Probably not because it's a PS5 exclusive
fucking hell sony
#general gaming
wind stump
actually was that revealed in the state of play or whatever they call it?
dire gate
It was revealed like a few years ago, they were working on it and it's releasing Soon™️
wind stump
WAIT THESE ARE THE FUCKING NIKKE DEVS
dire gate
yeah that's why I pinged you
wind stump
RIGHT I TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH MY FRIEND WHO PLAYS NIKKE
THEY USED THE GACHA FUNDS FOR THIS
Ayyyy they remembered that Shadow exists!
Like, the 2005 game i love ironically, not the character
no guns tho, 0/10
nothing else catching my interest tho
understandable since i don't own a Sony console 
thorny loom
Black doom
wind stump
hiiiii shadooooow
it's meeeee, the devil
i loooove youuuu
wind stump
hey bing bong you're doing a bad job
wee oo wee oo
hey i'm in your flashbacks now
... i could quote that fandub all day
light gate
Eeeehhhh
wind stump
light gate
It wouldn’t be worth it either.
Steam has the playstation exclusives, why would I want a Playstation portable device?
Seems like a severe miscalculation.
wind stump
Plus Steam Deck
light gate
But then again their games might run better on their portable device.
Sony is technically smart about optimizing.
So unless they can bring something that could change people’s minds over Steam, and provide something unique. Valve pretty much has the market locked down with the exception of Nintendo.
Nintendo and Valve are pretty much the only competitors.
And while you could get an ASUS, MSI, and other handhelds… why would you if they run slower with Windows?
Valve is effectively slowly forcing devs to actually make games for the Deck.
But this is assuming that x86_64 will get better with power consumption. ARM is still beating the crap out of it, and I feel the new Switch will make Valve sweat a little.
little badger
Anyone here still own a Vita?
harsh kestrel
Y'all just released the PS5 Portal which was a mixed bag depending on the person, and now they could be releasing another handheld thing. Jesus, Sony, calm down for five minutes lol
bronze abyss
here it goes,starting kingdom hearts final mix
bronze abyss
bruh my controller isnt working in it and the mfs dont let you change camera sensitivity 
idfc how old this game is who the fuck does this
bronze abyss
apparently its hidden in settiungs,why are there 2 of them jfc
bronze abyss
everyday,i imagine a future where i can be with you
thorny loom
Just Monika
bronze abyss
the best gift for your valentine is murdering their friends and enslaving them in the matrix
wind stump
🇼 
thorny loom
teal sonnet
quiet swift
It's actually not the only one 
thorny loom
Ff7. “ you need a new ssd”
random steppe
FF7 Rebuild (your playstation)
bronze abyss
https://fxtwitter.com/playstationsize/status/1753164424569827692?
they better chill with the game sizes with these ssd prices
little badger
they better chill with the game sizes with these ssd prices
They need to compress them better.
wind stump
🧱
quiet swift
though i cant play it
gonna have to wait X years for the PC version T_T
sour hill
Off topic, but I'm glad that the Xbox went all in on really being a box
quiet swift
I'm pretty sure a prototype actually was
...nice cropping, shitlord site.
I believe this was a purely press meets/conventions one
robust latch
muskrat sues for trademark infringement /s
quiet swift
Inflation and daylight robbery
thorny loom
Gotta love how back then we thought $3 was overpriced
Now today skins regularly go for $10-$20
river veldt
man that's a good idea
sour hill
they only showed like 8 seconds of gameplay and people are already finding shit to clown on them for 
fresh bane
Context is important
sour hill
can't catch a break
river veldt
Vinesauce Vinny did a playthrough of Silent Hill 2 a couple years back, i might watch it
sour hill
I'd beg you to play it yourself, but it doesn't emulate well 😔
gaunt marten
I want a tool that automatically makes videogames out of the stuff in trailers instead of the actual game
sour hill
That might exist in our lifetimes
fresh bane
When the previous games made by the developer already have a track record for being mid at best and when the first trailer already showed some dubious stuff and now you have this weird action montage shooting things in the face while they vault over an obstacle like a generic videogame character yeah I think people have a justifiable reason to be shitting on this
river veldt
I'd beg you to play it yourself, but it doesn't emulate well 😔
most of the time i prefer to watch horror games 
fresh bane
I'm not gonna act like it's gamers being mad for nothing
gaunt marten
most of the time i prefer to watch horror games <:trixienervous:6850790974032445...
Why? You're afraid the game's antagonist is gonna clock you?
river veldt
sure
gaunt marten
I don't think they'd have time for that.
river veldt
i dont play games with sound because i like to watch videos and i feel like if the purpose of horror games is to be immersive than i cant really do that
sour hill
Sound is a huge huge part of silent hill
river veldt
yeah
sour hill
It's literally called silent hill
slim thorn
sound is a huge part of many games I play
even the chill ones need their chill sounds
gaunt marten
Yeah I just play the game with sound once or twice then I imagine it in my head while I have something else playing
sour hill
I love finding games that work well with playing my own music in the background
Weirdly, I found that Elden Ring is not one of those games, unlike other fromsoft titles
I want full immersion with that game
gaunt marten
Every game works well with my own stuff in the background including rhythm games don't at me
sour hill
That's wild
strong pebble
https://x.com/mintblitz/status/1753048054452600964?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ
I got it for free but I don't play it anymore
river veldt
man
i rewatched some of PT and im going to be forever sad this game was canned
it's 10 years old this year wtf
👴
gaunt marten
I can't believe 2004 was ten years ago I'm so old
fresh bane
hah, that's fun
One of my favourite things is how characters in the REverse just have closets full of clothes of the same color 
Chris is green, Jill is blue, Claire and Ada are red
random steppe
I like how fake that pic looks, because it's actually correct
Since ||the fact that he went on vacation was a cover||
fresh bane
Nothing directly states that || Chris didn't investigate Umbrella and go on a fishing vacation to europe at the same time 
||
I feel like over time, people have forgotten just how genuinely evil of a company Konami is
It's so weird how so many people lately are willing to jump and defend Konami, especially whenever Kojima is mentioned, people just seem to have a visceral hate for Kojima that they're willing to defend and justify Konami
Never thought I'd see the day
gaunt marten
Reassigning into a depressing job is a common tactic in Japan to say "We're not going to fire you because then we'd have to pay severance."
river veldt
https://vxtwitter.com/Iumenflower/status/1753090053411053782
jesus christ
random steppe
To be fair, I don't like author mentality the gaming and movie industry have either.
It does devalue the contribution of a lot of people when people assign so much of the merit to one guy.
That said, the hateboner for him is largely unjustified and bring people to defending genuinely evil behaviour sometimes.
fresh bane
Not even, really
The people who enjoy Kojima's work just really enjoy it, and those who don't really don't, so when people start praising Kojima all the time and he wins awards and such the people that don't like him start to not like him even more 
fresh bane
Reassigning into a depressing job is a common tactic in Japan to say "We're not ...
Konami goes further than that by actively stopping you from getting other jobs in the industry if you leave the company too
People don't hate Konami for nothing
dense crypt
Not even, really
The people who enjoy Kojima's work just really enjoy it, and th...
so its just huge amounts of envy and not getting why he's so revered okay
fresh bane
As silly as it may sound, kind of
slim thorn
I have a lot of mixed feelings about his games, but there's a reason I played all of MGS 1-4 and then later chose to spend another dozens of hours on Death Stranding
dire gate
Konami is one company I know being almost unanimously hated worldwide
astral steeple
the only konami game i actively remember super well is Rumble Roses XX on 360 and the game that came out before it on ps2
it was like their take on wrestling
but was only female characters
slim thorn
off the top of my head, the Silent Hills, the Metal Gears, and the Castlevanias are some pretty big Konami games a lot of us care about
astral steeple
oh wait yeah
I remember silent hill 4 the room as well
only silent hill game i ever actually was interested in and cared about
river veldt
i enjoy Kojima's work
what little i have seen of Death Stranding resonated with me a lot for some reason
visual hill
that reminds me, I should start MGS3
astral steeple
never played any MGS games
astral steeple
though as characters snake and raiden are cool
slim thorn
I have no clue how to recommend metal gear to anyone, there's so much good all over the games and also so much jank but also so much tight continuity that it's hard to say anything but "just play everything or nothing" 
granted, if someone's goal was "I want to learn what the big deal is with Kojima", then 100% go for Death Stranding
visual hill
just play Everything or Nothing is good advice too
fresh bane
A lot of people say 'play MGS in chronological order' and I feel like that's the wrongest advice you can give a newcomer
slim thorn
oh god chronological?
astral steeple
granted my taste in games are super specific so id probably not even like or be interested in the mgs games anyways
my favorite types of games are just the ones where you can run around and do whatever
Even moreso if the games have good female characters and/or good female character customization
like Skate 3, Gmod, Saints Row 4, any of the tony hawk games, gta 5, etc
slim thorn
why would you even suggest that lol
visual hill
I'm playing them in the order they came out
fresh bane
That's the correct option
visual hill
are people suggesting Machete order now? 
dire gate
Watch all the cutscenes as if they are a movie and only play mgs3 /j
slim thorn
tbf it is very rare that an order other than release order is correct
fresh bane
release order will always be the correct way to play a franchise
People also do the 'play chronologically' with DMC and it's also similarly not a good idea
slim thorn
if you can even decide which timeline model to follow
dire gate
That's why you need 3 universes
slim thorn
oh I'm referring to the timeline of timelines, not the mostly-standard-ish timeline that branches in three at OoT
dire gate
Well I mean the branch is quite canon so
slim thorn
all the others were canon too
dire gate
I guess you have to decide when to play botw
slim thorn
and the three branch one is in limbo after BotW
so now it's just another timeline on the timeline of timelines
dire gate
also you have to decide where you can fit CDi
visual hill
BOTW is a game I started last year but didn't pick up again yet
river veldt
i might get the Metal Gear Solid Collection but i heard bad things about it so idk
visual hill
with mods on PC, it's good. On consoles, not so much
it isn't unplayable by any means, but it's hardly ideal. The Switch version in particular is pretty compromised, I'd consider it worse than PS2 for MGS2 due to the 30 FPS cap
slim thorn
I think Nire's familiar with the state of the MGS collection?
river veldt
🙁
fresh bane
I wouldn't say I'm too familiar with it because I haven't touched it
The general idea is that it's playable and currently the only way to get the first 3 games, people say that Master Collection MGS1 is better than the original Integral PC port but MGS2 on GOG is still the best way to play and the best version of that game
There's mods already released and others getting worked on I think, so at least that mitigates some problems, the bad reception was also because we all kind of expected more and it released on a pretty bad state with a lot of issues that are now for the most part 'fixed'
The audio for example was just fucked on release so it was borderline unplayable
They're playable, and they're the only versions you can get and the only way to play these games so it's about as good as you'll get
https://vxtwitter.com/xenosaga7/status/1752835423788007524
ah there we go, I found the tweet I was looking for when I was talking about Kojima earlier
can't bring myself to hate him when he does stuff like this
(as an extra detail: the smoke has BTs in it)
dire gate
He is probably one of those people, who can be described with the word "weird"
random steppe
To be fair, I don't think Kojima games are that good
Some are great, some are unique, but pretty much all of them have pretty big flaws if you look for them
Not liking his stuff is perfectly understandable.
fresh bane
I mean, nobody is saying otherwise
I'm not gonna argue that specific point because if you don't think his games are good or you don't enjoy them that's completely fine
dire gate
I like that there is a meme of him showing his name multiple times as the creator of a game
random steppe
I get annoyed when people hate on his stuff because it does something unique tho.
Death Stranding being largely a game about traversal should be praised even if it's a genre you aren't esepecially interested in.
On the other hand, the forced exposition and the constant repetition of concepts is something that we could have done without.
dire gate
BY HIDEO KOJIMA
fresh bane
A Hideo Kojima game is the meme
dire gate
It can be expanded infinitely
fresh bane
I can come across as very arrogant but he actually has a lot of respect for his team, a lot of them have stayed with him since the beginning
It*
dire gate
A Hideo Kojima game by Hideo Kojima
slim thorn
I went into Death Stranding mostly not knowing what it was because, somehow, I could just tell I was in the mood for "whatever the heck Kojima felt like doing"
and that is exactly what I got
fresh bane
Revolver (Revolver Ocelot) Ocelot (Revolver Ocelot)
dire gate
A Hideo Kojima game by Hideo Kojima, created by Hideo Kojima, worked by Hideo Kojima
fresh bane
I've been on the fence about playing Death Stranding since I did manage to get it for free but it's on the EGS, and also I've already seen all of it and I don't tend to replay games but dammit it's the kind of game where the gameplay is the draw
Which is another thing people mischaracterize his games on a lot of the time because Kojima games have great gameplay but I guess calling his games movies or calling Death Stranding a walking sim is just so funny
It's the ultimate way to tell who has and hasn't actually played Kojima games
slim thorn
I would disagree that they have great gameplay
they have highly experimental and often unique gameplay, but how much of it works is a complete toss-up
fresh bane
Even MGS4 which is the game that people mock the most was the reason we got Peace Walker and MGSV because that's the game that changed the gameplay from what MGS3 was into what it would end up becoming
dire gate
Also I think people call them movies not because the gameplay sucks, it is rather because of the excessive amount/length of cutscenes
slim thorn
especially the MGS series since I didn't even like the gameplay in 1-3, it wasn't until 4 where it finally clicked well enough that I liked playing it as much as getting to the next story beat
(although I have not played either of the 5s, given the trend I assume those are solid)
dire gate
Solid like a snake? 
fresh bane
MGS3 has the weirdest gameplay for me, I thoroughly enjoy the gameplay of MGS1 and 2, but I disagree that you disagree that they don't have great gameplay I think just like with all the other games, it's a matter of whether or not it clicks for you
I think that, for what the games set out to do, they do a great job
random steppe
It's very interesting that the biggest flaws and the most interesting aspect of Death Standing come from the same source.
It's very obvious that Kojima is now the boss, and there is none to tell him not to do something.
So yeah, all the weird shit, the BT, the babies, the handprints, the dead sealife, etc...much of it someone from Konami would have taken a look at it and said "What the fuck is this shit, please stop, I see no huge robot launching nukes in this" which would have been a terrible decision.
But on the other hand, so much of Death Stranding would benefit from someone telling Kojima "this is too many characters, this character makes sense only in your head, please use normal names, Why Norman Reedus? Are you absolutely sure about the line: "Mario and Princess Beach"
fresh bane
and everytime I played an MGS game I was increasingly blown away at the amount of things the games allow you to do
There's a lot of experimental stuff in there but the core I've always felt is very good, I have a special fondness for the MGS4 style because Peace Walker was my first MGS as a kid on the PSP
But after playing MGS1 and more recently actually playing MGS2 because I had literally no way to play it before, I've grown very fond of that gameplay style
random steppe
We are getting unfiltered Kojima which is not always the best expeirence, but it is enteretaining, I wont deny that
fresh bane
Mario and Princess Beach is the kind of stupid stuff from Kojima games that I hate so much that I circle back to loving it because it's so Kojima but also it's so dumb
It's stupid, but it's so genuine
slim thorn
what really made Death Stranding feel surreal was how all the Americans talked about America
random steppe
He should definitely get a dad from Kentucky that doesn't play games proofread his stuff
slim thorn
I don't dislike it, but you can tell it wasn't written by an American
random steppe
It'd be a good filter
hushed onyx
I'm happy Kojima does his thing and some people like it
I just have no interest whatsoever in his thing
fresh bane
also I'm pretty sure Kojima does have people on his team that hold him back slightly from going too crazy, he doesn't handle all the aspects of a game as much as it may seem like that, Kojima's team as a whole is incredible and some have been around for so long I doubt they'd be sheepish about telling Kojima ''hey dial it back just a bit''
The thing that he doesn't have is an entity like Konami forcing him in a direction, is the thing
Remember he never wanted to do any MGS past 1 
hushed onyx
(to be honest at this point it feels like I have no interest whatsoever in any "thing")
fresh bane
by MGS4 it started to show
random steppe
I don't believe anyone is holding him back
I would have someone to swear to me that it's the case to believe it
hushed onyx
Well I guess I kind of want to play Stardew Valley, or something like Stardew Valley...maybe some VNs or something.
fresh bane
It depends a lot in what you'd describe that as, he doesn't handle all the aspects by himself he's got other people writing the games too so it's not like he's just completely unfiltered
random steppe
And I'm not even that mad about it, the fact that he is unfiltered is why we are getting the good stuff and the bad stuff.
IMO
static bluff
Dude this is weird. On a totally random server, I posted this same image.
slim thorn
I'm glad that "auteur games" with bigger-than-indie budgets are still a thing sometimes
for all DS's problems, unlike some of the MGs they never got in the way of me enjoying the experience
random steppe
I mean for me it's not new since I like Souls games, but they are indeed an acquired taste.
That and FFXIV
slim thorn
huh?
dire gate
I think DS there is Death Stranding
slim thorn
OH
random steppe
Yeah I know, I'm referring to this bit
I'm glad that "auteur games" with bigger-than-indie budgets are still a thing sometimes
slim thorn
ok that'll teach me to abbreviate things
fresh bane
I want to say Alan Wake 2 fits into the category of an 'auteur game' with a big budget, even if just a little bit
hushed onyx
Like when Nire was talking about TPP the other day and all I could think of was trade agreements
river veldt
too many game stuff with DS
slim thorn
we must be imagining different meanings then, AW2's great but I have no idea who its auteur is
hushed onyx
DS on the DS
river veldt
Dark Souls, Death Stranding, Nintendo DS
fresh bane
Yeah Metal Gear Solid V: Trans Pacific Partnership
random steppe
There was no misunderstanding, I understood you meant Death Stranding, I started writing that bit before your second line
slim thorn
oh you're saying Demon/Dark Souls was that before it got popular?
fresh bane
we must be imagining different meanings then, AW2's great but I have no idea who...
Sam Lake?
random steppe
I meant they also fit into the auteur umbrella
slim thorn
...I did not know Max Payne and Alan Wake had the same writer
fresh bane
slim thorn
now I see it
random steppe
And Control but I assume you knew that
slim thorn
well sure lol
fresh bane
He is Max Payne, and wrote Max Payne, and legally distinct Max Payne (Alex Casey)
random steppe
Considerable Distress
fresh bane
But yes Sam Lake is incredible and I feel like he's on the same level of what you mentioned as Kojima, even if just a liittle bit, just enough for me to want to bring him up but not quite the same
I feel like the direction in Alan Wake 2 is very unique and trippy and distinct (and also goes for the other games like Control)
slim thorn
I do think he's less... out there than Kojima, like I had to be told these were the same writer before I saw it
which is not a complaint of course, AW2 is excellent throughout, Kojima's never that consistent
tradeoffs
also yes I stayed in the theater level those extra 15 minutes to watch the whole short film
fresh bane
One of the things I loved the most is how ballsy Sam was to fight to include that entire sequence on the game because every single other person told him it'd be a terrible idea because it's just too silly and goofy
It's the type of thing I see Japanese games unashamedly add into games even if they're meant to be serious, like Metal Gear tends to do a lot, that I don't see western games do too much
and I really loved that
and yes the fact that that is literally just a short film crammed into the game and the game lets you watch all of it was great too
slim thorn
if you're gonna do it, that was the place to do it
fresh bane
And it's all in Swedish too
slim thorn
because it ties together so many of the random images and quotes you've seen throughout that level if you've been paying attention
fresh bane
also I want to say that || that's where Odin and Tor go into when they peace out during Saga's section against Mr Scratch, but I don't know about that or if it's been confirmed or not, just was my initial thought ||
oh also since we're bringing up DS and Alan Wake people have been doing this a lot
river veldt
this is a really funny conversation to read when i know nothing about AW
fresh bane
The funny part is it only slightly helps when you know about AW
slim thorn
I just had the dumbest idea to make Cap play Alan Wake 2
Mr Door is basically Tom Bombadil
slim thorn
fair
fresh bane
I don't know how well optimized it is but yes Alan Wake 2 is very up there in terms of games that look great and are probably demanding to play
I want to say probably one of the best looking games from recently that I've seen, complete with stuff like the seamless loading between the mind place and the regular overworld 
or the transitions from the live action stuff to gameplay
I remember the first time it swapped I was wondering for a second if it was still live action or gameplay
slim thorn
it ran fine for me, but my laptop is a tier above potato
white phoenix
happy persona 3 reload day, in light of the game's release, here's a 1:1 scale $4,500 statue of a toaster
should i get a car or this lmao
chilly mural
the toaster
white phoenix
ships from japan, the shipping costs and customs fees must be astronomical
fresh bane
ayyy
Best girl
I still haven't finished Persona 3 but I guess it's too late now because I'm inevitably gonna get spoiled
white phoenix
I mean, I'm amazed you still haven't gotten spoiled regardless
fresh bane
Honestly? Me too, I've even seen streamers talk about Persona 3 and somehow I did not get spoiled
I literally, actually legitimately don't know what the story is about past the point I played (and even then, I played this as a kid on the PSP)
I'm as blind as can be about this game
slim thorn
it helps that P3 is one of those games where people talk a lot more about the characters than the main plot
fresh bane
I think they mentioned that the story is pretty much gonna remain identical to the original, which is perfect by me, so I want to say I'm probably fine if I end up experiencing this through someone else playing it on stream or something 
as in, the story is identical so it'll be fine either way
All I know is I just can't play through it now, it's just too late, these games are outrageously long and it's just a lot more than I can pay attention to
I literally never finished P3P because I got stuck at a boss and I got simply too tired of grinding and trying and failing that I just never picked it up again
slim thorn
I certainly would not have gotten through any of them on my own, much less all 3
although Tale did get to give me the authentic experience of trying to figure out the true culprit near the end of P4
still proud I got that on the first try after much headscratching
white phoenix
nice
slim thorn
||if it wasn't an exhaustive list I would've never stood a chance||
white phoenix
I got it mildly spoiled because of all the memes of the dude lol
wasn't the list literally every character you meet though
slim thorn
not literally every
fresh bane
The only things I know about Persona 3 that I inevitably got spoiled on and gleaned from people going ''hehee huhu I bet people who play for the first time will cry at THIS PART 
'' is that || the main character dies in the end? (and also Aegis is there which makes her best girl by default 
)||
and also that you fight || the long haired shirtless guy || but I think at the point of the story I was in I had already 'met' that person so I knew he'd be a part of it at some point, but that's literally about it
I want to say I left off somewhere at the point after that annoying guy visits and goes on a date (?) with the cute goth lolita girl
ssssssomewhere around that part
ish
white phoenix
"annoying guy"
slim thorn
I want to say I left off somewhere at the point after that annoying guy visits a...
oh you got farther than I thought
white phoenix
okay so yeah it sucks that you got spoiled on that ultimate spoiler
fresh bane
Yeah I can't even pretend I remember his name I just thought he was always annoying
fresh bane
oh you got farther than I thought
Oh I played this game A LOT as a kid
white phoenix
but you still have a few big things that haven't got spoiled yet
fresh bane
It was one of the only games I played everywhere I went
Sucks that I got stuck at that one boss and never picked it up again because I legitimately just could not figure out how to get past it even after weeks and weeks, I even picked up the PSP back up again after like a year or two after the fact and still couldn't get past it
fresh bane
but you still have a few big things that haven't got spoiled yet
Hopefully the remake will have the story be identical enough that I can still experience it for the first time 
white phoenix
oh man it'll be even more heartbreaking and gut-wrenching the second time around in full 4k qhd
fresh bane
I wonder if they're gonna include those animated FMVs as in game cutscenes now
I know I missed out on a lot of those because P3P doesn't have them for whatever reason
white phoenix
there will be both anime and in-game cutscenes
fresh bane
and also P3P is more of a visual novel format than the PS2's 'walk around in the world' version
river veldt
oh yeah speaking of Persona, im gonna try out Persona 5 again
sour hill
oh yeah speaking of Persona, im gonna try out Persona 5 again
Fun! I thought that game was addicting
dire gate
You'll never see it coming
sour hill
They made the gameplay way less annoying than 4 too, imo
But 4 is definitely good as well
river veldt
i just feel like i need a game to get really into
uneven epoch
delightful choice. do u have p5 or p5r?
river veldt
p5r
uneven epoch
good good
you dont strike (heh) me as a game optimizer but if u want a day by day guide i found a pretty good one so i can fetch you a link if so desired
random steppe
I didn't know you were a big Persona fan
uneven epoch
just 5
random steppe
Or maybe I knew and I forgot
I only played 5 to completion as well
I played a bit of 4
uneven epoch
i havent actually played-played it (yet), but watchin a 100% playthrough was very helpful at start of covid
random steppe
Makes sense
it really nailed the vibe and the story beats perfectly, that said, I did have the feeling that it was a game made for people a lot younger than me.
uneven epoch
it is on my to-play list, next to "finishin" ff14 ... and baldurs gate 3 ... and mass effect trilogy ... and monster hunter world ...
so my gamin plans are booked ten years in advance
random steppe
I'm too boring to get fully engaged in "fuck the power" stories, and P5 definitely has the general "Adults can't help us, plus they are all evil, we kids have to stick together and fix the world" I noticed.
I mean they are right in that story, everyone with ||power is either willfully or unwittingly serving an evil purpose||, I am too much of an adult to just completely buy it.
uneven epoch
fair enough
random steppe
Still enjoyed it immensely, which is a testment to the characterisation
I look forward to the day Atuls will discover gay too, it'll happen at some point.
Who is your favourite character and why is Makoto?
sour hill
I like Ryuji
uneven epoch
I'm too boring to get fully engaged in "fuck the power" stories, and P5 definite...
i guess i can suspend my disbelief because. like. every single one of these characters has some kinda parental issues which, oof. it makes the internal logic hold in my eyes bc this is one distrustful bunch
though it would be nice if we could involve coffee dad more
i actually read a fanfic recently which was pretty much "persona 5 but there's no supernatural powers" n was surprised how much of the storyline could still be done but swapping the supernatural solutions with "some key adults are just slightly more proactive n as result the kids are slightly more trusting"
random steppe
I don't think it's a flaw in the story, also it works very well because of the whole Phantom Thiefs theme.
It's more not the kind of story I tend to be super invested in at this point in my life, it's not a problem of the game.
I'm more Scions speed...there is a problem...let's get our instruments out and figure exactly what the problem is before we even touch it.
We need to act very responsible, everyone remembers the ||Crystal Braves|| right? We don't want to fuck it up like that time
Alphinaud in a corner : Sigh
wind stump
wait this isn't the ffxiv thread
little badger
quiet swift
visual hill
sour hill
Y'know I thought mgs4 was a respectable game, but I do not want to play it again
Like I'm glad I played it but it doesn't hold a candle to 1-3
visual hill
the video only has Peace Walker, so I think the thumbnail is that game
peak berry
T55 wasteland style
graceful bridge
If Persona 3 Reload is running slow for you, it's probably due to the ray traced reflections
novel pine
You'll never see it coming
i love personas ost so much. its basically just jamiroquai which is epicccc. i havent played the game tho
little badger
thorny loom
. Was there really anything left to be told after 2
sour hill
i love personas ost so much. its basically just jamiroquai which is epicccc. i h...
P5 has a very solid and interesting ost
Extremely hard to hate on
Need to be an expert hater
wind stump
CW: cursed models https://youtu.be/MDjSglu4xNk
bronze abyss
Shesez mentiones
static bluff
oh wow, I haven't seen boundry break in awhile
wind stump
yeah i think he took a break because of life stuff
visual hill
CW: cursed models https://youtu.be/MDjSglu4xNk
Mario found the credentials to his YouTube account razor
wind stump
determination 
also ignore the fact i have like twelve health on the first floor, I got very lucky with an arcade 
gaunt marten
Signalis looks so fucking good and it's a shame I'm not interested in the actual game
gaunt marten
CW: cursed models https://youtu.be/MDjSglu4xNk
Who shaved mario
gaunt marten
95% of which studios? All of them?
thorny loom
Sample size of 537 from the sounds of it
https://www.paradoxinteractive.com/games/life-by-you/blog/life-update-Early-Access-Date-Change also game delays till June 4th
gaunt marten
Sample size of which studios?
random steppe
Nevermind
gaunt marten
Because it makes zero sense that 95% of indie studios are running live service games
random steppe
From what I gathered by reading a few articles, it's mostly large studious from across the globe, which makes sense, you need to have a certain size to sustain a live service game
gaunt marten
(the video is only 40 mins long)
I can totally understand 95% of major studios having at least one live service game in development
random steppe
I don't think there are 5 people studious aiming to release a live service game
If there are they are dumb
slim thorn
you know what's really useful about this result
finally we have a way to define "AAA" with more than 50% accuracy
"if you're working on a live service game, congrats, you're AAA now"
this implies Pocket Pair was AAA back when it was 2 dudes in a garage
random steppe
A game that is both developed to completion without any publisher or license interference, and is created by a single developer or small team.
slim thorn
ah
random steppe
It can have a publisher but it can't have interfered
Same for the license
I think it covers 99% of cases or more
river veldt
AAA batteries
slim thorn
or at my day job, bond ratings
which implies the existence of AA+ and AAA- developers
gaunt marten
Does Linux count SteamOS?
visual hill
yeah
gaunt marten
With that and Apple Silicon being harder to support it makes sense
visual hill
it's too bad because Apple Silicon devices are really good for the standards of integrated graphics
but nowadays, they are best used as premium emulation/source port machines
I recall people calling MacBook Airs "$1,500 Facebook machine" back in the day, it feels a lot like that again for gaming 😦
light gate
There are also rumors that Valve will discontinue macOS support.
Which if they do, it wouldn't surprise me. They already discontinued CS2.
Its just bullshit Valve couldn't bother porting CS2 even though Source 2 has been ported to macOS.
(Dota 2)
visual hill
that reminds me, I'm a bit surprised I don't see more efforts around AI/machine learning on Apple Silicon hardware, considering its integrated graphics can access the entire system memory
if you want a single fast GPU that can address 128 GB of memory or even more, a Mac Studio is likely the cheapest way to do that. In dedicated GPU land, anything past 24 GB is extremely expensive
something tells me this would have happened if CUDA didn't get such a monopoly 🙂
light gate
Heck, even a Mac Mini.
But yeah I'll consider using Linux once Valve releases their newest version of SteamOS publicly.
robust latch
a rather rich CEO i had to do work for used to use 5 mac minis to run a digital art piece in their house. 5 synchronises screen running a digital waterfall which did dynamic fluid motion and interacted by touch to change the flow over the 5 screens
they were the only thing that could drive the art display at the resolution of the screens
it took up a good porition of the wall
visual hill
the nice thing with mini PCs is that you can literally stick them to a wall 😛
light gate
And sometimes they're really quiet and not power hungry!
untold vigil
I'm still mad about P3R
sacred grove
that reminds me, I'm a bit surprised I don't see more efforts around AI/machine ...
There is, in hobbyist circles. Apple Silicon is really fast at inferencing
Language and image models can accelerate themselves on that hardware
minor belfry
Piss
Game: BeamNG.drive
Bug: Other cars not showing up
I clicked on 'My Vehicles' and I have 3. Yet it doesn't display any! I have the latest version installed with no mods.
Oh well...
peak berry
quiet swift
arctic fern
Thank god this was finally fixed
gaunt marten
I might be missing what was added
arctic fern
Eating food in the inventory plays a munching noise
arctic fern
Yeah
gaunt marten
This sounds like the sort of thing that is relatively trivial to add, but I guess the structure didn't allow it
arctic fern
Sometimes simple seeming things are more complicated than you think, othertimes it's just so low priority
I'm glad the game and dev team are at a point where they can add small things like that though
gaunt marten
No, this is not something more complicated than I think because I've done it.
Which is why I said it has to be something related to the structure of the game itself
arctic fern
That's what I said yes
wind stump
hell of a glow-up https://vxtwitter.com/syousa_en/status/1753613655558820201
elden ring? psh
TOUHOU FANGAMES? NOW WE TALKIN
quiet swift
@slim thorn you were the one to play alan wake 1 and 2, right? Almost done with Ori 2 (thanks for the help :P) and i'm thinking about playing alan wake 1. Did you go straight from 1 to 2? I'm thinking about a crpg or persona 5 after that but not sure I want to go from alan wake 1 to a possibly long alan wake 2 and then a huuuuuge lengthy game after that
slim thorn
<@283037539755884554> you were the one to play alan wake 1 and 2, right? Almost ...
I watched an LP of AW1 but technically didn't play it myself. I did play and almost 100%'d AW2.
I can't remember how long AW1 is any more. AW2 is not short... unless you're comparing it to Persona 5
EGS says I played 36.5 hours of AW2, including post-game collectible hunting
another factor is that AW1 and AW2 have a big time skip in between them, so narratively speaking it's almost ideal to do something else in between
quiet swift
Yeah, that's what I'm wondering
Though AW1 -> P5R -> AW2 would be a bit of a large skip 
quiet swift
I didn't with P4G
glossy narwhal
quiet swift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0REtSwZc9EY as usual, accurate
bronze abyss
heres a beatsaber clip from a while ago that i forgot to upload cuz why not
quiet swift
"I gotta say video game studios seems to have competitions to see who can make the best debra wilson model" - Reddit
thorny loom
Honestly I wouldn’t be shocked if at this point she was a stock model on a marketplace
random steppe
"I gotta say video game studios seems to have competitions to see who can make t...
I do wonder how these things happen sometimes
Maybe she is actually really good at working with mo-cap and acting at an imaginary things that aren't there, so word spread across gaming studious
quiet swift
Also seems to be the go-to black woman's voice in gaming
Will of the wisps finished! 
wind stump
is it 100%'d?
quiet swift
Not on steam, didn't get all chievos but I did get all the ore and health/spirit upgrades
And all the side quests
Don't care enough about it to 100% it all
wind stump
fair nuff
slim thorn
yeah, games where 100% achievements is fun to do are very rare
when I say 100% I usually mean in-game sidequests, collectibles, etc
gaunt marten
slim thorn
Ace Attorney, for example, would be a very strange game to specifically try for 100% achievements in, unless you just wanted to replay it all anyway and looked up the list as a bonus thing, the value there is in progress tracking and then seeing which of your friends happened to naturally get one of the rarer pieces of dialogue (like this)
gaunt marten
I actually tried to go for this one and I hated it https://i.imgur.com/fxbMZBE.png
slim thorn
I wonder what I missed, I definitely present-spammed Angel during at least one investigation phase
gaunt marten
Yeah. I tried to do it without looking anything up and failed even after redoing the case
slim thorn
I'm pretty sure I won't be getting the stepladder one
and not just because Edgeworth refused to make that joke
wind stump
i still haven't 100%'d VA11-HALL-A
gaunt marten
I wonder which game I have the most hours multiplied by remaining percentage of achievements on.
quiet swift
when I say 100% I usually mean in-game sidequests, collectibles, etc
I think i missed one spirit shard maybe
gaunt marten
Gee I wonder if there's a way you can do that
light gate
Making it subscription based I guess.
sour hill
add gambling
gaunt marten
Like take money from people playing the game and use it to keep the game running? Brilliant!
Doesn't the game have private servers anyway? They could just take their servers down
light gate
Like take money from people playing the game and use it to keep the game running...
I mean you don’t have to reply.
I really doubt they’ll add lootboxes or skins, their game seems to lack a few of those systems.
gaunt marten
I think they already have gobs and gobs of money from game sales.
Like, 500k is nothing
light gate
Its half a million… and assuming its per month… that is a lot of money to bleed.
Eventually game sales will slow down.
gaunt marten
It's been estimated to have already made over 150 million dollars.
Fortunately for sales slowing down, as that happens, server use will also slow down!
quiet swift
Nah that's just Flitter
gaunt marten
Sorry, I'm just talking with a neutral tone
It's just surprising to me that server cost is even a concern at the moment because it's usually more of a concern when a game is failing
light gate
Well, factoring wage payments, office rent, the usual business expenses, licensing fees on the engine plus technologies…
gaunt marten
Yeah the 150m estimate is after these costs
light gate
Eehhh
gaunt marten
The initial development cost was revealed ahead of time to be one billion yen
quiet swift
which is pittance, it's like 7 million dollars
gaunt marten
Yeah the game is wildly profitable
quiet swift
The game has sold 12 million times at 30$ so that's 360 million there. 150m after other costs is pretty damn good
sour hill
we should start a gofundme for them to make more money
light gate
i hope they’re not AWS servers.
gaunt marten
The steam fee is 20%. Engine fee is 5%, I think. Game Pass math is complicated, and the Microsoft store fee is what, 30%?
thorny loom
Microsoft has stated their helping them out now
So odds are if money becomes an issue theyll just ask to be bought
gaunt marten
The way I interpreted that announcement was that Microsoft was just assigning more resources to getting them through the update vetting process in time.
Like special concessions to help Xbox users play the game faster
random steppe
So odds are if money becomes an issue theyll just ask to be bought
It's very rare that Japan allows a japanese company to be bought by a foreign one
There are very strict regulations in place for that
random steppe
The funny meme is if Sony does as revenge for Bethesda and Activision
That said, I don't think it'd be cheap to buy right now, given how much they sold, maybe in the future when Palworld is less popular
harsh kestrel
They could honestly be able to afford all the server costs with the amount of money they've made from the like 20+ million people that have bought the game so far lol
quiet swift
12 million, and 7 mill play through game pass
bronze abyss
https://vxtwitter.com/Fergus_TK/status/1753602237199249837
reminder that you are allowed,and encouraged to bully,shame and degrade pluggers
gaunt marten
Why are people calling unplugging plugging now?
bronze abyss
because unplugger is not as good sounding as plugger
gaunt marten
That's fine because they're not good people.
bronze abyss
they are asshole,pieces of shit,dickheads,assheads,cunts,bitches,pussies,dumbasses,idiots,and dare i say - poopyheads
so much time fun and rank wasted on them
gaunt marten
You lose rank if someone disconnects while you're still connected?
bronze abyss
yoou dont lose it but you dont gain anything either
usually they play in disrespectful ways and also only plug on last round so it wasted a lot of time cuz matchmaking times also add up
fresh bane
If someone unplugs their console or router entirely then it's not counted
If someone just quits the game or disconnects forcefully then yes, of course they lose and get penalized
But that's why they unplug instead
They don't lose anything but you just wasted your time and got robbed of the opportunity to rank up or win
bronze abyss
depends on game in tekken they dont get punished cuz will somebody think of the wifi players 
(which they shouldnt be playing the game in the first place in ranked if they have bad connection)
gaunt marten
I understand
river veldt
Twitter
dense crypt
visual hill
I've gotten to Dinosaur Planet's credits screen at 60 FPS, so I can confirm you can get through the whole game this way with only a handful of issues 🙂 Here's a sampler:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D__OOnxWtKA
little badger
dense crypt
Hope they find a way to sustain themselves
Nothing but free content sounds unsustainable
gaunt marten
Stardew Valley, Terraria, Dwarf Fortress seem sustainable.
dense crypt
They make a lot of money off of their name alone, helldivers 2 would need to be able to do the same
gaunt marten
Absolutely. To be sustainable it must be a really good game!
sour hill
Jesus Christ
quiet swift
No, Crazed Lunatic
sour hill
"and I saw a dog 🐢 just like, walking around"
strong pebble
I just played Halo and one guy was saying little shit and bro and push and skidaddle all the time in circles
little badger
quiet swift
A remake of 1 through 3 and adding that on PC would be fantastic
green fulcrum
https://fxtwitter.com/tcmf2/status/1754162104234279049?
FINALLY, a remake worthy of the title! Let's hope it's beyond stellar, because the world could use more Uncharted.
little badger
FINALLY, a remake worthy of the title! Let's hope it's beyond stellar, because t...
rancid herald
interesting
little badger
gaunt marten
Ever since I saw that one meme about Indiana Jones I can't think about him with a straight face
little badger
river veldt
Ever since I saw that one meme about Indiana Jones I can't think about him with ...
what one
river veldt
https://fxtwitter.com/charlieintel/status/1754270614808920521?
that's cool
i wish it would get a Switch release
gaunt marten
The slutsona one
river veldt
that's a good meme
little badger
i wish it would get a Switch release
Maybe one day.
random steppe
It's kind of fun that Suicide Squad landed and by most accounts, it's not super worthwhile, but also it's not actually bad so everyone immediatly stopped talking about it.
gaunt marten
Yeah it's an okay game by the low standards they have
random steppe
It's just another live service game done competently it seems.
Problem being that live service is an oversaturated market, and people are annoyed by the fact that it feels like wasted potential given who is making it.
river veldt
i mean yeah i would have preferred Arkham Batman's final appearance to not be him getting killed lol
random steppe
Listenl it's a live service game, season 10 will be ||resurrect the justice league||, I would bet on it
Even more, it's a live service game based on a comicbook property.
||motherfuckers never stay fucking dead in comic books||
river veldt
kramerthatstrue.gif
||i did see a cutscene of King Shark using a Green Lantern ring which was cool lol||
||and from what little ive seen the default team has lots of chemistry||
random steppe
Seems like the weakest link in this one is mission structure
Which is usually a sore sport in live service games at the best of times, and this isn't the best of times
river veldt
yeah
fresh bane
||i did see a cutscene of King Shark using a Green Lantern ring which was cool l...
|| which doesn't make much sense since you can't just steal and take a lantern ring like that. also sucks that they decide to humilliate green lantern one more time after he dies by showing him on green lantern themed underwear when his suit disappears I know it's the suicide squad and all but I thought the deaths would be treated with a bit more drama and the team would react like ''man we're killing all the good guys left...'' instead of.... well, literally pissing on their corpses ||
random steppe
Big spoilers for future updates, now that I dug up a little bit ||people are speculating based on some leaks that the ones you fought were clones and you'll actually end up save the originals eventually, which is also why the ring doesn't work the way it's supposed to||
I wish the gameplay was better and the business model wasn't shit because it'd be fun to play through that
fresh bane
I've said it before the game even released, they should've went with the Guardians' game format of being a focused single player campaign game rather than some weird live service game with all these customization things and tiered loot and weapons and this and that
But even then there's a lot of inconsistencies, missed opportunities, weird handling of characters etc in the story so it's an even bigger mixed bag than just the gameplay being unappealing for most people
random steppe
For me at least, it's like 90% the gameplay
For the rest all I've seen looked fun story wise
It just doesn't seem to be worthwhile to play it.
river veldt
|| which doesn't make much sense since you can't just steal and take a lantern r...
||i think the rule of cool overrules anything in this case 
||
fresh bane
|| If it does for you then that's fine, but it's like saying Batman shooting guns overrides anything because it's cool ||
random steppe
I think it's also explained ||in-world why that ring works differently from what people are saying||
river veldt
||yeah but guns objectively aren't cool, while a big shark man using a Green Lantern ring to summon a giant green shark is||
slim thorn
do we need a thread for complaining about this game?
gaunt marten
#1032716748887179434
random steppe
It's largely unremarkable, which is too bad I was looking forward to a trashfire, I don't think we need a thread for it
fresh bane
I have problems with it, and I think it's bad, but I don't care nearly enough about it to go on a rant or have an entire discussion about it, I ultimately also just think it's whatever
quiet swift
Pretty much just a generic looter shooter live service
thorny loom
You know its bad when another failed game marvels Avengers had almost double your all time peak at launch
But yeah. Feel like any hype for the game died when it was shown to be a live service looter shooter
fresh bane
If there's anything worth discussing for me related to this topic is that the founders of Rocksteady (who left during the development of this game) already started their own studio with allegedly a lot of people from Rocksteady
So it's gonna be interesting keeping a lookout on what they end up doing in the future
It's really not the ideal strategy, but a lot of people especially those working in the industry started talking about developers and artists leaving companies to create their own studios being a thing that more people will do and possibly the only option to ensure they, you know, actually get to work for quite a long time on a company rather than not knowing when they're gonna get laid off but I don't know much about that whole topic to say for sure
thorny loom
Tbf. If this is there way of ending the arkham verse i guess it served its goal
Not sure whats left to do when the justice league is dead
That is assuming they actually do what the title of the game says
fresh bane
Should've just made a JLA game instead
which got me thinking, I wonder if we're ever getting a Marvel Ultimate Alliance style game ever again, but then I remembered, we did get one
I can't remember how well it did though, but I remember thinking it was nice that they actually made another one and I remember people liked it well enough
Midnight Suns also only recently started getting more popular, unfortunately it happened wayyy after what the publisher would've wanted so the hopes for a sequel are pretty much dead which sucks because I hear it's insanely good
thorny loom
if you havent bought it yet for whatever reason it probably will be
fresh bane
For anyone who hasn't purchased it sure, but even still it probably could've just been sold as a bundle on online storefronts or something, there's nothing really that incentivizes buying this version, could've thrown some of the other costumes from the OG game in there or something just to add any value to this
There's also one gun missing from RE4R right? Could've added that as well, just anything really
But yes I suppose for anyone who didn't already buy the game it's probably fine, but still feels kind of useless to make an entire new edition that's just pretty much stuff that already exists and most people already probably have...
light gate
https://fxtwitter.com/charlieintel/status/1754258277880234219?
So what you're telling me is that Microsoft is just throwing the towel after making Starfield an exclusive, and now they're just putting all their games everywhere?* Okay then...
Less reason to own an Xbox considering soon you'll see Xbox games on a PS5... 
everywhere except Apple devices lmao*
If they think I'm gonna only use Game Pass then I'm afraid they're in for a surprise, I shall not lmao.
gaunt marten
Less throwing the towel and more "guys look we promise we're not anticompetitive."
bronze abyss
So what you're telling me is that Microsoft is just throwing the towel after mak...
xbox is worth owning over ps5 just cuz of gamepass alone tbh
light gate
I mean I've used gamepass, its not worth it.
bronze abyss
ps5 has p much nothing to show for exclusives or any other significant advantage
bronze abyss
I mean I've used gamepass, its not worth it.
ive had it for a long ass time and it is,lots of great games yoyu wouldnt otherwise get a chance to play
no commitment or anything,didnt like a game?delete download a new one,no money wasted
light gate
Sure but I typically like to build my library?
Like I get it, but I still don't like subscription services regardless of whatever 'current value' it provides.
I rather just buy and support the developers than give half the money to Microsoft... well I hope its not half... I have no idea what the shares are for Game Pass and devs...
bronze abyss
gamepass still supports the devs p sure they get money for it
light gate
But how much?
Oh, they're private contracts.
So each game basically has to be negotiated, eeghh.
quiet swift
They get a larger up front commission, a larger sum to get the devs to agree to have a game on the gamepass. And then once someone downloads it, it's probably under a dollar's worth per download - no idea of exact numbers
light gate
i am getting old
quiet swift
If they end up buying it (which they do), the devs get the usual split for Microsoft/dev
quiet swift
In some cases yeah, in other cases having a game pass to try a game that ends up not feeling worth the original price tag can be good too
gaunt marten
I like DRM-Free games because they can't be revoked from my computer
random steppe
Many games I just have no interest in playing more than once
In which case game pass makes a whole lot more sense than buying them on steam
And in the off chance I want to replay a game I played on game pass chances are it will be several years down the line and I will be able to pick it up for a few bucks on a sale
slim thorn
I stopped caring about physical ownership when I realized most of the entertainment I'd bought years ago and still technically "own" was no longer usable for reasons that have nothing to do with subscriptions or digitalization
fresh bane
New classic survival horror game dropped baby let's gooo
It's only just a demo for now but I just finished going through it and it was pretty good, especially for a one man team 
👍 vibes are strong on this one
bitter stream
fair enough
speaking of survival horror, Would you recommend Signalis Nire?
I've heard good things, but I don't know much as I don't want to get super spoiled lol
kinda hard to watch a full review if you want to play it.
fresh bane
It's absolutely one of the best new survival horror games released in the last few years
Up there with survival horror classics
bitter stream
awesome thanks, hopefully it'll come on sale
I don't tend to enjoy horror, but I've seen enough fan art to want to brave this particular title
fresh bane
It can get pretty spooky but it's absolutely worth it just in general but especially for anyone who is into survival horror specifically
Funnily enough this new game also goes for a similar futuristic vibe similar to Signalis but it's a bit more laid back with it, not quite spaceships and robot girls type of futuristic
bitter stream
ah yeah, that's good to know
fresh bane
and speaking of spooky this little spook in this section here while I was testing out a weapon got me pretty good and made me run all the way to the other side of the hallway just in case
don't wanna show or say too much though since the demo just dropped and I do recommend playing it
bitter stream
ah yeah, hahah
chilly mural
harsh kestrel
CTR Nitro Fueled stopped getting support way too quickly in my opinion. It was fun as hell during it's peak. From what I've heard and seen, Crash Team Rumble is also fun
dire gate
I see P3R is out and it's generally considered as a good game, I might just go for P3P when I buy P3 solely because of female protag
also it is cheaper
hasty patio
speaking of survival horror, Would you recommend Signalis Nire?
I watched another friend play bits and pieces of it. There's horror, but most of it is going to be in the lore as well as what starts happening midway through. Imagine a liter Resident Evil and probably a faster one too (if you played/seen those normally done).
I'd recommend it if it interests you enough.
wind stump
0x8027025a or 8027025a
This may mean one of the following:
There's a temporary problem with the Xbox service
The application did not load in the time expected
There's a sign-in issue with your profile
Wow thanks Xbox app for giving me THREE DIFFERENT THINGS for the SAME DAMN ERROR
wind stump
error codes are meant to be specific, but i have to either
- figure out if xbox is dead
- figure out if the app is being trash
- my profile isn't loading
gaunt marten
No, error codes are not meant to be specific. They're meant to be helpful.
This description provides a flowchart of what you can do in case you see that error code. If it just told you "Application loading timeout error." You would probably be less equipped to solve the problem.
wind stump
fair... i'm just fustrated because i paid for game pass and i can't even use the fucking app
and it's like
"at sokme point i should just buy P3RE on steam at least it WORKS"
gaunt marten
It sucks that you're not able to use it.
If you run into this issue constantly, you can try doing a factory reset on the Xbox to make sure it's not a configuration issue
Specifically the one called reset and keep my games & apps.
Odds are, the game pass application is popular enough that they do a lot of work to make sure it works, so the problem is not likely from it (even though it still could be)
quiet swift
Did you try rebooting first?
wind stump
several. times.
gaunt marten
Yes that's one of the help article steps
wind stump
ok
so i've
uninstalled and reinstalled the app several times
tried repairing the app
tried uninstalling anything xbox related
tried resetting the app
NONE OF IT WORKS.
i stfg i am going to karen the shit out of microsoft for a Game Pass refund
gaunt marten
Try resetting the console
gaunt marten
I actually ran into the same error
wind stump
i would chalk it up to Microsoft server being dead but MY FRIEND WAS PLAYING P3RE ON GAME PASS EARLIER
bitter stream
I watched another friend play bits and pieces of it. There's horror, but most of...
Thanks for the info LunarWolves! much appreciated
little badger
green fulcrum
...Not FF16? Really?
white phoenix
Yeah, or something like hifi rush
light gate
Its the Grammys, what we’re y’all expecting?
wind stump
award shows are a sham anyway
white phoenix
Yeah probably
light gate
award shows are a sham anyway
||its only a sham if the one I want to win loses.jpeg||
white phoenix
I'll never forgive the academy for snubbing the lego movie smh
wind stump
I WILL NEVER FORGIVE THE JAPANESE
dire gate
wow so racist /j
thorny loom
Twitter
quiet swift
🥱
fresh bane
https://fxtwitter.com/discussingfilm/status/1754360112305655982?
Really? Not Hi Fi Rush?
https://youtu.be/Ano7n0ZGU2g?si=LDbdcTEtdW_-Wq7y
thorny loom
wind stump
MACHINE
I HAVE POSTED A SELFIE WITH THE FUNNY ROCK
(max0r is a treasure) ((CW: seizures, like a lotta flashing lights, this is max0r we're on about) https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxjsaXo9YZfhUjt2dnqjLx4K5C1ZzHKH_Q?si=osmG3A0TCy1fFP6D)
rancid herald
isn't this the big video game reporter guy?
the guy with all the behind the scenes stuff?
gaunt marten
Yeah
white phoenix
Wow there's enough about blizzard's downfall to make a whole ass book
That's kinda funny and sad
minor plover
ass book
white phoenix
visual hill
I recall the days when Blizzard had a huge fanbase buying any game they put out
Warcraft 3 had a 99% review score in French PC Gamer (the first game to get a score this high)
rancid herald
rip Blizzard
quiet swift
Yall missing the "and future " part there
thorny loom
Kinda a coincidence 2013 is where it went down hill
Ghosts came out that year and is considered generally when cod started to fall off in popularity
bleak lintel
StarCraft, Overwatch and World of Warcraft were both massive in players and gaming culture for a bit of time.
Blizzard is never going to hit those highs again, there's too much competition now.
hasty patio
Twitter
fresh bane
Since I'm not too knowledgeable of Warcraft I don't know if it's the case but did WoW pretty much delete any chance of Warcraft 4 being a thing?
bleak lintel
I don't think so, they could do whatever they want with Warcraft 4. WoW retcons things all the time to fit the game.
It's more their RTS team all left.
minor belfry
gasps
quiet swift
<a:yaebounce_chickenjagoo:1079379261384818738> StarCraft, Overwatch and World of...
Heck, Schreier mentions is closer to five big things. "Most companies would kill to develop just one billion-dollar cultural phenomenon — Blizzard has made five of them (Warcraft, StarCraft, Diablo, Hearthstone, Overwatch)"
bleak lintel
And if they were pitching ideas for WC4 I doubt it would ever get approval from Activisions leaderships, the numbers aren't there for the RTS genre.
quiet swift
When they get it right they get it really right. Just hasn't really been the case recently though
bleak lintel
They do fine now which is okay, they're not "fall" like Bioware where they risk being disbanded by EA.
Their games are still popular they're just not the top of their genres anymore.
little badger
fresh bane
Kinda sucks that that's how most big companies are doing things nowadays though
Unless the game can appeal to the widest audience possible and is made in a style or genre that the most people will be likely to buy then don't even think about making it, so games that would otherwise be pretty successful like RTS are games you probably won't see a AAA publisher make because of what their expectations of how a game should sell are
slim thorn
congratulations video gamers, you're a mature industry! 
fresh bane
Which is why I was so happy and blown away by a game like Hi Fi Rush
slim thorn
movies and TV are exactly the same way at the highest budgets
it's just impossible to sustain those budgets without being more pragmatic than creative
which is why so much of the best stuff comes out of studios with less-than-blockbuster funding
river veldt
i remember loving The Witch and then i was astounded the budget was only 4 million dollars
slim thorn
back when I paid more attention to movies, the analysts kept saying Blumhouse was doing really well at mid-budget well-received horror movies that fly under the radar if you're not into the genre
(I did see Happy Death Day, that was great fun)
river veldt
yeah that's Blumhouse's big thing, making cheap movies that easily return a profit
not that that's a bad thing !
Get Out was a Blumhouse movie that i really liked
slim thorn
wow I forgot Get Out was them
slim thorn
not that that's a bad thing !
I like to think of it as: someone had to make it big with a Minecraft before the blockbuster/AAA games like Breath of the Wild could adopt crafting mechanics
river veldt
haha it doesn't feel like them
slim thorn
even in a hypothetical world with inexplicably consistently benevolent corporations, risk is a thing, and there's a certain level of risk that's just not acceptable to all the employees you need to pay salaries for at the end of the day
river veldt
wtf Blumhouse did BlacKkKlansman
fresh bane
which is why so much of the best stuff comes out of studios with less-than-block...
I want to say whether or not that's "solvable" by just not expecting every single thing you put out to be the next avengers in terms of sales and cultural impact and instead make lower budget lower scale stuff but I'm not sure because hey I'm not a businessman, but I also can't imagine that this is the only possible state of things and we just have to kinda throw our hands in the air
grave tide
<a:yaebounce_chickenjagoo:1079379261384818738> StarCraft, Overwatch and World of...
Blizzard is never going to hit any highs, because internal Microsoft studio
fresh bane
Kinda like how in an interview recently I don't remember who said that a remake of FF6 would take like, 20 years to complete if it was remade in the same way as FF7
And I just think, maybe don't do a remake like FF7 then, right?
slim thorn
I think it's a combination of a) a lot of that lower budget stuff exists, and b) a lot of people never go looking for it so they only hear about the stuff with infinite marketing spend, but c) there's also some genuine truth to the idea that certain companies get too fixated on gambling for megahits when they could make better products by gambling smaller
I'm not gonna take that interview as evidence because none of us read it, only the tweet taking one line out of context
fresh bane
People not looking for it is true, but that's why it's lower budget and lower scale, because you already do this thing expecting it to appeal to a lesser audience than mainstream but still enough for it to be successful, and if it performs even better then hey that's a plus
But yes I don't pretend it's a super simple answer, but at the same time I don't think they're in any particular rush to "fix" this issue either
slim thorn
I do wish more of the people who complain about max budget products being samey would go looking for the smaller stuff they claim to want
sometimes it is very obivous they just haven't looked
fresh bane
Hey I do!
river veldt
yeah, there are so many indie games out there
slim thorn
like imagine someone ranting about how bad all the modern Silent Hills are and then it turns out they've never heard of Signalis
fresh bane
Last night I was even talking about this new survival horror game demo that dropped, I got my ear to the ground for this stuff
But yeah that also happens
slim thorn
I was looking for the game name when I saw those clips and then found you going "oh whoops didn't name it"
fresh bane
I got asked a question and got completely sidetracked
slim thorn
heck, these days it's even routine for me to recommend certain indie games to my mom
Chants of Sennaar was a big hit
fresh bane
Unfortunately not a lot of us have cool parents who we could recommend games to 
The funny part is I'm sure my dad for example would probably enjoy videogames if he wasn't so stuck with the "I'm a grown adult what am I gonna do playing games/watching animated stuff"
I want to say that's probably also most people's parents too
slim thorn
except for the parents who play cow clickers
fresh bane
Oh yeah
I remember having friends in school as a kid that their parents would be way into the games on facebook
The proto mobile games
random steppe
Chants of Sennaar was a big hit
Mom has good taste, Chants of Sennaar is so good.
slim thorn
one of our funniest family chats was probably when dad started teasing mom about the game she was playing where she was trying to collect every color of phoenix or whatever it was, and I ended up explaining that in my world these are called "cow clickers" (which they'd never heard before and found hilarious) and she even had a story about why Farmville didn't appeal to her
quiet swift
There's a WOW player that regularly streams on twitch. I believe she's a 82 year old grandmother
slim thorn
Mom has good taste, Chants of Sennaar is so good.
I need to ask if she found time to finish it, I know she made it to zone 3
gaunt marten
She was playing World of Warcraft ever since she was sixteen when it launched.
slim thorn
I don't remember if it took me more total time, but it was very noticeable that the "I have no idea what anyone's saying" phase lasted longer
on the other hand, by the time I got enough information for stuff to make sense, I had a LOT of clues, so a LOT made sense all at once
flint iron
My parents weren't cool enough to play indie games, they would only play family games like Mario Party, Wii bowling or Mario Kart
slim thorn
to be fair, I didn't have to sell them super hard on this stuff
I grew up watching my mom play the Myst series
hasty patio
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1840080/Homeworld_3/ For those interested, there is a HW3 "War Games" Demo you can try out during Next Fest this week.
flint iron
I grew up watching my mom play the Myst series
Dang thats rare and pretty cool to have a parent play adventure games a long time ago
quiet swift
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1840080/Homeworld_3/ For those interested, th...
"Conquer the universe in the new three player co-op mode fusing Homeworld’s RTS gameplay with roguelike inspiration."
Ooh. Millenia and Stormgate demos too...
visual hill
Tribes 3 demo is out, anyone wants to try it this weekend?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2687970/TRIBES_3_Rivals/
quiet swift
slim thorn
I remember trying a Tribes game a looong time ago and finding that (even in single player) I'm too bad at it to enjoy it
visual hill
it is pretty challenging with the skiing mechanic, reliance on mid-air shots, etc
untold vigil
Ooh are we dunking on the trash fire that is modern capitalist design philosophy?
Lemme in, I wanna get my whacks in
flint iron
I'm really hoping the gba Yugioh games are included in that collection
Wait I'm blind, the picture to the right says gameboy advance
fresh bane
A lot of those early games were GBA/GBC so yeah probably, the one in the pic is just the one that's already been confirmed to be in it since it was previously a Japan exclusive
quiet swift
slim thorn
that would explain a lot
speaking of all the reasons to play more indies, I felt like trying Lenna's Inception tonight
gaunt marten
How is it?
slim thorn
first impressions are good but too early to say much
quiet swift
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1993450/Yet_Another_Fantasy_Title_YAFT/ ooh. I linked this a few days ago, basically seemed like GTA in a fantasty setting. Demo's out
minor plover
live: balatro full version stream https://steamcommunity.com/broadcast/watch/76561199386630002
slim thorn
lmk what you think
progress report: I accidentally (actual hidden sidequest spoiler) ||dated the librarian||
fresh bane
The funniest part about this is that you know he's using these lego sets for developing games like he did with Death Stranding 
river veldt
he used lego sets ,,??
fresh bane
He's also tweeted before using this same method but the images were a rough storyboard or planning for the beginning of Death Stranding
random steppe
I think people like Kojima because he is doing what most nerds would do if we were in his position.
Just fucking have a bunch of fun, dipping his toes in 20 things at once, and making what he wants to make.
river veldt
https://youtu.be/L6aPAncMHKA?si=wY_MSiiFLJ9_MmOo
holy shit that's so cool
green fulcrum
https://vxtwitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/1754368938455257502
I want this set so badly, but it was sold out in minutes. People really love Dune it seems
visual hill
https://youtu.be/L6aPAncMHKA?si=wY_MSiiFLJ9_MmOo
it must hurt when you step on the Metal Gear Solid level in real life
fresh bane
Snake steps on a lego replica of metal gear while sneaking and does the reverberated Aaaagghh!
dire gate
Snake? Snake! SNAAAAKEEEEE!!!!
thorny loom
dire gate
Nintendo has released some official quarterly statement
It seems MK8D sales has finally hit 60m+ copies
TotK has sold 20m+, SMBW has sold almost 12m
Pikmin 4 and SMRPG sold about 3m copies each
BotW sales surpassed 30m
harsh kestrel
It makes me wonder where Princess Peach Showtime is gonna sit after a while
I'm also wondering how the more recent Kirby games have been doing
dire gate
It seems the list only contains games that sold 1m+ during 3 quarters(April~December 2023)
Kirby is not in it
But iirc Forgotten Land did pretty well when it came out, RtD deluxe also did pretty well? I think?
Also Switch hardware sales is almost 1.4m, it may have very well sold over 1.4m considering the last data is from Dec 31 2023
Still have over 100k to go if it wants to be the second most sold console
quiet swift
wind stump
*it's not out yet but for anyone craving a Bloodstained replay it's something to consider
gaunt marten
I wish they'd stop making empty content for that game and either work on polish or move on.
wind stump
Well...
As you may know, we are getting close to the release of update 1.5 for Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night. The update will include Chaos and Vs modes, as well as three new premium (paid) cosmetic packs for Miriam.
Dunno why they didn't lead with that
other than midriffs for idiots like me
gaunt marten
I did read the announcement, and the only thing I'm interested in is chaos mode, I guess.
wind stump
Guessing it's a in-built randomiser?
gaunt marten
It's cooperative online objective based multiplayer
dire gate
Made my first custom 8+ excitement coaster 
gaunt marten
Nice work. What's it look like?
gaunt marten
Pretty nice
dire gate
I'm playing the Rollercoaster Heaven Scenario in rct2 expansion
Wanted to polish my custom coaster making skill
gaunt marten
Yeah. You should make a dueling coaster!
dire gate
I should try next time, but I'm starting to running out of spaces
And also since it's 10 different types of coasters, dueling coasters actually don't help much
I hate the fact that they want you to make 10 different types of coasters with 7+ excitement and 1km+ ride length, and then casually put Reverse Freefall Coaster in it
How am I supposed to build a 1km long reverse freefall coaster with 7+ excitement
(it has 13 coaster types total, so I don't have to build it)
...or maybe I can, I actually haven't checked how long the map is
gaunt marten
Reverse freefall is pretty easy to make dueling
dire gate
Maximum size:
73,760m²
I feel like a 1km reverse freefall will struggle to fit in that size
gaunt marten
1000<73760
dire gate
I am definitely getting used to making custom coasters
finished 6/10 required coasters for the scenario
gaunt marten
I remember struggling a lot with that scenario. It's one of the better ones because of the requirement
dire gate
It is pretty decent, the only problem is that you literally cannot fail but it also means that you can practice as much as you can
It also has a pretty reasonable requirement, unlike Alcatraz(Prison Island) which is so stupidly easy
quiet swift
5x. Which is what I have set it as 🩸
gaunt marten
Do tell me how you feel about the game
Dwarf is now a tag on Steam! https://i.imgur.com/bT4yg8E.png
quiet swift
Two chars in the intro are talking to each other, and the language highly reminds me of magika's gibberish language 
That's off to a good start, in my opinion. It's not taking itself seriously at all which is exactly what that trialer's leading me to expect
gaunt marten
Sounds good
quiet swift
An old mage named "Grindalf"...
gaunt marten
They should give him pistols and call him gundalf
quiet swift
5x blood doesn't look like a lot of blood so far. I was expecting oceans
visual hill
I was playing around with edgefriction variable in Quake, you can set it to negative values which makes you speed up (and therefore slip) if you approach a ledge
(default is 2, it's vanilla behavior that QuakeWorld source ports have abandoned, but QuakeSpasm and derivatives kept it)
maybe there's a map concept to make from this 🙂
quiet swift
I saw someone say this is like grand theft auto... 2? in fantasy land, anbd yeah. It def has that feeling, top down angle and all
little badger
sour hill
Bloodstained, aka not-Bloodborne
gaunt marten
I sleep
river veldt
no it's more like Bloodstained aka definitely not Castlevania
sour hill
I don't know anything about it other than the title looks like Bloodborne to me
river veldt
it was a Kickstarter game
the director was a Castlevania guy but left Konami because Konami is a black hole
sour hill
Impressive that he left a black hole
Man black holes are really scary
They really freaked me out as a kid
river veldt
black hole suddenly appears on earth
sour hill
That'd be it
river veldt
secret :3
sour hill
I knew I'd never just like, encounter one, but as a kid I'd still imagine what it'd be like to be hurtling towards one. Like "What would you do in this situation?"
thorny loom
river veldt
I knew I'd never just like, encounter one, but as a kid I'd still imagine what i...
this will definitely affect the trout population
sour hill
I am not a trout!
sour hill
i never implied you were....
If me hurtling towards a black hole affects the trout population, then it kind of does imply that. Unless I happen to be holding a trout at the time
river veldt
youre always holding a trout
sour hill
No I'm not
river veldt
you just dont know it
sour hill
My thing isn't holding a trout all the time. I don't have a trout schtick