It's not what made me build a PC, but it was honestly a part of it
#general gaming
sour hill
It's just so irritating
And I don't like feeling stressed that I'm not getting my money's worth when I don't feel like playing anything one month
untold vigil
Bingo yeah
Even things like FF14 which I can sorta get behind it just. . . argh
But these types of things? no excuse imo lol
sour hill
"luckily" MMOs like that don't interest me in the first place
harsh kestrel
EA was goated back in the 2000s. These days, they're the very definition of greed, and both of those things right there shows it
astral steeple
lol that just reminded me how Apex has a 300 dollar deathbox skin
for their Final Fantasy collab
harsh kestrel
So was it confirmed that the million was a million copies and not a million dollars?
Oh my God, it was even higher than that. It was two million copies sold
harsh kestrel
I don't even know with these people anymore
visual hill
Flitter's wallet in shambles
wind stump
SAME
tho
I fear mod support is going to be sparse for a few months post-launch 
not to mention what would happen to the StS1 mod scene
obviously i don't want StS2 to suck, the modding scene would be amazing on a new engine that could handle EVEN MORE MODS
NO I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM I CAN UNINSTALL ANY TIME I WANT
148 mods
random steppe
Holy shit, do they have money for art now?
wind stump
I mean, StS is a BIG player in the roguelite deckbuilder
bold sonnet
i started new DLC for Witcher and now I have to fight..... spiders 
Vampires, strigas, devils, ghosts.. But please not spiders 
thorny loom
So it was cancelled but never in development?
arctic fern
You can't cancel something you never started
arctic fern
It sounds like they never planned to start
little badger
https://fxtwitter.com/Wario64/status/1778122052387455278
Yup just seen that
bold sonnet
Vampires, strigas, devils, ghosts.. But please not spiders <:Twicrying:957453491...
I'm standing in front of the cave trying to bring up courage, I can hear the sounds they're making 
slim thorn
as good as the DS remake was, stopping at just the one is probably the right call; I think the survival horror remake trend already peaked with RE4 and DS, and any more are just going to come off as lame compared to "actually new" games
slim thorn
plus, can you imagine Gamers ™️ being super hyped for an RE five remake? 
wind stump
I would
slim thorn
tbf there are quite a few games that were eh on release but had good ideas and could plausibly be remade into something on par with the best in the series, like, I dunno, RE Zero and CV
but the hype and profit is definitely going to be lower for "average" consumers who are just vaguely aware of RE4 being a big deal and that's it
thorny loom
If rumors are to be believed. The next one maybe a code veronica remake
At least based on the title
quiet swift
Speaking of the dead space remake, I still have three codes to use on Origin 
(in exchange for something on my steam wishlist 
)
slim thorn
well, that one's so obvious that a "rumor" is guaranteed to exist whether or not there's any basis for it, so it's hardly worth mentioning
it's like saying there are rumors Half Life 3 might exist someday
astral steeple
You know what game really needs a remake/remaster?
thorny loom
Command and conquer 3
astral steeple
Goated game
thorny loom
river veldt
plus, can you imagine Gamers ™️ being super hyped for an RE _five_ remake? <:rdw...
which one is RE5
does Chris punch the boulder in that one
light gate
obviously i don't want StS2 to *suck*, the modding scene would be amazing on a n...
||this twisted game needs to be reset||
light gate
https://fxtwitter.com/Wario64/status/1778122052387455278
It wouldn’t surprise me, it also wouldn’t surprise me to see EA lying about it. None would surprise me after the absolute manure that they did on the Command and Conquer series.
thorny loom
Side note. Ea play is with game pass.
So if you want that just sub to game pass ultimate
light gate
It wouldn’t surprise me, it also wouldn’t surprise me to see EA lying about it. ...
And I am glad Total Biscuit didn’t get to see the absolute kerfuffle when they announced the first mobile (not the red alert spin off) C&C game. It would’ve destroyed his heart.
god
Rest in peace Total Biscuit.
quiet swift
Or the absolute filth that was the dungeon keeper mobile game
light gate
Well Dungeon Keeper only had two games, so yeah it was disappointing.
Its just the C&C situation was horrendous, it was like getting kneecapped and then spit on. After the dumpster for Generals 2 cancelation and Tiberian Twilight being terrible… it sucked just seeing mobile games.
Not to mention how a few EA employees leaked what originally was a new Tiberium FPS game to be accepted, only to get immediately canned when the reception of the trailer was good because it leaked.
It was so fucking weird seeing EA just… make the worst absolute decisions for a franchise that was so popular back then…
Eugh. 
quiet swift
I don't know the sales numbers but the C&C remake/remaster or whatever that was that came out a few years ago was really well received
So you'd think they'd capitalize on that, but aparently not
Heck, there's an RTS revival coming, there's like 10 new RTS (not 4x or x-com or whatever some idiots say is rts, but ACTUAL rts games a la starcraft/C&C etc) coming out this/next year
light gate
The problem is that they want to make C&C a live service game.
They don’t want another shoot off.
And honestly, all of the ‘new rts’ games don’t look appealing at all. They focus so much more on the game mechanics than the actual universe they’re making. Like it just looks… idk… odd.
Like I tried Iron Harvest and so far it just feels like a clunky RTS with Commandos slapped in.
I guess I just want FMVs.
Idk
quiet swift
Yeah that one seems iffy, but I don't mean that one
light gate
Even if you don’t mean that one, I don’t think anyone will match the simplicity of C&C. Idk
quiet swift
Check Tempest Rising.
light gate
I did see it, does not look like my kind.
visual hill
obviously i don't want StS2 to *suck*, the modding scene would be amazing on a n...
chances are StS 2 is made with Godot, since its studio is sponsoring its development and made communication about that last year
we don't know for sure though, no splash screen was shown 😦
light gate
Check Tempest Rising.
It looks like Red Alert 3 but somehow more robotic industrial, with a serious color filter.
Its not appealing idk.
quiet swift
Yeah the filter i find a bit iffy, but I did play the demo. Some gripes/issues but overall it's the cloest I've played to something C&C-ish
wind stump
chances are StS 2 is made with Godot, since its studio is sponsoring its develop...
Is Godot more like, moddable than Java?
like can i load 140+ mods without it eating 4gb of ram
light gate
It probably is Unity.
quiet swift
The ones that I know of: Tempest Rising, ZeroSpace, Terminator: Dark Fate - Defiance, Fragile Existence, Industrial Annihilation, Dust Front, Homeworld 3, Godsworn, Sanctuary: Shattered Sun, Stormgate, D.O.R.F, Line War
light gate
Homeworld 3 seems like Homeworld 2 but with less Homeworld 2 looks.
quiet swift
The heck does that even mean. 
light gate
It looks more Homeworld 1
Homeworld 1 aesthetic
But it has the mechanics of 2.
Which its okay I guess.
quiet swift
It had controls issues which made the demo reception rather negative, but they're changing that hence the release delay. They made a blog post a monthish ago outlining all the changes they're doing, and they look good
quiet swift
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
quiet swift
This one seems unrelated to warhammer 😛 but I get what you mean
Personally i'm most interested in Sanctuary - since it's trying to recapture Supreme Commander as a playstyle
light gate
Like easy lore to follow, simple concepts, cool villains, nothing so crazy.
quiet swift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhFYmYIY_DI pulled some of those names from here, though not all are what i'd call pure rts (some city builders) and from other articles i've seen
light gate
But yeah this is an aesthetic thing.
quiet swift
slim thorn
so since I never got into and know nothing about RTS... is this still true or did things change recently?
Genryu — 01/06/2024 11:46 PM
There is only one genre that can play the "players don't play our games, even if we make them" card and that's Real Time StrategyAll the others are coping
quiet swift
It's stil kinda true, mostly because no one has really attempted to make an rts game in years because the industry as a whole considered them "dead"
And then Microsoft made AOE 4 and that sold really well
thorny loom
Rts kinda got a resurge with that and indie studios
quiet swift
Yeah, this resurgence is very, very recent and I have no idea what really spawned it
light gate
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2388620/DORF_RealTime_Strategic_Conflict/ , t...
Huh
It looks better
quiet swift
Other than AOE4 i can't really think of another RTS that came out recently - as in, an actual RTS a la C&C and starcraft, not other games that are labeled "strategy" but are 4x, or xcom strategy, or city builders
quiet swift
It looks better
Closest to Red Alert, to the point of making me worried about EA lawyers
light gate
A bit too much graphics but…
Nah its legally distinct
Too legally distinct lmao
I guess its okay
Doesn’t have me screaming tho lol
quiet swift
Hmm. "They Are Billions" is kinda rts but doesn't quite fit - more of a base defense thing with rts aspirations. Dune: Spice Wars, but that doesn't seem to be pure RTS either
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2607060/From_Glory_To_Goo/ just got to early access but also a they are billions style
light gate
Ehh
quiet swift
Ah, the previous most recent RTS i can think of is this: https://store.steampowered.com/app/290790/Grey_Goo/
light gate
I think I’m starting to see the problems.
quiet swift
ANd it's from fucking 2015
light gate
I think the reason why none of these resonate is that they make building bases more sophisticated.
Like way more.
Like there are modules, features, and other things.
thorny loom
Sanctuary shattered dawn looks to be probably the most hopeful of a rts resurge
Given its basically supreme commander 3
quiet swift
Sanctuary shattered dawn looks to be probably the most hopeful of a rts resurge
I'd say the "top" are probably Homeworld 3, Stormgate, Tempest Rising and Sanctuary
thorny loom
Yeah that
quiet swift
https://store.steampowered.com/app/507490/Ashes_of_the_Singularity_Escalation/ ah, another one. 2016
thorny loom
Stormgate looks like a starcraft spin off
thorny loom
I should replay it
quiet swift
Stormgate looks like a starcraft spin off
Well, yeah. Ex starcraft devs and all.
ZeroSpace also looks like a starcraft spinoff
But yeah. RTS is probably still my favorite genre so I am totally on board this resurgence
slim thorn
as the clueless outsider: what is a "pure RTS", if most of these aren't it?
quiet swift
Have you played C&C or Starcraft at all? Or age of empires?
slim thorn
I think I played Age of Mythology once and Star Trek: Armada once waaaay back in the 00's, and I had a phase of watching a lot of SC2 tournaments but that's it
quiet swift
SC2's a pure RTS. Basically, you have a base, units to get resources, build buildings to get better units/better buildings, and use that to defeat your enemy
light gate
Its probably my nostalgia goggles really affecting me, but idk how to describe 'pure rts' because that is different for every rts fan.
Some love overcomplicated rts games that make you do five hundred things at the same time, others prefer more simple rts games (like me) that you build a base and fight the enemy.
quiet swift
I think Dawn of War 1 was a pure RTS. Then it evolved into not being one, since it had that stupid... checkpoint capture thing?
light gate
Like Age of Empires has like four resources. Food, Wood, Rock, and Gold.
gaunt marten
A pure RTS is basically an RTS without twists that change the genre up
quiet swift
It as in DoW 2 and 3 or whatever
light gate
C&C is like just tiberium, or gold if Red Alert.
gaunt marten
Like Tooth and Tail
light gate
Tooth... and tail?
quiet swift
Age of Mythology would count, yes
light gate
Yep
light gate
I'm not sure what is happening on the trailer.
slim thorn
I really wish these Steam videos worked in embds
quiet swift
Ixrec: the "death of rts" is a popular enough genre on youtube too 
quiet swift
One problem I see with them is the whole wanting to be an Esport, and the focus on APM
hushed onyx
I think Dawn of War 1 was a pure RTS. Then it evolved into not being one, since ...
It wasn't really stupid, it was meant to discourage turtling. DoW II (I don't know about III) wasn't really an RTS at all, it was an RTT or tactical RPG more like.
quiet swift
Screw that, lemme turtle. Love doing that in supreme commander
hushed onyx
I always liked RTTs better anyway
gaunt marten
Tooth and Tail is definitely for RTS fans and doesn't make a great intro to the genre because of how difficult it is (unless you play with friends of similar skill)
hushed onyx
Screw that, lemme turtle. Love doing that in supreme commander <:rdsnrk:58778032...
Ironically from what I recall turtling was kind of a bad strategy in principle because defenses were less cost-effective than offensive units (and both counted towards your unit cap...!)
slim thorn
I think for me my experience of AoM and ST:A left me with just a "that was fun I guess but I have no desire to play more" (and in retrospect, that's because I never understood what was going on well enough to do better than just a-move)
and then all of my RTS exposure after that was about multiplayer or the competitive scene which of course had no chance of ever being a thing I'd enjoy attempting
quiet swift
Yeah, the multiplayer aspect is very meeeeh
I think actually these days Starcraft 2 is free? Though I'd say play 1 first, for the story. SC1's still pretty fantastic story wise
hushed onyx
My first exposure to RTSes was to the Age of Empires demo, which I played a lot of back in the day, and which not incidentally got me interested in the Hittites.
quiet swift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCcg8XUh3tY and you can officially get it in carbot style!
slim thorn
I never understood what was going on well enough to do better than just a-move
actually, expand that to every kind of strategy or management or RPG or game with a huge meta-game emphasis that I've ever attempted, even some action games with too many strategy/RPG elements
quiet swift
My first exposure to RTSes was to the *Age of Empires* **demo**, which I played ...
I've been playing RTS since C&C 1. I think I played dune 2 after that but that's when I started
hushed onyx
Although I realized I liked the missions where you have a fixed army more (i.e., more RTT-type missions), and later on full-on grand strategy games when I wanted a more internal development-type focus.
I didn't play C&C properly for a loooooong time, and never really got into it.
(Somewhat the same way that I never played MoO2 until long after I had played a fair bit of MoO3 and didn't really care for it)
The only C&C I ever actually beat was Generals and the expansion, I think...
quiet swift
"A few years ago, another video said that the majority of RTS players wanted a campaign, while the companies focused in multiplayers games. The companies are more interested in catering to the vocal multiplayer competitive crowd than to the core RTS audience."
slim thorn
Although I realized I liked the missions where you have a fixed army more (i.e.,...
yeah, the closest I've come to liking any "strategy" game or "RPG" qua game is when they start approaching puzzle games, like Fire Emblem often does
light gate
"A few years ago, another video said that the majority of RTS players wanted a c...
that is where the money is
lol
hushed onyx
> I never understood what was going on well enough to do *better* than just a-mo...
See this is quite the opposite for me, I usually want the management and don't really care that much about the action elements.
(Although speaking of Supreme Commander I turtled a lot too The SimCity runs deep in my blood...)
slim thorn
at some point different genres of games just click for different people
quiet swift
In Total Annihilation, my friends and I had a "rule" we'd do a times where no combat unit could be built... except the Krogoth.
Basically you turtled the entire game and tried to spam mecha godzillas
gaunt marten
I have the most fun in the RTS genre when I'm winning with almost no challenge
So games that have an easy difficulty or aren't pure RTS are fun for me
light gate
i had no friends that played C&C so I just pretended to have an enemy by killing my own units lol.
gaunt marten
(see red alert 2, Mindustry)
true maple
Man, i remember total annihilation
quiet swift
I was actualy an absolute rat in Total Annihilation - I knew the "trick" to make the big bertha shoot like 50% further than normal
true maple
I played that in class in high school nearly every day in my junior year
slim thorn
so... perhaps this is a bias from the genres I do like, but isn't "it's only fun if it's easy" kind of a backhanded compliment? like saying the game stops being fun the moment it tries to have any depth or challenge, and is thus doomed to only stay fun until you get bored of doing the easy obvious thing?
light gate
Well if you like 'challenge' then you mean the absolute grind that is to quickly make units to protect your base because the other player will absolutely not rush to skip the 'challenge'.
gaunt marten
No I just happen to have personal issues with the stress that comes from losing a high-speed, complex game
slim thorn
ah
gaunt marten
In a game where I can pause and manage my emotions I do just fine
light gate
Most new rts's from what I see just add unique roadblocks from getting the best units, and while I understand they want to make the game 'more exciting', rts's are already fast and having to think 5x more about what this new upgrade does is annoying.
gaunt marten
In an RTS I crumble like a house of cards
gaunt marten
(that's why I prefer grand strategy games)
light gate
Most new rts's from what I see just add unique roadblocks from getting the best ...
And honestly, its a reason why C&C3 / RA3 are my absolute limit. They're fun but its so annoying having to 'wait for the unit to be build' only for said unit not to be at their max potential.
Cuz 'oh you need to get the upgrade by building the fancy tech structure and then performing the upgrade in the tech structure building'.
like... bruh
quiet swift
That dates from warcraft 1/2 though?
light gate
I never liked Warcraft so.
Starcraft is also similar with this issue, I always try to set my mindset into 'I'm gonna finish a campaign' and then get tired and give up.
quiet swift
I always just go for campaings in RTS myself
light gate
Like gee I died because the enemy rushed me.
I coulda rushed too but I had to get these upgrades to make my units better.
Age of Empires doesn't have this issue mostly because you have to properly have an economy running, build defences and scouts, and then slowly make your army properly. You can rush but rushing is only ideal once your economy is stable.
Because rushing with a bad economy is the riskiest thing you could do in AoE.
you could win, but if the player has said upgrades... 
AoE literally encourages slower plays, but people still try to rush them lmao.
random steppe
Catching up on that tirple I initiative that there was earlier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCdAEMpywKg
V-rising 1.0 is coming boys!!!
Also, if you were ever interested, keep in mind that they will up the price once it's out in 1.0
It's an excellent game, I played to completion twice in solo, don't even need the multiplayer component for it to be awesome (even tho it's pretty nice to play with friends)
quiet swift
quiet swift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxVwoMZ5OnQ a longer video with rts, though some are 'base buildings'. A few names i hadn't seen yet
fickle garnet
Does anyone know if the game Death Must Die is good?
quiet swift
It tries to be Hades-ish with the gods talking to you but it's not particularly engaging conversation. T'is also quite hard to beat but fun enough
gaunt marten
I think Nightmare Mode in Slice and Dice is a llittle unbalanced https://i.imgur.com/E7aoEpm.png
Really? https://i.imgur.com/BJlkuhX.png
"If you do literally anything, you die."
gaunt marten
Cheat and get it anyway
gaunt marten
Oh yeah you're on the switch
I was thinking you could use a save editor
Or import a pre-finished save
I definitely would not wish Jacob and Esau Delirium on anyone
gaunt marten
grave tide
....
grand cargo
WOOOOO
YEAH BABY
gaunt marten
75% on slay the spire. This is not a drill!
Journey is also heavily discounted https://store.steampowered.com/app/638230/Journey/
slim thorn
wow, that is certainly a steal for anyone who hasn't played it yet
dense crypt
interactive art museum
hushed onyx
Alas, still Windows-only, and I still don't have a Windows machine 
light gate
My playstation collection is growing rather quickly! Lots of sales.
Can’t wait to play Signalis and Destroy all humans!
Had to remove two blocks because they looked like full games with the icon, but they were demos.
Was New Super Lucky Tales, and Sea of Stars.
Also have Spoderman 2 but honestly I was overwhelmed with how much in that game is in.
harsh kestrel
This is gonna sound like a dumb question, but what in hell's bells is a Triple I game? Lol
dire gate
It's like triple A but I because indie
harsh kestrel
Hopefully this means more indie games get some more good well deserved recognition
static bluff
Man, I saw an insanely well put together indie game today that I'm psyched for. If he ever finishes it, it'll be a up there.
III looks like a 3 tho
rugged flax
regarding the newly released ship module in Elite Dangerous, have some Spaceballs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdW2VgGsgo4
wind stump
Is Godot easier to mod than Java?
static bluff
Yes
Did ya'll hear that Slay the Spire II will be made in Godot?
That's friggin HUUUGE dude
little badger
My playstation collection is growing rather quickly! Lots of sales.
When will you have time to play them all
little badger
light gate
When will you have time to play them all <:rdsnrk:587780329335422977>
Already am in sections.
Bit by bit.
little badger
Nice
light gate
https://twitter.com/godotengine/status/1778347149538767277 😉
Hope the game operates well.
graceful bridge
little badger
Embed fail
graceful bridge
Yeah, seems they aren't playing nice with Discord today.
little badger
gaunt marten
<@68799960375623680> I'm in hell! Apparently hell is dwarves
Hell yes. While you're there, try to find the developer room hidden somewhere nearby
brave karma
Would anyone like to play with me Team fortress 2 ?
Mostly I would like to play on a server that has the zombie fortress mod
little badger
little badger
harsh kestrel
Good decision, Bethesda. Work with what you have already if nothing new is coming lol
fresh bane
I know it's technically not wrong, but I find the phrasing of ''All 4 Fallout titles!'' with Fallout 1 and 2 missing completely to be really funny
gaunt marten
Super cute
thorny loom
Wished they an enchantment for new vegas and 3 did on pc. But oh well
river veldt
holy shit i found boots that let me walk on water
bold sonnet
bronze abyss
i completely forgot about it,got it many months back played a bit and just deleted it to have space for other games 
should probs play it properly this time,but rdr2 has a lot of my headspace occupied in terms of single player games
quiet swift
With the release of the tv series... prime gaming has a bunch of fallout games
dire gate
Citra dying after Nintendo dmca-ing Yuzu and then getting its code stolen without proper licensing is such an irony
thorny loom
At that point is it even stealing. Thats like. Grave robbing
bold sonnet
I always thought F76 is free since it's online only
When I played it I was thinking it's a little messy and pointless, but many say it's good now
static bluff
Oh I think Masque played that
rugged flax
I have too
checks codes
Ah, it's the Microsoft Store version
not Steam
i don't need any more fallout codes 
hasty patio
You need those codes to launch the weekly nukes though. /s
rugged flax
You can also get 1, 2, Tactics, 3, NV, 4, and 76, and a mini-nuke on Amazon right now for $60
https://www.amazon.com/Bethesda-Fallout-S-P-C-I-Anthology-Codes/dp/B0CW3T6KXQ
i don't need the game codes, but i want the mini nuke 
sour hill
sorry I logged into your account by accident
robust steppe
How can I mod unity games to remove sound files?
gaunt marten
First check if your game has a modding framework
bitter stream
^this. It'll make it a lot easier hopefully
gaunt marten
If not, try BepinEx
If you have C# knowledge, decompile the game with DNSPY or something like it to remove references to that sound file
sage iris
I'd assume just find the asset package and replace the sound file with an empty one. Sounds like the easiest way
gaunt marten
Sure, if you can find it
A lot of unity games tend to put all their assets in one big file for each asset type
Makes it hard to edit without decompiling them
hidden elbow
This ost is genius
It add such perfect sense of rivalry between Johnny and Maw
The way song first goes with bounty hunters jingle but then changes to Johnny s theme is so cool
I really wish more fps did something creative with music like this, instead of "well let's just make it sound like doom eternal or whatever"
wind stump
gaunt marten
The boss rolled "Kill the topmost character" on the very first turn
So I killed him on the very first turn.
Very fun build. https://i.imgur.com/fS6Jklt.png
This agent has Sushi, which gives his left side of the die two rerolls that are cantrip (you get them if you roll them, not if you use them), and Triple Shuriken, which gives all sides chain.
This means cantrip chains with itself to give me four rerolls one sixth of the time. This can easily allow me to get any side of the dice on all characters
Finally, the boss gives everyone one more pip, which meant the base power of reroll was three, giving me six rerolls each time
wind stump
what game is this? 
gaunt marten
Slice and Dice
It's a lot of fun. Same genre as Slay the Spire
(it's available separately on PC and Android, with a demo for each)
The demo is basically two thirds of the classic game mode, stopping you at fight twelve of twenty
little badger
thorny loom
novel pine
https://vxtwitter.com/warhorsestudios/status/1778498252104740955?s=46&t=bVzXPIZv...
SO FUCKING EXCITED
little badger
green fulcrum
I heard good things from the remake, but poor things from the movie.
Which is a shame, because the movie could've been sooooooooo good.
quiet swift
🐑
little badger
https://fxtwitter.com/gamescom/status/1778794700419264798? @graceful bridge
green fulcrum
Since the PS1 days and the OG Spyro 2, for me.
wind stump
yes technically Dream Land is like, '92 or something but you know
i owned it
a better one would probably have been Pokemon Crystal
quiet swift
minor plover
my brother played the Keen series a lot. I just watched. I didn't really play anything seriously until DooM.
little badger
This was my first game
quiet swift
I honestly can't really remember much between keen and C&C1 even though i'm sure i've played other ones
static bluff
A coin op!??
little badger
graceful bridge
My uncle took me to a nearby hot dog shop to play this brand new thing called "Pac Man". He had to lift me up to the controls.
quiet swift
Like this. My dad bought a Gateway computer back in the early 90s and that CD was on it
little badger
My uncle took me to a nearby hot dog shop to play this brand new thing called "P...
Did you win?
static bluff
My uncle took me to a nearby hot dog shop to play this brand new thing called "P...
That's epic
graceful bridge
Did you win?
Nope. I kept chasing the ghosts, not realizing I needed to eat the power pellets first.
static bluff
This is kinda random but check out this cool chess board I saw at the ren fair.
gaunt marten
Chocolate pieces
If you lose a piece you have to give it to the opponent so they can eat it
static bluff
The black and white pawns look too similar but otherwise it lookes soooo cool
gaunt marten
If you promote a piece then you eat the piece and make a new one to replace it
little badger
Nope. I kept chasing the ghosts, not realizing I needed to eat the power pellets...
insert pac man dying noise here
static bluff
This is kinda random but check out this cool chess board I saw at the ren fair.
@young creek check it out
minor plover
Like this. My dad bought a Gateway computer back in the early 90s and that CD wa...
my dad bought a Gateway 2000 386 DX-20 from their very first PC Magazine ad
"computers from IOWA?"
young creek
bowser singing peaches
gaunt marten
He looks more eating out and less singing
static bluff
Oh my
harsh kestrel
https://fxtwitter.com/gamescom/status/1778794700419264798? <@129646994053398528>
In terms of this, I've been playing since right in the middle of the PS2 era. I started playing in, at the earliest, 2003, with GTA 3 being one of my first if not my first ever game I remember playing. I don't remember much from that really early time in my life obviously, but I've always remembered that for some reason lol
green fulcrum
This was my first game
Oh man, this reminds me. Does anybody remember the game Moto Racer?
God, that was a good game.
little badger
little badger
In terms of this, I've been playing since right in the middle of the PS2 era. I ...
I loved GTA 3 it really made way for the 3D open world games back then
static bluff
heh, I had a copy of GTA 2 that I kept hidden from my parents
Honestly GTA 2 was super fun. I need to find a clone and give it a go.
harsh kestrel
I didn't know what I was doing obviously. I would always run the streets in the game beating up NPCs lol
little badger
The classic top down gta’s were fun. just getting the highest wanted level and seeing how long you could survive for was great.
harsh kestrel
I wish EA would do something right for once and just bring back Burnout properly
static bluff
Reject moto racer, embrace _Road Rash_
Heck yeah! I went and beat that on ps1 last year for old times sakes. Loved that game
quiet swift
I think there was a remake some years ago but it did poorly
harsh kestrel
Nipples The Enchilada lol
wintry canopy
One of the cards, I want for my extra deck still isn't in master duel yet. The only reason I could think its not is that most people don't use it.
little badger
quiet swift
Never doubt HC's Nep addiction
little badger
little badger
green fulcrum
Yeah, I saw this last night. It's very shitty, and just another reason to avoid Ubisoft (and EA, solely because they're doing the same kind of shenanigans lately).
white phoenix
something something "getting gamers used to not owning games"
bronze abyss
Yeah, I saw this last night. It's very shitty, and just another reason to avoid ...
going for the ubisoft booty is officially legal 
green fulcrum
harsh kestrel
Back at it again, thieving fucktards? Good to see you pushing people to not buy anything you make, make it morally right to pirate your games, and rightfully shit on you for what's now sadly typical with AAA publishers. I'm scared for these dev teams. I really am
sour hill
https://fxtwitter.com/eurogamer/status/1778908032765960448?
Honestly part of me is glad they're just straight up yoinking it from people's libraries. Makes it more apparent what they did with that game
light gate
https://fxtwitter.com/eurogamer/status/1778908032765960448?
This is legal.
But it shouldn’t.
harsh kestrel
The need to put an immediate damn Uno reversal on that somehow being legal
light gate
Its the EULA.
But yeah, its a huge reason why companies don’t want you to buy things but instead stream or ‘borrow’.
They can’t make more money.
harsh kestrel
This is why physical media is still a thing thankfully
random steppe
I don't think it'd change anything in this case right?
The game isn't playable except online
Having a phisical copy wouldn't really allow to play it
green fulcrum
This is why physical media is still a thing thankfully
That's fading away too.
random steppe
I go back and forth how I feel about this.
It's more complicated than what it appears because what you do with exclusively multiplayer games once they are done is a hard question.
The obvious answer is "provide a way to play them peer to peer, or offline" but it's not always possible.
I wouldn't expect World of Warcraft, for example, to provide that once it shuts down.
In tha case you'd need to release a way for people ot host unofficial servers, for MMOs, which would be great, but also it does sound a lot of work to create that kind of thing whch I would be more than okay to place on big devs but would be a big burden for smaller devs.
There isn't an easy solution that I would like to impose on the big company that released a massively successful game and has the money to make it available past the shutdown date, that would also work for the small devs that tried something wacky, it failed, and now on top of having to absorb the cost of the their failure, they also have to pony up the money to make their game accessible to the twelve people that still play it.
minor plover
with a lot of the small games I've played, the devs either released the server software directly with the game, or released the source for the servers when they shut down the official servers and then the community modded the game to use the unofficial servers
dire gate
Would it be viable for bigger games
light gate
I go back and forth how I feel about this.
It's more complicated than what it ap...
The game had an ‘offline’ mode.
Without any online players.
dire gate
Interestingly, some mobile games have been providing offline version when they shut down if the user requests; it is basically the game but without the gaming part
light gate
SimCity 2013 has an offline mode after the outrage
Ubisoft is basically testing the waters here and seeing if they can pull this off.
random steppe
https://youtube.com/watch?v=2qKNY64-QSc
It had an offline mode but to my understanding you were still on their servers and still relied on them for a number of things
You just were on a private game
I didn't play it much so I might be misremembering stuff
To be clear I agree it's pretty shitty, I just don't know what would be a good regulation to solve the issue in a way that doesn't burden smaller devs
quiet swift
Removing it from libraries just seems to add fuel to that stop killing games campaign... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w70Xc9CStoE
light gate
To be clear I agree it's pretty shitty, I just don't know what would be a good r...
Release the server hosting tools.
We had this a long time ago.
Sure, its gonna be hard for someone to host but at least it doesn’t become impossible.
gaunt marten
Smaller devs can make the source code public at no cost to themselves after the game is taken down
(or they can simply not sell games and then take them away later)
light gate
Yeah.
thorny loom
slim thorn
yeah, the "burden on smaller devs" angle is only a thing if we require they do additional work to make it (more?) usable outside their servers; if the requirement is just "dump whatever you had on github" then it's not a big deal at all
dire gate
I feel like it's the type of thing harder for larger devs/games
You can expect relatively small indie games do that, but you can't expect games like WoW, League, OW2, Valorant, etc. do that
slim thorn
it is, but it still shouldn't rise to the level of a "burden" at any size company
if it was a burden to know what that stuff even is, then it'd be a burden to release the game in the first place, which they already had to figure out
random steppe
IDK maybe.
Or maybe even if it's somewhat of a burden, it'd be worth it for the sake of consumer protection and game preservation.
Still, worth thinking about it from the perspective of the devs IMO
slim thorn
agreed, that's why I don't think we want any kind of "the public/preservation/post-commercial version must 'work'" requirement, for any reasonable definition of 'work'
simply copy-pasting whatever they were running on their servers, even if it takes independent modding effort to do anything useful with, is the sweet spot imo
it's similar to how, at least from what little I've heard, GDPR compliance was never a significant technical burden (unless your systems were already a mess and causing other problems); most of the headache is in figuring out what the law means in concrete enough terms to act on
(I guess you could call the cookie banners a "UX burden"? maybe it was a bad example)
random steppe
I could see problem with that as well, as someone who knows nothing of this, if you release a sequel, how similar your network architecture is to the previous game might be a problem for people intentioned to find exploits if the code is just out there maybe?
IDK at any rate, I do think it'd be a good compromise even with that in mind.
slim thorn
hm, I think that would be a non-issue in practice (unless their security was broken to begin with), but it does depend on the details of security features that I'm not an expert on
well, assuming we can word the legalese for "dump whatever was on your servers" in such a way that it doesn't include private keys and other secret values
or that you're allowed to swap the secret values for placeholders with no pretense of actual secrecy and then let whoever tries to use the open source stuff figure out what to do about it
craggy vine
I saw an ad at a shopping center today showing off the Nintendo switch as if it was new. 'TV mode, handheld mode, tabletop mode'. It makes me think when the next nintendo console is coming, the way it was advertised as if it was new and with mario kart 8 was interesting.
slim thorn
you ever have one of those days where you hear about an old game and realize you just have to play it again for some reason?
quiet swift
Whenever I hear beyond good and evil music, I wanna replay it
craggy vine
I've gone back to playing burnout 3 for ps3 again
I am still surprised how fucking good the graphics are for a ps2 game compared to others games.
So much detail and yet it runs at 60 fps. 60 fps was rare on the ps2. I don't think even killzone was 60 fps
Upscaled to 1080p on pcsx2 just shows how good the graphics are
Once you are at the F1 car it can have some fps drops though and you better hope your ps2 disc drive is up to speed
wind stump
WE ARE THE LAZY GENERATION
craggy vine
Yes
gaunt marten
You should play Burnout Paradise
gaunt marten
Let's disagree to agree
wind stump
i dunno, having to drive back to the start of an event when you lose is so annoying
and then you have to beat a lot of events again to rank up your licence... But I can say the same about Burnout 3...
I'm just nostalgia blind
craggy vine
I do need to try burnout paradise
Plus for that I don't believe I need to emulate even
Burnout 3 has some very good split screen multiplayer fun though
gaunt marten
Yes, I recommended it specifically because it's more convenient than having to deal with an emulator
wind stump
fair, fair
fucking EA.
they'd make bank if they remastered the Burnout trilogy.
but noooo, only remaster Paradise, the least good actualy playable Burnout.
i'd say "make a new one" but they'd fuck that up too
fill it with live service garbage and give it a battle pass or some shit
craggy vine
Burnout 3 is amazing to play handheld honestly
Beats every other mobile racing game on the play store and apple store
Need to kill some time? Do a quick race or crash into an intersection
Burnout 3 is the kind of game I wish mobile gaming was. Much better games.
I sorta wish there was a way to play this game in 120 fps for my 120 hz screen
120hz has ruined me. 60hz and 60 fps now feels sluggish to me and I always want 120 fps
gaunt marten
You should play Ocarina of Time
It's got two out of three of those digits
(20FPS on a good day)
craggy vine
Pf yeah I know
I have played 007 on the N64 split screen with a friend and the constant 10 fps was killing me
But back then it was just normal
At least OoT on 3DS is much smoother
thorny loom
Twitter
white phoenix
gaming historian just made an hour and a half long video on oregon trail just yesterday, highly recommend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QbjlHeoLdc
gaunt marten
static bluff
gaming historian just made an hour and a half long video on oregon trail just ye...
I can't wait to check this out. It'll be what I watch while catching up on laundry
visual hill
I was checking out Midtown Madness 2 again this week, a lot of progress was made by the modding community since I last tried it. HQ traffic models, projected shadows, longer draw distances and more
there's also an unused lens flare effect that is now exposed, and the Chicago port from MM1 seems to be much more stable now
wind stump
cute ending
quiet swift
A FAQ for an indie game... highlight:
actually editing, to remove link to be safe (not that i see anything weird on it yet)
gaunt marten
Oh yeah that website is a famous Japanese platform for selling porn games
gaunt marten
What game is this?
slim thorn
Shadow of the Colossus
random steppe
Which emulator did you go for?
gaunt marten
Oh it doesn't look like itself
random steppe
I was thinking I wanted to replay this
slim thorn
I've never done PS3 before and Retroarch doesn't have it so I tried RPCS3 and that worked almost immediately
gaunt marten
I was thinking I wanted to replay this
Play the remaster
slim thorn
apparently PS4 emulation is not a thing, and when I tried PS2 I got so many graphical and audio glitches from PCSX2 that I quickly abandoned that option
plus people online were saying PS3's the best edition anyway since it's a straight fidelity upgrade from PS2
gaunt marten
apparently PS4 emulation is not a thing, and when I tried PS2 I got so many grap...
Not a thing yet
slim thorn
ofc
gaunt marten
For PCSX2, the emulator generally sucks, and you have to go to every game's page on the emulator's wiki to find workarounds and specific settings where that game works
fresh bane
The remaster of Shadow of the Colossus simply doesn't hit the same
slim thorn
when people say remaster/make, are you talking about the PS4+5 version or the PS3 version?
gaunt marten
Newest one
fresh bane
I guess it is more a remake than anything, the Bluepoint one
slim thorn
ok cool, that matches what I was hearing elsewhere
fresh bane
PS3 is basically just the original version but I'm guessing just upscaled? It's usually what most remasters tend to do especially at that time so not much change I'm guessing
slim thorn
yeah, this feels exactly the same from what little I remember
random steppe
Play the remaster
If that is the one on ps4 I can't right?
Will probably go for the PS3 one if it's the easiest to wrangle
gaunt marten
Yeah
slim thorn
at least for me, plugging the PS3 rom into RPCS3 "just worked" (once I gave it both files, it's one of those roms)
so the fact that people seem to agree it's the best version is very convenient
RPCS3 even fully understood my gamepad as soon as I opened the config and changed "Keyboard" to "XInput"
fresh bane
Mind you the remake is technically really impressive, it's just that a lot of people me included kind of think some of that vibe and aesthetic got lost in translation and for this game that's extremely important so whenever possible the original is recommended the most 
Speaking of SOTC this reminds me of one of my favourite youtube videos
https://youtu.be/jQNeYbBiCKw?si=slNqIkuGSeelgyhI
river veldt
Jacob Geller metioned 
slim thorn
yeah, this part is just as good as we all remember it being
fresh bane
I'm still extremely impressed with the physics and mechanics of that game, extremely ambitious for the time
Plenty of games had done the whole climbing on something mechanic but SOTC is still the one game where I really felt how difficult it would be to even just hold on to something when it's moving around and trying to shake you off 
slim thorn
being older now and far more conscious of all the subtext, it's so much clearer how these mechanics contribute to the colossi feel like living creatures genuinely trying to not get killed by you, far more so than the usual video game enemies
"come on, I already stabbed you five times, stay still so I can finish this"
"HOW ABOUT NO"
fresh bane
''I'm gonna shake even harder now''
random steppe
Birb colossus is the best one
slim thorn
now that I'm replaying it, I think 5th / birb colossus sticks for two very specific reasons
- the first 4 colossi are all 2-4 legged grounded ones, where the puzzle is all about what part of it to start climbing on, so especially in 2005 going from those mechanics to "...it can fly???" was a
moment
random steppe
I remember doing it on the PS2, thinking that this was an incredible technical achivment, that it felt and looked the way it did.
slim thorn
- it's the first colossus you have to actively antagonize before it'll even move in your general direction, much less attack you, so that's a big SUBTEXT DO YOU SPEAK IT moment
random steppe
How fast and awesome it felt clinging on it while it flew is just 10/10
slim thorn
plus it threw me off once 
...I think my horse is doing the pathfinding better than me
fresh bane
Celosia is still one of the few colossus I have really distinct memories of, I don't even remember if it's because I just liked it or if it gave me trouble at the time
slim thorn
I think I had to look up the solution to that one online back in the day
(I think a lot of people did, since the game never tells you that you have a "pick up" button)
fresh bane
I do like how it has a unique way to even start getting some damage in there because it's not as huge as the other colossus
slim thorn
you mean, in addition to the remaster and the remake that already exist?
thorny loom
slim thorn
ah
slim thorn
ok, it's hard to beat birb, but electric eel's not bad either
green fulcrum
slim thorn
I like this fight a lot though
thorny loom
The salamander
fresh bane
That's the other colossus I have distinct memories of 
the arena salamander thingy
I like that one
fickle garnet
No android?
slim thorn
which one is "dirge"?
thorny loom
No android?<:ajohfuck:679186854419103754>
They already existed on google play store
slim thorn
oh the flying sand serpent?
thorny loom
Yes that one
fickle garnet
They already existed on google play store
Are there any you would recommend?
slim thorn
yeah that's one of the others I remember strongly, looking forward to it since I already know horse 
is the opening move
slim thorn
9 down
I'm officially far enough into the game that I'm starting to wish I could fast travel between save points
slim thorn
Celosia is still one of the few colossus I have really distinct memories of, I d...
from this angle they look like a giant house cat
fresh bane
It kind of looks like that when it attacks you with the murder mittens
slim thorn
its AI is definitely "playing with its food" in this first phase, it keeps knocking me down then walking away and waiting for me to get up again instead of actually trying to squish me
wouldn't it be funny if the colossus falling on top of you also killed you /s
(I don't think I was supposed to fight it in here, but that's where we ended up)
fresh bane
it is pretty funny to me how this one in particular feels more dangerous than the others
I wonder if it's because the size reminds me of animals that already exist that are that big and could totally kill you by just falling on top of you
slim thorn
it might be the only one that's as fast as we are
also, thank god they didn't try to make this game actually hard hard, or it would be an absolute slog
fresh bane
that too, it's like fighting a lion
the mechanic of having to pick up a piece of wood and light it on fire to make it afraid also makes it feel like you're fighting off a predator even more
fresh bane
also, thank god they didn't try to make this game actually _hard_ hard, or it wo...
I think by far the biggest challenges for me the first time around were any fights that required heavy movement
The one with the colossus in the sand is one I remember for giving me a lot of trouble just because it's inherently hard to focus on riding a horse while aiming a bow
(especially if you're playing on an emulator with only a keyboard)
slim thorn
you mean #10 (the "bullfight" sand snake in a little cave arena) or #13 (the enormous flying serpent in the wide open desert whose wings you have to climp up after a horse-yeet)?
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhh
slim thorn
makes sense, that's the only one so far where you really need Agro to be in full gallop while you turn around and aim
and then also turn her right after a hit
I think the idea is you have to just trust her to control herself for a while
grand cargo
WOOOOO GUYS LOOK
slim thorn
but now, where the heck is #12's entrance...
river veldt
WOOOOO GUYS LOOK
hell yeah brother
grand cargo
hell yeah brother
I will get to Nights if I feel masochistic enough. There are tougher levels.
fresh bane
I think the idea is you have to just trust her to control herself for a while
it doesn't help that this is one of those games to do the whole ''the horse will sometimes just not obey you'' things
slim thorn
maybe the best insight I've ever heard into Team Ico's creative history is that the "NPC doesn't obey you because that makes them a real character" idea got stronger with every game they did, but SotC was the sweet spot for most people where it was only occasionally annoying
though I also enjoyed The Last Guardian a lot, it probably helped that I was primed to expect that "problem"
that or I'm just really good at that "use praise/scold at the right times and the animal sidekick becomes more consistent" gimmick
(Haunting Ground had that too and I recall no difficulty controlling Hewie)
gaunt marten
Digimon world is the one game that did praise and scold right
fresh bane
Zelda does that too and it becomes really apparent when you compare how a late game horse controls vs a brand new one
slim thorn
well... most Zeldas with a horse have trouble giving you a reason to actually ride the horse
fresh bane
Though with Zelda I also had 'issues' with horses seemingly locking into paths on the road automatically without my input which is annoying
Even in BOTW which re introduced the mechanic of riding horses around already had the bike and in TOTK they just allowed you to construct your own car if you wanted so horses were extra ''useless''
slim thorn
oh I don't even think bikes and cars were the issue
it's fast travel, and tons of terrain horses can't scale but you can
every time I tried riding my horse anywhere in TotK I just had to park it and climb a rock after five minutes
that's why Agro works here: most of the open world you can't traverse in any way besides running, so riding her is actually beneficial, and the climbing bits that force you to dismount are always right next to a colossus arena
fresh bane
The only other two games where Epona is in is OOT and TP and in those you pretty much only ride around Hyrule Field which is completely flat so yeah for that it's really useful, funnily enough the sand seals were vastly more useful than horses
river veldt
at least they aren't as useless as Skyrim horses
fresh bane
Once you get even just 50% of all the fast travel points there's just no point to actually riding your horse anywhere other than just RP purposes which is why I kept riding mine everywhere and even then that was a pain, they didn't even include the most useful addition in BOTW which was letting you teleport your horse to wherever you are with a special saddle which baffled me honestly
gaunt marten
I don't use Epona in OoT
river veldt
just sidehop everywhere
river veldt
what is that
gaunt marten
Fast forward is an emulator functionality that lets me play the game at higher speeds
Backwalking is the second fastest form of movement in OoT. Second to Epona
river veldt
at least they aren't as useless as Skyrim horses <:rdsnrk:587780329335422977>
this was a jest btw i like riding horsies in Skyrim
gaunt marten
In the version I play, bunny ears make link a lot faster
https://www.zeldaspeedruns.com/oot/generalknowledge/movement-speeds this is the vanilla speed for everything
river veldt
isn't bunny ears Majora's Mask
fresh bane
It's both
light gate
Also https://fxtwitter.com/centroleaks/status/1779299071892607095?s=46&t=bVzXPIZ...
Hmmmmm
I don’t trust it.
river veldt
waow
gaunt marten
Bunny ears in vanilla oot do nothing
The version I have mods them so they make you superfast
As fast as backwalking while going forward
river veldt
Bunny ears in vanilla oot do nothing
what do you mean
gaunt marten
Fast forward backwalk, not to be confused with fast forward backwalk.
gaunt marten
what do you mean
In OoT they're just a mask you get from the happy mask shop and there's a quest to sell them to a guy
But putting them on doesn't do anything to you
river veldt
strange
fresh bane
In OOT they just prevent an enemy type from spawning
gaunt marten
Oh they do?
fresh bane
In Majora's it makes you run faster
It prevents the hyrule field enemies from spawning at night
light gate
I don’t trust it.
They don’t have a developer website, it just redirects to the app page itself. The app wants your location and know data usage for some freaking reason? (Data usage meaning internet/cellular) Avoid.
And apparently it has ads.
Incredible
slim thorn
finally figured out #12
river veldt
how many colussusssessss are there
slim thorn
16
river veldt
waow
slim thorn
gonna take a break to do boring adulting stuff before I start on the last handful
slim thorn
16 in particular I think was very long
fresh bane
And originally there were gonna be so many more than just 16 
gaunt marten
I spent like two hours playing portal and eventually got sick of fiddling with the physics and stopped playing forever
slim thorn
I know they had unused colossus ideas, but did they ever want the total number to be much higher?
gaunt marten
I got it for free so I can't get a refund on it
river veldt
I spent like two hours playing portal and eventually got sick of fiddling with t...
youve said this before and i still dont get it lol
gaunt marten
It's simple
When I know the solution to a puzzle
I don't want to practice until I get it just right
I want to move on to the next puzzle
slim thorn
far from the first time one of us recommended a game and it just failed to work for the other person and no one has a clue why
gaunt marten
I know very well why I don't like it
river veldt
strange
gaunt marten
I love puzzle games that don't have physics
gaunt marten
Like Opus Magnum, Tangle Towers, Human Resource Machine
I like physics games that are not puzzles
gaunt marten
Like World of Goo, or the one game where you set things on fire
slim thorn
I usually like physics puzzlers but the physics do need to be consistent enough that executing a puzzle solution is easier than solving the actual puzzle
which was never an issue for me in Portal
but World of Goo I found unplayable after the first 10 or so levels
river veldt
im trying to think of other puzzle games i like
gaunt marten
Yes the issue is I am way clumsier than I am dumb.
slim thorn
and I think you recommended Teslagrad? which I also had to drop what feels like halfway through when the puzzles just stopped operating consistently
river veldt
i guess Zelda has puzzles but i wouldn't call those puzzle games
though the shrines in BotW and TotK do remind me of Portal
slim thorn
indeed, calling something a "puzzle game" is all about relative emphasis
gaunt marten
Yeah I recommended Teslagrad for the music and atmosphere but I dropped it for the puzzles
slim thorn
Monument Valley would be a puzzle game for example
slim thorn
no, it's a first-person shooter
but HL2 did popularize the use of physics puzzles (and... physics weapons?) in shooters and other 3D genres
river veldt
Source Engine my beloved
gaunt marten
I have 304 games in my steam library marked as puzzle games
river veldt
do you have Tetris
river veldt
but HL2 _did_ popularize the use of physics puzzles (and... physics weapons?) in...
gravity gun is so fun to use omg
slim thorn
speaking of which I should play more Patrick's Parabox at some point
river veldt
make it so
gaunt marten
Escape Goat and Donut Country are two physics puzzle games that I liked
river veldt
Goat Simulator
gaunt marten
I don't have any Tetris games
I played my aunt's handheld Tetris console before she died of congenital illness
river veldt
im sorry to hear that
gaunt marten
It's okay, I don't miss her because I never knew her
slim thorn
I don't think I ever formally owned a Tetris game
but I did play a lot of Meteos back when that was a DS launch title, although no one remembers it any more
river veldt
but I did play a _lot_ of Meteos back when that was a DS launch title, although ...
what is that
gaunt marten
Super Mario 35 is not a Tetris
river veldt
yeah but it was a battle royale like Tetris 99
slim thorn
what is that
basically a competitive match-3 game where the unique mechanic was that matching doesn't immediately clear your board, but instead turns the matched blocks into rockets pushing blocks out of your arena and into the opponent's arena (and more matches means more thrust, and blocks coming from the opponent might shove yours back down before they can fly away, etc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsZo87zFyKw is the first gameplay video google gives me
gaunt marten
Arcade games were wild and not enough people make new ones anymore
river veldt
they still make arcade games but they're more like gambling for children
gaunt marten
They make good ones too
My favorite modern arcadey games are Assault Android Cactus, Chippy, and Jamestown+
river veldt
are we talking about actualy arcade games or games that are like old arcade games
gaunt marten
The latter
river veldt
woops
dire gate
I think only modern actual arcade games I know are Japanese ones
slim thorn
I did go to a literal in-person arcade several times as a teenager, but they were basically all light gun games since that's what most of us couldn't play at home
gaunt marten
I went to a lot of arcades as a child but I couldn't afford much so I often just watched the demo videos
dire gate
By winning BAFTA Best Game Award, BG3 is the first game to win every GOTY award from BAFTA, DICE, GDC, GJA, TGA.
Until now, the closest were Zelda BOTW(2017, BAFTA went to What remains of Edith Finch?), God of War(2018, GJA went to Fortnite Battle Royal), and Elden Ring(2022, BAFTA went to Vampire Survivors)
Skyrim also won everything except BAFTA; It won DICE, GDC, TGA in 2011 and GJA in 2012. BAFTA went to Portal 2(2011) and Dishonored(2012)
slim thorn
let's goooo
...let's call that one a draw
I do love how every time you go splat, Agro's there within a minute if it's at all possible for her to reach you
yeah that's still one of the best ones
thorny loom
craggy vine
Bruh
slim thorn
finally
I have a vague memory of the approach but no idea what happens after I reach it
grand cargo
Lmao https://fxtwitter.com/gvy_dvpont/status/1779234987180482658?s=46&t=bVzXPIZv...
We finally doing the reverse!!
craggy vine
Cyberpunk: Look story
Me: You look like a cut of fuckable meme
sus sus maeam maeam
"lets look at the braindance footage together"
makes a ytp out of the footage for 30 minutes
unreal idol
I found an infinite money cheat for nintendo and Sega. Mario x Sonic games but they're Mario Party
I'd buy the hell out of that
gaunt marten
Hell yeah
Mario Party is great and all, but primarily because of the game itself, and not the Mario branding
hidden elbow
Twitter
river veldt
NEW PANNENKOEK VIDEO https://youtu.be/YsXCVsDFiXA?feature=shared
unreal idol
yeah I saw that posted. I need to watch it sometime
Might be good to listen to at work sometime this week
Since FF4 made me mad I might go play LttP
gaunt marten
A link to the past is a lot of fun
unreal idol
It is!
Flitter, do you know how long the Tower of Babil takes to clear whenever the Ninja joins your party?
And/or if you have to return to the Tower
gaunt marten
Yes. It's a little bit long. You do not have to return to it
The end is interesting and fun, though
unreal idol
I will revisit it in the future
Honestly the music is kinda... not great for the area
So that part gets annoying too
I will say this though. Rydia is OP as hell with her summons
unreal idol
I think the English script is a little weak too
But I attribute that to a lack of polish due to it being 1990/1991
gaunt marten
There's a romhack that fixes the script up a bit, I think
unreal idol
I imagine the remakes are much better in that regard
gaunt marten
The pixel remaster is great
unreal idol
I intend to revisit the game in the future, either with a rom hack or one of the remakes
But I want to play it "as intended" as if it were 1991, at least for the first play through
gaunt marten
I wasn't even around then so my first experience is the handheld remake
unreal idol
I'm weird when it comes to this for some reason
Anyway it is time to LttP while Denzy plays TotK
gaunt marten
Have fun
What the fuck https://i.imgur.com/Jey1P2T.png
I have a cursed artifact that hurts me when I roll one side of the dice https://i.imgur.com/HILspPV.png
But when I hurt myself, my on-hit effect triggers and I hurt myself again
river veldt
i love Link to the Past
it's very comfy
it also has one of my favourite areas in any game
there's just a guy chilling underneath the bridge to Hyrule Castle and he has this cozy little set up lol
unreal idol
Lttp is fun 
harsh kestrel
I just finished Spiderman 2 on PS5, and the story was as good as I was expecting. I swear, Insomniac better never lose these games. They always make gems out of them. It makes me wonder if Spiderman 3 is gonna be next or if they're gonna do another spinoff like they had for Miles Morales. Only time will tell. For now, hella good game. I'd recommend it just for the story alone. Who doesn't like a good Marvel story? 8 out of 10
green fulcrum
Huh. TIL that Final Fantasy 7 has a snowboarding section.
random steppe
It's not by chance that it's where the Gold Saucer was first introduced in the franchise
slim thorn
I remember the snowboarding, which makes no sense considering how much game there is in that game to forget
river veldt
It's not by chance that it's where the Gold Saucer was first introduced in the f...
i didn't know it was a recurring thing i thought it was exclusive to VII
the more you know
random steppe
It's in the MMO, so not exactly recurring
Since the MMo takes things from other FF on purpose
river veldt
oh yeah
random steppe
But yeah
It's in at least one other place
Knowing how SE loves to milk FF7 it might be in other spinoffs and such
fickle garnet
I started A Plague Tale: Innocence. Its pretty good
visual hill
I started a while ago but didn't finish it yet
fickle garnet
I got it free from the epic games store a while ago
light gate
https://youtu.be/JZG-WP8A_2c?feature=shared
Please get a steam deck, an rog ally, or anything except this.
it is really bad.
green fulcrum
Never even heard of it
craggy vine
Yeah, I watched reviews of it when it first came out because I am really interested in these devices. Would have liked to see MSI make something more unique other then 'it has intel' and everything else be a copy. The big issue is just that it is a laptop intel CPU and its iGPU being classed as a gaming machine, when intel iGPUs aren't capable of gaming at all. I expected the performance of what thin and light laptops with an Intel iGPU has, and that is exactly what it is. Only thing I do like over the ROG Ally and Steam Deck is that it has 32 gb of ram, which can help for when you get ram limited, but those times aren't too often unless you are really trying to push what these things can do anyway.
Steam Deck or ROG Ally both aren't perfect, but they are up there with some of the best handhelds you can get for the price. I still hope things continue to improve.
At 6:28 in the video they're using the ROG Ally stand for this device, something funny I noticed
I feel like mentioning my experience running Cyberpunk on the ROG Ally since they do run it on the MSI Claw up there. It certainly is far from perfect, even great. Aiming for a 30 fps experience is probably the best for a clear looking experience with little FSR, going for 60 you have to make the game look a bit blurry but I much prefer it for that game. I even reach up to 120 with frame gen for the 120hz screen. Every now and then I have issues with sound cutting out for half a second, like the game froze for a tiny bit behind the frame generation, can be a bit annoying. The start screen also always has its sound delayed for some reason but that isn't a huge deal. Also the game can't run on the 'steam deck' quality preset, it crashes a lot for me. Maybe going down to 900p or 720p would have helped but I didn't, instead I had to change textures from high to medium, kept getting ram limited. Pretty sure the steam deck would have more free ram for games then the ROG Ally running windows.
Also the default graphics drivers on the ROG Ally are missing a lot of features, including AMD built in driver frame gen feature, so getting rid of the OEM drivers and just installing 780m drivers straight from AMD can get you more features.
I really hope the handheld market continues to improve, hopefully becoming something like laptops where it is more asking what price you want to pay then just what device should I get
craggy vine
Him talking about how fps doesn't really matter when you are out from home gaming is so true. If I'm sitting in my van killing an hour, I don't care much about the graphics or the fps, just that I am playing a game and it is playable.
light gate
too good perhaps
fresh bane
I mean, I don't understand what that's supposed to mean they just have good pr because their team seems to actually give a shit about what they're doing and the industry they're a part of through their actions and game
plus any company is gonna want to have good pr too
slim thorn
I assume they mean how the positivity around Larian and BG3 is often conspicuously overstated, in that way a lightning rod of hype tends to give expectations no real game could ever hope to live up to matter how legitimately great it is
a lot of it is obviously coming from dissatisfaction with the state of AAA gaming; it's been a long time since disgruntled gamers had such an obvious candidate to point at and say "look at them, you can have wild record-breaking success and not suck at the same time, you dinguses"
harsh kestrel
rotund forge
there we go
craggy vine
Honestly fair, it sounded like a data stealing app
craggy vine
Ok yeah I read a bit of it and it was literally a scam app
novel pine
https://i.imgur.com/xg6Y37E.png
lol you gotta play that guys spelunky-like game
gaunt marten
I did
novel pine
the dialogue in that one is hilarious
gaunt marten
Good run https://i.imgur.com/6U5v2QG.png
static bluff
Nice.
gaunt marten
The 69696 number is just the cap
And I'm back to having all achievements https://i.imgur.com/xsvDNBL.png
More people have the "Get every achievement" achievement than those who have the newest two achievements
wind stump
https://i.imgur.com/xg6Y37E.png
i should play boneraiser again
thorny loom
https://www.macrumors.com/2024/04/15/apple-removes-igba-from-app-store/
Yeah apparently it was filled with ads and wasnt even his but somebody elses emulator
little badger
wind stump
little badger
<:rip:252624023794483201>
You can still play but need to connect to the American servers.
wind stump
figured as much
little badger
gaunt marten
Yes, we know it's in development
little badger
I know but the rating means it’s close to releasing
unreal idol
Not always
random steppe
When I am at home I will do a deep dive on the average, maximum and minimum time a game gets rated before they release in Australia
Like any normal person would
dire gate
I like how almost every information is just "not specified"
random steppe
Joking aside it probably means it's at least content complete
Can't rate the content if the content isn't there
random steppe
Yeah I assume they sent it to every place to get rated at the same time
dire gate
Yeah they are probably close to being ready unless anything happens
dire gate
It also passed Korean rating recently too
lol didn't even know but apparently this was already known like 10 days ago, and the rating was done in February
random steppe
Give how strict Australia is with rating their games, I assume they are probably slower
It's probably more relevant in Aus because Team Cherry develops there
dire gate
Korea is also extremely infamous for its unintetional upcoming-game leaking
Due to, well, also a very strict rating-requirement system
SMT5 Vengeance was also leaked due to it recieving Korean rating
random steppe
What's the next big gaming thing? Summer Game Fest? Or we have a direct, TGA, Xbox showcase etc...before that?
I could see Geoff wanting that release date trailer really badly if it's actually coming
dire gate
Nintendo already did their partnership showcase in Feb so I think that option is out
random steppe
Ok here is my current expectation.
If we don't see a trailer by Summer Game Fest, it's probably not coming this year
rotund forge
Okay I need to know....Has anyone heard of the "Don't Escape" games?
Basically the opposite of an escape room puzzle
dire gate
The closest major event is I think uhhh... Indie Live Expo in May 25?
gaunt marten
Okay I need to know....Has anyone heard of the "Don't Escape" games?
Basically ...
Do you have any examples or can you explain the premise?
dire gate
The closest major event is I think uhhh... Indie Live Expo in May 25?
After that would be SGF, June 7
rotund forge
Do you have any examples or can you explain the premise?
One second
rotund forge
Do you have any examples or can you explain the premise?
There are 4 in total, but this video goes into the first 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilaiu_AUcvY&t=25s
gaunt marten
I don't want to watch a video
rotund forge
While each are self contained stories of "preventing yourself from escaping (or something getting IN)", the lore of each is hidden in the details and hints at a much larger, fully connected universe
gaunt marten
Okay. It's not actually a genre
rotund forge
No it's a series. Like I said, there are 4
gaunt marten
You did not say it's a series before
It's just a normal puzzle game where you have to find a solution to a contrived problem that makes it so you're forced to leave
https://scriptwelder.newgrounds.com/games links to the first three
rotund forge
Okay I need to know....Has anyone heard of the "Don't Escape" games?
Basically ...
Don't Escape "games"
gaunt marten
And number 4https://store.steampowered.com/app/611760/Dont_Escape_4_Days_to_Survive/
rotund forge
That doesn't imply genre to me...
rotund forge
And number 4https://store.steampowered.com/app/611760/Dont_Escape_4_Days_to_Surv...
yes, those
gaunt marten
"Roguelike Games" is a genre. "Escape Room Games" is a genre
rotund forge
okay i get it. I just wanted to know if someone had heard of the series and you clearly hadn't so...
hidden elbow
Caroline from vicerafest is literally me
little badger
thorny loom
Yeah i mentioned that. The app was fine but it was essentially a stolen reupload
chilly mural
thorny loom
Twitter
quiet swift
https://vxtwitter.com/BrianPShea/status/1778454886260101179? 10/10 game of the year folks
rancid herald
confirmed for holes in the ground that you have to climb into, to access the computer terminal
light gate
https://vxtwitter.com/BrianPShea/status/1778454886260101179? 10/10 game of the...
You don’t climb any towers, you use a grapple hook to get above them.
thorny loom
https://vxtwitter.com/BrianPShea/status/1778454886260101179? 10/10 game of the...
Twitter
$110 paywall btw
quiet swift
harsh kestrel
The game looks promising, but yeah, the prices fucking kill it on arrival. Another installment of Ubisoft fumbling the bag. Well, more so the greedy piece of shit suits up top that could give less of a fuck about us as long as they get money as usual. Like, okay, look, it would sting less maybe if the shit was like $90 max for everything, but $130? No, fuck off lol
young creek
the disrespect they are showing to Mr Hutt..
thorny loom
Jabba probably is the one who asked for those prices
green fulcrum
Nobody should be giving Ubisoft any money right now, not while they're pulling the shit about stealing games from players.
harsh kestrel
That too. Forgot that they yoinked the OG Crew game from everyone
If anything, I just feel bad for the employees and devs that just wanna make some good shit. That's what scares me about the guys working on XDefiant. They're just under the wrong publishing umbrella
hasty patio
hidden elbow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szcaq2GdOAs
The russian dub for him was just beyond perfect
https://youtu.be/JXJMYNdrS6E?si=U1wXlgT5DCAd951o
fickle garnet
https://vxtwitter.com/rad_dude124/status/1779769740128321758
<:opaLOLine:1116739...
Oh my god that's great
quiet swift
Man, even the night shots are gorgeous
craggy vine
Ok now I have to watch the movie
shy flare
anyone got higher end wireless mouse recommmendations
also a headset recc would be cool
robust latch
headset for work or more for gaming usage?
visual hill
anyone got higher end wireless mouse recommmendations
ASUS Harpe Ace
robust latch
or both?
visual hill
it's my main mouse, I like it a lot, can vouch for it
shy flare
gaming