general gaming

[astral steeple]

Beatsaber is ending support on ps5 and ps4

[craggy vine]

hi :3

[gaunt marten]

The dog makes the CK2 loading screen art goofy as hell instead of dramatic

[static bluff]

Regal dog

[visual hill]

he looks like Milou, the dog from Tintin

[quiet swift]

Snowy, in english

[green fulcrum]

You joke, but that's a literal lap dog. Royalty of many cultures used to own small dogs like that to warm their laps on cold days.

And in return they got headpats, belly rubs, and food.

[gaunt marten]

Achievement done https://i.imgur.com/483T0Pm.png

It's such a hassle to fight nomads.

They can spawn soldiers on occupied territory, you need to build forts or have soldiers in their nomadic land or else you it's not occupied, and once you win you have to build cities or castles in every county else it falls back to being in nomad hands.

For this achievement I started as Saxony so I can easily go viking

[bitter stream]

congrats

[hushed onyx]

—Cyrus of Persia, just before being dunked 😛

[gaunt marten]

Yeah

Next achievement... persistent survivor? https://i.imgur.com/C5yt3di.png

It's really hard to resist conquering and conquering until the game slows down, so I'm going to try starting as a count-level vassal and focusing a lot on my demesne

[slim thorn]

what ends the game exactly?

[gaunt marten]

Reaching the end date

It's a historical roleplay simulation! You get to make up your own goals

[hushed onyx]

In practice usually deciding that you’re done and starting something else.

[gaunt marten]

The end date for CK2 is the historial fall of constantinople, which western historians tend to decide as a marker for the end of the medieval era

[hushed onyx]

You do get a game over if you don’t have an heir of your blood on succession, too.

[gaunt marten]

For this run I just finished, I started at 769 and ended the game around 950ish

(as soon as I achieved my goal)

[hushed onyx]

I had that once while playing as the Karlings from 769, for some reason I always had a lot of trouble having kids in that game.

[gaunt marten]

Running out of heirs can easily happen

Almost happened to me this game because someone assassinated my emperor and two of his three children

since I had the alexander bloodline this played to my benefit, since each ruler gets to use the invasion casus belli once, and with that you can conquer everything really fast

[hushed onyx]

Were they named Atreus?

[gaunt marten]

I'll open up the chronicles

[hushed onyx]

(It’s a joke, Atreus was famous in Greek mythology for murdering his half-brother and then, in a feud with his brother, murdering his nephews and tricking his brother into cannibalizing them)

[gaunt marten]

https://i.imgur.com/vyNzTpa.png

Helene II, Ansgardohtor and Ekbert from left to right, top to bottom, ending the game with Jutta Theodericing

[slim thorn]

now that has me thinking about where everyone else's "medieval" periods end...

Japan's the only one I'm familiar enough with to say the obvious choice is the Battle of Sekigahara in 1600 (a nice round year by total coincidence)

[gaunt marten]

In the west, Spanish and Atlantic focused historians pick Columbus and the Reconquista. Religious historians tend to pick Martin Luther's theses. Social and economic historians tend to pick the plague. Islamic historians don't have a middle ages period, but when talking about the western ones they tend to pick the Mongol invasions and the fall of Baghdad as important points near the end of the medieval era.

In CK2 you see some Reconquista early if you're lucky, as well as the plague, the mongol invasion, fall of baghdad. The fall of constantinople rarely happens on time.

[unreal idol]

Inserts the conspiracy theory that parts of the medieval never actually happened

[gaunt marten]

That's not a conspiracy theory, that's just historians disagreeing (for bad and good reasons)

[shell shore]

No idea if this should go in gaming or creations..so ima just do both

[gaunt marten]

Nice

[river veldt]

what year is it on the Islamic calendar

[cunning galleon]

Atleast 2

[gaunt marten]

There's several islamic calendars

The hijri calendar is 1446 now

(I was born 1412)

[river veldt]

ah

inch resting

[hushed onyx]

I think PK is referring to conspiracy theories arguing that history was faked somehow to move events around or insert made-up events into time. The New Chronology of Fomenko or Phantom Time are examples.

[gaunt marten]

Right, but historians also make this sort of claim at times

[unreal idol]

Yeah this

[gaunt marten]

Errors in history tend to come in the following categories:
Something added, removed, moved, minimized, magnified, split, fused, reframed, misattributed.
For each of these categories, the error can be intentional or unintentional.

[slim thorn]

the background art in that DLC is so good

[toxic seal]

They cooked so hard

It's been updated too

This vtuber poster wasn't always here

[slim thorn]

oh that looks familiar to me

[toxic seal]

Maybe I'm remembering wrong, as I haven't played since 2019 but I'm pretty sure it wasn't there

[cerulean herald]

when was that DLC released?

[toxic seal]

2019 I'm pretty sure

Yep it was May 2019

[slim thorn]

that tracks then, I played all of AHiT well after even the DLCs were old news

[wind stump]

Kiwami means extreme!

[slim thorn]

I think my other favorite wall art in the metro was the one with the samurai cat

[wind stump]

god nyakuza metro was so fun

[slim thorn]

it's also pretty great in the randomizer

(assuming you like shop locations )

[wind stump]

i don't know what that means

[slim thorn]

ah, buying all the random junk from the half-dozen metro cats becomes a big deal when someone's Hookshot or Super Missile lands in those spots

[wind stump]

ahhh

[slim thorn]

in fact on second thought metro might be the best level in the randomizer; it's really the only one where receiving the metro tickets in a non-vanilla order gives you these criss-crossing non-vanilla paths to get to various parts of it

[wind stump]

new eva collab looks sick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI-Bs24Rp-U

[proud warren]

bro the fucking screenshots from the player manual is cracking me up

[wind stump]

get in the mecha, mario

[hushed onyx]

Maybe, but this goes well beyond that to claim that, for example, the entire Middle Ages were just completely made up and never happened.

This is very different from saying that, for example, the version of Egyptian history relayed by Herodotus seems to have conflated some pharaohs and invented others.

Or that the “Seventh Dynasty” might not actually have existed.

[unreal idol]

Yeah whenever I hear it, it's usually tangential to some reptilian/illuminati/lizard people bullshit

[gaunt marten]

https://i.imgur.com/1qg5iDu.png
Count Faroald of Bolzano, under the duke of Friuli, under the king of Italy. He's a Just, Ambitious, diplomatic Lombard with one castle in the mountains and big dreams.

[wind stump]

he be giving the stink-eye

[gaunt marten]

I'm not good at this

Every time I say I'm going to stay as a count I end up stealing titles until I'm a king

[green fulcrum]

"Task failed successfully"

Also, I'm reminded of that gif of the guy crying into wads of cash.

[gaunt marten]

While I'm doing a little conquering, I may as well take on the big dog https://i.imgur.com/4dbYZjv.png

[green fulcrum]

[cerulean herald]

Im glad I found out about Rusted Moss here, its been a riot

[unreal idol]

Help why is the new Kong lady attractive

[fresh bane]

it is a pretty good design

and then there's Ganondorf randomly in there too

[river veldt]

but ye new DK looks badass

[fresh bane]

I heard DK only got like 2 costumes in the new mario kart which is insane

[rancid herald]

PK discovering why humanity has nethanderal dna, 2025 colourized

[fresh bane]

til

[fresh bane]

https://bsky.app/profile/domesticus.bsky.social/post/3lrwag5iuuk2z

Vincent (@domesticus.bsky.social)

NOW PUT THAT THING BACK WHERE IT CAME FROM OR SO HELP ME

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[cerulean herald]

who's the human

[fresh bane]

Pauline

https://tenor.com/view/super-mario-odyssey-mario-pauline-hat-party-gif-17469333

[gaunt marten]

Don't hire a mystic as your court physician https://i.imgur.com/rCO2hDq.png

This guy fucking killed himself to heal my dysentery

[hasty patio]

Wow. A bit crazy, but did it work?

[gaunt marten]

It didn't cure me, but I did get better (I didn't turn lunatic either)

[worthy rose]

https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon_update

Marathon delayed. This is my shocked face.

[light gate]

Well this caught me off guard.

[unreal idol]

I think I'm losing it at how adorable Pauline is

This DK game looks

bananas

[sacred grove]

It does. I'm not even into DK games particularly, but Bananza looks so high-effort and neat

[young creek]

BANANZAAAAAAAAAA

[unreal idol]

I just wanna know why DK has a dump truck of a rump when he's powered up

[green fulcrum]

Nintendo knows what their audience wants.

[unreal idol]

Looking at Poppy Kong yeah lmao

[wind stump]

looks at Daisy in Mario Kart World

[green fulcrum]

Also Peach, Rosalina, Pauline, and Wario, lol.

Also the cow. Not in the "attractive" sense, but in the "we know you think this guy is cute so we are going all out with its cuteness" sense.

The knew from the start the cow was gonna make them millions.

[wind stump]

i remember seeing a post comparing Daisy and Peach's... Ass-ets and there's definitely some bias there which i approve of as a life-long Daisy enjoyer because i like women with a goddamn personality

OH NO SHE HAS ADORABLE OUTFITS

heart attack

[rancid herald]

PK discovering why humanity has neanderthal DNA, part 2, 2025 colourized

[unreal idol]

[river veldt]

the cow is so fucking cute

[quiet swift]

Oh hey. One of the games I language tested is out now. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1708950/Battle_Train/ @wind stump I think you ight enjoy

Steam

Battle Train

ROGUELITE ON RAILS
Battle Train brings classic roguelite design to the tracks with fast-paced duels, branching paths, and floor-based progression packed with bosses, special events, and escalating stakes.

Each run is a strategic loop of resource management, risk-reward decisions, and deck refinement as you unlock powerful cards, new character…

Price

$17.99

▶ Play video

[wind stump]

[slim thorn]

nice, I've never played these but I did watch the Josh Strife Hayes videos, and I remember him saying this part catches everyone off guard

[light gate]

I mean ||its literally the first level||. So yeah!

What caught me even more off guard was when I picked up the secrit item.

Its like the game was mocking me there lmao.

[visual hill]

Zero Suit Samus mains in shambles

[cerulean herald]

I think we're gonna have to kill this guy, Steven

[slim thorn]

that sidequest was fun

[random steppe]

Ok so, apparently Dune Awakening has spice allucinations
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dOnWcUQpXVo

It's a cute mechanic, that's all

Everyone doing their job, this dude out of their goddamn mind looking at the 200 foot tall Giraffe

[wind stump]

Rusted Moss!

[slim thorn]

there are 3 of us!

still miffed that I'm so bad at it I can't play the DLC

[wind stump]

mood

[cerulean herald]

so real, I do enjoy this game as a whole, but its also the type of game I need to take frequent breaks from bc of the difficulty at times

[wind stump]

les gooooo

[river veldt]

this level is so hard in Halo 2

[slim thorn]

which one

[river veldt]

Quarantine Zone

[slim thorn]

ah

which difficulty

[river veldt]

im on Normal

[visual hill]

are you playing on controller or KB/M?

[river veldt]

controller

[visual hill]

I suppose controller in Halo MCC has generous aim assist out of the box (does it depend on difficulty like in GoldenEye?)

so it's probably not too much of a skill difference

[slim thorn]

does that meaningfully affect the difficulty for Halo?

[visual hill]

I'm playing Dark Forces Remaster on my Ally X and it has vertical aim assist only, no horizontal aim assist

it runs beautifully at 120 FPS with a 4W TDP, so I can have 7+ hours of battery life

I can probably finish the game in a single charge 😛

in comparison, for Forza Horizon 4 at 120 FPS, I need a 40W TDP which only gives me 1.3 hours or so

[river veldt]

every time i pick up a weapon mid battle i feel like this gif

https://tenor.com/view/naked-gun-leslie-nielsen-shooting-shoot-gun-gif-17886811

[visual hill]

playing with autoswitch be like

[river veldt]

Arbiter is cool but i do kind of miss playing as Chief

[slim thorn]

"autoswitch"?

[visual hill]

I always turn it off, most games don't implement it well (they will switch even if you are currently firing or if the new weapon is worse than your currenet weapon)

[visual hill]

automatically switching weapon when you get a new one

(or sometimes not a new one... the worst kind)

Doom is a worst offender here, its autoswitch is not optional in the vanilla game

it can actually screw with some speedruns in situations where you can't avoid a weapon pickup (this is a common issue with the berserk pickup, which always switches you to the fist even if you've already picked one beforehand)

[slim thorn]

huh

ok that was really confusing for a second because I don't think Halo does any of this?

(unless you count the times it'll reset your weapons at the start of a level)

[visual hill]

I only keep autoswitch on in Doom multiplayer, because maps often have a weapon on every spawn point you'll want to switch to

(since starting with a different weapon than the pistol is not a vanilla-compatible feature)

and pressing 3 after every spawn gets tiring 😛

[river veldt]

i will say, boarding enemy vehicles and planting grenades and then jumping off makes me feel badass

[slim thorn]

oh yeah, I remember the Halo 2 marketing made a big deal out of vehicle boarding

it remains a great feature in the later games too, some of my favorite hijackings happen in Halo 3's Tsavo Highway

[river veldt]

god im so excited to play Halo 3 lmao

[slim thorn]

you'll appreciate it so much more after experiencing the Halo 2 stuff first, especially 2's Brutes

[visual hill]

I did that in Just Cause 2 the other day when I ran out of ammo

grapple to enemy vehicle, drop grenade, grapple to your vehicle, detonate grenade

[slim thorn]

oh... did that become a standard feature after Halo 2?

[fresh bane]

Original OPL3 soundtrack or the new MIDI option?

wait I just read the rest of that sentence, that's weird

but I don't play shooters on controllers so I would never know about those settings

I think Halo is probably the only one I'd be inclined to because those games are built for controller, especially xbox

But playing shooters on controllers just doesn't feel right to me at all

[river veldt]

i only play on controller

mouse and keyboard feels fine but i prefer contorller

[visual hill]

new MIDI, I think

I can't stand the OPL sound personally, it always sounded like a budget low-end version of General MIDI

(it's the same in Doom)

[slim thorn]

I play everything on controller unless the game literally doesn't support it

[fresh bane]

damn, fair enough though

[slim thorn]

which is interesting because I did grow up with PC games, including a few PC shooters, before a clear switch to consoles

[river veldt]

i assume you don't use mice because you're a cat

[slim thorn]

so I'm pretty sure controllers are just intrinsically more comfy for me when it comes to long gaming sessions

and/or I've never had the raw skill required to make mouse aiming the objectively superior technology that everyone keeps insisting it is

[visual hill]

I suppose OPL was good when you had no other option back in the day (or if your only alternative was... shivers... PC speaker)

not everyone could afford a sound card that did General MIDI, one that did FM synthesis, one that did Gravis UltraSound back in the day 😛 and add some MT-32 for good measure

we have it easy now

[visual hill]

did you try gyro aiming?

[slim thorn]

what is that

[fresh bane]

I don't know why but I went with the OPL for my playthrough even though it was my first time, something about the MIDI sounded off to me and didn't give me the same vibe that the original sound did

[visual hill]

aiming based on the gyroscope in the controller (for fine refinements, quick angle changes are still done with right stick)

[slim thorn]

pffff

[visual hill]

it's supported in many modern games but Xbox controller don't have it, as they lack a gyroscope. PS4/PS5/Switch do

[slim thorn]

only when forced to by a motion control game

I feel like Mario Odyssey insisted on something like that at one point

[visual hill]

it sounds gimmicky at first, but it's the closest to mouse you can get while still playing with a controller, especially with flick stick

(an optimized variant of the right stick for quick rotation)

[slim thorn]

oh I think I get what you mean now

[visual hill]

it's basically a friction-less mouse

[slim thorn]

probably not, I don't think the USB controller I have comes with that kind of gyro

oooh now that you mention it I kept getting caught off guard by the Switch doing that in Zelda

[river veldt]

gyro is cool

[visual hill]

motion control in BOTW works in Cemu too, that caught me off-guard as well

[slim thorn]

would've been nice if they told me about it before I started "randomly" missing shots "for no reason"

[visual hill]

but yeah, it has nearly no tutorials about it

[slim thorn]

I think at the time I literally concluded it was some kind of bug and just learned to hold the Switch against something during certain parts of the game

[fresh bane]

I remember seeing a Nerrel video about gyro aiming and seeing the steam controller in action for the first time

I really wanted one but by that time they were already discontinued

[visual hill]

my brother has one, he kind of likes it but still prefers Xbox Elite most of the time

I have a lot of controllers since I need all of them for Godot testing... I've gotten a DualSense Edge recently because of this

[fresh bane]

If I had a gyro-capable controller, I'd actually probably use controllers for shooters, mouse still ofer way better precision but with gyro you can actually get really really close, plus unlike other motion control implementations gyro actually feels really natural to use

[visual hill]

with the Switch 2 being out, I'll surely also get a Switch 2 Pro Controller once it has the tiniest amount of sale going for it

[fresh bane]

I ended up getting a gamesir xbox controller because it's the cheapest thing I found around here, luckily after I looked it up everybody kept saying how good it is for the price but the main drawback for a lot of people is that it's cable only, which for me isn't a problem at all (also the cable is really long)

but I guess using cables is just a flat no for a lot of people

[visual hill]

I almost always use controllers wired for latency reasons

[slim thorn]

I always use a wired controller so I never have to worry about charging it separately

we are not the same

[fresh bane]

I come from the bygone era of sitting on the floor in front of the PS2 looking up at the TV because the cable wasn't long enough to reach the couch, so cables never bothered me

[visual hill]

the only modern controller I'm still missing is a PS4 controller, but it's pretty legacy by now. Still used by lots of people

I have never held a PS4 controller in my hands

[slim thorn]

IIRC we dragged our PS2 to the middle of the floor so the controller would reach the couch

[visual hill]

I remember doing that too

[river veldt]

Cemu ?

[visual hill]

Wii U emulator

it was basically the BOTW emulator at some point, its developer got lots of Patreon subscriptions because of it

it has decent compatibility and it's open source since 2022, so it still gets improvements

the Switch version of BOTW runs OK in emulators, but the Wii U version is less demanding to emulate and also a bit more stable

[slim thorn]

was Cemu left alone by the yuzupocalypse?

[visual hill]

yeah, its developers never got in trouble

[fresh bane]

I do see a lot of people saying they prefer the DS4 over the DualSense, but I never really looked into why

[visual hill]

the main thing Nintendo did was takedowns of YouTube videos showcasing BOTW multiplayer, which ran on Cemu

[fresh bane]

I remember the first time I saw a wireless PS3 controller, I had never seen a PS3 at all before and I remember thinking it was the most incredible thing ever

[visual hill]

heh same, I also remember the debate around removed vibrations and Sony saying "vibrations are so 2000" as an excuse

[slim thorn]

the Xbox 360 was my introduction to wireless controllers

[visual hill]

then vibrations were readded later due to heavy demand

[slim thorn]

I like the lack of cable, but constantly needing to recharge them wasn't worth it

[river veldt]

oh the brutes are racist towards elites i guess

[slim thorn]

it's been long enough I don't remember how much was genuine racism and how much was the... uh... political context? I'm not sure what would be a spoiler atm

[river veldt]

Johnson and Keyes just got the Index but then the Arbiter came in and kicked their asses and then Tartarus and friends came in and took Keyes (who has the Index) and said that they were going to end Arbiter's "puny race" or something like that

[fickle garnet]

God I want to play this sooooo bad

[slim thorn]

ah, then yeah no spoiler risk

I think preexisting brute v elite sentiment had more to do with the elites being essentially in charge of the army, and brutes feeling like they should be instead, which came out pretty quick when Arby rebelled

but ofc that turns into "racism" pretty quick so lots of room for interpretation

[river veldt]

ah

[river veldt]

no !

the game did a fatal error during a super compelling cutscene

[random steppe]

It's a good game, even tho it's pretty flawed and kind of grindy.

[river veldt]

what the fuck does fatal error even mean

[slim thorn]

on its own, exactly what it sounds like

[random steppe]

I like that unlike Conan Exiles, that had barely a coat of Conan paint on a pretty generic Survival Game, this one has A LOT of Dune poured into it.

[river veldt]

is Conan Exiles the one with all the nude men

[random steppe]

I think so

I mean there are a lot of survival games with that feature for some reason

[river veldt]

nude and afrude

[slim thorn]

even Zelda has that feature

[river veldt]

no Link has undies

[slim thorn]

oh you meant completely

[rancid herald]

no, that's his skin. Hylians are just like that

[river veldt]

yes all those nude men are legit nude

have you seen Conan

with Arnie

IT SKIPPED THE CUTSCENE

ok i'll just go look on wikipedia

I MISSED A LOT ?????

The Arbiter meets the Master Chief in the bowels of the Halo, brought together by a Flood creature called the Gravemind. The Gravemind reveals to the Arbiter that the Great Journey is a lie, and sends the two soldiers to different places to stop Halo's activation. The Master Chief is teleported to High Charity as the Covenant falls into civil war.

[rancid herald]

cutscene?

Oh I thought you were playing dune

[river veldt]

i was watching a Halo 2 cutscene and the game did a fatal error and when i relaunched it

oh

[slim thorn]

no no Cap's been playing Halo the whole time

Gen's the only one talking about Dune afaik

[river veldt]

Master Chief mind telling me what you're doing on Arrakis
sir, cultivating desert power

[slim thorn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-vdHpvoUJE seems to be this scene?

[fresh bane]

I don't remember the first thing about Halo lore so this is all mumbo jumbo to me

[river veldt]

c'mon youtube are you serious

[slim thorn]

lol

there's probably a better version somewhere but this didn't seem worth watching several versions to compare

[river veldt]

it's ok i get the jist

Gravemind is very scary

do not like

[slim thorn]

yeah, it's pretty critical to see most of this, but the gist is fine

plus I think this is the only time we straight-up see the Gravemind on screen, all of its other dialogue is telepathy to wherever you happen to be later

[river veldt]

oh gist

[river veldt]

oh

[slim thorn]

though it really likes the sound of its own telepathy

one of the few fails in Halo 3 is that it somehow gains the power to force you to walk slowly while it's telepathically yapping at you

[river veldt]

also, i don't remember if i mentioned it yet but when i was playing as the Arbiter and sliding through a bunch of tunnel tube things in the Halo reminded me of in Empire Strikes Back when Luke jumps off the thing after fighting Vader and he slides through the tubes

[slim thorn]

oh yeah, there is some overlap there

[river veldt]

buge ????

why are there bugs

[slim thorn]

haven't the bugs been in several levels by now

[river veldt]

if they have i haven't noticed them til bow

[slim thorn]

maybe we're talking about different things

"bugs" in Halo makes me think of the flying green enemies, typically holding plasma pistols and showing up in huge swarms, first seen in the first level of Halo 2 where one of the diagonal elevators you need to wait for has a bunch of them guarding it

also one of the few situations the SMG is useful on higher difficulties

[river veldt]

oh !

no

they're these little yellow fellas

[slim thorn]

huh, that doesn't ring any bells for me

[river veldt]

https://www.halopedia.org/Covenant_pest

these apparently

they're only in this specific level

[slim thorn]

huh

I do not remember these at all

[arctic fern]

i have never seen these

[fresh bane]

this S rank method for this mission just so happens to also be a great farming method as well (when you hit a checkpoint all resources are sent to motherbase, so you can restart the mission for infinite tanks and sell for profit)
but also, it's very funny seeing the enemy go ''intruder detected, stay alert '' as they slowly start getting helplessly fultoned up into the night sky one by one

[river veldt]

whoaaa

[fresh bane]

Oh cool they put the reticle back in the right place for Halo 3

I remember in 2 it was way low on the screen

[slim thorn]

I also like "Heroism +500"

[fickle garnet]

Is it worth the price though?

[random steppe]

Depends, it's pricey, I have friends that really wanted to play this one so it's worth more for me , if I played it fully solo I probably would have waited for a discount.

I did hear that the endgame in particular is not in a good state, that said the journey to it is pretty solid

[fickle garnet]

I don't have friends to play it with unfortunately

[dense crypt]

high charity is beautiful

[river veldt]

decided to do some important research and oh my goodness there's a lot of Chief x Arbiter art

[fresh bane]

It's really funny, but I think it's because one of the platforms finished development right at the same moment

the really funny message you can get is this one though

[river veldt]

i have to get this off my chest the brute plasma rifle looks like it shoots mountain dew code red

[fresh bane]

I mean, I'm pretty sure if they could've gotten away with it, back during the Halo 3 era, they totally would've made a custom skin for a gun that was Mountain Dew

MGS Peace Walker had Mountain Dew cosmetics

and that was in like 2011...

I don't know if that's still considered a gaming stereotype nowadays

[dense crypt]

Yeah its called Arby n the Chief

[bronze abyss]

i was bored

clubstep is out of the way now

still cant do hexagon force btw

[cerulean herald]

i rember when i was into geometry dash way back when

[bronze abyss]

i only really was into it when i was at a single digit age, afterwards i only really played it if i was bored and had nothing better to do

[wind stump]

I WAS FUCKING ROBBED

"Surely Mushroom Cup won't be too hard."

[river veldt]

what kart is that

[wind stump]

circuit something

Circuit Special

lmao you can honk the horn even during the results screen

[fickle garnet]

Now I kinda want to play MK

[visual hill]

also during the multiplayer loading sequence (other karts will look at you when you do so)

[wind stump]

what the fuck, i was 8th place and i suddenly jump to 5th at the last second

I'll take it, but damn

One down!... 23 to go

One point of getting a star tho

[green fulcrum]

I don't remember Petey Piranha in MK8?

[fickle garnet]

They're a DLC character

They added a few new characters in the booster pack

[river veldt]

dlc characters are Petey, Kamek, Funky Kong, Pauline, Birdo, Diddy Kong

i think that's it

[cunning galleon]

Chi-nu Type 3 main gun... Lots of work with only war thunder as reference

Because for some reason they modeled the interior

[fickle garnet]

Well if they didn't I'm pretty sure the community would leak some sort of classified information to get them to

[cunning galleon]

They can't risk going into a real chi-nu

The interior is probably lined with asbestos

There is 1 surviving Chi-Nu but theres no interior shots of it

[fresh bane]

all these tank pictures remind me of the fact that MGSV couldn't use real vehicles/weapons or their names due to licensing issues so every tank in the game and all the weapons have fictional names and are modified from their original appearance

so a character like Ocelot goes from using a Colt Single Action to a... ''Tornado-6 Revolver''

....and then he switches back to the Single Action later....

[gaunt marten]

https://i.imgur.com/SeFXvsz.png Dear liege, unfortunately I cannot join you for merrymaking at this time because I fucking died between the time you sent me this letter and the time it arrived.

[fickle garnet]

I'd rather games do that then buy the licensing tbh

[wind stump]

wha the fuck, lmao

[robust latch]

https://youtu.be/dPx_qaC-SLU birbs character factory builder

[gaunt marten]

https://youtu.be/EReV1J9d4ss

[light gate]

I think I’m getting the hang of Tomb Raider 2. It is much more difficult but it’s easier to distinguish where to go compared to the first one. Still a very hard game though.

[worthy rose]

https://www.timeextension.com/news/2025/06/its-a-middle-finger-to-everybody-producer-behind-netflixs-castlevania-and-devil-may-cry-series-is-working-on-duke-nukem-next oh no

[fickle garnet]

Oh god

[river veldt]

Castlevania was good yes ?

[dense crypt]

not gonna have anything to do with duke nukem, you wait and see

[river veldt]

just watch Evil Dead ??????

those are just live action Doom/Duke Nukem movies

[visual hill]

this reminds me, I had Bulletstorm Full Clip Edition with the Duke Nukem DLC loaded up on my Ally, but sound was super glitchy

[cunning galleon]

Churchill 1 survives a shit ton of shots

Only an Pz. IV F2 could kill me

[fickle garnet]

I think I'm getting better at DMC3

[green fulcrum]

Castlevania was great, Devil May Cry was apparently shiiiiiiit.

[fickle garnet]

It was just a generic action show with a few Devil May Cry characters slapped in that were nothing like their game counterparts

Anyways I beat Agni and Rudra in DMC3

It took me two tries and I had a sliver of health when I beat them

[cunning galleon]

Ahahahaha I'm going crazy

[wind stump]

beep beep

[green fulcrum]

That's such a cute smile

[fresh bane]

What I keep hearing is Castlevania has nothing to do with the games either but people liked it enough that it now stands on its own completely, Castlevania game fans always seem to be mixed in whether they like it or not
DMC is awful all around, not good or interesting on its own at all and a terrible adaptation of the already good thing, there's just nothing there

[slim thorn]

tbf the Castlevania games rarely have more than five minutes of plot in them, there was never a world in which a Castlevania TV show would be a "direct" adaptation of one or even multiple games

IMO judging the show and judging any of the games are just wholly different topics with wholly different standards

(DMC ofc I can't speak to any version of)

[wind stump]

oh good
i have to friggin' win Rainbow Road on 200cc...

I'M SORRY THIS TRACK IS BULLSHIT ON 200CC OKAY

[river veldt]

fuck Hazy Maze Cave

[gaunt marten]

I don't like the slippery pit

[river veldt]

just getting 100 coins is really annoying

[gaunt marten]

I do like the elevator clip

[river veldt]

i also hate how enclosed it is

wide open levels >>>>>>>>>>>>> corridors

the exception being Big Boo's Haunt that level is good

[gaunt marten]

Yeah

[river veldt]

what do you think of Wet-Dry World

[gaunt marten]

I don't like it because it's hard to explore

[river veldt]

that's fair

[gaunt marten]

It's probably in my bottom five. I like the gimmick but think they did it wrong

[river veldt]

i like the underwater village a lot though

[river veldt]

isn't it a similar gimmick to the water temple in OoT ?

[gaunt marten]

Yeah!

I don't like the loading screen

[river veldt]

loading screen?

[gaunt marten]

Yeah, you can change water level by entering the painting differently

Which means you need to go through a loading screen

[river veldt]

oh !

yeah

idk i always thought that was cool

[gaunt marten]

It's cool but it'd be cooler if there was no loading

[river veldt]

what do you think of Rainbow Ride i know that's a very polarizing level

[gaunt marten]

It was fine. I found it kind of nonmemorable

Not too frustrating. The magic carpet ride is cool but restrictive

[river veldt]

yeah i agree

iirc they ran out of time so the last few stages were a but rushed

[gaunt marten]

Miyamoto never said that a rushed game is bad forever

[rotund forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkgo8bbdo-o

lol

[visual hill]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi-Sd6Cp1EI

Kart of Harkinian SpaghettiKart is out in preview

[river veldt]

is Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown good ? i played like, 5 minutes of the original but this one caught my eye

[slim thorn]

yeah, it's one of the best metroidvanias

if Nine Sols hadn't come out the same year you probably would've seen me obsessing over Lost Crown instead

[gaunt marten]

In CK2, the Byzantine Empire is designed to have as many revolts as possible, but this is ridiculous https://i.imgur.com/uGKso8j.png

The big shields are major empire-level rulers. There are two simultaneous revolts against the emperor, and me sitting in Constantinople which I stole earlier

Four emperors a few days away from each other

Poor guy is participating in five wars https://i.imgur.com/0TjaI2d.png

[rugged flax]

apparently Nintendon't did an oopsie and some stores have gotten Switch 2 consoles still in Factory Mode

[gaunt marten]

Excuse me?! https://i.imgur.com/JHvdYLa.png

The AI managed to make a horse theocracy on its own

I did not get glitterhoof even once in this campaign

But her court doesn't have any horses capable of having children

Guess I have to seduce this horse if I want there to be more horses in the world

[thorny cedar]

@slim thorn used the '.addquote' context command:

Added quote #28 to Flitter:

Guess I have to seduce this horse if I want there to be more horses in the world

[gaunt marten]

https://i.imgur.com/thjWzcJ.png Horses don't have knuckles, silly

[gaunt marten]

Everyone meet my new heir https://i.imgur.com/M6Mg6PF.png

[river veldt]

denounce

[gaunt marten]

No way she's an attractive lefthanded Sayyid genius

I'm going to make her empress

[gaunt marten]

With the help of a maxed out hospital (and having less than maxed prosperity) Constantinople has survived the black death without the disease making it into the county

https://i.imgur.com/Cfbl6U7.png

[quiet swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pj4YW0umJ8 now this is a crossover I wasn't expecting....

[young creek]

heard people were talking shit on wet dry world last night here

thats my goat you're talking about

[bitter stream]

anyone playing Battlefront 2? I just downloaded it and it's a blast. There's been a surge of players recently for some reason haha

The starfighter mode is so cool

[fresh bane]

I got it the other night too, I think it's gotten a resurgence of players because of May 4th and also because it's like 3 dollars with all the DLC included

also it's surprisingly easy to run so I think a lot of people being able to actually run the game nicely helps too

(and also it's just a good game)

unfortunately seems to have a hacking problem since like last year since there's been no updates for the game so that's a bummer, you just gotta hope you don't encounter cheaters or people nuking a server

[cunning galleon]

chi-nu

[bitter stream]

oh fair enough Nire

[wind stump]

hazy mazy cavey

[arctic fern]

https://youtu.be/1pj4YW0umJ8

[uneven epoch]

yes grayclash, truly terrible happenings in our healer den. imagine someone doin that. (it was me, i did that)

[wind stump]

What game is this?

[uneven epoch]

so you mightve heard of warrior cats books. theres a fangame called clangen (clan generator) where you have your own clan. that spawned a bunch of mods, and one of them is lifegen, which is clangen but you also play as your own character. this is that one, enriched with hd sprites from another mod, mossmod.

[random steppe]

It's always fascinating to see warrior cats fan because I literally never even heard of them before manechat, so I like, fail step 1 of context every time but it's always kind of interesting to see how dedicated people are to it.

[uneven epoch]

the amount of "game" you actually get from this. well depends you mostly watch the kitties do their thing thru heavy amounts of text. you can decide stuff like patrols, ships, apprentices, herbs stored, but u cant control stuff like when kits are born or who dies or such. its like. cat clan simulator lite™ ? most frequently ppl use it as basis of a story n then draw comics of their clans on tumblr but its also fun to just read about them n get attached to some cats n then cry when they get hit by a car or are murdered by someone else in clan who hated their guts

or the blizzard™ hits and third of your clan freezes if you have that setting on

[random steppe]

So Rimworld

But warrior cats themed

[wind stump]

[uneven epoch]

lol, yea kinda though im pretty sure rimworld has more direct control (and i dont think it has that much reading whereas here its the main thing you do)

[wind stump]

THE KITTIES YEARN FOR THE MINES

[uneven epoch]

also gonna share my kitteh while we´re here and it truly is peak bringi style™

[slim thorn]

now that you mention it, Warrior Cats would be a perfect setting for a Rimworld total conversion mod

[random steppe]

I was curious and I checked if it existed but it doesn't look like it

[wind stump]

if i never have to play MK8 Rainbow Road again it'll be too soon

[river veldt]

watching Vinny react to all the Smash Ultimate character reveals and i forgot how insane the "Everyone is Here" moment was

[gaunt marten]

The Byzantine emperor's capital is in this teensy island west of Epirus https://i.imgur.com/YSqBjl4.png

[river veldt]

where in the world is this

[gaunt marten]

It's between Greece and Italy

[hasty patio]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Epirus_antiquus_tabula.jpg Highlighted in Green.

[gaunt marten]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epirus_(region)

He's in the bigger island northwest

[river veldt]

my geography is so bad

[gaunt marten]

Play Crusader Kings 2

The base game is free and it'll teach you where everything is

[river veldt]

it seems like a game you'd need a mouse for

[gaunt marten]

Yes, it is

And if you play with me you get to use all the DLC I got from a humble bundle (worth like 200 dollars)

[river veldt]

2

200 dollars ????

[gaunt marten]

That's how they make their money. Make tons and tons of content, parcel it out in expansions

They have a free to play game with the world and basic mechanics, as well expansions that add content, add different music, or just customizable graphics.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/203770/Crusader_Kings_II/

Steam

Crusader Kings II

The Dark Ages might be drawing to a close, but Europe is still in turmoil. Petty lords vie against beleaguered kings who struggle to assert control over their fragmented realms. The Pope calls for a Crusade to protect the Christians in the Holy Land even as he refuses to relinquish control over the investiture of bishops - and their riches. Now…

Recommendations

30808

Metacritic

82

▶ Play video

[river veldt]

this game seems complex

do you have to unlock the horse and bear

[gaunt marten]

They also have a subscription where you rent all DLC for a mont

Yes and no

They come in the base game, but some DLC give you other ways of unlocking them

Let me look it up

[river veldt]

yeah i meant in base game do you have to unlock them through special means

[gaunt marten]

You do have to unlock them through special means even with all DLC (like clicking through a menu multiple times to unlock the secret animal world mode)

[river veldt]

ah

[gaunt marten]

Yeah okay. To get horses, you need an event that shows up if you have Conclave or another that shows up if you have Reaper's Due

https://store.steampowered.com/app/394320/Expansion__Crusader_Kings_II_Conclave/

Steam

Expansion - Crusader Kings II: Conclave

Conclave , the latest major expansion for Crusader Kings II, will give your vassals some bite to go along with your bark, as the council that governs your realm will now demand some say in how you rule. Powerful dukes, regardless of competence, will require a seat at the table, and those left on the outside will be more likely to plot against you\…

Price

$14.99

Recommendations

423

https://store.steampowered.com/app/449981/Content_Pack__Crusader_Kings_II_The_Reapers_Due/

Steam

Content Pack - Crusader Kings II: The Reaper's Due

The Crusader Kings II: The Reaper's Due Content Pack contains a Portrait Pack detailing the east African provinces and a Clothing Pack focusing on the late
Byzantine Empire. In addition to these, there are fifteen new models for both Eastern and African councilors.

The Content Pack features:

• • East African Portrait Pack
  …

Price

$4.99

[river veldt]

damn

[gaunt marten]

It looks like secret bears are vanilla?

To unlock the animal world easter egg, you need the holy fury expansion

https://store.steampowered.com/app/756660/Expansion__Crusader_Kings_II_Holy_Fury/

Steam

Expansion - Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury

Christ may rule in Rome and Constantinople, but Northern Europe is still home to the old gods of war and the hearth. These faiths will collide in fierce combat as the Prince of Peace brings conversion by the sword, and Gods of Nature demand unnatural sacrifices as the price of their favor.

Holy Fury is the newest expansion to Crusader Kings II,…

Price

$19.99

Recommendations

594

▶ Play video

[river veldt]

ah well

maybe i'll try the game but animals not being base game kind of kills my interest lmao

[minor plover]

oh I read that as "the holy furry" expansion and I was like "makes sense"

[visual hill]

we just finished an in-game pride walk in Corporate Clash 🙂

and yeah, FPS tanks hard with so many toons on screen. We'll need our 10 GHz CPUs that Crysis wanted to have access to around 15 years ago...

[gaunt marten]

https://i.imgur.com/XlVkN1s.png

Come on, I only did a little torture and mutilation, and I didn't even enjoy it

[dense crypt]

wow, a lot of people play this game?

i thought it had died out years ago tbh

[visual hill]

yeah it's still ongoing! This is not the same as Toontown Rewritten, it's a different private server. It has more gameplay upgrades, better graphics out of the box, etc

it has fewer players but I find it more fun since it's more challenging, less grindy, etc

I started playing in March this year

[dense crypt]

glad to see it's still got good player counts and is getting new content from the fan-devs

[toxic seal]

Illiniois has 12 million people.
80% of them are in the red outline

(I am also in the red outline)

[cerulean herald]

chicago be carrying

[toxic seal]

I did not mean to post that here

[green fulcrum]

And somewhere in the bottom third of the state is Denzy and Poppy.

[river veldt]

why did i think you lived in like

Florida or Georgia

[toxic seal]

I did live in Florida. Moved up here a few years ago.

[river veldt]

ooh

well Chicago area seems like it'd be a better are anyways

[visual hill]

the best area for racing!

[gaunt marten]

Help, the pyramid I inherited is killing my courtiers as they try to explore it, because it thinks I conquered it instead of inheriting it https://i.imgur.com/ySEWQ4B.png

I lost my super expensive scholar-bureaucrat from China

[fresh bane]

As someone who lives on one of the smallest countries in south america, the idea that someone can casually say they moved from Florida to Illinois is pretty crazy

[slim thorn]

[fresh bane]

It's like me saying I moved from where I currently live to Salta in Argentina just casually

[hushed onyx]

I've moved from Houston to Honolulu to Houston to Albuquerque to Boise, and I'm planning on moving again to somewhere in New England.

[gaunt marten]

Boise

I read "to Bloise" at first

Now that would be far

[green fulcrum]

Wow, that's a huge upgrade

[fresh bane]

I don't know how you guys do it, the distances are so massive between places there and every state feels so different it'd be like living in a completely different country for me
Going from the capital all the way up to the other corner of the country in Artigas is like a 5-6 hour 600km drive here which I feel like in most states it would probably not even be halfway the distance of the average state

[green fulcrum]

You have to understand that like 80% of the States is just nature and empty road, with some small towns here and there to restock on gas.

[fresh bane]

Longest travel I did here was when I was a kid going pretty much almost all the way to Brasil and that was like a 5 hour drive

[toxic seal]

States are like different countries in terms of things like economics and culture and it was actually kind of designed that way

It's the United States, with states as in nation-states, but no state in the United States can call itself a nation state

[fresh bane]

I mean, to be fair, most of my country is also just nature and empty roads, the rural population is very low, it's like 5% out of 3 million
but unfortunately our nature is just grass and fields and a ridiculous amount of cows so we don't get any cool mountains or canyons or giant forests or anything

just grass and cows and horses

[river veldt]

that's the midwest

ok we have some forests i guess

but like iowa is mostly corn and cows

[fresh bane]

That's what I mean, I would feel so out of place if I moved as frequently as I have here but in the US, at least assuming most people move outside of their own state frequently at all, I don't actually know that

[cerulean herald]

idk how common it is, but I myself moved to Pennsylvania, from Ohio
good choice I'd say

[fresh bane]

That's pretty close by though, to be fair, but the distance is still massive

[green fulcrum]

So, I just saw a 24-player race on Mario Kart World. It is insanity. You get hit by a single red shell in 1st place and you get knocked down aaaaall the way down to 24th.

[slim thorn]

also, it’s not like we stop at every state in between when we do one of these moves

[green fulcrum]

Dang it, not again

Let me try resending that.

[slim thorn]

my move to the UK was a whole thing, but probably no more of a headache than all these state to state moves

[green fulcrum]

I have the spam bypass roll, why isn't this working? I only have three line breaks in it.

[slim thorn]

that’s actually hitting Discord’s auto mod instead of Izzy

[green fulcrum]

God damn it, I've sent waaaaaay longer messages than this.

Stupid auto mod.

[slim thorn]

try breaking it into multiple messages, that was a pretty huge wall of text either way

[green fulcrum]

Alright

I...hesitate to say this, but I honestly think Mario Kart World lost the plot a bit. It's waaaaay too unbalanced, in every conceivable way. Not only that, but the 24-player races just don't look nearly as fun as Mario Kart 8's. Chaotic and fast-paced, sure, but that unbalanced nature and the fact that all of your hard work to get up to the front can be undone by a single red shell and you can simply never recover from it just feels cheap.

Also, while the game looks fantastic and far superior to MK8 visually, its course design is...kinda bland and uninspired overall, with only a few really strong highlights (though the Rainbow Road track for World is easily the best in the franchise, holy shit). They utterly butchered Wario Stadium, Desert Hills, and Choco Mountain, and instead of properly remaking Airship Fortress with new mechanics or new routes, they just made a 1-to-1 rehash with some grind rails. Again, uninspired. I'm glad they finally brought it back, but man did they do it dirty.

And then there's the decision to force the players into the long stretch races before you do only a single lap on the main course. It made the grand prixs feel less like grand prixs and more like world tours, which you can already do in free roam anyway.

Mario Kart World, to me, feels more like an open-world touring/exploration game with racing elements to it, whereas MK8 feels more like a proper, dedicated racing game. MK8's course design is tight, technical, and requires a fair amount of skill. World's course design is expansive and visually stunning, but suffers from a lack of anything really interesting in your path. It's mostly just long, wide stretches of road with very few set pieces, obstacles, or alternate pathways (some courses like Boo Cinema and Acorn Heights do it a lot better and take advantage of all the new mechanics, but most don't).

Maybe things will get better over time, but right now, MK8 just feels like the better racing game, even if it's not as visually stunning or frantic.

Finally

[cerulean herald]

only a single lap on the main? tf

[green fulcrum]

In regular grand prix mode, yes

In versus mode, it's "sometimes"

In versus it randomizes whether you do three to four laps on the main course, or you do an extremely long, empty, and rather dry stretch of road before doing just one lap.

[river veldt]

but the music 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[green fulcrum]

Oh yeah, I did neglect to mention the music

The music is FIRE

Massive step up from MK8, and MK8's music was also amazing.

[cerulean herald]

what are some songs there you like the most

[fresh bane]

The last mario kart game is on the switch though right? I imagine if anyone didn't like this game they could always jump back into the last one, which I assume still gets enough players to fill some matches
I mean I guess it sucks if you've already played hours of it and you're tired of it but still, I guess the change in direction is why they called it MK World and not MK whatever the next number is

[green fulcrum]

Whistlestop Summit and Faraway Oasis are two of my favorites.

[river veldt]

Rainbow Road

im trying not to spoil myself too much

but from Dunkey's vid it seems that a song from almost every mainline mario is in the game (obv with new arrangements)

[green fulcrum]

I mean, there's still a very dedicated fanbase for Smash Melee and Smash Brawl, even though Smash Ultimate exists.

[rugged flax]

Sorry about that. Discord thought all of it at once was "suspected spam content"
wasn't one of our filters

[green fulcrum]

No worries, not your fault

It's Discord being dumb

(Especially since, again, I've sent way longer messages than that, lol.)

Huh, apparently I'm not alone in thinking the game is unbalanced. Reddit is full of posts saying how frustrated they are with the game and how impossible it is to play online. Apparently getting hit six times in a row without being able to recover or move from the same spot is considered "normal"

[fresh bane]

I've seen a few posts about people posting videos of themselves on the lead only to get blasted by 15 different shells and bombs at the last possible moment and end up last

but I thought that was just the meta since I don't play mario kart

[green fulcrum]

That would've been extremely rare and unlucky in past Mario Kart games, but in World it's just an average race.

And because you now have physics with your hit (some hits are more devastating than others, and you can even minimize the damage some of them do like with bullet bills), sometimes it takes you like five whole seconds to flip your car and continue driving, when before it was a set animation.

[cerulean herald]

that sounds kinda cool on paper, but i can imagine it would be rage inducing in practice

[green fulcrum]

It is both

I just saw a streamer get hit like 8 times in a row, wasn't able to move even an inch forward. Never recovered from it.

[fresh bane]

When people (Sonic fans) started saying it I thought it was just massive cope, but I wonder if the sonic racing game might actually give MK a little competition here considering World seems to prioritize the openness of it more than the racing

[green fulcrum]

But because the races can now be 24-players, instead of the karting happening to just one or maybe two people, it happens to everyone.

So you can have someone go from 1st to 24th to 2nd to 24th again in the span of like six seconds.

And that just...isn't fun, imo.

[fresh bane]

But you can ride on the walls now! /s

[green fulcrum]

It was actually one of the few criticisms that journalists had for World, that it emphasized the open world touring over the actual racing.

Like, don't get me wrong, World is still an awesome game, but it's not as good as MK8 when it comes to actual racing, at least not yet. There's a lot of kinks that need to be ironed out first (and at least one course designer who needs to be fired for butchering Choco Mountain the way they did, because WOW it's bad).

[river veldt]

relevant https://youtu.be/_43cq3DalZw?feature=shared

[green fulcrum]

Legendary

I love how he just gave up at that point

Just let it happen and just stopped after he finally got put back on the bridge the second time.

[quiet swift]

https://imgur.com/gallery/i-made-case-switch-2-now-i-just-need-switch-2-67aYGOz
Oh dang, this is cool.

[wind stump]

my main boiiii

[bitter stream]

The Dr is in

[craggy vine]

omg why is black ops 2 $95 on steam right now, I got it for like $30 on ps3 back in the day

I hate that we are now firmly in the generation where I am playing $120 for new big games

[little badger]

Update for cyberpunk has been delayed

[bitter stream]

oh darn, I'll share this post in the forum

thx blade

[wind stump]

W E W

get outbiked NERD
Who even plays Mario in Mario Kart

[river veldt]

me

[young creek]

I play Mario with the super mario sunshine costume

[river veldt]

the one with the hawaiian shirt and sunglasses ? that's a good one

[wind stump]

I'M FAST AS FUCK BOI

[visual hill]

CoD is rarely on significant sale, this applies to old games in the franchise too

old Battlefields are a much better deal in comparison

[craggy vine]

Hm I see

[craggy vine]

Also damn...

What is even in this update

[fickle garnet]

We don't even know

[visual hill]

Rubberbanding: Allow us to introduce ourselves.

I'm not sure how prone MK8D is to rubberbanding

it was a big issue in older Mario Karts

[wind stump]

wedd

[visual hill]

people are noticing it again now that MK64's PC port is out

[wind stump]

ayyy i remember Mario Kart DS

[wind stump]

Nintendo Ninjas: "They WHAT?"

[river veldt]

i have almost 10,000 coins

[river veldt]

i love the b dasher

[rancid herald]

is 10k a lot?

[river veldt]

idk

it feels like a lot

[rancid herald]

in terms of loafs of bread, please describe the purchasing power

[river veldt]

load of bread is like

5 bucks maybe ?

[visual hill]

none of HarbourMasters' works have been in trouble in 3.5 years of existence

[rancid herald]

like a truck load of bread?

[visual hill]

it's a very different story from say, the Link's Awakening DX PC port, which was shut down in a week (since it didn't require the original ROM to run)

[sacred grove]

Hytale was cancelled. https://hytale.com/news/2025/6/a-difficult-update-about-hytale

[rancid herald]

what is hytale?

[visual hill]

Minecraft-style game made by Hypixel owners

I am pretty surprised, it seems a ton of effort and money went into it

[bitter stream]

yeah, didn't they get picked up by Riot?

[visual hill]

it seems scope creep killed it

the Minecraft Forever of voxel games 😢

[astral steeple]

HUH???????

[rancid herald]

culture has become cursed

[wind stump]

[bitter stream]

Congratulations HC

[river veldt]

o shit

[sacred grove]

I feel bad for the people who actually got invested in its development

[visual hill]

same, game cancellations always hurt to see

they would hurt a bit less if developers were allowed to release their unfinished work, but it's very unlikely to happen in an official capacity

(JohnnyLeaker69420 to the rescue?)

[light gate]

Minecraft really was a lightning in a bottle. Cube World and now this…

[wind stump]

okay so Excitebike is lowkey a really fucking good track

High-key, actually

[cerulean herald]

its my fave in MK8D

[proud warren]

I... don't really play racing games, like at all

Most amount of time I've spent on a racing game was prolly SRB2K, and even then prolly only for like, 30-40 hours

[bitter stream]

fair enough. I enjoyed wipeout, but there's no high graphic PC equivalent as far as I'm aware. Ballistic NG exists, but is a retro sort of game

I suppose there's redout?

but that's a different kind of game even though it's an AG racer

[visual hill]

I have thousands of hours on Trackmania over 20 years

[proud warren]

There was a good full day I played some burnout paradise

But that's it, just 1 day

[visual hill]

racing games are in my top 3 favorite genres

[bitter stream]

how is burnout paradise Talc?

[proud warren]

Idr, it was like 5 years ago

[bitter stream]

fair lol

What keeps you coming back to trackmaina Calinou?

[proud warren]

I never win racing games cus all my irl friends are gods amongst men at racing games

[wind stump]

okay holy shit Mute City is STRESSFUL

[proud warren]

And playing a racing game solo feels kinda sad to me in all honesty

[bitter stream]

why? That's like saying Doom 2016 is sad because you fight AI lol

[proud warren]

(Primarily cus I'd lose to the ai there too)

[fickle garnet]

I'm bad at racing games

[proud warren]

I've played Mario kart a fair amount amongst friends, and I have never won a single round

[bitter stream]

Sure, but isn't it more important whether you had fun during the racing? as opposed to just winning?

[proud warren]

Well if that's the case i lose anyways

[bitter stream]

same here haha

[wind stump]

Baby Park is as chaotic as ever!

well, lacking in Giga Bowser Shels

[bitter stream]

I mean, depends how technical you want to get I suppose. I know there are different styles of player, maybe winning is just important for you to enjoy things, idk how you work.

there's a really good article on some psycographics of players by the MtG folks

[cerulean herald]

what are those?

[proud warren]

I don't care for winning that much, but I'd like to at least get a win every once in a while

[proud warren]

And not winning once feels kinda demoralizing

[bitter stream]

that's fair. What sort of games do you enjoy more?

[proud warren]

Roguelikes and fighting games

[wind stump]

WHEEEEEEE

[bitter stream]

oh nice! What sort of roguelikes? there's so many available these days

[proud warren]

flashes pfp take a guess

[bitter stream]

ummm... no idea

[river veldt]

it was Bowser's special item in Double Dash iirc

[wind stump]

tboi

[proud warren]

I'm an Isaac fanboy myself

[visual hill]

easy to play, hard to master

only 4 buttons required during gameplay

both keyboard and controller viable, even at top level

[bitter stream]

ah neat! it's a fun game, though for some reason in recent years I don't enjoy issac any more haha.
That's fair Calinou

[proud warren]

the online multiplayer update breathed new life into the game for me

[visual hill]

I've started playing FH4 last week during vacation, I have yet to play it online

I am mostly a singleplayer person for all those AAA games, I tend not to interact with online features unless I have to

[proud warren]

also lately I've been sucked into pokerogue

that's taken up my life for the past... 9 months I'd say

[bitter stream]

oh damn, if you're into pokemon, i've seen how that game becomes a black hole hahah

there's so many layers to that one

[proud warren]

funny you mention that, cus I got one in an earlier run

literally

[wind stump]

H O L E

[bitter stream]

heh, amazing

[cerulean herald]

did Gardevoir make that

[proud warren]

nah, ||Eternatus did||

[wind stump]

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/classified-data-once-again-leaked-on-war-thunder-forums/ womp womp, btw

[fickle garnet]

Of course

[bitter stream]

resets the "days since war thunder leaked classified data" to zero

[proud warren]

I really need to know how the fanbase of war thunder keeps getting their hands on classified information

[cerulean herald]

i think its more that the game attracts those that have access to that stuff

[proud warren]

ah yes, the ones who have access to it, as well as being petty as shit

er, petty might be the wrong word

[rancid herald]

a lot of people in the military end up having access to this sorts of information, I imagine. And probably civilian contractors as well, to a degree

it's a bit like how there's no security (really) on the computers of the Enterprise-D.... the only people who should be on the ship are trusted

[wind stump]

Bruh did Bayo just Witch Time my fucking PILL?

[hushed onyx]

It’s not actually that common. Common enough that people won’t look at you weird, but only about 20% of workers move from one metropolitan area to another in a decade.

[wind stump]

my favourite thing to do as Doc Mario is Dair the enemy and give them the ol' "one two, sent to Hell."

[proud warren]

the ol' 1 2, oatmeal buckle their shoe

[wind stump]

https://youtu.be/GD1S1GMOhtg

this is exactly how i play Strive.

like, you think i'm joking. i'm not. my friend has a replay saved and we were both bamboozled at the wrist breaking speed I was smashing that controller with

Who is the bigger idiot?

"YOU ARE GOING TO BRAZIL."

[glad girder]

There are measures in place but it’s the responsibility of people who access information to safeguard that information. And there will always be a better idiot

I ran into a Navy Seabee in VRchat who was talking about his security clearance to a Chinese national

[glad girder]

:c I’ve gotten burnt out on Minecraft and it’s constrained that exist for a variety of reasons, and I was hoping this would be an answer. I guess not

[arctic fern]

https://www.vintagestory.at/

try this

[bitter stream]

no, vintage story is very different to mc, i don't think it's a replacement

[arctic fern]

its minecraft but with much more in-depth mechanics

[wind stump]

Vintage Story devs plant another £5 in Mega's account

[arctic fern]

look i love the game

[glad girder]

If it makes sense, I wish Minecraft carried on its progression with new ores, tools, armor, and dimensions + more complex stuff instead of its weird updates where they add a single mob and maybe a biome

[arctic fern]

modern minecraft is wide, not deep

[bitter stream]

I wonder, did you ever try modded MC rad?

there's a lot of depth there to add, if that's what you're after

[glad girder]

And half the time the mobs are absolutely mid. And then their design and mechanics don’t feel like they fit the ethos of expanding creativity and the sandbox

I have but it’s a pain dealing with modded Minecraft

I’m low time low patience with games so I rarely mod them

[bitter stream]

that's fair I suppose. Launchers make it easier, but it's still time consuming

Create and relevant mods are so cool though

[glad girder]

My main struggle now is thirty fucking million keybinds

[bitter stream]

is there a particular mod that requires a lot of keybinds?

oh actually

Terraria, have you played/seen that game?

it's 2d, but it has that progression gameplay

and good boss fights

[glad girder]

No, but a lot of mod packs today like to feature a lot of mods. I might check out terraria but I like 3d

[arctic fern]

what would you want from minecraft these days?

[glad girder]

Guess I’m getting vintage story soon

[arctic fern]

terraria is fantastic but there is significantly more combat in it than MC

[glad girder]

Sandbox plus some deeper mechanics for farming and crafting and exploration

[arctic fern]

oh

[glad girder]

Most of what I did in Minecraft was strip mine and build castles and towers

[arctic fern]

yeah you want VS lol

[bitter stream]

wait, did we lose our colour? F

[glad girder]

And I wish there were more advanced mechanics for NPCs and automation and farming and stuff

[arctic fern]

VS has farming that requires you to manage nutrients in the soil, if you want good deposits of ore you have to prospect around and look for high deposits, forcing exploration

and some plants dont grow in some biomes! you want to find every type of crop? you gotta explore south to the equator where its hot, nor north where its cold

[bitter stream]

I"d recommend watching a bit of someones early playthrough of VS or a review etc, just so you know what you're getting into with it. Game is... obtuse?

[arctic fern]

thats not a bad idea tbf

[glad girder]

Yeah

[gaunt marten]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/252410/SteamWorld_Dig/

Steam

SteamWorld Dig

A digging adventure in a Steam-powered Frontier…

SteamWorld Dig is an action-adventure game that mixes exploration, puzzle-solving, and mining mechanics.

Set in a western steampunk-inspired world, you control a robot named Rusty, who embarks on a journey to uncover the secrets of a long-abandoned underground town. As you dig through the…

Price

$0.89

Recommendations

5829

Metacritic

76

▶ Play video

100% off

Highly recommended

[bitter stream]

I can back the recommend, it's fun

[gaunt marten]

2 is a lot better, but 1 is enjoyable and unique

There's also a huge sale on 2, https://store.steampowered.com/app/571310/SteamWorld_Dig_2/

Steam

SteamWorld Dig 2

Adventure Waits Below the Surface...
SteamWorld Dig 2 takes you on a platform mining adventure forged in Metroidvania flames. When an old trading town is struck by mysterious earthquakes, it’s up to a lone steambot and her unlikely companion to uncover what trembling terrors lie beneath.

Dig your way underground and explore vivid worlds rid…

Price

$1.19

Recommendations

4449

Metacritic

85

▶ Play video

[bitter stream]

oh neat! what's 2 like compared to 1?

[gaunt marten]

More metroidvania, more complex story, better puzzles

Bigger world, too!

[bitter stream]

neat! I'll try it out

[arctic fern]

oh yeah both are great games, but 2 very much felt like a refined 1

[gaunt marten]

2 has a fun bug where you can time your jumps to get a lot of height and sequence break to get to late areas early

||https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1150429834|| contains spoilers

[visual hill]

Bayo can Witch Time almost anything which can make some interactions hilarious

[river veldt]

have any of you guys played Far Cry 3 if so is it any good ?

[gaunt marten]

No

[river veldt]

oh

[visual hill]

not yet but I plan to, I often hear it's the best modern Far Cry game in the series

(modern as in, "any game after Far Cry 2")

OG Far Cry is basically proto Crysis

[river veldt]

that's what ive always heard too

[visual hill]

Far Cry 2 is very much its own thing

[river veldt]

which ones have you played ?

[visual hill]

and Far Cry 3 and later are the Ubisoft tower formula

I've only played the first one

I'm playing Just Cause 2 these days, which turns 15 this year

it still looks quite good today, although the HUD was clearly designed for 720p displays so it's pretty blurry at 4K

[fickle garnet]

I love Just Cause 2

[river veldt]

ah

[visual hill]

that reminds me... I've done my part: https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Just_Cause_2&type=revision&diff=1608118&oldid=1581544

I stumbled upon this issue while moving my setup from the Ally X to the desktop PC

the desktop PC ran a lot worse than the Ally (!), because of a single setting 🙂

[river veldt]

i think i'm gonna try Cyberpunk again

[visual hill]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/667293056277544960/1386080684572934214/Forza_Horizon_4_6_21_2025_10_29_23_PM.png?ex=685b0abb&is=6859b93b&hm=e797c41597259b31e1492492e8cfafb1d190bc70f1425aa371c0e20d1d821659&=
I also moved Forza Horizon 4 over and it runs butter smooth

for a 6.5 year old game, it still looks pretty impressive

the rainy UK setting certainly does the heavy lifting, it's easier to make it look good compared to sunnier weather

[quiet swift]

Far cry 3 as far as I can remember was fun. I very much bounced off 2, it just felt off. But I don't really remember the story for either. In hindsight, 4 and 5 are definitely very formulaic, though I think 5 was much better than 4. The story stands out very much and is actually quite disturbing in a "y'know, this doesn't feel far fetched" type of way

[river veldt]

i know 4 has the famous ending where you can just wait for Pagan Min to come back at the very beginning

[quiet swift]

I think 5 also did similar, actually

This one being 5

(especially nowadays it feels extremely relevant...)

[toxic seal]

Every FarCry since 3 has had the "technically beat it in 15 minutes" thing

[river veldt]

oooh yeah

very Branch Davidians lol

well i might try out 3 since it's on sale rn

same with 5 those are the two that interest me

[green fulcrum]

It was relevant when it was first released and is even more relevant today.

[river veldt]

the cult flag above the US good grief lmao

[green fulcrum]

Say what you will about the gameplay, but holy crap the villains in that game are genuinely creepy and quite possibly the most realistic ones of the entire franchise.

Because people like them do exist.

[green fulcrum]

Look closely at the stars on the US flag.

[toxic seal]

Spoilers for multiple FarCry games:
FarCry 4 - ||Wait 15 minutes in the room Pagan Min tells you to wait in, he returns and you scatter your mother's ashes together.||
FarCry 5 - ||Wait long enough (I think also 15 minutes) and don't arrest Joseph and you and the other police officers leave, commenting that you will only be killed if you went through with the arrest.||
FarCry 6 - ||Actually have to play for about an hour through the prologue stuff but once you secure a boat you can choose to sail right the fuck to Miami where you are then seen relaxing on a beach while a news story plays on a radio about the civil war in Yara escalating.||

[river veldt]

oh my god haha

this image is so unsubtle i love it

[river veldt]

the last one is kinda hilarious

[green fulcrum]

You say that, and yet there are, ahem, "certain people" who just didn't get that the game was talking about them.

[river veldt]

"fuck this i'm going to Miami"

[green fulcrum]

Totally fair, lol. I would too, if it wasn't in Florida.

[toxic seal]

Miami is one of the more... tolerable areas of Florida

[green fulcrum]

On the one hand, fight a civil war. On the other hand...Florida. Tough call.

[toxic seal]

Occasionally in FC6 you hear propaganda speeches from the dictator that sound way too fucking familiar

One about "tolerance being a poison" stands out to me

[green fulcrum]

"Sin of empathy" and all that

[teal sonnet]

My brother in christ hytale got canceled before silksong

https://www.engadget.com/gaming/pc/riot-games-shuts-down-hypixel-studios-and-ends-development-of-hytale-190435047.html

12 years of development

[river veldt]

i was gonna make a snarky comment like "rip the minecraft killer" but didn't know how to make it sound less snarky

[teal sonnet]

I am just like

How in the actual fuck in 12 years and unlimited riot games money

They did not manage to pull out at least a playable beta of this thing

[river veldt]

yeah we never got a demo or anything did we ?

[teal sonnet]

Nothing.

a trailer, some dev updates posts

that is all

[river veldt]

they should have done the MC strat of releasing the game and then adding features through updates

[teal sonnet]

If they had released absolutely anything, a pre-alpha or anything

They would not have been cancelled

The fuck they been doing for 12 years

[toxic seal]

Money laundering? I dunno

[river veldt]

did they start in 2013 ? wikipedia says it started development in 2015

[teal sonnet]

The trailer itself, is 6yo

https://youtu.be/o77MzDQT1cg?si=K-3Nrg-ZWoucBnrZ

[gaunt marten]

I thought Hypixel Studios was receiving only a small amount of money from Riot, and they didn't have the authority to shut it down

[river veldt]

In July 2024, Hytale's developers reported that the game was being migrated to a new engine, a process that was expected to be complete by the end of the year.

man what

[teal sonnet]

They started to develop the game in java

Then they migrated to c++

That is probably what killed the game

Having to start pretty much from 0

[gaunt marten]

11 years into development is the best time to do a full pivot

[teal sonnet]

I need to say, this sounds like horrible management

Please netflix make a documentary out of this

We need the story

Someone cant just work on someone for a decade and not having a hell story to tell

[minor plover]

man the Descent:Underground kickstarter I backed over 10 years ago is still "in development" by a whole new team

a team that nobody trusts at all

I got mentioned in an article about the early access game back in 2015. I swear it was about 6 months away at that point, and then it just ... never got closer. https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/10/descent-underground-recaptures-that-descent-multiplayer-magic/

original devs got really caught up in some nonsense that was making the gameplay worse for no reason, community lost momentum, they brought in a shady publisher for funding, the shady publisher kept trying to change the scope (we later found out they did that with all of their projects to force breaches so they could cheaply buy them out), eventually the shady publisher lost a court case and then lost multiple followup cases, and the publisher ended up buying out the game at a relatively fair rate. And now they don't know what they're doing to finish it.

[green fulcrum]

Aaaaand there she goes!

"Minecraft killer" my ass.

It is a shame though, I was hoping they'd release a lot more of the soundtrack. It was rather nice.

[velvet fiber]

i'm having buggy window reflections on rdr2

[arctic fern]

Anyway play vintage story
https://www.vintagestory.at/
Yes I am an asshole

[bitter stream]

thought t his would be of interest : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToO7IeVx1y8

[visual hill]

I suppose they wanted to migrate because of console support

(if your game uses Java, that more or less guarantees it'll never be able to run on a console)

Riot has been investing more in console support lately (e.g. Valorant), so it kind of checks out

[slim thorn]

true, though at that point isn't it far easier to use an existing engine with console support than to have to write the console-specific code in any language?

[visual hill]

yes, by far

creating a console port for an existing PC-only engine is a ton of work, especially for Playstation where there is no standard graphics API you can use

[static bluff]

That's a good one!

[little badger]

New MetaQuest

[eager bane]

do they expect users to...stream games on their xbox VR headset? Or is there more to it?

[little badger]

yes

[obsidian salmon]

i like how you can just tell how two of my smash mains are almost the complete opposite thing

||it's jigglypuff on the left and dedede on the right||

[cunning galleon]

I'm tired boss

It's like 20% finished

[visual hill]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/252410/SteamWorld_Dig/ is free to claim until June 26

Steam

SteamWorld Dig

A digging adventure in a Steam-powered Frontier…

SteamWorld Dig is an action-adventure game that mixes exploration, puzzle-solving, and mining mechanics.

Set in a western steampunk-inspired world, you control a robot named Rusty, who embarks on a journey to uncover the secrets of a long-abandoned underground town. As you dig through the…

Price

$0.89

Recommendations

5840

Metacritic

76

▶ Play video

[wind stump]

i've been seeing Rusty a lot in game quizzes lately...

[river veldt]

steam summer sale is soon

[wind stump]

WHY IS THE HARDEST TRACK IN THE GAME FOLLOWED BY SOMETHING SO MUCH EASIER

[river veldt]

SNES Rainbow Road is my favorite track of all timr

[wind stump]

n64 rainbow road sweeps

no argument

[young creek]

will Deltarune go on sale?

[proud warren]

The game officially came out less than a month ago, I don't think it'll be on sale

Then again, Toby Fox is Toby Fox

[green fulcrum]

Is it just me, or are the third and fourth chapters of Deltarune not getting nearly as much attention or hype as the previous two?

Like, I've heard absolutely nothing about them, but Spamton was all over the Internet instantly.

[proud warren]

Tbf, the newer chapters are a lot longer

I think all it needs is just some more time to blow up to the previous chapters hype

[young creek]

A lot of people are probably in the same boat as me that they havent played it yet because of the awkward launch time

[proud warren]

[river veldt]

it topped the steam charts and had over 100,000 concurrent players when 3+4 came out lol

[green fulcrum]

Yet I've heard nothing

[gaunt marten]

I'm waiting for the game to come out

[cerulean herald]

could depend on where you go to, and the likelihood of exposure
what spaces do you usually look at, other than this server? (especially since everything deltarune is contained in the respective thread)

[green fulcrum]

I check Reddit very often. Barely a peep from any of the gaming subreddits.

[cerulean herald]

Huh. while I myself dont rly visit general gaming subs (they can be such cesspools)
i just use more specific places, like the deltarune subreddit

but it does kinda seem like Ch.3-4 arent quite as big/influential as Ch.2, but the community still seems rather active despite that

[visual hill]

I hear a fair amount about it in furry circles; other than that, I don't see a lot of mentions of it

maybe because for many people, Deltarune felt like it was out already? I'm just guessing

its development has been ongoing for almost 7 years now, so maybe some people along the way dropped

[visual hill]

player counts aren't strictly related to hype/media attention, if you look at Steam's top games, you'll regularly see popular games that you don't hear a lot about

(and the opposite, when a game garners attention for all the wrong reasons)

[cerulean herald]

I think it could also be due to the nature of games that come out in chapters or parts, it'll get a bit of attention at launch but the following chapters won't make as big of a splash as the earlier ones (regardless of quality)

[slim thorn]

it's weird how often we have to keep reminding people that news/media coverage and player counts are only weakly realted

[slim thorn]

I think there's a decent chance for the final part to get higher coverage, and also pull in all the players who were turned off by an "unfinished" game, but yeah by the time that happens most potential players will already be aware the thing exists so there's not as much to say about it, especially without spoilers

[visual hill]

I still haven't started playing Undertale

[gaunt marten]

Yeah it's still in development

For part 7 they will have a Homestuck crossover where you join forces to fight Five Nights at Freddy's characters

[river veldt]

maybe it's cause i seek it out but i see lots of Deltarune talk

idk

[river veldt]

r/gaming does suck a lot

[slim thorn]

indeed, part of the dynamic is that after a thing has reached its audience, that audience makes its own spaces to discuss the thing, so people not already seeking it out naturally stop hearing about it

another part is that most of us do not discuss every single game or show we engage with; unless you've been watching me on Steam you probably don't know I've been steadily chipping away at Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night the last week or so

[gaunt marten]

Only the remarkable games

[river veldt]

oh my goddd this level is so hard in Halo 2

[slim thorn]

do you have any idea how little that narrows it down

[river veldt]

it's the last one i think

[gaunt marten]

Me when I played every level starting from the middle of the game

[river veldt]

it has a bunch of banshees and you have to escort the big scarab

[slim thorn]

ah, yes that's the last one

and that escort part is very near the end of it

IME the banshee parts are mostly a test of caution/patience; you can pick off everything from a safe distance away but it's not exactly obvious how close is too close to allow the AI to gang up on you

[river veldt]

so is there a reason 343 Industries decided to name themselves after the bad guy

i know they're halo studios now which fits a lot better

[slim thorn]

he's just doing his job

(you haven't even seen what 343 does in the 3rd game )

[river veldt]

i read that Bungie based Guilty Spark's personality on See Threepio which is interesting

[slim thorn]

I can see that

[river veldt]

also i'm now realizing that Stampy (a yter i watch) named two of his Minecraft dogs after Halo characters. The Arbiter and Guilty Bark (which is hilarious)

[green fulcrum]

I mean, I don't hang out in gaming subreddits either (I don't even post on Reddit anymore, just browse it), but sometimes they hold gaming news and that's what I check for.

[river veldt]

oh hey this one had a final boss

i hope i can use the hammer in the next game

[slim thorn]

you can

[river veldt]

flames

holy shit Arbi is tall

[slim thorn]

Elites in general are stupidly tall by human standards

[river veldt]

MASTER CHIEF SAID THE THING

[slim thorn]

though it's easy to miss if you spend all your time looking at a Spartan like MC

"finish the fight"?

[river veldt]

ye

that was hype

[slim thorn]

man, that was such an insane marketing campaign at the time

one of the few times I was 100% on board with the hype and (this is gonna sound ridiculous to you younguns but) 100% rewarded for it

[river veldt]

THAT WAS THE END ????

[slim thorn]

standard trilogy rules: 1 wraps up everything neatly because they don't know if there will ever be a 2, but 2 and 3 get greenlit together so 2 has a free pass to be all setup and resolve absolutely nothing

(ftr 3 does resolve everything)

[river veldt]

Star Wars style i suppose

[slim thorn]

also a lot of other movie and game trilogies

[river veldt]

imagine if they never made any more movies after Empire and it was just left on that cliffhanger

that would suck

[green fulcrum]

They messed this formula up royally with 4, 5, and Infinite.

[slim thorn]

tbf 4 and 5 arguably are following it, it's more like Infinite said "nah, let's throw all that out and start over"

[river veldt]

.......did i miss something important ? Chief ended 2 on a ship but 3 starts with him falling from the sky

[slim thorn]

nope, he just fell off the ship

I admit it's not the clearest transition it could be