developers worked on it. it's crazy lmao, these games feel enormous and then have super small teams
slim thorn
it also shows just how much better game dev technology has gotten since then
sacred grove
Bigger teams come with a tradeoff too. The bigger it is, the more it has to be managed
unreal idol
steam wishlist will give you notifications for when games are on sale
Oh I didn't know that
slim thorn
wishlists also make it really easy to go "Oh it's a sale day. open wishlist, sort by discount"
I put near zero time into strategic game discount hunting, unlike some people here
unreal idol
I didn't know steam had those features, I should wishlist them when I get home
random steppe
I wonder about the price now, we don't know that yet right?
slim thorn
these days I think nearly every e-shop/e-commerce site has something similar
even the streaming services I'm subscribed to let me add shows to my "watchlist" before they're released
unreal idol
Huh, interesting
random steppe
HK being 15 bucks was kind of insane for its size and quality, I expect a hike for silksong, of how much it's hard to say
slim thorn
(for all its faults, capitalism is very good at developing tools to make it easier to decide what you want to buy... so you end up buying more things 
)
unreal idol
cough
slim thorn
gotta take the Ws where they exist
unreal idol
You have no idea how wrong you are
river veldt
HK being 15 bucks was kind of insane for its size and quality, I expect a hike f...
im expecting 25-30 dollars maybe ?
unreal idol
I had to go to my hospital in person because they refused to mail me a bill for some insane reason
Like do you want mu fucking money or not
river veldt
i forgot how cheap Hollow Knight is
slim thorn
oh that's what you meant
random steppe
I mean let's be fucking honest, I'll pay it even if it's higher, but yeah 30 bucks would be around the market price for these kind of premium indie nowdays
slim thorn
that's... a very different set of systemic incentives than what I was referring to
it took them long enough to release Silksong that inflation alone justifies a higher price
bitter stream
💀
hushed onyx
I had to go to my hospital *in person* because they refused to mail me a bill fo...
Yeah, but hospitals aren’t really capitalist 
unreal idol
LMAO
hushed onyx
They have a captive customer base so they don’t need to care about inducing you to buy more.
slim thorn
probably best not to dig into the economic theory on this stuff
random steppe
That's not really what that means right?
By that logic someone selling water in the desert ad a massive price wouldn't be capitalist because they have a captive base.
If anything they are more capitalist
hushed onyx
probably best not to dig into the economic theory on this stuff
Yeah probably 
slim thorn
as much as I love the theory, almost nobody uses "capitalist" in a neutral theoretical sense any more
hushed onyx
That's not really what that means right?
By that logic someone selling water in ...
There are other factors involved, I was focusing on convenience. Your example also involves someone who does not need to make it convenient because everyone has to pay them anyway.
random steppe
Gotcha
slim thorn
maybe you were trying to allude to the concept of a "natural monopoly"?
(for the non-economists: utility companies are usually natural monopolies, and that's part of why utilities are often heavily regulated if not outright government-managed)
anyway we're supposed to be freaking out that Silksong is real
visual hill
look into IsThereAnyDeal, it's better than wishlists for sale tracking as it tracks other sites too
unreal idol
I would too prefer to talk about games and not economics
visual hill
it's the site that pushes me to impulse buy games these days 
random steppe
I'm just surprised TC actually stuck to the "shut the fuck up friday" policy for 6 whole years and didn't actually break, they even kept the 2 weeks announcement thing.
random steppe
I would have at least expected one communication when they missed the 2023 "semi announced" deadline
slim thorn
fair, I've completely forgotten what was going on in 2023
random steppe
I think it was Microsoft fault someway that it happened so I get why maybe they didn't feel the need to explain
hushed onyx
I don’t expect to buy any more games for the foreseeable future since
- I don’t have a job
- I have a ton of games I haven’t played or haven’t played enough;
- I don’t spend that much time on games now anyway.
frozen gate
look into IsThereAnyDeal, it's better than wishlists for sale tracking as it tra...
im still getting emailed about pathfinder wotr sales because ive been too lazy to go log back in and change my watchlist since i havent been buying games hahaha
unreal idol
I wish Balatro still had a downloadable demo
frozen gate
but it is a massive help to have those sale notifications, everything centralized in one place
instead of regularly checking gmg, humble, etc
unreal idol
Does Celeste have a demo? I can't remember
frozen gate
dont thjnk so
unreal idol
Damn
visual hill
do you want some pizza from a LEGO island? https://isle.pizza/
green fulcrum
Holy crap, I haven't seen this game in like 20 years...
gaunt marten
Everyone when I say I didn't enjoy Portal https://i.imgur.com/jgO2EiT.png
These motherfuckers are feral. Every single dagannoth in the room beelined me
wintry canopy
Silksong release date.
https://youtu.be/6XGeJwsUP9c?si=5_FNOcIB2KxjE5WH
slim thorn
feesh
wind stump
playing Infinite Wealth was a mistake
Just
I think any plot involving Altzimer's is going to be a fucking knife to the heart.
arctic fern
OH NOOOOO
wind stump
I'll respect the fuck out of the game for going where it did with that
But damn, not a good time to be on the Wizard Whiskey
hidden elbow
Silksong release date.<a:pippwiggle:1019590422655406201>
https://youtu.be/6XGeJ...
I am kinda scared because the only reason they at the time stopped working and finished hollow knight was because they almost ran out out of all Kickstarter money , but in Silksong they had no money problems and they deadass....just kept working and working until they thought it was enough
hidden elbow
I am kinda scared because the only reason they at the time stopped working and f...
Just....how huge is this game going to be ?
green fulcrum
Silksong release date.<a:pippwiggle:1019590422655406201>
https://youtu.be/6XGeJ...
I am genuinely happy that Hollow Knight fans can finally rest easy knowing that Silksong is almost here, but damn it I would've died laughing if they announced another delay. I would've screamed with laughter so hard that my windows would've shattered.
wind stump
i'm going to blow something up
visual hill
there is literally a "Fish" setting under graphics <:rdsnrk:587780329335422977>
Call of Duty Ghosts flashback
fickle garnet
I need to start focusing on one game at a time, cuz I have a really bad habit of picking up multiple games at the same time
I should be focusing on Death Stranding 2 still, but now im playing Hollow Knight
worthy rose
Take-Two Guts ‘BioShock’ Studio After a Decade of Development - Bloomberg https://share.google/Xfnh9XoxremKhXvcC
30% of staff laid off
visual hill
I need to start focusing on one game at a time, cuz I have a really bad habit of...
I started a new game yesterday (or rather a fan campaign for Unreal), Operation Na Pali
once again, I am amazed at how good it looks, it's a relatively early fan campaign (first released in 2002)
these Kralls must have rolled a d-500,000
some of its maps are made by Hourences, which is a name I recognize because he wrote a level design book that became free a few years ago
visual hill
some of its maps are made by Hourences, which is a name I recognize because he w...
http://www.hourences.com/product/the-hows-and-whys-of-level-design-2/ if anyone's interested, it's a good read even if you are just curious about how game levels were made back then (and much of the advice is still relevant 20 years on)
fickle garnet
34 hours into Death Stranding 2, and I just died for the first, and second time. I was hoping I wouldn,t die at all, because it honestly makes me sad when I die in Death Stranding, because of the scar it leaves on the world
Genuinely the saddest I've felt when dying in a game
fresh bane
If it makes you feel any better they do go away after a while
the timefall speeds up the 'healing' process
and you can always just save scum 
fickle garnet
If it makes you feel any better they do go away after a while
Oh that's good to know
wind stump
"I'm not a sonic fan."
randomly without prompting: "Ah yes, Charmy Bee from Sonic Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog, specifically Stage 3 of the neutral route, Prison Island where you have to collect 5 CDs"
bitter stream
You're in deep, but you aren't a sonic fan. You're a game enjoyer 👍 /positive tone
smoky sonnet
chaotix erasure :(
visual hill
Stop Killing Games keeps on winning: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/08/the-original-splitgate-will-live-on-with-player-hosted-matches/
even if the law doesn't pass, the cultural impact of the petition still helps 🙂
(I'm pretty sure this wouldn't have had happened without it)
slim thorn
oh, what makes you sure?
(is this a rare case where it's actually worth reading the article)
wind stump
chaotix erasure :(
look nobody remembers the Sega 32X game Knuckles Chaotix unless you're into very dumb and niche topics like bad consoles and weird obscure games
quiet swift
(I'm pretty sure this wouldn't have had happened without it)
Not really, this more has to do with what they released for splitgate 2 (and since unreleased it) was terrible, whereas 1 was quite popular. Even if they're not hosting it themselves, having player hosted version allows the game and company to stay in the awareness of the public
static bluff
look nobody remembers the Sega 32X game Knuckles Chaotix unless you're into very...
I owned it.
and it was super fun
the hate for it is unreasonable
quiet swift
You remember the"make fps great again" hat guy, that's the splitgate lead
slim thorn
never heard of that, is it as bad as that implies
wind stump
and it was super fun
from what i've seen it's a... unique game to say the least
cerulean herald
never heard of that, is it as bad as that implies
pretty much, yeah
iirc the guy got called out for it, and he doubled-down and just dug a hole deeper for himself
quiet swift
Splitgate 2 released with the usual microtransactions, but a few had huge price tags. He blamed it on a guy that had recently left the company... but he'd brought that guy in from I believe EA
And they added a battle royale mode as the main feature when splitgate 1 didn't have that and people never asked for it
wind stump
You remember the"make fps great again" hat guy, that's the splitgate lead <:rdwu...
FPS as in the genre or the idea of frames per second
slim thorn
sounds like a textbook clueless exec move
cerulean herald
the genre
wind stump
quiet swift
genre
cerulean herald
sounds like a textbook clueless exec move
he went on & on about how he will never apologize for wearing the hat...and then in the end he made an apology statement
quiet swift
https://youtu.be/ZHV3hSb-2hI?si=GLQRFXfVPQC9hl0o
https://youtu.be/7ymkDJyF-9Y?si=OrSwNIaoLij43ZBL
Bellular made some videos about it, one two months ago when things first started going wrong and the most recent one last week
slim thorn
meanwhile I've never heard of Splitgate before, and all of this being what y'all want to say about it tells me the actual game is of no interest
quiet swift
Ixrec: the hat itself actually seemed to be the least of the problems. It wasn't a good look, but the cavalcade of bad decisions and reception of the game was wholly unrelated to the hat
Ixrec: oh pretty sure it wouldn't be your style. Think Halo PVP with Portals
as in, portal the game portals
Neat concept and it does look like it would be a lot of fun, just not for me
slim thorn
yeah, since you said fps and battle royale I'd already put together that it was a multiplayer fps
quiet swift
But yeah, the videos will give you all info you'd want, hence why i'm pretty sure that its splitgate 2's terrible performance that is the leading decision behind the change to 1
Break glass in case of emergency move
wind stump
quiet swift
PUT THE KEYBOARD DOWN, HC
cerulean herald
technically theyre putting the keyboard down...over and over
slim thorn
suddenly I have a lot of videos to watch
I'm still maybe 1/3 through this Disco Elysium kerfuffle
cerulean herald
what sort of videos do you usually watch on YT?
slim thorn
most typically video essays, especially media analysis
wind stump
okay so like, Hollow Knight players
what is Gods and Nightmares and why is it a DLC rather than a free content pack like the others?
oh it's an OST
nvm, oops
based Team Cherry for releasing all their DLC-viable content for free!
i swore i played this game...
wind stump
like an hour later i am actually starting the game
holy shit it's Genryu!
ALWAYS. GO. LEFT. IN A METROIDVANIA.
smoky sonnet
quiet swift
More subnautica 2 shenanigans. Apparently, Unknown worlds, the DEV STUDIO (not publisher) are suing the former studio execs for stealing documents and sharing them with the press.
Shenanigan: they are being represented by a certain lawyer firm. The same firm that is representing Krafton in the suit where Krafton is defending themselves against the allegations brought against them by said studio execs.
High chance this is a sympathy move tactic by the lawyers, as Krafton 100% owns Unknown worlds, and so they can make this move
green fulcrum
wind stump
um... is there somehing here or am i gaslighting myself? just like, the platform here is making me think there's something here...
green fulcrum
That whole situation with Subnautica 2 is so cursed and confusing. It's effectively killed any hype for the game.
slim thorn
#1091169976217509918 btw
wind stump
ah thansies, shall post my nonsense there
arctic fern
That whole situation with Subnautica 2 is so cursed and confusing. It's effectiv...
im a gonna wait for the dust to settle before passing judgement
pribably not buying the game anyhow
below zero was a big disapointment to me
visual hill
(is this a rare case where it's actually worth reading the article)
it's always worth reading GamingOnLinux
(I back its Patreon)
slim thorn
#SwordOfTheSea: got the speedrun achievement first try 
quiet swift
"Lamps in video games are using real electricity."
visual hill
<a:twiactually:613109204118667293> "Lamps in video games are using real electric...
this is actually kind of valid, even if the above page is an april fools' 
bitter stream
#SwordOfTheSea: got the speedrun achievement first try <:flutteryay:399725088221...
yo nice work
gaunt marten
Holy shit I'm rich https://i.imgur.com/f3s4621.png
frozen gate
5 coins more to the coins pile
gaunt marten
I spent like 900 coins getting it
frozen gate
895 coins less to the coins pile
visual hill
I think this first Tokyo race in MC2 already doubled my blood pressure, but at least it was worth it
I did at least one fairly big mistake and still top 3
little badger
wind stump
little badger
Gamescom will return in October for the Asia show
bronze abyss
finally beast and mother both done
bronze abyss
approx 5 seconds worth of dps away from beating hush i died 
the chasing pillar attack killed me
nohit the rest of hush
chilly mural
quiet swift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSOCy0ciKEI I feel called out.
wind stump
YOU KEEP YOUR FILTHY GARLIC
which
is just like
bro has too much garlic
seriously, i like garlic, but this is a tad much
wind stump
quiet swift
seriously, i like garlic, but this is a tad much
Maybe he's the garlic vendor?
gaunt marten
I have to play Kakurasu to do this quest https://i.imgur.com/dLwxJTC.png
arctic fern
https://www.vintagestory.at/blog.html/news/v1210-story-chapter-2-redux-stable-r420/ ooo vintage story 1.21 just released
not a lot of content updates, mostly polishing existing stuff
gaunt marten
Whoever is in charge of naming these songs is not very creative https://i.imgur.com/pd4aLXv.png
fresh bane
jesus this really went from bad to worse
slim thorn
oh these enemies must suck in fixed angles
fresh bane
Not any harder than they already suck normally, this is my most hated area of this game by far, but I understand the whole idea is to navigate the narrow passageways with monsters that take up most of the space, I just seriously messed up the first time by going in the direction of the big arm instead of the smaller one where they can't reach you
I also had to reload this part and i have to do it again anyways because I had too many items in my inventory so yay
random steppe
Yo @astral bolt, I know you liked Hamilton quite a bit, this gacha game apparently released this piece of music which has very Hamilton vibe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj9O0vj6Y9o
Though you'd appreciate it.
Evil Gay Catboy Hamilton is surprisingly solid.
fresh bane
the actual luckiest G2 fight I've ever gotten
first he grabs me and didn't slash at me which would've killed me, then I got lucky enough to get the full damage of the spark gun and stunned him mid lunge, then I waited just enough to stack up the damage of the spark gun with the damage from the container to kill him
had to redo the entire sewer section to get to that too since on the original save I had used up a lot of herbs and ammunition 
also oh no, jacket-ception
for some reason I had to activate Claire's jacket-less look on the menu instead of the game just doing that automatically
quiet swift
Ah, yes, only the purest and finest copium
fickle garnet
Biggest cope I've seen in a bit😭
green fulcrum
cerulean herald
eager bane
Ah, yes, only the purest and finest copium
Aaaaarrrrrgggghhhh I hate the AAA-industry 
If they put all those millions into a bunch of AA-games with creative freedom, we would have gotten such a wave of gems 
slim thorn
to be fair, the business premise of live service always was one of churning through several projects because when one of them does hit it should pay for all the failures and then some
but yeah even that plan fails when market saturation means none of them ever "hit"
eager bane
I'm mostly speaking out of selfish interest. I miss the way huge games were designed during the PS2 era so much
and I'm not at all one for live service games. I've got neither time nor energy for that.
slim thorn
same, that entire genre(???) has been of zero interest to me from the start
but the kinds of games I do want seem to have been picked up by the indie scene in the meantime, so I'm not "missing" much either
hushed onyx
I'm not sure I'd call it a "genre" so much as an "architectural decision". You could conceivably have live-service games of wildly different genres, e.g. FPSes (obviously) versus RPGs (well that's just a MMORPG, isn't it?) versus space sims (Elite Dangerous) versus city-builders or strategy games.
Just to name a few.
slim thorn
tbc, I agree, but people sometimes call it a genre and that's not totally wrong, since there are a lot of design tropes and traditional genres that tend to go hand-in-hand with live service-ness
it's like how "horror" is often called a genre even though, especially in video games, it's obviously not a description of the core gameplay loop that we normally use to define a game's primary genre
or like when someone says they "don't like mobile games" as a sweeping generalization, referring presumably to all the things mobile does far more often
hushed onyx
I don't like mobile games because my phone's screen is too small 
gaunt marten
There are mobile games that work great on a small screen
slim thorn
in my experience, the only genre that I would say does not suffer at all from screen size and touch interface limitations is the point-and-click (tap?) puzzle/adventure, especially when it's an indie game with some stylized aesthetic that doesn't require high fidelity, such as Monument Valley
gaunt marten
Yeah
slim thorn
most of the mobile-specific game genres I've heard about, e.g. infinite runners, don't feel like a truly new genre that happens to be unconstrained by mobile platforms, so much as e.g. what happens to platformers once dumbed down to the point that mobile can handle it
gaunt marten
I like Desktop Dungeons. If your screen is really small you might suffer a bit, but otherwise it's deliberate and well-designed
visual hill
to be fair, the business premise of live service always was one of churning thro...
it's very similar to VC startup funding
the invested money that goes in failed projects would have been paid in taxes anyway, and there's a small chance you fund a massive success
astral steeple
lmao black ops 7 will no longer have carry forward with operator skins from bo6
Way to make bo7 even more pointless
Activision: "Some of you have said we’ve drifted from what made Call of Duty unique in the first place: immersive, intense, visceral and in many ways grounded. That feedback hits home, and we take it seriously. We hear you."
light gate
I mean, it’s a military shooter… but I do agree that Black Ops has zombies so there never really was any ‘realism’.
Honestly I want BF6 to come out already.
toxic seal
lmao black ops 7 will no longer have carry forward with operator skins from bo6
...
"We hear you. We're not gonna fuckin do anything about it because it's less profitable than celebrity and meme skins but we hear you."
astral steeple
I mean clearly they're doing something by not making the operators transfer over
astral steeple
I'm pretty sure they're not gonna put the collab skins or goofy skins in bo7 at all
bitter stream
Time will tell, I suppose.
toxic seal
Okay so maybe I misinterpreted that and they mean that because BO7 will be more realistic and grounded they are separating it from the wild nonsense in 6
slim thorn
so I stopped paying attention somewhere around blops 1.5
what do they keep doing to make new games out of this sub-sub-subgame
bitter stream
not much, minor changes at best, sometimes some movement changes that are... hit or miss. Campaigns are different, but that's also hit or miss depending on what type of player you are.
toxic seal
I actually did quite enjoy the BO6 campaign. Still disappointingly short but fun and engaging
bitter stream
People buy it the same way they buy FIFA,
if new itteration comes out
then Buy
End if
toxic seal
Also I lucked out and got the glitch where the game gives you like 9 billion in cash so I immediately could get all campaign upgrades
astral steeple
Probably gonna end up being the least sold cod game because this change lol
Most people generally only play bo6 and warzone for the bizarre crossovers
Like I had bought the beavis and butthead bundle in warzone and bo6 and played for a good bit because of them being added
Same with skeletor
slim thorn
People buy it the same way they buy FIFA,
if new itteration comes out
then B...
now that you mention it, maybe these "annual update games" were the precursor to live service games
toxic seal
The glitch apparently had 2 variants. One where it gave you billions, another where it gave you negative billions
Understandably, the positive billions glitch is more fun
When they patched it they said everyone who got the positive billions could keep it. Doesn't affect online at all so it makes sense
bitter stream
now that you mention it, maybe these "annual update games" were the precursor to...
Makes sense to me, I mean, they all partake in the same lineage as the granparent of gambling HQ, mtg. Same set released with a new coat of paint and slightly different mechanics each season, gamba for pieces, and basically interchangeable
I think someone just looked at that monetisation system and went, "why not videogames like that"
slim thorn
and I never got into TCGs or sports games either
bitter stream
Probably the wiser choice. Boardgames are the better buy for physical IRL play anyway, specially bang for buck
fickle garnet
Black Ops 6 is kinda dogshit, so I'm not really excited for Black Ops 7
slim thorn
granted I never did much boardgaming after moving out (don't have anyone irl to play with)
bitter stream
aww, that's a shame, Boardgaming can be a lot of fun.
slim thorn
in my case it's more that I seem to have been born without the gene that makes gambling in any way appealing
even before bringing in any morality or risk aversion
toxic seal
Despite other addictive tendencies I have never felt the gambling itch
slim thorn
the only "gamble" I'm interested in is buying and playing a game to find out if it's any fun
toxic seal
Losing feels bad, winning feels good, I do not feel the loop that makes people play over and over
slim thorn
yeah, part of making a game fun is making losing either feel good or not really happen
bitter stream
Y'all are lucky lmao. That said, I found outlets for my RNG joy, such as ARPGs, Terraria, Vampire Survivors etc
slim thorn
yeah, part of making a game fun is making losing either feel good or not really ...
Ixrec — 6/18/24, 23:27
for me the litmus test for a potential new favorite game is if the boss fight vaporizes me in two seconds and my immediate reaction is "yeah, I can take that guy"
bitter stream
I wish I could grind the hours like my friend can. Idk how they maintain focus over 2+ hours a session, but they do. Maybe it's the ADHD meds they take?
slim thorn
at least for me it also depends heavily on the game
gaunt marten
You can have ADHD and hyperfocus on some things
Medication makes it possible to focus on other things
slim thorn
I'm pretty sure part of the reason I gravitate toward metroidvanias instead of, let's say, pure combat or pure platformer games is that having that mix of different kinds of gameplay allows me to shift mental focus and have just the right amount of choice over what I do next in the game (without becoming overwhelming or simply mandating a walkthrough like more complex genres do)
Furi's easily my favorite "pure combat" game, though I'm pretty sure I originally played that in much smaller chunks than most games for precisely this reason
If I did try to spend 2+ hours on a single boss fight I would eventually get sick of that and want a break, no matter how much fun I was having (and I've recently re-confirmed this with some Nine Sols challenges). I've done far longer gaming sessions, and they always had more variation.
bitter stream
hmm, I don't think its possible for me to induce hyperfocus, so ah well.
Yeah fair enough Ixrec
that's like, warframe grinding. Since the game rewards doing one maximally profitable activity non-stop in-order to get the new gun/part/warframe it's easy to get sick of it... unless you hyperfocus, i guess.
I suppose it's not a bad thing that I don't hyperfocus, much as it may feel bad to compare "progress".
slim thorn
if there is a metric worth comparing, it'd be fun per hour or per dollar, but of course we can't quantify fun (yet???)
bitter stream
interesting, but I doubt it's static? It's probably a changing curve, maybe you could read the area under it and come to an average, but that would be inaccurate too
slim thorn
it's also far more variable than a single number
like how I'm particularly happy I got to play Sword of the Sea before Silksong came out since those are very different games
(though I do want to go back and search for the other hidden collectibles...)
bitter stream
hmm, is it a different type of fun, or a different timbre of fun?
"They strike the same note, but no one mistakes a trumpet for a violin" sort of thing
slim thorn
maybe both? I'm not sure how to read that without "type" being a supercategory(???) of "timbre"
but backing up for a second
what I meant by "if there's a metric worth comparing, it's fun per ..."
is that there is some value in noticing things like "I consistently have more fun playing genre A than genre B, and the prices and lengths are comparable, so I should just play more As"
the real conclusions are usually more complicated than that, but every so often it becomes clear that someone isn't even asking these questions, and missing some really obvious optimizations like "my favorite game is an X so I should try more Xs"
bitter stream
yeah, fair enough. I imagine with enough time, you'd get exposure, (not just via playing, but videos, word of mouth etc) to enough genres to have a vague idea which one tends to have the most Fun ROI... though using ROI in a sentance like this makes me wonder if I went wrong somewhere lmao.
Like how movie goers know that "i like horror flicks, but not action" etc
slim thorn
as long as we keep in mind it's not a simple number, I think it's fine; the concepts still apply loosely
visual hill
I actually did quite enjoy the BO6 campaign. Still disappointingly short but fun...
I played a bit of it, it was great
but I didn't have time to finish it before my game pass trial ended
slim thorn
in my case I think I went out of my way to try most of the major game genres back when I was a teenager just getting into video games, so I can still point to things like "yes I played Smash for five minutes, but how to not suck at the game never really clicked for me" or "Age of Mythology was fun once but I never understood it deeply enough to have more fun than A-move and watch"
visual hill
move and watch
game and watch
bitter stream
hmm. that makes sense, though I wonder if you ever pass on games that have that kind of skill wall to get into.
Like, I'm really bad at fighting games, but I love to watch pros play, and even struggling to fight CPUs is fun on occasion.
Whether I should just stop playing games I don't get quickly is a question I don't know the answer to.
visual hill
but how to not suck at the game never really clicked for me
it takes a year at least, nobody has picked up the game quicker than that for serious competitive play
it's one of those games where you'll be bad at it for 500 to 1,000 hours
slim thorn
at least theoretically, it's pretty inevitable that we'll all pass on games we would've enjoyed, or drop games before we figure out how to enjoy them
but I've also tried these things enough that I'm pretty confident I have the rules of thumb worked out
visual hill
I myself am just starting to not be terrible at it 😛
slim thorn
for example, I am never going to spend 500 hours continuously on the same game
I barely have ever spent 500 total on a single game
it's just not how I engage with entertainment
visual hill
I have spent over 500 hours on it by now, but over the course of 1.5 years. I still play other games, it's just one of my "forever games" at this point
slim thorn
so genres where everyone agrees you need that kind of upfront investment, yeah, there's pretty clearly no point in me trying again
visual hill
it kind of replaced CS for this, which I only play occasionally with friends now
we did a bit of CS yesterday and despite not having played for 3 months, I still top-fragged most games
bitter stream
Different approaches for different people. I guess my family member is one of the Shopping for 500 hours types, given they know the price of garlic from 3 different shops and have worked out how to know when nearly anything is at "going rates".
slim thorn
every so often someone talking about an MMO or a 4X strategy game will say something like "of course it takes a hundred hours to figure out if the game's any good"
and I'm just
visual hill
it's a bit like TV shows where it only gets good from the 4th season or so 😛
I have rarely seen a MMO where the early game is super fun
bitter stream
Fallout 76, oddly enough is pretty fun in the early game. ESO... I didn't enjoy ESO from the start so maybe others can speak to that. WoW felt really dull, but people love it so I'm sure some people must have. Warframe was fun, fun enough that I played solo for a long time. It was a much smaller game at the time, idk how well it's integrated all the new stuff it has now into it's "early-game"
slim thorn
I've also heard that MMOs in general but WoW in particular have changed a lot since release, in ways that often makes the early game worse for novices
if only because there's so much total catch-up to do
bitter stream
hmm yeah could well be. I k now they sell boosts, so they have the incentive too
visual hill
how is FFXIV's early game in 2025?
bitter stream
🍷 Ah, If only I could explain the finer vintage of a game cooking narrative as part of a live service MMOTPS over 10 years, and seeing it blossom.
I suspect that's part of why people stick with them so long, they get invested.
I bounced of FFXIV twice, idk if I was playing it wrong, or if the early game is just as bewildering as it ever was.
slim thorn
"getting players invested" is certainly what the companies funding these forever games are trying to achieve
personally that premise just makes me want to come back when it's done and I can experience the whole story without enormous waiting periods
bitter stream
Yeah, I guess it's like brand loyalty building, just for game titles
slim thorn
probably the closest I've gotten to playing any of them is watching all of the Uma Musume and Arknights animes, but even those barely tempted me to get the actual games
bitter stream
I suppose it's the same with books right? they charge 30 AUD a book, and if it's good, you buy the sequel hoping it's also good, and if you're good enough, you write the Wheel of Time series.
I should eat ice cream.
seriously, how the heck did I manage to dissapoint myself by thinking about how bad a deal books are?
At least Libraries exist? sigh
I feel like I should take the jaded "Art has manipulated me into enjoying it" line seriously, so that probably means I need to take a break and come back later, when I'm not in a bad mental headspace. Have fun with games y'all.
hushed onyx
seriously, how the heck did I manage to dissapoint myself by thinking about how ...
Well, yes and no. On the one hand, resale shops and libraries have existed for ages for a reason: for a lot of people and a lot of books, they just read it once and not again. On the other hand, if you do like a book and reread it multiple times or do things (marginal notes, highlighting) that would be unsuitable for a book you intend to resale, then owning it is very worthwhile.
frozen gate
how is FFXIV's early game in 2025?
ARR? like base game until heavensward
it's pretty slow and not the most exciting last i remember it until near the end, but imo it takes after that point for the jobs to be super fun so u have to be kinda into the story
i think you can boost past it idr but it skips major setup of that ongoing story going into all future expansions
i love it after that point but ya most mmos dont have compelling early games, which might also just be a general rpg issue with weak early games, slow burns that can turn into something incredible if you get super invested and that's thekind of people it's made for
but also mmo fans tend to just also be super into the slow grinding process, it's kind of a dopamine treadmill or giving people something to do that's less of a choice and more part of their daily routine that kind of feels more cozy
frozen gate
I bounced of FFXIV twice, idk if I was playing it wrong, or if the early game is...
general consensus i thiiink is that ffxiv has a weaker early game than most other mmos and it's largely an issue eith having to have remade the game entirely from 1.0 -> 2.0, eventually grows really strong later on and is one of the best onwards
gaunt marten
Oldschool Runescape has a good early game and a good late game
It can and often is played as a single player game through ironman mode (where you can't trade)
fickle garnet
I stopped playing FFXIV in Heavensward, cuz I was getting a bit overwhelmed with trying to learn how to properly play jobs (classes) in it
frozen gate
ah that reminds me, ffxiv is basically a single player game thru a large chunk of its story content so that expectation of it being an mmo, being able to play with your friends, probably made a couple people bounce off realizing that wasnt really possible outside of the occasional dungeon
frozen gate
I stopped playing FFXIV in Heavensward, cuz I was getting a bit overwhelmed with...
they do havr a notorious piano keys kinda meme surrounding them later on, i enjoyed the engagement but it's not super accessible i can imagine aha
just to be clear i absolutely love ffxiv ahaha i think i sound too negative
unreal idol
I lovw FFXIV lol
fickle garnet
Another reason I stopped playing is because I was on PS5, and wanted to play on pc, but the only way to get my PS5 character over was to buy the game
I didn't have a pc when I started the game
frozen gate
unfortunate
i thiink you can plug in a mouse and keyboard and play it on the ps5 like that?
fickle garnet
Yeah you can
I could maybe just speed through ARR on a new character, cuz I wasn't very far into Heavensward
But idk
My sister also seems to want to play FFXIV, so maybe we could play it together
hasty patio
Sounds like a response to BF6 and how the presale is doing better than their product for now.
Also greed.
random steppe
Ok so, something really funny just happened
IDK if any of you are aware of what Duet Night Abyss is, but it's a Warframe clone that it's anime, that is supposed to come out in a few months, the main difference is that it was supposed to be a gacha game.
The devs came out and explained that they essentially wont be a gacha, and decided that everything will be earnable in game and they'll just monetise skins.
Now, the funny thing is, youtube recommended me various gacha games content creators that were talking to their audience about it, and it's surreal.
They treat it like a revolution in the genre, moterfucker, that's just a normal game you are describing, they have been here for very long.
bitter stream
hahah omg
random steppe
It is funny that this company is being heralded as visionaries now for just like...making a normal ass live service game, it's excellent
This sector of players have been held hostage for so long that they couldn't even fathom it
bitter stream
is the game any good? I've not heard much about it
gaunt marten
No it's a live service game
bitter stream
?? So is runescape, live service or no a game can be fun
gaunt marten
I don't think a game that sells cosmetics can be enjoyable
bitter stream
I'm not following, what about a cosmetic store ruins a game for you?
gaunt marten
It creates a strong incentive to barrage me with advertisements while I play the game, for one
bitter stream
Yeah, having ads interrupt or otherwise show up during gameplay would be pretty annoying. I suppose for me it depends how much advertsising and with what frequency
Do you pay the subscription for Runescape? or do they not really advertise it in-game?
frozen gate
osrs is free isn't it?
bitter stream
part of it is free I think? It's been a long time since I played
They have/had a membership with a larger world, more quests and exclusive skills
it's like, 75% of the game or something behind the subscription
gaunt marten
I do pay to play the game. They don't advertise for anything because I already paid
frozen gate
ah never mind then, had no idea
gaunt marten
It was very annoying to play the free to play portion and I did not enjoy being advertised to
bitter stream
What makes the subscription model worth it if the free to play portion was so annoying?
gaunt marten
It's a good game, and paying for it gets rid of the ads, leaving you with the good parts only
The monetization is set up in a clear and fair manner. There's only one purchase to make: the subscription
(don't confuse Oldschool Runescape with Runescape. The latter has very bad monetization)
bitter stream
There is another runescape that isn't oldschool runescape? could have fooled me lol
gaunt marten
There's several!
1- Runescape Classic. This is the second iteration of the game, discontinued. I don't even remember the name of the first iteration.
2- Runescape 2. It evolved out of Runescape classic. Also discontinued.
3- Runescape 3, the current and modern game we have today with lootboxes and microtransactions up the wazoo. So many that the company is trying to pivot to having fewer microtransactions.
4- Oldschool Runescape, which is based on a 2007 backup of Runescape 2, made popular by player demand. This is the one I play. You pay a subscription to play it, players vote on whether features should be added to the game, and if a feature doesn't get 70% approval, it doesn't get added. This ensures some greedy decisions are not available for the parent company to make without serious consequences.
gaunt marten
Nowadays RS3 and OSRS are developed simultaneously and have evolved the same world in different directions
slim thorn
next up: WoW Classic
bitter stream
fair enough. On the cosmetic shop side of things, I don't know what I'd end up playing if I stopped playing games with MTX shops. I already discarded all the games with lootboxes, and that curtailed my options a lot, especially to play with friends.
gaunt marten
That's fair. I usually play indie co-op games with friends but you can't pick the games your friends play
bitter stream
yeahhh, I don't tend to enjoy the particular varieties of indie co-op my friends play so I only really get to join them for Titles like big ARPGs, various FPS games or an RTS or two rarely
I kinda got burned trying to keep up with the indie titles
because they'd play for a week
and then move to the next one
At least with the bigger games, they tend to stick to them long enough that I can get some time in.
slim thorn
yeah, actual co-op is almost never an option for me
gaunt marten
You may benefit from finding additional friends who play and enjoy the same things you do
random steppe
is the game any good? I've not heard much about it
No idea, it's not out and I don't trust gacha gamers taste on quality, but the gameplay looks exactly like Warframe except it's cute anime girls.
bitter stream
Aren't you just describing warframe? Cute anime girls are a thing in it now /despair.
random steppe
I love the slide into the bullet jump immediatly
It activates the warframe part of my brain, which is scaringly large
Takes way too much space
random steppe
Yeah as I told you, it's anime girls Warframe
Not 1 to 1, of course, but like, let's say they wear their inspiration on their sleeves
frozen gate
yeah i had that really funny epiphany asking the question and seeing the same jump/dash animation as is in warframe immediately upon clicking
slim thorn
to be fair, gacha games have a long history now of shamelessly copying a familiar gameplay loop and mostly just adding the gacha girls on top
which, for all the genre's problems, is not a bad strategy
random steppe
I mean I don't mind them copying warframe, there are worse games to copy and it seems like they are also not doing gacha so I can't really be too mad
bitter stream
You may benefit from finding additional friends who play and enjoy the same thin...
Correct. I just don't want to go through the whole finding --> screening --> hoping process. It takes a lot of time, and I don't know if I need more friends, or just need to adapt to the ones I have.
random steppe
They copied warframe so much they changed monetisation to mach it
slim thorn
it's like how licensed games got way better when they realized putting a Batman skin on a well-designed game is a superior strategy to trying to tie in to some specific movie release
slim thorn
I mean I don't mind them copying warframe, there are worse games to copy and it ...
oh right, it's gacha without the gacha
gaunt marten
They should make batman with boobs
slim thorn
I mean we have several of those 
random steppe
It's so funny, all those videos saying "this gacha games won't have banners for weapons or characters, AND will not have stamina and you will be able to play as much as you want"
gaunt marten
Needs to actually be Batman
frozen gate
i know kotobukiya does a lot of famous slasher killers but with boobs maybe they can do it
as anime figures but like
it's funny
random steppe
It's so funny, all those videos saying "this gacha games won't have banners for ...
It's just a normal game, why are you describging it like that?!?
frozen gate
It's so funny, all those videos saying "this gacha games won't have banners for ...
looking at xenoblade 2 and wondering why i have to wait 2 hours for some mission thing and roll blades like it's a gacha game
n that was a full price regular game
random steppe
You know they are cooked when the closest equivalent is if you ask Susan how the new boyfriend is going and she says "Going well, he doesn't even beat me"
What the fuck was happening with the previous boyfriend Susan? Something is not adding up here.
unreal idol
It sounds like alien corpo exec speak
gaunt marten
Susan doesn't do boyfriend a/b testing
unreal idol
is susan in the room with us right now?
bitter stream
"Hi I'm Susan, I'm currently testing for boyfriends, and you are in category a, I'll be testing you on kindness, friendship, honesty, loyalty, laughter, and generosity. Bonus category for not being a violent dickhead"
gaunt marten
This boyfriend's key performance indicators are very poor, especially for mean time between dates
random steppe
lol
Susan in my analogy is how Gacha gamers speak of this new game that was supposed to be gacha but apparently removed all of that shit.
gaunt marten
Churn analysis indicates brad is likely to dump Susan within ~68 hours
bitter stream
Instructions to Susan “Go get him! Dump him! Banish him! Get rid of himmmmm! Put the nose on him and remove himmmmmm! Come on he’s out front, break him!” (Referencing that Fighter Pilot training video)
random steppe
I am curious about what you were thinking though
unreal idol
My thought: Why do gacha games show off all these cool characters and cutscenes and look artisitcally GREAT but they're just wasted on peadatory practices???
My thought 2: Duh, that's what draws people in, then they've gottem
green fulcrum
Yeah, pretty much, unfortunately
random steppe
Well yeah, they do awesome stuff with the character to get you to buy it
It's just like, marketing, you are correct
unreal idol
I hate being correct
unreal idol
I can't speak too much; I spent $6.50 on Yugioh the other night
random steppe
To be fair though, sometimes they do get out some bangers.
The story is rarely worth it but I fuck with Gay Catboy Hamilton
Or gay pirate theater kid
green fulcrum
It's also the same reason why I refuse to play League of Legends, because while it isn't a Gacha and it has fantastic character designs and an awesome world, the game itself and the community it has are veeeeery toxic and addicting in a bad way, and it exploits that toxicity for all its worth by adding to it.
random steppe
IDK why it's always male characters where they do the best stuff for
Maybe they think they need more of an help
Given the fanbase will buy female characters no matter what
green fulcrum
Maybe they think they need more of an help
Trust me, most men do
random steppe
Like, I am not a huge fan of gacha, but I do follow whenever they put out new music shit.
green fulcrum
The music is pretty solid, yeah. Genshin Impact's soundtrack is phenomenal.
random steppe
I swear these people aren't real
If there was a sector of youtube that could be automated by AI very easly, is gacha youtubers
cerulean herald
Gacha without Gacha?
Some Garfield minus Garfield type shit
random steppe
This game sounds like a Trojan Horse to dismantle the gacha industry.
My guess is that if it's good it will hurt most major gacha games, most players are largely looking for the aesthetic rather than liking the actual gacha monetization and if a good chunk of them start getting their fix of that in DNA bypassing the price of admission which is having to deal with the horrible monetization, I feel it could actually hurt them quite a bit
Honestly crossing fingers for them to succeed
slim thorn
makes you wonder why they aren't playing all the "normal" games filled with anime girls
unreal idol
yeah like neptunia
river veldt
the horse girl game is big rn
random steppe
To be fair, there aren't many anime games where the point is to collect characters that offer the open world typical of most modern gacha games
river veldt
that's gacha isn't it ?
gaunt marten
Yrah
unreal idol
speaking of gacha
i have 900 gems on yugioh master duel, so i'm gonna go make someone uninstall then contemplate buying packs
random steppe
Pokemon is specifically on that one platform
But you aren't wrong that it's kinda like that
unreal idol
Master Duel has a problem with fomo cosmetics
It's not egregious but it's a little annoying
But luckily there isn't any fomo on actual cards, barring promotional alt art
random steppe
Gacha games generally make of a science out of fomo
The ones I've seen don't even bother having much cosmetics, people are already maxed out getting actual characters
frozen gate
To be fair, there aren't many anime games where the point is to collect characte...
are gachas typically open world now? i thought that was like a new development with mihoyo taking a bunch of inspo from breath of the wild
random steppe
Yeah breath of the wild is an open world game.
What I've seen still follow that formula
frozen gate
Adding extra cleavage just in case it helps
they do like that a lot w these games dont they
cunning galleon
Yup, i noticed
random steppe
I've been looking at Wuthering Waves and the outfits are kind of outrageous
cunning galleon
I'm glad umamusume is basically, like.. Not allowed to do that unless the real owners say yes
cunning galleon
I've been looking at Wuthering Waves and the outfits are kind of outrageous
Played WuWa when it first came out, it's a good game, i don't know if that's the case now though
random steppe
It's a good game from what I gather, these games are usually pretty good, it's the monetisation that sucks
cunning galleon
If you can look past
I'm still F2P for the most part I've spent more on roblox than i do gacha games
visual hill
I remember seeing lots of mentions of Wuthering Waves when reading Lossless Scaling reviews last year
it's literally how I learned about that game
also, I've once heard the argument that Gran Turismo is a gacha. Think about it for a minute.
(especially GT7)
green fulcrum
also, I've once heard the argument that Gran Turismo is a gacha. Think about it ...
I mean...
random steppe
It's since the playstation 1 that I don't play a Grant Turismo
I definitely don't know enough about the mechanic to make a call on that
graceful bridge
wind stump
Smash players are apparently angry over a Melee mod being paywalled. 
random steppe
Listen, you can't actually put out interesting stuff when Silksong is about to release, that's cruel
visual hill
Smash players are apparently angry over a Melee mod being paywalled. <a:AquaSipR...
it's not new, we've had paywalled mods for years (Animelee DBZ edition, the replay takeover thingy, etc)
wind stump
Apparently, Smash players are fine with playing for Slippi (A modded Smash Melee client), but a Balatro themed G&W mod is making people go up in arms
visual hill
legality is debatable (like for any mods!), but Nintendo hasn't sent any C&Ds specifically to paid mods
wind stump
(tho TBF it seems like Slippi has optional donations, as opposed to the Balatro one being paywalled )
and like
Ehhh, I can see the argument, but like, I'm 90% sure Slippi is maintained by a team, vs. One Guy just making mods for fun, so i don't think it's like, the same thing. 
also people on The Bird Site complaining about paying for a mod when they pay for a Bird Site subscription, L M A O
visual hill
(tho TBF it seems like Slippi has *optional* donations, as opposed to the Balatr...
Slippi has a Patreon for ranked, joining it allows you to play ranked at all times instead of only 25% of days
free days have lower-skill players, but "lower-skill" is very relative, even Bronze 1 players are monsters by casual standards
wind stump
like yea i give money to a billion dollar corpo, but one guy spending a month making a mod and charging for it?
HERESY
visual hill
~~also people on The Bird Site complaining about paying for a mod when they pay ...
the expression "Bird Site" makes it sound like a lair of Falco mains
wind stump
(I'm not any better, hi FFXIV subciption)
wind stump
context is important in this case, it's one guy spending a whole aaa month figuring out how to do the thing, and even released documentation on how he did so to help others Do Similar Things.
-# also this is Smash, honestly they have as many braincells as Melee has functioning mechanics
plus there's no reason to like, pay for a month, get the mod and dip if you're really that bothered
cerulean herald
Apparently, Smash players are fine with playing for Slippi (A modded Smash Melee...
is it rly just G&W with balatro skins? or is there more to it
wind stump
fuck if i spent a whole month of my life doing something, I'd want to get paid too
gaunt marten
>paying for a mod
What's wrong with paying for a mod?
visual hill
paid skins aren't unheard of in Smash modding, some people even take commissions to create custom skins that are never released anywhere
unreal idol
What's wrong with paying for a mod?
Feels icky
wind stump
Like, I get the idea of mods being paid for can be a bit icky, but I think it's similar to comissioning art.
gaunt marten
In what way? Can you elaborate?
unreal idol
No, i can't
wind stump
... Though some years ago I was on the other side of the fence about "Patreon exclusive artists", so maybe i'n just dense
gaunt marten
Well, the way I see it is that a mod takes work to make, and good work should be rewarded, therefore it's fair to charge for it
wind stump
i dunno, is paying for Touhou fan-games bad?
unreal idol
Spending money also stresses me out so I try to avoid doing it when possible
wind stump
Fair.
gaunt marten
That's a separate problem from paid mods feeling uniquely icky when other paid things aren't
wind stump
I mean, I suppose an original game based on an existing IP is different from modifying an existing game...
wind stump
Like, even aside from the fact that it's paid, it's a purely cosmetic mod.
unreal idol
That's a separate problem from paid mods feeling uniquely icky when other paid t...
No it isn't
wind stump
it's like paying for a skin in a f2p game, but the skin is fan-made
eh, whateva, it's your money at the end of it all, vote with your wallet, but don't like, tell a small artist to off themselves because you don't want to pay $5-10 for their hard work when they're just trying to make ends meet, or something
gaunt marten
No it isn't
Yeah it is. You don't talk about how paying for videogames feels icky. Instead you say it feels bad to spend money
unreal idol
What the fuck i never said anything like that?
gaunt marten
If you say things but don't take the effort to explain what you actually imply, people will likely take the most reasonable reading
unreal idol
There is nothing reasonable about that
gaunt marten
Nothing reasonable about reading paying for a mod feels icky as I don't want to pay for a mod?
wind stump
Apologies, I didn't mean to upset anyone, I was just trying to give my opinion on what is a contentious topic.
slim thorn
while it is worth interrogating why certain kinds of monetization feel better or worse, or more or less normal, that backlog got overly aggressive about it
as long as PK isn't doing anything besides not buying a mod, there's no urgency to push him on that particular belief about mods
random steppe
It is kind of a complex topic
wind stump
what i meant to imply was "Hey, you do you."
Shouldn't have said the thing the Bird Turd Lords are doing and telling OP to jump off a bridge
slim thorn
personally, my first guess as to why it "feels icky" would be that software, as a medium (especially games and game-related software), has a lot more predatory monetization issues these days than e.g. images
wind stump
Kinda sent mixed singals about the intent there
slim thorn
but if the modder in question is open about why they're asking for money and transparent about the dev process and so on and so forth, I don't think that rises to an actual moral problem
random steppe
I do think it'd be kind of cool fanmade expansions of old games just came out sometimes, and it'd be perfectly fine to me if I had to pay some money to play them if the quality matched the price.
It does feel kind of bad though when people take things that used to be free and just put a price on them, without adding any value to them in the first place, or make future things they make suddently cost money when similar things they made in the past were made for free.
wind stump
Don't want to pay for a mod? Don't. That'sit. Didn't have to add that comment and I wasn#t trying ti imply if you don't want to buy mods you're inherently evil, apologies.
random steppe
The adding price onto existing things is worth mentioning, gets especially crossive to the modding scene because often some mods have depedencies from other mods
wind stump
yea, that makes sense, it's certainly a lot and i'm not particularly good at making my points
random steppe
So let's say I release this thing, a bunch of people make more things based on it, and suddently I make it cost money, and fuck everybody over in the process. which is something that happened with skyrim when paid mods started to pop up in that one.
slim thorn
yeah, compatibility, maintenance, coordinating on APIs and shared libraries, etc are all issues that don't apply to drawing images, so a lot of the incentives are different
probably the safest way to "monetize mods" is not paywall them but simply have a patreon, and state that how much the patreon makes has an effect on how much maintenance you'll be able to do (e.g. whether and how quickly mods X, Y, and Z will get updated when the base game has an update)
random steppe
On paper I am definitely not against paid mods, I would like if it was normalised for expansions, total conversions or big beefy content packs
That'd be pretty fair I think
slim thorn
I am unsure about that level, mostly because of the concern about repercussions from the IP owners
(with exceptions for clearly safe cases like Touhou fangames where the creator said in writing you can fully monetize whatever)
random steppe
I mean I am assuming stuff like Bethesda where the publisher is selling the content pack themselves
So it's not like you are gonna get the rug pulled from under you
slim thorn
oh, to me "mod" implied it was not the base game's devs creating the content
random steppe
Yeah, it's what I mean
Bethesda is trying to popularise paid mods that they sell through their launcher
WHich right now re pretty trash and not worth the price, but could maybe be interesting if they go in the right direction
slim thorn
I thought they were trying to sell mods made by the community rather than themselves
normally when the game devs also dev an expansion, we just call it an "expansion", not a "mod"
random steppe
Yes, they sell them through their store, but are made by 3rd parties
slim thorn
oh wait you're talking about the game owners also managing the mod store, not making th emods
this makes way more sense now
yeah you certainly can't get a centralized mod store for a game without that
random steppe
Well actually some are made by bethesda too, apparently, and were very bade, the Starfield ones
hasty patio
https://youtu.be/qHZLz1MW0aE?si=wnvk4fRji_Mf8OfS
And the patch notes for it: https://www.nomanssky.com/voyagers-update/
random steppe
Apparently the reward for a short story they released on it, was a sniper rifle that was bugged and couldn't ever be reloaded
And I think it was bugged for like, 6 months
slim thorn
for now I feel like Bethesda is a special case there, since they have some of the biggest games of all time still being kept alive by some of the biggest modding communities of all time
hushed onyx
To speak of another modding game, I’m thinking of ideas for a very large late game base/city in Starbound while waiting on my flights home
unreal idol
@gaunt marten sorry for getting mad earlier
gaunt marten
No worries, this sort of thing happens
gaunt marten
I'm beginning to think these "clan" advertisements are not legitimate https://i.imgur.com/ajMzvFt.png
(the 28 indicates it's been repeated 28 times since I logged in)
rotund forge
Can I pass along a DND song in these pony times? https://youtu.be/QsLN542nvGg?si=QyEb6DG5z6X5sF9-
This song is just pure joy, and I don't even know DnD terms or monsters
(Posting here cause DnD is a game)
bitter stream
that's a fun song
rotund forge
Loved the "they were no help at all" part
I love the reveal at the end
glad girder
cerulean herald
Isn't this an irl annual event somewhere
I forgot where
quiet swift
bitter stream
oh no
cunning galleon
planes
little badger
And so it begins 
frozen gate
what is on xbox that needs to be age verified lol
little badger
Everyone’s ages, due the new UK law would go more into it but breaks a rule I’m 29 I shouldn’t need to verify my age.
slow quest
eager bane
Everyone’s ages, due the new UK law would go more into it but breaks a rule I’m ...
Sounds like something a 7 year old would say 
I'll have you known Manechat is 13+
We're watching you 
graceful bridge
I'll have you known Manechat is 13+
We're watching you <:GlimHmm:112240480978234...
This has actually hit Discord users as well.
eager bane
Alternatively you can send over verification in form of your ID 
graceful bridge
On a completely different topic:
TIL That OBS is available on Steam.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1905180/OBS_Studio/
eager bane
<a:twiactually:613109204118667293>
that is a very child friendly gif from a kids show!!
little badger
And you are also using it 
little badger
gaunt marten
Everyone’s ages, due the new UK law would go more into it but breaks a rule I’m ...
How would they know you're 29 if you don't show them
wind stump
On a completely different topic:
TIL That OBS is available on Steam. <:rdwut:39...
tbf i think Steam has slowly tried to become a Windows competitor, with SteamOS and more lately the Steam Deck showing that it's trying to be more than "just" a storefront for software.
gaunt marten
Okay I admit, I'm actually 90 <:DerpySad:1272631841421262958>
Discord has banned for this joke. Don't make it
visual hill
On a completely different topic:
TIL That OBS is available on Steam. <:rdwut:39...
Blender and Godot are also on Steam
it's quite common for apps to be distributed there, it's convenient and you get some visibility
and no codesigning woes, since Steam handles things for you. In fact, it's way cheaper to go through Steam than pay for an EV codesigning certificate (unless you make a lot of money on sales, in which case the 30% cut would eventually exceed what you'd pay for an EV certificate + its renewal)
Substance is also on Steam (or was?), it was a popular way to get it before the Adobe buyout at least
visual hill
Cali you can play American truck simulator for free it’s on beta
I bought ATS years ago, played like 2 hours of it at most 😢
cunning galleon
Burning plane
little badger
I bought ATS years ago, played like 2 hours of it at most 😢
Ah
frozen gate
hey skul is cool
wind stump
wind stump
FOXDIE, for non MGS-fans (like me):
FOXDIE (originally rendered as FoxDie) was an engineered retrovirus developed by the DIA for the Pentagon. It was programmed to kill specific people by recognizing a person's DNA, causing cardiac arrest.
wind stump
Definitely should have been more mature about it on both ends
This Overcharged shit is even pettier tho
Like, it's one thing for you to disagree with how a mod should change the game... It's another to target people who criticise your work.
river veldt
how is Goat Sim 3 ? im interested because i really like the first one/it's expansions but am hesitant for some reason
bronze abyss
i love it despite it not being the type of game i would usually like
both the base game and the expansion
gaunt marten
If you wait a few years for Silksong you can probably double your game budget
bronze abyss
did you know that waiting for around 100 years it will infinitely increase your budget? thats because you cant play it while you're dead 
this game seems to have a suspcious amount of going into creatures mouths 
river veldt
If you wait a few years for Silksong you can probably double your game budget
but i want to play it when it comes out
bronze abyss
the main game has a big section of going into the mouth of a whale,and this time im inside a capybara
river veldt
like Bowser's Inside Story ?
bronze abyss
i have no clue havent looked at that one
river veldt
oh
visual hill
this game seems to have a suspcious amount of going into creatures mouths <:soft...
6th-gen console game bosses: Wait. That's illegal.
gaunt marten
Skeletal wyverns in the Asgarnian ice dungeon. One step further west and that one can almost kill me
toxic seal
I love cheese spots in RuneScape where you can fight powerful enemies with no danger
gaunt marten
I only need to kill five for my slayer task
bronze abyss
6th-gen console game bosses: *Wait. That's illegal.*
cant say i get it
visual hill
it was very common to fight bosses from the inside during that console generation 😛
bronze abyss
those damn furries tsk tsk
light gate
This is like my fifth time rewriting to condense a gaming experience I had since I got a question.
Question is related to Death Stranding (Director’s Cut).
Is it normal for a ‘BT’ to instantly kill you even though you were driving at Mach 7 and outpacing it?
rugged flax
gosh I love the folks at Blackbird. Everything is so hilariously in character and I love that they actually listen to the community. Can't remove the game UI to use hab screenshots as a Zoom background? Here, have some dev screenshots!
slim thorn
…I should use these
bronze abyss
gunfire reborn dlc possibly octover holy fuck
whole thorn
quiet swift
An interesting set of games free on prime today
And on epic. Wanted to try out make way, actually 😮
hasty patio
sacred grove
<:KEKW:646376905330655252>
It has to be so flattering to Team Cherry how games are trying to avoid Silksong's release window lol
hasty patio
It's what happens when a big release that everyone is looking forward to is finally coming down the pike. Best and easier to get out of the way so you're not crushed by being ignored.
quiet swift
See: GTA 6
random steppe
I mean especially in that case, moved it by 6 days to avoid the exact same day release is extremely fair
quiet swift
I recall two soulslike were within the same close timeframe as elden ring DLC and they moved around for it too
random steppe
And other metroidvania are moving it more because well, all fans of the genre will be doing one thing for probably up to a month
quiet swift
Or one did, the other just announced its existence on the same day as the ER dlc
river veldt
It's what happens when a big release that everyone is looking forward to is fina...
Horizon should take notes
cerulean herald
wind stump
I didn't want to reuse Caulken Bole
visual hill
Amy Steak - A Mistake
Welldun - Well Done (Like you know... steak.)
this reminds me I still haven't played Blood
Tchernobog will see this message and blame me for this 😢
graceful bridge
tl;dr Steam is just requiring you verify the credit card on your account, and that's enough for age verification.
random steppe
Hm, I have paypal connected rather than a credit card, let's hope they don't ever get on my ass about it
Not in the UK though so not a problem for now
visual hill
debit cards apparently still work right now
but it was resolved, as per the update in https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/08/steam-uk-users-will-now-need-a-credit-card-to-access-mature-content-due-to-the-online-safety-act/
Update 29/08/25 - 16:59 UTC: since there's reports of it still working even with a Debit Card and not just a Credit Card (they're different in the UK), I've asked Valve if they have any comments on this. Since in the UK, even a preteen can get a Debit Card.
Update #2 - 19:33 UTC - Valve press replied to GamingOnLinux to confirm allowing Debit Cards for verification was a bug, which has now been solved.
hopefully this isn't going to apply to France in the future, as most people actually have debit cards here rather than credit cards (myself included)
I wish they used account age like Nexus Mods or Newgrounds as an alternative (i.e. if your account is old enough, you are assumed to be 18+)
technically, it's not a flawless system as you could take over someone else's old account, but it's unlikely enough and seems to have pleased regulators so far
hushed onyx
I wish they used account age like Nexus Mods or Newgrounds as an alternative (i....
My Steam account is 18+ 👴
As in, the actual account is more than 18 years old.
bronze abyss
slim thorn
TIL the guy behind Stop Killing Games is the same guy who made the Freeman's Mind series
wind stump
gaunt marten
TIL the guy behind Stop Killing Games is the same guy who made the Freeman's Min...
Maybe we should start killing games
visual hill
TIL the guy behind Stop Killing Games is the same guy who made the Freeman's Min...
and Game Dungeon too, that's how I learned about it
static bluff
My buddy just got the Slay the Spire board game (cc @gaunt marten )
gaunt marten
Hell yeah
gaunt marten
It should have achievements
gaunt marten
Die to the wheel of fortune minigame
static bluff
And ascensions and then daily runs, lol. They really went all out
gaunt marten
That is amazing
static bluff
Yeah I was pretty impressed
random steppe
When is sts2 coming again?
static bluff
Chasing that Silksong high?
random steppe
Lol
It just reminded me that it was announced
But you aren't wrong that the two are in similar situations, well not for the lenght of the wait but critic darling smash hit indie game that caused a massive resurgence in a genre getting their highly anticipated sequel kind of way.
random steppe
Oh really? I wasn't keeping count, unrelated to that, how much do you think it'd cost to pay someone to put me in a medically induced coma for 5 days or so?
random steppe
Damn
green fulcrum
5 days away !!!!!!!!!
I'm still preparing a "Fell For It Again" award, juuuuuust in case this is all an elaborate Silkpost.
tawny jacinth
I love how the Xbox players on Helldivers 2 somehow have negative fear and will charge headfirst into the most dangerous part of the map
fresh bane
So lore accurate Helldivers then
fresh bane
been getting a video about this game recommended to me for months and now this shows up when I open bluesky
fine I'll see what the hell this game is about 
chilly mural
Very Parasite Eve-esque
gaunt marten
unreal idol
7.8 Too Much Water will live rent free in my head forever
wind stump
can't spell ignorant without IGN
slim thorn
I am out of the loop and might have to watch this now
wind stump
Basically an IGN review listed one of the flaws as "Too Much Water"
(Too many HMs is legit tho)
No I don't care if they made Fly redundant with the Mega Latis still too many HMs
gaunt marten
The video is good. It's well-edited, and explains the proportion of land to water in Hoenn
wind stump
oh, i'm already subscribed to them
gaunt marten
Yeah this is Adef who used to work with Games Done Quick
unreal idol
I gained a greater appreciation for Hoenn when I got older
Reminds me, I have an Emerald playthru i should return to sometime
wind stump
Fun fact: People have found full odds shinies twice in a row
These are the odds of that happening, btw
gaunt marten
These are the odds of that happening, btw
Assuming 480 million pokemon games sold, and players encounter 100 wild pokemon on average in each game, it likely happened 720 times
green fulcrum
https://youtu.be/OL3SqhJdDWo
He's getting there.
He's getting there. And it'll be glorious.
frozen gate
ah
green fulcrum
If you know you know
quiet swift
I wish my insect glaive was as fun as in World. But Sword and Shield is now my beloved in Wilds
