general gaming

[visual hill]

with this information, it's possible to have much more realistic reflections than before (typically, only a specular map was used, with no information on per-pixel roughness)

PBR is a deep rabbit hole, so if you have a few hours to kill, feel free to read https://google.github.io/filament/Filament.md.html 😛
(it's very well-written and has many diagrams to help understand things)

[fresh bane]

Oh god no

physics diagrams

my worst enemy

I don't remember where I got this piece of info from, but I remember being amazed when I found out that whenever games have some sort of sphere like object with a reflection like that, they almost always use a generic image for the reflection or a screenshot of the area that it cycles through when you move through the area a little bit

I think I remember it from learning about the reflection on the sniper scope in Counter Strike

Maybe it's just a Valve thing

so is there a reason why you wouldn't use PBR ever when making a game?

[slim thorn]

my impression was it's become standard now that specs and tools have improved enough anyone can do it

[fresh bane]

That's what I was thinking too but I wasn't sure

[slim thorn]

oh yeah there are tons of fun ways that older games faked mirrors and reflections when they couldn't afford to do real dynamic lighting/raycasting

one of my favorites is that room in Silent Hill 2 with the mirror filling almost the whole wall, where apparently they just copy-pasted the whole room and coded a 2nd player object to copy your movements lol

[visual hill]

cubemaps, yeah

[fresh bane]

that's probably the one I remember the most too from watching SH2 related videos back in 2017 ish, the fact that it's a separate NPC copying your movements somehow makes it creepier

[visual hill]

cubemaps were all the rage in the early 2000s, they were used both for reflections and skies (skyboxes)

they're still used today, except we use parallax correction to make box-shaped rooms have more accurate reflections

[slim thorn]

ok here's a stupid question

skyboxes are never actually boxes, right?

shouldn't it be skysphere? skyball? skyorb?

[visual hill]

Conker copies the player model when you are above water and puts a flipped version below yourself to act as a cheap reflection

[visual hill]

a skybox is a box! You just don't see it because it was taken with a 90-degree FOV and a 1:1 aspect ratio for each face, so there is very little distortion in practice

[slim thorn]

o

[visual hill]

modern games will prefer using dual paraboloid maps instead (which are images with a 2:1 aspect ratio that map to a sphere), these have more distortion at the top/bottom but are easier to wrangle your mind around. It's also only one file to distribute instead of 6 (although some specialized formats like DDS can pack a cubemap into a single file)

https://polyhaven.com/hdris

these are also called HDRIs (for "HDR images"...) and are used to provide lighting for 3D rendering in general, even offline rendering in say, Blender

most games don't make you look straight up or down towards the sky, so the distortion is hard to see

[visual hill]

some games do use different sky techniques, like sky domes that follow the player (the first Trackmania did this), or just a large sky dome that covers the entire world (later Trackmania games)

it's possible to fly the camera outside the sky dome, which makes the whole scene look rather eerie

on another note, I finished reinstalling Halo: MCC and am playing a bit of the CE campaign

it's a lot more enjoyable now that I got the sniper rifle

[fresh bane]

funnily enough, halo doesn't have a sky box, it has a sky ring

[slim thorn]

spacebox

[cerulean herald]

just beat Rusted Moss

-# goddamn it was tedious at times

[fresh bane]

So PatStaresAt (most people will probably know him as AngriestPat or just Pat from Two Best Friends Play) has also gotten into Umamusume, and he has a child now, and he's taken extreme care in not really letting his child get his brain irreparably rotted from exposure to any type of super high stimulus videos or games or anything, unfortunately he lowered his guard with the horsies and the child got to see a bit of the horses racing and doing their thing and now seems to want to see more of that everytime he's with Paige (Pat's wife) watching his stream, and it's possibly the most incredibly funny turn of events I can think of
https://bsky.app/profile/serageranium.bsky.social/post/3ltc42etot22x

Sera (@serageranium.bsky.social)

@patstaresat.bsky.social @peachsaliva.bsky.social Run fast horsey 🐎

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[quiet swift]

[fresh bane]

Just saw a clip of a streamer whipping himself yelling at the top of his lungs for Goldship to win the race (she ended up 2nd)
this horse racing thing is serious

[cerulean herald]

what is the gameplay like, I know its about horses racing, tho what do you as the player have to do?

[river veldt]

gacha shit idk

i watched NorthernLion play it and i'm gonna be honest i had zero idea what was happening lmao

[fresh bane]

It's a mix of basically training a specific horse girl for a specific event, raising their stats and managing their day to day training with some other events in the middle that are more visual novel esque with different interactions between the horse girls, but the main ''meat'' of the gameplay that you're actually interacting with is that you're basically raising and preparing the horse girl for that specific race event, and there's also gacha involved of course

a lot of people that don't really vibe with the anime stuff will usually skip the win concerts and the interactions in between and just go straight for training and watching the race play out

[quiet swift]

Or you could go to the true horse racing game.
Japan World Cup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JYHVrOL3Kk

[fresh bane]

I've seen some people throw around other horse racing game recommendations especially those that are against the gacha aspect but honestly a lot of the draw about Umamusume is the fact that you get to hang out with your favourite horse girls too so that's definitely a big aspect of it, if you don't enjoy that then you basically don't enjoy a good 50% of the game already

[fresh bane]

also random and only tangentially gaming related but I think the actual real Liam Triforce just liked my Sunset Shimmer fanart and I don't know what to do with this information

[cerulean herald]

thats insane

[chilly mural]

that's awesome

[river veldt]

i didn't know Avatar and TMNT were going to be in the new Sonic racing game

[bitter stream]

yeah, so is Hatsune Miku

it's kinda wild

[fresh bane]

Heavy from TF2 was in All Star Racing Transformed

[river veldt]

holyyyy shit

[green fulcrum]

Not just Heavy, but Pyro and Spy too!

[bitter stream]

might as well post this I think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT0d-A24xK8

[river veldt]

this game has a crazy roster lol

[bitter stream]

yeah yeah, though, I hope it isn't really expensive haha

Idk if I can justify Mario Kart level prices

[river veldt]

$70 for standard and $90 for digital deluxe

[bitter stream]

oh no

Ah well, maybe on a sale in a few years

then again, even 40% off would still be too expensive

why the heck is it this much?

[fresh bane]

I think the only Sonic game I paid full price on release for was Shadow Gens

[bitter stream]

how was Shadow Generations?

[fresh bane]

Approximately this good

[bitter stream]

👍 that's good to know, thanks

[fresh bane]

For a real answer though I think it's legitimately some of the best modern Sonic level design and gameplay that there is and I'm gonna be so bummed if any subsequent Sonic games don't follow up on this level of quality

It made me interested enough on the game to want to S rank everything with my best possible times and made me stress out for like 2 hours because one of the final levels is so tight about the execution and shortcuts to get an S rank I was sweating at how hard I was trying so any game that gets me to do that I think is pretty good
#1032775170521313330 message

[cunning galleon]

... deep breaths, neo ... deep breaths

katyusha not by my side today

[dense crypt]

i want to play war thunder for the air battles, they're a lot of fun but i dont like how long it takes to get new planes

[cunning galleon]

pretty long

air rb is pretty boring

[wind stump]

my favourite Sonic character: Random human

[astral steeple]

🎂

Rocket league turns 10 years old today

[gaunt marten]

This is why you don't just have automatically updating prices.

[wind stump]

Why not?

[gaunt marten]

Because the text became wrong

They should also have made the text change dynamically

[hushed onyx]

I don’t know who that is

[slim thorn]

video essayist, mostly about Nintendo franchises

[cunning galleon]

[visual hill]

yeah, Spy had to be "censored" by removing his cigarette

but the animation was kept, so he will flip an invisible cigarette

[visual hill]

oh that reminds me, it's been 10 years today since I got the baccalaureate

[cunning galleon]

I audibly gasped at this

Congratulations my haru urara

[uneven epoch]

tehee, i love u emerald randomizer. time for some silly again

[static bluff]

I'm afraid it's actually peak

[cunning galleon]

I love umamusume but i need to learn how to properly use the styles and when to use them

[random steppe]

It's so funny that people cheer on it like they are actually betting on horse racing.

[cunning galleon]

I watched one of gold ship's 2015 race and cheered for him 😭

I don't like to gamble money but I'd legitimately go to a horse derby race just to watch

[fresh bane]

https://youtu.be/z5Ay_aOUcFw?si=ZNgJhyCYDdukE7yU

Good news, Stop Killing Games is working
Bad news, it's working too good, they're now pushing back against it lol

[static bluff]

[unreal idol]

I'm out of the loop, what is this?

[static bluff]

Stop Killing Games is a government petition.

[unreal idol]

Ahh. How many does that make now

[cerulean herald]

it is a petition, basically to prevent live service games from being completely shut down

#1032716748887179434 message

[unreal idol]

Good luck

[unreal idol]

That's a hard uphill battle

[cunning galleon]

I think they won too hard

[unreal idol]

Unfortunately online petitions have a history of doing nothing

[static bluff]

It is very difficult to weave this conversation into chat in this server without it turning extremely divisive and political very fast.

[unreal idol]

With the current political climate that doesn't surprise me

[quiet swift]

It's not an online petition like change.org that makes no guarantees of any action, this is something that is directly sent to the EU governing body (maybe not exactly governing body but some division of it), so they WILL take a look at this now that there's been enough signatures. Whether they THEN take any action remains to be seen

[unreal idol]

Ooohhh its EU

Thought it was US; it may actually have a chance

[cerulean herald]

SKG has been discussed quite a few times here before however

[static bluff]

Wild, huh?

[minor gorge]

They are more referring to the digressions from that specific topic.

[fresh bane]

Yeah I'm not sharing for the actual EU political talk just for the update on how things are going

[green fulcrum]

Yeah, EU petitions actually hold weight. Now that it's surpassed the 1 million signatures goal, it is basically forced in front of the politicians' faces so that they can have a serious discussion about it and possibly codify it into law.

[quiet swift]

[fresh bane]

Yeah, that's what differentiated SKG from any other random online petition from before, and it seems like it's working considering they're actually pushing back against SKG with some big name publishers being pretty against it and in the response Ross goes through in the video I shared a part he didn't quite mention is that in one part of the response they straight up just say that this passing would be bad because if games stop shutting down people are gonna be less inclined to buy new games, which is pretty wild to me

If it hurts it means it's working!

[green fulcrum]

In somewhat related news: https://tech4gamers.com/ubisoft-eula-destroy-all-copies-game-goes-offline/

Not sure why they have the clickbaity image there

[fresh bane]

I saw that but apparently it's a policy thing from 2023

So it's true but not exactly new new iirc

[green fulcrum]

Oh

[random steppe]

I feel like this highly depends on the game if that's a problem or not

Because arguably, if the copy of the game is literally rendered unplayable, if they are just saying "listen, we don't want this to be sold to someone who doesn't know that it's not playable anymore, and then they call our tech support en masse trying to figure out they were scammed"
Which I feel is a fair concern, but also, maybe a bit much, maybe just add that you can't sell it once the game is closed.

[gaunt marten]

If a copy of a game is literally rendered unplayable, you should be able to keep it for archival purposes

[random steppe]

I agree, which is why I said it's too heavy handed as a measure, but I understand the problem it's trying to solve if that's the rasoning behind it

[gaunt marten]

Yeah, the justification doesn't really matter here as much as the actual effect does

[random steppe]

This does sound like one of the measures that they are likely going to enforce only in the cases in which the game was used to scam someone.

But yeah

Bunch of bricked CDs going around I could see being a problem.
Mind you, a problem of their own creation by making online only games so I don't have a whole bunch of sympathy to spare in the first place.

[slim thorn]

sounds like this is one of those situations where we need way more context and details than we actually have to judge whether it's good or bad, and the clickbaity headline/embed/etc is clearly not providing that

[random steppe]

If it's in single player games it's also pretty shit

[slim thorn]

mm-hmm, exactly the kind of detail I mean

[random steppe]

Which is why I said it depends on which games this clause is.

[slim thorn]

e.g. if this is just their boilerplate EULA legalese that they don't want to rewrite for every single game, much less risk having to update if they add/remove online features in later updates, then maybe that's harmless

[random steppe]

I'm also pretty sure this isn't enforceable in like, most countries

[slim thorn]

tbc I'm not going to click the article since the embed alone convinces me it will not attempt to answer most of these important questions to make it possible to reach a conclusion about whether this is actual news or just the clickbait it appears to be

if a source I trusted was talking about this then I'd be happy to learn the details

[random steppe]

Okay that I buy a license to the game so I don't have right to mantain access to the servers, but you bet that Ubisoft can't force me to destroy my property, which is the goddamn game disk

[fresh bane]

here's the actual line they added for the EULA btw

hold on, a little bigger

It's mostly in case you break the user agreement thing, but it does say that it also applies if they ever stop offering or supporting the product too

[random steppe]

No way this is enforceable I would bet

[slim thorn]

it does seem like a strange sentence, but I'd need a lawyer's opinion on what the practical effect of this is, whether it's enforceable anywhere, or if it's one of those things where the legalese sounds like X to any layperson but actually means Y to a lawyer

like, obviously this doesn't work if they have no way of telling me about the "termination", which they won't for a single player game played offline

[gaunt marten]

"At any time we like we can turn our servers off, brick your console, and send a guy to your house to kick you in the stomach"

[random steppe]

Like, let's say I play Siege (I don't, I don't hate myself quite enough) and I get Banned for whatever reason.
Sure they can ban me but like, you bet I'm selling that disk as used at that point, there is no way they can compel me to destroy it, it's real weird that they think they could.

[bitter stream]

Siege was fun, I used to play it a fair bit. also Ixrec, Castlevania Order of Ecclesia is up on GDQ atm if that's of i nterest

[slim thorn]

IIUC it's still unclear if "clickwrap" EULAs hold any legal weight to begin with, so I'm dubious about any strong claims about the practical impact of specific lines in them

[random steppe]

I mean it's a contract so it holds some weigh

As long as it doesn't infringe on any rights

Or other regulations

This makes me wonder if the main reason it's in there is to try to compel some ban evaders that find ways around a million bans

It's an interesting puzzle, trying to figure out what exactly they were trying to do with it

Like, the guy that uses vpn to connect to the server, has a new disk every week and rotate accounts to play the game, you can go "listen, by the eula you have to destroy every copy of the game you will ever own" and see if they can use it stop them that way

[gaunt marten]

A license agreement is a contract but contracts are not enforceable in full all that often. In order for it to be enforceable, it has to be clear, offer an exchange where both sides have something to give and take, be specific, it should cover the full exchange without any strings attached off-contract, the obligations must be possible, specific and defined, the terms are somewhat fair, and many other conditions

It happens a lot that a contract is enforced until someone argues that it shouldn't be, and persuades the court to see their point

[random steppe]

Oh yeah, and given how often the eula are just skipped and everyone involved is aware of that, it's probably it's the kind of contract that would be easiest to overturn.
But it has some weight, it's not completely meaningless, a company could hold you accountable for breach of contract if the reason they cite is something that it's obvious enough it'd be in there you would be reasonably aware of it even without reading it.

[slim thorn]

yeah, it's probably enough to at least reach judgements like "we did not violate the consumer's rights when we banned them for posting [REDACTED] in public chat"

[random steppe]

If they sneak in there something like "if the CEO of ubisoft needs a kidney you agree to be the donor" it's probably something that it wouldn't hold up in court.

[quartz pawn]

Happy 25th anniversary to FF9!

https://youtu.be/uVmCQ4c68cY?si=OfPx9CuJFqD_b2l5

[green fulcrum]

Here's to another 25 years of this masterpiece. 🥂

Now would be an excellent time to announce a remake, Square Enix...

[fresh bane]

...but have it be an actual remake this time please

[green fulcrum]

And not ARPG, I don't like ARPGs. They're just action games with more steps. Give me my turn-based JRPG FF9 remake, please and thank you.

[slim thorn]

one of these days we're going to have to fill out the rest of the alphabet like BRPG, DRPG, ERPG...

[bitter stream]

Dwarf RPG. Bee Rocket Proppeled Grenade(it explodes into bees)

RRPG: Roguelike RPG

Did FF9 have a fun turn based combat system?

[fresh bane]

I know there's a very popular mod to make FF9 strictly turn based because it was doing the whole active time battle thing where it's turn based but on real time

[slim thorn]

uh, maybe? I didn't have much trouble with 7 or 9, but I've never really found a turn-based combat system that I intrinsically liked in isolation, only as part of a larger experience where I'm not sure what else would've worked

yeah 7 was also ATB

[bitter stream]

fair enough

I enjoyed the Gamecube Lord of the Rings RPG, that was turn based, had some neat buff effects and such

called > The Lord of the Rings: The Third Age apparently

[arctic fern]

https://youtu.be/pkrTiNvxABc

[dense crypt]

Bug pizza, synthetic meat, mix and match soda, and the immense rarity of actual animal meat

It doesnt seem all that appetizing but also, it might not be that bad

[arctic fern]

If you live in an independent, hyper dense city, surrounded by desert and little fresh water, you wouldn't have a lot of choice

[dense crypt]

Sorry, shouldve thought of that

[arctic fern]

Why are you sorry?

You're allowed to not think of things

I just think the detail of this in games universe has just for food options is awesome

[dense crypt]

I want to try a Manticore

And one of those hot dogs

[arctic fern]

I wanna try an xxl burrito
It's big

[dense crypt]

also i find it fucked up and funny that cocaine(?) is just a fun little thing you can pick up at your local market

SWEET SWEET SWEET CLEAN SPEED

[arctic fern]

Mr whiteys? I'm pretty sure those are just candy
...I hope they are

[dense crypt]

in the animated commercials you see the dude snorting up a line of the stuff

[arctic fern]

Oh nooooooo

My last char hates me then

[quartz pawn]

Ooh yes! The Third Age was an awesome game!

[bitter stream]

yooo! You played it too?

that's so cool

I'd be tempted to emulate it but like... I dont' know how to do so safely haha

I really don't want to accidentally download a virus

[rotund forge]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ba3_M8d7KCw

[visual hill]

Anachronox works like that too

[visual hill]

FRPG is already either French RPG or furry RPG 😛

[quiet swift]

JeRPG, or Final Francetasy

[quartz pawn]

Try to get a Wii. Softmodding it is easy and GameCube works amazingly on it

[bitter stream]

ah ok! thanks for the heads up

[astral steeple]

Can it be midnight est already lol

Peak is almost playable finally

[river veldt]

vinny is playing the horse game

[gaunt marten]

Yeah, the game is basically turn-based under the hood unless you exploit ATB Wait. Some bosses are even guaranteed to act once for each action you get

[river veldt]

wait i didn't know the horse girls were based off real horseys

[cunning galleon]

Almost all are

My favorite horse is gold ship

[river veldt]

i like vodka i think

she's a very beautiful horsey

[cunning galleon]

I like all of them ngl

Look at her

And him

[river veldt]

omgggg the anime girl Vodka has the real Vodka's blaze on her hair

that's a quality horse

[cunning galleon]

All of them like have those features in their hair

[river veldt]

i love that

[cunning galleon]

Special week has that white spot on her hair as is irl

[fresh bane]

I think it's funny that that specific detail is one of the first things pretty much everyone learns about the game

it was made by some real horse racing addicts

[cunning galleon]

Yea the hair is the 2nd thing i notice, the first one is they're real horses

Some don't get the feature though

[quiet swift]

Yes, but it's clearly not the superior horse racing game

"Absolute insanity" doesn't even begin to describe these races

[cunning galleon]

Excuse me what is this

[gaunt marten]

I don't know. What am I looking at?

[chilly mural]

hornse

[fresh bane]

hoens

https://tenor.com/view/tokai-teio-umamusume-silly-stare-ominous-gif-10630741857622335672

[toxic seal]

Tokai Teio you fuckin dork

[fresh bane]

I've hired this horse to stare at you

[cerulean herald]

how many hors girls are in the game

[toxic seal]

At least 1

[plain harbor]

Teio's energy was just great in her season of Umamusume. She was getting up there in the first season, too, but Golshi took the top spot for me there. Related, I dunno if I'll download the game on my phone. I tend to not pay attention then lose interest after a short while with gacha stuff.

[toxic seal]

People are ready to go to war for these horses

Also something about Bakushin

BAKUSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN

[cunning galleon]

I will go to war for my horse girls

My special week absolutely gapped everyone in her debut

.... In 9th place

[toxic seal]

The game will not be one I will be picking up. It is right up my alley with the cute horse girls but the gacha and other mechanics simply do not interest me in the "I want to play" capacity.

So I will watch vtubers lose their minds over horse girls instead

[cunning galleon]

I can't watch anything live 😔

[plain harbor]

I am, however, going to get the PC version of Stellar Blade and also Clair Obscur because it looks cool.

[cerulean herald]

what about the archived vods

[cunning galleon]

Yea i can

I mean the vtubers i want to watch i probably need someone else to translate a vod

[cunning galleon]

Ha ha ha ha ha!

They say I'd just win if i spam training speed on sakura o bakushin

[cunning galleon]

Ok that strategy actually works

Bakushins her way into ura semi finals

Out of 16 races she won 11, and in the other 5 she placed 2nd

I tried her at a daily race and she fucking smokes them so much that the distance between her (she's 1st) and 2nd place is just called Distance

[slim thorn]

And it goes way beyond their appearances, even quirky movements they do in the anime are usually based on stuff the actual horse would do

https://tenor.com/view/tokai-teio-uma-musume-gif-20202219

[cunning galleon]

So gold ship drop kicks because the real horse likes to kick everything

Watched one of his races and he did not want to go into one of the stalls

[slim thorn]

unironically I have read that exact factoid about Gold Ship

on top of the infamous stall entrance/exit fails

[cunning galleon]

Does she only do this in major goal wins

[cunning galleon]

Dubious 12 billion yen incident

[gaunt marten]

A factoid is something shaped like a fact that isn't

[cunning galleon]

Yea exactly, it's a factoid and i think its just accepted that the real reason why gold ship drop kicks you if she placed 1st is because of the temper tantrums the real gold ship has

[slim thorn]

ok, tbc when I said that I was thinking of comments from people familiar with the real horse races talking about irl Golshi, as part of other posts that made it clear they were directly familiar and not just copy-pasting stuff from elsewhere

[young creek]

the burning crusade

[visual hill]

only Wii models made before 2011 support GameCube backcompat

@bitter stream ^

[quartz pawn]

yeah, just gotta make sure they're the Wiis with the gamecube controller ports.

[chilly mural]

I did not know they stopped making Wiis with game cube controller ports

[visual hill]

they stopped including some GameCube hardware that allowed for GameCube compatibility

not just controller ports IIRC

(backcompat on the Wii is not emulation)

the Wii is a GameCube Pro 🙂

[quartz pawn]

Lower production costs because wii was an amazing seller.

[wind stump]

PoV: Kazuya showing off his babysitting skills

[fresh bane]

Yep that's the one my nephew got, the family edition, slimmer and goes horizontally, but no GameCube ports or compatibility

The wii mini has even less, it's just a square that you put wii discs in, no wifi at all and no sd card slot either, and no compontent video compatibility either

Pretty tempted to swap out his family edition for an og wii model one of these days, the wii is cool but the GameCube has so many goodies, having a console to do both is basically a goldmine for a kid

And modding a wii isn't exactly hard anyway

[visual hill]

the Wii is the definitive way to play GameCube on original hardware, it's what nearly all Melee players (including tournaments) use at this point since it's easier to mod

and you get fewer framerate drops thanks to the faster hardware. Some 60 FPS mods become possible like Mario Sunshine

[rotund forge]

POV: Don Tigre vs the Turtle Child

[fresh bane]

Fortunately people here sell their used wiis with all the little knick knacks and everything for pretty cheap, definitely much cheaper than what I got the 2DS I gifted my nephew for
Only problem is a lot of people sell their consoles already modded, which would be a good thing, except I kinda would like to do all that stuff myself, I already know how the process goes for modding a wii or a 3ds but I never really looked at how to undo it

of course I could always just buy an already modded one and just delete the games I don't want and put the ones I want in there too but I always worry about the software being outdated or something

[fresh bane]

https://youtu.be/EwHwqlLAd1Y?si=kO37Mcmm-kDX_3PQ

https://youtu.be/VCyXJOJCuhA?si=i7SyR3NI6ZwRdN37

Fatal Fury has been saved

[slim thorn]

nice, I'm finally gonna learn wtf actually happens in these games

[green fulcrum]

@unreal idol Thoughts?

[unreal idol]

4 hours

Oh I am listening to this at work tomorrow

[plain harbor]

More hackers in Galactic Assault in Battlefront II. Ugh.

[quiet swift]

https://streamable.com/12lckl man, that looks so detailed

Like, at very first glance almost realistic

[quiet swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ-GU9KBxJE&ab_channel=IGN

[cunning galleon]

yea hide behidn there vro

[wind stump]

What an innovative genre!

[gaunt marten]

These moss giants have too many steel bars https://i.imgur.com/PbQcia2.png

Supposedly the chance is 6/128, or about 4.7%

[wind stump]

I Wanna Be The Maid

[river veldt]

so

im interested in Expedition 33 but i need to know, is it turn based ?

[toxic seal]

Yes

[river veldt]

damn

[toxic seal]

I was very incorrectly soured on it being turn based as well but I ended up not caring and even enjoying the turn based combat

I have no idea why I recoil at turn based combat for every other game but in Pokémon I'm just like "oh yeah cool no prob"

[river veldt]

don't worry i'm the same exact way lmao

[gaunt marten]

Final fantasy 7 is secretly turn based under the hood

[toxic seal]

E33 and Dragon Quest XI are the only non-Pokémon turn based combat games I've played in recent memory

[cunning galleon]

that's the spirit

[cerulean herald]

its turn based, but you can also parry/dodge the attacks that the enemies throw at you

[cunning galleon]

Her other stats may be horrible but what matters is bakushin

[river veldt]

oh so like Mario & Luigi ????

[toxic seal]

Just poured everything into speed lol

[cunning galleon]

Yea like only speed for sakura bakushin o

And she just can't stop winning

She only lost once, and she was 2nd place because i didn't make her front

[toxic seal]

With that much speed seems like she just can't stop period

Race ends and she just keeps going

[cunning galleon]

I do want to get her to SS+ on speed

Like... Just pure speed

No horse girl just Bakushin and Speed left

[cerulean herald]

yep, theres QTE for that

[cunning galleon]

Absolute bakushin

Almost thought the little one was gonna smoke me

Was too close for comfort

[slim thorn]

see, I have consistency and integrity (because I also don't like Pokemon )

[static bluff]

E33 proves that turn based combat can be really engaging. So much so that Square Enix themselves are questioning if they should return to it.

[slim thorn]

admittedly, Fire Emblem works for a lot better for me than what people typically have in mind with "turn-based combat"

and when I watched Persona 5 I was surprised at how, even to me, it was obviously a way more engaging system than the old FFs I formed my mental stereotype from

[hushed onyx]

Meanwhile, I don’t know why people would be bothered by turn-based systems.

[fickle garnet]

Same tbh

[slim thorn]

"bothered" might be overstating it

for me "typical turned-based J/CRPG combat" is just not interesting; it was something I did to get to the end of FF7 and 9 but it has no intrinsic appeal

occasionally it's a frustrating obstacle but usually it just bored me

[fickle garnet]

https://bsky.app/profile/rtgame.bsky.social/post/3ltjqkevt7k2v

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[wind stump]

G U N

[slim thorn]

I wasn't even trying for that

[wind stump]

Are you playing on Heroic or Legendary?

[visual hill]

I didn't get to the beach level yet

(the one you see all the time in retrospective videos)

[fickle garnet]

I finished act 1 of Ultrakill. Ngl I kinda forgot I had it

[bitter stream]

how was it?

[river veldt]

got Bayonetta 1 and 2

[slim thorn]

heroic co-op

[fickle garnet]

Really good

[arctic fern]

I'm playing as the distraction level difficulty

[astral steeple]

Peak

[toxic seal]

Subnautica 2's early access has been delayed to 2026, seemingly to avoid paying out $250M in bonuses to the dev teams they were about to earn in mere days for meeting other targets

Fuck Krafton

[quiet swift]

Yep, turn based. But as others have said: you can either dodge enemy hits (for just damage avoidance), or (with the timing shown by a 'perfect dodge' parry them. If you parry, that helps with your attack resource, and if you parry all the hits of the enemy (which can be quite a few), you will counter them for MASSIVE CRAB DAMAGE

[robust latch]

That's Soo screwed up

[quiet swift]

And the sound and visual design for parrying feels so good

[toxic seal]

So Krafton made that $250M, it's now just not going to the people who made the other games

[quiet swift]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QAH57reZjis

[toxic seal]

Presumably it will be snapped up by execs who scooped up Unknown Worlds Studios to capitalize on their success. Getting paid to do literally nothing

[quiet swift]

The scourge of modern gaming industry

Cap: basically, get the game

[river veldt]

it's too late ! i got Bayonetta instead

[quiet swift]

[proud warren]

🧙‍♀️

[rugged flax]

oh right the steam sale ends at 10 am Pacific tomorrow morning
i should buy anything i still want before it ends

[quiet swift]

Buy ALL the things!

[proud warren]

I don't get payed until the following day

[rugged flax]

y'all have poisoned my discovery queue
the horse girl game is in there

[proud warren]

good thing my queue hasn't been sabotaged yet

... I don't think

lemme check actually

[rugged flax]

i ain't ever installing it though
because Ring 0 AC is never touching my computer

[proud warren]

nope, still clean

[light gate]

Also got that horse game all over Twitch, YT, and social media. Decided to download it on my phone, and I already forgot what the tutorial told me to do. Probably gonna delete.

There are so many menus, and I have no idea what these characters are or why I should care. Also apparently the game came out four years ago and it just got translated.

So its a "new" game.

[river veldt]

but the cute horse girls

[light gate]

Its just anime.

They all look the same to me.

Discord react emoji ui moment.

[green fulcrum]

siiiiiighs

[quiet swift]

And the ousted leads say that it's pretty much ready for early access but it's now being delayed...

[wind stump]

Fun horse fact:
Male horses in Ume have decorations on their left ear, while female ones have a decoration on their right ear.

[cunning galleon]

this is not always the case but most of the time it is

male horses as in their counterparts irl*

[wind stump]

yes

[cunning galleon]

umamusume fact:
some people may be confused of why special week looks up to silence suzuka , but..

in a tenno sho autumn race, suzuka got injured and was euthanised

the same jockey raced in the same race but with special week and won

in the end, he said that he felt like silent suzuka was with him

and gave them a boost

and thats why in the anime they are yuri

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-special-week-silence-suzuka-gif-2734702928656942225

[wind stump]

average gacha player:

[wind stump]

[wind stump]

SUCC

[gaunt marten]

Doing mining math https://i.imgur.com/IFquKZk.png

The rune pickaxe I have gives me three ticks per attempt, and my skill gives me 23.05% chance to mine a coal every attempt. This gives me a rough expected time of two hours per thousand coal rocks

If I get so unlucky that I'm in the 99.9% worse case scenario, the time jumps to thirteen hours for a thousand rocks

The fact that there are only four rocks and the respawn time of each is 30 seconds, this caps me to an effective time of 7.5 seconds per rock unless I hop worlds. If I don't want to switch servers repeatedly, this method stops being viable at around ~65 mining

[little badger]

@green fulcrum

[green fulcrum]

Aw dang...RIP. I heard about this via Pokemon channels, but I didn't know he also voiced Vector.

[little badger]

I just heard about it

But yeah he voiced vector

[fickle garnet]

This game looks insane

Genuinely the most realistic looking game I've seen

[fresh bane]

Fun fact, if you look up to the night sky || Kojima's face will show up in one of the constellations ||

[astral steeple]

https://gamerant.com/ea-games-shutting-down-october-2025-need-for-speed-rivals-nfs/

Jeez another EA game's servers shutting down

[wind stump]

was it too hard to put the name of the game in the title?

[fickle garnet]

I hate when articles do that

[toxic seal]

But then how would you click?

[green fulcrum]

You know, I just realized something: despite its courses being very wide and often very open and large, Mario Kart World doesn't have the 200cc option, even though it would fit perfectly. That feels like a missed opportunity.

[arctic fern]

maybe that can be patched in later?

[wind stump]

I read the URL and that's all I needed to know.

[toxic seal]

You are 7 million steps ahead of most internet users

[wind stump]

No click today, biatch!~

[toxic seal]

Who would begin with the question: "What's a URL?"

[wind stump]

By all means, continue to heap praise upon me

[toxic seal]

Anime men and women would like you

[little badger]

us: we have plenty of storage

Bungie : hold my engram

[fickle garnet]

[quiet swift]

[little badger]

That’s how much storage the game will be when fully installed

[toxic seal]

The plot thickens, but now stuff is getting lost in hearsay and dubious links to "proof" that Krafton or the ousted Unknown Worlds leaders are at fault

[green fulcrum]

If Krafton is telling the truth here, it is extremely scummy that the three executives took 90% of the $250 million for themselves. But that's only if they're telling the truth, which we have no reason to believe at this time. It's all "he said, she said" at the moment.

Until hard, undeniable proof comes out that one or both parties are at fault, the best thing that can be done is to simply keep boycotting the game, or at least the studio.

[smoky sonnet]

when the pre-load is downloaded

[toxic seal]

Yeah I will not be touching this game now, a hard fall from my eariler opinion of "hop in early access the second it's available to support the devs"

[smoky sonnet]

the current game is 150gb, and i can only assume the reason everything is double is because it redownloads the whole game on account of major system changes

so there's both the old version, and then an encrypted new version waiting for servers to say its time to install

[quiet swift]

https://www.reddit.com/r/subnautica/comments/1lvyc7f/do_not_buy_subnautica_2/ that seems to be a popular sentiment

(though that post is one sided without mention of the post that you mentioned, i think)

[arctic fern]

that doesnt have the new info yeah

godamn what a shitshow

[toxic seal]

So Krafton admits that there were $250M in bonuses to be paid but they claim that 90% of it was earmarked for the ousted UW leads with the expectation that the money would be incentive to continue great leadership, but they claim that they kinda fucked off with the money and decided to focus on other things... which contradicts what one of the leads said, that as far as they know their release was sudden and with little reasoning. Now, they didn't say anything about receiving any bit of the $250M but reasoning for that is only speculation.

[quiet swift]

it was a shitshow, obviously

[green fulcrum]

Please keep this, lol

[quiet swift]

[toxic seal]

Sounds super safe and real and cool

[minor gorge]

[rancid herald]

oh god

the film thing appears to be real?

<https://www.instagram.com/abyssal.films/ >
the actual film is apparently... a chrismas comedy called Nutmeg and Mistletoe with the poster being midjourney

unless this is an elaborate hoax (the guy's twitter seems to link to abyssal.co as well so...)

[visual hill]

do you also unlock Sonic if you do that?

[fickle garnet]

Oh my god Death Stranding 2 is officially the best game ever. ||I just delivered cargo to someone's birds😭||

This isn't story spoilers, just minor spoilers for a delivery

[toxic seal]

Gloves are off https://www.reddit.com/r/subnautica/comments/1lwsxco/lawsuit_a_community_update_from_charlie/

[minor gorge]

Very interesting times ahead.

[rancid herald]

I'm somewhat skeptical that they can throw together a lawsuit in what, 5 hours?

[green fulcrum]

They were probably working on it already and it just lined up with what Krafton said. Either way, if these three are actually suing Krafton while declaring that they did not, in fact, keep 90% of the $250 million for themselves and that they didn't see a penny of it, then it's effectively a defamation lawsuit, which is serious.

[rancid herald]

I don't think the 250 million was ever paid out at all. The claim, as I understand it, was that they were fired before the money would've been delivered (presumably on launch or EA launch of the game). The framing is that Krafton did it to avoid paying, Krafton's argument is that they were fired because they weren't actually doing their job and presumably the game wasn't in a state ready to go.

Yeah. From wikipedia:
The delay was announced months before the studio was eligible for a $250 million payment bonus, which would be received if the studio met revenue targets at the end of 2025.

So, basically, the story up until this point was that these three people were fired and the game delayed presumably so Krafton could avoid paying out this promised bonus. Which is why Krafton brings in the 90% number (ie the studio would get 250 million but 225 would've been to these three guys).

[gaunt marten]

Note to self: Do not visit the trade server in runescape https://i.imgur.com/ISX3C8B.png

In the small window you can see people proselyting, advertising in-game gambling (a scam where they take your money eventually), someone trying to trade in their own language, someone failing to use chat commands, someone begging

Maybe they should hire me to write proper chat safeguards

[wind stump]

Reminds me of FFXIV yell chat

apparently shout and yell are different
not that i would know, 2k+ hours into the game

[gaunt marten]

Runescape doesn't even have an all chat

This is all within this region https://i.imgur.com/MphqGLT.png

[wind stump]

Region as in the instanced area, right?

[gaunt marten]

No

More like a Minecraft chunk

People too far away are not loaded and cannot be interacted with except via private messages or clan messages

What you see is all there is

[wind stump]

Ahhhh, makes more sense

[gaunt marten]

Nearby world map. Black grid is the chunk https://i.imgur.com/ixwnmFo.png

Yellow big marker is me

[wind stump]

[robust latch]

wow that brings back some memories of high school (which would have been the last time i played.

[gaunt marten]

I just picked it up

Twenty days ago

[robust latch]

lol

over 20 years ago for me lol. almost the same value right

[gaunt marten]

Here are my skills and my targets https://i.imgur.com/IYar5vW.png

[visual hill]

Corporate Clash (Toontown private server) uses a chat filter where only a specific list of words are allowed, and it does a pretty decent job

if you use a word not in the list, it's replaced by an onomatopea corresponding to your toon's species, so it looks funny at times when people make typos

[gaunt marten]

I don't want that

I want to talk like a normal adult human being

[visual hill]

the list is rather extensive at this point, it's rare for me to run into issues unless I use obscure proper nouns, brand names, etc

[gaunt marten]

I'd still rather a solution with smarter filtering

[arctic fern]

https://youtu.be/3YZesrdYPjs pacifist% 2.0!

[gaunt marten]

Does that count harming people in cutscenes?

It says kill in the title so I figure the rules are a bit loose regarding interpretation

[slim thorn]

I assume not, challenge runs usually ignore cutscenes (unless you get to choose the cutscene)

[gaunt marten]

The idea is to skip the cutscenes and do the game without triggering them somehow

[arctic fern]

Nah gta is too restrictive for that

[slim thorn]

games with that level of freedom usually have few or no cutscenes anyway

[arctic fern]

The rules are essentially that the player cannot be in control when kills happen, or to try for melee, or use only the basic pistol

Gta has char switching, so a lot of strategies require you to swap to someone else and then the npc version makes the kill

[gaunt marten]

Makes sense

[arctic fern]

The 2.0 part is that there were 96 required kills in the original series, but 5 years of optimization, skill improvement and glitchfinding will get that number down, or shift some from shooting kills to melee kills

[wind stump]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tvOtC2A7_0k

[visual hill]

heh, it's like AsumSaus' shorts but for Ultimate 😛

this is very weird though, holding the C-stick for multiple frames having different behavior than just 1 frame

the C-stick normally is just a macro that's "A + flick left stick in the direction for 1 frame"

[wind stump]

no "Real Yakuza use a controller" prompt, Infinite Wealth gets a 0/10

Dat ain't my boi.
Where the funni haircut.

[slim thorn]

Infinite Wealth
Ichiban Kasuga
nice

(ichiban = #1, kasuga sounds like kasegu = to earn money/a living)

[wind stump]

It's symbooooliiiic~

Funny because in the last game he was shot, left for dead and homeless

Welp I've already bumped into someone, that's part of the Dragon Engine Tradition

jumps into a river to retrieve 50k yen for the guy who just tried to bribe and assault him
yeah that's the Ichiban I know!

Ah right, this is 2022.
I guess true to life, COVID happened in Yakuza too

[wind stump]

"Hey, I used to shoplift and sell stuff to a fence."
"Cool, I got a job for you!"
"What's that?"
"Shoplifting."

My best guess is some sort of White Hat type deal.

[visual hill]

Dogwalk is out! https://store.steampowered.com/app/3775050/DOGWALK/
This is a free game made by Blender Studio using Blender and Godot. I did some work on this game (finding performance optimizations that the team applied)

Steam

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[gaunt marten]

Nice work

[arctic fern]

https://www.eurogamer.net/subnautica-2-drama-escalates-ousted-developers-launch-legal-action-as-krafton-accuses-them-of-abandoning-project

[wind stump]

I was right!
Adachi (Not that one) has set up a security agency and he's hired the shoplifter to sniff out blind spots in security.

... I would hope the stolen goods are returned though... Maybe he can use them as a bargainning chip in negotiations, lmao

[slim thorn]

reminds me of that one comic book where the first page is Loki stabbing Thor in the back, with narrator Loki saying "I swear it's not what it looks like", then several pages later you learn why this stabbing actually is in Thor's best interests

[wind stump]

I'm a sucker for White Hat/using crimes for good

[slim thorn]

talks on penetration testing are always fun

[wind stump]

[cerulean herald]

So why was it in his best interest?

[slim thorn]

in that specific plotline, thor had been corrupted by something and it was one of those magical purifying blades which hurts only the bad stuff in you

[gaunt marten]

The chemo sword

[wind stump]

Ichiban gonna use his mod powers

Ooooh! This is a problem LAD had! A lack of movement meant that a lot of strategy was kinda down to RNG!

It seems the AI is a lot less movey as well, making positioning for like, damaging multiple foes in a line more feasable!

Hey, it's me!

[gaunt marten]

I have successfully killed one of the two OSRS free to play postgame bosses, and she dropped worthless junk https://i.imgur.com/QbsXjii.png

It's still twice the expected value of each kill so I guess I can't complain

Everyone out there suggests that magic is not a viable way of fighting the boss, but a recent changed added a 50% weakness to fire that makes magic actually the fastest

[wind stump]

I HEAR BAKA MITAI IN THE BACKGROUND

FEAR.

oh god it is the pufferfish that kills you if prepared wrong

[slim thorn]

I was going to post the kanji for fugu, but now I'm more amused by the fact that the kana -> kanji converter includes a fugu emoji option

[wind stump]

Funnily enough the game talks about how Japanese cuisine in particular has difficult kanji

Since both Ichiban and Saeko end up misreading the menu

[slim thorn]

to be fair fugu for 河豚 is a pretty BS kanji reading

[wind stump]

and the server is like "Yeah we're actually considering putting the pronunciations on the menus"

[slim thorn]

plus, "river pig"? I guess that's not wrong but I would've thought of, like, hippos first

[wind stump]

Guessing because like, pig = filth and filth leads to illness???

[slim thorn]

(the serious answer is almost certainly "history is weird and words just happen")

[wind stump]

(And the realistic answer is "Yakuza is silly and would include this linguistic nonsense for a gag.")

Side note: I like the Persona-esque options that raise your social stats based on your choice.

(They were probably in the previous game, but I only recall them being in the equivilant to Social Links)

-# Yakuza is slowly becoming Persona for old fucks like me

[hushed onyx]

Usually there’s some logic to them, whether that’s drawing analogies to other things or (relevantly here) choosing phonetically similar elements to a pre-existing term for writing about it.

(The rebus principle; this is actually thought to have been crucial for the transition from proto-writing to writing full stop)

[wind stump]

-# well aside from the fact Ichiban actually has a personality, unlike Persona protagonists

-# Not counting spinoffs or adaptations like the Persona 4 anime, as much as I love Yu in that

[slim thorn]

since we're still on it... https://gogen-yurai.jp/fugu/ is telling me they used to be called "fuku", and the two main theories for the "fuku" name are that it comes either from their sand-blowing habit (fuku = to blow), or from a funny-looking gourd called a fukube they allegedly resemble

[unreal idol]

Japanese is 3 languages in a trenchcoat

[wind stump]

-# and there's definitely a decent topic you could discuss about the Persona 4 anime being "unfaithful" with its more comedic and slapstick tone, but i think giving the characters (especially Yu) room to breathe made the experience so much better as a post-P4 companion piece. And the scene of Yu outside the hospital after <LATE P4 SPOILER REDACTED> gives a lot more weight to the scene given Yu is actually a fucking character in the anime and not just your puppet

[unreal idol]

Japanese, Chinese, and "Western"

[slim thorn]

my favorite "Japanese is a trenchcoat" moment was when I learned their word for "giraffe" is キリン kirin

[wind stump]

Persona 4 anime is a fucking treasure, btw

Like, I could maybe see someone denounce it because it takes a lot of libreties with the plot and the various Social Links, but that's kind of... What I like about it?

anyway this has been my random unneeded tangent/rant for the day, good night

[cunning galleon]

Adorable

[hushed onyx]

I mean, there are a lot of English names that are like this, such as “hippopotamus”

[slim thorn]

ofc, no one's claiming it's as much of a trenchcoat as English

no one can compete with English on that metric

[hushed onyx]

Persian actually is pretty similar on that front.

A lot of its vocabulary is actually just Arabic.

(Similar to English vis-a-vis French/Latin, and for similar reasons).

A pretty decent chunk of the rest is French and English.

For example a common word for “thanks” is just straight up merci.

[gaunt marten]

Maghreb-area and north African (except Egypt) Arabic tends to borrow a ton from French

[astral bolt]

Posting this only once since since it's new and niche: #1393352554724986954
All are welcome

[fresh bane]

I was gonna say

at what point do we just make an entire channel just for the horses

I mean, the cartoon horse girls

no, wait, the other cartoon horse girls

this is getting out of hand, now there's two of them

[visual hill]

Sunset is so shimmering she occludes Rarity

[astral steeple]

YES

I finally unlocked chocolate tony and gummy tony

[river veldt]

chocolate tony is cursed

[astral steeple]

lol

The galaxy tony, crystal tony, gold tony, and toon tony are also really sick

You can kinda see them in the first picture

[fickle garnet]

The King of Fighters XV is free with PlayStation plus, so I'm downloading that right now

[gaunt marten]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/377840/FINAL_FANTASY_IX/ 70% off

Steam

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[wind stump]

I can't believe they ripped off Final Fantasy XIV.

-# (Context: Dawntrail lifts a lot of elements from IX)

[gaunt marten]

IX is basically a love letter to all prior Final Fantasy games so

[wind stump]

Double dipping the self-love, lmao

I would say it's at least like... Twice as subtle as Endwalker at least so far.
-# though it's still pretty blatant

[green fulcrum]

Ah, no wonder why Denzy and Poppy love Dawntrail so much.

[wind stump]

[wind stump]

I... Genuinely am finding it hard to take the plotpoint of a vtuber cancelling Ichiban and co seriously.

[slim thorn]

are you supposed to be taking it seriously?

[wind stump]

I dunno! I genuinely feel bad for them!
They're losing work because some th0t decided to misinterpret their jobs as "crimes"!
Like yeah it looks bad but they're doing this with permission essentially!
One of them only just got a job after being discriminated for being ex-Yakuza and is like "Well, it was nice to dream for a bit."

Like damn, I can't imagine finally getting steady work and immediately having it taken away.

[gaunt marten]

Are they pentesting?

[wind stump]

Yes!

[gaunt marten]

Yeah so it doesn't matter what a vtuber says

[wind stump]

well unfortunately context is overrated, according to her they're straight up robbing and she's popular, so that's the narrative.

something something internet culture

[gaunt marten]

It doesn't matter what other people think too???

[slim thorn]

that does seem like a confused plot point; why would firms specifically looking for pentesters be taking this as a source if she clearly is unaware of the concept of pentesting

[wind stump]

It's explained more in story

[wind stump]

sigh.mp3

[wind stump]

lmao

[slim thorn]

one of the reasons I still watch anime with subs is that there's something inherently funny every time the translator decides a word like "cringe" is the optimal translation (and they're usually right)

[unreal idol]

localizing oji-san as unc

[slim thorn]

or the legendary "oya mesen" -> "dad mode"

[wind stump]

This entire chapter so far has been gold

Especially Aris/Arisu. "Socially unaware robot" trope my beloved~

-# tho i might be biased because she low-key reminds me of Shizuka

[slim thorn]

I also like the trope of robots who act more human than the humans (but that probably isn't an option in a gacha setting)

[wind stump]

hahaha
after fighting the maid club (roll with it) Aris freaks out at the mention of anything maid-related...

Which is extra funny, because I know the game dev club has maid alts, including Aris

(They had a boosted drop rate "Banner" when I started)

(And I ended up pulling Momoi (Pink Gamer) twice)

[wind stump]

Hahahha

[gaunt marten]

I have killed the other f2p boss https://i.imgur.com/yrq2H9S.png

[gaunt marten]

I have one final milestone I can think of

Be able to join a 750 total level world

[fickle garnet]

Normal Death Stranding stuff

[wind stump]

[fresh bane]

https://youtu.be/kKbFMdNeBzU?si=FooQdcQRReou-PU-

now we have not only one, but two long blond hair raggedy looking middle aged men in fighting games

[visual hill]

trying out Portal Prelude RTX... note that it didn't receive the RTX Remix 1.0 update, so you have to apply it yourself to fix graphical glitches that occur on the latest NVIDIA driver (and you get DLSS4 support this way too)

funny easter egg
@river veldt you might like this

[light gate]

There is also another easter egg.

🦡 🍄‍🟫 🐍

[visual hill]

there's the graphics card I sold... 👀

[rotund forge]

If I put all my cash and coins into the bank I can buy DK Bananza with 22 cent to spare

[gaunt marten]

This game is so goofy https://i.imgur.com/ieyqQsW.png

[river veldt]

i like the gnome

[wind stump]

day one of being in Hawaii
go to get taxi
get held at gunpoint
beat the shit out of con artist taxi driver
almost get arrested due to language barrier
get saved by the wheelchair-bound dude who you helped on the plane
find the place you're looking for
get blackout drunk
wake up on a beach, naked and robbed of everything
get arrested... again

What an oddly realistic depiction of America /s

[green fulcrum]

Nah, this is just your average Tourist Tuesday in Hawaii.

[wind stump]

also it's taking all my willpower to not constantly say "IS THIS A MFIN PERSONA REFERENCE" at every little similarity.
Revolve Bar? Persona 3 reference.
Chapter is called The Fool? Arcana!

... Look, it's not my fault RGG basically made Persona for adults

[wind stump]

puts on song on jukebox
it is still playing the next day
how is the barkeep not sick of Heartbeat, Heartbreak... okay, that answers itself, P4 music is peak

[hushed onyx]

The funny thing is that because of the number of Japanese tourists who travel to Hawai'i, not to mention the large Japanese-American population, Japanese is about the least likely non-English language to provide a language barrier there

(Just after Hawaiian, probably)

[quiet swift]

So there's more info to the Subnautica 2 drama. Apparently some internal documents (presentation slides) have leaked which support (but not necessarily prove) Krafton's narrative. Apparently some of the goals are missing, such as two biomes, a vehicle, a leviathan.
A reddit post looking at this is pointing out that in the time it took to make Subnautica 1, subnautica 2 seems to have at most 30% of what they have planned "done".
Krafton has confirmed these leaked documents are real, as well.
Though as a side note, they also are claiming that the leads are not focused on releasing the game or are essentially slacking off - specifically the one guy who posted about him going to sue Krafton, they say he's been focusing his time on directing an ai generated (supported?) christmas movie instead of focusing on the game

||https://bsky.app/profile/ethangach.bsky.social/post/3ltrlktjqzc24|| link to the slides in question - I don't think they're story spoilery but content spoilery, if that makes sense? So click at your own risk

[green fulcrum]

Didn't the devs say that while it wasn't yet ready for release, it was still ready for early access? Two missing biomes, a missing vehicle, and a missing leviathan aren't deal-breakers for that.

Yet Krafton said it was "nowhere near ready".

[quiet swift]

Yeah, that's why it "supports" and not "proves". From what I can tell, it's a matter of
a) the devs wanting to do the same thing as with Subnautica 1 Early Access and add as they go.
b) feature creep. Slide shows an absolute ton of stuff
c) Krafton expecting more of this stuff being done. Especially since the game is already apparently already 5 years into development

seems like a good armchair analysis

[hasty patio]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1035510/Ultimate_Zombie_Defense/ Free until the 17th

Steam

Ultimate Zombie Defense

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You and your friends are elite members of the milit…

Price

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[gaunt marten]

Not the first time it became free. It had low reviews the last time

[wind stump]

DISGUSTING.

[wind stump]

SUPA CRAZY DELIVERY

[river veldt]

oh Mewgenics got a release date

still a while away 😔

[wind stump]

I think I like this sidegig

[wind stump]

fuck i really need to find a CostCo

[blissful sand]

A friend of mine made a Tron game

[gaunt marten]

Cool!

Tell them to sell it

[gaunt marten]

Insanely dumb quest https://i.imgur.com/Rqprg1x.png

Plagued sheep escaped into the countryside. This is a matter of national security so use your own money to buy protective equipment, grab a cattleprod and prod four of the diseased sheep into the pen. The sheep don't move diagonally, and move a fixed amount of tiles per prod, so you have to plan out your prodding, but don't take too long because if you do they'll just wander back to where they were

And once you have one of each type, you fucking feed them poisoned food to kill them

Why couldn't I just kill them myself? I have a big fucking sword

Also, in the time it took for me to type this out, the bones of the sheep despawned so I have to prod again

And why couldn't I feed them poisoned food in the wild? Why do I have to herd them first?

Why are the sheep bones special items with a lower respawn timer than normal items?

I had to incinerate one of each type of bone, but why? There's more plagued sheep out there

This quest was made in 2002 by Tom W

You are my enemy, Tom

Worse, the quest is harder if you have a higher ping, because for some dumb reason the sheep are managed by the server despite the whole quest being something other players cannot affect

https://i.imgur.com/6GKT6zI.png

I should have incinerated the councilor who gave me the quest

[green fulcrum]

In-universe, probably so that the corpse doesn't attract other animals which could then catch the plague.

Out-of-universe, because "reasons".

[gaunt marten]

Just let me pick the corpse up and incinerate it

I have big old protective gloves

[river veldt]

Flitter have you seen the gnome yet

[gaunt marten]

Yes! I finished the gnome quest

The first one, at least

Where you retrieve the three protective orbs and bring them back to the gnome king

[river veldt]

i didn't know there was a gnome king

[gaunt marten]

That's just the tree gnome tribe

Gnomes are not available in free to play, unfortunately

[river veldt]

damn

ah the gnome king has 4 points on his hat which means he's the king

[green fulcrum]

Oh hey, I've seen this one. 🍷

[gaunt marten]

That one was fine despite being designed by Tom W

Details here https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Tree_Gnome_Village

[green fulcrum]

Speaking of which...tell me the truth Flitter, did you stick that final wine gem in the flooded cells simply because we were discussing it previously, or was that its actual place?

[gaunt marten]

Do you want the truth?

You have to be sure you want it

[green fulcrum]

...That was not the answer I was expecting, lol.

But I mean, we have it now, so I guess it doesn't really matter whether you tell me or not.

[gaunt marten]

I put it somewhere else, but when you reached that spot I actually forgot to describe it

[green fulcrum]

Whoops

[gaunt marten]

So I had to move it. The book doesn't have a spot for the third one

[green fulcrum]

Well then, glad we fell down that trapdoor.

[gaunt marten]

Oh you were always gonna fall in that, ever since you doubted the veracity of Stefan's accounts

[green fulcrum]

That or we're just too curious for our own good.

Also wait, does that mean he's down there with us?

[gaunt marten]

Well he's a skull on Granny's belt

[green fulcrum]

I hope he hasn't floated away, lol

[gaunt marten]

The water is not free-flowing but stale

[hushed onyx]

I was thinking “Homeworld backgrounds are pretty, I wish there was a game that allowed you to just look at them all the time without having to fight” and came up with a whole-ass game concept

A colony/factory game. Play as an AI sent to colonize a new star system starting from your seedship. Build logistics chains from scratch, then settlements ready to handle an influx of colonists from another star system. Enjoy beautiful space backgrounds. A chill and relaxing game.

[gaunt marten]

Stellaris

[random steppe]

Ixion kinda

Not on a colony but it's a space station sized colony ship

Also very not realxing, but it has the logistic chain thing

[hushed onyx]

Nah.

Too abstract.

More Dyson Sphere Program, but with a different endgame design.

[gaunt marten]

I'm mostly thinking of games that allow you to look at starry backgrounds without fighting

[visual hill]

Elite Dangerous/Star Citizen?

you can look at your money slowly flying away when playing those games

[gaunt marten]

With Star Citizen your money flies out really fast

[hushed onyx]

Elite Dangerous is very true, but I can’t play it

[tawny jacinth]

The Helldivers are voting for a new city name

[hushed onyx]

(No Windows machine)

[visual hill]

it reminds me of when I look at various simracing games, they all have egeregious DLC prices even on sale 😢

it's why I stick to Project Cars 2 singleplayer for now, I got it for free because someone on this server gifted it to me

it's delisted nowadays due to expired car licenses, so you can't buy it anymore

[hushed onyx]

I already own Elite Dangerous, I just can’t play it because I don’t have a computer that can run the game.

[obsidian salmon]

https://youtu.be/P7b6ymMQVsQ?si=WVR89d-LaRjMrPAK&t=146

Most insane dedede setup i've ever seen (2:26)

[little badger]

Black ops 7 will be revealed at gamescom @astral steeple

[light gate]

Didn’t Black Ops 6 come out last year?

I guess it didn’t sold enough.

[little badger]

It was the biggest launch in COD history but Hopfully 7 will be better

[light gate]

Big in what term?

Maybe I'm out of the loop but I really didn't see the game get talked that much out of just being on game pass.

[slim thorn]

I think CoD has saturated the market so fully, while also being so unlikely to change in any meaningful way, that everyone who isn't interested in playing it just has no reason to ever talk about it

[little badger]

Fastest selling I think

[light gate]

I mean I had some interest, not on launch day. I wanted some discounts.

[little badger]

Activision said they would tone down the MTX bundles but haven’t seen that slowing down

[light gate]

But now I don't want Black Ops 6 since the 7th interation is already on the way.

[little badger]

Most of the bundles would actually fit 7

[slim thorn]

right I meant people like me who aren't going to be playing any of the CoDs

[light gate]

Well, I mean I have a few CoD buddies and they didn't play the newest one... so maybe they also lost interest. I don't know, I guess we're all burned out from the triple a corp aspects.

I still see one of my friends hop on to play IW4X or Plutonium.

[little badger]

Not sure if you played outbreak deviant. But the next outbreak is coming to 7 as it was found in the files for 6.

[light gate]

What is outbreak? Is that zombies?

God I'm becoming old as heck.

[little badger]

Yeah from Cold War

The open world mode

[light gate]

Oh yeah... forgot about Cold War... that was a thing... everyone thought out it was a weird spinoff.

I mean it has been long since I've been interested in CoD after Advanced Warfare.

[little badger]

It was actually meant to be sledgehammers game. But treyarch took over because of a falling out with activision at the time.

[light gate]

Makes sense, Activision was out for more money.

[little badger]

And was made during Covid

[light gate]

Well that would do it.

[little badger]

Outbreak 2 is meant to be a tranzit remake but with fast travels. Round based will still be there, but not sure how many maps will be be there at launch

[light gate]

Well, not much to think about it now.

Just wait for BO7.

I hope the game is good.

[little badger]

Beta should be happening soon. But am actual alpha was found that players can get invited to before the real beta

[light gate]

I forget, is this MP only now? No more story?

Like after 3 I remember IV going BR-ish.

[little badger]

Will have a campaign. And for the first time since Black ops 3 it will be co-op!

[light gate]

Well I hope they don't screw that up.

[little badger]

It’s a BO2 sequel

[light gate]

That doesn't mean its gonna be good.

I'll just wait n see.

[little badger]

This is the image that someone got a while ago it got pushed early with an update

[wind stump]

Really takin' the Pokemon-like to the next level

[bronze abyss]

for any lethal company players,one of the biggest mods,wesleys moons,just got a MAJOR update that adds another game worth of content almost

like yall have to play that mod,along side wesleys interiors

for those not familiar,it adds tons of new moons,it has lore,a story progression along with unlocking new moons along the way,obv new interiors,and even several endings

[gaunt marten]

Doing the Murder Mystery quest. https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Murder_Mystery

This one's unique in that the solution is random per-player

[river veldt]

that's really cool

[gaunt marten]

https://i.imgur.com/RoTKwhA.png

https://i.imgur.com/LEaOt6L.png
https://i.imgur.com/AmVwmJP.png
https://i.imgur.com/Ww1p13W.png

It was Elizabeth with the poison

[river veldt]

in the ballroom ?

[gaunt marten]

No it was in a small side room

The Sinclair manor doesn't even have a ballroom

First floor

[river veldt]

i was doing a silly Clue reference sorry

[gaunt marten]

I did recognize it

It was in the room on the left with the dagger and pot

[river veldt]

i wish i had a house like that

[gaunt marten]

Lord Sinclair had it and it killed him

[river veldt]

yeah but i don't have any enemies who would want to mysteriously murder me

[wind stump]

LMAO

From Nugget to Omelette to Phoenix

[gaunt marten]

This thing in the gnome king's court is just called "Cute Creature" https://i.imgur.com/3C3zhJL.png

[gaunt marten]

This person has several bots running this pair of messages every so often https://i.imgur.com/eBoWv0K.png

"organic" advertising

[river veldt]

that is a cute creature

reminds me of Baba

[gaunt marten]

Oh, looking into it, apparently it's some sort of bot that tries to lure you into downloading a keylogger

[wind stump]

https://youtu.be/uFvMkCAzGuY

new Max0r brainrot

[visual hill]

they're playing Runescam instead of Runescape

[wind stump]

[quiet swift]

"The great sword is the tremendously damaging, tremendously high commitment weapon that spends about half its time doing nothing and the other half delivering monsters the approximate mass of the observable universe."

[hasty patio]

https://store.steampowered.com/category/automation

[robust latch]

ooo more games to buy that il never get around to playing

[visual hill]

found the easter egg in Talos too (related to #manechat message) 😛

[green fulcrum]

Don't worry, automation games are designed to play themselves eventually, lol.

[fickle garnet]

I'm not sure I can continue to play Silent Hill 2. Its so creepy that I don't feel right while playing it, I actually felt sick

Im only like an hour into the game too

I think im going to refund it ngl, I might watch a playthrough instead

This has never happened to me with a game before. Its a really good game, its just too much

[bronze abyss]

stylin on those bitches

favorite passtime is shitting on people in brawlhalla so bad that they disconnect

[tiny wigeon]

Good Katars players are scarier than good scythe players

Brawl is so fun until youre on a losing streak

[bronze abyss]

honestly mostly cuz scythe players generally lack the consistency

very very VERY small minority know how to play scythe properly and dont just fish for clips every moment and lose half their matches cuz of that

[tiny wigeon]

yeah true

or just spam

who's your best characters?

[bronze abyss]

or that, honestly a lot of times i avoid the game just cuz of that, i recah diamond on the season then im good just hop on experimental or ranked 2v2

[bronze abyss]

lucien, ember, lord vraxx, diana, nix, loki, priya

[tiny wigeon]

really? thats pretty cool

not a lot of lord vraxx players iirc haha

I partial to Thor, Yumiko, and Kaya

[bronze abyss]

hes of lesser priority honestly, TOP top chracters for me are lucien ember diana

ooh i dabled in some kaya as well, not much though cuz spear doesnt really fit my playstyle

[tiny wigeon]

all of their sigs are really solid

[bronze abyss]

ngl i barely ever even use sigs

[tiny wigeon]

Lucien's are so fast

Ember side/nsig tho

[bronze abyss]

which one?

[tiny wigeon]

the bird

[bronze abyss]

ah, bow nsig then

its solid but honestly not too hard to avoid with proper spacing

[tiny wigeon]

Im pretty solid with bow and orb

those are probably my best two weapons

[bronze abyss]

whats your rank?

[tiny wigeon]

never played ranked

despite having 200 hours lol

[bronze abyss]

ah, at that playtime its p normal

i may have dabled in ranked a lil bit (many seasons in a row diamond now)

[tiny wigeon]

I'd say im half decent, good enough to smoke anyone at a party

[tiny wigeon]

until this sucka shows up

[bronze abyss]

yeaaah at parties its a 1v3 to have a chance against me

[tiny wigeon]

alright, dont get ahead of yourself

ok wait

if theyre super noobs then probably

[bronze abyss]

nah nah, ive 1v3'd players with hours between 200-400

[tiny wigeon]

might have to 1v1 at some point

[bronze abyss]

region?

[tiny wigeon]

and you're playing calamity too, you've got the games

NAW

[bronze abyss]

mega yikes

EU

[tiny wigeon]

ouch

yeah that would just be a bummer fight

[bronze abyss]

tries to hit
everyone walks off stage
announcer GAME?

[tiny wigeon]

literally

we'd have to use future sight

how many hours do you have in Terraria/Tmod?

[bronze abyss]

well then id have the advantage cuz im in a further time zone

[bronze abyss]

approx 1.5-2k on terraria if all platforms combined, 335 on tmod

doing an infernum playthrough rn, just defeated golem

[tiny wigeon]

whoa thats crazy, literally almost the exact same for me

Me and my friend are doing masochist mode calamity

[bronze abyss]

whats masochist mode?

[tiny wigeon]

it's kind of butts

Its a mode of eternity from the Fargos soul mod

[bronze abyss]

ah, havent tried that one

[tiny wigeon]

not sure how it compares to infernum

[bronze abyss]

only really play calamity with addons, did 2 revengeance playthrough with ranger and melee, and rn ranger infernum

[tiny wigeon]

we always do mega-modpacks

ranger is prob my fav class

[bronze abyss]

other than calam its only like inf potions and recipe browser along side visual mods

EZ FAVE

like so far above everything else

[tiny wigeon]

ranger > mage > melee > summoner > rouge

[bronze abyss]

hmm id say like ranger>summoner>rogue>melee>mage

[tiny wigeon]

especially when you get the cool guns

whats with the mage hate

[bronze abyss]

i just dont like how inconsistent the weapons feel honestly

and i dont like having resource convenience/conservation use up accessory slots, i want pure numbers

[tiny wigeon]

Shredder, Voidragon, all the cool flamethowers, soma prime

i freaking love the flamethrowers

even if theyre just okay for most the game

[bronze abyss]

the best shit is seeing that 100000 dps when you pop adrenaline and are point blank

[tiny wigeon]

or when youre testing damage on a test dummy and your audio just becomes a cheese grater

[bronze abyss]

im always too lazy to craft a dummy

[tiny wigeon]

are you a eye of cuthulu test dummy, or a destroyer test dummy type of person?

who's your punching bag

also send a pic of your base

I will judge it

[bronze abyss]

whatever the current boss im on progression wise

[bronze abyss]

oooh boy youll have a field day with that

[tiny wigeon]

[tiny wigeon]

straight to jail

[tiny wigeon]

only valid part is all the trophies in a line

[bronze abyss]

(if you look, they arent even in the row of an average progression)

[bronze abyss]

how did you get ponies?

[tiny wigeon]

Current place of residence

[bronze abyss]

i only know 1 mount at end game calamity pony wise

[bronze abyss]

well you see the difference here is that i got those soviet brutalism genes in me if it works it works, no need for fancy shmancy stuff

[tiny wigeon]

i love ponies so freaking much

its a texture pack

for vanilla npcs

[bronze abyss]

ah, im only using a calamity based complete texture pack

[tiny wigeon]

Applejack would be proud, Rarity would cry

[bronze abyss]

rarity is my favorite

[tiny wigeon]

i read your messages in Aj's voice now

[bronze abyss]

she'll change her mind when i show her my photography skills

[tiny wigeon]

"darling, this simple won't do"

This painting is vanilla

its of Yogscast's mlp minecraft series lol

[bronze abyss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcuWKpyUGHo

the memories this pulled from the void that is my brain

why does he sound like adventure time finn

[tiny wigeon]

I hate that I know the lyrics

[bronze abyss]

🎶 i gaze off into the boundless skyline note block choir playing in the sunshine turn around pickup my sword and wield the blade that once forced evil mobs to yield 🎶

[tiny wigeon]

If this battle shall leave me slain, I know herobrine will call my name. Better to takeeee a stand, that was when I ruled the land

Also Viva la vida is one of my fav songs, so that one’s easy to remember

[bronze abyss]

better to taaaaake a stand that was when i ruled the land

[bronze abyss]

i honestly might prefer fallen kingdom

though i love both

[tiny wigeon]

It gets a nostalgia bonus

I used to go hard to “don’t mine at night”

Such silly times

[bronze abyss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQlsmfirpbA

this shit

[tiny wigeon]

Now I’m into ponies

[tiny wigeon]

So I guess I’m still silly

[bronze abyss]

this also has like unreasonably good animation quality

[tiny wigeon]

Where did Antvenom go

Sethbling too

I stopped watching hermitcraft after they kicked out Iskall

[bronze abyss]

idk anything about minecraft past 1.7.10-1.8 days

[tiny wigeon]

I’ve been on a Minecraft drought for a while

[tiny wigeon]

I still have played a few times

1.7.10 and 1.8.9

Absolute peak updates

[bronze abyss]

.7.10 is PEAK mod experience, it does not get better

[tiny wigeon]

I still can jitter click 13 cps because of 1.8 pvp

It comes in useful sometimes, like trying to shake sauce out of a jar or something

It’s also fun to jitter click a pen

Since it’s absurdly annoying

[bronze abyss]

i just do a finger ladder with a pen and hope i dont drop it and get told off at an exam

[dense crypt]

Anyone here play the game Wario Ware DIY? It might be one of my favorite DS games.

[wind stump]

[hushed onyx]

I had a similar question to Red’s, is anyone here familiar with Delta-V: Rings of Saturn?

[little badger]

Stream about the update will be on the 16TH

[orchid sundial]

so after spending a couple hours trying out xbox game pass, it's sort of eh? i'm not a fan nor a hater, i'm indifferent on it. like, it's great that it gives you the option to try out games at no extra cost, but the main gripe i have with it is how little all ages/family friendly games there are on it. i can't get into m rated games at all, and the t rated stuff is hit or miss for me. there are less than 150 everyone/everyone 10+ games on game pass. it makes me sad to be honest. perhaps i don't fit the demographic for the service. i can't really help it because i can't ever get into more mature stuff.

[fickle garnet]

Excite

[visual hill]

it's a good deal if you buy it and cancel it immediately after, so you don't pay for it when you don't actively use it. You'll keep it until the period you paid for ends

the 21th century's worst nemesis, subscriptions you don't use 🙂

[cunning galleon]

Makes me feel like a broke project car owner

I sold every part that i can sell to upgrade the engine

[wind stump]

"Let's show this guy you can't P2W Sujimon!"
me with my collection of DLC Sujimon:

[orchid sundial]

i canceled it already, don't worry

they should add more everyone/everyone 10+ games to it if they want me to pay for it

unfortunately, too many m rated games are being made those seem to be the ones that are always on game pass

[arctic fern]

Just because something is 18+ doesn't mean it's gonna be bad or to extreme
18+ is kinda tame in many cases

[orchid sundial]

ehhh i still would rather not play that stuff

[cunning galleon]

It could be 18+ purely because it has one or two scenes with blood

[slim thorn]

you can always ask us what the actual content in any specific game we've played is, if e.g. the ESRB website doesn't go into enough detail

tbh half the reason I like ESRB and similar rating systems is that, despite how inherently arbitrary any broad classification system like that has to be, it is extremely easy to go a step further and get a paragraph of text from them describing what content they considered relevant to a rating

[orchid sundial]

i suppose i could

[visual hill]

Test Drive Unlimited: Solar Crown is 18+ solely because of its simulated gambling minigames. This automatically gets you 18+ for PEGI

otherwise, it's just as time as say, Forza Horizon in terms of actual content

[eager bane]

-# meanwhile, FIFA ultimate team (or whatever it's called now) isn't

[visual hill]

it's like the Balatro situation last year, but TDU did not try to appeal it

[eager bane]

I wish TDU went down a better path...I'm still a little hopeful that they can turn it around, because the core gameplay and map are pretty great imo, but they really fucked up the rest.

I was really looking forward to it. Loved the first two games so much

[visual hill]

I reinstalled TDU2 last week, RohanKar has a collection of delisted games over on archive.org

[eager bane]

Yup, I pull that out every now and then as well! Also played the fanmade server project thingy with a friend for a bit

I know critics weren't too into it back then, but man has it aged well as a game

In my humble opinion

Maybe modern AAA-games just aren't for me.

[orchid sundial]

they should add more original xbox/xbox 360 games to game pass

where is cars 2.

[wind stump]

GAME OF THE YEAR

[river veldt]

what are the other ones

[gaunt marten]

Pettiest shit ever

The quest is called The Ribbiting Tale of a Lily Pad Labour Dispute

[green fulcrum]

[gaunt marten]

The dispute evidence is also petty

[gaunt marten]

https://i.imgur.com/0o2oXCn.png the quest itself is good

https://i.imgur.com/KXN9lDZ.png