general gaming

[quiet swift]

when you go afk

[harsh kestrel]

That lava on max brightness with that

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

Lol

[quiet swift]

I mean. It's lava.

[harsh kestrel]

I is making joke lol

[thorny loom]

@wind stump guess what

Were not done with Skyrim yet https://store.ign.com/products/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-ultimate-edition-vinyl-box-set-ign-exclusive-color

[wind stump]

it just works

[quiet swift]

After starfield was more starfailed, they gotta do something~

[slim thorn]

wait, did it fail? financially speaking?

[river veldt]

this is actually super cool

[slim thorn]

I know there's a lot of Bethesda angst surrounding it but my impression was it sold well and the relevant angst is several games old at this point

[quiet swift]

It likely has but I think they were probably hoping for the same type of acclaim as Skyrim, which Starfield distinctly has not received

[slim thorn]

true, their formula was fresh back when Skyrim was new

[thorny loom]

Financially im sure it did fine. But reception afterwards was mediocre to bad

[quiet swift]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2023/10/18/despite-game-pass-starfield-was-the-best-selling-game-of-september/

[wind stump]

https://youtu.be/EHrOOEcQ3QA

lmao, the timing

but there's no dedicated fallout (series and not just 76) thread and i wanted to share a video from a creator i like, i should sub to their Patreon

[quiet swift]

[wind stump]

XENOS

EXTERMATUS!

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/wario64/status/1750549697083716010?

[quiet swift]

...I just had a nurgling moon me.

[fresh bane]

wanted to share this Code Veronica clip in here too since it's just way too funny not to

[quiet swift]

https://vxtwitter.com/QuitevFX/status/1750572872551272708

[visual hill]

hey at least it's not a HDR screenshot viewed on a HDR display

that can be eyesearing with the right kind of display

[little badger]

Microsoft is going digital only now. https://fxtwitter.com/charlieintel/status/1750590864458739996?

[wind stump]

Game Pass be fire doe

ASIDE FROM THE NEW YAKUZA RELEASING TOMORROW INSTEAD OF BEING RELEASED NOW LIKE IT IS ON FUCKING STEAM MICROSOFT

THIS CLOSE to getting Game Pass. THIS FUCKING CLOSE.

[light gate]

Its better to just buy it on Steam.

[wind stump]

look, i love yakuza

but it's not £60 love

[light gate]

yeah... this is why things are turning/becoming subscription services...

We need to buy games again.

[rancid herald]

come on eu, make physical media releases mandatory

you can do it

[thorny loom]

This lines up with the walmart starfield leaks

[rancid herald]

starfield leaks?

[thorny loom]

Memo from walmart leaked couple weeks back stating they were gonna begin shipping back or destroying any physical copies of starfield they had on the publishers orders

[sour hill]

Would there be any point to this? You can still have all the drm you want on discs, yeah?

[thorny loom]

#1032716748887179434 message

[rancid herald]

physical media is yours forever, digital media can be removed from your account

[thorny loom]

For most part yes

[little badger]

[astral steeple]

https://vxtwitter.com/tha_rami/status/1750532050833322419

[rancid herald]

yeah it's not looking good

[thorny loom]

Yeah industry experts have said this year will be a “bloodbath” in layoffs

[quiet swift]

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/games-industry-leaders-braced-for-up-to-two-years-of-pain

[thorny loom]

Yeah that one is better and not paid wall lol

[random steppe]

I wonder who they interviewed, because players are buying games a ton it seems to me, I wonder if it's big devs that see a lot of their market share starting going to indies after they pushed out the 3rd lootershooter and none wants to play it

Because in which case, yeah for sure, you should be worried, start making real games

[grave tide]

But you know, everyone wants to be like Fortnite

Make billions money per second

Single AAA can't make that money

You have to work, sadge

Easier make another shitty battle royal, hi Ubisoft

If you make 999999999 games in one genre, you will succeed

[random steppe]

To be fair, Ubisoft did experiment this year

Prince of Persia The Lost Crown seems pretty stellar

And while it's not exactly out of their one genre, the Avatar one seems to be pretty good as well.

[gaunt marten]

The layoffs are a natural result of companies all over the industry expanding when it was easy to do so, hoping that it would pay off later.

They're not actually correlated with a direct drop in profits

[harsh kestrel]

Remember people. All subscription services. No physical media. Don't get used to what you buy. That's where things are heading, and the future generations are gonna just accept that and feel like it's normal

[bronze abyss]

TO BE FAIR
thats also partly consumers fault,especialy for the mass switch to digital

digital was way too glorified in the 2010s and then oops suddenly physical is gone

now its a luxury

[harsh kestrel]

I'm not gonna lie, yeah, the consumers kinda did cause it to an extent. I agree on that. I just didn't wanna sound like an ass playing the blame game to anyone specific

[bronze abyss]

im not saying corpo not at fault just tthat people definitely did contribute a lot to it

[harsh kestrel]

[random steppe]

I will die before I have to shove anoter physical plastic disk anywhere in my house

I have literally boxes full of the stuff

[bronze abyss]

id like some more physiacl stuff but im not particularry attached to it

hell i traded out my 3ds physical collection for a n3dsxl with just pirated digital copies

[harsh kestrel]

That's gonna start becoming a lot more common if the gaming industry keeps going in the direction it's going

[slim thorn]

physical media also gets weirdly glorified a lot

most of the physical discs I once owned are useless now because of format changes and region changes and just general wear and tear

digital media is way easier to preserve and back up (for things which can be digitized)

also, the last few physical discs I did buy were glorified DRM keys, so just mandating "physical" wouldn't even mitigate the problem, likely it'd only make it worse

the problem is DRM, not digital-ness

[light gate]

Yeah if I could keep my digital games or at least not have the possibility of losing them, that’d be great.

I don’t mind physical discs but honestly I’ll never understand why nobody wanted to make a cartridge for said disc. Like MiniDiscs, at least those don’t scratch that easily!

It would be cool to have a cartridge minidisc case for a blu-ray disc.

[fresh bane]

I don't think anyone who currently complains about digital actually necessarily disagrees with digital fundamentally or is against it, I'm pretty sure everybody agrees that it's far more convenient and makes things far more accessible, the only problem is when you slowly start shifting to only digital because it's just so much more convenient but you reach the point where you realize ''oh, but because things are fully digital now it means I can't actually own the stuff I buy/whoever owns the product I purchase can just take it away at any moment they want or otherwise make it entirely unavailable''

[sour hill]

This is what I was alluding to earlier because I was 90% sure this was a common thing but didn't feel like looking it up

[fresh bane]

So when people want things to go back to physical or they're against digital I think they really just are against DRM in general because it being digital doesn't directly have anything to do with that, a lot of physical releases of games nowadays are basically just the same thing and sometimes they don't even have any disc at all it's just some key for downloading the game

[harsh kestrel]

Well, we still do have to deal with the issue that you're gonna have to pay overly high subscriptions for basically everything in the future and have to worry about anything and everything you own being taken from you

[thorny loom]

proceeds to give floppy discs

[quiet swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IysKcX8EUJM Grand Theft Tamriel...

[wind stump]

...

i need it

[green fulcrum]

Looks like a jolly good time. Hopefully it's good!

[quiet swift]

[fresh bane]

Seeing the stereotypical wizard looking guy reminds me of this new worthikids animation
https://youtube.com/shorts/6XEOl0hw0RY?si=YrNoi4hLzw7GC9WV

it's so good

[river veldt]

yoo he has a bong

[fresh bane]

I also just now realized the staff wand is a bong

[river veldt]

it's like how Gandalf kept his pipe in his staff

[quiet swift]

I did not realize it was a bong

[sour hill]

How did you get this footage of me?

Delete this please

[wind stump]

this reminds me of The Last Unicorn
and that dumbass wizard

[light gate]

This gives me Nox levels of comedy vibes.

And Magicka.

[quiet swift]

(at actiblizz) "My last message before my Slack was deactivated"

[cloud tree]

Who's that

[young creek]

providing value 💪

[cloud tree]

Oh

[fresh bane]

https://youtu.be/bzJX0VdKxBk?si=egSCexj1JzpKVrN-

God dammit this one is actually so damn good

that speed mod too actually thinking of browsing some mods for bomb rush to see if people have made any cool gameplay changing mods or something besides skins

Ultimate Lifeform Gaming over here

[visual hill]

he actually fits in really well visually

[fresh bane]

there's a Surge mod too

a bunch of Sonic mods for this, all of them fit in super well

[harsh kestrel]

That's a hella good model for her

[fresh bane]

I'm surprised that Sonic games don't go for this style too often because it looks perfect for Sonic

[harsh kestrel]

The style kinda reminds me of Hifi Rush

[thorny loom]

Oy my

Thats a lot of microtransactions

[visual hill]

infinite wealth… but for who?

[thorny loom]

https://x.com/fortnitegame/status/1750616130174234859?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

Fortnite (@FortniteGame) on X

Remember Fortnite on iOS?

How bout we bring that back.

Later this year Fortnite will return in Europe on iOS through the @EpicGames Store.
(shoutout DMA - an important new law in the EU making this possible). @Apple, the world is watching.

Twitter · Jan 25, 2024, 8:26 PM

[slim thorn]

@fresh bane fyi, there's an Archipelago randomizer mod for Bomb Rush Cyberfunk

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/charlieintel/status/1750652085664637048?

[hasty patio]

That might be the last physical console they push out.

[sour hill]

I'd sooner get a ps5, but I really appreciate how they made the series x an obelisk

[little badger]

I have both but I prefer PlayStation.

[sour hill]

tbh though if discord user agentsparkle is right about the demon's souls remaster coming to pc then I wouldn't feel any need to ever get a ps5

idk why I phrased it like that, that sounded kinda mean

It's not like he made up the rumor

[gaunt marten]

Obelisk and asterisk

[river veldt]

the monolith

[quiet swift]

Aaaaand that's boltgun uninstalled. Got to the final level of chapter 2 (of 3) and it's an absolute bullshit fight against the last boss who constantly summons new guys, and I just can't keep up long enough to deal enough damage to him. Gotten him down to 25% but I'm no longer having fun. Also can't adjust difficulty level as is more common nowadays

[hasty patio]

Sorry to hear that.

[quiet swift]

If they had a bit more healing, it woun't be so bad. But there's very little, and he constantly spawns mobs, both small and big/miniboss ones and it just gets too overwhelming and too much damage to survive

[quiet swift]

plays Ori 2 instead

And oh man the ||grapple|| is so good

[strong pebble]

I tried to play Ori but I think it's for smart people or something

I'm good at games but some games are suddenly difficult. Like Ori and Hollow Knight

[slim thorn]

huh, Ori's usually the one I recommend for people new to Metroidvanias because it's the gentlest of the top-tier ones

Hollow Knight is much more brutal

[strong pebble]

I think I sometimes don't know where to go

[slim thorn]

there should always be a map marker for the next main objective

[strong pebble]

Did you finish Hollow Knight Ixrec?

Do you know what is Void Heart Edition?

[slim thorn]

I don't have the editions memorized but Ori and HK are both all-time favorites for me that I've 100%'d (well, HK I think I got 109% there's a few extra DLC percent that I lack the skill for), and HK's one of the games I sometimes bring to #1119170161518334004 sessions

[random steppe]

Hollow knight essentially only has one edition

[strong pebble]

Ok im going to try and beat them

I can beat any game if I really try

[random steppe]

They call the void heart edition the version with all the DLC applied

But all dlcs were free upgrades

[strong pebble]

Are DLCs more levels?

[random steppe]

Not exactly

It's mostly more bosses and charms

Even tho they did add some small areas here and there

[sonic dune]

I do not like the cultists in Cult of the Lamb

All they're asking me to do is either feed them poop or feed other cultists poop as a "prank"

[random steppe]

[sonic dune]

I don't wanna feed anyone poop

This one cultist has asked me to feed one specific other one poop three times now

[strong pebble]

I think thats a joke

[sonic dune]

It's too much

It stops being funny pretty fast

Poor Paarmer is sick now

[strong pebble]

It's not really in the game right?

[slim thorn]

I just realized this Hollow Knight question is a reply to an Ori comment, which makes no sense unless this was confused: my map marker comment was referring to Ori, not to HK; HK is very much the "figure it out yourself" kind of game (which is a large part of the appeal if you're up for that)

[strong pebble]

No I was asking if you finished Hollow Knight

Because I want to finish both of them

[river veldt]

Hollow Knight makes me lost

[slim thorn]

you are meant to be lost for a while in HK

[strong pebble]

I'll start with Ori I think

[river veldt]

why aren't there any objective markers /j

[strong pebble]

That's what I was thinking but I was 12 and I think I can beat it now

[quiet swift]

sacrifice them

[sonic dune]

[CotL]
First boss: defeated on first try
Second boss: defeated barely after 7 tries
Third boss: defeated on first try

[sonic dune]

Half of my followers loose faith to sacrifices

Also the guy doing it is level IIX

Oh boy

Alno has another mission

I swear to The One Who Waits if you make Paarmer eat more shit...

[feral tulip]

Classic ace attorney

[worldly summit]

https://twitter.com/lovelive_SIF_GL/status/1750407445552480274 current state of gacha games

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【Global Launch Notice】
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Twitter · Jan 25, 2024, 6:37 AM

the game will be shut down 3 months after it launches

[dense crypt]

sol

[dire gate]

To be fair it was simply bad

It is likely that they had some contract reasons so they had to launch the global server at one point

[fresh bane]

https://vxtwitter.com/hifiRush/status/1750502535624831065

man no way it's been a year already

I guess obligatory recommendation to anyone who for whatever reason still hasn't played this game

[strong pebble]

This is one of the best games I ever played 💖💖

[rare garden]

"EAT SHIT AND DIE PAARMER!"
-One of Melody's cultists

[harsh kestrel]

It makes me wonder if they'll release a sequel

[rotund forge]

I got Another Code Recollection. The demo was intriguing and the character designs look charming
I love puzzle mysteries
I'm a Layton fan for corn sake lol

[rotund forge]

I haven't fought Rekka yet because I'm waiting for a controller lol.

[white phoenix]

good decision, I can't imagine having to play this with a keyboard

[fresh bane]

[thorny loom]

Since original article is pay walled

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nintendo-next-switch-coming-lcd-025917866.html “Nintendo Co. will launch a new game console this year with an 8-inch LCD screen, according to Omdia analyst Hiroshi Hayase”

[harsh kestrel]

So the screen sounds like it's not gonna be much of a change from what we currently have

[sonic dune]

Alno got old and old people are kinda useless so Paarmer got the last laugh if you know what I mean

[rare garden]

eat the old

midsommar moment

[sour hill]

that was a neat movie

[sonic dune]

Nah we didn't do that

Why would I make Paarmer eat another piece of shit?

[rare garden]

then make old Alno jump off the cliff - midsommar reference

or sacrifice em for gold

so many ways to make a profit

[sturdy tundra]

Concept art for a new game in development from the Playdead studio

The developers are working on their third project, which will differ from previous works with a new camera perspective and more open locations, but at the same time will remain true to the cold and gloomy atmosphere of loneliness and hopelessness.

[dense crypt]

everything is huge here

[sturdy tundra]

Yes, there is something similar from this game in style
https://youtu.be/op4G1--kb-g?si=rOq8-Di5tGkLV6kA

[dense crypt]

neat

[proud warren]

makes me think of somerville

[fresh bane]

Inside is still such a cool and unique experience

[fresh bane]

https://vxtwitter.com/1d1ot___/status/1750438783752015872

no way

she's real

[proud warren]

"THE 808!! IS REEEALL!!!"

[fresh bane]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-fi-rush-808-808nod-hi-fi-rush808-nod-gif-27480237

[bronze abyss]

Im gonna be ballin so hard(not sugar coated)

[proud warren]

what'd ya get?

[bronze abyss]

Tekken 8

It released like rn and i insta tly got it

[bitter stream]

oooh Enjoy!

I'm still learning tekken 7 atm, that'll take me long enough that tekken 8 will be on sale for cheap haha

[bronze abyss]

Well good news you wont have to learn as mych movement cuz tekken 8 nerfed it

Bad news for me though cuz its a primary part of my gameplay but the char i play has the best movement in the game so i should still be able to manage

[bitter stream]

yeah fair enough

I don't think I'll ever learn k-dashing lol

not invested enough

How's the heat and burst dash thing?

[bronze abyss]

heat is whatever not the biggest fan of it i still believe that defense is the core of tekken gameplay and should be endorsed more

[bronze abyss]

tbf,you really dont need kbdash until like really high up,if you play ranked youll notice people dont actualy use movement unti like 20th dan

but its a part of the game i loved the most so i learned it early on

[dire gate]

I still find it funny that they just named it after a whole country

[quiet swift]

https://insider-gaming.com/blizzard-survival-game-cancelled-engine/

"There was a team of around 100 people working on Odyssey, but it was never enough. Recently, a melting pot of technical issues, engine-based struggles, stakeholder unease, and a release window that was being pushed ever further back brought about the end of Odyssey before it could be officially revealed."

[sage iris]

Blizzard is incapable of making good games anymore so no big loss for us

[quiet swift]

Pretty insightful

[wind stump]

i blame bobby

swing and a miss, Microsoft. Swing. And. A. Miss.

This close to getting Game Pass.

ah well, wait for a Steam sale, ig

probably for the best, given my backlog, YES I WILL GET BACK TO OCTOPATH AT SOME POINT

[quiet swift]

[wind stump]

(see #1197950576256876654 for my gambling exploits and yelling about VAs)

[strong pebble]

Game Pass is the best thing and youtube premium too

[arctic fern]

Youtube premium sucks
Just use ad blockers and revanced or newpipe

[strong pebble]

I use phone only and youtube premium is the best

[arctic fern]

Revanced or newpipe

Revanced especially, literally all of youtube premium for free

[strong pebble]

Can make a floating window, can listen on turned off screen, can download and listen without internet

[arctic fern]

Yep

[strong pebble]

Also works on Xbox

[wind stump]

you know what else has floating window?
OPERA GX THE SPONSOR OF THIS VIDEO

i dunno if that works on mobile because i don't have it there, lol

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/ubisoft/status/1750881800426078582?

[quiet swift]

(reinstalled boltgun, tried the level again. For some reason it didn't spawn even half as many mobs as usual and I won this time. Fucking hell)

[thorny loom]

Not surprising. People have been saying current trends were going to result in a gaming recession for years

[quiet swift]

Indeed. That, and overlap of roles since each of these divisions (acti, blizz, king) would probably have their own publishing divisions and whatnot, there's many roles that could be cut

Not necessarily a good idea to do so as say someone from Microsoft in the same role might not know the ins and outs and details and whatnot of doing the same role for say, WOW over a different game, but.. cuts were made already

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/dyinglightgame/status/1750899346197893423?

[visual hill]

the game felt your frustration somehow, that's impressive

[quiet swift]

Indeed.

[rancid herald]

I guess this is more general that palworld flavored

I do kind of wonder if we're heading towards a video game crash like we saw in the 80s or whenever it was

games cost a lot to make, but I'm not sure they're making a lot

[gaunt marten]

They should not cost a lot to make

[quiet swift]

It depends on the game, honestly

[gaunt marten]

All the games I like cost very little to make

These games are not headed into a crash. The stagnant AAA game industry can rot and die for not learning a valuable lesson.

[rancid herald]

that would be a crash

[quiet swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mAlnkHH9us He talks about the recent sony leaks, in the sense of learning more details about how much Spidey 1 and 2 cost, how much they need to sell to make back the cost and where some of that funding comes from. It's an interesting one

[rancid herald]

yeah

[quiet swift]

Mind you this is a more unique case of an AAA but SP game, compared to these AAA multiplayer craziness stuff that we also see. So it's this particular type of cinematic experience games (god of war, spidey, TLOU, etc) rather than others

[unreal idol]

[rancid herald]

Spidy is weird because like

[unreal idol]

I look forward to the AAA implosion

[rancid herald]

they already had all the models

[quiet swift]

But it'll answer some of your questions, I think

[rancid herald]

and redid them anyway

[quiet swift]

I think he goes into details for prices of spidey/spidey 2/miles morales differences

[rancid herald]

yeah

[quiet swift]

https://youtu.be/U2CqUuszLzk

[bitter stream]

curious looking title

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/genki_jpn/status/1750873725594132584?

[random steppe]

To be fair, it's kind of hard to belive the whole industry will crash when interest in video games is the higher that's ever been.
maybe specific sectors or genres would, that's more belivable

[gaunt marten]

That's what I'm saying

[random steppe]

But we had these times of ebbs and flows several times since the 80s
RTS died, MMOs died for a very long time.

I'm not sure this would be much different

[gaunt marten]

This time it's bigger in scale

[random steppe]

IDK I'm not convinced it's not just overinvesting post covid leading to a contraction.
I'd have to see at least some mid sized studious starting to go under.

[gaunt marten]

It is overinvesting post covid leading to a contraction!

[random steppe]

It's not really a crash then, it's a contraction.

[harsh kestrel]

Go figure that Bobby Kodickhead had to mess up one more thing before leaving Microsoft with Like A Dragon with another greed filled annoyance

[random steppe]

Or at least it's not comparable to the 80s crash so far if we want to call it a crash

[gaunt marten]

Well the thing is it might lead to a crash

[random steppe]

To be clear, nothing would make me more happy than have these old giants shrink and see indie games getting more spotlight, even tho the cost to the employees is tragic when that happens.

I'm just not seeing it happening

[harsh kestrel]

We're heading in a greed filled direction of subscription services, not getting used to owning what we buy, possible plagues of piracy way worse than it ever has been as a result, and mass layoffs for AI to cut costs that'll no doubt fuck over these employees anyway

[glad girder]

Detailed analysis aside right now we’re at a point where aaa developers are purposefully building even more complex games that require insane amounts of labor and resources and it’s at the expense of things like core gameplay loops and functionality that drive interest in a game. Studios think it’s impossible to do anything because they’re used to doing the metaphorical equivalent of moving individual grains of sand with a pair of tweezers

[random steppe]

The AI thing is a completely separate problem, from the companies perspective it wouldn't lead to a crash but would work against it.
The greed part is there, but was there years ago and if anything I feel like it is getting better.

Most big games basically abandoned the lootbox model which was much scummier than almost anything else we see nowdays, the subscription model might or might not lead to more or less piracy, that's definitely not something one can claim on a whim, it could go either way.

[slim thorn]

and unlike past "crashes", most of these problems are scoped to only certain genres or only the highest-budget games, there are enormous swathes of the gaming industry like indies and mobile where "dev budgets are out of control" is afaik not a thing anyone's worried about

these problems are real, but it's important not to ignore all the current good and past bad to the point of mindless doomsaying

[random steppe]

To be clear, I'm not saying it can't be happening, I am just not sure that I see the mechanism as to why it would go from the current problems to an industry collapse.

Not that these things are easy to predic and analyse before they happen so I might be wrong, I'm just skeptical of very bold claims like these.

[rancid herald]

I'm not sure the past crash was from a lack of interest, but rather people feeling like what they were getting, for the cost, wasn't worth it

[random steppe]

Yeah but are people buying less games?

[slim thorn]

right, like any other doomsday predictions, the fact that people have been predicting <insert your favorite catastrophe> for pretty much every year for longer than we've been alive means we need to dismiss most predictions as the baseless rumors they are

[random steppe]

That's what I would expect if that was the situation

[slim thorn]

ironically that's a really hard question to answer because the industry is so much more diverse than ever, there are important business models where buying the game isn't even the main goal

[random steppe]

Or perhaps more accurately, are people spending less money in games

[rancid herald]

not yet

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/hogwartslegacy/status/1750926593994723682?

[wind stump]

pog

[static bluff]

I picked that up for the entire household. I've never played a zachtornics game before, but they seem really fun.

[rancid herald]

Like, right now, people are still buying games, but I also hear rumbling from people who are getting pissed about the ever increasing cost, for something that doesn't always feel like it's worth it. For Spiderman2, for example, you'll recall it won no awards; the reaction in the subreddit was basically 'yeah that makes sense' because it wasn't that special, relative to the original.

[harsh kestrel]

I'm definitely one of those people that would wanna see more indie developers getting the recognition they deserve to have. Like the developer of Palworld has gotten because the vast majority of players have I guess been getting sick of Pokemon, or one from before, 1047 Games, the guys that made Splitgate, just seeing the massive boom they had in popularity, it's always satisfying. FNAF is also another example. Even if that example is about 10 years old at this point

[thorny loom]

https://x.com/arismh10/status/1750673013257707736?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

Aris MH (@ArisMH10) on X

MHW Iceborne: Seregios Showcase

Welcome to the new world Seregios!
I want to thank the @MhwResurgence team for all the work they've done, they've worked for a long time to get Seregios to visit Iceborne, awesome job guys!

📎: https://t.co/yRCnkfH0Wc

Twitter · Jan 26, 2024, 12:12 AM

Apparently theres a big mod for MH W to add other monsters from the other games

[quiet swift]

One can hope it's not a paid mod

[slim thorn]

honestly there are so many indie devs getting so much recognition that most of us already don't have time to recognize most of it

[rancid herald]

yeah

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/thegameawards/status/1750915919608693032?

[thorny loom]

Old

[quiet swift]

[haughty cradle]

is hero wars the best game ever

[thorny loom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iBXgrDqvn0

[bronze abyss]

HOLY SHIT TEKKNE 8 HAS DEER IN BACKGROUND

[thorny loom]

@unreal idol you may like this

https://youtu.be/7eU2B9XzXCc?si=TYN8ZKyiTBUeU97t

Testers were calling it a spiritual successor to world in conflict

[unreal idol]

May consider

[wind stump]

heresy...

[hasty patio]

[fresh bane]

https://vxtwitter.com/LittleVMills/status/1750928630958727249

the madman

[strong pebble]

Sims 4 Jungle Adventure is for free to buy now if you have game pass

[quiet swift]

So Bellular had a new video of info about the layoffs. To sum: Blizz survival game, that was 250 people, all gone.
Overwatch hit: animators, designers, encounter designers, etc- in particular, the pve content side of the team
D4: animators, environmental artist, etc
Warcraft: WOW or Rumble, these have far fewer departures
Activision: People from InNfinity Ward, Sledgehammer Games, Raven Software, Treyarch, High Moon Studios, Toys for Bob and more.
ABK customer support teams are seeminly all going to be outsourced. Includes community management people too. Also includes other games - some bethesday community folk being cut.
Also being closed: department responsible for bringing xbox games to physical retail (this was mentioned yesterday I think)
also the Battle.net software team is being hit hard
On top of what is probably duplicate roles at publishing wings and so on

And for something different, jeez Boltgun has huge levels/areas

[gaunt marten]

Didn't you uninstall the game?

[quiet swift]

I did, I reinstalled it planning on restarting the level to get to that chapter's last boss, but I managed to load and beat it. Then again, this time the level/boss spawned maybe a third or half of the amount of mobs he spawned the previous times

[gaunt marten]

Good luck!

[quiet swift]

yeah i hope it's not as much of a bitch in this chapter (I know it's the last chapter)

[fresh bane]

I can't tell if that's pixel art or some sort of extremely low poly look or both

[quiet swift]

Retro style, it's intentional. Made to look like ye olde games like say Duke 3d

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2005010/Warhammer_40000_Boltgun/

Steam

Warhammer 40,000: Boltgun

Load up your Boltgun and plunge into battle headfirst! Experience a perfect blend of Warhammer 40,000, classic, frenetic FPS gameplay and the stylish visuals of your favourite 90’s retro shooters.

Price

$21.99

Recommendations

9889

▶ Play video

[fresh bane]

boomer shooter
lol

[quiet swift]

That's a genre now

[fresh bane]

Looks nice, I like it, I like that even though it's clearly meant to go for that older aesthetic it still uses 'modern tech' like the lighting

good lighting really helps games look a lot better even if they're all pixelated and low res, like with the Quake remaster

Warhammer is getting a lot of cool games, I may be interested enough to actually check this or another one of them out because I never got the chance to get into more tabletop ish stuff

[quiet swift]

I do love the weird godlikeness of the character. I can jump from the top of the tower visible there and land without a scratch or pause

At the same time, a nurgling can throw feces at me and i'd die

[fresh bane]

I'mma go ahead and wishlist that real quick for later got a lot of goodies on the wishlist that I want to get eventually

Yeah fall damage on games like these seems like a mistake to me

Very hectic and fast paced so fall damage would be kind of eh, but that's what's good about these games because even the super standard grunt enemies can fuck you up if you're not paying attention

[quiet swift]

Yeah that's what has happened

Lack of minimap sucks though, gotten lost in a few levels

[river veldt]

i love boomer shooters

[fresh bane]

I usually don't like minimaps in games like these, I feel like a minimap on Doom 4 or Eternal would've been too much clutter on the screen and I like to keep things tidy, Eternal's UI was already pretty cluttered by my tastes even though it did a few things I loved like putting meters and stuff on the middle of the screen rather than the corners which is by far the best choice you can make

They did have a map though, but I mostly used the map to find secrets rather than find out where to go because usually these games have pretty clear linear progression so it's not too bad

[river veldt]

Dusk doesn't even have a normal map

[quiet swift]

https://vxtwitter.com/AndrewHulshult/status/1743039322406691283

[river veldt]

DUSK my beloved

everyone should play it if they like retro shooters

[fresh bane]

Does the game have any more to it other than classic Doom gameplay? Any sort of more unique mechanic for combat or movement? Just so I know whether I'd feel like getting it and trying it out on sale or if I'd be willing to get it even at full price I'm a big fan of the regular schmegular classic Doom gameplay format but any sort of unique gimmick or mechanic really skyrockets my interest by a lot

kind of like what Ultrakill did

[gaunt marten]

I like classic doom but I'm not sure if I like retro shooters in general

[river veldt]

it's a lot more Quake like i think

[gaunt marten]

I definitely don't like quake

[visual hill]

Dusk is a lot closer to Quake in terms of art direction too

but you move faster in Dusk without having to rely on bunnyhopping

Quake is relatively slow for a boomer shooter if you don't bunnyhop

[hasty patio]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKV1yNzo23Q

[gaunt marten]

I stopped reading at Quake

Speaking of which

[river veldt]

god i love how Dusk looks

[gaunt marten]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbNsRqX7Psk

This guy is apparently a doom community member

I like his accent

[quiet swift]

Hm, not particularly no

[strong pebble]

What if they will bring better people to work?

[gaunt marten]

I don't understand the question

[thorny loom]

I think hes saying what if they replace the people laid off with better skilled people

[rancid herald]

they should reapply for the job but with their character sheet updated to show they have additional skills

[fickle garnet]

Does anyone know if the Metal Gear Solid Master Collection is worth it on ps5?

[fresh bane]

It's worth it in the sense that it's the only way you can get those games in that console

[fickle garnet]

Can you get them separately on steam at all?

[fresh bane]

You can

[strong pebble]

It's on Xbox too

[fickle garnet]

I heard the pc ports weren't the best tho

[visual hill]

they are fine with mods

in fact, I'd consider MGS2/3 Master Collection with mods better than RPCS3 nowadays, because it's much more lightweight and easier to set up. You also have a crouchwalk mod for MGS3 that doesn't exist on RPCS3

[fickle garnet]

What about MGS1?

[visual hill]

for MGS1, PS1 version in DuckStation is still ideal, but the old PC version with mods is alright (it's better and worse at the same time – but overall, I think the "worse" outweighs the "better")

[fickle garnet]

Ah

[visual hill]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHMXUB2Nmw0

[fresh bane]

They aren't, but the situation was very messy and complicated
Most of the bigger issues seem to have been somewhat fixed as well as some newer additions like some visual options, mods helped fix a lot of the issues and enhance the games further especially with more extreme gameplay changing mods like MGS3's crouch walk mod
A lot of the backlash also came due to the expectation that there would be a lot more done to the games to remaster them, but so far they're just very average passable playable ports

It's about as good as you're gonna get if you want to get the games officially

https://www.gog.com/en/game/metal_gear_solid

Unfortunately, MGS2 is no longer available on GOG, I was lucky enough to get it when it was

[fickle garnet]

Damn

I just want to play the original MGS games

I did have 4 on the ps3 but for some reason it stopped letting me play it

[gaunt marten]

Just emulate them

[fresh bane]

The games are fully playable with the collection, there's just not a whole lot done to properly remaster them in any meaningful way or add anything new at all, I don't think they even added any form of mouse and keyboard support and controls yet either which should've been the main thing to focus on

[visual hill]

yeah, no KB/M support

it's the controller lobby at play

[fresh bane]

Mods will make the experience much better if you have the time and patience to tinker around with them, but other than that they're just very bare bones ports but still fully playable asides from minor stuff like how the audio was entirely fucked for MGS2 which I don't know if they fixed

[fickle garnet]

Thats weird that they didnt do that

[fresh bane]

The only other option is to emulate, but emulation is complicated

[slim thorn]

are the MGSs particularly hard to emulate?

[fresh bane]

Not any more than any other PS2 game, it's just that emulation as a whole in general can vary in terms of quality and performance and be inconsistent and most people don't want or care enough to tinker around with emulator settings and such

[river veldt]

which MGS has the boss fight where ||the guy can die from old age||

[fresh bane]

That's why the best option is always going to be an official port, this one is just very bare bones and has some drawbacks

[fickle garnet]

3 i think

[visual hill]

1: very easy
2: normal
3: hard
4: extreme

it's like MGS difficulties

if you use a PAL version of MGS4, it's European Extreme

[fresh bane]

MGS3 and 4 are definitely the ones that benefit the most from the ports

Well, 4 in the future anyways hopefully

I'm looking forward to going back to Peace Walker on PC too

[fickle garnet]

I liked what i played of MGS4

And i do have MGS5 on ps4

[strong pebble]

I have PS2 on Xbox

[thorny loom]

Wait hold up

[slim thorn]

theoretically, sure, but IME emulation these days is about as convenient and reliable as actual PC games/ports, in terms of fiddling required to get what I want working

I'm sure it varies depending on what games one is playing

[gaunt marten]

Older consoles are more reliable

[slim thorn]

makes sense, I've been emulating handhelds and PS1-or-earlier

[visual hill]

7th-gen/Switch console emulation is surprisingly affordable nowadays on some games

[fickle garnet]

Ill probably just buy the master collection eventually to play them

[fresh bane]

Sure, I also haven't had any major issues with emulation before, I'm just talking from the perspective of the average person that can't be bothered to look into all that stuff and they just want to play the game, plus even with a lot of tinkering and after years of an emulator getting better and better games can still just either not work or have some issues or glitches and stuff, so a port ends up being the better option anyways especially when the hardware you use to emulate also will make the performance and quality of the emulation vary although generally it shouldn't be an issue, just saying ports tend to be the better option

[fickle garnet]

Either on ps5 or pc

[fresh bane]

If you have any sort of decent computer and just google help to get some good settings on the emulator set up, generally, it shouldn't be a problem for most games

[fickle garnet]

I will have a mid ranged pc

[fresh bane]

MGS1 particularly has a lot of good options in Duckstation from what I've heard, MGS2 I'm not so sure and it starts to get a bit tricky with MGS3 and especially 4

[slim thorn]

right, there is a small learning curve, but that's the only remaining gap

[visual hill]

ports are better for power efficiency too

[slim thorn]

I have had major issues with emulation in the past, but not for a long time, which is why I always try to qualify that this UX gap disappearing is a relatively recent thing

[visual hill]

it's very, very rare for me to stumble upon a game which doesn't run well

[fresh bane]

https://youtu.be/TxHQXNTd2ls?si=wF5Fkrhq-vPIc3PL

[visual hill]

the only two occurrences for me are Gran Turismo 5 (runs alright but slow during replays/pre-race) or GT6 (could never get it to boot)

but GT5/6 being playable in RPCS3 is a very new development, it's only been the case since July 2023

[fresh bane]

I haven't seen this video in its entirety but I saw the Code Veronica video from this channel and it was a pretty good showcase of the different versions and emulated versions of the game

So I trust that video is pretty good at showing all that stuff too

[slim thorn]

of the games I've tried to emulate with RetroArch, the only one I had to do weird magic for was Rondo of Blood because it was exclusive to the PC Engine with the CD-ROM add-on

and, fair, that's a weird af system lol

[visual hill]

reminds me of the N64DD

it's the way to play F-Zero X (thanks to its stereo soundtrack and bonus cup), but it involves some additional setup. It's also only in Japanese but a fan translation is available

[fresh bane]

I haven't gone anywhere close to PS3 emulation, last time I checked a while back it was still extremely finnicky and very much not stable at all, but I'd be interested in seeing if I could get the MGS HD collection to work if only just to play Peace Walker on it because the PS3 version is the ideal way to play it

[strong pebble]

What is your favorite game before PS3?

[visual hill]

Ratchet & Clank was one of my favorite series back then (in addition to my brother's)

also Sly Cooper (I'm not a furry), Jak & Dexter, Burnout

[static bluff]

Either Earthbound or Final Fantasy IX

Or maybe Halo 2

[dense crypt]

Steel Lancer Arena International

[strong pebble]

Ratchet and Clank, Sly Cooper, Jak and Daxter, Burnout, Earthbound, Final Fantasy IX, Steel Lancer Arena International I saved it

[fickle garnet]

Half life 2

[strong pebble]

I played Halo 2 💚

Half Life 2

I have Ratchet and Clank I think I'll start with that one

[fickle garnet]

Im trying to get my ps3 working so i can see if i can play MGS4

[river veldt]

Doom II probably

[strong pebble]

I played it 🌟🌟 it was easy

[river veldt]

there are some tough levels

[strong pebble]

I think I beat it but maybe it was the one with many campaigns

So I beat just one

[fickle garnet]

It fucking worked!

[river veldt]

QBERT

[fickle garnet]

I am so happy rn

It says its gonna take 500 minutes

[visual hill]

I'm adding a crosshair color by health option to Perfect Dark

it also has an option that goes through green at 100% health to better match vanilla

[strong pebble]

Are you making mods?

[dense crypt]

careful with SLAI, its a hard one

but if you like games where you build your own fighting machine, its a great game

[fresh bane]

https://vxtwitter.com/DavidBHayter/status/1750658848996917505

[river veldt]

this is like the Mario 64 outfit in Mario Odyssey

[novel pine]

the MGS2 GOG port is the best way to play on PC

[fresh bane]

As of now, the MGS2 master collection version with mods is probably about as good if not better but I haven't played it nor have I seen the mods, but the various fixes plus the better resolution mods probably put it up there

[novel pine]

i find it hard to believe since the MGS2 GOG port with V's Fix is an actual PC port and not an emulation like the master collection ver.

[unreal idol]

Extremely pog

[bronze abyss]

hh i need to start from low rank again in tekken and thats a pain cuz people dont know what they are doing and cuz of accessibility features they have acess to even more bullshit now without knowing what they are doing

and since its a new game it has new character and just old ones with different properties than before so i cant simply out play each round

[visual hill]

MGS2/3 in MC are ports, not emulation, as there are literally no commercial PS3/Xbox 360 emulators out there

(remember that RPCS3 and Xenia are GPL-licensed, which is a no-go for consoles)

it's why Nintendo develops their own emulators 🙂

[worldly summit]

rpcs3 my beloved

[quiet swift]

https://www.gamesradar.com/horizon-forbidden-west-fans-brace-for-another-elden-ring-situation-as-the-rpgs-pc-release-goes-against-dragons-dogma-2-and-rise-of-the-ronin/ horizon is just cursed

[random steppe]

I think that the February-March period is just always hell

If Elden Ring DLC gets confirmed for February it'll be even more stacked

[quiet swift]

If elden ring upstages it twice, then the gods are just dicks

[young creek]

Genryu which classes do you think they will be adding in the Elden Ring expansion

[random steppe]

lol

[sour hill]

Monk

[wind stump]

"i dunno navi this edible ain't shi-" https://youtu.be/syuo15wgNOw

[fresh bane]

https://vxtwitter.com/Harada_TEKKEN/status/1751083002149667105?t=mPCZLemoHnHUeZjA5ZTWjQ&s=19

"will the llama be okay? "

"no. you killed it and its entire family"

[teal sonnet]

Horizon 1 was released next to Zelda BOTW, 2 was released with Elden Ring, this game is cursed as fuck

[quiet swift]

[visual hill]

3 will be released with Hollow Knight Silksong

[random steppe]

It would be funny because HZD was released 4 days apart from Hollow Knight and at the time it was one of the reason it took a while for HK to actually take off

If Silksong releases next to Horizon 3 and it's reason it struggles it'd be very funny

[true maple]

i think gamers are thirsty enough for hornet that it'll do fine regardless

[river veldt]

people are thirsty for Hornet???????

[true maple]

you are such a good troll, cap

[river veldt]

im not trolling

[random steppe]

Btw, just to give you the state of HK community, the person that does the "daily silksong news" in which they put a 25 seconds video telling you today there are in fact, no Silksong news, that day, recently did one that was 8 hours in lenght and was an extremely long and deranged conversation about HK, Silksong, the lore, the theories, etc...

Someone should do a wellness check on them.

[flint iron]

Yeh I didnt know either

[river veldt]

does Hollow Knight have deep lore

[true maple]

boy howdy does it

[random steppe]

I'd say so, it's one of those games that does lore by implication

[quiet swift]

https://www.gamesradar.com/its-not-going-well-daily-hollow-night-silksong-news-channel-catches-up-to-one-piece-manga-chapters-with-1105-episodes/

[true maple]

it doesn't tell you right out, you gotta go find it and make interpretations

[random steppe]

So that gave the community time to cook, some say too much time to cook

[gaunt marten]

The knight do be hollow though

[true maple]

but it's all there in the game, there's not a huge reliance on external media or word of god

[random steppe]

Very true

[flint iron]

Fnaf...

[river veldt]

i was going to say like fnaf but i thought Gen would kill me if i did

ghfhhshfhrhdw

[gaunt marten]

FNAF is hollow but not knight

[random steppe]

I mean some stuff is left vague or unconfirmed but there is a strong outline that gives you roughly the whole story

[true maple]

shovel knight is knight but not hollow

[river veldt]

if Hollow than only Knight !

[gaunt marten]

Celeste is neither

[quiet swift]

HK's lore is told kindof in the same way Elden Ring did its own. It's not told to you directly by a character spoiting a ton of lines

[gaunt marten]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cgcXHC7A_I

This is a really interesting way to mod the game

[thorny loom]

https://x.com/pokemon/status/1750934132568322194?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

Pokémon (@Pokemon) on X

Ogerpon’s attributes, including its Ability and type, will change depending on which mask it puts on.

Which of Ogerpon’s four forms is your favorite?

#PokemonScarletViolet ❤️💜

Twitter · Jan 26, 2024, 5:30 PM

The replies are something else

[bronze abyss]

https://youtu.be/slIpz89oevA?si=WlLxx0n-tw5Sa15n

💀

this motherfucker really just fucking pulled this shit in the biggest tournament of the game

hlding the biggest combo too and good accuracy

virgin uinstable 20mb/s steam down servers vs chad niche torrent with 20 seeders consistent 50mb/s

[fresh bane]

ayyy finally reached 200+ hours

still can't complete BP with Dante

[strong pebble]

I played it 💖💖

[dense crypt]

devil might possibly start weeping

[strong pebble]

Angel might laugh

I didn't know what's going on but it was super cool to fight

[quiet swift]

Aaaand Boltgun done. Apart from that one frustrating bossfight and the level design making it kinda easy to get lost at times, that was fun

[hasty patio]

And technically a prequel to Space Marine 2.

[quiet swift]

Oh, really?

[hasty patio]

I'm 2x checking to be sure.

Taking place on the Forge World Graia several years after the events of Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine, the player takes the role of Malum Caedo, a Sternguard Veteran Space Marine of the Ultramarines Chapter sent by the Inquisition to Graia on a mission of great importance.

And to be sure, Graia is the planet in SM1.

[river veldt]

have they ever made a Star Wars boomer shooter

wait there was that one

[strong pebble]

What's a boomer shooter 😆😆

[river veldt]

like Doom or Quake

retro shooter

[strong pebble]

Oh ok

[river veldt]

maze like levels, super fast character, etc

[strong pebble]

Boomer shooter lol

[river veldt]

lots of weapons

[strong pebble]

I played the one before boltgun

But it was really like kinda evil

So I didn't finish it but I tried it

[river veldt]

what do you mean it was evil

[quiet swift]

to be fair, it's been a long time since i played the first

...A very, very long time.

[strong pebble]

Like you know brutal

[hasty patio]

Same. 2011 was a long time ago (on the 360).

https://youtu.be/EHy0JVNCwsM?si=NRM3fjVEGWCeYzFE&t=13 But you get this banger of an opener, and the memes with it.

[river veldt]

im thinking of Dark Forces

[quiet swift]

Is that the one with zergling equivalents piled up mountain high?

Or am I thinking a different game

Ah, dawn of war 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN8geCTlZOo

[fickle garnet]

I'm probably gonna get boltgun at some point. It looks fun

[quiet swift]

Fun but at times frustrating, is my verdict

[fickle garnet]

Its not too expensive either

[hasty patio]

Awesome trailer. Shame it never came out. /s

[arctic fern]

Dow1 is the best
Obviously

[hasty patio]

I liked two better. Cut the crappy base-building and focused more on the units without CoH2's three menu screens of actions.

That said, DoW1 modded is a blast from what I see and hear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq7A1ImzfKg Modded unit and voice lines. Ignore the meme. Also, headphone and volume warning.

[strong pebble]

@bronze abyss if Tekken 8 is $34.79 and Deluxe Edition is $49.71 which one would you get?

[bronze abyss]

normal

deluxe isnt worth

[strong pebble]

I watched some videos and I think I really want Tekken 8

Have you played the arcade mode where you can walk around?

[bronze abyss]

no i dont like single player content

i play it exclusively for the competitive aspect

[strong pebble]

No, with others

[bronze abyss]

arcade mode is traditionally against CPU

[strong pebble]

Like this

[bronze abyss]

no i dont play that,only ranked and practice mode

[strong pebble]

It looks fun I think 🌟

[bronze abyss]

#relatable

unstable coward debuff is real

[strong pebble]

Who is your character in Tekken?

[green fulcrum]

born with the ability to control fire, however...
literally cannot control fire to save its life
chokes on its own flames
can't stop the flames either

Wow, this thing's life sucks...

[strong pebble]

I like that it sneezes and makes fire

[teal sonnet]

they are far too gone

this reminds me of this reddit post

https://www.reddit.com/r/HollowKnight/comments/16ltnyl/my_dad_is_in_adelaide_on_a_business_trip_and_i/

the only sign we have the devs still alive and working

I love the cameo episode with Migu

https://youtu.be/_zwIE439wko

[fickle garnet]

I got MGS4 up and running on my ps3. Its pretty fun

[dense crypt]

worlds quietest video

[random steppe]

I wish the game would release sooner, but also, NGL, I kinda love that Team Cherry are basically hermits

[strong pebble]

My mom would wake up

It's on phone from Xbox

[random steppe]

It's what i would do if I ever got exposed to the public attention of hundreds thousands of people, even for something positive.
Abandoning all my accounts forever and probably make alts and use those instead.

So I kinda empathise

They shout ot merch once every 6 months and then try to blend in with the furniture for the rest of the time, it's pretty funny

[thorny loom]

https://vxtwitter.com/charlieintel/status/1751439847875555631?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

[light gate]

holy hell that looks sick

Shame it was canned.

[proud warren]

bro I'm doing a pk scrambled run and... I'm an immature child

the names I gave myself and my psi moves feel almost meme-worthy

so I don't think I can post them

[thorny loom]

These map names

https://x.com/forwardleaks/status/1751459086149755072?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

Forward (@ForwardLeaks) on X

NX1 Maps

from @catgurlfriend

Twitter · Jan 28, 2024, 4:16 AM

[dense crypt]

bin ladens compound

[bronze abyss]

the most dangerous creature

the threatening aura is overwhelming

[slim thorn]

it's a really hard strategy to beat for PR, especially at the indie scale

being super active takes time away from development (I say as I chat here instead of working on my mod) and it's so, so easy to say one dumb thing or get one thing taken out of context

[slim thorn]

random thought: @random steppe Would I like Lies of P?

[random steppe]

I don't think so

[slim thorn]

kk

[random steppe]

I mean, there are some meaningful differences to the souls formula so it's not impossible but I give it a 80% no

[dire gate]

"Slightly different Bloodborne"

[random steppe]

It's in many ways less approachable than other souls, comparatively you are more likely to like Elden Ring than Lies of P if I had to guess.

That one has proven to be more accessible to new players.
And I wouldn't bet above 50% for that one either

[slim thorn]

interesting

I guess you were around when I was hemming and hawing about whether to try ER before I finally settled on no, so no point recapping that

[random steppe]

The logic for that, is the presence of a hub zone, which historically helps new players since you know where to find vendors, the blacksmith, etc.
The ability to teleport between bonfires right away (even tho that one is in every game except DS1)
And the open world structure allowing you to tackle challenges more or less at your own pace.

Lies of P has two of these things, but it's also tuned pretty hard and relatively linear.

ER gets very hard later in the game, especially for optional bosses, but the start is a lot gentler than other souls thanks to the open world structure

[slim thorn]

makes sense

I don't think any of that was central to the issues I had with DS1, Sekiro or RW so you're probably right that I should skip it

[dire gate]

I do wonder if a non-brutal souls-like action themed game would work or not

[random steppe]

It does

[slim thorn]

Jedi: Fallen Order/Survivor are my go-to (3D) examples of "just Soulslike enough that the things people say about Soulslikes were actually true for me in those games"

[random steppe]

Zelda does pretty well and it's essentially that plus some metroidvania stuff

[slim thorn]

souls-like means so many things to so many people it is really hard to pin down what a question like that means

e.g. I usually read it as something specific enough that none of the Zeldas would be included

[gaunt marten]

Can you define the specific parts that you like?

[slim thorn]

ponders whether to type out the full essay for that one

[sour hill]

What if Ixrec's perfect soulslike turns out to be the original lords of the fallen

I think I'd lose my mind

[gaunt marten]

Because he's so right

[sour hill]

Real

[young creek]

ixrecs perfect soulslike is ootmm

[sour hill]

That just gave me the idea to do a ds3 sl1 run for archipelago at some point

[gaunt marten]

I couldn't do a vanilla SL1 run

Got stuck at Abyss Watchers

[sour hill]

I think dark souls 1 sl1 is easier

[strong pebble]

I think Super Mario is much more difficult than dark souls

[sour hill]

Well I haven't beat super Mario 1 yet, so

[strong pebble]

Exactly

So many people finished dark souls and so little finished super mario

And I try often and I'm very good at games

[gaunt marten]

https://vxtwitter.com/murasakigezi/status/1751546199554093436

https://i.imgur.com/5IuYFQH.png

Weirdest hill to die on

from https://youtu.be/A2dxjOjWHxQ

Why would you imply that people who use libraries do not love games?

[slim thorn]

it's not a real game unless you carried the bytes uphill in the snow both ways to compile them in a cave

tbh the programming is the least interesting part of most games (until you're glitch hunting I guess)

good game engines don't cut out any of the art, music, writing, voice acting, and game design work

[gaunt marten]

Yeah. Whether you use libraries or not, making good games is not harder than before.

[slim thorn]

there's also a question of exactly how far you'd want to take the lack of dependencies; even in the good ol' days, if you're writing in C then the C standard library and compiler are a whole thing, and even if you go down to assembly there's still all the people who designed the hardware you're writing assembly for

and the biggest reason nobody does that today is because we want our games to work on more than one piece of very specific hardware

[sour hill]

Real games are made for the abacus

[slim thorn]

real games go so far back no one remembers the rules any more

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senet

[gaunt marten]

No

Real games only go as far as Rollercoaster Tycoon 1, the first and only game ever written in Assembly language

[thorny loom]

https://www.pcgamer.com/suicide-squad-devs-say-despite-being-a-live-service-game-itll-respect-players-time-because-we-all-love-playing-games-but-we-also-have-lives/

live service game that respects my time

[random steppe]

That sounds good, but also, my cynical sides tells me that this respect will come in the form of XP boosters you can buy

[gaunt marten]

"We will respect your time!" can mean "We will make sure the user experience is good," or "We don't have that much content in the game AND we'll let you skip it for money."

[random steppe]

If they do the Halo Infinite thing with their battlepasses I'll acknowledge they were correct

That's my bar

Actually I'll read the article instead of just skimming the first paragraph, maybe they say in there what the plan is

As studio director Darius Sadeghian said, "you will be able to go back and play previous Battle Passes after a Season ends"
They might be cooking, the wording is a bit vague tho

if with "play" they mean "progress" I take back my cynism

[visual hill]

I already feel like a lot of traditional games aren't respecting my time in various ways (such as forced intro screens), so… 👀

[uneven epoch]

i just dont respect my time in first place

mmmmm delicious side content

[strong pebble]

I'm at 8 - 1 level in Mario.....

First time in my life and I have 7 lives

I paused because I can't lose

[slim thorn]

pretty much any game without quick saves and/or fine-grained checkpoints will end up wasting the player's time eventually

[strong pebble]

If I win 4 levels I will beat Mario

[gaunt marten]

Wait until you hear about Mario 2

[strong pebble]

I can't wait to play next ones

But this is the hardest game I ever played

3 levels

2 levels

Last level

Ok

[wind stump]

https://youtu.be/Y56LDd8sMYs

interesting video on how 🅱️roke this shit is

[thorny loom]

https://www.humblebundle.com/store/promo/humble-winter-wonderland-sale-2024/?hmb_source=store_home

[visual hill]

I have fond memories of playing Mario Kart Wii online in splitscreen, it was the shit

more games should have online + splitscreen at the same time 👀

[wind stump]

YES

[flint iron]

https://youtu.be/5r3RxHoZEyQ?si=8j5oWeZ8cmPPAXxF

Oops I accidentally shared a reaction to the trailer

[fickle garnet]

I beat Revolver Ocelot in MGS1

[dense crypt]

you're pretty good! just what i'd expect from the man with the same code name as the Boss.

[river veldt]

yoo congrats

[strong pebble]

No warps 🌟🌟🙏💖

Every level beaten

[visual hill]

I've only finished it with warps

but that's just because I was checking the game out of curiosity

[strong pebble]

It's time for the song peaches 🌟💖💖

https://youtu.be/imSefM4GPpE?feature=shared

[visual hill]

I watched that movie last month, that song is fun

[river veldt]

i dont think ive even done ebery level

i always do warps

[fickle garnet]

Had to stop playing MGS but i got to the part with the infrared lasers in the airlock

I like this game

[strong pebble]

One day I'm going to play MGS too🌟🌟

[fresh bane]

whoops

[quiet swift]

https://fxtwitter.com/GaeleyFGC/status/1751515344223555804

[strong pebble]

It says a store

Oh walk to the store not into

Sorry my brain is just Mario music now

[green fulcrum]

https://www.pcgamesn.com/suicide-squad-kill-the-justice-league/denuvo-drm

It's like they want this game to be despised.

There's also a review embargo

[quiet swift]

@green fulcrum so i've been playing various stuff recently on Steam. The "home" page of the library does have a section for 'recommended next game' out of my library

This is what has been #1 for the past month or two

[green fulcrum]

Oh hey, Pathfinder! Great game

[quiet swift]

I did just recently finish Cyberpunk though, after 100 hours so i wanna stay a bit away of longer games. Will do ori 2 and maybe something else first before tackling that

[green fulcrum]

Yeah, Wrath of the Righteous is looooong. Might even be longer than Cyberpunk.

[quiet swift]

flees to bed first

[green fulcrum]

Yuuuup.

Fantastic game though

[strong pebble]

I have cyberpunk but I don't feel comfortable playing it

[fresh bane]

|| https://youtu.be/LCZpphTPma8?si=aldJyLwQyvvgDBgj ||
super good and interesting game, absolutely love the entire concept and how it mixes mundane customer service with the paranormal and supernatural
also I guess spoilering it because the thumbnail can maybe be creepy

[proud warren]

tf happened to my game of pk scramble?

[gaunt marten]

Looks like GPU memory corruption to me

[wind stump]

MY EYES

breaking: Portal is a buggy game, lmao https://youtu.be/niYKpbICJus

(TL;DR, there's special dialogue for destroying every camera, but Valve Spaghetti Code means that you need to be very patient in order to hear it, since it can't overlap with "important" dialogue)

[light gate]

That’s not spaghetti code, that’s probably intentional.

Also every game has bugs lol.

[gaunt marten]

It's pretty obviously unintentional

[slim thorn]

it is a bug that the achievement counter and the "dialogue counter" are two separate counters / can get out of sync, but it's way simpler and more self-contained than "spaghetti code"; the early return was just a bit too early in this one function

[wind stump]

i'm still calling it spaghetti code

[slim thorn]

do you know what that term means

[wind stump]

no but it's funny

i don't misinform i just lie

[gaunt marten]

It's code that goes everywhere, even places it's not supposed to, when you could easily have made it simpler and more elegant, as well as easier to debug

[slim thorn]

the intended metaphor is that trying to follow what the program's doing in any specific situation is like trying to follow where one random noodle in a big bowl of spaghetti is going

[gaunt marten]

Spaghetti code (in yellow):
http://www.arn.org/docs/glicksman/bad-design/06/Bad Design The RLN v3.fld/image021.jpg

[wind stump]

oh i shee i shee

[slim thorn]

if that video needed to pull up five different files and jump between them a dozen times to explain why two numbers get out of sync, that would be true spaghetti code

[wind stump]

[grim stirrup]

spaghetti code helps feed the hungry bugs so its v important

[green fulcrum]

Fun fact: Mojang is still trying to un-spaghettify Notch's old code in Minecraft. That dude did not know how to code stuff properly at all.

[dire gate]

One of the reasons that justifies the existence of Bedrock edition

[gaunt marten]

A full refactor is more than reasonable and it's weird they didn't do it

[dire gate]

Well Bedrock is basically the overhauled version

[gaunt marten]

Bedrock does not have feature parity

[green fulcrum]

I respect what they're trying to do with Bedrock, but there's one major platform that's holding that version of it back: mobile. The mobile version of Minecraft is why we don't have 1.9 combat in Bedrock, why bundles can't be used, why redstone is so bland and sterilized, why Bedrock controls like crap, why servers are so tiny, and why there's so many issues with the UI. And that's just to name a few problems.

It's why even though Bedrock is the most-played version of Minecraft because of mobile, the Java/PC edition is still the most widely-known and widely-accepted "superior" version.

[heady bridge]

https://twitter.com/VGC_News/status/1751949274810646996

VGC (@VGC_News) on X

Rocksteady was forced to pull Suicide Squad servers offline an hour into its early access release, after players experienced a bug which automatically completed the game when they logged in.

https://t.co/UZflmRAVzq

Twitter · Jan 29, 2024, 12:43 PM

[random steppe]

Man I'll be honest, this game doesn't even look that bad to me, but it must be cursed

[fickle garnet]

Yeah

[random steppe]

Someone on the development team ancestors must have crossed a witch or something, they need to find who that is.

[green fulcrum]

This game, man!

[graceful bridge]

https://twitter.com/suicidesquadRS/status/1751938662093263232

Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League (@suicidesquadRS) on X

We’re aware that a number of players are currently experiencing an issue whereby upon logging into the game for the first time, they have full story completion.

To resolve this issue, we will be performing maintenance on the game servers.

During this time the game will be…

Twitter · Jan 29, 2024, 12:01 PM

logging into the game for the first time, they have full story completion

[quiet swift]

Scroll up a tad, masque

[graceful bridge]

Ah, I didn't see that in the post.

[quiet swift]

[quiet swift]

https://www.pcgamesn.com/biogun/free-steam-demo

[gaunt marten]

It's Trauma Center with higher stakes

Oh it's not actually like Trauma Center

[visual hill]

fastest speedrun ever

[chilly mural]

Hello Manechat, I won 2nd place at DOA at Frosty Faustings

I got a medal

[thorny loom]

Time for your daily layoff announcement

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-29/embracer-group-cancels-deus-ex-video-game? Also canceled deus ex game 😦

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/charlieintel/status/1752032867570303346?

[visual hill]

note that it's just 4chan rumors so far

[thorny loom]

Just a heads up apparently the valhiem discord was hacked

[unreal idol]

Adrian how could you

[grave tide]

[graceful bridge]

The layoffs are real though.
https://x.com/EidosMontreal/status/1752027685293801632?s=20

Eidos-Montréal (@EidosMontreal) on X

Twitter · Jan 29, 2024, 5:55 PM

[river veldt]

[grave tide]

Embracer really sucks now

They just bought 9999999999 studios to increase cost of company to sell it later

But didn't find which company sell themselves

So they can't handle economic crisis

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/wario64/status/1751969397219197122?

[fresh bane]

I love games requiring online connections to even run
I love being locked out of the game I purchased because the servers are down or in maintenance

[sour hill]

That's what gaming is all about

[thorny loom]

https://www.ign.com/articles/final-fantasy-6-remake-would-take-about-20-years-to-make-original-director-says

God id hate to be on that dev team if it ever got greenlit

[gaunt marten]

Yeah FF6 was so grand they had to move away from the format if they were to ever match it

[river veldt]

at least no crunch.... ?

[gaunt marten]

That's 20 years with crunch

[river veldt]

o

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/callofduty/status/1752058758744740320?

[fresh bane]

The secret to solving that is to not do it in the style of FF7R in the first place

[fickle garnet]

I have this Final Fantasy game on the super nintendo

[harsh kestrel]

So they finally could be getting rid of that trash SBMM. Let's just hope this isn't worse

[gaunt marten]

Super Bario Mros Melee

[astral steeple]

https://vxtwitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/1752028659022705030

[unreal idol]

Fact: We need a remake of Diddy Kong Racing but with Mario Kart

[hasty patio]

I'm sure Rare will get right on that.

[thorny loom]

Yeah. Unfortunately anything rare and Nintendo will never get remade. Just ported

[strong pebble]

When new switch will come out then I think I want it if it can play old games

[thorny loom]

Given its nintendo your selection of old games will probably be limited

If your wanting an emulator get a steam deck

[visual hill]

https://twitter.com/Graslu00/status/1752070292661276741
those completion rates are super low

Graslu00 (@Graslu00) on X

The Xbox achievements page is great because it can show us some amazing GoldenEye stats such as these:

• 38% beat Dam.
• 4% beat Cradle.
• 0.67% beat the whole game and Egyptian on 00 Agent.
• 14% played multiplayer, only 2.52% got to play 10 matches.

Twitter · Jan 29, 2024, 8:44 PM

[strong pebble]

I should beat it

[rotund forge]

Poppy Playtime Chapter 3 is tomorrow!

[hasty patio]

https://maddymakesgamesinc.itch.io/celeste64

[thorny loom]

https://fxtwitter.com/Wario64/status/1752100767589347450

My guess is music licensing caused it

[slim thorn]

whoa

geez, now I'm really glad I bought and replayed that last year

[dense crypt]

yaaaay now its abandonware

[fresh bane]

I absolutely hate when that happens
I understand why, I understand there's a whole thing with licensing, but holy shit it just boggles my mind and it's so frustrating everytime something like this happens, worse when the entire game is made completely unavailable

Same happened with Vice City and all the removed radio stuff, I remember MGS2 had some stuff that got cut out in subsequent releases after the original release too

In other news I'm already getting just blasted with a bunch of channels uploading Suicide Squad clips and of course they're all massive spoilers, title and thumbnail

[white phoenix]

wonder how mgs4 is going to do it when it rereleases with all the apple product placement

[fresh bane]

I don't know if that's gonna necessarily be a problem but still, it could be, and it irritates me so much

Can't imagine playing TPP without all those bops on the casette player 0/10 unplayable

If Pequod isn't arriving shortly at LZ blasting The Man Who Sold The World then what's even the point

[hushed onyx]

I didn't know the Trans-Pacific Partnership was a game...?

[light gate]

????? What

That’s Kojima Productions, not Konami lol.

[fresh bane]

...what

[light gate]

I don’t know, I’m confused by what Toff even meant.

[white phoenix]

In MGS4, you have a literal iPod that you can use to listen to music in-game

[light gate]

Oh, did not know that.

Uhh, yeah that’ll be gone.

(Why an iPod on a super futuristic… ehh whatever)

[white phoenix]

I mean yeah, it's the dichotomy of it that makes it so absurdly hilarious

[light gate]

I mean I never played MGS.

[fresh bane]

MGS4 is not even super futuristic, it's 2014

[white phoenix]

mgsv had a sony walkman in the same game as a holographic portable "iDroid"

[light gate]

It has massive mechs, lasers, and god knows what else.

[fresh bane]

Sure, but it's set in our current past

[light gate]

Still futuristic, like how everyone thought in the year 2000 flying cars were gonna be a thing…

Never happened.

[fresh bane]

It's not really futuristic so much as it is just completely fictional stuff, we're no closer to having mechs in any capacity nowadays than they did in the 70s yet in the MGS timeline they already had Metal Gears by that time

So an iPod being a thing doesn't really seem that weird to me at all

[light gate]

I guess I missed the boat discussion where the internet collectively decided that mechs aren’t futuristic.

[fresh bane]

I'm just saying MGS isn't really particularly 'super futuristic', that's all

[light gate]

Anyhoo, tl;dr they’ve been porting a few games to Apple devices lately. That’s why I got thrown off.

[light gate]

And I’m free to disagree lol.

[fresh bane]

alright

[fresh bane]

Don't forget Venom technically had the very first vape too

[white phoenix]

holy crap you're right

[thorny loom]

Should have just played it at launch. The game would have beaten itself for you

[slim thorn]

"futuristic" is more of an aesthetic than anything else, it's possible for mechs to be more or less of that and all sorts of other things

maybe the most popular counterexample would be your classic steampunk mechs

[fresh bane]

Right, MGS has a lot of... anachronistic? technology, but it's not really going into laser gun levels of futurism, it's always just stuff that's super top secret tech that seems decades in advance to the time period

[hushed onyx]

While I obviously wasn't being serious as such, it's true that I have no idea what "TPP" means.

[fresh bane]

And, well, the giant mechs too

[dire gate]

The Phantom Pain

It's the title of MGS 5

[fresh bane]

Technically one of the titles for MGSV, if you include Ground Zeroes

(also it always confused me as to why they decided to go with V for 5 when all the other previous games didn't do the roman numbers thing )

[white phoenix]

V for Venom

[fresh bane]

Bravo Kojima

:twiclap:

[sour hill]

V is just cooler then 5

[fresh bane]

Can't argue with that

also, actually now that I think about it the V being red also could be a reference to Zadornov and the 'V for Victory' thing from Peace Walker...

dammit, actually a genius kojumbo moment

[hasty patio]

lol

[proud warren]

something happened to my game

[gaunt marten]

This reads like emulator error rather than a genuine game bug

[proud warren]

probably

I got through the game already, and while going through the credits, something happened so i went to check some locations out with this bug happening

[gaunt marten]

What emulator are you using? Also I recall you're using some sort of a mod, right?

The SNES has cycle accurate emulators and they're performant enough you should be using them.

[proud warren]

twas using snes9x

and I was doing pk scramble; just a randomizer for earthbound

(also sorry for the late response, moved on to something else)

[quiet swift]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/herastone/steam-marines/

https://www.gamesradar.com/bungie-casually-reveals-it-made-a-destiny-2-dating-sim-internally-that-fans-of-the-mmos-many-hotties-will-never-get-to-play/

[green fulcrum]

...What.

[quiet swift]

[hasty patio]

We get Hooked on You, but not whatever that is. TBF, Destiny players will either love or hate it.

[static bluff]

This is so trippy! I'm laughing at bubbles coming in from the top left

[gaunt marten]

SNES9x is pretty good but a bit old. It is also not cycle accurate. So if the bug is caused by inaccurate emulation, you may be able to resolve it by switching to Ares, Mesen or BSNES

[proud warren]

noted

[proud warren]

they're there normally iirc; Magicant has a long line of npc's, but idr if bubbles is normally in the line or not

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/ign/status/1752323550147416447?

[gaunt marten]

IGN is not worth your time

Don't eyeroll me.

IGN has a real problem!

It's one of the least respectable game review companies.

I'm not saying Persona 3 is bad. I have zero opinion on that.

[unreal idol]

IGN has been shit for like 25 years

[gaunt marten]

Yeah

It's a wonder they're still alive to this day given how consistently awful their review strategy has been

[unreal idol]

Their guides and other info on games tends to be lacking

[wind stump]

7.8 outta ten

too much wata

[arctic fern]

Ign is literally a joke

[gaunt marten]

Steam still has not taken this feature out of Beta

https://i.imgur.com/EltGDeR.png

What's the holdup?

https://i.imgur.com/Ae5Vww4.png

[grave tide]

People using Family Sharing to try AAA game: every private game becomes public

[gaunt marten]

I mark games as private so I can play 50,000 hour incremental games without them incorrectly filling up my most played list

(Not an exaggeration)

https://i.imgur.com/j9gTPgD.png

[random steppe]

IGN has its problems but it is the one big gaming outlet that had the balls to give Starfield a 7.
They cook sometimes

[slim thorn]

was that considered ballsy when it was new

[dire gate]

I definitely share the same issue, it is also one of the reasons why I set my account invisible except when I want to play something with my friend

[gaunt marten]

Yeah now you don't have to set the whole account to private or invisible

Just specific games

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/insidergamingig/status/1752330979585192092?

[valid lance]

this weekend i might finally work on figuring out how to get minecraft to work properly on my steam deck

[thorny loom]

Wish them the best

[valid lance]

it works for the most part but the triggers that would change my item slot don't work properly

[thorny loom]

||https://x.com/buggy_con/status/1751947357141549202?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ||

Well that went about as well as expected for the new suicide squad game (hidden cause spoilers)

[gaunt marten]

I like it

It makes for a good ending to the game Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League

It could be done a little better, but that's a pretty enjoyable ending

[thorny loom]

Thats great https://www.gamespot.com/articles/spec-ops-the-line-devs-also-dont-know-why-the-game-was-delisted-from-steam/1100-6520690/

Not even the devs know why the game got removed from steam

[thorny loom]

@random steppe

https://vxtwitter.com/pc_focus_/status/1752386680332415158?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

Ngl this looks so much fun

[quiet swift]

Huh. They've finally added diablo 1 and warcraft 1 and 2 to bnet

[sour hill]

Someone at 2K just didn't like it I guess! I do wonder if it's because of a dogshit PC port that they're embarrassed about, but that seems unlikely

I played it on ps3 so idk if that's the case

[bronze abyss]

let the sexing commence

[chilly mural]

https://vxtwitter.com/spacepatrolhana/status/1752086409165574537

maud spotted

[thorny loom]

Isnt that based off gta 5 artwork

[chilly mural]

yeah

[slim thorn]

huh, I don't remember having any issues running it

[sour hill]

Guess they just hate it then

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/destinythegame/status/1752376135285866939?

[quiet swift]

Ah, yes, truly key moments in the game...

[wind stump]

what the hell happened to Outcore, lmao

[bronze abyss]

are any of yall into kingdom hearts series? i kinda got an urge to play the seires for the first time ever and im not sure if its a wise idea to start with what i think is the newest game,3, or is it fine

i dont really wanna deal with older game jank or play the spinoffs while im not invested in the series

[slim thorn]

yeah starting with 3 would be a bad idea

KH3 is the big Infinity War/Endgame-level finale of all the KH games up to that point

[bronze abyss]

are there maybe remakes of older games then on pc?

[slim thorn]

these days, the best way to get into the series is the 1.5+2.5 collection, and then the 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue collection, then KH3

[thorny loom]

There currently only on the epic game store

[slim thorn]

https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/kingdom-hearts-hd-1-5-2-5-remix

[bronze abyss]

launcher doesnt matter too much,not like im gonna get them legally anyways

[thorny loom]

Given how they charge $50 for them can’t say i blame you

[slim thorn]

to be fair there is a lot of game in those collections

[bronze abyss]

i dont have much left even for food so i definitely couldnt buy them even if i wanted to,and i dont think square is strapped for cash anyways their final's fantasy enough to their wallet anyways

[dense crypt]

if you start with games based on release date, be careful with kingdom hearts 1. it aged very poorly, its combat is clunky and awkward, leveling is weird and gives important skills randomly rather than you earning them in some predictable way, and the camera is a prime example of how NOT to make one in a video game.

idk if the packs update the original game but yeezus its rough

[bronze abyss]

thats p much exactly why i wanna start with 3